1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks That Be Now. 3 00:00:13,533 --> 00:00:17,613 Speaker 2: Sustainability expert Kate Hall is here with details of her 4 00:00:18,133 --> 00:00:21,933 Speaker 2: very interesting new project this morning. Good morning, Kate, you 5 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:25,453 Speaker 2: have an incredible new project on the go, truth be told. 6 00:00:25,453 --> 00:00:26,693 Speaker 2: I actually feel like it's a bit of a shame 7 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:28,653 Speaker 2: that they haven't set up one of those reality TV 8 00:00:28,773 --> 00:00:32,333 Speaker 2: shows you know, ye, yeah, not yeah, you know, like 9 00:00:32,413 --> 00:00:34,373 Speaker 2: a couple moves to the south of France and ties 10 00:00:34,413 --> 00:00:37,693 Speaker 2: to restore an old barn, or you know, it's almost 11 00:00:37,693 --> 00:00:40,493 Speaker 2: like a Grand Designs project in a sense. Tell us 12 00:00:40,533 --> 00:00:42,333 Speaker 2: about your suburban homestead. 13 00:00:43,373 --> 00:00:46,013 Speaker 3: Yes, so, I mean, anyone's welcome to make a TV 14 00:00:46,053 --> 00:00:49,493 Speaker 3: show about it, always open to the idea. But basically 15 00:00:49,813 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 3: what we figured is so many people have the dream 16 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:56,653 Speaker 3: of buying a little slice of land, having like you know, 17 00:00:56,693 --> 00:00:59,733 Speaker 3: a milking cow and chickens and growing your own food. 18 00:00:59,853 --> 00:01:02,773 Speaker 3: And I think people, especially at the moment, are dreaming 19 00:01:02,813 --> 00:01:05,093 Speaker 3: of that with the price of everything, a little bit 20 00:01:05,133 --> 00:01:07,973 Speaker 3: of it more self sufficient. But the reality is most 21 00:01:08,013 --> 00:01:10,733 Speaker 3: of us can't do that. It's you know, out of 22 00:01:10,773 --> 00:01:14,693 Speaker 3: our cost range because the prices land and homes and 23 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:18,453 Speaker 3: it's just it feels impossible to most people. So what 24 00:01:18,493 --> 00:01:21,493 Speaker 3: we're doing because we have a very tiny slither of land, 25 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:24,333 Speaker 3: like very tiny, We've got eight neighbors, so it's in 26 00:01:24,573 --> 00:01:28,653 Speaker 3: dense you know, high density Subbia. We are trying to 27 00:01:28,693 --> 00:01:33,173 Speaker 3: show people what you can do with that situation, which 28 00:01:33,213 --> 00:01:35,733 Speaker 3: is quite a common situation for a lot of people. 29 00:01:35,773 --> 00:01:40,013 Speaker 3: So we're calling it the suburban homestead Projects and were, yeah, 30 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:44,053 Speaker 3: we've kicked it off. We've got you know, plans, new 31 00:01:44,093 --> 00:01:47,253 Speaker 3: plans for that for the outside, and we're just basically 32 00:01:47,693 --> 00:01:51,173 Speaker 3: creating a home that produces more wasteless and works with 33 00:01:51,373 --> 00:01:54,933 Speaker 3: nature and takes those principles. But on a little tiny slither. 34 00:01:55,173 --> 00:01:57,013 Speaker 2: What a great idea. So what are you gonna do? 35 00:01:57,093 --> 00:01:58,173 Speaker 2: What are the big changes? 36 00:01:59,253 --> 00:02:05,253 Speaker 3: So we're thinking of things like chickens, or specifically smaller chickens. 37 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:07,773 Speaker 2: Maybe quail have rules about chickens. 38 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:08,413 Speaker 1: Are you allowed? 39 00:02:08,573 --> 00:02:10,293 Speaker 2: There must be rules about where you're allowed chickens. 40 00:02:10,653 --> 00:02:14,653 Speaker 3: We can't have roasters and stuff like that. Reasonable, Yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:14,693 --> 00:02:17,493 Speaker 3: but I'm thinking about because chickens actually create that they 42 00:02:17,493 --> 00:02:22,173 Speaker 3: can be quite destructive, and so thinking about it's like quails, 43 00:02:22,213 --> 00:02:26,373 Speaker 3: you know, there's smaller Yeah, things like that. We're installing 44 00:02:26,573 --> 00:02:31,213 Speaker 3: solar panels, so thinking about how we can make yeah, 45 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:34,253 Speaker 3: use of bitter energy. So we're working with a company 46 00:02:34,253 --> 00:02:36,693 Speaker 3: called Cogo have actually built a tool that you can 47 00:02:36,733 --> 00:02:39,373 Speaker 3: see what cost and energy savings you can make in 48 00:02:39,413 --> 00:02:42,853 Speaker 3: your own home. So yeah, think about how we can 49 00:02:42,853 --> 00:02:45,573 Speaker 3: then use that that solar energy and what kind of 50 00:02:45,573 --> 00:02:49,133 Speaker 3: bitter systems we can have. And speaking of on the roof, 51 00:02:49,173 --> 00:02:50,893 Speaker 3: we're thinking of bee hives on the roof. 52 00:02:51,053 --> 00:02:54,213 Speaker 2: On the roof Yeah, wow cool. 53 00:02:54,653 --> 00:02:56,773 Speaker 3: Our roof is pretty great and set up for it. 54 00:02:56,773 --> 00:03:01,253 Speaker 3: It's like pretty flat and right, Yeah, you can have 55 00:03:01,653 --> 00:03:03,853 Speaker 3: I think that could be a bitter use of space 56 00:03:03,893 --> 00:03:06,973 Speaker 3: because we're thinking vertical, you know, with even with our guard. Yeah, 57 00:03:07,013 --> 00:03:10,813 Speaker 3: we're thinking like vertical gardening and doing things a bit differently. 