1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Much more money for Orangatamariki and the development of professionalism 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: of Star Forty one million dollars going for what they 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: call long standing gaps, which are training and qualifications. Doctor 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: clear upmode as the Chief Children's Commissioner, of course, and 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: as what is clear good morning to you, good morning. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Do we run the risk of running into the money trap, 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: which is just make an announcement. There's a number, everyone thinks, 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: oh huil, and we never sort of follow it up. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Is the money needed? Will it be well spent? Will 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: things materially improve? Do you think? 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Well? I welcome this investment because it is about the 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: safety and care of children and young people in our 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: ordering and Tamaikey residences. I've consistently been calling for this 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: since I came into my role as Chief Children's Commissioner, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: so I am pleased that the government has listened and 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: take connection in this way. You are absolutely right, though 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: I will be continuing to watch very closely to make 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: sure that this actually translates into good outcomes for children 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: and young people in these residences. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: Could most people see the gaps if they were looking 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: in Is that part of the ongoing problem? In other words, 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: there's a lack of professionalism. There have plenty of good 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: meaning but lack of professionalism hence the lack of traction. 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Well, my team they go into these places regularly to 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: monitor them under the optional Protocol to a GA Mention 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: against torture, and our focus there is looking at what 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: is the treatment and conditions of these children and young 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: people in these places where they are deprived of their 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: liberty and we do that to prevent harm from happening. 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, in many instances we have found that the 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: care and treatment of these children and young people it 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: hasn't been to the standard that we want to see. 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: There has been safety and harm issues and so building 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: this workforce and actually making sure they're equipped with the 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: professional skills that they need to do this really important 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: work but which is often complex, is really really important. 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Goodronie Claire and us to talk to you again, doctor 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Clai Agmot, who's the Cheap Children's Commissioner. 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: News Talks at b from six am weekdays, or follow 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio