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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons ZB podcast for Tuesday, the seventeenth of

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Speaker 2: December and the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Hell of a show today. We talked a bunch about businesses.

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Speaker 2: We had some in depth analysis of the terrible financial

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Speaker 3: In yep, a lot of red on those books. Caught

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Speaker 3: up with Brad Olsen, who's always an insightful economist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we talked to Nadia Limb. I had

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Speaker 2: a great little chat there. So I hope you enjoy

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk zedby.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, You welcome into Tuesday seven past one. Well,

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Speaker 3: the half yearly Economic and Fiscal update has just been released.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Treasury has confirmed the government's expected surplus

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Speaker 2: has been pushed out from twenty twenty seven to twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty at the earliest as New Zealand's economic conditions deteriorate.

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Speaker 3: We knew it was going to be bad, but that

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Speaker 3: is bad, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Twenty thirty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez. So we're going to dig into more of

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Speaker 3: that half yearly economic update with Jason Wolves very shortly,

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Speaker 3: but it's a quick preview on the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. After three, our Great New Zealanders of Christmas series

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Speaker 2: continues with Nadia Limb. She's going to join us from

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Speaker 2: the farm down in Central Otago. Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Or so, we're giving away a couple of copies of

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Speaker 2: my book A Life Less Punishing A great Christmas President

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Speaker 2: of that's great book.

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Speaker 3: And after two o'clock or maybe even a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 3: we want to talk about what's a name when it

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Speaker 3: comes to a business. This is on the Bank of

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Speaker 3: s bq R. It was taken over by sisters Bronwin

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Speaker 3: and Jessica Payne, and they've now got a new name

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Speaker 3: for that business, Jacuzzi.

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Speaker 2: If you're not from Auckland, s PQR might not mean

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Speaker 2: a kind of pretentious Alfrisco dining outfit on Ponsonby Road.

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Speaker 2: A great food, but there was a lot of who's

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Speaker 2: was so for a number of years. So s PQR

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Speaker 3: It's a bold, moved name.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it, but I don't have any skin

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Speaker 2: like you're going to be sitting in a spar pool.

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk about naming your companies. How

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Speaker 2: hard is it to pick the business name for your company?

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Speaker 2: Have you got it wrong? Have you had to change

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Speaker 2: the name of your business? And what is a brilliant

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Speaker 2: had As I was saying before, I have a three

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Speaker 2: D motion graphics company and it was called effective aff

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Speaker 2: And we used to say if it's not an effective effect.

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Speaker 2: If you see an effect and it's not an effective effect,

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Speaker 2: it's not an effective effects effect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clever, clever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but by having a comedy kind of name for

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Speaker 2: So we eventually changed it. Now it's called Vinewood Motion Graphics,

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Speaker 2: nearly all the same employees, but it has a more

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Speaker 3: And Dad when he was creating his electrical company, and

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Speaker 3: thinking about puns in clever ways that he could name

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Speaker 3: later on plain and simple and did the job. I wait,

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Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty open up those phone lines

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Speaker 3: very shortly. But after we play some messages, we're going

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Speaker 3: to catch up with Jason Wilves to dig into this

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Speaker 3: half yearly economic and fiscal update. And it looks like

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Speaker 3: there's a bit of bad news, so stand by. It

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talks dead.

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Speaker 4: This is a news talk, said B. Developing story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so just release the half yearly economic and fiscal update.

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Speaker 3: Our political editor, Jason Wolves has been in the lockup.

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Speaker 3: Get a, Jason, get a.

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Speaker 5: They've released me from the lock up and here I be.

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Speaker 2: Better than the locker. No, much worse than a locker.

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Speaker 2: Think about my days back in England. So, Jason, how

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Speaker 2: bad is our nation's fiscal situation?

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Speaker 5: Look, you know Nikola Willis and the Finance and the

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Speaker 5: Prime Minister. Rather, we're holding true to their downbeag beat

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: That was supposed to come into effect in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 5: That's when the surplus was supposed to be happening. That's

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Speaker 5: now being pushed out to beyond twenty thirty. Now, the

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Speaker 5: budget cycles only go in these sort of one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty nine financial year. We can't see beyond that,

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Speaker 5: so we technically don't know if it's going to be worse.

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Speaker 5: So we can say at least twenty thirty is when

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Speaker 5: that I just mentioned, Obergel. I won't give you the

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Speaker 5: what the government has done is they've essentially isolated that.

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Speaker 5: They've ring fenced this deficit so it doesn't sit alongside

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Speaker 5: up with a completely new measure that is four point

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Speaker 5: called Obergel. What they're calling it is Obergel X, like

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Speaker 5: it's the new iPhone.

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Speaker 3: Or something like that.

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Speaker 5: An X on the end of it, and everything's gonna

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Speaker 5: be hunky dory. But by the twenty twenty nine financial

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Speaker 5: year they're anticipating a one point nine billion dollar surplus

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Speaker 5: by the OLBI girl X measure. So in terms of

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Speaker 5: the fiscals, you know, things are looking bad. Things are

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Speaker 5: looking worse than the government expected. But hey, they've done

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Speaker 5: a little bit of swanky pr here.

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Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, sounds like it. So obviously the

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Speaker 3: economist Jason, do you think they'll look at that new

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Speaker 3: way of calculating the operating balance and say, hang on

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Speaker 3: a minute, that's a bit of trickery.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, the economists might even agree with something

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Speaker 5: up to handle large deficits and then large as large surpluses.

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Speaker 5: So if it's a bit down one year and a

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Speaker 5: it comes to making various different policies. For example, I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're going to cry, you've shifted the goal posts. You've

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Speaker 5: shifted the goalposts, You've done something that makes your books

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Speaker 5: matter if it's technically correct, or if it is actually

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Speaker 5: a more prudent way of measuring the ober gel in

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Speaker 5: the first place, it just looks a little bit naff

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Speaker 2: And what does this worsen expect result mean for every

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the million dollar question, isn't it. But at

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Speaker 5: might not be able to loosen that, ie, bring it

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Speaker 5: And as we know, the ocr is directly correlated to

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Speaker 5: there is some link there. In fact, it is probably

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Speaker 5: quite a strong link, but we'll have to be quite

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Speaker 5: expected in the budget. We talked earlier today about how

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Speaker 5: we're expecting to see the New Zealand economy go back

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Speaker 5: into a technical recession when we see those GDP numbers

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Speaker 5: when she was talking about the New Zealand economy today.

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Speaker 5: I mean she was talking about there are some good

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Speaker 5: and then five point one by twenty twenty eight. Some

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Speaker 5: good news on the housing market. And there's some other

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Speaker 5: good news and employment. They're expecting unemployment to peek at

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Speaker 5: five point four percent in June next year, in inflation

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Speaker 5: to four below that two percent mark at some point

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Speaker 3: Yeahs, Sir Nichola Willis previously signaled she was looking at

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Speaker 5: Hinting that that was coming on budget day. I mean

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Speaker 5: She was very clear it wasn't anything along the lines

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, Jason, well done. We will certainly chat about

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Speaker 5: Thanks back. I'll talk to you later.

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Speaker 3: That is news Talks. He'd be political editor Jason Will's

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Speaker 3: right after the ad break, we're going to catch up

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Speaker 3: with Brad Olsen, Infometric's chief executive, to break this down

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Speaker 3: from an economic point of view. It is twenty three

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking

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Speaker 3: Is the Prime Minister Chris luxon the phone in school's band.

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Speaker 9: I was very passionate about I'd seen it in other

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Speaker 4: Why did you care so much about it?

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Speaker 9: Basically, Sybul's teachers, parents, kids filed out of control about it.

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Speaker 9: The reality was at a massive distraction in the classroom.

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Speaker 4: We've got serious.

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Speaker 9: Issues around literacy and numeracies. We've talked before in small attendance.

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Speaker 9: Those are the three things we've got to focus on,

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Speaker 9: and it's been cool because actually, yes, we took a

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Speaker 9: We are going through windows again, kids are actually talking

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Speaker 1: Hither Duplessyen on the mic asking breakfast back tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: six am with Bailey's Real Estate on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six past one. We're talking about the half yearly

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Speaker 3: view on it. We're joined by Brad Olsen Infometrics, chief

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Speaker 3: executive and friend of the show, Get a bred, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Any big surprises for you in today's announcement in.

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Speaker 10: A sense, not really.

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Speaker 11: I mean, most of the economic indicators were going to

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Speaker 11: With the big surprise with a new fiscal indicator the

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Speaker 3: On how bad it was.

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Speaker 11: It was just how much less money the government is

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Speaker 11: That's a big gap that you have to borrow in

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Speaker 12: Lot worse than it might have been.

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Speaker 3: Expecting any nervousness from you for next year, brad Olsen,

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Speaker 3: it was long indicated survived till twenty twenty five, but

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the big challenge in the Treasury did

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Speaker 11: It is going to be a bit of a slower burn,

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Speaker 11: out to kiwis, but I'm not getting nearly as much

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Speaker 2: So survive to twenty five, then get your cacks in

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Maybe that works.

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Speaker 3: That's a better one.

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Speaker 2: Now, in your opinion, how much is this the world

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Speaker 11: I only look, everyone likes to clout politics with it,

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Speaker 11: You're right as well, the global conditions aren't fantastic.

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Speaker 11: Long story short, Treasury did say that they expected that

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Speaker 11: It does I think just set the tone for a

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Speaker 11: which means I've got a very narrow number of choices.

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Speaker 12: To make that have some pretty big implications.

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Speaker 11: It is going to be a very difficult period, I

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Speaker 3: Brad, thank you very much for the expertise. As always,

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Speaker 3: thank you catch up soon. That is brand Olson Infometrics

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Speaker 3: Chief executive and economist. Headlines coming up is bang on

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Speaker 3: one thirty.

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Speaker 13: the black in mid twenty twenty nine. The PSA says

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Speaker 13: over ongoing works at Transmission Gully in ZTA will take

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Speaker 13: responsibility for completing the project and ongoing work. National and

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Speaker 13: local company is seeking money as failed housing company goes

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Speaker 13: into liquidation. You can find out more that in said here.

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Speaker 13: We'll premium Back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Very thank you, very much, railing tun you, Mike On

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Speaker 3: Tyler Wright. We're going to change tech over the next

458
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Speaker 3: week while we want to talk about business names on

459
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Speaker 3: the back of a very popular restaurant in Auckland changing

460
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Speaker 3: its name.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Tyler spq R. If you're from Auckland, you'll

462
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Speaker 2: know who that is. They're on Pons Toby Road. They've

463
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Speaker 2: got new management and they've changed their name too. Are

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Speaker 2: you ready for it? Jacuzzie, they ask key resort. I

465
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Speaker 2: don't know how they're running it. I don't know if

466
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Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of sparkles in there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how the whole thing's going to work.

468
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Speaker 2: But it's called Jacuzzi. And my natural response to that is,

469
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a great name for a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk about naming companies and naming

472
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Speaker 2: your business because a lot of people out there have

473
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Speaker 2: to do it. We're a nation that starts a lot

474
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Speaker 2: of little companies and a lot of the businesses, and

475
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Speaker 2: and if you've got a business. You need a name

476
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Speaker 2: for it. So how do you pick the business name?

477
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Speaker 2: And have you got it wrong before? And have you

478
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Speaker 2: had to change the name of your business because you've

479
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Speaker 2: got it wrong like I have on a couple of occasions.

480
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Speaker 2: And what is a brilliant name you have for you

481
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Speaker 2: for your business. I used to have a business called

482
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Speaker 2: Video Nasties and reproduced television shows and it was a

483
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Speaker 2: reference to a type of show. But there used to

484
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Speaker 2: be it was a song by the band The Damned

485
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Speaker 2: Video Nasty catch Catch the Horror Taxi. Anyway, but then

486
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Speaker 2: it just sounded like we're making adult movies. So really

487
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Speaker 2: we were making stunt based TV shows and movies and souff.

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Speaker 3: I'd be intrigued if I saw a business in Video nastis,

489
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Speaker 3: Oh what do these guys do? Yeah, just so you

490
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Speaker 3: change the name in the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we changed the name we had to to anyway,

492
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Speaker 2: the name that we change it two wasn't there much better.

493
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Speaker 2: It was Back of the Way Limited. But anyway, that

494
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Speaker 2: that and I had another company that was called Effective

495
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Speaker 2: Effects and we had to change that because it just

496
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Speaker 2: sounded too amateur. So we changed it to Vinewood Motion Graphics.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is getting your business name rights as key.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I mentioned before Dad he's an electrician

499
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Speaker 3: or was. He's semi retired now and since sold the business.

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Speaker 3: But he was trying to think of the name when

501
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Speaker 3: he went and started up his business, and he thought

502
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Speaker 3: about all these electrical puns like souge electrical or shockingly good, sparky,

503
00:23:37,133 --> 00:23:38,733
Speaker 3: you know, all that sort of say yeah, it's not bad,

504
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Speaker 3: is it. But then after about six months of going

505
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Speaker 3: through this process and talking to marketing people and brand people,

506
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Speaker 3: and then someone said to him, what about just the

507
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Speaker 3: electric company? So he just looked at that and thought, yeah,

508
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Speaker 3: this is it all the electric company. You know what

509
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Speaker 3: you're getting with the electric company.

510
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Speaker 2: But people of a certain age think that's a great

511
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Speaker 2: name because it was that TV show The Electric Company.

512
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Speaker 2: But otherwise, and that's a brilliant one because for certain people,

513
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Speaker 2: the electric company, it's a great it's kind of a

514
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Speaker 2: pun on a TV show. It also describes exactly what

515
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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one percent, And that was in the of the

517
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Speaker 3: Yellow Pages where if you needed the electric company or

518
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Speaker 3: a electric company boom. He was right there. But oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty there's some great Texs coming through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you have you got it wrong before with

521
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Speaker 2: your company name and had to change it? Or have

522
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Speaker 2: you got it right? And what is your brilliant company name?

523
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Speaker 2: Or if there's a brilliant company name out there, then

524
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Speaker 2: give us a l eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine

525
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Speaker 2: to two, nineteen ninety two. A Darcy Watergrave was just

526
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Speaker 2: telling me about a company called Transfer, which takes pets

527
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Speaker 2: between countries.

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Speaker 3: I like that. It's good for if you are very clever.

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Speaker 2: That's clever.

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Speaker 3: Now give us a buzz. It is twenty three to two.

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Speaker 1: Walk you're new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoon Call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Say'd be good afternoon? It is twenty to two.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should talk to the people that have calling there.

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Speaker 2: They're changing them well bought SPQR and calling it JACUZZI.

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Speaker 2: We do wish them well, yeah, I do feel bad

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Speaker 2: for putting the boot in. You know they're starting, but

538
00:25:11,773 --> 00:25:14,453
Speaker 2: the least there there's that hospo. I support it, and

539
00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:17,572
Speaker 2: you know I wish them all the best. And how

540
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Speaker 2: much difference can the name of your company make?

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Speaker 14: Really?

542
00:25:20,573 --> 00:25:20,893
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like they if they serve great food and it's a

544
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Speaker 2: great time, and they have the fantastic Alfrisco dining situation.

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Speaker 2: Then Jacuzzie may absolutely go off and they may know

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Speaker 2: something I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, Bronwyn and Jessica Payne, if you're listening right now,

548
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Speaker 3: give us a buzz. You know we we wish you

549
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Speaker 3: all the best with Jacuzzi.

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Speaker 2: We just want to know why you called your restaurant Jacuzzi.

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00:25:41,053 --> 00:25:42,773
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're gonna be sitting in sparpalls. You

552
00:25:42,853 --> 00:25:43,893
Speaker 2: must have a reason.

553
00:25:44,133 --> 00:25:48,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, there's plenty

554
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Speaker 3: of great teas coming through.

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00:25:49,813 --> 00:25:52,413
Speaker 2: My last name is Baker. I'm in a digital recruitment

556
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Speaker 2: into in digital recruitment and called my company the Digital Bakery.

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Speaker 2: A bit of a laugh. People remember at actual bakery

558
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Speaker 2: you can get a pie or a sandwich. At the

559
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Speaker 2: digital Bakery, you can get the likes of a software

560
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Speaker 2: developer or user experience designer. Cheers. I've just a little

561
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Speaker 2: bonus for people that ring up on this subject and

562
00:26:12,373 --> 00:26:15,013
Speaker 2: text in, is that we're just gonna say the name

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Speaker 2: of their company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, well not a bit of simp of

565
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Speaker 3: self promotion, but nothing wrong with it absolutely.

566
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Speaker 2: But also I'd like to hear people that had a

567
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Speaker 2: name for their company and realized it wasn't working and

568
00:26:28,693 --> 00:26:32,893
Speaker 2: changed it and why and with the change actually worked,

569
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Speaker 2: Because what's in a name? As they say, the Rose

570
00:26:36,973 --> 00:26:40,413
Speaker 2: by any other what's the Shakespeare line, which still.

571
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Speaker 3: Rose by any other name will still be a rose

572
00:26:42,613 --> 00:26:45,773
Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, I've completely butchered Shakespeare.

573
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Speaker 2: S PQR or any other name will still be Jacuzzi.

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Speaker 3: Craig, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 15: The good top of people are really clear. In London

576
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Speaker 15: years ago there was a furniture store and are called

577
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Speaker 15: Sofa Keen. Yeah, okay, it's a king and their slogan

578
00:27:05,173 --> 00:27:09,333
Speaker 15: was our sweets are sofar king. It's comfortable.

579
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Speaker 2: That's clever.

580
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

581
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Speaker 15: It was really well done. And there was a good

582
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Speaker 15: good store and they still I don't know this was

583
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Speaker 15: this was.

584
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Speaker 3: The eighte Yeah, did you buy a sofa from them?

585
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Speaker 16: No?

586
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Speaker 3: No, no, that's very clever though. Yeah, good on your Craig,

587
00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:33,532
Speaker 3: thank you. Our sofas are so be careful twilight, Yeah no,

588
00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:37,013
Speaker 3: don't go down the tracks time, Richard? How are you?

589
00:27:38,253 --> 00:27:39,893
Speaker 14: I'm radiance today?

590
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Speaker 8: How are you going?

591
00:27:40,813 --> 00:27:41,333
Speaker 3: Radiance?

592
00:27:41,933 --> 00:27:42,133
Speaker 4: Like that?

593
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Speaker 14: So business name is a subject very close to my heart.

594
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Speaker 14: I'll give you a couple of three because I've been

595
00:27:50,813 --> 00:27:54,413
Speaker 14: in various businesses over my life, but currently my business

596
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Speaker 14: is it is called manage my property.

597
00:27:57,533 --> 00:27:58,533
Speaker 2: Manage my property.

598
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:01,733
Speaker 14: And I have had people go so what do you do?

599
00:28:04,453 --> 00:28:04,653
Speaker 4: Yeah?

600
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:08,533
Speaker 14: Read the car. I also used to have a business

601
00:28:08,733 --> 00:28:13,013
Speaker 14: in this country called More Balls than Most, and we

602
00:28:13,053 --> 00:28:16,572
Speaker 14: supplied juggling equipment and kites and stuff like that. It

603
00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:20,493
Speaker 14: was moderately successful and still moderately well known.

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Speaker 2: More more Balls than Most that's the one. Yep, yep, yep. Okay,

605
00:28:25,493 --> 00:28:26,933
Speaker 2: that's that sort of describes it.

606
00:28:28,093 --> 00:28:31,533
Speaker 14: It does describe it. Yeah, it did. And I had

607
00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:34,893
Speaker 14: a vending machine business and we called it stuff You.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah.

609
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Speaker 14: Answering the phone. Answering the phone was tricky because you

610
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Speaker 14: used to see good morning, stuff you.

611
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Speaker 2: So have you ever had a company that you've called something, say,

612
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:49,093
Speaker 2: for example, stuff You, and thought, hang on it, this

613
00:28:49,133 --> 00:28:51,333
Speaker 2: isn't working and my business isn't going. Well, maybe it's

614
00:28:51,373 --> 00:28:52,293
Speaker 2: the name and changed it.

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00:28:53,453 --> 00:28:55,573
Speaker 14: Oh, I wish I could think of an example. I've

616
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Speaker 14: seen a few company names and you just look at

617
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Speaker 14: it and you go, what were they thinking? And I

618
00:29:00,653 --> 00:29:04,693
Speaker 14: think Jacuzzi might be sliding into that arena a little bit,

619
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Speaker 14: but yeah, I think you have to put a lot

620
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Speaker 14: of thought into your your name to make it see

621
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Speaker 14: what you do. A lot of companies don't actually say

622
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Speaker 14: what they do. They say they're good all pursuing excellence.

623
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Speaker 14: But yeah, that's pretty unimaginative.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, wells was manage my company? Is one of

625
00:29:25,653 --> 00:29:26,933
Speaker 2: your companies? Is that right?

626
00:29:27,253 --> 00:29:28,853
Speaker 14: Manage my manage my property?

627
00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:33,053
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, sorry, manage my property, so you can. I

628
00:29:33,053 --> 00:29:34,893
Speaker 2: guess there can only be one manage my property though.

629
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Speaker 2: But that describes exactly what you're doing. I kind of

630
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Speaker 2: think of that with movies. I think of that with movies.

631
00:29:39,293 --> 00:29:42,053
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a movie and it doesn't describe what it is.

632
00:29:42,453 --> 00:29:44,973
Speaker 2: I blame that for its failure late. I think Kung

633
00:29:45,053 --> 00:29:46,933
Speaker 2: Fu Panda is a very good name for the movie.

634
00:29:47,013 --> 00:29:47,733
Speaker 2: Kung Fu Panda.

635
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Speaker 3: You know what you're going to get describes, describes exactly

636
00:29:51,053 --> 00:29:51,453
Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 8: It does.

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Speaker 3: Richard, thank you, thank you very much. There's a business

639
00:29:55,813 --> 00:29:58,173
Speaker 3: down in price he did seem radiant. He did, he

640
00:29:58,213 --> 00:30:01,693
Speaker 3: did very radiant. A business down in Christchurch and it's

641
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:04,293
Speaker 3: called Pooh Man Rain Layers. And I've just always loved

642
00:30:04,293 --> 00:30:06,133
Speaker 3: that name when I first saw it, and I'm giving

643
00:30:06,173 --> 00:30:08,053
Speaker 3: you a shout out, pooh Man, if you're listening. But

644
00:30:08,093 --> 00:30:10,933
Speaker 3: when I saw that driving our great round Christis, I thought, yeah,

645
00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:11,813
Speaker 3: that's a great name.

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00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:13,493
Speaker 2: I think it's great disgusting.

647
00:30:13,613 --> 00:30:16,533
Speaker 3: I will ring pooh man if my drains need need unclogging.

648
00:30:16,573 --> 00:30:18,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes your drains aren't for that. There's all

649
00:30:18,573 --> 00:30:20,493
Speaker 2: different types of drains. I don't want to yuck.

650
00:30:20,733 --> 00:30:22,413
Speaker 3: Well, pooh Man, if you're listening, give us a buzz

651
00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:23,413
Speaker 3: as well. Defend your name.

652
00:30:23,973 --> 00:30:25,773
Speaker 2: Well, I'm the guy that made the TV show poo Man.

653
00:30:25,693 --> 00:30:28,573
Speaker 3: And we so I can talk James, how are you?

654
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Speaker 12: How are we doing?

655
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Speaker 17: God?

656
00:30:30,933 --> 00:30:32,213
Speaker 3: You got some business names for us?

657
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Speaker 12: Well, my partner and I were setting up a new

658
00:30:36,013 --> 00:30:38,973
Speaker 12: company and we knew the business name, but we didn't

659
00:30:39,013 --> 00:30:41,453
Speaker 12: know what company we were going to use. And so

660
00:30:41,613 --> 00:30:43,453
Speaker 12: my parents used to have a batch on the West

661
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:46,853
Speaker 12: Coast and they affectionately called it Camp David, named after

662
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Speaker 12: the presidential retreat. So we we went with Camp David Limited.

663
00:30:53,053 --> 00:30:55,813
Speaker 2: And what did Camp David Limited do?

664
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Speaker 12: So we've got the four square over a beautiful diamond harbor.

