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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack Tame and

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Speaker 1: BE Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame. I'm Franchesca Budkins,

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Speaker 3: sitting into Jack on his first show of the year.

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Speaker 3: It is a pleasure to be with you. The Brutalist

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Speaker 3: was the surprise winner of the Big Awards at the

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Speaker 3: Golden Globes. Recently, this three hour and thirty five minute

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Speaker 3: long film, Yes you heard me correctly, it's hitting cinemas

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Speaker 3: this Thursday. Chris Schultz joins me with his thought on

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Speaker 3: whether it's worth your time. Also on the show, Day

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Speaker 3: Andrew Saville profiles Team Cricket and Team Rugby and the

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Speaker 3: T twenty Blackclash taking place at tonight in christ Yet,

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Speaker 3: and what to do with all those amazing cordiettes that

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Speaker 3: you have grown this summer? Nicky Wicks has some quite

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Speaker 3: unusual ideas ice cream anyone, Francesca, You're right, summer means

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Speaker 3: different things to all of us. But if you love

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Speaker 3: a game of tennis. Then some are sure delivers and

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Speaker 3: sometimes it gives us more than just a hard fought match.

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Speaker 3: It can also server up a conversation starter as to

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Speaker 3: how we should behave as both players and the crowd.

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Speaker 3: The winder the rain made things challenging for the ASP

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Speaker 3: Classic organizers in Auckland. Regardless, it was a great tournament,

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Speaker 3: sold out crowds and some excellent tennis. I've only just

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Speaker 3: started to watch tennis live over the last few years

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Speaker 3: and it's become a summer must to do. It is

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Speaker 3: a great sport to watch live, especially at the Minuca

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Speaker 3: Doctor Stadium in Stanley Street, because it's such an intimate setting.

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Speaker 3: We're also well behaved here in New Zealand. It takes

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Speaker 3: no prompts for the crowd to go quiet and it

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Speaker 3: can be quite a relief actually when a fan finally

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Speaker 3: gets the courage to yell some encouragement between points getting

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Speaker 3: hooked on. The ASB Classic is the perfect lead into

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Speaker 3: the Australian Open, and a few hours each evening have

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Speaker 3: drifted away while I've been watching the tally watching the

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Speaker 3: tennis on the telly this week, but with over ninety

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Speaker 3: thousand people heading into the arena, in Australia on some

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Speaker 3: days their behavior can be a little rowdier than here.

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Speaker 3: In New Zealand. A lot has been made of US

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Speaker 3: player Danielle Collins's behavior towards a hostile crowd a day

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Speaker 3: or so ago, but really all she did was meet

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Speaker 3: them halfway playing local favorite Destiny. Of the crowd was

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Speaker 3: very obviously behind the Ossie and this led to combative

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Speaker 3: scenes between the crowd and Collins. Collins made the comment

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Speaker 3: postmatched that she thought there were quite a lot of

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Speaker 3: souper drunk people who had a hard time controlling themselves,

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Speaker 3: but admitted she loved the energy regardless of which side

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Speaker 3: the crowd was on. During the match, Danielle used that

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Speaker 3: energy is motivation and wasn't afraid to bite back, blowing

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Speaker 3: sarcastic kisses and making a pretty brash speech at the

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Speaker 3: completion of her win, which was the equivalent of giving

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Speaker 3: the middle finger. Was it classy? Nope? Was it the

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Speaker 3: way you'd like your child to behave?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: But do you blame her No? It's not fair to

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Speaker 3: just criticize the player's behavior when she's only matching the crowds.

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Speaker 3: How much abuse would you put up with at work?

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Speaker 3: At the workplace. Sure, heckling is part of sport, but

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Speaker 3: it works best when delivered with humor or a light touch,

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Speaker 3: not nastiness. If you were doing all the work and

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Speaker 3: others of firing abuse at you from the sideline, is

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Speaker 3: it really any different to the abhorrent behavior of our

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Speaker 3: not taking any you know crap. Collins has made herself

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't get this from a play a younger player

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Speaker 3: establishing themselves on the circuit. But maybe Collins, who's coming

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Speaker 3: We're more passive and a little less exciting, But there's

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with being respectful. I'd much prefer that's the

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Speaker 2: News talk zebby.

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Speaker 3: So what kind of level of heckling and booing is

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Speaker 3: So tennis is traditionally a sport in which we respectfully

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Speaker 3: up with drunken hecklers. To be honest with you can

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Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts ninety two ninety two, and your

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Speaker 3: Saville is going to be with us this hour with

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Speaker 3: his thoughts on the Ossie Open. Kevin Milner is embracing

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Speaker 3: It is twelve past nine. You're worth Saturday Mornings.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Francesca.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack Tame and

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Speaker 3: No better way to kick off the show than catching

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Speaker 3: up with Kevin Milne. Happy New Year, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Francisca. I was very interested to

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Speaker 5: hear what you said about Danielle Collinswers. I've got a

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Speaker 5: bit of a theory. The only thing is I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure how many more games she'll last there, but I

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Speaker 5: reckon that now she's not playing Australians, Doves is for

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Speaker 5: lava probably and I think she's probably got She's probably

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Speaker 5: Australian Yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Actually I don't have the schedule on me. But I

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Speaker 3: just like the fact, Kevin, that she gave as good

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Speaker 3: The eysies probably will will come to love it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's not great behavior and it's not a good log.

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Speaker 3: It's not behavior I candone, but I kind of also

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Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, I think these are the leads of

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Speaker 5: You know, they've got their gatsy, and of course it

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Speaker 5: helps that she's pretty good looking. I reckon it may

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Speaker 5: be that she only gets one more game. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Quite possibly, quite possible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but honestly, I think I think the ouses will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might be absolutely right. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: tell me you've got a new piece in the house.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm wondering how many of our listeners now own

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Speaker 5: a robotic vacuum cleaner flying sauces on your floor at

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Speaker 5: Brasco's Boxing Day sale, they Whu's from twelve hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty dollars to two hundred and fifty dollars ninety percent off.

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Speaker 5: So we bought one, I imagine so did thousands of

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Speaker 5: others our model mops as well. First of all, you've

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Speaker 5: of a relatively new product by eighty eighty ninety percent?

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Speaker 5: What do they know that we don't? Are we to

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Speaker 5: find out that these high tech vacuums are using their

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Speaker 5: Wi Fi which they have to send back darted in China?

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Speaker 5: About our homes and the people in them? How do

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Speaker 5: we find out nobody here can repair them? Or what

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Speaker 5: a replacement back to be costs four times what we

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Speaker 5: out in time. Do you have a robotic vacuum, Francesca?

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Speaker 3: No, but yours isn't just a vacuum, is it? It's

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Speaker 3: also a mop?

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Speaker 4: That that's it's good.

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Speaker 3: That sounds awesome.

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Speaker 5: Linda got it going at home. First time of that

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Speaker 5: warning me, it was early morning. I'd just woken up.

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Speaker 5: I became aware of the distant sound of a quiet,

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Speaker 5: couldn't see a thing. The robot. Having completed work in

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Speaker 5: this shiny black disc from another planet, sucking up dusts

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Speaker 6: Creepy, but impress it.

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Speaker 5: Since then, we've been fascinated watching our first robot at work.

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Speaker 5: So does our new dog sid. He fires it around

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Speaker 5: very cautious, occasionally leaping out of the way. Actually, Francesca,

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Speaker 5: a robotic vacuum feels like another pet in the house.

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Speaker 5: Linda calls at Lonnie. She's given him a man's name.

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Speaker 5: I reckon to feed a long held fantasy that one

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Speaker 5: day she'd have a man in that house vacuuming and

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Speaker 3: Of the button, Keven, have you got a lawn Yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: Done the lawns robotic thing yet.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we haven't got a.

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Speaker 5: Kind of I don't think we've got a good look

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Speaker 5: our lawns. Well, there's a bit of flat stuff, but

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Speaker 3: So the key Christian heros does it do a really

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Speaker 3: good job? So far two hundred and fifty bucks, has

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Speaker 3: it been worth it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: On a bloke references? I don't notice or anyway. So

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Speaker 5: Linda seems pretty happy with it. And it's extraordinary really.

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Speaker 5: The other night it actually came out of where we

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Speaker 5: keep it on its own without us doing anything instead

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Speaker 5: know quite why that was, except that we were recharging

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Speaker 3: I just love the way you're You're the observer in

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Speaker 3: all this, Kevin. You know, like your wife got it going.

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Speaker 3: She's in control, it's doing all the work, and really

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Speaker 3: for you, it's just you and the dog. It's just

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Speaker 5: That it is very entertaining for two hundred and fifty backs.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it is extraordinary, isn't it That I should

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Speaker 5: go along to a sale and find something like a

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Speaker 5: robotic vacuum cleaner. I mean it's it's not rubbish, I

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Speaker 5: don't think. And it's dropped from twelve hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: to two hundred and fifty. How did they do that?

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Speaker 3: You're making money, Kevin, You're making money. Hey look lovely

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Speaker 3: to catch up with you. Thank you so much. The

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Speaker 3: Black Plass the Black Class Ty twenty it kicks off tonight.

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Speaker 3: Just so, how did the team stack up? Andrew Saville

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Speaker 3: is going to take us through that next. It is

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your text, Christine Yes Collins is playing fellow

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Speaker 3: American Madison Keys today. Thank you for that. And also

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Speaker 3: had another text here going Francisca. We have a robo

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Speaker 3: vacuum cleaner, best appliance we've ever bought, Absolutely love it

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Speaker 3: does a great job. Somebody else wants to know, Kevin?

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Speaker 3: Do they empty themselves? Very good question? Somehow you know?

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Speaker 3: Somehow I doubt that, But thank you for your texts.

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Speaker 3: You mightst welcome to text anytime throughout the Show's Dale

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Speaker 6: Morning, Francisca happy with you here too, good morning and

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Speaker 6: to you too.

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Speaker 3: Have you had your feet up on some of these

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Speaker 3: lovely summer evenings and enjoining the Australian Open, Yes, I have.

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Speaker 6: It's a great time of year four obviously tennis fans,

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Speaker 6: isn't it. We'll see very much was the Open being

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the cricket. Nice to catch up with you, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you with us. Thanks for the texts.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, we've got a bit of a theme

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Speaker 3: Or we don't have a trainer. You know why we

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Speaker 8: Because there's no audio in it. There's no one it

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Speaker 8: It's in there's a bit of climate change involved in this.

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Speaker 8: You can sort of see the animator's fingerprints on it.

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Speaker 3: I think it looked like a beautiful fable. I've only

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Speaker 8: You know, you've got to get the eyes right in

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Speaker 8: to it. She's eleven. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's just

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00:22:52,653 --> 00:22:55,013
Speaker 8: so cute. It's so heartwarming. You know, if you've got

432
00:22:55,053 --> 00:22:58,373
Speaker 8: a pet at home, you'd probably love it. I just think,

433
00:22:58,453 --> 00:23:01,053
Speaker 8: you know, it's not full of like mad cap high

434
00:23:01,093 --> 00:23:03,573
Speaker 8: jinks or slapstick comedy or you know that kind of

435
00:23:03,573 --> 00:23:05,693
Speaker 8: Paddington or Peter Rabbit humor.

436
00:23:05,693 --> 00:23:06,333
Speaker 4: There's none of that.

437
00:23:06,493 --> 00:23:09,173
Speaker 8: It's just you kind of want to know what happens

438
00:23:09,173 --> 00:23:12,573
Speaker 8: next because there's constantly constant little things happening all the

439
00:23:12,573 --> 00:23:16,253
Speaker 8: way through it. And yeah, it's just.

440
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Speaker 3: It sounds bundle and the first time that Latvia has

441
00:23:20,653 --> 00:23:23,453
Speaker 3: won a Golden Globe because that's where the film is from.

442
00:23:23,733 --> 00:23:26,453
Speaker 3: Latvian Film. So there we go. Okay, we're going to

443
00:23:26,453 --> 00:23:28,853
Speaker 3: listen to the trailer for another film that Chris and

444
00:23:28,893 --> 00:23:32,653
Speaker 3: I spent two hundred and fifteen minutes, which is approximately

445
00:23:32,693 --> 00:23:36,253
Speaker 3: three and a half hours watching on Wednesday night this week.

446
00:23:36,493 --> 00:23:38,413
Speaker 3: Haven't listened to this? This is the Brutalist.

447
00:23:39,093 --> 00:23:39,933
Speaker 2: These are yours?

448
00:23:40,253 --> 00:23:40,493
Speaker 5: Yes?

449
00:23:42,093 --> 00:23:45,773
Speaker 2: Yes? Are them? Yes?

450
00:23:47,373 --> 00:23:47,693
Speaker 5: Tell me?

451
00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:51,733
Speaker 3: Why is an accomplished foreign architect shovel and call here

452
00:23:51,773 --> 00:23:53,653
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia?

453
00:23:54,053 --> 00:23:54,613
Speaker 2: I love for that.

454
00:23:55,493 --> 00:23:56,773
Speaker 9: It is also Sam part.

455
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:06,693
Speaker 3: This was an extraordinary feat of filmmaking and film watching

456
00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:11,253
Speaker 3: that was undertaken with this film. We should explain to people.

457
00:24:11,293 --> 00:24:14,613
Speaker 3: So it's about three hours thirty five minutes long. I

458
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,733
Speaker 3: think it has an in built fifteen minute interval in it,

459
00:24:18,173 --> 00:24:21,213
Speaker 3: so it's a compulsory interval which takes place, which is

460
00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:24,173
Speaker 3: actually perfect. It's about the one forty minute mark, and

461
00:24:24,213 --> 00:24:25,693
Speaker 3: it's when you do just want to get up in

462
00:24:25,733 --> 00:24:28,213
Speaker 3: stretch your legs, maybe popped to the bathroom, grab something

463
00:24:28,253 --> 00:24:28,813
Speaker 3: else to eat.

464
00:24:29,733 --> 00:24:33,373
Speaker 8: I am not take snacks. I desperately needed that fifteen minutes.

465
00:24:33,493 --> 00:24:36,733
Speaker 8: I went straight to that popcorn bar, loaded up on snacks.

466
00:24:37,133 --> 00:24:38,773
Speaker 3: You were so funny. You got there and you had

467
00:24:38,773 --> 00:24:40,253
Speaker 3: no idea it was that long, and you were looking

468
00:24:40,253 --> 00:24:41,133
Speaker 3: at us all going did you know?

469
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:41,613
Speaker 4: Did you know?

470
00:24:41,693 --> 00:24:43,973
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, no, I've eaten. It's like you go.

471
00:24:44,213 --> 00:24:45,733
Speaker 3: So the first thing you need to know about this

472
00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:48,653
Speaker 3: film is go prepared. Go prepared for the fact that

473
00:24:48,693 --> 00:24:51,013
Speaker 3: this is an evening like you were getting bang for

474
00:24:51,053 --> 00:24:53,693
Speaker 3: your buck here. You were going to see an ambitious,

475
00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:58,933
Speaker 3: quite audacious, irrelatively small budget film done on an epic scale.

476
00:24:59,293 --> 00:25:02,573
Speaker 8: Yeah, at that scale is just right. Like you go

477
00:25:02,653 --> 00:25:06,253
Speaker 8: through the full range of emotions, right, I felt anger, frustration,

478
00:25:06,493 --> 00:25:11,853
Speaker 8: and I felt a lot of empathy. It's occasionally humorous,

479
00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:14,773
Speaker 8: but you know, people did laugh a bit in our screening.

480
00:25:15,653 --> 00:25:19,773
Speaker 8: This is about a Jewish immigrant who flees the Holocaust

481
00:25:19,973 --> 00:25:23,053
Speaker 8: Nazi Germany, goes to America and he has to start again.

482
00:25:23,373 --> 00:25:25,453
Speaker 8: He's left his wife behind, his niece. He's trying to

483
00:25:25,453 --> 00:25:28,493
Speaker 8: bring him back over for the first half of the film,

484
00:25:28,853 --> 00:25:32,733
Speaker 8: and so he meets Guy Pierce, this rich guy who

485
00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:36,013
Speaker 8: finds out that he's a famous architect, and they embark

486
00:25:36,053 --> 00:25:38,333
Speaker 8: on what I can only describe as the worst episode

487
00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:42,453
Speaker 8: of grand designs ever. This rich guy wants to build

488
00:25:42,453 --> 00:25:45,933
Speaker 8: a building in honor of his late mum, and he

489
00:25:45,973 --> 00:25:47,653
Speaker 8: gets this guy to do it, and it could all

490
00:25:47,693 --> 00:25:50,173
Speaker 8: fall apart at any moment. There's so many things that

491
00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:52,293
Speaker 8: could go wrong. I don't want to spoil those details,

492
00:25:53,133 --> 00:25:57,293
Speaker 8: but I guess that's where the drama comes from in

493
00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:00,293
Speaker 8: this film. But I think what this film subtly is.

494
00:26:00,373 --> 00:26:02,413
Speaker 8: You remember Tar from a couple of years back with

495
00:26:02,453 --> 00:26:05,093
Speaker 8: Pate Blanchett underneath all that that was like a love

496
00:26:05,173 --> 00:26:10,333
Speaker 8: letter tonducting to opera. This kind of feels the same

497
00:26:10,373 --> 00:26:13,173
Speaker 8: way about architecture. It subtly just slides in there that

498
00:26:13,933 --> 00:26:15,693
Speaker 8: you know, like halfway through the film you realize there's

499
00:26:15,693 --> 00:26:18,053
Speaker 8: these long, lingering shots of like a chair or a

500
00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:21,533
Speaker 8: door or a bridge, and it makes you see the

501
00:26:21,533 --> 00:26:23,853
Speaker 8: world differently. This is a this is a film about

502
00:26:24,093 --> 00:26:28,933
Speaker 8: buildings and angles and concrete and lines and dimensions, and

503
00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:31,013
Speaker 8: you know, you see all the drawings this guy's doing

504
00:26:31,013 --> 00:26:34,533
Speaker 8: for the building, and yeah, I don't know. That's what

505
00:26:34,653 --> 00:26:37,693
Speaker 8: I've been left with. I'm looking at the world differently,

506
00:26:37,773 --> 00:26:40,973
Speaker 8: like after all of those emotions have subsided. When I

507
00:26:41,013 --> 00:26:43,973
Speaker 8: walk around the city, I'm looking at the world differently.

508
00:26:44,133 --> 00:26:48,533
Speaker 3: It also explores how you go through something incredibly traumatic

509
00:26:48,533 --> 00:26:51,933
Speaker 3: and unimaginable and then try and put yourself back into

510
00:26:51,973 --> 00:26:55,493
Speaker 3: the world. And in a way, we have this architect

511
00:26:55,533 --> 00:26:59,853
Speaker 3: who is holding on to the fact that his buildings

512
00:26:59,893 --> 00:27:01,613
Speaker 3: survived in Europe.

513
00:27:01,853 --> 00:27:03,173
Speaker 8: That's the way it helps them that way.

514
00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:06,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they've survived, and he says, well, you know,

515
00:27:06,053 --> 00:27:10,613
Speaker 3: they try to exterminate me. You can't take away everything

516
00:27:10,653 --> 00:27:13,533
Speaker 3: I've contributed. And then we watch him try and rebuild

517
00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:17,213
Speaker 3: his life in a place where he doesn't feel like

518
00:27:17,293 --> 00:27:20,733
Speaker 3: he is welcome or that people understand what they've been through,

519
00:27:21,053 --> 00:27:23,133
Speaker 3: or that they have a sense of belonging. So you've

520
00:27:23,173 --> 00:27:26,693
Speaker 3: got this, you know, you've got this human character who

521
00:27:26,773 --> 00:27:29,213
Speaker 3: was very much a drift. Really, don't you.

522
00:27:29,693 --> 00:27:32,893
Speaker 8: Well, let's say you're and Brodie's talent, right, Yeah, this

523
00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:34,773
Speaker 8: has been the best role I think I've ever seen

524
00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:36,413
Speaker 8: him in. I haven't seen him for a while. I

525
00:27:36,413 --> 00:27:39,053
Speaker 8: think it was Succession last time, where he's just playing

526
00:27:39,053 --> 00:27:41,053
Speaker 8: like a rich tech guy. This he goes all in

527
00:27:41,173 --> 00:27:43,853
Speaker 8: on this. It's just such a good role for him.

528
00:27:43,893 --> 00:27:45,853
Speaker 8: But also, like I leaned over to you, I think

529
00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,013
Speaker 8: and that information and said, like, is this based on

530
00:27:48,093 --> 00:27:50,173
Speaker 8: a real story? Because it feels like tar right, it

531
00:27:50,173 --> 00:27:53,013
Speaker 8: feels like this person existed, It feels like this world

532
00:27:53,053 --> 00:27:56,053
Speaker 8: existed and this really did happen. It's not. It's entirely fictional,

533
00:27:56,293 --> 00:27:59,613
Speaker 8: which is also what makes it so audacious to make

534
00:27:59,653 --> 00:28:02,773
Speaker 8: a three and a half hour film about an architect,

535
00:28:03,253 --> 00:28:06,893
Speaker 8: a Jewish architect living in America. It's mine and if

536
00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:09,053
Speaker 8: you go read the interviews with the direct you can

537
00:28:09,093 --> 00:28:11,213
Speaker 8: hear what he went through to try and get this made.

538
00:28:11,373 --> 00:28:13,453
Speaker 3: The other thing which I think is stunning about this

539
00:28:13,533 --> 00:28:18,573
Speaker 3: film is the sound to it. It is it's almost

540
00:28:18,733 --> 00:28:23,253
Speaker 3: like this very tension filled horror film you're watching. There

541
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,813
Speaker 3: is this sort of this this beat that goes through it.

542
00:28:26,093 --> 00:28:30,893
Speaker 3: These you know, like the it just creates a whole

543
00:28:30,933 --> 00:28:33,093
Speaker 3: nother You've got a bit of melodrama kind of taking

544
00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:35,933
Speaker 3: place with the relationships between everybody, but there's this this

545
00:28:36,133 --> 00:28:40,253
Speaker 3: full boding kind of the soundtrack under it. It's unusual,

546
00:28:40,293 --> 00:28:42,093
Speaker 3: isn't it. You know, like, if you go into this film,

547
00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:45,413
Speaker 3: this is not your normal mainstream blockbuster. It is a

548
00:28:45,453 --> 00:28:47,693
Speaker 3: little bit different. Go on a night where you've got

549
00:28:47,773 --> 00:28:50,453
Speaker 3: time to really just actually sit and be there and

550
00:28:50,613 --> 00:28:52,853
Speaker 3: enjoy it, but it is an extraordinary experience.

551
00:28:52,933 --> 00:28:54,893
Speaker 8: You're going to experience something you're definitely going to have

552
00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:57,093
Speaker 8: feelings about it. You're not going to come out of

553
00:28:57,093 --> 00:28:59,413
Speaker 8: that and go eh, yeah, you know, you're going to

554
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:01,173
Speaker 8: come out and you're going to be thinking about it

555
00:29:01,213 --> 00:29:03,453
Speaker 8: for sure, and I think that's that makes the movie

556
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:06,253
Speaker 8: on its own a success, you know, like that is sure.

557
00:29:06,533 --> 00:29:08,133
Speaker 8: The goal of a movie like this is to make

558
00:29:08,213 --> 00:29:10,253
Speaker 8: you think about things and see the world differently. And

559
00:29:10,293 --> 00:29:11,253
Speaker 8: it's had that effect on me.

560
00:29:11,373 --> 00:29:15,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it gave me weird dreams, very weird. It's

561
00:29:16,093 --> 00:29:18,733
Speaker 3: very weird dreams. Hey, Chris, thank you so much and

562
00:29:18,813 --> 00:29:21,613
Speaker 3: appreciate you putting the dime and effort into going and

563
00:29:21,653 --> 00:29:24,533
Speaker 3: seeing that film to talk to us about it today.

564
00:29:24,613 --> 00:29:27,573
Speaker 3: It is in cinemas this Thursday. That's the twenty third

565
00:29:27,613 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 3: that was The Brutalist, the film we were talking about

566
00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 3: when best Best Drama, I think Best Director and picked

567
00:29:36,253 --> 00:29:38,733
Speaker 3: up a third what was the third of the Golden Globes. Anyway,

568
00:29:38,773 --> 00:29:40,653
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be all over the Oscar

569
00:29:40,693 --> 00:29:43,013
Speaker 3: nominations in the next week. And the first film we

570
00:29:43,093 --> 00:29:46,213
Speaker 3: spoke about was Flow. It is fifteen to ten.

571
00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:52,973
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgan in for Jack daim keeping

572
00:29:52,973 --> 00:29:56,853
Speaker 1: the conversation going through the weekend with be Pure Polity

573
00:29:56,853 --> 00:29:59,173
Speaker 1: Settlements for essential Energy used talks.

574
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Speaker 3: That be joining me now is Nicky Wicks. Good morning,

575
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:04,093
Speaker 3: Happy New Year?

576
00:30:05,613 --> 00:30:06,373
Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning.

577
00:30:06,453 --> 00:30:09,813
Speaker 10: A happy New Year to you too, brand new one.

578
00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:12,573
Speaker 10: I always kind of love that always late.

579
00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:15,613
Speaker 3: I agree, how's the vegy garden?

580
00:30:17,453 --> 00:30:20,573
Speaker 10: The veachy garden is fantastic. But you know, for our

581
00:30:20,613 --> 00:30:23,173
Speaker 10: listeners this morning, and those of you who are gardeners

582
00:30:23,253 --> 00:30:26,133
Speaker 10: or have neighbors who are gardeners, how are you going

583
00:30:26,173 --> 00:30:30,093
Speaker 10: with the Corseiets? I with the carseiets yet those first

584
00:30:30,173 --> 00:30:31,933
Speaker 10: few that came out of the garden or we were

585
00:30:31,933 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 10: celebrating all but we were not. So now you know,

586
00:30:35,613 --> 00:30:37,413
Speaker 10: you can't give them away at this time of the year.

587
00:30:37,413 --> 00:30:41,813
Speaker 10: They're all turning into marrows overnight, and so you.

588
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:42,693
Speaker 3: Know, the garden's good.

589
00:30:42,773 --> 00:30:44,973
Speaker 10: But I thought that our listeners might be feeling the

590
00:30:45,013 --> 00:30:46,773
Speaker 10: same as me, which is what on earth to do

591
00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:47,933
Speaker 10: with these course yets?

592
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:50,333
Speaker 3: And that's what I'd like to focus on. They might

593
00:30:50,373 --> 00:30:53,293
Speaker 3: have been grilling them to them into you know, pasta

594
00:30:53,413 --> 00:30:56,333
Speaker 3: all sorts of things. But you've got some really interesting

595
00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:58,733
Speaker 3: takes on what to do with corg Yet this morning,

596
00:30:59,653 --> 00:31:00,413
Speaker 3: look I have.

597
00:31:00,453 --> 00:31:02,453
Speaker 10: And it's because a neighbor in fact, did you know

598
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:06,133
Speaker 10: see mer Texans said hey, want some want some Cordiets slashing?

599
00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:09,253
Speaker 10: And I went back and went aha, I said, I

600
00:31:09,413 --> 00:31:11,613
Speaker 10: am drowning in them at the moment, and so she

601
00:31:11,693 --> 00:31:13,853
Speaker 10: gave me a couple of good ideas. So I've been

602
00:31:13,853 --> 00:31:16,613
Speaker 10: really experimenting this summer. I know, on the show in

603
00:31:16,733 --> 00:31:19,933
Speaker 10: previous you know years, we've done you know, we've done cakes,

604
00:31:19,933 --> 00:31:22,133
Speaker 10: we've done pickles, all those things that you can turn

605
00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:24,493
Speaker 10: corgettes into fritters, a grade, all of that.

606
00:31:24,653 --> 00:31:26,573
Speaker 9: But here's a couple of great things.

607
00:31:26,573 --> 00:31:30,733
Speaker 10: So I've made a beautiful creamy dressing that you can

608
00:31:30,853 --> 00:31:35,133
Speaker 10: use for a salad or for a steak or something

609
00:31:35,173 --> 00:31:39,133
Speaker 10: like that, and the base of it is raw corgette. Honestly,

610
00:31:39,293 --> 00:31:42,293
Speaker 10: absolutely amazing. So here I did for that a cup

611
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:45,813
Speaker 10: of chopped corgette and then about quarter of a cup

612
00:31:45,813 --> 00:31:47,973
Speaker 10: of olive oil or another good oil.

613
00:31:47,693 --> 00:31:48,373
Speaker 9: That you've got.

614
00:31:48,613 --> 00:31:50,453
Speaker 10: You can even get away with a little mix of

615
00:31:50,493 --> 00:31:52,853
Speaker 10: oil and water, believe it or not, because it's actually

616
00:31:52,853 --> 00:31:55,813
Speaker 10: are going to go into a blender handful of basil leaves,

617
00:31:55,893 --> 00:31:58,133
Speaker 10: or maybe parsing, although past isn't so great at this

618
00:31:58,173 --> 00:32:00,173
Speaker 10: time of the year, or maybe another herd that you

619
00:32:00,253 --> 00:32:02,453
Speaker 10: might like. So if you were heading off, maybe had

620
00:32:02,493 --> 00:32:04,133
Speaker 10: a piece of chicken that you were going to pair

621
00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:07,053
Speaker 10: this with, or a rice noodle, salad. Then maybe you

622
00:32:07,093 --> 00:32:11,573
Speaker 10: could use coriander, something like that. Decent squeeze of something acidic.

623
00:32:11,653 --> 00:32:15,093
Speaker 10: Now I've still got some big squishy lemons off my tree,

624
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:18,333
Speaker 10: or something like a vinegar would be fine. So you

625
00:32:18,413 --> 00:32:21,293
Speaker 10: probably want about say two tablespoons of whatever that is,

626
00:32:21,533 --> 00:32:24,093
Speaker 10: but a salt from pepper. Of course, if you're feeling

627
00:32:24,133 --> 00:32:26,613
Speaker 10: a little bit luxurious, you could do parmesan cheese in there.

628
00:32:27,173 --> 00:32:30,013
Speaker 10: That's kind of a riff on that sort of pesto style.

629
00:32:30,413 --> 00:32:32,493
Speaker 10: But you're blending it all together in a decent sort

630
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:35,693
Speaker 10: of blender or food process until it's quite a liquid sauce.

631
00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:40,013
Speaker 10: And it's beautiful. It's light green, it's got a creaminess.

632
00:32:40,053 --> 00:32:43,213
Speaker 10: I served this up to two people yesterday and I'm like, wow,

633
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:44,253
Speaker 10: this is beautiful.

634
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:44,813
Speaker 9: It's dressing.

635
00:32:44,813 --> 00:32:48,453
Speaker 10: It's so fresh and creamy, and really the creaminess comes

636
00:32:48,453 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 10: from those raw gets. So this is a really great one.

637
00:32:51,733 --> 00:32:54,053
Speaker 10: I'd be knocking that out like crazy. The other thing

638
00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:56,133
Speaker 10: I've been knocking it at is some fresh fruit ice

639
00:32:56,173 --> 00:32:57,653
Speaker 10: cream with corsiyet.

640
00:32:57,813 --> 00:32:59,853
Speaker 3: So this is this is not what I would not

641
00:32:59,933 --> 00:33:04,813
Speaker 3: go corgiyet ice cream. Yeah, awesome, I know this looks again.

642
00:33:04,933 --> 00:33:08,133
Speaker 10: My neighbors to me look, you can also tune them

643
00:33:08,133 --> 00:33:09,693
Speaker 10: into aye, she said, I've been doing it into ice

644
00:33:09,693 --> 00:33:12,813
Speaker 10: creams for the kids, and she's a fabulous chef, so

645
00:33:12,853 --> 00:33:15,773
Speaker 10: I trust her impressently. So I've been freezing chopped corget

646
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Speaker 10: so again, somebody drops me off a marrow, I'll go, oh, goody, goody,

647
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Speaker 10: thanks so much, and I chop it all up into

648
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Speaker 10: little pieces, throw it in the freezer, and then when

649
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Speaker 10: I feel like it, I take equal portions of that

650
00:33:26,733 --> 00:33:29,693
Speaker 10: corgiet and any sort of frozen fruit. And I've done

651
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Speaker 10: this with raspberries last night, mango earlier on in the week,

652
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Speaker 10: and then you blend it up and it just comes

653
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Speaker 10: out like a smooth gelato. It's amazing. What people would

654
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Speaker 10: normally do with the fresh fruit ice creams in a

655
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Speaker 10: blender is they'll throw a banana in there. It's fine,

656
00:33:45,213 --> 00:33:47,213
Speaker 10: a little bit of extra sugar in there, but it's okay.

657
00:33:47,253 --> 00:33:50,213
Speaker 10: You know, I'm not against sugar in that sense, but

658
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,053
Speaker 10: this is just fantastic if you feel like something different

659
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Speaker 10: in getting some more fiber and vechies into you. So again,

660
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Speaker 10: serve this to two people yesterday because we had a

661
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Speaker 10: little bit of a photo shoot actually, and they were like,

662
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Speaker 10: oh my god, this is amazing, And I said, that

663
00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:06,333
Speaker 10: has got you know, only half of that is the fruit.

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Speaker 10: The other half is courgette because surprisingly Francesca, it doesn't

665
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Speaker 10: really have much flavor, and which is kind of what

666
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Speaker 10: you want in this sense, you know, But it has

667
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Speaker 10: a beautiful creaminess once it's been frozen. You could add

668
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Speaker 10: into that to help you blender out, I often say

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Speaker 10: to people, because it doesn't need a bit of a

670
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Speaker 10: help with a stick or something in there to get

671
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Speaker 10: it all moving around. You could add little bit of

672
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Speaker 10: coconut milk or cream or water or something like that,

673
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Speaker 10: or even fruit juice if you wanted any other flavorings

674
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Speaker 10: that you want to go for.

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Speaker 9: But it comes out.

676
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Speaker 10: Literally like the like the texture and that sort of

677
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Speaker 10: thing and the flavor of a really good gelato.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good ee.

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Speaker 10: And the last thing I've been doing is I've been

680
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Speaker 10: just loading it up into my smoothies. And again that

681
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Speaker 10: is something that I wouldn't normally do. I'd usually use

682
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Speaker 10: a banana or an avocado for that sort of creaminess,

683
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Speaker 10: but not now. I have got enough frozen corgette to

684
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Speaker 10: get me almost to next summer. I reckon, but.

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Speaker 3: That's a really nice It's a really nice way to

686
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Speaker 3: add the green to the smoothie as well, isn't it,

687
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Speaker 3: Because we talk about, you know, having our green smoothes

688
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Speaker 3: and getting the green into the smoothie and things. It's

689
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Speaker 3: and it's just that it doesn't have a strong taste.

690
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Speaker 3: And the key thing too is don't just get your corgies,

691
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Speaker 3: as you said, You've got to chop them before you

692
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Speaker 3: freeze up. Don't just grab them from the from the gun.

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Speaker 10: And yeah, that's a disaster, isn't it, because you know,

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Speaker 10: that's that's a rookie mistake, that one is freezing.

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Speaker 9: Blender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, small.

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Speaker 10: It's yeah, exactly me too, to be honest. When I

698
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Speaker 10: first started doing this, I was chopping them lazily, quite big,

699
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Speaker 10: and then I realized that was kind of tougher for

700
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Speaker 10: my blender or food processor at the other end.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 10: Think these, you know, these are my favorite things to

703
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Speaker 10: do now with the corgiette, you know, as opposed to

704
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Speaker 10: as I say, I've usually grated it than the cakes

705
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Speaker 10: or frishes. Nothing wrong with but these were, yeah, just

706
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Speaker 10: new ways of using them up.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, just very quickly Nicky, I noticed

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Speaker 3: as you were reading out those recipes. One minute you

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Speaker 3: call it corgiet, the next to marrow. These really good. No, no,

710
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Speaker 3: these if you have got the marrow, I imagine that they

711
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,693
Speaker 3: are fine to freeze and using smoothies and things like that.

712
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Speaker 3: The fact that it's turned into a marrow won't matter.

713
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Speaker 10: To be honest, that's a really great question, because I

714
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Speaker 10: am really using the marrows for this cool Most of

715
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Speaker 10: mine are really far too big. They're probably the size

716
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Speaker 10: of my forum. Maybe some without the hand, but mostly

717
00:36:28,693 --> 00:36:31,453
Speaker 10: they're from the elbow to the finger tip. That's the

718
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Speaker 10: ones that people are giving me. And so absolutely these

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Speaker 10: are the ones I'm using. And as I say, I'm

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Speaker 10: you know.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 10: Previous years, I feel terrible when I've you know, wasted

723
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Speaker 10: time or not waste of time, but when I've made

724
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Speaker 10: pickles out of them, said, I've even seen a couple

725
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Speaker 10: of those to the bloody compost, But how embarrassing. Not anymore. No,

726
00:36:48,573 --> 00:36:52,413
Speaker 10: now I'm just like, great, there's another marrow. Fantastic, chop

727
00:36:52,453 --> 00:36:54,773
Speaker 10: that up and it's in the freezer. So no, pretty

728
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Speaker 10: much marrows is. But you could use your couseetes as well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. So much. Nicky really appreciate it for those recipes.

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Speaker 3: All you have to do is here to Newstorgs. He'd

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Speaker 3: be dot co dot Nzen. We've got your cools yet

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Speaker 3: and your marrows all sorted. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 3: She has teamed up with Canadian musicology professor doctor Jada

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Speaker 3: and Tammy and Jada are with me next to talk

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Speaker 3: You ten rock? Good morning, this is Saturday morning, So

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Speaker 3: I'm Francisca bud Can with you until midday. Good to

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Speaker 3: have you with us now. Classic female country artist like

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Speaker 3: Dolly Patton, LaRita Lyn Petsicline, Faith Hill, and even modern

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Speaker 3: day musicians like Casey Musgraves, Taylor Swift, Kerry Underwood, and

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Speaker 3: Shania Twain, a musical pioneer, is doing a fair share

763
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Speaker 3: in elevating the country genre to the conglomerate it is today.

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Speaker 3: So it may surprise you that just ten percent of

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Speaker 3: country music airplay and awards are granted to women. This

766
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Speaker 3: is just one of the astonishing facts peppered through Tammy

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Speaker 3: Nielsen's latest show, The F Word, which combines the research

768
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Speaker 3: of musicology professor doctor Jada Watson with music. Tammy Nielsen

769
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Speaker 3: is New Zealand's own country music pioneer, having won the

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Speaker 3: twy for Best Country Album three consecutive times, and Doctor

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Speaker 3: Jada Watson has spent the best part of two decades

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Speaker 3: researching country music in the US. Tammy and Jada join

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Speaker 3: me now, Good morning, Good morning. I told you it

774
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Speaker 3: was quite an introduction. That's a good one.

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Speaker 13: We'll take it.

776
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask probably what might sound like a really

777
00:40:07,973 --> 00:40:10,853
Speaker 3: silly question to start off with, but I feel that

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Speaker 3: the word country music is such a broad term. I

779
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Speaker 3: was wondering, maybe, Timmy, if you wanted to start off

780
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Speaker 3: by describing country music to someone who maybe isn't so

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Speaker 3: familiar with the genre.

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Speaker 12: Oh man, Yeah, country music is. It's a huge umbrella

783
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Speaker 12: with a lot of different subgenres under it. So you know,

784
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Speaker 12: everyone from Neil Young to Johnny Cash to Patsy Klein

785
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Speaker 12: to Taylor Swift. You know, these are, like you would think,

786
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Speaker 12: people in completely different musical genres, but they are all

787
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Speaker 12: kind of little subgenres under the umbrella of country music,

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Speaker 12: which is, you know, encompasses what's supposed to be you know,

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Speaker 12: the stories and the music of the people.

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Speaker 3: So, Jada, when you refer to country music, do you

791
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Speaker 3: use that broad um bread as well?

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Speaker 14: That's a tough question. Uh yeah, I really do. But

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Speaker 14: I I probably approach it from a different angle than

794
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Speaker 14: Tammy does because she comes from the artist's perspective, So

795
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Speaker 14: she's probably thinking musically or sonically, whereas oftentimes I find

796
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:31,613
Speaker 14: I'm thinking institutionally. So you know, I would I would

797
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Speaker 14: be thinking about, you know, mainstream channels, like whether or

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Speaker 14: not artists are operating within the music row system in

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Speaker 14: Nashville or outside of it, and what that what that means.

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Speaker 14: So you know, some of the artists that Tammy mentioned

801
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Speaker 14: definitely are operating within you know, mainstream Nashville music making processes,

802
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Speaker 14: and then some aren't. And so that I tend to

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Speaker 14: I tend to focus on the institutional side of things

804
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Speaker 14: through my work.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha Tammy, A journey of feminist country song on International

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Speaker 3: Women's Day. That's what the show was all about. What

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Speaker 3: sparked the idea behind this show, Well.

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Speaker 12: I kind of I kind of wrote Jada into this

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Speaker 12: before she realized she was even involved. We both are

810
00:42:24,613 --> 00:42:26,973
Speaker 12: very vocal. I think we first met on Twitter didn't.

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Speaker 12: We Yes, And we're both quite vocal about challenging inequality

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Speaker 12: in the genre in the country music industry. Me from

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Speaker 12: an artist's perspective obviously, and Jada from a researcher's perspective.

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Speaker 12: And I followed her because she wrote, you know this

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Speaker 12: incredible articles that were in you know, USA Today and

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Speaker 12: all of the Rolling Stone, you know. So I kind

817
00:42:56,653 --> 00:43:01,253
Speaker 12: of got to know her through her research and publishing

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Speaker 12: her research on all of these music kind of institutions.

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Speaker 12: And what I loved about her work was that for

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Speaker 12: an artist, she was kind of giving us the tools

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Speaker 12: to feel validated, I guess, you know, vindicated because for years,

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Speaker 12: everyone in the music industry knows that there's a massive imbalance,

823
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Speaker 12: especially in country music, but in music in general. But

824
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Speaker 12: there's a huge imbalance in equality in country music, and

825
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Speaker 12: it's kind of an unspoken knowledge. Everyone just knows it.

826
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Speaker 12: But Jada kind of provided these black and white, this

827
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Speaker 12: data research that actually proved that it wasn't just how

828
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Speaker 12: it felt, it's actually how it is.

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Speaker 3: And so I kind of had.

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Speaker 12: This idea of marrying her research and all this these

831
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Speaker 12: incredible lectures and things that she does and kind of

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Speaker 12: intersperse it between the actual music she's talking about, and

833
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:18,573
Speaker 12: so I wanted to tell the story of women in

834
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Speaker 12: country music through song, but also backing it up with

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Speaker 12: just that real, uh you know, juxtaposition of like you

836
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Speaker 12: celebrate this wonderful music, but then getting the reality of

837
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Speaker 12: what it's like to be an artist, a female artist,

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Speaker 12: operating in that world.

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Speaker 3: So you're going to bring us up, Timmy, and then

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Speaker 3: you're just gonna draw you. We're gonna drop down, then

841
00:44:42,053 --> 00:44:43,453
Speaker 3: we're gonna come up again, then you're.

842
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Speaker 4: Gonna drop us down.

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00:44:44,933 --> 00:44:46,893
Speaker 3: I can see, I can see how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always.

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Speaker 12: Say, I always say, you know, as I'm a mom,

846
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Speaker 12: and you can't give your kids medicine without giving them

847
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Speaker 12: a little bit of honey. So it's lots of honey

848
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Speaker 12: and little bits of medicine stuck in there.

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Speaker 3: So, Tommy, just out of interest, did the facts that

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Speaker 3: Jada uncovered surprise you? Although, as you say, was it

851
00:45:05,973 --> 00:45:08,293
Speaker 3: more confirmation of what you already knew?

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Speaker 12: Well, it wasn't surprising, but it was even though we

853
00:45:14,373 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 12: know there's an imbalance, seeing it in black and white

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Speaker 12: and seeing the actual numbers and percentages was still it's

855
00:45:25,053 --> 00:45:29,333
Speaker 12: like a punch to the gut, you know, and I

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Speaker 12: think that you know, yeah, seeing it before my eyes,

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Speaker 12: even though yeah, not surprising, was still shocking somehow.

858
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jada, why is it the way it is? I

859
00:45:46,733 --> 00:45:51,813
Speaker 3: might be wrong here, but I was under the idea

860
00:45:51,893 --> 00:45:54,173
Speaker 3: that over the last sort of twenty years, the fastest

861
00:45:54,173 --> 00:45:58,053
Speaker 3: growing radio stations, especially in the UIs were country music

862
00:45:58,133 --> 00:46:00,893
Speaker 3: radio stations, that they were growing so so fast. So

863
00:46:00,973 --> 00:46:03,493
Speaker 3: I was really taken back to see that actually, you know,

864
00:46:04,493 --> 00:46:07,773
Speaker 3: only ten percent of country music you know, played on

865
00:46:07,853 --> 00:46:11,373
Speaker 3: those on those stations, or on any station, is by women.

866
00:46:13,253 --> 00:46:16,733
Speaker 14: Yeah, this is this is a great question, you know.

867
00:46:16,893 --> 00:46:19,733
Speaker 14: I guess country has always been one of the largest formats.

868
00:46:20,893 --> 00:46:23,933
Speaker 14: I can't remember the exact number, but there's there's over

869
00:46:24,013 --> 00:46:27,453
Speaker 14: two thousand country stations in the United States, and there

870
00:46:27,533 --> 00:46:31,693
Speaker 14: there really has always been a very high number of

871
00:46:31,773 --> 00:46:36,733
Speaker 14: country stations. It's one of the three pillar formats in

872
00:46:36,773 --> 00:46:43,893
Speaker 14: the United States. Black black music radio and pop or

873
00:46:43,933 --> 00:46:46,973
Speaker 14: Top forty would be the sort of third pillar. And

874
00:46:46,973 --> 00:46:49,293
Speaker 14: and these three pillars have their roots in the nineteen

875
00:46:49,333 --> 00:46:53,253
Speaker 14: twenties and the variety theme shows that would happen on

876
00:46:53,493 --> 00:46:59,093
Speaker 14: these three sort of radio types. But but I think

877
00:46:59,133 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 14: what's important to remember is that country music has a

878
00:47:02,813 --> 00:47:07,773
Speaker 14: you know, it's celebrating its one hundredth year kind of

879
00:47:07,853 --> 00:47:11,213
Speaker 14: right now as we head into twenty twenty five.

880
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:12,293
Speaker 13: Is that where we're going right now?

881
00:47:12,493 --> 00:47:14,613
Speaker 3: Yeah?

882
00:47:14,773 --> 00:47:18,573
Speaker 14: Yeah, twenty twenty five is the one hundredth anniversary of

883
00:47:18,573 --> 00:47:21,973
Speaker 14: the Grand Ole Opry, which is the very first and

884
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:26,573
Speaker 14: and sort of founding country station, which was a variety

885
00:47:26,653 --> 00:47:29,373
Speaker 14: themed show, and that still exists today. I think the

886
00:47:29,453 --> 00:47:33,533
Speaker 14: piece that's important to remember is that these issues are historic.

887
00:47:34,613 --> 00:47:38,333
Speaker 14: There are quite systemic issues that pervade society in general.

888
00:47:38,853 --> 00:47:41,653
Speaker 14: So you know, we have to remember where country came

889
00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:44,133
Speaker 14: from and the time in which it was developed, and

890
00:47:44,173 --> 00:47:50,573
Speaker 14: this was nineteen twenties United States, racially segregated country wherein

891
00:47:50,973 --> 00:47:55,813
Speaker 14: all culture, most cultural institutions were racially segregated, and then

892
00:47:55,893 --> 00:47:58,893
Speaker 14: sort of built into that framework was also different forms

893
00:47:58,893 --> 00:48:05,133
Speaker 14: of discrimination or oppression. And so women have historically been

894
00:48:05,413 --> 00:48:10,573
Speaker 14: underrepresented in all cultural spheres and country music is just

895
00:48:10,613 --> 00:48:13,533
Speaker 14: one of those places. And one of the stories we

896
00:48:13,613 --> 00:48:16,933
Speaker 14: tell in the F Word is of the Carter family

897
00:48:16,973 --> 00:48:19,293
Speaker 14: and in the nineteen twenties when they were you know,

898
00:48:20,213 --> 00:48:24,213
Speaker 14: part of those original sessions of recording artists that included

899
00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:28,053
Speaker 14: Jimmy Rogers and others. They were told a woman in

900
00:48:28,093 --> 00:48:31,213
Speaker 14: the lead will never sell, and yet we think of

901
00:48:31,253 --> 00:48:36,173
Speaker 14: them as the founding family of country music. And so

902
00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 14: that idea of women not selling or as not being

903
00:48:40,933 --> 00:48:43,693
Speaker 14: possible to sell has really been baked into the fabric

904
00:48:43,893 --> 00:48:47,533
Speaker 14: of institution that is country music, and that's a story

905
00:48:47,573 --> 00:48:54,093
Speaker 14: that women are constantly battling, that their albums won't sell,

906
00:48:54,293 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 14: that their songs won't make ratings on radio, that they

907
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:03,413
Speaker 14: can't sell out tours, and so a lot of the

908
00:49:03,493 --> 00:49:06,613
Speaker 14: industry has devised all of these sort of processes and

909
00:49:06,653 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 14: practices behind the scenes, so they won't program songs by

910
00:49:09,573 --> 00:49:12,053
Speaker 14: women back to back on radio, and they still won't

911
00:49:12,053 --> 00:49:12,293
Speaker 14: do it.

912
00:49:12,333 --> 00:49:12,733
Speaker 9: Today.

913
00:49:13,373 --> 00:49:16,973
Speaker 14: You will very rarely, if ever, see two women headlining

914
00:49:16,973 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 14: a festival or a tour. Women are discouraged from touring together.

915
00:49:23,133 --> 00:49:26,573
Speaker 14: And a lot of these ideas are very old. They

916
00:49:26,613 --> 00:49:30,213
Speaker 14: go back to the founding of the industry, and they've

917
00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:33,293
Speaker 14: just been sort of upheld for the last century. So

918
00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:36,333
Speaker 14: you can imagine if they can't be played back to back,

919
00:49:36,453 --> 00:49:40,453
Speaker 14: then it would be impossible to have a high representation

920
00:49:40,493 --> 00:49:41,973
Speaker 14: on your radio station.

921
00:49:42,853 --> 00:49:46,333
Speaker 3: In the nineties, women were played a lot more on

922
00:49:46,613 --> 00:49:49,173
Speaker 3: country radio, and I'm presuming this is the era of

923
00:49:49,533 --> 00:49:52,573
Speaker 3: Shania Twain and Faith Hell and the chicks and leanne

924
00:49:52,613 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 3: rhymes and things. Are we going backwards since then?

925
00:49:56,453 --> 00:49:58,093
Speaker 13: Absolutely? Yeah.

926
00:49:58,573 --> 00:50:03,053
Speaker 14: Nineteen ninety was the decade of highest representation of songs

927
00:50:03,053 --> 00:50:06,173
Speaker 14: by women in country in general. And while I don't

928
00:50:06,213 --> 00:50:10,413
Speaker 14: have direct radio airplay data, I can tell you that

929
00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:13,733
Speaker 14: nineteen ninety nine was the peak in terms of the

930
00:50:13,813 --> 00:50:16,653
Speaker 14: number of songs by women that charted, and it was

931
00:50:16,693 --> 00:50:20,093
Speaker 14: thirty three percent. And so you have this very slow

932
00:50:20,173 --> 00:50:23,133
Speaker 14: increase from six point five percent of the charting songs

933
00:50:23,773 --> 00:50:26,533
Speaker 14: on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart in nineteen fifty

934
00:50:26,573 --> 00:50:30,573
Speaker 14: eight to this historic peak of thirty three percent by

935
00:50:30,653 --> 00:50:33,093
Speaker 14: nineteen ninety nine, and it's declined since.

936
00:50:34,213 --> 00:50:39,573
Speaker 3: So is this an industry that's trying not to change? Yes,

937
00:50:42,053 --> 00:50:43,253
Speaker 3: just that I sunt up there.

938
00:50:44,213 --> 00:50:48,693
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the bottom line I think for an

939
00:50:48,693 --> 00:50:51,853
Speaker 14: industry like country music is that they've made a lot

940
00:50:51,933 --> 00:50:55,333
Speaker 14: of money in the way that they've done this business,

941
00:50:55,733 --> 00:50:58,973
Speaker 14: and there's no incentive for them to change if if

942
00:50:59,053 --> 00:51:02,333
Speaker 14: it's going to potentially hurt their bottom line, and they

943
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:07,213
Speaker 14: they operate sort of on this is some that any

944
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:11,133
Speaker 14: change is potentially bad for business.

945
00:51:11,573 --> 00:51:13,973
Speaker 3: So Temmy, what shape do you think the country music

946
00:51:14,053 --> 00:51:17,413
Speaker 3: genre is in New Zealand. Do we have the same

947
00:51:17,493 --> 00:51:18,853
Speaker 3: issues of representation?

948
00:51:20,413 --> 00:51:20,693
Speaker 5: Oh?

949
00:51:20,773 --> 00:51:27,453
Speaker 12: Man, I mean, we don't even have a terrestrial radio station.

950
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:32,013
Speaker 12: We don't have any country music platforms other than Southern

951
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:38,253
Speaker 12: Cross Country on iHeartRadio, which just started this year. We

952
00:51:38,253 --> 00:51:42,733
Speaker 12: don't have any country music platforms. So country music in

953
00:51:42,773 --> 00:51:47,813
Speaker 12: New Zealand has definitely been a challenge. It is the

954
00:51:47,893 --> 00:51:51,013
Speaker 12: music of the people, you know. And I remember doing

955
00:51:51,053 --> 00:51:54,893
Speaker 12: a radio interview with on a mainstream station that don't

956
00:51:54,893 --> 00:51:56,773
Speaker 12: play my music, but they wanted to talk about my

957
00:51:56,853 --> 00:52:00,413
Speaker 12: duet with Willie Nelson and they said to me, oh,

958
00:52:00,413 --> 00:52:03,053
Speaker 12: it must be real hard being a country artist here.

959
00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:05,893
Speaker 12: You know, people don't really like country music in New Zealand.

960
00:52:06,853 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 12: And I said, well, the fact that I have the

961
00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:14,133
Speaker 12: number one album in the country right now says to

962
00:52:14,173 --> 00:52:17,533
Speaker 12: me that the people of New Zealand do love country music.

963
00:52:18,413 --> 00:52:21,333
Speaker 12: It's just the fact that we do not have any outlets.

964
00:52:21,493 --> 00:52:23,973
Speaker 12: You know, when you look at the top of our

965
00:52:24,093 --> 00:52:29,013
Speaker 12: radio charts, it's populated by bands who are predominantly male,

966
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:33,733
Speaker 12: whose music is pumped out on our radio stations. Twenty

967
00:52:33,773 --> 00:52:36,093
Speaker 12: four to seven you can't go grocery shopping without hearing

968
00:52:36,133 --> 00:52:41,093
Speaker 12: them repeatedly, and which is wonderful that New Zealand music

969
00:52:41,173 --> 00:52:43,173
Speaker 12: is supported, but it would be lovely to see that

970
00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:48,173
Speaker 12: for our female artists as well. But the fact that

971
00:52:49,293 --> 00:52:52,173
Speaker 12: they're on the charts as well, but they're having this

972
00:52:52,293 --> 00:52:57,613
Speaker 12: extra layer of constant advertisement for their songs and their music,

973
00:52:57,733 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 12: and so of course they're topping the charts continually. So

974
00:53:02,293 --> 00:53:05,853
Speaker 12: for me, as an independent female country artist in New

975
00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:09,893
Speaker 12: Zealand who gets zero radio play, to be number one

976
00:53:09,893 --> 00:53:14,333
Speaker 12: on the charts is nothing but fans that that is

977
00:53:14,453 --> 00:53:19,973
Speaker 12: no help from industry or radio play, and so I

978
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:24,133
Speaker 12: do have hope in that. There's never been a time

979
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:28,893
Speaker 12: where fans can directly you know, there's not really any

980
00:53:29,693 --> 00:53:32,573
Speaker 12: of course, there are gatekeepers and algorithms on things like

981
00:53:32,613 --> 00:53:36,973
Speaker 12: Spotify and streaming, but if people love your music and

982
00:53:37,053 --> 00:53:40,813
Speaker 12: connect with your music, they don't have to go through

983
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 12: as many gatekeepers as they used to. And so that's

984
00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:46,693
Speaker 12: why someone like me can get a number one album

985
00:53:46,733 --> 00:53:49,213
Speaker 12: and can still sell out the civic in Auckland. You know,

986
00:53:49,293 --> 00:53:53,413
Speaker 12: it's the fans, it's the fan base. But without that,

987
00:53:53,533 --> 00:53:59,093
Speaker 12: the industry itself is not set up to help female

988
00:53:59,173 --> 00:54:02,693
Speaker 12: artists or country artists succeed in New Zealand.

989
00:54:02,933 --> 00:54:05,413
Speaker 3: Temmy, I think this is going to be a ripper

990
00:54:05,453 --> 00:54:08,013
Speaker 3: of a show. I mean your dynamite and concert and

991
00:54:08,053 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 3: I think here with the point that you're trying to

992
00:54:10,093 --> 00:54:11,693
Speaker 3: make in the emotion that's going to come behind it,

993
00:54:11,693 --> 00:54:14,373
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be an absolutely fantastic show.

994
00:54:15,693 --> 00:54:17,693
Speaker 12: Thank you, and I'm looking forward to it because Jada

995
00:54:18,013 --> 00:54:21,293
Speaker 12: has not been to New Zealand before and she's flying

996
00:54:21,333 --> 00:54:23,853
Speaker 12: out for us to do this. So I'll be handling

997
00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:28,213
Speaker 12: the singing and the show and Jada will be doing

998
00:54:28,253 --> 00:54:29,373
Speaker 12: the heavy lifting.

999
00:54:31,773 --> 00:54:35,653
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1013
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Speaker 13: Back, Oh thank you, Happy New Year to YouTube Fantasca.

1014
00:55:19,453 --> 00:55:21,133
Speaker 3: Hey, I had a bit of daja vo when I

1015
00:55:21,173 --> 00:55:23,813
Speaker 3: started watching The Pit. We've got Noel While, who I

1016
00:55:23,933 --> 00:55:26,653
Speaker 3: remember You're probably a bit too young from Er, but

1017
00:55:26,773 --> 00:55:28,933
Speaker 3: he is back in the emergency room. But like, hang

1018
00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:30,613
Speaker 3: on a minute, what wait, what's thatppening?

1019
00:55:31,293 --> 00:55:33,973
Speaker 15: I know it feels very familiar to see him back

1020
00:55:34,013 --> 00:55:36,533
Speaker 15: on the screen playing a doctor in this new medical

1021
00:55:36,613 --> 00:55:38,733
Speaker 15: drama which has just landed on Neon. And Yeah, if

1022
00:55:38,733 --> 00:55:40,733
Speaker 15: you are a fan of Er or you love a

1023
00:55:40,773 --> 00:55:43,893
Speaker 15: bit of an intense, fast paced medical show, you will

1024
00:55:43,973 --> 00:55:47,573
Speaker 15: enjoy this. It's set in a busy hospital in Pittsburgh

1025
00:55:47,853 --> 00:55:50,573
Speaker 15: in the States, and it's about a doctor, doctor Robbie.

1026
00:55:50,573 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 15: He's played by no While, who's leading a team of

1027
00:55:53,413 --> 00:55:57,573
Speaker 15: medical staff in an overloaded emergency department. Now, the twist

1028
00:55:57,613 --> 00:55:59,693
Speaker 15: with the Pit and what I really like about it

1029
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:02,693
Speaker 15: is that the series plays out in real time, so

1030
00:56:03,133 --> 00:56:06,093
Speaker 15: each hour long episode covers one hour in the day

1031
00:56:06,373 --> 00:56:10,693
Speaker 15: and all fifteen episodes covers the length of one medical shift,

1032
00:56:10,893 --> 00:56:14,053
Speaker 15: so the entire season takes place over one day, and

1033
00:56:14,293 --> 00:56:16,613
Speaker 15: you never really leave the hospital. Most of the scenes

1034
00:56:16,613 --> 00:56:19,933
Speaker 15: are inside, and it all just adds to the intensity

1035
00:56:19,973 --> 00:56:22,413
Speaker 15: of the show, and that builds as the season goes on.

1036
00:56:22,493 --> 00:56:25,573
Speaker 15: You know, the staff are battling with bureaucracy, there's not

1037
00:56:25,733 --> 00:56:27,813
Speaker 15: enough money, the waiting room is always full.

1038
00:56:28,053 --> 00:56:30,173
Speaker 13: There's no kind of quiet.

1039
00:56:29,893 --> 00:56:34,333
Speaker 15: Downtime here because they're always busy, and Robbie is overseeing.

1040
00:56:33,933 --> 00:56:34,693
Speaker 13: All this chaos.

1041
00:56:35,213 --> 00:56:37,453
Speaker 15: Now, of course, you can't not compare this to Er,

1042
00:56:37,573 --> 00:56:40,333
Speaker 15: mostly because Noah while start in that show as well,

1043
00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:43,213
Speaker 15: it's made by some of the same team. It's another

1044
00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:47,213
Speaker 15: similar hospital drama with lots of compelling characters, but this

1045
00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:50,893
Speaker 15: does feel quite current. The legacy and trauma of the

1046
00:56:50,933 --> 00:56:53,053
Speaker 15: pandemic is running through this as well.

1047
00:56:54,173 --> 00:56:56,013
Speaker 13: Probably not one to watch if you're squeamish.

1048
00:56:56,213 --> 00:56:58,853
Speaker 15: You know, there's some realistic scenes in here that sort

1049
00:56:58,853 --> 00:57:00,493
Speaker 15: of maybe want to go, oh, I'm not sure about this,

1050
00:57:00,853 --> 00:57:04,533
Speaker 15: but yeah, Otherwise, a very compelling, very slick medical drama.

1051
00:57:04,693 --> 00:57:06,653
Speaker 3: No, I'm very much enjoying it, and I do like

1052
00:57:06,813 --> 00:57:08,573
Speaker 3: the way, as you say, it's playing out in real

1053
00:57:08,613 --> 00:57:11,213
Speaker 3: time because a lot of these you know, a lot

1054
00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:13,333
Speaker 3: of the issues they're dealing with, they don't resolve really quickly,

1055
00:57:13,373 --> 00:57:15,413
Speaker 3: they don't resolve in one hour of drama. So it's

1056
00:57:15,453 --> 00:57:19,173
Speaker 3: quite nice to say're taking the season right. American Primeval

1057
00:57:19,213 --> 00:57:22,093
Speaker 3: is the worker director Peter Berg, And look, I know

1058
00:57:22,173 --> 00:57:25,013
Speaker 3: of him as a director who loves a bit of gory,

1059
00:57:25,453 --> 00:57:28,413
Speaker 3: raw violence, but he shoots it really well. And would

1060
00:57:28,453 --> 00:57:29,613
Speaker 3: it be fair to say that he's.

1061
00:57:29,533 --> 00:57:32,133
Speaker 13: In form here, Yes, exactly.

1062
00:57:32,173 --> 00:57:36,213
Speaker 15: That's exactly how to describe the show. This is a

1063
00:57:36,253 --> 00:57:39,533
Speaker 15: beautifully shot Western that's just come on to Netflix, but

1064
00:57:39,653 --> 00:57:43,533
Speaker 15: it is pretty brutal and pretty violent. This is currently

1065
00:57:43,533 --> 00:57:45,893
Speaker 15: the number one show on Netflix in New Zealand. And

1066
00:57:46,093 --> 00:57:49,933
Speaker 15: it's a six part Western set in eighteen fifty seven

1067
00:57:50,013 --> 00:57:53,173
Speaker 15: in Utah Territory. So it's a fictional story, but it

1068
00:57:53,213 --> 00:57:56,133
Speaker 15: takes place against real events that actually happened. And it

1069
00:57:56,253 --> 00:57:59,333
Speaker 15: follows a woman called Sarah who is trying to get

1070
00:57:59,333 --> 00:58:02,253
Speaker 15: from Philadelphia to a place called Crooked Springs, which is

1071
00:58:02,693 --> 00:58:05,653
Speaker 15: so remote and such a risky journey that nobody wants

1072
00:58:05,733 --> 00:58:06,253
Speaker 15: to take her.

1073
00:58:06,973 --> 00:58:09,333
Speaker 13: There is war everywhere. It's a very.

1074
00:58:09,293 --> 00:58:13,693
Speaker 15: Hostile, hostile time, particularly for a woman. Traveling along with

1075
00:58:13,733 --> 00:58:16,773
Speaker 15: her son. Sarah is not who she sings. She's been

1076
00:58:16,813 --> 00:58:19,253
Speaker 15: tracked by a bounty hunter for a crime that she

1077
00:58:19,293 --> 00:58:22,333
Speaker 15: committed back east, and that crime is the real reason

1078
00:58:22,373 --> 00:58:23,733
Speaker 15: that she's escaping West.

1079
00:58:23,813 --> 00:58:25,213
Speaker 13: And so this all comes out.

1080
00:58:25,013 --> 00:58:27,933
Speaker 15: To play as Sarah tries to find someone who can

1081
00:58:27,973 --> 00:58:29,813
Speaker 15: take her on this risky journey.

1082
00:58:29,733 --> 00:58:32,253
Speaker 13: And the show does not shy away from the risk.

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00:58:32,773 --> 00:58:35,533
Speaker 15: It is pretty it is pretty brutal. It's violent and

1084
00:58:36,693 --> 00:58:39,733
Speaker 15: ruthless and unrelenting. It really wants to show how hard

1085
00:58:39,773 --> 00:58:42,613
Speaker 15: life was in Utah in the eighteen fifties. But the

1086
00:58:42,733 --> 00:58:46,573
Speaker 15: storytelling pulls you in despite that. You know, it's fast paced,

1087
00:58:46,893 --> 00:58:49,973
Speaker 15: there's lots of different threads being pulled, it's beautifully shot.

1088
00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:53,973
Speaker 15: You know, it's a prestige drama for Netflix. So I'm

1089
00:58:54,013 --> 00:58:56,333
Speaker 15: really curious to see what happens with us. But again,

1090
00:58:56,573 --> 00:58:59,733
Speaker 15: not a show for the faint hearted. I did skip

1091
00:58:59,813 --> 00:59:02,893
Speaker 15: through Ford through one very long battle scene in episode one.

1092
00:59:02,933 --> 00:59:05,093
Speaker 15: But you know, if you're a Western fan, or you

1093
00:59:05,173 --> 00:59:09,173
Speaker 15: readly love a gritty, realistic show that is just pulling

1094
00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:10,893
Speaker 15: every punch, then.

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00:59:10,693 --> 00:59:13,093
Speaker 3: This is a must watch. And because I know you

1096
00:59:13,253 --> 00:59:15,013
Speaker 3: like to provide us with a little bit of variety.

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00:59:15,133 --> 00:59:17,533
Speaker 3: You've also got a bit of an old fashioned sort

1098
00:59:17,573 --> 00:59:19,533
Speaker 3: of period drama on the list to you today.

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00:59:19,813 --> 00:59:22,813
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, definite change of pace. This is The Heartachres.

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00:59:22,853 --> 00:59:26,333
Speaker 15: This is a new British drama which started on TVNZ

1101
00:59:26,493 --> 00:59:27,373
Speaker 15: one earlier.

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00:59:27,053 --> 00:59:29,253
Speaker 13: This week and it's also on TVs Plus.

1103
00:59:29,013 --> 00:59:31,773
Speaker 15: And it's made by the team behind the reboot of

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00:59:31,813 --> 00:59:34,213
Speaker 15: All Creatures, Great and Small. And if you like shows

1105
00:59:34,253 --> 00:59:37,493
Speaker 15: like Call the Midwife or Pole Dark, I think you'll.

