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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks dB.

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Speaker 2: The only place for the.

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Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 3: Gotting it up Tonon. Welcome into the Sunday edition of

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport on News Talks ed B. May twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Johnny Wilkinson. I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald.

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Speaker 3: Did anyone see this coming?

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Speaker 4: There's just too many cries on my sheet to go

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Speaker 4: through and name them all, but thirty one dollar a

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Speaker 4: halftime eighty five to seven at full.

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Speaker 3: Time Chiefs eighty five to seven over Mowana Pacifica. Did

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Speaker 3: anyone see this coming?

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Speaker 2: On the right?

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Speaker 5: Old Furrence and mcgabe posher, What.

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Speaker 6: Man we Club?

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Speaker 5: Seven tries for the greatest Saver do its great trip boards?

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Speaker 5: Hey gets New Zealand thirteenth of the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Seven tries for Porsche Woodman Workcliff. Did anyone see this coming?

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Speaker 2: No victory?

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Speaker 7: He trust party. Auckland FC's remarkable, record breaking first season

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Speaker 7: will not hand a grand.

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Speaker 3: Finale, Aukland FC falling two NILD and Melbourne victory last

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Speaker 3: night out of go media missing the A League Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: Going to cover off these things for you today and

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Speaker 3: take your reaction. Roger Randall out of the Chiefs, Paul

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Speaker 3: Eifel on the football, as well as the very blunt

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Speaker 3: post match thoughts of Auckland FC coach Steve carikout and

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Speaker 3: the postgame thoughts of Poorsche Woodman Wickcliffe, who is now

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Speaker 3: the all time leading Black Ferns try scorer. Meantime, my

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Speaker 3: best qualifying effort of the Formula One season for Liam

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Speaker 3: Lawson ahead of tomorrow morning's Monico Grand Prix. He reached

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Speaker 3: the third and final phase of qualifying eventually secured ninth

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Speaker 3: on the grid for the race tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Coming into the weekend, I think I would have been

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Speaker 8: happy with Q three, but the car's been pretty quick,

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Speaker 3: The race is at one o'clock tomorrow morning. I am

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Speaker 3: reliably informed this is the single most difficult track to

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Speaker 3: overtake on in motorsports, so if you're ninth on the grid,

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Speaker 3: surely your chances are finishing ninth are pretty good. This

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Speaker 3: year they have added rules again, I'm reliably informed that

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Speaker 3: you have to do a second pit stop and use

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Speaker 3: a third different tire compound as a means of trying

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Speaker 3: to make it more competitive. If you can't pass, they've

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Speaker 3: got to try and equalize things up or create a

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Speaker 3: bit of excitement somehow. So one o'clock tomorrow morning, Liam

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Speaker 3: Lawson from ninth on the grid at the Monaco Grand

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Speaker 3: Prix leading us off today, though former Warrior turned fashion

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Speaker 3: designer Louis Brown he's going to join us in studio

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Speaker 3: ahead of tonight's clash with the Raiders at Go Media Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Louis Brown has designed a special jersey which the team

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Speaker 3: will wear proudly tonight. We'll find out more about that

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Speaker 3: and your pre thoughts. Warriors fans. Can your team go

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Speaker 3: joint top of the table with a sixth straight win tonight, Well,

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Speaker 3: of course they can, But how confident are you that

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Speaker 3: they will?

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Speaker 9: Are?

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Speaker 3: The matters around today? The iconic Indianapolis five hundred tomorrow

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Speaker 3: morning might have brought journo Jack Benyon going to preview

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Speaker 3: that for US International Paralympic Committee President Andrew Parsons has

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Speaker 3: been in New Zealand since the middle of last week,

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Speaker 3: He's in for a chat coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith on

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Speaker 3: how best to coach a REP team bringing players together

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Speaker 3: from different teams like State of Origin or the British

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Speaker 3: and Irish Lions. James mcconey in studio for his regular

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Speaker 3: slot Today Live Sport. While we're on the air, the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals continue Game three of the Western Conference Finals,

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Thunder Minnesota Timberwolves in Minneapolis. Twelve thirty tip

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Speaker 3: off on this one. Oka. See are two nill ahead

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Speaker 3: a very very difficult lead to peg back in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: The Timberwolves probably have to win this one and then

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Speaker 3: I guess roll the dice for the rest of the series. Okay, see,

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Speaker 3: I think it's our favorites to win the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: So twelve thirty kicker tip off in that one. Will

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Speaker 3: keep eyes on it. Please join us if you would

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Speaker 3: like to our numbers. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the s morning

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Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Vine.

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Speaker 3: Big Game at at Mount Smart, Go Media Mount Smart.

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Speaker 3: This evening, six o'clock Warriors Raiders. The Warriors can go

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Speaker 3: you'll notice when the Warriors run out tonight is their

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Speaker 3: playing strip. They're going to wear these specially designed Deer

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Speaker 3: Warrior jersey. It's a tribute to the paths taken by players,

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Speaker 3: staff members and fans who find their way into the

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Speaker 3: Warrior's fano, acknowledging the fact that everybody's journey to the

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Speaker 3: jersey is different now. The jersey sold out in just

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Speaker 3: nine minutes at last week's launch and was designed by

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Speaker 3: former Warrior Number one five to one turned fashion entrepreneur Louis.

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Speaker 10: Brown and Mandering looks at the time line manure with

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Speaker 11: Body, his Hell played.

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Speaker 3: Back to Lost and Lockgos running back, and then gets.

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Speaker 12: The path to conson Johnson's still going dubs again. Go

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Speaker 12: to the store, he Warrious with the grand final Searl.

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Speaker 3: Johnson take a pound our Great Memories from twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: Louis Brown is in studio with us. Great to see

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Speaker 3: Eloie Congrants on the jersey made it looks absolutely superb.

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Speaker 3: How did you come up with a design?

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me, Jason, and and thank you for

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Speaker 13: the kind words.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it sort of goes back to when I was

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Speaker 14: an eight year old Jason received a received the letter

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Speaker 14: in the mail and from the from the Warriors called

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Speaker 14: Dear Warrior. This was a ninety four obviously before the

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Speaker 14: team had actually entered the competition. So you know, at

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Speaker 14: So to be able to get letter that day, maybe

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Speaker 14: Phil made me feel real connected to the club and

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Speaker 14: go on to play eighty four games. But to be

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Speaker 13: This this jersey, this special jursey called.

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Speaker 14: Dear Warrior, and and kind of you know, kind of

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Speaker 13: It's an amazing story.

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Speaker 14: So I really really thankful for the club and to

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Speaker 13: I can't wait for the boys to run out tonight.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant. So when you're designing a jersey, man, that seems

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Speaker 14: It was basically I met up with the club and

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Speaker 14: Then basically Tyler and the Warriors said to me, listen,

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Speaker 3: Jayson outstanding, Louis. As you're designing it, you know, and

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Speaker 13: This time, I had a small crew.

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Speaker 14: I've just me and my colleague from Earl's collection that's

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Speaker 13: Kind of the cherry on top.

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Speaker 14: And then you know they have the hopefully the boys

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Speaker 3: Without regular league, you played eighty four games for the

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Speaker 3: Of course, your time there, well, during your time there,

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Speaker 3: How special a try and a day was that for you?

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Speaker 14: We were basically beat. It was really going to be

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Speaker 3: I love it. And you mentioned before when you had

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Speaker 3: And just on the Warriors of twenty twenty five, eight wins,

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of things that are making me really happy. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: And I'm just.

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Speaker 13: So hopefully this year can be a year for sure.

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Speaker 3: And you played, I think with a young Luke Metcalf

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Speaker 3: Do you Warrior the jersey, Lowie. It's an absolute cracker, mate,

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on it. I can't wait to see the boys

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 14: Jay just quick shut to a Moment's a birthday today too,

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday Missus Brown. Good on you mate, Thanks for

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty? I feel confident?

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Speaker 3: I mean? And why wouldn't you feel confident when your

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Speaker 13: Tell me this?

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Speaker 3: How big is the absence of the Warriors too? Co

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 3: Take out the two men and the team who have

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Speaker 3: Roger Tuiy varsaschek Wade Egan, Adam Pompey over one hundred

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Speaker 13: Two.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders do know, though, a couple of things. One

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Speaker 3: They also will have played one more game, So against

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Speaker 17: Here you go, mate, A little bit nervous, but at

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Speaker 18: That precious sort of built up on them.

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Speaker 17: It's sort of not being watched and they seem to

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Speaker 3: Too right, Yep they are. I think you're right BJ

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Speaker 17: Well, I sialat those guys that you've missed the bility.

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Speaker 9: They aren't going to be playing for us that have

437
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Speaker 9: been so good.

438
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Speaker 17: And you know, you don't see the Warriors dudess go

439
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Speaker 17: around in the public that you wouldn't normally see anyway,

440
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Speaker 17: so they starts showing up. I started to get a

441
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Speaker 17: bit warrior, you know what I mean. They keep talking

442
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Speaker 17: about Super Rugby on the news in the Warriors and began.

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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, BJ, if they keep winning, it's going to

444
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Speaker 3: be inevitable, isn't it. If they keep on winn if

445
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Speaker 3: they beat the Raiders tonight, if they continue on their

446
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Speaker 3: winning way, they've got quite a tough little little stretch

447
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Speaker 3: coming up. As you probably know. The Raiders then of

448
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Speaker 3: course await the rabbit. O's away at the Sharks and

449
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Speaker 3: home to the Panthers, who I guess are not the

450
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Speaker 3: Panthers of old. Even so so, I reckon, if we

451
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Speaker 3: get to the next month and they're still going and

452
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Speaker 3: ato double figure wins on the trot, it might be inevitable,

453
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Speaker 3: mate deaf.

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Speaker 17: They really the sneaks from state of Ogin. They really

455
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Speaker 17: need to win more than they lose and sort of

456
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Speaker 17: get a bit of a pub on the rest of

457
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Speaker 17: the competition while the while the other teams, we've got

458
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Speaker 17: good players there, but you know, the Warriors.

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Speaker 18: We'll see, We'll.

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Speaker 3: Hope, we'll see, we'll hope enjoy the game.

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Speaker 10: VJ.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for calling in, mate, ye mate, go on, dude,

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Speaker 3: you have a good one to eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is our number, twelve twenty eight. If you

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Speaker 3: want to comment on the Warriors, we'll talk football before

466
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Speaker 3: one o'clock as well. Relive Unpacked last night's Last night's

467
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Speaker 3: agonizing loss by Auckland FC to Melbourne Victory actually organizing.

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Speaker 3: As I said that word, that's not the right word.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't an agonizing loss. It was a loss. It

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Speaker 3: was a deflating loss. Melbourne Victory were good last night.

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Speaker 3: They were they were very good. Anyway, before I start

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Speaker 3: giving you any more analysis about there, at least talk

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Speaker 3: about more Warriors for a while. I eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty back with your calls after.

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Speaker 1: This The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport

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Speaker 3: Eight to one. All right, Paul, I'm please you've called

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Speaker 3: always enjoy your pre and postmatch Warriors analysis. How are

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Speaker 3: you feeling?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, optimus optimist. I'm an optimist, but I'm nervous mate,

482
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Speaker 19: So yeah, I just want to say the Auckland FC,

483
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Speaker 19: you know, to get that far in your first year,

484
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Speaker 19: it's pretty amazing, mate, So you know, well done to

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Speaker 19: them and I think they can hold you the heads

486
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Speaker 19: up high and that field last night looks pretty amazing.

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Speaker 19: Do they cut the grass short for football? Or is

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Speaker 19: it because it looked really really really short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah they do. If there was no football

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Speaker 3: on it, they wouldn't cut it as short. If it

491
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Speaker 3: was just league on there, they'd have it a bit longer.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and I mean I had a bit of

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Speaker 3: a wonder on the pitch after the game actually as

494
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Speaker 3: they were Yeah, they were spraying the lines away, taking

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Speaker 3: the football post down, putting the right leg ones up,

496
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Speaker 3: just to check on this starf of it's pristine. They

497
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Speaker 3: do a great job out there. Nothing wrong with the

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Speaker 3: playing surface at go media.

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Speaker 19: Oh brilliant.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Fortunately I won't be there today. I've got something else on,

502
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Speaker 20: which is a real shame. But yeah, just on the

503
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Speaker 20: two missing captains, you've got to remember that, you know,

504
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Speaker 20: we were winning without for Sheer Harris when he was injured,

505
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Speaker 20: so that won't be such a I mean we're obviously

506
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Speaker 20: a better team with both of them on the field,

507
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Speaker 20: but hopefully the replacements Bunty can step up. Jackson Ford's

508
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Speaker 20: impressed me, prop and I think Kirk Caple is stepping

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Speaker 20: into the captain's role. You know, he's an Origin and

510
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Speaker 20: Australian player, so he'll have the guys up. It's going

511
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Speaker 20: to be a massive occasion obviously, when the New Jersey

512
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Speaker 20: and when the lights go out and they're running out,

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Speaker 20: it's going to be what an atmosphere?

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Speaker 3: Do you like Roger Toybasischek on the wing? Are you

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Speaker 3: a fan of that?

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Speaker 20: I'm a fan of Roger and he were in the

517
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Speaker 20: field as long as it says no one better that

518
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Speaker 20: can take his place, and I think he deserves to

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Speaker 20: be there. He's got a ton of experiences, you know,

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Speaker 20: and he still has it. So yeah, I'm there. I'd

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Speaker 20: break to see how you leave a Towell beck on

522
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Speaker 20: the side. You know, him and Adam poine P I

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Speaker 20: think will be a great combination. I think across the park.

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Speaker 20: You know, we've got an awesome bench.

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Speaker 16: We should get.

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Speaker 20: Get it done today.

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Speaker 6: But as I.

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Speaker 20: Said before, I am nervous because Camera are a good team.

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Speaker 20: They're a very very good teams. They've only got one

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Speaker 20: player out to Origin and they're pretty stacked as you know,

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Speaker 20: Papaly got Origin players, internationals, riddle throughout that side. But

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Speaker 20: it's going to be one hell of a match made

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Speaker 20: and I don't care if we win by one point. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: I think we'll get it done today mate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree pull. I think it'll be

536
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Speaker 3: similar to what they've been doing winning the tight ones.

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Speaker 3: And even though it's probably not good for our fing

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Speaker 3: of oils and the coaches are heart rate, you get

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Speaker 3: across the line any any way, you can enjoy your

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Speaker 3: day made always good chatting league with you.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, thanks pointing you're on your.

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Speaker 3: Paul chairs mate. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is our number, Lyle, how are you feeling about tonight

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Speaker 3: or are you you know, are you a Warriors fan

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 15: Actually almost how Sydney fan? But I've got a lot

547
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Speaker 15: of friends and relatives. The Warriors supporters always like to

548
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Speaker 15: put me to boll board, which is not always appreciated,

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Speaker 15: but I'm nothing if not honest.

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Speaker 6: Look, Paul took the words.

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Speaker 15: Right, and I met with no disrespect to Fisher Harris.

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Speaker 15: They've been winning without him with the exception of the

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Speaker 15: last week, and he could have just about cost them

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Speaker 15: the game. Had that ball bounced in at the end,

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Speaker 15: the Dolphins probably would have got the bacon. They've been winning,

556
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Speaker 15: and they've been winning the tight ones, but psychologically and

557
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Speaker 15: physically it does take a toll on the body. I

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Speaker 15: think they're really going to miss Barnet tonight, I got

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Speaker 15: my home crowded, but I think Camber. Hopefully I'm wrong,

560
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Speaker 15: but I think Camber will get the money. My view,

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Speaker 15: I did tip the Dolphins to get the money last

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Speaker 15: week and ten minutes ago Warriors are up by sixteen. No,

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Speaker 15: I thought, obviously I'm talking out and me behind.

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Speaker 3: But well they almost got there. They almost did.

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Speaker 15: They the home crowd and everything. But what I think

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Speaker 15: I've said to you before this part of the season,

567
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Speaker 15: you can't win a championship, but you can certainly lose it.

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Speaker 15: So even if they get out tonight with a drawer

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Speaker 15: and the point each, as long as they're banking something

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Speaker 15: and the key is brought them to peak at the

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Speaker 15: right end of the season, have everyone available. Canterbury and

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Speaker 15: other clubs are looking at Melbourne with the exception of

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Speaker 15: a couple of games, are looking very very impressive. Melvin

574
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Speaker 15: probably keep it up, but Canterbury I don't know, because

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Speaker 15: you know, you can only play to a certain level

576
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Speaker 15: for so long. So it's about getting into the finals,

577
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Speaker 15: getting a reasonable vision and taking it from there. Because

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Speaker 15: if you make the Grand Final, anything can happen on

579
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Speaker 15: the day, you know, like Awk on the Sea you've

580
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Speaker 15: been playing well all season and everything. I thought they'd

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Speaker 15: get the job done last night. But you know, as

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Speaker 15: I made of mind said, shit happens, and unfortunately it

583
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Speaker 15: did last night. Urcal left Sea but no, so I

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Speaker 15: think it'll be a very close game. Having said that,

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Speaker 15: if the Warriors will win or won't be surprised.

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Speaker 18: I don't see a.

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Speaker 15: Blowout either way, but a real arm wristle and hopefully

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Speaker 15: we've got enough left than the tenth for the last

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Speaker 15: few weeks to be able to complete the complete the job.

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Speaker 3: Well said Lyell. Well said, mate, yeah, I think a

591
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Speaker 3: tight one. I think most people probably think it's a

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Speaker 3: it's a single figure winning margin for one or other

593
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Speaker 3: of the sites. Golden point not out of the question.

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Speaker 3: Six o'clock. Well, just after six o'clock tonight, Warriors Raiders

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Speaker 3: Edgo Media Mount Smart twenty three to one.

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Speaker 2: We'll Weekends Force.

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Speaker 3: So Aukland FC's maiden season has come to an end,

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Speaker 3: beaten on aggregate in the semi final of the A League.

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Speaker 3: That I didn't mean to play that, that's Steve Corricer's

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Speaker 3: post match reent. What I was gonna play was this.

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Speaker 7: Have turned it around from one nil down and they

602
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Speaker 7: they leaded to to one two nil on the night,

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Speaker 7: Melbourne Victory's fans come flooding towards the Uruguayan turned Australian

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Speaker 7: and Bruno forda Rolie with goal number one hundred and

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Speaker 7: twelve in the A League has Kevin Melbourne victory the

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Speaker 7: advartage in.

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Speaker 3: The semi and they held onto it. Melbourne victory winning

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Speaker 3: two nil on the night two one on aggregate. They

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Speaker 3: advanced to the Grand Final next week and Auckland f

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Speaker 3: C's season is over. Former Wellington Phoenix striking Our football

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Speaker 3: analyst and commentator Paul eifelers with us, Paul, you watch

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Speaker 3: on from sideline last night before the game heading into

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Speaker 3: this one, did you see this coming Melbourne victory with

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Speaker 3: the smash and grab?

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Speaker 21: I didn't. I didn't, But then when I saw the

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Speaker 21: demeano I suppose of arfter dinners before the game, I

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Speaker 21: was a little worried, little concern because I thought he

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Speaker 21: was so confident coming with a team that hadn't scored

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Speaker 21: a goal against them, had won a game against them,

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Speaker 21: and he duly delivered that plan and changed his shape,

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Speaker 21: which led to a lot of problems for Auckland, who

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Speaker 21: couldn't really find a way. They did have a couple

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Speaker 21: of opportunities, and obviously we'll probably talk about the disallowed

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Speaker 21: goal in a minute, but it was a pretty cagy

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Speaker 21: affair and I think it suited Victory more than it

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Speaker 21: did Auckland on the knight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to talk about that this allowed goal.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of Victory's performance, where were they better

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Speaker 3: specifically than Auckland FC last night?

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Speaker 21: I think in both boxes. I thought they defended really

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Speaker 21: well and kept Auckland to just a couple of chances,

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Speaker 21: and although they didn't create too much, they were really

633
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Speaker 21: efficient in front of goal. And I think it was

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Speaker 21: a really smart move by Dealers in putting in the

635
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Speaker 21: old campaigner in Fauller Early, like the guy is a

636
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Speaker 21: special players called, you know, bundles of goals over the years,

637
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Speaker 21: been jumping at the bits of play this season, probably

638
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Speaker 21: not played as much as he would like, but he

639
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Speaker 21: was so hungry coming into this one, and you could

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Speaker 21: just see how animated he was after the game. He

641
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Speaker 21: how much this meant to everybody at the victory?

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Speaker 3: What good a lift? So you have done differently, have

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Speaker 3: done better?

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Speaker 21: Oh BlimE me. I think a lot a lot, was

645
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Speaker 21: a lot of the problems that Maya couldn't move as

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Speaker 21: well as he normally could. Man has been brilliant for

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Speaker 21: them this season. I just don't think he was quite

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Speaker 21: up to it. Obviously, carrying an injury. Was always going

649
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Speaker 21: to play if he could, and and and always puts

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Speaker 21: in a shift. But I didn't think he was as

651
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Speaker 21: dynamic as he usually is, and that led to others

652
00:30:34,067 --> 00:30:35,467
Speaker 21: having to step up, and I just don't think they

653
00:30:35,507 --> 00:30:38,467
Speaker 21: quite did unfortunately. I mean, you're bringing on someone like

654
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Speaker 21: Gillian who's not scored a goal this year to try

655
00:30:41,627 --> 00:30:43,267
Speaker 21: and get you back in the game, and I don't

656
00:30:43,547 --> 00:30:46,027
Speaker 21: I don't know if Steve Corriker would have done much

657
00:30:46,267 --> 00:30:48,747
Speaker 21: different if he could have done it again. You know,

658
00:30:48,787 --> 00:30:52,707
Speaker 21: he will rue the mischarges in the first leg. Certainly

659
00:30:52,707 --> 00:30:55,667
Speaker 21: that the stripe from Marina that hits indied both pos,

660
00:30:55,787 --> 00:30:58,387
Speaker 21: that goes into probably a different game at home, and

661
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Speaker 21: then obviously they disallowed goals is the one they're going

662
00:31:00,267 --> 00:31:02,307
Speaker 21: to hang their hats on, which which they duly and

663
00:31:02,387 --> 00:31:04,187
Speaker 21: fairly should because I thought it was a goal.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well it's it's unpack at allland Boss Steve

665
00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:11,947
Speaker 3: Carriker absolutely alemant that the goal should have stood and

666
00:31:12,067 --> 00:31:12,787
Speaker 3: give us your view.

667
00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:16,587
Speaker 21: Yeah, First of all, I thought maybe the ball has

668
00:31:16,587 --> 00:31:19,467
Speaker 21: gone out as it's been crossed, And as soon as

669
00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:23,227
Speaker 21: that was clear that it hadn't, then I couldn't see

670
00:31:23,227 --> 00:31:25,107
Speaker 21: how they could be one hundred percent sure that the

671
00:31:25,107 --> 00:31:26,907
Speaker 21: ball has gone out and back in. I know you've

672
00:31:26,907 --> 00:31:28,667
Speaker 21: got a line of them there, but the fact that

673
00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:32,307
Speaker 21: there's no way that the via can make a definitive call,

674
00:31:33,107 --> 00:31:35,547
Speaker 21: what a way to go. You know, that's that's horrific.

675
00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:38,147
Speaker 3: Had that goal gone in, and I know we're talking

676
00:31:38,227 --> 00:31:40,387
Speaker 3: hypotheticals here, that would have squared things up at two,

677
00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:44,627
Speaker 3: or would they have given Auckland FC the advantage momentum wise?

678
00:31:44,667 --> 00:31:46,587
Speaker 3: Do you think they would have brought it home from there?

679
00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,587
Speaker 21: I do, I do, But I think again, if you

680
00:31:49,627 --> 00:31:51,627
Speaker 21: spoke to victory, they'd have thought, I told bump in

681
00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:53,227
Speaker 21: the road and we'll go and get the job done,

682
00:31:53,267 --> 00:31:55,307
Speaker 21: because they certainly weren't out of the game at any

683
00:31:55,307 --> 00:31:58,387
Speaker 21: point and didn't look too flustered. So it's all left

684
00:31:58,427 --> 00:32:02,227
Speaker 21: butts and maybes. But I think yees to not have

685
00:32:02,307 --> 00:32:05,067
Speaker 21: that sand We'll never know, and I think that's the

686
00:32:05,107 --> 00:32:06,627
Speaker 21: thing that will get Steve Corocker.

687
00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:09,227
Speaker 3: In the long term, and there is obviously a sense

688
00:32:09,227 --> 00:32:11,987
Speaker 3: of disappointment and deflation around today. It'll take a while

689
00:32:11,987 --> 00:32:14,147
Speaker 3: for these players to pick themselves up. But how long

690
00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:17,307
Speaker 3: will it be before they can actually feel proud of

691
00:32:17,307 --> 00:32:19,067
Speaker 3: what they've achieved across the whole season.

692
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Speaker 21: I think I think it'll be a little while. Yeah,

693
00:32:22,267 --> 00:32:24,707
Speaker 21: I think, Like I said, I think if they'd been

694
00:32:24,707 --> 00:32:27,147
Speaker 21: beaten fair and square, is almost easier to take. But

695
00:32:27,227 --> 00:32:29,187
Speaker 21: I think they're probably feeling that it's been stolen away

696
00:32:29,187 --> 00:32:31,187
Speaker 21: from them, so they'll they'll be bitter for a little while.

697
00:32:31,227 --> 00:32:34,067
Speaker 21: But in a funny kind of way, I think it

698
00:32:34,107 --> 00:32:37,907
Speaker 21: will stand in good stead. I think they'd be super

699
00:32:37,947 --> 00:32:41,507
Speaker 21: super hungry next season, and I'm not sure. I'm not

700
00:32:41,507 --> 00:32:43,347
Speaker 21: that they wouldn't have been hungry anyway, but I think

701
00:32:43,347 --> 00:32:47,507
Speaker 21: they'll be even hungry. I mean, Steve was absolutely devastated

702
00:32:47,587 --> 00:32:49,947
Speaker 21: last night, so angry, but I think he'll go away

703
00:32:49,947 --> 00:32:53,507
Speaker 21: and go and look, we were close, amazing work, but

704
00:32:53,707 --> 00:32:56,147
Speaker 21: let's go again. So I think it stands in good

705
00:32:56,147 --> 00:32:57,147
Speaker 21: stead long term.

706
00:32:57,227 --> 00:32:59,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just on that, just to finish, most of

707
00:32:59,707 --> 00:33:02,027
Speaker 3: these players are resigned for next year. There's the odd

708
00:33:02,027 --> 00:33:04,627
Speaker 3: one or two who might depart. We know Alex Paulson's

709
00:33:04,667 --> 00:33:07,547
Speaker 3: going for example, but can you see them going again

710
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,627
Speaker 3: or will there be a degree of second season syndrome

711
00:33:10,667 --> 00:33:12,947
Speaker 3: now that everybody knows what they're up against when they

712
00:33:12,987 --> 00:33:13,867
Speaker 3: take on Auckland FC.

713
00:33:15,707 --> 00:33:17,587
Speaker 21: I think I think they're too many smart people at

714
00:33:17,587 --> 00:33:20,067
Speaker 21: the club to let that happen. I really do. I

715
00:33:20,107 --> 00:33:21,787
Speaker 21: think that Bill Foley does things right. I think he's

716
00:33:21,787 --> 00:33:24,267
Speaker 21: got the right people in place. I think they will

717
00:33:24,267 --> 00:33:26,507
Speaker 21: regroup and they'll go again, and I think, you know,

718
00:33:26,747 --> 00:33:29,667
Speaker 21: I expect them to be firmly in the in the

719
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Speaker 21: top four. Will they win the minor premiers again? That's

720
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Speaker 21: going to be really difficult. It's difficult for any team

721
00:33:34,347 --> 00:33:35,867
Speaker 21: to do that two years in a row given the

722
00:33:36,027 --> 00:33:38,387
Speaker 21: nature of the league. But I think with a couple

723
00:33:38,427 --> 00:33:40,547
Speaker 21: of signers, they clearly need a goalkeeper. I think it's

724
00:33:40,547 --> 00:33:43,187
Speaker 21: probably Michael Wood's term to be the number one. I

725
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:46,387
Speaker 21: think they'll go and get a number two. Obviously, if

726
00:33:46,587 --> 00:33:50,187
Speaker 21: Maxi Mata does return to Shrewsbury, they're going to need

727
00:33:50,227 --> 00:33:52,627
Speaker 21: another forward and I think that's probably where they could

728
00:33:52,627 --> 00:33:56,987
Speaker 21: do with strengthen anyway, So they'll be in in for

729
00:33:57,027 --> 00:33:59,227
Speaker 21: a nine for sure. So I think they are the

730
00:33:59,267 --> 00:34:01,587
Speaker 21: two ends of the pits that they need to strengthen,

731
00:34:02,587 --> 00:34:05,587
Speaker 21: and then maybe one more in the middle of the

732
00:34:05,627 --> 00:34:07,387
Speaker 21: parks or straight dun spine.

733
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Speaker 3: Great working alongside you as always last night if thanks

734
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:11,707
Speaker 3: for your chat this afternoon mate.

735
00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:13,027
Speaker 13: Thanks mate.

736
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Speaker 3: That's Paul Eiffel with his view now the incident he

737
00:34:15,747 --> 00:34:17,947
Speaker 3: talked about there, the disallowed goal. This has become the

738
00:34:17,987 --> 00:34:21,227
Speaker 3: big talking point out of this game. With the score

739
00:34:21,267 --> 00:34:23,147
Speaker 3: at two nil on the night two one on aggregate,

740
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:27,467
Speaker 3: so Aukland left c chasing an equalizer. Ghiziumomy chases a

741
00:34:27,507 --> 00:34:30,067
Speaker 3: ball down the left hand side and reaches it just

742
00:34:30,187 --> 00:34:32,787
Speaker 3: before it it goes out for what would be a goal.

743
00:34:32,907 --> 00:34:36,667
Speaker 3: Cack wraps his left foot around it and then crosses

744
00:34:36,707 --> 00:34:40,187
Speaker 3: to the far post. Logan Rogerson arrives and from pretty

745
00:34:40,227 --> 00:34:43,707
Speaker 3: much on the goal line heads it in. The adjudication

746
00:34:43,987 --> 00:34:48,227
Speaker 3: from the Lino the assistant referee is that the ball

747
00:34:48,427 --> 00:34:51,067
Speaker 3: as it was being crossed has gone behind and then

748
00:34:51,107 --> 00:34:54,667
Speaker 3: come back into the field of play. At first, there

749
00:34:54,747 --> 00:34:57,147
Speaker 3: was doubt that Giziumo Mai had got to the ball

750
00:34:57,227 --> 00:35:01,307
Speaker 3: before it had crossed the line, but on a replay

751
00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:04,187
Speaker 3: that was shown that he kept it in the reason

752
00:35:04,227 --> 00:35:06,547
Speaker 3: that the the goal was ruled out was because had

753
00:35:06,627 --> 00:35:09,947
Speaker 3: drifted behind before coming back into the field of play

754
00:35:09,947 --> 00:35:13,067
Speaker 3: and being headed in. There was major controversy about this.

755
00:35:13,587 --> 00:35:19,547
Speaker 3: There is no conclusive camera angle on it. VAR wasn't

756
00:35:19,587 --> 00:35:23,907
Speaker 3: able to see any other view that helped make a decision.

757
00:35:24,467 --> 00:35:27,347
Speaker 3: So the assistant referees flag up in the first instance

758
00:35:27,987 --> 00:35:33,467
Speaker 3: stands because there's no conclusive evidence from VAR to overturn it.

759
00:35:33,947 --> 00:35:38,667
Speaker 3: Steve Coricker was absolutely furious afterwards. He'd calmed down a

760
00:35:38,707 --> 00:35:40,787
Speaker 3: little bit by the time the press conference arrived, but

761
00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:43,507
Speaker 3: here are his views afterwards.

762
00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:44,147
Speaker 22: One hundred.

763
00:35:45,507 --> 00:35:47,307
Speaker 23: You know, I think we all saw the replay the

764
00:35:47,347 --> 00:35:51,987
Speaker 23: balls in play, So for me, the referees is bad

765
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:55,067
Speaker 23: decision linesman has and so is the var whoever was

766
00:35:55,147 --> 00:35:58,307
Speaker 23: in charge up there, because that would have obviously helped

767
00:35:58,347 --> 00:35:59,467
Speaker 23: us get back into the game.

768
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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't our day.

769
00:36:03,707 --> 00:36:06,027
Speaker 23: We had a few half chances, but it just wasn't

770
00:36:06,067 --> 00:36:07,867
Speaker 23: full for us, and we switched off a couple of

771
00:36:07,907 --> 00:36:11,347
Speaker 23: times to let them get into the lead. But you know,

772
00:36:11,387 --> 00:36:13,427
Speaker 23: for me that we weren't given the opportunity to get

773
00:36:13,427 --> 00:36:15,427
Speaker 23: back into the game because of that decision as well.

774
00:36:15,827 --> 00:36:17,627
Speaker 23: You know, I got to say that, I'm very proud

775
00:36:17,667 --> 00:36:20,267
Speaker 23: of the players and all the stuff for having an

776
00:36:20,307 --> 00:36:24,587
Speaker 23: amazing season, but it's obviously got caught cut short, which

777
00:36:24,667 --> 00:36:29,107
Speaker 23: is disappointing, especially the way it got cut short as well.

778
00:36:29,147 --> 00:36:32,067
Speaker 23: I think I'm more disappointed about that as well, not

779
00:36:32,107 --> 00:36:36,827
Speaker 23: having the opportunity to to keep fighting again. It doesn't

780
00:36:36,827 --> 00:36:40,027
Speaker 23: matter what happens now, because you know it's happened during

781
00:36:40,027 --> 00:36:42,147
Speaker 23: the season. We've got apologies after the game. I don't

782
00:36:42,147 --> 00:36:44,987
Speaker 23: want an apology because you know, I want the right

783
00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:49,147
Speaker 23: decision to be made, and my opinion is they got

784
00:36:49,147 --> 00:36:52,187
Speaker 23: it wrong, and you know that could have cost us

785
00:36:52,587 --> 00:36:54,947
Speaker 23: getting back into the game, for one and getting into

786
00:36:54,987 --> 00:36:58,587
Speaker 23: a final. So you're talking about big decisions, so you know,

787
00:36:58,747 --> 00:37:00,347
Speaker 23: you would hope they get it right, but I don't

788
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:01,787
Speaker 23: think so.

789
00:37:01,227 --> 00:37:03,987
Speaker 3: There you go, he'd coach Steve Kurriker afterwards really unequivocal

790
00:37:04,027 --> 00:37:06,787
Speaker 3: he thought that the ball had stayed in. I've seen

791
00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:10,507
Speaker 3: a lot of discussion about this this morning and late

792
00:37:10,587 --> 00:37:14,747
Speaker 3: last night after the game, and typically particularly today, and

793
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:18,107
Speaker 3: there's actually no way of knowing one way or the

794
00:37:18,107 --> 00:37:20,347
Speaker 3: other whether the ball has gone out or not. Some

795
00:37:20,387 --> 00:37:23,387
Speaker 3: people are adamant, like Steve Corricer that stayed in. Others

796
00:37:23,387 --> 00:37:26,907
Speaker 3: are equally sure that the ball's gone out. Without a

797
00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:30,547
Speaker 3: definitive camera angle, it's actually impossible to tell. Can you

798
00:37:30,547 --> 00:37:31,947
Speaker 3: know what you think though? And if you can add

799
00:37:31,987 --> 00:37:35,107
Speaker 3: any context or any of your views to this, Oh

800
00:37:35,107 --> 00:37:37,587
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, we can talk about

801
00:37:37,587 --> 00:37:39,267
Speaker 3: a football thirteen to one. News Talk set be.

802
00:37:40,667 --> 00:37:43,347
Speaker 2: The big issues on and off the field.

803
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Speaker 1: Call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward

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Speaker 3: Ten to one. Hello, Henry, Hey, Jason, here's going mane good? Thanks?

807
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Speaker 16: Mate?

808
00:37:57,227 --> 00:37:57,427
Speaker 24: Good?

809
00:37:57,547 --> 00:37:59,867
Speaker 18: Hey? I mean you fork only see you know, they're

810
00:37:59,947 --> 00:38:01,267
Speaker 18: just just corner.

811
00:38:01,067 --> 00:38:02,787
Speaker 15: Like robbed really, but you need to look at a

812
00:38:02,867 --> 00:38:03,747
Speaker 15: ball million.

813
00:38:03,467 --> 00:38:04,947
Speaker 24: Times to see whether it was right or wrong.

814
00:38:05,027 --> 00:38:07,027
Speaker 18: It's just hard to that one.

815
00:38:07,747 --> 00:38:10,547
Speaker 3: It's You're right, Henry, it's impossible to tell. One thing.

816
00:38:10,587 --> 00:38:14,307
Speaker 3: I noticed I watched about seventy five thousand replays of

817
00:38:14,347 --> 00:38:18,827
Speaker 3: it this morning. And Jack duncan and goal as the

818
00:38:18,867 --> 00:38:21,387
Speaker 3: cross is coming in, he looks up, tracks the flight

819
00:38:21,427 --> 00:38:24,867
Speaker 3: of the ball and then stops. So he looks up

820
00:38:24,907 --> 00:38:26,907
Speaker 3: and thinks oh, that's gone behind. And then when the

821
00:38:26,907 --> 00:38:30,107
Speaker 3: whistle doesn't go, he turns around and resumes, but he

822
00:38:30,627 --> 00:38:33,187
Speaker 3: looks up and and I just just see him, you know,

823
00:38:33,227 --> 00:38:35,587
Speaker 3: almost stop say Okay, that's gone out. But that's just

824
00:38:35,627 --> 00:38:36,347
Speaker 3: one guy though, you.

825
00:38:36,267 --> 00:38:37,547
Speaker 18: Know, I know.

826
00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:40,347
Speaker 24: But the other thing I just wanted to say quickly

827
00:38:40,627 --> 00:38:44,467
Speaker 24: is why don't they, you know, have this like the EPL,

828
00:38:44,667 --> 00:38:46,187
Speaker 24: Like you know, he's living for with the best team

829
00:38:46,187 --> 00:38:48,907
Speaker 24: all the season, so they won't so like oftiately see

830
00:38:48,947 --> 00:38:51,787
Speaker 24: only off two games. I think, you know, I know

831
00:38:51,827 --> 00:38:54,147
Speaker 24: they've got the plate final, but you know, you don't

832
00:38:54,147 --> 00:38:55,627
Speaker 24: seem to get a big reward if you have been

833
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:57,307
Speaker 24: the best team all year and you could still lose

834
00:38:57,347 --> 00:38:59,347
Speaker 24: in the semi final. And just you know, whereas a

835
00:38:59,387 --> 00:39:01,067
Speaker 24: view of the best sing more all year in the

836
00:39:01,107 --> 00:39:02,907
Speaker 24: common you wouldn't hold they'd see it should be.

837
00:39:03,187 --> 00:39:07,427
Speaker 3: It's our infatuation with finals down here, Henry, infatuation with

838
00:39:07,587 --> 00:39:10,347
Speaker 3: knockout games at the end of seasons. You're right, you

839
00:39:10,387 --> 00:39:12,107
Speaker 3: tell people on the you know, in the UK and

840
00:39:12,147 --> 00:39:13,987
Speaker 3: the Premier League are at the end of the Premier

841
00:39:14,067 --> 00:39:15,627
Speaker 3: League season, the top six are going to go into

842
00:39:15,627 --> 00:39:17,827
Speaker 3: a knockout competition and the winner of that text a

843
00:39:17,827 --> 00:39:19,667
Speaker 3: you're going to be the champion, they'd laugh at you,

844
00:39:19,747 --> 00:39:20,947
Speaker 3: they'd throw it back at your mate.

845
00:39:21,267 --> 00:39:21,427
Speaker 4: You know.

846
00:39:21,547 --> 00:39:25,467
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, Henry, good the chat to your mate, and

847
00:39:25,587 --> 00:39:27,547
Speaker 3: I think you're right. It's impossible to tell Tim you

848
00:39:27,547 --> 00:39:29,827
Speaker 3: were there last night. How was the atmosphere and at

849
00:39:29,827 --> 00:39:33,387
Speaker 3: the end probably not great. But during the game, during.

850
00:39:33,187 --> 00:39:34,507
Speaker 25: The game, I closed my eyes.

851
00:39:34,547 --> 00:39:35,507
Speaker 9: I thought I was back in there.

852
00:39:36,147 --> 00:39:40,987
Speaker 25: That you just referenced to UK football just absolutely metric,

853
00:39:41,107 --> 00:39:44,547
Speaker 25: absolutely buzzing. That pot is just visiting. It was flair

854
00:39:44,747 --> 00:39:49,227
Speaker 25: smokes the flags. Yes, it was buzzing, really really good, singing.

855
00:39:49,147 --> 00:39:49,747
Speaker 13: Very very good.

856
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:53,027
Speaker 25: And then Melbourne did their job basically they're very that's

857
00:39:53,067 --> 00:39:55,587
Speaker 25: like a punch. Second goal gutted, gutted?

858
00:39:56,067 --> 00:39:57,907
Speaker 3: Did you get a view? Did you get a view

859
00:39:57,947 --> 00:39:59,427
Speaker 3: of the disallowed goal? Where were you sitting?

860
00:40:00,187 --> 00:40:00,307
Speaker 9: Oh?

861
00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:02,387
Speaker 25: I was right up in the gods of the West End,

862
00:40:02,387 --> 00:40:04,587
Speaker 25: I think. But I was watching the screens, kept on

863
00:40:04,627 --> 00:40:07,467
Speaker 25: watching the screens, kept on watching it, and heart was

864
00:40:07,507 --> 00:40:10,307
Speaker 25: convinced it it was still in. But obviously I think

865
00:40:10,347 --> 00:40:12,027
Speaker 25: it was in as he kicked it within it that

866
00:40:12,147 --> 00:40:13,627
Speaker 25: bent out and then came back in again, I think.

867
00:40:13,667 --> 00:40:15,827
Speaker 25: But it's just that horrible heart in your mouth thing,

868
00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,187
Speaker 25: and because that would have made a big difference, I think.

869
00:40:18,187 --> 00:40:20,667
Speaker 25: But they were too flat in the first half. Unfortunately,

870
00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:22,027
Speaker 25: too flat in the first half.

871
00:40:22,307 --> 00:40:25,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, I kind of have to agree. I mean,

872
00:40:25,627 --> 00:40:27,427
Speaker 3: I've watched Aalkland the f see a lot this season,

873
00:40:27,507 --> 00:40:31,787
Speaker 3: and yeah, they weren't quite themselves. Whether they got stuck

874
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:34,467
Speaker 3: sort of not knowing whether to chase it or to

875
00:40:34,547 --> 00:40:37,987
Speaker 3: sit and defend the lead, I'm not sure, but I

876
00:40:38,067 --> 00:40:39,547
Speaker 3: might I've got to get a break away. But yeah, look,

877
00:40:39,747 --> 00:40:42,787
Speaker 3: let's chat football again soon. But yeah, I think they'll

878
00:40:42,787 --> 00:40:45,187
Speaker 3: look back and maybe the disallowed goal has kind of

879
00:40:45,187 --> 00:40:47,987
Speaker 3: masked this a little bit, but they won't be happy

880
00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:51,507
Speaker 3: with their performance. It wasn't the kind of performance that's

881
00:40:51,547 --> 00:40:54,947
Speaker 3: got them where they got to the season. Seven to one.

882
00:40:56,827 --> 00:40:59,507
Speaker 1: Good from the trag field and the court on your

883
00:40:59,587 --> 00:41:02,707
Speaker 1: Home of Sport weekend it with Jason.

884
00:41:03,987 --> 00:41:07,107
Speaker 3: Four to one. I've just been seeing some foot's taken

885
00:41:07,107 --> 00:41:10,827
Speaker 3: by a fan directly behind Ghijiomo May as he crosses

886
00:41:10,827 --> 00:41:14,907
Speaker 3: the ball. So it's a good angle and it looks

887
00:41:14,947 --> 00:41:18,187
Speaker 3: like it's gone behind from that angle and I look

888
00:41:18,227 --> 00:41:21,267
Speaker 3: across and the assistant referee, the linesman is right in line.

889
00:41:21,307 --> 00:41:24,067
Speaker 3: He is standing on the corner flag looking across, so

890
00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:27,827
Speaker 3: he's got the best view from that side. But I'm

891
00:41:27,827 --> 00:41:31,187
Speaker 3: almost positive you could show Steve Corriker any footage you

892
00:41:31,387 --> 00:41:34,307
Speaker 3: like and he still will not agree.

893
00:41:35,267 --> 00:41:38,147
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fource issues on

894
00:41:38,547 --> 00:41:42,427
Speaker 1: and after field, it's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

895
00:41:42,507 --> 00:41:44,987
Speaker 1: pay on your home of Sport.

896
00:41:46,107 --> 00:41:50,907
Speaker 3: US one seven. Welcome into the show, Welcome back to

897
00:41:50,907 --> 00:41:52,787
Speaker 3: the show. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk. Said

898
00:41:52,827 --> 00:41:57,347
Speaker 3: b I'm Jason Pine. Anny McDonald's producing the show. In

899
00:41:57,387 --> 00:41:59,587
Speaker 3: about an hour or so, we'll get inside the Chiefs camp.

900
00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:03,747
Speaker 3: After their mauling of mauat Pacifica last night, I came

901
00:42:03,787 --> 00:42:05,307
Speaker 3: away from the football I thought I had better check

902
00:42:05,347 --> 00:42:13,547
Speaker 3: the rugby score. Eighty five seven. Eighty five seven got

903
00:42:13,547 --> 00:42:16,307
Speaker 3: to be an outlier right from mo Wanna Pacifica. Even

904
00:42:16,307 --> 00:42:21,507
Speaker 3: when they've been beaten this year Majana Pacifica, they've scored points.

905
00:42:21,587 --> 00:42:23,467
Speaker 3: I remember the first two or three games of the

906
00:42:23,507 --> 00:42:27,307
Speaker 3: season they lost, they scored all sorts of points. They

907
00:42:27,347 --> 00:42:31,387
Speaker 3: were one of the leading points scorers after the first

908
00:42:32,027 --> 00:42:33,827
Speaker 3: two or three games of the season. And of course,

909
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:35,307
Speaker 3: as we know, they've beaten all of the other New

910
00:42:35,387 --> 00:42:37,907
Speaker 3: Zealand sides this year still in with a shout for

911
00:42:37,947 --> 00:42:42,027
Speaker 3: the top six, but eighty five seven, as I say,

912
00:42:42,067 --> 00:42:44,827
Speaker 3: got to be an outlier. Maner Pacific is still with

913
00:42:44,907 --> 00:42:47,947
Speaker 3: the chance to make the top six. Incidentally, if they

914
00:42:47,947 --> 00:42:52,427
Speaker 3: can beat the Hurricanes next weekend, they keep themselves well

915
00:42:52,467 --> 00:42:56,267
Speaker 3: and truly in the hunt. Just having a look at

916
00:42:56,307 --> 00:42:58,947
Speaker 3: the table at the moment, actually, Maner Pacifica are still

917
00:42:59,107 --> 00:43:03,947
Speaker 3: sixth twenty eight points, the Blues seventh on twenty eight points.

918
00:43:05,827 --> 00:43:08,787
Speaker 3: Now the first separator between teams who are tied on

919
00:43:08,907 --> 00:43:13,627
Speaker 3: points is the number of winds. So yeah, if ONEA

920
00:43:13,667 --> 00:43:16,427
Speaker 3: Pacifica beat the Hurricanes next week, even if the Blues

921
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:19,387
Speaker 3: beat the Waratars and they finish on the same number

922
00:43:19,427 --> 00:43:21,947
Speaker 3: of points, more one A Pacifica would have more wins

923
00:43:21,987 --> 00:43:25,467
Speaker 3: and therefore would go through. The Waratars are still and

924
00:43:25,547 --> 00:43:31,107
Speaker 3: with a chance. By the way, this after their super

925
00:43:31,147 --> 00:43:33,587
Speaker 3: point win last night over the Force out in Perth.

926
00:43:34,707 --> 00:43:37,667
Speaker 3: So the Waratars actually their path to the final isn't

927
00:43:37,667 --> 00:43:40,467
Speaker 3: that difficult as far as trying to do the maths

928
00:43:40,507 --> 00:43:43,227
Speaker 3: are concerned. The Waratars simply have to when I say

929
00:43:43,227 --> 00:43:45,267
Speaker 3: simply simply have to go to Edon Park next week

930
00:43:45,267 --> 00:43:49,027
Speaker 3: and beat the Blues and then hope that the Hurricanes

931
00:43:49,027 --> 00:43:53,227
Speaker 3: beat more ONEA PACIFICA and they'll be in. So actually,

932
00:43:53,827 --> 00:43:55,907
Speaker 3: the Waratars with plenty to play for when they come

933
00:43:55,947 --> 00:43:59,227
Speaker 3: to Edon Park for the early game next Saturday afternoon. Anyway,

934
00:43:59,227 --> 00:44:01,827
Speaker 3: we're getting ahead of ourselves. We'll talk Chiefs rug beat

935
00:44:02,667 --> 00:44:05,187
Speaker 3: after two. James mcconey this, I'm going to pop in

936
00:44:05,187 --> 00:44:06,907
Speaker 3: for a chat. I want to talk some more with you.

937
00:44:07,667 --> 00:44:11,307
Speaker 3: Are the Monico Grand Prix? Liam Lawson's ninth on the grid.

938
00:44:12,627 --> 00:44:16,627
Speaker 3: As I said last hour, I've been told that the course,

939
00:44:16,987 --> 00:44:21,267
Speaker 3: the race track at Monaco is the hardest racetrack to

940
00:44:21,427 --> 00:44:24,027
Speaker 3: pass on. So if you start ninth on the grid,

941
00:44:24,827 --> 00:44:28,107
Speaker 3: you're in pretty good shape to finish ninth as long

942
00:44:28,147 --> 00:44:32,027
Speaker 3: as nothing goes wrong. So could Liam Lawson be in

943
00:44:32,107 --> 00:44:36,747
Speaker 3: line for his first points of the season. They're quite

944
00:44:36,827 --> 00:44:39,227
Speaker 3: keen here from motorsport fans on that, and in fact

945
00:44:39,227 --> 00:44:42,227
Speaker 3: it's motorsport. We We're going to start not with Formula one,

946
00:44:42,667 --> 00:44:45,427
Speaker 3: but with the one hundred and ninth running of the

947
00:44:45,667 --> 00:44:49,187
Speaker 3: iconic Indianapolis five hundred at the Brickyard tomorrow morning. That

948
00:44:49,227 --> 00:44:52,627
Speaker 3: starts at four forty five New Zealand time. Let's bring

949
00:44:52,667 --> 00:44:56,507
Speaker 3: in motorsport journalist American editor of We Are the Race,

950
00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:59,507
Speaker 3: Jack Benyon, Jack Gooda, have you back to talk Indy

951
00:44:59,587 --> 00:45:02,147
Speaker 3: five hundred. Let's start with the big story of the week.

952
00:45:02,187 --> 00:45:06,187
Speaker 3: Two time defending race winner Joseph Newgarden along with his

953
00:45:06,387 --> 00:45:10,507
Speaker 3: team Pinske teammate in twenty eighteen Indy five hundred winner

954
00:45:10,867 --> 00:45:14,027
Speaker 3: Will Power have been seen to the beck of the

955
00:45:14,067 --> 00:45:17,387
Speaker 3: starting grid after their cars were found to have been

956
00:45:17,547 --> 00:45:23,507
Speaker 3: illegally modified. Three staff members have been fired. Incredible story

957
00:45:23,507 --> 00:45:26,467
Speaker 3: that continues to babble along. Can you talk us through.

958
00:45:26,307 --> 00:45:28,187
Speaker 22: This incredible story?

959
00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:29,547
Speaker 26: First of all, thanks having me on. It's great to

960
00:45:29,547 --> 00:45:31,787
Speaker 26: be back. Really making this an annual slot now, it's

961
00:45:31,827 --> 00:45:35,867
Speaker 26: fantastic to be back. And yeah, really really massive week

962
00:45:35,867 --> 00:45:37,427
Speaker 26: in terms of storylines in they five hundred.

963
00:45:37,427 --> 00:45:38,227
Speaker 22: I'm sure getting some.

964
00:45:38,107 --> 00:45:40,147
Speaker 26: More of them shortly, but the Penske story was definitely

965
00:45:40,507 --> 00:45:42,227
Speaker 26: the biggest one of the week, with as you mentioned,

966
00:45:42,387 --> 00:45:44,027
Speaker 26: a modified part on the back of the car.

967
00:45:44,067 --> 00:45:46,507
Speaker 22: It's basically the rear crash structure of the car.

968
00:45:46,547 --> 00:45:48,307
Speaker 26: It's the bit that kind of holds the rear wing ups,

969
00:45:48,387 --> 00:45:50,427
Speaker 26: the bit that you can see that sticks up towards

970
00:45:50,427 --> 00:45:53,467
Speaker 26: the air that part was modified and that was found

971
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:59,307
Speaker 26: during a pre qualifying technical inspection on Sunday. They were

972
00:45:59,347 --> 00:46:02,067
Speaker 26: originally put to the back of the fast twelve qualifying session,

973
00:46:02,107 --> 00:46:03,987
Speaker 26: so they would have started at the back of that

974
00:46:04,067 --> 00:46:07,067
Speaker 26: so eleventh and twelve, but then after that have and

975
00:46:07,347 --> 00:46:09,507
Speaker 26: a day later they were given additional penalties and moved

976
00:46:09,507 --> 00:46:10,187
Speaker 26: to the back of the grid.

977
00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:11,907
Speaker 22: So yeah, massive story.

978
00:46:12,267 --> 00:46:15,947
Speaker 26: As you mentioned, three, basically the whole senior membership team

979
00:46:16,227 --> 00:46:18,267
Speaker 26: of the biggest team in Indy Car Team Penske have

980
00:46:18,427 --> 00:46:22,987
Speaker 26: left the organization and also big monetary fines and also

981
00:46:23,107 --> 00:46:25,347
Speaker 26: those people who've left have had to be replaced on

982
00:46:25,467 --> 00:46:28,787
Speaker 26: the cars. So those are three people who, although they

983
00:46:28,787 --> 00:46:31,427
Speaker 26: have sort of wider roles within the company, they also

984
00:46:31,467 --> 00:46:34,787
Speaker 26: have active roles in the five hundred strategists and engineers

985
00:46:34,827 --> 00:46:36,307
Speaker 26: and things like that, so they've all had to be

986
00:46:36,747 --> 00:46:40,507
Speaker 26: replaced at really short notice. So yeah, fantastic and massive

987
00:46:40,547 --> 00:46:44,707
Speaker 26: story to kind of bookmark the week and give people

988
00:46:44,747 --> 00:46:48,147
Speaker 26: a lot of opinions over whether you know, Penske should

989
00:46:48,147 --> 00:46:49,947
Speaker 26: have been allowed to race at all, whether they should

990
00:46:49,987 --> 00:46:51,427
Speaker 26: have been taken out the field, or whether they should

991
00:46:51,427 --> 00:46:53,387
Speaker 26: have been moved to the back as they have been,

992
00:46:53,467 --> 00:46:55,307
Speaker 26: so Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of

993
00:46:55,347 --> 00:46:58,067
Speaker 26: passion and a lot of opinions flying around in Indianapolis

994
00:46:58,067 --> 00:46:58,907
Speaker 26: this week, that's for sure.

