1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Morning, seven past seven. So we have the introduction of 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: a time frame goal to try and speed up district 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: court cases. Eighty one percent of district court cases are 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: determined within the timeframes now, but the aim is to 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: reach ninety percent. The Chief District Court Judge Hemi Talman, 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: who is with us, very good morning to. 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: You, Kyoto, make good. 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Going to go from eighty one to ninety? How dramatically 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: or drastically do things need to change? 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: I think it's going to require coordinated action across the 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: justice sector to achieve this, and that's really part of 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the idea behind setting a benchmark or a standard of 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: ninety percent to focus the coordinated efforts in that direction. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: The eighty one to ninety gap is that all the 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: same stuff going wrong. In other words, the paperwork isn't there, 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: or the file is lost, or there aren't enough people 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: or something. 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be really the challenge that 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: we have in front of us, Mike, for all of 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: the verious parts of the justice sector to look at 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: their own organizations to try and identify the areas where 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: there are room for improvement and to essentially lift performance 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: both individually and collectively to assist the court to get 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: to this benchmark of ninety percent. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Is there a will? 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: I think there's a definite commitment across the whole sector. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because when you 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: put aside all of the numbers that are involved, you're 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: actually talking about people waiting for their cases to be 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: heard and experiencing the delay brings with it that idea 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: for many people at least putting lives on hold, and 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: so there is great commitment across the sector to try 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: and reduce those delays. 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Is it resource required? 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: What we will be doing is looking to make the 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: best use of the resources that we do have at 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: the moment. I think that there's been a lot of 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: work that has been happening at the moment to try 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: and maximize the use of what we have at the moment. 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: If you can do it anywhere, is the district court 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: the place to do it as opposed to High and 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: appeal et cetera or not. 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: I think the district court is most definitely the place 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: where we need to do this. It's also important to 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: bear in mind that, because of the separation of powers 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: and judicial independence, this standard can really only be set 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: by the head of the court. The Chief District Court 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: judge really is the only one who has the constitutional 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: power to do this, and so it's a step that's 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: been taken and there is a great deal of support 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: behind it across the sector to do so. 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Okay, are you cognizant of the idea? First? In the 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: category one? This is for people who aren't going to jail, 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: you want to get them done within six months? Are 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: those the ones you could shuffle through really quickly to 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: bolster the numbers on the more problematic cases and would 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: that worry people? 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Well? Category one is finely, Mike. That's the category where 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: there's the six month time frame. It's pretty important that 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: the idea of timely justice goes together. So it's important 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: to reduce delay. It's also very important to ensure that 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: fair trial rights are still observed and protected and that 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: justice is still administered. So there's a balance involved in 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: all of this. 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Got my diary in front of me, tell me when 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I invite you back on to tell me it's working. 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's something we can speak about offline, Mike, because 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: we have definitely said an expectation across the sector that 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: we're looking towards. June twenty twenty seven. This is not 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: going to be easy. There are going to be challenges 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: ahead of us and we will do our best to 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: throw everything at it that we've got at the moment 73 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: to try and reduce these delays. 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I like your positivity, go well, appreciate it very much 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: and we'll stay in touch. Judge Hemi Tamanu, who is 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the Chief District's Court Judge eleven minutes past seven. For 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: more from The Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to News 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Talk Set B from six am weekdays, or follow the 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.