1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Ryan, parents find it difficult to say no to social 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: media apps because the peers have them too. It's simple, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: they have tantrums. Please help us by supporting a legal band, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: says Rich. Honestly, just because if your child has a tantrum, 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: you give them what they want. That's what's wrong with 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: the world, isn't it? 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Correct? Ryan? Correct? I know you're a childless man, but 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm a father of seven, and I can tell you what. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: You get a lot of tantrums that I have over 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: the years about trying to keep them off social media. 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: It's virtually impossible. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: But you just say, don't buy them. I mean, if 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: they're that young, you don't buy them a phone. 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: You don't buy them a phone, and you give them 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, you've got to set parameters in place, and 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: I always have with television and that sort of thing. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: So, you know, tantrums or not, parents just need to 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: harden them. 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Exactly. 20 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Luxn's getting some flat. Well, they've had the RMA discussion, 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: of course, that's coming tomorrow. 22 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you know, this is significant really when 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: you think about it. I mean, I remember the law 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: professor Jeffrey Palmer bringing in the first RMA in nineteen 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: eighty nine. It wasn't enacted then it was introduced, but 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: they lost the election, so it was enacted by a 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: person who would have read it word for word, more 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: than three hundred pages. The original act was that was 29 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Simon Upton for the National Party. He enacted the peace 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: of legislation and now it's grown to over seven hundred pages. 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, and it's it's not just the volume of it, 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: it's what it's done to virtually everything in this country 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: that you can't do without a permit. Well, I've got 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: to say that Chris Luxon was today doing a selling 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: campaign on what's what we're going to see tomorrow. 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: There will be less talking and filling in forms and 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: more building and more growing. To give your sense of 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: how radical our changes will be, officials estimate that up 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: to forty six percent of consent and permit applications required 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: under the current rmay could be removed under our new 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: planning system based on twenty three twenty four volumes. That 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: represents between fifteen twenty two thousand consents that would no 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: longer be needed. Of course, what it means is more houses, 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: more wind farms, more supermarkets and more roads homeowners will 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 3: be able to build a deck or extend their home 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: without unnecessary costs and delays. Farmers can spend more time 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: on the farm and less time on paperwork. Successive governments 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: have tried to make changes which have ended up being 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: completely unworkable or merely tinkering around their margins. What we're 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: proposing tomorrow will be a game changer. 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Right, It does sound that that's half consents basically wouldn't 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: be needed. 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: Incredible. 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: You can go out and build a deck without having 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: turning it on because you can barely fart without needing 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: a resource. See these days terrible? 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: No, Now what do you make of the cost of thing? 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: Do you think people of tuning out to this near? Well? 60 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: I think so actually, but not the press gallery at Parliament. 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean Chris Luxen sort of announced that, but you 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: heard and then there were no questions on it. I 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: mean I pulled out up to twelve minutes. They all 64 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: talked about Costa, who knew what and when? And Mark 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Mitchell is now coming out and saying that Costa on 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: his interview yesterday on Q and A was talking at 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: a nonsense when he said that he had briefed him 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: on the MC skimming thing in October. Well it was 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: November that certainly, Mark Mitchell, and I've known Mark Mitchell 70 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: every ever since he come into Parliament. He's very much 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: a straight shooter and he's not likely to fudge this. 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: And why would he He said he only knew in November, 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: and I'd take him at his word. And certainly, Chris Luckson, 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: despite all the questioning from the gallery today, talk him 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: at his word as well. 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Costa marked up by blaming by throwing stones at 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: both Labor and National That's right. He should have just 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: lobbed one and he would have had all the right 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: wingers on his side, no one. 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: But did you notice when he was asked the question, 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: did you know was he right in saying what he said? 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: What the minister said? There was quite a hesitation before 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: he answered the question. 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: He was right. Well we're here from hipkins on that 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: soon too on his side of the story. Now our 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: warship's being shadowed by the Chinese fleet. 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a fleet. The Aton naval vessel is 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: the biggest in our complement of goodness only knows how 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: many ships, but not a lot. And now we're being 90 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: followed around in the well, we went into the South 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: China Sea last month and went through the Taiwan straight. 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: Well they're there essentially to look at what's going on 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: with North Korea and the missile testing and what have you. 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: So it will be part of the Five Eyes thing. 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: But the Chinese, I mean, they really do know how 97 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: to let you know that they're watching. Remember they were 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: in our waters, not in our territorial waterers, but within 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: our waters a couple of months ago. Well, here they 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: are a fleet following our one little worship. 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jiffrey Miller about that after five. Finally, 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: this is very sad news because, as you know, know 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: how close they were. Helen Clark's fathers passed. 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: Away, Yes, exactly. It was fascinating. The story about Helen 105 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: Clark and her father, I think is a great one 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: because he was one hundred and three when he died, 107 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: and I was talking to Helen very recently and she's 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: always been down when she's in the country down And 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 2: why he had a dad's side and he lived at home, 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: at his own home, and why he one hundred and 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: three years old. I mean, he had a number of complications. 112 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: But George was a national Party supporter when Helen joined 113 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: the Princess Street branch of the Labor Party and then 114 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 2: went on to become the Prime minister. And apparently George 115 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: had a conversion on the road to the beehive. And 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: obviously if your daughter's a prime minister, you don't want 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: to speak too much about what your background politics would be. 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: No, you fall into mind a beautiful relationship. She would 119 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: go down to why He Booch and make them meals 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: and put them in the freezer like she was a 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: very attentive Yeah. 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: And the thing is, I think always Ryan and I know, 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: having lost older relatives myself. The longer the thea like 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: her dad is, they're all alive and she's in the 125 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: mid seventies. The harder it is, I think on you 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: as a person to lose them. 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Very Soper, that's politics. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, 128 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.