995
00:46:59,147 --> 00:47:03,947
Speaker 3: What's yours, Jack? What's this deliberate? Were they deliberately knowingly

996
00:47:04,507 --> 00:47:06,227
Speaker 3: operating outside the rules here?

997
00:47:07,187 --> 00:47:07,827
Speaker 22: It's really hard.

998
00:47:07,827 --> 00:47:09,627
Speaker 26: I think Roger Penskey's pointed to the fact that these

999
00:47:09,627 --> 00:47:12,827
Speaker 26: parts were brought from Delara and they're sealed safety parts,

1000
00:47:12,987 --> 00:47:16,627
Speaker 26: so you know, it's really difficult to tell sort of

1001
00:47:16,707 --> 00:47:19,547
Speaker 26: where the where the start and where the finish of

1002
00:47:19,547 --> 00:47:22,987
Speaker 26: this story is, to be honest, but it's you know, fundamentally,

1003
00:47:23,027 --> 00:47:24,587
Speaker 26: this is a safety part of the car.

1004
00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:28,227
Speaker 22: So there's absolutely no modifications allowed to safety parts of

1005
00:47:28,267 --> 00:47:30,067
Speaker 22: the car obviously for obvious reasons.

1006
00:47:30,067 --> 00:47:32,547
Speaker 26: We need to keep the driver safe and if there

1007
00:47:32,587 --> 00:47:35,027
Speaker 26: is an accident, they need to be you know, they

1008
00:47:35,107 --> 00:47:36,307
Speaker 26: need to be safe and they need to be well

1009
00:47:36,307 --> 00:47:38,987
Speaker 26: looked after. So a really important part. And yeah, I

1010
00:47:39,027 --> 00:47:41,387
Speaker 26: think IndyCar really stamped the authority this week.

1011
00:47:41,227 --> 00:47:42,947
Speaker 22: And put their foot down over it.

1012
00:47:43,347 --> 00:47:45,707
Speaker 26: A lot of confusion about it because you know, I

1013
00:47:45,707 --> 00:47:49,947
Speaker 26: guess this part had appeared on the twenty twenty four

1014
00:47:49,987 --> 00:47:53,307
Speaker 26: winning Indy five hundred car of Joseph Newgarden. So a

1015
00:47:53,307 --> 00:47:54,907
Speaker 26: lot of people kind of looking back at last year's

1016
00:47:54,907 --> 00:47:57,347
Speaker 26: event as well, and you know, trying to work out

1017
00:47:57,347 --> 00:47:59,787
Speaker 26: whether the results might change from last year. Even so,

1018
00:48:00,467 --> 00:48:02,347
Speaker 26: you know this this is such a massive story and

1019
00:48:02,387 --> 00:48:04,067
Speaker 26: it's I'm sure it's going to run and run. I'm

1020
00:48:04,067 --> 00:48:05,787
Speaker 26: sure we've not found out everything we need to know

1021
00:48:05,787 --> 00:48:08,587
Speaker 26: about this story yet, but yeah, just to I guess

1022
00:48:08,587 --> 00:48:10,187
Speaker 26: put a bow on that the results are not going

1023
00:48:10,227 --> 00:48:12,267
Speaker 26: to be changed from last year. They've decided that they're

1024
00:48:12,267 --> 00:48:16,187
Speaker 26: going to be kept the same. And yeah, the organization

1025
00:48:16,267 --> 00:48:18,707
Speaker 26: has basically decided that because the cars the pass through

1026
00:48:18,747 --> 00:48:21,707
Speaker 26: technical inspection legally on Saturday, that means that they do

1027
00:48:22,187 --> 00:48:23,707
Speaker 26: deserve to be in the field and that they should

1028
00:48:23,707 --> 00:48:25,627
Speaker 26: be allowed to start the back of the grid.

1029
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:27,747
Speaker 3: All right, well, let's go to the beck of the grid. Then,

1030
00:48:27,867 --> 00:48:31,507
Speaker 3: could one or both of joseph Newgarden or will Power

1031
00:48:32,147 --> 00:48:34,627
Speaker 3: come from the back of the grid to challenge somewhere

1032
00:48:34,667 --> 00:48:37,227
Speaker 3: near the front or is that just not doable.

1033
00:48:38,307 --> 00:48:41,387
Speaker 26: It's it's a really it's a really difficult question to answer,

1034
00:48:41,427 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 26: But I'm going to give you a pretty honest answer

1035
00:48:43,147 --> 00:48:45,227
Speaker 26: and say that I think Joseph's New Garden is going

1036
00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:46,827
Speaker 26: to win this year's in the five hundred.

1037
00:48:46,947 --> 00:48:47,187
Speaker 2: Wow.

1038
00:48:47,547 --> 00:48:50,507
Speaker 26: Wow sounds ridiculous saying it from the fact that he's

1039
00:48:50,507 --> 00:48:52,267
Speaker 26: coming from thirty second on the grid and the fact

1040
00:48:52,267 --> 00:48:54,227
Speaker 26: that no car in the history of one hundred and

1041
00:48:54,347 --> 00:48:57,467
Speaker 26: nine Indy five hundred ever won from twenty ninth or

1042
00:48:57,467 --> 00:49:00,027
Speaker 26: lower on the grid, So there's a great precedent for

1043
00:49:00,027 --> 00:49:02,467
Speaker 26: this not happening, So maybe don't take too much of

1044
00:49:02,547 --> 00:49:05,507
Speaker 26: my word. What I will say is the fact that

1045
00:49:05,747 --> 00:49:07,467
Speaker 26: the way the call of works is because we have

1046
00:49:08,467 --> 00:49:14,067
Speaker 26: basically we have the cars between thirteenth and thirty position.

1047
00:49:14,147 --> 00:49:16,387
Speaker 26: They all qualify on the Saturday, and they go through

1048
00:49:16,427 --> 00:49:18,467
Speaker 26: to the race. On Sunday, they don't qualify again, but

1049
00:49:18,507 --> 00:49:21,787
Speaker 26: then we get the top twelve and the bottom, so

1050
00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:23,867
Speaker 26: thirty first to thirty four.

1051
00:49:23,787 --> 00:49:26,907
Speaker 22: Competing for the last entry on the grid.

1052
00:49:27,027 --> 00:49:28,947
Speaker 26: Now, the only reason I bring that up is to

1053
00:49:28,947 --> 00:49:30,867
Speaker 26: say that we don't normally see cars that are capable

1054
00:49:30,867 --> 00:49:31,427
Speaker 26: of winning.

1055
00:49:31,227 --> 00:49:33,147
Speaker 22: The race going to the back of the field.

1056
00:49:33,187 --> 00:49:35,827
Speaker 26: They're normally fast enough to qualify at least just on

1057
00:49:35,867 --> 00:49:38,347
Speaker 26: the Saturday and get through the grid. We often see

1058
00:49:38,347 --> 00:49:41,467
Speaker 26: really good cars kind of qualifying around between twenty and

1059
00:49:41,507 --> 00:49:43,227
Speaker 26: thirty if they've had a really bad weekend or they've

1060
00:49:43,227 --> 00:49:44,507
Speaker 26: made a mistake on the setup.

1061
00:49:44,587 --> 00:49:46,987
Speaker 22: You very rarely see a car as fast as those.

1062
00:49:47,107 --> 00:49:48,827
Speaker 22: Joseph Newgarden start at the back of the grid.

1063
00:49:48,907 --> 00:49:51,187
Speaker 26: So I don't remember the last time a car that

1064
00:49:51,307 --> 00:49:53,507
Speaker 26: was capable of being in that fast twelve shootout was

1065
00:49:53,547 --> 00:49:54,507
Speaker 26: put to the back of the grid.

1066
00:49:54,667 --> 00:49:55,827
Speaker 22: We've not seen it in a long time.

1067
00:49:55,867 --> 00:49:57,747
Speaker 26: And I think this president over the past few years

1068
00:49:57,987 --> 00:49:59,587
Speaker 26: for cars going to the back of the grid during

1069
00:49:59,587 --> 00:50:01,107
Speaker 26: the race and then being able to fight their way

1070
00:50:01,147 --> 00:50:03,547
Speaker 26: back forward with good strategy and good pit stops. And

1071
00:50:03,587 --> 00:50:05,627
Speaker 26: one thing jose Newgarden has on its side is the

1072
00:50:05,667 --> 00:50:08,067
Speaker 26: fact that he won Pitstop Challenge on Friday. His Penske

1073
00:50:08,187 --> 00:50:11,187
Speaker 26: crew have like a pitstop tournament in the in the

1074
00:50:11,227 --> 00:50:13,147
Speaker 26: pit lane on Friday. It's a big part of the

1075
00:50:13,147 --> 00:50:16,227
Speaker 26: event here at Indianapolis. And yeah, Joseph Nugarann's team won.

1076
00:50:16,307 --> 00:50:18,027
Speaker 26: So he's got everything on his side to be able

1077
00:50:18,067 --> 00:50:19,667
Speaker 26: to do this. If anyone's gonna be able to do

1078
00:50:19,667 --> 00:50:22,147
Speaker 26: it's gonna be him because his car in practice has

1079
00:50:22,187 --> 00:50:23,187
Speaker 26: just been absolutely phenomenal.

1080
00:50:23,227 --> 00:50:25,427
Speaker 22: I can't tell you how good his his car has looked.

1081
00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:27,587
Speaker 26: He's been, you know, reeling people in as if they've

1082
00:50:27,587 --> 00:50:29,547
Speaker 26: got magnets on the back of their car and overtaking

1083
00:50:29,587 --> 00:50:31,747
Speaker 26: them at ease in practice. So it's been, you know,

1084
00:50:31,907 --> 00:50:35,227
Speaker 26: really fantastic to watch, and it's such a great story.

1085
00:50:35,227 --> 00:50:36,667
Speaker 22: Everything all the stats.

1086
00:50:36,307 --> 00:50:38,027
Speaker 26: Tell you that Joseph New should not be able to

1087
00:50:38,107 --> 00:50:39,427
Speaker 26: be able to do this, and that he's going to

1088
00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:42,307
Speaker 26: fail miserably, but everything about the car says that that

1089
00:50:42,427 --> 00:50:44,107
Speaker 26: is an Indy five hundred winning car.

1090
00:50:44,187 --> 00:50:45,667
Speaker 22: So it's going to be fascinating to see him come

1091
00:50:45,707 --> 00:50:46,227
Speaker 22: through the field.

1092
00:50:46,427 --> 00:50:51,147
Speaker 3: All right, can't wait? Well on poll. Robert Schwartzman, rookie driver,

1093
00:50:51,507 --> 00:50:55,307
Speaker 3: rookie team HISS, first ever start on an oval of

1094
00:50:55,387 --> 00:50:58,467
Speaker 3: any kind and any racing series anywhere. Can you tell

1095
00:50:58,507 --> 00:50:59,587
Speaker 3: us about Robert Schwartzman.

1096
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:03,227
Speaker 26: Robert Schwartzman's a really interesting character. I've known him since

1097
00:51:03,227 --> 00:51:04,827
Speaker 26: he's about seventeen years old, and I can tell you

1098
00:51:04,867 --> 00:51:06,427
Speaker 26: he's not changed. He just talks a bit more that

1099
00:51:06,507 --> 00:51:09,027
Speaker 26: he used to do. But he's an absolutely fabulous character.

1100
00:51:09,307 --> 00:51:12,227
Speaker 26: Born in Israel, the first Israeli driver to compete in

1101
00:51:12,267 --> 00:51:14,867
Speaker 26: the Indy five hundred. Yeah, he's come to IndyCar for

1102
00:51:14,867 --> 00:51:16,427
Speaker 26: the first time this year as a rookie, as has

1103
00:51:16,427 --> 00:51:19,427
Speaker 26: his team Prema, which he won the Formula three Championship with,

1104
00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:22,547
Speaker 26: which is most of the European based championship that follows

1105
00:51:22,587 --> 00:51:24,827
Speaker 26: Formula One around. People might be familiar with that name

1106
00:51:24,827 --> 00:51:27,667
Speaker 26: if you if you follow motorsport, Prema an absolutely massive

1107
00:51:27,707 --> 00:51:30,507
Speaker 26: team in junior single seaters. A lot of the Formula

1108
00:51:30,547 --> 00:51:33,267
Speaker 26: One drivers you've see now, like Oscopiastri won a championship

1109
00:51:33,307 --> 00:51:35,907
Speaker 26: with Premo, So some really big names out there who've

1110
00:51:35,907 --> 00:51:37,307
Speaker 26: won championships with Premier before.

1111
00:51:37,347 --> 00:51:38,347
Speaker 22: And yeah, I.

1112
00:51:38,307 --> 00:51:40,827
Speaker 26: Think people would have give it less than zero chance

1113
00:51:40,907 --> 00:51:42,707
Speaker 26: of them being on pall for this Indy five hundred.

1114
00:51:42,747 --> 00:51:44,947
Speaker 26: But they've made some really shrewd signings. They've brought in

1115
00:51:44,987 --> 00:51:47,547
Speaker 26: some really clever technical people from other teams. They put

1116
00:51:47,587 --> 00:51:49,787
Speaker 26: together a really good package. They've really focused on this

1117
00:51:49,867 --> 00:51:52,707
Speaker 26: month and they really really focused on getting their qualifying

1118
00:51:52,747 --> 00:51:53,987
Speaker 26: card really really good, and.

1119
00:51:53,907 --> 00:51:55,107
Speaker 22: They've done a great job with Robert.

1120
00:51:55,107 --> 00:51:57,227
Speaker 26: But I've got to say, I can't remember the last

1121
00:51:57,227 --> 00:51:59,027
Speaker 26: time a rookie turned up at the speedway and was

1122
00:51:59,067 --> 00:52:00,827
Speaker 26: able to do the things that Robert Schwartzman has done.

1123
00:52:00,907 --> 00:52:03,747
Speaker 26: I've seen his steering trace, which is like the what

1124
00:52:03,907 --> 00:52:05,387
Speaker 26: we call it a trace. It looks like a graph,

1125
00:52:05,387 --> 00:52:07,867
Speaker 26: and it's basically the data of how the steering looks

1126
00:52:07,867 --> 00:52:10,147
Speaker 26: from the driver. So every time the driver puts some

1127
00:52:10,227 --> 00:52:12,187
Speaker 26: input into the steering wheel, it makes a line on

1128
00:52:12,187 --> 00:52:14,387
Speaker 26: this graph and you can see how much they're turning

1129
00:52:14,387 --> 00:52:16,747
Speaker 26: the wheel effectively. And his was all over the place

1130
00:52:16,787 --> 00:52:18,387
Speaker 26: like he was hanging onto that thing like it was

1131
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:21,187
Speaker 26: trying to kill him. And he did a fantastic job. Honestly,

1132
00:52:21,507 --> 00:52:23,587
Speaker 26: I can't tell you how difficult that is to do

1133
00:52:24,227 --> 00:52:26,467
Speaker 26: at the speedway. You know, we're talking about speeds of

1134
00:52:26,467 --> 00:52:28,347
Speaker 26: two hundred and forty two hundred and thirty, two hundred

1135
00:52:28,387 --> 00:52:30,507
Speaker 26: and twenty miles an hour, even in the corners. And

1136
00:52:30,587 --> 00:52:32,427
Speaker 26: this guy, you know, he just pulled off the most

1137
00:52:32,467 --> 00:52:34,667
Speaker 26: amazing full lap run and that last run he did

1138
00:52:34,707 --> 00:52:36,707
Speaker 26: for Paul was the first one he'd done all month,

1139
00:52:36,787 --> 00:52:39,867
Speaker 26: flat out. He didn't lift in the whole four lap run,

1140
00:52:39,947 --> 00:52:42,347
Speaker 26: so that's ten miles four laps for the qualifying run

1141
00:52:42,587 --> 00:52:44,507
Speaker 26: he didn't lift. You know, he went over two hundred

1142
00:52:44,547 --> 00:52:47,107
Speaker 26: and thirty nine miles an hour. And Yeah, for a

1143
00:52:47,187 --> 00:52:48,587
Speaker 26: rookie to be able to do that their first time

1144
00:52:48,627 --> 00:52:50,907
Speaker 26: at the speedway, I think that just tells you, you know,

1145
00:52:50,947 --> 00:52:52,427
Speaker 26: what a pretageous talent we're looking at here.

1146
00:52:52,587 --> 00:52:55,227
Speaker 3: Absolutely. We'll keep an eye on Robert Schwartzman tomorrow from

1147
00:52:55,227 --> 00:52:57,427
Speaker 3: Paul Or let's give to the keywaist our Man, sixth

1148
00:52:57,427 --> 00:53:00,347
Speaker 3: time Indy Car Champion Indy five hundred win of two

1149
00:53:00,347 --> 00:53:02,827
Speaker 3: thousand and night Scott Dixon. But are the old men

1150
00:53:02,867 --> 00:53:05,827
Speaker 3: of the field these days? Fourth on the grid, third

1151
00:53:05,907 --> 00:53:08,827
Speaker 3: last year. Watch old Scott Dixon's on the podium again.

1152
00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:11,387
Speaker 22: You called him an old man.

1153
00:53:11,387 --> 00:53:13,747
Speaker 26: He was accused of dyeing his hair by fellow driving

1154
00:53:14,787 --> 00:53:17,547
Speaker 26: during the during the preliminaries, so that was a good

1155
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:20,227
Speaker 26: bit of needling we've seen going on. Helio Cashinevers is

1156
00:53:20,267 --> 00:53:22,267
Speaker 26: what has been one of Scott Dixon's biggest rivals in

1157
00:53:22,307 --> 00:53:24,667
Speaker 26: his indiecar career. But they're actually working together this year

1158
00:53:24,707 --> 00:53:27,707
Speaker 26: through a technical tie up between two teams Meyer Shank

1159
00:53:27,787 --> 00:53:30,627
Speaker 26: Racing and Chip Ganassi Racing. Dixon obviously a long term

1160
00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:33,587
Speaker 26: Chip Ganassi racer. So yeah, they've had a really interesting month.

1161
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:35,067
Speaker 26: It's been a bit up and down, i think the most.

1162
00:53:35,107 --> 00:53:37,227
Speaker 26: For the most part, the race car it's really good,

1163
00:53:37,267 --> 00:53:39,227
Speaker 26: so I'm really excited for the race to see how

1164
00:53:39,227 --> 00:53:41,907
Speaker 26: the Gannasty cars and Scott Dixon do in the race

1165
00:53:41,947 --> 00:53:43,827
Speaker 26: obviously was a big clambor for him to win another

1166
00:53:43,867 --> 00:53:45,867
Speaker 26: Indy five hundred. You could argue he could have won

1167
00:53:45,907 --> 00:53:47,867
Speaker 26: four or five by now, and it's really, you know,

1168
00:53:47,947 --> 00:53:50,227
Speaker 26: a travesty really that he's not been able to get

1169
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,627
Speaker 26: another one over the line. You know, some of the

1170
00:53:52,627 --> 00:53:54,307
Speaker 26: listeners might remember a few years back when he had

1171
00:53:54,307 --> 00:53:56,267
Speaker 26: the pit lane speeding penalty where it was like zero

1172
00:53:56,267 --> 00:53:58,667
Speaker 26: point one miles an hour. That was the difference between

1173
00:53:58,707 --> 00:54:00,347
Speaker 26: him having a penalty or not, and he got that

1174
00:54:00,387 --> 00:54:01,747
Speaker 26: penalty and it really ruined his race.

1175
00:54:01,787 --> 00:54:04,947
Speaker 22: So, yeah, he's he didn't really have the car last year, Ganassi.

1176
00:54:05,347 --> 00:54:07,507
Speaker 26: They were strong and he he had a really good result,

1177
00:54:07,507 --> 00:54:09,747
Speaker 26: but yeah, they weren't really in contention to win at

1178
00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:10,147
Speaker 26: any point.

1179
00:54:10,187 --> 00:54:11,747
Speaker 22: And I think that's changed a little bit this year.

1180
00:54:11,787 --> 00:54:13,427
Speaker 26: I do think and actually have a car that could

1181
00:54:13,507 --> 00:54:16,227
Speaker 26: compete for the victory, and his teammate Alex Poulo is

1182
00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:18,747
Speaker 26: going to be right up his rear as well. He's

1183
00:54:18,827 --> 00:54:20,707
Speaker 26: won four of the first five races in the IndyCar

1184
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:22,827
Speaker 26: Championship this year and he even won a race at

1185
00:54:22,827 --> 00:54:25,227
Speaker 26: the Zoo with a toll toys, So that'll tell you

1186
00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:27,787
Speaker 26: that he can Basically he can win with anything right now,

1187
00:54:27,827 --> 00:54:30,947
Speaker 26: even a toll toys. So yeah, there's some fun going on.

1188
00:54:30,987 --> 00:54:33,187
Speaker 26: But Scott Dixon definitely definitely wants to watch for this

1189
00:54:33,267 --> 00:54:33,787
Speaker 26: race for sure.

1190
00:54:33,947 --> 00:54:34,147
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1191
00:54:34,147 --> 00:54:37,227
Speaker 3: The Scott McLaughlin crashed his primary car and a spectacular

1192
00:54:37,267 --> 00:54:39,467
Speaker 3: flipping incident and practiced last weekend. He'll be in his

1193
00:54:39,547 --> 00:54:42,267
Speaker 3: backup car of course, as Team Pinskey teammates New Garden

1194
00:54:42,307 --> 00:54:44,667
Speaker 3: Power Beck of the grid. So it's been a disrapted

1195
00:54:44,707 --> 00:54:48,667
Speaker 3: week for Team Pinskey. What do you predict for Scotty McLoughlin.

1196
00:54:49,467 --> 00:54:50,627
Speaker 22: Well, that'd be really interesting.

1197
00:54:50,747 --> 00:54:52,907
Speaker 26: Do you know what if if he hadn't crossed the

1198
00:54:52,907 --> 00:54:54,987
Speaker 26: car in practice before qualifying, I think he would have

1199
00:54:55,027 --> 00:54:56,827
Speaker 26: been on pole position again as he was last year,

1200
00:54:56,987 --> 00:54:58,427
Speaker 26: and I think we'd been talking about him being one

1201
00:54:58,427 --> 00:54:58,947
Speaker 26: of the favorites.

1202
00:54:58,987 --> 00:55:00,427
Speaker 22: But because he's gone to this backup car.

1203
00:55:01,027 --> 00:55:03,107
Speaker 26: It's very, very difficult when you go to a backup

1204
00:55:03,147 --> 00:55:05,827
Speaker 26: car because if you think about the development of a car,

1205
00:55:06,147 --> 00:55:08,107
Speaker 26: they basically start the development of the car the day

1206
00:55:08,147 --> 00:55:10,587
Speaker 26: after the previous Indy five hundred, So you know, Penskey

1207
00:55:10,627 --> 00:55:12,467
Speaker 26: had been working on Scotty max car since, you know,

1208
00:55:12,467 --> 00:55:14,987
Speaker 26: the day after last year's Indy five hundred, and they

1209
00:55:15,307 --> 00:55:16,867
Speaker 26: massage these cars to within an.

1210
00:55:16,787 --> 00:55:17,427
Speaker 22: Inch of their life.

1211
00:55:17,427 --> 00:55:19,187
Speaker 26: We think about their air has to touch all of

1212
00:55:19,187 --> 00:55:20,507
Speaker 26: the parts of the car. They have to make sure

1213
00:55:20,547 --> 00:55:23,147
Speaker 26: every single part's perfect. And over the years they also

1214
00:55:23,667 --> 00:55:26,347
Speaker 26: they get favorite parts. So when they run these parts

1215
00:55:26,387 --> 00:55:28,067
Speaker 26: on the car, they work out which parts are the

1216
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:30,587
Speaker 26: best for whatever reason, and you know, the development parts

1217
00:55:30,627 --> 00:55:32,907
Speaker 26: and things like that. And if you have a big crash,

1218
00:55:32,907 --> 00:55:34,547
Speaker 26: you can take some of those parts out of circulation.

1219
00:55:34,627 --> 00:55:36,347
Speaker 26: If you lose them parts, it can cost you speed

1220
00:55:36,547 --> 00:55:39,107
Speaker 26: and make you slower. So the big question is how

1221
00:55:39,147 --> 00:55:40,947
Speaker 26: good is Scott mcgogwain's car going to be. We saw

1222
00:55:40,947 --> 00:55:42,507
Speaker 26: it in practice and he looks comfortable.

1223
00:55:42,507 --> 00:55:45,387
Speaker 22: In practice. He seemed happy. But obviously a lot of

1224
00:55:45,387 --> 00:55:46,027
Speaker 22: the drivers he's.

1225
00:55:45,947 --> 00:55:48,147
Speaker 26: Coming up against have spent a whole month, you know,

1226
00:55:48,187 --> 00:55:50,587
Speaker 26: getting their car into a perfect window, and he's not

1227
00:55:50,627 --> 00:55:52,667
Speaker 26: been able to do that because he's obviously just got

1228
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:55,427
Speaker 26: into this car. So there's a lot of uncertainty of

1229
00:55:55,507 --> 00:55:57,507
Speaker 26: how we'll do in the race. But the good news is,

1230
00:55:57,587 --> 00:56:00,147
Speaker 26: unlike his teammates, he's not lost any positions because he

1231
00:56:00,227 --> 00:56:03,387
Speaker 26: wasn't found to have this rear crash structure in breach

1232
00:56:03,427 --> 00:56:06,027
Speaker 26: of the regulations, so he can actually start tenth. So

1233
00:56:06,387 --> 00:56:08,747
Speaker 26: as you mentioned, yeah, he's coming from a good starting spot.

1234
00:56:08,947 --> 00:56:10,987
Speaker 26: He's in the top ten, he's within striking distance of

1235
00:56:11,027 --> 00:56:12,827
Speaker 26: the front, so I definitely keep an eye on him, all.

1236
00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:14,587
Speaker 3: Right, MICUs sam Strong. The other key were he qushed

1237
00:56:14,587 --> 00:56:17,907
Speaker 3: in qualifying two thirtieth on the thirty three card for

1238
00:56:17,947 --> 00:56:21,227
Speaker 3: MICUs sam Strong Jeck just to finish, you know, apart

1239
00:56:21,267 --> 00:56:24,147
Speaker 3: from driving fast and staying out of trouble, what are

1240
00:56:24,147 --> 00:56:27,907
Speaker 3: the real keys to winning the n D five hundred.

1241
00:56:28,587 --> 00:56:30,107
Speaker 22: The pit stops are the big one. You know, you're

1242
00:56:30,107 --> 00:56:31,147
Speaker 22: looking at maybe five.

