1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Welcome along to the morning's podcast. It's today's podcast. Actually, 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: it's the fourteenth of October. It's a Monday, and the 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: year is twenty twenty four. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Mid October. So I went, actually very selfishly, went into 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: a bookstore to see if they had our book, our 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: acc book on the shelf. They did, and they had 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Christmas decorations everywhere, and it dawned on me that, fuck, 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: it's Christmas. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: It is mid October. Yes, she's one hundred percent, just 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: a just about three year changes. And when I say 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: three year changes, mainly from neutral to neutral to neutral. Yes, 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: from Christmas, because it's downhill from here, absolutely down here 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: to October. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Well, because nothing happens in December, you kick everything to 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: twenty five. So soon as you get to the first 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: of December, someone says, are you want to do this? Ah, 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: should we kick this to twenty five? And everyone, invariably everyone, 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I go, yeah, totally, there's kick it to twenty five. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Let's do it next year. And twenty five means February 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: next year. 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: This isn't the problem with the Southern Hemisphere is that 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: because of the way that our Christmas sits, because you know, 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Christmas is meant to be a mid winter inside celebrations. 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: It started as Winter Solstice, so it was a pagan celebration, 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: and the Christians adapted it into Christianity as the Birth 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: of Jesus. Yes, but obviously it wasn't. Jesus wasn't actually 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: born on the twenty fifth of December. 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: How do you. 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: You everything I believe and my whole existence, my whole 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: belief system, my values, everything you have. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: Just this is what he does, rush as he listens 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 4: to one podcast and then comes in and just shedes, 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: hopes and dreams for everyone. He doesn't think about the 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: fact that maybe we've been sitting here thinking that Jesus 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: was actually born on the twenty fifth. 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: Are you telling me that he's not. He wasn't blasted 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: out in a manger by a woman that's never had 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: sex before on a twenty It didn't happen on the 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: twenty fifth. Are you going to tell me that the 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: virgin Mary was in a virgin? 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Not only am I going to tell you that the 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: virgin and Mary was in a virgin that Jesus wasn't 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: born on the twenty fifth of December, but I'm going 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: to tell you that he wasn't even born in zero BC. 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Ah, well, who's making this shut up? 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Then he was born between six BC and four BC 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: on the first of April, which is probably five BC. 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, have killed anyone to write it down. 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: It's not. 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and the reason that they know that is 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: because of what was written down by the Romans and 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Roman scholars at the time around King Herod. Because I remember 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: King Herod was getting rid of the first born males. 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: That was a thing that Herod was up to because 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: he wanted to win more females. I just don't think 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: he was happy with what was going on and with 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Jewish people at the time, and. 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: So killed the eldest. I mean, let this be so 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: so partly. 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Based on the biblical story of King Herod the Great, 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: an attempt to kill Jesus. The King allegedly all did 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the death of all male infants under the age of 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: two who lived in the vicinity of Bethlehem Jesus, an 64 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: event known as the Massacre of the Innocence. 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: It's very hilarisque. 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was actually the real I 67 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: think that's I think I'm on a Christian website and 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: some kind of ancient genocide going on there. 69 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, well, Christmas is coming up. 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: Now. 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: This one saying that he was born between three BC 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: and one A d Okay. The problem is you just 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: one of these websites. Was he born on April sixth 74 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: people saying that Jesus may have been actual Jesus was 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: a person. 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm more I'm more inclined to think he was born 77 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: on April the first. It was a bit of a joke. 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: Maybe that that's actually good? 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Hereful what we've got a lot of Christian do we 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of Christian really particular in this podcast. 81 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: I apologize, I apologize, I apologize. I didn't mean to offend. 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: So when the song sings. 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sorry. 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Jess Jesus Christ was born on Christmas Day? 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: Fucking check that, mate, because that sounds a lot like 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: he was born on Christmas Day. And also one's it's 87 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: you that website or that song. 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Probably bony ed, but also ever more because of Christmas Day? 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: Really boney in do. 90 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: You go to church on Christmas Day? Did you ever 91 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: have to attend church midnight Mass? Was it? Is it 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: the night before? 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: No? Not a religious family. 94 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Did you ever punish your kids by being in the 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: major scene you know when you. 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Commination doctor and to go to church on Christmas Day. 97 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: No, I was just wondering if it actually happened. 98 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been if you went to church ever Christmas? 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Sixties Saucy Susie, you sent you to church the sixties, 100 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Saucy Susie. 101 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: My mother is your mum's names Susie as well? 102 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this Susie sexy so yeah, just like your mate. Anyway, Yeah, 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: we went to we went to church, but it was 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: more of a Nana inspired thing. She was in the choir. 105 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: I don't think we were there for religious reasons. We 106 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 4: were there for more community vibes. 107 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: There to support Nana. 108 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: They're to support okay, Yeah, she was part of the 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: choir there. It was good times. Is this sexy Sauce 110 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 4: Susie Nana? Yeah, I mean mother, yes, okay, like daughter, 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: like mother. 112 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 113 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: Died two weeks ago, actually, Jerry, So that's right. 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: At the grand old age of ninety, just one head 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: away from the century. 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, she was a hotty. 117 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: She was. 118 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, she's a beautiful woman. 120 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Small. 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: They're all small, they shrank, but like so small to 122 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: the point where I'm not one hundred percent sure if 123 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: she was for big, like I'm talking small small? 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: How how tall are we talking here? 125 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: For? 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: What was? What was? What was Lenana's first name? 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Val May? 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: Val? 129 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a hard name. I've got to say Vell. 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: That's it sounds like a thirties movie star, val. 131 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: May Darring val mae veal May is the name of 132 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Dame Ibna Everage's daughter she's always talking about. Val Mate 133 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: is a lovely name. I'll tell you that is the 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: name that you do not hear anymore. 135 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Val May was married to Lionel Orm Lionel, Yeah, val Man, 136 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: Lionel Orum of course of Jacob Orham's ilkage ilk lineage, lineage. 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: And then then they was, you know, they pissed around, 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: they popped out four five actually, then they lost one 139 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: in a motorbike accident, and then my mom and then 140 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: sixty Susie. 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: But they're all hotties, really on my mother's side, all 142 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: of them. 143 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have not so much Lionel Lionel like 144 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: a working man's face. 145 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: Look, I don't hearing it a lot of okay, and 147 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: that kind of like the big year lobes and that 148 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: kind of thing. 149 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: It's like a worlder's bench yeah, yeah, just a lot 150 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: of roofs and stores. 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: That's from Lionel, is it. It's like world. Lionel is 152 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a pretty smooth name. 153 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: It is like Lionel. 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Lionel's parents. I don't know if you know much about 155 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: your great grandparents. 156 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: I don't. 157 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: On that side, Lionel's parents would have thought that they 158 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: were that's a classy operation. 159 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: Calling your son Lionel. 160 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: That would have been a big move in the nineteen 161 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: probably with tilkn thirties. Oh yeah, well nineteen twenties, late twenties, 162 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: early thirties, ifyl flinyls the same age as bell mate. 163 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: When you boys were name me your kids, were you 164 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: trying to give them, like, you know, linel esque names 165 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: to the point where that be you know, a little 166 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: bit suave? I mean, Hugo. 167 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Well, we only had one rule in our Tolsey and 168 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I in terms of our name of our children. That's 169 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: they can't be called the same name as animals that 170 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: she's had. Oh yeah, that's good because she has so 171 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: many animals, because she grew up on a death style block. 172 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: And basically a rural petting zoo. 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially. And so we would go through these names 174 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, no, No, you've. 175 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: Got had a dog called Oscar's quite a good name. 176 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: You can't go Oscar. So you landed on Hugo. 177 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Which was, interestingly, was one of her pets names. Did 178 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: she keep that quiet until I knew that? I knew 179 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: it was an Anatolian shepherd? Have you ever seen an 180 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Anatolian shepherd before? Huge? Google Google Anatolian shepherd. 181 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm on a dog. 182 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, type of dog. They essentially guard. 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Oh, these things they're huge. 184 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: They guard sheep in wherever Anatolia is, and they guard 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: sheep against lions and stuff. They're really brave and they're 186 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: naturally hurting. 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: They heard you, I've seen one of those things. 188 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: So you named your son. 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: He was called Hugo, and that was they Tossy had 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: an Anatolian shep and it used to sit on the 191 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: deck and had a giant chain and in the middle 192 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: of the night, the chain as Hugo moved around from 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: place to place, and he was always barking because there 194 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: were rabbits. 