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Speaker 2: Indie pop artist Lisa Crawley, who makes portraying vulnerability and
Speaker 2: songwriting seam effort list. Lisa has built a career as
Speaker 2: a multi instrumentalist and in demand session player and songwriter,
Speaker 2: spanning multiple continents, four Silver Scroll Award nominations and countless
Speaker 2: countless live performances. Lisa has a new EP that's just
Speaker 2: come out today called New Girl Syndrome and where a
Speaker 2: focused single. Call it a Night and Lisa Crawley joins
Speaker 2: me Now Lisa.
Speaker 3: Today, Hi Tim, nice to see you.
Speaker 2: Yes, we actually go back away because you're sort of
Speaker 2: ready for overnight success having been in this business for
Speaker 2: quite a while, haven't you ready?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For ever an emerging artist?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long ago was it? Should we even mention
Speaker 3: how long?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Let's just leave it, keep it, keep it to ourselves.
Speaker 5: They really need to go. No, you can go through
Speaker 5: Facebook and find those.
Speaker 4: Really don't really want to encourage them to do that.
Speaker 3: But nice to see you again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you tell me how do you like to describe
Speaker 4: yourself as an artist?
Speaker 5: I would say that I am a singer songwriter that
Speaker 5: sort of falls into the indie pop world that's heavily
Speaker 5: influenced by retro music over the years and the instruments
Speaker 5: that have played. And yeah, I would say that I
Speaker 5: have reinvented my musical life a couple not life, but
Speaker 5: I've traveled with music and managed to do that my
Speaker 5: whole life. So and I am always striving to write
Speaker 5: a better song.
Speaker 4: So is that the.
Speaker 2: Secret to keeping going is that you've always got this
Speaker 2: You're always striving for something new. I guess the simple
Speaker 2: question is are things going as you planned it when
Speaker 2: you're first starting getting involved in writing your own music
Speaker 2: and performing?
Speaker 5: In some ways, I in some ways things are not
Speaker 5: how I might have planned it. That translates to my
Speaker 5: whole life and not just music. Yeah, you know, we
Speaker 5: always have these ideas and my upbringing, I thought certain
Speaker 5: things that maybe didn't happen, But sometimes you have a
Speaker 5: better result than what you thought might might happen. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's different things I need to remind
Speaker 5: myself that hey, the younger, your younger self would have
Speaker 5: been thrilled to hear that you're playing at this place,
Speaker 5: and you know, surviving as a musician on the other
Speaker 5: side of the world in one of your favorite cities.
Speaker 2: Because your CV and we work and the people you
Speaker 2: work with. It's the sort of stuff of dreams in
Speaker 2: a way. But I guess it also it's hard work,
Speaker 2: very hard work, really hard work. Do you think people
Speaker 2: realize that or not? You just have to sell the
Speaker 2: sort of dream and that's part of the buzz.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I I think I'm pretty well. I
Speaker 3: like to perform.
Speaker 5: I mean I love performing, and that's never changed. And
Speaker 5: the different environment there's always gonna be different environments even now,
Speaker 5: like in Los Angeles and playing such a variety of places.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if I'm selling an idea of
Speaker 5: a dream. I feel like I think people now appreciate
Speaker 5: more than ever the honesty of.
Speaker 4: I mean follow I mean following the idea of a
Speaker 4: dream or something. And I don't know. It's just tons
Speaker 4: of way of asking a question.
Speaker 2: But there's the dream of the music, then there's the
Speaker 2: hard slog and then moments in between you have these,
Speaker 2: you have the great times as well, have the.
Speaker 5: Great times that sort of keep you going. Yeah, sometimes
Speaker 5: I have questioned if the we call it the slog
Speaker 5: is too much. But yeah, I think I'm in a
Speaker 5: place now, especially after the last five years of being
Speaker 5: in America. Moved a month for the pandemic, so I
Speaker 5: started over, and now I'm reminding myself that I'm performing
Speaker 5: in places that I really wanted to play when I.
Speaker 3: First moved there, or before I moved there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's always something around the corner. You're like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: you know, funny I was doing this or that. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I had so many great moments and a great musical
Speaker 5: career overseason, and it's great to come back and play
Speaker 5: here as well.
Speaker 2: What's the fun stuff? Because you're a solo artist, But
Speaker 2: do you how do you find collaborating?
Speaker 4: Is that sort of.
Speaker 2: Something you absolutely love or is it I'm going to
Speaker 2: put up.
