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Speaker 2: Hell are you Great? New Zealand's Welcome met A Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number one six four for Friday, the

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Speaker 2: eighteenth of July. If you like this podcast, Hella friends.

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Speaker 2: We had a great chat today about various things. I

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed the stuff on fashion crimes that we finally

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Speaker 2: got to good chat about the eighties and goths, goths

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Speaker 2: and San Diego, and yeah, like lowering, the lowering the

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Speaker 2: voting age, got pretty heated, got very heated, very controversial,

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Speaker 2: pretty hated, and actually got pretty lude. The chat around

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Speaker 2: the Tory far Now situation and the letter and the bloody.

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Speaker 3: Talk of pendulous bits of the human body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty lude. Probably too lude for ZB so lucky

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Speaker 2: it's in the past now and on this podcast is.

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Speaker 3: Talk said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome into

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Speaker 3: Friday Show into the week for most of us. Hope

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Speaker 3: you're doing well. Jesus, good to see some sunshine up

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Speaker 3: here in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: I say that you got yourself a coffee, tyler, but

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Speaker 2: not me. I got your coffee this morning, and then

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Speaker 2: you just got your cell phone and not me.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 2: What do you say about a man that doesn't repay favors.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. They ran out of cream down

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Speaker 3: at the coffee shop, so I know that you if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't have cream in it.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't in it, then I'm not drinking it.

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Speaker 3: Ok Yeah, yeah, you can have some of that, though

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Speaker 3: it's luke warm at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I need something to warm myself up. It's freezing in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see, because I'm pretty sure it's Ryan or maybe

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Speaker 3: there's a bit of fighting going on with the old

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Speaker 2: Well, I've waked it up to about twenty seven again,

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Speaker 2: so it'll be heating up pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's going to be fun afternoon right to today's

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Speaker 3: show after three o'clock, as we always do on a Friday,

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Speaker 3: New Zealander of the Week nominations are open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who will it be. There's a few people that

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Speaker 2: have stood up this week, but nine two niney two,

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Speaker 2: nothing's locked in. If you've got a suggestion for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand of the Week, someone that you think needs to

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Speaker 2: be honored on Matt and Tyler afternoons, then fire it

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Speaker 2: through nineteen nineteen yep.

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Speaker 3: Also, we want to have a chat about fashion faux

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Speaker 3: pas or bits of fashion that make absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 3: So this was after singer an actress Suki Waterhouse. She

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Speaker 3: suffered a hernia and the poor thing because her pants

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Speaker 2: The poor thing, the idiot. If you we have pants

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Speaker 2: so tight that you get a hernia, there are you

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Speaker 3: She was a numskull and I think she said that

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Speaker 2: That's a self inflicted injury. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: those going around fashion fashion crimes and being a fashion victim. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's being a fashion victim. I think that's in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see they do.

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Speaker 2: It's so risky. As I said yesterday when we were

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Speaker 2: What happens if there's a volcano? How do you get

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Speaker 3: You got to think about these things absolutely. That is

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Speaker 3: they will soon give sixteen and seventeen year olds the

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Speaker 3: who made the move to allow sixteen year olds to

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Speaker 2: Well, a load of rubbish, sixteen, there's no way you

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Speaker 2: when they're sixteen. I reckon make it twenty five. I

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Speaker 2: Arguably, as I said before, I'm still an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Strong argument for that, but I was definitely a.

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Speaker 2: Completely idiot up to twenty five. You haven't lived, you

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Speaker 2: haven't done anything. You'll either be voting for what your

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Speaker 3: Tive twenty five. That's going to be controversial, and I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go the other way. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 3: let the sixteen sixteen year olds have their say. At

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Speaker 2: And what you think is sixteen year old's going to

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Speaker 2: think sixteen year olds are going to go look, I'm

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Speaker 2: absolutely going to mail in that vote.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, because that's my logic. The sixteen year

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Speaker 2: An interest, that the ones that will vote are the

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Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. That's after to a clop it right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about what's happening down in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: This is about Ray Chung, of course. So two more

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Speaker 3: candidates have quit has meural campaign as a fallout continues

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Speaker 3: from what was described as a gossip field email he

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Speaker 3: sent about Torrefano detailing a sex and drugs rumor. It

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Speaker 3: now brings the candidates. So we've quit this group this

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Speaker 2: Am I missing something? This is the question that I

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Speaker 2: want to ask, why is this such a scandal? A

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Speaker 2: maybe it's classless. But I don't quite understand why it's

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Speaker 2: Is it really so bad that people need to get

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Why are we even talking about doesn't everyone gossip?

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Speaker 2: Surely it's this is the weakest political scandal yet and

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Speaker 2: it's been going on for a week. Seriously, am I

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Speaker 2: missing something here? I mean, look, if I heard a

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Speaker 2: rumor about Wayne Brown, then I would tell everyone. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we would, and I would expect people in the council

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Speaker 2: to do the same, whether it's you know, sounds real

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Speaker 2: or not. And we'll listen to the We'll listen to

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Speaker 2: the full email, the full email, and it's got all

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Speaker 2: the tenets of something that's not true. But let he

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Speaker 2: who has not gossiped cast the first zone, I'd say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, am I an evil personal or do most

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Speaker 2: people gossip about people at their work? I just want

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Speaker 2: to know what I'm missing here. Have all these people

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Speaker 2: Are they all people that would never gossip, and they've

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Speaker 2: and they've never shared that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's been political rumors since day dot. There's always

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Speaker 3: political gossip doing the rounds and whatever part of the

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Speaker 3: country you're in. Absolutely, and again we will read out

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Speaker 3: the full email. But I would want to know what

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Speaker 3: was said in that email. I suppose that's where I'm

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Speaker 3: coming from, as if I was voting in Wellington, I'd

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Speaker 3: particular email, so then I can make up my mind

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Speaker 3: and think, is this a guy that I want to

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Speaker 3: vote for? Do I really care about this? Of course

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Speaker 3: we all gossip. Is it as much of a scandal

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Speaker 3: is Ray Chung a weird dude? And do I care

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Speaker 2: So what's particularly the allegation against him that's so bad

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Speaker 2: that he's spread a center lude email to undermine Two

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Speaker 2: years ago he sent to lude email about a rumor

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Speaker 2: So that's the accusation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the accusation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe that's not good. But isn't it the

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Speaker 2: mildest scandal in the history of scandals? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And the timing is interesting, Well, it's not even interesting.

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Speaker 3: Clearly it was timed to coalign with his meural campaign,

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Speaker 3: So why wait two years to then reveal that email?

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Speaker 3: But it was about Torri Farno and her word was

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Speaker 3: she felt it was gross. So can you hear from

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Speaker 3: you on this O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: the email now or after the break?

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Speaker 2: Let's read it out after the break.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's play some messages and we'll come back with

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Speaker 3: that full email. It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty What

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Speaker 2: do you think about this whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Ah, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: used talks'd.

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Speaker 3: Be afternoon, sixteen past one. So we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: situation with Ray Chung down in Wellington. His Meyal campaign

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Speaker 3: is very quickly going off the rails. Two more associated

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Speaker 3: with that campaign have now quit over what was called

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Speaker 3: a vile, gossip filled email. So the question we're asking

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Speaker 3: is is the scandal worth? What the content was in

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Speaker 3: this email? And Matt, you've asked what have you missed here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I've asked the question why have I missed? Why is

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Speaker 3: So we're really keen to hear your thoughts on eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. So here is the email

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'll read it in its entirety. It says, hey, folks,

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Speaker 2: Tempestuous, characterized by strong and turbulent or conflicting emotion.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I hear a story like that, I'm going to go,

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Speaker 3: And and whatever I think about Ray Chung, I generally

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Speaker 2: Well, this Texas is a public figure throwing around unsubstantiated. Six,

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Speaker 2: Your gossip about another public figure is really techy in vulgar,

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Speaker 2: He just sent quite odd email to how many people

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Speaker 2: It's a few counselors, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a handful of people.

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Speaker 2: So the email going public was that? Was it Tory

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so at some stage she was left that email

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he wasn't He wasn't just taking that to

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Speaker 2: the media. No, he was sending it within in a

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four past one, and we're talking about the political

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Speaker 3: scandal involving Ray Chang. The latest out today's two more

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Speaker 3: candidates have quit his meural campaign. But can you get

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty this Texas A guy

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Speaker 2: seems like Ray Chung's election campaign has gone a bit

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Speaker 2: soft and pendulous. That's from Mat Yep Yeap. That's interesting

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Speaker 2: this Texas says the basic worth summer so much coming

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Speaker 2: through here. The guys, the scandal isn't this. The scandal

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Speaker 2: of Wellington. That's the problem. None of this matters, cheers John.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people in Wellington would feel that way.

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Speaker 3: I mean the timing. There's a lot of questions to

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Speaker 3: But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: Tim, Welcome to the show. What do you think about this,

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Speaker 5: You good?

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Speaker 8: After Christ?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, uh tittle tattle. You know, the neighbor

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Speaker 5: you know, to his credit, alerted his colleagues because he

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Speaker 5: then one of his trusted acquaintances there has either said

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Speaker 5: and it gets quite grubby, really it really does. Uh

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Speaker 5: you know, I love these people. They live under an

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Speaker 5: to the neighbor, the young men and Tori and see

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that you think Ray

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Speaker 2: maybe he needed to Did he do due diligence on

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Speaker 5: Well you have to do. You've got to qualify something

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And there was there was suggestion of illicit substance use.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he could have done a lot better, and possible

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's fair to say tim she she's denied

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Speaker 5: Well, that is what it is. You've got, you know,

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Speaker 5: And you know all of these, you know, people involved

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it doesn't make anyone look that that great.

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Speaker 2: But my question is who doesn't gossip? Like maybe we

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Speaker 2: a story like that about someone we work with in

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Speaker 2: Maybe we wish we were that kind of person, But

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Speaker 2: who is that person? Who is the person that's out there?

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Speaker 2: And you know, if everything that we texted or messaged

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Speaker 3: We all gossip, and I mean, if you're one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, you sleezy scumbag. Would it be fine for

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Speaker 2: you to send sleezy gossip stamp shade of emails about

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Speaker 2: your mates if they are talented women? I would lose

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Speaker 2: my job if I did that. And as far as

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Speaker 2: from the and I'm as far from the lift as

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Speaker 2: I think as you can get, it's his lance. Yeah, yeah,

444
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Speaker 2: the email part of it is a bit weird. I

445
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Speaker 2: don't know, but you know, I'm not. I don't operate

446
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Speaker 2: in a high stakes area in my life over my

447
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Speaker 2: various companies. It's not very high stakes, right, So maybe

448
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Speaker 2: I don't think maybe he thought it needed to be

449
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Speaker 2: written down and sent officially to the council members in

450
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Speaker 2: a way that I would probably just grab Tyler and

451
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Speaker 2: go to hear what bloody or grab someone else and

452
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Speaker 2: say to you what Tyler was up to. I was

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Speaker 2: just walking my dog and I heard Tyler got up

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Speaker 2: to the weekend. Yeah, I'll probably just say it to them.

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Speaker 3: It's water cooler jat Yeah exactly. Oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Really, can

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Speaker 3: you get your views on this? It is twenty nine

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 9: You talks at the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis, it's

461
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Speaker 9: no trouble with a blue bubble. Customs has seized more

462
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Speaker 9: than sixty kilos of methamphetamine at Auckland Airport overnight in

463
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Speaker 9: vacuum sealed packages insight to unaccompany duffel bags from Malaysia.

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Speaker 9: A Hastings woman who was driving high, intoxicated and its

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Speaker 9: speed has been sentenced to more than four years in

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Speaker 9: prison for hitting and killing an eleven year old cyclist

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Speaker 9: in Flaxmere in January. New Plymouth's mayor is facing the

468
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Speaker 9: music over the city's annual plan leaving out GST, meaning

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Speaker 9: ratepayers could have to fork out one hundred dollars more

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Speaker 9: a year than expected for rates. The Prime Minister says

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Speaker 9: AI will be a major focus of the new Institute

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Speaker 9: for Advanced Technology opening next year in Auckland. Schools across

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Speaker 9: Auckland will be getting close to one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 9: new classrooms costing one hundred and twenty million dollars. Work

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Speaker 9: will start next year. Why Auckland's North Shore is an

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Speaker 9: untapped opportunity to host big events. You can see the

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Speaker 9: full column at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to

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Speaker 9: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean and we are discussing what's

480
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Speaker 3: going on with Ray Chung down and Wellington. Two more

481
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Speaker 3: candidates today have announced they've quit his meyoral campaign. But

482
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Speaker 3: the question we're asking, and we read out the full

483
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Speaker 3: email earlier this hour. We're not going to read it

484
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Speaker 3: out again. But many people have seen it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were angry that we read it

486
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Speaker 2: out at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very angry on that. But the is it

488
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Speaker 3: the storm more than it should be for something like this?

489
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Speaker 3: This is gossip?

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Speaker 2: Are we missing something? Why is this such a scandal?

491
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Speaker 2: Dude heard some gossip and emailed it to a few people.

492
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Speaker 2: I mean it might be weird, slightly classless, as I

493
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Speaker 2: said before, But is it the biggest scam in the world?

494
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Speaker 2: Is it worth going along to events and heckling over

495
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Speaker 2: and the big picture of things that have happened in Wellington?

496
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Speaker 2: Is this really the thing that would get you off

497
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Speaker 2: the couch to go along and heckle someone?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why is it such a big deal? It's weird. The

500
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Speaker 2: whole thing is weird. And the way he writes it

501
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Speaker 2: makes me think he might be a bit of a

502
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Speaker 2: strange individual. And it doesn't read like the truth. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: you know, there's something about the story that's that like

504
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Speaker 2: a lot of rumors you hear, but who doesn't spread

505
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Speaker 2: rumors This Texas says, if the Left was as efficient

506
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Speaker 2: at running a city as they are at last minute

507
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Speaker 2: hit pieces, Wellington would be in good hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and again you've got to ask questions about

509
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Speaker 3: the timing. But just to that point, Matt, it's got

510
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Speaker 3: it all, doesn't it. It's got sex, drugs, maybe not

511
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Speaker 3: the rock and roll part, and that's why people love

512
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Speaker 3: about it. They love it.

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Speaker 2: That's why it stayed in the news because it's got

514
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Speaker 2: enough elements. So it's got a COVID email, so we

515
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Speaker 2: get to read an email that was secret, so that's

516
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Speaker 2: been released, so that's interesting. It's got a scandalous part

517
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Speaker 2: about it, yep, so that keeps it going.

518
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Speaker 3: It hits all of those elements that we love.

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Speaker 2: It's got a defunctional counsel that has been at each

520
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Speaker 2: other's throats yep. And Wellington's in a terrible state, so

521
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Speaker 2: that's the focus of it. So it's just got enough.

522
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Speaker 2: Maybe that the email in itself isn't really a big deal,

523
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Speaker 2: but it's just it's just got all the elements of

524
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Speaker 2: a story that people keep talking about. People love drama. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: ask this question, what do woman think as a woman?

526
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Speaker 2: Not left your righty? So maybe that's what I'm missing.

527
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Speaker 2: I'm not a woman, so maybe that's part of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: of call love to get your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: Please do not read the email again.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, we can prompt you that. No,

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Speaker 3: we won't read that email again. Jimmy, how are you mating?

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Speaker 8: Bhi guys? How are you mate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Good, listen, this was two years ago. Come on, you know,

537
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Speaker 10: obviously good at Maybe maybe this guy change pissed off

538
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Speaker 10: that he wasn't involved. You know, two young guys are

539
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Speaker 10: having a good time. She's out having a good time.

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Speaker 10: I say, good luck. It's old bloody rubbish mate. You know,

541
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Speaker 10: we need to grow up for goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: She's strenuously denied, she's strenously denied that it ever happened.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think anyone's directly talked to any of

544
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Speaker 2: the young guys. So it's it's really what That email's

545
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Speaker 2: kind of third hand from from Ray Chung, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but how many young guys would jump at it?

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Speaker 4: Mate?

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Speaker 11: Just be honest, you guys, take care of have a good.

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Speaker 3: Day, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean but in this alleged situation, I

552
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Speaker 2: mean definitely young guys that would jump at this alleged situation.

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Speaker 2: There's prays about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's the number to call. Plenty of thiks

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Speaker 3: coming through on nine to nine two. We're a little

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Speaker 3: bit late, so we had a place of messages.

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Speaker 2: The text to said, let's face it, he got excited

558
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Speaker 2: over the tea. You know it. He really shouldn't have

559
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Speaker 2: said that, sent that email. But it's defamation, defamation of character, right, Okay, okay, Yeah,

560
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Speaker 2: I mean he got excited about the tea. That's what

561
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Who doesn't get excited about the tea?

562
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Speaker 4: Though?

563
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Speaker 3: Well your gossip, we all spill the tea. Exactly. It

564
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Speaker 3: is twenty two to two.

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Speaker 4: A fresh take on took Back.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons have your say

567
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Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty eight news talks.

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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoonsue. So we are talking about the

569
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Speaker 3: situation with Ray Chung Down and Wellington. The latest is

570
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Speaker 3: two more people have left his meural campaign. It appears

571
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Speaker 3: to be going off the rails. But the question we're

572
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Speaker 3: asking is is this a bit of a storm and

573
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Speaker 3: a teacup?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Why is everyone running for the hills over what

575
00:26:48,653 --> 00:26:52,693
Speaker 2: seems to be a reasonably mild scandal. He sent an email,

576
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Speaker 2: he heard some gossip. He send an email to some counselors.

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Speaker 2: Two years later, someone leaked it, so it doesn't seem

578
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Speaker 2: doesn't reflect well on him, but it's not. There's much

579
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Speaker 2: worse things. As I said before, I don't think I'd

580
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Speaker 2: get off my couch to go and heckle people their

581
00:27:08,893 --> 00:27:11,773
Speaker 2: live appearances over it. Yeah, this Texas says, here's scum.

582
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Speaker 2: I don't gossip. If you gossip, you shouldn't be on

583
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Speaker 2: the radio. Can't believe you proudly said you gossip. I

584
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Speaker 2: don't gossip, my son doesn't, and my husband doesn't gossip.

585
00:27:21,213 --> 00:27:23,573
Speaker 2: Maya talking to people and believing a silly story and

586
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Speaker 2: spreading it is disgusting. You two spreading it further is

587
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Speaker 2: even more disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Wow, is that written by the Dalai Lama that there

589
00:27:33,213 --> 00:27:35,253
Speaker 3: wouldn't be so many people out there that don't gossip?

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Speaker 2: I wonder how many people out there. I mean, I

591
00:27:38,653 --> 00:27:40,973
Speaker 2: didn't say as proud of gossiping, but I said gossip,

592
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Speaker 2: and I think I mean everyone I knows gossip to

593
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Speaker 2: me at some point about something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The idea that no one gossips and no one hears

596
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Speaker 2: interesting stories, and then.

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Speaker 3: That's human nature.

598
00:27:53,893 --> 00:27:55,733
Speaker 2: That the idea that someone would be that pure that

599
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Speaker 2: they never gossip.

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Speaker 3: Really one hundred percent, that is human nature, right, I mean,

601
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Speaker 3: that is what we are biologically kind of designed to

602
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Speaker 3: do with storytellers. But we've got bits of information that

603
00:28:05,613 --> 00:28:08,493
Speaker 3: we think are interesting and we tell that to the

604
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Speaker 3: people so that we go up, you know, we get

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Speaker 3: a bit more status in our community or tribe. That

606
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:15,933
Speaker 3: is just what we do. One hundred percent. We're wired

607
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Speaker 3: to do those things.

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Speaker 2: So this woman says that she doesn't gossip, her husband

609
00:28:19,213 --> 00:28:23,613
Speaker 2: doesn't gossip, and his son doesn't gossip. They must be

610
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Speaker 2: the most pure family in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

612
00:28:29,253 --> 00:28:31,773
Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts on this one.

613
00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:34,013
Speaker 3: We're getting so many texts coming through.

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Speaker 2: It's not about the gossiping, it's the putting it in

615
00:28:37,213 --> 00:28:40,533
Speaker 2: an email without any proof. Bonkers. Just shows the character

616
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:42,453
Speaker 2: of the man, and he shouldn't be mayor thanks.

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00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:44,973
Speaker 3: This one's in a similar vein. Actually, what what Ray

618
00:28:45,053 --> 00:28:48,893
Speaker 3: Chung's email shows is that he lacks judgment. What he

619
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:51,133
Speaker 3: did was beyond stupid. No way would I trust his

620
00:28:51,253 --> 00:28:54,293
Speaker 3: judgment on civil matters, especially at a time when Willington

621
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Speaker 3: needs all the help it can get. Oh eight hundred

622
00:28:58,333 --> 00:28:59,813
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

623
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Speaker 4: Mark?

624
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Speaker 3: What's your viewer about this so called scandal?

625
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Speaker 11: Oh?

626
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Speaker 12: I thought I'd just bring up and have a bit

627
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Speaker 12: of a gossip about gossipling.

628
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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, Man, I haven't read the email. I

630
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Speaker 12: hadn't actually heard anything about or if I what's what

631
00:29:17,253 --> 00:29:19,533
Speaker 12: I have seen on the net, And looks like he

632
00:29:20,293 --> 00:29:21,773
Speaker 12: probably shouldn't have seen what he said.

633
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Speaker 13: And I try not to gossip. I don't, but should

634
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Speaker 13: it's hard work in reality where we're in a community,

635
00:29:29,853 --> 00:29:33,613
Speaker 13: we're in a society. Someone painting that they never ever

636
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Speaker 13: ever gossip. I think it's probably lying. But I'm saying

637
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Speaker 13: that this guy in a professional role going and putting

638
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Speaker 13: something an email, it's a pretty dumb ass move.

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Speaker 2: So, especially since I seen some of those people were

640
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Speaker 2: as enemies, you know, like, it's not. It's not the

641
00:29:52,213 --> 00:29:56,013
Speaker 2: smartest political move. So that kind of falls maybe into

642
00:29:56,053 --> 00:29:57,813
Speaker 2: the way of thinking that perhaps he thought it was

643
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Speaker 2: something that he needed to as he claims that he

644
00:30:00,853 --> 00:30:04,053
Speaker 2: thought needed to be shared with people because people would

645
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Speaker 2: know and there is mention of illicit drugs there.

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Speaker 12: So even if, like everyone in the public public service

647
00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:15,933
Speaker 12: knows that if you put something in writing, someone can

648
00:30:15,973 --> 00:30:18,053
Speaker 12: get their hands on it at some point and it cooked,

649
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Speaker 12: so you just don't do it. Like it's a really

650
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Speaker 12: dumb thing to do. So a politically smarter thing to

651
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Speaker 12: do would have been to use his mouth rather than

652
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Speaker 12: in order to get it out in the right way.

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Speaker 12: But I know, I think it reflects really bound me

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Speaker 12: on him, not just in terms of his actions gossiping

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Speaker 12: and sharing that information. But it's not smart from the

656
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Speaker 12: political perspective either.

657
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Speaker 2: So if you just called everyone at the water cooler

658
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Speaker 2: and said it's working with dog this morning, you wouldn't

659
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Speaker 2: believe what this guy told me, then then.

660
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Speaker 12: He would.

661
00:30:50,813 --> 00:30:53,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it wouldn't be a thing, right is. It

662
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Speaker 3: just never would have got to this level if it

663
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Speaker 3: just been water cooler talk. And perhaps the way he

664
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Speaker 3: articulated it to his fellow counselors in a verbatim sort

665
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:03,373
Speaker 3: of way. I'm sure it never would have got to

666
00:31:03,373 --> 00:31:05,173
Speaker 3: this level. But the very fact you're right that he

667
00:31:05,213 --> 00:31:07,253
Speaker 3: wrote it down in an email and use some of

668
00:31:07,293 --> 00:31:11,213
Speaker 3: the descriptive words that he used is at best naive.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Matt Darling, Sweetie says this Texter.

671
00:31:19,693 --> 00:31:23,093
Speaker 2: Would you send an email to say Tyler or Marcus

672
00:31:23,493 --> 00:31:26,693
Speaker 2: had been up to something to Mike Costing? Just think

673
00:31:26,733 --> 00:31:29,053
Speaker 2: about that and then apply to your side of what

674
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:32,013
Speaker 2: has gossip? Was a gang up? Yeah?

675
00:31:32,213 --> 00:31:32,453
Speaker 4: Would?

676
00:31:32,693 --> 00:31:34,653
Speaker 2: The emailing part of it is pretty weird. If I

677
00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:37,493
Speaker 2: heard something about you, Tyler, and then I emailed Mike Costing,

678
00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:40,413
Speaker 2: he'd reply who's Tyler for a start, and then you'd

679
00:31:40,413 --> 00:31:40,933
Speaker 2: go who are you?