1243
00:56:31,067 --> 00:56:33,427
Speaker 26: Six, seven, eight pit stops, depending on how many cautions

1244
00:56:33,427 --> 00:56:36,187
Speaker 26: we have, and you know, every single one of those stops,

1245
00:56:36,227 --> 00:56:37,987
Speaker 26: even just the tenth of a second, can be the

1246
00:56:38,027 --> 00:56:40,707
Speaker 26: difference between you being first or tenth. So, you know,

1247
00:56:40,707 --> 00:56:44,027
Speaker 26: if we think about the real areas, how I like

1248
00:56:44,067 --> 00:56:45,187
Speaker 26: to put it is, if you kind of think of

1249
00:56:45,187 --> 00:56:48,067
Speaker 26: a car driving through the field or making overtakes, it's

1250
00:56:48,107 --> 00:56:50,107
Speaker 26: really difficult for a driver to make up sort of

1251
00:56:50,587 --> 00:56:52,267
Speaker 26: four or five seconds on the track.

1252
00:56:52,347 --> 00:56:54,027
Speaker 22: You know that they're also close together.

1253
00:56:54,267 --> 00:56:55,867
Speaker 26: That doesn't happen very often, but in a pit lane

1254
00:56:55,907 --> 00:56:57,547
Speaker 26: it's really easy for that to happen if someone drops

1255
00:56:57,547 --> 00:56:59,187
Speaker 26: a wheel notup when they're changing the wheel, or if

1256
00:56:59,227 --> 00:57:01,467
Speaker 26: they struggle to get a wheel off, or if the

1257
00:57:01,587 --> 00:57:03,787
Speaker 26: fudel hose won't go into the car properly. You know,

1258
00:57:03,867 --> 00:57:05,987
Speaker 26: all of these problems can add up to two seconds

1259
00:57:05,987 --> 00:57:07,787
Speaker 26: and ever very difficult to pull back on the track.

1260
00:57:07,867 --> 00:57:09,747
Speaker 26: So I definitely keep an eye on the pit stops

1261
00:57:09,747 --> 00:57:12,507
Speaker 26: and watching the strategy that all the teams are using.

1262
00:57:12,587 --> 00:57:13,707
Speaker 26: The other thing I think is going to be really

1263
00:57:13,707 --> 00:57:15,747
Speaker 26: interesting is we've got the hybrid U this year. It's

1264
00:57:15,747 --> 00:57:19,027
Speaker 26: like an extra power boost for the cars, but it's

1265
00:57:19,027 --> 00:57:20,987
Speaker 26: also made them heavier. So if you think about when

1266
00:57:21,027 --> 00:57:23,147
Speaker 26: you make a car heavier, it's going to work the

1267
00:57:23,187 --> 00:57:23,627
Speaker 26: tires more.

1268
00:57:23,667 --> 00:57:24,867
Speaker 22: It's going to be harder on its tires.

1269
00:57:24,867 --> 00:57:26,867
Speaker 26: So when we get towards the end of a stint

1270
00:57:26,907 --> 00:57:30,267
Speaker 26: where the cars are sort of they're lighter, but they

1271
00:57:30,307 --> 00:57:33,147
Speaker 26: are you know, they've worn their tires down there, there's

1272
00:57:33,147 --> 00:57:35,267
Speaker 26: no tread on the tire and they're really struggling to

1273
00:57:35,347 --> 00:57:37,267
Speaker 26: be moving around at sort of two hundred and fifteen

1274
00:57:37,267 --> 00:57:39,587
Speaker 26: two hundred and twenty miles an hour, and it's going

1275
00:57:39,627 --> 00:57:40,787
Speaker 26: to be really hard to hold onto them.

1276
00:57:40,787 --> 00:57:42,227
Speaker 22: So if anyone can find an advantage there.

1277
00:57:42,227 --> 00:57:44,067
Speaker 26: If anyone's got a car that's a little bit easier

1278
00:57:44,107 --> 00:57:45,987
Speaker 26: on the tires than others, they're going to have a

1279
00:57:45,987 --> 00:57:47,947
Speaker 26: massive advantage. So there's some of the things that you

1280
00:57:47,987 --> 00:57:50,947
Speaker 26: didn't mention that I I would definitely keep an eye on. Yeah,

1281
00:57:50,987 --> 00:57:53,027
Speaker 26: it's going to be a fascinating spectacle, and we've got

1282
00:57:53,027 --> 00:57:54,227
Speaker 26: to sell out crowd. It's going to be nearly throw

1283
00:57:54,267 --> 00:57:56,907
Speaker 26: underd and fifty thousand people on race day, so there's

1284
00:57:56,907 --> 00:57:58,187
Speaker 26: going to be a lot of eyes on this race.

1285
00:57:58,227 --> 00:58:00,547
Speaker 26: And there's so many good cars spread out all across

1286
00:58:00,547 --> 00:58:02,067
Speaker 26: the field that it's going to be fascinating to watch.

1287
00:58:02,187 --> 00:58:05,387
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, Jack, you've given us wonderful inside I've written

1288
00:58:05,427 --> 00:58:08,307
Speaker 3: down here Joseph, So I'm going to watch him tomorrow

1289
00:58:08,307 --> 00:58:10,947
Speaker 3: and think of you as he weaves his way through

1290
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Speaker 3: the field and maybe creates history of the brickyard. But

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Speaker 3: as always, Jack, thanks for joining us across New Zealand

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00:58:16,787 --> 00:58:18,347
Speaker 3: with you with your brilliant expertise.

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00:58:19,147 --> 00:58:20,507
Speaker 22: Thanks for ms it's been great to be back.

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00:58:20,507 --> 00:58:23,667
Speaker 3: Good on you, Jack. Thanks indeed. Jack Benyon there motorsport journalist.

1295
00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:26,747
Speaker 3: He's in Indianapolis for the NDY five hundred three hundred

1296
00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:30,947
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand people turn up to watch this on

1297
00:58:30,987 --> 00:58:35,027
Speaker 3: an oval track. Incredible. I'm quite keen to pick your

1298
00:58:35,027 --> 00:58:37,467
Speaker 3: brains on this. The Penske thing's so interesting to me

1299
00:58:38,467 --> 00:58:42,827
Speaker 3: with what's happened there, particularly given the fact that they

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00:58:43,307 --> 00:58:45,507
Speaker 3: if you missed the start of the chat, what's basically

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00:58:45,587 --> 00:58:48,547
Speaker 3: happened is that Team Penske, which is Scott McLoughlin's team,

1302
00:58:49,107 --> 00:58:51,267
Speaker 3: have been in the headlines for all the wrong reasons.

1303
00:58:51,507 --> 00:58:54,747
Speaker 3: Three staffers have been sacked for a rules in fraction

1304
00:58:55,547 --> 00:59:00,907
Speaker 3: over unapproved modifications. Joseph Newgarden and Will Power, who are

1305
00:59:01,187 --> 00:59:04,507
Speaker 3: Scott mcglocklin's teammates at Penske, have been dumped to the

1306
00:59:04,547 --> 00:59:09,227
Speaker 3: back of the grid. Now McLaughlin his car wasn't found

1307
00:59:09,267 --> 00:59:14,067
Speaker 3: to have undergone the same illegal modification, so he's okay.

1308
00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:17,227
Speaker 3: He's tenth on the grid, so it hasn't affected him.

1309
00:59:17,227 --> 00:59:21,387
Speaker 3: But it has in some way because he's got a

1310
00:59:21,427 --> 00:59:25,147
Speaker 3: new strategist and a new engineer. As you heard Jack say,

1311
00:59:25,227 --> 00:59:28,707
Speaker 3: those who have been let go from the team, fired

1312
00:59:28,747 --> 00:59:31,947
Speaker 3: from the team had a big role to play on

1313
00:59:32,107 --> 00:59:35,187
Speaker 3: race day. McLaughlin says he feels for them, but he'll

1314
00:59:35,227 --> 00:59:35,947
Speaker 3: run his own race.

1315
00:59:36,027 --> 00:59:38,467
Speaker 27: I know we've got fast cars, but everyone feels that

1316
00:59:38,547 --> 00:59:39,107
Speaker 27: way as well.

1317
00:59:39,227 --> 00:59:39,627
Speaker 13: I don't know.

1318
00:59:40,187 --> 00:59:41,587
Speaker 22: I mean, I'm not for me.

1319
00:59:41,667 --> 00:59:44,067
Speaker 27: I'm not worried about their race, focused on my own,

1320
00:59:44,347 --> 00:59:46,027
Speaker 27: but we know what we need to do to sort

1321
00:59:46,067 --> 00:59:47,307
Speaker 27: of just keep ourselves in the game.

1322
00:59:47,507 --> 00:59:50,187
Speaker 3: So he's trying to stay calm. The bit that interests

1323
00:59:50,187 --> 00:59:53,827
Speaker 3: me is that Joseph Neugarten won it last year with

1324
00:59:54,467 --> 00:59:58,827
Speaker 3: from the sounds of things, the same car with presumably

1325
00:59:58,867 --> 01:00:03,147
Speaker 3: the same modifications done to it wasn't picked up last year.

1326
01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:06,627
Speaker 3: They're not going to change the result, but it's a

1327
01:00:06,667 --> 01:00:09,867
Speaker 3: really interesting little layer to this. They've got to start

1328
01:00:09,907 --> 01:00:11,587
Speaker 3: at the back of the field, new garden in power

1329
01:00:11,587 --> 01:00:16,907
Speaker 3: now and he's more from Scott McLaughlin on his new

1330
01:00:16,987 --> 01:00:18,267
Speaker 3: strategist and engineer.

1331
01:00:18,467 --> 01:00:22,147
Speaker 27: Those three guys are friends of mine and have done

1332
01:00:22,507 --> 01:00:25,827
Speaker 27: a tremendous amount in my career to get me to

1333
01:00:25,867 --> 01:00:29,307
Speaker 27: this point. Is a sadness from my perspective, but at

1334
01:00:29,347 --> 01:00:31,387
Speaker 27: the end of the day, you know, I drive for

1335
01:00:31,467 --> 01:00:31,947
Speaker 27: Roger Penske.

1336
01:00:32,187 --> 01:00:33,867
Speaker 13: I respect the decision.

1337
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:37,947
Speaker 3: And Scott Dixon the other Scott looking to add a

1338
01:00:38,067 --> 01:00:41,587
Speaker 3: second Indianapolis five hundred to his CV. He won it

1339
01:00:41,627 --> 01:00:43,747
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight men. Is that when it

1340
01:00:43,907 --> 01:00:47,867
Speaker 3: was seventeen years ago that he won that Indy five hundred.

1341
01:00:47,907 --> 01:00:51,547
Speaker 3: I remember it so vividly, Scott Dixon winning that at

1342
01:00:51,547 --> 01:00:55,507
Speaker 3: the Brickout two thousand and eight. He'll start from the

1343
01:00:55,507 --> 01:00:57,907
Speaker 3: second row of the grid, fourth on the grid. Got

1344
01:00:57,907 --> 01:01:01,267
Speaker 3: to be a chance. Scott Dixon says he feels comfortable

1345
01:01:01,307 --> 01:01:03,147
Speaker 3: with where he is at head of the race.

1346
01:01:03,307 --> 01:01:05,987
Speaker 22: Never the same and the competition always changes as well.

1347
01:01:06,627 --> 01:01:08,667
Speaker 18: You know, we're a in a lot better place this year,

1348
01:01:08,707 --> 01:01:12,627
Speaker 18: So looking forward to having a real good crackeut at

1349
01:01:11,867 --> 01:01:13,187
Speaker 18: this Sunday.

1350
01:01:13,427 --> 01:01:17,067
Speaker 3: Any Indianapolis five hundred officionados be keen to get your

1351
01:01:17,387 --> 01:01:20,107
Speaker 3: expertise on this. Jack just said, then he can see

1352
01:01:20,187 --> 01:01:22,507
Speaker 3: Joseph Neugarten going from the back of the grid to

1353
01:01:22,547 --> 01:01:26,227
Speaker 3: win it. I mean that would be quite incredible. I

1354
01:01:26,267 --> 01:01:29,707
Speaker 3: guess the race is long enough five hundred miles for

1355
01:01:29,827 --> 01:01:32,987
Speaker 3: him to do that if he's skillful enough to weave

1356
01:01:33,027 --> 01:01:35,747
Speaker 3: his way from the back. Plenty of passing opportunities. What

1357
01:01:35,787 --> 01:01:38,707
Speaker 3: do you say eight pit stops? So factor those in

1358
01:01:39,307 --> 01:01:42,107
Speaker 3: who knows keen to chat to your motorsport fans and

1359
01:01:42,147 --> 01:01:44,987
Speaker 3: also the other part of the motorsport weekend of course

1360
01:01:45,067 --> 01:01:51,627
Speaker 3: is Liam Lawson. He's achieved his best qualifying effort of

1361
01:01:51,667 --> 01:01:54,507
Speaker 3: the season. Ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix tomorrow morning,

1362
01:01:54,827 --> 01:01:58,387
Speaker 3: he'll be ninth. After his first participation in the third

1363
01:01:58,387 --> 01:02:02,787
Speaker 3: and final phase of qualifying for twenty twenty five, Isaac

1364
01:02:02,867 --> 01:02:07,427
Speaker 3: Hadjer clocked the sixth fastest time. He will start in fifth.

1365
01:02:07,947 --> 01:02:11,867
Speaker 3: So Liam Lawson knows he's he's got a bit of

1366
01:02:11,867 --> 01:02:13,427
Speaker 3: work to do if he's get to get up any

1367
01:02:13,507 --> 01:02:14,267
Speaker 3: higher than ninth.

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01:02:14,387 --> 01:02:15,707
Speaker 8: To be honest, I think we missed a little bit

1369
01:02:15,707 --> 01:02:17,747
Speaker 8: in quality, So that's a bit of a shame. We've

1370
01:02:17,747 --> 01:02:20,067
Speaker 8: got traffic as well, but this place is always follow

1371
01:02:20,107 --> 01:02:21,987
Speaker 8: that so to do as that we missed out a

1372
01:02:22,027 --> 01:02:23,787
Speaker 8: little bit, but strong quality for the team.

1373
01:02:23,867 --> 01:02:26,827
Speaker 3: All right, Let's let's talk some motorsport R eight hundred

1374
01:02:26,867 --> 01:02:28,827
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty for those of you who know

1375
01:02:28,867 --> 01:02:32,187
Speaker 3: the ND five hundred, How easy or not? We'll not easy,

1376
01:02:32,227 --> 01:02:34,467
Speaker 3: but how challenging or not is it to weave your

1377
01:02:34,507 --> 01:02:38,707
Speaker 3: way through the field. Could Newgarden and or Power find

1378
01:02:38,747 --> 01:02:40,907
Speaker 3: themselves up in the top half or even the top ten?

1379
01:02:41,307 --> 01:02:43,667
Speaker 3: Scott Dixon fourth on the grid sounds good? Could he

1380
01:02:43,707 --> 01:02:47,787
Speaker 3: do it again? Seventeen years on? And Liam Lawson ninth

1381
01:02:47,867 --> 01:02:50,307
Speaker 3: at the Monaco Grand Prix. I'll repeat what I what

1382
01:02:50,347 --> 01:02:53,507
Speaker 3: I was sent before midday, which was that the Monaco

1383
01:02:53,747 --> 01:02:58,507
Speaker 3: track is basically the hardest track in the world to

1384
01:02:58,667 --> 01:03:02,507
Speaker 3: overtake on. So if you qualify ninth, you start ninth

1385
01:03:02,547 --> 01:03:04,747
Speaker 3: on the grid, then you have to be in with

1386
01:03:04,827 --> 01:03:08,467
Speaker 3: a pretty good shot of retaining that position. If it's

1387
01:03:08,547 --> 01:03:12,107
Speaker 3: very hard to overtake, then don't make any mistakes. Easier

1388
01:03:12,107 --> 01:03:15,387
Speaker 3: said than done, and you should finish in the points

1389
01:03:16,227 --> 01:03:19,867
Speaker 3: one eight hundred eighty ten eighty Back Talking Motorsport after.

1390
01:03:19,627 --> 01:03:26,907
Speaker 1: This crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Tame and GJ. Gunderholmes,

1391
01:03:27,107 --> 01:03:29,507
Speaker 1: New Zealand's was Trusted home Builder News.

1392
01:03:29,307 --> 01:03:33,587
Speaker 3: Talks twenty nine Away from to Talking Motorsport, Ay five

1393
01:03:33,667 --> 01:03:37,107
Speaker 3: hundred and the Monaco Grand Prix. Gooday bevn Yeah.

1394
01:03:37,387 --> 01:03:40,467
Speaker 18: Good Jason. A couple of things. Yeah. I think that

1395
01:03:40,587 --> 01:03:44,387
Speaker 18: the reason why Pinsky have been and to be honest,

1396
01:03:44,467 --> 01:03:49,307
Speaker 18: that the management have kind of resigned is that they've

1397
01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:51,307
Speaker 18: done it before. I reckon they've probably done it as

1398
01:03:51,307 --> 01:03:53,427
Speaker 18: you mentioned, you were totally correct, but not even just

1399
01:03:53,547 --> 01:03:56,947
Speaker 18: last year, but even probably the year before. And they've

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01:03:56,987 --> 01:04:01,427
Speaker 18: got camera footage of that modification, and so I think

1401
01:04:01,427 --> 01:04:03,307
Speaker 18: that's why they've come down so hard on them.

1402
01:04:04,707 --> 01:04:08,587
Speaker 3: So they, yeah, they haven't walked back as I mean,

1403
01:04:08,787 --> 01:04:11,267
Speaker 3: whether that's not possible. I presume they could have just

1404
01:04:11,307 --> 01:04:14,267
Speaker 3: gone back and said, well, put it this way, Bevan,

1405
01:04:14,307 --> 01:04:16,867
Speaker 3: what you've just said. If they if their car last

1406
01:04:16,947 --> 01:04:19,827
Speaker 3: year was identical to this year, and this year's car

1407
01:04:19,867 --> 01:04:22,827
Speaker 3: is illegal, then surely last year's car was illegal.

1408
01:04:23,667 --> 01:04:25,787
Speaker 18: Well that's the thing. That's that's the point. I think

1409
01:04:25,867 --> 01:04:28,107
Speaker 18: that maybe they've kind of ended up with egg on

1410
01:04:28,147 --> 01:04:30,547
Speaker 18: their face a little bit. But I mean the people

1411
01:04:30,587 --> 01:04:33,467
Speaker 18: that sort of investigate and go, oh, why didn't we

1412
01:04:33,507 --> 01:04:36,827
Speaker 18: pick it up because we've just we've done some investigation

1413
01:04:36,987 --> 01:04:39,947
Speaker 18: and they've actually been getting away away with it for

1414
01:04:39,987 --> 01:04:44,547
Speaker 18: a little while. But they can't retrospectively, you know, penalize them.

1415
01:04:44,547 --> 01:04:46,547
Speaker 18: I suppose it's kind of like in some ways like

1416
01:04:48,747 --> 01:04:51,547
Speaker 18: Melbourne Storm, you know when they got stripped of those

1417
01:04:51,707 --> 01:04:54,747
Speaker 18: premierships retrospectively, But in this case, they're not going to

1418
01:04:54,787 --> 01:04:56,507
Speaker 18: do this. They're not going to do it. So I

1419
01:04:56,507 --> 01:04:59,667
Speaker 18: think they kind of just thought, oh and and just

1420
01:04:59,707 --> 01:05:04,387
Speaker 18: the fact that the team management, the top people have

1421
01:05:04,547 --> 01:05:07,427
Speaker 18: just run for the hills. I think they're a little

1422
01:05:07,427 --> 01:05:07,867
Speaker 18: bit worried.

1423
01:05:08,707 --> 01:05:10,867
Speaker 3: The interesting said there's any more fallout because it will

1424
01:05:10,867 --> 01:05:14,147
Speaker 3: be ongoing. But so new Garden and Power will race

1425
01:05:14,307 --> 01:05:17,547
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. And obviously, even though they're at the back

1426
01:05:17,587 --> 01:05:19,867
Speaker 3: of the field, their lap times are way way quicker

1427
01:05:19,907 --> 01:05:23,027
Speaker 3: than normal drivers who are at the back of the field.

1428
01:05:23,827 --> 01:05:26,467
Speaker 3: What chance do you give them of weaving their way

1429
01:05:26,507 --> 01:05:29,067
Speaker 3: through and getting close to the front.

1430
01:05:30,227 --> 01:05:33,627
Speaker 18: Well, it's interesting that I've never listened to that person

1431
01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:34,107
Speaker 18: you had on.

1432
01:05:34,107 --> 01:05:36,707
Speaker 3: Before, ye Jack Benyon.

1433
01:05:36,787 --> 01:05:41,627
Speaker 18: Yeah, Jack, that was incredible. I've actually never heard a

1434
01:05:41,787 --> 01:05:48,427
Speaker 18: person commentation about motor sport like that. He's incredible. Yeah,

1435
01:05:48,467 --> 01:05:50,707
Speaker 18: I was just I was like on the edge of

1436
01:05:50,707 --> 01:05:52,947
Speaker 18: my seat. He made it, and he talks for a

1437
01:05:53,027 --> 01:05:55,267
Speaker 18: million miles an hour, but everything he says is so

1438
01:05:55,387 --> 01:05:58,107
Speaker 18: relevant to So he was saying he reckons he's going

1439
01:05:58,187 --> 01:05:58,907
Speaker 18: to win, right.

1440
01:05:59,227 --> 01:06:03,387
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. And he's like it's bold, but you're right.

1441
01:06:03,467 --> 01:06:05,907
Speaker 3: I mean jet, Like, if I'd said it, you'd be like,

1442
01:06:05,947 --> 01:06:08,227
Speaker 3: you're right, But he said, and he knows a lot

1443
01:06:08,227 --> 01:06:11,307
Speaker 3: about it. Now, I'm interested to see if Joseph Newgarten

1444
01:06:11,347 --> 01:06:12,387
Speaker 3: can actually do it.

1445
01:06:12,987 --> 01:06:14,827
Speaker 18: Well, maybe he's on, Maybe he's getting a little bit

1446
01:06:14,867 --> 01:06:17,427
Speaker 18: of a you know, he says that, but I mean, yeah, well,

1447
01:06:17,467 --> 01:06:19,307
Speaker 18: look at you, the fastest car like, I mean, you're

1448
01:06:19,307 --> 01:06:22,147
Speaker 18: just gonna zip zip zip, And but just so quick

1449
01:06:22,187 --> 01:06:22,907
Speaker 18: on what do you think about?

1450
01:06:22,907 --> 01:06:23,187
Speaker 10: Liam?

1451
01:06:23,307 --> 01:06:26,707
Speaker 18: He's there? But then you say, Monico, how do you

1452
01:06:26,787 --> 01:06:27,307
Speaker 18: pass there?

1453
01:06:27,507 --> 01:06:30,547
Speaker 3: Well, that that and that's it. You just can't. And

1454
01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:32,827
Speaker 3: you might have heard me say before as well, because

1455
01:06:32,867 --> 01:06:36,387
Speaker 3: it's such a hard track to pass on. They've eded

1456
01:06:36,387 --> 01:06:38,547
Speaker 3: in and I'll read this here. You have to do

1457
01:06:38,587 --> 01:06:41,587
Speaker 3: a second pit stop and use a third different tire

1458
01:06:41,667 --> 01:06:43,987
Speaker 3: compound as a means of trying to make it a

1459
01:06:43,987 --> 01:06:47,107
Speaker 3: bit more competitive, because otherwise, I mean, if if the

1460
01:06:47,147 --> 01:06:50,147
Speaker 3: starting grid is the finishing order, then there's not too

1461
01:06:50,187 --> 01:06:52,707
Speaker 3: much to get excited about. Probably, So let's hope Liam,

1462
01:06:52,827 --> 01:06:55,227
Speaker 3: I mean, let's have it plays in Lilliam's hands. He

1463
01:06:55,267 --> 01:06:57,107
Speaker 3: stays out of trouble and finishes ninth.

1464
01:06:58,427 --> 01:07:00,347
Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly, And just quickly on the on the game

1465
01:07:00,427 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 18: last night, I thought the ball did Yeah. I heard

1466
01:07:04,027 --> 01:07:06,787
Speaker 18: what you were saying about that alternative can angled that

1467
01:07:06,827 --> 01:07:09,227
Speaker 18: somebody sent you. I thought, yeah, I thought it was

1468
01:07:10,147 --> 01:07:13,147
Speaker 18: I thought it was out. But I was just wondering,

1469
01:07:13,187 --> 01:07:15,787
Speaker 18: have you ever asked to see whether Anna Mowbray would

1470
01:07:15,867 --> 01:07:17,427
Speaker 18: would come on the show and have a chat.

1471
01:07:17,987 --> 01:07:21,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's a good shout and and I'm

1472
01:07:21,627 --> 01:07:25,347
Speaker 3: I'm almost certain she would. She's a she's a pretty exuberant,

1473
01:07:25,427 --> 01:07:28,467
Speaker 3: vivacious character. And I'm obrak maybe her and Ellie Williams.

1474
01:07:28,547 --> 01:07:29,827
Speaker 3: And I was going to say for an hour might

1475
01:07:29,867 --> 01:07:30,547
Speaker 3: need a bit longer.

1476
01:07:30,987 --> 01:07:33,107
Speaker 18: They might apply there, they might apply their helicopter.

1477
01:07:34,147 --> 01:07:34,587
Speaker 9: They might.

1478
01:07:34,747 --> 01:07:36,587
Speaker 3: We'll get that. We'll get the landing pad on the

1479
01:07:36,667 --> 01:07:39,947
Speaker 3: roof of ZMB ready for them. Bib oh, good, good,

1480
01:07:39,987 --> 01:07:41,827
Speaker 3: good to talk to you, tiny you too, mate, Take

1481
01:07:41,867 --> 01:07:44,027
Speaker 3: it easy. One hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is our number.

1482
01:07:45,507 --> 01:07:50,387
Speaker 3: Let's go to Tim Tim Hi very good term and

1483
01:07:50,507 --> 01:07:53,547
Speaker 3: D five hundred mate, what what are you thinking? I

1484
01:07:53,747 --> 01:07:54,427
Speaker 3: we can.

1485
01:07:56,067 --> 01:08:00,507
Speaker 28: Scotty went still, we'll still win a curses car still

1486
01:08:00,507 --> 01:08:02,547
Speaker 28: but he's but he'll still won it anyway.

1487
01:08:02,667 --> 01:08:05,707
Speaker 3: You've got McLaughlin winning it. So it's it's his backup car.

1488
01:08:05,747 --> 01:08:08,747
Speaker 3: As you know, he's tenth on the grid. So and

1489
01:08:08,747 --> 01:08:10,867
Speaker 3: he was he was on pole last year, wasn't he

1490
01:08:10,947 --> 01:08:14,347
Speaker 3: And he finished off the podium from memory. So you reckon,

1491
01:08:14,387 --> 01:08:16,307
Speaker 3: he can you reckon, he can weave his way from

1492
01:08:16,347 --> 01:08:17,587
Speaker 3: tenth to first.

1493
01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:20,627
Speaker 28: Yep, yeah, I can.

1494
01:08:21,107 --> 01:08:23,787
Speaker 3: All right, Well I'll ask you the question about Joseph Newgarden.

1495
01:08:23,947 --> 01:08:26,387
Speaker 3: Can a guy weave from thirty second to first?

1496
01:08:27,547 --> 01:08:27,787
Speaker 18: Yes?

1497
01:08:28,347 --> 01:08:31,107
Speaker 3: Can give me incredible to watch?

1498
01:08:31,907 --> 01:08:34,907
Speaker 28: Yeah, piney, I see you know that race is not

1499
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Speaker 28: at four forty five at two o'clock. It is that

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Speaker 28: two o'clock, isn't Yeah, you can make it up time.