Speaker 5: With such and such now It's both and when I've
Speaker 5: really loved I've always liked collaborating. I went to Avondale
Speaker 5: College in west Auckland and I first joined my first
Speaker 5: band and when I was about fifteen there and that
Speaker 5: I wasn't the main I guess.
Speaker 3: Main songwriter or singer.
Speaker 5: I was a new addition to the band and that
Speaker 5: was my sort of my first taste of collaborating in
Speaker 5: a band setting. But from there, from traveling, I really
Speaker 5: found a lot of joy in doing my solo stuff.
Speaker 5: And then along the way there's been different bits and pieces,
Speaker 5: joining Rodney Fisher and being as playing keys for other
Speaker 5: artists and whatnot. But yeah, I think that where I'm
Speaker 5: at now, there's a lot of collaboration that I'm involved in,
Speaker 5: but I'm also did the hard work in the last
Speaker 5: few years in America to really now refocus on my
Speaker 5: own stuff and trust my own songs.
Speaker 4: What's the bread and butter for you?
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm on a I'm an alien over there.
Speaker 5: I'm on a visa where you have to work in music,
Speaker 5: so end up times nervous times, Yes, indeed, so well,
Speaker 5: my bread and butter is using the skill of knowing
Speaker 5: about three to four thousand songs and having people ask
Speaker 5: for that song on the spot and me having to
Speaker 5: be able to play it.
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, you can recall thousands of songs.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're all going to be like.
Speaker 4: You're not going to have exactly the right quarter.
Speaker 3: It's over the year.
Speaker 5: But so my bread and butter is, yeah, and I
Speaker 5: used to sort of be not embarrassed, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is you know, but it's such a great way
Speaker 5: to learn the songs and the craft of songwriting as well.
Speaker 5: So now I for work and I do call it
Speaker 5: work over there if I'm doing one of those gigs,
Speaker 5: so all requests from the audience.
Speaker 4: That's that is an amazing memory. But I guess.
Speaker 5: That it's not that lyrics. You know yet about the lyrics,
Speaker 5: So that's musically, I sort of have a really good
Speaker 5: memory for melodies. Lyrics sometimes a little harder, and sometimes
Speaker 5: i'm site reading and site singing a song on the
Speaker 5: spot to you know, a few hundred people that request
Speaker 5: a song, and so it's better we.
Speaker 3: Say okay, good luck, Lisa. Good But that's just a job.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 5: Kind of this piano piano bar world that's sort of
Speaker 5: taken me to some interesting places. And I also monitor
Speaker 5: how much I'm doing that so I don't can completely
Speaker 5: lose you know, creative motivation.
Speaker 4: As you as well, And so what's the ultimate gig
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 2: What's what's the stuff that gives you your joy in music?
Speaker 5: I think my happiest more recently, my happiest day of
Speaker 5: night in la I've had was doing a launch for
Speaker 5: the last two singles I put out and having a
Speaker 5: band collaborate with me for that because I play. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of great singer songwriter showcases, but you know
Speaker 5: it's it's costly and you got to pay everyone. So
Speaker 5: I'm putting on my own launch makes me really happy.
Speaker 5: And I love writing songs to brief as well, whether
Speaker 5: it's for different TV or movie placements, and you pitch
Speaker 5: your song and I.
Speaker 3: Like the challenge.
Speaker 5: And I work online writing lyrics for people as well
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, so that.
Speaker 2: All helps you are keeping yourself busy. What about this
Speaker 2: EP and actually that even the title new Girl Syndromes
Speaker 2: tell us about that.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's an a lyric in one of the songs,
Speaker 5: and that can stem from a conversation with my friend
Speaker 5: who also has.
Speaker 3: Reinvented her life.
Speaker 5: She's based herself in different places as well, and we're
Speaker 5: sort of talking about this sort of thing you go through,
Speaker 5: being the new person, and how it can be hard
Speaker 5: and also can be exciting, and also you know what
Speaker 5: happens when there's someone newer and there's something shinier comes along.
Speaker 5: And then living in la is a prime example of that,
Speaker 5: but just knowing you're worth and sticking with that. And also, yeah,
Speaker 5: I have lived based myself and did Melbourne before moving
Speaker 5: to LA for five years, and just that kind of
Speaker 5: energy and also you know, in relationships there was something
Speaker 5: new and so it's kind of a combination of those things.