665
00:31:01,973 --> 00:31:04,373
Speaker 12: But every time we fell out an account form, people

666
00:31:04,373 --> 00:31:07,773
Speaker 12: would say, are you any relation to that camp David,

667
00:31:07,813 --> 00:31:11,573
Speaker 12: the religious cult from North Canterbury from the back from

668
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:15,133
Speaker 12: the eighties, So a lesson there, just yeah, use your

669
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,893
Speaker 12: brain and some research.

670
00:31:17,613 --> 00:31:20,893
Speaker 2: Google search, do it for Google. How much is how

671
00:31:20,973 --> 00:31:23,613
Speaker 2: much is a bachelor's handbag? Are you selling baches bachelor's

672
00:31:23,613 --> 00:31:25,253
Speaker 2: handbags at your four square?

673
00:31:26,013 --> 00:31:28,013
Speaker 12: I think they are about sixteen bucks and they just

674
00:31:28,093 --> 00:31:29,493
Speaker 12: keep going, just keep going.

675
00:31:29,733 --> 00:31:33,533
Speaker 2: Bachelor's hand the pre cooked checking it's the best food,

676
00:31:33,693 --> 00:31:37,653
Speaker 2: the food of summer and coultsla and rolls, Yeah, Bachelor's

677
00:31:37,653 --> 00:31:38,893
Speaker 2: Hamburg Coultre and rolls.

678
00:31:39,013 --> 00:31:42,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's that's the go to. Yeah. And

679
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:44,373
Speaker 3: how's Diamond Harbor looking over summer? Is it going to

680
00:31:44,373 --> 00:31:45,933
Speaker 3: be Choco block love Diamond Harbor?

681
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,693
Speaker 12: It's beautiful every day? Yeah, every day.

682
00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:49,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a lucky man.

683
00:31:49,813 --> 00:31:53,733
Speaker 2: We'll nip into the full square for a bachelor's handbag.

684
00:31:54,853 --> 00:32:00,093
Speaker 3: Put aside for us James ers mates, we'll get Steven

685
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:03,213
Speaker 3: before we've got to take a break into Steve Hi

686
00:32:03,573 --> 00:32:04,853
Speaker 3: you Yeah, very good.

687
00:32:05,813 --> 00:32:10,333
Speaker 18: Battles of Steve from random coromp stations and Pullman's ballroom

688
00:32:10,413 --> 00:32:12,293
Speaker 18: doorways from above and until so back.

689
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:14,813
Speaker 2: How are you mate?

690
00:32:15,493 --> 00:32:16,133
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm good.

691
00:32:17,093 --> 00:32:19,813
Speaker 18: When I started my video production company in nineteen ninety seven,

692
00:32:19,893 --> 00:32:23,013
Speaker 18: I came up with a completely nerdy name called Electronic

693
00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:27,893
Speaker 18: Media Communications Company, which I shortened to EMC squared, thinking.

694
00:32:27,653 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 19: I was quite clever.

695
00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:29,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is quite clever.

696
00:32:30,893 --> 00:32:33,773
Speaker 18: It is quite clever, until I got a letter from

697
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:38,133
Speaker 18: the big American corporation called EMC squared, right, asking me

698
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:41,813
Speaker 18: not to use that name because our businesses were apparently

699
00:32:42,053 --> 00:32:46,093
Speaker 18: similar because I used hard drives and editing right manufactured

700
00:32:46,093 --> 00:32:46,773
Speaker 18: hard drives.

701
00:32:46,853 --> 00:32:51,653
Speaker 3: So you trademark eindsigns, you know, very famous mathematical equation.

702
00:32:51,773 --> 00:32:52,693
Speaker 3: That seems a bit dirty.

703
00:32:52,773 --> 00:32:55,933
Speaker 18: Well, yeah, that's probably a question for trademark lawyers. Then

704
00:32:56,013 --> 00:32:58,613
Speaker 18: I wasn't prepared to go there, so I just changed it.

705
00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:00,413
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, and that's that's a bit of a

706
00:33:00,573 --> 00:33:03,453
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a stretch because you're not manufacturing

707
00:33:03,493 --> 00:33:05,933
Speaker 2: hard drives. You're just saving some of your videos footage

708
00:33:05,973 --> 00:33:11,973
Speaker 2: onto hard drives. You're using them exactly. But to argue, no,

709
00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:14,373
Speaker 2: and what did you change the name of e MC squared.

710
00:33:14,413 --> 00:33:22,013
Speaker 2: Two Steve films synergy Synergy for last Yeah, synergy.

711
00:33:22,093 --> 00:33:23,013
Speaker 3: Yeah.

712
00:33:23,413 --> 00:33:25,533
Speaker 18: It's all about teamwork with clients.

713
00:33:25,773 --> 00:33:29,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's a nice name actually, but yeah,

714
00:33:29,213 --> 00:33:32,293
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta yeah, I mean EMC squad is

715
00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:33,613
Speaker 2: a good, good one as well. But I think you're

716
00:33:33,613 --> 00:33:35,733
Speaker 2: actually doing better with Synergy Films. It actually sort of

717
00:33:35,813 --> 00:33:37,213
Speaker 2: describes what you're doing a little bit more.

718
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Speaker 8: Yes, So thanks. Then I promised I would fall.

719
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Speaker 18: In at some point, So.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. You're a man of your words, Steve,

721
00:33:45,653 --> 00:33:47,173
Speaker 2: And it was not. It was lovely to meet.

722
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Speaker 3: You you too, mate, Thank you, Steve, one hundred eighty

723
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Speaker 3: ten eighty. Love to hear your business name. And if

724
00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:55,853
Speaker 3: you have had to change your business name, why there

725
00:33:55,853 --> 00:33:57,533
Speaker 3: will be a lot of people out there that thought

726
00:33:57,653 --> 00:34:00,733
Speaker 3: they were being they had the perfect brand name and

727
00:34:00,773 --> 00:34:02,533
Speaker 3: then turned out maybe they've got a little bit joking.

728
00:34:02,733 --> 00:34:05,773
Speaker 2: Well, I've I named a business and new business last

729
00:34:05,853 --> 00:34:09,332
Speaker 2: year and I'll share the name of it after in

730
00:34:09,373 --> 00:34:11,573
Speaker 2: just a few minutes. All right, it's gonna be well

731
00:34:11,573 --> 00:34:11,933
Speaker 2: worth it.

732
00:34:12,053 --> 00:34:13,013
Speaker 3: This is gonna be good.

733
00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:15,812
Speaker 2: Maybe you can guess what it is. On nineteen nineteens.

734
00:34:15,293 --> 00:34:22,093
Speaker 3: It is eleven minutes to two back in the mom.

735
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Speaker 1: Mad Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight and

736
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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks'd be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It is eight to two.

738
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Speaker 2: And my exciting tease was I incorporated a company just

739
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,732
Speaker 2: about a year ago. And the exciting name I gave it. Yeah,

740
00:34:39,893 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 2: you'll hear it.

741
00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:42,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just gonna well, it's going to be good, good,

742
00:34:42,973 --> 00:34:43,413
Speaker 3: it's going to do.

743
00:34:43,453 --> 00:34:45,692
Speaker 2: This is huge, this is clever, it's going to be good.

744
00:34:46,053 --> 00:34:46,933
Speaker 2: Describes what it is.

745
00:34:47,133 --> 00:34:48,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, okay, here we.

746
00:34:48,613 --> 00:34:54,373
Speaker 2: Go mad Heath Limited. I thought, how did you come

747
00:34:54,453 --> 00:34:57,893
Speaker 2: up with that? It's my company, it's my name, mad

748
00:34:57,933 --> 00:34:58,613
Speaker 2: Heath Limited.

749
00:34:58,813 --> 00:35:00,893
Speaker 3: You know what you're getting. You know what you're getting,

750
00:35:01,253 --> 00:35:01,652
Speaker 3: old man.

751
00:35:01,773 --> 00:35:04,213
Speaker 2: Actually I'm undernard over that for quite some time.

752
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:06,933
Speaker 3: Now, you this afternoon.

753
00:35:07,693 --> 00:35:10,533
Speaker 20: I I hate good good. Hey, Charlie, you won't remember

754
00:35:11,093 --> 00:35:13,853
Speaker 20: the name of this company that came up in the

755
00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:17,013
Speaker 20: New a few years going christ Hit and it was

756
00:35:18,013 --> 00:35:20,853
Speaker 20: a lady head of business about sunglasses and it was

757
00:35:20,853 --> 00:35:22,413
Speaker 20: called happy to Sit on your Face.

758
00:35:25,613 --> 00:35:26,813
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, that's right.

759
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:30,733
Speaker 2: I'm going to risk gurgling that on the work gurgle

760
00:35:31,293 --> 00:35:36,373
Speaker 2: and see if they're still going here we go great. Yeah, yeah,

761
00:35:36,733 --> 00:35:38,373
Speaker 2: it's got some great sunglasses here.

762
00:35:38,453 --> 00:35:38,652
Speaker 4: Yeah.

763
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Speaker 20: People complained about it. They didn't like it. They thought

764
00:35:42,013 --> 00:35:48,773
Speaker 20: it was too you know. Yeah, but she she she

765
00:35:48,853 --> 00:35:51,813
Speaker 20: put it on and she won and they know she

766
00:35:51,813 --> 00:35:55,333
Speaker 20: didn't get stopped for using it, so it was business.

767
00:35:55,453 --> 00:35:57,212
Speaker 2: These are some cool sunnies right here.

768
00:35:57,893 --> 00:36:04,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah here. But she's still going, yeah, happy to

769
00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:05,333
Speaker 20: sit on your phone.

770
00:36:06,133 --> 00:36:11,652
Speaker 2: The discernment olive sunglasses of very stylist. So she's got a.

771
00:36:10,813 --> 00:36:14,333
Speaker 3: Look at the risk paid off obviously Liberty Noir.

772
00:36:15,053 --> 00:36:16,973
Speaker 2: I'd read the Liberty Noir, you know, and I'm going

773
00:36:17,013 --> 00:36:17,373
Speaker 2: to order.

774
00:36:17,293 --> 00:36:17,653
Speaker 21: A pair of that.

775
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:18,333
Speaker 20: Yeah.

776
00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,973
Speaker 3: But she got here from memory jam was she set

777
00:36:22,053 --> 00:36:24,013
Speaker 3: up in a wi She had a kind of a

778
00:36:24,053 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 3: weak kiosk at maybe the art gallery or something. And

779
00:36:26,373 --> 00:36:28,693
Speaker 3: that's what people were a bit upset about because she

780
00:36:28,773 --> 00:36:31,493
Speaker 3: was out in public that they thought that's a bit much.

781
00:36:32,493 --> 00:36:32,692
Speaker 18: Yeah.

782
00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,652
Speaker 20: Yeah, And she was really out there, like with her

783
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,013
Speaker 20: advertising and everything, and that's sort of that's when it

784
00:36:38,013 --> 00:36:40,333
Speaker 20: blew out to the public. I actually knew her. I

785
00:36:40,373 --> 00:36:43,373
Speaker 20: think she came from Sumner but and she's quite a

786
00:36:43,413 --> 00:36:45,732
Speaker 20: riskue for the lady she's I mean, she suits her

787
00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:50,212
Speaker 20: business name right, and but yeah, she thought to keep

788
00:36:50,253 --> 00:36:51,093
Speaker 20: her and she kept it.

789
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:57,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long business name, it's a six D name.

790
00:36:57,333 --> 00:37:00,652
Speaker 7: And I thought ted and I thought, oh, when I

791
00:37:00,693 --> 00:37:03,133
Speaker 7: hear you talking about it, and I thought, hopefully no

792
00:37:03,173 --> 00:37:05,893
Speaker 7: one had mentioned it, but anyway they would have bring

793
00:37:06,013 --> 00:37:08,253
Speaker 7: me to start with. But I thought that was quite

794
00:37:08,453 --> 00:37:08,773
Speaker 7: with me.

795
00:37:09,573 --> 00:37:12,453
Speaker 2: Jan thank you for your call. And look classy name

796
00:37:12,533 --> 00:37:15,013
Speaker 2: and classy specs as well. I'm just looking through here.

797
00:37:15,093 --> 00:37:18,533
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the Yeah, dolls have eyes glasses.

798
00:37:18,973 --> 00:37:21,413
Speaker 2: I'd we a Liberty Cognac.

799
00:37:22,693 --> 00:37:24,773
Speaker 3: Glasses. Yeah, yes, But what do you say when you

800
00:37:24,773 --> 00:37:26,573
Speaker 3: buy a set of those glasses and say where'd you

801
00:37:26,573 --> 00:37:28,293
Speaker 3: get your glasses from? And you say happy to sign

802
00:37:28,373 --> 00:37:28,733
Speaker 3: your face?

803
00:37:28,973 --> 00:37:32,333
Speaker 2: Yeah? And when they say where did they say? Yeah, sure,

804
00:37:32,933 --> 00:37:34,093
Speaker 2: where did you get your glasses from?

805
00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:37,253
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going to

806
00:37:37,253 --> 00:37:41,413
Speaker 3: carry this on after two o'clock. A couple of texts

807
00:37:41,453 --> 00:37:45,293
Speaker 3: in the meantime, ghetto guys, we are called your Daily Grind.

808
00:37:45,373 --> 00:37:49,093
Speaker 3: We are drive through a coffee trailer in Auckland. People

809
00:37:49,213 --> 00:37:51,573
Speaker 3: love the name. That's a great name. And this one

810
00:37:51,613 --> 00:37:53,893
Speaker 3: get a guy's successful building company in the UK called

811
00:37:54,013 --> 00:37:57,933
Speaker 3: Bodge and Scraper from Mary. Yeah, I love that. Oh

812
00:37:57,973 --> 00:37:59,413
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eight.

813
00:37:59,373 --> 00:38:00,613
Speaker 2: Bodget and Scarper.

814
00:38:01,173 --> 00:38:02,172
Speaker 3: Okay, that's even better.

815
00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:03,973
Speaker 2: Budget and scar I don't think i'd get a company

816
00:38:03,973 --> 00:38:05,493
Speaker 2: called Budget and Scarper to deal with.

817
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:08,973
Speaker 3: What about this one? I call my company upset as

818
00:38:08,973 --> 00:38:11,973
Speaker 3: I sow home decor Vibe trade me. But I'm not

819
00:38:12,053 --> 00:38:18,653
Speaker 3: GST registered. Upsy Daisy. Okay, that's say confession time.

820
00:38:18,533 --> 00:38:20,093
Speaker 2: And you're good to know you're not GST register.

821
00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:22,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll keep you anonymous. Okay, right, we're

822
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:25,813
Speaker 3: gonna pick this back cup. Quick update on the cricket.

823
00:38:25,853 --> 00:38:28,533
Speaker 3: I just think they've got another wicket mare. I think yeah,

824
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:29,053
Speaker 3: it was there.

825
00:38:29,173 --> 00:38:32,853
Speaker 2: They just bowled Pope and he attempted a humiliating ramp

826
00:38:32,893 --> 00:38:36,732
Speaker 2: shot and then met Henry took out his off stump.

827
00:38:36,493 --> 00:38:40,493
Speaker 3: You beauty two hundred and fifteen for six New Sport

828
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Speaker 3: and Weather on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

829
00:38:43,413 --> 00:39:00,853
Speaker 22: Very very good afternoon to you.

830
00:39:02,653 --> 00:39:13,413
Speaker 23: To close, we can love of things that we know.

831
00:39:15,973 --> 00:39:19,613
Speaker 23: We can go forever till you at sit it.

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Speaker 4: Out talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty

834
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Speaker 1: twenty four News Talk.

835
00:39:29,013 --> 00:39:34,333
Speaker 3: Zibby God afternoons seven past two and just a reminder

836
00:39:34,453 --> 00:39:35,933
Speaker 3: after three o'clock.

837
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Speaker 2: We can tell you our great New Zealanders of Christmas series.

838
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:42,973
Speaker 2: We had dieing with yesterday and today we have Nadia Lynn.

839
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:46,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic New Zealander Nadia. Looking forward to that and

840
00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:49,573
Speaker 3: a reminder. We're also giving away two copies of a

841
00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:52,533
Speaker 3: life list punishing every day including today, so that will

842
00:39:52,573 --> 00:39:54,373
Speaker 3: be at the end of the show, Thirteen Ways to

843
00:39:54,373 --> 00:39:57,413
Speaker 3: Love the Life You've Got by one Matt Heath, which

844
00:39:57,453 --> 00:39:58,692
Speaker 3: is a great Christmas gift.

845
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Speaker 2: Is that the number one best selling book?

846
00:40:00,373 --> 00:40:01,933
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what it sees here right at the

847
00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:04,333
Speaker 3: top of the box. Looking forward to giving that away.

848
00:40:04,653 --> 00:40:07,013
Speaker 3: It's good before we wrap up. It is good before

849
00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:09,213
Speaker 3: we wrap up at four o'clock. But right now we

850
00:40:09,293 --> 00:40:12,773
Speaker 3: have been chatting about a name change for SPQR and

851
00:40:12,933 --> 00:40:14,733
Speaker 3: Ponts and b oh.

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00:40:14,853 --> 00:40:18,773
Speaker 2: Another wicket went down, so it's eight down. So I

853
00:40:18,813 --> 00:40:20,453
Speaker 2: mean they're just going to give up now, the English,

854
00:40:20,453 --> 00:40:22,813
Speaker 2: aren't they Sorry to interrupt you there, Tyler, that's all right.

855
00:40:22,893 --> 00:40:26,413
Speaker 2: So they've got Ben Stokes and Baser to come out now,

856
00:40:26,893 --> 00:40:29,613
Speaker 2: and why would England continue betting? Like Ben Stokes he's

857
00:40:29,613 --> 00:40:31,373
Speaker 2: slightly and jed he's not going to care. They just

858
00:40:31,373 --> 00:40:32,853
Speaker 2: want to get to the wine. They want to go

859
00:40:32,893 --> 00:40:36,973
Speaker 2: and play golf. They can't win the series. It's into

860
00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:40,053
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, so that game, that that cricket match

861
00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:43,133
Speaker 2: is going to be over in Hamilton very very soon. Anyway,

862
00:40:43,293 --> 00:40:46,453
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you, Tyler goodbeite, Buddy good Buddy, go go, go,

863
00:40:46,453 --> 00:40:46,693
Speaker 2: go go.

864
00:40:46,933 --> 00:40:50,693
Speaker 3: We are chatting about brand names or company names. This

865
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Speaker 3: is on the back of course of s p q

866
00:40:52,773 --> 00:40:55,293
Speaker 3: R and pons and Be, a very well known restaurant

867
00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:58,533
Speaker 3: and bar in Auckland. It was purchased by new owners,

868
00:40:58,573 --> 00:41:01,693
Speaker 3: sisters Bromwin and Jessica Pain and they have now changed

869
00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:03,652
Speaker 3: the name too. Do we want a drum roll for this?

870
00:41:05,853 --> 00:41:10,733
Speaker 2: Juckuzair as in the sapa pou so the jacuzzi. The

871
00:41:10,773 --> 00:41:13,493
Speaker 2: sparpa was invented by the Jacuzi brothers, wasn't it, And

872
00:41:13,493 --> 00:41:15,053
Speaker 2: then that was why it was called a jacuzzi. Is

873
00:41:15,053 --> 00:41:17,053
Speaker 2: that right? I think that's why. I think that's why

874
00:41:17,053 --> 00:41:20,613
Speaker 2: sparpas are sometimes called jiacozzis. But that doesn't seem like

875
00:41:20,613 --> 00:41:22,893
Speaker 2: a great name. But I feel bad saying this because

876
00:41:22,933 --> 00:41:25,213
Speaker 2: I you know, HOSPO is the best of us. They

877
00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:28,573
Speaker 2: build things, they employ people. We've got to support our

878
00:41:28,613 --> 00:41:30,573
Speaker 2: HOSPO in this country. We've got to get out spend

879
00:41:30,653 --> 00:41:35,333
Speaker 2: time with people. But and I wish them all the best. Yes, Jacuzzi.

880
00:41:35,773 --> 00:41:38,333
Speaker 2: But when I heard that the name of this famous

881
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:41,413
Speaker 2: Auckland establishment s PQR was now going to be Jacuzzi,

882
00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:42,853
Speaker 2: I thought, bad name.

883
00:41:43,173 --> 00:41:46,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bold move unless you've got Jacuzzis inside

884
00:41:46,493 --> 00:41:47,413
Speaker 3: and you've just moved.

885
00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:51,173
Speaker 2: Up from Canterbury of course, Tyler. And are you thinking

886
00:41:51,253 --> 00:41:55,493
Speaker 2: when like Alfrisco dining and summer dining at a place

887
00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:57,453
Speaker 2: called Jacuzzi, it seems warm?

888
00:41:57,653 --> 00:41:59,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it is very warm up here. I mean

889
00:41:59,773 --> 00:42:01,813
Speaker 3: maybe I was in the French Alps and it was

890
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:05,293
Speaker 3: a nice ski shell as Chaguzi sounds very nice. But

891
00:42:05,573 --> 00:42:10,453
Speaker 3: we've had some great tics come through on serious business names.

892
00:42:10,853 --> 00:42:14,213
Speaker 3: This one, guys, my little landscaping business in oh Man.

893
00:42:14,253 --> 00:42:16,692
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch that just came through, and Tartanaki

894
00:42:16,853 --> 00:42:20,213
Speaker 3: is called my Escape Solutions. However, fifty percent of my

895
00:42:20,253 --> 00:42:23,732
Speaker 3: client's informing that they misread the name to Manscape Solutions,

896
00:42:23,973 --> 00:42:26,652
Speaker 3: which will be a very very different industry. Still trying

897
00:42:26,653 --> 00:42:28,813
Speaker 3: to figure out if this is a good thing or not. Cheers,

898
00:42:28,813 --> 00:42:30,453
Speaker 3: guys will love your show from Killian.

899
00:42:30,653 --> 00:42:33,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Manscape solutions that could be another company.

900
00:42:33,373 --> 00:42:34,373
Speaker 2: Why don't you do both?

901
00:42:34,453 --> 00:42:35,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a wee side hustle.

902
00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:38,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do landscape and your manscape? Yeah, I mean,

903
00:42:38,933 --> 00:42:40,693
Speaker 2: is there a lot of there's a lot of business

904
00:42:40,733 --> 00:42:43,293
Speaker 2: for man there's anyone, I do know. There's a whole

905
00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,172
Speaker 2: different question. But does anyone out there go out and

906
00:42:45,213 --> 00:42:49,213
Speaker 2: get manscaped by a professional? I know that I know

907
00:42:49,253 --> 00:42:51,573
Speaker 2: that ladies go and get that kind of stuff done,

908
00:42:51,653 --> 00:42:53,453
Speaker 2: But are there any dudes out there that do that?

909
00:42:53,493 --> 00:42:55,333
Speaker 3: You've never thought about it, You never looked at it

910
00:42:55,373 --> 00:42:56,453
Speaker 3: and thinking maybe like.

911
00:42:56,493 --> 00:42:58,853
Speaker 2: I am master of my own domain. But it's anyway,

912
00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:02,813
Speaker 2: have you It's hard to pick a business name, isn't it?

913
00:43:02,813 --> 00:43:03,053
Speaker 12: It is?

914
00:43:03,093 --> 00:43:06,373
Speaker 2: And it's important, and you have your company and you

915
00:43:06,493 --> 00:43:08,373
Speaker 2: started and you want it to work, and there's a

916
00:43:08,373 --> 00:43:10,333
Speaker 2: lot of pressure to get the name right. And if

917
00:43:10,373 --> 00:43:12,973
Speaker 2: the company's not going wrong, do you start thinking that

918
00:43:13,053 --> 00:43:14,613
Speaker 2: it's the name that there's a problem. Would like to

919
00:43:14,653 --> 00:43:16,293
Speaker 2: hear from people in our eight hundred and eighty ten

920
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,293
Speaker 2: eighty if you've got the name wrong and had to

921
00:43:18,413 --> 00:43:21,053
Speaker 2: change it, or you've got it right and you're proud

922
00:43:21,213 --> 00:43:22,853
Speaker 2: and you think that the name of your company is

923
00:43:22,853 --> 00:43:26,613
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why it's succeeding. And if you've

924
00:43:26,613 --> 00:43:28,413
Speaker 2: just got a brilliant name for your company, then I

925
00:43:28,413 --> 00:43:30,493
Speaker 2: guess we're willing to just give you a free plug.

926
00:43:30,573 --> 00:43:32,652
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now is the time. It's Christmas, so on one

927
00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:35,053
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Glenn.

928
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:36,413
Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon?

929
00:43:37,013 --> 00:43:37,573
Speaker 19: How are you boys?

930
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:37,893
Speaker 8: All right?

931
00:43:38,013 --> 00:43:38,212
Speaker 3: Yeah?

932
00:43:38,253 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 4: Good?

933
00:43:38,573 --> 00:43:39,493
Speaker 3: What's your business name?

934
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:44,933
Speaker 19: So twenty nearly twenty five years ago, I started up

935
00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:49,813
Speaker 19: a decorating business and the driving micropolis of Kapoki, and

936
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:58,292
Speaker 19: it was Glenn Phillips Wallpapering. Just sort of yeah, morched along,

937
00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:00,413
Speaker 19: morched along. Theyre doing not really good at all, And

938
00:44:00,453 --> 00:44:03,493
Speaker 19: I was trying to figure out a way to boost

939
00:44:03,493 --> 00:44:06,293
Speaker 19: things along a bit and jokingly come up with the

940
00:44:06,373 --> 00:44:07,893
Speaker 19: name well Hung Wallpaper.

941
00:44:07,453 --> 00:44:10,453
Speaker 2: Services, Well hung okay, yeah as a.

942
00:44:10,493 --> 00:44:12,333
Speaker 19: Doke and talked to a few people about it and

943
00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:14,093
Speaker 19: they said, yeah, you should just run run with that,

944
00:44:14,573 --> 00:44:17,813
Speaker 19: and I did, called it Well Hung wall Paper Services,

945
00:44:17,853 --> 00:44:20,573
Speaker 19: and we're all over the side of the van, and

946
00:44:21,973 --> 00:44:24,093
Speaker 19: a few years later moved down to christ But since

947
00:44:24,213 --> 00:44:27,493
Speaker 19: changing the name of just ye transformed the company overnight.

948
00:44:27,933 --> 00:44:30,533
Speaker 2: So so Glenn Phillips was going okay, but well hung

949
00:44:30,893 --> 00:44:35,573
Speaker 2: just went gangbusters. Yeah, yes, and you credit that you

950
00:44:35,613 --> 00:44:37,573
Speaker 2: didn't change anything else in the business. It just got

951
00:44:37,613 --> 00:44:38,173
Speaker 2: a dungeon.

952
00:44:38,813 --> 00:44:39,413
Speaker 19: No, just that.

953
00:44:39,693 --> 00:44:40,133
Speaker 12: Yeah.

954
00:44:40,253 --> 00:44:43,133
Speaker 19: People, you sort of used advertising the papers and everywhere,

955
00:44:43,133 --> 00:44:45,333
Speaker 19: and it was just another head like everyone else. But

956
00:44:45,373 --> 00:44:47,893
Speaker 19: as soon as someone read that that's quite funny, we're

957
00:44:47,893 --> 00:44:48,652
Speaker 19: better get hold of them.

958
00:44:48,813 --> 00:44:50,693
Speaker 2: And is it accurate personally?

959
00:44:51,373 --> 00:44:54,172
Speaker 19: Oh, false advertising of course.

960
00:44:54,213 --> 00:44:56,933
Speaker 2: Now, Glenn Phillips wallpaping would sound like it was something

961
00:44:56,973 --> 00:44:58,813
Speaker 2: to do with the you know, the black cap.

962
00:44:58,893 --> 00:44:59,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, cricketer.

963
00:44:59,893 --> 00:45:04,933
Speaker 2: Yeah and so and well hung wall paping still going strong.

964
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:08,413
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're down here in christ just now and yeah.

965
00:45:08,733 --> 00:45:10,652
Speaker 3: Had to can't teach out about it. They still like

966
00:45:10,653 --> 00:45:13,573
Speaker 3: the well hung yea yeah, yeah, yeah, good people.

967
00:45:13,373 --> 00:45:16,573
Speaker 19: Down there, and yeah it goes well.

968
00:45:16,613 --> 00:45:18,692
Speaker 2: Well, good on you look him up if you need

969
00:45:18,773 --> 00:45:24,053
Speaker 2: some wallpaper hung by a well hung hallpaper.

970
00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:26,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, Glenn Phillips as well. Great name. Oh eight hundred

971
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:29,013
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, love to

972
00:45:29,013 --> 00:45:31,813
Speaker 3: hear from you. It is thirteen past.

973
00:45:31,493 --> 00:45:38,173
Speaker 1: Two, your new home of Afternoon Talk Taylor Adams Afternoon

974
00:45:38,413 --> 00:45:41,213
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

975
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:45,652
Speaker 3: ZB News TALKSZB Well and Update on the cricket.

976
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:47,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is all over. Ben Stokes is going to

977
00:45:47,493 --> 00:45:50,853
Speaker 2: bat New Zealand win by I believe four hundred and

978
00:45:50,853 --> 00:45:55,293
Speaker 2: twenty four runs. And that's all all she wrote for

979
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:58,613
Speaker 2: Tim Saudi. One hundred and six text matches he's played.

980
00:45:58,733 --> 00:46:01,333
Speaker 2: He got three hundred and eighty nine wickets in his time.

981
00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:04,732
Speaker 2: Absolute great New Zealand servant of the game. And he's

982
00:46:04,773 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 2: currently walking off with the stump for a memorabiliya and

983
00:46:09,853 --> 00:46:13,013
Speaker 2: sad times because he's been in the in the game

984
00:46:13,093 --> 00:46:15,573
Speaker 2: for a very very long time. And actually heard his

985
00:46:15,893 --> 00:46:17,133
Speaker 2: dad talking the other day.

986
00:46:17,253 --> 00:46:18,213
Speaker 3: Have we got that audio.

987
00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:23,773
Speaker 2: We had that audio of Tim Southie's dad talking about

988
00:46:24,413 --> 00:46:26,973
Speaker 2: Tim and he just said, I'm not sure what he's

989
00:46:26,973 --> 00:46:29,293
Speaker 2: going to do after the game. He just really loves

990
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:29,973
Speaker 2: playing cricket.

991
00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:32,533
Speaker 3: Be a proud dad, a proud dad, the sexy camel.

992
00:46:32,653 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 2: And I remember when I first sort of heard of

993
00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:37,172
Speaker 2: Tim Saudi when he was coming through as a young

994
00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:39,733
Speaker 2: lad and they had an interview with him and his

995
00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:41,733
Speaker 2: parents all the way back then, way way back then,

996
00:46:41,733 --> 00:46:44,212
Speaker 2: when he was starting. The guy's been in the team

997
00:46:44,293 --> 00:46:48,133
Speaker 2: his whole life, but half his life, and I were

998
00:46:48,133 --> 00:46:49,893
Speaker 2: talking to his dad and his mum, and she was

999
00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:52,133
Speaker 2: just saying all he did when they were growing up

1000
00:46:52,213 --> 00:46:54,133
Speaker 2: is he'd have one stump in the backyard and he

1001
00:46:54,173 --> 00:46:56,212
Speaker 2: would just bowl at it over and over and over

1002
00:46:56,253 --> 00:46:58,893
Speaker 2: and over and over and over again. And you know

1003
00:46:58,933 --> 00:46:59,853
Speaker 2: that's how he got so good.

1004
00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:00,813
Speaker 3: I look at him now.

1005
00:47:00,973 --> 00:47:04,173
Speaker 2: But hell of a career. And New Zealand prevent the

1006
00:47:04,173 --> 00:47:07,613
Speaker 2: whitewash against England and there go. They're all off, probably

1007
00:47:07,613 --> 00:47:09,973
Speaker 2: to have quite a few drink agin both things because

1008
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:12,533
Speaker 2: that's the end of the season for them.

1009
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:15,933
Speaker 3: World done, boys, fantastic. Right back to the topic at hand.

1010
00:47:15,973 --> 00:47:18,813
Speaker 3: We have been talking about your business names. On the

1011
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:23,252
Speaker 3: back of sbq R changing their name to Jacuzzi, which

1012
00:47:23,293 --> 00:47:25,493
Speaker 3: is a bit of a bold move for some people,

1013
00:47:25,533 --> 00:47:29,413
Speaker 3: but having plenty of great texts coming through about various

1014
00:47:29,453 --> 00:47:34,373
Speaker 3: business names, this one. Gooday, guys, I just bloody lost it.

1015
00:47:35,693 --> 00:47:37,212
Speaker 3: I'll get back to it when I there's so many

1016
00:47:37,253 --> 00:47:39,333
Speaker 3: texts that'll just come through. I'll get back to that

1017
00:47:39,453 --> 00:47:41,253
Speaker 3: very shortly. Let's go to Glenn. In the meantime, get

1018
00:47:41,253 --> 00:47:41,693
Speaker 3: a Glenn.

1019
00:47:42,573 --> 00:47:44,212
Speaker 24: It's good afternoon, and gentlemen, how we all?

1020
00:47:44,333 --> 00:47:44,573
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1021
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:45,692
Speaker 3: Good? What's your company name?

1022
00:47:46,373 --> 00:47:46,533
Speaker 16: Well?

1023
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 24: I started a business over in the beautiful wayaky. I

1024
00:47:49,053 --> 00:47:54,173
Speaker 24: live over here now, and I've got a major monopoly

1025
00:47:54,213 --> 00:47:56,893
Speaker 24: company over here that I wanted to punch against, and

1026
00:47:57,213 --> 00:47:59,853
Speaker 24: I wanted to bring standards, hardware and fixings to the

1027
00:47:59,853 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 24: island and supply the builders directly, and so I called

1028
00:48:03,013 --> 00:48:05,853
Speaker 24: it screw it Fastenings, screw.

1029
00:48:05,613 --> 00:48:07,413
Speaker 3: It fast fast names.

1030
00:48:07,533 --> 00:48:07,732
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1031
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 2: And have you been successful?

1032
00:48:12,253 --> 00:48:16,013
Speaker 24: Very successful, because generally what people do is when they

1033
00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:18,133
Speaker 24: go to the other monopoly and they give them a

1034
00:48:18,173 --> 00:48:20,493
Speaker 24: price to go screw it, I'll go to screw it.

1035
00:48:21,413 --> 00:48:22,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

1036
00:48:22,613 --> 00:48:25,813
Speaker 2: And the same question I asked Glenn Philip from where

1037
00:48:26,013 --> 00:48:29,613
Speaker 2: Hope from well hung the Hall papers. Do you think

1038
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:31,172
Speaker 2: do you think that the name has been a big

1039
00:48:31,213 --> 00:48:32,373
Speaker 2: part of your success?

1040
00:48:33,213 --> 00:48:33,373
Speaker 12: Oh?

1041
00:48:33,613 --> 00:48:34,053
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1042
00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:36,453
Speaker 24: And you know, you've got to have a point of difference.

1043
00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:39,213
Speaker 24: I mean, there's another fantastic gentleman over here called the

1044
00:48:39,253 --> 00:48:41,973
Speaker 24: Mad Butcher, of course, and I always took part of

1045
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:45,093
Speaker 24: what he did with that man Butcher, and I thought,

1046
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:47,573
Speaker 24: you know, that's that's the You've got to have something

1047
00:48:47,613 --> 00:48:50,013
Speaker 24: that stands out as a name. I've got to written

1048
00:48:50,013 --> 00:48:53,333
Speaker 24: on over my van and I get people yelling out

1049
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:56,733
Speaker 24: to me all the time, and it's a point of difference.

1050
00:48:56,853 --> 00:48:58,893
Speaker 24: You've got to get that punch and point of difference.

1051
00:48:58,973 --> 00:49:02,813
Speaker 24: There is one little bad thing will not bad actually,

1052
00:49:02,813 --> 00:49:05,933
Speaker 24: But one of the things that came from it was

1053
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:09,093
Speaker 24: it was actually my birthday very recently, and grandson got

1054
00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:11,173
Speaker 24: up a little speech. He only was only eight at

1055
00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:14,093
Speaker 24: the time, but he said, told everybody that I was

1056
00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:15,453
Speaker 24: the best screw it man on the.

1057
00:49:15,413 --> 00:49:20,652
Speaker 3: Island getting around.

1058
00:49:21,453 --> 00:49:22,853
Speaker 24: If it went wrong, I was going to call it

1059
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:23,373
Speaker 24: screw up.

1060
00:49:24,813 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you called screw it, you've got

1061
00:49:26,453 --> 00:49:28,253
Speaker 2: to get it right as well. So you know, get

1062
00:49:28,253 --> 00:49:30,732
Speaker 2: people in with with the name they're interested, and then

1063
00:49:31,013 --> 00:49:33,453
Speaker 2: good service and word of mouth, especially over there.

1064
00:49:33,493 --> 00:49:37,652
Speaker 24: Right, it's a beautiful community over here, and we want

1065
00:49:37,973 --> 00:49:40,573
Speaker 24: to give them a very best service you can. And

1066
00:49:40,653 --> 00:49:42,652
Speaker 24: you know, some of these big corporates come here and

1067
00:49:43,053 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 24: or have been here and they just take everybody for granted.

1068
00:49:45,413 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 24: And I wanted to. I want to give some excellent

1069
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:51,533
Speaker 24: service and provide provide something on the way. So that's

1070
00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:52,013
Speaker 24: what I've done.

1071
00:49:52,133 --> 00:49:54,493
Speaker 3: Good man, Good on you, Glenn, well done. Screw it

1072
00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:57,573
Speaker 3: all right, Thank you mate, Cheers. Look them up, Tony.

1073
00:49:57,653 --> 00:49:59,933
Speaker 21: How are you Yeah, I'm good.

1074
00:49:59,973 --> 00:50:00,652
Speaker 25: How are you doing?

1075
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1076
00:50:01,613 --> 00:50:01,813
Speaker 3: Good?

1077
00:50:01,853 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 8: Good?

1078
00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:03,333
Speaker 3: What's your company? Name.

1079
00:50:04,373 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 25: Yeah, look at our company names Benn Tour and we're

1080
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:10,613
Speaker 25: a little New Zealand company. We liked the little guy

1081
00:50:10,733 --> 00:50:18,253
Speaker 25: that's that's fighting against the big mono, monopolistic international company

1082
00:50:18,293 --> 00:50:22,933
Speaker 25: that we're from in the cargo and we manufacture quality

1083
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:27,533
Speaker 25: ventilation and atrustic lovers, their mechanical lovers, the big buildings, right,

1084
00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:32,453
Speaker 25: data centers and stuff. And we decided to call it Ventur,

1085
00:50:32,533 --> 00:50:35,853
Speaker 25: which is Latin for air protect. But the funny thing

1086
00:50:35,973 --> 00:50:38,813
Speaker 25: is is all the professionals that we deal with, architects

1087
00:50:38,813 --> 00:50:42,413
Speaker 25: and mechanical and fire engineers, et cetera, many of them

1088
00:50:42,453 --> 00:50:45,053
Speaker 25: often say, we always thought that you were from Germany,

1089
00:50:45,133 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 25: so we didn't want to deal with you. We have

1090
00:50:50,613 --> 00:50:53,333
Speaker 25: to explain it upfront, and it is a good point

1091
00:50:53,373 --> 00:50:55,693
Speaker 25: of difference. But sometimes you just got to do a

1092
00:50:55,693 --> 00:50:56,733
Speaker 25: little bit of explaining.

1093
00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:59,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so even when you found out that there

1094
00:50:59,693 --> 00:51:01,373
Speaker 2: was a little bit of explaining to do, you didn't think,

1095
00:51:01,373 --> 00:51:03,653
Speaker 2: I'm we're going to change the name of our company.

1096
00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:05,333
Speaker 2: You're happy with it. You think it's working.

1097
00:51:06,773 --> 00:51:07,493
Speaker 15: Absolutely.

1098
00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:11,533
Speaker 25: I mean, you know, we have very very loyal professionals

1099
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:13,693
Speaker 25: out there in the marketplace who make very high quality

1100
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:16,573
Speaker 25: product and when they find out that all the profits

1101
00:51:16,613 --> 00:51:19,493
Speaker 25: stay in New Zealand and we use New Zealand aluminium

1102
00:51:19,533 --> 00:51:21,453
Speaker 25: and all those sorts of things. They suddenly that they

1103
00:51:21,493 --> 00:51:22,293
Speaker 25: clicked to it, you know.

1104
00:51:22,453 --> 00:51:23,853
Speaker 15: But yeah, just.

1105
00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:27,133
Speaker 25: Because it's a it's a sort of foreign name. Yeah,

1106
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:30,973
Speaker 25: it's probably had some negative effect over the years, but

1107
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:33,893
Speaker 25: now it's turning it into a positive once once they understand.

1108
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:36,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, the Germans don't have the worst

1109
00:51:36,013 --> 00:51:39,053
Speaker 2: reputation in terms of products, do they efficient, So you

1110
00:51:39,093 --> 00:51:41,013
Speaker 2: know the fact that they thought it was German, they

1111
00:51:41,093 --> 00:51:42,813
Speaker 2: might thought it was high level.

1112
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:45,533
Speaker 25: Yeah, high kick and it is high level. But I

1113
00:51:45,533 --> 00:51:47,773
Speaker 25: guess we're all trying to protect the loyalty of New

1114
00:51:47,853 --> 00:51:48,933
Speaker 25: Zealand businesses, aren't we.

1115
00:51:49,493 --> 00:51:53,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, house of the cargo today, Tony, I'm not.

1116
00:51:53,493 --> 00:51:56,253
Speaker 25: I'm actually from our Silverdale Unment office and down in

1117
00:51:56,333 --> 00:51:59,293
Speaker 25: the the cargo. I understand it was nudging into pretty

1118
00:51:59,333 --> 00:52:03,293
Speaker 25: high temperatures the other day. So the heat heat seems

1119
00:52:03,293 --> 00:52:04,213
Speaker 25: to hit them first.

1120
00:52:04,453 --> 00:52:05,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly does.

1121
00:52:05,413 --> 00:52:07,333
Speaker 2: So what's the name of the company again, Tony.

1122
00:52:08,013 --> 00:52:12,333
Speaker 15: It's then two of the in t u n look

1123
00:52:12,373 --> 00:52:12,692
Speaker 15: them up.

1124
00:52:13,253 --> 00:52:15,253
Speaker 3: Great stuff, Tony, thank you very much.

1125
00:52:15,613 --> 00:52:19,493
Speaker 2: Hey, Speaking of which Latin words and such, the other day,

1126
00:52:19,533 --> 00:52:21,772
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, where does the word parachute come from?

1127
00:52:21,933 --> 00:52:22,573
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1128
00:52:22,653 --> 00:52:23,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, well i'll tell you in a bit.

1129
00:52:24,013 --> 00:52:25,333
Speaker 3: I feel that this is kind to be good.

1130
00:52:25,813 --> 00:52:27,853
Speaker 2: Just yesterday actually, I was going, what parachute? Where does

1131
00:52:27,853 --> 00:52:29,933
Speaker 2: the word parachute come from? I was watching that movie

1132
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:32,533
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman movie. Have you seen it called carry On?

1133
00:52:32,853 --> 00:52:34,133
Speaker 3: I haven't yet. That's on Netflix.

1134
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:37,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Christmas almost die hard to like movie about

1135
00:52:38,333 --> 00:52:41,373
Speaker 2: the TSA in America. It's a good movie.

1136
00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:43,453
Speaker 3: But anyway, parachute, where does it come from?

1137
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:43,732
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1138
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:47,333
Speaker 3: Coming next, It'll probably underwhelm you when you're here. Twenty

1139
00:52:47,373 --> 00:52:48,413
Speaker 3: three Parts two.

1140
00:52:53,133 --> 00:52:56,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons Call Oh eight hundred eighty

1141
00:52:56,853 --> 00:52:58,733
Speaker 1: ten eighty on yous talk ZEDB.

1142
00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 3: Twenty five past two. Now before the break, you mentioned

1143
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:03,813
Speaker 3: the origin of the word parachute.

1144
00:53:03,893 --> 00:53:04,093
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1145
00:53:04,093 --> 00:53:07,212
Speaker 2: I only mentioned this because it came up in a movie,

1146
00:53:07,213 --> 00:53:08,933
Speaker 2: and I suddenly thought, you know, as you sometimes do,

1147
00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:10,733
Speaker 2: you hear say the word parachute your whole life? You know,

1148
00:53:11,093 --> 00:53:12,573
Speaker 2: where does the word parachute come from?

1149
00:53:12,613 --> 00:53:14,693
Speaker 3: I love doing those deep dives. There's just something that

1150
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:16,573
Speaker 3: gets in your brain and I wonder where they came from.

1151
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:18,013
Speaker 2: And I've got to say when I found out, it

1152
00:53:18,093 --> 00:53:20,373
Speaker 2: was disappointing, and it'll probably disappoint you now if you

1153
00:53:20,453 --> 00:53:25,773
Speaker 2: waited after before. But it's it comes from the Latin

1154
00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:30,692
Speaker 2: root power, meaning against and the French word shoot meaning full,

1155
00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:33,573
Speaker 2: so it just means against four.

1156
00:53:33,653 --> 00:53:37,333
Speaker 3: Thank god it works, doesn't and yeah, very crypto, but

1157
00:53:37,453 --> 00:53:38,893
Speaker 3: it works well.

1158
00:53:38,933 --> 00:53:41,533
Speaker 2: I mean it's a pretty classy name that whover named

1159
00:53:41,573 --> 00:53:42,613
Speaker 2: it back in the day, that's for sure.

1160
00:53:42,653 --> 00:53:45,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, hickeya, Chris, how are you this afternoon?

1161
00:53:46,573 --> 00:53:46,772
Speaker 8: Hey?

1162
00:53:46,893 --> 00:53:48,652
Speaker 16: Good things? Guys? Good, I hope you can hear me

1163
00:53:48,693 --> 00:53:49,453
Speaker 16: okay while I'm.

1164
00:53:49,373 --> 00:53:51,253
Speaker 3: Driving, got you loud and clear?

1165
00:53:53,013 --> 00:53:57,732
Speaker 16: Good, very good. Not such an entertaining story about brand name,

1166
00:53:57,773 --> 00:54:00,813
Speaker 16: but it's it's interesting. And Hi, Matt's good to meet

1167
00:54:00,813 --> 00:54:02,693
Speaker 16: you a couple of weeks ago at the family Christmas party.

1168
00:54:03,253 --> 00:54:05,693
Speaker 2: Good ay, Chris, how are your mate?

1169
00:54:06,173 --> 00:54:06,413
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1170
00:54:06,533 --> 00:54:11,453
Speaker 16: Good good? Yeah, I was listening as delivering and going.

1171
00:54:11,493 --> 00:54:15,773
Speaker 16: You know what, our name, which is kind Faith, kind Faith,

1172
00:54:16,453 --> 00:54:18,773
Speaker 16: came about thanks to just in the art urn.

1173
00:54:18,813 --> 00:54:22,172
Speaker 2: If I'm allowed to say that out loud, might rile

1174
00:54:22,253 --> 00:54:24,413
Speaker 2: up the text machine a little bit here.

1175
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:28,493
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, well with Our business is a commercial sewing

1176
00:54:28,573 --> 00:54:31,893
Speaker 16: and upholstery business in Avondale by old school makers of

1177
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:35,613
Speaker 16: product and COVID killed it, stuff us in our tracks

1178
00:54:35,773 --> 00:54:37,813
Speaker 16: and drank a little bit of whiskey, talked to a

1179
00:54:37,853 --> 00:54:41,373
Speaker 16: mate within the branding game. Realized that be kind, be kind,

1180
00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:45,493
Speaker 16: be kind was becoming a thing, and so we decided

1181
00:54:45,493 --> 00:54:48,812
Speaker 16: to make face mask to keep ourselves in business during

1182
00:54:48,893 --> 00:54:53,493
Speaker 16: COVID times. And Kind Faith was basically be kind face

1183
00:54:53,853 --> 00:54:58,733
Speaker 16: mark and went well. We stayed in business, We created

1184
00:54:58,733 --> 00:55:01,933
Speaker 16: a website, we grew a great community of people that

1185
00:55:02,013 --> 00:55:04,013
Speaker 16: love new Zilla made products. But these days we don't

1186
00:55:04,013 --> 00:55:07,973
Speaker 16: make face Mark, and it's time to maybe change the brand.

