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Speaker 1: See price morning to you good about two part question?

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Speaker 1: How long was it and will you get any of

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Speaker 1: those moments back?

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Speaker 2: It was an hour, and I work for the TV

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Speaker 2: company that staged the debate was at a worthwhile event. Look,

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Speaker 2: I think to get them both together on the same

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Speaker 2: stage is not a bad thing to have happened during

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Speaker 2: an election debate. Election campaign. I mean, we're only a

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Speaker 2: week and a bit into it, We've got four to go.

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Speaker 2: The next debate is going to be on the ABC,

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Speaker 2: so you can imagine what way that'll go. This was

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Speaker 2: a Sky News Daily Telegraph, supposed to be an audience

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Speaker 2: of one hundred undecided voters. I was a little skeptical

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Speaker 2: about how undecided these people are as they filed out.

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Speaker 2: The result fell in in Elbow's favor forty four for him,

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Speaker 2: thirty five for Dutmaan twenty one people who bothered to

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Speaker 2: turn up as undecided voters still were unstarted when they left,

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Speaker 2: so that might say a little bit about what it

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Speaker 2: was like online. Peter Dutton said to have been the

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Speaker 2: stronger performer. Interestingly, an hour before it happened, he got

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Speaker 2: news to his father back in Queensland had a heart attack,

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Speaker 2: so he'd have to cut him some slack there, because

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that would be very bad news. We've

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Speaker 2: got eight days to go now really because and the

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Speaker 2: reason I say that is we're going to be interrupted

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Speaker 2: at the Todder on Monday by Easter and the Antac

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Speaker 2: Day long weekend. So there's eight days before Easter and

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Speaker 2: then about four or five days a clear era after that.

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Speaker 2: I think Dutton last night did himself albut did himself

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Speaker 2: no favors. I think Dutton was pretty strong and he

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Speaker 2: needed to be because, as we said on Monday, he's

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Speaker 2: been struggling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, as I understand it correctly, if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: there are two debates sort of that one plus as

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Speaker 1: you say, the ABC seven and nine wants something, Will

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Speaker 1: they do more or not?

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Speaker 2: Well, Peter Dutton says his advantage they do more because

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better performer live and unscripted than

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Speaker 2: what the Prime Minister is. So whether it goes to

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Speaker 2: one of those two commercial networks, who knows, but I imagine

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Speaker 2: that they will twist their arms. Anthony ALBENEZI, I doubt

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Speaker 2: that he'll commit to another one. He's done Sky and

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Speaker 2: the Telegraph, so that is what you would describe as

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Speaker 2: the right leaning media and the ABC's started the left

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Speaker 2: and so he will think I think that he's got

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Speaker 2: all bases covered.

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Speaker 1: Now, given our e MMP situation and given your possibility

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Speaker 1: of a hung parliament. When it comes to dealing with

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Speaker 1: minor players, are you in the stage yet where you

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Speaker 1: know what they are demanding or who they will go

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Speaker 1: with and what they want and won't get in bottom

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, from the Greens, but not from the tills.

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Speaker 2: So we have that problem that we have a group

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Speaker 2: of so called independent community independents, whereas they're really funded

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Speaker 2: by Simon Holmes of Court and climb at two hundred

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Speaker 2: and they took millions into these people, so they're not

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Speaker 2: really independent. But Adam the leader of the Greens, will

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Speaker 2: today outline what he wants if there's a home government

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Speaker 2: houn Parliament that demands the Greens to stump up and

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Speaker 2: allow them to govern. And the list is extraordinary really

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Speaker 2: And they're going to tax billionaire as they say and

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Speaker 2: rate in twenty three billion. We're not sure how they'll

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Speaker 2: do that. The company tax rate will go up to

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Speaker 2: forty percent. They want dental put on Medicare, which will

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Speaker 2: cost the country billions of dollars. They want to turn

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Speaker 2: the government into property developers to build cheap and sell

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Speaker 2: cheap houses, stop all coal and gas mining completely, All

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Speaker 2: public transport will be at fifty cents a ride. They're

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Speaker 2: going to wipe all student debt, and they'll give every

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Speaker 2: pair in eight hundred dollars for the kids to go

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Speaker 2: back to school. And they'll abolis all public school fees.

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Speaker 2: See a nice little list.

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Speaker 1: Of course they will. And if push came to shove,

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Speaker 1: would they rather be OUSI The history of the Green

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Speaker 1: Party in this country in general is they'd rather be

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Speaker 1: out of power than in power because they stand on

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Speaker 1: quote unquote principle and if you can't agree with us,

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Speaker 1: then you're wrong and therefore we don't want any part

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Speaker 1: of it. So how does it play out at your place?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much the same, except I mean, obviously with the

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Speaker 2: debate around global warming and negative being able to argue

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Speaker 2: that you're doing the right thing about the climate, they

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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't mind a seat at the table. But unfortunately

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Speaker 2: for them, there's so many other independents that even if

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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanezi needs two or three, he doesn't need the Greens.

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Speaker 1: Right where here at with the tariffs and this fallout

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Speaker 1: we've seen the last few days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the US Finance Committee met while we were

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Speaker 2: asleep last night by called Senator Mark Warner is blown

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Speaker 2: up at a bow called Jameson Greer, who's the US

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Speaker 2: Trade representative. He wanted to know why friends like Australia

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Speaker 2: and we can put in New Zealand to this list.

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Speaker 2: I imagine we're hit with a ten percent tariff. He

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Speaker 2: said that Australia is vital to the US security in

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Speaker 2: this region of the world. He talked about or Kissy said,

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Speaker 2: Australia is one of our strongest allies. We have a

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Speaker 2: free trade agreement with Australia, we don't have tariffs. We

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Speaker 2: even have a trade service with Australia. So we do

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Speaker 2: have some Republicans over there serving our story.

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Speaker 1: Good. Hey Hanson Pauline who, funnily enough, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be rude or unrude about it, but that says

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Speaker 1: she's approaching seventies, she's about to retire. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: her at seventy, so she's aged very well. She's recruited

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Speaker 1: her daughter Lee to stand in Tasmania and of Lee wins,

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Speaker 1: because she wouldn't have any of us sons anywhere near Parliament,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was good. Anyway, if she wins, that'll

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Speaker 1: be the first mother daughter combo. Is there any chance

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Speaker 1: that Lee wins? Do we have any clue or not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Possibly? I mean the Hanson name and the handsome

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Speaker 2: brand to a certain part of the Australian voting public

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Speaker 2: is very strong. Probably Hanson where you like her or don't.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed it face to face a number of times,

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Speaker 2: even went once to her house out at the back

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Speaker 2: of Brisbane and interviewed it for television. She is a

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Speaker 2: principal woman who's never varied from that first speech that

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Speaker 2: she gave back when she first entered Parliament all those

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Speaker 2: years ago, where she said, there and we were bringing

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Speaker 2: in too many migrants and it was going to cause

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Speaker 2: us trouble. And then she said that forever the daughter

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Speaker 2: could get up, Yes, she certainly could. Pauline retiring, I'll

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Speaker 2: believe that when I see it. I don't think she's

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Speaker 2: up for elections time round. That's why she's probably brought

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Speaker 2: the daughter in. And it's interesting, isn't it. There's never

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Speaker 2: been a mother daughter combat yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, nice to see you mate. Yeah, good weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up next week. Appreciate it very much. The

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