58 00:03:12,053 --> 00:03:15,693 Speaker 3: We're also like our house is in nineteen sixties bungalow 59 00:03:15,773 --> 00:03:20,213 Speaker 3: that really needs a bit of TLC. So we're you know, 60 00:03:20,493 --> 00:03:24,653 Speaker 3: getting a new roof and thinking of like double glazing 61 00:03:24,693 --> 00:03:28,373 Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. We're finding New Zealand's 62 00:03:28,533 --> 00:03:34,533 Speaker 3: businesses that actually like do things more sustainably because the 63 00:03:34,933 --> 00:03:39,093 Speaker 3: construction and demolition waste accounts for forty to fifty percent 64 00:03:39,613 --> 00:03:41,813 Speaker 3: of total waste since landfill each year. 65 00:03:42,613 --> 00:03:47,253 Speaker 2: So that's a crazy as just huge. 66 00:03:47,213 --> 00:03:51,253 Speaker 3: Huge, and so yeah, we kind of want to show 67 00:03:51,293 --> 00:03:54,213 Speaker 3: people what you can do. We want to like, you know, 68 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:57,453 Speaker 3: work with these companies and see you know, compare prices 69 00:03:57,493 --> 00:03:59,613 Speaker 3: and all that type of stuff. Yeah, other people can 70 00:03:59,653 --> 00:04:01,213 Speaker 3: actually do it too. 71 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:04,253 Speaker 2: So you kind of document the journey basically, yes. 72 00:04:04,053 --> 00:04:07,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly because imagine if you know, even if 73 00:04:07,893 --> 00:04:11,013 Speaker 3: we all just made small decisions, but around our home, 74 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:13,813 Speaker 3: around big things like you know, your new roof, things 75 00:04:13,853 --> 00:04:16,933 Speaker 3: like that, that can actually really yeah, make a huge impact. 76 00:04:17,053 --> 00:04:19,813 Speaker 3: So we're working with Eco Choice Al. I don't know 77 00:04:19,853 --> 00:04:23,453 Speaker 3: if you've seen their little kind of eco certification tick 78 00:04:23,573 --> 00:04:26,293 Speaker 3: and a lot of construction things or your paint buckets 79 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:29,253 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but they have been around for 80 00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:34,453 Speaker 3: ages and certify construction based companies. So that's been really. 81 00:04:34,333 --> 00:04:37,453 Speaker 2: Helpful to fantastic. So they can help you work out 82 00:04:37,453 --> 00:04:38,733 Speaker 2: which companies to work with. 83 00:04:39,173 --> 00:04:39,893 Speaker 1: Yes, then you. 84 00:04:39,853 --> 00:04:41,853 Speaker 2: Can work out what might be the most sustainable way. 85 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:42,173 Speaker 1: Yeah. 86 00:04:42,173 --> 00:04:44,293 Speaker 2: Sure, right, So it's not just a case of being 87 00:04:44,293 --> 00:04:45,973 Speaker 2: like we're going to do that. We're gonna have solar panels, 88 00:04:45,973 --> 00:04:47,533 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a garden, and we're going to have beehives, 89 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:50,293 Speaker 2: et cetera. It's like we've actually any construction stuff that 90 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,653 Speaker 2: we're going to do, we're going to try and build 91 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 2: in the most sustainable way rather than what's necessarily the quickest, 92 00:04:55,653 --> 00:04:56,653 Speaker 2: all the cheapest. 93 00:04:56,853 --> 00:04:59,893 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Yeah. Absolutely, So it's a mixture of 94 00:05:00,213 --> 00:05:03,173 Speaker 3: we'll be trying to like reuse things and you know, 95 00:05:03,853 --> 00:05:07,333 Speaker 3: like we're going to try to rain water harvesting, you know, 96 00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:10,213 Speaker 3: so we can water the garden more efficiently, especially in summer. 