1187
00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:10,973
Speaker 16: So we're actually going through that process. Do we start

1188
00:55:11,013 --> 00:55:12,853
Speaker 16: again under a different brand name or do we keep

1189
00:55:12,933 --> 00:55:15,893
Speaker 16: kind Faith? And we sort of yees s buck in

1190
00:55:15,893 --> 00:55:17,293
Speaker 16: the middle, but we are going to launch a new

1191
00:55:17,333 --> 00:55:19,692
Speaker 16: brand in March next year because these days we make

1192
00:55:19,853 --> 00:55:21,613
Speaker 16: products that help people sleep.

1193
00:55:22,013 --> 00:55:26,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well, going back to that Christmas party situation, Chris,

1194
00:55:26,613 --> 00:55:30,613
Speaker 2: we were involved in a secret Santa situation and one

1195
00:55:30,653 --> 00:55:34,933
Speaker 2: of your sleeping masks, your woolen sleeping mask, was one

1196
00:55:34,973 --> 00:55:36,973
Speaker 2: of the secret Sanders. I was trying to run the

1197
00:55:37,013 --> 00:55:39,733
Speaker 2: whole thing so I could get at but but it

1198
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:42,133
Speaker 2: was it was it was stolen off me from a

1199
00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:43,613
Speaker 2: German exchange script student.

1200
00:55:44,413 --> 00:55:45,653
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1201
00:55:45,493 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 16: That went quite well. Here earned ten dollars and he

1202
00:55:47,573 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 16: got a free mark from that first movie. So so

1203
00:55:51,133 --> 00:55:53,493
Speaker 16: thank you for buying a couple of mattes. Actually those

1204
00:55:53,533 --> 00:55:56,013
Speaker 16: were those are the weighted eye marked so the wall

1205
00:55:56,253 --> 00:55:58,653
Speaker 16: sleep masks are a different things these days. Were actually

1206
00:55:58,893 --> 00:56:02,413
Speaker 16: making sort of the very best pillows Doves sleep mask

1207
00:56:02,653 --> 00:56:07,613
Speaker 16: featuring New Zealand's wall. So time to sort of I'm

1208
00:56:07,653 --> 00:56:09,133
Speaker 16: curious to know if you know out there says what

1209
00:56:09,173 --> 00:56:12,973
Speaker 16: a done name kinding space is for Hello.

1210
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:14,813
Speaker 4: Sleep.

1211
00:56:16,413 --> 00:56:17,773
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a there's a sort of a

1212
00:56:17,813 --> 00:56:21,013
Speaker 2: negative residue hanging over from the whole be kind thing

1213
00:56:21,053 --> 00:56:21,933
Speaker 2: in COVID.

1214
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:23,693
Speaker 25: Yeah, a little bit.

1215
00:56:23,733 --> 00:56:25,773
Speaker 16: I've had a few people pick on that once they

1216
00:56:25,813 --> 00:56:27,652
Speaker 16: sort of, you know, learn where it came from. But

1217
00:56:27,693 --> 00:56:30,213
Speaker 16: also it gets in the world of branding and business,

1218
00:56:30,413 --> 00:56:33,333
Speaker 16: you usually try and have a link like you're well

1219
00:56:33,373 --> 00:56:38,493
Speaker 16: hung wallpaper and it Yeah, you know what you're doing,

1220
00:56:38,493 --> 00:56:40,053
Speaker 16: what you're selling. That will save you a bit of

1221
00:56:40,093 --> 00:56:42,493
Speaker 16: time and money and education trying to tell people what

1222
00:56:42,533 --> 00:56:45,813
Speaker 16: you do. So I can I can share now that

1223
00:56:45,813 --> 00:56:49,453
Speaker 16: we're going to launch do not disturb and March, which

1224
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:52,573
Speaker 16: is going to be sleep focused products that are basically

1225
00:56:52,573 --> 00:56:54,573
Speaker 16: the best sleep products in the world. And then we're

1226
00:56:54,573 --> 00:56:56,732
Speaker 16: making the New Zealand from the Well and Well.

1227
00:56:56,853 --> 00:57:01,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, because will is will is a very very sleepy substance.

1228
00:57:02,013 --> 00:57:03,293
Speaker 2: Isn't that it's very good for sleeping?

1229
00:57:04,413 --> 00:57:06,893
Speaker 16: That's honestly so good. And we've we've evolved into this.

1230
00:57:07,013 --> 00:57:09,573
Speaker 16: I'm going of my farming background. We just love making

1231
00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:12,533
Speaker 16: things there in our workroom and Avondale and learn that

1232
00:57:12,613 --> 00:57:15,533
Speaker 16: Will behaves performs better than any of the synthetics that

1233
00:57:15,573 --> 00:57:18,853
Speaker 16: we are making for other customers. And we have good

1234
00:57:18,853 --> 00:57:22,053
Speaker 16: friends that are becoming good Wise wool and they're they're

1235
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:24,853
Speaker 16: the ones supplying this incredible pure and New Zealin wool

1236
00:57:24,893 --> 00:57:29,333
Speaker 16: that gets engineered into to be like a synthetic like product,

1237
00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:32,773
Speaker 16: but no no chemicals, no nasties, and the farmers are

1238
00:57:32,813 --> 00:57:35,053
Speaker 16: getting paid above the costs for their will. So it's

1239
00:57:35,093 --> 00:57:37,973
Speaker 16: like a win win story. We just need more people

1240
00:57:37,973 --> 00:57:40,493
Speaker 16: to know about it and more people to support support

1241
00:57:40,573 --> 00:57:43,133
Speaker 16: New Zellan made and at the moment it's kind face

1242
00:57:43,373 --> 00:57:46,253
Speaker 16: otherwise it could be or should be do not disturb

1243
00:57:46,493 --> 00:57:47,893
Speaker 16: in March next year.

1244
00:57:48,053 --> 00:57:50,973
Speaker 2: Well, I'm given away six, Well, I can, I can,

1245
00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:55,733
Speaker 2: I can recommend your product fantastic. I'm a big fan

1246
00:57:55,773 --> 00:58:00,013
Speaker 2: of sleeping and these these kind faces they are fantastic

1247
00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:01,333
Speaker 2: and having the wool on your face and you can

1248
00:58:01,333 --> 00:58:03,093
Speaker 2: put them through the microwave. You can cool them down,

1249
00:58:03,133 --> 00:58:05,813
Speaker 2: depending what the season is. Yeah, so kind face about

1250
00:58:05,813 --> 00:58:08,133
Speaker 2: to be do not deserve so buy them now and

1251
00:58:08,133 --> 00:58:10,093
Speaker 2: then by them again when the name changes.

1252
00:58:13,293 --> 00:58:13,613
Speaker 16: Already.

1253
00:58:15,013 --> 00:58:18,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, share and share are like yougaver Chris, thank you

1254
00:58:18,053 --> 00:58:21,053
Speaker 3: all the best. Right, what a great discussion. Just one

1255
00:58:21,093 --> 00:58:23,293
Speaker 3: more text here. There's a company in christ Church guys

1256
00:58:23,293 --> 00:58:26,893
Speaker 3: called Knobs and Knockers. They do door hardware like that,

1257
00:58:27,013 --> 00:58:27,813
Speaker 3: Knobs and knocks.

1258
00:58:27,613 --> 00:58:30,293
Speaker 2: Robbers and Knockers. Okay, yeah, I get it. I feel

1259
00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:33,013
Speaker 2: like there's a new Zealand. Maybe that says something about us,

1260
00:58:33,053 --> 00:58:36,173
Speaker 2: but it seems like names with a slight double entendre,

1261
00:58:36,533 --> 00:58:39,093
Speaker 2: a slight sexual nature. It seemed to go really well in.

1262
00:58:39,053 --> 00:58:43,253
Speaker 3: This Costeah exactly right. That is where we'll leave it.

1263
00:58:43,373 --> 00:58:47,053
Speaker 3: Headlines coming up, and then we've got another topic on

1264
00:58:47,093 --> 00:58:50,133
Speaker 3: the table for you. Stand by. It's twenty nine to three.

1265
00:58:52,973 --> 00:58:56,613
Speaker 13: You talk be headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

1266
00:58:56,773 --> 00:59:00,173
Speaker 13: trouble with the blue bubble, the Finance Minister signaling her

1267
00:59:00,213 --> 00:59:04,133
Speaker 13: government will further cut into the public service. As Treasury

1268
00:59:04,253 --> 00:59:07,693
Speaker 13: gives it's half your economic and fiscal update, it shows

1269
00:59:07,733 --> 00:59:11,053
Speaker 13: the expected surplus has been pushed out from twenty twenty

1270
00:59:11,133 --> 00:59:16,093
Speaker 13: seven to beyond twenty thirty. Labour's leader is calling ramping

1271
00:59:16,173 --> 00:59:19,973
Speaker 13: up security staff in twenty hospital eds over summer and

1272
00:59:20,093 --> 00:59:24,173
Speaker 13: into the future a band aid solution. Chrissipkin says addressing

1273
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:28,093
Speaker 13: the poverty and inequality making people sick will stop ed's

1274
00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:32,213
Speaker 13: being overloaded. An apology from the board of christ Church's

1275
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 13: Orana Wildlife Park after two reviews found it lacks a

1276
00:59:36,333 --> 00:59:39,133
Speaker 13: clear purpose and vision. It says a lot of works

1277
00:59:39,173 --> 00:59:42,253
Speaker 13: needed and they are committed to doing it. The government

1278
00:59:42,373 --> 00:59:47,133
Speaker 13: is promising refining employer visa settings will support business and

1279
00:59:47,213 --> 00:59:51,213
Speaker 13: keep talent here. They include removing the median wage threshold

1280
00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:56,733
Speaker 13: and minimum experience needed for lower skilled migrants. Global mental

1281
00:59:56,773 --> 01:00:01,093
Speaker 13: health crisis hits workplaces. Read more at ensid Herald Premium.

1282
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:03,173
Speaker 13: Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

1283
01:00:03,173 --> 01:00:06,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It's twenty six to three, so.

1284
01:00:06,053 --> 01:00:10,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand has won the third test against England. Comprehensively

1285
01:00:10,213 --> 01:00:12,413
Speaker 2: by over four hundred runs. But that's the end for

1286
01:00:12,573 --> 01:00:15,253
Speaker 2: Tim Souey and what a great New Zealand he is

1287
01:00:15,293 --> 01:00:17,693
Speaker 2: and what a fantastic bowler and servant he has been

1288
01:00:17,733 --> 01:00:21,133
Speaker 2: for New Zealand. Cricket debuted when he was nineteen years old. Wow,

1289
01:00:21,453 --> 01:00:24,333
Speaker 2: he's retiring now at thirty six, So that's basically all

1290
01:00:24,373 --> 01:00:26,693
Speaker 2: he's nine because you consider the amount of cricket he

1291
01:00:26,693 --> 01:00:28,613
Speaker 2: would have had to play before he could get into

1292
01:00:28,653 --> 01:00:32,213
Speaker 2: the Black Caps. So an entire life spent into cricket.

1293
01:00:32,253 --> 01:00:35,093
Speaker 2: And it was interesting because the other day his father

1294
01:00:35,253 --> 01:00:38,413
Speaker 2: was being interviewed about his retirement and had this to say.

1295
01:00:38,333 --> 01:00:41,653
Speaker 3: He just loves cricket. He can't imagine life without cricket.

1296
01:00:42,413 --> 01:00:44,693
Speaker 2: So he's going to have a whole life without cricket.

1297
01:00:44,693 --> 01:00:47,653
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting situation. Before him, his

1298
01:00:47,773 --> 01:00:49,293
Speaker 2: dad bought him a set of stumps when he was

1299
01:00:49,333 --> 01:00:52,813
Speaker 2: ten and basically Tim Southy's just been bowling at stumps

1300
01:00:53,213 --> 01:00:55,693
Speaker 2: ever since. And it's a really interesting thing being a

1301
01:00:55,693 --> 01:00:58,333
Speaker 2: professional sports person because I've talked to a number of

1302
01:00:58,373 --> 01:01:02,733
Speaker 2: them when they retire and their life is very different

1303
01:01:02,813 --> 01:01:05,093
Speaker 2: because every day when you're on tour, it's like staying

1304
01:01:05,093 --> 01:01:07,093
Speaker 2: in school the whole time, or staying in an institution,

1305
01:01:07,213 --> 01:01:10,573
Speaker 2: you've become institutionalized. Every day you get a turnery of

1306
01:01:10,573 --> 01:01:12,373
Speaker 2: what you're doing that day slipped under your door. And

1307
01:01:12,373 --> 01:01:14,533
Speaker 2: then suddenly you retire and you've got to You've got

1308
01:01:14,573 --> 01:01:16,773
Speaker 2: to look after your home, your whole life. You've got

1309
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 2: to build your life back here at home. It's an

1310
01:01:19,613 --> 01:01:22,773
Speaker 2: age transition, interesting transition. I mean, I'm sure he won't

1311
01:01:22,773 --> 01:01:25,733
Speaker 2: be wanting for money, but I had a bit of

1312
01:01:25,733 --> 01:01:28,813
Speaker 2: a rare insight into what it was like for Tim

1313
01:01:28,853 --> 01:01:33,693
Speaker 2: Saudi when they went over to India to follow the

1314
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:37,133
Speaker 2: Royal Challenges Bangalore when he was playing for them and

1315
01:01:37,213 --> 01:01:39,573
Speaker 2: stayed in the same hotel as the team. Bass McCullum

1316
01:01:39,613 --> 01:01:41,853
Speaker 2: was in the team, then Daniel Ltroru is coaching, there

1317
01:01:41,853 --> 01:01:44,533
Speaker 2: were a few other New Zealanders there and they were

1318
01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:46,773
Speaker 2: just stuck in that hotel because they couldn't really go

1319
01:01:46,893 --> 01:01:52,333
Speaker 2: outside of the Royal the ritz Ban Bangalore incredibly flash hotel,

1320
01:01:52,653 --> 01:01:55,613
Speaker 2: so they were just entrenched in there, lived in there,

1321
01:01:55,973 --> 01:01:58,973
Speaker 2: and Bass mcallum and so there's such big stars they

1322
01:01:58,973 --> 01:02:00,813
Speaker 2: couldn't even really go down to the restaurant without being

1323
01:02:00,813 --> 01:02:04,373
Speaker 2: massively hassled and then they'd be picked up in their

1324
01:02:04,413 --> 01:02:06,453
Speaker 2: buses and taken to the ground to practice or taken

1325
01:02:06,453 --> 01:02:09,333
Speaker 2: to the grounds to play, and so it's it's quite

1326
01:02:09,373 --> 01:02:14,573
Speaker 2: a really fun life obviously, but quite an institutionalized a life.

1327
01:02:14,613 --> 01:02:17,533
Speaker 2: So you know, all the best to him, Southy're going forties.

1328
01:02:18,173 --> 01:02:21,693
Speaker 2: He's such a great guy. He's really really funny, fun

1329
01:02:21,813 --> 01:02:24,733
Speaker 2: human being, and he's just been so great for New Zealand,

1330
01:02:24,813 --> 01:02:28,693
Speaker 2: especially those glory years with him and Trent Bolt bowling

1331
01:02:29,053 --> 01:02:34,173
Speaker 2: from each end. Absolutely fantastic. So sad day, but absolute

1332
01:02:34,173 --> 01:02:36,013
Speaker 2: great New Zealander and all the best for him for

1333
01:02:36,053 --> 01:02:36,413
Speaker 2: the future.

1334
01:02:36,493 --> 01:02:38,693
Speaker 3: Yep, go down as one of the greatest, nicely said.

1335
01:02:38,853 --> 01:02:42,533
Speaker 3: Right onto our next topic. So, as school holidays start

1336
01:02:42,573 --> 01:02:45,053
Speaker 3: around the country, thousands of parents are trying to work

1337
01:02:45,093 --> 01:02:47,253
Speaker 3: out how to juggle work in school holidays when kids

1338
01:02:47,293 --> 01:02:49,853
Speaker 3: get at least twelve weeks off during the year and

1339
01:02:49,893 --> 01:02:52,373
Speaker 3: adults only four. So Alan Ford, she is author and

1340
01:02:52,413 --> 01:02:56,013
Speaker 3: founder of the hashtag workschool hours movement, said it was

1341
01:02:56,053 --> 01:02:58,493
Speaker 3: a major problem. She said the hours of work roughly

1342
01:02:58,573 --> 01:03:02,013
Speaker 3: forty hours a week nine to five forty eight ish

1343
01:03:02,053 --> 01:03:05,853
Speaker 3: weeks of the year. All that was cemented more than

1344
01:03:05,893 --> 01:03:09,093
Speaker 3: a century ago with the henry Ford, Carmen Fetching area.

1345
01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:11,973
Speaker 3: This was amazing social progress on its time, but it

1346
01:03:12,053 --> 01:03:15,253
Speaker 3: assumed every household had one worker and one caregiver of

1347
01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:18,253
Speaker 3: the child. That is very much changed in twenty twenty four.

1348
01:03:19,053 --> 01:03:22,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Another thing has changed is that we've decided

1349
01:03:22,493 --> 01:03:25,893
Speaker 2: that kids can't look after themselves at home. And so

1350
01:03:26,133 --> 01:03:28,813
Speaker 2: if you look at the rules according to the government

1351
01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:32,133
Speaker 2: here leaving children by themselves, you can leave a child

1352
01:03:32,253 --> 01:03:34,813
Speaker 2: under fourteen at home or in another place if you

1353
01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:37,733
Speaker 2: have made reasonable provisions to have them supervised and cared

1354
01:03:37,733 --> 01:03:41,333
Speaker 2: for safely, and if they're not left alone for if

1355
01:03:41,333 --> 01:03:44,053
Speaker 2: they're not left for a long time. So these are

1356
01:03:44,053 --> 01:03:48,093
Speaker 2: the government regulations, so they're pretty pretty vague. Parents, guardians

1357
01:03:48,093 --> 01:03:50,533
Speaker 2: and caregivers can be fined a maximum two thousand dollars

1358
01:03:50,613 --> 01:03:54,693
Speaker 2: under the if they do not make safe care arrangements

1359
01:03:54,733 --> 01:03:55,333
Speaker 2: for their child.

1360
01:03:55,413 --> 01:03:55,613
Speaker 21: Right.

1361
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:59,813
Speaker 2: So maybe the solution is, and this could be controversial,

1362
01:04:00,453 --> 01:04:03,573
Speaker 2: is kids need to be looking after themselves at home.

1363
01:04:04,653 --> 01:04:07,533
Speaker 2: A ten year old can look after themselves at home. Yeah,

1364
01:04:07,813 --> 01:04:10,333
Speaker 2: that used to be the way. That is part of

1365
01:04:10,373 --> 01:04:13,053
Speaker 2: the problem. People are rushing across town to look after

1366
01:04:13,093 --> 01:04:15,573
Speaker 2: a ten year old, a ten year old and I

1367
01:04:15,653 --> 01:04:18,053
Speaker 2: read this fantastic book by Jonathan Hyde called The Coddling

1368
01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:21,493
Speaker 2: of America, and he was basically saying, if you want

1369
01:04:21,493 --> 01:04:25,093
Speaker 2: to bring up competent children that are emotionally strong, then

1370
01:04:25,133 --> 01:04:27,773
Speaker 2: you leave them to look after themselves as much as

1371
01:04:27,773 --> 01:04:29,453
Speaker 2: you can. You get them to walk to the shops

1372
01:04:29,453 --> 01:04:32,133
Speaker 2: with themselves. You need to walk home from school by themselves.

1373
01:04:32,253 --> 01:04:34,373
Speaker 2: You leave them in the house as much as you can.

1374
01:04:34,933 --> 01:04:38,653
Speaker 2: So are we just helicoptering our parents into stress for

1375
01:04:38,693 --> 01:04:42,853
Speaker 2: ourselves when it comes around our jobs. Surely you can

1376
01:04:42,933 --> 01:04:44,853
Speaker 2: go to work and leave a ten year old at

1377
01:04:44,853 --> 01:04:48,613
Speaker 2: home by themselves for the day. Especially now in these phones,

1378
01:04:48,693 --> 01:04:49,613
Speaker 2: they can get hold of you.

1379
01:04:50,413 --> 01:04:52,773
Speaker 3: There's a lot of options there. If anything goes wrong,

1380
01:04:52,813 --> 01:04:54,413
Speaker 3: you can get a hold of parents or a key

1381
01:04:54,413 --> 01:04:56,773
Speaker 3: giver really fast. But just going back on the old

1382
01:04:56,773 --> 01:05:00,013
Speaker 3: school pickup, most kids get picked up by the parents

1383
01:05:00,213 --> 01:05:02,853
Speaker 3: outside of the school gates. There's no walking to and

1384
01:05:02,973 --> 01:05:06,013
Speaker 3: from school, there's no cycling. My mum would never think

1385
01:05:06,013 --> 01:05:08,773
Speaker 3: about picking me up from school, not one iota. You said,

1386
01:05:09,013 --> 01:05:11,373
Speaker 3: you can walk back back to the house and the

1387
01:05:11,413 --> 01:05:13,253
Speaker 3: door will be unlocked. I'm going to finish work in

1388
01:05:13,293 --> 01:05:16,573
Speaker 3: a couple of hours. Make yourself a cheese toasty, and

1389
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:17,933
Speaker 3: we'll have tea when I get home.

1390
01:05:18,053 --> 01:05:19,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I used to love getting home and

1391
01:05:20,053 --> 01:05:21,893
Speaker 2: my parents. You know, my mum was a teacher and

1392
01:05:21,893 --> 01:05:23,853
Speaker 2: my dad would be at work. I'd get home, there'd

1393
01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:26,133
Speaker 2: be no one home. I would make so much food.

1394
01:05:26,413 --> 01:05:29,333
Speaker 2: I would have basically an entire loaf of white bread

1395
01:05:29,653 --> 01:05:32,373
Speaker 2: was turned into peanut butter sandwiches, the glass of milk

1396
01:05:32,413 --> 01:05:34,453
Speaker 2: at every biscuit in the house that I could find,

1397
01:05:34,493 --> 01:05:37,253
Speaker 2: and I'd sit down and watch TV. Happy days.

1398
01:05:37,653 --> 01:05:39,733
Speaker 3: Loads were the best hours of my life. If my

1399
01:05:39,773 --> 01:05:41,573
Speaker 3: older bro was at sport and I had the house

1400
01:05:41,573 --> 01:05:43,213
Speaker 3: to myself, that was such good time.

1401
01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 2: Surely that's better than my parents having to race across

1402
01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:50,133
Speaker 2: town to be home to what sit in another room? Yeah,

1403
01:05:50,373 --> 01:05:53,573
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, are we just? I mean, kids

1404
01:05:53,653 --> 01:05:56,013
Speaker 2: used to go to work. And the interesting thing about

1405
01:05:56,453 --> 01:05:58,733
Speaker 2: school holidays and why they're so long is when they

1406
01:05:58,733 --> 01:06:00,613
Speaker 2: were working out those school holidays back in the day,

1407
01:06:00,653 --> 01:06:03,893
Speaker 2: it was because families needed their kids to help on

1408
01:06:03,933 --> 01:06:08,213
Speaker 2: the farm over the summer break. Yeah, and so that's

1409
01:06:08,213 --> 01:06:09,853
Speaker 2: why they had long holidays.

1410
01:06:09,413 --> 01:06:11,133
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. And the more kids you had, the more

1411
01:06:11,173 --> 01:06:13,933
Speaker 3: workers you had. It was our word word situation it's fantastic.

1412
01:06:13,973 --> 01:06:16,453
Speaker 2: So I understand what she's saying that the system is

1413
01:06:17,053 --> 01:06:20,453
Speaker 2: an old system that hasn't changed, but we haven't helped

1414
01:06:20,453 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 2: ourselves by freaking out too much about our kids.

1415
01:06:23,173 --> 01:06:26,053
Speaker 3: Yep. In my opinion, oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty,

1416
01:06:26,093 --> 01:06:28,333
Speaker 3: have we got a little bit too precious with kids

1417
01:06:28,373 --> 01:06:31,333
Speaker 3: staying at home by themselves or walking to and from

1418
01:06:31,373 --> 01:06:33,733
Speaker 3: school by themselves. Loves to hear from you on this one.

1419
01:06:33,933 --> 01:06:36,333
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is

1420
01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:37,533
Speaker 3: nineteen to three.