Speaker 5: And the name just kind of stuck into my head
Speaker 5: for some reason. And yeah, it's a lyric from the
Speaker 5: second track on the EP.
Speaker 4: You're going to sing for us this morning, aren't you?
Speaker 3: I would love to sing for you this morning, my
Speaker 3: favorite time to sing.
Speaker 2: And we are with indie pop artist Lisa Crawley and
Speaker 2: Lisa what are you going to sing this morning?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: This song is called what You Can Do and it's
Speaker 5: the first single off the EP. I put it out
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, and this one, I suppose
Speaker 5: was since my timing of moving to LA, which was
Speaker 5: a month before COVID And yeah, I didn't, I didn't
Speaker 5: have a Yeah, I actually full disclosure.
Speaker 3: You got dropped off by a cruise.
Speaker 5: Ship and I'll, you know, for to start my life
Speaker 5: there to get some startup money.
Speaker 4: Wors Now, I didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was just a couple of weeks because
Speaker 5: they would pay for my flight, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well I'll start my life in La January twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: And so then I was going, okay, well I came
Speaker 5: here to do this thing and now I'm only allowed
Speaker 5: to legally do this thing, So oh, well, what have
Speaker 5: I got going on for myself? That's not a song
Speaker 5: Like people always say, oh, that's who you are, but
Speaker 5: that's who you are, And so I suppose it was that.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people found that would have
Speaker 5: been different careers if they can't do their thing, Like
Speaker 5: who are they without their work? And what else do
Speaker 5: you have going for yourself? And sometimes it just kind
Speaker 5: of made me look inward because I was so isolated
Speaker 5: for you know, many of using.
Speaker 3: You there and just going, oh what else do I
Speaker 3: like doing?
Speaker 4: What else?
Speaker 3: Who am I with that?
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the best story, and yes, saying
Speaker 5: you you're more than what you can do.
Speaker 6: So I missed the boat, I miss the train. I'm
Speaker 6: standing alone again, trying to be a friend to myself
Speaker 6: because I got a head thoughts run to the speed
Speaker 6: of light. I give myself right. Wish I could say
Speaker 6: good night when you're far away the clouds come out
Speaker 6: to play.
Speaker 7: And now there's my saying it's raining.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: But you can only do so much.
Speaker 6: Baby, You've got your work outfield.
Speaker 7: And take a breath in fact, go and take to you.
Speaker 7: You want more than what you can do.
Speaker 6: Longing to say no MP wanting to stay home in
Speaker 6: the wrong setting, forgetting why standing alone again?
Speaker 7: Wish and lazzi and.
Speaker 6: Of the show because you get me hind there's a
Speaker 6: party in your mind by her. You don't invite yourself
Speaker 6: child with someone else and you've been here before. Stop
Speaker 6: keeping score. Go play the game. No one's a played.
Speaker 7: But you can only do so much.
Speaker 6: Baby, you've got your work cut out. You got your
Speaker 6: work cut off, and take a breath in fact, go
Speaker 6: out and tact her.
Speaker 7: You are more now what you can do.
Speaker 6: The pedestal you put me on foul down. I'll keep
Speaker 6: my feet on the ground. But you can only do
Speaker 6: so much. Baby, you've got your work cut out for you,
Speaker 6: and take breath in fact, garb and text you you
Speaker 6: want more.
Speaker 7: Than what you can do, and you can only do
Speaker 7: so much.
Speaker 6: Baby, you've got your work cut out for. You got
Speaker 6: your work cut out for and take breath in fact,
Speaker 6: Garb and tact you you want more than what you
Speaker 6: can do.
Speaker 2: Hey, Lisa, thank you so much for that. It's been
Speaker 2: so nice to see you again, but also just amazing
Speaker 2: to hear all the work you're doing. Good stuff, and
Speaker 2: tell us about where people can get hold of the Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, if you want to support us indie artist,
Speaker 5: the best way to buy the EP is from band Camp,
Speaker 5: which is uh, you know, equivalent of a lot of
Speaker 5: streams by buying buying your EP on band camp for
Speaker 5: five bucks. It's Lisa Crawley dot band camp dot com.
Speaker 5: That's at least Crawley dot band camp dot com, and
Speaker 5: that's where you can support artists. Otherwise it'll be on
Speaker 5: all the streaming things like yeah, you know, until I
Speaker 5: press my vinyl which was in the works.
Speaker 2: Good story, Okay, Hey Lisa, great to see you again
Speaker 2: and all the best soon.
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