1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Now only days after cutting the Envicargole to Wellington flight 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: in New Zealand has reduced capacity on four more routes. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: One flight from Queenstown to christ Huge will move to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: a smaller plane, Deneanan to Wellington will move to a 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: smaller plane. Christ Chuge New Plymouth will lose three flights 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: and blend them to Wellington will have a flight moved 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: later in the day. In New Zealand's domestic general manager 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: Scott Cars with us. Morning Scott, Good morning, hell, what 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: is going on with you guys? 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, this is just normal practice for us and fairly 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: difficult circumstances, to be honest, I know we've got a 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: lot of care and planning into ensuring our domestic network 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: services our communities across the country effectively, and as a result, 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: we regularly review our schedule and make some adjustments here 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: in there to make sure it's for purpose. In this case, 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: you know, we've got a lot of cost increases and 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: demand softening missions with aircraft, and so we're having to 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: right size some markets to make sure we continue to 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: deliver a sustainable service to those communities. 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Okay, mean, obviously some of this is about the routes 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: not making enough money. But has have the engine problems 22 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: got anything to do with it as well? 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? It does. I mean these engine problems cascade down 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: through our fleets. So if we have a problem with 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: our A three twenty narrow body fleet, sometimes we have 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: to use atrs to fly those services, and that means 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: we've got to find those aircraft from other parts. So 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: it is it's a problem that spreads across the entire 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: business that we're trying to resolve. 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: Here, you're doing this only next year, right, this is 31 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: stuff that kicks in in February, January, February or so on. 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Does that mean can I read into that that you 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: were expecting next year to be even tougher. 34 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: No, this is really about planning. It's about making sure 35 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: we get these things into market as soon as we can, 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: and also practically just sort of understanding we have people 37 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: booked on those services, so you know, changing people's travel 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: plans too early to be highly disruptive, and so you know, 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: these are good, good decisions that we have to make economically, 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: but we are delaying those changes until after the school 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: holiday break just to make sure that we actually aren't 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: disrupting too many people, and we get all our people 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: at pilot's crew, etcetera in the right places. 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Is what's the end of it? Or is there more 45 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: to come? 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Look, I wish I had a crystal ball that could 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: predict the future. Hither it is. You know, these are 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: trying times. Costs up, as I mentioned before, demands down 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: and you'll be well aware of things like government travels 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: down about thirty percent across our network. Pay If that 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: continues indefinitely, then we might have to make some more changes. 52 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. But then again, if it bounces back, 53 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: hopefully we can get more aircraft in the year will 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: be You know, we've got a strong commitment to growing 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: our domestic business that has not changed in a long time. 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: We do understand that domestic flying, connecting New Zealanders to 57 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: each other and the world is part of who we 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: are as a brand, and we want to do that, 59 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: so we want to continue to grow. It's just we're 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: going through a bit of a lull here, as I say, 61 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: where costs and demand are not moving in the right 62 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: direction for us. 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Scott, thanks very much, best of luck with everything at 64 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Scott car In, New Zealand's General manager of domestic For 65 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: more from the mic Asking Breakfast, Listen live to news 66 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the 67 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: podcast on it on radio