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01:08:41,467 --> 01:08:44,067
Speaker 3: All right mate, Well I'll give myself a smack on

1502
01:08:44,107 --> 01:08:45,707
Speaker 3: the hand and set my alarm for a couple of

1503
01:08:45,707 --> 01:08:49,827
Speaker 3: hours earlier. Good thing you're here ten otherwise we ordered mister. Yes,

1504
01:08:50,747 --> 01:08:53,827
Speaker 3: good onion, mate, thanks for calling in. Really appreciate it.

1505
01:08:54,147 --> 01:08:57,907
Speaker 3: Glenn Monico Grand Prix. Liam Lawson's ninth on the grid.

1506
01:08:57,947 --> 01:08:58,907
Speaker 3: Does he finish ninth?

1507
01:09:00,467 --> 01:09:00,787
Speaker 26: Well?

1508
01:09:00,987 --> 01:09:03,107
Speaker 29: I think it all comes down to what everyone does

1509
01:09:03,147 --> 01:09:07,627
Speaker 29: for the two stop strategy, because if that's the noise

1510
01:09:07,667 --> 01:09:10,027
Speaker 29: about putting on after that one.

1511
01:09:11,387 --> 01:09:12,507
Speaker 18: Plays out, then.

1512
01:09:13,307 --> 01:09:15,787
Speaker 29: It could anything to happen in that midfield, because you

1513
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:19,307
Speaker 29: could have some people going out on scrubsofts not worrying

1514
01:09:19,347 --> 01:09:23,187
Speaker 29: about them. That first lap is not at full race speed.

1515
01:09:23,267 --> 01:09:26,587
Speaker 29: Everyone's still bunched up. Open up a whole clear run

1516
01:09:26,867 --> 01:09:29,427
Speaker 29: of space. Put the foot down on some slick cards

1517
01:09:30,187 --> 01:09:32,867
Speaker 29: and there's two or three seconds, so two or three

1518
01:09:32,907 --> 01:09:36,067
Speaker 29: seconds at that point in the race and change a

1519
01:09:36,067 --> 01:09:39,267
Speaker 29: lot of places. So while you can't overtake on the track,

1520
01:09:39,427 --> 01:09:41,667
Speaker 29: I think it's going to be really exciting to see

1521
01:09:41,667 --> 01:09:42,987
Speaker 29: how this jigsaw plays out.

1522
01:09:43,707 --> 01:09:45,707
Speaker 3: What have you made of Liam Lawson in general terms?

1523
01:09:45,827 --> 01:09:49,227
Speaker 3: Clean It feels as though something happens, you know, to

1524
01:09:49,427 --> 01:09:53,107
Speaker 3: him or around him most weeks and he's been either

1525
01:09:53,187 --> 01:09:56,827
Speaker 3: unlucky or maybe something he's done as team's done, the car,

1526
01:09:56,907 --> 01:10:00,027
Speaker 3: whatever it is. How should we evaluate, you know, the

1527
01:10:00,067 --> 01:10:07,987
Speaker 3: first six or seven races of the year for Liam.

1528
01:10:05,867 --> 01:10:09,107
Speaker 29: I think you he's slowly getting there. Will you look

1529
01:10:09,147 --> 01:10:12,267
Speaker 29: at you, look at Antonelli, you look at Hedge. They're

1530
01:10:12,347 --> 01:10:18,587
Speaker 29: heading their straps really fast. And I think Liam's racing

1531
01:10:19,627 --> 01:10:23,587
Speaker 29: below what he's capable of. And I think it's it's confidence.

1532
01:10:25,307 --> 01:10:30,027
Speaker 29: He just doesn't seem to just have that, I'll say,

1533
01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:34,387
Speaker 29: arrogance and self belief. I know he's got the self belief,

1534
01:10:34,467 --> 01:10:37,787
Speaker 29: but the arrogance that comes with it to just absolutely

1535
01:10:37,907 --> 01:10:40,627
Speaker 29: pile on and push it. So I think every race

1536
01:10:40,747 --> 01:10:42,827
Speaker 29: is getting a little bit better, and I hope he

1537
01:10:42,867 --> 01:10:46,147
Speaker 29: does enough to say because if he does, I think

1538
01:10:46,187 --> 01:10:49,867
Speaker 29: he'll be another Alex Elboin esque sort of long term

1539
01:10:50,307 --> 01:10:50,987
Speaker 29: good driver.

1540
01:10:51,667 --> 01:10:53,347
Speaker 3: Love it, love it, Glenn. Well, let's hope he picks

1541
01:10:53,387 --> 01:10:55,867
Speaker 3: up points tomorrow morning and that will be another step

1542
01:10:55,907 --> 01:10:58,067
Speaker 3: along that track. You know, confidence can only be built,

1543
01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:00,267
Speaker 3: or his confidence can only be built if it gets

1544
01:11:00,267 --> 01:11:02,987
Speaker 3: points right. So yeah, let's hope it happens tomorrow morning. Mate,

1545
01:11:02,987 --> 01:11:07,667
Speaker 3: Thanks for your calling, your expertise. Great one, all the best, mate,

1546
01:11:07,667 --> 01:11:10,627
Speaker 3: you have a great one. Two twenty one away from two.

1547
01:11:10,907 --> 01:11:12,467
Speaker 3: A couple of texts before we go to a break,

1548
01:11:12,467 --> 01:11:16,307
Speaker 3: and James mcconey joins us in studio. Colin Chapman of

1549
01:11:16,347 --> 01:11:20,187
Speaker 3: Lotus Car's Fame says, Paul once said if he could

1550
01:11:20,187 --> 01:11:23,507
Speaker 3: get a Morris Oxford onto the poll at Monaco, who'd

1551
01:11:23,507 --> 01:11:26,427
Speaker 3: win the race? It's that difficult it is to pass there,

1552
01:11:26,467 --> 01:11:30,987
Speaker 3: And Twey says, apparently ticket sales from the Indianapolis five

1553
01:11:31,067 --> 01:11:34,787
Speaker 3: hundred last year were four hundred and eighty million dollars

1554
01:11:35,107 --> 01:11:37,547
Speaker 3: and that didn't include the beer and the hot dogs.

1555
01:11:37,587 --> 01:11:40,787
Speaker 3: Good stuff to we love it. That's like a break.

1556
01:11:40,827 --> 01:11:41,867
Speaker 3: James mcconey and studio.

1557
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:44,907
Speaker 2: After this you be the TMO.

1558
01:11:44,947 --> 01:11:47,387
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1559
01:11:47,547 --> 01:11:52,467
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and Gjjabnerholmes, New Zealand's most

1560
01:11:52,467 --> 01:11:54,427
Speaker 1: trusted home builder news Dogs they'd.

1561
01:11:54,307 --> 01:11:57,507
Speaker 3: Be it's coming up seventeen away from two Sunday afternoon,

1562
01:11:57,667 --> 01:11:59,867
Speaker 3: we get the pleasure of the company of James mcconey.

1563
01:11:59,907 --> 01:12:03,067
Speaker 3: I'm in Auckland this weekend and James, you've cummen Studio.

1564
01:12:03,187 --> 01:12:04,627
Speaker 3: It's just a delight to see you.

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01:12:04,707 --> 01:12:07,427
Speaker 11: It's great to see you. Pioney things that workout. Yesterday

1566
01:12:07,547 --> 01:12:10,947
Speaker 11: last night, I was there in the corner in the

1567
01:12:10,947 --> 01:12:13,827
Speaker 11: Beitcher base and I had a very good view of

1568
01:12:13,867 --> 01:12:15,147
Speaker 11: that controversial goal.

1569
01:12:15,347 --> 01:12:16,267
Speaker 3: What did you make of it?

1570
01:12:16,667 --> 01:12:19,107
Speaker 11: I was eating a jalapeno popper at the time and

1571
01:12:19,147 --> 01:12:21,827
Speaker 11: it was super hot and I was struggling to recover

1572
01:12:21,907 --> 01:12:22,187
Speaker 11: from that.

1573
01:12:22,587 --> 01:12:23,667
Speaker 13: But I thought it was a goal.

1574
01:12:24,147 --> 01:12:26,267
Speaker 3: You didn't think it bent out and came back in.

1575
01:12:26,347 --> 01:12:29,587
Speaker 3: You think it always the right side of the white line,

1576
01:12:29,587 --> 01:12:30,987
Speaker 3: even though you can't actually tell.

1577
01:12:31,267 --> 01:12:32,507
Speaker 11: Well, it has to be the hole of the ball,

1578
01:12:32,507 --> 01:12:36,147
Speaker 11: doesn't it. Yes, And we've seen some instances of that

1579
01:12:36,187 --> 01:12:39,227
Speaker 11: where especially with Japan and the World Cup, where it

1580
01:12:38,627 --> 01:12:42,827
Speaker 11: was quite looked like it was definitely out look it

1581
01:12:42,867 --> 01:12:44,707
Speaker 11: looked like it was more of a slice as much

1582
01:12:45,427 --> 01:12:48,147
Speaker 11: as much as anything. So you know, maybe it just

1583
01:12:48,187 --> 01:12:50,907
Speaker 11: that what we didn't see was the video evidence, did

1584
01:12:50,907 --> 01:12:53,267
Speaker 11: we piney? But I know that Steve Crocker, is that

1585
01:12:53,267 --> 01:12:54,827
Speaker 11: the reason why he just kind of lost it for

1586
01:12:54,867 --> 01:12:55,547
Speaker 11: the rest of the game.

1587
01:12:55,667 --> 01:12:58,627
Speaker 3: Yes, it was. He was absolutely fuming about that, and

1588
01:12:58,667 --> 01:13:01,587
Speaker 3: then obviously coupled with the frustration of not being able

1589
01:13:01,587 --> 01:13:05,707
Speaker 3: to get back in the game and eventually losing it.

1590
01:13:05,747 --> 01:13:07,507
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had text here right now. Watch the

1591
01:13:07,587 --> 01:13:10,507
Speaker 3: spin on the cross. It's not spinning sideways, so there's

1592
01:13:10,507 --> 01:13:12,747
Speaker 3: no way it can go out but bend back and

1593
01:13:12,827 --> 01:13:14,987
Speaker 3: it's mainly backspin. Look, I think we're getting quite deep

1594
01:13:15,027 --> 01:13:16,387
Speaker 3: in the weeds, I said.

1595
01:13:16,387 --> 01:13:17,907
Speaker 11: I think it's more of a slice and then a

1596
01:13:17,947 --> 01:13:22,147
Speaker 11: slice backhand, if you like. Even I spoke to gmo

1597
01:13:22,267 --> 01:13:25,667
Speaker 11: My after the game and he was saying, look, I

1598
01:13:25,707 --> 01:13:27,667
Speaker 11: wish I'd taken the shot because the ball did come

1599
01:13:27,707 --> 01:13:30,547
Speaker 11: across and then he let it roll. And of course

1600
01:13:30,547 --> 01:13:32,907
Speaker 11: he's not a right foot, he's a lefty right and

1601
01:13:32,947 --> 01:13:35,307
Speaker 11: then we have the incident of Lee and Gillian. He's

1602
01:13:35,307 --> 01:13:37,187
Speaker 11: not a left foot, of he's a arriety and he

1603
01:13:37,227 --> 01:13:40,787
Speaker 11: had a really good opportunity with his left foot. Like

1604
01:13:40,867 --> 01:13:42,707
Speaker 11: I said, anyone out there who's got a kid who

1605
01:13:42,707 --> 01:13:45,947
Speaker 11: plays football, get to play, get them to be two footed.

1606
01:13:46,067 --> 01:13:48,507
Speaker 11: At least have a shot with your wrong foot.

1607
01:13:49,187 --> 01:13:51,107
Speaker 3: Even Nander Pineker at the end, I thought, you know

1608
01:13:51,307 --> 01:13:53,947
Speaker 3: that when Jack Duncan drops the ball and he turns

1609
01:13:53,947 --> 01:13:55,507
Speaker 3: and goes to goes to put on, if he's on

1610
01:13:55,507 --> 01:13:58,027
Speaker 3: his left foot, he just monsters that into the net.

1611
01:13:58,187 --> 01:13:58,467
Speaker 11: Totally.

1612
01:13:58,547 --> 01:14:00,747
Speaker 3: Yeah. But Nando's right foot is pretty good too, but

1613
01:14:00,907 --> 01:14:03,147
Speaker 3: just not quite as good in a situation like that.

1614
01:14:03,267 --> 01:14:06,667
Speaker 11: And I know that was a reflex volley, but I

1615
01:14:06,707 --> 01:14:08,987
Speaker 11: also think you've got to leave your foot your feet

1616
01:14:09,027 --> 01:14:11,987
Speaker 11: at that point, you've really got to go. I mean,

1617
01:14:12,347 --> 01:14:14,187
Speaker 11: I don't want to say full palais. It's a bit

1618
01:14:14,547 --> 01:14:16,987
Speaker 11: of a tough ask, but you have to really get

1619
01:14:17,027 --> 01:14:19,587
Speaker 11: ethnic and get something behind it. Because the ball was

1620
01:14:19,587 --> 01:14:21,827
Speaker 11: really just drifting towards the goal. I think if you

1621
01:14:21,947 --> 01:14:25,387
Speaker 11: got any more velocity on it, it's a goal. But overall,

1622
01:14:25,427 --> 01:14:30,147
Speaker 11: Piney I would say that the Melbourne victory actually deserved that.

1623
01:14:30,987 --> 01:14:33,387
Speaker 11: I thought the Aukland f C were sort of I

1624
01:14:33,387 --> 01:14:36,387
Speaker 11: thought that the three t's timid, they were tentative a

1625
01:14:36,387 --> 01:14:39,587
Speaker 11: little bit tight, you know, I didn't. It didn't quite

1626
01:14:39,587 --> 01:14:43,067
Speaker 11: have it and that rhythm. And then of course with

1627
01:14:43,227 --> 01:14:45,427
Speaker 11: the victory, every time they attacked, they're just a little

1628
01:14:45,627 --> 01:14:47,587
Speaker 11: bit more. They had all the v's going right, you know,

1629
01:14:47,987 --> 01:14:50,707
Speaker 11: a bit of verve. They were variety, and they're quite

1630
01:14:50,747 --> 01:14:51,507
Speaker 11: vigorous as well.

1631
01:14:51,627 --> 01:14:53,827
Speaker 3: Very good, very good from you, just before we moved

1632
01:14:53,827 --> 01:14:55,827
Speaker 3: from the football. It'll take a while, won't it. In

1633
01:14:55,827 --> 01:14:57,427
Speaker 3: paul life. Will said this an hour or so ago.

1634
01:14:57,467 --> 01:14:59,987
Speaker 3: But at some point they'd have to look back with pride,

1635
01:15:00,027 --> 01:15:01,987
Speaker 3: wouldn't they once the disappointment wears off.

1636
01:15:02,187 --> 01:15:04,227
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I could see that from the players last night,

1637
01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:08,027
Speaker 11: even though I'm Alex Paulson in particular emotional. You know,

1638
01:15:08,267 --> 01:15:10,907
Speaker 11: he stayed in front of the fans for a little

1639
01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:13,707
Speaker 11: bit longer than the others because he is leaving. But

1640
01:15:14,307 --> 01:15:17,067
Speaker 11: you could tell that they were just so proud of

1641
01:15:17,067 --> 01:15:19,387
Speaker 11: what they've done, but also just coming together as such

1642
01:15:19,387 --> 01:15:21,627
Speaker 11: a you know, they've come from all parts of the world,

1643
01:15:21,747 --> 01:15:24,147
Speaker 11: all parts of the globe, and it was a miracle

1644
01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:26,547
Speaker 11: that they actually showed up at the right time. I

1645
01:15:26,547 --> 01:15:29,907
Speaker 11: think Nadal Moreno was at two weeks, but I didn't

1646
01:15:29,947 --> 01:15:32,187
Speaker 11: know where he was. And so and now you look,

1647
01:15:32,187 --> 01:15:37,427
Speaker 11: how crucially is they've bonded so well, and really it

1648
01:15:37,467 --> 01:15:39,227
Speaker 11: sets it up for next season. What can they do

1649
01:15:39,387 --> 01:15:41,747
Speaker 11: to actually because it would have been quite a tough

1650
01:15:41,827 --> 01:15:43,547
Speaker 11: second album next year if they won it all.

1651
01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:46,147
Speaker 3: Yes, no, correct, And now I guess you find out

1652
01:15:46,147 --> 01:15:48,387
Speaker 3: whether they've you know, I've got the ability to back

1653
01:15:48,427 --> 01:15:50,187
Speaker 3: it up in season two. We'll have to wait a

1654
01:15:50,187 --> 01:15:53,667
Speaker 3: bit for that. Meantime. An hour down the road, Yeah,

1655
01:15:53,747 --> 01:15:57,387
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are putting eighty five points on Mowana PACIFICA.

1656
01:15:57,427 --> 01:15:59,267
Speaker 11: Well, Pine, I don't know how you drive all, what

1657
01:15:59,347 --> 01:16:01,347
Speaker 11: your kind of car you're in if you're like the

1658
01:16:01,387 --> 01:16:04,587
Speaker 11: new Scottie McLaughlin. But it's an hour twenty thanks me.

1659
01:16:04,827 --> 01:16:09,827
Speaker 11: Not an helicopter, true, but anyway, leeh look, I couldn't

1660
01:16:09,827 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 11: believe the score. But also I think for Mina PACIFICA,

1661
01:16:13,107 --> 01:16:15,467
Speaker 11: if you play to your absolute maximum three or four

1662
01:16:15,507 --> 01:16:18,427
Speaker 11: weeks in a row, something's going to give. It's unsustainable.

1663
01:16:18,467 --> 01:16:21,267
Speaker 11: And unfortunately that was just one of those blowout games

1664
01:16:21,307 --> 01:16:25,667
Speaker 11: where the Chiefs were clicking Muana were probably tired, you know,

1665
01:16:26,627 --> 01:16:29,267
Speaker 11: lacking I guess what would you call it? That extra

1666
01:16:29,347 --> 01:16:32,307
Speaker 11: motivation of knowing this was a real sudden death moment.

1667
01:16:32,627 --> 01:16:36,587
Speaker 11: Even that whole Battle of the Bridge mentality against the

1668
01:16:36,627 --> 01:16:39,947
Speaker 11: Blues was huge battle of the nine. So look what

1669
01:16:40,067 --> 01:16:43,147
Speaker 11: the Chief showed though, is that, yeah, they are great

1670
01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:47,227
Speaker 11: when they're you know, front football. But if, for example,

1671
01:16:47,227 --> 01:16:48,867
Speaker 11: I don't want to play the Canes. You know, you

1672
01:16:48,907 --> 01:16:52,987
Speaker 11: saw the Canes on Friday night in Brisbane and what

1673
01:16:53,027 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 11: they do dupas Kadifi is just in such good form

1674
01:16:56,147 --> 01:16:57,987
Speaker 11: you can't even guarantee that you'll get three or four

1675
01:16:58,587 --> 01:17:01,267
Speaker 11: phases in a row with him sniping out there. So

1676
01:17:02,347 --> 01:17:03,947
Speaker 11: one thing I would say, Pineyer is and I did

1677
01:17:04,067 --> 01:17:05,707
Speaker 11: say this to you earlier in the season. I thought

1678
01:17:05,747 --> 01:17:09,547
Speaker 11: Simon park was a bolter. Then he disappeared from sight

1679
01:17:09,627 --> 01:17:11,667
Speaker 11: and you were going, what happened to Simon Parker? Mate,

1680
01:17:11,867 --> 01:17:13,187
Speaker 11: Well he is back, Piney.

1681
01:17:14,627 --> 01:17:16,547
Speaker 3: I don't remember saying what happened to Simon Parker, but

1682
01:17:16,587 --> 01:17:18,187
Speaker 3: I might have thought it. I've never seen it. What

1683
01:17:18,187 --> 01:17:21,027
Speaker 3: about Leroy Carter? I quite like the cut of this guy's.

1684
01:17:20,827 --> 01:17:24,507
Speaker 11: Jib Learra Carter is special. I mean they had a

1685
01:17:24,547 --> 01:17:27,747
Speaker 11: half back situation, didn't they were, because really if they

1686
01:17:27,787 --> 01:17:29,987
Speaker 11: lost another half back, you've got Leroy O Carter who

1687
01:17:30,027 --> 01:17:31,867
Speaker 11: played there in his age group. He also played a

1688
01:17:31,867 --> 01:17:34,787
Speaker 11: bit of flankers, so he's kind of like that. He's

1689
01:17:34,787 --> 01:17:36,907
Speaker 11: a bit of an every man rugby player. Everyone can

1690
01:17:37,187 --> 01:17:41,707
Speaker 11: everyone's played with a guy like Leroy Carter, undersize, combative, quick,

1691
01:17:42,787 --> 01:17:46,187
Speaker 11: he is super talent. I don't know if he'll get

1692
01:17:46,187 --> 01:17:48,387
Speaker 11: picked for the All Blacks. I just think, you know,

1693
01:17:48,467 --> 01:17:51,667
Speaker 11: someone like Tonny Tail who even is out of out

1694
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,587
Speaker 11: of side at the moment with injury, he might come

1695
01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:55,987
Speaker 11: back in and leap frog in. But that's why I'm

1696
01:17:56,027 --> 01:17:59,987
Speaker 11: sort of putting all my bets on Parker and McAllister

1697
01:18:00,067 --> 01:18:02,307
Speaker 11: from the Chiefs to be the new bees in the

1698
01:18:02,307 --> 01:18:03,107
Speaker 11: All Blacks.

1699
01:18:03,587 --> 01:18:05,547
Speaker 3: Let's go to a she just on the Hurricanes. I

1700
01:18:05,547 --> 01:18:07,987
Speaker 3: thought they were good the other one too. I and

1701
01:18:07,987 --> 01:18:10,427
Speaker 3: they my team obviously, but you know, to secure that

1702
01:18:10,467 --> 01:18:14,427
Speaker 3: because what they've done is is avoided the possibility of

1703
01:18:14,427 --> 01:18:16,507
Speaker 3: almost a must win game against more other pacifica are

1704
01:18:16,547 --> 01:18:19,067
Speaker 3: wounded more on a pacifica Ardie Save has returned to

1705
01:18:19,107 --> 01:18:20,747
Speaker 3: Sky Stadium, all of that sort of stuff.

1706
01:18:20,867 --> 01:18:24,587
Speaker 11: Next week, you know, the Hurricanes with I mean Riley

1707
01:18:24,667 --> 01:18:27,627
Speaker 11: Higgins wasn't playing, but Thomas Sumunger Jensen and Riley I

1708
01:18:27,627 --> 01:18:29,947
Speaker 11: think are level pegging. But having Procter back in there,

1709
01:18:30,187 --> 01:18:34,107
Speaker 11: having a midfield that everyone is not only scared of,

1710
01:18:34,187 --> 01:18:37,027
Speaker 11: but also makes the whole team function perfectly. When the

1711
01:18:37,107 --> 01:18:39,507
Speaker 11: Hurricanes are going through their phases, I think they're the

1712
01:18:39,507 --> 01:18:42,027
Speaker 11: slickeest of any team in Super Rugby. They remind me

1713
01:18:42,067 --> 01:18:46,267
Speaker 11: of France and you know, and good France. So really,

1714
01:18:46,347 --> 01:18:49,307
Speaker 11: if they can play that sort of rugby, it's hard

1715
01:18:49,347 --> 01:18:49,907
Speaker 11: for anyone to.

1716
01:18:49,867 --> 01:18:50,387
Speaker 6: Live with them.

1717
01:18:50,387 --> 01:18:52,827
Speaker 11: But you can see even in some of those big

1718
01:18:52,827 --> 01:18:54,987
Speaker 11: games where you see a team in possession looks so

1719
01:18:55,067 --> 01:18:58,547
Speaker 11: different from a team defending, and the scores can ramp up.

1720
01:18:58,547 --> 01:19:02,667
Speaker 11: But you know, as Stephen Donald has said, Super rugby

1721
01:19:02,707 --> 01:19:07,107
Speaker 11: is one in the winter, Pioney winter is slowly. Yes,

1722
01:19:07,307 --> 01:19:09,507
Speaker 11: that was the problem with Mount Smart last night. Well,

1723
01:19:09,547 --> 01:19:11,827
Speaker 11: so we gave the Melbourne victory a billion table to

1724
01:19:11,867 --> 01:19:15,147
Speaker 11: play on and we played on a bog in Melbourne

1725
01:19:15,467 --> 01:19:17,867
Speaker 11: and we actually gave them the perfect conditions and of

1726
01:19:17,867 --> 01:19:19,987
Speaker 11: course they have the players to capitalize.

1727
01:19:20,067 --> 01:19:21,907
Speaker 3: Imagine if that goal from Moreno had gone on a

1728
01:19:21,947 --> 01:19:24,867
Speaker 3: week ago eight it just comes into start contrast with

1729
01:19:24,907 --> 01:19:25,747
Speaker 3: what happened last night.

1730
01:19:25,787 --> 01:19:27,867
Speaker 11: Eh, totally, totally we would have we should have been

1731
01:19:27,947 --> 01:19:30,347
Speaker 11: hosting a final. It's a shame, but look they've given

1732
01:19:30,427 --> 01:19:33,027
Speaker 11: us everything, or they've exceeded expectations.

1733
01:19:33,747 --> 01:19:35,987
Speaker 3: Let's go to the NBA Finals. There's a game on

1734
01:19:36,027 --> 01:19:38,107
Speaker 3: at the moment. Okay, so you're two near ahead of

1735
01:19:38,147 --> 01:19:41,427
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves in this best of seven series halftime

1736
01:19:41,547 --> 01:19:44,387
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis in Game three, the Timberwolves were a hit

1737
01:19:44,547 --> 01:19:48,707
Speaker 3: seventy two, forty one, seventy two points in the first half.

1738
01:19:49,987 --> 01:19:52,587
Speaker 11: It's weird, isn't it. I mean that I'm not actually

1739
01:19:52,667 --> 01:19:55,147
Speaker 11: too concerned about who goes through from that side, because

1740
01:19:55,867 --> 01:19:58,787
Speaker 11: I mean, part of you want Anthony Edwards, the rising superstar,

1741
01:19:58,867 --> 01:20:00,987
Speaker 11: to make it from the Timberwolves. And then you've got, okay,

1742
01:20:01,027 --> 01:20:03,907
Speaker 11: see this sort of like young team that just average

1743
01:20:03,907 --> 01:20:05,947
Speaker 11: age will be like, oh, you think twenty three or

1744
01:20:05,987 --> 01:20:08,947
Speaker 11: something like that with Shae Gilger just Alexander. But on

1745
01:20:08,987 --> 01:20:11,507
Speaker 11: the other side, you've got this incredible story of a

1746
01:20:11,587 --> 01:20:15,027
Speaker 11: rivalry between the Pacers and the Knicks and Tyres Halliburton,

1747
01:20:15,107 --> 01:20:17,787
Speaker 11: who's a set of tallest guard who's really mainly an

1748
01:20:17,787 --> 01:20:20,787
Speaker 11: assist guy. He's a passer, but he is just proving

1749
01:20:20,827 --> 01:20:24,147
Speaker 11: to be so clutch and so crucial in their battles

1750
01:20:24,147 --> 01:20:26,307
Speaker 11: that I just look at it and go are the

1751
01:20:26,347 --> 01:20:30,507
Speaker 11: paces really now the team to beat overall, because they've

1752
01:20:30,547 --> 01:20:33,827
Speaker 11: got a guy as well, Pascal Siakam, who if you

1753
01:20:33,867 --> 01:20:35,867
Speaker 11: don't know, he's from Cameroon, but he actually won a

1754
01:20:35,867 --> 01:20:39,027
Speaker 11: title with the Toronto Raptors and he was kind of

1755
01:20:39,067 --> 01:20:42,467
Speaker 11: the robin to Kawhi Leonard's batman. And now he's the

1756
01:20:42,547 --> 01:20:45,347
Speaker 11: robin again. And you always need a good robin. You

1757
01:20:45,387 --> 01:20:46,667
Speaker 11: can't just have Michael Jordan.