680
00:31:41,213 --> 00:31:44,173
Speaker 3: And then why are you telling me this information?

681
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:48,493
Speaker 2: What do I get? So I can categorically say I

682
00:31:48,493 --> 00:31:51,773
Speaker 2: would not send an email to Mike Costin about what

683
00:31:51,813 --> 00:31:53,013
Speaker 2: Marcus Lush has been up to you.

684
00:31:53,173 --> 00:31:55,573
Speaker 3: Great texts though, right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

685
00:31:55,733 --> 00:31:57,333
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Will take a few more

686
00:31:57,373 --> 00:31:59,573
Speaker 3: calls on this, It is forteen to two.

687
00:31:59,653 --> 00:32:02,493
Speaker 2: I'm getting the feeling though, people kind of agree to

688
00:32:02,533 --> 00:32:05,413
Speaker 2: a certain extent that whilst it's not the greatest thing

689
00:32:05,453 --> 00:32:08,293
Speaker 2: that anyone's ever done, it's not all it's equally not

690
00:32:08,373 --> 00:32:11,853
Speaker 2: the biggest scandal and probably doesn't probably doesn't deserve the

691
00:32:11,893 --> 00:32:12,573
Speaker 2: juice it's getting.

692
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Speaker 1: Yep, Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight

693
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams.

694
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Speaker 1: Afternoons news talks have be.

695
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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon give it is eleven to two and

696
00:32:26,573 --> 00:32:29,653
Speaker 3: we're talking about the Ray Chung situation that is unfolding

697
00:32:29,693 --> 00:32:32,093
Speaker 3: down and Wellington after an email he sent two years

698
00:32:32,093 --> 00:32:36,293
Speaker 3: ago was released in which he accused mere Tory Fano

699
00:32:36,413 --> 00:32:40,613
Speaker 3: of what he called an appropriate behavior or a behavior

700
00:32:40,613 --> 00:32:43,053
Speaker 3: that may be unfitting for the Meyer. She has denied

701
00:32:43,053 --> 00:32:47,373
Speaker 3: all allegations. But this conversation has sort of veered towards

702
00:32:47,373 --> 00:32:50,453
Speaker 3: gossiping in general. Do we gossip? Are you a gossiper?

703
00:32:50,573 --> 00:32:52,493
Speaker 3: Is it just a normal part of human nature?

704
00:32:53,013 --> 00:32:55,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what i'm That's what i'm That's my

705
00:32:55,413 --> 00:32:58,853
Speaker 2: angle that gossiping is something everyone does. So people are

706
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,333
Speaker 2: getting outraged the point of going along and heckling the man.

707
00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:04,613
Speaker 2: Have they never gossiped in their life? Have they never

708
00:33:05,013 --> 00:33:08,133
Speaker 2: spilt the tea when they've heard it. Guarantee at one

709
00:33:08,133 --> 00:33:10,333
Speaker 2: point when in your life you've gossiped. I had an

710
00:33:10,373 --> 00:33:12,373
Speaker 2: exit used to complain to me because as much as

711
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:14,773
Speaker 2: I've admitted to gossiping, she would she would find some

712
00:33:14,853 --> 00:33:16,773
Speaker 2: information out and I would have known it for ages,

713
00:33:16,773 --> 00:33:17,773
Speaker 2: and she goes, why don't you tell me? And I

714
00:33:17,813 --> 00:33:19,653
Speaker 2: was like, I forgot She go, you are the worst

715
00:33:19,653 --> 00:33:22,573
Speaker 2: gossip So I was actually used to get in trouble

716
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Speaker 2: for not gossiping.

717
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that hurts when you're not given enough to

718
00:33:26,293 --> 00:33:29,173
Speaker 3: Now here's a little bit of an interview that Ryan

719
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Speaker 3: Bridge did with Ray when the scandal first broke out.

720
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Speaker 3: You ever had any drugs or done on the orgy's? Ray? Never?

721
00:33:37,453 --> 00:33:37,853
Speaker 4: Sadly?

722
00:33:39,693 --> 00:33:44,533
Speaker 3: Would you like to have? Well, the opportunity has never

723
00:33:44,573 --> 00:33:48,053
Speaker 3: been there, so I've never been interested in taking drugs,

724
00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:51,933
Speaker 3: So you haven't taken of those. Okay, all right, Ray, Well,

725
00:33:51,933 --> 00:33:55,613
Speaker 3: good luck with your campaign. Yep, thank you, that's Raid showing,

726
00:33:55,693 --> 00:33:57,133
Speaker 3: that's Wellington Merril.

727
00:33:57,213 --> 00:33:58,573
Speaker 2: Hopefully you've got to say that's a good line of

728
00:33:58,613 --> 00:34:01,333
Speaker 2: questioning from Ryan Bridge. There have you ever taken any drugs?

729
00:34:01,653 --> 00:34:03,373
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in order to have done any

730
00:34:03,453 --> 00:34:05,613
Speaker 2: drugs or whatever. It was straight up question.

731
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Speaker 3: So he said no and then sadly, but then he said,

732
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:09,933
Speaker 3: never want to do drugs, but he was open to

733
00:34:09,973 --> 00:34:11,693
Speaker 3: the idea of an orgy if he got an invitation.

734
00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:14,133
Speaker 2: I don't see where his eyes were looking, but there

735
00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:16,853
Speaker 2: was the vibe that he was, you know, wistfully looking off,

736
00:34:17,213 --> 00:34:19,373
Speaker 2: with regretting in his eyes that the opportunity had never

737
00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:20,453
Speaker 2: a reson itself for him.

738
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Speaker 3: I haven't lived my life properly. Here is the number

739
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Speaker 3: to call.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Lisa.

741
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:35,013
Speaker 3: Hey, Lisa, you want to talk about gossiping? Yes, yep,

742
00:34:35,093 --> 00:34:36,813
Speaker 3: And what do you reackon? Is it human nature? Do

743
00:34:36,893 --> 00:34:39,293
Speaker 3: we all love a gossip from time to time and

744
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:41,732
Speaker 3: anyone who sees they don't as the liar.

745
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:49,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a nature like us call like we learn

746
00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:52,893
Speaker 14: more like like I'm called judge, but I'm not perfect.

747
00:34:53,013 --> 00:34:56,732
Speaker 14: I'm still trying. Like gossiping is some people they're doing it,

748
00:34:56,813 --> 00:35:01,013
Speaker 14: but we changed when we goes and more like gossiping

749
00:35:01,173 --> 00:35:05,253
Speaker 14: is like like we talk about like jug like that,

750
00:35:06,373 --> 00:35:08,493
Speaker 14: you know, like that it's a seem you know, it's

751
00:35:08,493 --> 00:35:12,093
Speaker 14: a since I've gotten the Bible say like this, it's

752
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:14,693
Speaker 14: a thing when you're thought that gossiping, and like, we

753
00:35:14,853 --> 00:35:17,493
Speaker 14: try not to just like me, I try to stop that.

754
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:20,053
Speaker 2: Because it's yeah, thinking you bully. So we've got a

755
00:35:20,053 --> 00:35:22,293
Speaker 2: lot of noise in the background there. But yeah, the Bible,

756
00:35:22,773 --> 00:35:25,172
Speaker 2: I think sort of evil speak, doesn't it. It does,

757
00:35:25,293 --> 00:35:28,453
Speaker 2: so the Bible comes out strongly against gossiping. What's your

758
00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:29,373
Speaker 2: sort of thoughts on this?

759
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Speaker 6: You know, everyone gossips. I mean, I think people are

760
00:35:33,893 --> 00:35:36,453
Speaker 6: lying if they're saying they have a gossip before. But

761
00:35:36,693 --> 00:35:38,493
Speaker 6: when you look at this whole Ray Hung f I

762
00:35:38,613 --> 00:35:42,093
Speaker 6: just like the amount of articles I've seen on it.

763
00:35:42,173 --> 00:35:44,453
Speaker 6: I mean, it just seems to me that, you know,

764
00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:48,053
Speaker 6: it's a left right leaning battle and the left are

765
00:35:48,053 --> 00:35:50,613
Speaker 6: just trying to smear Ray Hung, so that Andrew Little

766
00:35:50,653 --> 00:35:52,653
Speaker 6: becomes me. It that's how I see it.

767
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:56,053
Speaker 2: Let's see you think it's orchestrated by his enemies.

768
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Speaker 6: I honestly think that there's a lot of politics and

769
00:36:00,773 --> 00:36:03,853
Speaker 6: left and right leaning in the day. So I just

770
00:36:03,893 --> 00:36:06,053
Speaker 6: see it as a case said, oh, well, we go

771
00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:10,253
Speaker 6: rach Hung and smears can I mean, I'm not condoning

772
00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:13,172
Speaker 6: the email, Yeah, I just think it could have been

773
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Speaker 6: I don't think he should have done.

774
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Speaker 4: The way should.

775
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Speaker 6: But I just think when you look at it now,

776
00:36:18,453 --> 00:36:22,613
Speaker 6: I mean article, I think, but think.

777
00:36:22,613 --> 00:36:24,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's That was my premise of this

778
00:36:24,693 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 2: whole thing. I was like, why do we even care?

779
00:36:26,373 --> 00:36:28,933
Speaker 2: It's not even that big a deal, but especially rich

780
00:36:28,973 --> 00:36:32,173
Speaker 2: when you have people going along to events and heckling

781
00:36:32,693 --> 00:36:35,693
Speaker 2: over it, it just seems like that is an extreme

782
00:36:35,813 --> 00:36:38,333
Speaker 2: reaction considering all the things that are happening in the

783
00:36:38,333 --> 00:36:40,893
Speaker 2: world right now. That that's the thing that gets you off.

784
00:36:40,893 --> 00:36:44,493
Speaker 2: This email, this gossipy email that was from two years ago,

785
00:36:44,613 --> 00:36:46,773
Speaker 2: is the thing that gets you out and about to

786
00:36:47,173 --> 00:36:49,493
Speaker 2: yell at people. It's that's that seems bizarre to me.

787
00:36:51,653 --> 00:36:52,013
Speaker 1: It does.

788
00:36:52,093 --> 00:36:54,373
Speaker 6: And when you look at Wellington and how the how

789
00:36:54,493 --> 00:36:56,853
Speaker 6: things have been then for the last three war years.

790
00:36:56,853 --> 00:36:58,533
Speaker 6: They need to help, they can get and it's just

791
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:00,933
Speaker 6: like you don't need to and people want to turn

792
00:37:01,013 --> 00:37:06,973
Speaker 6: up to this this Lives and interview saying I mean,

793
00:37:07,013 --> 00:37:08,933
Speaker 6: you haven't got nothing.

794
00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:17,413
Speaker 3: To do here, nice Joe, you reckon. No one's got

795
00:37:17,453 --> 00:37:20,533
Speaker 3: the fix on the situation exactly.

796
00:37:21,093 --> 00:37:25,613
Speaker 15: Good aston as you say, you know, it's it's gone

797
00:37:26,133 --> 00:37:30,693
Speaker 15: overblown for no reason. The only reason I think is

798
00:37:31,293 --> 00:37:36,293
Speaker 15: politically motivated people don't want to see Ray and independent,

799
00:37:36,413 --> 00:37:39,893
Speaker 15: and people usually don't like independent because they've got their

800
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:47,533
Speaker 15: own views and and kind of going against the established ways.

801
00:37:47,573 --> 00:37:50,373
Speaker 15: Somebody's has come up with that story. It might not

802
00:37:50,533 --> 00:37:54,813
Speaker 15: even be true. It's all I reckon, it's all made up,

803
00:37:55,253 --> 00:37:58,733
Speaker 15: and it got reported to the neighbor, and who knows

804
00:37:58,813 --> 00:38:03,493
Speaker 15: what the intrications between the you know what. In my opinion,

805
00:38:05,053 --> 00:38:08,133
Speaker 15: it could have never happened. It's just all made up

806
00:38:08,733 --> 00:38:12,173
Speaker 15: so to to get Ray out of the picture.

807
00:38:12,493 --> 00:38:13,733
Speaker 2: Do you think it was Do you think it was

808
00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:15,333
Speaker 2: a chance, Joe? Do you think he was a chance

809
00:38:15,373 --> 00:38:16,253
Speaker 2: to beat Andrew Little?

810
00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:18,613
Speaker 11: Well?

811
00:38:18,693 --> 00:38:21,933
Speaker 15: I think he could because people are fed up with

812
00:38:22,053 --> 00:38:24,933
Speaker 15: high rates, are set up with the way that the

813
00:38:25,053 --> 00:38:28,493
Speaker 15: city is run at present, and so h yeah, I

814
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:31,733
Speaker 15: think he has a chance. But it's always very hard

815
00:38:31,813 --> 00:38:36,493
Speaker 15: for independent to uh do a campaign. I know, I've

816
00:38:36,493 --> 00:38:37,893
Speaker 15: worked on a campaign overseas.

817
00:38:37,973 --> 00:38:38,813
Speaker 12: I know what it's like.

818
00:38:39,413 --> 00:38:41,853
Speaker 15: So I think it's it's a big.

819
00:38:42,493 --> 00:38:45,093
Speaker 2: Would when you're working on campaigns, Joe, would you've run

820
00:38:45,173 --> 00:38:47,093
Speaker 2: this kind of thing? Would you would? Would you see

821
00:38:47,093 --> 00:38:50,693
Speaker 2: it as an effective if this is what's happened? So

822
00:38:50,773 --> 00:38:54,212
Speaker 2: you release the email to discredit someone because it's quite

823
00:38:54,213 --> 00:38:57,093
Speaker 2: a complicated situation, this one. It seems like there could

824
00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:59,652
Speaker 2: be a bit of sort of blowback or whatever. But

825
00:38:59,693 --> 00:39:01,493
Speaker 2: do do you think this is a this is uh?

826
00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:03,853
Speaker 2: If it is, do you think it's a it's a

827
00:39:03,893 --> 00:39:07,373
Speaker 2: clever campaign against against Ray?

828
00:39:07,773 --> 00:39:10,333
Speaker 15: No, it's not. But it has to be proven and

829
00:39:10,373 --> 00:39:14,093
Speaker 15: that's where it should have. Some people should get onto

830
00:39:14,173 --> 00:39:17,813
Speaker 15: the facts and see it really is it? They're even

831
00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:19,853
Speaker 15: happen It looks like fiction to me.

832
00:39:21,013 --> 00:39:23,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reads like a classic gossip story.

833
00:39:23,973 --> 00:39:24,692
Speaker 3: It certainly does.

834
00:39:24,773 --> 00:39:26,293
Speaker 2: But I think I think after an hour of talking

835
00:39:26,293 --> 00:39:29,773
Speaker 2: about this, I think people just generally agree that it's

836
00:39:29,813 --> 00:39:32,253
Speaker 2: a bit weird. But it's not the biggest scandal in

837
00:39:32,253 --> 00:39:35,933
Speaker 2: the world. And let's do our bit for burying it

838
00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:37,973
Speaker 2: by stopping talking about it right now, shall we, tiler?

839
00:39:38,093 --> 00:39:39,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's do that, And good luck in the

840
00:39:40,013 --> 00:39:43,533
Speaker 3: election rate in October right coming up after two o'clock,

841
00:39:44,053 --> 00:39:46,652
Speaker 3: the UK is about to give sixteen and seventeen year

842
00:39:46,653 --> 00:39:48,692
Speaker 3: old to the right to vote. Should we do the

843
00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:50,212
Speaker 3: same or in fact go the other way?

844
00:39:50,373 --> 00:39:50,613
Speaker 4: Yeah?

845
00:39:50,693 --> 00:39:54,773
Speaker 2: I say twenty five twenty five years old should be

846
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:55,613
Speaker 2: the voting age.

847
00:39:55,813 --> 00:39:58,213
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties The number to call.

848
00:40:00,453 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

849
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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

850
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Speaker 4: It'd be.

851
00:40:08,373 --> 00:40:11,733
Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome back into the program. Just before we get

852
00:40:11,773 --> 00:40:14,093
Speaker 3: into this comment, I hear what you said about not

853
00:40:14,093 --> 00:40:16,133
Speaker 3: getting you a coffee last time, so I've made you

854
00:40:16,173 --> 00:40:19,973
Speaker 3: one freshly than you had a we sip. It's not bad,

855
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:22,172
Speaker 3: not bad, not bad. Didn't cost me a dime.

856
00:40:22,413 --> 00:40:22,613
Speaker 11: You go.

857
00:40:22,773 --> 00:40:24,172
Speaker 2: Could you were to kill you to get some cream

858
00:40:24,173 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: for that?

859
00:40:24,533 --> 00:40:26,493
Speaker 3: That's a bit of Greggs in that. Yeah, do you

860
00:40:26,493 --> 00:40:27,093
Speaker 3: feel about that.

861
00:40:27,413 --> 00:40:29,613
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Greggs. I just want to

862
00:40:29,653 --> 00:40:31,653
Speaker 2: know where the bloody cream is for.

863
00:40:31,693 --> 00:40:36,013
Speaker 3: No cream, just green top milk heavy with that look,

864
00:40:37,413 --> 00:40:40,413
Speaker 3: I'd try and do something nice and there was no

865
00:40:40,493 --> 00:40:42,373
Speaker 3: cream in the office. We've run out of blue top milk.

866
00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:44,252
Speaker 3: There's not even know why we buy green top milk.

867
00:40:44,293 --> 00:40:44,933
Speaker 3: Nobody likes it.

868
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:46,813
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that it's the red ribbon roast. But

869
00:40:47,293 --> 00:40:48,533
Speaker 2: just a little bit of cream, be nice and then

870
00:40:48,733 --> 00:40:49,533
Speaker 2: thank you so much.

871
00:40:49,573 --> 00:40:49,893
Speaker 4: Tyler.

872
00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:51,413
Speaker 3: Hey, no problem, That's what I'm here for.

873
00:40:51,653 --> 00:40:55,453
Speaker 2: Let's put the filth of the last hour behind us

874
00:40:55,573 --> 00:40:59,573
Speaker 2: and move on to a very contentious issue out of

875
00:40:59,613 --> 00:41:01,733
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom.

876
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:04,053
Speaker 3: Tyler, let's cleanse the plalet our palette. Yes, the UK

877
00:41:04,573 --> 00:41:07,172
Speaker 3: government will give sixteen and seventeen year olds the right

878
00:41:07,213 --> 00:41:09,853
Speaker 3: to vote and all in a major overhaul of its

879
00:41:09,933 --> 00:41:12,853
Speaker 3: voting system. So the move will align voting rights across

880
00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:16,213
Speaker 3: the UK, where younger voters have already participated in devolved

881
00:41:16,213 --> 00:41:18,973
Speaker 3: elections in Scotland and Wales. So here was the quote

882
00:41:19,013 --> 00:41:21,652
Speaker 3: from Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister in the UK. They're

883
00:41:21,693 --> 00:41:24,053
Speaker 3: old enough to go out to work, they're old enough

884
00:41:24,053 --> 00:41:26,493
Speaker 3: to pay taxes, and I think if you pay and

885
00:41:26,573 --> 00:41:28,933
Speaker 3: you should have the opportunity to say what you want

886
00:41:28,933 --> 00:41:31,893
Speaker 3: your money spent on which way the government should go.

887
00:41:32,933 --> 00:41:33,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

888
00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:36,373
Speaker 2: So there's been pushes in the past and there's definitely

889
00:41:36,413 --> 00:41:39,973
Speaker 2: political parties in this country that support moving the voting

890
00:41:40,013 --> 00:41:43,893
Speaker 2: age to sixteen. I reckon it should be twenty five.

891
00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:46,893
Speaker 2: I think far from moving it to sixteen, we should

892
00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:49,253
Speaker 2: move it up seven years to twenty five. I was

893
00:41:49,293 --> 00:41:53,613
Speaker 2: an absolute more on till I was twenty five, even

894
00:41:53,613 --> 00:41:57,172
Speaker 2: more so than I am now. You haven't lived at all.

895
00:41:57,213 --> 00:42:00,373
Speaker 2: When you're sixteen, you're either you're going to vote either

896
00:42:00,453 --> 00:42:02,692
Speaker 2: with what your parents think or what the school's told

897
00:42:02,733 --> 00:42:05,133
Speaker 2: you to think yeah, or more likely what's on TikTok?

898
00:42:05,733 --> 00:42:08,813
Speaker 2: You know, you haven't worked, you haven't been out there

899
00:42:08,853 --> 00:42:12,453
Speaker 2: to see the realities of life. Most sixteen year olds

900
00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:14,533
Speaker 2: against STI getting their dinner made for them. They're still

901
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:17,773
Speaker 2: getting their laundry done by their parents. Most sixteen year olds.

902
00:42:17,973 --> 00:42:21,133
Speaker 2: We don't let kids drink at sixteen for a reason.

903
00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:23,293
Speaker 2: So if you are going to lower the voting age

904
00:42:23,333 --> 00:42:25,613
Speaker 2: to sixteen, you have to vote lower the drinking age

905
00:42:25,653 --> 00:42:28,973
Speaker 2: to sixteen, or it will lower itself to sixteen because

906
00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:32,053
Speaker 2: people will be chasing the sixteen and seventeen year old vote.

907
00:42:32,053 --> 00:42:34,373
Speaker 3: They'll make it happen anyway. I mean, that is a bold,

908
00:42:34,413 --> 00:42:36,773
Speaker 3: bold move to raise it up to twenty five. You've

909
00:42:36,773 --> 00:42:39,413
Speaker 3: got some evidence there around the frontal cortex, which I

910
00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:41,613
Speaker 3: can understand. That's pretty late in life though a lot

911
00:42:41,613 --> 00:42:44,413
Speaker 3: of twenty five year olds, you know, they got families.

912
00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:47,093
Speaker 3: I got pretty well into their career by that stage.

913
00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:49,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good time. So my other thing, the

914
00:42:49,653 --> 00:42:53,373
Speaker 2: prefrontal cortex, that is the brain region, as we all know,

915
00:42:53,453 --> 00:42:57,773
Speaker 2: responsible for complex cognitive functions like the planning and decision

916
00:42:57,773 --> 00:43:01,933
Speaker 2: making and impulse control that you need to make decisions

917
00:43:01,973 --> 00:43:07,533
Speaker 2: about the future of your country, things like planning decision making,

918
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:11,533
Speaker 2: and it's not developed fully until you're twenty five. The

919
00:43:11,573 --> 00:43:14,453
Speaker 2: other will brain size might stop growing earlier, but the

920
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:18,692
Speaker 2: prefrontal cortex continues to mature and refines its connections after

921
00:43:18,733 --> 00:43:22,173
Speaker 2: twenty five, So you get smarter after twenty five, but

922
00:43:22,253 --> 00:43:24,693
Speaker 2: up to twenty five you are not good at planning.

923
00:43:24,813 --> 00:43:27,093
Speaker 3: No, do we raise a drinking age to twenty five

924
00:43:27,133 --> 00:43:32,212
Speaker 3: as well? Nah, give them a drink, No voting rights

925
00:43:32,253 --> 00:43:33,613
Speaker 3: until twenty five, Let.

926
00:43:33,573 --> 00:43:38,973
Speaker 2: Them join the army, let them get married, but they

927
00:43:38,973 --> 00:43:40,213
Speaker 2: can't vote to their twenty four.

928
00:43:40,093 --> 00:43:43,413
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten acy. Is it advisable

929
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:45,413
Speaker 3: to raise a voting age to twenty five? Met does

930
00:43:45,493 --> 00:43:48,293
Speaker 3: have the science behind them. Here's why I actually agree

931
00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:51,213
Speaker 3: with Lauren it to sixteen for the local body elections.

932
00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:55,013
Speaker 3: We don't care about local body elections. Less than forty

933
00:43:55,013 --> 00:43:57,373
Speaker 3: percent of us could give us stuff. We don't even vote,

934
00:43:57,573 --> 00:43:59,813
Speaker 3: so councils are a dog's breakfast. We know that up

935
00:43:59,813 --> 00:44:02,093
Speaker 3: and down the country. What would be the harm in

936
00:44:02,133 --> 00:44:04,653
Speaker 3: giving sixteen year olds and seventeen year olds a shot

937
00:44:04,773 --> 00:44:06,613
Speaker 3: at having to say at the local body, I don't

938
00:44:06,613 --> 00:44:09,493
Speaker 3: care If they're numpties, I reckon these won't vote anyway.

939
00:44:09,653 --> 00:44:11,933
Speaker 3: So then you get the clever sixteen and seventeen year

940
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:13,933
Speaker 3: olds and if people are so outraged by it, maybe

941
00:44:13,933 --> 00:44:14,933
Speaker 3: they'll vote finally.

942
00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:17,453
Speaker 2: Okay, Tyler, you look back when you were sixteen, I

943
00:44:17,493 --> 00:44:19,533
Speaker 2: was an idiot. Yeah, I'm still at it here. So

944
00:44:19,653 --> 00:44:22,053
Speaker 2: why does it matter? What do you want idiots voting

945
00:44:22,053 --> 00:44:25,652
Speaker 2: in local body over the national election? What difference does

946
00:44:25,653 --> 00:44:25,933
Speaker 2: it make?

947
00:44:26,053 --> 00:44:28,173
Speaker 3: I think it's just a good test case first to

948
00:44:28,213 --> 00:44:29,973
Speaker 3: start with the local body. If that goes well and

949
00:44:30,053 --> 00:44:33,413
Speaker 3: everybody realizes that the country isn't going to implode. And

950
00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:36,373
Speaker 3: it actually worked quite successfully in Scotland and Wales. They

951
00:44:36,413 --> 00:44:40,573
Speaker 3: saw the eligible voters come back to the polling stations.

952
00:44:41,253 --> 00:44:44,692
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you lower the age of drinking, you'll

953
00:44:44,693 --> 00:44:46,813
Speaker 2: see more people in pubs. But is that what you

954
00:44:46,853 --> 00:44:49,333
Speaker 2: want to do? See just because numbers go up. If

955
00:44:49,293 --> 00:44:52,772
Speaker 2: it's numbers of people that shouldn't be voting, then that's

956
00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:53,212
Speaker 2: not a win.

957
00:44:53,493 --> 00:44:56,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, hey, HOSPO was in tough times at the moment,

958
00:44:56,173 --> 00:44:58,253
Speaker 3: why not why not let them vote and let them

959
00:44:58,253 --> 00:45:00,493
Speaker 3: have a cheeky drink down at the pub. But generally

960
00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:02,493
Speaker 3: I think If you start a lot younger, then they're

961
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:04,853
Speaker 3: going to take more of an interest and get better

962
00:45:05,333 --> 00:45:08,693
Speaker 3: at determining information as they get into a state. As

963
00:45:08,733 --> 00:45:12,173
Speaker 3: you say, by twenty five, they'll absolutely be fantastic voters.

964
00:45:12,173 --> 00:45:15,013
Speaker 3: They'll know their civil rights and what being a good

965
00:45:15,053 --> 00:45:17,213
Speaker 3: citizen is and get all the information about their fellow

966
00:45:17,253 --> 00:45:19,733
Speaker 3: counselors and who's standing, so they'll do it well.

967
00:45:19,813 --> 00:45:22,373
Speaker 2: It's depending on timing of when they turned sixteen. They

968
00:45:22,413 --> 00:45:25,212
Speaker 2: could have made force three stupid votes by the time

969
00:45:25,813 --> 00:45:28,493
Speaker 2: this practice makes perfect, Fellas, I've got a sixteen and

970
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:30,733
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old, I wouldn't even let them choose

971
00:45:30,733 --> 00:45:32,773
Speaker 2: the channel on the remote, never mind vote.

972
00:45:33,453 --> 00:45:34,253
Speaker 3: It's a good text.

973
00:45:34,333 --> 00:45:36,413
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have kids, Tyler, No.

974
00:45:36,453 --> 00:45:40,053
Speaker 3: But I was sixteen at one point, so I mean you.

975
00:45:39,933 --> 00:45:42,893
Speaker 2: Just need to look at a teenager boys bedroom and

976
00:45:42,933 --> 00:45:44,333
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want that person voting.

977
00:45:45,573 --> 00:45:47,253
Speaker 3: Right. The phones have led up oh eight, one hundred

978
00:45:47,253 --> 00:45:50,733
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty, So two things. Do you support

979
00:45:51,093 --> 00:45:53,812
Speaker 3: raising the voting age to twenty five? And how would

980
00:45:53,813 --> 00:45:56,093
Speaker 3: you feel about looking at the idea of giving sixteen

981
00:45:56,093 --> 00:45:58,413
Speaker 3: and seventeen year olds the right to vote? Get on

982
00:45:58,453 --> 00:45:59,933
Speaker 3: the phones that it's twelve past too.

983
00:46:00,053 --> 00:46:01,652
Speaker 2: The Sticks says, this take it back to the good

984
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:03,373
Speaker 2: old days when you had to own your own horse

985
00:46:03,413 --> 00:46:04,373
Speaker 2: before you're allowed to vote.

986
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:09,813
Speaker 1: Before that, you're home of the noon Talk mad Heathen

987
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:13,613
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

988
00:46:13,733 --> 00:46:14,693
Speaker 1: news Talk said be.

989
00:46:16,333 --> 00:46:18,533
Speaker 3: It's a quarter past two. So at this early stage

990
00:46:18,533 --> 00:46:20,453
Speaker 3: of the discussion, I think you're getting quite a bit

991
00:46:20,493 --> 00:46:22,573
Speaker 3: of support for raising the voting age to twenty five.

992
00:46:22,693 --> 00:46:25,093
Speaker 2: Matt Graham says, no way he should sixteen to seventeen

993
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:27,573
Speaker 2: year olds vote in local body elections. Easy answer. You

994
00:46:27,573 --> 00:46:30,413
Speaker 2: can't hold a mortgage until you're eighteen. So just as

995
00:46:30,493 --> 00:46:33,093
Speaker 2: there is no taxation without representation, there should be no

996
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:37,413
Speaker 2: representation without taxation. They may pay rent, so pay rates indirectly,

997
00:46:37,493 --> 00:46:40,053
Speaker 2: but until they can actually own a house and have

998
00:46:40,213 --> 00:46:44,973
Speaker 2: to fund idiots like Ray Chung and Tory Funo in

999
00:46:45,133 --> 00:46:45,533
Speaker 2: no way.

1000
00:46:45,853 --> 00:46:47,493
Speaker 3: Okay, very much for that text.

1001
00:46:47,773 --> 00:46:50,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, Melanie, you're for it.

1002
00:46:51,213 --> 00:46:51,853
Speaker 16: I'm for it.

1003
00:46:51,933 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 17: I totally agree with Tyler. Sixteen and seventeen year olds

1004
00:46:55,693 --> 00:46:57,893
Speaker 17: should be allowed to vote. I can't remember what the

1005
00:46:57,893 --> 00:47:00,773
Speaker 17: percentages with our last election, but I know that the

1006
00:47:00,893 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 17: under thirties were very weren't represented much at all. So,

1007
00:47:04,933 --> 00:47:07,493
Speaker 17: like Tyler said, get the clever ones, the ones that

1008
00:47:07,573 --> 00:47:11,373
Speaker 17: are really did do their research, don't definitely don't do

1009
00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 17: what their GenEx parents do. I'm a gen exit, but

1010
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:18,373
Speaker 17: I think I think people shouldn't be allowed to get

1011
00:47:18,453 --> 00:47:20,292
Speaker 17: married until twenty five.

1012
00:47:21,013 --> 00:47:24,373
Speaker 3: That's my that's my little that's clever.

1013
00:47:24,653 --> 00:47:28,893
Speaker 2: Well, but actually material all right, So you think that

1014
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:31,333
Speaker 2: they're not ready to get married, but they are ready

1015
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:33,893
Speaker 2: to vote on the issues of the day in an election.

1016
00:47:34,933 --> 00:47:36,493
Speaker 18: Yeah, when you look at.

1017
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:39,733
Speaker 17: The psychology of it, there's not. Well, there may be

1018
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:43,613
Speaker 17: a few emotions, like about politics, but there's because of

1019
00:47:43,653 --> 00:47:45,373
Speaker 17: the Internet too, you can do a heck of a

1020
00:47:45,373 --> 00:47:47,453
Speaker 17: lot of research. You can go to talk. When I

1021
00:47:47,493 --> 00:47:49,493
Speaker 17: was at Uni, I when and you know, all sorts

1022
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:53,973
Speaker 17: of people from different political parties were talking. And so

1023
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:56,652
Speaker 17: maybe because a lot of kids like I was young

1024
00:47:56,733 --> 00:47:59,333
Speaker 17: for my class, so I didn't go straight to university,

1025
00:47:59,373 --> 00:48:02,253
Speaker 17: but they would have been seventeen year olds at university.

1026
00:48:02,573 --> 00:48:04,973
Speaker 17: And if you're at university, I reckon you are clever

1027
00:48:05,093 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 17: enough to vote.

1028
00:48:07,133 --> 00:48:10,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I'm into university. What do you

1029
00:48:10,613 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 2: think about?

1030
00:48:12,013 --> 00:48:13,893
Speaker 19: What do you think about years ago.

1031
00:48:14,253 --> 00:48:14,893
Speaker 8: What do you think.

1032
00:48:14,733 --> 00:48:18,573
Speaker 2: About sixteen year olds though, Melanie? And drinking? So if

1033
00:48:18,573 --> 00:48:20,933
Speaker 2: they can vote, surely that you have to let them

1034
00:48:21,173 --> 00:48:23,133
Speaker 2: them drink alcohol. They're definitely going to vote for that.

1035
00:48:23,293 --> 00:48:26,893
Speaker 2: It'll probably the primary issue. I'm allowed to vote in elections,

1036
00:48:26,933 --> 00:48:29,133
Speaker 2: but yet I cannot drink in pubs.

1037
00:48:30,613 --> 00:48:34,093
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, well kids like drinking at home anyway at

1038
00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:36,413
Speaker 17: that age, so they can pash and there all sorts

1039
00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:41,813
Speaker 17: of stuff like you know, yeah we did were Yeah, yeah,

1040
00:48:42,173 --> 00:48:45,333
Speaker 17: kids are going to drink. Kids and fake IDs are

1041
00:48:45,573 --> 00:48:48,373
Speaker 17: probably pretty still easy to get with all AI and

1042
00:48:48,413 --> 00:48:51,613
Speaker 17: all of that sort of thing. Yeah, interesting topic, really good,

1043
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:52,692
Speaker 17: good topic, guys.

1044
00:48:52,813 --> 00:48:55,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, got on you, Melanie, Thank you very much. Oh

1045
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:57,333
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1046
00:48:57,373 --> 00:48:58,973
Speaker 3: call if we.

1047
00:48:59,013 --> 00:49:01,973
Speaker 2: Let news talk zb STA vote. We can't really say

1048
00:49:02,013 --> 00:49:03,613
Speaker 2: that we're protected against idiots.

1049
00:49:04,173 --> 00:49:06,053
Speaker 3: That's fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. Can I

1050
00:49:06,053 --> 00:49:06,573
Speaker 3: agree with that?

1051
00:49:06,613 --> 00:49:09,213
Speaker 2: And that's true. I mean there's definitely idiots of all age.

1052
00:49:09,373 --> 00:49:12,333
Speaker 2: I mean there are sixteen and seventeen year old idiots

1053
00:49:12,373 --> 00:49:13,252
Speaker 2: that that's for sure.

1054
00:49:13,373 --> 00:49:14,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think.

1055
00:49:14,653 --> 00:49:17,573
Speaker 2: There are also sixty year old, fifty year old, forty

1056
00:49:17,613 --> 00:49:19,252
Speaker 2: year old, and thirty year old idiots as well.

1057
00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:19,413
Speaker 4: One.

1058
00:49:20,173 --> 00:49:24,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the frustrating thing about democracy, as so

1059
00:49:24,853 --> 00:49:31,333
Speaker 2: often you see idiots being led by idiotic campaigns and

1060
00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:33,693
Speaker 2: and and you know, you could argue that the discourse

1061
00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:36,053
Speaker 2: has to be dumbed down, like politicians have to win

1062
00:49:36,213 --> 00:49:37,973
Speaker 2: over morons to get in.

1063
00:49:38,173 --> 00:49:41,053
Speaker 3: Explain to it like I'm five. That's the tenet of

1064
00:49:41,093 --> 00:49:43,533
Speaker 3: a lot of politicians. Now, yeah, oh, one hundred and

1065
00:49:43,533 --> 00:49:45,093
Speaker 3: eighty ten eightyc number. Of course you want to said

1066
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:48,053
Speaker 3: it takes nine two ninety two, Richard.

1067
00:49:48,413 --> 00:49:51,013
Speaker 2: You also want to lower the voting age to sixteen.

1068
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:54,413
Speaker 8: Oh hello, Tyler, I haven't heard from you for a

1069
00:49:54,453 --> 00:49:54,933
Speaker 8: long time.

1070
00:49:55,173 --> 00:49:58,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, mates, you're well yeah good, yeah.

1071
00:49:58,333 --> 00:49:59,293
Speaker 8: Good thanks Tyler.

1072
00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:05,333
Speaker 2: Yes, Tyler focus medie here as well, mate, one of

1073
00:50:05,373 --> 00:50:05,933
Speaker 2: my chumb liver.

1074
00:50:06,213 --> 00:50:09,973
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, we go back a long time. Yeah, I'm

1075
00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:13,093
Speaker 8: very much for the sixteen seventeen year old. Yeah too, right,

1076
00:50:13,413 --> 00:50:16,893
Speaker 8: I'm seventy two. And look, at the end of the day,

1077
00:50:18,053 --> 00:50:20,773
Speaker 8: you allow people are suffering in their nineties from l ziers.

1078
00:50:20,813 --> 00:50:22,613
Speaker 20: They would even know what theme of the day it is,

1079
00:50:22,973 --> 00:50:23,853
Speaker 20: and you let them both.

1080
00:50:24,453 --> 00:50:26,893
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the fact, that's the fact that.

1081
00:50:27,413 --> 00:50:31,413
Speaker 2: You wouldn't controversially put for an upper you wouldn't controversially, Richard.

1082
00:50:32,213 --> 00:50:34,613
Speaker 2: Nice to meet your Richard. I'm Matt by the way, but.

1083
00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:38,373
Speaker 8: Yes, I know Matt. Yeah, yeah, Richard, Sorry, you apologize.

1084
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:41,213
Speaker 2: I've got a very friend. I've got a very fragile

1085
00:50:41,253 --> 00:50:43,212
Speaker 2: eg ego. If I don't get acknowledged, then I get

1086
00:50:43,253 --> 00:50:45,013
Speaker 2: upset and I take it out on Tyler.

1087
00:50:47,093 --> 00:50:47,373
Speaker 4: Richard.

1088
00:50:47,493 --> 00:50:50,533
Speaker 2: Would you controversially be suggesting an upper limit on voting?

1089
00:50:51,813 --> 00:50:51,973
Speaker 9: No?

1090
00:50:52,333 --> 00:50:57,652
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, because you said it put it to another way. Why, well,

1091
00:50:57,693 --> 00:50:59,813
Speaker 2: well you said that that you know, as people get

1092
00:50:59,813 --> 00:51:03,453
Speaker 2: older than then sometimes they're losing their faculties. So you know,

1093
00:51:03,493 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 2: we well could.

1094
00:51:04,733 --> 00:51:06,613
Speaker 8: You could say eighty year old have to take a

1095
00:51:06,653 --> 00:51:10,493
Speaker 8: cognentve driving test for their mingle abilities. If they're going

1096
00:51:10,573 --> 00:51:12,453
Speaker 8: to take that, they're voting.

1097
00:51:12,533 --> 00:51:15,732
Speaker 2: What about a cognitive test? What about a cognitive test?

1098
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:18,693
Speaker 2: What about a cognitive just a blanket cognitive test or

1099
00:51:18,693 --> 00:51:23,573
Speaker 2: intelligence test across your entire life, not into that too.

1100
00:51:23,453 --> 00:51:26,333
Speaker 8: Far at the at the yeah, of course, look at

1101
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,093
Speaker 8: the end of the day, you've got people with all

1102
00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:30,813
Speaker 8: sorts of addictions who don't know the day of the week.

1103
00:51:32,773 --> 00:51:34,693
Speaker 8: Look of voting is a voting, It's not the end

1104
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:37,533
Speaker 8: of the world. You know, just because one tiny's in power,

1105
00:51:37,573 --> 00:51:40,253
Speaker 8: there's not going to be there forever. Yes, these days,

1106
00:51:40,293 --> 00:51:45,013
Speaker 8: the young teenagers, honestly, Matt Tyler, they've got access to

1107
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:48,173
Speaker 8: so much intelligence these days, mainly through the Internet. Of

1108
00:51:48,173 --> 00:51:51,613
Speaker 8: course you'd be surprised. Well you're not surprised, cause you're not.

1109
00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:55,173
Speaker 8: But the intelligence of sixteen and seventeen year old is

1110
00:51:55,333 --> 00:51:57,292
Speaker 8: far behind our league.

1111
00:51:58,693 --> 00:52:01,413
Speaker 2: But I guess we should. I'd say that they are

1112
00:52:01,973 --> 00:52:04,053
Speaker 2: online a lot, we know that, and that's causing all

1113
00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:07,013
Speaker 2: kinds of problems. But they're easily lead. I mean, most

1114
00:52:07,093 --> 00:52:09,613
Speaker 2: kids are getting their politics from techtok and anyone that

1115
00:52:09,693 --> 00:52:13,053
Speaker 2: gets their politics from tech took, i'd question. I'd question

1116
00:52:14,213 --> 00:52:18,252
Speaker 2: how what you can get from watching one minute videos

1117
00:52:18,373 --> 00:52:20,933
Speaker 2: and so often people are sending around. I look at

1118
00:52:20,973 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 2: my partner's phone and what she gets sent compared to

1119
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:26,613
Speaker 2: what I get sent. She's a bit younger than me,

1120
00:52:26,933 --> 00:52:33,453
Speaker 2: not sixteen, she's voting age, but as a woman she

1121
00:52:33,493 --> 00:52:39,413
Speaker 2: gets sent her algorithm is very, very politicized compared to mine.

1122
00:52:39,493 --> 00:52:41,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely easily led, no doubt about that. But I

1123
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:45,013
Speaker 3: suppose the tenor of my argument here is, and no

1124
00:52:45,053 --> 00:52:47,413
Speaker 3: doubt there are some dumb mass sixteen and seventeen year olds.

1125
00:52:47,413 --> 00:52:49,893
Speaker 3: There's some dumbass people in the general population, but my

1126
00:52:50,093 --> 00:52:53,692
Speaker 3: point is that local body elections people aboard, they don't care.

1127
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:56,493
Speaker 3: There's so much empathy it needs a jolt. Maybe I'm

1128
00:52:56,533 --> 00:52:59,413
Speaker 3: advocating for a Burnett all down philosophy here, but there's

1129
00:52:59,413 --> 00:53:02,333
Speaker 3: something needs to happen radically at that point to make

1130
00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:03,973
Speaker 3: us give a damn because we don't give a damn.

1131
00:53:04,253 --> 00:53:07,133
Speaker 3: You know, less than forty forty percent of us actually

1132
00:53:07,213 --> 00:53:08,013
Speaker 3: vote on local body.

1133
00:53:08,333 --> 00:53:10,053
Speaker 2: Do you think that sixteen and seventeen year olds will

1134
00:53:10,093 --> 00:53:11,652
Speaker 2: give more of a damn than the people that don't

1135
00:53:11,653 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 2: give a damn?

1136
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:12,333
Speaker 6: Now?

1137
00:53:12,493 --> 00:53:14,573
Speaker 3: No, but people are so outraged by the idea of

1138
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:17,093
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old ben able to vote that they

1139
00:53:17,093 --> 00:53:19,933
Speaker 3: will march down to the local voting office and actually

1140
00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:22,373
Speaker 3: give a damn finally and make a vote for their

1141
00:53:22,373 --> 00:53:24,773
Speaker 3: local body elections and care about the council.

1142
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:29,573
Speaker 2: They'll see some tik tok adult idiot sixteen year old

1143
00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:32,172
Speaker 2: heading towards the voting booth, and they'll go, we better

1144
00:53:32,253 --> 00:53:35,933
Speaker 2: actually make an effort to offset these muppets exactly exactly.

1145
00:53:36,093 --> 00:53:38,252
Speaker 2: I quite like that theory, Tyler. Thank you that's actually

1146
00:53:38,253 --> 00:53:39,973
Speaker 2: pretty good for you. Thank you so much for you called.

1147
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:42,293
Speaker 3: Richard's Oh eight one hundred and eighteen eighty Z the number.

1148
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:44,053
Speaker 3: Call it's twenty three past two.

1149
00:53:44,613 --> 00:53:46,933
Speaker 2: The stexta says, look, I'm fifty five. I've never voted

1150
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:48,493
Speaker 2: in my life. Who bloody cares a lot of people

1151
00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:50,013
Speaker 2: feel that way, all right, thanks for your text.

1152
00:53:50,053 --> 00:53:57,293
Speaker 1: Paul, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight

1153
00:53:57,413 --> 00:53:59,933
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on us talk ZB.

1154
00:53:59,973 --> 00:54:02,613
Speaker 3: Twenty five past two. Should we be looking at raising

1155
00:54:02,653 --> 00:54:04,733
Speaker 3: the voting age or lawering it as they're doing in

1156
00:54:04,773 --> 00:54:07,173
Speaker 3: the UK. It's going to be legal for sixteen and

1157
00:54:07,173 --> 00:54:09,853
Speaker 3: seventeen year olds to vote next election. What do you say?

1158
00:54:10,293 --> 00:54:12,573
Speaker 2: The sixth says I was twenty with three children, couldn't

1159
00:54:12,613 --> 00:54:14,933
Speaker 2: vote or go into a pub, but was responsible for

1160
00:54:14,973 --> 00:54:18,093
Speaker 2: a milk run business, running a house, paying taxes and

1161
00:54:18,133 --> 00:54:21,172
Speaker 2: a mortgage. Yes, give sixteen year olds to vote. When

1162
00:54:21,173 --> 00:54:22,253
Speaker 2: was the voting age twenty?

1163
00:54:22,613 --> 00:54:25,812
Speaker 3: I thought it was twenty back in nineteen seventy four.

1164
00:54:25,933 --> 00:54:30,252
Speaker 3: I believe they dropped it down to eighteen. Well, look

1165
00:54:30,293 --> 00:54:30,853
Speaker 3: that are.

1166
00:54:31,013 --> 00:54:33,733
Speaker 2: Not voting as a vote in itself. Imagine if everyone

1167
00:54:33,773 --> 00:54:37,653
Speaker 2: didn't vote if they were just refused to vote. Hi, guys,

1168
00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:39,933
Speaker 2: just tuned in. If you're advocating for sixteen year olds

1169
00:54:39,933 --> 00:54:42,613
Speaker 2: to vote, you have rocks in your head. Assuming you don't,

1170
00:54:43,053 --> 00:54:45,652
Speaker 2: thanks Stuart, never assuming we don't have rocks in our heads.

1171
00:54:45,653 --> 00:54:51,293
Speaker 2: But yeah, Tyler is advocating for sixteen year olds to vote.

1172
00:54:51,533 --> 00:54:52,573
Speaker 2: It's happening in the UK.

1173
00:54:53,253 --> 00:54:59,253
Speaker 21: Bruce your thoughts Yeah, Hi guys, Yeah, but he you

1174
00:54:59,333 --> 00:55:02,613
Speaker 21: must realize also sixteen seventeen year olds given a vote,

1175
00:55:02,653 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 21: you're talking about local body elections, they'd also have to

1176
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:11,293
Speaker 21: have the vote in the election that I would strongly

1177
00:55:11,573 --> 00:55:18,093
Speaker 21: disagree with it. To be honest, most people sixteen seventeen

1178
00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:24,613
Speaker 21: are still basically at school and they're being getting, you know,

1179
00:55:24,693 --> 00:55:28,013
Speaker 21: getting a whole pile of left ring rubbish drown at them,

1180
00:55:28,053 --> 00:55:31,533
Speaker 21: which verty every day. And the only reason that the

1181
00:55:31,653 --> 00:55:35,853
Speaker 21: left are always looking seriously to drop the vote is

1182
00:55:35,893 --> 00:55:39,253
Speaker 21: because they know that these kids would vote left because

1183
00:55:39,333 --> 00:55:42,813
Speaker 21: it isn't until you get in your early twenties and

1184
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:45,813
Speaker 21: that sort of thing that you suddenly start to realize

1185
00:55:45,813 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 21: what the real world is like. So that's my thoughts

1186
00:55:50,093 --> 00:55:50,733
Speaker 21: on it, don't you.

1187
00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:52,533
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bruce, And a lot of people would agree

1188
00:55:52,573 --> 00:55:53,212
Speaker 3: with that, although it.

1189
00:55:53,173 --> 00:55:55,413
Speaker 2: Is interesting that there's an information coming out of the

1190
00:55:55,413 --> 00:55:58,973
Speaker 2: states in different Western countries that particularly young males are

1191
00:55:59,293 --> 00:56:03,893
Speaker 2: tending right. And you know, and I absolutely I think

1192
00:56:03,893 --> 00:56:06,573
Speaker 2: you're right, Bruce, that there are people on the left

1193
00:56:06,573 --> 00:56:09,013
Speaker 2: that primarily are pushing towards this because they think they're

1194
00:56:09,013 --> 00:56:12,333
Speaker 2: going to get those left leaning votes from the young people,

1195
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:15,893
Speaker 2: but might not play out that way, might not play

1196
00:56:15,893 --> 00:56:18,652
Speaker 2: out the way. There's this whole new wave of conservative

1197
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:25,653
Speaker 2: young men especially, And you know, there's also the factor

1198
00:56:25,693 --> 00:56:28,212
Speaker 2: that whilst some people might listen to their teachers, which

1199
00:56:28,213 --> 00:56:29,853
Speaker 2: are in this country, I mean, I think, if I

1200
00:56:29,853 --> 00:56:34,973
Speaker 2: would agree very left leaning in our schools are hugely

1201
00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:40,893
Speaker 2: left leaning, a lot of people would primarily listen to

1202
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:41,333
Speaker 2: their parents.

1203
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:43,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think you're right. I think a

1204
00:56:43,093 --> 00:56:45,373
Speaker 3: lot of people would be surprised which way a lot

1205
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:47,973
Speaker 3: of sixteen and seventeen year olds might go. Wouldn't be

1206
00:56:48,013 --> 00:56:50,253
Speaker 3: straight to the left is maybe it used to be

1207
00:56:50,373 --> 00:56:53,133
Speaker 3: some time ago, but you're right, a lot of the One.

1208
00:56:53,013 --> 00:56:55,333
Speaker 2: Of the most interesting things with the young people teenagers

1209
00:56:55,333 --> 00:56:58,053
Speaker 2: and into the early twenties is the huge difference in

1210
00:56:58,573 --> 00:57:03,933
Speaker 2: males and females. Males are going increasingly conservative, and females

1211
00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:07,133
Speaker 2: are going increasingly to the left, and it's causing heats

1212
00:57:07,173 --> 00:57:09,333
Speaker 2: of problems in the United States because they can't find

1213
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:12,373
Speaker 2: any common ground. And there's all these young ladies that

1214
00:57:12,413 --> 00:57:16,453
Speaker 2: will not date the conservative boys. Yeah, because you know,

1215
00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:19,133
Speaker 2: they're so indoctrinated by TikTok to think that they're being

1216
00:57:19,133 --> 00:57:21,093
Speaker 2: conservative basically means that you're the devil.

1217
00:57:21,253 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, very interesting.

1218
00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:22,733
Speaker 22: Right.

1219
00:57:22,733 --> 00:57:25,333
Speaker 3: Oh and hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to.

1220
00:57:25,293 --> 00:57:27,373
Speaker 2: Call, Joey, Welcome to the show.

1221
00:57:28,533 --> 00:57:29,573
Speaker 23: Hi, how are you guys?

1222
00:57:29,853 --> 00:57:30,253
Speaker 3: Very good?

1223
00:57:30,253 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 2: Thank you better since you have called. What's your opinion

1224
00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:32,613
Speaker 2: on that?

1225
00:57:33,893 --> 00:57:34,053
Speaker 18: Oh?

1226
00:57:34,093 --> 00:57:36,733
Speaker 23: Well, I just like this part was saying we're not American,

1227
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:41,533
Speaker 23: so I don't know if that's to happen in the States. Yeah,

1228
00:57:41,573 --> 00:57:45,453
Speaker 23: but I want to be a little bit controversial. I

1229
00:57:45,493 --> 00:57:48,653
Speaker 23: would like to see what I think it might be

1230
00:57:48,693 --> 00:57:51,813
Speaker 23: a good idea for us to actually legalize sixteen year

1231
00:57:51,853 --> 00:57:54,933
Speaker 23: old girls females. Why heny been number to.

1232
00:57:54,893 --> 00:57:57,093
Speaker 2: Vote over males?

1233
00:57:57,573 --> 00:58:01,093
Speaker 23: Yep, and leave the males till they're eighteen, Well like

1234
00:58:01,173 --> 00:58:05,373
Speaker 23: it is currently. Look, it will make a statement globally

1235
00:58:05,413 --> 00:58:10,613
Speaker 23: about what we think about women. It will it will

1236
00:58:10,733 --> 00:58:13,773
Speaker 23: encourage discussion with that age group.

1237
00:58:14,013 --> 00:58:16,013
Speaker 2: You don't think it would encourage resentment.

1238
00:58:19,133 --> 00:58:20,533
Speaker 23: No, because they're not voting anyway.

1239
00:58:21,413 --> 00:58:23,413
Speaker 2: But if you told a bunch of if you told

1240
00:58:23,453 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 2: a bunch of sixteen year old boys that the girls

1241
00:58:25,813 --> 00:58:28,613
Speaker 2: in your class can vote but you can't, you don't

1242
00:58:28,653 --> 00:58:31,213
Speaker 2: think that they might think the world is stacked against

1243
00:58:31,213 --> 00:58:32,653
Speaker 2: them even more than it currently is.

1244
00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:38,533
Speaker 23: No, I think it would motivate them to actually get

1245
00:58:38,573 --> 00:58:39,853
Speaker 23: an understand politics.

1246
00:58:40,573 --> 00:58:41,693
Speaker 12: I've been controversial.

1247
00:58:45,013 --> 00:58:47,813
Speaker 23: I'm thinking outside the square. You know, obviously, we were

1248
00:58:47,813 --> 00:58:49,893
Speaker 23: the first ones to give the woman the vote in

1249
00:58:49,933 --> 00:58:53,973
Speaker 23: the world, and globally it's a problem that people don't vote,

1250
00:58:54,093 --> 00:58:57,773
Speaker 23: and it's because younger generations aren't engaged. Sometimes you have

1251
00:58:57,813 --> 00:59:01,133
Speaker 23: to do something, maybe a little bit controversial, to actually

1252
00:59:01,213 --> 00:59:04,013
Speaker 23: get people to talk about it and realize the value

1253
00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:04,533
Speaker 23: in voting.

1254
00:59:05,293 --> 00:59:05,693
Speaker 20: I'm just.

1255
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:10,813
Speaker 2: Do you think that what what? What do you think

1256
00:59:10,893 --> 00:59:13,853
Speaker 2: that young women have that young men don't. That would

1257
00:59:13,893 --> 00:59:16,413
Speaker 2: mean that young women should get the vote over young men.

1258
00:59:17,773 --> 00:59:22,613
Speaker 23: Okay, Well, you know, coming from my family, you've got

1259
00:59:23,493 --> 00:59:31,053
Speaker 23: raised four boys and two girls, and that they're my

1260
00:59:31,173 --> 00:59:33,413
Speaker 23: nephews and nieces. But I have had them in my

1261
00:59:33,453 --> 00:59:35,533
Speaker 23: home and I've raised them and been very active in

1262
00:59:35,533 --> 00:59:40,413
Speaker 23: their lives. And I can see that the girls would

1263
00:59:40,493 --> 00:59:44,613
Speaker 23: give a lot more consideration and thought and it would

1264
00:59:44,733 --> 00:59:50,093
Speaker 23: just cause family discussion about voting, right, And I think

1265
00:59:50,093 --> 00:59:53,453
Speaker 23: that it would just bring the discussion of voting to

1266
00:59:53,493 --> 00:59:56,533
Speaker 23: the forefront within the hubs of New Zealand, which were

1267
00:59:56,973 --> 00:59:57,853
Speaker 23: our family unit.

1268
00:59:58,413 --> 01:00:00,413
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, have you seen the stats though on

1269
01:00:00,493 --> 01:00:05,093
Speaker 2: how twisted young ladies are getting by social media and

1270
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:08,093
Speaker 2: the terrible effect it's having on them, more so even

1271
01:00:08,133 --> 01:00:11,133
Speaker 2: than in boys. If you read the likes of the

1272
01:00:11,173 --> 01:00:14,253
Speaker 2: writing of Jonathan Height, So it seems that young girls

1273
01:00:14,333 --> 01:00:18,013
Speaker 2: are getting young women are getting dragged down some pretty

1274
01:00:18,293 --> 01:00:21,693
Speaker 2: terrifying rabbit holes online.

1275
01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:22,533
Speaker 9: Yep.

1276
01:00:22,813 --> 01:00:25,293
Speaker 23: But I would also say that there is an opportunity

1277
01:00:25,293 --> 01:00:28,013
Speaker 23: for them to have a different discussion, for us to say, hey,

1278
01:00:28,053 --> 01:00:31,413
Speaker 23: you know what, we think that you're smart enough to vote.

1279
01:00:31,613 --> 01:00:33,453
Speaker 23: We think that you should have an opinion on this.

1280
01:00:33,653 --> 01:00:35,893
Speaker 23: We think that you should think about your country. We

1281
01:00:35,933 --> 01:00:38,853
Speaker 23: think we should think about the communities that you live in,

1282
01:00:39,253 --> 01:00:41,893
Speaker 23: about where the direction of our country, where we're going.

1283
01:00:42,053 --> 01:00:44,853
Speaker 23: We think that you're worth investing in. And this is

1284
01:00:45,293 --> 01:00:49,453
Speaker 23: a statement that we're making to you as a woman

1285
01:00:50,093 --> 01:00:51,413
Speaker 23: and did years ago.

1286
01:00:51,493 --> 01:00:53,453
Speaker 2: We're doing it again, but wouldn't you be making the

1287
01:00:53,493 --> 01:00:56,613
Speaker 2: exact opposite statement to the boys. You're saying, I don't

1288
01:00:56,613 --> 01:00:58,293
Speaker 2: think that you should be involved in the country. I

1289
01:00:58,333 --> 01:01:00,933
Speaker 2: don't think you should think about the issues, and you're

1290
01:01:00,933 --> 01:01:02,933
Speaker 2: not really a part of this whole system.

1291
01:01:04,773 --> 01:01:10,133
Speaker 23: I I yeh, yeh no. And I totally hear that

1292
01:01:10,133 --> 01:01:13,453
Speaker 23: that side of the argument as well. And that's why

1293
01:01:13,493 --> 01:01:16,173
Speaker 23: what I'm saying is controversial because we're.

1294
01:01:16,053 --> 01:01:20,013
Speaker 2: Good on joe Joey, good good on you being controversial.

1295
01:01:20,053 --> 01:01:22,013
Speaker 3: We love it because it sounds almost like, I mean,

1296
01:01:22,013 --> 01:01:24,133
Speaker 3: you've got to step further than I have. But it

1297
01:01:24,173 --> 01:01:26,773
Speaker 3: sounds like a similar tenant to your argument that by

1298
01:01:26,853 --> 01:01:29,773
Speaker 3: doing that isn't be controversial. And we're upset a lot

1299
01:01:29,773 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 3: of people and boys of that age, But that might

1300
01:01:32,093 --> 01:01:34,613
Speaker 3: make them give a damn and actually take voting seriously.

1301
01:01:35,453 --> 01:01:37,573
Speaker 8: It might make them.

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Speaker 23: It also might make them actually go, you know, well,

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Speaker 23: this isn't okay. We know what we're doing. We'll lobby

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Speaker 23: government ourselves and lobby our people so that we can

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Speaker 23: we can have the vote, and then of course voting

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Speaker 23: has the If you're upset about it, then rally for change.

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Speaker 23: We're a small country. You can get shit done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's right an anarchist, Joey, I love it.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I think it would motivate young men

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Speaker 2: to burn the whole system to the ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also currently young men are having terrible outcomes in

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Speaker 2: school and are really struggling to get into employment. And

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Speaker 2: if you actually look at the stats, young men are

1315
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Speaker 2: really struggling and young women are currently under the farm

1316
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Speaker 2: of some pretty horrific targeting on social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, I don't know. I think making more reasons for

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Speaker 2: boys to be angry at girls and girls to be

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Speaker 2: angry at boys. I'm not sure, but I love joy

1321
01:02:30,373 --> 01:02:31,053
Speaker 2: throwing it out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to have a say about what

1323
01:02:33,133 --> 01:02:35,013
Speaker 3: Georgia said, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1324
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Speaker 3: the number to call. Headlines with Ray leg coming.

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Speaker 4: Up US talks.

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Speaker 9: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

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Speaker 9: with a blue bubble. The government's creating an anti corruption group,

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Speaker 9: led by the Serious Fraud Office and supported by police

1329
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Speaker 9: to assess corruption and risks within the government. Auckland's Chamber

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Speaker 9: Business chamber head says Auckland is the best place for

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Speaker 9: the new Institute for Advanced technology. It'll focus on commercial

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01:03:03,933 --> 01:03:08,533
Speaker 9: uses of the AI, quantum computing and synthetic biology. The

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Speaker 9: governments announced the tech Arm of replacements for our Crown

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Speaker 9: Research Institutes will open next year. Customs has seized more

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Speaker 9: than sixty kilos of methamphetamine at Auckland Airport overnight in

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Speaker 9: vacuum sealed packages inside to accompanied Duffel bags from Malaysia.

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Speaker 9: An Auckland pizza shop owner has become the first person

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Speaker 9: to be sentenced for using electronic tools to dodge tax.

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Speaker 9: Amazon's online streaming service Prime Video is adding adverts from

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Speaker 9: August twenty six unless people pay an extra two dollars

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Speaker 9: ninety nine. Treasury announcers are second restructure thirty five rolls

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Speaker 9: to go, but new roles created. You can find out

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Speaker 9: more at Ins and Herald Premium are back to Matteathan

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Speaker 9: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylene. So it's a great discussion,

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01:03:58,853 --> 01:04:02,893
Speaker 3: wide ranging discussion about potentially lowering the age two sixteen

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01:04:02,933 --> 01:04:05,773
Speaker 3: as they are going to do in the UK to vote.

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01:04:05,813 --> 01:04:07,693
Speaker 2: But Joy rang up and threw a dead cat on

1349
01:04:07,733 --> 01:04:11,973
Speaker 2: the table. Did she said that young girls should have

1350
01:04:12,053 --> 01:04:14,293
Speaker 2: their should be able to vote at sixteen, but boys

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01:04:14,293 --> 01:04:17,013
Speaker 2: should remain till eighteen. My dead cat I was throwing

1352
01:04:17,013 --> 01:04:18,373
Speaker 2: on the table is I think that no one should

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01:04:18,373 --> 01:04:20,413
Speaker 2: be able to vote to their twenty five. But there

1354
01:04:20,453 --> 01:04:23,493
Speaker 2: seems to be a lot of messandry in the world

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01:04:23,493 --> 01:04:25,973
Speaker 2: at the moment. There's so many people that are texting

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01:04:26,013 --> 01:04:28,973
Speaker 2: in that just saying that men are idiots and that

1357
01:04:29,173 --> 01:04:31,973
Speaker 2: we should take rights off men. I think that's a

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01:04:32,053 --> 01:04:34,493
Speaker 2: very risky way to look at the world because we're

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01:04:34,493 --> 01:04:36,653
Speaker 2: in this together. We are two sides of a coin.

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01:04:37,173 --> 01:04:40,413
Speaker 2: And you don't want a society worth a whole cohort

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01:04:40,493 --> 01:04:43,333
Speaker 2: of young men that don't feel like they're part of society,

1362
01:04:43,373 --> 01:04:45,933
Speaker 2: because those are those are the type of cohorts that

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01:04:45,973 --> 01:04:48,733
Speaker 2: will burn society to the ground exactly. If you don't

1364
01:04:48,773 --> 01:04:52,213
Speaker 2: involve them and respect them and give them opportunities to thrive,

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01:04:52,813 --> 01:04:56,733
Speaker 2: then good luck for the future of your society. Hey, guys,

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01:04:57,253 --> 01:04:59,893
Speaker 2: how you doing. I'm sixty year old male. I agree

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01:04:59,893 --> 01:05:02,293
Speaker 2: with Joyce seeing sixteen year old females have more sense

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01:05:02,333 --> 01:05:05,413
Speaker 2: than their counterparts. She's shamee. Yeah, I don't know. I've

1369
01:05:05,413 --> 01:05:08,813
Speaker 2: seen some pretty crazy stuff from sixteen year old seventeen

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01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:13,613
Speaker 2: year old females. Ah get a mark, Welcome to the show.

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01:05:15,653 --> 01:05:15,813
Speaker 4: Mark.

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01:05:15,893 --> 01:05:16,333
Speaker 20: Yeah, get a.

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Speaker 24: Boys getting on here. I just had to die for

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01:05:19,413 --> 01:05:24,613
Speaker 24: the phone. I was just thinking, So these sixteen and

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01:05:24,653 --> 01:05:26,973
Speaker 24: seventeen year olds, they want to be treated like adults,

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01:05:27,013 --> 01:05:28,053
Speaker 24: right when?

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01:05:28,133 --> 01:05:28,333
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:05:29,573 --> 01:05:33,853
Speaker 24: Yeah, So what happens Are they going to get treated

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01:05:34,373 --> 01:05:36,693
Speaker 24: like adults when they go up against the justice system

1380
01:05:37,013 --> 01:05:41,013
Speaker 24: and get adult adult sentences and see that the slap

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01:05:41,053 --> 01:05:43,173
Speaker 24: on the wrist they get now is sixteen and seventeen

1382
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Speaker 24: year olds.

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01:05:43,813 --> 01:05:45,613
Speaker 2: It would have to all come out. It would have

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01:05:45,653 --> 01:05:46,333
Speaker 2: to come in with that.

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01:05:48,013 --> 01:05:48,333
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: So if they couldn't have the old enough and smart

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01:05:50,973 --> 01:05:56,653
Speaker 24: enough to an intelligent enough to vote, then obviously they

1388
01:05:56,653 --> 01:06:01,493
Speaker 24: should be able to I don't know what's the kind

1389
01:06:01,533 --> 01:06:05,133
Speaker 24: of thing of a bloody word here. They should be.

1390
01:06:05,693 --> 01:06:07,373
Speaker 3: Adult lawys should apply to them as well.

1391
01:06:07,453 --> 01:06:10,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, in which case would you say that? Would you?

1392
01:06:10,373 --> 01:06:12,253
Speaker 2: In which case would you say that they have to

1393
01:06:12,253 --> 01:06:14,853
Speaker 2: be able to drink and join the armed services all

1394
01:06:14,853 --> 01:06:16,173
Speaker 2: those kinds of things. You're allowed to go to the

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01:06:16,173 --> 01:06:17,053
Speaker 2: pub at sixteen.

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01:06:19,093 --> 01:06:20,133
Speaker 6: Well, if that's what they want.

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01:06:20,133 --> 01:06:22,253
Speaker 24: If that's what they want, they get the whole hog

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01:06:23,133 --> 01:06:27,013
Speaker 24: way through to getting sentenced like like adults and on.

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01:06:27,053 --> 01:06:31,013
Speaker 3: That would mean something that you'd agree with it if

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01:06:31,013 --> 01:06:33,053
Speaker 3: we go the full vote.

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01:06:34,013 --> 01:06:34,613
Speaker 5: Now I'm with.

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01:06:34,653 --> 01:06:37,133
Speaker 24: Matt Frecking, keep them away as long as probable.

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01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:40,453
Speaker 2: There it is good on your Mark, thanks for your call.

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01:06:41,253 --> 01:06:45,613
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Mark, Richie, your thoughts, Ah.

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01:06:46,533 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 11: The last one I kind of said. What I want

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01:06:48,213 --> 01:06:51,653
Speaker 11: to bring up is well, what age does the courts

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01:06:52,133 --> 01:06:53,373
Speaker 11: classic could as an adult?

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01:06:54,293 --> 01:06:56,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the UK do you know, Tyler in

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01:06:56,493 --> 01:06:59,813
Speaker 2: the UK, whether they change that or people as a situation,

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01:06:59,893 --> 01:07:03,093
Speaker 2: they can vote, but they're still being treated as children

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01:07:03,173 --> 01:07:04,653
Speaker 2: and children in the eyes of the law.

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01:07:04,893 --> 01:07:08,213
Speaker 3: It's a fair question. They can join the army at

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01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,773
Speaker 3: sixteen in the UK, they have to be eighteen here,

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01:07:10,853 --> 01:07:13,453
Speaker 3: but in terms of how they treat a sixteen and

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01:07:13,493 --> 01:07:16,133
Speaker 3: seventeen year old when they are when they commit an offense,

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Speaker 3: I believe, and again we'll look this up, but I

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01:07:18,573 --> 01:07:20,893
Speaker 3: believe it's a similar system to us that there are

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01:07:22,133 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 3: more minor sentences and punishments if you commit crimes at

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01:07:26,733 --> 01:07:27,373
Speaker 3: that age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say if you I

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01:07:29,813 --> 01:07:32,173
Speaker 2: totally agree, Richie. I would think if you lie the

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01:07:32,373 --> 01:07:35,173
Speaker 2: voting age to sixteen, then you're saying okay, as a society,

1423
01:07:35,213 --> 01:07:38,373
Speaker 2: we think that you're a full member of society. Let's go,

1424
01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:40,733
Speaker 2: you know, and that means if you commit a crime,

1425
01:07:40,813 --> 01:07:44,333
Speaker 2: then there's no there's no getting out of it because

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01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:47,653
Speaker 2: you're too juvenile and you're not fully your brain's not

1427
01:07:47,693 --> 01:07:49,853
Speaker 2: fully formed enough to make the right decisions. Well, then

1428
01:07:49,893 --> 01:07:52,893
Speaker 2: your brain's not fully formed enough to vote.

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01:07:53,533 --> 01:07:56,253
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have a problem with that, Richie, in

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01:07:56,293 --> 01:07:59,213
Speaker 3: all honesty, If we consider that it's a fair justice

1431
01:07:59,213 --> 01:08:01,653
Speaker 3: system for an adult that commits a crime, I think

1432
01:08:01,693 --> 01:08:04,013
Speaker 3: it makes sense that it'll be a fair justice system

1433
01:08:04,053 --> 01:08:05,893
Speaker 3: for a sixteen or a seventeen year old that commits

1434
01:08:05,893 --> 01:08:06,653
Speaker 3: a similar offense.

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Speaker 11: Also, I can't agree with the other lady. But if

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Speaker 11: we've got these young kids s having babies, you know,

1437
01:08:15,213 --> 01:08:19,933
Speaker 11: that's quite a thing to bring up a baby in

1438
01:08:19,973 --> 01:08:22,452
Speaker 11: this world, shouldn't they have a right to vote?

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01:08:23,773 --> 01:08:27,173
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what you know, because they've got skin

1440
01:08:27,213 --> 01:08:29,012
Speaker 2: in the game now, because they've got they've got children

1441
01:08:29,093 --> 01:08:32,053
Speaker 2: in this world. It's yeah, yeah, Well that's an interesting one,

1442
01:08:32,093 --> 01:08:34,812
Speaker 2: isn't it. The amount of responsibility you get lumped on

1443
01:08:34,853 --> 01:08:36,692
Speaker 2: you because a lot of people are texting through. If

1444
01:08:36,732 --> 01:08:39,293
Speaker 2: you're not paying tax, you shouldn't vote. So if you're

1445
01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,532
Speaker 2: sixteen and you're still living at home. And it is interesting,

1446
01:08:41,572 --> 01:08:45,652
Speaker 2: isn't it, because the government recently is looking into when

1447
01:08:45,692 --> 01:08:48,013
Speaker 2: you can get the benefit. Yeah, and they've raised that

1448
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 2: age if you're living at home. Yeah.

1449
01:08:50,333 --> 01:08:52,652
Speaker 3: So that's a difficult one though, isn't it, because then

1450
01:08:52,692 --> 01:08:55,932
Speaker 3: effectively saying that if you don't have a job, then

1451
01:08:56,293 --> 01:08:58,812
Speaker 3: you're not going to vote. Not just sixteen and seventeen

1452
01:08:58,893 --> 01:09:00,492
Speaker 3: year olds. It's across the board, really, isn't it.

1453
01:09:01,452 --> 01:09:04,372
Speaker 2: The whole thing with children though, is we've got this

1454
01:09:04,612 --> 01:09:07,852
Speaker 2: horrific population collapse problem at the moment. Yeah, so you

1455
01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:09,452
Speaker 2: don't want to you don't want to stop people from

1456
01:09:09,452 --> 01:09:10,772
Speaker 2: having kids when they're young.