195 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: Out in them. You know, he was annoying. Actually, just 196 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: like my son, learn Frankie. 197 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: Frank You get Franklin, Franklin, Ralph and Franklin. 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: Those are two great names. 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, them after kind of people from the seventeenth century 200 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: and the founders of the founders of America. 201 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I can remember. We named him Ralph, 202 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: and the in laws, you know, the in laws always 203 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: talked that, you know, they and they were both presumed 204 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: that Ralph was a family name from the other family, 205 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: so they blamed So my wife's side of the family 206 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: blamed my side of the family for Ralph because they 207 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: said it must be some stupid Lane name. And then 208 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: my family were like, it must be some stupid Gibbons. 209 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: There was neither. 210 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: And then at the time, my father was a GP 211 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: in Brown's Bay. He was filling in and he just 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: just out of curiosity, he went on to the database, 213 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: the medical database and nor Shore just to look how 214 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: many Ralph's have been born in the last twenty years. 215 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: None the last name that's Ralph to be born. And 216 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: the Norse Show was like thirty five years. 217 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Before our so it was very what you're after. 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: We actually our technique was looking at the credits in 219 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: movies and TV programs and just going through all the 220 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: names that come there too, And Franklin, I just wanted 221 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: a son that I could do Frank the tank with 222 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: and smash beers withth and say I'm Frank the Tank. 223 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: So I quite like the name Frank. But just the 224 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: middle ground was we can't just called Frank as Franklin 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: was a bit more kind of. 226 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: You can't be called Frank hunder Ten. 227 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, Frank short for Francis as well, isn't he? 228 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, So he's Franklin's Yeah, he's Franklin l 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: a like Franklin Roosevelt Turtle. Yeah, and it's l I 230 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: in or y l I in Franklin. Why in Franklin Road. Yeah, yeah, 231 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: Franklin Road and Franklin District. I was going to call 232 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: him Rodney, but I prefer the Franklin district of the 233 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Rodney district. 234 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: Where does Michiga come from? Jerry? 235 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: I was looking at the Personal column and the New 236 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Zealand Herald, you know where where you can get escorts, 237 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: and I saw that because it was going to be 238 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the candy candy. I did look at summer or Mushka. 239 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: I was I think mishka it actually means it means 240 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: a little beer in Russian. That's whatsa means. But as 241 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: she grows taller than Tulsa as she is now. I 242 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: really she's not going to be a little beer. She's 243 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: going to be a reasonably tall woman. 244 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: You gonna hurt sex foot you again? 245 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think so. 246 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 3: Thats five eight, I am sure. And it's quite tall, 247 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: isn't she? 248 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: Yes, who saw the Family of Monsters. 249 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: So it is not like crazily tall for a. 250 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's same one as me. 251 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: I was talking about you on aren Zi Rady in 252 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: New Zealand on the Weekend Action. I'll come back to 253 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: what I said about you in just a moment and 254 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: we're back. 255 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: I was a guest on the Jim Moura Show this 256 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. 257 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I expected it to be a ten minute interview. 258 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: Maybe. 259 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: I went into rin Zen and can I just say 260 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: that that place it's like the back office of a DHB. 261 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: Going into the office, there no sound, completely quiet radio station, 262 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: completely silent, gray walls. You know those you know those 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: gray walls that you get inside of a police interrogation 264 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: room fabric fabruck. Yes, yeah, it's essentially the The place 265 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: that we recorded the interview was essentially a police interrogation 266 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: room with Jim Morra was it a pre recorded interview, 267 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: window recorded, windowless, pre recorded. 268 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: How many producers did Jim have? 269 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: He had just the two. But those are the ones 270 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: that I saw. There were a number that were working on, 271 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: no doubt. In the back office here I ran into 272 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Mark Leishman. 273 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh, that was Mark Leishman. 274 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Good. He's good. He's reading the news on Aaron It. 275 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: He shouted to him and Jim Morra and I said, up, well, 276 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: this is an amazing thing that's going on here. I said, 277 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: this is the tax Wonderdog's team together for the first time, 278 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: and he has no. 279 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: We work together every day, we see each other. 280 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Okay, But I said, do the listeners know that you 281 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: guys are the Tucks Underdogs team? And they said, you 282 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: know what, not a single person has ever texted or 283 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that we did that because Jim Moore 284 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: used to do the voiceover for it, and Mark Leishman 285 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: obviously used to host it with Dexter. 