1758
01:20:47,027 --> 01:20:48,907
Speaker 3: You need Scottie Pippin exactly.

1759
01:20:48,947 --> 01:20:50,827
Speaker 11: And you can't have Larry Bird. You need Kevin McHale.

1760
01:20:50,947 --> 01:20:53,067
Speaker 11: So that's what they've got and it's working for.

1761
01:20:53,027 --> 01:20:55,587
Speaker 3: Them absolutely, yep. So the Pacers could be real. I

1762
01:20:55,587 --> 01:20:58,307
Speaker 3: mean they're tunil up over the Knicks Timberwolves. Back in

1763
01:20:58,347 --> 01:21:01,067
Speaker 3: this one. Just before you go, somebody's going to drink

1764
01:21:01,107 --> 01:21:04,427
Speaker 3: a big bottle of milk at the brickyard tomorrow morning.

1765
01:21:04,987 --> 01:21:06,227
Speaker 3: Scott Dixon fourth on the grip.

1766
01:21:06,427 --> 01:21:06,867
Speaker 21: Do you do it?

1767
01:21:07,147 --> 01:21:09,227
Speaker 11: I'm hoping you can. I mean, look, you said you

1768
01:21:09,267 --> 01:21:11,467
Speaker 11: remember him winning back in two thousand and eight. I

1769
01:21:11,507 --> 01:21:15,147
Speaker 11: remember him with a cushion strap to his bum driving

1770
01:21:15,187 --> 01:21:19,187
Speaker 11: in this an CenTra around Poka koe E Racetrack. So yeah,

1771
01:21:19,227 --> 01:21:22,467
Speaker 11: I remember that little Ginger kid, and I feel seventeen

1772
01:21:22,547 --> 01:21:25,067
Speaker 11: years is a long wait for some more milk, isn't it?

1773
01:21:25,107 --> 01:21:28,627
Speaker 11: And ideally he'd get there. But it's a shame for

1774
01:21:28,947 --> 01:21:32,187
Speaker 11: Scott McLachlin because because he crashed his car. Like your

1775
01:21:32,307 --> 01:21:35,267
Speaker 11: experts said just before, it's always a bummer when you've

1776
01:21:35,267 --> 01:21:38,107
Speaker 11: got the courtesy car, Yes, you know, especially if you're

1777
01:21:38,107 --> 01:21:38,907
Speaker 11: going out on a date.

1778
01:21:39,747 --> 01:21:42,947
Speaker 3: And this isn't my car smells a bit.

1779
01:21:42,827 --> 01:21:46,347
Speaker 11: Of old milk, well exactly, and it doesn't impress anyone.

1780
01:21:46,347 --> 01:21:50,027
Speaker 11: But anyway, Indianapolis is the center of the sporting universe.

1781
01:21:50,107 --> 01:21:52,147
Speaker 11: Caitlin Clark is going off as well. We'll talk about

1782
01:21:52,147 --> 01:21:55,627
Speaker 11: it next time. But and we've got Kiwis in the mix,

1783
01:21:55,667 --> 01:21:57,627
Speaker 11: of course, with the NDY five hundred. But I thought

1784
01:21:57,627 --> 01:21:59,987
Speaker 11: i'd leave you with this Pony, one of the greatest

1785
01:22:00,147 --> 01:22:03,667
Speaker 11: ever theme tunes from a sitcom One Day at a Time,

1786
01:22:03,787 --> 01:22:04,907
Speaker 11: set in Indianapolis.

1787
01:22:05,547 --> 01:22:08,747
Speaker 3: Can you remember this to Valerie Berconelli? Yes, we all

1788
01:22:08,787 --> 01:22:11,067
Speaker 3: remember that Schneider was the handyman.

1789
01:22:11,307 --> 01:22:13,547
Speaker 11: Handyman and he had a T shirt like yours with

1790
01:22:13,627 --> 01:22:15,587
Speaker 11: the cigarette in the in the sleeve.

1791
01:22:17,187 --> 01:22:19,587
Speaker 3: One of the great stairs. Are you, James mcconey part

1792
01:22:19,587 --> 01:22:20,747
Speaker 3: of our Sundays.

1793
01:22:20,907 --> 01:22:28,707
Speaker 1: Cheers mate, when it's down to the line, you made

1794
01:22:28,707 --> 01:22:29,107
Speaker 1: a call.

1795
01:22:29,267 --> 01:22:34,227
Speaker 2: On eight Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News Talk.

1796
01:22:34,307 --> 01:22:37,067
Speaker 3: V coming up four away from two after two o'clock,

1797
01:22:37,067 --> 01:22:39,987
Speaker 3: we'll get inside the Chiefs camp to unpack their eighty

1798
01:22:40,147 --> 01:22:43,707
Speaker 3: five seven win over the ONEA Pacifica last night. Roger Randall,

1799
01:22:43,747 --> 01:22:47,387
Speaker 3: assistant coach, is with us on the show. We'll also

1800
01:22:47,707 --> 01:22:52,827
Speaker 3: here from International Paralympic Committee President Andrew Parsons. He's been

1801
01:22:53,187 --> 01:22:55,507
Speaker 3: in New Zealand this past week or so, so he's

1802
01:22:55,507 --> 01:22:57,827
Speaker 3: going to stop him for a chat. And Wayne Goldsmith

1803
01:22:57,827 --> 01:23:00,227
Speaker 3: that coaching guru. How do your best coach a REP

1804
01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:03,027
Speaker 3: team like a state of origin team? What's the best way?

1805
01:23:03,227 --> 01:23:07,347
Speaker 2: He's on too, the only place to discussed the biggest

1806
01:23:07,427 --> 01:23:11,267
Speaker 2: force issues on and after fields. It's all on Wi

1807
01:23:11,387 --> 01:23:15,267
Speaker 2: James Forward with Jason Vane on your home of Sport.

1808
01:23:16,307 --> 01:23:20,227
Speaker 3: News Talk Tomo seven. Welcome back in on text Piney.

1809
01:23:20,267 --> 01:23:24,707
Speaker 3: Were you aware that Sunderland came from behind and beat

1810
01:23:24,707 --> 01:23:28,027
Speaker 3: the Blades this morning? Premier League here we come. I

1811
01:23:28,147 --> 01:23:30,747
Speaker 3: was aware of that and in fact they may well

1812
01:23:30,787 --> 01:23:33,507
Speaker 3: be a little bit of that and an next feature

1813
01:23:33,547 --> 01:23:35,427
Speaker 3: in case you missed it, But yes, I was aware

1814
01:23:35,467 --> 01:23:38,347
Speaker 3: that Sunderland are back in the Premier League. I was

1815
01:23:38,387 --> 01:23:41,307
Speaker 3: just checking when they were last there twenty sixteen seventeen

1816
01:23:42,787 --> 01:23:47,227
Speaker 3: they were relegated. Twenty seventeen eighteen was when they did

1817
01:23:47,227 --> 01:23:50,107
Speaker 3: the first episode or first series rather of Sunderland Until

1818
01:23:50,147 --> 01:23:53,747
Speaker 3: I Die. And I'm pretty sure the reality TV people

1819
01:23:53,787 --> 01:23:56,907
Speaker 3: came in and said to the hows that be at Sunderland, Hey,

1820
01:23:56,947 --> 01:23:59,627
Speaker 3: you've been relegated from the Premier League. Surely you're going

1821
01:23:59,667 --> 01:24:01,947
Speaker 3: to get promoted straight back up. Let's do a reality

1822
01:24:02,027 --> 01:24:05,107
Speaker 3: series to chart that, and instead went the other way.

1823
01:24:05,627 --> 01:24:07,907
Speaker 3: They got relegated at It again, which made for even

1824
01:24:07,947 --> 01:24:10,987
Speaker 3: better TV. Actually down into League One where they stayed

1825
01:24:10,987 --> 01:24:15,747
Speaker 3: for four seasons, back up into the Championship and now

1826
01:24:15,827 --> 01:24:19,347
Speaker 3: back up into the Premier League. Congratulations to the black

1827
01:24:19,387 --> 01:24:23,627
Speaker 3: Cats of Sunderland and I hope all New Zealand based

1828
01:24:23,667 --> 01:24:28,867
Speaker 3: fans of Sunderland are having a very good date. This

1829
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:31,147
Speaker 3: is Weekend Sport. We're here till three, Tim Beverage after

1830
01:24:31,187 --> 01:24:33,587
Speaker 3: three with the Weekend Collective. Quite a bit to get

1831
01:24:33,587 --> 01:24:36,747
Speaker 3: through before we hand it over. Lines of communication remain open,

1832
01:24:36,787 --> 01:24:39,147
Speaker 3: by the way. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

1833
01:24:39,187 --> 01:24:42,147
Speaker 3: two ninety two on text emails to Jason at Newstalk

1834
01:24:42,187 --> 01:24:46,027
Speaker 3: shadb dot co dot NZ. Roger Randal standing by the

1835
01:24:46,067 --> 01:24:49,467
Speaker 3: chat to us assistant coach with the Chiefs, can't imagine

1836
01:24:49,467 --> 01:24:52,027
Speaker 3: there'll be too much to complain about after an eighty

1837
01:24:52,067 --> 01:24:54,587
Speaker 3: five seven went over White at Pacifica last night. It

1838
01:24:54,667 --> 01:24:57,027
Speaker 3: still doesn't guarantee them top spot though they still have

1839
01:24:57,107 --> 01:24:59,827
Speaker 3: to go to Dunedin and beat the Highlanders on Friday

1840
01:25:00,067 --> 01:25:04,387
Speaker 3: to claim top spot heading into the finals. Roger Randal

1841
01:25:04,467 --> 01:25:07,187
Speaker 3: standing by Andrew Parsons is on the show. He is

1842
01:25:07,227 --> 01:25:10,947
Speaker 3: the president of the International Paralympic Committee. He spent the

1843
01:25:11,027 --> 01:25:13,787
Speaker 3: last four or five days here in New Zealand. What

1844
01:25:13,867 --> 01:25:18,787
Speaker 3: have been his main takeaways from here? And Wayne Goldsmith

1845
01:25:18,827 --> 01:25:21,667
Speaker 3: at Coaching Guru. Regular listeners to the show will know

1846
01:25:21,787 --> 01:25:25,187
Speaker 3: we regularly catch up with Wayne on various sporting matters,

1847
01:25:25,427 --> 01:25:28,307
Speaker 3: mainly to do with coaching today. What are the best

1848
01:25:28,627 --> 01:25:31,747
Speaker 3: strategies for coaching rap teams when you pull together a

1849
01:25:31,747 --> 01:25:34,827
Speaker 3: whole bunch of players from different teams and try and

1850
01:25:35,187 --> 01:25:38,427
Speaker 3: mesh them quickly like State of Origin like the British

1851
01:25:38,427 --> 01:25:44,027
Speaker 3: and Irish Lions. Wayne Goldsmith with some wisdom as always

1852
01:25:44,427 --> 01:25:48,987
Speaker 3: on that. Just want to check in on the basketball

1853
01:25:50,147 --> 01:25:53,707
Speaker 3: while we've got time. In the third quarter, the Minnesota

1854
01:25:53,707 --> 01:25:59,867
Speaker 3: Timberwolves lead the Oklahoma City is under seventy four fifty two. Okay,

1855
01:25:59,907 --> 01:26:01,747
Speaker 3: see are two ndala ahead in the series. So the

1856
01:26:01,747 --> 01:26:03,667
Speaker 3: Timberwolves really need to win this one and they're going

1857
01:26:04,547 --> 01:26:06,907
Speaker 3: along pretty nicely seventy four fifty ten to her head

1858
01:26:07,267 --> 01:26:10,827
Speaker 3: in the third quarter. Only just into the third quarter.

1859
01:26:12,627 --> 01:26:15,547
Speaker 3: As we always do at about this time on Saturday

1860
01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:18,707
Speaker 3: and Sunday afternoons, though, it is time to catch you

1861
01:26:18,827 --> 01:26:20,907
Speaker 3: up with the things you might have missed, some of

1862
01:26:20,907 --> 01:26:24,067
Speaker 3: the things that have happened while you weren't paying full

1863
01:26:24,107 --> 01:26:29,507
Speaker 3: attention in case you missed it as the name of

1864
01:26:29,547 --> 01:26:32,347
Speaker 3: the feature, and we start in the NRL, the Roosters

1865
01:26:32,387 --> 01:26:35,707
Speaker 3: putting on a strong showing against the Sharks, who were

1866
01:26:36,027 --> 01:26:39,267
Speaker 3: origin weakened. The long need it was even flat footed,

1867
01:26:39,347 --> 01:26:41,307
Speaker 3: did you in something?

1868
01:26:41,467 --> 01:26:43,347
Speaker 22: Coming in to start?

1869
01:26:43,747 --> 01:26:46,507
Speaker 4: Christ Is finished with the next time MASI point and

1870
01:26:46,707 --> 01:26:48,947
Speaker 4: the longing that it is a juke.

1871
01:26:49,587 --> 01:26:53,187
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. He just stood there, He just touched football.

1872
01:26:54,307 --> 01:26:57,307
Speaker 3: Many crowds at top. A very comprehensive forty two to

1873
01:26:57,467 --> 01:27:00,467
Speaker 3: sixteen win for the Roosters and a much needed win

1874
01:27:00,627 --> 01:27:05,987
Speaker 3: for the spluttering Nights against an equally spluttering Penrith Panthers.

1875
01:27:06,067 --> 01:27:08,027
Speaker 3: Last tackle came and.

1876
01:27:10,507 --> 01:27:11,467
Speaker 13: I mean he's.

1877
01:27:11,307 --> 01:27:16,707
Speaker 12: Gonna have to chill out, lucas he's having a night

1878
01:27:16,787 --> 01:27:18,187
Speaker 12: out in fair thirsties.

1879
01:27:18,667 --> 01:27:19,747
Speaker 11: When did you get a golf.

1880
01:27:19,587 --> 01:27:22,467
Speaker 7: Pandick somewhere here cut joins tow three duncreds.

1881
01:27:22,067 --> 01:27:25,227
Speaker 3: A gold so that one twenty five to six has

1882
01:27:25,427 --> 01:27:29,547
Speaker 3: lifted the Newcastle Knights to the giddy heights of fourteenth

1883
01:27:29,587 --> 01:27:33,587
Speaker 3: on here in Rolanda. The Panthers, meantime, remain rock bottom

1884
01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:35,787
Speaker 3: to Super Rugby. The warrortars a beat in the force

1885
01:27:36,227 --> 01:27:39,507
Speaker 3: and a dramatic extra time went out west turn away.

1886
01:27:39,827 --> 01:27:40,507
Speaker 22: Over the top.

1887
01:27:40,547 --> 01:27:41,507
Speaker 2: That comes.

1888
01:27:42,747 --> 01:27:50,707
Speaker 23: Catt Hazy, donut you have a Lena, what would.

1889
01:27:50,867 --> 01:27:52,907
Speaker 3: We need the kick come up this.

1890
01:27:54,427 --> 01:27:54,867
Speaker 22: Season?

1891
01:27:55,827 --> 01:28:00,707
Speaker 3: He's still alive to the long tis. Yes. Indeed that

1892
01:28:00,827 --> 01:28:03,267
Speaker 3: was in the ninety first minute, so right at the

1893
01:28:03,387 --> 01:28:04,787
Speaker 3: end of the ten minutes of at a time it

1894
01:28:04,787 --> 01:28:06,667
Speaker 3: would have been a drawer. It'll not be from that

1895
01:28:07,027 --> 01:28:10,187
Speaker 3: for that lancash to try staying with Rugby. Bordeaux are

1896
01:28:10,227 --> 01:28:11,307
Speaker 3: the champions of Europe.

1897
01:28:11,387 --> 01:28:14,667
Speaker 12: But of course elk ship going Hutchinson Wolf I can

1898
01:28:14,787 --> 01:28:19,147
Speaker 12: get this lighted that is it born O, i'n't done it.

1899
01:28:21,547 --> 01:28:25,587
Speaker 3: The Union has its trophy and it's the big one.

1900
01:28:26,427 --> 01:28:29,347
Speaker 13: They win this famous Old.

1901
01:28:29,187 --> 01:28:32,227
Speaker 3: Cup, beating the Northampton Saints twenty eight to twenty in

1902
01:28:32,307 --> 01:28:35,187
Speaker 3: the final. A good day for Liam Lawson and Monaco.

1903
01:28:35,507 --> 01:28:36,827
Speaker 22: The Lawson half a.

1904
01:28:36,907 --> 01:28:39,227
Speaker 21: Sack of down, but that's actually not a bad position.

1905
01:28:39,387 --> 01:28:40,907
Speaker 1: For it to be at the moment.

1906
01:28:41,027 --> 01:28:44,467
Speaker 2: The racing balls where I've got a pay said yeah.

1907
01:28:44,387 --> 01:28:47,027
Speaker 22: Laws, it's been driving very nicely around here.

1908
01:28:47,627 --> 01:28:50,987
Speaker 3: Lawson crosses the line, goes eighth, passes and starting ninth

1909
01:28:51,427 --> 01:28:53,667
Speaker 3: in tomorrow Morning's Monico Grand Prix. A good day for

1910
01:28:53,787 --> 01:28:56,227
Speaker 3: Lawson and even better one for Lando Norris.

1911
01:28:56,427 --> 01:29:00,347
Speaker 7: He comes paste to the line now third fastsuddinly call

1912
01:29:00,387 --> 01:29:01,907
Speaker 7: a championship.

1913
01:29:01,347 --> 01:29:05,587
Speaker 3: Leader and it's all down to Lando Norris and Lawris.

1914
01:29:05,627 --> 01:29:07,187
Speaker 12: The Mare crosses the line.

1915
01:29:07,547 --> 01:29:11,307
Speaker 5: Norris is on Poland Monaco, how boy did he need.

1916
01:29:13,747 --> 01:29:14,027
Speaker 16: Landon?

1917
01:29:14,067 --> 01:29:17,787
Speaker 3: Norris will start on Poland. Finally, a last gasp effort

1918
01:29:18,187 --> 01:29:21,987
Speaker 3: from departing hero Tom Watson has seen Sunderland back to

1919
01:29:22,067 --> 01:29:24,587
Speaker 3: the Premier League. Given a word by Key for more,

1920
01:29:25,787 --> 01:29:26,867
Speaker 3: it's Tommy Watson.

1921
01:29:27,227 --> 01:29:34,187
Speaker 12: This took me some so well, goodness me, but so

1922
01:29:34,387 --> 01:29:40,147
Speaker 12: you say goodbye. He's going to the Premier League anyway

1923
01:29:40,187 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 12: this summer.

1924
01:29:42,107 --> 01:29:43,387
Speaker 13: He's just taken.

1925
01:29:43,187 --> 01:29:45,027
Speaker 2: Surely his club ter.

1926
01:29:46,867 --> 01:29:49,467
Speaker 1: The scoop from the trag field and the court on

1927
01:29:49,627 --> 01:29:52,107
Speaker 1: your home of sort weekends for it with.

1928
01:29:52,347 --> 01:29:57,107
Speaker 3: J tremendous high drama there in the game they call

1929
01:29:57,147 --> 01:29:59,307
Speaker 3: the richest one of all for the right to play

1930
01:29:59,427 --> 01:30:02,347
Speaker 3: in the Premier League next season, which Sunderland will do.

1931
01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:08,267
Speaker 3: Two thirteen, the Chiefs have demolished PACIFICA eighty five seven

1932
01:30:08,427 --> 01:30:10,587
Speaker 3: in Hamilton to move back to the top of the

1933
01:30:10,667 --> 01:30:11,627
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Ladder.

1934
01:30:11,987 --> 01:30:13,627
Speaker 22: Here we go, How good's that?

1935
01:30:13,987 --> 01:30:16,467
Speaker 16: What is made in ratamar In put a try?

1936
01:30:16,667 --> 01:30:20,627
Speaker 4: Yeah, fourteen on debut on the wing, Fellas out to Mackenzie,

1937
01:30:20,867 --> 01:30:21,987
Speaker 4: Mackenzie to Stevenson.

1938
01:30:22,267 --> 01:30:22,907
Speaker 16: It's in the air.

1939
01:30:23,067 --> 01:30:24,027
Speaker 11: Who's running for it.

1940
01:30:24,227 --> 01:30:24,827
Speaker 4: Who's got it?

1941
01:30:25,067 --> 01:30:25,627
Speaker 6: Who's there?

1942
01:30:26,227 --> 01:30:29,587
Speaker 22: And if the dry buck is a try, isn't it?

1943
01:30:30,067 --> 01:30:32,067
Speaker 4: We're going to have the penalty tries, the last one

1944
01:30:32,107 --> 01:30:34,027
Speaker 4: which is going to take seven because you don't need

1945
01:30:34,067 --> 01:30:36,587
Speaker 4: the conversion that is going to make it eighty five

1946
01:30:36,667 --> 01:30:38,947
Speaker 4: points to seven. Eighty minutes gone.

1947
01:30:39,427 --> 01:30:40,027
Speaker 15: He try.

1948
01:30:41,307 --> 01:30:43,627
Speaker 4: There's just too many tries on my sheep to go

1949
01:30:43,827 --> 01:30:45,627
Speaker 4: through and name them all, but thirty one millar at

1950
01:30:45,667 --> 01:30:48,107
Speaker 4: half time eighty five seven at full time.

1951
01:30:48,227 --> 01:30:51,467
Speaker 3: Here the Chiefs running in thirteen tries to one, posting

1952
01:30:51,547 --> 01:30:55,467
Speaker 3: the biggest margin in the Super Rugby Pacific era and

1953
01:30:55,587 --> 01:30:59,107
Speaker 3: the third biggest in Super Rugby history dating all the

1954
01:30:59,147 --> 01:31:01,747
Speaker 3: way back to nineteen ninety six. Assistant coach of the

1955
01:31:01,827 --> 01:31:04,907
Speaker 3: Chiefs is Roger Randall, or one of the assistant coaches.

1956
01:31:04,907 --> 01:31:07,067
Speaker 3: He joins us now, Roger, thanks for taking call. I

1957
01:31:07,107 --> 01:31:09,867
Speaker 3: guess hard to have too many complaints when you chalk

1958
01:31:09,987 --> 01:31:11,907
Speaker 3: up eighty five points. But what were you and the

1959
01:31:12,267 --> 01:31:15,387
Speaker 3: rest of the coaching staff most pleased about last night?

1960
01:31:17,587 --> 01:31:20,787
Speaker 9: Well, you know, creously. I think the way we're respected

1961
01:31:21,067 --> 01:31:26,867
Speaker 9: one other way that's been playing and was pretty We

1962
01:31:26,947 --> 01:31:30,747
Speaker 9: had a bit of preparation for twelve potential earlier in

1963
01:31:30,787 --> 01:31:32,467
Speaker 9: the week and then probably doing a little bit more

1964
01:31:33,627 --> 01:31:41,147
Speaker 9: and after that. But you were just pleased to put

1965
01:31:41,227 --> 01:31:44,147
Speaker 9: out a plan that most of the time came off.

1966
01:31:45,027 --> 01:31:48,067
Speaker 3: Did you feel like this performance was coming, not just

1967
01:31:48,187 --> 01:31:50,267
Speaker 3: this week, but did you feel like a really big

1968
01:31:50,867 --> 01:31:54,027
Speaker 3: point scoring performance from your team was coming at some

1969
01:31:54,187 --> 01:31:54,987
Speaker 3: stage this season?

1970
01:31:59,187 --> 01:32:10,027
Speaker 9: We played really well, had a held little flat patch

1971
01:32:10,267 --> 01:32:13,027
Speaker 9: most of the eras when our skill sets around twenty

1972
01:32:13,067 --> 01:32:17,467
Speaker 9: minutes and we've got three tries up and then fortunately

1973
01:32:17,587 --> 01:32:21,227
Speaker 9: got a couple of tries for half time to to

1974
01:32:22,427 --> 01:32:25,907
Speaker 9: there's a bit more confident than to see what happened

1975
01:32:25,947 --> 01:32:29,347
Speaker 9: last time we played the middle league POI and then

1976
01:32:30,667 --> 01:32:33,227
Speaker 9: we you SI mentioning it. But the guys in the

1977
01:32:33,267 --> 01:32:39,187
Speaker 9: bigger head them very good half team, very fat, and

1978
01:32:40,267 --> 01:32:42,187
Speaker 9: so we just started well next second half and went

1979
01:32:42,227 --> 01:32:42,587
Speaker 9: from here.

1980
01:32:44,027 --> 01:32:47,547
Speaker 3: How hard is it for players to stay disciplined when

1981
01:32:48,107 --> 01:32:50,787
Speaker 3: the result is beyond doubt, when you're you know, you're

1982
01:32:50,827 --> 01:32:53,227
Speaker 3: so far clear, you know you're going to win the match.

1983
01:32:53,667 --> 01:32:56,467
Speaker 3: How challenging is it for a player or applying group

1984
01:32:56,547 --> 01:32:59,107
Speaker 3: to stay disciplined in situations like that?

1985
01:33:01,427 --> 01:33:03,827
Speaker 9: Yeah, there are probably the pleading aspects that the guys

1986
01:33:05,067 --> 01:33:10,067
Speaker 9: didn't moved you away from what was working well, move

1987
01:33:10,147 --> 01:33:13,227
Speaker 9: the ball and then it was all off the back

1988
01:33:13,267 --> 01:33:16,907
Speaker 9: of our set piece of our carrying clean game which

1989
01:33:16,947 --> 01:33:18,587
Speaker 9: give us some pretty good ball for the backs. So

1990
01:33:19,347 --> 01:33:24,707
Speaker 9: pretty simple recipe, brit I guess, but the boys executed

1991
01:33:25,147 --> 01:33:26,347
Speaker 9: a lot of us start pretty well.

1992
01:33:26,907 --> 01:33:29,867
Speaker 3: Over five hundred points for the season. Now points stuff

1993
01:33:30,027 --> 01:33:33,587
Speaker 3: is over two hundred. Are these metrics that that you're

1994
01:33:33,627 --> 01:33:33,947
Speaker 3: proud of?

1995
01:33:35,907 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 16: Uh? They?

1996
01:33:36,507 --> 01:33:36,667
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1997
01:33:36,867 --> 01:33:41,347
Speaker 9: But it's not we look at too often. But I

1998
01:33:41,387 --> 01:33:43,147
Speaker 9: guess when they come down the points for and against

1999
01:33:43,187 --> 01:33:48,267
Speaker 9: that that's always always handy. But but yeah, it's nice

2000
01:33:48,307 --> 01:33:51,627
Speaker 9: to look at, I guess at times, so we don't

2001
01:33:51,667 --> 01:33:53,667
Speaker 9: focus too much on the points for and against us

2002
01:33:54,107 --> 01:33:56,907
Speaker 9: probably the points on the table that matter and getting

2003
01:33:56,947 --> 01:33:59,707
Speaker 9: those bonus points when you're when you can and with

2004
01:33:59,787 --> 01:34:04,587
Speaker 9: a little fear of those slips, which is not ideal. Hence,

2005
01:34:04,667 --> 01:34:07,307
Speaker 9: while we're the races so tight at the moment, so

2006
01:34:07,627 --> 01:34:09,547
Speaker 9: I think there's probably a few teams that could say

2007
01:34:09,827 --> 01:34:11,787
Speaker 9: they've let some try screen bonus points go in the

2008
01:34:11,867 --> 01:34:15,347
Speaker 9: past and maybe are losing bonus point here and there.