97 00:05:10,613 --> 00:05:13,733 Speaker 3: And so currently we have got like some old up 98 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:17,173 Speaker 3: cycled big barrel things, so yeah, you can we actually 99 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:21,613 Speaker 3: use these productively or do we need to, yeah, get 100 00:05:21,653 --> 00:05:24,013 Speaker 3: another solution. So it's a mixture of like gooi, but 101 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:26,173 Speaker 3: also working on sustainable businesses and. 102 00:05:26,293 --> 00:05:28,293 Speaker 2: Dear, I suggest that none of these, none of these 103 00:05:28,293 --> 00:05:31,773 Speaker 2: big ticket things are super woo woo. You know, like 104 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:34,133 Speaker 2: my you know, my my parents collect rain water, and 105 00:05:34,253 --> 00:05:36,813 Speaker 2: you know, I know people with solar panels and you know, 106 00:05:36,893 --> 00:05:40,973 Speaker 2: and and beehives and all of that stuff, and and 107 00:05:40,973 --> 00:05:43,093 Speaker 2: and I don't know anyone with quails, but chickens have 108 00:05:43,173 --> 00:05:45,613 Speaker 2: certainly got a big text. I mean, these are all 109 00:05:45,653 --> 00:05:48,253 Speaker 2: perfectly sustainable, you know, they're not They're not super out 110 00:05:48,293 --> 00:05:51,093 Speaker 2: there changes but as you say, if more of us 111 00:05:51,413 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 2: just did a little bit, it would collectively equate to 112 00:05:56,093 --> 00:05:57,613 Speaker 2: a significant. 113 00:05:57,013 --> 00:06:01,213 Speaker 3: Change, exactly. And then it's also much more durable on 114 00:06:01,253 --> 00:06:04,533 Speaker 3: a daily basis because you know, having people call it 115 00:06:04,573 --> 00:06:08,493 Speaker 3: a life sentence block, don't the kind of a lifestyle block, 116 00:06:08,573 --> 00:06:11,293 Speaker 3: because that actually involves a lot of labor, a lot 117 00:06:11,333 --> 00:06:14,653 Speaker 3: of time where you know, there's still we're still working, 118 00:06:14,773 --> 00:06:19,173 Speaker 3: like there's still Yeah, So I think doing it on 119 00:06:19,173 --> 00:06:22,853 Speaker 3: a small scale is also quite efficient in that sense 120 00:06:22,893 --> 00:06:25,253 Speaker 3: that you get all the joys of growing your own 121 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:28,293 Speaker 3: food and you know, going to I can't wait to 122 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:31,333 Speaker 3: go get the eggs in the morning with my daughter. Yeah, 123 00:06:31,453 --> 00:06:35,413 Speaker 3: things like that. That really that's all the good parts 124 00:06:35,453 --> 00:06:38,173 Speaker 3: of what we want from a lifestyle block. Rights, so good, 125 00:06:38,493 --> 00:06:40,493 Speaker 3: all the lovely fields. But yeah, we can get that 126 00:06:41,213 --> 00:06:43,253 Speaker 3: without having to move to the blop. 127 00:06:43,413 --> 00:06:46,213 Speaker 2: I'm really excited and I hope that you will as 128 00:06:46,253 --> 00:06:49,893 Speaker 2: well as sharing us, sharing with us your successes. I 129 00:06:49,933 --> 00:06:51,773 Speaker 2: know you do this, make sure you tell us what 130 00:06:51,893 --> 00:06:54,453 Speaker 2: turns out to be more challenging than you expect it, right, 131 00:06:54,493 --> 00:06:57,533 Speaker 2: Like those are the things that are often really useful 132 00:06:57,933 --> 00:06:59,893 Speaker 2: from a learning side of the equation. 133 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:03,053 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we're hopefully going to do it and make 134 00:07:03,093 --> 00:07:06,493 Speaker 3: all the mistakes. So yeah, yeah, so we shouldn't have 135 00:07:06,573 --> 00:07:10,373 Speaker 3: chickens because the name Kats are gonna yeah. 136 00:07:11,853 --> 00:07:13,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, work out the right things. Hey, thank 137 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:16,093 Speaker 2: you so much, Kate. How exciting. So you can follow 138 00:07:16,173 --> 00:07:19,853 Speaker 2: Kate's journey on her social media channels to search ethically 139 00:07:19,973 --> 00:07:22,893 Speaker 2: Kate on social media, her name will pop right up. 140 00:07:23,413 --> 00:07:26,533 Speaker 2: It's sixteen minutes past eleven on new Stalk See. But 141 00:07:26,573 --> 00:07:29,253 Speaker 2: thank you very much for your feedback. John says Jack 142 00:07:29,453 --> 00:07:32,733 Speaker 2: Kate's homestead project sounds like that old English program from 143 00:07:32,773 --> 00:07:35,293 Speaker 2: back in the day. It's called The Good Life. I'm 144 00:07:35,293 --> 00:07:38,053 Speaker 2: get it sounds like about ten different programs, doesn't it does? 145 00:07:38,093 --> 00:07:41,373 Speaker 2: There is a slightly idyllic kind of quality, especially when 146 00:07:41,413 --> 00:07:44,773 Speaker 2: planning it out. It's always interesting to see if the 147 00:07:44,813 --> 00:07:47,333 Speaker 2: reality matches the dream. But I'm sure Kate's going to 148 00:07:47,453 --> 00:07:49,373 Speaker 2: keep us up to speed to that with that. 149 00:07:50,013 --> 00:07:53,133 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 150 00:07:53,213 --> 00:07:56,053 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 151 00:07:56,133 --> 00:07:58,013 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.