1457
01:09:10,933 --> 01:09:14,652
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, arguably sixteen and seventeen year olds have babies.

1458
01:09:14,652 --> 01:09:15,093
Speaker 3: We need them.

1459
01:09:15,133 --> 01:09:19,412
Speaker 2: Well maybe that's a little early twenties, and twenty one

1460
01:09:19,452 --> 01:09:19,973
Speaker 2: is a good age to.

1461
01:09:19,973 --> 01:09:21,333
Speaker 3: Have a baby. That is a good age. Oh, eight

1462
01:09:21,452 --> 01:09:23,253
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1463
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:25,492
Speaker 3: Will play some messages and come back. We got plenty

1464
01:09:25,492 --> 01:09:27,372
Speaker 3: of calls. But if you can't get through, keep trying.

1465
01:09:27,412 --> 01:09:30,732
Speaker 3: And if you want to tax nine to nine to two, the.

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01:09:30,772 --> 01:09:34,732
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

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01:09:34,772 --> 01:09:38,412
Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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01:09:38,412 --> 01:09:40,972
Speaker 3: It'd be very good. Afternoons you're having a great discussion

1469
01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:43,093
Speaker 3: about the voting age. So in the UK they are

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01:09:43,133 --> 01:09:45,253
Speaker 3: going to make it legal for sixteen and seventeen year

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01:09:45,293 --> 01:09:46,532
Speaker 3: olds to vote in the next election.

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01:09:46,772 --> 01:09:50,492
Speaker 2: This this weird cat. I don't know. I guess it's

1473
01:09:50,812 --> 01:09:53,572
Speaker 2: complexity here. So people are saying if there's sixteen and

1474
01:09:53,612 --> 01:09:55,293
Speaker 2: they have children, they should be able to vote because

1475
01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:58,773
Speaker 2: they've got skin in the game because of the world.

1476
01:09:58,933 --> 01:10:01,133
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people say that the way

1477
01:10:01,173 --> 01:10:03,933
Speaker 2: people view the world is quite strange now because it

1478
01:10:04,053 --> 01:10:07,572
Speaker 2: changes massively when you have kids. In fact, they tracking

1479
01:10:08,492 --> 01:10:11,693
Speaker 2: conservative views in life, and people tending towards being conservative

1480
01:10:12,213 --> 01:10:15,333
Speaker 2: doesn't track with age at tracks with having kids, right,

1481
01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:17,652
Speaker 2: because people want to protect the world to make it

1482
01:10:17,652 --> 01:10:20,412
Speaker 2: safe for their kids or whatever. But it's an odd

1483
01:10:20,452 --> 01:10:22,372
Speaker 2: idea that you say, if you're sixteen, it proves that

1484
01:10:22,412 --> 01:10:25,253
Speaker 2: you're responsible, so you could have you could vote, and

1485
01:10:25,253 --> 01:10:27,572
Speaker 2: when you're sixteen it's like I think generally you think

1486
01:10:27,612 --> 01:10:29,412
Speaker 2: if you have it, if you're pregnant at sixteen, you

1487
01:10:29,492 --> 01:10:31,692
Speaker 2: might have made some interesting choices.

1488
01:10:31,772 --> 01:10:34,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was at some point that might have not

1489
01:10:34,732 --> 01:10:36,253
Speaker 3: been quite as clever as you thought.

1490
01:10:36,253 --> 01:10:39,133
Speaker 2: It was sort of goes both ways. Gary, Welcome to

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01:10:39,173 --> 01:10:39,452
Speaker 2: the show.

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01:10:40,412 --> 01:10:45,452
Speaker 25: How are you very good things? Gary's good, guys. I

1493
01:10:45,492 --> 01:10:49,612
Speaker 25: think I'm just blowing your talk out of the windows.

1494
01:10:50,293 --> 01:10:50,572
Speaker 3: Okay.

1495
01:10:51,253 --> 01:10:53,893
Speaker 25: I was when I was a young fella. I was

1496
01:10:53,973 --> 01:10:58,093
Speaker 25: minding my own business at work, YadA YadA ya. Right, yep,

1497
01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:02,012
Speaker 25: nineteen right, and I hadn't had any children or anything,

1498
01:11:02,973 --> 01:11:05,372
Speaker 25: and the wall was still down. Now do you know

1499
01:11:05,412 --> 01:11:10,972
Speaker 25: the war that I'm trn about, Vietnam? Hello, my boss

1500
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:13,772
Speaker 25: called me up. I said, I'll go and meet a mire.

1501
01:11:14,772 --> 01:11:17,892
Speaker 25: So this was the Hamilton post Office. You go off

1502
01:11:17,933 --> 01:11:20,013
Speaker 25: into the doors when that was still going and you

1503
01:11:20,093 --> 01:11:23,013
Speaker 25: went over to the right, and I signed in for

1504
01:11:23,093 --> 01:11:25,612
Speaker 25: that war. Now, this is how it went for me.

1505
01:11:26,093 --> 01:11:28,732
Speaker 25: I was nineteen in that state, no children in the light,

1506
01:11:29,293 --> 01:11:34,772
Speaker 25: YadA YadA yah. Yeah, and the rest is history. I

1507
01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:36,093
Speaker 25: won't go under the rest of us.

1508
01:11:36,372 --> 01:11:36,532
Speaker 24: See.

1509
01:11:36,893 --> 01:11:39,093
Speaker 3: So, Gary, are you saying, if you're young enough to

1510
01:11:39,692 --> 01:11:43,333
Speaker 3: sign up to the military, you should get sign up, right?

1511
01:11:43,452 --> 01:11:47,492
Speaker 25: Yeah? What actually happened is all my family at war

1512
01:11:47,572 --> 01:11:53,652
Speaker 25: veterans and my birthday come out my birthday and YadA yah,

1513
01:11:53,732 --> 01:11:56,093
Speaker 25: the other pulled me in and that war was still

1514
01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:59,053
Speaker 25: going when I signed to go to a war, to

1515
01:11:59,213 --> 01:12:03,092
Speaker 25: that war, right, and I was only nineteen, No children, nothing.

1516
01:12:03,532 --> 01:12:06,013
Speaker 25: So what I'm trying to point out here is you

1517
01:12:06,133 --> 01:12:10,612
Speaker 25: go back to these young bills. Did have had babies

1518
01:12:10,652 --> 01:12:16,933
Speaker 25: at sixteen, seventeen or eighting? Whatever? Yeah, yep, that was

1519
01:12:16,933 --> 01:12:19,253
Speaker 25: a shot to me. It was a real shot, sir.

1520
01:12:19,532 --> 01:12:20,412
Speaker 3: I bet it was gearing.

1521
01:12:21,173 --> 01:12:23,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call. So I'm a little

1522
01:12:23,452 --> 01:12:26,852
Speaker 2: bit confused though. So we didn't have conscription for Vietnam

1523
01:12:26,893 --> 01:12:30,372
Speaker 2: War in New Zealand, though, Garrett did we We didn't

1524
01:12:30,412 --> 01:12:34,372
Speaker 2: have conscription for Vietnam War in New Zealand, though, did we?

1525
01:12:34,412 --> 01:12:34,732
Speaker 8: Oh?

1526
01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:36,213
Speaker 25: They hauled me into it?

1527
01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:38,612
Speaker 3: Oh right, your parents forced you to do it?

1528
01:12:39,652 --> 01:12:43,012
Speaker 25: No, no, won did the army called me up?

1529
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:44,612
Speaker 3: Right?

1530
01:12:44,772 --> 01:12:44,972
Speaker 2: Wow?

1531
01:12:45,412 --> 01:12:48,532
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for your call. Oh, one hundred and

1532
01:12:48,532 --> 01:12:50,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number call. We're getting plenty

1533
01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:55,133
Speaker 3: of tacks on nine two ninety two as well.

1534
01:12:55,532 --> 01:12:57,893
Speaker 2: In no way should I pimply ask teenager have the

1535
01:12:57,933 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 2: same voting rights as me, that's dean.

1536
01:12:59,893 --> 01:13:01,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is what a lot of people are saying,

1537
01:13:01,933 --> 01:13:03,732
Speaker 3: not in those words. That's very nicely put Dean.

1538
01:13:04,532 --> 01:13:07,972
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, there are that many sixteen year old girls

1539
01:13:07,973 --> 01:13:10,173
Speaker 2: and boys that don't even know what they want to

1540
01:13:10,213 --> 01:13:12,692
Speaker 2: do for a job, let alone get their heads out

1541
01:13:12,732 --> 01:13:15,932
Speaker 2: of social media and ridiculous influencers out there, including encouraging

1542
01:13:15,973 --> 01:13:18,412
Speaker 2: people to identify as cats, et cetera. It's a very

1543
01:13:18,492 --> 01:13:21,452
Speaker 2: dangerous pass to start allowing juveniles to have any form

1544
01:13:21,452 --> 01:13:24,173
Speaker 2: of control or influence on the government how the government

1545
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:26,852
Speaker 2: runs a country. Yeah, well, I mean I think that

1546
01:13:26,893 --> 01:13:28,612
Speaker 2: I think you shouldn't be able to vote till your

1547
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:32,973
Speaker 2: twenty five because your prefrontal cortexs hasn't fully developed yet,

1548
01:13:33,053 --> 01:13:36,372
Speaker 2: so you can't you know, your ability to plan. You know,

1549
01:13:36,492 --> 01:13:40,572
Speaker 2: that's why insurance is interesting for people under twenty five.

1550
01:13:41,013 --> 01:13:43,372
Speaker 3: So you're for insurance. You've got the scientific backing for

1551
01:13:43,772 --> 01:13:47,053
Speaker 3: your argument. I mean, my argument is pretty tenuous, to

1552
01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:49,372
Speaker 3: be honest, but it is about trying to get more

1553
01:13:49,412 --> 01:13:52,973
Speaker 3: people down to the voting bowl for the local body elections.

1554
01:13:52,973 --> 01:13:55,412
Speaker 3: And if people are so outraged by sixteen and seventeen

1555
01:13:55,452 --> 01:13:57,452
Speaker 3: year old's being able to vote, that will get them

1556
01:13:57,492 --> 01:14:00,213
Speaker 3: off the couchs, off their bum and down and actually vote.

1557
01:14:00,213 --> 01:14:02,612
Speaker 3: Because only forty of us percent forty percent of us

1558
01:14:02,652 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 3: give a damn about local body.

1559
01:14:03,812 --> 01:14:06,253
Speaker 2: Well, how many sixteen and seventeen year olds are they're

1560
01:14:06,253 --> 01:14:08,213
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. There's probably one hundred thousand.

1561
01:14:08,812 --> 01:14:12,372
Speaker 3: Roughly between or they say one percent and five percent

1562
01:14:12,372 --> 01:14:15,213
Speaker 3: of the population would be in that age bracket.

1563
01:14:15,093 --> 01:14:18,852
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so what between one percent and five percent?

1564
01:14:18,893 --> 01:14:19,812
Speaker 2: That's a huge difference.

1565
01:14:19,933 --> 01:14:22,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sixteen and seventeen year olds make up between

1566
01:14:22,253 --> 01:14:23,892
Speaker 3: one point five and less than five percent of the

1567
01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:28,412
Speaker 3: population in constituencies in New Zealand, the UK, Australia and

1568
01:14:28,492 --> 01:14:29,012
Speaker 3: the US.

1569
01:14:29,213 --> 01:14:31,772
Speaker 2: Well, hang on a minute, this is what we've got

1570
01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:34,812
Speaker 2: rid of the consensus, I mean, not the consensus, the

1571
01:14:34,853 --> 01:14:37,652
Speaker 2: census be between one point five and five.

1572
01:14:37,452 --> 01:14:39,612
Speaker 3: Percent is huge difference there is.

1573
01:14:39,652 --> 01:14:41,612
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's not five percent of the population

1574
01:14:41,692 --> 01:14:43,692
Speaker 2: that are between sixteen and seventeen.

1575
01:14:43,732 --> 01:14:45,812
Speaker 3: We'll get an exact number on that. But whether it's

1576
01:14:45,893 --> 01:14:49,052
Speaker 3: enough to actually change the outcome that much, I mean.

1577
01:14:49,213 --> 01:14:51,812
Speaker 2: I just don't think people would vote as you know.

1578
01:14:52,133 --> 01:14:53,652
Speaker 2: I know that the left push is hard for this

1579
01:14:53,732 --> 01:14:55,333
Speaker 2: because they think they're all going to vote for them.

1580
01:14:55,412 --> 01:14:57,972
Speaker 2: But you know, I talk to a lot of young people,

1581
01:14:59,053 --> 01:15:01,253
Speaker 2: you know, and I think they might be more conservative

1582
01:15:01,293 --> 01:15:02,053
Speaker 2: than you think they are.

1583
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:04,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is nine to three back with more of

1584
01:15:04,532 --> 01:15:05,533
Speaker 3: your call shortly.

1585
01:15:06,492 --> 01:15:08,932
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you. It's a bit of fun

1586
01:15:08,973 --> 01:15:13,253
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News talks.

1587
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Speaker 3: EDB News talk Ed B. We have been talking about

1588
01:15:16,492 --> 01:15:18,892
Speaker 3: lowering the voting age to sixteen, as they're going to

1589
01:15:18,893 --> 01:15:19,812
Speaker 3: do in the UK.

1590
01:15:20,293 --> 01:15:21,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're just trying to work out the numbers.

1591
01:15:21,812 --> 01:15:24,132
Speaker 2: It's interesting how they do the statistics on the ages

1592
01:15:24,133 --> 01:15:26,612
Speaker 2: of people and they only divide it up in the

1593
01:15:26,612 --> 01:15:29,572
Speaker 2: census between fifteen and nineteen years, so it says there's

1594
01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:32,293
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty four thousand between fifteen and nineteen.

1595
01:15:32,293 --> 01:15:33,612
Speaker 2: So I'm just going to do the math on that

1596
01:15:33,652 --> 01:15:38,173
Speaker 2: and say that we're talking about adding three hundred and

1597
01:15:38,372 --> 01:15:41,572
Speaker 2: maybe one hundred and thirty odd thousand, Roughly one hundred

1598
01:15:41,572 --> 01:15:43,772
Speaker 2: and thirty might be less, maybe more. Have to do

1599
01:15:43,772 --> 01:15:45,892
Speaker 2: a math on it, but let's say it's between one

1600
01:15:45,973 --> 01:15:47,973
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty and one hundred and forty thousand, just

1601
01:15:48,013 --> 01:15:50,372
Speaker 2: to be really vague, that you'd be adding to the

1602
01:15:50,452 --> 01:15:53,173
Speaker 2: voting pool if you brought in what they've brought in

1603
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 2: the UK into New Zealand and allow sixteen and seventeen

1604
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:56,732
Speaker 2: year olds to vote.

1605
01:15:56,772 --> 01:15:59,532
Speaker 3: So the percentage of that in terms of eligible voters,

1606
01:15:59,532 --> 01:16:02,132
Speaker 3: what difference that would make. So there's about four million

1607
01:16:02,173 --> 01:16:05,412
Speaker 3: eligible voters, so a quick calculation in here in the

1608
01:16:05,412 --> 01:16:10,293
Speaker 3: percentage calculator machine would be three point twenty five percent.

1609
01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:12,052
Speaker 3: I mean that could make a difference.

1610
01:16:12,372 --> 01:16:14,852
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely would. But as the text of Steve says,

1611
01:16:14,893 --> 01:16:17,932
Speaker 2: I don't think the kids would give a hoot and

1612
01:16:17,973 --> 01:16:20,333
Speaker 2: the majority of them would not vote. Hence their involvement

1613
01:16:20,372 --> 01:16:22,572
Speaker 2: will be less impacting than people. So you could say,

1614
01:16:23,213 --> 01:16:27,492
Speaker 2: right now, I would be well, much less than fifty

1615
01:16:27,492 --> 01:16:29,612
Speaker 2: percent of those sixteen and seven year olds that would

1616
01:16:29,612 --> 01:16:32,053
Speaker 2: bother getting off techtok long enough to vote. Yeah, I

1617
01:16:32,093 --> 01:16:34,452
Speaker 2: mean that they're much more likely to post an angry

1618
01:16:34,853 --> 01:16:38,093
Speaker 2: social media post and think that their job's done then

1619
01:16:38,532 --> 01:16:40,012
Speaker 2: actually go to a polling booth.

1620
01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:44,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, right, Graham, you reckon. There's another conversation

1621
01:16:45,053 --> 01:16:48,173
Speaker 3: to be had before giving sixteen year olds to vote.

1622
01:16:48,572 --> 01:16:53,452
Speaker 22: Yeah, hey, guys, that's going good. Yeah, a couple of thoughts.

1623
01:16:53,812 --> 01:16:57,732
Speaker 22: I think before you start discussing whether sixteen or seventeen

1624
01:16:57,772 --> 01:16:59,932
Speaker 22: year olds should be given the vote, we should be

1625
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:03,572
Speaker 22: discussing whether or not civics should be a compulsory course

1626
01:17:03,612 --> 01:17:07,173
Speaker 22: in high school. I mean, you ask your average teenager

1627
01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:10,053
Speaker 22: what MMP stands for. I doubt they could tell you.

1628
01:17:10,173 --> 01:17:14,253
Speaker 22: I mean, my kids are reasonably intelligent, and they asked me,

1629
01:17:14,333 --> 01:17:16,333
Speaker 22: did I vote for Christopher Luxean in the last election

1630
01:17:16,492 --> 01:17:19,613
Speaker 22: or did I vote for Chris Hipkins kind had explains

1631
01:17:19,612 --> 01:17:22,333
Speaker 22: to them that you actually vote for the prime minister

1632
01:17:22,812 --> 01:17:25,852
Speaker 22: unless they he or she is standing. There's an electric

1633
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:29,572
Speaker 22: MP and your electorate. You vote for a party and

1634
01:17:29,572 --> 01:17:31,852
Speaker 22: then you vote for the local MP. And similarly with

1635
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:38,772
Speaker 22: local body elections, you have a board for your local area,

1636
01:17:39,053 --> 01:17:41,012
Speaker 22: then you have silos, and then you have a mayor.

1637
01:17:41,213 --> 01:17:44,692
Speaker 22: And I just seriously doubt they understand how any of

1638
01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:46,972
Speaker 22: that works. So I think there's a bit of education

1639
01:17:47,053 --> 01:17:49,293
Speaker 22: to go a long way. You always start throwing them

1640
01:17:49,333 --> 01:17:53,013
Speaker 22: the boat. Yeah, another point I would.

1641
01:17:52,213 --> 01:17:56,732
Speaker 2: Like to make talk about whether or not Graham, are

1642
01:17:56,732 --> 01:17:58,092
Speaker 2: you cycling up ahead or something?

1643
01:17:59,253 --> 01:18:00,973
Speaker 6: No, No, just just walking.

1644
01:18:03,532 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 2: Just quickly because we've got to let you go in

1645
01:18:04,853 --> 01:18:06,093
Speaker 2: about fifteen seconds.

1646
01:18:06,692 --> 01:18:08,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, a very quick point.

1647
01:18:08,612 --> 01:18:10,452
Speaker 26: You talk about whether they're not giving sixty or seventeen

1648
01:18:10,492 --> 01:18:13,053
Speaker 26: year olds to vote. The biggest cohort that I can

1649
01:18:13,053 --> 01:18:15,053
Speaker 26: figure out between eighteen and twenty five year olds that

1650
01:18:15,093 --> 01:18:17,572
Speaker 26: turned out for an election was twenty twenty and it

1651
01:18:17,652 --> 01:18:20,412
Speaker 26: was seventy eight percent. And that year the referendum for

1652
01:18:20,692 --> 01:18:21,972
Speaker 26: marijuana was held.

1653
01:18:22,213 --> 01:18:22,492
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1654
01:18:23,732 --> 01:18:26,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, to get things for the end to care about. Yeah,

1655
01:18:26,492 --> 01:18:28,772
Speaker 3: good on your Graham, Thank you very much. Great discussion

1656
01:18:29,133 --> 01:18:30,333
Speaker 3: news coming up next.

1657
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:36,293
Speaker 1: Your new homes are instateful and entertaining.

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01:18:36,372 --> 01:18:36,652
Speaker 8: Talk.

1659
01:18:36,893 --> 01:18:41,452
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sevy.

1660
01:18:42,492 --> 01:18:45,572
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is seven pass three, the hour of

1661
01:18:45,652 --> 01:18:48,092
Speaker 3: power on a Friday afternoon. Great heavy companies always.

1662
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:51,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for tuning in. We're going to put that voting.

1663
01:18:51,173 --> 01:18:53,612
Speaker 2: Lowering the voting age to sixteen and seventeen like they

1664
01:18:53,612 --> 01:18:55,372
Speaker 2: have in the UK, will put that topic to bed.

1665
01:18:55,412 --> 01:18:58,412
Speaker 2: Whilst the majority of texts and calls were against it,

1666
01:18:59,293 --> 01:19:01,812
Speaker 2: you've got to say that there was a surprising amount

1667
01:19:01,812 --> 01:19:03,893
Speaker 2: of support for it. Certainly wasn't and also quite a

1668
01:19:03,933 --> 01:19:06,492
Speaker 2: lot of anti mail rhetoric coming through. There was and

1669
01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:08,133
Speaker 2: a lot of a woman saying that they didn't think

1670
01:19:08,133 --> 01:19:09,452
Speaker 2: young med should be out to vote.

1671
01:19:09,532 --> 01:19:10,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's controversial.

1672
01:19:10,572 --> 01:19:12,213
Speaker 2: Sexism is alive and well in New Zealand.

1673
01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:15,612
Speaker 3: It certainly is. Yes, Now, before we get to the

1674
01:19:15,652 --> 01:19:19,293
Speaker 3: next topic, there was something that you saw last night, Matt.

1675
01:19:20,732 --> 01:19:23,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, And once you hear it, you can't unhear it.

1676
01:19:23,492 --> 01:19:25,492
Speaker 2: If you've looked at those old three D posters and

1677
01:19:25,532 --> 01:19:27,652
Speaker 2: you'd look at them and you couldn't see the image,

1678
01:19:27,692 --> 01:19:30,892
Speaker 2: and then suddenly it would come into full stark reality,

1679
01:19:30,893 --> 01:19:32,173
Speaker 2: and that's the only way you could see it.

1680
01:19:32,093 --> 01:19:34,092
Speaker 3: Going for magic Eye, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1681
01:19:34,173 --> 01:19:36,692
Speaker 2: So this is the song that I've heard for a

1682
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:39,253
Speaker 2: very long time. It was released in nineteen ninety one

1683
01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:55,972
Speaker 2: ram Losing My Religion and anyway, So Michael Stipe, who's

1684
01:19:56,013 --> 01:19:59,492
Speaker 2: the singer yep, okay, Now listen to this and picture

1685
01:19:59,652 --> 01:20:02,412
Speaker 2: that it's Donald Trump singing.

1686
01:20:02,652 --> 01:20:06,412
Speaker 13: Stigger you you on me?

1687
01:20:08,532 --> 01:20:11,692
Speaker 8: Sad will go you oh my.

1688
01:20:13,572 --> 01:20:13,732
Speaker 4: Right.

1689
01:20:14,372 --> 01:20:17,173
Speaker 2: Once you start hearing it as Donald Trump, it's very

1690
01:20:17,213 --> 01:20:19,853
Speaker 2: hard to stop hearing it that way.

1691
01:20:20,333 --> 01:20:22,053
Speaker 3: Can we turn it up a little bit more?

1692
01:20:22,053 --> 01:20:28,173
Speaker 2: Andrew I said it up. Some people will be hearing it.

1693
01:20:28,532 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 2: They won't be able to hear hear Donald Trump sing it.

1694
01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:33,812
Speaker 2: But once you hear it, it's hard to hear it

1695
01:20:33,812 --> 01:20:34,333
Speaker 2: any other way.

1696
01:20:34,452 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 3: I'll never be able to listen to their song the

1697
01:20:36,293 --> 01:20:38,012
Speaker 3: same again that it's so act.

1698
01:20:40,772 --> 01:20:43,173
Speaker 2: I'm sure Michael Stipe's not very happy about that because

1699
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:46,333
Speaker 2: that's this spread through the internet. Now, Yeah, there's more

1700
01:20:46,333 --> 01:20:49,812
Speaker 2: and more people that will only hear RAM songs being

1701
01:20:49,812 --> 01:20:50,812
Speaker 2: sung by Donald Trump.

1702
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:53,052
Speaker 3: That is so good man, That's why I love the Internet.

1703
01:20:53,093 --> 01:20:53,812
Speaker 3: That sort of stuff.

1704
01:20:54,732 --> 01:20:59,813
Speaker 2: Sad that anyway.

1705
01:20:59,973 --> 01:21:03,812
Speaker 3: Anyway, anyway, Donald Trump singing ra em love it right,

1706
01:21:03,933 --> 01:21:06,612
Speaker 3: coming up very shortly. This is something that we've promoted

1707
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:08,892
Speaker 3: for the last couple of days, but we've been impacked

1708
01:21:08,893 --> 01:21:10,333
Speaker 3: with the other topics. But we're going to get to

1709
01:21:10,372 --> 01:21:13,253
Speaker 3: it very shortly. So fish and.

1710
01:21:13,293 --> 01:21:17,572
Speaker 2: Idiocy, Yeah, absolutely, And so it's on the back of

1711
01:21:17,612 --> 01:21:18,692
Speaker 2: these type pants tiler.

1712
01:21:18,893 --> 01:21:19,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1713
01:21:19,133 --> 01:21:22,572
Speaker 3: So this was a singer and actress, Suki Waterhouse. She's

1714
01:21:22,572 --> 01:21:24,972
Speaker 3: been off X for a long time and her followers

1715
01:21:25,013 --> 01:21:27,612
Speaker 3: are a bit concerned about where she was and why

1716
01:21:27,652 --> 01:21:29,452
Speaker 3: she wasn't on X. And then she came back and

1717
01:21:29,492 --> 01:21:33,412
Speaker 3: here was the tweet she said, Suki, you never tweet anymore.

1718
01:21:33,652 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 3: Have you considered I wore pants so tight six months

1719
01:21:36,333 --> 01:21:39,173
Speaker 3: ago it caused to hernia and I've been too scared

1720
01:21:39,213 --> 01:21:39,652
Speaker 3: to tell you.

1721
01:21:40,692 --> 01:21:48,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what an own goal? Wearing pants so tight

1722
01:21:48,772 --> 01:21:50,933
Speaker 2: that you get a hernia? Yeah, you don't need to

1723
01:21:50,933 --> 01:21:54,013
Speaker 2: wear pants that tight? What is wrong with humans? That

1724
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:57,132
Speaker 2: we do things like this and injure ourselves or even

1725
01:21:57,372 --> 01:22:02,012
Speaker 2: wear clothes. Surely clothes we started wearing them to fight

1726
01:22:02,053 --> 01:22:05,613
Speaker 2: against the elements, right, Yeah, so clothes should be practical.

1727
01:22:05,933 --> 01:22:07,572
Speaker 2: You want them to look good, but first of all,

1728
01:22:07,572 --> 01:22:10,732
Speaker 2: they need to be practic. But all of us do

1729
01:22:11,013 --> 01:22:15,132
Speaker 2: stupid fashion victim things like high heels, for example, massive,

1730
01:22:15,412 --> 01:22:19,412
Speaker 2: I want to know this hour, what's the rationale for

1731
01:22:19,452 --> 01:22:22,333
Speaker 2: high heels? Why would you wear something that's so painful

1732
01:22:22,372 --> 01:22:24,692
Speaker 2: on your feet? Whenever you come home and you've been

1733
01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:26,812
Speaker 2: out with your partner and she's worn high heels, she

1734
01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:29,572
Speaker 2: just can't wait to take them off. Sometimes if the

1735
01:22:29,772 --> 01:22:33,093
Speaker 2: enough drinks have been drunk, then they'll then they'll they'll

1736
01:22:33,133 --> 01:22:36,652
Speaker 2: leave their bar carrying their shoes. But that's just one

1737
01:22:36,652 --> 01:22:39,612
Speaker 2: of many things that we do as human beings that

1738
01:22:40,293 --> 01:22:42,812
Speaker 2: cause us damage. So that's what we want to talk about.

1739
01:22:42,853 --> 01:22:44,532
Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue tattoos are insane.

1740
01:22:44,692 --> 01:22:48,132
Speaker 3: Definitely, piercings pso that's done for fashion, and that causes

1741
01:22:48,133 --> 01:22:51,572
Speaker 3: a lot of pain. Tight skinny jeans I mentioned before

1742
01:22:51,572 --> 01:22:53,772
Speaker 3: and you didn't quite agree with me. But whife ron underwear,

1743
01:22:53,933 --> 01:22:56,812
Speaker 3: why any men man would wear wife front underwear? I've

1744
01:22:56,812 --> 01:23:00,333
Speaker 3: got no idea seven boxes where a god awful setn boxes.

1745
01:23:00,372 --> 01:23:02,532
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would write your deafie duck satin bosses

1746
01:23:02,532 --> 01:23:04,652
Speaker 2: that would ride up the back of your shorts. Yeah,

1747
01:23:04,732 --> 01:23:06,412
Speaker 2: I mean I can talk to you about why people

1748
01:23:06,412 --> 01:23:08,772
Speaker 2: wear wife fronts. It's a throwback to there were long

1749
01:23:08,853 --> 01:23:10,572
Speaker 2: John's and there was only one way to get things out.

1750
01:23:10,572 --> 01:23:11,812
Speaker 2: They used to have a flap at the back.

1751
01:23:11,692 --> 01:23:15,693
Speaker 3: As well, so convenience yeah yeah, yeah, super uncomfortable.

1752
01:23:16,013 --> 01:23:17,892
Speaker 2: So anyway, I one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

1753
01:23:17,973 --> 01:23:20,772
Speaker 2: two niney two. We want to talk about the fashion victim,

1754
01:23:20,853 --> 01:23:23,772
Speaker 2: things that you see out there in the community, or

1755
01:23:23,812 --> 01:23:26,852
Speaker 2: that you have worn in the past or still war

1756
01:23:27,372 --> 01:23:30,333
Speaker 2: we're now in twenty twenty five, yep, and high heels

1757
01:23:30,333 --> 01:23:32,053
Speaker 2: in particular, ladies, why do you do it?

1758
01:23:32,093 --> 01:23:32,213
Speaker 12: Oh?

1759
01:23:32,213 --> 01:23:35,052
Speaker 3: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1760
01:23:35,053 --> 01:23:37,052
Speaker 3: to call right now. It is eleven past.

1761
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:39,452
Speaker 2: Three Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on z

1762
01:23:39,572 --> 01:23:41,692
Speaker 2: B we name the New Zealander of the Week in

1763
01:23:41,692 --> 01:23:43,772
Speaker 2: honor that we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker

1764
01:23:43,812 --> 01:23:46,372
Speaker 2: who's had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful

1765
01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:48,973
Speaker 2: land over the previous seven days. And as always there

1766
01:23:48,973 --> 01:23:52,652
Speaker 2: will be three nominees but only one winner. So without

1767
01:23:52,692 --> 01:23:55,173
Speaker 2: further ado, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New

1768
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:58,492
Speaker 2: Zealand of the Week are Nominee one also gets the

1769
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:01,452
Speaker 2: What a Good Boy Award. A little spotted Kiwi has

1770
01:24:01,492 --> 01:24:03,892
Speaker 2: been spotted on the mainland for the first time in

1771
01:24:03,973 --> 01:24:07,573
Speaker 2: fifty years. Has been hailed as a major West Coast breakthrough.

1772
01:24:07,853 --> 01:24:12,412
Speaker 2: Department conservation ranger Ian Graham confirmed to find this week.

1773
01:24:12,572 --> 01:24:15,012
Speaker 2: But it wasn't Graham that spotted the little spotted Kiwi.

1774
01:24:15,053 --> 01:24:18,093
Speaker 2: It was his German shorthaired pointer by the name of Brew.

1775
01:24:18,333 --> 01:24:19,133
Speaker 2: What a good boy.

1776
01:24:19,492 --> 01:24:21,013
Speaker 3: Brew for sniffing.

1777
01:24:20,572 --> 01:24:24,412
Speaker 2: Out but not munching on, the succulent, delicious little Kiwi bird.

1778
01:24:24,572 --> 01:24:27,692
Speaker 2: You are nominated for New Zealand of the Week, Alessa.

1779
01:24:27,732 --> 01:24:29,812
Speaker 2: Dog like my dog Colin, for example, would have gobbled

1780
01:24:29,812 --> 01:24:31,133
Speaker 2: that little punisher up toots weed.

1781
01:24:31,333 --> 01:24:34,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not you Brew. Good boy, good boy, good boy, brute.

1782
01:24:34,013 --> 01:24:35,572
Speaker 2: And You've been nominated for New Zealand of the Week.

1783
01:24:35,612 --> 01:24:36,173
Speaker 4: What a Good Boy.

1784
01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:39,452
Speaker 2: Nominee two also gets the Delete the apps before you

1785
01:24:39,492 --> 01:24:43,572
Speaker 2: Go Mental Award. She's an entrepreneur and a billionaire who

1786
01:24:43,612 --> 01:24:47,132
Speaker 2: loves a backyard Chopper or two, and she's just announced

1787
01:24:47,133 --> 01:24:49,972
Speaker 2: on LinkedIn this week that she's quitting Instagram and Facebook,

1788
01:24:50,053 --> 01:24:53,132
Speaker 2: saying stepping back from social media has created a space

1789
01:24:53,372 --> 01:24:56,972
Speaker 2: for deeper relationships and better balance in her life. Annimo

1790
01:24:57,053 --> 01:25:00,012
Speaker 2: Brave for quitting on the sosh med and encouraging others

1791
01:25:00,053 --> 01:25:01,852
Speaker 2: to jump off the digital brain right too.

1792
01:25:02,253 --> 01:25:04,213
Speaker 3: You are nominated for New Zealand of the Week.

1793
01:25:04,973 --> 01:25:09,053
Speaker 2: Delete the apps, everyone, Delete the apps, and whatever you do,

1794
01:25:09,053 --> 01:25:12,133
Speaker 2: don't follow me at Matt heathen Z on Instagram. That's

1795
01:25:12,253 --> 01:25:15,692
Speaker 2: Matt heath m Z on Instagram. You'll regret yoga gridit

1796
01:25:16,093 --> 01:25:18,532
Speaker 2: and the winner of New Zealand of the Week also

1797
01:25:18,692 --> 01:25:22,532
Speaker 2: gets the two Balls One Cup Award. A Kiwi father

1798
01:25:22,692 --> 01:25:27,132
Speaker 2: and his son devied seventeen million to one odds this week.

1799
01:25:27,532 --> 01:25:29,932
Speaker 2: Daddy smashes a hole in one on the two hundred

1800
01:25:29,933 --> 01:25:32,852
Speaker 2: and fifty five meter par four at Cullen Links, then

1801
01:25:32,893 --> 01:25:35,612
Speaker 2: the very next shot, his son smashes one into the

1802
01:25:35,732 --> 01:25:41,652
Speaker 2: very same cup. Father and son combination. Kiwi's Jim and

1803
01:25:41,772 --> 01:25:46,492
Speaker 2: Blake Rawstar for executing a mind bogglingly rare double family

1804
01:25:46,532 --> 01:25:49,972
Speaker 2: albatross and then celebrating with a crapload of en course

1805
01:25:50,013 --> 01:25:52,333
Speaker 2: te quila and still making power. On the ninth. You

1806
01:25:52,572 --> 01:25:57,652
Speaker 2: are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of the Week.

1807
01:25:59,253 --> 01:26:00,372
Speaker 3: Take it away, howie.

1808
01:26:00,933 --> 01:26:04,333
Speaker 2: It's the only consecutive father and son holand one on

1809
01:26:04,412 --> 01:26:05,772
Speaker 2: a par four in the world.

1810
01:26:05,893 --> 01:26:09,333
Speaker 3: Ever, so gentleman taste a kiweed legend.

1811
01:26:15,093 --> 01:26:18,333
Speaker 2: Smashed a lot of together by load of sound good work.

1812
01:26:29,652 --> 01:26:33,133
Speaker 3: Afternoon seventeen past three. So let's talk about fashion idiocy.

1813
01:26:33,213 --> 01:26:36,173
Speaker 3: Singer and actress Suki Waterhouse. She suffered hernia because her

1814
01:26:36,213 --> 01:26:39,013
Speaker 3: pants were too tight. So that's what we want to

1815
01:26:39,013 --> 01:26:41,333
Speaker 3: have a chat about the things that we wear that

1816
01:26:41,452 --> 01:26:43,933
Speaker 3: actually cause us pain or make absolutely no sense. I

1817
01:26:43,933 --> 01:26:45,492
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number

1818
01:26:45,492 --> 01:26:45,732
Speaker 3: to call.

1819
01:26:46,213 --> 01:26:48,732
Speaker 2: Someone's pushing back on the whole idea that there are

1820
01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:51,732
Speaker 2: that these are fashion victim things. I was saying before

1821
01:26:51,772 --> 01:26:54,053
Speaker 2: that it's crazy to risk injuring yourself just for the

1822
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:55,852
Speaker 2: way you look. But someone says, we're animals. We have

1823
01:26:55,893 --> 01:26:58,093
Speaker 2: to stand out from the rest, just like a male

1824
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:00,892
Speaker 2: bird showing off its pretty colors to the females. So

1825
01:27:00,893 --> 01:27:02,093
Speaker 2: we're all peacocks, aren't.

1826
01:27:02,133 --> 01:27:05,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. This

1827
01:27:05,652 --> 01:27:12,692
Speaker 3: one says, guys are men must decide on Yeah, maybe

1828
01:27:12,692 --> 01:27:14,053
Speaker 3: I won't. I'll leave that one out for there.

1829
01:27:17,372 --> 01:27:19,372
Speaker 27: I was waiting to hear what there was.

1830
01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:24,053
Speaker 3: I censor it so and then I'll come back. I've

1831
01:27:24,053 --> 01:27:25,412
Speaker 3: just got to I'm just going to change some of

1832
01:27:25,412 --> 01:27:26,333
Speaker 3: the words they used.

1833
01:27:27,253 --> 01:27:31,492
Speaker 27: But look, I'm willing to Miss seventies now and I'm

1834
01:27:31,572 --> 01:27:35,372
Speaker 27: still wearing seven and six inch heels have done for

1835
01:27:35,492 --> 01:27:38,812
Speaker 27: many years. And what has done for me, I call

1836
01:27:38,853 --> 01:27:44,932
Speaker 27: it fash and sensibility. All my leg muscles are very

1837
01:27:44,973 --> 01:27:48,333
Speaker 27: well tied. There's no slip on the legs and when

1838
01:27:48,372 --> 01:27:51,132
Speaker 27: you walk on them, you've got to use your hips

1839
01:27:51,173 --> 01:27:54,173
Speaker 27: to walk, you see, And that's the key to it.

1840
01:27:55,333 --> 01:27:57,212
Speaker 27: And I love Miss seven and heels.

1841
01:27:57,452 --> 01:27:59,412
Speaker 2: So is that why you wear them as as a

1842
01:27:59,412 --> 01:28:00,492
Speaker 2: fitness device?

1843
01:28:01,692 --> 01:28:02,732
Speaker 27: Absolutely?

1844
01:28:03,692 --> 01:28:04,132
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1845
01:28:04,933 --> 01:28:07,452
Speaker 27: I still have the same figure I head years and

1846
01:28:07,572 --> 01:28:11,692
Speaker 27: years ago. But it's the way you probably walk on

1847
01:28:11,772 --> 01:28:15,333
Speaker 27: them because you have to. Well, I do can only

1848
01:28:15,372 --> 01:28:19,093
Speaker 27: talk for me. I use my hips to walk, and

1849
01:28:19,652 --> 01:28:23,052
Speaker 27: my leg muscles are firm ass and it's been really

1850
01:28:23,093 --> 01:28:26,253
Speaker 27: good for me. And if I wear flip shoes or

1851
01:28:26,253 --> 01:28:30,253
Speaker 27: whatever or gum boots at home doing the garden, I

1852
01:28:30,333 --> 01:28:33,173
Speaker 27: feel like I'm walking down hell. It's ridiculous.

1853
01:28:34,093 --> 01:28:35,812
Speaker 2: So when you're at your seven inch heels, do they

1854
01:28:35,853 --> 01:28:39,492
Speaker 2: have like a block a block around the toe or.

1855
01:28:39,772 --> 01:28:44,253
Speaker 27: They're quite eloquant looking, But they're not. My foot's not

1856
01:28:45,253 --> 01:28:48,293
Speaker 27: really pointed down to the ground and up. It's not

1857
01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:54,253
Speaker 27: a stiletto. It's kind of those semi platforms. But I'm

1858
01:28:55,253 --> 01:28:58,812
Speaker 27: still wearing shoes I had in the seventies as well.

1859
01:28:59,093 --> 01:29:01,852
Speaker 2: Wow, And what about do you worry that you won't

1860
01:29:01,853 --> 01:29:05,613
Speaker 2: be able to if there's I don't know, an earthquake, volcano,

1861
01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:08,652
Speaker 2: or some kind of emergency that you're that you're quick

1862
01:29:08,732 --> 01:29:11,253
Speaker 2: enough to get away and save yourself on these seven

1863
01:29:11,253 --> 01:29:11,892
Speaker 2: inch heels.

1864
01:29:12,173 --> 01:29:15,973
Speaker 27: So I can run well in the Maine. Really, you,

1865
01:29:16,253 --> 01:29:20,733
Speaker 27: My legs are really strong because I've got good muscles.

1866
01:29:21,452 --> 01:29:23,892
Speaker 27: All my friends that are much younger than me, their

1867
01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:25,213
Speaker 27: legs are all flairby.

1868
01:29:25,532 --> 01:29:28,333
Speaker 3: Do you you just say, do you get comments about

1869
01:29:28,333 --> 01:29:29,012
Speaker 3: your calf muscles?

1870
01:29:29,013 --> 01:29:29,213
Speaker 5: Suit?

1871
01:29:29,293 --> 01:29:31,853
Speaker 3: Do people say, well, so you've got some good caffees.

1872
01:29:33,053 --> 01:29:36,692
Speaker 27: Argue a lot of compliments. And also we're always gone,

1873
01:29:37,893 --> 01:29:42,372
Speaker 27: not cutting the circulation, but I always scun skun tight

1874
01:29:42,532 --> 01:29:46,012
Speaker 27: pants like tights, set and tights and all that sort

1875
01:29:46,013 --> 01:29:49,653
Speaker 27: of thing. I still think I'm thirty one mate.

1876
01:29:51,173 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 2: Wow, But at the end of the night, Sue, when

1877
01:29:53,572 --> 01:29:56,372
Speaker 2: you come home, does it feel good? Because you know,

1878
01:29:56,452 --> 01:29:58,852
Speaker 2: there's that that cliche and we've all seen it. Just

1879
01:29:59,572 --> 01:30:02,133
Speaker 2: get home, Thank god. I can take these heels off

1880
01:30:02,213 --> 01:30:02,612
Speaker 2: right now.

1881
01:30:05,213 --> 01:30:09,572
Speaker 27: None of it no feel good and it makes me

1882
01:30:10,253 --> 01:30:13,973
Speaker 27: feel good. And okay, some people look at me sideways,

1883
01:30:14,093 --> 01:30:17,932
Speaker 27: but that's all right. I'll discovered them a lovely smile.

1884
01:30:18,293 --> 01:30:20,532
Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Good on you, Good on you.

1885
01:30:20,652 --> 01:30:22,972
Speaker 2: It seems like it's working for you. Yeah, you can,

1886
01:30:23,133 --> 01:30:26,253
Speaker 2: you can, you can operate them at pace there, they're

1887
01:30:26,293 --> 01:30:29,213
Speaker 2: working good for you, for your legs. So for bless you.

1888
01:30:29,372 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, you're not a fashion victim.

1889
01:30:32,572 --> 01:30:37,532
Speaker 27: Oh no fashion, I'm a benefactor from other.

1890
01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:40,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on, a fashion benefactor.

1891
01:30:40,532 --> 01:30:42,333
Speaker 3: Oh on one hundred and eighty ten eighty. I look

1892
01:30:42,412 --> 01:30:44,093
Speaker 3: so sold that well, but I still don't get them.

1893
01:30:44,173 --> 01:30:46,213
Speaker 3: High heels to me make absolutely no sense. And as

1894
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:48,452
Speaker 3: you mentioned it before, my partner's the same. She just

1895
01:30:48,492 --> 01:30:50,692
Speaker 3: complained so much every time she gets home from work

1896
01:30:50,692 --> 01:30:53,692
Speaker 3: and whips off the high heels, and it just seems

1897
01:30:53,732 --> 01:30:55,452
Speaker 3: like a bygone era. I mean, what does it really do?

1898
01:30:55,612 --> 01:30:57,772
Speaker 3: Like I'm saying, this is a fella. When I look

1899
01:30:57,772 --> 01:31:01,133
Speaker 3: at women with high heels, I can't understand what is

1900
01:31:01,173 --> 01:31:03,173
Speaker 3: the reason. I imagine part of it is to be

1901
01:31:03,213 --> 01:31:06,333
Speaker 3: a bit taller for that social status element. Clearly there's

1902
01:31:06,372 --> 01:31:10,093
Speaker 3: something there in history that they are show associated with

1903
01:31:10,253 --> 01:31:12,932
Speaker 3: wealth and status in society. But I just don't see it.

1904
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:14,932
Speaker 3: It just to me, it just causes woman pain.

1905
01:31:15,213 --> 01:31:17,932
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's not just women that are doing

1906
01:31:18,173 --> 01:31:23,692
Speaker 2: crazy fashion fashion victim things. Wearing heels. I mean, what

1907
01:31:23,732 --> 01:31:26,652
Speaker 2: about wearing your pants halfway down your ass?

1908
01:31:27,652 --> 01:31:29,852
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean that still happens.

1909
01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:32,492
Speaker 2: You know, that doesn't make you very capable of running

1910
01:31:32,492 --> 01:31:33,812
Speaker 2: away from lava either.

1911
01:31:33,973 --> 01:31:34,333
Speaker 3: No.

1912
01:31:34,333 --> 01:31:37,852
Speaker 2: No, And you've got to question piercings, tattoos, all these

1913
01:31:38,093 --> 01:31:40,933
Speaker 2: things that we do. We're odd creatures, aren't we.

1914
01:31:41,093 --> 01:31:43,652
Speaker 3: This one doesn't cause any pain. But I don't understand

1915
01:31:43,652 --> 01:31:47,492
Speaker 3: the male tie. Why do we think that that looks good?

1916
01:31:48,173 --> 01:31:48,213
Speaker 22: What?

1917
01:31:48,492 --> 01:31:50,692
Speaker 3: You know, Look, I get people think that you wear

1918
01:31:50,732 --> 01:31:52,772
Speaker 3: the suit and the tie and you got your nice

1919
01:31:52,772 --> 01:31:54,492
Speaker 3: belt on, and all of a sudden you look tidy

1920
01:31:54,492 --> 01:31:57,692
Speaker 3: and presentable. To me, it just looks strange. The old tie.

1921
01:31:57,732 --> 01:32:00,652
Speaker 3: I don't understand why we think that that is somehow

1922
01:32:00,692 --> 01:32:02,973
Speaker 3: more presentable when you've just got this piece of fabric

1923
01:32:03,173 --> 01:32:04,372
Speaker 3: going down your waistline.

1924
01:32:04,412 --> 01:32:07,052
Speaker 2: It just works. Man, People look better in a tie.

1925
01:32:07,732 --> 01:32:10,612
Speaker 2: I look as like a completely different person when I've

1926
01:32:10,612 --> 01:32:12,972
Speaker 2: got a tie on. So I'm just here. I'm dressed

1927
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:15,173
Speaker 2: casually because I'm on the radio. There's no cameras go

1928
01:32:15,572 --> 01:32:18,293
Speaker 2: from my life. But if I'm doing, you know, going

1929
01:32:18,333 --> 01:32:21,572
Speaker 2: to anything formal, if I'm seeing something, then I'll then

1930
01:32:21,572 --> 01:32:23,173
Speaker 2: I'll put a tie on, and it just you look

1931
01:32:23,213 --> 01:32:25,572
Speaker 2: in the mirror and you just go, I am I

1932
01:32:25,652 --> 01:32:29,852
Speaker 2: am presenting as someone that gives a crap about this event,

1933
01:32:31,173 --> 01:32:34,732
Speaker 2: and wearing a tie doesn't prevent me from running away

1934
01:32:34,732 --> 01:32:36,772
Speaker 2: from an earthquake or larva.

1935
01:32:36,973 --> 01:32:39,173
Speaker 3: No, it's not constricting to me. It's just weird burn

1936
01:32:39,213 --> 01:32:39,532
Speaker 3: the ties.

1937
01:32:39,532 --> 01:32:40,972
Speaker 2: But what do you I'm going to get a hernia

1938
01:32:41,013 --> 01:32:43,292
Speaker 2: like this woman did from your tight pants from a tie.

