1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Seven hither duper Peter Lewis our Asia business correspondents with 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: US had Peter. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Good evening head. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Yes, so a bit of a bummer about the imports 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: and exports numbers out of China. 6 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And it's important for China because trade has 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: really been one of the few bright spots in the 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: economy overall over the last few quarters, but it's slowed drastically. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Exports who a up two point four percent and that 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: compares to almost nine percent in the previous month. Imports 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: have almost completely stored. They barely barely rose at all. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Not too difficult to find. Where the culprit for this 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: is Exports to the European Union and the US marks 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: their slowest rise in at least four months, and that's 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: because of tariff's. Tariffs are having their effects. The model 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: at the moment for China's economy is to direct a 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: lot of resources into what President Chi Jinping caused new 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: productive forces, and he means by that things like electric vehicles, 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: solar panels, batteries and so on. A lot of money 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: being poured into companies in those sectors and the result 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: is they're producing far more than the Chinese themselves can consume, 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: so that excess needs to be exported overseas. Now, in 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: previous years that would have been welcomed because it helps 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: keep prices down, not welcome anymore. The EU and the 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: US are pushing back mightily against that with tariffs. Donald 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: Trump has said he doesn't want to see one single 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Chinese car sold in the US, and he's going to 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: put tariffs on them so high to make sure that 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: that happens. So this is having an impact on the 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: overall economy. We just had, in fact, this morning China's 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: GDP figures out for the third quarter and they slowed 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: from four point seven percent to four point six percent, 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: so already signs that it's having an impact. And this 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: is why we're seeing this raft of announcements from all 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: sorts of government departs about stimulus and money being used 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: to try and support the Chinese economy, to try and 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: revive the property market, which has been in a slump 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: for over three years now, and to try and also 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: deal with all the bad debts that are on the 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: balance sheets of local governments because they bought they've taken 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: on so much in the property sector. So it's having 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: an impact throughout the Chinese economy. 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: What do you make of there some profit number that's 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: just come out of TSMC. 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: Oh, it's very very good, isn't it. Nurged fifty four 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: percent reported a net profit of ten point one billion 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: US dollars. What this shows is just how important Taiwan 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: is in the global supply chain these days because it 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: is the largest chip maker in the world. All the 50 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: big chip designers and manufact like Navidia are clients of TSMC, 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: and it's making a huge amount of chips that are 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: driving all this investment in artificial intelligence, and it's really 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: been supported by chips that are needed for this AI boom, 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: and TSMC is the leading manufacturer of these chips. And 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the results have come at an important time because there 56 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: has been some fears that the AI boom is slowing, 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: particularly after we had results earlier last week from ASML, 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: which is the Dutch company that supplies the machines that 59 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: are used to make the world's most involved ships. They 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: reported orders that were about half of anlysts expectations, So 61 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: there was a fear that the semiconductor boom was slowing, 62 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: but these results from TSMC have rather allaid those fears. 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: It's also I'm sure going to attract the attention at 64 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: some point to Donald Trump, because he doesn't like things 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: being exported from overseas that are made overseas. And of 66 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: course Taiwan is a massive exporter of these chips. Although 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: it is investing a huge amount of money in Arizona 68 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: to build up some plants there. It's got three that 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: it's building at the moment that I suspect Taiwan is 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: going to fall at some point into the cross hairs 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Well probably undoubtedly. Hey, this idea from Hong Kong of 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: boosting the domestic economy by making alcohol cheaper, is it 74 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: actually work? 75 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: Yes, well, we wonder can Hong Kong drink any more? Already? 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: What this is about is about a tax on liquor. 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: There is a one hundred percent tax on liquor at 78 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: the moment that is going to be cut so that 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: it's just fifteen percent, So it takes it back to 80 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: levels of about ten or more years ago. But it's 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: only on liquor where there's a price of two hundred 82 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: Hong Kong dollars of an import price of two hundred dollars. 83 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: So the Financial Secretary said, it means that eighty five 84 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: percent of duties are going to be unchanged. But nevertheless, 85 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: the hope is that this will help boost tourism, which 86 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: has been decimated since the pandemic, and about seventy percent 87 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: of bar owners have reported very sharp drops in revenues 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: because tourists aren't coming and locals aren't going out anymore. 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: There's been a huge number of bars in Hong Kong 90 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: which have closed down in the last couple of years. 91 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: So the hope from the Chief Executive in his policy 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: address this week where he announced this is that it's 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: going to give a boost to the tourism sector. That 94 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: the problem is Hong Kong needs to find some new 95 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: areas where it can boost growth because these traditional areas 96 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: like property, like shipping, like tourism and retail are just 97 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: not working at the moment. The economy has changed. Hong 98 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Kongers aren't spending as much in Hong Kong. They're going 99 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: over the border to Shenzen to spend their money where 100 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: it's far cheaper. So Hong Kong can't rely on these 101 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: traditional sectors anymore to be a driver of growth in 102 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: the way they used to be in previous years. 103 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. Peter thanks so much man. We'll talk to 104 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: you in a week's time. Again, it's Peter Lewis as 105 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: your business correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 107 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.