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Speaker 1: There be sixteen past dight. Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Jinny Jerry Browne speaking of scrutiny week. He wants security

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Speaker 2: Look, I think it's important that those discussions are taking place.

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Speaker 2: We already have the ability through Parliamentary Security to carry

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Speaker 2: They can as fast as they can. So well all

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on it? Mark guards and detaining

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Speaker 3: My staff had to use the Jerius alarm about two

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Speaker 3: we shouldn't be cavalier about that. I know that we've

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Speaker 3: I had an incident, if you want a couple of examples,

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Speaker 1: Unreal. What sort of car do you drive? Jinny as

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Speaker 2: It is a Holden barrina.

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Speaker 1: It is a barina?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do you have more than one of them?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't have You had it resign writed recently with

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Speaker 1: your face on the back door? Or is the face

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Speaker 1: one the new one?

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Speaker 2: The non face one has been like that for a

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Speaker 2: better year okay, because.

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Speaker 1: You're parking on the footpath and I'm just looking at.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: That's a funny Christian there because the person who packs

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Speaker 2: in my car pack is that the person in the

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Speaker 2: pres and takes the photo. So here's a local guy

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Speaker 2: who packs in my car pack and then takes a

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Speaker 2: photo of my car.

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Speaker 1: Do you need to activate your dongle?

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Speaker 2: Probably it was because it's it's a repeat offender who

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Speaker 2: packs in my car, waits till I pack to go

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Speaker 2: into my office of grads and stuff. Pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: You go in behind him and then he takes a photo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happens. What sort of assholes that yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 1: And what do you do about that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: You smiling, you know with his But when you've got

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Speaker 2: a short period of time to go get some papers

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Speaker 2: and get your meeting or meet someone and he's nowhere else,

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Speaker 2: I just usually sit there run in. But I won't

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Speaker 2: be doing it anymore because they clearly are sitting and

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Speaker 2: waiting to take a photo, and you have some fun

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Speaker 2: with it, and that's part of being an MP to

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Speaker 2: deal with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, targy on the foot path is probably not a

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Speaker 3: good idea.

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Speaker 2: Jilly, Well, it is, like what that photo doesn't tell

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Speaker 2: is it's an industrial zone. It's the street, so that's

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Speaker 2: further up the street. You've got cars all parking up

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Speaker 2: there because it's not a typical area that pedestrians used.

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Speaker 2: It's an industrial zone with a whole Hopes operating. But no, look,

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done it. It was silly, But I

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Speaker 2: do get frustrated that I'm pretty sure that the person

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Speaker 2: who illegally packed in a private car park paid for

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Speaker 2: it by what I buy prountary service in my office

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Speaker 2: parks there, then pops out and snaps one when I.

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Speaker 3: Hope the Greens aren't going to take your car part.

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Speaker 3: That is so true.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you guys, catch up next week. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: it very much, Jimmy Anderson, Mark Mitchell A twenty one.

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