286 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: He was one of the most famous. He was one 287 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: of those famous animals in the country, dex Chester. 288 00:13:59,720 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 289 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: And he had the little handkerchief around his neck, didn't. 290 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: He Yeah, good dog, Dixter, did you so? Churning away 291 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: to Jim Moore, and we're talking about the initial conception 292 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: of the a SEC and I was saying about, you know, 293 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the first time I laid eyes on you and at 294 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: Saint Paul's at a at a cricket practice. I remember, 295 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: I remember it well because you steamed in. You you 296 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: rolled around the corner like Murvehus used to at the 297 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: top of your run used to lame would walk back 298 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to his run. He had a decent sized run up, 299 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: do you don't he'd run back. He'd walk back to 300 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: his run up, and then he never stopped and looked 301 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: and then ran in. He always turned and ran. 302 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite common, I think. 303 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: And I need to build up momentum. I needed to 304 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: build up the momentum. 305 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: That's what this sort of sid on for about four 306 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: paces of the run up at the beginning as it 307 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: sort of you know, turned into it. And and I 308 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: remember describing you as a forty five year old man 309 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: because he had a full five o'clock shit, you were fifteen. 310 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: You had a full five o'clock shadow. And I remember thinking, 311 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: if they not have a policy here where you have 312 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: to shave or anything, and it was like, no, no, 313 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: I have I shaved this morning. But this is what's 314 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: this is what's happened, just in a day's growth. 315 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: I think also, I think it might have been a 316 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: school holidays where we were having a practice maybe because 317 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: oh yeah it was Yeah, because I grew a bit 318 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: of a beard and then rolled in and bowled you 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: those big banana outswingers at Easter Bowl. Yes, I used 320 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: to aim for leg like three league stumps. 321 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Did you prefer bowling from the from the pavilion end 322 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: or from from Graham Campbell's house. 323 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: In Graham Campbell's house in Did you preferred that end 324 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: for some reason? I don't know why. I Now you 325 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: got your five foot bowling at the other end. 326 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Now I got my five for bowling at the Graham 327 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: camp did you Graham Cambell end? Yeah? 328 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: What were you? 329 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: I normally preferred to bowl at the at the pavilion 330 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: in bowling, hooping and swingers, yea. So it was the 331 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: opposite of lane. 332 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: Jerry was very upright and his his delivery stance and 333 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: running you imagine how stiff. It wasn't as stiff as 334 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: he is now, but there was an element of stiffness. 335 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: There was a shuffle. It was like a little shuffle, 336 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: little short step shuffle, very open chested, and that's what 337 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: put off most of the batsmen came from a height. 338 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: It came from a height, and it was all arms 339 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: and legs. I wouldn't say you'd model your your Do 340 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: you really. 341 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Think it was that ugly? My action was that, well, 342 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: you you like. 343 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: To think it was you modeled off Richard Hadley. 344 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Well, I could bowl like Richard Hadley, but I think 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: by that stage I changed. I was modeling myself on 346 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: what's a macrom at that stage? 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: And interestingly, I wish there was some video footage of 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: those days because that you were like, there was this 349 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: macream and then there's a little bit more Carl Recaman, 350 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh really, no, not that bad, not bad, maybe Paul Rifle. 351 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I interestingly sat beside someone on Saturday night at this 352 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: function that I went to at some pools, and it 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: was a guy and I looked up on the on 354 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the thing and he introduced himself as Kent. I was like, Kent, 355 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: how's it going good? I felt like I thought it 356 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: was a familiar kind of a face, and we were 357 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: chatting away and then there was the main was served, 358 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: and then there was a speech and stuff, and then 359 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I looked up on the on the board and I 360 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: had all of the people at your table, and I 361 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: saw a surname was Curry, and I was like, I 362 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: remember a guy at Boys High that we because I 363 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: played for me and Lame played for some pools and 364 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: he played for Boys High. And I remember a guy 365 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: from Boys High who was I'm sure it was called 366 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: Kent Carry, I thought, but maybe I thought maybe he 367 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: was in the first fifteen, maybe played rugby, and I 368 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: just remember him anyway. I said to him, did you 369 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: go to Boys High? And he goes, yes, and you 370 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: got me out when we played some pause, I was 371 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: your third victim of how many did you get? Six 372 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: or whatever? I was like, I was like, that was 373 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: He goes, you bowl very well. That thanks very much 374 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: for that. I said, it never got any better than that. 375 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: That was as good as good as it gets. But 376 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: he told quite an interesting story. 