1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: As far as hype goes, Timmy Cady after it. By 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: the way, speaking of hype, as far as hype goes tomorrow, 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: no shortage of noise around it. All Blacks of the 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: South Africa. Both sides have lost, but the Eden Park things. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: That's a thing, so all to play for, as they say. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Cody Taylor, Great Ken Tabri and an all Black hooker 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: is back with us. Good morning, morning man. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: How's it going all right? 9 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Well, now listen, before we get to the weekend, just 10 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: talk me through Argentina a little bit. This two week on, 11 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: two week off thing. Does that work for you? 12 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Ah? Oh, it makes it so. It's good for the body. 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: And as you're playing two big tests and then you 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: sort of have a week off and then I get 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: stuck into another two tests. But it's been like that 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: for a week while now, so yeah, it's not too bad. 17 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: And how much time we spent on what happened in Argentina? 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: And when did you move past that and focus on 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: this week? 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh, we got together on Sunday. It was obviously a 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: long week at home for everyone on the back of 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: a pretty tough loss. And yeah, we had a good 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: look in the mirror and covered everything on Sunday and 24 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: then obviously looking forward to Monday and the week that is, 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: because this is a big one. 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Too, it is do you guys, by the way, do 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: you break up in between? Go back home? 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so this is a long, long six days 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: at home and what do you do? Ah, Well, personally, 30 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: just you're back with the family and be present there 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: and so tip away and training and then yeah, just 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: do what I need to to come in ready to 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: go again for another couple of weeks. 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: And what have you got on this Australia South Africa thing? 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, have you personally followed that closely? And what 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: do you make of what happened there? 37 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? We were and Argie watching those games is in 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: a good time. I think. You know, Australia really played well. 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: You know they're a well got galvanized team on the 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: back of a lion series and you could see that 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: in the first Test in South Africa and they went 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: close again in the second. South Africa fixed a few 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: things obviously got the result, but just goes to show that, 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, this competition is pretty tight. 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: And is it tighter than you thought? You can see 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: if I'd asked you out to know, four weeks ago 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,279 Speaker 1: before the whole comp began, would you have thought, you know, something. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Different personally, No, I think you know, we lost the 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Ard last year, you know, a couple played ozziec and 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: then we lost to South Africa last year too, So 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: it's always close and that's the way you wanted us 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: as a Test footy but as all blacks, we need 53 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: to be better and that's what we're struggling to be see. 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: I can't see. That's what I can't work out whether 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: Australia is significantly better than we thought or South Africa 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: is off the pace of it. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: I think South Africa is still a great team. You know, 58 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: they really have their own identity of how they want 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: to play and they've been playing like that for the 60 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: last four plus years. You're just going to be able 61 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: to stop it. And they've got a bit of innovation. 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: And in Australia, you know, on the back of you know, 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: they've got some good coaching over there and they've got 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: great talent I think, and we're seeing them play well 65 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: on the Test arena. 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, So how much of this weekend for you 67 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: guys is about you know, going about your business versus 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of the old. You know, they added 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: something given the record so far the season and the 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: South Africans and the s Eden Park record. 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's everything on the line really this week. 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: You know, we're well aware of eating Park and and 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: we're well aware of the South Africa's aspirations to probably 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: do a job there. So yeah, this is what it's 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: all about. As an all back, this is where you 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: want to be. You know, either walk towards that pressure 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: or you don't. So it's been a really good week 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: so far, and yeah, looking forward to getting into it. 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: How do you handle pressure? It's a pressure a thing 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: for you. 81 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: It is I think everyone anyone will be lying if 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: they said they didn't feel it in the game. I 83 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: think you know we've It's something that you've got to 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: deal with and you've got to you got to make 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: a choice with her. You sort of step to it 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: or you don't. And it really is only one choice 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: in test footy because if you don't step up, then 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: you get found out. 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: And what do you expect of the South Africans, I mean, 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: what have you talked about this week? What do they bring? 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: I think, well, they know the way they want to 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 2: play their physical men. When they get down in your health, 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: they're going to try and beat ya, and then they 94 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: use their set piece to build a good platform for 95 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: their backs that can also play. They've got some great 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: skilled players in their team and they've got a lot 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: of variations, so they're a tough team to preview. But 98 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: atin the day it's just about physicality and turning up. 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: What about the Rainfilly shield, by the way, you're given 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: that and you thought you wish you were there. 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: There's been a bit of chat about that Ethan de grit. 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: It's been pretty pretty tough for the tests out this 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: week and right they say with the Southern boys and 104 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: there's build a band to now with the Canterbury lads 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: getting the cracks, So yeah, going for them, that's see. 106 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I think Canterbury will win and hold it obviously. The 107 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: only question is how many years will they hold it. 108 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Well, So it's a tough thing to hold. We had 109 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: Michael Jones in here this week earlier this week and 110 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: he was a part of the ten that held us 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: for sixty one games or something, which is something that 112 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: will never be broken. 113 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what weather, What about the weather's bother you? They say, 114 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I think they're saying it's raining tomorrow morning, but it'll 115 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: be fine by night. Does any of that matter? 116 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. When either way, when will dry, 117 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: it's going to be about rolling his flees up and 118 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: getting into it. 119 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: We'll go well with it. Cody Taylor All Black with 120 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: us this morning. 121 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 122 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio