1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,413 Speaker 1: from News. 3 00:00:11,173 --> 00:00:16,053 Speaker 2: Talks at b News Talks and there's time to talk technology. 4 00:00:16,093 --> 00:00:18,373 Speaker 2: And joining me now is Paul stin House. Good morning, 5 00:00:19,213 --> 00:00:23,733 Speaker 2: Good morning. Where are you? You are in New York 6 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,413 Speaker 2: as it's snowing? Is this snow on the ground. 7 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:28,813 Speaker 3: It was trying to snow earlier today, actually, but no, 8 00:00:28,933 --> 00:00:31,813 Speaker 3: it's just a little gray and cold. 9 00:00:32,453 --> 00:00:32,693 Speaker 1: Okay. 10 00:00:32,773 --> 00:00:34,133 Speaker 2: I was really hoping you were going to set this 11 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:37,773 Speaker 2: beautiful sort of white Christmas cut five for me. But okay, 12 00:00:37,813 --> 00:00:38,973 Speaker 2: but a slash on a bit of gray. 13 00:00:39,093 --> 00:00:39,333 Speaker 3: Great. 14 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:43,573 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, you're talking about something today, which it's funny 15 00:00:43,613 --> 00:00:45,053 Speaker 2: you bring this up because I was sort of talking 16 00:00:45,053 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 2: to a girlfriend about about this during the week and 17 00:00:47,973 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 2: she'd almost been scammed and realized that probably the sensible 18 00:00:50,573 --> 00:00:52,253 Speaker 2: thing to do a bit of change all her passwords. 19 00:00:52,253 --> 00:00:54,133 Speaker 2: And then we can't look at each other, and we thought, 20 00:00:54,693 --> 00:00:56,653 Speaker 2: it's a bit of you forday, you don't don't. 21 00:00:56,493 --> 00:00:59,373 Speaker 3: Don't tell me it's password one two three or one 22 00:00:59,413 --> 00:01:03,213 Speaker 3: two three four five six wirty one two three. 23 00:01:03,053 --> 00:01:05,693 Speaker 2: Is the other page he speak. But you know, people 24 00:01:05,693 --> 00:01:07,333 Speaker 2: pick one thing and then they kind of roll with it. 25 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,493 Speaker 2: It's across the board, don't we It's what we do. 26 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 2: So I like the fact you're going to kind of 27 00:01:11,093 --> 00:01:13,973 Speaker 2: give us our password security one oh one lecture today 28 00:01:14,013 --> 00:01:16,373 Speaker 2: because this is it's not a sixty New Year's resolution, 29 00:01:16,453 --> 00:01:17,853 Speaker 2: but it is something we should all think about. I 30 00:01:17,893 --> 00:01:20,413 Speaker 2: reckon heading into the new years making sure our passings 31 00:01:20,453 --> 00:01:21,373 Speaker 2: are as tight as possible. 32 00:01:22,173 --> 00:01:24,173 Speaker 3: It is, and so I've been doing the show now 33 00:01:24,213 --> 00:01:27,093 Speaker 3: for seven years, and every year the end of the year, 34 00:01:27,173 --> 00:01:30,413 Speaker 3: I try to implore people to take some time and 35 00:01:30,533 --> 00:01:33,413 Speaker 3: change their passwords. I think it took Jack about four 36 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:35,973 Speaker 3: years to get on board, so you know you've got 37 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:39,173 Speaker 3: a few years left franch Escaut, but he does now 38 00:01:39,853 --> 00:01:43,533 Speaker 3: sing the praises of the password manager. Excuse me, and 39 00:01:43,573 --> 00:01:47,253 Speaker 3: a password manager is fantastic. Why because you don't have 40 00:01:47,373 --> 00:01:50,573 Speaker 3: to think anymore. You only have to remember one password 41 00:01:50,613 --> 00:01:53,653 Speaker 3: to get into your password manager, and then it knows 42 00:01:53,693 --> 00:01:57,413 Speaker 3: all of your passwords. And I can confidently say that 43 00:01:57,453 --> 00:02:00,693 Speaker 3: there are only sort of two passwords I actually now 44 00:02:00,813 --> 00:02:04,413 Speaker 3: know by heart. I could not tell you my banking password, 45 00:02:04,933 --> 00:02:09,013 Speaker 3: I could not tell you my email passwords. I couldn't 46 00:02:09,053 --> 00:02:11,853 Speaker 3: tell you passwords for all sorts of things, because that 47 00:02:12,053 --> 00:02:15,973 Speaker 3: all of my password manager they are very strong, they 48 00:02:15,973 --> 00:02:19,653 Speaker 3: are very unique. They are absolute random letters and characters, 49 00:02:20,093 --> 00:02:23,413 Speaker 3: and I strongly recommend a password manager. If you're not 50 00:02:23,453 --> 00:02:26,013 Speaker 3: going to go down the password password manager road, you 51 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:30,293 Speaker 3: think that's a little scary, try something called a pass phrase, 52 00:02:30,453 --> 00:02:33,973 Speaker 3: and that's where you kind of string multiple words or 53 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:36,853 Speaker 3: numbers together and you can just come up with something 54 00:02:37,053 --> 00:02:43,053 Speaker 3: completely random like green jacket, people car, you know, whatever 55 00:02:43,093 --> 00:02:45,733 Speaker 3: you want to do. And something like that, though, is 56 00:02:45,773 --> 00:02:49,453 Speaker 3: better than password one two three, okay. So, or you 57 00:02:49,493 --> 00:02:51,733 Speaker 3: know your name or your kid's names or your dog's 58 00:02:51,773 --> 00:02:53,053 Speaker 3: name or something along those lines. 59 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,853 Speaker 2: If you use a password manager and it gives you 60 00:02:55,933 --> 00:03:00,573 Speaker 2: this wonderful, unique, long, strong password, doesn't remember it for you? 61 00:03:00,653 --> 00:03:03,013 Speaker 2: Is every time you open that app on your phone 62 00:03:03,093 --> 00:03:08,173 Speaker 2: or something. You know, how you know how your passwords remember? Yes, well, 63 00:03:08,453 --> 00:03:10,533 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're supposed to remember me, but 64 00:03:11,093 --> 00:03:13,013 Speaker 2: that's what I do. So it's just there for you. 65 00:03:13,133 --> 00:03:15,133 Speaker 2: Don't have to think twice? Does it take it? It's just 66 00:03:15,173 --> 00:03:18,253 Speaker 2: the password manager, correct. 67 00:03:18,333 --> 00:03:20,613 Speaker 3: And so if you're using something like one password, which 68 00:03:20,653 --> 00:03:24,013 Speaker 3: I use, it actually sinks across all of your devices, okay, 69 00:03:24,053 --> 00:03:26,093 Speaker 3: And so when you click in the password box, it 70 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:29,093 Speaker 3: actually tries to auto fill with your username and password, 71 00:03:29,133 --> 00:03:32,653 Speaker 3: and it's it's so easy, Like it really is so easy. 72 00:03:32,693 --> 00:03:34,813 Speaker 3: It took me, now, if it took Jack, you know, 73 00:03:34,893 --> 00:03:37,973 Speaker 3: took badgering Jack four years once a year. It took 74 00:03:37,973 --> 00:03:40,973 Speaker 3: me badgering my parents for close to a decade almost 75 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:44,413 Speaker 3: weekly that they needed to get on board. And they 76 00:03:44,493 --> 00:03:47,693 Speaker 3: have now and they finally trust the password manager. And 77 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:50,293 Speaker 3: they now also don't know sort of the password to 78 00:03:50,293 --> 00:03:52,293 Speaker 3: their banking apps and things, which I think is good. 79 00:03:53,613 --> 00:03:57,413 Speaker 2: Okay, so has been it has one password or any 80 00:03:57,413 --> 00:04:01,453 Speaker 2: other password manager like temporary gone down or there's even 81 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:04,693 Speaker 2: an issue, because I could imagine that would be you know, 82 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:07,693 Speaker 2: if you don't know any of the passwords problematic. 83 00:04:07,173 --> 00:04:10,493 Speaker 3: That would be bad, That would be bad, no something. 84 00:04:10,573 --> 00:04:13,333 Speaker 3: So one password is the one I use, super reputable. 85 00:04:14,253 --> 00:04:16,853 Speaker 3: They've been great. They don't know anything about your data. 86 00:04:16,893 --> 00:04:20,293 Speaker 3: It's all encrypted. It's it's a pretty good service. Look, 87 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:22,013 Speaker 3: the one thing you have to know with your password 88 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:25,053 Speaker 3: manager is that password to get in right, And so 89 00:04:25,173 --> 00:04:27,133 Speaker 3: people are like, oh, what if I forget that, It's 90 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:29,373 Speaker 3: okay actually to write that password down. I know that 91 00:04:29,413 --> 00:04:32,453 Speaker 3: sounds crazy, but if you keep that password written down, 92 00:04:32,573 --> 00:04:35,373 Speaker 3: keep it in a safe and secure place. Someone has 93 00:04:35,413 --> 00:04:38,573 Speaker 3: to really be going to look for that password. I 94 00:04:38,613 --> 00:04:42,493 Speaker 3: would much rather have someone like have to find my 95 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:45,813 Speaker 3: password written down in a secret place than be using 96 00:04:45,813 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 3: the same passwords across all of my different digital services, 97 00:04:49,573 --> 00:04:51,533 Speaker 3: because if one person gets into one of those, they 98 00:04:51,533 --> 00:04:53,653 Speaker 3: can get into all of them, which yes, is still 99 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:55,373 Speaker 3: the case if they found your past word written down. 100 00:04:55,893 --> 00:04:57,853 Speaker 3: But if you store that away in a really safe spot, 101 00:04:57,893 --> 00:05:00,693 Speaker 3: I think you're into a much better security posture. 102 00:05:00,853 --> 00:05:02,813 Speaker 2: It's like when you see someone who's written the password 103 00:05:02,853 --> 00:05:04,413 Speaker 2: on a poster and stuck it on the computer. 104 00:05:05,453 --> 00:05:07,533 Speaker 3: Hey, look, do you know what. It's actually not that bad. 105 00:05:08,013 --> 00:05:10,213 Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy, it's not that bad if 106 00:05:10,213 --> 00:05:12,253 Speaker 3: the passwords a good password. 107 00:05:13,173 --> 00:05:15,213 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So if you don't use the password 108 00:05:15,213 --> 00:05:17,893 Speaker 2: and blow your mind now, So if you don't use 109 00:05:17,933 --> 00:05:20,293 Speaker 2: the password manager, though, you've got to make sure you've 110 00:05:20,333 --> 00:05:26,333 Speaker 2: got different passwords for different accounts. You strong passwords, put 111 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:33,213 Speaker 2: you know, take advantage of the multi factor authenticate authenticication authentication. 112 00:05:34,413 --> 00:05:36,533 Speaker 3: Can I say one thing though, here's here's my one 113 00:05:36,573 --> 00:05:39,813 Speaker 3: piece of advice. If you update, I kind of think 114 00:05:39,813 --> 00:05:42,413 Speaker 3: my passwords and tears. So if you update one part 115 00:05:42,413 --> 00:05:45,213 Speaker 3: of today, make it your banking password, because that one 116 00:05:45,293 --> 00:05:48,373 Speaker 3: really matters. And make sure your email passwords strong because 117 00:05:48,373 --> 00:05:50,733 Speaker 3: that's tied to probably everything. And then if you end 118 00:05:50,813 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 3: up using the same password on you know, you're random 119 00:05:53,093 --> 00:05:56,493 Speaker 3: Woolworth shopping and your whatever, Okay, that's maybe okay, but 120 00:05:56,613 --> 00:05:58,573 Speaker 3: don't use it the same one as your bank. Paul. 121 00:05:58,573 --> 00:06:00,373 Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to make your day. The 122 00:06:00,413 --> 00:06:03,333 Speaker 2: only two have changed this my email and my bank. 123 00:06:03,373 --> 00:06:07,653 Speaker 2: I've done that. There we go, Good Merry Christmas, Paul. 124 00:06:07,693 --> 00:06:09,693 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time today. Love you to 125 00:06:09,733 --> 00:06:11,853 Speaker 2: talk to you. Oh, there we go. Normally I get 126 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:13,693 Speaker 2: normally I do get a lecture about things like that, 127 00:06:13,733 --> 00:06:15,653 Speaker 2: but I can actually sort of cruise towards the end 128 00:06:15,693 --> 00:06:17,533 Speaker 2: of the are feeling quite good about that. 129 00:06:18,693 --> 00:06:21,813 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 130 00:06:21,893 --> 00:06:24,733 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 131 00:06:24,773 --> 00:06:26,693 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.