377 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: Has lived with him for that many years. 378 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he remembered it. Shit, he remembered it. I was like, oh, 379 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: it's good, it's good that you remember that. But he 380 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: said that the night before. And I didn't know this 381 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: because I always just thought it was just the it 382 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: was just a day when things were going right for me, 383 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: and that I genuinely felt that day the only time 384 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: in my life bowling that I was going to take 385 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: a work at every single ball. I thought, I genuinely 386 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: as I was running, and I thought, I wasn't thinking 387 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: about about bowling three balls and trying to get a 388 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: work at or bowling dots. I was genuinely trying to 389 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: get every person out. And I felt like I could 390 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: put it exactly where I wanted to put it the 391 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: one day it happened in my life. But he he 392 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: said that the night and I thought that was because 393 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: of me, But he said the night before, the day before, 394 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: they had one of the guys who had been playing 395 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: in their team in and out. He was also on 396 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: the second leven died. Really yes, and so they said 397 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have even really played the game because they 398 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: were reeling off the back of the fact that this 399 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: person had died and really put a dampner on my performance. 400 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: I've got to say I can remember, particularly remember that 401 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: game when you were down at fine leg, you were 402 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: creep me from wrong. Were you practicing how to send 403 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: batsman off? 404 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: He mentioned this, He were like down and funny. He 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: mentioned it that I was doing the celebration with every work, 406 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: and I took them like Ian. Both of them used to, 407 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: and both of them used to take a dance in 408 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: the face of the person who. 409 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: I remember that. 410 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: I was doing. My mom still says that it was 411 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: one of the most embarrassing moments of her life. She 412 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: said she was quietly I'd take a week and she'd 413 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: be pleased, and then she said it was all undone 414 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: with every single time I would do that stupid dance. 415 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: So you took a six foot at a few funeral. Essentially, 416 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: it was the way celebrated. 417 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: Like both of. 418 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Them fear I had no idea, that's feel, but that 419 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: had happened how he's supposed to know. But they got 420 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: off to a fly. They were. They were none for 421 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: thirty odd. 422 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: That's because I opened the bowling ge lame. You sprang around. 423 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: God got pippered. None for thirty they were none for thirty. 424 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: Is that a fly off? 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 426 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: Those days off like off like six overs, maybe forty odd, 427 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: and then they were all out for ninety nine. 428 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: You've always gotta play some real cricket. Come on, none 429 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: for thirty. No, there was still fly. 430 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: This was days. But he said to me that that 431 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: they were cocky going into that game. He said that 432 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: they thought they were going to absolutely drill us. They 433 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: thought they were rubbish. And then and then he said 434 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: that the three years that he played in the first 435 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: eleven I think he said it was three years. Was 436 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: he your age? 437 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 438 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: And the three years that that that this guy played 439 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: in the first even though he never beat some pauls. 440 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's good. 441 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: Certainly bet us in rugby. But that's another story. 442 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: Did you play a full season with the St. 443 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: Paul's team or would you just play against other schools 444 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: every now and again or do you play a full 445 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: We played. 446 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: In the men's senior A competition, right, okay, so we 447 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: played a lot together. 448 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: It's good that you can do that up here. You 449 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: can't really do that. 450 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: All christ real happy hunting Groundneath that, that's that senior 451 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: cricket scene because it's just abusing middle aged men. 452 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: You just get to know, get to know everyone. 453 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: I used to love it because we were made to 454 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: do it because it was we're part of school, so 455 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: we'd have to turn up. We'd be hungover or well 456 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: I would be anyway. And these middle aged dudes who 457 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: are just battling away pretty much like I am. Now 458 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: we're playing senior cricket and I'd just be in slaps 459 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: game's look at you. Do you hate your family that much? 460 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Are you running away from life that much that you 461 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: give up a whole day to play a bunch of 462 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: wounding kids, a bunch of wounding kids? And what you say? 463 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: You heard me like? I was like, why would you 464 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: do this to yourself? We have we have to be here. 465 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: If we don't, we get like detention or something, we 466 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: don't turn up. You've voluntarily come out here to get 467 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: your fucking asses handed to you by a bunch of 468 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: seventeen year olds, and they're like, fucking little shit, loser, rare, 469 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: get clean, bolt to see your buddy, wife and your kids. 470 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: I was the biggest asshold. 471 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: As a man that still now plays Last Man's Stands Cricket. 472 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: I hope you can piure when you go at the 473 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: bed next time. I hope you can picture in young 474 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: Mike Lane and the slip cord and they're just giving 475 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: yourself some assholes for being there, wasting your time with 476 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: your family's life. 477 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: The thing is the Last Man Stands, it's just full 478 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: of people like me. Yeah so, and it's only two 479 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: hours of the day. I can't play a full day cricket, 480 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: but I can't curry. He actually, I mean you wounded 481 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: him so much with those three years of cricket where 482 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: you humiliated him. He started the Kindred Cricket Club, which 483 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: is this cricket group of cricket clubs around the country. 484 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: Who you know, it's like Clifton Cricket Club. Oh, the 485 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: said in Cricket Club, which she helps start all around 486 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: the country. There's these Kindred kind of basically clubs of 487 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: do two want to play cricket, love the game, and 488 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: they do a Kindred Cup every year, the Wanderers down 489 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: in Wellington for example, Willows and christ Church. So he 490 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: started that, so did so. He was he was suffering 491 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: so much from those years of humiliation at high school 492 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: that he went and started a whole competition to basically 493 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: enhance the spirit of the game because he was so 494 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: wounded by it. 495 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think he feels like he did it, he said. 496 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: He did a lot of sledging, much like you. Because 497 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: they played in the Senior A competition as well. Yeah, 498 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: so I remember we we we played them and we 499 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: beat them in the senior a thing as well, and. 500 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: My favorite competition. 501 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: He said that. He said that he was in the 502 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: slips and he was, he was sledging Neil Parlaine, who 503 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: was a guy went on to play. Parlaine went on 504 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: to play for nd He was a very good player 505 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: at our age he was he was Lane's year and 506 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: and then he said he's sledging him. And then next thing, 507 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Parlaine nicked one and he's at first stop and he 508 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: dropped it. And then he said he moved. They moved 509 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: him to midwicket because he was because they were like 510 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: pissed off at him. He moved to midwicket as Neil 511 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Pauline Sending's got underway. And then Neil Plane had another 512 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: one til and he dropped him again. He said he 513 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: dropped him twice. Did you boys play any cricket after 514 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: high school? Or was it all when some pols wrapped up? 515 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: There was about it, Yeah, but club cricket, but that 516 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: was really about it. 517 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: It's never as fun that that never is his first 518 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: living cricket as the I reckon and dance is the 519 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: same thing too, as the most fun cricket you ever play. 520 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: I one of the funnest games was that boys boys 521 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: high game senior cricket. And by that stage, I think 522 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: it was the end of the year. I'd left school. 523 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: But you still have to play this season. So I 524 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: left school. But and so I did a whole over 525 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: of Comedy Comedy Bowl. So I did Murth hughs So 526 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: because I did a big murder, did Peter May, you 527 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: know how Peter May? And you know I did Jeff Thompson, 528 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: And I'll never forget I did Jeff Thompson. 529 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: Slang it. 530 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: It was so wide and it seemed back. Craig Bullock 531 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: shouldered arms and it took the top of a star. 532 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: The celebration basically involved the entire team rolling around on 533 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: the ground lasting he. 534 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Said this carry was saying, he goes. It was you 535 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: guys used to get most stuck into me and Bollock 536 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: and then he said it. And also you'd heard that 537 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: I'd been to fire Cats and so and so every 538 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: time I went in he Goes, you'd hear Lane would 539 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: be saying, that's Luba marp. Come on, let's slip one fast, 540 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: come on, let's house, that's good gear. It was, It 541 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: was very It was It was an entertaining evening chilling 542 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: to him about that sort of stuffing. 543 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: Carry what's up to now? Anyway, I think he's choosed 544 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: to see you have the Chiefs. 