1421
01:06:39,693 --> 01:06:42,133
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1422
01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:42,773
Speaker 4: along the way.

1423
01:06:43,013 --> 01:06:46,533
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1424
01:06:46,573 --> 01:06:47,493
Speaker 1: four youth talks.

1425
01:06:47,493 --> 01:06:49,893
Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon sixteen to three.

1426
01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:53,293
Speaker 2: We're talking about the enormous mismatch there is between the

1427
01:06:53,893 --> 01:06:58,373
Speaker 2: four weeks holiday that most New Zealand parents get and

1428
01:06:58,453 --> 01:07:01,413
Speaker 2: the twelve weeks holiday that their kids get. And it

1429
01:07:01,493 --> 01:07:03,693
Speaker 2: doesn't really work out if you're trying to work a

1430
01:07:03,733 --> 01:07:05,573
Speaker 2: forty hour week but you have to also be at

1431
01:07:05,613 --> 01:07:08,093
Speaker 2: home with your kids, and there is some pressure on

1432
01:07:08,453 --> 01:07:12,253
Speaker 2: employers to be flexible around that. But that's some issues

1433
01:07:12,293 --> 01:07:15,373
Speaker 2: now in a tough you know, a tough employment market.

1434
01:07:16,213 --> 01:07:18,853
Speaker 2: If you're looking for that kind of flexibility and your

1435
01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:23,453
Speaker 2: employee is not, then And also, you know people have

1436
01:07:23,493 --> 01:07:26,653
Speaker 2: been complaining before, and you were complaining to me earlier today, Tyler,

1437
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:29,373
Speaker 2: about how you've been in workplaces where there's been you

1438
01:07:29,413 --> 01:07:31,253
Speaker 2: don't have kids, and there's been people that have kids,

1439
01:07:31,253 --> 01:07:33,613
Speaker 2: and you've had to take up the slack because people

1440
01:07:33,613 --> 01:07:35,013
Speaker 2: with kids have got to rush off and do their

1441
01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:35,373
Speaker 2: kid thing.

1442
01:07:35,533 --> 01:07:38,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, which can be controversial in a workplace. And I

1443
01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:40,533
Speaker 3: feel for a lot of parents out there. And the

1444
01:07:40,573 --> 01:07:43,493
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is that most young parents both

1445
01:07:43,533 --> 01:07:46,413
Speaker 3: have to work right after they get off opportunity.

1446
01:07:46,453 --> 01:07:49,973
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how our economy is now. It used

1447
01:07:49,973 --> 01:07:53,453
Speaker 2: to be a time when one working parent could make

1448
01:07:53,573 --> 01:07:56,493
Speaker 2: enough money to run a family, but now our economy

1449
01:07:56,653 --> 01:07:59,933
Speaker 2: is geared such that both both mum and dad generally speaking,

1450
01:08:00,013 --> 01:08:03,453
Speaker 2: have to work either full time or one full time

1451
01:08:03,493 --> 01:08:05,773
Speaker 2: one part time. But yeah, it just doesn't work between

1452
01:08:05,773 --> 01:08:08,133
Speaker 2: the four weeks holiday and the twelve weeks holiday.

1453
01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:11,013
Speaker 3: And you've asked the question, what is wrong with leaving

1454
01:08:11,093 --> 01:08:12,933
Speaker 3: kids under fourteen at home just for a couple of

1455
01:08:13,013 --> 01:08:15,653
Speaker 3: hours while you finish the working day. The kids can

1456
01:08:15,653 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 3: get in there have a nice feed, get the two

1457
01:08:17,973 --> 01:08:20,572
Speaker 3: minute noodles on and they'll be fine. They put on

1458
01:08:20,572 --> 01:08:21,492
Speaker 3: the telly. It's a good time.

1459
01:08:21,572 --> 01:08:24,692
Speaker 2: It's bloody good for them. I disagree with this idea

1460
01:08:24,772 --> 01:08:28,532
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't leave kids under fourteen at home alone.

1461
01:08:28,572 --> 01:08:31,572
Speaker 2: Like why fourteen kids? Ten?

1462
01:08:31,772 --> 01:08:34,333
Speaker 3: I say ten thirteen? They should be out working.

1463
01:08:34,412 --> 01:08:38,852
Speaker 2: I think at five they used to be down the

1464
01:08:38,853 --> 01:08:42,452
Speaker 2: bloody chimneys back in the day, and now they can't

1465
01:08:42,452 --> 01:08:43,652
Speaker 2: look after themselves at ten.

1466
01:08:43,853 --> 01:08:46,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1467
01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:48,173
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you on this one, Joe, how

1468
01:08:48,173 --> 01:08:49,892
Speaker 3: are you dahn?

1469
01:08:49,973 --> 01:08:50,173
Speaker 26: Good?

1470
01:08:50,213 --> 01:08:50,612
Speaker 12: Mate?

1471
01:08:50,772 --> 01:08:50,932
Speaker 6: Good?

1472
01:08:50,933 --> 01:08:51,213
Speaker 1: Hey?

1473
01:08:51,572 --> 01:08:54,293
Speaker 27: Yeah, I reckon. These people that drive their kids to school,

1474
01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:56,852
Speaker 27: they're just over the top. It's just ridiculous.

1475
01:08:57,253 --> 01:08:57,492
Speaker 24: You know.

1476
01:08:57,973 --> 01:09:00,612
Speaker 27: We have all this problem of the roads of cars

1477
01:09:00,652 --> 01:09:04,053
Speaker 27: clogging up the roads in the morning and in the afternoon,

1478
01:09:04,093 --> 01:09:08,452
Speaker 27: and it's all due mostly two people take their kids

1479
01:09:08,452 --> 01:09:13,452
Speaker 27: cool and picking them up. Just ridiculous. I drive a

1480
01:09:13,492 --> 01:09:17,972
Speaker 27: school bus and I use it about forty forty children

1481
01:09:18,013 --> 01:09:22,253
Speaker 27: on my bus getting to the school gate, which is

1482
01:09:22,333 --> 01:09:27,293
Speaker 27: probably about just about two ks and it's something a

1483
01:09:27,372 --> 01:09:29,892
Speaker 27: bumper and it stop go stop, go, stop go. And

1484
01:09:29,933 --> 01:09:32,133
Speaker 27: one morning I had a girl who was walking on

1485
01:09:32,133 --> 01:09:35,772
Speaker 27: the poop path and she beat us to the gates.

1486
01:09:37,293 --> 01:09:37,972
Speaker 8: You know what I mean.

1487
01:09:38,133 --> 01:09:40,452
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's just ridiculous, mate.

1488
01:09:41,532 --> 01:09:43,732
Speaker 2: I think what happens is it becomes a group mentality

1489
01:09:43,772 --> 01:09:46,253
Speaker 2: as well. Is because everyone's dropping their kids off, there

1490
01:09:46,253 --> 01:09:49,372
Speaker 2: seems like there's less kids walking to school. But if

1491
01:09:49,812 --> 01:09:52,133
Speaker 2: everyone stopped dropping their kids off, and of course there's

1492
01:09:52,173 --> 01:09:54,452
Speaker 2: some people that do there further away and it's more

1493
01:09:54,452 --> 01:09:56,732
Speaker 2: difficult in big cities than it is in small towns

1494
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:01,732
Speaker 2: and whatever, But if there was just a general general

1495
01:10:01,812 --> 01:10:04,812
Speaker 2: movement towards kids walking to school and walking home from school,

1496
01:10:04,893 --> 01:10:07,173
Speaker 2: a would take the pressure off the parents and there

1497
01:10:07,173 --> 01:10:09,852
Speaker 2: would just be more kids out and about, so it

1498
01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:10,852
Speaker 2: would appear to be safe.

1499
01:10:10,853 --> 01:10:14,532
Speaker 27: It's appearance, Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.

1500
01:10:14,572 --> 01:10:16,452
Speaker 3: Do you think a big part of it, I mean,

1501
01:10:16,973 --> 01:10:18,572
Speaker 3: I'm just sorry to jump in there is a big

1502
01:10:18,612 --> 01:10:21,532
Speaker 3: part of it as their appearance, particularly younger Pearans, they

1503
01:10:21,532 --> 01:10:23,452
Speaker 3: don't think it's safe for their kids to walk to school.

1504
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,652
Speaker 27: Well, what's wrong with a walking bus? You know?

1505
01:10:28,253 --> 01:10:28,772
Speaker 6: I mean.

1506
01:10:30,133 --> 01:10:32,532
Speaker 27: It must be a good pens that come from the

1507
01:10:32,572 --> 01:10:35,932
Speaker 27: same area and they could all walk together, which would

1508
01:10:35,933 --> 01:10:38,812
Speaker 27: be safer. Yeah, yeah, I mean I can understand that

1509
01:10:38,853 --> 01:10:40,012
Speaker 27: side of the story as well.

1510
01:10:41,293 --> 01:10:43,093
Speaker 8: But I don't know.

1511
01:10:43,572 --> 01:10:46,812
Speaker 27: I mean, we had the same problems. It's not in

1512
01:10:46,893 --> 01:10:49,852
Speaker 27: such the largest scale. When I went to school, you know,

1513
01:10:49,893 --> 01:10:52,213
Speaker 27: it was stranger, danger and all that sort of stuff.

1514
01:10:52,253 --> 01:10:55,173
Speaker 8: So yeah, I don't know.

1515
01:10:55,173 --> 01:10:57,612
Speaker 27: I think you can just be too protective of the kids,

1516
01:10:58,213 --> 01:10:58,612
Speaker 27: you guys.

1517
01:10:58,973 --> 01:11:00,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I thank you so much for you called Joe. Appreciate it.

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01:11:03,893 --> 01:11:06,892
Speaker 3: Plenty of teach coming through. On nine two, niney two, crikey,

1520
01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:09,253
Speaker 3: I left my twelve year old nephew alone for one hour.

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01:11:09,572 --> 01:11:11,692
Speaker 3: He put a metal dish in the microwave and boiled

1522
01:11:11,692 --> 01:11:14,412
Speaker 3: the jugg Right, great idea, regards Donald Omaru.

1523
01:11:14,532 --> 01:11:16,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he learned. That's that doesn't sound like that

1524
01:11:16,492 --> 01:11:19,732
Speaker 2: was bad. That was wasn't that bad? Yeah? So is

1525
01:11:19,772 --> 01:11:23,133
Speaker 2: that the worst story you've got there? That's a great idea.

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01:11:23,253 --> 01:11:25,173
Speaker 2: Put a metal dish in the microwave. It's fine. I've

1527
01:11:25,173 --> 01:11:25,772
Speaker 2: done that before.

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01:11:26,213 --> 01:11:29,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't end well, but you know, quickly learned

1529
01:11:29,372 --> 01:11:29,732
Speaker 3: a lesson.

1530
01:11:29,772 --> 01:11:30,852
Speaker 2: That's a kid learning a lesson.

1531
01:11:31,853 --> 01:11:33,172
Speaker 3: Josie, how are you this afternoon?

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01:11:33,572 --> 01:11:33,732
Speaker 13: Hi?

1533
01:11:33,933 --> 01:11:34,572
Speaker 17: Good, thank you.

1534
01:11:35,173 --> 01:11:35,372
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1535
01:11:35,412 --> 01:11:39,013
Speaker 17: I had an incident where I finished we get three

1536
01:11:39,173 --> 01:11:42,053
Speaker 17: thirty and my kids would walk home and I set

1537
01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:44,612
Speaker 17: up the shed, so then they went in the house

1538
01:11:44,652 --> 01:11:47,333
Speaker 17: in case the chuches stave and blah blah blah. One

1539
01:11:47,372 --> 01:11:50,612
Speaker 17: was intermediate, one was Standard four. And I got a

1540
01:11:50,652 --> 01:11:53,612
Speaker 17: knock at the door and it was Child, Youth and Family.

1541
01:11:54,572 --> 01:11:58,173
Speaker 17: I'm believing my kids at home for half an hour

1542
01:11:58,293 --> 01:12:00,412
Speaker 17: to forty five minutes. I wasn't allowed to do that.

1543
01:12:00,772 --> 01:12:03,612
Speaker 17: But the funniest thing is my kids were left to

1544
01:12:03,612 --> 01:12:05,012
Speaker 17: pay down the park alone.

1545
01:12:05,213 --> 01:12:10,173
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well also also well also allowed to walk home.

1546
01:12:10,612 --> 01:12:13,053
Speaker 2: Was also allowed to walk home to the shed. So

1547
01:12:13,213 --> 01:12:16,133
Speaker 2: I mean were they more danger walking home or in

1548
01:12:16,173 --> 01:12:16,572
Speaker 2: the shed?

1549
01:12:17,692 --> 01:12:18,132
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1550
01:12:18,253 --> 01:12:20,532
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, So you know that was a bit of

1551
01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:23,612
Speaker 17: a thing that you can leave your kids at the

1552
01:12:23,692 --> 01:12:27,652
Speaker 17: past and supervised, but you can't leave them at your

1553
01:12:27,652 --> 01:12:29,732
Speaker 17: house in because there was nothing in there, just the

1554
01:12:29,772 --> 01:12:32,333
Speaker 17: TV and that for them. But also I think we

1555
01:12:32,853 --> 01:12:36,412
Speaker 17: just watched too much American staff. People don't want to

1556
01:12:36,452 --> 01:12:39,053
Speaker 17: steal kids there. They can't even look after the young

1557
01:12:39,173 --> 01:12:43,732
Speaker 17: kids little go and steal some Yeah, yeah, I think

1558
01:12:43,732 --> 01:12:46,133
Speaker 17: it's a bit ridiculous. Actually, well, it's interesting.

1559
01:12:46,893 --> 01:12:49,692
Speaker 2: It's interesting if you if you read that that the

1560
01:12:49,732 --> 01:12:53,372
Speaker 2: coddling of America by Jonathan Hyde. It's fantastic, but he he.

1561
01:12:53,772 --> 01:12:56,612
Speaker 2: His theory is that there was there was a kid

1562
01:12:56,612 --> 01:12:58,652
Speaker 2: that went missing in New York and his father went

1563
01:12:58,692 --> 01:13:03,492
Speaker 2: on this big campaign to to help missing kids, and

1564
01:13:03,532 --> 01:13:06,293
Speaker 2: so what that was. What happened then was they started

1565
01:13:06,293 --> 01:13:09,452
Speaker 2: putting a face on it milk cartons of missing kids.

1566
01:13:10,093 --> 01:13:12,412
Speaker 2: So that became a thing across all of America. So

1567
01:13:12,532 --> 01:13:15,173
Speaker 2: every morning people would get up and see a picture

1568
01:13:15,213 --> 01:13:17,612
Speaker 2: of a missing kid. Never mind the fact that most

1569
01:13:17,652 --> 01:13:19,812
Speaker 2: of the missing kids were by far ninety five percent

1570
01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:21,612
Speaker 2: of them were just being picked up by a different

1571
01:13:21,612 --> 01:13:24,213
Speaker 2: parent or whatever they were. There wasn't really the level

1572
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:26,692
Speaker 2: of stranger danger that they thought out there. But there

1573
01:13:26,732 --> 01:13:29,532
Speaker 2: was a huge panic that came across all It came

1574
01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:31,532
Speaker 2: across all American parents because every day they saw this

1575
01:13:31,572 --> 01:13:33,612
Speaker 2: picture of a missing kid and they went, oh, no,

1576
01:13:33,772 --> 01:13:36,532
Speaker 2: kids are getting stolen everywhere. They started driving their kids

1577
01:13:36,532 --> 01:13:39,852
Speaker 2: to school. And where America goes, the world follows. So

1578
01:13:39,973 --> 01:13:42,412
Speaker 2: England followed, and then we followed, and now we've got

1579
01:13:42,412 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 2: this whole situation where we're picking out kids of and

1580
01:13:44,253 --> 01:13:44,692
Speaker 2: dropping off.

1581
01:13:45,412 --> 01:13:49,253
Speaker 17: Yeah, it takes out because independence away, you know, they're

1582
01:13:49,293 --> 01:13:52,293
Speaker 17: not allowed to like kids are nothing like they used

1583
01:13:52,372 --> 01:13:54,852
Speaker 17: to they when I grew up, you know, you could

1584
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:57,012
Speaker 17: get a grade knee and you can get all these

1585
01:13:57,013 --> 01:14:00,052
Speaker 17: sorts of stuff, climb trees and stuff. Now they don't

1586
01:14:00,053 --> 01:14:02,733
Speaker 17: know how to do half for that, you know, entertainment

1587
01:14:02,973 --> 01:14:05,812
Speaker 17: is you've got to take them somewhere. They can't figure

1588
01:14:05,853 --> 01:14:09,053
Speaker 17: it out the main south. So all that stuff is

1589
01:14:09,133 --> 01:14:14,293
Speaker 17: just added to Wow, our kids are so not independent.

1590
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:17,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, Josie. I mean that is

1591
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:20,053
Speaker 3: an interesting fact there. It's almost like a contagian, isn't it.

1592
01:14:20,133 --> 01:14:23,532
Speaker 3: That fear as you say constantly, I've seen that kid

1593
01:14:23,572 --> 01:14:25,812
Speaker 3: on the back of the milk carton. But there's been

1594
01:14:25,853 --> 01:14:29,612
Speaker 3: all of those various skies over the last even thirty years,

1595
01:14:29,652 --> 01:14:32,333
Speaker 3: you know, there was the Satanic panic. I mean, there's

1596
01:14:32,452 --> 01:14:34,812
Speaker 3: just these social contagians that take a hold.

1597
01:14:35,053 --> 01:14:35,213
Speaker 4: Well.

1598
01:14:35,253 --> 01:14:37,213
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that you want the knowledge that

1599
01:14:37,253 --> 01:14:40,293
Speaker 2: your kids can survive on their own without you. I mean,

1600
01:14:40,293 --> 01:14:41,812
Speaker 2: that's the whole point of being a parent. Right as

1601
01:14:41,893 --> 01:14:45,093
Speaker 2: quickly as you can, you can make them independent. And

1602
01:14:45,173 --> 01:14:47,532
Speaker 2: until they can do things on their own, then they

1603
01:14:47,572 --> 01:14:50,093
Speaker 2: will never be independent. And if you're ever present, and

1604
01:14:50,093 --> 01:14:52,293
Speaker 2: they're only safe when you're ever present, you're not really

1605
01:14:52,293 --> 01:14:54,772
Speaker 2: bringing up a safe kid. You're bringing up a kid

1606
01:14:54,812 --> 01:14:57,093
Speaker 2: when you teach them independence and they're proud that they

1607
01:14:57,133 --> 01:15:01,932
Speaker 2: look after themselves and they are competent to go out

1608
01:15:01,933 --> 01:15:04,213
Speaker 2: into the world. But if you just look after them,

1609
01:15:04,253 --> 01:15:06,093
Speaker 2: pick them up, drop them off, you say that they

1610
01:15:06,133 --> 01:15:10,253
Speaker 2: can't be on their own, then when they're nineteen eighteen

1611
01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:13,372
Speaker 2: or whenever they leave the house, they're still freaking useless.

1612
01:15:13,452 --> 01:15:15,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they struggle when they get into the

1613
01:15:15,253 --> 01:15:16,972
Speaker 3: university halls and don't know how to cook.

1614
01:15:16,772 --> 01:15:18,772
Speaker 2: An egg, and then they're asking for safe space.

1615
01:15:19,173 --> 01:15:21,412
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear

1616
01:15:21,452 --> 01:15:23,892
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this one. It is eight minutes to.

1617
01:15:23,933 --> 01:15:28,652
Speaker 1: Three the issues that affect you and a bit of

1618
01:15:28,692 --> 01:15:32,372
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heaton, Taylor Adams Afternoons you

1619
01:15:32,532 --> 01:15:35,933
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you talk SEDB News.

1620
01:15:35,692 --> 01:15:38,612
Speaker 3: Talk said B. It is five to three. Plenty of

1621
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:43,573
Speaker 3: texts coming through on this one. As an employer in hospitality,

1622
01:15:43,572 --> 01:15:45,652
Speaker 3: how do parents expect to be able to take time

1623
01:15:45,692 --> 01:15:49,212
Speaker 3: off during school holidays? In our and a majority of businesses,

1624
01:15:49,293 --> 01:15:52,973
Speaker 3: childcare is the responsibility of the parents, not the employer,

1625
01:15:53,772 --> 01:15:55,492
Speaker 3: which is a fair point, and that was on the

1626
01:15:56,053 --> 01:16:01,812
Speaker 3: original story about this campaign, which was hashtag works school

1627
01:16:01,893 --> 01:16:05,532
Speaker 3: hours movement. I mean, that's a big push on employers.

1628
01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:08,013
Speaker 2: But we feels like employers have to take on quite

1629
01:16:08,053 --> 01:16:11,692
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah really, but we do want more kids.

1630
01:16:11,732 --> 01:16:14,013
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, with the population decline, one thing New

1631
01:16:14,093 --> 01:16:17,372
Speaker 2: Zealand does need is more more kids. So we have

1632
01:16:17,452 --> 01:16:19,333
Speaker 2: to make it possible for that to happen. But we

1633
01:16:19,412 --> 01:16:22,933
Speaker 2: currently live in an economy where both parents have to

1634
01:16:22,973 --> 01:16:26,892
Speaker 2: work basically and most families to stay above water. So

1635
01:16:27,652 --> 01:16:28,812
Speaker 2: it's a complex situation.

1636
01:16:29,053 --> 01:16:31,972
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the business owners responsibility. Yea, society

1637
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:34,692
Speaker 3: is changing, but there's not a business owner's fault. You know,

1638
01:16:34,732 --> 01:16:37,253
Speaker 3: this whole idea of four day work weeks and I

1639
01:16:37,293 --> 01:16:39,692
Speaker 3: only want to work school hours because my kid's tiny

1640
01:16:39,692 --> 01:16:41,253
Speaker 3: and I want to spend time with them. We get

1641
01:16:41,293 --> 01:16:42,892
Speaker 3: all that, but they's not down to the boss. The

1642
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:44,012
Speaker 3: Bossu's got to make a profit.

1643
01:16:44,213 --> 01:16:47,173
Speaker 2: Is it time for the country just to make the

1644
01:16:47,213 --> 01:16:50,093
Speaker 2: school year longer instead of twelve weeks holiday? You just

1645
01:16:50,492 --> 01:16:53,572
Speaker 2: put school holidays in line with parent holidays.

1646
01:16:53,333 --> 01:16:55,012
Speaker 3: Do them well? Eight hours a day kids?

1647
01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:56,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get them a nine till five point thirty

1648
01:16:57,173 --> 01:16:59,692
Speaker 2: just like their parents, and they are at school as

1649
01:16:59,772 --> 01:17:00,852
Speaker 2: much as their parents are at work.

1650
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:04,213
Speaker 3: Yep, sounds good to me right new Sport and where

1651
01:17:04,213 --> 01:17:06,372
Speaker 3: they're coming up we will catch it. On the other

1652
01:17:06,412 --> 01:17:08,492
Speaker 3: side of that, you're listening to Matt and Tail Hope

1653
01:17:08,492 --> 01:17:11,012
Speaker 3: you having a great afternoon. We'll catch us soon.

1654
01:17:14,253 --> 01:17:15,093
Speaker 8: How kill the bell?

1655
01:17:15,213 --> 01:17:19,372
Speaker 26: Sweet silver bells seem to say Christmas is here and

1656
01:17:19,452 --> 01:17:22,772
Speaker 26: bringing Engod here too young, and don't think the boat.

1657
01:17:24,412 --> 01:17:28,333
Speaker 18: Song with joyful Currently one seems to hear words a

1658
01:17:28,452 --> 01:17:32,612
Speaker 18: good cheer from everywhere.

1659
01:17:35,053 --> 01:17:36,012
Speaker 4: Your new home.

1660
01:17:36,133 --> 01:17:40,733
Speaker 1: For insightful and entertaining talk, It's Maddie and Tyler Adams

1661
01:17:40,772 --> 01:17:43,372
Speaker 1: afternoons on news Talks Hebby.

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01:17:44,293 --> 01:17:47,612
Speaker 3: News Talks Ebby seven past three. Well, as you heard

1663
01:17:47,612 --> 01:17:49,892
Speaker 3: in the news with Railing, a seven point four magnitude

1664
01:17:49,893 --> 01:17:55,213
Speaker 3: earthquake has struck near Vanawatu. Had a depth of ten kilometers.

1665
01:17:55,532 --> 01:17:58,133
Speaker 3: There may be some tidal movements, but will keep you

1666
01:17:58,253 --> 01:18:03,692
Speaker 3: updated as the afternoon progresses to stay tuned, but very

1667
01:18:03,692 --> 01:18:06,173
Speaker 3: shortly we will be chatting to Nadia Limb. She is

1668
01:18:06,213 --> 01:18:08,692
Speaker 3: part of our great New Zealanders of Christmas series.

1669
01:18:08,933 --> 01:18:12,133
Speaker 2: Yes started off yesterday with Diehindward and we've got Jude

1670
01:18:12,133 --> 01:18:15,732
Speaker 2: Dobson tomorrow she read a fantastic book this year called

1671
01:18:15,772 --> 01:18:16,972
Speaker 2: The Secret Agent.

1672
01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:20,253
Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely, And speaking of fantastic books, we're going to

1673
01:18:20,333 --> 01:18:23,812
Speaker 3: give away two copies of a Life lest Punishing Thirteen

1674
01:18:23,853 --> 01:18:26,452
Speaker 3: Ways to Love the Life. You've got the number one

1675
01:18:26,452 --> 01:18:28,932
Speaker 3: best seller by Matt Heath. So looking forward to giving

1676
01:18:28,973 --> 01:18:29,333
Speaker 3: that away.

1677
01:18:29,532 --> 01:18:32,613
Speaker 2: Matt Heath. You Mad Heath from Matt and Tyler Afternoons

1678
01:18:32,612 --> 01:18:33,133
Speaker 2: on news Talks.

1679
01:18:33,133 --> 01:18:34,772
Speaker 3: He'd be He's still on a right these days, isn't

1680
01:18:34,812 --> 01:18:36,452
Speaker 3: he Yes, I'm looking forward to that at the end

1681
01:18:36,492 --> 01:18:36,932
Speaker 3: of the show.

1682
01:18:37,053 --> 01:18:39,732
Speaker 2: But right now we're talking about this issue. The hours

1683
01:18:39,732 --> 01:18:41,972
Speaker 2: of work roughly forty hours a week, nine to five

1684
01:18:42,053 --> 01:18:45,652
Speaker 2: forty eight weeks of the year. That's the situation we're

1685
01:18:45,652 --> 01:18:48,852
Speaker 2: in now. As school holidays start around the country, thousands

1686
01:18:48,853 --> 01:18:51,012
Speaker 2: of parents are trying to work out how to juggle

1687
01:18:51,053 --> 01:18:53,972
Speaker 2: work and school holidays. When kids get at least twelve

1688
01:18:54,053 --> 01:18:56,452
Speaker 2: weeks off during the year and adults only get fought

1689
01:18:56,612 --> 01:18:59,293
Speaker 2: the math on, it doesn't seem great. No, And as

1690
01:18:59,333 --> 01:19:00,933
Speaker 2: this Texas says, why don't we change it so the

1691
01:19:00,973 --> 01:19:05,092
Speaker 2: kids get four weeks instead of changing what the parents do? Yeah,

1692
01:19:05,133 --> 01:19:07,452
Speaker 2: And that is interesting because in some countries like Japan,

1693
01:19:07,492 --> 01:19:09,612
Speaker 2: the kids go to school all day, so you talk

1694
01:19:09,652 --> 01:19:11,972
Speaker 2: about the nine to five part of it. So kids

1695
01:19:11,973 --> 01:19:14,173
Speaker 2: in Japan are going to school from nine to five thirty.

1696
01:19:14,013 --> 01:19:15,852
Speaker 3: And it kind of makes sense. I mean, and I

1697
01:19:15,893 --> 01:19:17,812
Speaker 3: don't know if those Japanese kids are boarding, but I

1698
01:19:17,853 --> 01:19:20,932
Speaker 3: know there are some countries where they stay at school

1699
01:19:20,973 --> 01:19:23,372
Speaker 3: over the Christmas period because they're in the boarding house

1700
01:19:23,372 --> 01:19:25,612
Speaker 3: and they can't go home because their parents aren't there

1701
01:19:25,612 --> 01:19:27,492
Speaker 3: to look after them. I mean, why can't we just

1702
01:19:27,532 --> 01:19:28,893
Speaker 3: have that around the clock.

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01:19:28,973 --> 01:19:31,732
Speaker 2: Or as I'm suggesting, why can't we get rid of

1704
01:19:31,732 --> 01:19:36,012
Speaker 2: this rubbish? This is from GUFT dot Nz. So these

1705
01:19:36,013 --> 01:19:38,852
Speaker 2: are the laws. You can leave a children under fourteen

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01:19:38,893 --> 01:19:42,052
Speaker 2: at home or another place if you've made reasonable provisions

1707
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:44,692
Speaker 2: to have them supervised and cared for safely, and they're

1708
01:19:44,692 --> 01:19:49,493
Speaker 2: not left for a long time, so you've made reasonable provisions.

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01:19:49,893 --> 01:19:53,052
Speaker 2: So that seems to me reasonable provisions for someone under fourteen,

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01:19:53,093 --> 01:19:54,532
Speaker 2: as they've got a cell phone that they can ring

1711
01:19:54,772 --> 01:19:57,012
Speaker 2: mum and dad or a neighbor if there's a problem.

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01:19:57,532 --> 01:19:59,492
Speaker 2: This can mean if the child is under fourteen and

1713
01:19:59,572 --> 01:20:02,692
Speaker 2: left alone without reasonable provision for their supervisional care for

1714
01:20:02,732 --> 01:20:05,572
Speaker 2: an unreasonable length of time. What's an unreasonable length of

1715
01:20:05,612 --> 01:20:10,052
Speaker 2: time or an unreasonable circumstances. A parents, guardians, or caregivers

1716
01:20:10,133 --> 01:20:13,132
Speaker 2: can be fined a maximum of two thousand dollars. I reckon,

1717
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:16,412
Speaker 2: we need to shell out and let ten year old

1718
01:20:16,492 --> 01:20:17,852
Speaker 2: kids be at home by themselves.

1719
01:20:17,933 --> 01:20:20,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the case when I was ten years old.

1720
01:20:20,333 --> 01:20:21,932
Speaker 2: It certainly was the case when I was ten years

1721
01:20:22,053 --> 01:20:24,012
Speaker 2: old as well. And look at you and me, Tyler,

1722
01:20:24,013 --> 01:20:28,253
Speaker 2: We've turned out fantastically, says, have hundreds of textas through

1723
01:20:28,293 --> 01:20:31,173
Speaker 2: or nine two nine two. So when did we become

1724
01:20:31,253 --> 01:20:35,253
Speaker 2: so freaked out about it? And that's an interesting theory,

1725
01:20:35,253 --> 01:20:40,253
Speaker 2: And maybe i'll share this writing from American social psychologist

1726
01:20:40,333 --> 01:20:44,253
Speaker 2: and author Jonathan Hite. You might have read his book

1727
01:20:44,372 --> 01:20:46,612
Speaker 2: Coddling of America. It's a great read if you're thinking

1728
01:20:46,612 --> 01:20:48,692
Speaker 2: about this. And he's also got a new book out

1729
01:20:48,692 --> 01:20:51,492
Speaker 2: called The Anxious Generation. He's looking into and the two

1730
01:20:51,532 --> 01:20:55,053
Speaker 2: things are tired. He believes that the anxiety that a

1731
01:20:55,093 --> 01:20:57,253
Speaker 2: lot of young people are feeling now, the gen z's

1732
01:20:57,293 --> 01:21:00,572
Speaker 2: and younger and a little bit of millennial millennial losers

1733
01:21:00,572 --> 01:21:04,333
Speaker 2: like you, Tyler and I offense is maybe the overcoddling

1734
01:21:04,372 --> 01:21:07,412
Speaker 2: of these children. And there's nothing like the independence that

1735
01:21:07,452 --> 01:21:09,652
Speaker 2: can be learned by being a ten eleven year old

1736
01:21:09,772 --> 01:21:12,652
Speaker 2: at home. Sow you mail confidence r, making your own sandwiches, yeah,

1737
01:21:13,213 --> 01:21:15,333
Speaker 2: knives and forks in the microwave, and seeing what happens

1738
01:21:15,372 --> 01:21:17,772
Speaker 2: getting the noodles on er minute noodles. Oh, one hundred

1739
01:21:17,933 --> 01:21:20,932
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty loved to hear from you on this one.

1740
01:21:21,013 --> 01:21:24,213
Speaker 2: Welly sticks from Mars, don't throw stones and glasshouses. You

1741
01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:25,652
Speaker 2: two work four hours a day?

1742
01:21:26,372 --> 01:21:31,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we worked hard to get your mate, Tony.

1743
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:31,612
Speaker 3: How are you?

1744
01:21:32,412 --> 01:21:33,053
Speaker 21: I'm good, mate?

1745
01:21:33,093 --> 01:21:33,293
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1746
01:21:33,372 --> 01:21:36,932
Speaker 21: Good. This in relation to that last call you had

1747
01:21:36,933 --> 01:21:41,492
Speaker 21: the bus driver. Yeah, I've got this about this school

1748
01:21:41,492 --> 01:21:46,853
Speaker 21: holiday time. The roads are fantastic, right, they're pretty good? Yeah?

1749
01:21:47,013 --> 01:21:51,692
Speaker 21: Why don't tweet? This is just my idea. Make school

1750
01:21:51,692 --> 01:21:55,293
Speaker 21: buses free to all children that use them, and if

1751
01:21:55,372 --> 01:21:57,772
Speaker 21: their parents insist on having to drop them at the

1752
01:21:57,812 --> 01:22:01,132
Speaker 21: gate of the school, they pay a levy which pays

1753
01:22:01,173 --> 01:22:03,812
Speaker 21: for the buses for their cads to go. Then they

1754
01:22:03,812 --> 01:22:06,132
Speaker 21: have a sticker on their card to so that they're permitted,

1755
01:22:06,612 --> 01:22:10,293
Speaker 21: and if they get caught having to dropping kids off

1756
01:22:10,572 --> 01:22:13,053
Speaker 21: out without the sticker on their car, they get a

1757
01:22:13,093 --> 01:22:14,532
Speaker 21: hefty fine which.

1758
01:22:14,333 --> 01:22:17,132
Speaker 2: Is sort of a bucket, sort of a coddling tax,

1759
01:22:17,492 --> 01:22:18,852
Speaker 2: a helicopter parent tax.

1760
01:22:19,013 --> 01:22:22,732
Speaker 21: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just my idea.

1761
01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:23,972
Speaker 3: I like, I like your thinking.

1762
01:22:24,093 --> 01:22:28,452
Speaker 21: Yeah yeah, so there. So I actually put it in

1763
01:22:28,532 --> 01:22:31,772
Speaker 21: an AA survey once when they asked about different things

1764
01:22:31,772 --> 01:22:33,333
Speaker 21: on traffic. But I never got to a stop.

1765
01:22:34,692 --> 01:22:36,372
Speaker 2: Well in the in the in the States, they have

1766
01:22:36,492 --> 01:22:39,093
Speaker 2: the school buses, don't they. Nearly every kid has a

1767
01:22:39,093 --> 01:22:41,452
Speaker 2: school bus that that they make, the yellow ones.

1768
01:22:42,253 --> 01:22:44,173
Speaker 21: I read the score on a school bus, you know,

1769
01:22:44,372 --> 01:22:47,892
Speaker 21: from a very early age, and I was walking to

1770
01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:54,012
Speaker 21: school when I was eight nine ten, easy yea yeah,

1771
01:22:54,253 --> 01:22:54,892
Speaker 21: problem at all.

1772
01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:57,133
Speaker 2: And the independence you get as a kid walking to

1773
01:22:57,133 --> 01:23:00,093
Speaker 2: school is it's, you know, taking charge of your life

1774
01:23:00,253 --> 01:23:02,253
Speaker 2: and you'll learn some lessons on the way. You know,

1775
01:23:02,692 --> 01:23:04,093
Speaker 2: you might get into the odd.

1776
01:23:04,293 --> 01:23:06,093
Speaker 21: The other thing is that gives you a really good

1777
01:23:06,133 --> 01:23:10,133
Speaker 21: break between the school and getting home. So you've got

1778
01:23:10,133 --> 01:23:13,253
Speaker 21: that sort of maybe half hour or twenty minutes or

1779
01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:17,213
Speaker 21: whatever and limbo really were you're sort of shaking off

1780
01:23:17,213 --> 01:23:20,612
Speaker 21: the school day and then you're going into another type

1781
01:23:20,612 --> 01:23:23,012
Speaker 21: of your life. It's a nice sort of break between

1782
01:23:23,093 --> 01:23:24,213
Speaker 21: the two. That's what I think.

1783
01:23:24,772 --> 01:23:26,772
Speaker 2: I remember when I was I remember when I was

1784
01:23:26,812 --> 01:23:28,812
Speaker 2: a kid, we lived quite a way away from school,

1785
01:23:28,853 --> 01:23:30,972
Speaker 2: so my dad had to drop us off at school,

1786
01:23:31,333 --> 01:23:33,732
Speaker 2: and he'd often have like sheep or something in the trailer,

1787
01:23:33,973 --> 01:23:36,532
Speaker 2: and one of my sisters would be humiliated by that,

1788
01:23:36,652 --> 01:23:38,532
Speaker 2: so she'd ask him to drop her.

1789
01:23:38,372 --> 01:23:39,972
Speaker 3: Off a down the road.

1790
01:23:40,173 --> 01:23:42,333
Speaker 2: Yes, so she shouldn't be seen me drop off school

1791
01:23:42,372 --> 01:23:44,932
Speaker 2: with the sheep. And the still can't work out why

1792
01:23:44,933 --> 01:23:45,693
Speaker 2: that was embarrassing.

1793
01:23:48,333 --> 01:23:51,333
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tony, Yeah, very good. Oh eight one hundred

1794
01:23:51,372 --> 01:23:54,892
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number call. I mean,

1795
01:23:54,933 --> 01:23:56,372
Speaker 3: there's got to be something. And I know you're going

1796
01:23:56,412 --> 01:23:59,052
Speaker 3: to read their piece out from Jonathan Hight very shortly.

1797
01:23:59,213 --> 01:24:02,253
Speaker 3: But when kids are told that it is no longer

1798
01:24:02,293 --> 01:24:05,052
Speaker 3: safe for you to walk to school and mummy, mummy

1799
01:24:05,093 --> 01:24:07,132
Speaker 3: and daddy have to drop you off because it's scary

1800
01:24:07,173 --> 01:24:09,652
Speaker 3: out there and there's that may hit you and these

1801
01:24:09,692 --> 01:24:12,053
Speaker 3: bad people who may take you, that doesn't do good

1802
01:24:12,093 --> 01:24:13,052
Speaker 3: things to the kid's brain.

1803
01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:15,372
Speaker 2: No it doesn't. But also I think, and this is

1804
01:24:15,452 --> 01:24:17,692
Speaker 2: just talking for myself, but I remember when our kids

1805
01:24:17,692 --> 01:24:20,452
Speaker 2: were little, there was a certain amount of I think

1806
01:24:20,692 --> 01:24:22,812
Speaker 2: I call it bad parenting on my behalf. I couldn't

1807
01:24:22,853 --> 01:24:24,492
Speaker 2: be bothered waiting for them to put their shoes and

1808
01:24:24,532 --> 01:24:27,133
Speaker 2: put their clothes on and working out what they were

1809
01:24:27,133 --> 01:24:30,013
Speaker 2: going to do. So I just dress them, put their

1810
01:24:30,013 --> 01:24:32,452
Speaker 2: shoes on, put them in the car, and drop them

1811
01:24:32,492 --> 01:24:34,133
Speaker 2: off to school. And it was like bundling it up

1812
01:24:34,173 --> 01:24:35,652
Speaker 2: and just getting it done so I could get on

1813
01:24:35,732 --> 01:24:39,372
Speaker 2: with my day, as opposed to the slight admin around

1814
01:24:39,492 --> 01:24:42,892
Speaker 2: you independently get ready, you learn how to do your

1815
01:24:42,933 --> 01:24:45,652
Speaker 2: shoelaces up, and you walk to school, you know. And

1816
01:24:46,133 --> 01:24:48,173
Speaker 2: so there was even though it seems like more effort

1817
01:24:48,213 --> 01:24:49,893
Speaker 2: to do that, it was a kind of a laziness

1818
01:24:50,093 --> 01:24:52,133
Speaker 2: in it because you just got it done. And I

1819
01:24:52,133 --> 01:24:56,053
Speaker 2: remember one a grandparent, a mother in law, she said

1820
01:24:56,053 --> 01:24:58,732
Speaker 2: to me that you've got to let the kids sort

1821
01:24:58,772 --> 01:25:01,972
Speaker 2: themselves out, or else they'll never learn. You know, You've

1822
01:25:01,973 --> 01:25:03,492
Speaker 2: got to get You've just got to stand there while

1823
01:25:03,492 --> 01:25:05,613
Speaker 2: it's punishing, while they're trying to do up their shoelacers,

1824
01:25:05,812 --> 01:25:07,173
Speaker 2: and you've just got to let them walk out the

1825
01:25:07,213 --> 01:25:11,013
Speaker 2: door and go to school. And that was once I

1826
01:25:11,053 --> 01:25:12,492
Speaker 2: realized that was good for them. That was a big

1827
01:25:12,572 --> 01:25:13,133
Speaker 2: change for us.

1828
01:25:13,293 --> 01:25:15,333
Speaker 3: What about if you just said, look, I don't have time,

1829
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:16,892
Speaker 3: I got to get to work. If you can't get

1830
01:25:16,933 --> 01:25:19,692
Speaker 3: your shoes on and get yourself to work. Well, tough pickies,

1831
01:25:19,692 --> 01:25:22,253
Speaker 3: you're going to get in trouble with the principal. Yeah,

1832
01:25:22,412 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 3: well yeah, it's effectively it, right, yeah, saying look you

1833
01:25:24,652 --> 01:25:27,133
Speaker 3: got to go to school. Oh eight one hundred eighty

1834
01:25:27,173 --> 01:25:31,173
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number call. There's a good text here, guys.

1835
01:25:31,572 --> 01:25:34,213
Speaker 3: I was born in nineteen sixty nine. Back then, you

1836
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:36,852
Speaker 3: were encouraged to give your babies fresh air. My mum

1837
01:25:36,893 --> 01:25:38,932
Speaker 3: went to pick my brother's up from school and left

1838
01:25:38,933 --> 01:25:40,852
Speaker 3: me as a baby asleep on the porch. When she

1839
01:25:40,973 --> 01:25:43,253
Speaker 3: got home, there was a note pinned to my best

1840
01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:45,972
Speaker 3: In it it said called in to check on baby

1841
01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:47,373
Speaker 3: doing well from Plunket.

1842
01:25:47,973 --> 01:25:49,973
Speaker 2: Is that that says it's from Paula Bennett? Is that

1843
01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:50,652
Speaker 2: from Paula Bennett?

1844
01:25:50,652 --> 01:25:52,372
Speaker 3: Paula Benett, I think she's listening well.

1845
01:25:52,572 --> 01:25:55,133
Speaker 2: So she was sleeping out on the best in it

1846
01:25:55,173 --> 01:25:58,013
Speaker 2: and she did pretty well for herself, very well. She

1847
01:25:58,412 --> 01:26:00,333
Speaker 2: rose to the top of politics in New Zealand on

1848
01:26:00,333 --> 01:26:01,452
Speaker 2: the back of that. Exactly.

1849
01:26:01,692 --> 01:26:03,812
Speaker 3: Didn't do you hear any harm? It is a quarter

1850
01:26:03,893 --> 01:26:06,293
Speaker 3: past three. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1851
01:26:06,333 --> 01:26:11,532
Speaker 3: the number to call. Good afternoon, eighteen past three, Bowen,

1852
01:26:11,572 --> 01:26:12,572
Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon.

1853
01:26:13,412 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 10: Yeah, good mate, So, yeah, good.

1854
01:26:15,213 --> 01:26:16,053
Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

1855
01:26:16,933 --> 01:26:17,732
Speaker 12: Hey, I just.

1856
01:26:17,772 --> 01:26:21,333
Speaker 10: Listening earlier and I heard the lady call up and

1857
01:26:21,372 --> 01:26:25,492
Speaker 10: said that she had CPS come to her house because

1858
01:26:26,053 --> 01:26:29,492
Speaker 10: her sons or her kids were in the garage after school.

1859
01:26:29,732 --> 01:26:32,453
Speaker 3: Yes, I just I thought.

1860
01:26:32,173 --> 01:26:36,773
Speaker 10: That absolutely ridiculous. I feel like I feel like I'm

1861
01:26:36,812 --> 01:26:39,892
Speaker 10: like an old man right now. But it's just, you know,

1862
01:26:40,812 --> 01:26:44,732
Speaker 10: it's flabbergasting, really, like, well, we all know that there's

1863
01:26:45,372 --> 01:26:47,972
Speaker 10: thousands of kids around there that don't get looked after

1864
01:26:48,093 --> 01:26:48,492
Speaker 10: at all.

1865
01:26:48,532 --> 01:26:50,692
Speaker 2: And then you know, yeah, I think she I think

1866
01:26:50,732 --> 01:26:52,652
Speaker 2: she was setting up it was in the shed and

1867
01:26:52,692 --> 01:26:54,293
Speaker 2: she was setting up a little TV for them. So

1868
01:26:54,333 --> 01:26:56,732
Speaker 2: they were coming home, and it was the gap between

1869
01:26:56,812 --> 01:26:59,612
Speaker 2: when they came walked home from school when she got home,

1870
01:26:59,652 --> 01:27:01,293
Speaker 2: and she was worried that they'll be in the house

1871
01:27:01,532 --> 01:27:03,093
Speaker 2: and there was too many things in the house. So

1872
01:27:03,412 --> 01:27:05,372
Speaker 2: in a way, in my opinion, she was being overly

1873
01:27:05,412 --> 01:27:07,013
Speaker 2: protective because I think the kids will be fine in

1874
01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:09,612
Speaker 2: the house. So good strategy, one hundred percent. It sounds

1875
01:27:09,652 --> 01:27:11,572
Speaker 2: a bit rough to come and give her a hassle

1876
01:27:11,812 --> 01:27:12,452
Speaker 2: about that.

1877
01:27:12,492 --> 01:27:15,013
Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, I'll tell you what my

1878
01:27:15,053 --> 01:27:17,572
Speaker 10: parents would have got to smack over the back of

1879
01:27:17,612 --> 01:27:22,013
Speaker 10: the hand because I was probably you know, ten. We

1880
01:27:22,013 --> 01:27:23,852
Speaker 10: were out on the farm, so it was a bit different.

1881
01:27:23,893 --> 01:27:24,612
Speaker 16: But you know, i'd be.

1882
01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:26,852
Speaker 10: Out there for a couple hours. My dad would go

1883
01:27:27,013 --> 01:27:29,812
Speaker 10: milk or whatever. And you know, like you said earlier,

1884
01:27:30,053 --> 01:27:32,093
Speaker 10: you make a mistake once and you don't do it

1885
01:27:32,093 --> 01:27:34,852
Speaker 10: again and you just learn from it. And like what

1886
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:36,933
Speaker 10: you guys were saying even earlier than that, you know,

1887
01:27:37,013 --> 01:27:39,852
Speaker 10: you come home, make a massive feed, you know, watch TV,

1888
01:27:40,173 --> 01:27:42,173
Speaker 10: do whatever you want to do. That is the best

1889
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:42,812
Speaker 10: time in your life.

1890
01:27:42,853 --> 01:27:43,173
Speaker 12: Really.

1891
01:27:43,572 --> 01:27:46,132
Speaker 2: I still look back so fondly on the massive feeds

1892
01:27:46,133 --> 01:27:48,213
Speaker 2: that i'd make when I got home. In fact, I

1893
01:27:48,253 --> 01:27:49,652
Speaker 2: was so stoked when I got home and there was

1894
01:27:49,692 --> 01:27:52,452
Speaker 2: no parents there, which was every day afterward, but for

1895
01:27:52,532 --> 01:27:54,933
Speaker 2: a while there, Yeah, so stoked with the feeds you

1896
01:27:54,933 --> 01:27:55,333
Speaker 2: could make.

1897
01:27:55,412 --> 01:27:58,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of it. You'd have the whole chunk of

1898
01:27:58,333 --> 01:28:00,652
Speaker 3: cheese to yourself and you get into the bread and

1899
01:28:00,732 --> 01:28:02,612
Speaker 3: Mum had two minute noodles there. Man, it was a

1900
01:28:02,612 --> 01:28:02,972
Speaker 3: good time.

1901
01:28:03,133 --> 01:28:03,293
Speaker 16: It was.

1902
01:28:03,372 --> 01:28:05,492
Speaker 2: If it was after shopping day, which was on Thursday

1903
01:28:05,532 --> 01:28:07,772
Speaker 2: for us, you just have a whole packet of tim Tam.

1904
01:28:08,412 --> 01:28:08,972
Speaker 2: Good times.

1905
01:28:09,772 --> 01:28:13,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, mylon was I went through the whole whole

1906
01:28:13,293 --> 01:28:14,372
Speaker 10: packet of bacon and eggs.

1907
01:28:17,692 --> 01:28:17,892
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1908
01:28:18,053 --> 01:28:20,173
Speaker 10: Yeah, but that's all I wanted to say. I was

1909
01:28:20,213 --> 01:28:22,213
Speaker 10: just a bit surprised that, you know, they put the

1910
01:28:22,372 --> 01:28:25,452
Speaker 10: time of money into coming and pustling someone who you

1911
01:28:25,492 --> 01:28:27,532
Speaker 10: know does that work, and then you know, not out

1912
01:28:27,572 --> 01:28:29,452
Speaker 10: all night or anything like that. We all know that

1913
01:28:29,452 --> 01:28:31,852
Speaker 10: there's people out there that will leave their kids home

1914
01:28:31,933 --> 01:28:33,132
Speaker 10: for days or whatever.

1915
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:36,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks so much for you call bowen and

1916
01:28:36,173 --> 01:28:38,892
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. So I just want to work out there

1917
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:40,772
Speaker 2: because this is what it says. This is this, this

1918
01:28:40,853 --> 01:28:44,213
Speaker 2: is the government. You know, this is from the government website.

1919
01:28:44,532 --> 01:28:47,412
Speaker 2: GUFT said you can leave a child under fourteen at

1920
01:28:47,452 --> 01:28:50,533
Speaker 2: home or in another place if they've made reasonable provisions

1921
01:28:50,572 --> 01:28:53,612
Speaker 2: to have them supervised and cared for safely, and they're

1922
01:28:53,612 --> 01:28:57,013
Speaker 2: not left for a long time. So what what are

1923
01:28:57,173 --> 01:29:00,052
Speaker 2: reasonable provisions and what's not too long?

1924
01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:01,173
Speaker 3: It's super vague, isn't it.

1925
01:29:01,213 --> 01:29:03,133
Speaker 2: So I'd say if if a ten year old walks

1926
01:29:03,133 --> 01:29:05,293
Speaker 2: home from school and they're there at home from three

1927
01:29:05,333 --> 01:29:08,812
Speaker 2: point fifteen to when parents get home at five thirty,

1928
01:29:08,893 --> 01:29:10,812
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that's not too long. Come and

1929
01:29:11,612 --> 01:29:13,852
Speaker 2: reasonable provisions as they know how to use a cell

1930
01:29:13,853 --> 01:29:15,013
Speaker 2: phone exactly.

1931
01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:18,652
Speaker 3: I think we've sold this for the governments. Oh, one

1932
01:29:18,732 --> 01:29:21,772
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1933
01:29:21,973 --> 01:29:22,133
Speaker 9: Yes.

1934
01:29:22,213 --> 01:29:25,173
Speaker 2: I was talking about Jonathan Height before, and I've read

1935
01:29:25,213 --> 01:29:27,053
Speaker 2: a couple of his books, and I rate the guy,

1936
01:29:27,093 --> 01:29:31,732
Speaker 2: an American social psychologist, and he was writing this about

1937
01:29:32,093 --> 01:29:34,772
Speaker 2: that this is the general thinking in Western countries. He says,

1938
01:29:35,013 --> 01:29:36,772
Speaker 2: it's not worth it to take my eyes off my

1939
01:29:36,853 --> 01:29:39,972
Speaker 2: kids ever, because if they are abducted, I will be breefed.

1940
01:29:40,013 --> 01:29:42,052
Speaker 2: It will it be all my fault. And he says

1941
01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:45,492
Speaker 2: this is worst worst first thinking, thinking about the very

1942
01:29:45,532 --> 01:29:48,293
Speaker 2: worst case scenario first and proceeding as if that is

1943
01:29:48,412 --> 01:29:51,412
Speaker 2: likely to happen. It feels natural, But actually it's only

1944
01:29:51,452 --> 01:29:55,772
Speaker 2: a recent cultural habit. It's not innate. Worrying is innate. Yes,

1945
01:29:56,053 --> 01:29:58,892
Speaker 2: love and caring are innate, but worrying constantly about abduction

1946
01:29:59,133 --> 01:30:01,612
Speaker 2: and death is not innate. As we can see from

1947
01:30:01,652 --> 01:30:04,412
Speaker 2: our own parents, who weren't obsessed with these thoughts, and

1948
01:30:04,492 --> 01:30:07,733
Speaker 2: from people in other countries where this kind of catastrophizing

1949
01:30:07,893 --> 01:30:10,732
Speaker 2: was not has not become routine. There's never been a

1950
01:30:10,812 --> 01:30:15,812
Speaker 2: safer time to be a kid in America. The UK, Canada,

1951
01:30:15,973 --> 01:30:19,333
Speaker 2: Australia and New Zealand dimensions. But that doesn't matter people.

1952
01:30:19,853 --> 01:30:22,372
Speaker 2: People won't take that on. So he says, how can

1953
01:30:22,412 --> 01:30:24,972
Speaker 2: you deal with this fact? Like how can you get

1954
01:30:25,013 --> 01:30:27,852
Speaker 2: parents to change? And he says parents have to be

1955
01:30:27,973 --> 01:30:31,293
Speaker 2: persuaded to let their kids go do something on their own.

1956
01:30:31,333 --> 01:30:34,132
Speaker 2: When the kids return home glowing with pride or simply

1957
01:30:34,173 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 2: excited that their parents trusted them, that changes the parents

1958
01:30:37,612 --> 01:30:40,293
Speaker 2: because what is innate is the knowledge that someday our

1959
01:30:40,372 --> 01:30:43,213
Speaker 2: children will have to survive when we are no longer here.

1960
01:30:43,652 --> 01:30:46,013
Speaker 2: Until they do something on their own, all we know

1961
01:30:46,173 --> 01:30:48,253
Speaker 2: is that they are safe because we are ever present

1962
01:30:48,333 --> 01:30:50,973
Speaker 2: protecting them. To finally see that your kids have what

1963
01:30:51,013 --> 01:30:53,612
Speaker 2: it takes to make it as independent humans to carry

1964
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Speaker 2: on when you are gone, that is the real game changer.

1965
01:30:56,853 --> 01:31:00,812
Speaker 2: And I think that you can reach that level of

1966
01:31:00,853 --> 01:31:02,012
Speaker 2: independence under fourteen.

1967
01:31:02,253 --> 01:31:05,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely you got to build resilience, and I think that's

1968
01:31:05,372 --> 01:31:05,852
Speaker 3: good for kids.

1969
01:31:05,893 --> 01:31:07,812
Speaker 2: And I think that this would solve this problem here

1970
01:31:07,933 --> 01:31:11,052
Speaker 2: of it's having twelve weeks holiday and us only having.

1971
01:31:10,933 --> 01:31:13,933
Speaker 3: Four exactly oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1972
01:31:13,973 --> 01:31:16,013
Speaker 3: number to call will wrap this up very shortly. It

1973
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Speaker 3: is twenty three past three.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty

1975
01:31:26,213 --> 01:31:28,093
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZEDB.

1976
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Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. It is twenty five past three.

1977
01:31:32,293 --> 01:31:35,092
Speaker 2: We're talking about the discrepancy between kids who get twelve

1978
01:31:35,173 --> 01:31:38,173
Speaker 2: weeks holiday and they're all on holiday now and parents who,

1979
01:31:38,812 --> 01:31:41,133
Speaker 2: some of them, only get four weeks holiday. It's a

1980
01:31:41,173 --> 01:31:44,293
Speaker 2: bit complicated. Someone here is texta and on to the

1981
01:31:44,333 --> 01:31:48,093
Speaker 2: kids could fix the potholes in the roads in their holidays. Well,

1982
01:31:48,093 --> 01:31:50,092
Speaker 2: it certainly used to be the case that that's.

1983
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Speaker 4: What the kids.

1984
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:54,173
Speaker 2: Kids were working now a lot younger than fourteen. I

1985
01:31:54,173 --> 01:31:55,532
Speaker 2: don't know if we want to send the kids back

1986
01:31:55,572 --> 01:31:56,772
Speaker 2: up the chimneys though.

1987
01:31:56,893 --> 01:31:58,973
Speaker 3: Well, the nation's in trouble. We need all the we

1988
01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:00,652
Speaker 3: need all the help we can get right now, all.

1989
01:32:00,492 --> 01:32:02,333
Speaker 2: Hands on the palm and the holidays. If they're doing

1990
01:32:02,333 --> 01:32:04,133
Speaker 2: nothing for twelve weeks, let's get them out there doing

1991
01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:04,852
Speaker 2: something productive.

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01:32:05,013 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 3: Exactly, Andrew, how are you? Yeah?

1993
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Speaker 8: Yeah, good, thanks guys. I think Tyler already answered my

1994
01:32:14,572 --> 01:32:22,692
Speaker 8: question around ages and things fourteen and under. But I've

1995
01:32:22,692 --> 01:32:27,652
Speaker 8: been little, you know, I've been living abroad, and yeah,

1996
01:32:27,772 --> 01:32:31,213
Speaker 8: I just I couldn't sometimes I didn't see my kids

1997
01:32:31,253 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 8: for all day or even Well, you go and look

1998
01:32:35,173 --> 01:32:38,293
Speaker 8: for them at nighttime and then you go, oh, they're over,

1999
01:32:38,452 --> 01:32:43,692
Speaker 8: they're over a friend's place, you know, blah blah blah.

2000
01:32:43,812 --> 01:32:47,652
Speaker 8: So I mean that's really good. But I think yeah,

2001
01:32:47,692 --> 01:32:52,892
Speaker 8: for me, I mean, my parents made me. Oh, we

2002
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:58,652
Speaker 8: had a one hour bus trip into into school and

2003
01:32:58,692 --> 01:33:06,852
Speaker 8: then it was a four mile uphill walked home and

2004
01:33:06,893 --> 01:33:10,012
Speaker 8: then they went home then and often they weren't home

2005
01:33:10,053 --> 01:33:13,293
Speaker 8: on weekend. But you do get I think you've got

2006
01:33:13,293 --> 01:33:16,572
Speaker 8: to lay down some rules of the road, which my

2007
01:33:16,692 --> 01:33:20,213
Speaker 8: parents actually didn't do very well for us. So me

2008
01:33:20,253 --> 01:33:23,133
Speaker 8: and my brother just you know, locked the car and

2009
01:33:23,333 --> 01:33:26,133
Speaker 8: tried to learn how to drive down the road. Yeah,

2010
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Speaker 8: sorts of things.

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Speaker 9: You know.

2012
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what part of the country when you're living in Andrew,

2013
01:33:30,253 --> 01:33:36,213
Speaker 3: you're pretty rural, I take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, no,

2014
01:33:36,812 --> 01:33:39,173
Speaker 3: thank you very much, Andrew. There used to be a

2015
01:33:39,173 --> 01:33:41,372
Speaker 3: PSA I think it was an America what would play

2016
01:33:41,412 --> 01:33:43,173
Speaker 3: at about eight o'clock at night and would say do

2017
01:33:43,253 --> 01:33:45,452
Speaker 3: you know where your children are? But that was what

2018
01:33:45,532 --> 01:33:47,532
Speaker 3: it used to be like, right is, by the time

2019
01:33:47,532 --> 01:33:49,492
Speaker 3: it got dark, if your kids weren't home, there might

2020
01:33:49,572 --> 01:33:52,732
Speaker 3: be something going on, But most parents in New Zealand

2021
01:33:52,933 --> 01:33:55,213
Speaker 3: and in America would be okay as long as the

2022
01:33:55,293 --> 01:33:56,852
Speaker 3: kids came home before it got too dark.

2023
01:33:56,973 --> 01:33:59,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and if you grew up in Eden

2024
01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:00,932
Speaker 2: like I did, when it got too dark in summer,

2025
01:34:00,973 --> 01:34:03,973
Speaker 2: that's pretty late at night. Yeah, it's ten o'clock. But

2026
01:34:04,412 --> 01:34:07,133
Speaker 2: someone here said, Matt, when did you mean to say

2027
01:34:07,173 --> 01:34:09,133
Speaker 2: a whole packet of Tim tan or did you mean

2028
01:34:09,173 --> 01:34:12,532
Speaker 2: to say Tim Tams, which is grammatically correct? Bless blessed, blessed.

2029
01:34:12,532 --> 01:34:14,812
Speaker 2: You've seen Busy says as text. This is an issue

2030
01:34:14,812 --> 01:34:15,612
Speaker 2: that I'll go on a lot.

2031
01:34:15,652 --> 01:34:15,892
Speaker 11: I was.

2032
01:34:16,133 --> 01:34:18,812
Speaker 2: I was briefly the voice of Tim Tam in New Zealand,

2033
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:21,572
Speaker 2: and the good people at Aren't It would say to me,

2034
01:34:22,093 --> 01:34:25,053
Speaker 2: it's one Tim Tam, it's five Tim Tam. It's not

2035
01:34:25,173 --> 01:34:29,853
Speaker 2: five Tim Tam. It's not Tim TAM's love for Tim Tam.

2036
01:34:30,013 --> 01:34:32,532
Speaker 2: And I'll eat multiple Tim Tam. Yeah, I'll have five

2037
01:34:32,572 --> 01:34:35,572
Speaker 2: Tim Tam. And you're going to upsets the texts here.

2038
01:34:35,732 --> 01:34:38,173
Speaker 2: But if you listen to a Tim Tam, ad that's

2039
01:34:38,293 --> 01:34:40,333
Speaker 2: that they said, there's no paral of it. They're all

2040
01:34:40,412 --> 01:34:41,133
Speaker 2: that's Tim Tam.

2041
01:34:41,372 --> 01:34:44,213
Speaker 3: That's a good pier say for Tim tam right. That

2042
01:34:44,412 --> 01:34:46,772
Speaker 3: is where we'll leave it because we've got Nadi Limbs

2043
01:34:46,812 --> 01:34:49,013
Speaker 3: standing by as part of our Great New Zealanders of

2044
01:34:49,093 --> 01:34:52,892
Speaker 3: Christmas series. It is twenty eight to three headlines with

2045
01:34:53,013 --> 01:34:53,852
Speaker 3: Rayling coming up.

2046
01:34:56,933 --> 01:35:00,572
Speaker 13: Juice Talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

2047
01:35:00,652 --> 01:35:03,692
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. A seven point four

2048
01:35:03,772 --> 01:35:07,133
Speaker 13: magnitude earthquake has strike off Vaniwatu's coast at.

2049
01:35:07,013 --> 01:35:08,613
Speaker 2: Two forty seven pm.

2050
01:35:08,812 --> 01:35:12,093
Speaker 13: It's about ten kilometers deep and then was followed by

2051
01:35:12,173 --> 01:35:15,812
Speaker 13: a second five point five quake. Tsunami waves up to

2052
01:35:15,853 --> 01:35:18,372
Speaker 13: a meter above the tide level are possible for some

2053
01:35:18,452 --> 01:35:22,372
Speaker 13: parts of Vanuatu and lesser waves than other Pacific islands,

2054
01:35:22,692 --> 01:35:26,333
Speaker 13: and New Zealand agencies are assessing any risk for us.

2055
01:35:27,452 --> 01:35:30,972
Speaker 13: The Finance Minister says Treasury didn't support the government changing

2056
01:35:31,093 --> 01:35:34,452
Speaker 13: how it calculates a surplus to remove the four point

2057
01:35:34,452 --> 01:35:39,132
Speaker 13: one billion dollar acc deficit from the official measure. Today's

2058
01:35:39,173 --> 01:35:42,893
Speaker 13: half year Economic and Fiscal update pushes the expected surplus

2059
01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:46,253
Speaker 13: out from twenty twenty seven to be on twenty thirty.

2060
01:35:47,253 --> 01:35:50,572
Speaker 13: The government is promising changes to the Accredited Employment Work

2061
01:35:50,772 --> 01:35:54,413
Speaker 13: Visa Employer Work Visa to remove the median wage threshold

2062
01:35:54,492 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 13: and minimum experience needed for less skilled migrants, and they

2063
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:03,293
Speaker 13: say it will support businesses. How COVID nineteen can change

2064
01:36:03,293 --> 01:36:06,653
Speaker 13: your gut health. Find out more at enzid Herald Premium.

2065
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:09,093
Speaker 13: Back to Matteathan Tyler attam.

2066
01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:12,573
Speaker 3: Well, it was another huge year for chef, author, entrepreneur,

2067
01:36:12,812 --> 01:36:15,772
Speaker 3: farmer and TV star Nadia Limb. The second season of

2068
01:36:15,812 --> 01:36:19,492
Speaker 3: Nadia's Farm had our screens showcasing the raw realities of

2069
01:36:19,532 --> 01:36:22,972
Speaker 3: her and husband Carlos Beggary's farming. There one thy two

2070
01:36:23,013 --> 01:36:26,452
Speaker 3: hundred acre royal burn station. It is a delight to

2071
01:36:26,612 --> 01:36:28,932
Speaker 3: have Nadia Limb on to have a chat, a hit

2072
01:36:28,933 --> 01:36:33,172
Speaker 3: of Christmas. Here you Nadia today, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.

2073
01:36:33,173 --> 01:36:33,253
Speaker 25: You.

2074
01:36:33,973 --> 01:36:36,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the second of our great New Zealanders of

2075
01:36:36,732 --> 01:36:42,452
Speaker 2: Christmas series. So yeah, problem. So let's get stuck in.

2076
01:36:42,532 --> 01:36:44,812
Speaker 2: How how has the farm gone this year? What were

2077
01:36:44,812 --> 01:36:45,572
Speaker 2: the big challenges?

2078
01:36:46,452 --> 01:36:52,173
Speaker 28: Oh, everything is such a hard game, honestly, not for

2079
01:36:52,253 --> 01:36:54,932
Speaker 28: the faint hearted. Carlos and I feel like this is

2080
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:59,452
Speaker 28: the hardest, trickiest, biggest challenge that we've ever taken on.

2081
01:36:59,612 --> 01:37:03,412
Speaker 28: And we've done a lot of different things in our careers,

2082
01:37:03,452 --> 01:37:07,732
Speaker 28: but it's just really really hard to make it make

2083
01:37:07,812 --> 01:37:11,492
Speaker 28: financial sense farming is I mean, you hear it that

2084
01:37:11,812 --> 01:37:13,333
Speaker 28: you've got to do it for the love of it

2085
01:37:13,372 --> 01:37:16,932
Speaker 28: and for the lifestyle, they say, But there I say

2086
01:37:16,933 --> 01:37:19,372
Speaker 28: it. It is kind of true, like you wouldn't do it

2087
01:37:19,452 --> 01:37:20,852
Speaker 28: unless you really really loved it.

2088
01:37:21,093 --> 01:37:23,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're still really and you still really really

2089
01:37:23,452 --> 01:37:23,812
Speaker 2: love it.

2090
01:37:24,412 --> 01:37:24,732
Speaker 6: I do.

2091
01:37:24,812 --> 01:37:26,293
Speaker 28: It's kind of well, it's kind of like this love

2092
01:37:26,333 --> 01:37:32,093
Speaker 28: hate relationship. It's like all good relationships, right, Yeah, what's

2093
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:32,532
Speaker 28: I mean?

2094
01:37:32,652 --> 01:37:35,852
Speaker 29: So it's stunning whenever you know, we're like I'm just

2095
01:37:35,893 --> 01:37:38,652
Speaker 29: looking outside now, looking at We're surrounded by the mountains

2096
01:37:38,732 --> 01:37:41,572
Speaker 29: and very lush green parties at the moment because it's

2097
01:37:41,572 --> 01:37:43,892
Speaker 29: been a very wet spring, but we've had some good heat.

2098
01:37:44,093 --> 01:37:48,933
Speaker 28: And it's just beyond breathtaking stunning, and nothing beats that,

2099
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:53,732
Speaker 28: Like yeah, sure, sure it doesn't. It isn't the best

2100
01:37:53,772 --> 01:37:57,532
Speaker 28: financial investment really, but it's stunning. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

2101
01:37:57,572 --> 01:37:58,492
Speaker 28: change it for anything else.

2102
01:37:59,013 --> 01:38:01,972
Speaker 3: It's the beauty of Nadia's farm. And I mean both seasons,

2103
01:38:01,973 --> 01:38:04,372
Speaker 3: but particularly seasons. So it's warts and all, isn't it.

2104
01:38:04,412 --> 01:38:07,173
Speaker 3: And I use the word raws specifically because it is

2105
01:38:07,253 --> 01:38:09,772
Speaker 3: it shows all the challenge that you're going through and

2106
01:38:09,812 --> 01:38:11,972
Speaker 3: the things that aren't working right. I mean, you must

2107
01:38:12,013 --> 01:38:15,133
Speaker 3: get some good feedback from other farmers to say, yeah,

2108
01:38:15,253 --> 01:38:16,692
Speaker 3: this is farming in a nutshell.

2109
01:38:17,732 --> 01:38:20,692
Speaker 28: Yeah. Absolutely. I Mean when we first agreed to do

2110
01:38:20,732 --> 01:38:23,012
Speaker 28: the show, we were a little bit apprehensive and nervous

2111
01:38:23,053 --> 01:38:25,932
Speaker 28: as to how it would be perceived. I mean, we

2112
01:38:26,093 --> 01:38:28,213
Speaker 28: talk with a production company and we said, look, we

2113
01:38:28,253 --> 01:38:31,173
Speaker 28: don't want this to be an entertainment show. The reason

2114
01:38:31,173 --> 01:38:32,973
Speaker 28: we're doing this and the reason we've said yes, is

2115
01:38:33,013 --> 01:38:36,253
Speaker 28: because we want to show real farming. We want to

2116
01:38:36,293 --> 01:38:39,772
Speaker 28: show everything, you know, the good and the bad, and

2117
01:38:40,173 --> 01:38:42,612
Speaker 28: it has to be real because I feel like there's

2118
01:38:42,652 --> 01:38:47,372
Speaker 28: a lot of misinformation and miscommunication and misunderstanding between you know,

2119
01:38:47,412 --> 01:38:49,572
Speaker 28: what goes on on a farm and people that don't

2120
01:38:49,933 --> 01:38:53,173
Speaker 28: that aren't aren't involved in farming, and there has been

2121
01:38:53,213 --> 01:38:55,213
Speaker 28: a lot of that stuff happening in the media, and

2122
01:38:56,173 --> 01:38:57,652
Speaker 28: that's what we wanted to do. We wanted to kind

2123
01:38:57,692 --> 01:39:01,973
Speaker 28: of help bridge that gap and actually show what it

2124
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:04,253
Speaker 28: is really like on a farm and the challenges.

2125
01:39:03,812 --> 01:39:04,972
Speaker 25: That you really do face.

2126
01:39:05,133 --> 01:39:07,732
Speaker 28: And I mean, if you've watched this show, you would

2127
01:39:07,732 --> 01:39:13,132
Speaker 28: have just challenge, challenge, challenge, everything going wrong after everything,

2128
01:39:13,893 --> 01:39:16,333
Speaker 28: you know, with some good winds along the way. Like,

2129
01:39:16,333 --> 01:39:21,692
Speaker 28: I'm really proud of our on site farm avatar. I

2130
01:39:21,692 --> 01:39:24,093
Speaker 28: know it sounds really gory. It's a very strange thing

2131
01:39:24,173 --> 01:39:26,972
Speaker 28: to be proud of, and a lot of people will

2132
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:31,692
Speaker 28: have trouble maybe underd I mean I never even ever,

2133
01:39:31,933 --> 01:39:33,933
Speaker 28: ever in my life, thought wow, I was going to

2134
01:39:34,013 --> 01:39:36,692
Speaker 28: one day have like basically you know, a killing shares

2135
01:39:36,812 --> 01:39:41,692
Speaker 28: avatar on our property. But the reason we did that

2136
01:39:41,853 --> 01:39:43,652
Speaker 28: was to kind of try and change up the meat

2137
01:39:43,652 --> 01:39:47,372
Speaker 28: game where instead of animals having to go on trucks

2138
01:39:47,372 --> 01:39:50,013
Speaker 28: and travel long distances you know, to the works, and

2139
01:39:50,572 --> 01:39:53,013
Speaker 28: it's it's a stressful time, like can we do it

2140
01:39:53,053 --> 01:39:55,652
Speaker 28: in the best possible way that we can? And so

2141
01:39:55,732 --> 01:39:57,772
Speaker 28: these animals they live an incredible life, you know, while

2142
01:39:57,772 --> 01:40:00,972
Speaker 28: they're alive, they really truly live betteralized in most people

2143
01:40:01,013 --> 01:40:05,253
Speaker 28: around the world that their free range out on open grass,

2144
01:40:05,293 --> 01:40:07,572
Speaker 28: you know. And then but when it comes to the

2145
01:40:07,652 --> 01:40:11,133
Speaker 28: d day, it's not that pleasant. But we're our being

2146
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:13,412
Speaker 28: on the farm. They never have to travel, they're always

2147
01:40:13,532 --> 01:40:17,452
Speaker 28: at home. You know, it's done so quickly, there's a

2148
01:40:17,492 --> 01:40:20,012
Speaker 28: little little stress as possible. So I know it sounds

2149
01:40:20,013 --> 01:40:21,892
Speaker 28: awful and golry talking about this, but I'm just being

2150
01:40:21,933 --> 01:40:23,652
Speaker 28: real and honest about it.

2151
01:40:23,732 --> 01:40:25,973
Speaker 2: But that's funny that you say that, because awful and

2152
01:40:26,013 --> 01:40:29,013
Speaker 2: glory some much of us. Nearly everyone eats meat, but

2153
01:40:29,253 --> 01:40:32,212
Speaker 2: everyone hides from the actuality of what happens.

2154
01:40:32,772 --> 01:40:33,012
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2155
01:40:33,133 --> 01:40:35,532
Speaker 28: Yeah, and that's you know, that's what Carlos and I,

2156
01:40:35,532 --> 01:40:38,932
Speaker 28: I guess, have always been about, is you know, let's

2157
01:40:39,053 --> 01:40:42,372
Speaker 28: just let's face the realness and let's show things for

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Speaker 28: what they are and how food actually gets to your plate.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So ahead of Christmas, as a farmer of a

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Speaker 3: very big high country station, do you get a bit

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Speaker 3: of a Christmas. I suppose you'll get some time with

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01:40:54,293 --> 01:40:56,772
Speaker 3: a family, but then there'll be farming on the other

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Speaker 3: side of those days as well.

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Speaker 2: Now to you.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, so the tricky with us, I mean a farmer's

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Speaker 28: twenty four to seven. There's not really any day off,

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Speaker 28: especially with our farm because we are so diversified. Oh

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01:41:07,452 --> 01:41:09,692
Speaker 28: so I'm just looking out the doing there's pet sheets

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Speaker 28: walking across the lawn with the dog following them. But

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01:41:15,572 --> 01:41:18,093
Speaker 28: because we've got so we do you know, we do

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01:41:18,213 --> 01:41:21,213
Speaker 28: crops which kind of seasonal, but the harvest will be

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01:41:21,372 --> 01:41:23,772
Speaker 28: on in the middle of summer. So that's Carlos out

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Speaker 28: on the combine harvester full time twenty four to seven

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Speaker 28: for three or four weeks. The sheep we do all

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Speaker 28: throughout the year. And then the chickens they lay eggs

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Speaker 28: every day. Of course, we've got nine thousand chickens. So

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01:41:38,333 --> 01:41:40,812
Speaker 28: I mean, you know, you'll tell them to take a break,

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Speaker 28: take a little holiday. They don't have to lay eggs

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01:41:43,173 --> 01:41:46,133
Speaker 28: on Christmas Day, but listen, they just keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, arrogant. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so what about are you in charge of the

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01:41:53,293 --> 01:41:56,253
Speaker 2: cooking over Christmas? On Christmas Day? Do you take charge

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01:41:56,293 --> 01:41:58,053
Speaker 2: of that or would you allow someone else to do that?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:01,612
Speaker 28: I kind of well, I would allow someone else to

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01:42:01,612 --> 01:42:03,692
Speaker 28: do it because I get the Christmas My Food backs,

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01:42:03,692 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 28: which is genius. So I've got we've got twenty people

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Speaker 28: in total, and I've bought two Christmas My Food bags.

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01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:12,333
Speaker 28: Well actually like my mum bought them. That was her

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01:42:12,372 --> 01:42:16,093
Speaker 28: contribution to save the Christmas. And it's great because you

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01:42:16,093 --> 01:42:19,932
Speaker 28: can trust anyone to take the recipes and make them

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01:42:20,013 --> 01:42:22,412
Speaker 28: up because they're easypsy all the instructions are there, all

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01:42:22,452 --> 01:42:26,053
Speaker 28: the ingredients are there. You don't have to go shopping yeah,

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01:42:26,532 --> 01:42:29,852
Speaker 28: so I'm we're guaranteed to have an amazing Christmas beast

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01:42:29,933 --> 01:42:31,372
Speaker 28: with very little effort, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's good to know because I've just thought in

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01:42:33,053 --> 01:42:39,853
Speaker 2: my food Bad Christmas.

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Speaker 28: That I've tried the menu a few times and it

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01:42:38,772 --> 01:42:41,333
Speaker 28: is so good. It's really really delicious.

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Speaker 3: Here's I'm alo beautiful. How old's arlo? Now, Nadia, it's

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01:42:47,612 --> 01:42:49,893
Speaker 3: going to be too stress Oh gorgeous?

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01:42:49,973 --> 01:42:52,253
Speaker 12: Yeah, little wrap bag.

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01:42:52,933 --> 01:42:54,732
Speaker 2: I've got a Chris, I've got a question for you,

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01:42:55,013 --> 01:42:58,772
Speaker 2: and this is going into your expertise, nadialim as as

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01:42:58,812 --> 01:43:01,732
Speaker 2: a as a chef. How do you stop a turkey

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01:43:01,772 --> 01:43:02,572
Speaker 2: from drying out?

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01:43:03,933 --> 01:43:07,333
Speaker 28: Brianett really good idea to brain it just I mean,

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Speaker 28: if you google Rusty for Brian, you know it's just salt,

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01:43:10,053 --> 01:43:12,732
Speaker 28: sugar water and you could put some spices in it

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01:43:12,732 --> 01:43:17,412
Speaker 28: if you like, like all spice or anything, clothes, whatever

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01:43:17,412 --> 01:43:21,292
Speaker 28: you like, and then soak it in the brine overnight

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01:43:21,652 --> 01:43:23,293
Speaker 28: and that will stop it from drying out.

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01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:26,213
Speaker 2: That I did that last year. It's still dried out.

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01:43:26,213 --> 01:43:29,053
Speaker 2: I don't know what I did wrong. I bind it

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01:43:29,093 --> 01:43:32,053
Speaker 2: for two days. Actually, yeah, I think cooked it. I

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01:43:32,133 --> 01:43:34,692
Speaker 2: think I got arrogant with the over brining and then

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01:43:34,732 --> 01:43:36,893
Speaker 2: overcooked it.

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01:43:37,053 --> 01:43:39,652
Speaker 28: It's I mean, it's just like chicken, no matter what

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01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:40,892
Speaker 28: you do, if you overcooked the chicken.

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01:43:40,973 --> 01:43:43,932
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but there's nothing wor sin seeing your family

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01:43:43,933 --> 01:43:48,173
Speaker 2: pretending that you've that they're enjoying the turkey and then

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01:43:48,213 --> 01:43:49,492
Speaker 2: you just go, I know it's.

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01:43:49,412 --> 01:43:53,093
Speaker 3: Dry and you hear the crunches are biting.

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01:43:52,812 --> 01:43:54,173
Speaker 2: Down so much.

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01:43:54,213 --> 01:44:00,532
Speaker 3: Cramber, exactly, exactly, Nadia. We're loving the chatty. You're right

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01:44:00,572 --> 01:44:02,452
Speaker 3: to hang with us for another few moments. We'll just

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01:44:02,452 --> 01:44:07,012
Speaker 3: take a quick break and come back with some more questions. Yep, brilliant.

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Speaker 3: We are chatting to Nadi lerm chef, author, entrepreneur, farm brand,

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Speaker 3: TV star. You're listening to News talk ed B.

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Speaker 4: This is a news talk saied B developing story.

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01:44:20,013 --> 01:44:24,093
Speaker 3: Yes, in developing news, National Emergency Management Agency says there

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01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:27,853
Speaker 3: is no tsunami threat to New Zealand after a magnitude

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01:44:27,893 --> 01:44:30,452
Speaker 3: seven point three earthquake off the coast of Vanawatu. So

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01:44:30,572 --> 01:44:34,012
Speaker 3: good news. Just repeating that National Emergency Management Agency says

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01:44:34,053 --> 01:44:36,852
Speaker 3: there is no tsunami threat to New Zealand after a

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01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:40,532
Speaker 3: magnitude seven point three earthquake off the coast of van

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Speaker 3: awa Tu it is nineteen minutes to four back very

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01:44:44,652 --> 01:44:45,852
Speaker 3: shortly with Nadia Limb.

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Speaker 1: Maddie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

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Speaker 1: madd Even Tyler Adams Afternoon News Talk sed B.

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Speaker 3: We are chatting to Nadia Limb as part of our

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01:44:57,333 --> 01:45:00,692
Speaker 3: great New Zealanders of Christmas series. Thanks again, we're gonna

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01:45:00,732 --> 01:45:02,972
Speaker 3: chat with us. Nadia all good.

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01:45:03,093 --> 01:45:05,972
Speaker 28: I'm so I apologize about the screaming baby.

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01:45:06,572 --> 01:45:07,412
Speaker 3: It's lovely.

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01:45:07,893 --> 01:45:09,612
Speaker 29: We love on the door.

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01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:15,173
Speaker 2: Two years old is never going to leave momblong.

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01:45:15,692 --> 01:45:17,772
Speaker 28: Outside with the dogs and the pet.

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Speaker 3: Lamb, what a life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, I've got another cooking related question, and this

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01:45:23,412 --> 01:45:26,093
Speaker 2: is quite a punishing question. So beer with me, and

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01:45:26,173 --> 01:45:28,452
Speaker 2: I'm actually going to use this against people. But I'm

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01:45:28,492 --> 01:45:30,452
Speaker 2: a big fan of cleaning as I go. Well I'm cooking.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I've been accused of being more more focused

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01:45:32,933 --> 01:45:35,732
Speaker 2: on cleaning than the actual cooking. What what are your

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01:45:35,812 --> 01:45:37,932
Speaker 2: views on making a mess in the kitchen? How important

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01:45:37,933 --> 01:45:40,372
Speaker 2: it is to clean up? And can a wonderful meal

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01:45:40,492 --> 01:45:43,013
Speaker 2: and a good time at Christmas be ruined by a

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01:45:43,013 --> 01:45:45,372
Speaker 2: massive mess by a punisher in your family that uses

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01:45:45,412 --> 01:45:47,213
Speaker 2: every pot in the in the cupboard.

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01:45:48,293 --> 01:45:51,933
Speaker 28: Well, that's that's the answer is very dependent.

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01:45:51,572 --> 01:45:52,532
Speaker 3: On lots of seconds.

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01:45:52,532 --> 01:45:55,892
Speaker 28: Controversial decides to clean it all up and it's not

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01:45:55,933 --> 01:45:58,492
Speaker 28: going to ruin the meal. But as the purse, if

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01:45:58,492 --> 01:46:00,652
Speaker 28: the easter has to clean it all up there, it

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01:46:00,692 --> 01:46:02,692
Speaker 28: would definitely ruin the meal. Yes, it were.

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01:46:03,013 --> 01:46:05,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, isn't it, Because because the you

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01:46:05,412 --> 01:46:07,892
Speaker 2: can't if you're cooking and someone else's cleaning, you have

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01:46:07,933 --> 01:46:09,253
Speaker 2: to have beg for the cleaner.

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01:46:09,372 --> 01:46:12,892
Speaker 29: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah.

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01:46:12,893 --> 01:46:16,173
Speaker 28: But I think I reckon you've cooked better if you

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01:46:16,333 --> 01:46:19,253
Speaker 28: keep your bench space clean as you go. It's kind

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01:46:19,253 --> 01:46:20,732
Speaker 28: of like, you know, if you've got a messy desk,

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01:46:21,372 --> 01:46:23,492
Speaker 28: you're just not going to do great work. Same kind

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01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:23,812
Speaker 28: of thing.

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Speaker 3: I noticed it when you're on master Chief. Actually, Nadia,

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01:46:26,532 --> 01:46:28,293
Speaker 3: you're one of the better ones that you cleaned as

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01:46:28,293 --> 01:46:30,852
Speaker 3: you went along and it was noticed. I just say that,

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01:46:30,853 --> 01:46:35,652
Speaker 3: wouldn't yeah saying that, I don't know if I was.

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01:46:35,772 --> 01:46:36,932
Speaker 28: I got told off a lot.

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01:46:38,492 --> 01:46:40,293
Speaker 2: Who was edited around to make you look better?

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01:46:40,973 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 28: Maybe? But I think I think I've gotten better as

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01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:47,213
Speaker 28: I've gotten older. You know, being a mum, it's all

2285
01:46:47,253 --> 01:46:49,372
Speaker 28: about efficiency and you don't want to get to the

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01:46:49,492 --> 01:46:51,812
Speaker 28: end of I don't have a big pile of dishes.

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01:46:52,612 --> 01:46:54,652
Speaker 28: So I've definitely gotten better.

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01:46:54,853 --> 01:46:56,732
Speaker 2: But equally, you can end up at the other end

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01:46:56,732 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 2: of you can end at the other end of things,

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01:46:58,372 --> 01:47:00,333
Speaker 2: which I get accused of just having a very clean

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01:47:00,412 --> 01:47:02,652
Speaker 2: kitchen and a very poor meal, and then you get

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01:47:02,652 --> 01:47:04,333
Speaker 2: a close to being more of a cleaner than.

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01:47:06,572 --> 01:47:11,253
Speaker 28: Okay, you can come live at my house exactly. Coming

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01:47:11,452 --> 01:47:12,852
Speaker 28: at my house would be a good team.

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01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:13,333
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:47:13,372 --> 01:47:15,732
Speaker 3: Hey, ahead of Christmas, Nadia, do you have a favorite

2297
01:47:15,812 --> 01:47:18,213
Speaker 3: Christmas song and a favorite Christmas movie?

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01:47:19,452 --> 01:47:21,932
Speaker 28: My favorite Christmas song has always been Jingle Bell Rocks

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01:47:22,013 --> 01:47:24,572
Speaker 28: because it's the real lively, upbeat one that's fund a

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01:47:24,692 --> 01:47:31,253
Speaker 28: dancer with the kids. Favorite Christmas movie probably something that

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01:47:31,293 --> 01:47:33,212
Speaker 28: I can watch with the kids, like The Grinch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well do you go You're you're you're in keeping

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01:47:36,492 --> 01:47:38,732
Speaker 2: with die Heindwood from Yesterday. He was a big fan

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01:47:38,812 --> 01:47:42,532
Speaker 2: of the Grinch, like the animated Grinch as opposed to the.

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01:47:42,013 --> 01:47:43,892
Speaker 28: The animated one.

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01:47:43,973 --> 01:47:45,692
Speaker 3: The animated one, Yeah, not the.

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01:47:45,853 --> 01:47:48,692
Speaker 2: Not the Jim Carrey one with the freaking face work.

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01:47:48,893 --> 01:47:53,972
Speaker 3: Yeah. And have you got a message for New Zealand

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01:47:53,973 --> 01:47:54,772
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five?

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01:47:54,853 --> 01:47:58,372
Speaker 8: Nadia four?

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01:47:58,853 --> 01:48:00,052
Speaker 28: That's putting me on the spot.

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01:48:00,893 --> 01:48:04,732
Speaker 2: Message it's going to be very meaningful and it's going

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01:48:04,772 --> 01:48:07,852
Speaker 2: to no PreCure, bring back productivity to the country and

2314
01:48:08,013 --> 01:48:10,732
Speaker 2: just the general spirit and bring everyone together. If you

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01:48:10,732 --> 01:48:14,492
Speaker 2: could just rustle that up on the spot, that'd be amazing. Nadia.

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01:48:14,692 --> 01:48:18,972
Speaker 3: Keep it real. Yeah, it's very key. We yeah, no, no, no,

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01:48:19,053 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 3: that's good. Has this deeper meaning in that, yeah, just

2318
01:48:22,213 --> 01:48:27,492
Speaker 3: keep it really, there's a lot of layers in there. Well, Nadia,

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01:48:27,532 --> 01:48:31,133
Speaker 3: we've absolutely loved chatting with you. Have a fantastic Christmas

2320
01:48:31,253 --> 01:48:34,732
Speaker 3: and hopefully all goes well on the farm over summer

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Speaker 3: and we'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 28: Thank you. Yeah, you go too, have a great one.

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01:48:39,452 --> 01:48:41,973
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. That is Nadia Lem part of

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Speaker 3: our great New Zealander of Christmas series. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: I've read most of them. Yes, that's good read. Could

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Speaker 2: this bit of the book today, which is about dissatisfaction,

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Speaker 2: because it's a bit of a bummer. Over the holidays,

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Speaker 2: we are at the beach or somewhere, and we still

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Speaker 2: bit of a holiday and we think we've only got

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Speaker 2: this much time off, and we're still hassling ourselves. Yep.

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Speaker 2: something wrong with us, that is just the state of

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Speaker 2: from Wright State University in Ohio, and he explained the

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Speaker 2: condition of being human and this might help people over

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Speaker 2: satisfied because your ancestors who were satisfied didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: The guy who said I'm going to sit out here

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Speaker 2: on the savannah and appreciate what I have alionate that guy.

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Speaker 2: The ones who are constantly incrementally looking to improve this

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Speaker 2: situation did better. Our civilization has outgrown the need for

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Speaker 2: some over ring. We're wiring. The problem is that we

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Speaker 2: still have it. So we have to do our best

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Speaker 2: to learn to deal with our dissatisfaction, acknowledge those feelings

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01:51:06,452 --> 01:51:08,692
Speaker 2: when they pop up, and do something about it. So

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01:51:09,093 --> 01:51:11,493
Speaker 2: the suggestion in my book is, if you're feeling dissatisfied

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01:51:11,532 --> 01:51:16,333
Speaker 2: on a holiday, because you know, it's not because there's

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01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:19,372
Speaker 2: something wrong with you. It's because because you're human. And

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Speaker 2: what you do about that is just to remind yourself

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01:51:22,173 --> 01:51:24,612
Speaker 2: for every now and then that things could be worse,

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01:51:24,692 --> 01:51:27,973
Speaker 2: that things are good. Negative visualization is a way you

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01:51:28,013 --> 01:51:30,293
Speaker 2: can do that. So while you're on holiday, you can

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01:51:30,372 --> 01:51:32,532
Speaker 2: imagine a terrible situation you could be in, like a

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01:51:32,572 --> 01:51:35,333
Speaker 2: war zone or starving or back at work. And if

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01:51:35,372 --> 01:51:36,812
Speaker 2: you do that, you trick your brain and to be

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01:51:36,812 --> 01:51:39,333
Speaker 2: satisfied for a bit, but then you'll be dissatisfied again.

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01:51:39,412 --> 01:51:41,372
Speaker 2: You'll be at the beach and you go, oh, it's

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01:51:41,492 --> 01:51:44,012
Speaker 2: the weather's not perfect, or the accommodation is not perfect.

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01:51:44,013 --> 01:51:45,933
Speaker 2: We're just wanted to be dissatisfied. You just have to

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01:51:46,412 --> 01:51:49,253
Speaker 2: visualize something terrible and you'll feel better.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I feel better already. Nine nine two

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01:51:52,333 --> 01:51:55,652
Speaker 3: just takes punishing to go in the draw. But what

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Speaker 3: a great show we've had today, I've got to.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, absolutely, it was fantastic talking to Nadia Limb.

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01:52:01,133 --> 01:52:04,053
Speaker 2: It was great to hear everyone's business names. And we'll

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01:52:04,053 --> 01:52:06,612
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow with the Great New Zealand as a

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01:52:06,692 --> 01:52:08,092
Speaker 2: Christmas series with Jude Dobson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of books, you wrote a fantastic book this year,

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Speaker 2: and anyway, we'll see you tomorrow Text Punishing to nine

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Speaker 2: two ninety two and until tomorrow and give my tasta

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Speaker 2: keiw yep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we've got a few more copies of that book

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01:52:24,452 --> 01:52:28,773
Speaker 3: to give away across the week. And just a reminder

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01:52:29,013 --> 01:52:32,412
Speaker 3: on Friday, we are gonna have a topical tune. It's

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01:52:32,412 --> 01:52:35,053
Speaker 3: going to be a special topical tune because it is Christmas,

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01:52:36,053 --> 01:52:39,053
Speaker 3: and we also will have the New Zealander of the

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01:52:39,093 --> 01:52:43,492
Speaker 3: Week and potentially even the New Zealander of the Year. Now,

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01:52:43,572 --> 01:52:45,492
Speaker 3: Ryan will bring you up to date with all the

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01:52:45,612 --> 01:52:49,253
Speaker 3: latest in the HIFU, which is a fantastic name, but

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01:52:49,333 --> 01:52:54,812
Speaker 3: that is the half year economic fiscal Report, and he

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01:52:55,572 --> 01:52:58,493
Speaker 3: also will be bringing you the latest on the earthquake

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Speaker 3: in Vanawatu. But thank you very much for joining us

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01:53:02,372 --> 01:53:05,652
Speaker 3: again today. We'll do it all again tomorrow. Have a

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01:53:05,692 --> 01:53:09,572
Speaker 3: great afternoon and juke Dobson on the show tomorrow. Have

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Speaker 3: a good one.

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Speaker 30: Jingle bells, jingle Bell Jingle level Rock, jingle bells Wing

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Speaker 30: and dingle.

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01:53:23,213 --> 01:53:26,132
Speaker 2: Bel snow whether blow win.

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01:53:26,093 --> 01:53:30,692
Speaker 30: Up to so far now the jingle Harper has a

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01:53:32,013 --> 01:53:36,733
Speaker 30: lingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell will rock the jingle bells.

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Speaker 6: Chime in the jingle bells time. That's in your friends

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01:53:40,692 --> 01:53:45,253
Speaker 6: indent jingle bell square in the posting.

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Speaker 26: Fri time, it's the ride time nine way a jingle

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01:53:54,412 --> 01:53:57,613
Speaker 26: bell time. There's a swell time.

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01:53:58,372 --> 01:54:07,053
Speaker 30: To go right in a one wom sleigh Okay, jingle dingles, Jingle.

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01:54:06,412 --> 01:54:07,412
Speaker 25: Around the fly.

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01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:11,532
Speaker 3: Man's dangling jingle.

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01:54:13,333 --> 01:54:23,133
Speaker 26: That's jingle bell, jingle bell shine, jingle.

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01:54:31,652 --> 01:54:37,413
Speaker 4: Fri time, Ride time to that way.

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01:54:38,853 --> 01:54:44,893
Speaker 6: The time well time google lighting in the one go

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01:54:45,293 --> 01:54:52,172
Speaker 6: slide jingle movie, Jingle round the flock.

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01:54:53,893 --> 01:54:59,173
Speaker 30: Then dingle dingle, that's the jingle bell.

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01:54:59,733 --> 01:55:01,012
Speaker 4: That's the jangle bell.

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01:55:01,573 --> 01:55:03,293
Speaker 2: That's the jingle bell bell.

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Speaker 10: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Mattie than Tyner Adams.

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