2009
01:34:15,467 --> 01:34:18,027
Speaker 9: So all of the teams are in that top six

2010
01:34:18,227 --> 01:34:23,347
Speaker 9: or fighting for positioning, the bonus points are pretty vital.

2011
01:34:23,587 --> 01:34:25,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, as you say, it is so tight, you

2012
01:34:25,467 --> 01:34:28,507
Speaker 3: still need to win your final game to be as

2013
01:34:28,547 --> 01:34:29,947
Speaker 3: short of top spot. Have you got to go to

2014
01:34:30,067 --> 01:34:32,147
Speaker 3: Dunedin on Friday night to get the win down there

2015
01:34:32,187 --> 01:34:35,907
Speaker 3: because behind you Crusaders and Brumbies who play one another,

2016
01:34:35,987 --> 01:34:38,787
Speaker 3: so someone's probably going to win that game. How determined

2017
01:34:38,827 --> 01:34:42,387
Speaker 3: ay to finish the job in dneda earn that top

2018
01:34:42,467 --> 01:34:44,987
Speaker 3: spot and good advantage during the playoffs.

2019
01:34:46,907 --> 01:34:50,747
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. We've really started a couple of meetings today,

2020
01:34:51,667 --> 01:34:54,907
Speaker 9: leadership meetings and obviously coaches meetings just to play in

2021
01:34:54,947 --> 01:34:58,587
Speaker 9: the week out Friday night is on the team that's

2022
01:34:58,627 --> 01:35:01,387
Speaker 9: been pretty unlucky. You know, they should have won last

2023
01:35:01,387 --> 01:35:06,587
Speaker 9: week and the week before against the hurricane, so you

2024
01:35:06,667 --> 01:35:10,227
Speaker 9: know they're not far away. And I think had about

2025
01:35:10,267 --> 01:35:13,107
Speaker 9: ten or eleven bonus points, are losing bonus points for

2026
01:35:13,387 --> 01:35:16,747
Speaker 9: being within seven points, so they are a real tough

2027
01:35:16,827 --> 01:35:20,507
Speaker 9: team to crack and I know they'll be very motivated

2028
01:35:20,587 --> 01:35:25,307
Speaker 9: to find of their season on the high, so you know,

2029
01:35:25,467 --> 01:35:27,387
Speaker 9: we'll prepare accordingly.

2030
01:35:27,987 --> 01:35:30,227
Speaker 3: How's Clayton McMullan bean in the last little while, We

2031
01:35:30,307 --> 01:35:33,307
Speaker 3: know he's going. If you didn't know, would you know?

2032
01:35:35,467 --> 01:35:39,227
Speaker 9: And there's Bau. We were as coaches who were kind

2033
01:35:39,267 --> 01:35:43,587
Speaker 9: of we're just carrying on with our job, and we

2034
01:35:43,707 --> 01:35:49,547
Speaker 9: spoke about it early doors around when he was, you know,

2035
01:35:49,867 --> 01:35:53,027
Speaker 9: considering going and decided to go, that we're just concentrating

2036
01:35:53,067 --> 01:35:59,267
Speaker 9: their roles and by the smart remark every now and then,

2037
01:35:59,347 --> 01:36:02,427
Speaker 9: all jokes that we that coaches or players give out,

2038
01:36:02,507 --> 01:36:05,907
Speaker 9: it's s Yeah, carrying on with business as usual and

2039
01:36:07,067 --> 01:36:10,107
Speaker 9: just trying to We know what our goals and all

2040
01:36:10,147 --> 01:36:13,227
Speaker 9: of other teams, so we're just focusing on that.

2041
01:36:14,267 --> 01:36:16,907
Speaker 3: And we saw him one anotherwa go off early in

2042
01:36:16,947 --> 01:36:20,027
Speaker 3: the game last night. He reportedly went to hospital. Any

2043
01:36:20,107 --> 01:36:22,347
Speaker 3: update you've got today from him.

2044
01:36:23,587 --> 01:36:27,947
Speaker 9: He's been stitched up, so tender around there, but hopefully

2045
01:36:27,987 --> 01:36:32,187
Speaker 9: it's not too bad. So yeah, just a wounded to

2046
01:36:32,267 --> 01:36:35,947
Speaker 9: let the look after as a as above's top under

2047
01:36:35,987 --> 01:36:39,507
Speaker 9: of nose, so it's a big delicate place, so we'll

2048
01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:41,267
Speaker 9: see how he pulls up over the next couple of days.

2049
01:36:41,787 --> 01:36:43,867
Speaker 3: All right, Roger, Well, congrats on a big win last

2050
01:36:43,947 --> 01:36:45,587
Speaker 3: night and a great performance from your team. Hope you

2051
01:36:45,587 --> 01:36:47,907
Speaker 3: can get the job done down in Dunedin and go

2052
01:36:48,067 --> 01:36:50,507
Speaker 3: into the playoffs as top qualify mate. All the best

2053
01:36:50,547 --> 01:36:51,747
Speaker 3: and thanks for the chat this afternoon.

2054
01:36:52,507 --> 01:36:53,147
Speaker 9: No, I appreciate it.

2055
01:36:53,227 --> 01:36:56,107
Speaker 3: No, appreciate your time, Roger. Thanks indeed, Roger Randall, assistant

2056
01:36:56,147 --> 01:36:58,987
Speaker 3: coach of the Chiefs. There so one round to go

2057
01:36:59,867 --> 01:37:03,107
Speaker 3: next weekend before we have our top six who will

2058
01:37:03,147 --> 01:37:06,507
Speaker 3: go forward to the finals, the playoffs, the postseason, if

2059
01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:08,587
Speaker 3: you want to call it. Looking at the table, currently

2060
01:37:08,587 --> 01:37:10,347
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have gone back to the top with that

2061
01:37:10,507 --> 01:37:14,267
Speaker 3: bonus point win they've got forty six points, the Crusaders

2062
01:37:14,307 --> 01:37:17,907
Speaker 3: have forty five, the Brumbis have forty three. Now the

2063
01:37:17,987 --> 01:37:22,267
Speaker 3: Crusaders and Brumbies play one another next in fact, this

2064
01:37:22,427 --> 01:37:27,987
Speaker 3: coming Friday in Canberra, so whoever wins that game could

2065
01:37:28,067 --> 01:37:31,547
Speaker 3: potentially finish top if the Chiefs don't beat the Highlanders.

2066
01:37:32,187 --> 01:37:34,107
Speaker 3: Now they'll know that by the time they kick off,

2067
01:37:34,147 --> 01:37:36,027
Speaker 3: because that's the opening game of the weekend. Highland as

2068
01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:40,867
Speaker 3: Chiefs five past seven Friday night in Dunedin. The Highlanders

2069
01:37:40,947 --> 01:37:44,667
Speaker 3: are currently bottom equal on points with the Druer with

2070
01:37:44,827 --> 01:37:47,347
Speaker 3: twenty points, so they can't make the six but what

2071
01:37:47,467 --> 01:37:49,547
Speaker 3: they can do is at least finish with a bit

2072
01:37:49,587 --> 01:37:55,947
Speaker 3: of a flourish Saturday is such an interesting day. So Chiefs, Crusaders, Brombi's.

2073
01:37:55,947 --> 01:37:58,587
Speaker 3: They're in the top six. They can't fall out of

2074
01:37:58,707 --> 01:38:01,507
Speaker 3: the top six. The Hurricanes cannot fall out of the

2075
01:38:01,587 --> 01:38:04,507
Speaker 3: top six either. They have thirty four points. The Reds

2076
01:38:04,547 --> 01:38:06,707
Speaker 3: have thirty three. They cannot fall out of the top

2077
01:38:06,787 --> 01:38:09,387
Speaker 3: six either. So we've got five of the top six.

2078
01:38:10,867 --> 01:38:12,827
Speaker 3: The sixth position is going to be taken by one

2079
01:38:12,907 --> 01:38:17,107
Speaker 3: of Mawanna Pacifica, the Blues or the war Retars. Now

2080
01:38:17,187 --> 01:38:21,547
Speaker 3: the Blues and Waratars play one another on Saturday at

2081
01:38:21,587 --> 01:38:24,427
Speaker 3: half past four. The war Retars, if they were to

2082
01:38:24,507 --> 01:38:28,307
Speaker 3: beat the Blues, would jump above them and Mawanna Pacifica,

2083
01:38:29,147 --> 01:38:31,467
Speaker 3: but Malwaanna Pacificas still have to play the Hurricanes. So

2084
01:38:31,547 --> 01:38:33,907
Speaker 3: the war Tars can still make the six if they

2085
01:38:33,987 --> 01:38:36,667
Speaker 3: come to Eden Park and beat the Blues, which given

2086
01:38:36,707 --> 01:38:38,147
Speaker 3: the way the Blues have been playing this season a

2087
01:38:38,187 --> 01:38:41,547
Speaker 3: but up and down wouldn't be a massive massive shop.

2088
01:38:41,947 --> 01:38:44,787
Speaker 3: If the Wartars beat the Blues and then the Hurricanes

2089
01:38:44,827 --> 01:38:47,427
Speaker 3: beat Mauna Pacifica, the Warritars make the six and we

2090
01:38:47,467 --> 01:38:51,427
Speaker 3: would have an even three to three split in the

2091
01:38:51,467 --> 01:38:55,187
Speaker 3: top six Australian and New Zealand sides. If the Blues

2092
01:38:55,307 --> 01:38:59,307
Speaker 3: were to beat the war Retars, they would jump into

2093
01:38:59,347 --> 01:39:02,627
Speaker 3: the top six, and then Mawauna Pacifica would need to

2094
01:39:02,707 --> 01:39:05,587
Speaker 3: beat the Hurricanes in order to go past the Blues.

2095
01:39:05,667 --> 01:39:08,147
Speaker 3: So it's all going to come down to that final

2096
01:39:08,747 --> 01:39:13,747
Speaker 3: afternoon Blues Warratars four thirty next Saturday, Hurricanes more on

2097
01:39:13,827 --> 01:39:17,187
Speaker 3: a Pacifica five past seven next Saturday. Don't forget that

2098
01:39:17,307 --> 01:39:20,107
Speaker 3: all games involving New Zealand sides. So, in other words,

2099
01:39:20,187 --> 01:39:23,867
Speaker 3: Heiland as Chiefs Brumby's Crusaders, Blues Waratars and Hurricanes more

2100
01:39:23,867 --> 01:39:26,627
Speaker 3: on a PACIFICA commentary of all of those games available

2101
01:39:26,987 --> 01:39:31,187
Speaker 3: via gold Sport and iHeartRadio. You can find it on

2102
01:39:31,267 --> 01:39:34,187
Speaker 3: the app and keep up to date with Super Rugby Pacific.

2103
01:39:34,267 --> 01:39:38,147
Speaker 3: And then in we will go to the quarterfinals, semi

2104
01:39:38,187 --> 01:39:40,507
Speaker 3: finals and finals. I'm not going to try and explain

2105
01:39:40,987 --> 01:39:44,067
Speaker 3: again the top six to you, not now, anyway I'll

2106
01:39:44,107 --> 01:39:46,267
Speaker 3: do it. I'll do it next week once we know

2107
01:39:46,307 --> 01:39:48,627
Speaker 3: who the top six are. Next Sunday we'll know who

2108
01:39:48,707 --> 01:39:50,187
Speaker 3: the top six are and I'll be able to explain

2109
01:39:50,187 --> 01:39:52,067
Speaker 3: it to you. But one thing I can tell you

2110
01:39:52,627 --> 01:39:55,947
Speaker 3: is if you finish top, you can't be knocked out

2111
01:39:56,107 --> 01:40:00,587
Speaker 3: in the first round of the playoffs, all right, So

2112
01:40:00,787 --> 01:40:05,227
Speaker 3: whoever finishes top effectively gets themselves our second life. That

2113
01:40:05,387 --> 01:40:08,667
Speaker 3: is the major advance that you're finishing top. If the

2114
01:40:08,747 --> 01:40:11,987
Speaker 3: Chief can beat the Hoghlanders, that'll be them two twenty

2115
01:40:12,027 --> 01:40:15,027
Speaker 3: four oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

2116
01:40:15,027 --> 01:40:19,187
Speaker 3: you want to pass any comment, can I tim O're.

2117
01:40:19,027 --> 01:40:22,747
Speaker 6: Going to final me. Hey they're really disappointed with Auto

2118
01:40:23,827 --> 01:40:27,827
Speaker 6: FC last night, but hey, really proud this season they

2119
01:40:27,907 --> 01:40:31,987
Speaker 6: made it that far. So big kudos to their organization indeed,

2120
01:40:33,947 --> 01:40:36,467
Speaker 6: But what I wanted to talk about is these permutations

2121
01:40:37,107 --> 01:40:40,187
Speaker 6: for Super Rugby. Yep, man, it's going to be an

2122
01:40:40,227 --> 01:40:45,347
Speaker 6: interesting Saturday. The Hurricanes shoot up their spot against the Reds.

2123
01:40:45,427 --> 01:40:49,427
Speaker 6: But then again, the Hurricanes, they probably want to finish fourth,

2124
01:40:50,387 --> 01:40:52,987
Speaker 6: so they'll be gunning for that victory because they'll ensure

2125
01:40:53,027 --> 01:40:55,347
Speaker 6: that they get a home quarter final and a life

2126
01:40:55,947 --> 01:40:58,387
Speaker 6: because if you've seen the finals series, that top four

2127
01:40:59,347 --> 01:41:00,827
Speaker 6: they actually get a life if they lose.

2128
01:41:01,267 --> 01:41:03,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only that, but it's only a top six now, tim,

2129
01:41:04,067 --> 01:41:07,787
Speaker 3: So the Hurricanes wouldn't get a home final for finishing fourth.

2130
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Speaker 3: There are only three games that would It goes one

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Speaker 3: v six, two v five, three v four. So there's

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Speaker 3: no quarter finals this year, so you got to finish

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Speaker 3: in the Yeah, so the Hurricanes can't host it. They

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Speaker 3: can't host a I mean quarter finals even the wrong

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Speaker 3: word for it because that would suggest there are eight teams.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you still want to finish as high as

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01:41:27,547 --> 01:41:31,827
Speaker 3: you can. Hurricanes. Beating Mowana would also obviously give them

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01:41:31,907 --> 01:41:35,787
Speaker 3: momentum going in and would probably knock Morewana out because

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Speaker 3: one of the warritors of the Blues would go past them.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's going to be interesting. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: think it would be a massive surprise if the Warritors

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Speaker 6: did beat the Blues, because I think they've lost the

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Speaker 6: last eleven or twelve to the Blues. Yes, saying that

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Speaker 6: the Blues haven't been that great, but it'd even park.

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Speaker 6: You know, you'd hope that some of these stars would

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01:41:56,387 --> 01:41:59,707
Speaker 6: turn up, especially with Ricertelly there and in his final season.

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Speaker 6: But I think after watching the Chiefs last night, there've

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Speaker 6: been you know, bride'smaids that last couple of years or

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01:42:08,267 --> 01:42:11,427
Speaker 6: in and around the top four. Surely this has to

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Speaker 6: be the year.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with you. I absolutely one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent nod my head to that. Surely it has to

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Speaker 3: be the year. The Crusaders have been good this year,

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01:42:21,067 --> 01:42:23,267
Speaker 3: yes they have, but the Chiefs look if they can

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01:42:23,347 --> 01:42:25,067
Speaker 3: sow up top spot, which they should by betting the

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01:42:25,147 --> 01:42:28,187
Speaker 3: Highlanders have been pretty underwhelming and dneda on Friday night,

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs should absolutely win Super Rugby this year. They

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Speaker 3: absolutely have everything. But then you look back to the

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Speaker 3: football last night, matte and we you and I and

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Speaker 3: many others probably thought that Auckland, fy, We're going to

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Speaker 3: win the a league.

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Speaker 6: Well exactly, mate, We never know and the Chiefs have

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01:42:43,827 --> 01:42:44,427
Speaker 6: been there before.

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Speaker 3: They have last two years, last two years I've been

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Speaker 3: in the final. Yeah I know.

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Speaker 6: I just want to make a shout out to Simon Baker,

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01:42:50,827 --> 01:42:53,667
Speaker 6: the number six for the Chiefs. I think he's molding

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01:42:53,787 --> 01:42:57,747
Speaker 6: himself very well into the conversation for an all black spot.

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Speaker 6: He just really plays their position.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 6: He's a big lead too, I think six foot six one,

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01:43:03,427 --> 01:43:06,587
Speaker 6: fifteen kigs. So you know, if there's a numbers six

2173
01:43:06,667 --> 01:43:09,307
Speaker 6: in mind, we need the Michael Simon Parker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a big boppa. Good on your term. Always love

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01:43:11,107 --> 01:43:13,427
Speaker 3: chatting rugby with you, mate, you make some great observations.

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Speaker 3: Please keep in touch to twenty six on News Talks Hebbay.

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Speaker 3: When we come back. It's the President of the International

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Speaker 3: Paralympic Committee, Andrew Parsons, who's been on New Zealand this

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Speaker 3: last few days, going to chat to us here on

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport.

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01:43:25,827 --> 01:43:27,627
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game.

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01:43:27,987 --> 01:43:32,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Yin and TJ Garnerhomes New Zealand's

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01:43:32,667 --> 01:43:33,787
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

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Speaker 3: News Talks b coming up tow thirty A great pleasure

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Speaker 3: to welcome an International Paralympic Committee President Andrew Parsons, who's

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01:43:40,827 --> 01:43:43,347
Speaker 3: been in New Zealand since the middle of last week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on the show. Andrew, You've had

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Speaker 3: a busy schedule during your time here. What have been

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Speaker 3: some of the highlights of your visit to New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: Well, thank you very much, it's a pleasure. We'll be

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01:43:52,547 --> 01:43:55,867
Speaker 16: talking to you today. Jason. Then, well, I think spending

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Speaker 16: spending time, of course with the athletes here, the parapters

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01:43:59,667 --> 01:44:02,427
Speaker 16: of New Zealand. I just had a meeting with the

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01:44:02,467 --> 01:44:07,627
Speaker 16: Athletes councilman of course, visiting the Minister of Sport in

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01:44:07,827 --> 01:44:12,187
Speaker 16: Wellington and speaking and sport in New Zealand, speaking with

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Speaker 16: some of the partners here, visiting the Governor General. So

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Speaker 16: it was a really packed a few days here. But

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Speaker 16: I think we've done a lot in terms and trying

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Speaker 16: to promote, trying to understand, but also for me to

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01:44:24,307 --> 01:44:28,427
Speaker 16: learn how we can from an International Prolympic Committee perspective,

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Speaker 16: help to strengthen the Paralympic sport movement here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So what are some of the main things that you

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01:44:35,227 --> 01:44:37,187
Speaker 3: have learned during your time here. What have been some

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01:44:37,267 --> 01:44:39,587
Speaker 3: of the most valuable discussions you've had.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think it was obviously with the government and

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01:44:44,907 --> 01:44:47,427
Speaker 16: also the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the sense that

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01:44:47,787 --> 01:44:50,307
Speaker 16: you know, we have this incredible opportunity with twenty thirty

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01:44:50,347 --> 01:44:53,067
Speaker 16: two which is considered by some here in New Zealand

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Speaker 16: as home games, and how to take advantage of that

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Speaker 16: to prepare New Zealand for not only for not only

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01:45:01,027 --> 01:45:03,827
Speaker 16: to win medals and have an incredible performance in twenty

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Speaker 16: thirty two, but how to structure the movement to photogrow

2213
01:45:07,587 --> 01:45:10,067
Speaker 16: after the games in twenty to thirty two. So it's

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Speaker 16: how I think Paralympic sports should be in New Zealand

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01:45:13,067 --> 01:45:17,107
Speaker 16: twenty thirty three on. So, speaking with the different bodies

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01:45:17,147 --> 01:45:19,947
Speaker 16: here such as of course the National Paralympic Committee is

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01:45:19,947 --> 01:45:25,707
Speaker 16: Sport New Zealand, Minister Sport again, the Minister of Foreign Affairs,

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01:45:25,867 --> 01:45:30,427
Speaker 16: and the sponsors and commercial partners where they want to

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01:45:30,427 --> 01:45:33,227
Speaker 16: see this movement and of course projecting that speaking with

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Speaker 16: the athletes. So I think to understand that long term

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01:45:36,387 --> 01:45:40,347
Speaker 16: strategy of Paralympics New Zealand was key for me, as

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Speaker 16: President of the International Polympic Committee to understand, because of

2223
01:45:43,027 --> 01:45:45,427
Speaker 16: course we want these games to be games for this

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01:45:45,627 --> 01:45:49,787
Speaker 16: region for Oceania, and we see Paralympic the New Zealand

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01:45:49,867 --> 01:45:53,187
Speaker 16: as most probably one of the big engines in order

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01:45:53,267 --> 01:45:55,467
Speaker 16: to promote Paralympic sport here in the region.

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Speaker 3: And I know you've had the chance to meet and

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01:45:57,947 --> 01:46:00,827
Speaker 3: spend time with a number of our Paralympians during your

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01:46:00,907 --> 01:46:03,667
Speaker 3: time here. I say you're going to breakfast with Adam Hole,

2230
01:46:03,787 --> 01:46:07,307
Speaker 3: Cameron Lesley and Enter Grimaldi on Thursday. How much do

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01:46:07,347 --> 01:46:11,067
Speaker 3: you enjoy actually speaking with the athletes themselves on on

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01:46:11,667 --> 01:46:12,427
Speaker 3: on trips like this.

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Speaker 16: It's the most rewarding part of a visit like this

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01:46:17,587 --> 01:46:21,787
Speaker 16: because look, but Jason we as a sports administrator, as

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01:46:21,827 --> 01:46:24,507
Speaker 16: Paul leader, we I have learned very early in my

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01:46:25,347 --> 01:46:29,147
Speaker 16: career we are here to serve the athletes and help

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Speaker 16: them to get from you know, grassroots to elite and

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Speaker 16: and also when it comes to pur Olympic women to

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01:46:34,987 --> 01:46:38,147
Speaker 16: leave a long lasted legacy in society and you know

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Speaker 16: by what they do in the field of play. So

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Speaker 16: getting the feedback from the athletes and some of the

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01:46:43,707 --> 01:46:47,547
Speaker 16: initiatives of the International Proalympic Committee and understanding a couple

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01:46:48,107 --> 01:46:50,667
Speaker 16: a little bit more about the challenge they face here

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01:46:51,307 --> 01:46:54,267
Speaker 16: in this country and it's just amazing. It's just a

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01:46:54,347 --> 01:46:56,267
Speaker 16: great you know, I learned every time I speak with them.

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Speaker 16: I just had a long conversation now with Cameron Leslie

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01:46:59,627 --> 01:47:03,027
Speaker 16: about his role in in New Zealand swimming and how

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01:47:03,067 --> 01:47:08,067
Speaker 16: he's finding new para swimmers and the integration process into

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01:47:08,667 --> 01:47:12,107
Speaker 16: Enable Body Federation. So it's a very good learning opportunity.

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Speaker 16: And you know, when the feedback is positive, of course

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Speaker 16: it's really it makes me really happy. And when it's

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01:47:17,907 --> 01:47:20,507
Speaker 16: not that positive, it's something you know that I take note,

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01:47:20,587 --> 01:47:23,867
Speaker 16: I learned and we try to to to act upon it.

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Speaker 3: We are very proud of our rich Paralympic history and heritage.

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Speaker 3: We regularly, I think, anyway, punch above our weight on

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Speaker 3: the world stage at Paralympic Games and other competitions. I

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01:47:35,907 --> 01:47:40,227
Speaker 3: think our our you know, middles per capita at Paralympic

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01:47:40,307 --> 01:47:42,827
Speaker 3: Games is right up there. Have you been able to

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01:47:43,267 --> 01:47:46,187
Speaker 3: uncover anyr reasons why we might be so good for

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Speaker 3: the size of the country that we are.

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Speaker 16: I think it's a combination of things, to be honest,

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01:47:51,627 --> 01:47:55,027
Speaker 16: I think it's a it's a good good sport management.

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01:47:55,067 --> 01:47:58,267
Speaker 16: Of course, the natural talent of the assets here in

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Speaker 16: New Zealand, but you know some of the programs I

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01:48:02,027 --> 01:48:07,467
Speaker 16: think the promotional piece and that you know for Olympics

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01:48:07,507 --> 01:48:11,387
Speaker 16: New Zealand can did in the lead up to games

2267
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Speaker 16: like Paris and games like Tokyo. I think it's a

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01:48:13,947 --> 01:48:16,987
Speaker 16: combination of things. And probably you know it's a county

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01:48:17,067 --> 01:48:20,427
Speaker 16: that's sportsman, so I think then you know persons with

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01:48:20,507 --> 01:48:23,627
Speaker 16: disability are no different. So I think you have good

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01:48:23,867 --> 01:48:27,067
Speaker 16: let's say, natural talent and good work around that talent,

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01:48:27,187 --> 01:48:30,067
Speaker 16: developing the talent into uses like the ones you mentioned

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01:48:30,147 --> 01:48:35,147
Speaker 16: now and Agremordi, Adam Hall and so on. So I

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Speaker 16: cannot even if I have founder recipient, Jason, I will

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01:48:38,507 --> 01:48:41,547
Speaker 16: not share it with anyone else because I really like

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01:48:41,627 --> 01:48:44,627
Speaker 16: to see q Is performing like that at the world stage.

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01:48:45,707 --> 01:48:48,787
Speaker 16: But yeah, it's just been great experience here learning more

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01:48:48,787 --> 01:48:53,067
Speaker 16: about the country also, and yeah, really really really good

2279
01:48:53,107 --> 01:48:56,747
Speaker 16: experience back three days but really really good learning and

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01:48:57,627 --> 01:49:01,227
Speaker 16: go into a competition later on today. So fantastic three days.

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Speaker 3: Can I just ask you from a wider scene, how strong,

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Speaker 3: how strong do you believe the transformative power of the

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01:49:09,067 --> 01:49:11,747
Speaker 3: Paralympic Games and power sport can be.

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01:49:13,947 --> 01:49:16,107
Speaker 16: Look, I think it's that's a huge potential, and I

2285
01:49:16,187 --> 01:49:19,107
Speaker 16: think we are just probably scratching the surface. I think

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01:49:19,187 --> 01:49:23,507
Speaker 16: in Paris we we we position the Problempic movement as

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01:49:23,987 --> 01:49:28,667
Speaker 16: really a sport movement or that that is also part

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01:49:28,707 --> 01:49:34,467
Speaker 16: of a wider probably human rights disability movement. So if

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Speaker 16: you think that the Problempic Games is the only event

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Speaker 16: of global impact that put persons with disabilities center stage,

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01:49:42,027 --> 01:49:44,267
Speaker 16: and I'm not talking on about sport. If you think

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01:49:44,307 --> 01:49:47,667
Speaker 16: an education, coach of politics, art or whatever, is the

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01:49:47,707 --> 01:49:52,827
Speaker 16: Paralympic Games, uh the event that helps to move forward

2294
01:49:52,867 --> 01:49:57,307
Speaker 16: the agenda of the international movement of person with disability.

