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Speaker 1: Now the government has already said no to new rules

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Speaker 1: around blind cards to keep kids safe. The coroner's findings

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Speaker 1: into the death of Tilly Canby were released today calling

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Speaker 1: for regulations around these blinds. But it's a no from

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Speaker 1: Minister Scottsimpson. Window Treatment CEO Graham Roses with US High Graham,

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Speaker 1: Good evening, what's your take on this, Our regulations necessary? No.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a better approach would be education to

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Speaker 2: the blind industry. I think it's too complex of an

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Speaker 2: issue to to try and regulate. So I think it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's back to the industry to say, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: how should we operate?

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Speaker 1: What is complex about the regulations?

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Speaker 2: The issue was operation of a product, and you can

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Speaker 2: imagine someone installing a blind in a kitchen window with

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Speaker 2: a bench in front of it, and an elderly person

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Speaker 2: trying to operate that blind from an angle having very

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Speaker 2: short cord, just as an example. There's many I could

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Speaker 2: give you, but there are some. There are many cases

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Speaker 2: unique to the situation that it is just impractical and

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Speaker 2: it would be unacceptable, you know, to the customer to

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Speaker 2: have to you know, comply with a rule.

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Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. It's purpose are you saying?

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Speaker 1: For example, if you had to have the blind cord

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Speaker 1: and at a certain height above something that a could

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Speaker 1: climb on, like a kitchen bench, it would be so

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Speaker 1: high in the kitchen that no one would be able

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Speaker 1: to actually operate that blind.

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Speaker 2: Correct, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about those those little what are they like

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Speaker 1: breakaway tassels that you can you can you can put

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Speaker 1: on it so if anybody puts weight on it'll it'll

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Speaker 1: let go and no one will die. Is that something

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Speaker 1: we should be looking at?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, they're already on the market, you know, and

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Speaker 2: so certainly from our point of view. You know, every

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Speaker 2: time we measure or install a product, we encourage the

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Speaker 2: customer to say, you know, with having cord tidies or

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Speaker 2: or cord cleats or some some device to protect, to

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Speaker 2: remove or at least mitigate to a certain extent that risk. So, look,

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Speaker 2: there are many devices already out there in the market,

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Speaker 2: and they can be purchased quite readily.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we just make those breakaway tassels just a

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Speaker 1: thing that we put in every single blind.

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Speaker 2: Yep? Look, I think in the in the perfect world,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's just not appropriate in some cases.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm all for child safety obviously, and

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Speaker 2: so you know, I mean the ultimate is put put it.

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Speaker 2: Put a motor in every blind or every curtain that

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Speaker 2: you install, and then there is no no cords. But

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Speaker 2: of course that's a that's an affordability, affordability issue, and

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Speaker 2: some you know, you know, just can't go down that track.

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Speaker 2: But I think in terms of your of your standard,

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Speaker 2: you know, a roller blind or a Roman blind, that

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Speaker 2: we can mitigate it just through common sense and policy

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Speaker 2: within the industry.

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Speaker 1: What would you so, what would your advice be to

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Speaker 1: a parent who was worried about this? Would you say,

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Speaker 1: get one of the cleats and attach it to the

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Speaker 1: side of the wall.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think the parents, you know, we've

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Speaker 2: all had you've got children, if we had young children,

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Speaker 2: not anymore, but you know that they should be walking

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Speaker 2: around the home and anything that's that's within reachable or

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Speaker 2: even a child can push a small you know, chair

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Speaker 2: up to a window and grab a cord anything like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can go on to someone something like

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Speaker 2: blind Parts dot Co dot Nz and you'll be able

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Speaker 2: to purchase a small cleat or or or a cord

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Speaker 2: lock to instore or they can cut the cut the

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Speaker 2: cord shorter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, this is a question, a personal question on

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Speaker 1: the Roman blinds. I mean, obviously, with the Roman blinds,

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Speaker 1: you've got the actual like pulling cord, which is a

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Speaker 1: risk if you don't, you know, wrap it up somewhere

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Speaker 1: where they can't get a hold of it. But what

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Speaker 1: about all the like the spider web of blind of

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Speaker 1: the little you know behind the Roman blind?

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Speaker 2: Is that a risky? It is a risk absolutely?

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Speaker 1: What do you do with that?

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Speaker 2: Well, for a start, you know, if you had young children,

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Speaker 2: I would be I would be avoiding them or put

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Speaker 2: a motor on on on the Roman blind. And so

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Speaker 2: there are no cords, Lord.

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Speaker 1: Is going to be It's going to be very expensive.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it? It is? It is so the cords on

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Speaker 2: the back of a Roman blind is very very common.

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Speaker 2: It's been around for years and years and years. But

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Speaker 2: I know that's that's a that's a you know, that's

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Speaker 2: a concern to if you've got young children, right, I'm ripping.

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Speaker 1: Them out right, ripping them out? Thank you? Which is

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Speaker 1: the brand nine Villa. I thought it out listen, mat

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Speaker 1: thank you as always really appreciate your take on that.

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Speaker 1: As Graham Rose, CEO of Window Treatments New Zealand. For

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