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00:59:37,373 --> 00:59:40,213
Speaker 13: Enjoy The heart Acres. It's set in the late eighteen hundreds.

1107
00:59:40,453 --> 00:59:43,293
Speaker 15: It's a rag to riches story about a working class

1108
00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:46,853
Speaker 15: Yorkshire family who work on the docks. They are a

1109
00:59:46,853 --> 00:59:48,813
Speaker 15: bit down on their luck, but they make a couple

1110
00:59:48,853 --> 00:59:52,093
Speaker 15: of savvy business decisions and suddenly.

1111
00:59:52,213 --> 00:59:54,173
Speaker 13: Have enough money to buy the local manner.

1112
00:59:55,213 --> 00:59:57,653
Speaker 15: You shouldn't think too hard about the details in the show,

1113
00:59:57,693 --> 00:59:59,693
Speaker 15: and I think you'll be okay. But the show is

1114
00:59:59,733 --> 01:00:03,533
Speaker 15: about how they adapt to the sudden rise and status

1115
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:06,973
Speaker 15: and how their experience of how get how.

1116
01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:07,653
Speaker 3: The other hus lives.

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01:00:08,733 --> 01:00:11,773
Speaker 13: You know, it's a bit far fetched. Everyone's got lovely teeth.

1118
01:00:11,973 --> 01:00:12,133
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:00:12,173 --> 01:00:14,733
Speaker 15: They're not going for grotty realism here. But I think

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01:00:15,053 --> 01:00:17,173
Speaker 15: a lot of people will still enjoy this. I think

1121
01:00:17,213 --> 01:00:21,213
Speaker 15: this kind of gentle mora old fashioned comforting TV still

1122
01:00:21,213 --> 01:00:21,853
Speaker 15: has its place.

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01:00:21,933 --> 01:00:22,093
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:00:22,133 --> 01:00:25,573
Speaker 15: It's light, it's easy to watch, it's you know, sort

1125
01:00:25,613 --> 01:00:26,693
Speaker 15: of wonderfully soapy.

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01:00:27,053 --> 01:00:29,293
Speaker 13: But it's just a bit of romantic escapism, and I

1127
01:00:29,333 --> 01:00:30,653
Speaker 13: think sometimes.

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01:00:30,213 --> 01:00:31,053
Speaker 9: We wanted a bit of that.

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01:00:31,613 --> 01:00:34,253
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Tara. A great range of shows

1130
01:00:34,293 --> 01:00:38,333
Speaker 3: there for you. The Pit is on Neon, American Primeval

1131
01:00:38,493 --> 01:00:42,333
Speaker 3: is on Netflix, and The heartachres on tv m Z Plus.

1132
01:00:42,413 --> 01:00:44,293
Speaker 3: It is twenty seven to eleven.

1133
01:00:47,613 --> 01:00:51,533
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

1134
01:00:51,973 --> 01:00:53,893
Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB and.

1135
01:00:53,893 --> 01:00:56,773
Speaker 2: Every Want Come and Get.

1136
01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:06,893
Speaker 16: Grave, Giving You Never.

1137
01:01:08,893 --> 01:01:12,773
Speaker 3: On Friday, David Gray released his new album. It's called

1138
01:01:12,813 --> 01:01:16,453
Speaker 3: Dear Life. It is his first album since twenty twenty one.

1139
01:01:16,733 --> 01:01:20,173
Speaker 3: It's getting really good reviews. Actually, apparently the inspiration for

1140
01:01:20,213 --> 01:01:23,213
Speaker 3: the album goes back to his nineteen ninety eight breakthrough

1141
01:01:23,253 --> 01:01:26,453
Speaker 3: album White Ladder. You may remember it. It topped the

1142
01:01:26,533 --> 01:01:28,533
Speaker 3: charts in the UK. It took ages though to kind

1143
01:01:28,533 --> 01:01:30,133
Speaker 3: of build, and then it just built and took off.

1144
01:01:30,333 --> 01:01:34,013
Speaker 3: It topped the UK charts three years after its original release,

1145
01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:37,293
Speaker 3: and it kind of shifted the focus of British pop

1146
01:01:37,413 --> 01:01:40,533
Speaker 3: away from the guitar bands and sort of brought in

1147
01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:43,613
Speaker 3: this new era of sensitive solo artists. You know, he

1148
01:01:43,693 --> 01:01:45,973
Speaker 3: kind of paved the way for Adele and James Blunt

1149
01:01:45,973 --> 01:01:49,533
Speaker 3: and Ed Sheeran. Anyway, Gray calls this album an album

1150
01:01:49,533 --> 01:01:52,533
Speaker 3: of emotional crisis and resolution if that's what you need,

1151
01:01:52,533 --> 01:01:54,253
Speaker 3: and it's going to might just be what you you know,

1152
01:01:54,413 --> 01:01:57,173
Speaker 3: might be perfect for you. Looking forward to talking to

1153
01:01:57,453 --> 01:02:00,573
Speaker 3: Estelle before midday. She's going to give us her thoughts

1154
01:02:00,813 --> 01:02:02,853
Speaker 3: on the album, and David Gray will actually be on

1155
01:02:02,933 --> 01:02:06,293
Speaker 3: Saturday Mornings next weekend with Jack still to come. This

1156
01:02:06,453 --> 01:02:08,413
Speaker 3: our root climb past on what is learned from the

1157
01:02:08,573 --> 01:02:10,813
Speaker 3: messy weather this summer. And when it comes to tech,

1158
01:02:11,173 --> 01:02:13,333
Speaker 3: it tends to ebb and flow, doesn't it. When it

1159
01:02:13,333 --> 01:02:15,733
Speaker 3: comes to advancements, sometimes we've flooded with them and other

1160
01:02:15,773 --> 01:02:18,413
Speaker 3: times there's very little new stuff hitting the market. So

1161
01:02:18,533 --> 01:02:21,893
Speaker 3: as we head into twenty twenty five, has tech development

1162
01:02:22,013 --> 01:02:27,213
Speaker 3: and innovation stagnated? That is next Newstalk XVB Oscar how

1163
01:02:27,373 --> 01:02:30,093
Speaker 3: joins us now to talk tech. Good to have you

1164
01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:31,813
Speaker 3: back with us, Oscar, Happy new year.

1165
01:02:32,693 --> 01:02:35,133
Speaker 17: Happy to the years, Francesca, It's lovely to be back.

1166
01:02:35,613 --> 01:02:38,853
Speaker 3: Excellent, Hey, I was just saying before, you know, tech

1167
01:02:38,973 --> 01:02:40,493
Speaker 3: kind of ebbs and flows a bit when it comes

1168
01:02:40,533 --> 01:02:43,413
Speaker 3: to advancements, doesn't it. It feels like sometimes we're flooded with

1169
01:02:43,813 --> 01:02:47,293
Speaker 3: great new ideas and then there's sort of nothing terribly

1170
01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:49,573
Speaker 3: innovative that kind of hits the market for a while.

1171
01:02:49,973 --> 01:02:53,053
Speaker 3: So as we head into twenty twenty five, where where

1172
01:02:53,173 --> 01:02:56,213
Speaker 3: is tech development and innovation stagnated? Or do you think

1173
01:02:56,253 --> 01:02:58,573
Speaker 3: we're on a roll?

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01:02:58,653 --> 01:03:01,733
Speaker 17: I think I mean just on a From a personal perspective,

1175
01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:04,573
Speaker 17: you know, it's very hard to get excited about anything

1176
01:03:04,653 --> 01:03:07,213
Speaker 17: hit in the markets recently. You know, I think back

1177
01:03:07,253 --> 01:03:10,173
Speaker 17: to you know, two thousand and one when Steve Jobs

1178
01:03:10,173 --> 01:03:13,013
Speaker 17: pulled the first iPod out of his pocket and sent

1179
01:03:13,053 --> 01:03:16,013
Speaker 17: the world into a tailspin, or when he unveiled the

1180
01:03:16,053 --> 01:03:18,733
Speaker 17: iPhone in two thousand and seven and combined you know,

1181
01:03:18,853 --> 01:03:22,133
Speaker 17: an iPod, web browser, and a phone all than one.

1182
01:03:22,253 --> 01:03:25,573
Speaker 17: And I've been really struggling to find anything that makes

1183
01:03:25,613 --> 01:03:26,333
Speaker 17: me feel that way.

1184
01:03:26,373 --> 01:03:29,613
Speaker 3: Really, isn't all the time, Beneth that they're going into AI.

1185
01:03:30,893 --> 01:03:33,813
Speaker 17: Well, and that's what I think I spoke about last time.

1186
01:03:34,093 --> 01:03:36,293
Speaker 17: I had a good old wind about the fact that

1187
01:03:36,333 --> 01:03:38,373
Speaker 17: everything's AI powered now, and I'm kind.

1188
01:03:38,173 --> 01:03:38,773
Speaker 6: Of over it.

1189
01:03:39,773 --> 01:03:42,853
Speaker 17: But yeah, it seems that way, and I just don't

1190
01:03:42,853 --> 01:03:45,773
Speaker 17: think it's good enough. I think it's AI should not

1191
01:03:45,773 --> 01:03:48,213
Speaker 17: be an excuse for not coming up with anything cool

1192
01:03:48,253 --> 01:03:50,373
Speaker 17: and innovatives for consumers to get their handle on in

1193
01:03:50,413 --> 01:03:51,173
Speaker 17: twenty twenty five.

1194
01:03:51,373 --> 01:03:54,373
Speaker 3: So no one's actually kind of hinting at some cool

1195
01:03:54,533 --> 01:03:55,453
Speaker 3: U tech to come.

1196
01:03:56,813 --> 01:03:58,693
Speaker 17: Well, not really. I mean I had a lot of

1197
01:03:58,693 --> 01:04:01,453
Speaker 17: hopes depend on the new Nintendo Switch, which got announced

1198
01:04:02,093 --> 01:04:03,853
Speaker 17: I think it was yesterday, and I was hoping that

1199
01:04:04,373 --> 01:04:07,373
Speaker 17: with the Nintendo Switch too, they do something and exciting

1200
01:04:07,453 --> 01:04:09,333
Speaker 17: and you know, break the mold. But I mean it

1201
01:04:09,373 --> 01:04:11,853
Speaker 17: looks the same as a Nintendo sweat and that's the same,

1202
01:04:12,413 --> 01:04:14,933
Speaker 17: And you know, I feel like that translates over the phones,

1203
01:04:15,013 --> 01:04:19,813
Speaker 17: over the computers, and you know when Christmas rolls around

1204
01:04:19,893 --> 01:04:22,133
Speaker 17: and kids are their mums and dads, Hey, i'd like

1205
01:04:22,173 --> 01:04:24,613
Speaker 17: the new iPhone. And I have the new iPhone for Christmas.

1206
01:04:24,693 --> 01:04:26,733
Speaker 17: I'm sure there's a lot of parents out there just thinking,

1207
01:04:27,453 --> 01:04:29,333
Speaker 17: looks it looks the same as the last one.

1208
01:04:30,133 --> 01:04:32,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go, no, no, here's mine, and I'm going

1209
01:04:32,893 --> 01:04:35,973
Speaker 3: to get a new one. Look, I suppose I suppose

1210
01:04:36,053 --> 01:04:38,573
Speaker 3: there's kind of a silver lining to the fact that

1211
01:04:38,573 --> 01:04:40,173
Speaker 3: there are no shiny new things for us all to

1212
01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:41,733
Speaker 3: go and spend our money on. Is that you can

1213
01:04:41,813 --> 01:04:44,413
Speaker 3: just keep using the same gaming console you've got, Like,

1214
01:04:44,533 --> 01:04:48,733
Speaker 3: you know, we're not throbbing things out or moving things

1215
01:04:48,733 --> 01:04:51,453
Speaker 3: on because there's something new coming out. I suppose it's

1216
01:04:51,493 --> 01:04:53,293
Speaker 3: it's not a bad thing. We're you know, a little

1217
01:04:53,333 --> 01:04:55,973
Speaker 3: less consumerism. We're holding on to our things and looking

1218
01:04:56,053 --> 01:04:56,813
Speaker 3: after them, well.

1219
01:04:56,653 --> 01:04:57,053
Speaker 4: Aren't we.

1220
01:04:58,013 --> 01:05:01,213
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, the Sony Walkman isn't getting shuppered in a

1221
01:05:01,253 --> 01:05:03,293
Speaker 17: cupboard for the next twenty years just because the new

1222
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:05,573
Speaker 17: Idea Ink three came out, So I think it is

1223
01:05:05,573 --> 01:05:08,253
Speaker 17: probably quite good. I mean, I'm still running my computer

1224
01:05:08,373 --> 01:05:11,813
Speaker 17: from twenty twenty. As bad as that sounds coming from

1225
01:05:11,813 --> 01:05:15,493
Speaker 17: a tech commentator. You know, I've recently brought a new phone,

1226
01:05:15,493 --> 01:05:17,493
Speaker 17: but it was only out of necessity because the last

1227
01:05:17,493 --> 01:05:21,053
Speaker 17: one decided to die. So it's good.

1228
01:05:21,173 --> 01:05:23,653
Speaker 3: Tell me about the options that you that you dissolve

1229
01:05:23,693 --> 01:05:25,333
Speaker 3: when you're looking at your new phone and what you went.

1230
01:05:25,213 --> 01:05:25,693
Speaker 5: For and y.

1231
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:30,573
Speaker 17: Well, I mean very quickly. I think phones for Sunstream

1232
01:05:30,653 --> 01:05:33,253
Speaker 17: Verison seemed to be getting really expensive. You know, it

1233
01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:35,253
Speaker 17: was only about five years ago that you could go

1234
01:05:35,253 --> 01:05:38,213
Speaker 17: and buy the top of the line Huawei or Sansung

1235
01:05:38,453 --> 01:05:40,613
Speaker 17: or iPhone, and it would cost you about a grand.

1236
01:05:40,653 --> 01:05:42,453
Speaker 17: And now you know, if you go out here in

1237
01:05:42,493 --> 01:05:45,733
Speaker 17: things are two sometimes three thousand dollars for what is

1238
01:05:45,893 --> 01:05:48,533
Speaker 17: essentially the same thing as it was the year before.

1239
01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:52,093
Speaker 17: So I went and I settled for, I said, for

1240
01:05:52,133 --> 01:05:55,253
Speaker 17: a lovely little mid range phone called, wait for it,

1241
01:05:55,253 --> 01:05:59,493
Speaker 17: it's called an Oppo Reno twelve five D Pro, which

1242
01:05:59,573 --> 01:06:02,813
Speaker 17: is surely the longest name in technology at the moment.

1243
01:06:04,053 --> 01:06:06,813
Speaker 17: It was a frantic purchase the day before christ because

1244
01:06:06,813 --> 01:06:09,533
Speaker 17: my last one decided not to turn on. And yeah,

1245
01:06:09,733 --> 01:06:13,373
Speaker 17: it's perfectly functional. It's probably a really good opportunity if

1246
01:06:13,373 --> 01:06:16,173
Speaker 17: people want to upgrade their devices to have something that

1247
01:06:16,733 --> 01:06:19,973
Speaker 17: is nice and comfortable and intuitive and qupefully isn't going

1248
01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:20,613
Speaker 17: to break the bank.

1249
01:06:20,853 --> 01:06:23,133
Speaker 3: And it's got the contemporary teach on it, I.

1250
01:06:23,093 --> 01:06:25,413
Speaker 9: Presume it sure does.

1251
01:06:25,453 --> 01:06:27,533
Speaker 17: It's got all the amenities of a modern phone, and

1252
01:06:28,053 --> 01:06:31,533
Speaker 17: it's powered by AI, which you can make believe to

1253
01:06:31,573 --> 01:06:35,133
Speaker 17: be honest, but I've been playing around with the camera

1254
01:06:35,293 --> 01:06:38,293
Speaker 17: and it's got some really cool AI functions to edit

1255
01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:40,853
Speaker 17: people out of photos or things out of photos, and

1256
01:06:40,853 --> 01:06:43,533
Speaker 17: it's quite a normal tic, but yeah, pretty please with

1257
01:06:43,573 --> 01:06:45,613
Speaker 17: look so far, I'm sure there'll be an opportunity for

1258
01:06:45,653 --> 01:06:48,053
Speaker 17: me to mention it later on down the track, give

1259
01:06:48,053 --> 01:06:48,573
Speaker 17: an update and.

1260
01:06:48,573 --> 01:06:52,093
Speaker 3: How it's running brilliant, Thanks Oscar. If you were lucky

1261
01:06:52,173 --> 01:06:55,013
Speaker 3: enough to get away this summer and you enjoyed a

1262
01:06:55,013 --> 01:06:57,693
Speaker 3: classic Kiwi batch, you might have returned to work convinced

1263
01:06:57,853 --> 01:07:00,333
Speaker 3: you need a batch well. Ed McKnight talks us through

1264
01:07:00,613 --> 01:07:03,333
Speaker 3: whether it's a good idea or not next year on

1265
01:07:03,413 --> 01:07:06,213
Speaker 3: Saturday Mornings It is sixteen to eleven.

1266
01:07:07,413 --> 01:07:10,773
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Francesco.

1267
01:07:11,213 --> 01:07:14,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack dam and

1268
01:07:14,853 --> 01:07:18,613
Speaker 1: Be pure Quality Supplements for essential Energy News talks that'd be.

1269
01:07:19,813 --> 01:07:23,173
Speaker 3: And joining me now from Ope's Partners to talk money

1270
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,253
Speaker 3: is Ed McKnight. How are you ed?

1271
01:07:25,893 --> 01:07:27,973
Speaker 18: Oh, Francesca is wonderful to talk to you again.

1272
01:07:28,653 --> 01:07:29,933
Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to have a bit of

1273
01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:31,613
Speaker 3: a break or have you spent the time sort of

1274
01:07:31,653 --> 01:07:33,653
Speaker 3: moving into your new home and settling in?

1275
01:07:34,613 --> 01:07:35,293
Speaker 4: Well, do you know what?

1276
01:07:35,333 --> 01:07:38,213
Speaker 18: This is the first weekend I'm actually spending him a

1277
01:07:38,253 --> 01:07:40,693
Speaker 18: new home. Because we did manage to go on holiday.

1278
01:07:40,773 --> 01:07:43,613
Speaker 18: We headed over to the Northern Hemisphere over to Switzerland

1279
01:07:43,613 --> 01:07:44,453
Speaker 18: for a bit of skiing.

1280
01:07:44,493 --> 01:07:45,333
Speaker 4: We were very lucky.

1281
01:07:45,933 --> 01:07:48,733
Speaker 3: Okay, all right then, so you wouldn't have been sitting

1282
01:07:48,773 --> 01:07:51,573
Speaker 3: at the beach in New Zealand in a lovely sort

1283
01:07:51,573 --> 01:07:53,533
Speaker 3: of kew we back going gosh, you know that you

1284
01:07:53,613 --> 01:07:55,813
Speaker 3: might have rented for the summer going. Actually, wouldn't it

1285
01:07:55,893 --> 01:07:57,733
Speaker 3: be great if we were able to afford a batch?

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01:07:58,413 --> 01:08:01,213
Speaker 18: Well I personally wasn't, but I know that there are

1287
01:08:01,373 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 18: a lot of Kiwis who do this. Your head off

1288
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:06,133
Speaker 18: to the beach and you look at your partner and think, gosh,

1289
01:08:06,373 --> 01:08:09,013
Speaker 18: it'd be great to come back here every couple of weeks.

1290
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:12,253
Speaker 18: Maybe we should look into buying a holiday home. Well,

1291
01:08:12,253 --> 01:08:15,213
Speaker 18: I'll tell you another story. I was in Owakuni earlier

1292
01:08:15,253 --> 01:08:18,533
Speaker 18: this year, and as you're on holiday there, you walk

1293
01:08:18,613 --> 01:08:20,973
Speaker 18: past the real estate companies. You pop your head in

1294
01:08:20,973 --> 01:08:23,533
Speaker 18: the window, and if you're from one of the largest cities,

1295
01:08:23,573 --> 01:08:26,413
Speaker 18: you might look at the house prices in a smaller

1296
01:08:26,453 --> 01:08:29,453
Speaker 18: town and think, do you know what, that's not that bad.

1297
01:08:29,573 --> 01:08:32,533
Speaker 18: It's cheap compared to where we live. Maybe we should

1298
01:08:32,573 --> 01:08:35,493
Speaker 18: think about a holiday home. So what are some signs

1299
01:08:35,613 --> 01:08:37,293
Speaker 18: that it's a good idea? What are some signs that's

1300
01:08:37,333 --> 01:08:40,573
Speaker 18: a bad idea. Well, I think if you're into some

1301
01:08:40,613 --> 01:08:45,053
Speaker 18: sort of sport like boating or snow sports like skiing

1302
01:08:45,133 --> 01:08:48,213
Speaker 18: and snowboarding, then sometimes it actually can be a good

1303
01:08:48,213 --> 01:08:50,253
Speaker 18: idea to have a holiday home because you've got all

1304
01:08:50,253 --> 01:08:53,093
Speaker 18: of this equipment and you need a place to store

1305
01:08:53,133 --> 01:08:56,373
Speaker 18: your stuff, because it can be very inconvenient if every

1306
01:08:56,413 --> 01:08:58,253
Speaker 18: couple of weeks you've got to pack up your whole

1307
01:08:58,413 --> 01:09:02,733
Speaker 18: entire car and cut everything down four hours down to

1308
01:09:02,733 --> 01:09:05,693
Speaker 18: o Aacuney or wherever it happens to be, and having

1309
01:09:05,693 --> 01:09:07,773
Speaker 18: that holiday home and it can just be a really

1310
01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:10,253
Speaker 18: useful place to store your stuff. I'll tell you another

1311
01:09:10,653 --> 01:09:13,253
Speaker 18: time that buying a holiday home can be a good idea.

1312
01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:17,133
Speaker 18: Sometimes people have family batches and they've been going there

1313
01:09:17,173 --> 01:09:19,613
Speaker 18: for years and years and years, and then they get

1314
01:09:19,653 --> 01:09:22,453
Speaker 18: the opportunity to buy their parents out. Well, that can

1315
01:09:22,493 --> 01:09:24,853
Speaker 18: be an okay idea as well. But what I really

1316
01:09:24,893 --> 01:09:28,413
Speaker 18: just want to warn people against is that idea that

1317
01:09:28,533 --> 01:09:31,213
Speaker 18: sometimes you buy a holiday home and then people tell me,

1318
01:09:31,373 --> 01:09:34,733
Speaker 18: look ed, we don't actually go down to the holiday

1319
01:09:34,773 --> 01:09:37,253
Speaker 18: home to the batch as much as we thought we would.

1320
01:09:37,653 --> 01:09:40,013
Speaker 18: And so if you've already gone there, a lot, because

1321
01:09:40,013 --> 01:09:43,613
Speaker 18: it's been a family home, or because you play a sport. Well,

1322
01:09:43,653 --> 01:09:45,573
Speaker 18: those are some good signs that you're actually going to

1323
01:09:45,573 --> 01:09:49,493
Speaker 18: make good use of this property. Whereas if you've only

1324
01:09:49,533 --> 01:09:52,773
Speaker 18: gone to this place once, it might be somewhere in

1325
01:09:52,773 --> 01:09:55,453
Speaker 18: the corn Handle, and this is your first time at

1326
01:09:55,493 --> 01:09:58,293
Speaker 18: that beach, it might be a bit too hasty to say,

1327
01:09:58,533 --> 01:10:01,253
Speaker 18: let's start looking at properties because you haven't really proven

1328
01:10:01,293 --> 01:10:03,893
Speaker 18: to yourself that you are going to use this. One

1329
01:10:03,933 --> 01:10:07,773
Speaker 18: alternative I'll just suggest for people. If you are going

1330
01:10:07,773 --> 01:10:09,653
Speaker 18: to buy a holiday home, you're going to spend money

1331
01:10:09,653 --> 01:10:11,653
Speaker 18: on rates, you're going to be spending money on insurance,

1332
01:10:11,653 --> 01:10:13,973
Speaker 18: you're going to be spending on maintenance. It might be

1333
01:10:14,213 --> 01:10:17,613
Speaker 18: five grand plus a year, and one alternative to buying

1334
01:10:17,613 --> 01:10:20,453
Speaker 18: a holiday home is to take that money and just

1335
01:10:21,053 --> 01:10:24,773
Speaker 18: go to different airbnbs around the country and test out

1336
01:10:24,853 --> 01:10:27,453
Speaker 18: different spots. You know, we don't always need to have

1337
01:10:27,533 --> 01:10:30,133
Speaker 18: one solid spot that we go to every time for

1338
01:10:30,173 --> 01:10:33,413
Speaker 18: twenty years. Sometimes people get bored of that particular town

1339
01:10:33,853 --> 01:10:36,693
Speaker 18: and a better idea might just be to use that

1340
01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:39,853
Speaker 18: same amount of money you would have spent on rates, insurance,

1341
01:10:39,853 --> 01:10:42,733
Speaker 18: maintenance and go to lots of different towns.

1342
01:10:42,493 --> 01:10:44,693
Speaker 3: And of course that's the important part of it too,

1343
01:10:44,773 --> 01:10:45,013
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1344
01:10:45,173 --> 01:10:45,453
Speaker 5: VH.

1345
01:10:45,493 --> 01:10:46,893
Speaker 3: You have to work out what it is going to

1346
01:10:46,933 --> 01:10:48,853
Speaker 3: cost you and whether you will be able to maybe

1347
01:10:48,853 --> 01:10:50,773
Speaker 3: potentially read it out for the you know, for a

1348
01:10:50,773 --> 01:10:53,693
Speaker 3: period of time throughout the year, in order to contribute

1349
01:10:53,733 --> 01:10:56,213
Speaker 3: to those costs as well. Thanks so much for your thoughts.

1350
01:10:56,453 --> 01:10:56,493
Speaker 17: Ed.

1351
01:10:56,613 --> 01:10:59,173
Speaker 3: Nice to catch up with you now. If you do

1352
01:10:59,253 --> 01:11:00,733
Speaker 3: buy that bat, you generally hope that you get some

1353
01:11:00,733 --> 01:11:02,013
Speaker 3: good weather to enjoy it. But I'll tell you what

1354
01:11:02,093 --> 01:11:03,893
Speaker 3: the weather around Christmas in the year, it wasn't the

1355
01:11:03,933 --> 01:11:05,813
Speaker 3: best in some parts of the country, was it. But

1356
01:11:05,893 --> 01:11:08,213
Speaker 3: Root climb past has found a silver lining to all

1357
01:11:08,293 --> 01:11:09,653
Speaker 3: the rain, and he's with us.

1358
01:11:09,533 --> 01:11:13,293
Speaker 1: Next well, gunning with summer at steel Shaff where it's

1359
01:11:13,333 --> 01:11:16,133
Speaker 1: all about the accessories and.

1360
01:11:16,133 --> 01:11:18,253
Speaker 3: Joining me now route time past. How are you?

1361
01:11:18,973 --> 01:11:21,733
Speaker 9: I am very good, Francesca, you too. I heard your

1362
01:11:21,773 --> 01:11:24,453
Speaker 9: little story about the tennis. I thought it was great.

1363
01:11:25,813 --> 01:11:28,733
Speaker 3: I don't mind the disruptor occasionally. Last time I spoke

1364
01:11:28,733 --> 01:11:29,853
Speaker 3: to you, I mean speaking to you a little bit

1365
01:11:29,893 --> 01:11:31,653
Speaker 3: over the summer road, you were on the West coast.

1366
01:11:31,693 --> 01:11:33,493
Speaker 3: Did you have a lovely trip that the sunshine?

1367
01:11:33,533 --> 01:11:35,573
Speaker 9: I did have it? I did have a lovely trip.

1368
01:11:35,613 --> 01:11:38,013
Speaker 9: It was far warmer than it was in christ Stewart,

1369
01:11:38,693 --> 01:11:42,573
Speaker 9: and with my french son in law we went biking

1370
01:11:42,613 --> 01:11:45,373
Speaker 9: all over their mountains and things like that. That really

1371
01:11:45,453 --> 01:11:48,893
Speaker 9: tested my ability to actually keep up with the young ones.

1372
01:11:49,853 --> 01:11:53,973
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's no problem for you whatsoever. You know,

1373
01:11:54,053 --> 01:11:56,573
Speaker 3: you mentioned the weather there. It has been really this

1374
01:11:56,933 --> 01:12:00,093
Speaker 3: it has been challenging, hasn't it. It's at some times

1375
01:12:00,133 --> 01:12:02,053
Speaker 3: and at some parts over the summer so far. But

1376
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:03,773
Speaker 3: that's there's some silver linings to.

1377
01:12:03,733 --> 01:12:06,773
Speaker 9: This, there is. We talked about this, you know, the

1378
01:12:06,813 --> 01:12:11,173
Speaker 9: Wellingtonians and the christ Churchens have been really moaning ever

1379
01:12:11,213 --> 01:12:14,533
Speaker 9: since the Actually we had a really nice spring. It

1380
01:12:14,573 --> 01:12:17,693
Speaker 9: was hot and dry and all that, and suddenly, bang,

1381
01:12:18,133 --> 01:12:22,293
Speaker 9: you're absolutely right. It has its advantages and I actually

1382
01:12:22,413 --> 01:12:26,213
Speaker 9: learned about these advantages due to the fact that we

1383
01:12:26,253 --> 01:12:30,093
Speaker 9: had to go through it. Because when you have constant

1384
01:12:30,173 --> 01:12:35,093
Speaker 9: rain or a regular rain, the water will soak into

1385
01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:37,533
Speaker 9: the soil and goes to a depth of sometimes a

1386
01:12:37,573 --> 01:12:41,653
Speaker 9: foot or two feet deep, and that is absolutely wonderful

1387
01:12:41,653 --> 01:12:45,053
Speaker 9: if you want to plant plants. Now I know you

1388
01:12:45,213 --> 01:12:48,133
Speaker 9: do ornamentals, but you also do a bit of vegetables

1389
01:12:48,133 --> 01:12:50,533
Speaker 9: and things like that. It says the same with me.

1390
01:12:51,373 --> 01:12:54,093
Speaker 9: And as soon as you've got a soil that is

1391
01:12:54,213 --> 01:12:58,533
Speaker 9: literally hydrated with a lot of water, you are finding

1392
01:12:58,573 --> 01:13:01,253
Speaker 9: it a lot easier to plant those plants and to

1393
01:13:01,453 --> 01:13:03,933
Speaker 9: keep them going. And that's what happened to me. I

1394
01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:05,613
Speaker 9: had a fabulous time so far.

1395
01:13:05,973 --> 01:13:09,693
Speaker 3: What about you, Yeah, no, no, we're all. We're looking

1396
01:13:09,733 --> 01:13:13,053
Speaker 3: pretty good. Actually, it's it's wonderful to see the garden

1397
01:13:13,133 --> 01:13:16,133
Speaker 3: thriving without having to put too much human intervention in place.

1398
01:13:16,213 --> 01:13:18,013
Speaker 3: We've had a beautiful week though on Auckland, so I've

1399
01:13:18,053 --> 01:13:20,573
Speaker 3: had to water my cucumbers because they love them. They

1400
01:13:20,613 --> 01:13:22,813
Speaker 3: love the moisture and they're just they're taking off and

1401
01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:26,613
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of them. But you're though. The other

1402
01:13:26,693 --> 01:13:30,053
Speaker 3: day I was decided to change some pots around and

1403
01:13:30,093 --> 01:13:33,013
Speaker 3: I had to empty them and it was that soil

1404
01:13:33,053 --> 01:13:36,013
Speaker 3: and their roads solid it's concrete.

1405
01:13:36,333 --> 01:13:39,573
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And when you keep on having to water that,

1406
01:13:39,733 --> 01:13:42,853
Speaker 9: you actually drain out a lot of nutrients and fertilizers

1407
01:13:42,853 --> 01:13:47,013
Speaker 9: and things like that. But also things become lesterally slapping away,

1408
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:50,093
Speaker 9: and that's really what you don't want. So I've had

1409
01:13:50,093 --> 01:13:53,413
Speaker 9: a really good time with planting in that moist soil

1410
01:13:53,533 --> 01:13:57,133
Speaker 9: not over that moist, but good and moist. But then

1411
01:13:58,413 --> 01:14:01,773
Speaker 9: to me, says tomatoes, no problem. They just kept on going.

1412
01:14:01,813 --> 01:14:04,653
Speaker 9: They loved it in the tunnel house, they loved it outside.

1413
01:14:04,933 --> 01:14:07,453
Speaker 9: But here comes to the other thing. With a regular

1414
01:14:07,653 --> 01:14:12,933
Speaker 9: waterfall from the sky, there are other things that are problematic.

1415
01:14:13,173 --> 01:14:16,773
Speaker 9: And I'll give you a little example. We got quite

1416
01:14:16,813 --> 01:14:22,093
Speaker 9: a good lot of brown rot on on our fruit trees,

1417
01:14:22,253 --> 01:14:26,453
Speaker 9: and I'm talking about you know, pitches and stuff like that,

1418
01:14:26,533 --> 01:14:30,333
Speaker 9: and you've got to be really careful with that. So

1419
01:14:30,493 --> 01:14:33,893
Speaker 9: if you do have a lot of water going before

1420
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:37,893
Speaker 9: the next storm goes, what I would do is chuck

1421
01:14:37,973 --> 01:14:42,293
Speaker 9: some copper sprays on those developing fruit. That would stop

1422
01:14:42,413 --> 01:14:46,293
Speaker 9: those spores from that particular disease, the rot in this case,

1423
01:14:46,573 --> 01:14:50,373
Speaker 9: settling on your developing fruit, and you will really save

1424
01:14:50,453 --> 01:14:52,293
Speaker 9: yourself a lot of hassel at the end.

1425
01:14:52,773 --> 01:14:53,893
Speaker 3: Do you have to repeat that?

1426
01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:59,333
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, absolutely. And the reason is that these spores

1427
01:14:59,413 --> 01:15:02,693
Speaker 9: basically live for maybe a couple of weeks or a week,

1428
01:15:03,053 --> 01:15:05,773
Speaker 9: and then after that you get the next lot by

1429
01:15:05,893 --> 01:15:09,933
Speaker 9: wind on the plants. And if your copper is basically

1430
01:15:10,133 --> 01:15:13,173
Speaker 9: deteriorated on the surface of your fruit, you'll need to

1431
01:15:13,253 --> 01:15:16,773
Speaker 9: replace it with another quick copper spray. And the cool

1432
01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:21,493
Speaker 9: thing about copper sprays is it's organic. It is absolutely fabulous.

1433
01:15:21,613 --> 01:15:24,293
Speaker 3: And if you haven't got the time to be preventive

1434
01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:27,413
Speaker 3: about it, and the rod is already seated in, what's

1435
01:15:27,413 --> 01:15:27,933
Speaker 3: the solution.

1436
01:15:28,093 --> 01:15:31,093
Speaker 9: Then the thing is to get them as soon as

1437
01:15:31,093 --> 01:15:33,413
Speaker 9: you can. If you see the rod starting, get them

1438
01:15:33,413 --> 01:15:35,773
Speaker 9: as soon as you can and cut off the rod,

1439
01:15:35,813 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 9: and you'll find that the non rotting part of the

1440
01:15:38,493 --> 01:15:42,893
Speaker 9: fruit is actually edible. It doesn't taste terrible. I mean,

1441
01:15:43,173 --> 01:15:48,333
Speaker 9: unless it's reasonably if you like, grown to a place

1442
01:15:48,413 --> 01:15:51,533
Speaker 9: of time that you get some nice sweet fruit in it.

1443
01:15:51,693 --> 01:15:55,173
Speaker 9: You know, if it's too early, forget it, take it off,

1444
01:15:55,493 --> 01:15:58,613
Speaker 9: get rid of it. So you can do that. But

1445
01:15:58,653 --> 01:16:00,493
Speaker 9: the other thing, of course, what you can do then

1446
01:16:00,693 --> 01:16:04,733
Speaker 9: is you prevent not only the copper or fungicides, you know,

1447
01:16:04,773 --> 01:16:07,693
Speaker 9: if you like. But if you do that for two

1448
01:16:07,773 --> 01:16:10,293
Speaker 9: or three weeks and the brown rot, we'll start to

1449
01:16:10,333 --> 01:16:13,813
Speaker 9: moan about the brilliant weather that you're getting basically, and

1450
01:16:13,853 --> 01:16:17,173
Speaker 9: it still doesn't result, and it still doesn't result in

1451
01:16:17,213 --> 01:16:19,413
Speaker 9: brotting fruit. That's what this is about.

1452
01:16:19,973 --> 01:16:22,813
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Yes, thank you, rude, Well, it's been good, not

1453
01:16:22,893 --> 01:16:25,013
Speaker 3: to have have the neighbors come over. Hasn't it to

1454
01:16:25,093 --> 01:16:25,813
Speaker 3: water the garden?

1455
01:16:27,493 --> 01:16:28,013
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1456
01:16:28,253 --> 01:16:30,933
Speaker 9: It worked byself. Thank you, Thank you.

1457
01:16:31,053 --> 01:16:33,373
Speaker 3: Rude always on to catch up with you when we

1458
01:16:33,453 --> 01:16:36,813
Speaker 3: come back after News and Sport, which is next here

1459
01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:39,933
Speaker 3: on News Talks, he'd be, we're going to we're going

1460
01:16:40,013 --> 01:16:41,533
Speaker 3: to think about how to start the year with a

1461
01:16:41,533 --> 01:16:44,533
Speaker 3: little bit of oomph. You know, twenty twenty four was

1462
01:16:44,533 --> 01:16:46,813
Speaker 3: pretty tough for many people. Twenty twenty five is a

1463
01:16:46,933 --> 01:16:49,653
Speaker 3: chance to reset in many ways, so we're going to

1464
01:16:49,693 --> 01:16:51,373
Speaker 3: have a chat about that. Shortly. You're on News Talks.

1465
01:16:51,413 --> 01:16:51,813
Speaker 3: You've been.

1466
01:17:01,773 --> 01:17:02,133
Speaker 9: Again.

1467
01:17:04,573 --> 01:17:13,133
Speaker 1: Music Saturday Mornings with Francesca rudgn in for Jack Daim

1468
01:17:13,373 --> 01:17:17,533
Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going through the weekends with bepure quality

1469
01:17:17,573 --> 01:17:20,133
Speaker 1: Supplements for essential Energy, Youth Talks at be.

1470
01:17:42,733 --> 01:17:45,893
Speaker 3: Coming up this out here on Saturday Mornings. We're gonna

1471
01:17:45,933 --> 01:17:48,373
Speaker 3: walk through the vines and blend them with Mark Yardley.

1472
01:17:48,773 --> 01:17:52,533
Speaker 3: Jason Pine joins us from the sale GP headquarters in Auckland,

1473
01:17:52,773 --> 01:17:56,493
Speaker 3: and Catherine Rains keeps the holiday going with some enjoyable

1474
01:17:56,613 --> 01:18:02,013
Speaker 3: summer reads. Francesca, we are kicking off this hour talking

1475
01:18:02,133 --> 01:18:04,373
Speaker 3: about well being and no doubt you might be one

1476
01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:06,293
Speaker 3: of those people that spends a bit of time over

1477
01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:10,093
Speaker 3: the holidays reflecting on the year that's been and looking

1478
01:18:10,093 --> 01:18:12,693
Speaker 3: ahead to the year. You know, at a twenty twenty

1479
01:18:12,773 --> 01:18:15,493
Speaker 3: five you may be the kind of person that puts

1480
01:18:15,533 --> 01:18:17,733
Speaker 3: New Year's resolutions in place, or maybe you just take

1481
01:18:17,773 --> 01:18:20,013
Speaker 3: a little bit more time to think about some As

1482
01:18:20,573 --> 01:18:22,973
Speaker 3: I know, it is quite trendy these days to do.

1483
01:18:23,053 --> 01:18:26,373
Speaker 3: You do your enlist and your outlist for twenty twenty five.

1484
01:18:26,413 --> 01:18:27,933
Speaker 3: You look at the things you're going to bring into

1485
01:18:27,973 --> 01:18:29,733
Speaker 3: your life, look at the things are going to get

1486
01:18:29,813 --> 01:18:32,453
Speaker 3: out of your life. Anyway, you might just kind of

1487
01:18:32,453 --> 01:18:34,853
Speaker 3: want a little bit of you know, I like this

1488
01:18:34,933 --> 01:18:37,973
Speaker 3: word to get into the year. So joining us now

1489
01:18:38,133 --> 01:18:41,733
Speaker 3: is Doogle Sutherland. Good morning, Nice to talk to you again.

1490
01:18:43,933 --> 01:18:45,253
Speaker 19: Much to talk to you as well.

1491
01:18:46,653 --> 01:18:48,253
Speaker 3: How was your twenty twenty four.

1492
01:18:49,653 --> 01:18:53,453
Speaker 19: Oh it was not one that I would want to

1493
01:18:53,493 --> 01:18:58,573
Speaker 19: repeat again, except so I said to somebody the other day.

1494
01:18:58,613 --> 01:19:01,333
Speaker 19: The first ten months were rubbish. The last two were

1495
01:19:01,333 --> 01:19:01,813
Speaker 19: pretty good.

1496
01:19:01,893 --> 01:19:03,013
Speaker 4: Oh well that's good.

1497
01:19:04,053 --> 01:19:04,293
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1498
01:19:04,333 --> 01:19:07,693
Speaker 19: On balance, I don't think I would want to have another.

1499
01:19:07,933 --> 01:19:10,133
Speaker 19: The only bright spark, and it came at the very

1500
01:19:10,213 --> 01:19:16,093
Speaker 19: very very end, is we welcomed our first grandchild into wonderful.

1501
01:19:16,773 --> 01:19:21,213
Speaker 3: It doesn't get you know, more joyful than that, does it.

1502
01:19:21,773 --> 01:19:23,693
Speaker 19: No. No, So that was a that was a nice

1503
01:19:23,693 --> 01:19:25,493
Speaker 19: way to end the year. But apart from that, I

1504
01:19:25,533 --> 01:19:27,013
Speaker 19: don't think i'd want to repeat the rest of it.

1505
01:19:27,173 --> 01:19:28,573
Speaker 3: No, And I think a lot of people have felt

1506
01:19:28,613 --> 01:19:31,013
Speaker 3: the same way. You know, we've had job losses, you know,

1507
01:19:31,053 --> 01:19:35,733
Speaker 3: with its economic times a tough you know, people you

1508
01:19:35,773 --> 01:19:39,733
Speaker 3: know are really sort of struggling to remain positive in things.

1509
01:19:39,773 --> 01:19:41,773
Speaker 3: And I think when you you know, heading into a

1510
01:19:41,813 --> 01:19:44,533
Speaker 3: new year is a great time, isn't it google to

1511
01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:46,613
Speaker 3: sort of start having a think about the year ahead

1512
01:19:46,653 --> 01:19:50,053
Speaker 3: and the changes that you'd like to make. What are

1513
01:19:50,093 --> 01:19:54,813
Speaker 3: some of your top tips for starting the year? Well, yeah, well.

1514
01:19:54,693 --> 01:19:58,373
Speaker 19: I've got I've got pulled together five tips. Now I

1515
01:19:58,373 --> 01:20:01,533
Speaker 19: should say, don't if you're listening, don't try and do

1516
01:20:01,653 --> 01:20:05,653
Speaker 19: all five because you're probably spectacularly fail at all of

1517
01:20:05,693 --> 01:20:10,053
Speaker 19: them and then you'll feel terrible. So I think choose one,

1518
01:20:10,413 --> 01:20:12,813
Speaker 19: maybe two that resonate with you.

1519
01:20:13,333 --> 01:20:14,173
Speaker 6: And I think you're right.

1520
01:20:14,213 --> 01:20:16,093
Speaker 19: You know, this time of the year, we've got a

1521
01:20:16,133 --> 01:20:17,773
Speaker 19: little bit of extra time. On her hand, it's not

1522
01:20:17,813 --> 01:20:20,973
Speaker 19: a bad time to stop and reflect. I think the

1523
01:20:21,133 --> 01:20:22,853
Speaker 19: very first thing, And actually it was something my wife

1524
01:20:22,893 --> 01:20:25,733
Speaker 19: said to me the other day we both started back

1525
01:20:25,773 --> 01:20:28,293
Speaker 19: at work, and she said she had to sort of

1526
01:20:28,533 --> 01:20:30,213
Speaker 19: rally yourself to get out of the car in the

1527
01:20:30,213 --> 01:20:33,493
Speaker 19: morning when she got to work, but she reminded herself

1528
01:20:33,493 --> 01:20:35,853
Speaker 19: that she was thankful that she actually had a job.

1529
01:20:36,573 --> 01:20:39,373
Speaker 19: And for many people, of course, last year, whether you're

1530
01:20:39,373 --> 01:20:41,413
Speaker 19: in the public or the private sector, there was job

1531
01:20:41,453 --> 01:20:44,333
Speaker 19: losses and job cuts and I know some might still

1532
01:20:44,373 --> 01:20:47,053
Speaker 19: be continuing. So I think that might be the first

1533
01:20:47,053 --> 01:20:49,293
Speaker 19: thing I would say is count your blessings. If you've

1534
01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:52,253
Speaker 19: got a job, then be thankful for it. Maybe it's

1535
01:20:52,293 --> 01:20:54,093
Speaker 19: not the best job that you've ever had, and maybe

1536
01:20:54,093 --> 01:20:56,333
Speaker 19: you want to change and that's okay, but be thankful

1537
01:20:56,333 --> 01:20:58,853
Speaker 19: that you've actually got a job, because many people don't

1538
01:20:59,333 --> 01:21:01,453
Speaker 19: or at least lost their job last year.

1539
01:21:02,213 --> 01:21:06,453
Speaker 3: My guest as Doogle Sutherland, principal psychologist and CEO of

1540
01:21:06,613 --> 01:21:10,293
Speaker 3: Umbrella Well being no very good point you make, their Doogle,

1541
01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:12,653
Speaker 3: And if it's not the job you want, you've got

1542
01:21:12,653 --> 01:21:14,293
Speaker 3: all the time in the years to make some plans

1543
01:21:14,333 --> 01:21:16,213
Speaker 3: to get the job you do want. But it is

1544
01:21:16,253 --> 01:21:19,053
Speaker 3: always good just to go hang on a minute, you know. Yeah,

1545
01:21:19,173 --> 01:21:21,053
Speaker 3: the world's not falling apart. I've still got my job.

1546
01:21:21,133 --> 01:21:21,893
Speaker 4: The world's done.

1547
01:21:22,053 --> 01:21:24,573
Speaker 19: I've still got a job, I've still got some income. Look,

1548
01:21:24,613 --> 01:21:27,013
Speaker 19: I think if you have got a job, then then

1549
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:29,533
Speaker 19: one thing I really liked to do, and I did

1550
01:21:29,533 --> 01:21:32,973
Speaker 19: it earlier in the week, was plan out your holidays

1551
01:21:32,973 --> 01:21:36,173
Speaker 19: for the year as best as you can. And I

1552
01:21:36,213 --> 01:21:39,293
Speaker 19: know there are lots of hacks around this, like hacks,

1553
01:21:39,293 --> 01:21:41,293
Speaker 19: I mean, And one thing I like to do is

1554
01:21:41,333 --> 01:21:43,773
Speaker 19: have a look through the year. When are the public

1555
01:21:43,813 --> 01:21:47,733
Speaker 19: holidays falling? Can I take a day, you know, before

1556
01:21:47,773 --> 01:21:50,493
Speaker 19: that to convert a three day weekend into an actual

1557
01:21:50,533 --> 01:21:53,493
Speaker 19: four day weekend, which feels a bit bigger. When are

1558
01:21:53,533 --> 01:21:55,693
Speaker 19: the big gaps? Like I noticed, there's a big gap

1559
01:21:55,733 --> 01:21:58,413
Speaker 19: from July to October where there are antni public holidays

1560
01:21:58,453 --> 01:22:01,173
Speaker 19: at all. So make sure that you've got some leave

1561
01:22:01,253 --> 01:22:04,573
Speaker 19: scheduled into those times. I try and make sure that

1562
01:22:04,573 --> 01:22:06,853
Speaker 19: I'm taking some time off, even if it to day

1563
01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:11,773
Speaker 19: about every six weeks, just to keep those batteries recharged. Otherwise,

1564
01:22:11,813 --> 01:22:13,773
Speaker 19: you know, the year gets busy, your diary gets filled,

1565
01:22:13,813 --> 01:22:15,733
Speaker 19: and by the time you know it, you go, oh gee,

1566
01:22:15,733 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 19: it's it's October and I haven't taken any leave, so

1567
01:22:18,373 --> 01:22:19,853
Speaker 19: do a bit of planning ahead. That would be my

1568
01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:24,373
Speaker 19: second tip. My third tip would be, and I started

1569
01:22:24,373 --> 01:22:27,133
Speaker 19: doing this myself a couple of years ago, make a

1570
01:22:27,213 --> 01:22:30,613
Speaker 19: daily list and imagine there are three columns in this list.

1571
01:22:30,733 --> 01:22:33,573
Speaker 19: So you've got you have to do things. Those are

1572
01:22:33,573 --> 01:22:35,573
Speaker 19: things obviously that you know you've got to go today.

1573
01:22:36,693 --> 01:22:39,813
Speaker 19: Then the second or the second column is hope to

1574
01:22:40,013 --> 01:22:41,693
Speaker 19: what are the things that I hope to do today.

1575
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:43,293
Speaker 19: I don't have to do them, and if I get

1576
01:22:43,293 --> 01:22:45,893
Speaker 19: to them, it's great. And the third column, this is

1577
01:22:46,013 --> 01:22:47,853
Speaker 19: this is the key one, I think, is what do

1578
01:22:47,893 --> 01:22:49,573
Speaker 19: I love? What am I going to do today that

1579
01:22:49,653 --> 01:22:51,773
Speaker 19: I love to do today? And that might just be

1580
01:22:51,853 --> 01:22:54,093
Speaker 19: one thing. It might be something that you're doing at work,

1581
01:22:54,173 --> 01:22:56,053
Speaker 19: or it might be something you're doing at home or

1582
01:22:56,053 --> 01:22:58,733
Speaker 19: with the family or in the evening. But make sure

1583
01:22:58,773 --> 01:23:02,293
Speaker 19: that at least once a day there's something that's filling

1584
01:23:02,373 --> 01:23:06,013
Speaker 19: up your your cup of goodness of well being, that's

1585
01:23:06,013 --> 01:23:09,253
Speaker 19: something that you're actually enjoying, because I think otherwise, if

1586
01:23:09,253 --> 01:23:11,493
Speaker 19: we're just doing all the have tos, we can sometimes

1587
01:23:11,493 --> 01:23:13,893
Speaker 19: feel a bit drained by the time we come to

1588
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 19: the end.

1589
01:23:14,173 --> 01:23:14,533
Speaker 9: Of the day.

1590
01:23:14,813 --> 01:23:17,653
Speaker 3: That makes a list a lot more appealing, and it

1591
01:23:17,693 --> 01:23:19,573
Speaker 3: makes it it sort of makes you want to encourage

1592
01:23:19,613 --> 01:23:21,853
Speaker 3: to write the list for the next day. That taking

1593
01:23:21,853 --> 01:23:23,773
Speaker 3: a bit of a pressure off with the with the

1594
01:23:23,853 --> 01:23:25,373
Speaker 3: have to and the hope to as well.

1595
01:23:26,293 --> 01:23:28,133
Speaker 19: It does Yeah, And I think you can go back

1596
01:23:28,173 --> 01:23:29,853
Speaker 19: and track it and say, oh, have I done anything

1597
01:23:29,853 --> 01:23:32,653
Speaker 19: that I've loved to do in the last day or two?

1598
01:23:32,693 --> 01:23:36,613
Speaker 19: Oor g, I haven't, I think too. You know, as

1599
01:23:36,653 --> 01:23:38,773
Speaker 19: we talked about force that it would be just take

1600
01:23:38,853 --> 01:23:41,653
Speaker 19: some time to reflect on the year. What did you

1601
01:23:41,813 --> 01:23:45,053
Speaker 19: learn from it, particularly if it was a time of

1602
01:23:45,173 --> 01:23:47,493
Speaker 19: change for you. I think often when we've been through

1603
01:23:47,493 --> 01:23:50,133
Speaker 19: a big time of change, our tendency is to just

1604
01:23:50,173 --> 01:23:52,093
Speaker 19: sort of try and forget about it. God, that was awful.

1605
01:23:52,093 --> 01:23:54,533
Speaker 19: I just don't want to think about it again. But

1606
01:23:54,813 --> 01:23:57,813
Speaker 19: if it's if it's if you're okay emotionally to go

1607
01:23:57,853 --> 01:24:01,213
Speaker 19: back there and it's it's not too distressing, go back

1608
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:03,973
Speaker 19: and think about Okay, Actually, let's have a look at

1609
01:24:04,013 --> 01:24:07,853
Speaker 19: the year. What what what did I learn from the year?

1610
01:24:07,933 --> 01:24:11,533
Speaker 19: What if I was confronted with a similar situation again

1611
01:24:11,573 --> 01:24:14,933
Speaker 19: in the future, what would I do the same? And

1612
01:24:15,013 --> 01:24:16,853
Speaker 19: is there anything that I would not do? Is there

1613
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:19,613
Speaker 19: any sort of lessons that I've learned from this year

1614
01:24:20,373 --> 01:24:23,973
Speaker 19: that I would not want to repeat and sort of

1615
01:24:24,053 --> 01:24:26,173
Speaker 19: use those as a guiding list as to how you

1616
01:24:26,293 --> 01:24:29,373
Speaker 19: perhaps might approach the next big change that's going to

1617
01:24:29,373 --> 01:24:31,133
Speaker 19: come up in life.

1618
01:24:32,413 --> 01:24:36,253
Speaker 3: Whenever I read doogle about happiness and things, and you

1619
01:24:36,293 --> 01:24:40,773
Speaker 3: look at some of the extremely long longevity studies which

1620
01:24:40,813 --> 01:24:43,693
Speaker 3: take place in the United States and things. They'll often

1621
01:24:43,773 --> 01:24:46,493
Speaker 3: say to you when they've looked at generations of people

1622
01:24:46,693 --> 01:24:49,013
Speaker 3: that the thing that makes them most happy at the

1623
01:24:49,053 --> 01:24:51,133
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's not money or what they

1624
01:24:51,293 --> 01:24:54,373
Speaker 3: achieved or anything like that. It's the connections and the

1625
01:24:54,413 --> 01:24:57,053
Speaker 3: relationships that they have with people in their lives. And

1626
01:24:57,093 --> 01:24:58,893
Speaker 3: I see that this is kind of your fifth tip.

1627
01:25:00,413 --> 01:25:04,453
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, I think you know, relationships are key and

1628
01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:10,773
Speaker 19: they glue us together over but not all relationships are

1629
01:25:10,773 --> 01:25:16,893
Speaker 19: created equal, and sometimes relationship the quality ones. Yeah, sometimes

1630
01:25:16,893 --> 01:25:19,773
Speaker 19: we're in relationships that maybe don't bring out the best

1631
01:25:19,813 --> 01:25:22,413
Speaker 19: in us, or that we're simply kind of you know,

1632
01:25:22,493 --> 01:25:25,853
Speaker 19: we're in because we kind of feel a sense of obligation,

1633
01:25:27,173 --> 01:25:29,733
Speaker 19: and weirdly, one of my tips is actually, think about,

1634
01:25:29,773 --> 01:25:32,973
Speaker 19: are there any relationships that perhaps aren't the best for

1635
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:35,893
Speaker 19: you to be in? And maybe should you think about

1636
01:25:36,533 --> 01:25:40,133
Speaker 19: just not ghosting somebody, but just sort of turning down

1637
01:25:40,173 --> 01:25:42,613
Speaker 19: the heat on a relationship. Are there any relationships that

1638
01:25:42,653 --> 01:25:45,213
Speaker 19: you kind of think, actually, when I'm around this person

1639
01:25:45,253 --> 01:25:47,573
Speaker 19: that doesn't always go well, I kind of don't really

1640
01:25:47,693 --> 01:25:50,373
Speaker 19: enjoy it. We don't really get anything out of it.

1641
01:25:51,493 --> 01:25:53,573
Speaker 19: And actually maybe it's not one that I want to

1642
01:25:53,573 --> 01:25:56,213
Speaker 19: invest a lot of time. And look, it's okay to

1643
01:25:56,253 --> 01:25:58,613
Speaker 19: do that. I mean, do it politely, do it kindly,

1644
01:25:59,213 --> 01:26:00,853
Speaker 19: and I say, you don't have to ghost people. But

1645
01:26:00,933 --> 01:26:04,293
Speaker 19: maybe it's there comes to times sometimes when we want

1646
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:07,053
Speaker 19: to focus on the quality, as you mentioned, rather than

1647
01:26:07,133 --> 01:26:10,253
Speaker 19: the quantity. So that might be another thing for people

1648
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:12,813
Speaker 19: to consider as they go into this new year.

1649
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:15,893
Speaker 3: Wonderful tips for us. Thank you so much, Doogle. Nice

1650
01:26:15,893 --> 01:26:18,133
Speaker 3: to catch up with your doggle as a principal psychologist

1651
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:22,133
Speaker 3: and CEO of Umbrella Well Being. Up next, we're off

1652
01:26:22,133 --> 01:26:25,093
Speaker 3: to blend them with Mike Yardley Travel.

1653
01:26:24,813 --> 01:26:28,373
Speaker 2: With Windy Woo Tours. Where the world is yours for now?

1654
01:26:29,453 --> 01:26:31,253
Speaker 3: Mike Yardi joins us now to talk travel.

1655
01:26:31,413 --> 01:26:35,133
Speaker 20: Good morning, Good morning, Francisca. Happing you here. You must

1656
01:26:35,133 --> 01:26:37,413
Speaker 20: feel like you're working eight days a week.

1657
01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:43,613
Speaker 3: I might be starting to count down now, I've got yeah,

1658
01:26:43,693 --> 01:26:47,173
Speaker 3: no next next Sunday. I'm I'm working every day on

1659
01:26:47,253 --> 01:26:49,493
Speaker 3: through till next Sunday and then I get a week off.

1660
01:26:49,533 --> 01:26:51,693
Speaker 3: But I've had a lovely summer. I've had a great summer.

1661
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:54,613
Speaker 3: I've done all sorts of different shows, and I loved

1662
01:26:54,693 --> 01:26:58,373
Speaker 3: talking to lots of our listeners on summer afternoons. And

1663
01:26:58,453 --> 01:27:00,053
Speaker 3: you know, I've had a ball loving.

1664
01:26:59,893 --> 01:27:02,493
Speaker 20: That good stuff. Yeah, good stuff. You're doing God's work.

1665
01:27:03,613 --> 01:27:07,173
Speaker 3: Well, not really, but thank you very much. Mike Hey.

1666
01:27:07,613 --> 01:27:11,533
Speaker 3: Blenham gorgeous place, especially around this time of the year.

1667
01:27:11,813 --> 01:27:13,813
Speaker 3: Let's start with the wine scene, shall.

1668
01:27:13,693 --> 01:27:17,813
Speaker 20: We, definitely? And I think if you're looking for the

1669
01:27:17,933 --> 01:27:20,853
Speaker 20: ultimate place to dine in Blenhim, I think it's hard

1670
01:27:20,853 --> 01:27:24,813
Speaker 20: to beat with a Hell's celador and restaurant. Because the

1671
01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:28,973
Speaker 20: namesake Winery adorns those biscuit brown hells, you get the

1672
01:27:29,173 --> 01:27:32,853
Speaker 20: most panoramic views across the Waida Plain. And when it

1673
01:27:32,893 --> 01:27:36,013
Speaker 20: comes to Winery Finery, what I love about the venue

1674
01:27:36,093 --> 01:27:39,453
Speaker 20: is that it is just the elemental brilliance of with

1675
01:27:39,613 --> 01:27:43,533
Speaker 20: a Hell's cracking spot for lunch. In fact, don't miss

1676
01:27:43,573 --> 01:27:47,373
Speaker 20: the parmesan Barantini Francesca. I think that is the hits

1677
01:27:47,373 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 20: for lunch there, and you can swallow among the vines

1678
01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:55,493
Speaker 20: in the vine library, which showcases several dozen varieties that

1679
01:27:56,413 --> 01:27:59,253
Speaker 20: with the Hell's pumps out best of all. The barrel hall.

1680
01:27:59,453 --> 01:28:03,813
Speaker 20: I just think you something incredible about the combined scent

1681
01:28:04,733 --> 01:28:08,813
Speaker 20: of oak and yet, which is what sort of consumes

1682
01:28:08,853 --> 01:28:11,093
Speaker 20: you when you go in the barrel hall at weather Hills.

1683
01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:13,013
Speaker 20: But obviously you need to have a bit of a

1684
01:28:13,053 --> 01:28:15,533
Speaker 20: wine tasting, and I would go with a single vineyard

1685
01:28:15,613 --> 01:28:18,933
Speaker 20: wine flight at weather Hells because obviously they do very

1686
01:28:18,933 --> 01:28:22,853
Speaker 20: good sobernon blanc, but they also do excellent pen and wire.

1687
01:28:22,933 --> 01:28:24,733
Speaker 20: And what I love about the pin and wire is

1688
01:28:24,733 --> 01:28:29,333
Speaker 20: it's very fruit ford, very light bodied pinot, bursting with

1689
01:28:29,453 --> 01:28:32,293
Speaker 20: plums and cherries and oak spice and all those good

1690
01:28:32,293 --> 01:28:37,573
Speaker 20: summary things. And if you need bubbles, they also collaborate

1691
01:28:37,613 --> 01:28:39,693
Speaker 20: a lot with daniel lebron so you can go wrong

1692
01:28:39,733 --> 01:28:41,133
Speaker 20: with a bit of Daniels bubbles.

1693
01:28:41,733 --> 01:28:45,493
Speaker 3: We're getting the travel and wind all in one today.

1694
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:48,173
Speaker 3: The great thing is, as you mentioned it as a plane,

1695
01:28:48,293 --> 01:28:50,693
Speaker 3: and I do that's when that's when I get on

1696
01:28:50,733 --> 01:28:51,973
Speaker 3: a bike. When there's a plan.

1697
01:28:52,773 --> 01:28:54,133
Speaker 20: Oh my goodness, it is quite.

1698
01:28:53,933 --> 01:28:57,053
Speaker 3: A lovely area to travel around via bike, isn't it?

1699
01:28:57,213 --> 01:29:00,213
Speaker 20: Tailor made for it? Absolutely? I hoked up with Explore

1700
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:03,173
Speaker 20: marlbra and they do really good wine tours, so you

1701
01:29:03,173 --> 01:29:05,613
Speaker 20: can do like your self guided to on a trusty

1702
01:29:05,693 --> 01:29:09,533
Speaker 20: bike or vike if you're feeling rather leisurely. They also

1703
01:29:09,613 --> 01:29:13,533
Speaker 20: do sort of guided to us by vehicle if you

1704
01:29:13,573 --> 01:29:16,213
Speaker 20: want to actually go beyond the White O Plane and

1705
01:29:16,213 --> 01:29:18,333
Speaker 20: to say, like the Arb Terri Valley and so forth.

1706
01:29:18,373 --> 01:29:21,093
Speaker 20: But yeah, kick yourself out with a bike and over

1707
01:29:21,133 --> 01:29:24,493
Speaker 20: the next few hours just total your way around White

1708
01:29:24,493 --> 01:29:27,933
Speaker 20: O Plane. He's actually this fantastic stop bank on the

1709
01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:33,573
Speaker 20: white O River which is close to Vines Village and

1710
01:29:33,933 --> 01:29:37,733
Speaker 20: mcanna Chocolates if you so fancy. And the really cool

1711
01:29:37,773 --> 01:29:40,413
Speaker 20: thing about riding along that stop bank, Francesca is you

1712
01:29:40,453 --> 01:29:42,573
Speaker 20: get a little bit of elevation, so you just get

1713
01:29:42,973 --> 01:29:46,933
Speaker 20: an even broader, more expensive view across all of the

1714
01:29:47,173 --> 01:29:51,773
Speaker 20: all of the vineyards, just you coolically, it is just gorgeous.

1715
01:29:52,173 --> 01:29:53,453
Speaker 3: Any other special stomps.

1716
01:29:54,813 --> 01:29:57,693
Speaker 20: I really fell in love with Hans hr Zog Estate.

1717
01:29:58,693 --> 01:30:03,293
Speaker 20: It's one of New Zealand's most acclaimed wineries. It's fully

1718
01:30:03,373 --> 01:30:07,413
Speaker 20: organic and hands himself. He planted the Pinot Gree and

1719
01:30:07,533 --> 01:30:11,973
Speaker 20: the Vignier and the mold Monty Paul jar nol over

1720
01:30:12,213 --> 01:30:15,933
Speaker 20: thirty years ago and these will all actually really seen

1721
01:30:16,093 --> 01:30:20,253
Speaker 20: varieties back in the day thirty years ago. And it's

1722
01:30:20,293 --> 01:30:22,893
Speaker 20: such an intimate vineyard, so you can, you know, take

1723
01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:25,053
Speaker 20: a wander around the vinyard and you really feel it

1724
01:30:25,213 --> 01:30:29,613
Speaker 20: one with the whole hands Huzog spirit. The wine tastings

1725
01:30:29,653 --> 01:30:34,813
Speaker 20: there are just so elegantly presented quite sort of high

1726
01:30:34,933 --> 01:30:37,333
Speaker 20: end without being pretentious, if you know what I mean.

1727
01:30:37,373 --> 01:30:40,133
Speaker 20: But you just feel like you're somewhere really special. And

1728
01:30:40,173 --> 01:30:44,253
Speaker 20: they're all small batch, artisan wines snapped up by discerning

1729
01:30:44,613 --> 01:30:47,533
Speaker 20: wine lovers worldwide. Most of his wine ends up, you know,

1730
01:30:47,533 --> 01:30:48,693
Speaker 20: in Europe and North America.

1731
01:30:49,373 --> 01:30:52,493
Speaker 3: Wonderful. But it's not just all about the grape.

1732
01:30:52,213 --> 01:30:56,093
Speaker 20: Is it that if you want to swap your wine

1733
01:30:56,133 --> 01:31:00,773
Speaker 20: fort some bears. Blenham has a thriving craft scene and

1734
01:31:01,013 --> 01:31:06,613
Speaker 20: I love Boomtown Brewing Company. They do fabulous easy king

1735
01:31:06,693 --> 01:31:09,733
Speaker 20: kraft bears and between now and until the end of

1736
01:31:09,813 --> 01:31:13,653
Speaker 20: April they've got this fabulous beer garden at Forest Wine.

1737
01:31:13,693 --> 01:31:17,653
Speaker 20: So it's called Boomtown in the Forest, very park like

1738
01:31:17,773 --> 01:31:22,733
Speaker 20: setting at Forest Data wines and Yeah fresh tap bears,

1739
01:31:22,773 --> 01:31:26,333
Speaker 20: sun relaxed fibes and the warmer months right through the April.

1740
01:31:26,373 --> 01:31:29,373
Speaker 20: It's I must do. Also check out DNA Brewery and

1741
01:31:29,413 --> 01:31:32,533
Speaker 20: I'm also a big fan of Moa Brewery once again,

1742
01:31:32,613 --> 01:31:35,693
Speaker 20: shady lawns, lots of food trucks. What I love about

1743
01:31:35,773 --> 01:31:39,053
Speaker 20: Moa is they have kept all of their products affordable,

1744
01:31:39,253 --> 01:31:43,773
Speaker 20: accessible and sessionable, and they're always switching up their repertoire.

1745
01:31:43,813 --> 01:31:45,773
Speaker 20: I think this has got your name on it, Francesco

1746
01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:50,053
Speaker 20: Apple and Rhubarb's Cider. So this is like a very

1747
01:31:50,173 --> 01:31:54,973
Speaker 20: sort of delicate tart flavor, very crisp cider. It sings

1748
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:58,093
Speaker 20: happy summer days. It's kind of like the cider equivalent

1749
01:31:58,173 --> 01:32:02,533
Speaker 20: of a glass of Rose's.

1750
01:32:00,653 --> 01:32:03,453
Speaker 3: Time to get thirsty. I've also had a lot of

1751
01:32:03,493 --> 01:32:06,213
Speaker 3: people talk about the Roots gin shack. That's really popular too,

1752
01:32:06,373 --> 01:32:06,733
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1753
01:32:07,293 --> 01:32:10,133
Speaker 20: Ah, It's a runaway hit and Roots is one of

1754
01:32:10,133 --> 01:32:13,613
Speaker 20: our biggest global award winning gin so bea Drive Gen

1755
01:32:13,893 --> 01:32:18,453
Speaker 20: won the World's Best Gin in twenty twenty three at

1756
01:32:18,453 --> 01:32:21,013
Speaker 20: the World Gin Awards. So about a year or so

1757
01:32:21,053 --> 01:32:24,053
Speaker 20: ago they opened up this magnificent tasting room. It's at

1758
01:32:24,133 --> 01:32:27,213
Speaker 20: Vines village got a garden setting, so once again very

1759
01:32:27,213 --> 01:32:30,093
Speaker 20: family friendly. But it's such a cool place to go

1760
01:32:30,173 --> 01:32:32,333
Speaker 20: and just get a signature g and t or a

1761
01:32:32,413 --> 01:32:35,933
Speaker 20: a grony. They have all sorts of seasonal cocktails in

1762
01:32:35,973 --> 01:32:39,493
Speaker 20: the tasting room and also some really nice eats, so

1763
01:32:39,613 --> 01:32:46,053
Speaker 20: they've collaborated with a team behind Boom Spice, Sauce and barbecue.

1764
01:32:46,133 --> 01:32:48,973
Speaker 20: So on a hot day you can just chill out

1765
01:32:49,013 --> 01:32:52,053
Speaker 20: with some small plates, few gins, maybe a few cocktails,

1766
01:32:52,093 --> 01:32:54,173
Speaker 20: and if it's really hot, I would recommend you go

1767
01:32:54,213 --> 01:32:58,413
Speaker 20: with a greape fruit and gin sorbet. That is very restorative.

1768
01:32:58,453 --> 01:33:00,733
Speaker 20: I can assure you and Mike.

1769
01:33:00,853 --> 01:33:03,533
Speaker 3: Look, if you've got some room left in your stoach

1770
01:33:03,653 --> 01:33:05,653
Speaker 3: and you've got a bit of energy, what would you

1771
01:33:05,693 --> 01:33:06,653
Speaker 3: suggest for dinner?

1772
01:33:07,733 --> 01:33:10,373
Speaker 20: I would go with Frank's Oyster Bar and Ethory. So

1773
01:33:10,493 --> 01:33:13,733
Speaker 20: this is in Scott Street, downtown Blenham, under the command

1774
01:33:13,773 --> 01:33:16,413
Speaker 20: of Sam Webb, who is a local hero. It's got

1775
01:33:16,453 --> 01:33:19,493
Speaker 20: a real old school New York bar vibe Frank's Oyster

1776
01:33:19,493 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 20: Bar and Ethery, lots of tiles, lots of industrial light fixtures.

1777
01:33:23,453 --> 01:33:25,933
Speaker 20: But despite its name that they do so much more

1778
01:33:25,973 --> 01:33:30,733
Speaker 20: than just Marlborough's magnificent mollusks, so their sheer plates run

1779
01:33:30,773 --> 01:33:34,253
Speaker 20: the gamut from marino, lamb shoulder and grilled zucchini to

1780
01:33:35,013 --> 01:33:37,693
Speaker 20: chicken venus and sliders. And if you can choose, and

1781
01:33:37,773 --> 01:33:40,773
Speaker 20: I did for Struggle, I would say just plump for

1782
01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:45,253
Speaker 20: Frank EAT's option and he'll just keep you happy all night.

1783
01:33:45,693 --> 01:33:48,053
Speaker 3: Oh look, Mike, thank you for you know, putting the

1784
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:50,013
Speaker 3: body on the line and eating and drinking your way

1785
01:33:50,013 --> 01:33:52,733
Speaker 3: around Blener for us all.

1786
01:33:54,453 --> 01:33:56,933
Speaker 20: What a great Francesca, what a great job.

1787
01:33:57,053 --> 01:33:59,533
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Mike, and for more tips on sipping

1788
01:33:59,573 --> 01:34:02,373
Speaker 3: and nothing your way through Blenham. Mike's article is on

1789
01:34:02,413 --> 01:34:04,693
Speaker 3: the website news Dog zb dot coded in Z food

1790
01:34:04,693 --> 01:34:09,373
Speaker 3: Flash Lifestyle, would Slasher travel. It is twenty six past.

1791
01:34:09,213 --> 01:34:14,853
Speaker 2: Eleven, getting your weekends started.

1792
01:34:15,053 --> 01:34:19,893
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks AB the.

1793
01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:24,173
Speaker 16: Dover Shadow Western, then Jack downs Yestreet.

1794
01:34:24,693 --> 01:34:27,133
Speaker 6: There's a party downtown here Fire Street.

1795
01:34:27,733 --> 01:34:29,293
Speaker 16: Everybody at budget.

1796
01:34:30,373 --> 01:34:33,573
Speaker 3: Jason Pine is coming up at midday with weekend sport

1797
01:34:33,653 --> 01:34:37,093
Speaker 3: and he joins me now from the Sale GP headquarters.

1798
01:34:37,093 --> 01:34:39,173
Speaker 4: How are you doing, Poney, very very well.

1799
01:34:39,773 --> 01:34:42,253
Speaker 21: One of the perks of the job days like this,

1800
01:34:42,773 --> 01:34:45,893
Speaker 21: sitting in the media center at Sale GP looking out

1801
01:34:45,973 --> 01:34:50,413
Speaker 21: on Waititamata Harbor. The finish line for sale GP is

1802
01:34:50,493 --> 01:34:53,933
Speaker 21: just off to my left slightly. It is an amazing

1803
01:34:53,973 --> 01:34:56,493
Speaker 21: scene down here. The vibe around the place, with racing

1804
01:34:56,613 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 21: still over four hours away from beginning, is palpable.

1805
01:35:01,533 --> 01:35:03,253
Speaker 4: They call it formula one on the water.

1806
01:35:03,533 --> 01:35:06,013
Speaker 21: Just can't wait to see what happens this afternoon and

1807
01:35:06,053 --> 01:35:06,853
Speaker 21: again tomorrow.

1808
01:35:06,933 --> 01:35:07,973
Speaker 3: And what are you expecting?

1809
01:35:08,013 --> 01:35:10,173
Speaker 4: Wind wise, Well, it's an easterly.

1810
01:35:10,653 --> 01:35:14,373
Speaker 21: I can tell you that I've I've become an amateur

1811
01:35:14,413 --> 01:35:18,013
Speaker 21: meteorologist in the last little while. The wind is good

1812
01:35:18,013 --> 01:35:22,013
Speaker 21: for sailing. It's all signs point to it being an

1813
01:35:22,053 --> 01:35:25,053
Speaker 21: exciting afternoon. I think the win's supposed to get up

1814
01:35:25,093 --> 01:35:27,573
Speaker 21: a little bit more tomorrow, but I'm reasonably positive it

1815
01:35:27,613 --> 01:35:30,533
Speaker 21: won't get to a point where they have to look

1816
01:35:30,573 --> 01:35:33,053
Speaker 21: at calling anything off. I think we're in for two,

1817
01:35:33,493 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 21: you know, big days of racing. What it will do

1818
01:35:36,093 --> 01:35:39,053
Speaker 21: is make these boats go very, very fast. They're on

1819
01:35:39,333 --> 01:35:43,533
Speaker 21: new foils, the t foils they're called, made out of titanium.

1820
01:35:43,533 --> 01:35:45,973
Speaker 21: They've been testing them over the last little while, and

1821
01:35:46,013 --> 01:35:49,413
Speaker 21: in practice they're getting up towards one hundred kilometers per hour.

1822
01:35:49,533 --> 01:35:53,133
Speaker 21: No boat's ever gone that fast in competition in sol GP.

1823
01:35:53,373 --> 01:35:55,533
Speaker 21: But I get the feeling that this afternoon, if the

1824
01:35:55,573 --> 01:35:59,773
Speaker 21: wind is right and the situation, you know, gets itself,

1825
01:36:00,413 --> 01:36:02,613
Speaker 21: you know, all correct, we're going to see boats going

1826
01:36:03,133 --> 01:36:05,613
Speaker 21: at more than one hundred kilometers an hour on white

1827
01:36:05,613 --> 01:36:06,733
Speaker 21: to out of harbor this afternoon.

1828
01:36:06,773 --> 01:36:08,013
Speaker 4: Quite spectacular, amazing.

1829
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:10,213
Speaker 3: So the sailing kicks off around four pm, I believe,

1830
01:36:10,253 --> 01:36:13,373
Speaker 3: but the gate's open to the grand stand around one

1831
01:36:13,493 --> 01:36:15,893
Speaker 3: or one thirty. So what do people do in the meantime?

1832
01:36:15,933 --> 01:36:18,013
Speaker 3: Is there entertainment there or is there do you just

1833
01:36:18,013 --> 01:36:18,693
Speaker 3: all kind of.

1834
01:36:19,213 --> 01:36:21,653
Speaker 21: Where you can do some You can do anticipation, you

1835
01:36:21,653 --> 01:36:24,693
Speaker 21: can do some celebrity spotting. I know there are people

1836
01:36:24,773 --> 01:36:28,253
Speaker 21: asking where Francesca is so that they can tick you

1837
01:36:28,333 --> 01:36:30,493
Speaker 21: off their bingo card of celebrity spots.

1838
01:36:30,613 --> 01:36:30,893
Speaker 2: You know what.

1839
01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:33,093
Speaker 3: I was actually really keen to go, but I left

1840
01:36:33,133 --> 01:36:34,973
Speaker 3: it very last minute to get my tickets. So this

1841
01:36:35,013 --> 01:36:36,413
Speaker 3: week when I looked at tickets, it was going to

1842
01:36:36,453 --> 01:36:38,413
Speaker 3: cost me three hundred and seventy dollars for two tickets.

1843
01:36:38,453 --> 01:36:39,773
Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, Pineyer, I don't know

1844
01:36:39,773 --> 01:36:41,813
Speaker 3: how much you earn, but I just couldn't quite stretch

1845
01:36:41,853 --> 01:36:43,733
Speaker 3: to that. So I'm going to be. I'm going to

1846
01:36:43,733 --> 01:36:46,733
Speaker 3: be loving it probably well, probably from Itali, unless I

1847
01:36:46,733 --> 01:36:49,173
Speaker 3: can find some interesting place to watch it from. But

1848
01:36:49,213 --> 01:36:51,933
Speaker 3: it's not like the America's cupposite. This is an event

1849
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:54,893
Speaker 3: which happens in a very particular place, hence the grandstand.

1850
01:36:54,933 --> 01:36:57,653
Speaker 3: Hence that's really where you get to see it in.

1851
01:36:57,573 --> 01:37:00,093
Speaker 21: All at glory and the fact that the boats go

1852
01:37:00,293 --> 01:37:02,733
Speaker 21: so close to the shore, so close that you can

1853
01:37:02,773 --> 01:37:05,733
Speaker 21: see the expressions on the sailor's faces. If you really

1854
01:37:05,733 --> 01:37:07,813
Speaker 21: strain your ear and the wind's coming in the right direction,

1855
01:37:07,853 --> 01:37:09,613
Speaker 21: which it will be, you'll be able to hear them

1856
01:37:09,653 --> 01:37:12,533
Speaker 21: shouting at one another on these boats. It's it really

1857
01:37:12,613 --> 01:37:15,493
Speaker 21: is the spectacle of the thing, which is the attraction

1858
01:37:15,573 --> 01:37:19,013
Speaker 21: of it. An eight thousand seat temporary grandstand has been built,

1859
01:37:19,253 --> 01:37:21,213
Speaker 21: Every ticket has been sold. It is going to be

1860
01:37:21,933 --> 01:37:24,173
Speaker 21: absolutely incredible this up in the New Years. That's three.

1861
01:37:24,373 --> 01:37:26,773
Speaker 3: You sorted it beautifully because you're a ver at three,

1862
01:37:27,733 --> 01:37:30,133
Speaker 3: but just happened to be there or time for four?

1863
01:37:30,733 --> 01:37:32,533
Speaker 21: What it was saying, I had a chat to Sir Russell,

1864
01:37:32,573 --> 01:37:34,373
Speaker 21: I had a chat to Sir Rustle, and Sir looks Russell.

1865
01:37:34,413 --> 01:37:36,933
Speaker 21: My show goes from twelve to three, so if racing

1866
01:37:36,973 --> 01:37:39,933
Speaker 21: could start at four, that would be absolutely perfect.

1867
01:37:40,013 --> 01:37:43,373
Speaker 3: No, because you are the voice of football in this

1868
01:37:43,453 --> 01:37:45,773
Speaker 3: country and all grenef seat is playing. I presume you

1869
01:37:45,853 --> 01:37:47,373
Speaker 3: have to go. You have to keep working.

1870
01:37:47,613 --> 01:37:50,653
Speaker 4: There are some divided there are some divided responsibilities. I'll

1871
01:37:50,693 --> 01:37:52,093
Speaker 4: give you that. I'll give you that.

1872
01:37:52,213 --> 01:37:54,493
Speaker 3: Okay, So glad to see lost some of its momentum.

1873
01:37:54,853 --> 01:37:56,613
Speaker 21: Well, they've only won one in the last five, so

1874
01:37:56,653 --> 01:37:58,413
Speaker 21: I guess you'd say yes, given the fact they won

1875
01:37:58,453 --> 01:37:59,613
Speaker 21: their first six in a row.

1876
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:01,013
Speaker 4: I don't think it's catastrophic.

1877
01:38:01,053 --> 01:38:03,613
Speaker 21: If they win against Melbourne City later on today, they'll

1878
01:38:03,613 --> 01:38:05,573
Speaker 21: go back to the top of the table, so you know,

1879
01:38:05,653 --> 01:38:08,813
Speaker 21: it's not I don't think the backside has fallen out

1880
01:38:08,813 --> 01:38:10,853
Speaker 21: of the football club. But you know they've you know,

1881
01:38:10,973 --> 01:38:13,773
Speaker 21: peaks and troughs. Any sports team goes through peaks and

1882
01:38:13,773 --> 01:38:17,693
Speaker 21: troughs and it is a long season. But no, I

1883
01:38:17,733 --> 01:38:20,653
Speaker 21: don't think there's any need to panic for Auckland FC fans.

1884
01:38:20,973 --> 01:38:23,693
Speaker 21: Another big crowd I'm sure in coming at go Media

1885
01:38:23,733 --> 01:38:26,253
Speaker 21: Stadium this afternoon when they take on Melbourne City, who

1886
01:38:26,253 --> 01:38:28,733
Speaker 21: are currently top. So effectively it's the top of the

1887
01:38:28,733 --> 01:38:31,453
Speaker 21: table clash. Really, I think they'll be Okay, they'd want

1888
01:38:31,453 --> 01:38:32,773
Speaker 21: to get a goal. Haven't got one of those in

1889
01:38:32,773 --> 01:38:34,973
Speaker 21: the last couple of games. But yeah, I think they'll

1890
01:38:35,013 --> 01:38:35,493
Speaker 21: be all right.

1891
01:38:35,653 --> 01:38:39,093
Speaker 3: Jason Pine, the hardest working man in sports journalism. Thank

1892
01:38:39,133 --> 01:38:41,653
Speaker 3: you so much for your time. Appreciate it. Hey, enjoy

1893
01:38:41,653 --> 01:38:44,093
Speaker 3: your afternoon. Ponty be with you at midday. It'd be

1894
01:38:44,093 --> 01:38:45,573
Speaker 3: really interesting to hear him just talk about how this

1895
01:38:45,613 --> 01:38:48,293
Speaker 3: whole event is unfolding in Auckland. And of course he'll

1896
01:38:48,333 --> 01:38:51,773
Speaker 3: be commentating the Auckland FC versus Melbourne City game that's

1897
01:38:51,853 --> 01:38:56,613
Speaker 3: kickoff is at five pm this afternoon. Yeah, good busy man,

1898
01:38:56,813 --> 01:38:58,413
Speaker 3: it is twenty five to twelve.

1899
01:38:58,773 --> 01:39:00,853
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend then with

1900
01:39:01,173 --> 01:39:04,453
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and bepewured dot co

1901
01:39:04,613 --> 01:39:07,493
Speaker 1: dot nz for high quality of its news talks.

1902
01:39:09,453 --> 01:39:12,813
Speaker 3: Right, if you have finished reading all the books that

1903
01:39:12,853 --> 01:39:14,893
Speaker 3: you were giving for Christmas and you're looking for a

1904
01:39:14,933 --> 01:39:18,093
Speaker 3: new read, Catherine Rains is with us now with some

1905
01:39:18,173 --> 01:39:22,413
Speaker 3: great suggestions. Good morning, Catherine morning, How are you very good?

1906
01:39:22,653 --> 01:39:26,053
Speaker 3: Very good? Happy a year you too, So what have

1907
01:39:26,093 --> 01:39:26,933
Speaker 3: you got for us today?

1908
01:39:28,013 --> 01:39:28,093
Speaker 9: So?

1909
01:39:28,133 --> 01:39:31,053
Speaker 22: I've got One Dark Night by Hannah Rochelle and this

1910
01:39:31,213 --> 01:39:35,053
Speaker 22: is set and this very small English visions called Sorcombe

1911
01:39:35,093 --> 01:39:37,453
Speaker 22: and it's nestled in the woods and there's a private

1912
01:39:37,573 --> 01:39:40,253
Speaker 22: school there and it kind of has the sort of

1913
01:39:40,293 --> 01:39:44,213
Speaker 22: adventurous spirits around the woods and some stories that float

1914
01:39:44,253 --> 01:39:47,293
Speaker 22: around and because of this, on the night of Halloween,

1915
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Speaker 22: many of the young people in towns sneak away from

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Speaker 22: their homes to attend the party in the woods, and

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Speaker 22: costumes are worn and jokes are played and everybody's having

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Speaker 22: a good time. But then that party ends in tragedy

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Speaker 22: when the body of a teenager, Sarah is found in

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Speaker 22: the woods after the party, and she attended the local

1921
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Speaker 22: exclusive school and the investigating detective then Chase has a

1922
01:40:09,253 --> 01:40:12,013
Speaker 22: daughter in the same year level Ali and his ex

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Speaker 22: wife Rachel is the student counselor, and there's plenty of

1924
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Speaker 22: suspects from within the school and the local community, and

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Speaker 22: there's this whole web of lies and secrets and it's

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Speaker 22: least a desperate to find the killer. And then because

1927
01:40:23,773 --> 01:40:26,653
Speaker 22: of his connections as the detective, because of his connections

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Speaker 22: with the school, he gets taken off the case. And

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01:40:29,253 --> 01:40:33,253
Speaker 22: there's lots of twists and turns and lots of very

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Speaker 22: unlikable characters, and that Aerie Woods and the Halloween are

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Speaker 22: a really good mix. Along with that no shortage of

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Speaker 22: very questionable characters makes a very intriguing and good thriller.

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Speaker 3: Read Oh, it does sound like a good thrill. I

1934
01:40:47,813 --> 01:40:49,253
Speaker 3: can kind of see that playing out in the TV

1935
01:40:49,253 --> 01:40:52,093
Speaker 3: show already, Catherine, we look, I can too.

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Speaker 22: That kind of whole atmosphere and Halloween sort of element

1937
01:40:55,373 --> 01:40:57,053
Speaker 22: to it leads itself to that.

1938
01:40:57,493 --> 01:40:59,693
Speaker 3: Tell Me about the Wedding Party by Rebecca Heath.

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Speaker 22: This is another quite suspenseful and atmospheric thriller. And this

1940
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:07,773
Speaker 22: is set in the backdrop of an Australian seaside town

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01:41:07,933 --> 01:41:10,533
Speaker 22: and it blends the past and the present through these

1942
01:41:10,893 --> 01:41:14,453
Speaker 22: different perspectives of the characters. And Adele and Jason are

1943
01:41:14,493 --> 01:41:18,173
Speaker 22: these childhood friends and are returned to their seaside town

1944
01:41:18,613 --> 01:41:21,573
Speaker 22: to tie the knot. But it's not really a celebration

1945
01:41:21,693 --> 01:41:25,573
Speaker 22: of which you kind of expect because Adele's first love, Olie,

1946
01:41:25,613 --> 01:41:28,933
Speaker 22: tragically died there about twelve years ago and his memory

1947
01:41:29,253 --> 01:41:31,613
Speaker 22: as part of many of the guests memories as well,

1948
01:41:31,653 --> 01:41:35,013
Speaker 22: and among them is his mum, who's grieving and unstable,

1949
01:41:35,053 --> 01:41:39,173
Speaker 22: and she adds this layer of tension am ambiguity and

1950
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:41,653
Speaker 22: his sisters there, and she takes us back in time,

1951
01:41:41,733 --> 01:41:44,373
Speaker 22: and she kind of reveals the parts of the tragic

1952
01:41:44,453 --> 01:41:48,893
Speaker 22: past that the ramification through the present, and it moves

1953
01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:52,853
Speaker 22: between the wedding and his death, and those alternative points

1954
01:41:52,853 --> 01:41:55,373
Speaker 22: of views between Adele who's getting married and Melanie and

1955
01:41:55,413 --> 01:41:58,213
Speaker 22: the present and so for Sophie in the past, and

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01:41:58,613 --> 01:42:01,733
Speaker 22: somebody trying to savage the wedding and sabotage the wedding,

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01:42:01,813 --> 01:42:05,053
Speaker 22: and lots of kind of immediate family members that are

1958
01:42:05,053 --> 01:42:07,493
Speaker 22: doing some very weird things. And everybody at this wedding

1959
01:42:07,533 --> 01:42:09,693
Speaker 22: has their own secrets and they don't and why they

1960
01:42:09,693 --> 01:42:12,333
Speaker 22: don't want Jason and Adele to Mary. And she keeps

1961
01:42:12,373 --> 01:42:15,373
Speaker 22: finding threatening messages and he keeps getting threatening texts, and

1962
01:42:16,093 --> 01:42:18,213
Speaker 22: all sorts of things start to go wrong, and that's

1963
01:42:18,253 --> 01:42:20,933
Speaker 22: really just the beginning of where the wedding party starts.

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Speaker 22: And yeah, she's atmospheric thriller.

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Speaker 3: She loves an ensemble cast, really, doesn't she, Rebecca Heath,

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01:42:27,013 --> 01:42:29,053
Speaker 3: it must be very prolific. Wasn't that long ago we

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01:42:29,053 --> 01:42:31,013
Speaker 3: were talking about the summer party and the dinner party.

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01:42:31,933 --> 01:42:34,373
Speaker 22: No, No, it doesn't feel like that long ago. I

1969
01:42:34,413 --> 01:42:36,253
Speaker 22: think she's sort of writing a book every seven or

1970
01:42:36,293 --> 01:42:40,373
Speaker 22: eight months, which is pretty quick. But yeah, I like

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01:42:40,493 --> 01:42:43,813
Speaker 22: the way that her kind of suspenseful and the atmospheric

1972
01:42:43,893 --> 01:42:46,173
Speaker 22: tension that she manages to get in her novels is

1973
01:42:46,613 --> 01:42:47,293
Speaker 22: very intriguing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks so much, Catherine. Those two books that Catherine

1975
01:42:51,053 --> 01:42:54,413
Speaker 3: mentioned One Dark Night by Hannah Rachelle and also The

1976
01:42:54,413 --> 01:42:57,413
Speaker 3: Wedding Party by Rebecca Heath. You may be a fan

1977
01:42:57,453 --> 01:42:59,333
Speaker 3: of some of her previous books, the ones I just mentioned,

1978
01:42:59,333 --> 01:43:03,213
Speaker 3: they're The Summer Party and The Dinner Party. Mar's text

1979
01:43:03,293 --> 01:43:07,373
Speaker 3: to say, any dolphins, No, man, we're not going there.

1980
01:43:07,613 --> 01:43:09,333
Speaker 3: We're just going to bridge. We're just going to forget

1981
01:43:09,333 --> 01:43:12,213
Speaker 3: about dolphin Gate when it comes to sale GP, and

1982
01:43:12,253 --> 01:43:14,093
Speaker 3: we're going to cross our fingers and hope that there

1983
01:43:14,413 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 3: nothing holds up the sailing on the harbor of the

1984
01:43:19,333 --> 01:43:23,053
Speaker 3: so afternoon. We just want some good wind and some

1985
01:43:23,173 --> 01:43:28,733
Speaker 3: exciting racing, don't we And hopefully no dolphins. Yes, now

1986
01:43:28,813 --> 01:43:33,373
Speaker 3: that has don't worry, Martzen has crossed our minds. So

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Speaker 3: thank you for your text.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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01:43:35,453 --> 01:43:38,613
Speaker 3: On Friday, David Gray released his new album. It's called

1990
01:43:38,693 --> 01:43:42,093
Speaker 3: Dear Life. It's his first album since twenty twenty one.

1991
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Speaker 3: Is Stelle has been listening and she is going to

1992
01:43:45,253 --> 01:43:47,733
Speaker 3: give us her thoughts on the album in just a moment.

1993
01:43:48,093 --> 01:43:50,973
Speaker 3: It has been very well reviewed. Actually, I've noticed a

1994
01:43:51,013 --> 01:43:55,893
Speaker 3: lot of people I have been enjoying this album. So

1995
01:43:55,893 --> 01:43:59,053
Speaker 3: we'll get her thoughts shortly. You're with Saturday Mornings. It

1996
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Speaker 3: is eighteen to twelve.

1997
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Speaker 2: Giving you the inside school on all you need to know.

1998
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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with French Escar Rudkin Infrojective and be pure

1999
01:44:09,453 --> 01:44:12,573
Speaker 1: quality supplements for esential energy news talk said.

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Speaker 23: Listen quand.

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01:44:18,893 --> 01:44:19,973
Speaker 9: This bad and.

2002
01:44:21,933 --> 01:44:24,773
Speaker 23: Babe listen.

2003
01:44:26,373 --> 01:44:27,453
Speaker 24: He cud.

2004
01:44:29,773 --> 01:44:30,853
Speaker 13: This bad and.

2005
01:44:34,373 --> 01:44:47,093
Speaker 23: Hello, well nowhere, Well it's so bad baby, Oh well nowhere.

2006
01:44:48,293 --> 01:44:53,013
Speaker 3: As David Gray. The song is called Fighting Talk. It's

2007
01:44:53,013 --> 01:44:55,653
Speaker 3: from his new album that was out on Friday called

2008
01:44:55,693 --> 01:44:58,413
Speaker 3: Dear Life. And I've joined up by the Fabulous. It's

2009
01:44:58,413 --> 01:45:01,693
Speaker 3: still Clemifered to have a chat about the album. How

2010
01:45:01,773 --> 01:45:03,093
Speaker 3: are you still? Happy New Year?

2011
01:45:03,893 --> 01:45:06,693
Speaker 11: Happy New Year to your Francesca. Here we are back

2012
01:45:06,733 --> 01:45:09,253
Speaker 11: in the mix and listening to some great shows, yes.

2013
01:45:09,333 --> 01:45:12,333
Speaker 3: And some good music out. I'm hearing you. Look, I

2014
01:45:12,373 --> 01:45:14,533
Speaker 3: had a quick lock and this seems to be People

2015
01:45:14,533 --> 01:45:17,053
Speaker 3: are liking this album. It's his first since twenty twenty one.

2016
01:45:18,053 --> 01:45:20,133
Speaker 11: Yeah, it is, And I like to be honest, I

2017
01:45:20,133 --> 01:45:23,893
Speaker 11: haven't always stayed with David Gray of those people who yeah, yeah, yeah,

2018
01:45:23,933 --> 01:45:26,333
Speaker 11: like you know that big album in the early two thousands,

2019
01:45:26,613 --> 01:45:28,493
Speaker 11: and it had babbled on on it. You know, everyone

2020
01:45:28,573 --> 01:45:31,013
Speaker 11: was sort of taken away with what he was doing then,

2021
01:45:31,293 --> 01:45:33,493
Speaker 11: and there's kind of been all the in between stuff,

2022
01:45:33,493 --> 01:45:35,333
Speaker 11: and I'm sure there's been some great releases, but this

2023
01:45:35,413 --> 01:45:38,413
Speaker 11: is the album that I think probably it's quite in

2024
01:45:38,733 --> 01:45:40,813
Speaker 11: respect to what he's doing with his voice and his

2025
01:45:40,933 --> 01:45:44,573
Speaker 11: music is quite similar to the the album that I

2026
01:45:44,573 --> 01:45:46,973
Speaker 11: think got everybody kind of on board with him suddenly enough.

2027
01:45:47,013 --> 01:45:49,653
Speaker 11: Actually the album is I'm trying to think what it's

2028
01:45:49,653 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 11: called White Letter. There we go, Yes, and the net

2029
01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:54,133
Speaker 11: didn't have the chout for like three years later, and

2030
01:45:54,173 --> 01:45:56,653
Speaker 11: I think it was amazing, Like that's amazing.

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01:45:56,533 --> 01:45:58,653
Speaker 3: Released in nineteen ninety eight, but I think, like you,

2032
01:45:58,813 --> 01:46:00,213
Speaker 3: we think of it as a sort of an early

2033
01:46:00,253 --> 01:46:03,733
Speaker 3: two thousands album and then it just stuck around forever.

2034
01:46:03,893 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 11: I rocket and Yeah, he re released it and I

2035
01:46:06,173 --> 01:46:08,853
Speaker 11: think had a different label that pushed it differently. That

2036
01:46:08,933 --> 01:46:12,533
Speaker 11: song there you had fighting talk, the backing vocals and harmonies,

2037
01:46:12,573 --> 01:46:16,893
Speaker 11: that's his daughter Florence. I think is yeah, really cool,

2038
01:46:16,933 --> 01:46:18,973
Speaker 11: Like he's really opening up his scope of what he's

2039
01:46:19,013 --> 01:46:21,493
Speaker 11: doing with his music. I think that his producer is

2040
01:46:21,533 --> 01:46:23,733
Speaker 11: really good at saying, hey, let's add some other layers,

2041
01:46:23,773 --> 01:46:26,653
Speaker 11: let's add some other people. There's another really great song

2042
01:46:26,653 --> 01:46:29,733
Speaker 11: on here that he teams up with TARLIEA Ray plus

2043
01:46:29,733 --> 01:46:32,533
Speaker 11: and minus that I think you'll play really soon. And

2044
01:46:32,693 --> 01:46:35,613
Speaker 11: her voice, like so she's an upcoming UK artist that

2045
01:46:35,653 --> 01:46:38,013
Speaker 11: he's sort of got in touch with, and she's added

2046
01:46:38,013 --> 01:46:41,253
Speaker 11: her vocals and it just makes it quite fresh, you

2047
01:46:41,293 --> 01:46:43,733
Speaker 11: know that, Like their voices blean together really well, and

2048
01:46:43,773 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 11: then she sort of does a little bit of the

2049
01:46:45,413 --> 01:46:47,093
Speaker 11: bridge and chorus herself.

2050
01:46:47,693 --> 01:46:48,373
Speaker 17: But there's just.

2051
01:46:48,253 --> 01:46:50,933
Speaker 11: Something about adding some of those younger voices and younger

2052
01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:53,973
Speaker 11: artists that just I guess pushes those artists who have

2053
01:46:54,013 --> 01:46:56,733
Speaker 11: been doing it for a while to try some stuff out.

2054
01:46:56,733 --> 01:46:59,693
Speaker 11: But again also just some new beautiful ways to showcase people,

2055
01:46:59,733 --> 01:47:00,493
Speaker 11: which I think is great.

2056
01:47:00,573 --> 01:47:02,693
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like you, to be honest with you.

2057
01:47:02,813 --> 01:47:04,773
Speaker 3: When I heard this was the first album since twenty

2058
01:47:04,813 --> 01:47:06,853
Speaker 3: twenty one, my first thought was, oh, did you release

2059
01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:08,493
Speaker 3: an album in twenty twenty one. I thought it was

2060
01:47:08,493 --> 01:47:11,893
Speaker 3: a little later for that, to be honest, No, it was.

2061
01:47:11,853 --> 01:47:13,973
Speaker 11: Weird too because he did release an album, but he

2062
01:47:14,013 --> 01:47:17,693
Speaker 11: was actually rehearsing for the White Letter twentieth anniversary tour,

2063
01:47:18,133 --> 01:47:20,893
Speaker 11: and then of course the lockdowns happened. So I think

2064
01:47:20,933 --> 01:47:23,253
Speaker 11: I got swallowed up, you know, like a few musicians

2065
01:47:23,293 --> 01:47:25,573
Speaker 11: will say that anything they were releasing around that kind

2066
01:47:25,573 --> 01:47:27,973
Speaker 11: of time, as people were coming out of lockdowns or

2067
01:47:28,013 --> 01:47:30,173
Speaker 11: going in it did sort of get a little bit

2068
01:47:30,733 --> 01:47:33,013
Speaker 11: lost and murky. And I think what's ended up happening

2069
01:47:33,093 --> 01:47:35,413
Speaker 11: is he's kind of gone back to his original routs

2070
01:47:35,653 --> 01:47:38,533
Speaker 11: and where it's come from from songwriting and sort of

2071
01:47:38,613 --> 01:47:41,053
Speaker 11: part of that one and move forward with what he's

2072
01:47:41,093 --> 01:47:42,053
Speaker 11: got going on now.

2073
01:47:43,373 --> 01:47:43,533
Speaker 6: You know.

2074
01:47:43,853 --> 01:47:44,093
Speaker 24: Yeah.

2075
01:47:44,813 --> 01:47:48,173
Speaker 3: So I read that he sort of when he was

2076
01:47:48,653 --> 01:47:52,853
Speaker 3: practicing for that twenty year anniversary tour, the White Ladder

2077
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:55,813
Speaker 3: album kind of was the inspiration for this album. So

2078
01:47:56,013 --> 01:47:59,613
Speaker 3: is it Is it musically the inspiration or was it lyrically?

2079
01:47:59,733 --> 01:48:01,653
Speaker 3: Because I hear that he sort of mentioned that this

2080
01:48:01,733 --> 01:48:05,533
Speaker 3: is an album of emotional crisis and resolution. Yeah, so,

2081
01:48:06,013 --> 01:48:08,773
Speaker 3: oh my, was it more sort of the was it

2082
01:48:08,813 --> 01:48:11,893
Speaker 3: more so the emotional lyrical tone of White Letter that

2083
01:48:11,973 --> 01:48:14,093
Speaker 3: inspired him all the music?

2084
01:48:14,853 --> 01:48:16,853
Speaker 11: I think it was the music. I think going back

2085
01:48:16,853 --> 01:48:19,053
Speaker 11: to that thing that he does where he's quite poetic

2086
01:48:19,133 --> 01:48:21,893
Speaker 11: in his writing of lyrics, but he's also really good

2087
01:48:21,933 --> 01:48:24,453
Speaker 11: at just sitting with a melody and finding those catchy

2088
01:48:24,493 --> 01:48:27,173
Speaker 11: hooks that go with it. So I think that's the bit,

2089
01:48:27,213 --> 01:48:29,133
Speaker 11: and that's why I say going back to kind of basics.

2090
01:48:29,173 --> 01:48:31,613
Speaker 11: Although White Letter was like the third or fourth album

2091
01:48:31,693 --> 01:48:34,533
Speaker 11: or something, it's the one that really resonated with people

2092
01:48:34,573 --> 01:48:37,653
Speaker 11: and sometimes you just have to show. I guess maybe

2093
01:48:37,693 --> 01:48:39,333
Speaker 11: he wrote more songs with just him and a guitar

2094
01:48:39,413 --> 01:48:40,733
Speaker 11: or him in a piano, and then he put the

2095
01:48:40,773 --> 01:48:43,453
Speaker 11: layers on after. So I think that's kind of where

2096
01:48:43,493 --> 01:48:46,813
Speaker 11: it's at. Actually, the plus and minor single that you'll

2097
01:48:46,813 --> 01:48:48,773
Speaker 11: play soon, I'm pretty sure that's also a song he

2098
01:48:48,933 --> 01:48:51,773
Speaker 11: said he's actually been working on for a couple of decades,

2099
01:48:52,253 --> 01:48:56,093
Speaker 11: but it never hits like he just couldn't find what

2100
01:48:56,133 --> 01:48:58,773
Speaker 11: the end it was or what the specialness of it was,

2101
01:48:58,813 --> 01:49:01,533
Speaker 11: and so I think bringing in that other vocalist, changing

2102
01:49:01,573 --> 01:49:03,293
Speaker 11: up his producer to give it a little bit of

2103
01:49:03,333 --> 01:49:06,133
Speaker 11: a new sound, finally he's like, okay, perhaps trying to

2104
01:49:06,173 --> 01:49:08,893
Speaker 11: write something too emotional that he hadn't actually experienced yet

2105
01:49:09,453 --> 01:49:10,173
Speaker 11: twenty years later.

2106
01:49:10,213 --> 01:49:11,853
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit like if you're a little

2107
01:49:11,893 --> 01:49:13,453
Speaker 3: bit like me and you know there's been a bit

2108
01:49:13,493 --> 01:49:15,333
Speaker 3: of a gap in your David Gray, but you remember

2109
01:49:15,373 --> 01:49:17,213
Speaker 3: that White Lady, you know, that album that paved the

2110
01:49:17,253 --> 01:49:19,893
Speaker 3: way for your Ed Sheeran's Adele's, James Blunt and everything

2111
01:49:19,973 --> 01:49:23,253
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, this is potentially a really nice album

2112
01:49:23,293 --> 01:49:25,573
Speaker 3: to kind of come back to David Gray on.

2113
01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:28,213
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it is, and it's really great. He's

2114
01:49:28,253 --> 01:49:31,613
Speaker 11: got some beautiful piano intros. There's some real acoustic guitar

2115
01:49:31,693 --> 01:49:34,373
Speaker 11: stuff which is quite a lot Bbylon and all those

2116
01:49:34,413 --> 01:49:36,053
Speaker 11: kind of songs and a lot of that sort of stuff.

2117
01:49:36,373 --> 01:49:38,773
Speaker 11: But then there's some really big production where there's a

2118
01:49:38,813 --> 01:49:44,573
Speaker 11: full brass section. It feels very musiciany, but like one

2119
01:49:44,573 --> 01:49:46,373
Speaker 11: that would be amazing to tour. So I think it

2120
01:49:46,413 --> 01:49:48,293
Speaker 11: will feel like if you haven't had much of the

2121
01:49:48,293 --> 01:49:51,573
Speaker 11: in between stuff, you haven't missed this, you know, you'll

2122
01:49:51,653 --> 01:49:54,013
Speaker 11: understand where he's at with this album. And I really

2123
01:49:54,053 --> 01:49:55,973
Speaker 11: like that. I think it's also one of those albums

2124
01:49:56,653 --> 01:49:58,053
Speaker 11: perhaps for like it too, and I think you will

2125
01:49:58,093 --> 01:49:59,373
Speaker 11: as well, for the fact that you kind of have

2126
01:49:59,413 --> 01:50:01,853
Speaker 11: to re listen to it a few times to get,

2127
01:50:02,533 --> 01:50:04,533
Speaker 11: you know, some of that poetic meaning and some of

2128
01:50:04,533 --> 01:50:07,893
Speaker 11: what he's actually talking about on the journeys in the songs,

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Speaker 11: and some of them are a little bit slow and

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Speaker 11: you know, quite melancholy. And then there's the ones that

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Speaker 11: feel like he's put an upbeat groove even if they

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Speaker 11: are commenting on something quite big that's happened in life.

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Speaker 11: And so I just think that that kind of stuff

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Speaker 11: is sort of what captures people and makes you enjoy it.

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Speaker 11: There's some really real edgy, cool minor chord changes that

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Speaker 11: he makes midway in a song, and that always gives

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Speaker 11: me a bit of goosebumps when I hear. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 11: it's so nice, and you just want to listen to

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Speaker 11: it over and over again. So there's lots of those

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Speaker 11: reasons to keep revisiting. And then at the very end

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Speaker 11: of the album, I can't think what it's called, the

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Speaker 11: First Stone. I think it's a real sleepy ambient number

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Speaker 11: to finish off the album, and it's one of those

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Speaker 11: ones if you just need to chill out, take a

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Speaker 11: step back and a breath, like that's the kind of yeah,

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Speaker 11: just a real beautifully produced song. So that's a really

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01:50:57,453 --> 01:50:59,333
Speaker 11: good listen, which it's kind of it just thing to

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01:50:59,373 --> 01:51:01,413
Speaker 11: sort of have a dreamy end to an album, but

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Speaker 11: you know, I think he can kind of get away

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Speaker 11: with it. There's something really magic and beautiful about it.

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Speaker 3: So even though we have been looking back and comparing

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Speaker 3: it to White Leather in that album's impact, on this

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Speaker 3: particular album, it still sounds current. It's is he does

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Speaker 3: it still sound sort of a little bit unique to

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Speaker 3: David Gray.

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Speaker 11: I think it does, and I think because his voice

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Speaker 11: will always give it that standout thing where you know

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Speaker 11: that it's his voice. I think that just having a

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Speaker 11: new like new producers working on it. I think also

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Speaker 11: adding there's a little bit of electronic pop production through

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01:51:35,733 --> 01:51:38,213
Speaker 11: some of the songs, some of the upbeat tempos that

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Speaker 11: is used, perhaps given it more of that modern edge.

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Speaker 11: But it still stands out for the fact that I

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Speaker 11: think we all want to hear a song that has

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Speaker 11: a little bit of feeling and meaning to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: we don't always just want the you know, flowery, the

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Speaker 11: flowery easy stuff. Sometimes it's nice to kind of knuckle

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Speaker 11: down and get stuck into a song. And I think

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Speaker 11: the way he's layered what he's good at doing and

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Speaker 11: then adding all these upbeat jams to some of it.

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Speaker 11: I think that's kind of made it, you know, sort

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01:52:02,733 --> 01:52:04,253
Speaker 11: of one of those classic albums. You can kind of

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Speaker 11: put it into any kind of decade and oh yeah

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Speaker 11: that kind of works here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Istelle, what's your rating for it? Out of ten?

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Speaker 11: I'm going to give it an eight out of ten.

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Speaker 11: I think it's a good listen, but do it a

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Speaker 11: couple of times so you can really start to hear

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Speaker 11: those lyrics and fall in love with us those crazy mincords.

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Speaker 3: Always good to start the year with an eight out

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Speaker 3: of ten, A.

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Speaker 11: Stelle, excellent, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for your time and for

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01:52:28,133 --> 01:52:30,973
Speaker 3: taking a listen. So the album is called Dear Life

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Speaker 3: from David Gray, and we're going to play another track

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Speaker 3: from the album for you after the break.

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Speaker 2: It is seven to twelve, A cracking way to start

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Speaker 2: your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack dam and

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Speaker 1: Be Pure Quality Sepplements for Essential Energy News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B Thank you so much for joining us this morning

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Speaker 3: on Saturday Mornings. Thank you to Kerry for producing the show.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be back with you tomorrow. This Sunday

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Speaker 3: Session is back for its first show of the year,

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Speaker 3: and David Baldacci is going to join me, the Master

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Speaker 3: of Suspense and the legal thriller. He is with me

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Speaker 3: to talk about banning books adult literacy and the importance

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Speaker 3: of it and why he gets death threats threats what

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Speaker 3: he writes. I'm sure that many of you will have

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Speaker 3: picked up one of his new books over the summer

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Speaker 3: and enjoyed it. And he is actually heading to New

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Speaker 3: Zealand at the end of January for a writer's session,

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Speaker 3: so really keen to talk to him tomorrow about his

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Speaker 3: extraordinary career of a fifty box and children's box so

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Speaker 3: just just amazing. So he's on the show tomorrow. Join

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Speaker 3: us from nine where you're going to finish the show

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Speaker 3: with a little bit more music from David Gray. And

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Speaker 3: don't forget, David Gray will be with Jack Tame next week,

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Speaker 3: so you'll be able to learn why he's been in

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Speaker 3: an emotional crisis and resolution where that's all come from.

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Speaker 3: So make sure you join Jack next Saturday. This song

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Speaker 3: is called plus and minus Enjoy I'll see them own morning.

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Speaker 3: The dim interest where itio is to be so different.

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Speaker 16: ever gin he wants sit back and watch him disappear

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Speaker 16: by now you know the way the time is stretching

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Speaker 16: out there like the circle turning around. Suddenly that circle

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Speaker 16: is a s explashing red and sinking down. The following

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Speaker 16: reports may contain scenes and summer find um saying look

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Speaker 16: at me, read what's written here?

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Speaker 3: This homely tea and scar before.

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Speaker 4: The fire, that gas little.

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Speaker 24: sched well, scanno, scandal.

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Speaker 3: An it's a beer for.

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Speaker 24: You know.

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Speaker 2: This whole routine is get o.

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Speaker 16: S getting all.

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Speaker 1: Yeto for more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen

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Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from nine am Saturday,

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