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01:49:57,347 --> 01:50:00,587
Speaker 16: I think what what we do for this movement is huge,

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01:50:00,667 --> 01:50:05,227
Speaker 16: but it can always have an even greater impact. And

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Speaker 16: I think one of the chart that we have is,

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01:50:07,947 --> 01:50:10,907
Speaker 16: of course the impact in Paris and in France was huge,

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01:50:10,987 --> 01:50:13,227
Speaker 16: but of course how we can maximize the fact that,

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01:50:14,067 --> 01:50:17,187
Speaker 16: for example in la what the athletes will do on

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01:50:17,227 --> 01:50:19,707
Speaker 16: the field of lay there can have an impact when

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Speaker 16: it comes to for example, in New Zealand, in South America,

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01:50:23,307 --> 01:50:26,467
Speaker 16: in Southeast Asia, in different parts of the world outside

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Speaker 16: of the host nation. I think that's the next step

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01:50:30,107 --> 01:50:34,147
Speaker 16: for US, is the next level for US maximizing the

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Speaker 16: again the Paralympic Games outside the host nation.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful to chat to you, Andrew at so great to

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01:50:42,507 --> 01:50:44,267
Speaker 3: have you here in New Zealand. I'm so pleased you've

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01:50:44,307 --> 01:50:46,907
Speaker 3: enjoyed your trip and had the chance to make some

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01:50:47,027 --> 01:50:50,107
Speaker 3: of our Paralympics and others involved in Paralympic sport here

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01:50:50,307 --> 01:50:52,947
Speaker 3: Sive travels. I believe you're off to Vanuatu next.

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Speaker 16: I'm off to Vanuatu, yeah, today, and then I'm two

2313
01:51:00,147 --> 01:51:02,387
Speaker 16: three days there, then going to Brisbane of course to

2314
01:51:03,147 --> 01:51:07,027
Speaker 16: work with the Organizing Committee and some of the local

2315
01:51:07,947 --> 01:51:10,947
Speaker 16: and regionable and national authorities there in preparations for the

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Speaker 16: Games in twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Save travels, and thank you again for your time this afternoon.

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Speaker 16: Thank you very much as.

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01:51:17,107 --> 01:51:20,587
Speaker 3: Andrew Parson's International Paralympic Committee President on his time in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand over the last week or so twenty three

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Speaker 3: to three. When we come back, our coaching guru Wayne

2322
01:51:26,187 --> 01:51:28,747
Speaker 3: Goldsmith with some great tips on how to coach a

2323
01:51:28,867 --> 01:51:30,907
Speaker 3: REP team the tough.

2324
01:51:30,747 --> 01:51:34,987
Speaker 2: Questions off the turf. Weekend Sport with Jason Tyne and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

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Speaker 3: Coming up nineteen to three. Regular listeners to the show

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01:51:42,107 --> 01:51:44,187
Speaker 3: will know that on a regular basis we get the

2328
01:51:44,227 --> 01:51:48,107
Speaker 3: benefit of the wisdom of our coaching guru, Wayne Goldsmith. Wayne,

2329
01:51:48,147 --> 01:51:51,627
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us in your regular slot. I wanted

2330
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Speaker 3: to talk today about REP teams with state of origin

2331
01:51:54,227 --> 01:51:56,307
Speaker 3: in the week ahead, the British and Irish lines about

2332
01:51:56,307 --> 01:51:59,227
Speaker 3: to head down Under and the challenges of pulling together

2333
01:51:59,307 --> 01:52:01,587
Speaker 3: players from a bunch of different places and trying to

2334
01:52:02,307 --> 01:52:04,867
Speaker 3: mesh them effectively. What is the best way, in general

2335
01:52:04,987 --> 01:52:08,507
Speaker 3: terms to start with to bring together players from different

2336
01:52:08,547 --> 01:52:13,787
Speaker 3: teams into a unified, cohesive unit often worth very limited time.

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Speaker 10: Well, the word you use there is the key Pinty

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01:52:17,427 --> 01:52:22,747
Speaker 10: is unified. Is when you've got a group of people

2339
01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:25,627
Speaker 10: coming together that have been selected in a REP team,

2340
01:52:25,667 --> 01:52:29,427
Speaker 10: who are going to play other great players. It's not

2341
01:52:29,787 --> 01:52:32,547
Speaker 10: really an issue of talent and it's certainly not an

2342
01:52:32,627 --> 01:52:36,627
Speaker 10: issue of motivation and will. It's figuring out what have

2343
01:52:36,747 --> 01:52:40,507
Speaker 10: I got to do to unify this group and get

2344
01:52:40,547 --> 01:52:42,667
Speaker 10: them all heading in the one direction and doing it

2345
01:52:42,787 --> 01:52:45,747
Speaker 10: in a way which allows them to play to their

2346
01:52:45,787 --> 01:52:46,547
Speaker 10: full potential.

2347
01:52:47,187 --> 01:52:48,627
Speaker 28: And you know, in the past some.

2348
01:52:48,867 --> 01:52:50,787
Speaker 10: Coaches have gone, well, I'm going to bring them in,

2349
01:52:52,507 --> 01:52:55,827
Speaker 10: got a model, and I'll make everybody play to my model,

2350
01:52:55,907 --> 01:52:58,867
Speaker 10: my system, and then other coaches will go, well, you know,

2351
01:52:59,507 --> 01:53:03,267
Speaker 10: instead of me telling them what I want them to

2352
01:53:03,347 --> 01:53:06,027
Speaker 10: do for me or to play my way, the smarter

2353
01:53:06,147 --> 01:53:08,827
Speaker 10: way to go seems to be to get to know

2354
01:53:08,987 --> 01:53:12,067
Speaker 10: the players really well and understand them almost as well

2355
01:53:12,627 --> 01:53:16,187
Speaker 10: as their home coach will, and then in that context,

2356
01:53:16,387 --> 01:53:20,107
Speaker 10: creating an environment where they can really play at their

2357
01:53:20,187 --> 01:53:24,227
Speaker 10: full potential, but within that single focus. But yeah, it's

2358
01:53:24,227 --> 01:53:26,587
Speaker 10: a tricky one because, as you say, coot, often they've

2359
01:53:26,627 --> 01:53:27,667
Speaker 10: got no time to do it.

2360
01:53:29,187 --> 01:53:32,227
Speaker 3: Just on the time factor. Then what is the best

2361
01:53:32,387 --> 01:53:35,227
Speaker 3: use of limited time and a situation like this, what

2362
01:53:35,307 --> 01:53:37,227
Speaker 3: should I mean there must be one hundred things you

2363
01:53:37,347 --> 01:53:40,907
Speaker 3: could focus on. What are the most valuable things to

2364
01:53:41,147 --> 01:53:41,627
Speaker 3: focus on?

2365
01:53:43,227 --> 01:53:43,427
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2366
01:53:43,707 --> 01:53:46,947
Speaker 10: I think the general belief, and that you haven't talked

2367
01:53:46,947 --> 01:53:50,307
Speaker 10: to a lot of REP team coaches over the years,

2368
01:53:51,027 --> 01:53:53,227
Speaker 10: is you've got to make some assumptions. So you know,

2369
01:53:53,267 --> 01:53:56,747
Speaker 10: if you're coaching at club level, there's an assumption that

2370
01:53:56,907 --> 01:54:00,027
Speaker 10: you can improve fitness, and there's an assumption you're going

2371
01:54:00,067 --> 01:54:04,867
Speaker 10: to improve skill level, and you're working on all these things.

2372
01:54:05,147 --> 01:54:07,267
Speaker 10: I think you've got the best the best. You've got

2373
01:54:07,307 --> 01:54:09,467
Speaker 10: to assume they can catch a ball. You've got to

2374
01:54:09,547 --> 01:54:12,547
Speaker 10: assume they can pass a ball. You can make some

2375
01:54:12,707 --> 01:54:16,707
Speaker 10: assumptions about things that you don't have to do and

2376
01:54:16,787 --> 01:54:18,947
Speaker 10: you can eliminate them. So so well, you know, we

2377
01:54:19,067 --> 01:54:20,947
Speaker 10: might do a little bit of skills work in practice,

2378
01:54:21,107 --> 01:54:23,427
Speaker 10: but we don't have to do that because these are

2379
01:54:23,467 --> 01:54:25,907
Speaker 10: the best players in the game. So we don't have

2380
01:54:26,027 --> 01:54:29,387
Speaker 10: to do a lot of basic stuff or speed work

2381
01:54:29,507 --> 01:54:30,227
Speaker 10: or conditioning.

2382
01:54:30,627 --> 01:54:32,587
Speaker 28: You don't have to do any of that stuff.

2383
01:54:32,747 --> 01:54:35,667
Speaker 10: In the majority of REP teams because you're going to assume.

2384
01:54:35,427 --> 01:54:36,027
Speaker 18: They're doing that.

2385
01:54:36,187 --> 01:54:39,747
Speaker 10: Anyway, The things that matter that you've got to prioritize. Okay,

2386
01:54:39,827 --> 01:54:41,467
Speaker 10: what are the things that are going to stop us

2387
01:54:41,507 --> 01:54:46,667
Speaker 10: from winning. They're going to be skill execution in that environment,

2388
01:54:46,747 --> 01:54:48,947
Speaker 10: so that's a mental and a physical thing. Or it's

2389
01:54:48,987 --> 01:54:52,227
Speaker 10: going to be cohesion of playmakers. So if you look

2390
01:54:52,267 --> 01:54:54,907
Speaker 10: at U South Wales in the current state of ourgent team,

2391
01:54:55,547 --> 01:54:59,627
Speaker 10: they've got playmaker Cleary, they've got playmaker Moses. They've got

2392
01:54:59,747 --> 01:55:04,667
Speaker 10: people who are normally running the show developing the players

2393
01:55:05,147 --> 01:55:07,547
Speaker 10: who are directing play around the field, who are now

2394
01:55:07,667 --> 01:55:12,347
Speaker 10: side by side. The message, the best message I've ever

2395
01:55:12,427 --> 01:55:14,987
Speaker 10: got on this from a REP coaching friend of mine.

2396
01:55:15,107 --> 01:55:19,187
Speaker 10: He just said two words, simplify, clarify. He said, don't

2397
01:55:19,307 --> 01:55:23,387
Speaker 10: over complicate these guys, don't over coach them, don't be

2398
01:55:23,547 --> 01:55:28,027
Speaker 10: overly hung up on detailed game plans. Simplify the situation

2399
01:55:28,147 --> 01:55:31,867
Speaker 10: in the environment and clarify it because they will then

2400
01:55:31,987 --> 01:55:35,387
Speaker 10: do the rest. The biggest mistaken I think he's totally

2401
01:55:35,507 --> 01:55:40,107
Speaker 10: right REP coaches make is they over complicate the REP

2402
01:55:40,347 --> 01:55:44,307
Speaker 10: environment believing that they've got to do something extraordinary or different.

2403
01:55:44,747 --> 01:55:47,347
Speaker 10: I think it's the It's a great case and argument

2404
01:55:47,627 --> 01:55:48,707
Speaker 10: for under coaching.

2405
01:55:49,667 --> 01:55:52,867
Speaker 3: Simplify, clarify. A lot of businesses could take note of

2406
01:55:52,907 --> 01:55:55,987
Speaker 3: that as well, and I'm sure some writing notes as

2407
01:55:56,027 --> 01:55:58,307
Speaker 3: they listen to you say the words. The nature of

2408
01:55:58,347 --> 01:56:00,747
Speaker 3: REP teams as well, Wayane, is that they often bring

2409
01:56:00,827 --> 01:56:04,347
Speaker 3: together players who are captains at their club, and, if

2410
01:56:04,427 --> 01:56:07,747
Speaker 3: not captains, certainly part of the leadership team at their

2411
01:56:07,787 --> 01:56:10,747
Speaker 3: clubs because they are so good, they're often seeing your players.

2412
01:56:11,227 --> 01:56:14,387
Speaker 3: How do you manage the too many Chiefs and not

2413
01:56:14,587 --> 01:56:16,947
Speaker 3: enough Indians syndrome and a REP team?

2414
01:56:18,027 --> 01:56:21,547
Speaker 10: Yeah again, point it's I know it does them simplify,

2415
01:56:21,667 --> 01:56:24,787
Speaker 10: say simplify, but that's really, what it comes down to

2416
01:56:24,987 --> 01:56:29,027
Speaker 10: is when they're in their team, their role, one of

2417
01:56:29,067 --> 01:56:32,227
Speaker 10: their main roles is to lead the team to make

2418
01:56:32,307 --> 01:56:35,307
Speaker 10: the key decisions about how they were they going to

2419
01:56:35,387 --> 01:56:37,627
Speaker 10: take a penalty or whatever it might be, but they're

2420
01:56:37,627 --> 01:56:38,427
Speaker 10: going to make those.

2421
01:56:38,307 --> 01:56:40,347
Speaker 3: Key on field decisions.

2422
01:56:40,627 --> 01:56:43,587
Speaker 10: I think the key is getting them together, getting the

2423
01:56:43,667 --> 01:56:45,547
Speaker 10: leaders together and say, right, guys, how are we going

2424
01:56:45,587 --> 01:56:48,107
Speaker 10: to make this work? The quarte offen or have found

2425
01:56:49,147 --> 01:56:52,027
Speaker 10: that the players have already figured it out. So I

2426
01:56:52,147 --> 01:56:55,227
Speaker 10: have no doubt saying New South Wales for example, and

2427
01:56:55,587 --> 01:56:58,507
Speaker 10: Queensland have just masters at it with the people that

2428
01:56:58,627 --> 01:57:01,387
Speaker 10: they've got as well, and in all rep teams, quite

2429
01:57:01,427 --> 01:57:04,667
Speaker 10: often the players have already got a solution that they

2430
01:57:04,747 --> 01:57:06,467
Speaker 10: will come to you with. And I think that's the

2431
01:57:06,547 --> 01:57:10,707
Speaker 10: beauty of the modern era is that we've gone from

2432
01:57:10,747 --> 01:57:13,067
Speaker 10: a coach sitting there and figuring out right, you will

2433
01:57:13,107 --> 01:57:16,187
Speaker 10: do that, and you will do that, and then hoping

2434
01:57:16,267 --> 01:57:19,707
Speaker 10: it works. The beautiful thing we've got now, Ponty, with

2435
01:57:19,787 --> 01:57:24,107
Speaker 10: this player empowerment model that you see all over the world,

2436
01:57:24,227 --> 01:57:26,147
Speaker 10: is it quite often the players have already out of

2437
01:57:26,187 --> 01:57:29,907
Speaker 10: coffee and or hopefully not too many beers, but they've

2438
01:57:29,907 --> 01:57:32,027
Speaker 10: already had a meeting and said how are we going to.

2439
01:57:32,027 --> 01:57:32,587
Speaker 18: Make this work?

2440
01:57:33,187 --> 01:57:35,987
Speaker 10: And they will go to the coaches and say, listen,

2441
01:57:36,107 --> 01:57:38,907
Speaker 10: we're then thinking about this. We know each other's game,

2442
01:57:39,267 --> 01:57:41,227
Speaker 10: we played each other, and we think the best way

2443
01:57:41,267 --> 01:57:41,787
Speaker 10: forward is this.

2444
01:57:42,187 --> 01:57:42,307
Speaker 29: Now.

2445
01:57:42,347 --> 01:57:44,747
Speaker 10: Of course the coach can say thanks dollars, I'm the coach,

2446
01:57:44,827 --> 01:57:48,587
Speaker 10: I'm running the show. But what I see, certainly with

2447
01:57:49,267 --> 01:57:52,867
Speaker 10: modern coaches, is they're going if I'll let these guys

2448
01:57:53,027 --> 01:57:57,187
Speaker 10: know what they're doing, assuming that they're there because they're extraordinary,

2449
01:57:57,747 --> 01:58:00,867
Speaker 10: and they'll come to you with solutions. That's the player

2450
01:58:00,987 --> 01:58:04,667
Speaker 10: generated solutions quite offen the best and then the smart

2451
01:58:05,387 --> 01:58:08,107
Speaker 10: you know what, it's a pretty good idea. I've also

2452
01:58:09,427 --> 01:58:11,627
Speaker 10: what do you guys think about this? And they'll work

2453
01:58:11,707 --> 01:58:15,547
Speaker 10: together with a solution. But I don't think it's a

2454
01:58:15,627 --> 01:58:19,227
Speaker 10: problem like it was about you do what I say,

2455
01:58:19,387 --> 01:58:22,907
Speaker 10: you follow my bill. You see this collaborative approach, and

2456
01:58:22,987 --> 01:58:26,107
Speaker 10: it's all about the players coming up with solutions because

2457
01:58:26,107 --> 01:58:28,147
Speaker 10: in the end they're going to deliver the result.

2458
01:58:29,187 --> 01:58:30,827
Speaker 3: I just want to ask a question, and it doesn't

2459
01:58:30,867 --> 01:58:33,907
Speaker 3: really relate to the origin teams because the only name

2460
01:58:34,027 --> 01:58:37,347
Speaker 3: twenty in their squad, you know, the starting thirteen in

2461
01:58:37,427 --> 01:58:40,187
Speaker 3: the reserves. Sorry to change in the reserves, but in

2462
01:58:40,227 --> 01:58:43,067
Speaker 3: the British and Irish Lions it's a big squad that

2463
01:58:43,307 --> 01:58:46,747
Speaker 3: Andy Farrell has to manage when he brings them down Under.

2464
01:58:47,267 --> 01:58:50,067
Speaker 3: And everybody in the British and Irish Lions squad is

2465
01:58:50,267 --> 01:58:53,107
Speaker 3: used to being a main player for their national team

2466
01:58:53,227 --> 01:58:55,467
Speaker 3: and for their club team. But on a British and

2467
01:58:55,627 --> 01:58:58,347
Speaker 3: Irish Lions tour, some of them are going to be

2468
01:58:58,467 --> 01:59:02,427
Speaker 3: fringe players on that tour. How do you manage those blocks?

2469
01:59:03,707 --> 01:59:06,307
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a really good one, is right at the

2470
01:59:06,507 --> 01:59:09,027
Speaker 10: beginning of the tours. I've been lucky to be involved

2471
01:59:09,027 --> 01:59:12,147
Speaker 10: in a couple of big tours of that nature. But

2472
01:59:12,867 --> 01:59:15,507
Speaker 10: what you've got to do right at the beginning is

2473
01:59:16,507 --> 01:59:20,107
Speaker 10: be very clear again on what is the overall objective

2474
01:59:20,147 --> 01:59:23,547
Speaker 10: of the tour. It is to destroy the Wallabies. That's

2475
01:59:24,107 --> 01:59:28,587
Speaker 10: all that they will be concerned about. And that's the

2476
01:59:28,787 --> 01:59:32,547
Speaker 10: collective focus. That's the goal and objective of the coaches,

2477
01:59:33,107 --> 01:59:37,067
Speaker 10: the doctor, the physios, the massage, the assistant coaches and

2478
01:59:37,147 --> 01:59:41,667
Speaker 10: of course all the players united under that single goal.

2479
01:59:42,187 --> 01:59:43,267
Speaker 3: And within that.

2480
01:59:43,507 --> 01:59:46,627
Speaker 10: Once that's established is that's what we're here to do, guys,

2481
01:59:46,707 --> 01:59:48,987
Speaker 10: it will be no compromises, that's what we're here to do.

2482
01:59:49,827 --> 01:59:51,427
Speaker 10: Then it goes from being.

2483
01:59:51,587 --> 01:59:52,787
Speaker 18: What is our role?

2484
01:59:53,507 --> 01:59:58,547
Speaker 10: And the importance of this I can't stress enough is

2485
01:59:58,627 --> 02:00:01,467
Speaker 10: that everybody in any rep team, even if it's a

2486
02:00:01,547 --> 02:00:07,147
Speaker 10: relatively jenior team, the clarity of roles and responsibility in

2487
02:00:07,307 --> 02:00:10,067
Speaker 10: the achievement of the collective objective. Well, that should be

2488
02:00:10,067 --> 02:00:13,467
Speaker 10: the name of a books, the collective objective, but pattern

2489
02:00:13,547 --> 02:00:17,627
Speaker 10: pended pine golfspit but because someone will pitch that one.

2490
02:00:17,827 --> 02:00:20,787
Speaker 10: But you know that's the thing is to say, as

2491
02:00:20,827 --> 02:00:22,747
Speaker 10: a group, guys, collectively, what are we here to do.

2492
02:00:23,187 --> 02:00:26,467
Speaker 10: We're here to go home through ZIP ideally with the

2493
02:00:26,547 --> 02:00:29,227
Speaker 10: best four and against, to win all the leading games,

2494
02:00:29,747 --> 02:00:32,347
Speaker 10: to be uncompromising and relentless in our execution.

2495
02:00:32,427 --> 02:00:33,187
Speaker 9: Okay, we all get that.

2496
02:00:33,907 --> 02:00:37,747
Speaker 10: What role can you play in order for us to

2497
02:00:38,307 --> 02:00:41,827
Speaker 10: deliver that outcome? And even if you'll player number twenty

2498
02:00:41,907 --> 02:00:44,987
Speaker 10: seven on the selection list, that if your role is

2499
02:00:45,187 --> 02:00:50,107
Speaker 10: to provide a great training environment, support the fifteen and

2500
02:00:50,267 --> 02:00:53,947
Speaker 10: the players on the bench, to drive them hard in training,

2501
02:00:54,427 --> 02:00:57,747
Speaker 10: to play some sort of organization or management role, if

2502
02:00:57,867 --> 02:01:01,627
Speaker 10: that's your role to contribute to the collective outcome, then

2503
02:01:01,707 --> 02:01:04,307
Speaker 10: you do that better than anyone.

2504
02:01:04,227 --> 02:01:04,587
Speaker 9: When I know.

2505
02:01:04,667 --> 02:01:07,387
Speaker 10: When I work with proteins pinty, I'll often say to

2506
02:01:07,507 --> 02:01:12,307
Speaker 10: physiotherapists or nutritionists or sits, I'll say, are you striving

2507
02:01:13,107 --> 02:01:16,387
Speaker 10: to be the best in your role in this competition?

2508
02:01:16,947 --> 02:01:21,507
Speaker 10: Because if you're not, you're a loose coggan this organization.

2509
02:01:21,707 --> 02:01:25,867
Speaker 10: Because the players and the coaches are striving in everything

2510
02:01:25,987 --> 02:01:28,627
Speaker 10: they do to achieve their outcome and winning a competition

2511
02:01:28,747 --> 02:01:32,027
Speaker 10: or winning a tour, and everyone associated with the team

2512
02:01:32,107 --> 02:01:34,067
Speaker 10: has to have the same mindset that even if I'm

2513
02:01:34,547 --> 02:01:38,387
Speaker 10: a massage therapist, am I striving every day to be

2514
02:01:38,547 --> 02:01:42,067
Speaker 10: the best massage therapist that has ever been associated with

2515
02:01:42,107 --> 02:01:45,667
Speaker 10: the British and Irish Lions, the best massage therapist has

2516
02:01:45,707 --> 02:01:48,587
Speaker 10: ever been involved in rugby at international level anywhere in

2517
02:01:48,627 --> 02:01:52,627
Speaker 10: the world. And if everyone buys into that that I've

2518
02:01:52,707 --> 02:01:55,827
Speaker 10: got a role, I've got a job which is consistent

2519
02:01:55,947 --> 02:01:57,907
Speaker 10: with being the best in the world or best in

2520
02:01:57,947 --> 02:02:02,067
Speaker 10: the competition, best in the region, then things work very smoothly.

2521
02:02:02,707 --> 02:02:07,227
Speaker 10: And you gave that Simplicity and clarity is the two

2522
02:02:07,307 --> 02:02:08,747
Speaker 10: most powerful weapons that you've got.

2523
02:02:09,547 --> 02:02:11,947
Speaker 3: I'll never leave a conversation with you, Wayne without being

2524
02:02:12,187 --> 02:02:16,067
Speaker 3: enhanced in terms of my wisdom and my knowledge around

2525
02:02:16,507 --> 02:02:20,227
Speaker 3: the coaching philosophies that you in part for a living with,

2526
02:02:20,307 --> 02:02:22,747
Speaker 3: my friend, thank you for giving us the benefit of

2527
02:02:22,867 --> 02:02:26,307
Speaker 3: your knowledge, expertise and wisdom as always, look forward to

2528
02:02:26,907 --> 02:02:29,987
Speaker 3: doing it again soon. Yes and not have to finish

2529
02:02:30,027 --> 02:02:33,507
Speaker 3: of course on come on your spurs of course yes,

2530
02:02:33,907 --> 02:02:38,107
Speaker 3: Tottenham fan Wayne Goldsmith, congratulations to you on that as well.

2531
02:02:38,147 --> 02:02:40,747
Speaker 3: Wayne Wayne Goldsmith, one of our regulars on the show.

2532
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Speaker 3: WG Coaching dot Com is this website if you want

2533
02:02:44,187 --> 02:02:45,867
Speaker 3: to find out more about the work that Wayne does.

2534
02:02:45,907 --> 02:02:46,827
Speaker 3: Eight to three News Talks.

2535
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Speaker 2: He'd be breaking down the hail Mary's and the EMPI

2536
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Speaker 2: fails weekends for it with Jason M. News Talk ZMB.

2537
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Speaker 3: Five to three. Final work today goes to Gunner on

2538
02:02:58,747 --> 02:03:01,467
Speaker 3: text party. Congratulations to my Chiefs now with respect. Please

2539
02:03:01,507 --> 02:03:04,707
Speaker 3: don't be confused with arrogance. I knew my Chiefs would win,

2540
02:03:04,827 --> 02:03:07,587
Speaker 3: but not by that margin. Reasons Number one, we Wana

2541
02:03:07,587 --> 02:03:11,267
Speaker 3: struggle with a back to back results, especially with their

2542
02:03:11,307 --> 02:03:13,427
Speaker 3: great win against the Blues last week. And number two,

2543
02:03:13,827 --> 02:03:16,307
Speaker 3: I feel the Chiefs this year, especially more evident after

2544
02:03:16,347 --> 02:03:18,747
Speaker 3: the Crusaders game, have a good simple plan, lay a

2545
02:03:18,787 --> 02:03:21,707
Speaker 3: good platform with their starting forwards and the bench forwards

2546
02:03:21,707 --> 02:03:24,387
Speaker 3: who are normally big reserve all blacks forwards who carry

2547
02:03:24,467 --> 02:03:28,107
Speaker 3: direct and make plenty of yardage basically create a constant

2548
02:03:28,267 --> 02:03:31,107
Speaker 3: battering of the opposition, which De Mack and co get

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Speaker 3: excellent front football from and have time and space to

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Speaker 3: weave their magic. Good observation. They're gunner to the score

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Speaker 3: last night. It was like a bad day on the

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Speaker 3: cricket field, he says, eighty five for seven. I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: it's our year, third time lucky. Thank you, Gunner, and

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Speaker 3: thank you for listening into the show. This afternoon, Tim

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Speaker 3: Beveridge is on the radio after three o'clock with the

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Speaker 3: Weekend Collective. Massive thanks to Andy McDonald for producing today

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Speaker 3: and our on site at Tyler Streetsport yesterday. Enjoy a

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Speaker 3: relaxing afternoon, mate. We're back tomorrow on Sports Talk between

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Speaker 3: seven and eight. Taking us out today during Kiwei Music Month,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to pay tribute to the Chiefs, so I

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Speaker 3: found a Hamiltonian Jenny Morris, from that fine part of

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Speaker 3: the country. She might actually be from Takaoa. It's still

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Speaker 3: chief country, isn't it, you?

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Speaker 19: I know?

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Speaker 3: Taking us out see tomorrow night. Bpe it out.

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