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Speaker 2: Ed be modding You welcome today new drink and drug

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Speaker 2: driving crackdown, insights into the cast of AI. It's new artists' income.

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Speaker 2: We've got the perception of corruption in this country apparently

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Speaker 2: going up the lads in the commentary box with the

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Speaker 2: sport after wrote Richard Arnold and seat price they.

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Speaker 3: Added a class as well, Hosking.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the week. Seven past six. We're standing

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Speaker 2: by our house at the moment for the insurance company

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Speaker 2: to come back to us on a request for some coverage.

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Speaker 2: They're sending it off upstairs, apparently because we made a

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Speaker 2: claim last year as a result of the Summer of

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Speaker 2: doom and half the region's rain came through the back door. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I was figuring, given in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: it's a very minor sort of claim, and that is

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Speaker 2: the amount of mucking around they're doing. Policies for people

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Speaker 2: with actual claims that involve big bucks and major repairs

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Speaker 2: must be a nightmare, which brings us to the survey

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Speaker 2: from the insurance companies that tell us some interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of US are against developing in risky areas.

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Speaker 2: Now this is where survey's fault badly. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: is risky? What's a risky area? And who decides what

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Speaker 2: the risk is? Four and ten rate the government's climate

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Speaker 2: that category. But once again, what do they actually mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I buy an EV do I think

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Speaker 2: If they don't stop building on floodplains, then we are

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Speaker 2: still going to get flooded. Yes, So then eight percent

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Speaker 2: eight think we should all pay for risk. In other words,

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Speaker 2: even though I am sensible and I'm safe, I still

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Speaker 2: of matters. But too many of these big decisions, if

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Speaker 2: you think about it, are made by councils. Where to build,

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Speaker 2: what the risk is, what the mitigations are. And here

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Speaker 2: is the simple truth. Most councils aren't up to much.

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Speaker 2: History shows us this. If you rely on a council,

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Speaker 2: council interactions are going. Two years on. Insurance is an

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Speaker 2: The uninsured will be growing in numbers. The pressure will

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Speaker 2: be on the government to cover the difference. We will

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Speaker 2: look increasingly like America. We are not prepared, sort of light,

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Speaker 2: not being ensured when the storm comes.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds right to.

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Speaker 2: The war where the Ukraine offensive is paying dividends. We've

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Speaker 2: got two bridges down now they may well be there

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Speaker 5: It's the Ukrainians that are on the offensive at the moment,

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Speaker 5: but there is still a big risk from Russian fire.

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Speaker 5: We've been told about glide bombs in particular striking in

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Speaker 2: Stateside, the Dems are arriving in Chicago for the Big

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Speaker 2: Party to annoint their nominee, but polling is tight.

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden was falling in the mid sixties among blacks.

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Speaker 6: Right now, Kamala Harris just hit eighty percent in the

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Speaker 3: Better, but it's not what it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Got some new numbers for you shortly on that. Actually, then,

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Speaker 2: I've written a bunch of things. Firstly, they are all

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Speaker 7: We needed to swift justice with people destroying our communities

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Speaker 8: Please, I'm burning down our library. So I agree with

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Speaker 9: We've just about got enough of space left to accommodate

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Speaker 3: They will be tight.

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Speaker 2: They're cracking down on online extremism.

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Speaker 9: We now have open source intelligence on the Internet on

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Speaker 2: They also have a lot of complaints about the health service.

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Speaker 2: And you wouldn't want to dip your toe in the

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Speaker 3: Look at the beach today.

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Speaker 11: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: a little of the world in marty seconds. Speaking of X,

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Speaker 2: You're into the NDI. Scotty Mac came second in Saint

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Speaker 2: A little bit of spending news out of Britain. They

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Speaker 2: us on a roll ended nicely Friday.

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Speaker 3: We certainly did.

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Speaker 12: Rock Lab great down Friday, up twelve percent. Hearts left

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Speaker 2: Now look at the manufacturing numbers. Find me something positive

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Speaker 12: and performs of manufacturing imports actually todd stopping the rot.

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Speaker 12: But there were some signs of improvement. So for July

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Speaker 12: of earnings. We've got seventeen companies supporting the sweet Mike,

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Speaker 2: Busy times go well, catch up, So appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Fresh polling out of the stage this morning, car it

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Speaker 2: that's encouraging. Anyway, more on This was Simme and Brown

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Speaker 2: Now we've got the pre season of the NFL underway

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Mahomes Patrick Kansas City has got some

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Speaker 2: Can I recommend a program to you called hard Knocks

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Speaker 2: Well, let's crunch through a couple of these numbers and

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Speaker 2: the new polling out this morning from the States. This

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Speaker 2: So perception is it reality or not?

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Speaker 4: There's quite a strong perception. There's possibly some reality, but

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Speaker 2: How do we rank? I mean, we've always been seen

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, if you were going to do party donations

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Speaker 4: They're both quite bad, but I would probably tackle the lobbying.

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Speaker 2: How do you wrap around lobbying because donations you can

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Speaker 2: say one fifty thousand, that's a number. It's real lobbying

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Speaker 4: So the Irish probably have the best example here where

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Speaker 4: patterns of contact that they've been And most countries also

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Speaker 4: have laws to stop the revolving doors, so you can't

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Speaker 4: just have been a minister of the crown, walk out

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Speaker 4: of the beehive on Friday and walk into a private

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Speaker 4: sector job on the Monday, and on Tuesday you're back

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Speaker 4: in their lobbying all your former colleagues on an issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit of that going on, Philip, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate the insight Philip yesbec Helen Clark Foundation report author

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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from seven Pascal. So you heard the

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Speaker 2: numbers on the Harris Trump situation. What she's not short

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Speaker 2: of at the moment is money. The campaign this week

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Speaker 2: has booked three hundred and seven million dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: television and online ads in battleground states, a couple of

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Speaker 2: hundred million on Hulu, Roku, YouTube, Paramount, Spotify, and Pandora.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and seventy million dollars just for the next

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks worth of advertising. Seventeen two.

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Speaker 2: Here's a fun fact for you. Guess how many people

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Speaker 2: arrived illegally in Britain yesterday, just yesterday, just Sunday their time.

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Speaker 2: How many people arrived via boat in Britain illegally. And

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Speaker 2: this is why it's going to haunt the key, because

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Speaker 2: he doesn't seem to have the answer. During the campaign,

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Speaker 2: he said that Rwanda thing are some of the planes

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Speaker 2: it's gone. In fact, they announced that on their first

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Speaker 2: people a ride by boat. Just add that up for

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Speaker 2: a month and see how you go fourteen away from.

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Speaker 16: Seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Right, sid Richard Arland Morning, good wadyway to cargo here

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Speaker 2: we come.

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Speaker 17: That's ran on the eve of the big invention there is.

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Speaker 17: I think it's fair to say some I'm growing momentum

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Speaker 17: for the new look Democratic tickets Harris Walls, even though

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Speaker 17: we're just approaching prime time here. Kamala Harris leeds Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump in the ABC Washington Post Pole by fifty to

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Speaker 17: forty five percent, so a little more than the CBS

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Speaker 17: survey you were just speaking about, but not on the

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Speaker 17: handling of the economy, and with the price spikes and

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Speaker 17: inflation still being seen here, that is going to be

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Speaker 17: an ongoing issue. On route to Chicago, the Harris team

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Speaker 17: has been making bus stops in battleground areas in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 17: They just got their new campaign bus, while Tim Walls,

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Speaker 17: the Minnesota governor and Harris running mate, also made a

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Speaker 17: stop in Nebraska, where he grew up.

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Speaker 1: Graduated from a town of four hundred named Butte.

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Speaker 13: I wouldn't trade growing up.

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Speaker 3: In that town for anything in the world. Population how

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Speaker 3: about half.

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Speaker 17: That's not everyone desperate to live in Butte. This is

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Speaker 17: a sort of American political mythology stemming from the time

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Speaker 17: of Abraham Lincoln, Bill the log cabin, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 17: and becoming a representative not of the rich and famous,

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Speaker 17: but for the little folks. Anyway, this post pole has

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Speaker 17: some other interesting elements if you look more deeply into

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Speaker 17: the survey. There are some larger swings as with independent voters,

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Speaker 17: and of course that's the key. Right months ago they

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Speaker 17: favored Donald Trump. Now they favor Kamala Harris by eleven points,

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Speaker 17: so that is a significant shift. There are a couple

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Speaker 17: more interesting questions from that poll. One is the candidate

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Speaker 17: physically fit to be president? Harris now has a thirty

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Speaker 17: point lead over the seventy eight year old Trump. Well,

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Speaker 17: last month, Trump had a thirty one point lead on

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Speaker 17: this over Joe Biden. Can we call a swing that

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Speaker 17: large on any issue in a recent poll. We can

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Speaker 17: all see why, obviously, but this is huge. On the

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Speaker 17: question of mental sharpness, Trump had a thirty point lead

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Speaker 17: a month back now it's Harris by nine points, so

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Speaker 17: it will see what this convention brings and where the

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Speaker 17: Harris performs. Joe Biden will deliver his big handover speech tomorrow,

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Speaker 17: then it becomes fully the Harrors campaign. Michelle Obama has

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Speaker 17: agreed to speak on Wednesday, your time. There had been

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Speaker 17: a little uncertainty over that, and former Republican congress Member

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Speaker 17: Adam Kinsingen also has just confirmed that he will speak

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Speaker 17: at the Democratic Convention, so that's interesting. As for Trump,

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Speaker 17: he is yet to find a solid attack line for Harris,

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Speaker 17: leading Trump supporter Senator Lindsey Graham to warn in relation

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Speaker 17: to the Trump approach today.

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Speaker 18: Donald Trump, the propagateur of the showmen, may not win

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Speaker 18: this selection. So I'm looking for President Trump to show

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Speaker 18: up in the last eighty days to define what he

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Speaker 18: will do for our country, to fix broken borders, to

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Speaker 18: lower inflation.

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Speaker 17: I think we know what he was trying to say.

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Speaker 17: The policies, discipline, not you, typical features of recent Trump rallies,

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Speaker 17: when at his latest he's been saying things like this.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden hates this was an overthrow of a president.

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Speaker 11: Have you heard her laugh?

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Speaker 16: That is the laugh of a crazy person.

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Speaker 2: That is the laugh of a crazy So laugh with.

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Speaker 19: A Luna, because as soon as she laughs, the elections

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Speaker 19: of her.

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Speaker 20: I say that I am much better looking than her.

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Speaker 20: I think I'm much better much I'm a better look inter.

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Speaker 17: Presidential beauty contest, political issues, or Trump being Trump.

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Speaker 2: And then we come to College Station. I'm surprised that

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Speaker 2: they didn't see this coming, but there you go.

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Speaker 17: I think we saw this coming. But you know, in

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Speaker 17: a bid to make most things under the Amazon flag

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Speaker 17: on this planet, they are testing their latest drone delivery

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Speaker 17: package service in the town near Houston, in Texas's College Station.

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Speaker 17: They call it prime Are. They promise to liver goods

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Speaker 17: within an hour of your order, and drones fly over

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Speaker 17: your house and drop the stuff in your front front yard. However,

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Speaker 17: a number of locals are not too pleased with how

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Speaker 17: this is going so far. Instead of seeing birds in

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Speaker 17: the late afternoons, there are endless numbers of these Amazon

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Speaker 17: drones dropping pizzas or who knows what on every corner

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Speaker 17: and sounding sound like an an invading air force.

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Speaker 2: So how's your day?

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Speaker 12: God?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, the sweet sounds of Marinara's saw drops all over town,

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Speaker 17: I guess is the story.

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Speaker 10: It's like a chainsaw.

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Speaker 21: They sound like a swarm of bees.

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Speaker 17: All many swarms would be, say some of the locals.

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Speaker 10: And the launch pad is just back behind our neighborhood,

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Speaker 10: so then you have all of them converging.

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Speaker 17: Amazon says it is working to relocate some of those

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Speaker 17: launch sites on a new quieter model drone as well.

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Speaker 17: But while many residents are annoyed, Amazon seems to think

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Speaker 17: it's all going pretty well, and many other companies, of course,

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Speaker 17: considering twenty four to seven air drops.

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Speaker 2: See Wednesday, might appreciate it. Richard Arnold states, by the way,

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Speaker 2: read Peter Harcher's piece out on the Sydney Morning Herald.

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Speaker 2: He's in America at the moment. He talked to a

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Speaker 2: bloke over the weekend called Jim Messina, who was one

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Speaker 2: of the brains behind Obama getting elected in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and eight and the mastermind of the twenty twelve reelection.

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Speaker 2: He says, she Harris has had the best month in

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Speaker 2: modern American political history. Nine to seven.

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Speaker 3: Mics Breakfast with the range rover of the mar News

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Speaker 2: The way, the last of the Banksy works that came

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Speaker 2: out Friday at London Zoo if you haven't had a

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Speaker 2: chance to look that up over the week and do it,

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Speaker 2: because a very clever piece of work. I ranked the

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Speaker 2: aquarium number one and the zoo one number two. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: the zoo didn't know what to do with it. They

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Speaker 2: put a plastic cover over it. But they've worked out

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Speaker 2: a replica in. They've apologized for it, but they need

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Speaker 2: of the middle of summer, and also to protect the work.

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Speaker 2: They don't know how they're going to protect the work,

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Speaker 2: what they're going to do with the work, but they

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Speaker 2: will do something with it so it will be well.

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Speaker 2: They could stick it on a wall in the gallery

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Speaker 2: apart from anything, but do look up those works if

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz with business fiber take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 3: The next level.

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Speaker 2: Gaming so the gaming industry booming. Sunday Times as in

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Speaker 2: Britain have got their top thirty gaming Rich lists. They've

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Speaker 2: never done this before, so it's a first. It's made

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Speaker 2: up of developers, pros and YouTubers. The average age of

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Speaker 2: those people is forty five. Quarter of them are under

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Speaker 2: thirty five. Top of the pile a couple of Russian brothers,

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Speaker 2: Igor and Dimitri, who owned the game in company play Ricks.

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Speaker 2: They make games like Township, FISHTM and Homescapes, and they're

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Speaker 2: worth about twenty seven billion dollars, So that gives you

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Speaker 2: an indication as to what game is worth twenty seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. Second is Herman the Riller, who's worth one

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Speaker 2: and a half bit over billion. He made his money

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Speaker 2: from the Metaverse, which is interesting really because the Metaverse

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Speaker 2: are not making any money at all. In fact, they're

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Speaker 2: making less than no money. They've lost billions. So Herman's

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Speaker 2: making money on something that's losing money. That's funny, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Third Ricardo z Acney, main developer of Candy Crush. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: heard of Candy Crush. He's worth about eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy five million. Dan and Sam Houser Where's Doogie? What

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Speaker 2: happened to? Do you want of the family anyway? Sam

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Speaker 2: and Dan are fourth co founders rock Star Games. They

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Speaker 2: make Grand Theft, Auto Leor Schiff is worth seven hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million. He's fifth he's behind solitaires. Are you

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Speaker 2: talking about some old stuff there? Highest placed gamers are

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Speaker 2: the Sidemen. Now they're a UK group that includes Ksi

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Speaker 2: who's KSI Well, he owns the Prime drink company, along

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Speaker 2: with Logan Pool who's Logan Pool. He's a guy hangs

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Speaker 2: out in the boxing ring every now and again. Sidemen

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Speaker 2: collectively are worth about one hundred million just from gaming.

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Speaker 2: They just game for funzies and they're worth one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Then there's Felix Shellberg who's also known of

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Speaker 2: course as Paudy Pie twenty fifth. He's worth ninety five million.

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Speaker 2: He's the first YouTuber to make the gig a profession

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Speaker 2: and turn it mainstream. A lot of money in gaming,

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Speaker 2: isn't there? Now? On the road swimming, Brown's latest plan

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Speaker 2: is to have a whole lot of cops pull you

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Speaker 2: over and test you for drinking and drugging, and he's

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Speaker 2: given them some money to do that. But everyone, quite

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Speaker 2: rightly is game. Well, what about the resources? I didn't

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Speaker 2: think we had that many police people. Anyway, He'll try

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Speaker 2: and explain his way through all of that. AI is

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Speaker 2: a risk for music. We've got some new data around

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Speaker 2: that for you, and of course we'll do being a Monday.

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Speaker 2: The commentary Box after Rate, Andrew Saville and Guy have

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven. Another crackdown drunk driving or drug

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Speaker 2: driving as well. They're tossing money at an extra couple

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Speaker 2: of hundred thousand breath tests. A ye're looking to hit

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Speaker 2: three point three million annually. Part of the target is

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Speaker 2: to get sixty five percent of those tests done at

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Speaker 2: high or extreme times of risk of transportment is to

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Speaker 2: simming Brown with us, good morning.

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: The big query seems to be resourced. Do we have

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Speaker 2: enough coppers to do it all?

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Speaker 22: If we do? This plan funds the road policing staff

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Speaker 22: within the police forces at one thousand and seventy police

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Speaker 22: so are dedicated to road policing and their job is

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Speaker 22: to enforce the law the two people who are drunk drivers,

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Speaker 22: drug drivers, breaking the road laws and making sure that

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Speaker 22: keeping New Zealand is safe. This funds them to do

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Speaker 22: their work, but it also has a very clear targets

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Speaker 22: around what we want them to be achieving.

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Speaker 2: Are they not doing the job now?

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Speaker 22: I think the point I'd make is over the last

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Speaker 22: ten years, only two of those years have we actually

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Speaker 22: seen greater than three million bridge tests actually achieved. Some

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Speaker 22: years we've seen below one point five million. We know

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Speaker 22: that alcohol or breath tests have an impact unto deterring

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Speaker 22: alcohol drunk drivers on our roads, and so it's really

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Speaker 22: important that we have clear targets and we see them

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Speaker 22: meeting those targets on a regular basis to keep New

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Speaker 22: Zealanders safe on the road. So this is about having

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Speaker 22: the clear targets and making sure we're achieving them on

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Speaker 22: a regular basis rather than the volatility we've seen in

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Speaker 22: recent years.

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Speaker 2: What's magic about three point three million, Well, I.

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Speaker 22: Think what we know is that when we get it

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Speaker 22: as high as possible, particularly above three million, we actually

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Speaker 22: do start seeing that deter and effect on our roads.

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Speaker 22: That's what the police in the NDTA have negotiated as

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Speaker 22: the number that they would like to see, and what

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Speaker 22: we're doing through this through this fund is basically saying

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Speaker 22: we want to have those targets on a regular basis,

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Speaker 22: also make sure that sixty five percent are being done

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Speaker 22: at those high risk times and location. So it's not

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Speaker 22: just having breath tests done at any target, you know, everywhere,

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Speaker 22: or just to get the target reached. We actually want

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Speaker 22: to be done at the most impactful times so that

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Speaker 22: we can deter drug drivers, drunk drivers, people taking those

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Speaker 22: risky behaviors on our road, so we can keep your

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Speaker 22: fylinders safe.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that ironic that you've got to tell them that though?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they doing it? Anyway?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think this is why it. This goes for

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Speaker 22: a negotiation with the VTA and police. It's about making

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Speaker 22: sure that the funds that are made available through the

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Speaker 22: National Land Transport Fund are achieving the best bang for

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Speaker 22: the back for New Zealanders. And it's a negotiation between

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Speaker 22: police and VTA. So we've identified one of those most

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Speaker 22: riskierhados in this focused plus time and reason.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see how it goes appreciated some mean

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Speaker 2: brown transport Minister nine and it's past seven. Pascal classy

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Speaker 2: weekend speaking of the road with the boy races raiming

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Speaker 2: a series of police cars and Hamilton Wykato large gathering

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Speaker 2: crowd being described as hostile and violent. The District Council

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Speaker 2: Mayor Jackie Churches with us on this Jackie Morning.

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Speaker 21: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: You're sick of it like everybody else. Absolutely, what's happening here.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to gather, it's another thing to be

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Speaker 2: aggressive towards the police. There's clearly no respect at all.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, i'd agree with that, I think. I think also

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Speaker 21: its usually a small number of people who are actually

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Speaker 21: lead leading those people. A lot of those people just

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Speaker 21: probably like to go out and cruise around them hang

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Speaker 21: out with their mates. But I think there's some content

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Speaker 21: around leadership of actually being anti government, anti authority and

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Speaker 21: just taking it to the next level of gates police,

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Speaker 21: which is absolutely shocking to see. It's concerning for the

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Speaker 21: local residents of wherever it happens to be at the time.

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Speaker 21: It's happening all over the Waikato and the Waikido district.

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Speaker 21: But it's also a current intense of you're attacking the police.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether I mean, I'm sure it's nationwide

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Speaker 2: to a degree, but what is it about the Witekata.

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Speaker 2: You seem to be the post child for the sort

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Speaker 2: of behavior. What's going on? Do you think?

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Speaker 21: Yes, when we're work ku a district council of the

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Speaker 21: White Nighty Waikata region, which the region has five hundred

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Speaker 21: thousand people, we've got about ninety thousand. But our district

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Speaker 21: council because we're between Auckland border and Hamilton, which is

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Speaker 21: the farthest growing two cities and New Zealand. And you know,

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Speaker 21: the through traffic our State Highway is at the twenty

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Speaker 21: thirty four rates, so we have a huge amount of

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Speaker 21: people who drive through. It's easily accessible from those major centers.

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Speaker 21: A lot of the people, you know cars these days,

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Speaker 21: they're coming from Topaul, they're coming from further away, they're

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Speaker 21: coming from long Day down. You know, social media these

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Speaker 21: days means that they can very quickly get together and

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Speaker 21: change their plans as to where they're going to meet

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Speaker 21: and have multiple people gathering together. I mean this started

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Speaker 21: in the base in Hamilton and then they've moved on

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Speaker 21: from there by the police, and then ends up north

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Speaker 21: of Hamilton just in a hole too, just in our

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Speaker 21: southern part of our district. But this is happening all

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Speaker 21: over the place.

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Speaker 2: As far as you're concerned of the police doing their.

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Speaker 21: Job, absolutely, but also you know, if you've got two

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Speaker 21: or three hundred people and cars and even if you've

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Speaker 21: got six or seven police units, which I understand we're there,

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Speaker 21: the ratio and the danger to those police and we

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Speaker 21: already know that would not be thankful that we actually

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Speaker 21: didn't have any injuries of the police, but four units damaged.

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Speaker 21: You know, that's the cost and the danger. It's just

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Speaker 21: not okay. Let alone the concerns of the residents around

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Speaker 21: that area when they're seeing that mass of people congregating

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Speaker 21: in their community.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Jackie, well done, Jackie Church. Not that

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Speaker 2: you can do anything about. I don't know. It's even

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Speaker 2: the council's job, really, is it. I mean, apart from

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Speaker 2: expressing the frustration of the local community, Whykata District Council

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Speaker 2: mayor twelve minutes past seven pasking could do one a

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Speaker 2: why out of it? Then rote I'm reading this s morning.

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Speaker 2: Couple of boys, good weekend down at the Rotorua auto house,

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Speaker 2: Lake Road, smashed the window, walked on and stole a

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Speaker 2: couple of dirt bikes valued at four thousand dollars. They're

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Speaker 2: on CCTV because none of these people are that bright,

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Speaker 2: so they were wandering around picking the bikes they wanted.

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Speaker 2: The thing that makes the story slightly different? Is their

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Speaker 2: age six and ten? Six and ten so small are

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Speaker 2: they the bikes they picked because they're thick. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: even carry them or walk them because they couldn't handle

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Speaker 2: the way six and ten? Something for Mark Mitchell on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday thirteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At be Mike. The parenting is it fault hugely? Have

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Speaker 2: six to ten year olds are doing those things and

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Speaker 2: they need to be held accountable if you reckon, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Why don't they check warrant and licensing at the same

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Speaker 2: time as doing the breath testing? Well, in my experience

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Speaker 2: they do. It's exactly what they do. The first thing

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Speaker 2: they do is they look at windscreen as they say, hello,

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Speaker 2: if you had a drink, Mike, why don't they just

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Speaker 2: tear gains? The little sods possibly little Harshland. I might

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Speaker 2: be wrong morning. Mike's speaking in corruption. Do we ever

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Speaker 2: hear back on the Mariah voting scandal? You refer to

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Speaker 2: Takata tash Kemp. Yes, that was in the news yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The inference appears to be that they've accepted that that

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Speaker 2: was just an accounting era, an administrative era, bit of

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Speaker 2: paperwork that wasn't quite filled out correctly, and she'll rectify

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Speaker 2: the record. And that, my friends, is the end of that.

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Speaker 2: Mike is the musician Jim Messina who had a hit

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Speaker 2: with your Mama Don't Dance and Your Daddy Don't Rock

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Speaker 2: and Roll in the seventies, as in Loggins and Massiners

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Speaker 2: at the same man. No, it's not good question though,

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Speaker 2: two completely different Masinas, both Jim Messinas. One went into politics,

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Speaker 2: one had a one hit wonder sixteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: Now claim this morning, speaking of music, that AI might

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Speaker 2: turn into a half billion dollar problem for the music industry.

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Speaker 2: Opera have conducted the first of its kind study in

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Speaker 2: this part of the world on the threat of AI.

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Speaker 2: They think in a couple of years, twenty percent of

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Speaker 2: musicians income will be at risk. APRA's Heead of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Operations, Anthony Heay's with us, Anthony morning, Hi, Mike.

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Speaker 2: When I say twenty percent of musicians at risk, is

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Speaker 2: that one in five musicians or is it twenty percent

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Speaker 2: of everyone's income.

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Speaker 23: No, we're talking about income here, right.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to affect twenty percent of your income

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Speaker 2: and that's Basically, AI is going to generate music. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be listening to the music, and the person

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Speaker 2: who wrote that song's not going to get paid because

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Speaker 2: it was a ripoff.

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Speaker 23: There is an aspect that people could lose jobs, lose income,

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Speaker 23: lose livelihoods. I mean, we've been looking at we've been

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Speaker 23: looking at the evolution of AI like everyone over the

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Speaker 23: last few years, and it does feel that right now

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Speaker 23: we're at a of a precipice. It's it's something of

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Speaker 23: a of an industrial revolution.

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Speaker 2: Right. So I've got concern across the Tasman this morning,

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Speaker 2: which I'm assuming is coming from the same survey. Barnes

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Speaker 2: and Higgins and co. Are expressily they're concerned. So what

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Speaker 2: are we looking for some sort of regulation rules around it?

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Speaker 23: Well, I think what what what you know, content creators

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Speaker 23: generally are looking for is to be one part of

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Speaker 23: the discussion.

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Speaker 14: So so big.

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Speaker 23: Tech you know, are actively lobbying governments everywhere to enable

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Speaker 23: these services to be created. At the moment they're they're

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Speaker 23: generating enormous value for those big companies, and the content

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Speaker 23: creators themselves aren't part of that, uh you know, part

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Speaker 23: of that equation. And so yeah, we want to be

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Speaker 23: part of that equation. We want to be part of

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Speaker 23: the discussion if there is legislation that's possible to bring in,

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Speaker 23: as they have done in the EU and states throughout Europe.

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Speaker 2: The think I followed with a great deal of interest.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as much as I'm on your side and

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Speaker 2: we all want to sort it out, I just wonder

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Speaker 2: whether it's a bit a bit of a whack a

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Speaker 2: mole and anything to do with social media in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form. You're going to have endless jurisdictions and

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Speaker 2: endless parts of the world looking to endlessly tie them up,

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Speaker 2: and when they fold, they'll pay a fine because they

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Speaker 2: don't give the monkeys, and the problem will never be solved.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? Or am I being well?

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Speaker 23: I mean it's fair to a certain degree. I think

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Speaker 23: the same the same conversations would have been held one

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Speaker 23: hundred years ago with the advent of radio, when when,

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Speaker 23: when in content was being used by big companies, and

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Speaker 23: there was a way ultimately to include those content creators

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Speaker 23: in that in that in that equation, in that commercial arrangement,

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Speaker 23: and that's what we're kind of looking for here. I

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Speaker 23: agree it's a global problem. I agree it's it's coming

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Speaker 23: at us, you know, at an exponential pace, and and

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Speaker 23: we can't we can't stop it. So we've got to

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Speaker 23: work out how can we how can we live with it,

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Speaker 23: and how can we use it to our best advantage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's a game for you, Anthony. I'm gonna play

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Speaker 2: your piece of music one identify the artist, and to

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Speaker 2: tell me whether it's the real thing or AI generated

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Speaker 2: listen to this, so.

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Speaker 19: It's gonna be forever or it's gonna go down in things?

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Speaker 19: You can tell me what it's over, if the high

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Speaker 19: was worth the game?

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Speaker 2: Who is it?

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Speaker 23: Well, it sounds like Johnny Cash?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Is it real or not?

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Speaker 23: I think it's fake?

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Speaker 2: Well done. I would have picked it. I'm a massive

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Speaker 2: Johnny Cash fan. I would have picked it easily as fake.

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Speaker 2: But I well think that people who don't necessarily hear

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Speaker 2: them all that often wouldn't wouldn't know. And that's that's

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Speaker 2: a I for you.

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Speaker 3: A So we want, we want.

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Speaker 23: We want Johnny Cash or whoever wrote that song to

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Speaker 23: be able to consent to there or otherwise. If they're

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Speaker 23: into it, they're great, jump on. But if they're not,

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Speaker 23: then that they shouldn't have to be subject today.

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Speaker 2: Good, good discussion. Appreciate it. That was an Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: song and Johnny wasn't around at the time when Taylor

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Speaker 2: beggars believe that they haven't had a decent look at

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Speaker 2: the Waite Tangy Tribunal. You see them again on Friday

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Speaker 2: they strike, this time a report that condemns the Treaty

902
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Speaker 2: Principle's Bill. They condemn it and they want to abolish it. Travelers,

903
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Speaker 2: there is no such thing. There is no such thing.

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Speaker 2: The tribunal is like a court. Fortunately it doesn't have

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Speaker 2: the same powers as a court. And indeed, as a

906
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Speaker 2: result of the reports like this, you can surely argue

907
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Speaker 2: it's now nowadays a little more than an advocacy service

908
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Speaker 2: for the aggrieved as opposed to a tribunal or a

909
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Speaker 2: court that should be taken seriously. Such as their interventionism,

910
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Speaker 2: they border on being little more than state funded winges

911
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: these days. How can you as a tribunal of any

912
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: serious standing issue a report into a bill that does

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Speaker 2: not exist. There is no bill, There are no clauses.

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Speaker 2: As we sit here today, what we have is an idea,

915
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: an election commitment, a promise. Nothing has yet been written,

916
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: taken a cabinet fairly assigned off by cabinet. It does

917
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Speaker 2: not exist. So what the tribunal are saying is we

918
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Speaker 2: don't like the idea. Courts and tribunals should deal with fact.

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Speaker 2: They have no fact. They should deal with evidence. They

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Speaker 2: have no evidence. Missus Johnson in the library with the candlestick.

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Speaker 2: I assume, David see Moore as Missus Johnson, the Parliament's

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Speaker 2: the library, but they have no candlestick. They have as

923
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Speaker 2: they would see it, or as you and I would

924
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Speaker 2: see it, no crime. Not only isn't there a bill?

925
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Speaker 2: When there is a bill, guess what you get to

926
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Speaker 2: have a say at Select committee? Everyone gets to have

927
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Speaker 2: a say. Dare I suggest Mary might get to have

928
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Speaker 2: a say. That's called democracy, which ironically is a cornerstone

929
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Speaker 2: of what may or may not turn out to be

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Speaker 2: the Treaty Settlement's Bill. David See more generously on Friday,

931
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Speaker 2: welcome the report as part of the wider discussion he

932
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Speaker 2: wants to have. But as a taxpayer, I am over

933
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Speaker 2: a grouping who clearly have passed their use by date

934
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Speaker 2: for historic grievances, which is what they were set up

935
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Speaker 2: for in the first place, and have moved on to

936
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Speaker 2: grievance gravy trains. It is clear they hate the government.

937
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Speaker 2: They may as well write another report simply saying so.

938
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Speaker 2: At least it would once for all expose the agenda

939
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Speaker 2: that really drives them. Asking a katai taj camp, I

940
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Speaker 2: should also explain that van thing. She fills out some

941
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Speaker 2: more paperwork and we will pretend nothing happened. The more

942
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Speaker 2: substantive part of the allegation around when you turned up

943
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Speaker 2: at the marai of which she was the CEO but

944
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Speaker 2: also a candidate in the local mari seat, and they said, look,

945
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Speaker 2: let us help you fill in some forms here, and

946
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Speaker 2: one might be for the census and one might be

947
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Speaker 2: for the voting form, and let me take care of

948
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Speaker 2: that business for you. That is still being investigated. So

949
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Speaker 2: we'll wait and see how long that takes. Mike, the

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Speaker 2: music industry is deluded. Every aspect of life, job and

951
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Speaker 2: life will be affected by a well even If that's true,

952
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Speaker 2: you don't give up. What do you want to if

953
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Speaker 2: you write songs and music, what do you want to do?

954
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Speaker 2: Just give up and go Well, that's ai speaking of jobs.

955
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Speaker 2: Probably the best thing I read over the weekend. It

956
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Speaker 2: cited out of Australia. They've got a bit of angst

957
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Speaker 2: going at the moment over the cost of roughly speaking,

958
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Speaker 2: a basic degree, an arts degree at university is cracked fifty.

959
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Speaker 2: In other words, it's about sixteen seventeen thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: In other words, it's exactly the same as what happens

961
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Speaker 2: in this country. And they did some very interesting numbers

962
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Speaker 2: as around how much you earn with your degree, whether

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Speaker 2: a degree is actually worth it, and what the employment

964
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Speaker 2: rate is depending on what degree you took. You know,

965
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Speaker 2: debt versus jobs, et cetera. So i'll work you through

966
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Speaker 2: some of that in the next half hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: Still to come though, the lads after rates in the commentary.

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Speaker 1: Box, setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 1: use togsbs.

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Speaker 2: Mike left the country for a week, came back to

973
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Speaker 2: know Neba. Also, where's Simon Dello? Do you know? Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't do the rosters. I'm not here. I don't

975
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Speaker 2: do the admint. I don't even work for these companies.

976
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Speaker 2: Neva's on I don't know where is never she on holiday?

977
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Speaker 2: Assumes she's on holiday. Everyone's on holiday, seemingly. I'm just

978
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Speaker 2: talking about Andrew Willison. He's on holiday as well.

979
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Speaker 20: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm old enough to know Johnny Cash, but I don't

981
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Speaker 2: listen to country music. I knew instantly the song was fake.

982
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because to me or my ear,

983
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Speaker 2: it sounds obviously fake. But the point is that they'll

984
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Speaker 2: tell you that generative I regenerates at a rate of knots,

985
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Speaker 2: and before you know it, if you listen to the

986
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Speaker 2: soft Bank guy, it's going to be ten thousand times

987
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Speaker 2: brighter than we are.

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Speaker 8: So that's where it's a critical thing about that, is

989
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Speaker 8: that you know that particular one was ripping off two

990
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Speaker 8: different artists. It was not just Johnny Cash, but Tailswift

991
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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, I've heard nothing so far in terms of AI

993
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Speaker 2: that you think, No, that's fantastic. You can see the potential.

994
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Speaker 2: Listen to the potential, but where it sits right now?

995
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Speaker 2: It's like that thing that Richard was talking about earlier

996
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Speaker 2: in the morning. How you can't see do you know

997
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Speaker 2: when Jeff Bezos came up with drone deliveries? It was

998
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Speaker 2: twenty years ago? And how you can't see that having

999
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Speaker 2: nine thousand drones in the air delivering pizzas is going

1000
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Speaker 2: to be a problem. I don't know, but they can't.

1001
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Speaker 2: And then when it does become a problem, everyone goes problem.

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Speaker 8: So did you not like the song?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's great. It was fantastic in terms of

1005
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Speaker 2: putting together a tune, But it doesn't sound like anybody

1006
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Speaker 2: who doesn't. I mean, if you go to Jay, here's

1007
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Speaker 2: your task before eight o'clock, go to chat GPT or

1008
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Speaker 2: Generator AI or wherever you go, and say, make this

1009
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Speaker 2: person's voice sound like Randy Travis. Come back to me

1010
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Speaker 2: with that that's general, to AI, that's AI, and then

1011
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Speaker 2: make it so good that I can't tell the difference

1012
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Speaker 2: between this and Randy Travis. That's the test, isn't it?

1013
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Speaker 2: This is this is what? Is this fun? This is fun?

1014
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Speaker 2: It's not for me, it's great fun. Is it still Number?

1015
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Speaker 21: One?

1016
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Speaker 8: I wanted to stop. I write the stuff now.

1017
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Speaker 2: Thirty five minutes away from eight Sport for the lads

1018
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Speaker 2: after eight o'clock. Andrew Sevell and Guy have felt now

1019
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: new reporting to health and safety incidents are costing US

1020
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Speaker 2: four point nine billion dollars a year. They claim nearly

1021
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Speaker 2: half of us are affected by workplace incidents each year.

1022
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Speaker 2: That's a weird one, isn't it. Business Leaders Health and

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Speaker 2: Safety Foruming Executive director Francois Button's with us on this morning.

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Speaker 24: Good morning mite.

1025
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Speaker 2: Fun fact number one that blew me away this morning.

1026
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Speaker 2: Half of us have some sort of incident in the workplace.

1027
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Speaker 2: How's that possible? What's wrong with us?

1028
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 11: Well?

1029
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Speaker 24: I think it's a challenge that we've been asking ourselves

1030
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Speaker 24: as a country, I think now for twenty years.

1031
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Speaker 11: Bi.

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Speaker 24: I think that's the shocking thing. I think our performance

1033
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Speaker 24: around how we look after our people at work does

1034
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Speaker 24: cause concern.

1035
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Speaker 2: Is it all the same sort of industries you would expect, construction, science, mechanics,

1036
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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff or not?

1037
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Speaker 24: Well? I mean what is frustrating as we end up

1038
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Speaker 24: with these predictable surprises that forestry, agriculture, construction and manufacturing,

1039
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Speaker 24: transport logistics are the sect is where we have high

1040
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Speaker 24: risk activity, so they do continue to be at the

1041
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Speaker 24: top of our high injury and fatality rates.

1042
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Speaker 2: How do you link that into productivity? In what is productivity?

1043
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if you fall out of a tree

1044
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Speaker 2: and you break your leg, you're not working anymore, So

1045
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Speaker 2: that's a lack of productivity. But are they completely separate

1046
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Speaker 2: things or not?

1047
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Speaker 24: No, they're very very closely correlated. I mean I would say,

1048
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Speaker 24: you know, if we're injuring or hurting people at work,

1049
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Speaker 24: it's the ultimate waste. We either got the wrong gear

1050
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Speaker 24: for the job, We're either not providing the right training,

1051
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Speaker 24: We're putting people into too much pressure. And when you

1052
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Speaker 24: add all that up. The report we commissioned this year,

1053
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Speaker 24: State of a Thriving Nation and report put the cost

1054
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Speaker 24: at four point nine billion dollars to New Zealand. And

1055
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Speaker 24: that's a conservative estimate around what that cost is. So

1056
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Speaker 24: not only have we lost productivity to our individual businesses

1057
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Speaker 24: and the families of these workers. As a country, this

1058
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Speaker 24: is costing us.

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Speaker 2: How does it work that we are twice as likely

1060
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Speaker 2: to die in Australia? What are they doing where not?

1061
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Speaker 2: Are they overregulated or more regulated?

1062
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Speaker 3: Well?

1063
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Speaker 24: I think there is definitely an issue around regulation. I

1064
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Speaker 24: mean just for comparison across pretty much every industry or

1065
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Speaker 24: sector you want, Australia in fewer people per capita than

1066
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Speaker 24: New Zealand, so it's not just an industry control for

1067
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Speaker 24: forestry or farming. They have the same lead deliver frameworkers

1068
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Speaker 24: us what they've provided in Australia, and it's similar in

1069
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Speaker 24: the UK is they've just got greater clarity with guidance

1070
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Speaker 24: and regulation for workers and businesses, so people are clear

1071
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Speaker 24: on what their expectations are on them and the regulators

1072
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Speaker 24: are more present. Far this years will publically dug into that,

1073
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Speaker 24: and New Zealand have all reactive and proactive when compared

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Speaker 24: to Australia. So I think businesses in Australia just have

1075
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Speaker 24: greater clarity of what's expected of that sense that look,

1076
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Speaker 24: whether it's unions or insurance costs or the regulator, they

1077
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Speaker 24: need to be onto.

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Speaker 2: This and that doesn't affect productivity. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: the more regulated you are, the more rules there are,

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Speaker 2: the more highbreds vests there are, the slower the work

1081
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: rate as opposed to a person once again falling out

1082
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: of a tree and breaking their leg.

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00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 24: Well, look I mean, I think road cones are a

1084
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 24: topical at the moment. I don't think just the present

1085
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 24: of Hyder's and road and that's not safety. That can

1086
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 24: be performance of safety. What drives productivity is good technology,

1087
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 24: but also confidence and clarity. And I think what we

1088
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 24: see in New Zealand is our productivity rates and our

1089
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 24: workplace injury and fertility rates kind of mirror each other

1090
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 24: when we compared to Australia business leaders I talk to, So, look,

1091
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 24: we don't have too much read tape in New Zealand

1092
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 24: at the moment. We've got too much ambiguity.

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00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: We have a lack of clarity, all right, Francis Francois Marton,

1094
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: Business Leaders, Health and Safety Forum Executive Director. It's eighteen

1095
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: minutes away from eight pc. Half of us are affected

1096
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: by workplace incidents each year. So that would mean for

1097
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: those of us who aren't affected, there's somebody else somewhere

1098
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: who's like almost permanently being affected. Well that indicated because

1099
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: no one around here. I mean when Glenn, when you

1100
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: fell over and you weren't at work, is that a

1101
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: workplace injury even though it didn't happen at work.

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00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I guess as walking my dog. Does

1103
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 8: that count as a side hustle?

1104
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 11: No?

1105
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: We You weren't any money from it, were you?

1106
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 8: Well, technically no, I guess I mean, I mean I

1107
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 8: wasn't paying somebody else to do it, so I was

1108
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 8: kind of earning money.

1109
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the stats and stats by the way,

1110
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you the stats in the moment on jobs

1111
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: and universities. But Clark's and Jeremy This Morning is being

1112
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: credited with the applications for ag food and related degrees

1113
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: increasing in Britain by twenty percent. Number of applicants accepted

1114
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: on agricultural courses alone is up eight percent. This is

1115
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: on the back of an eighteen percent rise in twenty

1116
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: twenty one. So all those people just sitting down watching

1117
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Clarkson's farm thought that looks fun. I might go do it.

1118
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: Amazing A seventeen to two.

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: Coo the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be Mike, I called. But yes, there's no way

1122
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: half of us making acc claim every year. It's not

1123
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: a bad point, mind you. The other day I gave

1124
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: you those numbers on disabled people in the country. There's

1125
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: one point one million disabled people in New Zealand, so

1126
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: twenty percent of the population is disabled, which struck me

1127
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: as being astonishing. Mike recently got caught up in the

1128
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: shrink wrap at the bottom of a palate, big fall backwards,

1129
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: two days off work, but still saw in certain places,

1130
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean getting caught up from the shrink wraps. So

1131
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: the story you.

1132
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 8: Tell every paid for and yet funny.

1133
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: What happened to you caught in the shrink wrap? Push

1134
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: you did? So big debate in Australia at the moment,

1135
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're not having one here, is

1136
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: that the arts degree has cracked fifty thousand dollars. In

1137
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: other words, three years of universe at sixteen seventeen thousand

1138
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: dollars a year cracks fifty thousand dollars, and suddenly they

1139
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: find that unacceptable. They're starting to argue that that's debt

1140
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: for life, that if you come out of university with

1141
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: an arts degree and owing fifty thousand dollars, that there's

1142
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: no way in the world you will ever pay it off.

1143
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: What I've told my kids over and over and over

1144
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: and over and over and over again is the numbers

1145
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: you see when you're nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two

1146
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: in terms of being gargantuan, are not the same numbers

1147
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: you see when you're forty two to fifty two and

1148
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: sixty two. In other words, you know, life has a

1149
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: way of, you know, putting things into place. So then

1150
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: we get to the business of do you need to

1151
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: go to university and what are your chances of a job,

1152
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: which to my mind becomes even more interesting. So the

1153
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: highest degrees are the ones you've always thought dentistry, medicine,

1154
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things. Our medicines is one

1155
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: hundred and one thousand in Australia, engineerings one hundred thousand,

1156
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: computings ninety six. But then do you get a job?

1157
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: And I just wonder whether anyone thinks about this where

1158
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: we're sort of been going through at our house for

1159
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and there's an argument that

1160
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: says you're on a pathway you're one of those people

1161
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: is going to university or you one of those people

1162
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: who isn't one of those people who wants to get

1163
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: out into the world and just do your own thing,

1164
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. But nevertheless, do you

1165
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: think about when you go to university what you're doing.

1166
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: Why are you're there, what it's costing, What are the

1167
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: chances of your employment, what are the opportunities out the

1168
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: other side? And in my experience the answers. No, there's

1169
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot of kids at university who are simply there

1170
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: because they haven't worked out what to do in life.

1171
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: Are there there because their mates are there. They're there

1172
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: because they get to drink a lot of drink and

1173
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: get drunk every weekend and get away from mom and dad,

1174
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: and you know, all that sort of stuff happens. There's

1175
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: a few people who got their act together and work

1176
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: it all out. So the employment rate in Australia, and

1177
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: there's no reason to believe it's any different here, is

1178
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: if you do pharmacy, rehab medicine, you're going to get

1179
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: a job. You're almost guaranteed a job. Teaching, you're almost

1180
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: guaranteed a job. Veterinary science engineering ninety percent rate. If

1181
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: you're in pharmacy that sort of job, it's ninety five percent.

1182
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: So in other words, you're coming out, you will find work,

1183
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: and chances are reasonably good paying work. But creative arts

1184
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: in Australia fifty four percent employment rate. In other words,

1185
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: you might you might not, So you've incurred fifty thousand

1186
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: dollars in debt. You might or might not get a job.

1187
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Do you really want to be in the creative arts

1188
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 2: or did you just take that sort of thing because

1189
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: you were bored and you couldn't think of anything else.

1190
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: Communications sixty four percent chance of employment, not high. Science

1191
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: and math sixty nine percent chance of employment. Okay, Humanity

1192
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: seventy one percent. So I think half the problem is

1193
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: not the cost, and it's not the debt. It's what

1194
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: you want to do with it, and where does it

1195
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: actually take you, as opposed to you just fronting up

1196
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: at the age of eighteen or nineteen and thinking, oh well,

1197
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. It is turned away from eight.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate hues.

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Speaker 2: Talk said he it is seven away from it now.

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Speaker 2: Let it's good you Wikitira is an entrepreneur and he

1201
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: was making very good money apparently from selling these ice

1202
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: blocks at school. This is the Northland and that was

1203
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: until the board of trustees killed it. They got involved

1204
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: in this anyway, Are Linux is with us? So we

1205
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: wanted a word Lenox morning to you. Good morning Mike,

1206
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: as I understand it, it was whether it was a

1207
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: charity or not a charity. Is that roe? Let's say

1208
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: so it was a charity versus not being a charity.

1209
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1210
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 7: I guess you could put it that way.

1211
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Is that what they told you? Because you're not

1212
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: a charity, then we're not going to let you do

1213
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: it on the school grounds.

1214
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 7: Well, they said that because it was They actually didn't

1215
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 7: mention anything about me paying myself, but they kind of

1216
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 7: said that just little things that they were saying that

1217
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 7: kind of insad that they weren't happy with it.

1218
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: Why weren't they happy with it? Do you think?

1219
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 7: To be honest, I think it's a bit of tall

1220
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 7: poppy syndrome. I'm not going to name names, but a

1221
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 7: few staff members got a bit jealous and yeah, and

1222
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 7: then it kind of went down from there, okay.

1223
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: And they said you can't do it? Can you do

1224
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: it outside the school? And have you done it outside

1225
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: the school?

1226
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 7: Lots of people have said that to me, and no,

1227
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 7: I do. Sometimes after school I'll go out and sell

1228
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 7: a few things, but I'm just going to move on

1229
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 7: to bigger and better things.

1230
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: To be honest, good on you. No, No, what are

1231
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: these bigger and better things you're moving on to.

1232
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 7: Well, I impoort products from overseas, and I print calendars

1233
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 7: and take photos and organize market days and all sorts

1234
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 7: of things. So I'm looking forward to the future fantastic.

1235
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: How old are you? What year are you in?

1236
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 7: I'm seventeen and I'm a year thirteen student at Kaito.

1237
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: College with a view to what going into business or

1238
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: being an entrepreneur. Yes, and so is it a viable

1239
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: business you're running with all this importation stuff from Bali

1240
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: that you're selling.

1241
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, definitely, it's just taken up. I started last

1242
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 7: year and it's slowly slowly growing. I've just started at

1243
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 7: markets and now I'm going online and into retail stores.

1244
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's good.

1245
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: See. The thing I couldn't work out about the board

1246
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: of trustees is it was an entrepreneurial Don't they have

1247
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: courses at your school in year thirteen running businesses and

1248
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: doing all that sort of stuff.

1249
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 7: Yes, we have business courses at school, and actually our

1250
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 7: school's motto is seek the champion, nurture them and they

1251
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 7: will grow and flourish. And I said to them, I've

1252
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 7: found entrepreneur, your champion inside myself. I just need your

1253
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 7: blessing to enable it.

1254
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't have thought you could argue that clearly

1255
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: they did.

1256
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 7: Yes, he did, even though that's their own vision and goal,

1257
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 7: which is to seek the champion.

1258
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Are you going to university to get a degree?

1259
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not sure.

1260
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 7: I'll keep my options open, but that could be a

1261
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 7: possibility in the future.

1262
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: And are you doing all of this out of kait

1263
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: Tire or you one of those people who are looking

1264
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: to leave kait Tire.

1265
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 7: I'm looking to leave ka Tyre one day, but I'm

1266
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: not sure when.

1267
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: Fantastic, So you'll do the year, You'll get your business,

1268
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: you'll grow big. Next thing you know, you'll come back

1269
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: on this program in a couple of years, you'll be

1270
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: a multimillionaire on the NBA.

1271
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 7: Rich lovely hopefully.

1272
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: Good on you go well, Lenox, appreciate it very much, Lenox. Good.

1273
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: Hugh Wiketa, who's the school board, stopped them selling ice

1274
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: blocks on the school grounds because it was a business

1275
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: and you don't do business on the school grounds, you

1276
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: only run a charity. But I think the inference being

1277
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: is that he was paying himself and because he was

1278
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: paying himself. Therefore that still became a business. Mike, speaking

1279
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: of the North, I drive on the new Pooh Hooy

1280
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: to Walkworth Motorway at the weekend. Here are my thoughts. One,

1281
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: what a brilliant piece of infrastructure. Two why didn't they

1282
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 2: keep it going to fung Array and then the Bay

1283
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: of Islands. Three? Why is the speed SMIT limits so

1284
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: damn low? One you're correct, Two because they don't have

1285
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: enough money and there's no planning in this country and

1286
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: they're hopeless. Three don't know, but they're going to change it, apparently.

1287
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: Simme and Brown has talked about that particular piece of road,

1288
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: along with the way Kadow Expressway and all the roads

1289
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: of national significance being one hundred and twenty. I can

1290
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: tell you being on that road every week, it already

1291
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: is one hundred and twenty for most people. So I

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Speaker 2: think we're self governing. I think that's what that's about.

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Speaker 2: Let's rip into some sport after the news.

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Speaker 1: You're trusted ho the news, sport entertainment's opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: A Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news tog sad.

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Speaker 25: Bes it is no wrong, no run come and at

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Speaker 25: all time here at Brookvale, tho've taken down the Warriors

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Speaker 25: twenty four points to ten.

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Speaker 2: Oh Tiger twenty seven Auckland twenty five between Tasman and Canterbury.

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Speaker 14: Del macor Ah victorious twenty two seven Hawks.

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Speaker 2: By repelling the Southern.

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Speaker 25: Stags thirty one points to seven.

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Speaker 11: While he's alive, there's stamped this game.

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Speaker 14: Like han I win twenty six twenty we are Blacks

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Speaker 14: fifty without loss at eight and Park.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: We'll go have help morning fellas. One morning Mike Andrew

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Speaker 2: was it ever going to be any other way? And

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Speaker 2: explained to me, given it wasn't going to be any

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Speaker 2: other way, How is it that you can be ordinary

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Speaker 2: one week at the elite level and then exceptional the next,

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Speaker 2: and vice versa for Argentina? How does that work?

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Speaker 14: I thought, I thought you might have showed some balance

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Speaker 14: this morning and played what I said last week.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 14: Interestingly, I didn't think so said last week they'd rumble

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Speaker 14: them at Eden Park. Exactly what happened? Look this all

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Speaker 14: black side is twenty to thirty points better every day

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Speaker 14: the week he had stats and Seena. So that Wellington game,

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Speaker 14: it just looked like there was a disconnect with what

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Speaker 14: they're trying to do, disconnect between some of the players

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Speaker 14: that got sorted out last week. Bang big first half.

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Speaker 14: I thought Mike the All Blacks handling in those conditions.

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Speaker 14: It was pouring down most of the day in awkward,

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Speaker 14: I thought the handling was outstanding. Often you see Blues

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Speaker 14: teams and All Blacks teams in night games in Rain

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Speaker 14: and Eden. Park lose control of the old fingertips. But

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Speaker 14: the All Blacks handling I thought was superb. And those

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Speaker 14: little chip kicks over the top as well. Now we

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Speaker 14: awake this massive challenge. Is this two tests in South Africa?

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Speaker 16: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Or are we just talking that up?

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Speaker 14: No? No, no, huge challenge.

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Speaker 2: I can't see if I would argue, correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong guy, I would argue, if we played the

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Speaker 2: way we played on Saturday night, we can beat any

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Speaker 2: side in the world.

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Speaker 20: I would argue that you are erect as well. But

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Speaker 20: I also agree with sav that's a massive challenge.

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Speaker 1: Date.

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Speaker 20: There's no doubt they're the best team in the world

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Speaker 20: at the moment, and they have beaten easily a pretty

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Speaker 20: average Australian side, I'll give you that, but they've they've

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Speaker 20: made them look incredibly second rate. And that was pretty

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Speaker 20: much a South African B team on Saturday night as well.

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Speaker 14: So yeah, there were ten regulars out of that South African.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so they'll bring them all back in South Africa

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Speaker 20: as well, back to back tests. I mean, this is

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Speaker 20: what rugby used to be. You'd go over there. It's

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Speaker 20: not a tour by any stretch, but it's kind of

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Speaker 20: a mini tour and I think it's bloody exciting to

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Speaker 20: see what this All Blacks team can do. They'll need

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Speaker 20: to perform like they did on Saturday to be any but.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole point of it save I mean,

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Speaker 2: what's the point of talking yourself out of it before

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Speaker 2: you've even left the country.

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Speaker 14: If I'm not none, I'm not talking myself out of it.

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Speaker 14: I'm not talking them out of I'm just saying it's

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Speaker 14: the biggest challenge and we'll rugby at the moment. Yes,

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Speaker 14: Iland Ireland went there in July and picked up a win,

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Speaker 14: which is fantastic, But the way the South African's played,

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Speaker 14: especially in that first Test against Australia, I thought they

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Speaker 14: were mag magnificent. They ran the ball, they rumbled it

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Speaker 14: up the middle, they mauled, which they'll do against the

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Speaker 14: All Blacks. I think if that All Black forward pack

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Speaker 14: plays like that in the law in the first thirty

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Speaker 14: forty minutes at each part, yes, they've got a very

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Speaker 14: good chance.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

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Speaker 20: I suspect it'll be what Island did. The All Blacks

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Speaker 20: will win one and lose one. That's what I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: Actually for the records, let's have some fun. So you

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Speaker 2: say one a piece, guy, What do you say, sir?

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Speaker 14: I'd say one apiece. Yeah, they'd be more I think

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 14: they'd be more inclined to win kate Town second week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how sorry and sad? Is the scene going to

1378
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: be for the Warriors or don't we really care about

1379
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: it when we say goodbye to Shawn Johnson given that

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Speaker 2: we're not going to the top eight and the season's

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Speaker 2: over and it's all a bit of a disaster.

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Speaker 20: Look, I hope for him that a good and I

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 20: would imagine that it's another sell out because they've been

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01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,479
Speaker 20: selling out all their games, and I hope for him

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 20: that there's a good crowd in saying that there's just

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Speaker 20: another disappointing and poor performance on Friday Night, Wasn't it

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Speaker 20: from a team that has on paper so much from us,

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01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 20: so much talent, And it's going to be another season

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Speaker 20: of failure. And I know we've spoken about this in

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Speaker 20: recent weeks, and you brought it a couple of times

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Speaker 20: about Andrew Webster, who you know, there was so much

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Speaker 20: promise about him, and now you kind of sit back

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 20: and you go, well, what's going on? Why can't a

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Speaker 20: coach who seemingly had everything going for and was doing

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 20: everything so well and then they just can't produce it

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Speaker 20: on the field. I can't put my finger on what

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 20: is going on. As I say, I think they've got

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Speaker 20: the right team, but again year so disappointed.

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Speaker 2: They got the same team this year as they had

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Speaker 2: last year, within a margin, and so you're doing you know,

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: so something's not right and that's the promise. Like I've

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01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: been to therapy and it hasn't worked, and I've wasted

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: all my money on the doctor and I just don't

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: know where I'm at now.

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Speaker 14: I think didn't we come up with a theory earlier

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Speaker 14: a few weeks or several weeks ago that it just

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Speaker 14: didn't live up to expectations, or they've struggled living up

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 14: to those expectations from last year.

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Speaker 2: It's like me coming on this program and it's a

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01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: crap program on a Monday because I struggled to live

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: up the expectations on a fry. I mean, that doesn't

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: even make sense.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but that's that's why you who you are. Every

1414
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 14: day's perfection.

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Speaker 2: Right, keep it? Come on, Andrew, you're telling it mate.

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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, look, you've got the same players, you've got

1417
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 14: the same physical pack, you've got a very good coach.

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01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 14: So how else do you explain? It's The irony with

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 14: Sewan Johnson is yes, he'll be sent off well this

1420
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 14: week and it's a shame that not in the playoffs

1421
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 14: and sending Johnson off like they should. But on Friday night,

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 14: there were a couple of times where he made some

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 14: very very odd decisions late in the tackle count, and

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Speaker 14: I thought it sort of probably sums up Sewan Johnson's career.

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Speaker 2: It does that.

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Speaker 20: I was about to say, will he be missed? That's

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Speaker 20: the question. Will you be missed by the Warriors and

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 20: will he be missed by the fans?

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Speaker 2: Martin hadn't come along, Yes, and given the he'll.

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Speaker 14: Be missed, I think he'll be missed it I think

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 14: he's I think he's I think he's I think he's genu.

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Speaker 2: It's like saying that you miss Stacy Jones. I mean,

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: of course you do, but it mean he's still around,

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01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's it's like you make

1435
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: your contribution at the time moves on.

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Speaker 20: I think Stacy Jones is probably more consistent, wasn't he

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01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 20: He is Sean Johnson on his day can be arguably

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Speaker 20: one of his players in the n r L. But

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Speaker 20: consistently consistency is thank you? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 20: I don't know. Will you be missed? I think by

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 20: a large chunk of the fans he will be because

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01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 20: they've got memories of what he can do. But in

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Speaker 20: terms of consistency, will you be missed? Not so sure.

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Speaker 2: Two pieces of video to talk to you guys about

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: in the moment, Guy have eld Andrew Saville more shortly

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Speaker 2: thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car

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Speaker 1: it by News.

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Speaker 2: Talk Zippus Talks sixteen past eight, the Monday Morning Commentary

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Speaker 2: barks on the mic hosking breakfast and your saivill I

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: go havel, Well that's right. Video piece number one. Have

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01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: you guys seen the double hits or the double bounce

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: at the Cincinnati Masters last week? Yes, right, yes, double

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: hit or not or double bounce or not one.

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm not sure about a double double bounce, but

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 20: he hits it into the hits it twice in the course.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for people who haven't seen it, look it

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01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: up because it's fantastic.

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Speaker 20: And here's I think here's the problem with with that

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Speaker 20: sort of thing, is that in sport these days, and

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Speaker 20: particularly in tennis as well, they use so much technologic

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01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 20: try and get the calls right. So why can't they

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Speaker 20: use technology in that time?

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: You're a good question for everything.

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Speaker 20: You don't use it at all.

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Speaker 2: Some tournaments apparently have the technology, others don't. So in

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Speaker 2: this particular tournament been Cincinnati, they didn't have the technology,

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: didn't review it. If they reviewed it, they would have

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Speaker 2: seen the umpire.

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Speaker 14: That's a pretty big pre US Open tournament.

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Speaker 2: No you think I would have thought so. Anyway, it

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: was game, set and match and the guy goes come

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Speaker 2: on and so so how you get past that. I

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01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: don't know. Second piece of video, Simone Biles and her

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Speaker 2: husband doing the rope climb. Have either of you seen it?

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Speaker 20: I have not.

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01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: No, you've got it. You've got It's from a program

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: called Hard Knocks. Jonathan Owens is her husband. He's a

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bear. So they're in the gym, big thick rope

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Speaker 2: to the ceiling. Right. You will have done it at school?

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Speaker 14: Do they go straight up?

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: Straight up? Straight up with just your arms? She when

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Speaker 2: they say go, she goes from the floor of the

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Speaker 2: gym to the ceiling of the gym in five seconds.

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Speaker 20: Sounds like the members of the Country Box, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: If you say so?

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Speaker 14: And Jonathan Awen, you seem to have a lot of

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Speaker 14: time on your hands watching TikTok clips.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the bike. So on the bike, I used

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: to do a thing on the I've got a screen

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: that takes me around the world to different places, and

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: I've got sick of that. So now I do the YouTube,

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 2: and I'm watching clips and programs and stuff on the YouTube.

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Speaker 20: I do the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I do the YouTube.

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Speaker 14: I'll just motivate you to pedal faster.

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Speaker 2: And very much so you're on very much so I

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Speaker 2: do you should? You should try. We'll do a challenge.

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Speaker 2: I do about was it in say half an hour?

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Speaker 2: I do about three fifty calories in half an hour?

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Speaker 14: Yeah that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah, what what

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 14: did do you doing?

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01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: See? Now that's the button I hit. I do miles

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Speaker 2: per and so did The wattage button is separate. I

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: don't know, I need to look that up peak. I

1507
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: think does three ten sound right?

1508
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 14: Yeah? That's quite good for over four hundred, I think

1509
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 14: you're really busting your gut by some of those America's

1510
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 14: Cup cyclaus. They're probably doing four or five hundred at least.

1511
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: You know Toto Wolf, Yeah, you know he's in good nick.

1512
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: He was on one of those boats the other day.

1513
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: He was on the British America's Cup boat and they

1514
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: said he's of America's Cup caliber in terms of religion.

1515
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,440
Speaker 2: Power yep, on a bike incredible?

1516
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 14: Ant would you how would you go on the ropes?

1517
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 14: Because you're power.

1518
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: Would get off the ground. I'd barely get off the ground.

1519
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 14: I was going to say, I think you do okay

1520
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 14: because you're quite little and light. But although your arms

1521
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 14: are quite skinny out there.

1522
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: Do you reckon that do you reckon? That's it because

1523
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: here's the thing. He the husband, Jonathan Owens, is a

1524
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: bank and he's a big guy, but he's very, very athletic,

1525
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: and he just flailed. I mean he got there, but

1526
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: he flailed because he's got just sheer top half power.

1527
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 14: She's he's lifting a lot more weight, right.

1528
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's tiny. She had her legs out horizontal

1529
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: for a start and just literally went up like an elevator.

1530
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: It was incredible.

1531
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 14: So yeah, those gymnasts were your male female, you're on

1532
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 14: the vault, you're on the horse whatever. They're immensely strong.

1533
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah quick, all right, so those two videos people can

1534
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: lookup because they're fantastic.

1535
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 14: Have you ever tried to do the rings?

1536
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: We did the rings at school?

1537
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, same, and that just it's impossible.

1538
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: No, I could do. I couldn't do the horizontal with

1539
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: your arms out the side. I couldn't do that. Couldn't

1540
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: hold myself. But I could hold myself upside down.

1541
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 20: Oh that's pretty impressive.

1542
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I could go. I could swing myself up

1543
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: so I was vertical and then hold the rings.

1544
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 20: At that point, Christy, I would have thought that would

1545
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 20: have been harder than the other way.

1546
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,520
Speaker 2: No horizontal.

1547
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 14: I'm surprised I had the gymnastics gear at Limbod High.

1548
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: Well, we weren't necessarily at Lombard High. We went to

1549
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: rich people's schools where they had properly equipment.

1550
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 14: That's kind of saying you would have had a good

1551
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 14: you would have had a good shooting team.

1552
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: We had a we had a matt, you know for

1553
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: the tumbling, and that was about us. Andrew, did you get.

1554
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 14: A pommel horse? We had the ropes, weed everything back

1555
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 14: in the day. What was it going to I'd never

1556
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 14: forgot what I was going to ask you.

1557
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: Does doesn't matter?

1558
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 14: Are we getting any ticks on the watts on the wattage?

1559
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: Okay? No, not a single text on the wattage, not

1560
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: a single text on the wattage. But I am going

1561
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: to hit the watch. What should I be aiming for?

1562
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: If you over If I came back next week and

1563
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: said over four hundred, you'll be blown away.

1564
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 14: Yes I can. I can let rip for a little

1565
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 14: bit over four hundred. But that's that's you know, that's top,

1566
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 14: that's bloody top pole.

1567
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 2: Top year And what do you do, guy, I wouldn't

1568
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: have a clue. I don't believe you're putting out at

1569
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: three ten maybe a sprint, but you'd be down at

1570
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: one eighty to two twenty. So you see, the haters

1571
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: are out already. Guy, I can't be an elite athlete

1572
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: without the haters coming.

1573
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 8: Just be careful online bullies, because we don't want you

1574
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 8: know the headline tomorrow Myke Hosking found dead next to

1575
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 8: the station bike trying to achieve America's capstyle wattage.

1576
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 14: Hosking. Hosking taken to many places by video screen, but

1577
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 14: not the right place. It's the headline.

1578
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, guys. We'll see you next Monday.

1579
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: Andrew Seville and Guy have elt it take twenty two already.

1580
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: Call the mic costume Breakfast with Alvida, Retirement Commune News

1581
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: togs Head be Mike.

1582
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: The rule in tennis is that if you hit the

1583
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: ball twice consecutively, but it's in one continuous stroke, that's okay.

1584
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: I've never heard that rule in my life. I played

1585
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: tennis every weekend most of my childhood at a competitive level,

1586
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: and I've never heard that question that that rule once.

1587
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: Mike is like involved when riding this bike. No, John

1588
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: john Ford Teraradale's at the whole dealership.

1589
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 8: So you're doing it nude.

1590
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: Not doing it nude. I'm just writing some some casual

1591
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 2: attire topless, though it's a bit warm after a while.

1592
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: If you average three hundred watts for an hour, you'd

1593
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: be above average. I'm above average day. But don't you

1594
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: don't you question whether.

1595
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 8: I am abas we've just researched the rule?

1596
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: Is it? Really so? In a single stroke moving forward

1597
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: you head it boom boom, and as long as you're

1598
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: moving forward, that's that's what a stupid rule. I could

1599
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: have used that several times when I did exactly that,

1600
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that rule exists. It strikes me

1601
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: as a ridiculous rule. I always thought wattage was more

1602
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: about your peak moment, like your searche like you know

1603
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: the cycles on the on the American's cup, your search

1604
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: you go bank hard, far short, and you measure your

1605
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: maximum wattas that's what I thought.

1606
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 8: Wow, you just thought they had a bit of space

1607
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 8: on the little monitor, and so they put a.

1608
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: Fair enough read the watts MX racer here eight hundred

1609
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: watts rubbish, absolute crap. What's your bike?

1610
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: My?

1611
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: It's an eye fit. I thoroughly recommend Effeit discovered it

1612
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: purely biked and think of the thing my wife discovered it.

1613
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: But it's it's a bike with a screen. Screen. The

1614
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: brilliance of the screen as you're not bored, and you

1615
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: can go anywhere in the world and you can do

1616
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: any sort of cycling. You can do sand, you can

1617
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: do rocks, you can do river beds, you can do mountains,

1618
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: you can do snow, you can do road, you can

1619
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: do short, you can do long, you can do fast,

1620
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 2: you can do slow, different types of bikes, mountain road,

1621
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing. So it sort of keeps you interested.

1622
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: And there's a couple of New Zealand versions, and there's

1623
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: a couple of people. I've been around Lake Wanica and

1624
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: there's a New Zealander who does a Swiss series that

1625
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: you're in the mountains of Switzerland round Mont Blanc and

1626
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: those sort of places in New Zealand are doing that.

1627
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: Some of them are entertaining, some of them aren't, but

1628
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: as well worth doing. It's easy way to keep yourself

1629
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: fit and healthy. Steve Price out of Australia for you

1630
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: in a couple of moments. This infrastructure thing I was

1631
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: reading in how the Prime Minister went across and looked

1632
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: at infrastructure in New South Wales. Given what I read

1633
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: over the weekend, I'm just not sure what he was

1634
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: there for. And I'll explain more about that just a moment.

1635
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

1636
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: Mike casting Breakfast with a Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

1637
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: News Talks be Mike.

1638
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: Have you seen the topic of Jaya Durn's panel discussion? Yes,

1639
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: I have. It's trying to avoid it. You're triggering me.

1640
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: Don't trigger me. Used to cycle Mike on the Vlodrome,

1641
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: This is now no Just correct me if I'm wrong.

1642
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: So you've now got me obsessed about wattage. So I'm

1643
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna go home today. I'm going to hit the watts

1644
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 2: big time. I'm going to dial up the watts on

1645
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: the bike. Now, what I'm assuming I need to do

1646
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: on wattage is pick a big gear and go hard

1647
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: over a short period of time. Right, this is what

1648
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm working on, Mike. I was on the Vlodrome could

1649
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: hit fifteen hundred watts in a ten second sprint. Olympians

1650
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: the north of two thousand these days. So I'm gonna

1651
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: do Can.

1652
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 8: We If you do get that high, can we then

1653
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 8: plug you back into the national grid.

1654
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: You've got to be creative that level, can't you surely?

1655
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: I mean, at least you could put enough energy into

1656
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: a room for a single bulb twenty two minutes away

1657
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: from nine.

1658
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 16: International correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind

1659
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 16: for New Zealand business who are.

1660
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 2: Astralia to go through.

1661
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 11: Can't trig good money to you, I'd be sending you

1662
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 11: to the local hospital emergency.

1663
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: Something could pop. Now correct me if I'm wrong, because

1664
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about this as yet. If

1665
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: I arrive in Australia under this new visa scheme that

1666
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: you haven't quite got up, but maybe you will, and

1667
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: I say, now, look Hamas there are there are a

1668
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: bit you know, the Western world's a bit down on them.

1669
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: I don't give money to them directly, but they're not

1670
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: as bad as you make up. And they say, welcome

1671
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 2: to Australia. How is that not seen by virtually everyone

1672
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: in Australia is a problem.

1673
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 11: Well it is, except it's not seen as a problem

1674
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 11: by the government that leaves the country. That's the problem,

1675
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 11: and that interview process that you just describe. That's probably

1676
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 11: extensive compared to what's going on currently. So just to

1677
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 11: backtrack on this, we have taken already a number in

1678
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 11: the thousands of Palestinian refugees out of Gaza. There's not

1679
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 11: been an arrival since November. That's basically because you can't

1680
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 11: get out of Palestine. I mean all of the border

1681
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 11: crossings is shut. But we are intending to take as

1682
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 11: many as three four thousand not these people. Now it's

1683
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 11: been revealed the process on the ground in Palestine. Clearly

1684
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 11: you can't have the sort of interview you would normally

1685
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 11: have with someone who you were granting a visa to

1686
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 11: come here as a refugee. So it was revealed yesterday

1687
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,480
Speaker 11: by a senior cabinet minister, Ed Husick, who is himself

1688
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 11: the first Muslim cabinet minister in Australia. Whether it was

1689
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 11: a slip of the tongue or it just came out

1690
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 11: or he intended to say this, but he made the

1691
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 11: point that those visas that are now being issued to

1692
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 11: Palestinians to come here when they can get out are

1693
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 11: often tourist visas, so they're not refugee visas at all.

1694
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 11: Now you can look at that two ways. Does that

1695
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 11: mean well? And he said they are quicker to grant

1696
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 11: tourist visa. I mean, obviously, if you're going to come

1697
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 11: here for a holiday, we're not going to trawl through

1698
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 11: your background and find out if you've been supporting a

1699
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 11: terrorist organization. So Peter Dutton has, according to some commentary,

1700
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 11: controversially said, look, while this conflict is on, we should

1701
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 11: take no refugees from Palestine at all. And I would

1702
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 11: think the majority of the public would agree with that,

1703
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 11: but the government is calling one of the teals is

1704
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 11: called him a racist. It's a really ugly argument. I

1705
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 11: think Dunton has the public on his side.

1706
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: But I couldn't agree more because I mean what they

1707
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: try and mix it up with is these are victims

1708
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: of Warren of that, there is no question. Are there

1709
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: innocent gardens? Of course there are. But you know, you

1710
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: just can't separate the two out en mass at a

1711
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: border and a visa process because you never know, and

1712
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: it only takes the one mistake before you're saying, hang on,

1713
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: we probably went a bit far. I mean, that's a

1714
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: very nutshell, isn't it.

1715
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, And some of those interviews have been as little

1716
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 11: as less than an hour, and imagine what it would

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Speaker 11: be like trying to get any digital information about a

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Speaker 11: person's background in Palestine at the best of times, let

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Speaker 11: alone during a war.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, the Victorian Public Service, fifty four thousand of them

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Speaker 2: getting a bonus obviously cracking on with it. And that's

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Speaker 2: gold plated stuff, is it.

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Speaker 11: I stumbled upon this last week because someone close to

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Speaker 11: me actually works as Victorian Public Service and during their

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Speaker 11: last EBA, their work agreement where they've got a four

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Speaker 11: percent a year over three year pay rise, there was

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Speaker 11: a clause inserted there where they would all and I'm

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Speaker 11: talking fifty four thousand people, many of them working at

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Speaker 11: home and not refusing to go to the office, still

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 11: are going to get a quote cost of living benefit

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Speaker 11: valued at six hundred dollars each non means tested up

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Speaker 11: to people earning two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

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Speaker 11: being paid to some public servants who've already left the

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Speaker 11: public service because they were employed there when this agreement

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Speaker 11: was struck. It's going to cost three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 11: million Victorian taxpayers dollars. And as you and I might

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Speaker 11: well know, Victoria is broken.

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Speaker 2: This is true north of the border New South Wales.

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Speaker 2: We started talking about this briefly last week. These Liberals,

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Speaker 2: the councils, the shambles. I mean, I still haven't got

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Speaker 2: to the bottom of how it happened.

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Speaker 11: Well, the people who made it not happen has been

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Speaker 11: sacked and now Peter Dutton and the federal Liberals say

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 11: they're going to take over the New Southwest branch if

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Speaker 11: they can. So it's local government elections. One hundred and

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Speaker 11: forty Liberal candidates to stand for local government elections are

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Speaker 11: in October. Many of them are sitting council members, so

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Speaker 11: they're being re elected. But you have to put in

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Speaker 11: a nomination form, which would seem to make sense. But

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Speaker 11: whoever the geniuses were running the Liberal Party in New

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Speaker 11: South Wales, the branches, the state director Richard Shields, he

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Speaker 11: got sacked at the end of last week because they

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 11: forgot to put in the form and now it looks

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Speaker 11: like they're all going to be sacked and Dutton's mob

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Speaker 11: will take over. I mean, it is as you are.

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Speaker 11: It is laughable, but it also shows what absolute chaos

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Speaker 11: trails inside parts of the Liberal Party across Australia.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the Metro line under Sydney Harbor. Is that today

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Speaker 2: it's opening or is it already open?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? Right, I'm sitting in Sydney talking to you right now.

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Speaker 11: I'm steering at the Harbor Bridge. Actually right. This thing

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Speaker 11: is four stations under the city. Two tunnels bought under

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Speaker 11: Sydney Harbor twenty billion dollars. First trains took off at

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Speaker 11: four point fifty eight this morning from the Southern station

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Speaker 11: and at for about five minutes later from the Northwestern station.

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Speaker 11: Trains run of one hundred klimeters an hour driverless. It

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Speaker 11: is a remarkable engineering project, and when you compare it

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Speaker 11: to the nonsense it's going on in Victoria where they

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Speaker 11: dug one hole, it's quite remarkable. I don't think any

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Speaker 11: of us as tourists produce it, but it's designed to

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Speaker 11: move large numbers of community.

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Speaker 2: Good. Well, let me ask you this because our Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister was over there last week looking at that and

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Speaker 2: other infrastructural products, because in this country we're useless at

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Speaker 2: building things, and he wants to get, you know, work

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Speaker 2: out how it is. Would the people of Sydney argue

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Speaker 2: that the time it's taken, the money its cost be

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Speaker 2: well worth it to get what they've got.

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Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely right because those northwestern so as you tried

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Speaker 11: ever to drive in there. No, it's peak our right now.

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Speaker 11: As I said, I'm looking at the heart of wigs

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Speaker 11: not moving and so public transport and the use of

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Speaker 11: trains is one is the way you would need to

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Speaker 11: get to work if you needed to from out there.

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Speaker 11: It's a remarkable piece of work. It's got three more

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Speaker 11: stages to go. It will eventually circle Sydney and it'll

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Speaker 11: make Sydney, which I think is the only truly international

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Speaker 11: city in Australia. It'll make a city like other places

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Speaker 11: where we use undergrounds like Tokyo and London.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Go well see Wednesday appreciate a Steve Price out

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Speaker 2: of Australia. It's eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 2: At be Mike, I'm a similar age and views to you.

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Speaker 2: Listening to you as like listening to myself, accept more

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Speaker 2: eloquent and smarter. If you like Colin from Accounts you

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Speaker 2: love doctor Doctor CBNSID plus Mike, do you have an agree?

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Speaker 2: Make you sound a bit jealous? No, I don't have it?

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Speaker 2: Agree and I'm not jealous. What a champion Lenox is.

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Speaker 2: This is a young man we interviewed before eight o'clock,

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Speaker 2: leader of the future of a breath of fresh could

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Speaker 2: not agree with you more. Mike Turta Francis year, seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty watts for more than thirty minutes up

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Speaker 2: some of the clients. That's extraordinary, isn't it. Mike good Day,

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Speaker 2: I fit trainer Reagan Piers here, please to hear you're

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Speaker 2: you're not sweating, you're not working hard enough. The yougo

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Speaker 2: this guy's and coin stuff Haveried.

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Speaker 8: Have you tried swift Swift Yeah, it's a similar sort

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Speaker 8: of thing, but like they have courses like you can

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Speaker 8: do one where you go on a clear track above

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Speaker 8: Central Park in New York. So it's something that's not

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Speaker 8: actually there you're flying, but no, no, it's like you know,

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Speaker 8: you can see down through the track and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: So they take it to another level.

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Speaker 2: Is that downloadable? Is what you're saying.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's the same sort of thing as I fat,

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Speaker 8: it's just a competitive it's.

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Speaker 2: A different thing. Tour de Francis Year seven fifty one

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Speaker 2: is strong. I'm going to get into this. I'm still

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Speaker 2: confused about it. Mike. What a great school board they've

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Speaker 2: taught that young entrepreneur that in this country, if you

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Speaker 2: have a great idea for a business, that you will

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Speaker 2: that will benefit people to the point that they will

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Speaker 2: pay for your product or service, you can make money

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Speaker 2: and perhaps create jobs. Then they closed them down. It's

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Speaker 2: a weird old business, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Look up FTP Functional threshold Performance. This is your sixty

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Speaker 2: minute max watts. I'm at three to five. I can

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Speaker 2: peak about eight hundred for a few seconds. Does it

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Speaker 2: make sense? Does it? I don't know the Disindra doing

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Speaker 2: thing just quickly, and I'm falling into the trap of

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Speaker 2: talking about Desindra dun And I think I swore off

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Speaker 2: ever talking about her again. Tell me why this is news.

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Speaker 2: Tell me why she's in the news this morning. She's

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Speaker 2: attending the Democratic Convention. So how many thousand you recon ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty one thousand people? Are we going to cover them all?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we'll cover Karmela Harris for fairly serious reasons,

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Speaker 2: but just because she's turning up Why is that news?

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Speaker 2: Tell me why that news? Well, the other thing is

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Speaker 2: she's at a quote unquote side event. She is at

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Speaker 2: the Center for American Progress Action Fund, which is of

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Speaker 2: course a think tank and an advocacy or organization. Still,

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Speaker 2: I asked you the question again, is this news? She's

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Speaker 2: going to talk to a think tank or be part

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Speaker 2: of a panel. Patrick Gaspard, who's a former US Ambassador

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Speaker 2: to South Africa, will be leading the discussion on quote

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Speaker 2: unquote how to address the anxiety of our times, advance

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Speaker 2: social policy to solve problems that affect everyday life, and

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Speaker 2: begin to heal our nation.

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Speaker 8: So I'm just working that out. Center for American Progress

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Speaker 8: Action Fund.

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Speaker 2: Capuff, capuff. So why is any of that news? So

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01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: she's turning up to a panel discussion about nothing. How

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Speaker 2: is that news? And you wonder why the media has

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Speaker 2: the reputation it has. Nine Away from Nine.

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Speaker 3: The my costing breakfast with the Range Rover Villas.

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Speaker 2: She talked about a couple of months ago, very sad

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Speaker 2: to see all the Ted Baker stores are going to

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Speaker 2: be closed as off tomorrow in Britain, the remaining ones

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Speaker 2: who are going to be closed, and went into administration

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Speaker 2: in March of this year. Authentic Brands group only intellectual property,

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Speaker 2: which is why I assume, and I think I'm right

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Speaker 2: in saying that the ted Bakers in this part of

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Speaker 2: the world aren't closing. They've got a licensing agreements in Asia,

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. They opened it in Glasgow back

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Speaker 2: in eighty eight. But I quite like Ted Baker and

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Speaker 2: what they were about. But anyway, so far they've closed

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Speaker 2: fifteen shops and two hundred and forty five jobs and

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Speaker 2: another thirty one about to be closed in five hundred

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Speaker 2: more jobs going, which is very very sad. Mike a

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Speaker 2: suggestion for a new segment. What's up, Mike, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Do we pay for those or not? Just take them

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Speaker 2: and run?

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Speaker 8: Oh no, we just take them.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with MS Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

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Speaker 2: There's this thing on TikTok which I was reading about

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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and it's yet more stupidity.

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Speaker 2: They speed songs up by twenty five thirty percent. The rationale,

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Speaker 2: there's no rationale. They're saying. They do this so that

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Speaker 2: they can hear more stuff. So anyway, so what we've

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Speaker 2: done is take four of my favorite songs, and we've

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Speaker 2: sped them up by thirty percent. And my job now

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Speaker 2: is to pick one what the song is, and two

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Speaker 2: whether I like it sped up or not. Okay, are

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Speaker 2: you ready Glenn? No, here's song number one and it's stupid?

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Speaker 2: Is that only thirty percent? Geez? I wouldn't have said

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Speaker 2: thirty percent. The more fun game to play is how

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Speaker 2: much do you think I've sped this song up by?

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Speaker 2: And I would have said fifty two percent on that.

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Speaker 2: So thirty percent for Bob Dylan, not dark yet brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Song number two? Oh yeah, Dolly parton the Grass is

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Speaker 2: Blue and the Thing That's green. It's a beautiful song.

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Speaker 2: Is there only thirty percent as well? See, I would

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Speaker 2: have said sixty percent. That's used like chipmunkysk at that

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Speaker 2: particular point.

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Speaker 8: Too, i'est I'm be interested to see if you get us

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Speaker 8: next one?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Three? Here it is not respect? Oh he's good,

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Speaker 2: it's good.

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Speaker 14: He's going.

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Speaker 2: I love this game. Number four dominion? Why am I

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Speaker 2: on radio?

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Speaker 8: Can we never do this again?

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Speaker 2: Why can't I be on the chaser?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: What's the tell? They must have made a television program

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Speaker 2: for something as stupid as that. Anyway, I do find

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Speaker 2: it hard to believe that's it, and that's a treat.

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Speaker 2: And apparently you put them all together, if you put

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Speaker 2: them all together, and not put them together well.

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Speaker 8: And the point is that addists are actually putting out

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Speaker 8: their own versions of their songs faster, they pre mix.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we do that to the show and we

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Speaker 2: can be home by ten past seven. It sounds like,

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Speaker 2: why don't we do that?

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Speaker 24: Good Bye, come Baye, Come bye, Evy Dice three days, Happy.

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Speaker 3: Days, yemmen.

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