1939
01:32:43,492 --> 01:32:46,653
Speaker 2: God smacked at the height of Cape Middleton stilettos at Wimbledon,

1940
01:32:46,732 --> 01:32:51,772
Speaker 2: says Juliet. Very fat, dim and Levi's in the nineteen eighties.

1941
01:32:52,053 --> 01:32:53,973
Speaker 2: We had to lie on the floor to do them up,

1942
01:32:54,253 --> 01:32:57,732
Speaker 2: so uncomfortable, Juliet. Yeah, And because is there anyone out

1943
01:32:57,732 --> 01:32:59,892
Speaker 2: there that's still having to put their pants on in

1944
01:32:59,893 --> 01:33:03,212
Speaker 2: a hot bath because they're so tight, wasn't.

1945
01:33:03,013 --> 01:33:04,253
Speaker 3: There's a lot of spandex around?

1946
01:33:04,293 --> 01:33:06,133
Speaker 2: Am I just thinking about a movie? Was that in Greece?

1947
01:33:06,692 --> 01:33:09,213
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties called twenty four

1948
01:33:09,213 --> 01:33:10,492
Speaker 3: past three.

1949
01:33:13,732 --> 01:33:17,412
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1950
01:33:17,492 --> 01:33:19,292
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB.

1951
01:33:19,612 --> 01:33:21,892
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You we're talking about fashion. It is

1952
01:33:22,093 --> 01:33:25,213
Speaker 3: eddioc Suki Waterhouse, well known singer and extra. She wore

1953
01:33:25,253 --> 01:33:28,173
Speaker 3: pants so tied it gabra hernia and she was off

1954
01:33:28,532 --> 01:33:30,572
Speaker 3: social media for a long time until she fronted up

1955
01:33:30,612 --> 01:33:32,772
Speaker 3: to that fact because it was so embarrassing. But keen

1956
01:33:32,853 --> 01:33:36,492
Speaker 3: to hear from you about the fashion crimes that you've

1957
01:33:36,492 --> 01:33:38,852
Speaker 3: committed in the past. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1958
01:33:39,213 --> 01:33:41,452
Speaker 2: This piston Tammy says a few years ago, my friend

1959
01:33:41,532 --> 01:33:44,372
Speaker 2: studying nursing said there was research going into high hills

1960
01:33:44,772 --> 01:33:48,852
Speaker 2: pivoting the pelvis resulting in low pregnancies rates. Not sure

1961
01:33:48,853 --> 01:33:50,492
Speaker 2: what the results of that study was.

1962
01:33:51,333 --> 01:33:56,812
Speaker 3: And girl says, a tie points to the male genitalia.

1963
01:33:56,893 --> 01:34:01,732
Speaker 3: Apparently it's like an arrow. Yeah, La, thanks to that.

1964
01:34:02,173 --> 01:34:04,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I'm walking around, I'm always saying to woman,

1965
01:34:04,173 --> 01:34:07,452
Speaker 2: eyes up here. My eyes are up here because they're

1966
01:34:07,492 --> 01:34:10,972
Speaker 2: following my tire, they're following my tie down. Hey, what's

1967
01:34:11,053 --> 01:34:13,253
Speaker 2: up with older men fifty ish plus who wear their

1968
01:34:13,293 --> 01:34:16,013
Speaker 2: caps back to front? You look stupid? That's from gin.

1969
01:34:16,253 --> 01:34:19,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean the old cat backwards.

1970
01:34:19,452 --> 01:34:23,412
Speaker 3: If you're over the age of twenty five, then you

1971
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:25,012
Speaker 3: look like an idiot.

1972
01:34:25,133 --> 01:34:28,133
Speaker 2: I still have my emsy hammer pants and I still

1973
01:34:28,173 --> 01:34:31,892
Speaker 2: wear them, much to my daughter's horror, says Mars. Yeah,

1974
01:34:31,973 --> 01:34:35,572
Speaker 2: I mean the hammer pants. How long did they last?

1975
01:34:35,812 --> 01:34:39,612
Speaker 2: But they were also called poo catches? Wouldn't they pooh catches?

1976
01:34:40,532 --> 01:34:46,372
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, the women still wear poo catches pants.

1977
01:34:46,412 --> 01:34:47,612
Speaker 2: I know they don't like to call them that.

1978
01:34:47,812 --> 01:34:51,253
Speaker 3: It's a great name for them, poo catchers. Guys, wife fronts,

1979
01:34:51,293 --> 01:34:54,812
Speaker 3: when worn over your jeans, gives you superpowers. And women

1980
01:34:54,853 --> 01:34:59,812
Speaker 3: wear stilettos to show off their firm, smooth, delicious carves

1981
01:35:00,053 --> 01:35:03,412
Speaker 3: to pervs like you two and me? Chairs Warsele?

1982
01:35:03,853 --> 01:35:07,173
Speaker 2: Is that why women that wear high heels?

1983
01:35:07,173 --> 01:35:07,372
Speaker 6: Can you?

1984
01:35:07,492 --> 01:35:09,213
Speaker 2: Can you tell us so much? Hundred eighty and eighty?

1985
01:35:09,412 --> 01:35:10,013
Speaker 5: You do?

1986
01:35:10,173 --> 01:35:11,452
Speaker 2: What? What would he say?

1987
01:35:11,492 --> 01:35:11,572
Speaker 15: So?

1988
01:35:11,692 --> 01:35:14,812
Speaker 3: He says, women wear stilettos to show off their firm, smooth,

1989
01:35:14,933 --> 01:35:16,133
Speaker 3: delicious calves.

1990
01:35:16,772 --> 01:35:17,412
Speaker 2: Right do they?

1991
01:35:17,772 --> 01:35:18,852
Speaker 3: Apparently right?

1992
01:35:18,933 --> 01:35:21,372
Speaker 2: They don't just wear them because they think they make

1993
01:35:21,412 --> 01:35:23,732
Speaker 2: themselves feel special and good and comfortable.

1994
01:35:23,853 --> 01:35:26,412
Speaker 3: I just thought it was a hype thing, this text

1995
01:35:26,412 --> 01:35:27,093
Speaker 3: that says.

1996
01:35:27,933 --> 01:35:30,133
Speaker 2: I don't even know why you men would talk about this.

1997
01:35:30,253 --> 01:35:34,133
Speaker 2: If it feels comfortable, comfortable, then we're what you want. Yeah,

1998
01:35:34,133 --> 01:35:36,293
Speaker 2: But that's the point. We're saying the exact opposite. If

1999
01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:39,532
Speaker 2: it would make sense that people would just wear stuff

2000
01:35:39,532 --> 01:35:42,852
Speaker 2: that was comfortable and practical. But I'm saying that wearing

2001
01:35:43,333 --> 01:35:45,852
Speaker 2: pants so tight you get a hernia as an own goal,

2002
01:35:46,492 --> 01:35:52,652
Speaker 2: and also wearing high heels is unnecessary because as I

2003
01:35:52,692 --> 01:35:54,732
Speaker 2: mean Sue ring up before when she said she finds

2004
01:35:54,973 --> 01:35:58,133
Speaker 2: wearing seven and entire hills very comfortable. Yeah, I think

2005
01:35:58,133 --> 01:35:59,572
Speaker 2: that would be a rare person, wouldn't it.

2006
01:35:59,652 --> 01:35:59,852
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2007
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:02,412
Speaker 2: I think they. I mean tottering around on those things.

2008
01:36:03,133 --> 01:36:04,973
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you run away an emergency? What

2009
01:36:04,973 --> 01:36:05,692
Speaker 2: if there's a fire?

2010
01:36:05,893 --> 01:36:09,253
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or lava? As you say, dare how are you mate?

2011
01:36:09,732 --> 01:36:10,133
Speaker 11: Good man?

2012
01:36:10,213 --> 01:36:10,652
Speaker 28: Yourself?

2013
01:36:10,812 --> 01:36:13,253
Speaker 3: Good? Good? So you want to talk about fashion crimes

2014
01:36:13,253 --> 01:36:14,372
Speaker 3: that west Auckland has commit.

2015
01:36:15,372 --> 01:36:19,293
Speaker 20: Oh, there's the old where the pajamas to the supermarke.

2016
01:36:20,213 --> 01:36:22,173
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, that's a biggner.

2017
01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 20: That is a bigg It's always always a good one,

2018
01:36:25,333 --> 01:36:28,372
Speaker 20: you know, when they're fully activated to go to the supermarket.

2019
01:36:28,652 --> 01:36:31,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that a lot actually where I

2020
01:36:31,532 --> 01:36:34,452
Speaker 3: am old name and shame actually Mount Wellington Countdown. It's

2021
01:36:34,492 --> 01:36:37,452
Speaker 3: notorious for people coming in there and there in their pjs,

2022
01:36:37,452 --> 01:36:38,492
Speaker 3: and even we shop around.

2023
01:36:38,652 --> 01:36:40,973
Speaker 2: That's interesting because you've bothered to have pjs, because if

2024
01:36:40,973 --> 01:36:43,133
Speaker 2: you're super lazy, you wouldn't even have pjs. You just

2025
01:36:43,213 --> 01:36:44,092
Speaker 2: sleep in your undies.

2026
01:36:44,213 --> 01:36:45,732
Speaker 20: Yeah, you've got going your boxes.

2027
01:36:45,973 --> 01:36:48,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going your boxes, but you've got pj's, so

2028
01:36:48,372 --> 01:36:51,253
Speaker 2: you already get it's quite nerdy to wear pjs. Yeah,

2029
01:36:51,293 --> 01:36:52,893
Speaker 2: and then you and then you're making the decision to

2030
01:36:52,933 --> 01:36:55,972
Speaker 2: wear them down to the supermarket. It's a weird.

2031
01:36:55,732 --> 01:36:58,812
Speaker 20: Statement sometimes even just down to the deery, you know.

2032
01:36:59,133 --> 01:37:00,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's better than just walking down

2033
01:37:00,973 --> 01:37:02,372
Speaker 2: in your boxes, I guess.

2034
01:37:02,213 --> 01:37:03,852
Speaker 3: Yeah that might be a step too far. But the

2035
01:37:03,853 --> 01:37:05,692
Speaker 3: slippers and then the dressing gown as well, I don't

2036
01:37:05,772 --> 01:37:07,852
Speaker 3: understand it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2037
01:37:07,893 --> 01:37:10,333
Speaker 3: the number. Plenty of teams coming through as well. But

2038
01:37:10,333 --> 01:37:13,253
Speaker 3: we've got railings standing by for the headlines are but

2039
01:37:13,333 --> 01:37:16,172
Speaker 3: really keen to hear from you. It is bang on hup, Pass.

2040
01:37:15,973 --> 01:37:21,052
Speaker 4: Three youth talks at the headlines.

2041
01:37:20,612 --> 01:37:23,892
Speaker 9: With blue bubble taxes, it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2042
01:37:24,412 --> 01:37:29,612
Speaker 9: Plans to restructure treasury, cutting fourteen manager positions, increasing team

2043
01:37:29,732 --> 01:37:33,973
Speaker 9: leader roles, and slashing principal advisors from fifty eight to

2044
01:37:34,093 --> 01:37:38,213
Speaker 9: thirty seven. A new anti corruption task force has been

2045
01:37:38,253 --> 01:37:41,692
Speaker 9: formed to protect the public sector. It's being led by

2046
01:37:41,732 --> 01:37:45,692
Speaker 9: the Serious Fraud Office and supported by police. The US

2047
01:37:45,772 --> 01:37:49,853
Speaker 9: presidents asked the White House Attorney General to release documents

2048
01:37:49,973 --> 01:37:54,172
Speaker 9: from the Jeffrey Epstein case. Scrutiny of Donald Trump's connection

2049
01:37:54,253 --> 01:37:57,692
Speaker 9: with the now deceased convicted sex offender has escalated in

2050
01:37:57,732 --> 01:38:01,732
Speaker 9: recent weeks. The Ministry of Health released its annual report

2051
01:38:01,772 --> 01:38:05,412
Speaker 9: on euthanasia, showing a small left in deaths at four

2052
01:38:05,492 --> 01:38:08,692
Speaker 9: hundred and seventy two for the year to April. More

2053
01:38:08,692 --> 01:38:11,333
Speaker 9: than one thousand applications were active in the twelve months

2054
01:38:11,372 --> 01:38:16,492
Speaker 9: to April, a twenty percent annual rise. Fifties and sixties

2055
01:38:16,532 --> 01:38:20,492
Speaker 9: singing star Connie Francis fame for hats like Stupid Cupid

2056
01:38:20,532 --> 01:38:24,213
Speaker 9: and pretty Little Baby has died. She was eighty seven.

2057
01:38:25,213 --> 01:38:29,213
Speaker 9: Government's new AI agency to be based in Auckland. Read

2058
01:38:29,213 --> 01:38:32,773
Speaker 9: this and more from tech Insider at Anzen Herald Premium.

2059
01:38:32,812 --> 01:38:34,773
Speaker 9: Back to matt Ethan Tyner Adams.

2060
01:38:34,412 --> 01:38:36,813
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about fashion idiosc.

2061
01:38:36,973 --> 01:38:39,773
Speaker 3: This is after Suki Waterhouse, well known singer and actress.

2062
01:38:39,812 --> 01:38:42,293
Speaker 3: She was off twitter x for a long time. She

2063
01:38:42,372 --> 01:38:45,013
Speaker 3: came back and she said, and I quote, here was

2064
01:38:45,093 --> 01:38:47,612
Speaker 3: the tweet. Suki, you never tweet anymore. Have you considered

2065
01:38:47,652 --> 01:38:49,692
Speaker 3: I warp pants so tight six months ago it caused

2066
01:38:49,732 --> 01:38:51,852
Speaker 3: to hernia and I've been too scared to tell you.

2067
01:38:51,812 --> 01:38:57,572
Speaker 2: Mapay own own goal. Have you ever been involved in

2068
01:38:57,772 --> 01:39:00,692
Speaker 2: a fashion victim hood that's actually injured yourself? We'd love

2069
01:39:00,732 --> 01:39:02,652
Speaker 2: to hear from you. Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2070
01:39:02,692 --> 01:39:05,612
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about high heels and ties.

2071
01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:09,173
Speaker 2: The stick says, well off a tie points to a genitalia.

2072
01:39:09,213 --> 01:39:10,932
Speaker 2: That's what you were saying that.

2073
01:39:10,973 --> 01:39:12,532
Speaker 3: One of the teachers said that.

2074
01:39:12,452 --> 01:39:14,492
Speaker 2: The idea is that the reason why you were a

2075
01:39:14,532 --> 01:39:16,932
Speaker 2: tie is that it's a little pointed down to your.

2076
01:39:16,853 --> 01:39:20,213
Speaker 3: Downstairs accentuates the.

2077
01:39:19,372 --> 01:39:21,973
Speaker 2: Then why does say Donald Trump? What does it say

2078
01:39:22,013 --> 01:39:24,133
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump? He wears his tie so long, way

2079
01:39:24,173 --> 01:39:27,333
Speaker 2: past his supposed location of his genitalia. Maybe he his

2080
01:39:27,532 --> 01:39:34,732
Speaker 2: downstairs is like those breasts in the letter, justredulous, just wondering.

2081
01:39:35,812 --> 01:39:37,213
Speaker 3: Well, that's a fair point. I'm going to have to

2082
01:39:37,293 --> 01:39:39,173
Speaker 3: go see how long Donald Trump's tie is now.

2083
01:39:39,253 --> 01:39:42,372
Speaker 2: He does wear a very long tieh I mean that's

2084
01:39:42,372 --> 01:39:44,812
Speaker 2: one of the hardest things when you're going out and

2085
01:39:44,853 --> 01:39:47,013
Speaker 2: you have to wear a tires getting the length exactly right.

2086
01:39:47,173 --> 01:39:49,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, the amounts of times I've got to retie that

2087
01:39:49,293 --> 01:39:49,932
Speaker 3: bloody tie.

2088
01:39:50,013 --> 01:39:52,452
Speaker 2: So I make mine so so the tip is just

2089
01:39:52,492 --> 01:39:53,813
Speaker 2: about touching my belt.

2090
01:39:53,612 --> 01:39:55,572
Speaker 3: Right, I think that's key, that's what you say.

2091
01:39:55,893 --> 01:39:58,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, man, just above, But I don't feel like

2092
01:39:58,933 --> 01:40:01,252
Speaker 2: I'm using it as an arrow.

2093
01:40:03,812 --> 01:40:05,812
Speaker 3: Subconscious a subconscious Well.

2094
01:40:05,732 --> 01:40:07,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, well people are saying that a lot of people

2095
01:40:07,492 --> 01:40:11,052
Speaker 2: are tixting in the subc just nature of wearing heels.

2096
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:13,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this ticks of sears. Guys. The way heels

2097
01:40:13,893 --> 01:40:16,612
Speaker 3: make you stand is supposed to emphasize the chest and

2098
01:40:16,652 --> 01:40:21,052
Speaker 3: butt area. It also falls forces better posture, though let's

2099
01:40:21,093 --> 01:40:23,133
Speaker 3: be honest, it's not actually better in terms of keeping

2100
01:40:23,133 --> 01:40:26,012
Speaker 3: your body healthy. Most men don't realize that's what's different.

2101
01:40:26,372 --> 01:40:29,013
Speaker 3: They just know that she looks better on heels.

2102
01:40:29,532 --> 01:40:32,812
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know, like say my partner when

2103
01:40:32,853 --> 01:40:35,293
Speaker 2: she puts heels on, I don't think you look better.

2104
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:38,213
Speaker 3: Doesn't emphasize the chest and the butt area.

2105
01:40:38,612 --> 01:40:39,892
Speaker 2: Not that I don't know.

2106
01:40:40,933 --> 01:40:43,532
Speaker 3: Subconsciously maybe, but I don't.

2107
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:45,932
Speaker 2: She's standing there and then she puts on heels and go, boy,

2108
01:40:45,973 --> 01:40:48,293
Speaker 2: you look so much better with you you've got heels on.

2109
01:40:48,333 --> 01:40:51,452
Speaker 2: I just think, well, what a volcano erupts and we

2110
01:40:51,532 --> 01:40:55,372
Speaker 2: have to run away from the lava. Hello Mike, your thoughts?

2111
01:40:55,452 --> 01:40:56,612
Speaker 19: Oh hello, how are you?

2112
01:40:56,893 --> 01:40:57,692
Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you?

2113
01:40:59,293 --> 01:41:03,492
Speaker 19: All right now, fashion crimes, think about pack and save

2114
01:41:04,133 --> 01:41:05,293
Speaker 19: road to ruer.

2115
01:41:05,572 --> 01:41:07,132
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, tell us more.

2116
01:41:09,213 --> 01:41:15,293
Speaker 19: A bit as a serial town. People going in there

2117
01:41:15,452 --> 01:41:17,732
Speaker 19: and near onesies in their red beans.

2118
01:41:19,732 --> 01:41:23,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bold choice. Onesie and gummies as well.

2119
01:41:26,053 --> 01:41:27,412
Speaker 20: It's like I.

2120
01:41:28,893 --> 01:41:31,732
Speaker 22: Saw that w t S.

2121
01:41:33,612 --> 01:41:35,933
Speaker 2: I mean, the onesie around the house is a is

2122
01:41:35,973 --> 01:41:37,692
Speaker 2: a great thing in winter, but.

2123
01:41:39,732 --> 01:41:40,293
Speaker 3: Keep it at home.

2124
01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:42,253
Speaker 2: I don't know about a onesie the supermarket.

2125
01:41:43,812 --> 01:41:47,253
Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't know if if you're not wearing red

2126
01:41:47,293 --> 01:41:51,932
Speaker 19: beans and in the supermarket you feel a little bitty

2127
01:41:51,973 --> 01:41:52,612
Speaker 19: out of place.

2128
01:41:54,692 --> 01:41:56,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in your gummies out. I mean, what what

2129
01:41:56,492 --> 01:41:59,132
Speaker 2: what's worse the red bands or or the white gummies?

2130
01:42:00,853 --> 01:42:02,772
Speaker 19: Ah, the white gummies.

2131
01:42:02,893 --> 01:42:05,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the white gummies is te You know,

2132
01:42:05,532 --> 01:42:07,532
Speaker 3: there's there's a telltale sign that you know, we know,

2133
01:42:07,612 --> 01:42:08,213
Speaker 3: we know they.

2134
01:42:08,133 --> 01:42:09,973
Speaker 19: Come clearingly obviously.

2135
01:42:10,372 --> 01:42:13,372
Speaker 3: Yeah. It reminds me of it was that old site

2136
01:42:13,372 --> 01:42:16,053
Speaker 3: people of Walmart. I think it's still going, but they

2137
01:42:16,053 --> 01:42:19,292
Speaker 3: would post pictures of people shopping and Walmart in America

2138
01:42:20,093 --> 01:42:23,412
Speaker 3: wherein all sorts of outrageous things. And I think the

2139
01:42:23,452 --> 01:42:26,973
Speaker 3: supermarket is kind of that place in society where for

2140
01:42:27,053 --> 01:42:29,452
Speaker 3: some people anything goes because it's not you don't have

2141
01:42:29,492 --> 01:42:31,333
Speaker 3: to be fancy to be in a supermarket, but you've

2142
01:42:31,372 --> 01:42:33,173
Speaker 3: got to be a level of presentability.

2143
01:42:33,372 --> 01:42:35,213
Speaker 2: Well who are you dressing up for at the supermarket?

2144
01:42:35,253 --> 01:42:37,612
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I might go, well that that's

2145
01:42:37,612 --> 01:42:40,093
Speaker 2: pretty slack. You've turned up in your pj's to the supermarket,

2146
01:42:40,133 --> 01:42:42,452
Speaker 2: But I don't really care. Yeah, I mean, it's not

2147
01:42:42,532 --> 01:42:44,492
Speaker 2: a it's not like you're trying to get a loan

2148
01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:46,612
Speaker 2: off me or something. Yeah, you know, it's not like

2149
01:42:46,652 --> 01:42:51,173
Speaker 2: I'm paying you money. It's not like it's a job application.

2150
01:42:51,253 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 2: You're just heading down to get I don't know, some

2151
01:42:54,333 --> 01:42:55,612
Speaker 2: milk and some eggs or something.

2152
01:42:55,732 --> 01:42:57,173
Speaker 3: I'll be okay with the dairy and I'll tell you

2153
01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:58,612
Speaker 3: why because you can nip in and out in the

2154
01:42:58,692 --> 01:43:00,892
Speaker 3: dairy and nobody sees you. But in the supermarket you've

2155
01:43:00,893 --> 01:43:02,933
Speaker 3: got to walk a lot further. You've got to go

2156
01:43:03,013 --> 01:43:05,213
Speaker 3: up and down the aisles. There's more risk of someone

2157
01:43:05,253 --> 01:43:07,492
Speaker 3: you might know seeing you. And you're dressing gown and

2158
01:43:07,492 --> 01:43:10,572
Speaker 3: your pj's and your wee slippers, and you think, oh Jesus,

2159
01:43:10,612 --> 01:43:12,532
Speaker 3: I knew Tyler was was an idiot, but look at that.

2160
01:43:12,692 --> 01:43:16,852
Speaker 2: But what about is it more? Is it worse and

2161
01:43:16,933 --> 01:43:19,533
Speaker 2: more crazy? If you're just going down to the supermarket

2162
01:43:19,612 --> 01:43:22,133
Speaker 2: and you go for a full look So you're just

2163
01:43:22,372 --> 01:43:23,852
Speaker 2: been down the supermarket back and you go, I need

2164
01:43:23,893 --> 01:43:26,412
Speaker 2: to be fully dressed up to the nines, so you

2165
01:43:26,612 --> 01:43:29,653
Speaker 2: full makeup and heels to go to the supermarket.

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01:43:29,772 --> 01:43:32,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy. That's far crazier than the old pj's.

2167
01:43:32,732 --> 01:43:34,372
Speaker 3: But what do you say I want one hundred and

2168
01:43:34,372 --> 01:43:35,212
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

2169
01:43:35,093 --> 01:43:37,572
Speaker 2: This Texas Craig says Trump wears a tie longer to

2170
01:43:37,612 --> 01:43:40,732
Speaker 2: make him self look slimmer, I read it in an

2171
01:43:40,772 --> 01:43:43,452
Speaker 2: article recently. Does does that work? Does wearing a longer

2172
01:43:43,452 --> 01:43:45,053
Speaker 2: time make you slimmer? I guess a lot of what

2173
01:43:45,173 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 2: people wear fashion wise is to make themself look slimmer.

2174
01:43:49,452 --> 01:43:51,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the old spandex.

2175
01:43:51,973 --> 01:43:54,093
Speaker 2: But does wearing incredibly tight pants that give you a

2176
01:43:54,093 --> 01:43:57,212
Speaker 2: hernia make you look thinner? I think that's a misnomer

2177
01:43:57,293 --> 01:43:59,052
Speaker 2: that wearing tight clothes makes you look thinner.

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01:43:59,133 --> 01:43:59,412
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:43:59,452 --> 01:44:02,692
Speaker 2: I think sometimes baggy clothes because because you might be

2180
01:44:02,692 --> 01:44:03,692
Speaker 2: thinner under the clothes.

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01:44:03,772 --> 01:44:05,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, comfort always. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

2182
01:44:06,013 --> 01:44:07,972
Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is twenty one to four.

2183
01:44:09,053 --> 01:44:12,612
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

2184
01:44:12,612 --> 01:44:15,973
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons

2185
01:44:16,133 --> 01:44:16,973
Speaker 1: News Talks.

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01:44:16,772 --> 01:44:19,092
Speaker 3: Envy, very good afternoon to you were talking about fashion

2187
01:44:19,133 --> 01:44:22,412
Speaker 3: idiocy and fashion disasters, good techs. Here about high heels,

2188
01:44:22,612 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 3: says O Kiday. Guys, I am shorten kurvy. High heels

2189
01:44:25,412 --> 01:44:28,412
Speaker 3: make me look taller and more proportional. I also wear

2190
01:44:28,452 --> 01:44:30,972
Speaker 3: skirts and dresses every day, and they usually look better

2191
01:44:30,973 --> 01:44:33,372
Speaker 3: with heels. I have great legs and they look their

2192
01:44:33,372 --> 01:44:35,372
Speaker 3: best in heels. I feel confident walking in them and

2193
01:44:35,412 --> 01:44:38,133
Speaker 3: definitely have more of a presence. Also, high heels are

2194
01:44:38,173 --> 01:44:40,372
Speaker 3: just gorgeous on their own. I have dozens of beers

2195
01:44:40,492 --> 01:44:42,412
Speaker 3: and love picking the ones to go with my outfit

2196
01:44:42,452 --> 01:44:45,812
Speaker 3: each day. Mary Jane's tea straps. Do you all say

2197
01:44:45,853 --> 01:44:48,173
Speaker 3: pumps Oxford heels? Oh my gosh, they're also good.

2198
01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:50,892
Speaker 2: Oh wow. I like a Spanish heel on a pair

2199
01:44:50,893 --> 01:44:51,293
Speaker 2: of boots.

2200
01:44:51,372 --> 01:44:52,052
Speaker 3: Spanish heel.

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01:44:52,372 --> 01:44:54,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I went to the corner stores in the

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01:44:54,652 --> 01:44:56,812
Speaker 2: UK with no shoes on. People thought I was homeless.

2203
01:44:57,133 --> 01:44:57,372
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2204
01:44:57,933 --> 01:45:01,532
Speaker 2: The wearing of beer feet is a lot more wearing

2205
01:45:01,532 --> 01:45:03,333
Speaker 2: of beer feet in New Zealand than there is definitely

2206
01:45:03,333 --> 01:45:07,052
Speaker 2: in the UK, but generally in the world. But also

2207
01:45:07,333 --> 01:45:10,372
Speaker 2: when you're over seas and you see a New Zealander,

2208
01:45:10,692 --> 01:45:12,893
Speaker 2: there's something about the casual way in New Zealand's a

2209
01:45:12,973 --> 01:45:15,572
Speaker 2: dress and that you can spot them a mile off,

2210
01:45:16,013 --> 01:45:17,932
Speaker 2: Like if you're on the tube and you see someone

2211
01:45:17,933 --> 01:45:19,372
Speaker 2: at the other end, you go that in New Zealander. I

2212
01:45:19,412 --> 01:45:21,973
Speaker 2: was in Japan once and I was walking down a

2213
01:45:21,973 --> 01:45:23,652
Speaker 2: street and I saw these guys that are about one

2214
01:45:23,732 --> 01:45:25,492
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two hundred meters away, and I thought

2215
01:45:25,532 --> 01:45:27,892
Speaker 2: they're Kiwis, And then they were walking towards when they

2216
01:45:27,893 --> 01:45:30,612
Speaker 2: came up and said, Lo, there was something about the

2217
01:45:30,692 --> 01:45:35,812
Speaker 2: incredibly casual way, sloppy way we dress, the flip flops,

2218
01:45:36,293 --> 01:45:43,013
Speaker 2: the feet, the shorts, the stubbish shorts, the sort of

2219
01:45:43,853 --> 01:45:45,092
Speaker 2: rubbish t shirts were.

2220
01:45:45,572 --> 01:45:47,572
Speaker 3: Isn't that nice though around the world. You're quite right,

2221
01:45:47,652 --> 01:45:49,852
Speaker 3: Kiwi's a knowing fin not really making too much of

2222
01:45:49,853 --> 01:45:51,732
Speaker 3: an effort in the fashion department, Fiona.

2223
01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:54,133
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on fashion.

2224
01:45:55,893 --> 01:45:58,453
Speaker 16: Well, I was in my twenties in the eighties.

2225
01:45:59,412 --> 01:46:01,732
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, right, you would have been right in the

2226
01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:02,213
Speaker 2: thick of it.

2227
01:46:03,492 --> 01:46:11,172
Speaker 16: Multiple cans of hair spray, shoulder pads, yes, I stell grimace,

2228
01:46:11,572 --> 01:46:13,852
Speaker 16: And every once in a while I'll see something in

2229
01:46:13,933 --> 01:46:16,612
Speaker 16: a restaurant and go, I can't believe I went out

2230
01:46:16,652 --> 01:46:21,452
Speaker 16: with something off my body. And there was a whole

2231
01:46:21,492 --> 01:46:25,253
Speaker 16: thing about looking like you're in the military. The shoulder

2232
01:46:25,293 --> 01:46:28,932
Speaker 16: pads had cackles on them. You could get really big ones.

2233
01:46:29,372 --> 01:46:32,133
Speaker 16: So the bigger the heir than bigger the shoulder pads.

2234
01:46:32,572 --> 01:46:34,093
Speaker 16: I just don't get it any more of it.

2235
01:46:34,532 --> 01:46:37,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, what was the thinking at the time, Fiona.

2236
01:46:37,053 --> 01:46:40,772
Speaker 3: Was it to present sort of a powerful presence with

2237
01:46:40,853 --> 01:46:43,852
Speaker 3: the shoulder pads that you'd make yourself, you know, I

2238
01:46:43,853 --> 01:46:46,732
Speaker 3: don't know, look a bit taller, a little bit more powerful.

2239
01:46:46,772 --> 01:46:47,652
Speaker 3: Was that the thinking at the.

2240
01:46:47,572 --> 01:46:50,852
Speaker 16: Time, Actually, I think you might be onto something there.

2241
01:46:50,893 --> 01:46:53,572
Speaker 16: A little bit about the early eighties, women started to

2242
01:46:54,133 --> 01:46:59,772
Speaker 16: rise up into executive positions, right, so your appearance at work,

2243
01:46:59,812 --> 01:47:03,333
Speaker 16: because I was in a non executive but I was

2244
01:47:03,372 --> 01:47:06,532
Speaker 16: in a very man controlled work environment at the time,

2245
01:47:07,372 --> 01:47:10,532
Speaker 16: and the woman put these shoulder pads on so that

2246
01:47:10,612 --> 01:47:13,452
Speaker 16: your shoulders were broader, and you kind of felt a

2247
01:47:13,452 --> 01:47:19,333
Speaker 16: bit more powerful, like you Phittizen, and you went, wow, Gurley,

2248
01:47:19,532 --> 01:47:19,812
Speaker 16: you know.

2249
01:47:19,853 --> 01:47:21,132
Speaker 11: There's the opposite to Gurley.

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01:47:21,333 --> 01:47:22,132
Speaker 2: That's so interesting.

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01:47:22,853 --> 01:47:23,852
Speaker 16: Sixty I'll say.

2252
01:47:23,692 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 2: That, but I guess I guess it had the ad

2253
01:47:27,293 --> 01:47:30,892
Speaker 2: advantage of would make your your waist quite look quite

2254
01:47:31,213 --> 01:47:32,173
Speaker 2: slum potentially.

2255
01:47:32,253 --> 01:47:32,852
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's that.

2256
01:47:32,973 --> 01:47:35,212
Speaker 16: The rest of you, the rest of you did look slimmer.

2257
01:47:35,213 --> 01:47:36,732
Speaker 16: And if I could put my two cents in on

2258
01:47:36,732 --> 01:47:40,572
Speaker 16: the high heels, a little bit of that from me,

2259
01:47:40,772 --> 01:47:44,053
Speaker 16: was it major? It makes your legs look longer and slender.

2260
01:47:43,772 --> 01:47:47,852
Speaker 11: Rises you So I don't really anymore.

2261
01:47:48,013 --> 01:47:50,333
Speaker 16: Obviously, if I was twenty twenty something in the eighties,

2262
01:47:50,333 --> 01:47:52,452
Speaker 16: you can kind of do some maps there figure out

2263
01:47:52,492 --> 01:47:54,092
Speaker 16: I am and at high heels aren't about.

2264
01:47:53,853 --> 01:47:54,773
Speaker 11: A decade.

2265
01:47:55,973 --> 01:47:59,333
Speaker 16: Or more to pump fear. But at the time it

2266
01:47:59,412 --> 01:48:01,653
Speaker 16: was about the long legs and looking.

2267
01:48:01,412 --> 01:48:02,253
Speaker 22: Like the models.

2268
01:48:02,253 --> 01:48:05,812
Speaker 16: The supermodels all had this ridiculously legs for miles and

2269
01:48:06,213 --> 01:48:08,892
Speaker 16: putting heels on the ends of your own leagues made

2270
01:48:08,933 --> 01:48:14,692
Speaker 16: you feel like you had statue that statue. Yeah, and

2271
01:48:14,812 --> 01:48:17,532
Speaker 16: apparently my husband didn't mind.

2272
01:48:17,853 --> 01:48:22,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it worth it those so slightly longer legs,

2273
01:48:22,532 --> 01:48:26,053
Speaker 2: but you're having to tottle tottle around on on heels.

2274
01:48:26,532 --> 01:48:26,772
Speaker 18: No.

2275
01:48:27,532 --> 01:48:30,772
Speaker 16: I chucked them out pretty pretty quick after I took

2276
01:48:30,853 --> 01:48:33,532
Speaker 16: up nursing. As you can imagine, that wasn't the right

2277
01:48:33,572 --> 01:48:35,852
Speaker 16: spot where are we were working in hospital or fields on.

2278
01:48:36,013 --> 01:48:39,293
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a bit club cloppy. Did you at

2279
01:48:39,293 --> 01:48:43,812
Speaker 2: what point did you move on from from how deep

2280
01:48:43,812 --> 01:48:46,973
Speaker 2: into the eighties you reckon? You kept the shoulder pads going, Fiona.

2281
01:48:47,812 --> 01:48:53,972
Speaker 16: Oh, I want to say until about nineteen eighties, about

2282
01:48:54,013 --> 01:48:56,132
Speaker 16: eighty eight and I had as grunge period.

2283
01:48:57,213 --> 01:48:58,812
Speaker 3: You're up with the play though, that was about the

2284
01:48:58,853 --> 01:49:00,333
Speaker 3: time that it went out of ote.

2285
01:49:00,612 --> 01:49:02,892
Speaker 2: So and then grunge was that the opposite. It was

2286
01:49:02,973 --> 01:49:06,692
Speaker 2: about dressing down and basically dressing like Grandma and Grandpa,

2287
01:49:06,853 --> 01:49:08,053
Speaker 2: wasn't it the grunge?

2288
01:49:09,013 --> 01:49:11,972
Speaker 16: Yeah, plane flannel shirts. The boys will had flannel shirts

2289
01:49:12,013 --> 01:49:15,652
Speaker 16: on and and the thing was the ripped jeans and

2290
01:49:15,692 --> 01:49:18,972
Speaker 16: so ripped jeans were very de rigueur, bigger the holes

2291
01:49:19,053 --> 01:49:21,293
Speaker 16: than I, you know, but the more indin as.

2292
01:49:21,093 --> 01:49:23,812
Speaker 2: You got, and short longs what are they long shorts

2293
01:49:23,893 --> 01:49:27,293
Speaker 2: or short longs but really long shorts, yeah.

2294
01:49:26,973 --> 01:49:27,892
Speaker 16: Really long shorts.

2295
01:49:27,973 --> 01:49:28,173
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2296
01:49:28,532 --> 01:49:31,652
Speaker 16: And the ripped jeans, of course crossover if you and

2297
01:49:31,732 --> 01:49:33,812
Speaker 16: I didn't have anything to do with that particular crowd.

2298
01:49:33,853 --> 01:49:36,013
Speaker 16: I tried a few crowds I had. I had a

2299
01:49:36,053 --> 01:49:37,293
Speaker 16: country Western moment as.

2300
01:49:37,253 --> 01:49:37,732
Speaker 11: Well, but.

2301
01:49:39,333 --> 01:49:41,333
Speaker 16: I'm not wonder not try things.

2302
01:49:41,572 --> 01:49:43,292
Speaker 20: But also the big.

2303
01:49:43,093 --> 01:49:47,133
Speaker 16: Hair bands, the guys in the eighties that had more

2304
01:49:47,452 --> 01:49:49,532
Speaker 16: we're wearing more makeup and hair spray than I was.

2305
01:49:49,692 --> 01:49:52,732
Speaker 2: Did you ever go Did you ever go GoF Fiona?

2306
01:49:53,293 --> 01:49:53,532
Speaker 16: Yes?

2307
01:49:53,572 --> 01:49:53,852
Speaker 11: I did.

2308
01:49:55,372 --> 01:49:57,412
Speaker 16: I got into the got into the Cure. I had

2309
01:49:57,412 --> 01:49:59,572
Speaker 16: a bad break up and I got into the cure

2310
01:49:59,692 --> 01:50:03,612
Speaker 16: for and the Smiths and Morrissey. But the cure is

2311
01:50:03,652 --> 01:50:06,692
Speaker 16: specifically I was big stand and I used to go

2312
01:50:06,772 --> 01:50:09,213
Speaker 16: to a nightclub and sand Diego while I was living

2313
01:50:09,253 --> 01:50:14,013
Speaker 16: at the time called the Panic Room, and everybody you

2314
01:50:14,333 --> 01:50:17,853
Speaker 16: could only wear black. Everything was black. Everything was studded,

2315
01:50:18,372 --> 01:50:21,892
Speaker 16: ripped fish nets with holes, and they had the air

2316
01:50:21,893 --> 01:50:23,852
Speaker 16: conditioning turned all the way up to the place was

2317
01:50:23,893 --> 01:50:25,932
Speaker 16: freezing like a mortuary. It was really weird.

2318
01:50:26,732 --> 01:50:28,692
Speaker 2: You need that in San Diego because it get pretty hot,

2319
01:50:28,732 --> 01:50:30,892
Speaker 2: pretty hard to be a goth in that kind of climate,

2320
01:50:31,013 --> 01:50:33,252
Speaker 2: so you need to you need to lower the temperature

2321
01:50:33,333 --> 01:50:35,133
Speaker 2: so people could party.

2322
01:50:36,372 --> 01:50:38,892
Speaker 16: Yeah, I've tried on, I've tried on a few passion things.

2323
01:50:38,933 --> 01:50:45,532
Speaker 16: I've settled with basically comfortable. I have an army of jeans,

2324
01:50:45,572 --> 01:50:47,932
Speaker 16: and I have lots and lots of tops and jackets,

2325
01:50:48,213 --> 01:50:51,652
Speaker 16: and I wear boots and shoes, but they're all they're

2326
01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:54,173
Speaker 16: all pretty much flat or just a little bit of

2327
01:50:54,213 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 16: a of a bigger heel. But no, no pointy heels anymore, No,

2328
01:50:58,133 --> 01:50:58,612
Speaker 16: thank you?

2329
01:50:58,732 --> 01:51:01,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And you're ever considering a return to

2330
01:51:01,853 --> 01:51:03,612
Speaker 2: the goth days or you think you're done with your

2331
01:51:03,612 --> 01:51:06,053
Speaker 2: current lot, You're you're happy with your current look for

2332
01:51:06,492 --> 01:51:07,173
Speaker 2: the rest of time.

2333
01:51:08,013 --> 01:51:12,173
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, I still have my country in wester moments

2334
01:51:12,213 --> 01:51:15,172
Speaker 16: because I do like cowboy boots and I'm quite attached

2335
01:51:15,213 --> 01:51:18,492
Speaker 16: to those, and I love country music. I'm a musician,

2336
01:51:18,933 --> 01:51:21,412
Speaker 16: but I still wouldn't you go out in front of

2337
01:51:21,412 --> 01:51:24,812
Speaker 16: people wearing heels at my age, even if people like Gibbie,

2338
01:51:24,812 --> 01:51:26,892
Speaker 16: Harry and Cher are still doing an idea like a.

2339
01:51:28,293 --> 01:51:30,093
Speaker 3: You're great, thank you very much for giving us a

2340
01:51:30,133 --> 01:51:34,532
Speaker 3: buzz cheers. I think we've got time for Susie before

2341
01:51:34,532 --> 01:51:35,452
Speaker 3: we got to play some messages.

2342
01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:38,732
Speaker 18: Get I Susie, Hei, sus I'm Susie.

2343
01:51:38,893 --> 01:51:39,053
Speaker 9: Yes.

2344
01:51:40,253 --> 01:51:42,692
Speaker 18: I just wanted to tell you what you don't wear,

2345
01:51:42,853 --> 01:51:46,733
Speaker 18: you know, very embarrassing. My son was in a competition

2346
01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:50,292
Speaker 18: back in the nineteen seventy five. He was a magician

2347
01:51:50,893 --> 01:51:54,412
Speaker 18: and he was going edit for a competition and we

2348
01:51:54,412 --> 01:51:57,093
Speaker 18: were late, running late, so I didn't have time to

2349
01:51:57,133 --> 01:51:59,972
Speaker 18: get into my clothing, so I went in my ninety

2350
01:52:00,013 --> 01:52:03,253
Speaker 18: and racing gown and it was fine. I managed to

2351
01:52:04,853 --> 01:52:09,852
Speaker 18: drop him off at the wear the Titian was but

2352
01:52:09,933 --> 01:52:12,293
Speaker 18: coming home, I got a flat tie in my car

2353
01:52:13,572 --> 01:52:18,692
Speaker 18: coming off on the coming off the motor remp onto

2354
01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:22,452
Speaker 18: the motorway, and I just couldn't go anywhere. And I

2355
01:52:22,532 --> 01:52:24,372
Speaker 18: just sat there and thought what am I going to

2356
01:52:24,492 --> 01:52:27,612
Speaker 18: do at help us? Even in the morning, and got

2357
01:52:27,652 --> 01:52:30,692
Speaker 18: out of the car and this lovely gentleman saw me.

2358
01:52:31,093 --> 01:52:33,492
Speaker 18: I waved him down and I said, are you able

2359
01:52:33,492 --> 01:52:35,372
Speaker 18: to change a flat tire?

2360
01:52:35,452 --> 01:52:36,572
Speaker 17: And he just looked at.

2361
01:52:36,492 --> 01:52:41,253
Speaker 18: Me and anyway, so he helped me. So I was

2362
01:52:41,372 --> 01:52:43,333
Speaker 18: very lucky. I got bick on the road again to

2363
01:52:43,372 --> 01:52:47,053
Speaker 18: get home. But I will never ever go without my

2364
01:52:47,213 --> 01:52:47,932
Speaker 18: proper dress.

2365
01:52:49,452 --> 01:52:49,652
Speaker 27: Poor.

2366
01:52:50,893 --> 01:52:52,852
Speaker 3: That's the dangerou, isn't it, Susie. When you think it's

2367
01:52:52,893 --> 01:52:54,892
Speaker 3: going to be right, I'll just wip out in my

2368
01:52:54,973 --> 01:52:58,572
Speaker 3: pj's and then something goes on and or something goes wrong,

2369
01:52:58,612 --> 01:52:59,732
Speaker 3: and then you've got to step back out.

2370
01:52:59,772 --> 01:53:02,452
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'll never sleep in the newd because

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Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen. You never know

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Speaker 2: when you have to fight invaders into your house or

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Speaker 2: a fire or something. I think at all times to

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Speaker 2: be prepared for the worst circumstances, to.

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Speaker 3: Be fair, that would scare away anybody that tried to

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Speaker 3: break into your house.

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Speaker 2: That's truectually who wants to fight and nude me probably

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Speaker 2: know them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, eight hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to caour will goe to play some messages, but

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Speaker 3: full boards. If you can't get through, keep trying it

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Speaker 3: as nine to four, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used Doorgs

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Speaker 1: EDB on Newstalgs EDB.

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Speaker 3: It is six to four.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I'm still wearing eighties clothes. As you know,

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Speaker 2: everything has a ten year cycle. So for four and

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Speaker 2: a half years I'm out of date, four and a

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Speaker 2: half years, I'm a trendsetter and for one year I'm

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Speaker 2: in fashion.

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Speaker 3: That's great, this good text, guys. Instant ech I a female,

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Speaker 3: it's very common in Australia. But men and skinny jeans

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Speaker 3: and what's even worse, a man in skinny jeans wearing

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Speaker 3: invisible socks. Deadly combo. Yeah, that is ad.

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Speaker 2: There's a volcano and you're wearing high heels. You remove them,

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Speaker 2: you knob, Yeah, but then you're running in bare feet

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Speaker 2: and away from the lava.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not good for lava. Skin and lava is

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Speaker 3: not a good combo.

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Speaker 2: Prack to cool shoes at all times.

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Speaker 3: Exactly great discussion on that one. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you to all your great New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: for listening to the show this week. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for all your calls and texts. We've had a great

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Speaker 2: time chatting. In fact, we love our callers so much.

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Speaker 2: Which week we play a caller of the week. This

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Speaker 2: week it's Frank who rang up about my rants around

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Speaker 2: how good people have it today compared to our ancestors.

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Speaker 2: He didn't agree, Frank, have you got enough to eat?

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Speaker 28: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Have you got a roof over your head? Have you

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Speaker 2: got the bubonic plague? So you're doing better than sum

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Speaker 2: in history?

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Speaker 28: Well, it's just pathetic, mate. Look we were in the

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Speaker 28: slaves anyway. Look, the system is just pathetic.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying you agree with me on all the history,

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Speaker 2: and you're saying that there was amazingly struggle of our

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01:54:53,373 --> 01:54:55,932
Speaker 2: ancestors to get here, and that the system has taken

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01:54:55,973 --> 01:54:58,772
Speaker 2: away really what it is to be human, which which

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Speaker 2: was the struggle.

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Speaker 28: Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler. We're all Noble Peace Prize nominees,

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01:55:05,493 --> 01:55:08,293
Speaker 28: and that's what they ended up doing. We've got idiots.

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01:55:08,413 --> 01:55:12,093
Speaker 28: Our whole system is created to be stuffed up.

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Speaker 2: Whether you go, that's all it takes to be the

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01:55:14,173 --> 01:55:15,453
Speaker 2: call of the week. You just have to call me

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Speaker 2: an idiot. He was a fighter that It was a

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01:55:18,772 --> 01:55:22,693
Speaker 2: great call from Frank there the Men until afternoons podcast

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01:55:22,693 --> 01:55:24,173
Speaker 2: will be are and about now. So if you missed

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01:55:24,173 --> 01:55:26,293
Speaker 2: our chats on whether the voting age should be lowered

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01:55:26,333 --> 01:55:29,052
Speaker 2: to sixteen, then follow our podcast where you get your pods.

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01:55:29,133 --> 01:55:31,933
Speaker 2: Ryan Bridges up next. But right now, Tyler, tell me

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Speaker 2: why I'm playing the song?

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Speaker 3: Is this Wang Chun? Everybody have fun tonight? Of course,

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Speaker 3: Ray Chung?

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: He was certainly very quiet. Yeah, thinking everybody was having

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Speaker 3: fun down and Wellington good Joy's great song.

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Speaker 2: Tune?

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Speaker 3: What what happened to Wang Chun? Hell of a name

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Speaker 3: for bands anyway, Thanks for.

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Speaker 2: Listening everyone, see ya on Monday. Until then, give a

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01:56:00,933 --> 01:56:01,892
Speaker 2: taste to keep it from us.

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Speaker 29: A love you, Mattea and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: For more from News Talk set B listen live on

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