545 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs. I think he's involved development for 546 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. If I was the Chiefs, I would check 547 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: on how much time he spends on the Kindred Creit 548 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: Club and work hours, just throwing it out there. Anyone 549 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: from the Chiefs organization that's maybe just check how what's 550 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: going on there, because he spends a lot of time. 551 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: We're still punishing him. 552 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to see him soon because they're organizing the 553 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: five day Test match. It's going to be at Saint Paul's. 554 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: It's the November eleven versus the Siddon Cricket Club all 555 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: for November. It's happening mid November. So I'm going to 556 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: head down there and we play a game on the 557 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: Friday night. ACC played T twenty game against I think 558 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: they're trying to get the Chiefs T twenty team together 559 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: because we played the tunny Far last year when we're 560 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: up Northland played at common Oble and we played the 561 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: tunny Far T twenty team. 562 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: We won, but as the first ever ACC you won, yeah, 563 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: and they never won key to success. Yeah, new team 564 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: ten imports. 565 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I captain ten players I've never seen before in 566 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: my life and they were awesome. 567 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Jason Hoyt often opens the banning for the 568 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: ACC and I got to say that's an absolute disaster. 569 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, people, he is, in terms of limited overs cricket, 570 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: the worst person you could ever have coming and opening 571 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: the banning. 572 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: Do you know I've played three games for the SEC 573 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: eleven now and every single game has gone just the 574 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: exact same. 575 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: I know, as we as well. 576 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: First we drop about fifty catches in the field, we 577 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: go for about I'm looking at you, pants Pantsman. By 578 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 4: the way, Pantsman dropped how many catches did you drop 579 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: under the high ball? 580 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: At least he got to them, though, because a lot 581 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: of people were running away from the ball. Myself included, Yeah, 582 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: I think did you drop three pence? Men? 583 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: I think I dropped three or four. 584 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: But it's a shame because literally, the one thing I'm 585 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 5: kind of good at is catching. I grew up playing 586 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 5: ten twelve years of cricket. The one thing I was 587 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: good at was catching. And then I just realized these 588 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 5: balls are going fifty minutes in the air, and I 589 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: was just missing them horrendously. 590 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, you Bob with a bit of fire. 591 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: But we just put so much pressure on ourselves with 592 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: the ball, don't we. By the time we get to 593 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: the batting time of things, I don't know. We just 594 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: the orders upside down. 595 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: We don't know what well. 596 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Lene always puts Hoytonto as a comp piece of comedy 597 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: because he knows there's going to be something that's going 598 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: to happen. 599 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: And then Gulon puts pressure on himself because usually bet 600 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: middle top of the middle word of four and then 601 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: I'll come at five or whoever it is five, six, 602 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: and then but by the time that we're in, it's 603 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: about the twelfth over and we're having to score about 604 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: fourteen to fifteen runs and over already, and the game's 605 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: already over. 606 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: But also you can always score in TI twenty. You 607 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: can always score fifteen off the last three or four. 608 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: This is the this is the thing. It's you can 609 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: do it. You can't be bowled out on the fifteenth over. 610 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: That's our problem. We get bold out because people panic. 611 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: It's like you can't you can't panic. But also you 612 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: don't want to start badly. We start terribly. You can't 613 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: catch catches and you're going. 614 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: To win a game. 615 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you go. We'll say you can't. 616 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Win dropping eleven catches. No team has ever won a 617 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: game of cricket dropping eleven catches. No team's ever dropped 618 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: eleven catches. 619 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it wasn't our wasn't our finest performance. Also 620 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: playing on an international field as well just made it 621 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: even worse. It's too large and so as a result 622 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: we have got another game against down in christ Et 623 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Hagley Oval, and luckily the November guys are stepping up. 624 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: It's a November ACC combination. Eleven captain by Kiaren Reid. 625 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: They asked if I want to be co captain. I'm not. 626 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm not a big believer in co captain. Se give 627 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: it to give it to Ice Sockets. He's way bigger 628 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: than me. It got way much more manor than me. 629 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: And we're playing todd Estill's team down there. He's got 630 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: a hes got a team he runs down there. So 631 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: we're going to play down there and I think that's 632 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: in December. 633 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to do just before before that 634 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: or what date do you land? 635 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: I'll just get my calendar sort of. 636 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: The invites. Well, at least we no more heat no, 637 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. 638 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a positive. 639 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. 640 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: No more autumn leaves, no. 641 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: More causing Moto running between the wickets that time. 642 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: Oh good, that were good times. 643 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: I remember those. 644 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: Finally, yeah, okay, good time.