1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondence with us. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Hello, Inda, Heather, great to be back. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: You know I would have thought the House, the Speaker 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: of the House of Commons has good reason to be 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: pretty cross at the police. 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes he has so. For anyone who hasn't followed this, 7 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Lindsay Hoyle recently came back from a trip to the 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: British Virgin Islands and what we did not know was 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: that he picked up a piece of information He was 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: tipped off there that someone at a senior level in 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: the bvyes in the Caribbean believes Peter Mandelsson, Lord Mandleson, 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: recently arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office relating 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: to his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, that Mandelsson was planning 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: to flee the United Kingdom and go to the BVS 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: and basically stay there. Now, Mandlsson got arrested out of 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: nowhere at four pm on Monday. He then on Tuesday, 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: I'd put a statement out saying this wasn't what was agreed. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I thought I was getting arrested in two weeks time 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: by appointment. What's gone on here? You know, I was 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: never going to flee the country him fleeing the country 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: was not on anyone's radar until he said it himself. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: And now what's happened. Lindsay Hoyle stood up in the 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: House of Commons and said, just to clear up some 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: press speculation, I basically went and told the police. And 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of very embarrassing I think for the police 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: that they've now let Mandelson know before he said that 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: in the House of Commons that he was the source 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: of the intel. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Does it make any sense to you though, in if 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: he was going to flee to the Virgin Islands, because 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: surely there's an extradition treaty with the UK. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, the first letter is B for British, so he 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: will be just dragged back and it would look even worse. 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: But I think the one thing I take from all 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: of this the way Andrew was arrested Mandlsson getting nicked 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: at four pm on a Monday. The world has changed 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: for these men, regardless of innocence or declarations and protestations 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: of innocence and investigations following the full course, the world 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: has changed. There is no zero interest who you used 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: to be. The law will follow its course. 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Does feel a bit like that now are we seriously. 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean the timeline of three years for you guys 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: to prepare for war with the Russians. Are people taking 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: this seriously? 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: So this is an interview in the Times today with 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: Al Cairns. He is the Armed Forces Minister. And this 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: guy is not a politician. He's ex Special Forces. He 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: has been a soldier his entire life. He's from a 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: council estate in Scotland. He speaks very bluntly. People are 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: already saying this guy could be the next prime minister 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: if he plays his cards right. He has come out 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: today with a jaw dropping interview in the Times and 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: he says that it's coming. We have three years to 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: get ready for a major conflict. And then he name 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: drops Russia and he said that the battlefield has changed 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: beyond all recognition now because the drone technology is advancing 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: so so fast. He points out that eighty seven percent 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: of all casualties on the front line in Ukraine are 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: as a result of drones. They have a kill rate 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: that is twenty two times higher than artillery rounds. And 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: he said that where we are right now in the 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: UK said we're training up snipers to shoot people from 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: eight hundred meters away, He said, what you're looking at 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: in terms of drawn technology? He said, I could train 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: my son up in a fortnight to kill you from 66 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: forty five kilometers away with a fiber optic dron. Yeah. 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean that is sobering, isn't it. Yeah, big 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: day for you guys with Manchester buy election. How do 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: you reckon it's going to go? 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's a three way split. Look, it goes one 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: of two ways for Kure Starmer Labor hold the seat 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: and win, and he rejuvenates himself and gets out there 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: and starts making domestic policies that people believe in. Or 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: if the Greens or Reform UK win this seat. What 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: you will then see as a conversation inside Labor saying, 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: look Starmar's toast, we need someone else. 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll all have to keep an eye on 78 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: that one. Inda, Thanks very much, look after yourself into Brady, 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: our UK correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 81 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio