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Speaker 2: Saturday Mornings with Jack.

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Speaker 3: US Talk SAIDB, good morning, Welcome to news talg eDV

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Speaker 3: Jack Tame with you through to twelve o'clock midday today.

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Speaker 3: It was as though Marny knew sure he might not

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Speaker 3: yet be eight weeks old, but last night, for the

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Speaker 3: first time, he suited up in his Crusaders onesie eighty

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Speaker 3: minutes later with just thirteen players on the pitch trying

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Speaker 3: to repel the Hurricanes attack from who would the drawer inspiration?

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Speaker 3: It's like Marny new and here we are Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: waking up top of the table.

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Speaker 4: Ain't no thing.

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Speaker 3: Don't you worry about that. We'll talk over Rugby this hour.

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Speaker 3: That surprise result last night, the Chiefs going down to

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Speaker 3: the Tars, plus of course Peter Berling in the surprise

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Speaker 3: split with the team New Zealand, as well as that,

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Speaker 3: we're talking the best of New Zealand food before ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock lambloin chops, kad or salmon, some top tips. I'm

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Speaker 3: absolutely nailing it if you've got people around for dinner

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Speaker 3: this weekend, right now though it is eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: And in the end it was kind of an anti climax.

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Speaker 3: After almost eighteen months of debate, anger, obfuscation, Hekoy and

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Speaker 3: Hukker and hundreds of thousands of submissions, the Treaty Principal's

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Speaker 3: Bill was voted down in fairly emphatic style. I suspect

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Speaker 3: the majority of New Zealanders are just so over it.

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Speaker 3: Looking back, I would say that David Seymour in act

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Speaker 3: largely got what they wanted to. Party Mardi were perhaps

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Speaker 3: even greater political beneficiaries, and the whole saga will endure

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Speaker 3: as a bit of a stain on Christopher Luxon's tenure

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Speaker 3: as Prime Minister. It was telling that once again, just

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Speaker 3: as for the first reading, this week's vote was scheduled

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Speaker 3: for a time when the PM wasn't in the House.

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Speaker 3: I just think being there and suffering through it would

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Speaker 3: have perhaps shown greater leadership. I watched the speeches in

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Speaker 3: Parliament and I thought David Seymour was right in his observation.

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Speaker 3: Almost none actually considered the substance of the government's defined

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Speaker 3: treaty principles. Like most of the debate outside of Parliament,

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Speaker 3: they were all emotion at times. I think what was

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Speaker 3: supposed to be a constitutional debate was boiled down to

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Speaker 3: a pretty basic and unedifying level pro Mardi versus anti Maudi. Personally,

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Speaker 3: I look, I tried to engage with the detail of

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Speaker 3: the bill and good faith I always do. I actually

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Speaker 3: think that one of the most underrated qualities in people

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Speaker 3: think critically or even to change your mind. It's weird.

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Speaker 3: It seems so simple and yet so hard for so

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Speaker 3: many people. It's a curiously strange thing these days, a

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Speaker 3: rare thing to come across someone who doesn't instantly default

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Speaker 3: to their team or their side. It seemed to me, though,

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Speaker 3: that there was a fundamental problem with the proposed treaty principles,

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Speaker 3: and that was that they didn't accurately reflect what the

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Speaker 3: treaty actually says. The threet specifically guarantees Mardi ten or

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Speaker 3: ungeta tongue it has, if you like, like a Maldi

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Speaker 3: specific carve out that did not appear in acts interpretation.

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Speaker 3: In my view, that absence was just absolutely critical. Many

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Speaker 3: to the debate. I can't speak for the party's motivations,

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Speaker 3: but I do think the most honest approach would have

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Speaker 3: been to define the principles by what is clearly said

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Speaker 3: in the treaty, rather than what anyone thinks should be

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Speaker 3: to my final point. The Treaty is clearly an imperfect document.

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Speaker 3: The English and Mardi versions say different things, are open

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Speaker 3: to different interpretations. There is no returning New Zealand to

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Speaker 3: So I reckon David Cmore's broader desire about more purposefully

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Speaker 3: defining the treaty's application in the treaty's meaning and modern

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Speaker 3: of more consideration. Like, for example, I just wonder if

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Speaker 3: two hundred years from its signing, New Zealand should aspire

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Speaker 3: towards developing some sort of a written constitution underpinned by

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Speaker 3: the Treaty that gives it better and clearer effect in

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Speaker 3: I think that was its purpose, and if we're honest,

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Speaker 3: this debate has probably had the opposite effect. But I

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Speaker 3: we can collectively find a way to constructively have these

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Speaker 3: you're thinking. Saturday morning Constitutional debate on Newstalk z'd be

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Speaker 3: get excited. Don't worry. Don't worry. We're not going to

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Speaker 3: get too deep on the constitutional front this morning. We

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Speaker 3: are talking films before ten o'clock and then our feature

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Speaker 3: Kevin Milon's gonna kick us off for our Saturday together.

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Speaker 3: It's thirteen minutes past nine. It's Saturday Morning, I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a little bit of way to kick off

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Speaker 2: your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and beep

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Speaker 3: He'd be, Ah, some very thoughtful feedback coming in. I'm

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Speaker 3: not surprised by that, Jack. You won't mup it. Ah,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that. Jack. I almost fell over into

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Speaker 3: my pool while sipping my cocktail listening to you this morning,

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Speaker 3: says Muz. You agree with David Seymour. Yeah, I often

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Speaker 3: agree with Tavis. I agree with Davison one some things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, not everything. I don't think any of

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Speaker 3: us agree with anyone and everything do we? Ninety two

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Speaker 3: address If you are going to flick us of text,

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Speaker 3: don't forget the standard text costs to play. Kevin Milne

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Speaker 3: is with us this morning, licking his wounds after that

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Speaker 3: incredible game of Super Rugby last night. Kevin, I reckon

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Speaker 3: for me, and look, obviously I've got a little bit

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Speaker 3: of the season. That last ten minutes of the Cane

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Speaker 4: Yes, I thought you would start off with a sort

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Speaker 5: Scottish look that Scottish coach needs to tell the Hurricanes

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Speaker 5: that the game no longer starts at seven point thirty five.

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Speaker 5: And although they did actually triumph in the first few minutes,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, thank goodness forgot the best half back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do. He played very well. But yeah, it

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Speaker 3: sporto about those matches last night, that surprise result for

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs in a couple of minutes, Kevin, But you

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Speaker 3: have been focused on much more serious things this week,

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Speaker 3: while while the world's been enveloped in tariff turmoil. We've

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Speaker 3: had the Treaty Principles Bill before the House.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about the new Air New Zealand uniforms.

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Speaker 5: Yes, in New Zealand's revealed its new uniform.

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Speaker 4: It looks pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I reckon, a little conservative, perhaps formal, but pretty good

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Speaker 5: good on the Kiwi designer in London, Amelia Wixted, I

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Speaker 5: think New Zealanders have always taken an almost passionate interest

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Speaker 5: in their New Zealand's uniform over the years, as if

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Speaker 5: it represents us personally, which to an extent it does.

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Speaker 5: It's the new design doesn't meet our approval. There's not

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Speaker 5: Of course, there will never be a more magnificent day

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Speaker 5: lime green lollipop uniforms miniskirts designed by Mary Quan. I

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Speaker 5: would say that because neither Mary nor I had to

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Speaker 5: to do. As emeliaic Said puts it, she hopes any

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Speaker 5: Zellane staff will wear the uniform as opposed to the

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Speaker 5: uniform wearing them. What surprises me, though, is we're still

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Speaker 5: dressing the captains and the first officers as though they

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Speaker 5: Our airlines got underwegh at war time. I think back

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Speaker 5: then even the women were dressed like soldiers. But isn't

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Speaker 5: it time those flying the planes, those in charge of

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Speaker 5: sunning in their peaked cap with insignia and double breasted

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Speaker 5: military styled jackets with silver buttons, but shouldn't they be

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Speaker 5: pretty good leather flying jackets like they act.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what you'd make a terrific aircraft captain.

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Speaker 5: I bet you higher out and the aircraft captain suit

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Speaker 3: For me, the thing that always defines the pilot look

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Speaker 3: of those for whatever reason it is, that's a Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a bit of a throwback, the old double

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Speaker 3: breasted thing. I I thought it looked pretty sharp, but.

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Speaker 5: It looks it looks terrific, But I just wonder whether

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Speaker 3: Yeah, My question is like how comfortable, you know, is

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Speaker 3: it get creased? Creased if you sleep in it? Can

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Speaker 3: you how does it absorb your sweet and all that

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Speaker 5: And I really I think those lovely frying jackets on

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Speaker 5: the Second World War that the Americans used to ply

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Speaker 5: their plans and were terrific and they look great too. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but you still have an answered my question is that

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Speaker 5: your go to dress up?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is? Yeah, no, I I

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I've worn one before a couple of times before.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think what my go to dress

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Speaker 3: up would be. See, I only dress up. I only

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Speaker 3: try and make the outfit myself. I sort of think

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Speaker 3: that's in the spirit of a dress up don't you

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Speaker 3: think is it just going to the to the costume shop,

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Speaker 3: like try and try and knock up something yourself, you know,

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Speaker 3: or swing down to look sharp and get something cheap

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Speaker 3: to add to it.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: I always think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Jack.

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Speaker 5: But I think you looked bloody brilliant in mine.

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Speaker 6: You would wear one to work?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I finally give it more respect. Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: I wonder the double breast that is coming back, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: as well. Jack, seriously, you thought our Prime minister should

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Speaker 1: Nine, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 3: Well done Jack Tam for finally having something constructive to

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Speaker 4: Yes, normal transmissions resumed, hasn't it Jack.

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Speaker 3: It is pretty amazing given where they were twelve months ago, yep.

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Speaker 8: And they were losing these sorts of games last year.

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Speaker 4: Peter Berling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, So I mean I know it's all this coming.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it? What can you read between.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't worry, I will. I think a few things.

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Speaker 8: I think there is a concern going around that there

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Speaker 8: I don't think that Team mens E were willing to

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Speaker 4: He can't sail.

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Speaker 8: I think it comes down to lack of a perceived

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Speaker 4: That's Grand Dalton's. They were Grand Dalton's words yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I'd be pleasantly surprised of blea chook stays as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, eighth in practice one twelve practice two, he's ahead

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Speaker 2: So a lot.

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Speaker 8: Happening this week in Jet You've got the rugby, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big weekend. It's more thank you sir, catch you soon.

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Speaker 3: That's Esporto Andrew sevil Jack. The Treaty principles, issue number

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Speaker 3: us a message, We've got your film pick for this

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Speaker 3: So a minecraft movie for anyone who thinks that people

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Speaker 3: It's not necessarily for all of us, but it has

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, it's awesome, and it's really great. I mean

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Speaker 10: other wards at the beginning of the year, going hey,

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Speaker 10: we make movies for the big screen. It is this

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Speaker 10: experience we've had. But we've also seen it with Tina,

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Speaker 10: you know, until Line Straft came along. And I'm still

435
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Speaker 10: talking to people who say to me, I went to

436
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Speaker 10: the movie. I went to the cinema and saw it,

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Speaker 10: and I laughed with everybody else, and I cried with

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Speaker 10: everybody else. And I get it. It's this communal we're

439
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Speaker 10: all in it together. You get something, it goes to

440
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Speaker 10: a whole other level when you share it. With other people,

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Speaker 10: regardless of whether you know them or not. And that's

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Speaker 10: the wonderful thing about seeing a movie in a cinema.

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Speaker 3: Oh so good. All right, we have a couple of

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Speaker 3: options this week. Only one of them is showing in cinema,

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Speaker 3: so let's start off with the one that is showing

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Speaker 3: at home this morning. Let's have a listen to G twenty.

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Speaker 2: Madam President, we have a situation. I implore all world

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Speaker 2: leaders to join me at the G twenty summit, the.

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Speaker 1: Twenty most powerful world leaders together going dark in three

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Speaker 1: two Why.

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Speaker 3: Babe, Bam Bam, starring Viola Davis and of course Kee

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Speaker 3: We star Anthonista tell us about G twenty.

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Speaker 10: So Viola Davis, who has won an Oscar, a Tony

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Speaker 10: and Emmy, Abafta, a Golden Globe, and a Grammy, would

455
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Speaker 10: probably hate me making this comparison. But she's almost becoming

456
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Speaker 10: the female Liam Nixon of action films. So she's fifteen,

457
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Speaker 10: she's fifty nine years old, and she is totally kicking

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Speaker 10: bat in this action for G twenty, screening on Prime Video.

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Speaker 10: And you may remember the last film that she kind

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Speaker 10: of played the lead in was The Woman King, which

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Speaker 10: also another very sort of full on.

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Speaker 11: Action flick as well.

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Speaker 10: She plays President Sutton, the President of the United States.

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Speaker 10: She also happens to be a former soldier. She uses

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Speaker 10: her brains and her brawn to overcome a terrorist attack

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Speaker 10: on a G twenty summit.

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Speaker 9: Leading the attack is the Boys.

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Speaker 10: Baddie Kiwi actor Anthony Starr, and he plans to use

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Speaker 10: deep fakes to convince the world that all these leaders

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Speaker 10: at the G twenty are going to take control of

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Speaker 10: some other countries finances and everybody must into crypto, and

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Speaker 10: he's trying to collapse kind of the world financial order.

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Speaker 10: To be honest with you, this is probably you know what.

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Speaker 10: You just kind of let the premise go. It's all

475
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Speaker 10: quite lovely and ridiculous. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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Speaker 10: It's all far fetched, but it's really fun watching Davis

477
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Speaker 10: and Stargo head to head. As always, Anthony Starr is

478
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Speaker 10: completely committed to his character. He manages to bring a

479
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Speaker 10: rain of emotions to a pretty simple villain role. He

480
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Speaker 10: really is fabulous. And Davis is much like she was

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Speaker 10: in previous films we've seeing her. She is very good

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Speaker 10: at being you know, she has a commanding presence.

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Speaker 12: She convinces us.

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Speaker 10: She's a leader, but she's also a very good physical adversary.

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Speaker 9: And these two.

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Speaker 10: Work really well together, and I think it's almost a

487
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Speaker 10: little bit of a slight waste of talent. There's a

488
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Speaker 10: couple of scenes where they kind of spar with each

489
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Speaker 10: other with words as opposed to action, and they're great together.

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Speaker 10: And I think they're both pretty intelligent actors and could

491
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Speaker 10: have handled a little bit more of that. But the

492
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Speaker 10: film is like, Hey, we're going to keep this pacy,

493
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Speaker 10: We're going to keep this all about the action. We're

494
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Speaker 10: going to keep this moving along. So they haven't really

495
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Speaker 10: focused a huge amount on the script. So it's a

496
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Speaker 10: bit of a shame because I think the two of

497
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Speaker 10: them could have really sparked this, you know, sparked.

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Speaker 9: Up even further.

499
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Speaker 10: And there's some quite fun, nice sort of side performances here.

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Speaker 10: Douglas Hodge plays a British PM who's sort of a

501
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Speaker 10: bit bumbling and quite funny, and there's a couple of

502
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Speaker 10: nice sort of side performances and things. Look this Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 10: If you're having some couch time and you're looking for

504
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Speaker 10: a little bit of escapism, then you might want to

505
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Speaker 10: try g twenty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean it sounds a little bit ridiculous

507
00:27:16,693 --> 00:27:20,093
Speaker 3: before asked it is a little bit ridiculous. Yeah, yeah,

508
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Speaker 3: a little bit of escapism on a Sunday afternoon. Now

509
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Speaker 3: we're into that, Francisca. That's all right. We're not too

510
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Speaker 3: snobby if you are feeling like something a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: Showing in cinemas at the moment is a film called Crossing.

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Speaker 10: And this is a beautiful piece of world cinema. It's

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Speaker 10: a Georgian Turkish drama. It's by Levane Unkin, who directed

514
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Speaker 10: And Then We Danced, which maybe some people might be

515
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Speaker 10: familiar with. It follows a Georgian woman. She is a

516
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Speaker 10: retired teacher. She is a single, kind of slightly unhappy,

517
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Speaker 10: quite grumpy, slightly stern woman, and she has made a promise,

518
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Speaker 10: She made a promise to her dying sister that she

519
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Speaker 10: would find her estranged trans niece. And she goes off

520
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Speaker 10: on this journey and she gets someone says to her

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Speaker 10: that Tecla has moved to Istanbul, and so she heads

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Speaker 10: off on this journey to Istanbul. She's accompanied by a

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Speaker 10: young man who is also a little bit lost in life,

524
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Speaker 10: but claims to have an address for tecler and the

525
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Speaker 10: two of them head off to Istanbul. They don't have

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Speaker 10: a huge amount of money. They kind of find themselves

527
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Speaker 10: in the trans community and they kind of meet some

528
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Speaker 10: very welcoming people who try and help them along the way.

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Speaker 10: And at the same time we're also introduced to this

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Speaker 10: trans woman who is a lawyer who works within this

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Speaker 10: community as well, and we almost led to believe. The

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Speaker 10: director almost says this really that maybe this is Tecla,

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Speaker 10: but it's not.

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Speaker 9: But they come.

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Speaker 10: Together and help each other along the way. But this

536
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Speaker 10: obviously the film is called Crossing. It is a film

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Speaker 10: about crossings and transitions, but more mental and emotional than

538
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Speaker 10: physical ones. This is a story about, you know, a

539
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Speaker 10: woman having a change of heart. And also I think

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Speaker 10: in this film there's the realization that maybe this young woman, Tecla,

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Speaker 10: doesn't need to be found, doesn't need to be saved.

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Speaker 10: It's more about this retired teacher doing what she needs

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Speaker 10: to do for herself and to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 10: find some redemption and things there. So look, it's a

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Speaker 10: beautiful moving film, superbly acted. And what I love about

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Speaker 10: this film is that they don't wrap everything up in

547
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Speaker 10: a nice both for you, because life is messy, Jack,

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Speaker 10: and this film kind of celebrates that.

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Speaker 3: And what we love about you is that you bring

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Speaker 3: us a range of films.

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Speaker 12: Fenchesca something for everybody.

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Speaker 3: G twenty two Crossing, Yeah, very good, a George and

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Speaker 3: Turkish crossover. Hey, thank you so much for that. Really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. We're going to make sure both of those

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Speaker 3: films all the details are where you can see them,

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Speaker 3: are up and available on the news talk z'd be website.

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Speaker 3: So G twenty is screening on Prime Video. Crossing is

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Speaker 3: in select cinemas now. It's sixteen to ten.

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpewre dot co dot inst for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements US Talk Sen.

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Speaker 3: We have had so many text and emails this's our

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna read them more. I'm not gonna have time, sorry,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna read the one that I like.

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Speaker 3: Like this one, Jack. I thought it was a very

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Speaker 3: considered piece that you shared with us this morning. Nice

567
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Speaker 3: to take the emotion out of the debate for a change.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Adam. We'll just tie things up

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Speaker 3: right there, shall we. Right now it is fourteen minutes

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Speaker 3: to ten and cook. Nicki Wex's here in the kitchen

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Speaker 3: with us this morning, Kelder Niki. He cured up. The

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Speaker 3: Outstanding Food Producer Awards were presented on Thursday of this week, right,

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Speaker 3: so you've brought to us for anyone who hasn't seen

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Speaker 3: the results, You've brought a couple of winners that we're

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Speaker 3: going to share this morning. So we'll start off with

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Speaker 3: the savory dishes or savory produce that came out on

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Speaker 3: top on Thursday night. Let's start off with the Conscious

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Speaker 3: Valley lamb.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, look what I love about the Outstanding Food Producers

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Speaker 13: Awards is they do really attract them, you know, the

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Speaker 13: top of the best of the best of the ingredients

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Speaker 13: and food being juiced in New Zealand, I think.

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Speaker 9: And it's a huge.

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Speaker 13: Array from condiments to drinks, to snacks, to oils, to butters,

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Speaker 13: to gelato, to meats, et cetera, et cetera, to lettuces,

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Speaker 13: all of that.

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Speaker 9: But it was really interesting this year that.

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Speaker 13: The you know, two of the top awards got taken

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Speaker 13: out by farmers, by meat suppliers, and one of them, indeed,

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Speaker 13: was that Conscious Valley thick cut loin shops. I mean, honestly, Jack,

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Speaker 13: I wasn't judging that particular category, but I was sitting

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Speaker 13: down the end of the table a month or two

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Speaker 13: ago when we judged those, and the lovely judges that

595
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Speaker 13: were judging it just we heard them groaning and then

596
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Speaker 13: they said, here, you guys, you've got to try this,

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Speaker 13: and oh they were just so beautiful. So Conscious Valley

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Speaker 13: is just outside of Wellington. A couple of young farmers

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Speaker 13: there and they're you know, their meat is just top not.

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Speaker 13: You can't get it widely, which I know is going

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Speaker 13: to irritate our listeners, but if you're in the Wellington

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Speaker 13: area you can so have a lot out for that

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Speaker 13: conscious fairly thick cut loin.

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Speaker 9: Chops and the other.

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Speaker 13: The Supreme Award winner this year was from the Hastings

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Speaker 13: or Hawks Bay Martangi Martangi thirty to forty five day

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Speaker 13: dry aged sir lloyin steak cutlets and honestly, and you know,

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Speaker 13: the description here was that it cuts like butter. It

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Speaker 13: was tender, juicy, melt in the mouth mouth.

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Speaker 9: Now, these are not cheap meats.

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Speaker 13: I want to really warn people that when you go

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Speaker 13: online to order these for yourself, as you can with

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Speaker 13: the MARTINANGI. You know, you might go, oh, it's outrageous,

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Speaker 13: but these are beautiful kits of meat that have been

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Speaker 13: looked after from you know, paddic to plate.

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Speaker 9: They're not churning these out in great quantity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the might be a little special occasion option too, right.

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Speaker 13: Have very special occasion, you know, maybe, and maybe as

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Speaker 13: meat begins to be a bit of a special occasion,

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Speaker 13: you know, dinner sort of thing, and so don't book

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Speaker 13: at the price, shout yourself and then treat it really well.

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Speaker 13: So look, if I had either one of these, they

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Speaker 13: are thick cuts. So I'm going to recommend that you

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Speaker 13: do as little as possible to them, Jack, because this

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Speaker 13: is the thing with quality, outstanding ingredients.

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Speaker 9: When you've got those, you barely have to do.

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Speaker 3: Anything to let the ingredients to the talking.

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Speaker 9: Let the ingredients do the talking.

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Speaker 13: You just have to get out of the way and

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Speaker 13: just let it do its thing. Because you cannot make

631
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Speaker 13: good food out of bad ingredients. But unfortunately, you can

632
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Speaker 13: certainly make bad food out of good ingredients if you

633
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Speaker 13: do the wrong thing. So I would do a lovely

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Speaker 13: salt on either side of both of these. I would

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Speaker 13: bring both cuts to room temperature because they're thick cuts.

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Speaker 13: So often people have taken them straight from the fridge

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Speaker 13: and then into the pan. That doesn't really work because

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Speaker 13: the inside is going to be really quite cool and

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Speaker 13: it's going to take a lot longer, and the outside

640
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Speaker 13: is going to toughen up when you.

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Speaker 9: Pan fry them.

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Speaker 13: I would pan fry these two cuts, or maybe with

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Speaker 13: the lamb chops, I would throw them in a hot

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Speaker 13: oven after I've browned them off for sort of ten

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Speaker 13: twenty minutes something like that, depending on how you like it.

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Speaker 13: Always use the sort of press I just pressed the meat.

647
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Speaker 13: You know what it feels like raw, You know what

648
00:34:09,613 --> 00:34:11,773
Speaker 13: it feels like when it's hard leather, you know, And

649
00:34:11,893 --> 00:34:14,413
Speaker 13: engage it in between how soft do you want it?

650
00:34:14,453 --> 00:34:16,973
Speaker 13: Which will indicate how rare it is in the middle,

651
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Speaker 13: So light sorting. I always pepper afterwards. I don't pepper

652
00:34:20,653 --> 00:34:23,373
Speaker 13: at the time before cooking, because I think pepper has

653
00:34:23,413 --> 00:34:26,573
Speaker 13: a tendency to burn jack, you know, so I always

654
00:34:26,613 --> 00:34:30,293
Speaker 13: do the plumber pepper later. Maybe with that beef cut,

655
00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:32,933
Speaker 13: maybe you might want to add another little winner, which

656
00:34:32,973 --> 00:34:38,693
Speaker 13: was Mandy's horsepatish sauce. Maybe imagine those two Oh my godness,

657
00:34:38,733 --> 00:34:41,613
Speaker 13: my mouth is actually watering as I go with the lamb.

658
00:34:41,693 --> 00:34:44,173
Speaker 9: I just love a lamb chop, just with pure salt

659
00:34:44,213 --> 00:34:44,533
Speaker 9: on it.

660
00:34:44,733 --> 00:34:46,573
Speaker 13: I like it with a little pile of spinach which

661
00:34:46,573 --> 00:34:49,973
Speaker 13: goes beautifully with it. Maybe a little bit of buttered potato.

662
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Speaker 9: Or something like that.

663
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Speaker 13: So those were our two really big meat winners, and

664
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Speaker 13: they were absolutely exceptional.

665
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Speaker 9: Have we got time to talk about chop.

666
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Speaker 14: Pops the end of the space?

667
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you've just answered that yourself. Oh no,

668
00:35:05,053 --> 00:35:08,693
Speaker 3: come on, Nicky, don't disappear on now? Are you there?

669
00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:12,173
Speaker 3: Are you there? Niki? Have we lost you? Oh no,

670
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what what a tease? Look, I'm gonna

671
00:35:16,413 --> 00:35:17,693
Speaker 3: go in a break right now. We'll hope that we

672
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Speaker 3: can get Nicki on the phone. In thirty seconds. You'll

673
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,453
Speaker 3: be back with let's tell us about the winning chocolate.

674
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

675
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676
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677
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Speaker 3: It'd be Nicki. Wexs back, We tracked it down. We

678
00:35:33,013 --> 00:35:36,573
Speaker 3: got on the phone because sometimes the internet collapses. Thank goodness, Nikki,

679
00:35:36,613 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 3: you can't leave us hanging like that.

680
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Speaker 15: I can't that.

681
00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:41,413
Speaker 16: I wondered if it was most alive and then it's

682
00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:45,013
Speaker 16: sort of drowns by phone anyway, very quickly. Here's two

683
00:35:45,093 --> 00:35:46,893
Speaker 16: chocolates that people need to look out for. They were

684
00:35:46,933 --> 00:35:50,733
Speaker 16: both gold medal winners. One is Lucid Chocolateia. That's l

685
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Speaker 16: Ucid Young Chocolates maker or Chocola Tia.

686
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Speaker 14: John D.

687
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Speaker 16: Tantam his fifty two percent sourdough, brown butter and sea salt.

688
00:36:02,053 --> 00:36:04,533
Speaker 16: It may be sold out already online.

689
00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:04,813
Speaker 9: But have a look.

690
00:36:04,853 --> 00:36:07,653
Speaker 16: He's got another sourdough brown and sea salt one. They're

691
00:36:07,853 --> 00:36:09,133
Speaker 16: absolutely unhamable.

692
00:36:09,613 --> 00:36:12,013
Speaker 3: Sorry, sour dough, sour.

693
00:36:11,813 --> 00:36:16,213
Speaker 16: Dough, sour dough. He has slaveored slavored it with sour dough,

694
00:36:16,573 --> 00:36:20,253
Speaker 16: brown butter and sea salt. Unbit believable. And then the

695
00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:21,893
Speaker 16: other one that I want to draw your attention to

696
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Speaker 16: because we've got Easter coming up, is another one was

697
00:36:24,693 --> 00:36:28,733
Speaker 16: it was in the Bonbonds, another chocolate category. Mind your temper,

698
00:36:29,053 --> 00:36:31,413
Speaker 16: that's the name of the company. That's clever, isn't it

699
00:36:31,413 --> 00:36:35,973
Speaker 16: for a chopin lover spiced orange hot cross buns bonbon

700
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Speaker 16: and these believe it or not, do not let it

701
00:36:39,293 --> 00:36:41,773
Speaker 16: put you off in any shape or form, are vegan,

702
00:36:42,093 --> 00:36:44,253
Speaker 16: they are plant based, and they took out of Gold

703
00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:48,213
Speaker 16: for being utterly delicious, and they're available online to order

704
00:36:48,253 --> 00:36:50,733
Speaker 16: as well, and I think that those would make the

705
00:36:50,813 --> 00:36:54,533
Speaker 16: perfect Easter gift, don't you think? Get some for your wife?

706
00:36:54,653 --> 00:36:54,973
Speaker 17: Ah?

707
00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:59,453
Speaker 16: Incredible, you have so beautiful both of these chocolates, and

708
00:36:59,453 --> 00:37:04,093
Speaker 16: then particularly Bonbonds. They're those little little hills. They always

709
00:37:04,093 --> 00:37:08,053
Speaker 16: got that crisp outside shell and something exciting waiting for

710
00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:08,733
Speaker 16: you inside.

711
00:37:08,813 --> 00:37:11,293
Speaker 3: So both of those, there's a real sort of trend

712
00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:14,333
Speaker 3: at the moment, isn't there and having and having kind

713
00:37:14,373 --> 00:37:18,413
Speaker 3: of breedy flavors to fancy chocolates. Because it was the Hogarth,

714
00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:23,413
Speaker 3: the buttered toast, Yeah, that was very popular.

715
00:37:23,493 --> 00:37:25,853
Speaker 16: Yeah we saw we saw it come through with ice

716
00:37:25,893 --> 00:37:28,213
Speaker 16: cream a couple of years ago. So it was sort

717
00:37:28,253 --> 00:37:31,013
Speaker 16: of sour dough and brown butter ice cream, which is

718
00:37:31,053 --> 00:37:34,853
Speaker 16: absolutely beautiful and actually a very very old technique. But yes,

719
00:37:34,893 --> 00:37:36,493
Speaker 16: we're seeing it in the chocolates now and I can

720
00:37:36,693 --> 00:37:40,173
Speaker 16: really really recommend both of those. They're absolutely beautiful. So

721
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Speaker 16: there you go. There's our outstanding winners from the Food

722
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Speaker 16: Producers Awards this year.

723
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Speaker 3: Fantastic, Thank you so much. I'm just so related on

724
00:37:48,693 --> 00:37:50,493
Speaker 3: behalf of everyone that we managed to track you down

725
00:37:50,533 --> 00:37:53,333
Speaker 3: again and that you sillive aheadn't indeed drowned out your microphone.

726
00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:57,973
Speaker 3: You catch it soon. That is in the kitchen for

727
00:37:58,053 --> 00:37:59,893
Speaker 3: us as years every Saturday morning, we're going to make

728
00:37:59,893 --> 00:38:03,053
Speaker 3: sure that all of those items she mentioned the winners

729
00:38:03,053 --> 00:38:05,933
Speaker 3: from the Outstanding Food Producer Awards this week are up

730
00:38:05,933 --> 00:38:08,813
Speaker 3: and a vail on the news talk ZEDB website. It's

731
00:38:08,813 --> 00:38:11,013
Speaker 3: gonna be one of those things though, right you're gonna

732
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 3: go to the supermarket or some of those specialty stores

733
00:38:13,173 --> 00:38:16,373
Speaker 3: and of course everything's gonna be sold out, really frustrating.

734
00:38:16,493 --> 00:38:18,293
Speaker 3: The key is to wait like two weeks and then

735
00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:23,693
Speaker 3: go after ten o'clock a feature interview Ozzie Muzo's Jungle Giants.

736
00:38:23,893 --> 00:38:29,933
Speaker 3: They write really like poppy, earwormy, dancey, boppy kind of songs.

737
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Speaker 3: They're coming to New Zealand, so they're gonna be tell

738
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Speaker 3: you joining us right after the ten o'clock news as

739
00:38:33,773 --> 00:38:35,533
Speaker 3: well as that. If you're looking forward to a weekend

740
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Speaker 3: on the couch, just veging out this fantastic new show,

741
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Speaker 3: we're going to tell you about now screen time segment

742
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Speaker 3: called North of North. It's a comedy set amongst an

743
00:38:45,133 --> 00:38:48,613
Speaker 3: Inuit community in the Arctic, and would you believe it

744
00:38:48,653 --> 00:38:50,453
Speaker 3: actually has a couple of key we actors. So I'm

745
00:38:50,493 --> 00:38:52,653
Speaker 3: going to tell you about that shortly. News is next,

746
00:38:52,653 --> 00:38:55,813
Speaker 3: though it's almost ten o'clock. It is Saturday morning. I'm jactayed.

747
00:38:55,853 --> 00:38:57,133
Speaker 3: This is Newstalk ZEDB.

748
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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

749
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Speaker 17: The how do the Weed? How be heid.

752
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Speaker 3: More in the New Zealand You were Jack Taime. Over

753
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Speaker 3: a decade of experience under their belts has seen Australian

754
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Speaker 3: pop dance royalty the Jungle Giants grow from simple lovers

755
00:39:42,533 --> 00:39:45,653
Speaker 3: of music to fully fledged artists on the world stage.

756
00:39:46,013 --> 00:39:49,333
Speaker 3: They had a bananas year last year, a massive year

757
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Speaker 3: playing shows, headlining festivals from Hemisphere to Hemisphere, and now

758
00:39:52,493 --> 00:39:55,293
Speaker 3: they are bringing their positive energy to New Zealand with

759
00:39:55,373 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 3: shows in Wellington and Auckland. Jungle Giants frontman Sam Hales

760
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:03,373
Speaker 3: as with us this morning. Calder good morning, yeah, very

761
00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:05,613
Speaker 3: very good. Thank you man. You nailed the kyoda. Well

762
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Speaker 3: done that. There's I've oken like a man who knows

763
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Speaker 3: his audience. But how how do you find that your

764
00:40:13,013 --> 00:40:15,813
Speaker 3: reception here in New Zealand, how do you distinguish it

765
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Speaker 3: from being home?

766
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Speaker 18: I mean it's really nice, Like every time we come

767
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Speaker 18: to New Zealand, we've just been noticing like the fan

768
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Speaker 18: base growing and we noticed like the same people coming

769
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Speaker 18: to every show, which is actually really lovely I think.

770
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Speaker 18: I mean, obviously in New Zealand people love music. You

771
00:40:36,133 --> 00:40:38,133
Speaker 18: can tell like culture, It's really awesome. I've got a

772
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Speaker 18: couple of Manti friends that live for their music, and

773
00:40:41,173 --> 00:40:43,693
Speaker 18: you can really tell when you go people like remember

774
00:40:43,733 --> 00:40:45,533
Speaker 18: every lyric, everyone's always dancing.

775
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Speaker 12: It's always a great reception.

776
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Speaker 18: So for us, every time we get to New Zealand

777
00:40:49,173 --> 00:40:50,533
Speaker 18: is an actual huge pleasure.

778
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have had a pretty significant eighteen months or so.

779
00:40:55,613 --> 00:40:57,693
Speaker 3: Those fans have been waiting a wee while for new

780
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Speaker 3: music and you have just released something which I know

781
00:41:00,213 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 3: everyone has delighted about. But how are you physically because

782
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:07,373
Speaker 3: you had a pretty rough experience on the jet ski right.

783
00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:12,053
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well that was like was that

784
00:41:12,173 --> 00:41:14,013
Speaker 18: like a year and a bit ago now? But yeah,

785
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Speaker 18: I was shooting a film clip with some friends for

786
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Speaker 18: a Bank of Confidence man and my job for the

787
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Speaker 18: day was to ride a jet ski wearing like a

788
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Speaker 18: hat and like overalls and boots, which turned out to

789
00:41:26,373 --> 00:41:30,733
Speaker 18: be the dumbest idea of all time. And yeah, all

790
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Speaker 18: I had to do for the morning was just circling

791
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Speaker 18: yacht at high speed.

792
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Speaker 3: And say that, you say all I had to do?

793
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,693
Speaker 3: All I did was circle a yacht at high speed.

794
00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:42,573
Speaker 3: Am I an experiencing ski rider?

795
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Speaker 19: No?

796
00:41:43,013 --> 00:41:44,173
Speaker 3: What could possibly get wrong?

797
00:41:44,613 --> 00:41:44,853
Speaker 2: Yeah?

798
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Speaker 19: Yeah?

799
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Speaker 18: And like it was like it was the best morning

800
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Speaker 18: of my It was like sunrise circling yacht high speed.

801
00:41:49,693 --> 00:41:51,733
Speaker 18: I also love to go fast. Jet ski is really fun.

802
00:41:52,173 --> 00:41:53,613
Speaker 18: It was like the second time I've ever been on

803
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Speaker 18: a jet ski as well.

804
00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:56,493
Speaker 12: Anyway, I came.

805
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Speaker 18: Off with like high speed because I was just loving

806
00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:03,653
Speaker 18: the speed of this thing. Anyway, boots are for anyone

807
00:42:03,693 --> 00:42:05,853
Speaker 18: out there. Boots are the worst idea on a jet ski.

808
00:42:05,973 --> 00:42:08,573
Speaker 18: I didn't know that, but it is. So Yeah, ended

809
00:42:08,653 --> 00:42:11,813
Speaker 18: up having to get a full reconstruction of my my

810
00:42:11,853 --> 00:42:15,453
Speaker 18: ankle and I was I was were filming at the

811
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Speaker 18: Gold Coast, so I kind of just got Luckily, my

812
00:42:17,613 --> 00:42:19,613
Speaker 18: mom lives in Brisbane, so I just got stuck in

813
00:42:19,613 --> 00:42:21,853
Speaker 18: Brisbane for like three months.

814
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Speaker 12: After that. It was. It was hectic, but I did

815
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Speaker 12: all my rehab.

816
00:42:26,893 --> 00:42:28,733
Speaker 18: I did everything I need to do, and now that

817
00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:30,213
Speaker 18: ankle is like better than the other one.

818
00:42:30,453 --> 00:42:32,373
Speaker 12: It's like titanium leg.

819
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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's a really full on experience. And I

820
00:42:36,493 --> 00:42:39,373
Speaker 3: can imagine that, like talk about going from like not

821
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Speaker 3: zero to one hundred, putting it in reverse, like one

822
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Speaker 3: hundred to zero. You're back with you're rehabbing and stuff.

823
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Speaker 3: So did you like, was that kind of like from

824
00:42:48,053 --> 00:42:50,253
Speaker 3: a creative person specifictive? Was that a tough thing to

825
00:42:50,293 --> 00:42:52,053
Speaker 3: go through to be to be waylaid like that?

826
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Speaker 18: It definitely was, Like I was about to go on tour,

827
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Speaker 18: so that was a that was kind of hard to stomach,

828
00:42:58,853 --> 00:43:00,493
Speaker 18: you know what I mean, Like putting everything on hold

829
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Speaker 18: creatively pretty stifling, Like you know, when you're kind of

830
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:09,453
Speaker 18: bed ribbon, it's hard to feel inspired. But I luckily,

831
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Speaker 18: I was really nice, Like the band are so lovely,

832
00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,253
Speaker 18: and a couple of them came from them and they

833
00:43:14,293 --> 00:43:16,493
Speaker 18: got all my microphones everything that I like to record with,

834
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Speaker 18: and they flew up to meet me and just dropped

835
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Speaker 18: off everything. So I said, I'm kind of like a

836
00:43:21,253 --> 00:43:25,173
Speaker 18: cool little bedroom studio. While I was there and also

837
00:43:25,373 --> 00:43:29,093
Speaker 18: just I gotta I got an Xbox.

838
00:43:29,653 --> 00:43:31,253
Speaker 12: Because at a time like that, it's like all you

839
00:43:31,293 --> 00:43:32,213
Speaker 12: can do, you know what I mean.

840
00:43:32,293 --> 00:43:35,613
Speaker 18: So I ended up playing a game called Red Dead Redemption,

841
00:43:36,813 --> 00:43:38,093
Speaker 18: and I was at my mum's place in a while,

842
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:39,853
Speaker 18: and she she loved watching it because it's just like

843
00:43:39,853 --> 00:43:41,053
Speaker 18: beautiful horses.

844
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Speaker 12: In the countryside.

845
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Speaker 18: So yeah, it was like a lot of just like

846
00:43:44,333 --> 00:43:47,053
Speaker 18: making music as most they could, and then just gaming

847
00:43:47,253 --> 00:43:49,693
Speaker 18: just to keep myself saying.

848
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Speaker 3: Well, obviously it worked out. If your ankle now is

849
00:43:51,613 --> 00:43:53,813
Speaker 3: stronger than the other one, then the net result of

850
00:43:53,813 --> 00:43:57,773
Speaker 3: this experience is a good thing. Yes, Yeah, told me

851
00:43:58,053 --> 00:44:01,373
Speaker 3: talk to us a little bit about about the relationship

852
00:44:01,453 --> 00:44:03,373
Speaker 3: you and your bandmates have, because it seems to me

853
00:44:03,373 --> 00:44:07,973
Speaker 3: a pretty rear thing to meet so young and then

854
00:44:08,093 --> 00:44:09,853
Speaker 3: to endure as you guys have.

855
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:12,973
Speaker 12: Yeah, I feel really lucky.

856
00:44:13,013 --> 00:44:15,653
Speaker 18: Like we all met at school, I was the great

857
00:44:15,693 --> 00:44:18,613
Speaker 18: above all the other guys, and when.

858
00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:20,533
Speaker 12: I left school, I was going to start.

859
00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:22,133
Speaker 18: A band, but I couldn't really find anyone in my

860
00:44:22,213 --> 00:44:25,053
Speaker 18: grade but was interested in doing music like that.

861
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Speaker 12: But I can. I met the guys before. They're all

862
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Speaker 12: the grad below, and I just I kind of.

863
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Speaker 18: Individually hit them up and we were fifteen and sixteen

864
00:44:34,053 --> 00:44:36,333
Speaker 18: at the time, and we we realized the other day

865
00:44:36,333 --> 00:44:38,933
Speaker 18: that we've been in a band form like half of

866
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:43,133
Speaker 18: our lives, which is awesome. And we're as close as ever,

867
00:44:43,253 --> 00:44:45,333
Speaker 18: like we're all best friends. Jasira's like been my best

868
00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:48,453
Speaker 18: friend for like fifteen years now, and I feel really

869
00:44:48,493 --> 00:44:51,053
Speaker 18: lucky because no matter what happens on tour, we love

870
00:44:51,093 --> 00:44:54,813
Speaker 18: hanging out together, so, like you know, it's quite lovely,

871
00:44:54,813 --> 00:44:57,133
Speaker 18: and no matter what happens, we know how to support

872
00:44:57,173 --> 00:44:59,653
Speaker 18: each other. We don't how press each other's buttons. It's

873
00:44:59,733 --> 00:45:03,413
Speaker 18: like a really like really happy family. And I think

874
00:45:03,413 --> 00:45:05,893
Speaker 18: it really affects the music as well. Everyone's so supportive

875
00:45:06,413 --> 00:45:09,253
Speaker 18: and we like we see eye to eye, which is awesome.

876
00:45:09,413 --> 00:45:11,533
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Tell me how explain to us a bit

877
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:13,253
Speaker 3: more about how it fixed the music.

878
00:45:14,293 --> 00:45:16,453
Speaker 18: Well, I think it's just nice to know that it's

879
00:45:16,813 --> 00:45:21,133
Speaker 18: a safe, supported place. Like for instance, with me making music,

880
00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:24,973
Speaker 18: I like to change the sound according to what I'm

881
00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:27,773
Speaker 18: into at the time. And when you first start out music,

882
00:45:27,773 --> 00:45:28,493
Speaker 18: that could be kind of.

883
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:29,493
Speaker 12: Confronting, do you know what I mean?

884
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:31,693
Speaker 18: Like our first record, a lot of people would have

885
00:45:31,733 --> 00:45:35,373
Speaker 18: assumed the second record should be exactly the same. And

886
00:45:35,413 --> 00:45:39,133
Speaker 18: what I kind of naturally discovered was it just makes

887
00:45:39,173 --> 00:45:41,773
Speaker 18: sense to make the music you really like, even though

888
00:45:41,773 --> 00:45:44,653
Speaker 18: it can be risky at times. And the band was

889
00:45:44,733 --> 00:45:47,453
Speaker 18: so supportive even though it was spooky and risky.

890
00:45:47,493 --> 00:45:50,093
Speaker 12: They were like, just do what feels good. We got

891
00:45:50,133 --> 00:45:50,493
Speaker 12: you back.

892
00:45:51,293 --> 00:45:54,053
Speaker 18: And for me, knowing that support network is there makes

893
00:45:54,093 --> 00:45:57,653
Speaker 18: me feel just free to adventure and experiment, which is

894
00:45:58,053 --> 00:45:59,253
Speaker 18: like a really lucky place to be.

895
00:45:59,493 --> 00:46:01,973
Speaker 3: So that's really interesting because I can imagine that there

896
00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:07,533
Speaker 3: are potential upsides and potential downsides create tividly from a

897
00:46:07,573 --> 00:46:11,733
Speaker 3: creative perspective, because you know, in some respects, having some

898
00:46:11,773 --> 00:46:13,653
Speaker 3: tension is good when you can push, when you're pushing

899
00:46:13,693 --> 00:46:15,493
Speaker 3: back against each other and saying, oh, actually, I think

900
00:46:15,493 --> 00:46:16,773
Speaker 3: we need to tweat that, I need to tweak that.

901
00:46:17,133 --> 00:46:20,773
Speaker 3: But in another sense, being so safe with the other

902
00:46:20,813 --> 00:46:23,573
Speaker 3: people who you're performing with to be able to just

903
00:46:23,893 --> 00:46:26,253
Speaker 3: take massive risks and know that there's not going to

904
00:46:26,253 --> 00:46:28,453
Speaker 3: be any judgment or anything like that, that you actually

905
00:46:28,493 --> 00:46:31,653
Speaker 3: give an absolute total creative freedom to go off in

906
00:46:31,693 --> 00:46:34,533
Speaker 3: a completely new direction. That that's must be liberating.

907
00:46:35,413 --> 00:46:37,173
Speaker 18: It is great and like, and don't get me wrong,

908
00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:40,613
Speaker 18: like we do you know, we do offer insights and

909
00:46:40,653 --> 00:46:42,053
Speaker 18: constructive criticism to each other.

910
00:46:42,093 --> 00:46:45,053
Speaker 12: Like I remember when when I made heavy.

911
00:46:44,773 --> 00:46:48,253
Speaker 18: Hearted, which is like our first dance song really you know,

912
00:46:48,453 --> 00:46:51,093
Speaker 18: previously that it was like more rock based pop stuff.

913
00:46:51,813 --> 00:46:54,053
Speaker 18: And I remember Andrew, my bass player, was like, dude, like,

914
00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:55,453
Speaker 18: we can't.

915
00:46:55,533 --> 00:46:58,093
Speaker 12: We can't release this dance music. And I was like, no,

916
00:46:58,173 --> 00:46:59,813
Speaker 12: I think it's fine, Like I just I really like this.

917
00:46:59,973 --> 00:47:02,053
Speaker 12: I think it's like well crafted. It feels like exactly

918
00:47:02,053 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 12: what I want to do.

919
00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:05,973
Speaker 18: And we just had this back and forth and in

920
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:08,213
Speaker 18: the end, like I think he more understood, like it

921
00:47:08,253 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 18: was a bigger part of the record. But I really

922
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:12,693
Speaker 18: did like that conversation because he was like, dude, this

923
00:47:12,733 --> 00:47:13,373
Speaker 18: is dance music.

924
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:16,333
Speaker 12: I know. Like, yeah, I think we're doing dance music now.

925
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:19,173
Speaker 18: But yeah, you know, I think we're all kind of

926
00:47:19,253 --> 00:47:22,053
Speaker 18: used to the idea of making the music that feels

927
00:47:22,053 --> 00:47:23,293
Speaker 18: good first, do you know what I mean. I think

928
00:47:23,293 --> 00:47:24,653
Speaker 18: that's the best thing you can do for your fans

929
00:47:24,693 --> 00:47:25,533
Speaker 18: is make music in love.

930
00:47:25,893 --> 00:47:29,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honest, which is what people want. It's authentic, Right,

931
00:47:30,173 --> 00:47:31,893
Speaker 3: who's changed the most in high school?

932
00:47:34,493 --> 00:47:36,813
Speaker 18: You know, it's funny, like none of us have changed,

933
00:47:37,653 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 18: Like it's funny. I feel like we're all the exact

934
00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:44,333
Speaker 18: same people. I will say maybe Keel and our drummer. Yeah,

935
00:47:44,413 --> 00:47:47,293
Speaker 18: he's a very similar guy, but he's just added like

936
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:50,453
Speaker 18: a lot of elements to his life. Like he's just

937
00:47:50,573 --> 00:47:54,653
Speaker 18: about to get his pilot's license. Yeah, he's like he's

938
00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:57,293
Speaker 18: just like the Bad Grills of the band. He's just

939
00:47:57,293 --> 00:47:59,373
Speaker 18: got all these like adventurous things he likes. He likes

940
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 18: bows and arrows, he loves going on like like three

941
00:48:03,053 --> 00:48:06,093
Speaker 18: week camping trips with like no food and like figuring

942
00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:08,253
Speaker 18: it out the hunting and stuff. I think for him,

943
00:48:08,413 --> 00:48:11,333
Speaker 18: he's definitely gone a lot that kind of way. He's

944
00:48:11,333 --> 00:48:13,053
Speaker 18: become more Bad Grills as the years ago.

945
00:48:13,413 --> 00:48:15,733
Speaker 3: He should probably have been the one on the jet ski.

946
00:48:16,173 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 18: One hundred percent. He would have been fine too.

947
00:48:19,333 --> 00:48:23,373
Speaker 3: Hey you guys said that writing residency in LA recently, right?

948
00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:24,533
Speaker 12: Yeah?

949
00:48:24,573 --> 00:48:24,973
Speaker 3: How was that?

950
00:48:25,933 --> 00:48:27,853
Speaker 12: It was great? Yeah? Yeah, I spent like, I think

951
00:48:27,853 --> 00:48:30,493
Speaker 12: it was like eight weeks in La.

952
00:48:31,533 --> 00:48:33,093
Speaker 18: It kind of went in with just the plan to

953
00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:36,093
Speaker 18: set up some co writes for people, and it was

954
00:48:36,133 --> 00:48:38,133
Speaker 18: really fun. They spent a lot of time writing with

955
00:48:38,333 --> 00:48:42,813
Speaker 18: Chroma Sparks over there What's so Not as well, and

956
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:43,653
Speaker 18: it was just really nice.

957
00:48:43,693 --> 00:48:46,533
Speaker 12: Like for me, I was at that experimental part of the.

958
00:48:46,453 --> 00:48:48,493
Speaker 18: Record, I was trying to figure out, you know, maybe

959
00:48:48,533 --> 00:48:51,133
Speaker 18: there'll be some collabse I'll figure it out as they

960
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 18: go and actually hold my hand.

961
00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:55,773
Speaker 12: The new single was a product of that trip.

962
00:48:56,133 --> 00:48:59,653
Speaker 18: There's a really amazing artist named Running Touch from oz

963
00:49:00,293 --> 00:49:03,293
Speaker 18: and he comes from more of like a death metal background.

964
00:49:03,573 --> 00:49:05,373
Speaker 18: It was interesting to work with, but the way he

965
00:49:05,413 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 18: produces vocals amazing. So that was like one of the

966
00:49:09,533 --> 00:49:12,573
Speaker 18: first kind of production collabs I've ever done, and I

967
00:49:12,613 --> 00:49:12,973
Speaker 18: loved it.

968
00:49:12,933 --> 00:49:14,653
Speaker 12: It's like a successful trip, I think.

969
00:49:14,933 --> 00:49:18,573
Speaker 3: And if you compare that to the safety of creating

970
00:49:18,653 --> 00:49:20,533
Speaker 3: music with the band when they all know you so well,

971
00:49:20,733 --> 00:49:22,573
Speaker 3: how did they compare.

972
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:26,133
Speaker 18: It's you know, it can generally feel the same depending

973
00:49:26,173 --> 00:49:28,493
Speaker 18: on how you choose your people you want to write with.

974
00:49:28,813 --> 00:49:31,213
Speaker 18: I think for me, it's like it's like a date,

975
00:49:31,413 --> 00:49:32,813
Speaker 18: you know what I mean, Like you go on a

976
00:49:32,893 --> 00:49:35,053
Speaker 18: date with someone you're interested in, someone you think it's cool,

977
00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:37,173
Speaker 18: and it's the same thing as some writing. Like if

978
00:49:37,173 --> 00:49:38,933
Speaker 18: you get a good vibe from that person and you

979
00:49:38,973 --> 00:49:42,293
Speaker 18: can potentially be friends, then more often than not, the

980
00:49:42,293 --> 00:49:44,253
Speaker 18: session will go well, you know what I mean. It's

981
00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:47,173
Speaker 18: just like that. It's just like a friendship. So I

982
00:49:47,253 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 18: was kind of like it. I met a lot of

983
00:49:48,293 --> 00:49:49,693
Speaker 18: people and made a lot of friends on that trip.

984
00:49:49,733 --> 00:49:52,413
Speaker 18: And again, it's just the same thing as like bully

985
00:49:52,453 --> 00:49:55,093
Speaker 18: your gut and if you feel good about that person,

986
00:49:55,933 --> 00:49:57,813
Speaker 18: even if they make really different music, you can make

987
00:49:57,853 --> 00:49:58,293
Speaker 18: something cool.

988
00:49:58,373 --> 00:50:00,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. Still there's no kind of barriers to

989
00:50:00,293 --> 00:50:02,333
Speaker 3: the chemistry, right, even even if they come from a

990
00:50:02,333 --> 00:50:05,893
Speaker 3: totally different background. Yeah, oh that's so good. So what

991
00:50:05,933 --> 00:50:07,653
Speaker 3: can we expec from the New Zealand shows?

992
00:50:08,933 --> 00:50:12,533
Speaker 18: Oh, well, this is we're just integrating my hand to

993
00:50:12,573 --> 00:50:15,133
Speaker 18: the set, which is which is going to be really fun.

994
00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:19,333
Speaker 18: And it turns out we've we've we've started dabbling in lasers,

995
00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:19,693
Speaker 18: I think.

996
00:50:21,453 --> 00:50:23,853
Speaker 12: Yeah, in Wellington and Auckland.

997
00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:27,573
Speaker 18: Yeah, we have this lighting guy that is like the

998
00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:30,973
Speaker 18: best type of mediac He just loves like everything, he

999
00:50:31,093 --> 00:50:32,573
Speaker 18: loves like all the machine in tech.

1000
00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:32,813
Speaker 2: You know.

1001
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:35,373
Speaker 12: He's just like he's just found these lasers and apparently

1002
00:50:35,373 --> 00:50:36,373
Speaker 12: not many people have used.

1003
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:39,253
Speaker 18: So it turns out like in New Zealand we're going

1004
00:50:39,293 --> 00:50:41,893
Speaker 18: to be throwing down some lasers, so expect that.

1005
00:50:41,933 --> 00:50:43,413
Speaker 12: Bring your Sonnies, I guess.

1006
00:50:43,573 --> 00:50:47,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. There's sounds some sounds

1007
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:50,973
Speaker 3: fan tested. Well, We're delighted to have you here. I'm

1008
00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:54,693
Speaker 3: really pleased that you are back releasing music. I'm really

1009
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:56,813
Speaker 3: pleased that you're that your ankle is better. And we

1010
00:50:56,853 --> 00:50:58,773
Speaker 3: can't wait to have Jungle Giants here very soon.

1011
00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:00,373
Speaker 12: Thank you so much. Ben.

1012
00:51:00,613 --> 00:51:03,453
Speaker 3: There is Sam Hales from Jungle Giants. They're playing Auckland

1013
00:51:03,453 --> 00:51:06,053
Speaker 3: and Wellington shows next month. We have all the details

1014
00:51:06,053 --> 00:51:08,453
Speaker 3: on the news Talk Said b website. It is nineteen

1015
00:51:08,453 --> 00:51:11,693
Speaker 3: minutes past ten on your Saturday morning before eleven o'clock.

1016
00:51:11,733 --> 00:51:13,693
Speaker 3: We you want a real we want to understand what's

1017
00:51:13,693 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 3: going to happen in the real world with all of

1018
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,893
Speaker 3: the crazy Trump tariff stuff this week. So, yes, the

1019
00:51:18,933 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 3: markets are up and down all over the place. They

1020
00:51:20,813 --> 00:51:24,893
Speaker 3: are all sort of geopolitical implications. But two basic questions

1021
00:51:24,893 --> 00:51:27,133
Speaker 3: I have. Number one, what does it mean for Kiwi's

1022
00:51:27,173 --> 00:51:31,213
Speaker 3: kiwisavers and what does it mean for the likelihood of

1023
00:51:31,653 --> 00:51:34,693
Speaker 3: mortgage rate cuts in the next few months and cuts

1024
00:51:34,693 --> 00:51:36,453
Speaker 3: to the ocr So we're going to take a closer

1025
00:51:36,453 --> 00:51:39,413
Speaker 3: look at that before eleven o'clock. Next up, we've got

1026
00:51:39,453 --> 00:51:41,773
Speaker 3: your screen time picks for this week shows to watch

1027
00:51:41,813 --> 00:51:44,053
Speaker 3: and stream at home. It's nineteen past ten.

1028
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1031
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Speaker 3: Twenty two past ten, which means it's screen time time

1032
00:51:56,973 --> 00:52:00,333
Speaker 3: on your Saturday morning. Tara Award is our screen time expert.

1033
00:52:00,373 --> 00:52:02,893
Speaker 3: Every week she makes three picks for TV shows to

1034
00:52:02,893 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 3: watch and stream at home over the weekend. Hey Tara,

1035
00:52:05,773 --> 00:52:09,253
Speaker 3: good morning. Okay, let's begin with a show streaming on

1036
00:52:09,293 --> 00:52:12,413
Speaker 3: Apple TV plus tell us about your Friends and Neighbors.

1037
00:52:13,493 --> 00:52:15,853
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's finished White Lotus and you're missing a show

1038
00:52:15,893 --> 00:52:18,453
Speaker 11: that's sort of poking fun at the rich and terrible

1039
00:52:18,453 --> 00:52:20,973
Speaker 11: people of the world. Your Friends and Neighbors is worth

1040
00:52:20,973 --> 00:52:23,813
Speaker 11: a watch. This is a new drama. It stars John

1041
00:52:23,853 --> 00:52:27,293
Speaker 11: Hamm who plays a successful businessman who is one day

1042
00:52:27,773 --> 00:52:30,373
Speaker 11: out of the blow fired from his job and all

1043
00:52:30,373 --> 00:52:33,053
Speaker 11: of a sudden, he goes from having everything whye family,

1044
00:52:33,133 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 11: beautiful house to having very little, and so he comes

1045
00:52:36,813 --> 00:52:39,973
Speaker 11: up with this idea to steal from his rich friends

1046
00:52:39,973 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 11: and neighbors. And his idea is that they have so

1047
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:44,853
Speaker 11: much stuff they won't notice the things that go missing.

1048
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:47,893
Speaker 11: And because he's so similar to his friends and neighbors.

1049
00:52:48,013 --> 00:52:49,933
Speaker 11: He'll be the last person that they suspect.

1050
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:50,893
Speaker 2: And so he.

1051
00:52:50,893 --> 00:52:53,733
Speaker 11: Starts off with you know, small things, watches and cash,

1052
00:52:53,773 --> 00:52:57,253
Speaker 11: and then gets older and more ambitious and gets himself

1053
00:52:57,253 --> 00:53:00,173
Speaker 11: into trouble and it's very hard to have sympathy for him.

1054
00:53:00,173 --> 00:53:02,973
Speaker 11: Most people will just get another job when they get fired. Yeah,

1055
00:53:03,493 --> 00:53:05,613
Speaker 11: you know, he still has a lot of stuff, but

1056
00:53:06,013 --> 00:53:07,973
Speaker 11: a bit the white lotus. The characters and the show

1057
00:53:08,013 --> 00:53:11,733
Speaker 11: behave badly and their own worst enemy. But John Hammer

1058
00:53:11,773 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 11: is great in this. He's very suave even when he's

1059
00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:17,173
Speaker 11: falling apart. And Amanda Pete places his ex wife, she's

1060
00:53:17,173 --> 00:53:19,453
Speaker 11: fantastic as well. The only thing with the show is

1061
00:53:19,493 --> 00:53:21,573
Speaker 11: that there is a lot of setup. It's a really

1062
00:53:21,613 --> 00:53:25,013
Speaker 11: slow start. I wanted something happen to happen sooner than

1063
00:53:25,053 --> 00:53:26,413
Speaker 11: it did. But if you can stick with it and

1064
00:53:26,453 --> 00:53:28,733
Speaker 11: you don't mind a slower pace, this is a really

1065
00:53:28,733 --> 00:53:31,413
Speaker 11: smart drama that's going to turn into a darker kind

1066
00:53:31,453 --> 00:53:32,453
Speaker 11: of thriller as it goes along.

1067
00:53:32,493 --> 00:53:32,813
Speaker 18: So it is.

1068
00:53:33,013 --> 00:53:34,373
Speaker 3: I was going to say it is a drama because

1069
00:53:34,373 --> 00:53:36,253
Speaker 3: it almost sounds like a comedy, you know.

1070
00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:38,053
Speaker 11: Yeah, No, it is a drama. I mean there's sort

1071
00:53:38,053 --> 00:53:40,253
Speaker 11: of the funny moments in it, but yeah, definitely more

1072
00:53:40,253 --> 00:53:40,973
Speaker 11: on the drama side.

1073
00:53:41,093 --> 00:53:43,693
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay, cool. So that's your friends and neighbors

1074
00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:47,453
Speaker 3: starring the suave John Hamm. It's on Apple TV Plus

1075
00:53:47,493 --> 00:53:49,493
Speaker 3: on Prime Video. Tell us about land Man.

1076
00:53:50,333 --> 00:53:52,133
Speaker 11: Yeah, if you want to show with more bite and

1077
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:55,093
Speaker 11: energy that also stars John Hamm. Then this is land

1078
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Speaker 11: Man on Prime Video. And this came out at the

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Speaker 11: end of last year, so it's not brand new, but

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00:53:59,853 --> 00:54:01,733
Speaker 11: it flew under the radar bit and a couple of

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00:54:01,733 --> 00:54:03,733
Speaker 11: people have recommended it to me in the last few

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00:54:03,773 --> 00:54:05,373
Speaker 11: weeks and I can see why. It's such a great

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00:54:05,373 --> 00:54:08,413
Speaker 11: little drama. It stars Billy Bob Thornton and it's set

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00:54:08,493 --> 00:54:11,373
Speaker 11: in the oil fields of Texas and Billy Bob Thornton

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00:54:11,413 --> 00:54:15,133
Speaker 11: plays a landman called Tommy. He's the overseer of the

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00:54:15,173 --> 00:54:18,453
Speaker 11: oil drilling operation in West Texas, so he's in charge

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00:54:18,493 --> 00:54:22,053
Speaker 11: of negotiations and access and dealing with billiers and landowners.

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00:54:23,053 --> 00:54:25,573
Speaker 11: Everyone's trying to get rich. Everyone is out for themselves

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Speaker 11: and Tommy is in the middle of it. And he's

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00:54:27,613 --> 00:54:29,933
Speaker 11: an alcoholic. He's got a lot of debt and he's

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00:54:29,973 --> 00:54:34,653
Speaker 11: trying to survive and quite a cutthroat industry. And when

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00:54:34,693 --> 00:54:36,733
Speaker 11: I was watching this before I knew anything about it,

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00:54:36,773 --> 00:54:39,253
Speaker 11: I thought, this feels like Yellowstone but in the desert.

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00:54:39,453 --> 00:54:42,053
Speaker 11: And that's because it was created by Taylor Sheridan, who

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00:54:42,133 --> 00:54:44,853
Speaker 11: also made Yellowstone, and so it's got that same sort

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00:54:44,853 --> 00:54:49,133
Speaker 11: of grittiness and masculinity to it. There's danger and politics

1097
00:54:49,413 --> 00:54:52,773
Speaker 11: and bureaucracy. I mean, it's not perfect. The female characters

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00:54:52,973 --> 00:54:55,373
Speaker 11: are pretty one dimensional and it's very.

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Speaker 20: By the book.

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00:54:55,853 --> 00:54:58,093
Speaker 11: If you watch a lot of Taylor shar and stuff

1101
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:01,573
Speaker 11: shows like Tulsa king and Mayor of Kingstown, it's still

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00:55:01,573 --> 00:55:04,173
Speaker 11: a really entertaining show. Some great one line is in there.

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00:55:04,413 --> 00:55:06,653
Speaker 11: John Hammer's in this. To me, more is in this who?

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Speaker 11: And I think Billy Bob Thornton is in his element here.

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00:55:09,093 --> 00:55:10,253
Speaker 11: He's having such a great time.

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Speaker 3: Very good. That's land Man. So that's on Prime Video.

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00:55:13,653 --> 00:55:15,653
Speaker 3: And last but not least, North of North as John

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Speaker 3: Hammond this as well.

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Speaker 11: No, strangely, well not yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, north of It on Netflix.

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00:55:22,853 --> 00:55:26,613
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, this is a very wholesome, delightful new Canadian

1112
00:55:26,653 --> 00:55:28,613
Speaker 11: comedy that's just come to Netflix. And I wanted to

1113
00:55:28,653 --> 00:55:30,813
Speaker 11: mention this because there are two New Zealanders in the

1114
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Speaker 11: cast of the show. Bailey Potching and Jay Ryan are

1115
00:55:33,493 --> 00:55:35,373
Speaker 11: both in this, which is very cool for such a

1116
00:55:35,373 --> 00:55:39,093
Speaker 11: global show on Netflix. But this is a comedy set

1117
00:55:39,133 --> 00:55:42,173
Speaker 11: in the aptic, in a tiny town as far north

1118
00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,773
Speaker 11: as you can go. It's surrounded by snow and ice

1119
00:55:44,853 --> 00:55:47,893
Speaker 11: even in summer, and it's about a young Enik woman.

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Speaker 11: She's a wife and mother who wants to break free

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Speaker 11: and define her own life, but it's finding that quite

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00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:56,813
Speaker 11: hard to do in a community where everyone knows you

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Speaker 11: and has certain expectations of how you should behave And

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Speaker 11: Bailey Potching plays one of her best friends, and Jay

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Speaker 11: Ryan is an out of towner who arrives one day

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Speaker 11: and turns everything upside down. And if you like warm,

1127
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:14,613
Speaker 11: gentle comedies like Shit's Creek or Superstore, this isn't that

1128
00:56:14,653 --> 00:56:18,053
Speaker 11: same kind of vein. It's charming, there's lots of quirky characters,

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00:56:18,533 --> 00:56:21,493
Speaker 11: and very unique in that it's set in this in

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Speaker 11: community and one of the most remote place on earth,

1131
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:26,973
Speaker 11: So you know, it's fabulous. There's nothing else like this

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Speaker 11: on TV at the moment, which makes it worth a watch.

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Speaker 3: A very good Okay, I'm looking forward to seeing that

1134
00:56:31,373 --> 00:56:33,973
Speaker 3: does sound kind of interesting, so that's North of North

1135
00:56:34,013 --> 00:56:37,093
Speaker 3: It's on Netflix, Landman is on Prime Video, and Your

1136
00:56:37,293 --> 00:56:40,653
Speaker 3: Friends and Neighbors is the one with John Hamm stealing

1137
00:56:40,693 --> 00:56:42,813
Speaker 3: from his friends. That's on Apple TV. Plus all of

1138
00:56:42,853 --> 00:56:44,613
Speaker 3: those shows will be up on the News Talks. He'd

1139
00:56:44,613 --> 00:56:47,973
Speaker 3: be website before eleven o'clock on Newstalks, he'd be We're

1140
00:56:47,973 --> 00:56:49,693
Speaker 3: talking tech and we're going to take a closer look

1141
00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:52,533
Speaker 3: at the company Shopify. Shopify is one of these companies

1142
00:56:52,573 --> 00:56:55,893
Speaker 3: that helps companies around the world to kind of sell

1143
00:56:55,933 --> 00:56:58,453
Speaker 3: and sell products. It's kind of an e an e

1144
00:56:58,493 --> 00:57:02,293
Speaker 3: commerce enabler. Anyway, they were one of these companies that

1145
00:57:02,613 --> 00:57:06,053
Speaker 3: move quite quickly with trying to change the workplace. So,

1146
00:57:06,453 --> 00:57:09,733
Speaker 3: for example, they i think went through and deleted all

1147
00:57:09,973 --> 00:57:13,933
Speaker 3: recurring meetings that had more than three people from memory.

1148
00:57:14,013 --> 00:57:17,933
Speaker 3: So any meeting that was in everyone's calendar or schedule

1149
00:57:18,053 --> 00:57:20,253
Speaker 3: in a workplace that had more than three people and

1150
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,173
Speaker 3: was recurring, they went through and deleted it and said

1151
00:57:22,213 --> 00:57:25,293
Speaker 3: you had to justify having the meeting. Now they've gone

1152
00:57:25,293 --> 00:57:28,253
Speaker 3: a step further. They are saying that all employees have

1153
00:57:28,333 --> 00:57:32,933
Speaker 3: to justify why AI can't do the job they want

1154
00:57:32,933 --> 00:57:35,293
Speaker 3: to hire for. They've got to do that for all jobs.

1155
00:57:35,653 --> 00:57:37,493
Speaker 3: So we're going to tell you more about that very shortly.

1156
00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:41,853
Speaker 3: Plus of course, how this week's market turmoil courtesy of

1157
00:57:41,893 --> 00:57:45,613
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's tariffs is likely to affect your keiwi saber.

1158
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Speaker 3: This is coming up to ten thirty.

1159
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:52,453
Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on news talksb.

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00:57:57,813 --> 00:58:09,973
Speaker 19: Friends started question around never going backwards, an oh, and

1162
00:58:10,213 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 19: I won't never give.

1163
00:58:15,293 --> 00:58:17,173
Speaker 17: Me two.

1164
00:58:19,293 --> 00:58:21,453
Speaker 19: Turn around and cover.

1165
00:58:22,693 --> 00:58:26,053
Speaker 3: This is out of My Head by Delaney Davidson. It's

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00:58:26,053 --> 00:58:29,333
Speaker 3: a big night. On Tuesday night, the Tate Music Prize

1167
00:58:29,453 --> 00:58:34,573
Speaker 3: Awards ceremony takes place. Delay Davidson nominated for his album

1168
00:58:34,613 --> 00:58:37,533
Speaker 3: out of My Head and before Midday is Stelle Clifford,

1169
00:58:37,573 --> 00:58:39,413
Speaker 3: our music reviewer, is going to join us and run

1170
00:58:39,493 --> 00:58:42,013
Speaker 3: us through exactly what the awards are, how they work,

1171
00:58:42,053 --> 00:58:44,573
Speaker 3: and why they're such a big deal. In my view,

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00:58:44,653 --> 00:58:47,413
Speaker 3: I just going to make me sound terrible. The Tate

1173
00:58:47,533 --> 00:58:50,213
Speaker 3: Music Prize is like that. It's like the it's like

1174
00:58:50,253 --> 00:58:52,333
Speaker 3: the Music Prize for the like if you're really into

1175
00:58:52,773 --> 00:58:55,493
Speaker 3: like slightly alti music, you know, like if it's like

1176
00:58:55,533 --> 00:58:59,853
Speaker 3: the Muso's Musos, you know, I think it's that's fair.

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00:59:00,693 --> 00:59:04,013
Speaker 3: It just kind of celebrates independent Kiwi music artists and

1178
00:59:04,053 --> 00:59:05,693
Speaker 3: their work from the last year. And look, there have

1179
00:59:05,773 --> 00:59:08,373
Speaker 3: been some big name winners, the likes of Lord. Not

1180
00:59:08,453 --> 00:59:11,853
Speaker 3: sure if we heard her Elds Harding reb Fountain. Lord

1181
00:59:11,933 --> 00:59:16,773
Speaker 3: famously hit major heights with her debut album that she

1182
00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:19,533
Speaker 3: actually shared the prize among her fellow nominees because I

1183
00:59:19,533 --> 00:59:20,773
Speaker 3: think they get a bit of cash and get a

1184
00:59:20,773 --> 00:59:23,573
Speaker 3: bit of studio time, and so she made sure that

1185
00:59:23,613 --> 00:59:26,573
Speaker 3: she kind of spread the love a little bit. So

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00:59:26,693 --> 00:59:28,813
Speaker 3: as in addition to the Museo who are celebrated on

1187
00:59:28,853 --> 00:59:32,293
Speaker 3: Tuesday night, Friend of the Show Chris Schultz is nominated

1188
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:35,693
Speaker 3: for Outstanding Music Journalism for his sub Stack Boiler Room,

1189
00:59:36,413 --> 00:59:39,733
Speaker 3: and one prize has actually been announced ahead of time.

1190
00:59:39,813 --> 00:59:43,293
Speaker 3: So the Classic Record Award was handed to Sheehart for

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00:59:43,373 --> 00:59:46,453
Speaker 3: their nineteen ninety five kill Joy album. Makes a lot

1192
00:59:46,453 --> 00:59:49,973
Speaker 3: of sense given they've been touring and it kind of

1193
00:59:50,053 --> 00:59:53,813
Speaker 3: acknowledges a timeless, altered or album that was released more

1194
00:59:53,813 --> 00:59:56,173
Speaker 3: than twenty years ago but continues to inspire today. So

1195
00:59:56,213 --> 00:59:57,413
Speaker 3: there you go. We're going to share with you a

1196
00:59:57,413 --> 00:59:59,613
Speaker 3: bit more keeping music. Some of the other finalists for

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00:59:59,653 --> 01:00:03,413
Speaker 3: the Tape Music's Top Awards Top Prize before midday today

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Speaker 3: before eleven o'clock, we're in the garden next up, so

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Speaker 3: our texpert is here. After a maddening world week in

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Speaker 3: the World of Technology twenty seven to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: Asia Business corresponding Peter Lewis withers, but one forty five

1203
01:00:20,973 --> 01:00:24,093
Speaker 15: for China, is that a completely separate thing that will

1204
01:00:24,173 --> 01:00:27,293
Speaker 15: unfold in its own way, or because China is China,

1205
01:00:27,453 --> 01:00:28,493
Speaker 15: we're all in this together.

1206
01:00:28,613 --> 01:00:30,773
Speaker 21: I think in some ways we're all in this together

1207
01:00:30,893 --> 01:00:34,133
Speaker 21: because what happens to the Chinese economy perfects the rest

1208
01:00:34,133 --> 01:00:38,813
Speaker 21: of Asia. About fifteen percent of China's economy depends upon exports.

1209
01:00:38,893 --> 01:00:42,053
Speaker 21: Around fifteen percent of that goes to the US. So

1210
01:00:42,093 --> 01:00:44,893
Speaker 21: this could easily shave off a couple of percent off

1211
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Speaker 21: of China's GDP because when how it's one hundred and

1212
01:00:47,893 --> 01:00:51,533
Speaker 21: forty five percent trade between those two countries has come

1213
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Speaker 21: to a complete.

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Speaker 15: Hawksback Monday from six am, The mic Asking Breakfast with

1215
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Speaker 15: the Rain driver of the Last News Talk zib.

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01:00:58,013 --> 01:01:01,013
Speaker 3: Twenty four to eleven Non News Talk zib Our texpert

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Speaker 3: Paul Steinhaus is with us this morning. Paul crazy old

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01:01:04,813 --> 01:01:06,853
Speaker 3: week in your world. Have you tried by anything on

1219
01:01:06,893 --> 01:01:09,533
Speaker 3: Timu in the last few days. You're based in the US,

1220
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Speaker 3: which means that you still have some significant tariffs against

1221
01:01:13,413 --> 01:01:15,253
Speaker 3: the world's second biggest economy.

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01:01:16,053 --> 01:01:17,613
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, no I haven't.

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Speaker 22: Ali Barber's Ali Barber expresses probably off limits now tours

1224
01:01:21,853 --> 01:01:23,533
Speaker 22: and that those prices are we sky high.

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Speaker 3: I mean one hundred and forty five percent is the

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Speaker 3: tariff at the moment, So basically everything wasn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: two and a half times as much as it would

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Speaker 3: have which is yeah, okay, well one and a half

1229
01:01:33,613 --> 01:01:38,533
Speaker 3: time started. Yeah, we started. But have you I'm genuinely interested.

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Speaker 3: Have you Have you just gone into Timu or Amazon, like,

1231
01:01:41,813 --> 01:01:44,173
Speaker 3: have you noticed any difference in terms of prices yet?

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Speaker 22: No, but you do hear stories of I mean one

1233
01:01:47,573 --> 01:01:51,053
Speaker 22: of the big ones over here is cars, because you

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01:01:51,093 --> 01:01:52,573
Speaker 22: know the importing of cars are going to.

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Speaker 14: Be heavily tariff was on the very first tariff to.

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01:01:54,693 --> 01:01:57,653
Speaker 22: Be announced, and the weekend that they announced it, apparently

1237
01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:01,133
Speaker 22: there were just like lines lines around the block ye

1238
01:02:01,373 --> 01:02:04,053
Speaker 22: at cars dealerships because people want to try to get

1239
01:02:04,053 --> 01:02:06,973
Speaker 22: in beforehand. There are people talking about like or maybe

1240
01:02:07,013 --> 01:02:08,933
Speaker 22: I should drive and buy like the new iPhone. Then

1241
01:02:08,933 --> 01:02:12,613
Speaker 22: you make some of the technology stuff maybe before you

1242
01:02:12,653 --> 01:02:15,093
Speaker 22: start to see some of these tariffs, because obviously the

1243
01:02:15,133 --> 01:02:18,213
Speaker 22: goods that are already here are okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I've heard this crazy, this crazy story. So Apple

1245
01:02:21,173 --> 01:02:22,773
Speaker 3: is one of the in terms of the tech companies

1246
01:02:22,773 --> 01:02:24,613
Speaker 3: that will be hit the most because it's all about

1247
01:02:24,773 --> 01:02:28,533
Speaker 3: goods rather than the services, right, So it's like physical things.

1248
01:02:28,693 --> 01:02:31,253
Speaker 3: And so Apple does a lot of its manufacturing in China.

1249
01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:34,493
Speaker 3: Although it's tried to move things to other countries lately,

1250
01:02:34,893 --> 01:02:36,733
Speaker 3: including the UNS, it still does a lot of China.

1251
01:02:36,813 --> 01:02:37,013
Speaker 12: Yep.

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01:02:37,293 --> 01:02:40,653
Speaker 3: So apparently they tried to They had cargo planes that

1253
01:02:40,693 --> 01:02:44,333
Speaker 3: they were like stuffing full of iPhones and iPads and

1254
01:02:45,013 --> 01:02:47,373
Speaker 3: via headsets, hoping that they might be able to get

1255
01:02:47,413 --> 01:02:51,333
Speaker 3: those to the US before the tariffs come to effect.

1256
01:02:51,373 --> 01:02:52,573
Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty crazy.

1257
01:02:53,093 --> 01:02:57,453
Speaker 22: Yeah, six hundred tons of iPhones apparently tried to come.

1258
01:02:57,293 --> 01:02:59,213
Speaker 14: Into the US that way. But can you imagine being

1259
01:02:59,253 --> 01:03:00,013
Speaker 14: the person Apple.

1260
01:03:00,053 --> 01:03:04,173
Speaker 22: It's like, hey, tim, yeah, mister Apple, I have a

1261
01:03:04,253 --> 01:03:05,493
Speaker 22: really good idea.

1262
01:03:05,813 --> 01:03:07,373
Speaker 14: We're gonna need planes.

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01:03:07,733 --> 01:03:11,053
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's it's actually probably the beginning of a really

1264
01:03:11,053 --> 01:03:11,613
Speaker 22: good film.

1265
01:03:11,693 --> 01:03:14,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's time to be alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone

1266
01:03:14,573 --> 01:03:16,653
Speaker 3: someone said it was like the it's like those you know,

1267
01:03:16,693 --> 01:03:19,213
Speaker 3: it's like seeing the Americans fleeing Vietnam, you know that

1268
01:03:19,373 --> 01:03:23,573
Speaker 3: the last Choppers out of Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

1269
01:03:23,773 --> 01:03:26,453
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of kind of like that. Anyway, obviously

1270
01:03:26,493 --> 01:03:27,973
Speaker 3: going to be a crazy time to watch all of that.

1271
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Speaker 3: And I reckon Apple. I know we've said this already.

1272
01:03:30,013 --> 01:03:32,173
Speaker 3: My take is that I reckon, We've got to keep

1273
01:03:32,173 --> 01:03:35,253
Speaker 3: on watching Apple because Apple has been the big player

1274
01:03:35,813 --> 01:03:38,493
Speaker 3: for so long now, it kind of since the since

1275
01:03:38,533 --> 01:03:42,493
Speaker 3: the advent of the smartphone, Apple has dominated the kind

1276
01:03:42,533 --> 01:03:45,373
Speaker 3: of tech world, and I just reckon they're under pressure

1277
01:03:45,413 --> 01:03:47,613
Speaker 3: on all sorts of fronts at the moment. Not only

1278
01:03:47,693 --> 01:03:49,373
Speaker 3: is their tech maybe not as good as it was

1279
01:03:49,453 --> 01:03:52,133
Speaker 3: compared to its competitives, but now they've got these tariffs

1280
01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:53,773
Speaker 3: to deal with as well. So yeah, under a lot

1281
01:03:53,773 --> 01:03:58,253
Speaker 3: of pressure at the moment. Anyway, WhatsApp has some big

1282
01:03:58,333 --> 01:04:01,293
Speaker 3: changes coming, and WhatsApp is increasingly becoming the app that

1283
01:04:01,333 --> 01:04:04,053
Speaker 3: I think many of us use, if not as our

1284
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:07,133
Speaker 3: kind of primary form of communication, it's certainly right up

1285
01:04:07,173 --> 01:04:11,973
Speaker 3: there as our number one messaging app. And there are

1286
01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:13,253
Speaker 3: all sorts of changes coming.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, And it's funny because the messaging is one of

1288
01:04:16,173 --> 01:04:19,973
Speaker 22: the things that actually keeps Apple like people sticky to Apple, right,

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Speaker 22: They've got their I message groups, they like seeing the

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Speaker 22: blue bubble. It's one of the things that the European

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01:04:24,573 --> 01:04:28,133
Speaker 22: Commission has been really fixated on trying to get Android

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01:04:28,293 --> 01:04:31,573
Speaker 22: and iPhones to talk better, and WhatsApp is one of

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01:04:31,613 --> 01:04:34,253
Speaker 22: those apps that really does bridge the gap. And now

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01:04:34,253 --> 01:04:37,573
Speaker 22: it's getting more into the encryption game, and it's now

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01:04:37,653 --> 01:04:40,253
Speaker 22: really trying to become I think it wants to be

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01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:43,093
Speaker 22: almost Jack like, more than just a one on one

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01:04:43,813 --> 01:04:46,253
Speaker 22: or like family group chat type thing. I think it

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01:04:46,333 --> 01:04:48,493
Speaker 22: really wants to be starting to go after the likes

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Speaker 22: of the Slacks and the Discords because all of these

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Speaker 22: new features that are coming to WhatsApp are really about groups.

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01:04:54,813 --> 01:04:56,693
Speaker 22: It's going to show you now how many people are

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01:04:56,693 --> 01:04:59,613
Speaker 22: online and your group. It's going to make it easier

1303
01:04:59,653 --> 01:05:02,293
Speaker 22: to react to messages with emoji and if someone's already

1304
01:05:03,013 --> 01:05:05,053
Speaker 22: you know, added one, you can just click and add

1305
01:05:05,093 --> 01:05:05,853
Speaker 22: another one like you.

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01:05:05,813 --> 01:05:07,453
Speaker 14: Do on team and that you do on Slack.

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01:05:07,613 --> 01:05:11,053
Speaker 22: Right, there's gonna be more controls for notifications. Do you've

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01:05:11,093 --> 01:05:13,813
Speaker 22: blast it out to the whole group just mentioned certain people,

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01:05:14,173 --> 01:05:16,413
Speaker 22: and then they're starting to build features too, like things

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01:05:16,453 --> 01:05:19,013
Speaker 22: like events. You can send out RSVPs, Now you can

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01:05:19,053 --> 01:05:21,533
Speaker 22: respond with maybe. Now you can add plus ones. So

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01:05:21,573 --> 01:05:24,173
Speaker 22: it's really trying to move away from just being that hey, mum,

1313
01:05:24,653 --> 01:05:27,333
Speaker 22: got a picture for you app and actually do more.

1314
01:05:27,453 --> 01:05:28,173
Speaker 14: They're spending.

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01:05:28,333 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 22: The big update is that they've invested in high quality

1316
01:05:31,493 --> 01:05:34,053
Speaker 22: video calls. You can you'll be able to pinch to

1317
01:05:34,133 --> 01:05:37,173
Speaker 22: zoom if you're on your mobile phone. Just little like

1318
01:05:37,173 --> 01:05:39,453
Speaker 22: that where they're really trying to make it, you know,

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01:05:39,493 --> 01:05:40,813
Speaker 22: it's a better experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'd be like welcome Murrikan some of those changes.

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Speaker 3: I mean I already find concept really intuitive. Hey, Shopify

1322
01:05:48,853 --> 01:05:52,173
Speaker 3: is now forcing employees to justify why AI can't do

1323
01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:54,253
Speaker 3: the job they want to hire, which is fascinating because

1324
01:05:54,293 --> 01:05:56,373
Speaker 3: this is the same company that did the whole deleting

1325
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Speaker 3: of every recurring meeting A.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 12: So.

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01:06:00,613 --> 01:06:04,213
Speaker 22: I think this is probably the first time we've seen

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01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:07,133
Speaker 22: one of the headlines where AI's at. She's now starting

1330
01:06:07,173 --> 01:06:09,773
Speaker 22: to replace people. You know, we've had mentions of it.

1331
01:06:09,813 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 22: When it was the Hollywood Writers' strike, it was, oh,

1332
01:06:12,453 --> 01:06:14,933
Speaker 22: what are the AI is coming to the writer's room.

1333
01:06:15,213 --> 01:06:18,053
Speaker 22: But the CEO of Shopify has actually come out and

1334
01:06:18,093 --> 01:06:21,173
Speaker 22: sent a letter to all of his employees, and first

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01:06:21,213 --> 01:06:23,173
Speaker 22: of all, it says, you're going to start using AI

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01:06:23,213 --> 01:06:26,173
Speaker 22: in your daily work just like point blank, you have to.

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01:06:26,493 --> 01:06:28,893
Speaker 22: He wants them to be more efficient. He believes AI

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01:06:28,973 --> 01:06:30,733
Speaker 22: is going to help it do that. And he said,

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Speaker 22: I have to read this because if you're a parent,

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01:06:32,813 --> 01:06:35,173
Speaker 22: I feel like your kids need to be thinking about

1341
01:06:35,413 --> 01:06:39,653
Speaker 22: how to incorporate AI into their life right because he says, frankly,

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01:06:40,013 --> 01:06:42,293
Speaker 22: I don't think it's feasible to opt out of learning

1343
01:06:42,413 --> 01:06:45,293
Speaker 22: the skill of AI and applying it to your craft.

1344
01:06:45,613 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 22: You are welcome to try, but I want to be honest,

1345
01:06:48,253 --> 01:06:51,733
Speaker 22: I cannot see this working out today indefinitely, not tomorrow.

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01:06:52,773 --> 01:06:54,093
Speaker 14: It's kind of pointed, isn't it.

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01:06:54,773 --> 01:06:56,693
Speaker 22: So not only are they saying you've got to use

1348
01:06:56,693 --> 01:06:59,413
Speaker 22: it every day, they're baking into their performance reviews, so

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01:06:59,453 --> 01:07:02,733
Speaker 22: you'll be now assessed based on how much you're using AI.

1350
01:07:03,373 --> 01:07:05,773
Speaker 14: And then they're going the absolute next step.

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01:07:05,533 --> 01:07:08,733
Speaker 22: Further, which is instead of just writing a job description,

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01:07:08,853 --> 01:07:12,293
Speaker 22: before you do that, you have to prove why the

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01:07:12,333 --> 01:07:15,453
Speaker 22: things in the job description are not going to be

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01:07:15,493 --> 01:07:16,853
Speaker 22: able to be done by the AI.

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Speaker 14: So that's a massive change. I think that's the.

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01:07:20,173 --> 01:07:23,653
Speaker 22: First time we've really seen it framed like that where

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01:07:24,493 --> 01:07:27,053
Speaker 22: it actually is starting to replace.

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Speaker 14: People in companies.

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Speaker 22: More so than just being kind of like a fun

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Speaker 22: toy on the side or a helpful tool or a

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Speaker 22: thoughts starter or a document summarizer.

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Speaker 14: It's okay, no, it's.

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01:07:37,693 --> 01:07:41,493
Speaker 22: Actually going to apparently now start really doing things.

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Speaker 3: Have you personally noticed like a big step up in

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Speaker 3: the aid of capability of the likes of because I

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01:07:48,373 --> 01:07:50,373
Speaker 3: was just going to say, I've like in the last

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Speaker 3: even in the last six months, and the difference between

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Speaker 3: the most recent models that they've released, like they're getting

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Speaker 3: very impressive. It's certain tasks, you know.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, And so the one so I use a lot

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Speaker 22: of AI in coding, so in my company.

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Speaker 14: And the thing that I've noticed is that when I

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01:08:09,733 --> 01:08:10,053
Speaker 14: sort of.

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01:08:09,973 --> 01:08:12,933
Speaker 22: Started doabbling with it maybe a year ago, the accuracy

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01:08:12,973 --> 01:08:16,333
Speaker 22: was terrible, and then about six months ago it started

1376
01:08:16,333 --> 01:08:20,213
Speaker 22: to actually be able to do some things relatively autonomously

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01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:23,453
Speaker 22: and not miss it up too badly. Now I've just

1378
01:08:23,453 --> 01:08:27,733
Speaker 22: started switching over to the new Google large language model,

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01:08:27,813 --> 01:08:32,253
Speaker 22: and it's incredible. And that's the kind of benchmark I've

1380
01:08:32,293 --> 01:08:34,533
Speaker 22: been seeing and using is how well can it code?

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01:08:34,573 --> 01:08:37,133
Speaker 22: And code's good to benchmark on because it's very well

1382
01:08:37,173 --> 01:08:39,213
Speaker 22: documented and you can see if it actually works.

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01:08:39,973 --> 01:08:44,533
Speaker 14: But no, you're right, it is getting increasingly good smarter.

1384
01:08:44,653 --> 01:08:45,853
Speaker 14: I think I'm trying to figure out that.

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01:08:46,453 --> 01:08:50,053
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's getting smarter, it's making less errors, it's doing

1386
01:08:50,093 --> 01:08:51,813
Speaker 22: things now like citing its work.

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01:08:52,213 --> 01:08:57,933
Speaker 14: It's maybe hallucinating a little bit less. But I'm scared.

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01:08:57,653 --> 01:08:59,653
Speaker 22: Excited to see where it goes in the next year

1389
01:08:59,693 --> 01:09:02,173
Speaker 22: because it is. You can if you're a daily user,

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01:09:02,213 --> 01:09:03,013
Speaker 22: you do notice it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Thanks Paul, take care of catch you soon.

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01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:08,573
Speaker 3: Jack shopped on TIMU last night. There were no big increases,

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01:09:08,573 --> 01:09:10,413
Speaker 3: in fact a big discount. Yeah, but there's because you're

1394
01:09:10,413 --> 01:09:13,733
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. We we don't have tariffs. Try it

1395
01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:15,893
Speaker 3: from America. We've got one hundred and forty five percent

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01:09:15,933 --> 01:09:18,173
Speaker 3: tariff right now. Nineteen ninety two of our text number

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01:09:18,533 --> 01:09:19,533
Speaker 3: sixteen to eleven.

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Speaker 2: No bit of way to kick off your weekend. Then

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01:09:22,013 --> 01:09:22,653
Speaker 2: with Jack.

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01:09:22,853 --> 01:09:26,293
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepwured on codon enz

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Speaker 1: for high quality supplements used Talk.

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01:09:28,693 --> 01:09:31,973
Speaker 3: Zemb fourteen to eleven. Ed McKnight from Opie's partners is

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01:09:32,013 --> 01:09:34,493
Speaker 3: here talking money killed her. Great to be here, Jack, Oh,

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01:09:34,613 --> 01:09:38,013
Speaker 3: great to be speaking with you. My goodness, what a

1405
01:09:38,253 --> 01:09:42,933
Speaker 3: week of turmoil for the global It's sort of hard

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01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:44,613
Speaker 3: to keep up with everything at the moment. So I

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01:09:44,613 --> 01:09:47,613
Speaker 3: don't think the tariffs have changed overnight, which makes well

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01:09:47,613 --> 01:09:49,893
Speaker 3: a nice change if you like a little bit of stability.

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01:09:49,893 --> 01:09:51,413
Speaker 3: But we wanted to talk to you about some of

1410
01:09:51,493 --> 01:09:54,853
Speaker 3: the impacts for everyday Kiwi. So let's start off with

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01:09:55,013 --> 01:09:58,453
Speaker 3: the impact on Kiwi savers this week, because there has

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01:09:58,493 --> 01:09:59,253
Speaker 3: been a bit of movement.

1413
01:10:00,133 --> 01:10:03,733
Speaker 23: There has been huge movements, so the American stock market,

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01:10:03,733 --> 01:10:06,093
Speaker 23: the S and P five hundred that went down ten

1415
01:10:06,133 --> 01:10:09,453
Speaker 23: to since within around about two days, it's recovered a

1416
01:10:09,493 --> 01:10:13,373
Speaker 23: little bit, recovering about half of those losses. But look,

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01:10:13,413 --> 01:10:16,813
Speaker 23: I logged into the Keewee Savor a USB portal just

1418
01:10:16,853 --> 01:10:19,253
Speaker 23: before I picked up the phone here Jack, I'm personally

1419
01:10:19,293 --> 01:10:22,853
Speaker 23: down six and a half k over the last thirty days.

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01:10:22,933 --> 01:10:26,333
Speaker 23: I know some Kiwis, especially those who are closer to retirement,

1421
01:10:26,533 --> 01:10:28,453
Speaker 23: are going to be logging in and seeing even bigger

1422
01:10:28,533 --> 01:10:33,813
Speaker 23: losses on that. Thankfully, not too many changes overnight, but

1423
01:10:33,853 --> 01:10:37,853
Speaker 23: there's I've been thinking a lot about first home buyers

1424
01:10:37,893 --> 01:10:40,413
Speaker 23: and retires people who are quite close to needing to

1425
01:10:40,533 --> 01:10:42,933
Speaker 23: use that money. You know, the thing we often say

1426
01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:45,973
Speaker 23: to younger people is if you've got a really long

1427
01:10:46,133 --> 01:10:48,893
Speaker 23: time horizon, if you're twenty five now and you're not

1428
01:10:48,933 --> 01:10:52,013
Speaker 23: going to retire till sixty five, maybe you'd typically put

1429
01:10:52,053 --> 01:10:55,013
Speaker 23: your Kiwi savor in a growth fund or an aggressive fund,

1430
01:10:55,013 --> 01:10:58,373
Speaker 23: something that's got a lot of exposure to shares. And

1431
01:10:58,453 --> 01:11:01,653
Speaker 23: so if that's you, you probably have seen some quite

1432
01:11:01,733 --> 01:11:04,413
Speaker 23: large drops. But what this has got to be thinking

1433
01:11:04,413 --> 01:11:07,013
Speaker 23: about as well, if you're twenty five, is your time

1434
01:11:07,053 --> 01:11:09,813
Speaker 23: horizon really forty years? Are you really not going to

1435
01:11:09,813 --> 01:11:12,613
Speaker 23: touch that Keiwi savor until you're sixty five or are

1436
01:11:12,653 --> 01:11:15,893
Speaker 23: you going to need it be a house deposit next year? Well,

1437
01:11:15,893 --> 01:11:17,653
Speaker 23: if you're going to need it for your house deposit

1438
01:11:17,733 --> 01:11:20,933
Speaker 23: next yeah, hopefully you weren't in a growth fund because

1439
01:11:20,973 --> 01:11:23,293
Speaker 23: you really needed that money in a year or two years,

1440
01:11:23,333 --> 01:11:26,213
Speaker 23: maybe five years. And if you were about to pull

1441
01:11:26,253 --> 01:11:27,973
Speaker 23: out that key we saveor to buy it as a

1442
01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:31,133
Speaker 23: deposit for your first home, well you really hope that

1443
01:11:31,173 --> 01:11:33,213
Speaker 23: it hasn't dropped, you know, five K or six k,

1444
01:11:33,293 --> 01:11:35,733
Speaker 23: because when you are buying that first home. Every last

1445
01:11:35,773 --> 01:11:38,533
Speaker 23: dollar really does count. And I've also been thinking about

1446
01:11:38,533 --> 01:11:41,893
Speaker 23: those retirees. Hopefully those people are who are sixty three

1447
01:11:41,933 --> 01:11:44,333
Speaker 23: and aren't going to be using that key we saver

1448
01:11:44,533 --> 01:11:47,093
Speaker 23: very shortly. Hopefully they are in the right fund for

1449
01:11:47,133 --> 01:11:49,693
Speaker 23: them as well. Now you could be sixty three and

1450
01:11:49,733 --> 01:11:52,573
Speaker 23: maybe you've got some other savings stashed outsper and you're

1451
01:11:52,573 --> 01:11:54,573
Speaker 23: not going to touch that key we save it to seventeen.

1452
01:11:54,573 --> 01:11:56,853
Speaker 23: Maybe then it's still okay to be at a growth

1453
01:11:56,933 --> 01:11:59,093
Speaker 23: fund have a lot of shares in there. But I

1454
01:11:59,173 --> 01:12:01,853
Speaker 23: think it's a really good wake up call for Kiwi's

1455
01:12:02,213 --> 01:12:05,133
Speaker 23: not to be too polyannerous, sure, not to be too

1456
01:12:05,213 --> 01:12:08,493
Speaker 23: optimistic in terms of the fund. Yes, shares do tend

1457
01:12:08,493 --> 01:12:11,373
Speaker 23: to make more money over time, but if you are

1458
01:12:11,373 --> 01:12:13,733
Speaker 23: going to pull out that money within the next couple

1459
01:12:13,773 --> 01:12:16,413
Speaker 23: of years, just think very carefully about what sort of

1460
01:12:16,413 --> 01:12:18,973
Speaker 23: funds that money that money is invested in.

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01:12:19,173 --> 01:12:21,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon there's always a good argument. Well, it

1462
01:12:21,213 --> 01:12:23,173
Speaker 3: depends where you are, like you say, but there's often

1463
01:12:23,213 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 3: a good argument for like structuring a bit of a split, right,

1464
01:12:27,253 --> 01:12:29,813
Speaker 3: so you have some of your key we savers, say,

1465
01:12:29,893 --> 01:12:32,133
Speaker 3: in a more conservative fund, you have some in a

1466
01:12:32,133 --> 01:12:34,053
Speaker 3: mixed fund, you have some in an aggressive fund. I mean,

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01:12:34,053 --> 01:12:35,653
Speaker 3: if you like me and you've got a few decades

1468
01:12:35,733 --> 01:12:38,013
Speaker 3: until you're going to be retiring, then sure chuck it

1469
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,173
Speaker 3: all into a more aggressive fund. That makes sense. But

1470
01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:43,333
Speaker 3: having a structured fund often makes make sense. And like

1471
01:12:43,373 --> 01:12:46,093
Speaker 3: you say, you know what a wake up call. And

1472
01:12:46,173 --> 01:12:48,813
Speaker 3: let's be honest, even if, even if these tariffs are

1473
01:12:48,853 --> 01:12:53,293
Speaker 3: all canceled tomorrow, the nature of Donald Trump's leadership is

1474
01:12:53,333 --> 01:12:55,893
Speaker 3: that there's likely to be some volatility over the next

1475
01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:57,733
Speaker 3: couple of years as well. Well, what do you think

1476
01:12:57,733 --> 01:12:58,973
Speaker 3: this is going to mean for interest rates?

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01:13:00,133 --> 01:13:02,373
Speaker 23: Well, according to the Reserve Bank, I reckon that the

1478
01:13:02,413 --> 01:13:05,613
Speaker 23: interest rates could have to come down faster. And it's

1479
01:13:05,693 --> 01:13:08,053
Speaker 23: quite strange as often when we think about tariffs, we

1480
01:13:08,093 --> 01:13:10,653
Speaker 23: think it's going to cause more inflation. And the more inflation,

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01:13:10,733 --> 01:13:14,533
Speaker 23: the fasta that prices go up. Typically you'd see interest

1482
01:13:14,613 --> 01:13:17,693
Speaker 23: rates increase, and certainly you'd likely see some inflation in

1483
01:13:17,773 --> 01:13:21,653
Speaker 23: the US. But here's the thing. We sell a lot

1484
01:13:21,653 --> 01:13:24,653
Speaker 23: of our stuff, a lot of our exports over China. Now,

1485
01:13:24,653 --> 01:13:27,533
Speaker 23: if China gets really hit by these tariffs and Chinese

1486
01:13:27,613 --> 01:13:30,533
Speaker 23: businesses aren't going so well, the Chinese economy isn't going

1487
01:13:30,573 --> 01:13:33,653
Speaker 23: so well. Well, they've got less money to buy our stuff,

1488
01:13:33,653 --> 01:13:35,573
Speaker 23: and if we can't sell as much of our stuff

1489
01:13:35,613 --> 01:13:38,293
Speaker 23: over to China or some of our other trading partners,

1490
01:13:38,533 --> 01:13:39,693
Speaker 23: then our economy is going.

1491
01:13:39,613 --> 01:13:40,653
Speaker 2: To slow down a bit.

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01:13:40,693 --> 01:13:43,853
Speaker 23: Now, there's so many arguments for why this could cause

1493
01:13:43,853 --> 01:13:46,333
Speaker 23: inflation here in New Zealand, but there are also a

1494
01:13:46,373 --> 01:13:48,893
Speaker 23: lot of arguments for why it could bring our inflation

1495
01:13:49,013 --> 01:13:51,453
Speaker 23: down and therefore our interest rates down. Looking at what

1496
01:13:51,453 --> 01:13:53,773
Speaker 23: the Reserve Bank is saying, us saying on the balance

1497
01:13:53,773 --> 01:13:57,093
Speaker 23: of it, we think this is actually going to bring

1498
01:13:57,093 --> 01:14:00,453
Speaker 23: our inflation rates slightly down. That means that interest rates

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Speaker 23: may need to fall, and we're actually seeing that in

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Speaker 23: the market. So if I look at what it costs

1501
01:14:04,253 --> 01:14:06,253
Speaker 23: a bank to borrow money and lend it out to

1502
01:14:06,493 --> 01:14:09,533
Speaker 23: you and me for our mortgages, you know, those wholesale

1503
01:14:09,613 --> 01:14:12,293
Speaker 23: rates are down about zero point two five percent over

1504
01:14:12,333 --> 01:14:15,733
Speaker 23: the last week or so. They're pretty volatile as you'd expect,

1505
01:14:15,933 --> 01:14:19,093
Speaker 23: but I am seeing a slight weakness and infrastructs interest

1506
01:14:19,133 --> 01:14:22,413
Speaker 23: rates coming down slightly because of the spart It is

1507
01:14:22,573 --> 01:14:24,733
Speaker 23: very volatile, so we'll see what happens tomorrow.

1508
01:14:25,093 --> 01:14:28,333
Speaker 3: It's a funny old time to be alive. Ed, it's

1509
01:14:28,333 --> 01:14:30,773
Speaker 3: a funny old time to be alive. I mean, never

1510
01:14:30,813 --> 01:14:32,853
Speaker 3: a dull day. I think we can all agree on

1511
01:14:32,893 --> 01:14:34,613
Speaker 3: that at the very least. But thank you so much.

1512
01:14:34,893 --> 01:14:37,653
Speaker 3: We really really appreciate that, and we'll catch again soon.

1513
01:14:38,733 --> 01:14:42,853
Speaker 1: Jack Gardening with Steel sharp free autumn upgrades on Still's

1514
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1515
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:46,813
Speaker 3: Man and the Garden is rude, climb past hey.

1516
01:14:46,773 --> 01:14:49,853
Speaker 7: Rude, Hey, good ay Jack, Yeah, it's good. Have you

1517
01:14:49,973 --> 01:14:53,013
Speaker 7: got four things we can talk about in terms of sound? Oh,

1518
01:14:53,973 --> 01:14:59,293
Speaker 7: you choose cicada, crickets, wetter or Katie debts.

1519
01:14:59,493 --> 01:15:02,133
Speaker 3: Do you know what I reckon? The difference between a

1520
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:07,493
Speaker 3: cicada and the cricket any can anyone describe in a moment?

1521
01:15:08,653 --> 01:15:10,853
Speaker 6: Yeah you can. Well. Cicada is very simple.

1522
01:15:11,653 --> 01:15:13,893
Speaker 7: Cicada is one of those things that there's timbles at

1523
01:15:13,893 --> 01:15:16,653
Speaker 7: the bottom of its belly and it.

1524
01:15:16,573 --> 01:15:17,813
Speaker 6: Makes it makes that.

1525
01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:23,213
Speaker 12: The same exactly.

1526
01:15:23,693 --> 01:15:26,053
Speaker 6: And also this is the cold thing on the bottom.

1527
01:15:26,093 --> 01:15:29,013
Speaker 7: They can do they can do clicking with their wings

1528
01:15:29,053 --> 01:15:30,373
Speaker 7: at the same time, so it's like.

1529
01:15:33,493 --> 01:15:35,973
Speaker 6: That sort of stuff and it becomes a bands.

1530
01:15:35,773 --> 01:15:40,053
Speaker 3: Literally yeah you know, yeah, right, okay, so they.

1531
01:15:39,893 --> 01:15:40,973
Speaker 6: Are basically finished.

1532
01:15:40,973 --> 01:15:44,053
Speaker 7: I heard one or two the other day, so it's

1533
01:15:44,053 --> 01:15:45,813
Speaker 7: not that long ago, but this is the end of it.

1534
01:15:46,813 --> 01:15:49,893
Speaker 7: And yeah, they'll be laying eggs inside twigs. I've got

1535
01:15:49,933 --> 01:15:52,093
Speaker 7: it all on the system. It's all there on the website.

1536
01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:55,773
Speaker 7: You'll find it right there. Second thing blackfield crickets for

1537
01:15:55,813 --> 01:15:58,853
Speaker 7: you guys in the north. It's a black thing that goes.

1538
01:16:00,573 --> 01:16:03,973
Speaker 6: At night. This is the end for them. Basically, they've

1539
01:16:04,013 --> 01:16:06,653
Speaker 6: laid their eggs already in February and all that, so

1540
01:16:06,773 --> 01:16:08,933
Speaker 6: you are too late to control it now. The best

1541
01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:10,213
Speaker 6: time to do it is December.

1542
01:16:10,493 --> 01:16:12,973
Speaker 7: I'll come back to that when that time comes anyway,

1543
01:16:13,253 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 7: but that noise will finish as well. What is really

1544
01:16:16,013 --> 01:16:19,973
Speaker 7: coming up is wetter because that's their mating season, and

1545
01:16:20,093 --> 01:16:23,053
Speaker 7: boys and girls are talking to each other and it's

1546
01:16:23,253 --> 01:16:27,853
Speaker 7: it's like, it's absolutely fabulous the way they communicate. And

1547
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:30,893
Speaker 7: of course, yeah, and then they make and then the

1548
01:16:30,933 --> 01:16:33,533
Speaker 7: females lay their eggs right from now one basically in

1549
01:16:33,613 --> 01:16:34,973
Speaker 7: soft soil.

1550
01:16:35,173 --> 01:16:38,253
Speaker 6: But the cool thing now is Katie did because it

1551
01:16:38,413 --> 01:16:41,333
Speaker 6: talks during the end of the day sort of afternoon

1552
01:16:41,373 --> 01:16:44,733
Speaker 6: and then through the night and it goes like it's.

1553
01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:50,773
Speaker 7: Very soft and it sounds and you can pick them

1554
01:16:50,853 --> 01:16:54,333
Speaker 7: up for miles away. It's absolutely brilliant, and here comes

1555
01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:57,333
Speaker 7: the thing. As soon as it gets dark, they climb

1556
01:16:57,333 --> 01:17:06,293
Speaker 7: into Julie's roses and they start eating eves. There's no sorry,

1557
01:17:06,453 --> 01:17:11,013
Speaker 7: because she is ridiculously relentless in getting the little bugus.

1558
01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:13,653
Speaker 7: As she saw on the the kitchen window last night.

1559
01:17:13,693 --> 01:17:15,853
Speaker 7: It was about to fall out of the window to

1560
01:17:15,893 --> 01:17:19,333
Speaker 7: get it. Very funny, but there you are. But the

1561
01:17:19,413 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 7: cool thing about.

1562
01:17:20,093 --> 01:17:21,973
Speaker 6: Katie ditches stay ventriloquists.

1563
01:17:22,453 --> 01:17:24,693
Speaker 7: So you think you hear him coming from the right,

1564
01:17:24,773 --> 01:17:27,693
Speaker 7: and so if your body and they come from the left,

1565
01:17:27,973 --> 01:17:29,773
Speaker 7: and they know exactly how to do.

1566
01:17:29,893 --> 01:17:34,813
Speaker 3: That, it's amazing. They bounce the sound around. Yeah, yeah,

1567
01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:37,213
Speaker 3: how clever. Okay, cool, all right, Well, like you said,

1568
01:17:37,253 --> 01:17:39,773
Speaker 3: we're starting to say goodbye to those four sounds as

1569
01:17:39,813 --> 01:17:42,453
Speaker 3: we head into the caller months. But you'll put some

1570
01:17:42,573 --> 01:17:44,973
Speaker 3: tips and some pictures of those up on the news talks.

1571
01:17:45,013 --> 01:17:46,933
Speaker 3: He'd be website, thank you very much, sir, catch so

1572
01:17:47,173 --> 01:17:49,733
Speaker 3: rude climbs in the garden for us as he is

1573
01:17:49,893 --> 01:17:52,693
Speaker 3: this time every week after eleven o'clock on Newstalks, he'd

1574
01:17:52,733 --> 01:17:55,853
Speaker 3: be the top tips on optimizing a little bit of

1575
01:17:55,933 --> 01:17:59,893
Speaker 3: a break over Easter and Anzac weekend, plus our travel

1576
01:17:59,893 --> 01:18:03,413
Speaker 3: correspondent is taking us this week to Munich in Germany.

1577
01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:06,693
Speaker 3: News is next. It's almost eleven o'clock on Newstalk.

1578
01:18:07,573 --> 01:18:11,293
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine keeping the conversation going through

1579
01:18:11,373 --> 01:18:14,253
Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot co dot ins here for

1580
01:18:14,373 --> 01:18:16,333
Speaker 1: high quality supplements used talk.

1581
01:18:16,253 --> 01:18:16,573
Speaker 2: Said b.

1582
01:18:39,973 --> 01:18:40,013
Speaker 12: In.

1583
01:18:40,293 --> 01:18:42,053
Speaker 3: If you're just standing on the radio this morning, Jack

1584
01:18:42,133 --> 01:18:45,053
Speaker 3: Tamee with you this Saturday morning through the twelve o'clock

1585
01:18:45,173 --> 01:18:47,653
Speaker 3: mid day. There was this funny little moment in the

1586
01:18:47,733 --> 01:18:51,693
Speaker 3: rugby last night in the Crusaders Hurricanes game. We're reubin Love.

1587
01:18:52,013 --> 01:18:55,493
Speaker 3: The Hurricanes fullback had kicked the ball deep and Will

1588
01:18:55,613 --> 01:18:58,253
Speaker 3: Jordan was going back. The Crusaders fullback was going back

1589
01:18:58,253 --> 01:18:59,533
Speaker 3: to collect it, and it was one of those kind

1590
01:18:59,573 --> 01:19:01,933
Speaker 3: of things with the ball was trickling towards the dead

1591
01:19:01,973 --> 01:19:03,693
Speaker 3: ball line and you were waiting to see whether or

1592
01:19:03,693 --> 01:19:05,573
Speaker 3: not it would go over the dead ball line. Anyway,

1593
01:19:05,613 --> 01:19:06,813
Speaker 3: it looked like it was gonna to get there, was

1594
01:19:06,853 --> 01:19:08,293
Speaker 3: going to get over the dead ball line, and Will

1595
01:19:08,373 --> 01:19:10,173
Speaker 3: Jordan was kind of leaving it because he knew that

1596
01:19:10,293 --> 01:19:13,733
Speaker 3: his team would have the advantage. But Reuben Love came

1597
01:19:13,853 --> 01:19:16,133
Speaker 3: kind of diving in at the last second to try

1598
01:19:16,253 --> 01:19:18,853
Speaker 3: and save the ball, but he sort of clipped Will

1599
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:21,333
Speaker 3: Jordan as he did it, so the ball had gone dead.

1600
01:19:21,413 --> 01:19:23,733
Speaker 3: He kind of clipped Will Jordan and it was it

1601
01:19:23,813 --> 01:19:26,733
Speaker 3: was nothing, but he kind of tackled him, and you know,

1602
01:19:26,973 --> 01:19:29,733
Speaker 3: it was like, was that really necessary tackle? Did you

1603
01:19:29,773 --> 01:19:31,413
Speaker 3: really need to make contact with Will Jordan?

1604
01:19:31,493 --> 01:19:31,613
Speaker 19: There?

1605
01:19:31,653 --> 01:19:33,613
Speaker 3: Couldn't you see that the ball was going dead? And

1606
01:19:33,693 --> 01:19:35,573
Speaker 3: it was one of those things when they slow it down,

1607
01:19:35,613 --> 01:19:37,573
Speaker 3: it kind of looks worse and you had to wonder

1608
01:19:37,733 --> 01:19:42,453
Speaker 3: in watching it what might have happened if he had accidentally,

1609
01:19:42,493 --> 01:19:45,613
Speaker 3: if Ruben Love had accidentally hit Will Jordan like in

1610
01:19:45,733 --> 01:19:49,213
Speaker 3: the knee and like injured him in some way. The

1611
01:19:49,293 --> 01:19:50,853
Speaker 3: angle that he hit him at, it sort of looked

1612
01:19:50,893 --> 01:19:53,373
Speaker 3: like that was maybe a possibility. And you need even

1613
01:19:53,373 --> 01:19:55,613
Speaker 3: know with rugby, of course, and you can only imagine

1614
01:19:55,653 --> 01:19:58,333
Speaker 3: what that would have meant if you know, one All

1615
01:19:58,373 --> 01:20:00,893
Speaker 3: Blacks fullback had accidentally taken out the other All Blacks

1616
01:20:00,933 --> 01:20:03,533
Speaker 3: fullback and injured him. There was a little skirmish that

1617
01:20:03,613 --> 01:20:06,173
Speaker 3: were kind of handbags afterwards, but nothing too serious came

1618
01:20:06,213 --> 01:20:08,533
Speaker 3: of for all anyway, one of those occasions in rugby,

1619
01:20:08,613 --> 01:20:11,693
Speaker 3: we think, but for a little bit of good luck.

1620
01:20:12,053 --> 01:20:14,093
Speaker 3: Things could have been a whole lot nastier there. Anyway,

1621
01:20:14,133 --> 01:20:16,213
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask Jason Pine about that before midday.

1622
01:20:16,613 --> 01:20:20,813
Speaker 3: Right now, it's nine minutes past eleven and time to

1623
01:20:20,893 --> 01:20:24,893
Speaker 3: catch up with clinical psychologist Doogle Sutherland, who is looking

1624
01:20:24,973 --> 01:20:27,853
Speaker 3: at the break and thinking about how best to make

1625
01:20:27,933 --> 01:20:30,333
Speaker 3: the most of it. I think, honestly, Google that half

1626
01:20:30,373 --> 01:20:33,493
Speaker 3: of New Zealand has decided to take off those days

1627
01:20:33,613 --> 01:20:36,653
Speaker 3: between Easter and Anzac Day. Three days means you get

1628
01:20:36,733 --> 01:20:38,493
Speaker 3: what like ten holidays or something.

1629
01:20:38,653 --> 01:20:38,853
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1630
01:20:39,453 --> 01:20:41,853
Speaker 24: Absolutely, It's one of those real bonuses, isn't it. Where

1631
01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,813
Speaker 24: you go, wow, I'm doing that, And I'm kind of

1632
01:20:44,813 --> 01:20:47,413
Speaker 24: looking forward to Thursday when I clock off and go wow,

1633
01:20:47,653 --> 01:20:49,213
Speaker 24: I justys off.

1634
01:20:49,373 --> 01:20:51,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.

1635
01:20:51,253 --> 01:20:53,373
Speaker 24: So yeah, I thought it was really timely to think

1636
01:20:53,453 --> 01:20:56,533
Speaker 24: about how we can maximize.

1637
01:20:56,413 --> 01:20:58,573
Speaker 2: Our leave because you know, lots of people.

1638
01:20:58,413 --> 01:21:00,853
Speaker 24: Are going away and at school holidays, and you know,

1639
01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:02,933
Speaker 24: people are I heard on the news earlier that you know,

1640
01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:06,333
Speaker 24: people are going to Bali and Vietnam and you know

1641
01:21:06,413 --> 01:21:09,093
Speaker 24: all these other exotic places. I said, well, it wouldn't

1642
01:21:09,093 --> 01:21:10,693
Speaker 24: it be good to give some people some good tips

1643
01:21:10,773 --> 01:21:12,453
Speaker 24: on it how to maximize it.

1644
01:21:12,613 --> 01:21:13,493
Speaker 4: I love that.

1645
01:21:13,853 --> 01:21:16,613
Speaker 3: I love that because you have my kind of approach

1646
01:21:16,653 --> 01:21:17,253
Speaker 3: to this sort of thing.

1647
01:21:17,333 --> 01:21:17,453
Speaker 2: Right.

1648
01:21:17,733 --> 01:21:20,773
Speaker 3: My wife always teases me and says that because I'm

1649
01:21:20,813 --> 01:21:23,773
Speaker 3: all about optimizing time, it's kind of the ethos through

1650
01:21:23,813 --> 01:21:27,173
Speaker 3: which I shape my entire life. So, for example, like

1651
01:21:27,413 --> 01:21:30,333
Speaker 3: she teases me because when I brush my teeth, I

1652
01:21:30,533 --> 01:21:33,133
Speaker 3: will be listening to a podcast on one point five speed.

1653
01:21:33,773 --> 01:21:35,533
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, I'm like, well, that's good time.

1654
01:21:35,573 --> 01:21:35,733
Speaker 14: You know.

1655
01:21:35,773 --> 01:21:37,773
Speaker 3: I could be brushing my teeth and learning, or I

1656
01:21:37,813 --> 01:21:39,853
Speaker 3: could just be brushing my teeth and she would never

1657
01:21:39,973 --> 01:21:42,933
Speaker 3: ever do that. But I like every little moment that

1658
01:21:43,053 --> 01:21:44,413
Speaker 3: I get, I'm like, I gonna seize it.

1659
01:21:44,493 --> 01:21:44,653
Speaker 12: You know.

1660
01:21:45,773 --> 01:21:48,533
Speaker 24: That's interesting because I'm just backed away from doing that

1661
01:21:48,653 --> 01:21:50,693
Speaker 24: a little bit. I'm just trying to really focus on

1662
01:21:50,853 --> 01:21:54,933
Speaker 24: doing one thing at a time. Yes, And it's it's

1663
01:21:55,013 --> 01:21:59,093
Speaker 24: been even even this sounds weird. Even when I walk,

1664
01:21:59,533 --> 01:22:00,693
Speaker 24: I'm just trying to really.

1665
01:22:00,533 --> 01:22:02,693
Speaker 11: Not because I sound like I walk.

1666
01:22:02,573 --> 01:22:04,893
Speaker 24: Really fast and I feel really stress because I'm really fast.

1667
01:22:04,973 --> 01:22:05,133
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1668
01:22:05,173 --> 01:22:07,253
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, I'm the only reason I feel stressed because

1669
01:22:07,253 --> 01:22:09,693
Speaker 24: I'm walking fast so slow. You So it's been Yeah,

1670
01:22:09,973 --> 01:22:10,813
Speaker 24: but I used to.

1671
01:22:10,813 --> 01:22:12,893
Speaker 3: Be like that day I've spent a lot of my lifetime.

1672
01:22:13,413 --> 01:22:16,853
Speaker 24: I'm brush my teeth and coma cat and with my

1673
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:18,573
Speaker 24: foot I will stir the pot as well.

1674
01:22:18,773 --> 01:22:20,333
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then yeah, you know it's.

1675
01:22:20,253 --> 01:22:20,853
Speaker 12: Like that's how.

1676
01:22:22,933 --> 01:22:25,693
Speaker 3: Well I wanted to see. Then if you could see

1677
01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:30,893
Speaker 3: the irony and in trying to like maximize or optimize

1678
01:22:30,933 --> 01:22:33,693
Speaker 3: a holiday, because some people will say the whole purpose

1679
01:22:33,733 --> 01:22:36,173
Speaker 3: of a holiday is not to worry about that stuff

1680
01:22:36,213 --> 01:22:39,453
Speaker 3: and is not to like try and squeeze every little

1681
01:22:39,573 --> 01:22:41,373
Speaker 3: bit of goodness out of that time. You know, the

1682
01:22:41,413 --> 01:22:42,653
Speaker 3: whole purpose is actually.

1683
01:22:43,773 --> 01:22:45,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1684
01:22:45,373 --> 01:22:47,653
Speaker 24: But also it's I guess I'm coming at it from

1685
01:22:47,733 --> 01:22:50,173
Speaker 24: how can you make the most of it? Like is

1686
01:22:50,293 --> 01:22:52,453
Speaker 24: there a way that if you're going to be on

1687
01:22:52,653 --> 01:22:55,693
Speaker 24: holiday you actually get the most benefit out of it?

1688
01:22:56,173 --> 01:22:58,373
Speaker 24: And and it's interesting because for a long time in

1689
01:22:58,533 --> 01:23:02,013
Speaker 24: psychology world people, there was a bit of debate about

1690
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:05,413
Speaker 24: where the psychologist, sorry, where the holidays were actually particularly

1691
01:23:05,533 --> 01:23:07,493
Speaker 24: helpful for our well being. There was sort of no

1692
01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:10,813
Speaker 24: strong research around it. But they've done a big sort

1693
01:23:10,813 --> 01:23:12,773
Speaker 24: of you know, they every now and then again they

1694
01:23:12,813 --> 01:23:14,613
Speaker 24: do this big mes analysis where they look at all

1695
01:23:14,653 --> 01:23:17,173
Speaker 24: the studies and go, actually, we can draw conclusions and

1696
01:23:17,293 --> 01:23:20,693
Speaker 24: they found that indeed, yes, the hold no surprise. Really,

1697
01:23:20,773 --> 01:23:25,573
Speaker 24: holidays are good for us to recharge, and again no surprise,

1698
01:23:25,693 --> 01:23:30,453
Speaker 24: the longer the holiday the best for us. But what

1699
01:23:30,613 --> 01:23:37,453
Speaker 24: I was, well, well, somebody would have been paid. Yeah,

1700
01:23:39,173 --> 01:23:42,773
Speaker 24: But the thing that I I sort of found interesting

1701
01:23:42,973 --> 01:23:45,213
Speaker 24: was that they said, actually that what they found was

1702
01:23:45,293 --> 01:23:48,733
Speaker 24: that lying around for the whole holiday doing completely nothing

1703
01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:52,133
Speaker 24: was actually less helpful for us. You've got a lot

1704
01:23:52,253 --> 01:23:56,333
Speaker 24: less benefit than if you were doing physical activities and socializing.

1705
01:23:56,933 --> 01:23:58,853
Speaker 24: And that's not to say, you know, a couple of

1706
01:23:58,973 --> 01:24:01,253
Speaker 24: days were enough andnoon lying on the beach just reading

1707
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:03,933
Speaker 24: your book and you know, is not I'm not saying

1708
01:24:03,973 --> 01:24:08,093
Speaker 24: that's not helpful, but but doing for entire ten days

1709
01:24:08,573 --> 01:24:11,493
Speaker 24: you don't get as much half as much benefit then

1710
01:24:11,653 --> 01:24:15,693
Speaker 24: if you were, you know, socializing and doing some kind

1711
01:24:15,693 --> 01:24:18,173
Speaker 24: of physical activity. So the idea of being out there

1712
01:24:18,213 --> 01:24:21,133
Speaker 24: and active when you come back, you get much more

1713
01:24:21,173 --> 01:24:23,453
Speaker 24: benefit from that than if you've just been lying around

1714
01:24:23,893 --> 01:24:24,373
Speaker 24: doing nothing.

1715
01:24:24,413 --> 01:24:27,093
Speaker 3: Really, that's very interesting. I wonder why that is. I

1716
01:24:27,173 --> 01:24:29,573
Speaker 3: guess it's like treating your body.

1717
01:24:29,653 --> 01:24:29,813
Speaker 2: Well.

1718
01:24:29,893 --> 01:24:32,653
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm surprised. I'm maybe a bit surprised

1719
01:24:32,693 --> 01:24:35,293
Speaker 3: for that, because I'm not I'm an active relaxer, like

1720
01:24:35,413 --> 01:24:38,413
Speaker 3: i'm you know again, so listening to a podcast on

1721
01:24:38,453 --> 01:24:40,773
Speaker 3: one point five time speed while listening while brushing my teeth.

1722
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:42,573
Speaker 3: I mean, you can imagine what I'm like on holiday.

1723
01:24:44,253 --> 01:24:46,653
Speaker 3: But I know that a lot of people swear by

1724
01:24:46,773 --> 01:24:49,813
Speaker 3: the sitting by the pool, you know, reading a book,

1725
01:24:50,533 --> 01:24:51,973
Speaker 3: sitting on the coups kind of situation.

1726
01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:52,493
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1727
01:24:52,573 --> 01:24:55,573
Speaker 24: Yeah, look weirdly enough, because I've done that too, and

1728
01:24:56,453 --> 01:24:58,733
Speaker 24: it wasn't actually that long ago my get Christmas. It was,

1729
01:24:58,773 --> 01:25:00,493
Speaker 24: and I had a period of doing that, and I

1730
01:25:00,653 --> 01:25:02,613
Speaker 24: actually got a little bit bored in the end, just

1731
01:25:02,733 --> 01:25:06,933
Speaker 24: another day sitting in the sun reading a book. And

1732
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:10,573
Speaker 24: I think there's something rejuvenating about actually getting out there

1733
01:25:10,693 --> 01:25:14,973
Speaker 24: and doing you know, doing some activities and also socializing too.

1734
01:25:15,053 --> 01:25:17,093
Speaker 2: You know, we do get a lot of.

1735
01:25:18,613 --> 01:25:22,213
Speaker 24: You know, recharge our well being from contact with other

1736
01:25:22,253 --> 01:25:25,973
Speaker 24: people and from that socializing. So you know, you could

1737
01:25:26,013 --> 01:25:28,133
Speaker 24: combine the two, of course you could. You could sit

1738
01:25:28,213 --> 01:25:30,733
Speaker 24: by the pool or sit by the beach and do

1739
01:25:30,853 --> 01:25:33,093
Speaker 24: that with other people and then you're kind of and

1740
01:25:33,173 --> 01:25:36,893
Speaker 24: then then then it's probably that's probably hitting at least

1741
01:25:36,933 --> 01:25:39,613
Speaker 24: some of what you want to do. It's interesting too,

1742
01:25:39,693 --> 01:25:43,853
Speaker 24: they found that the benefits of holidays last up to

1743
01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:46,173
Speaker 24: about forty three days, and if you work that out,

1744
01:25:46,253 --> 01:25:50,013
Speaker 24: that's roughly six weeks. And I've always been well for

1745
01:25:50,053 --> 01:25:51,573
Speaker 24: a little while now, I've been a big advocate of

1746
01:25:51,693 --> 01:25:55,333
Speaker 24: trying to plan every six weeks having some sort of holiday,

1747
01:25:55,333 --> 01:25:57,453
Speaker 24: whether that's just a long weekend or it's just the

1748
01:25:57,573 --> 01:26:00,773
Speaker 24: day off. So I think that really holds up that

1749
01:26:01,253 --> 01:26:04,493
Speaker 24: sort of idea about every six weeks do something. Yeah,

1750
01:26:05,213 --> 01:26:08,533
Speaker 24: that so too, just just from a personal point of view.

1751
01:26:08,573 --> 01:26:11,493
Speaker 24: If you can switch off, if you can mentally disconnect

1752
01:26:11,573 --> 01:26:15,773
Speaker 24: from your work, that's really really, really key to really

1753
01:26:16,493 --> 01:26:18,973
Speaker 24: having a good holiday. So it's not going to work

1754
01:26:19,013 --> 01:26:20,933
Speaker 24: so well if you've got your device with you or

1755
01:26:21,133 --> 01:26:23,453
Speaker 24: you know, well i'll just take my phone just in case,

1756
01:26:23,533 --> 01:26:25,213
Speaker 24: you know, and it's like no, no, no, no, no,

1757
01:26:25,333 --> 01:26:27,853
Speaker 24: you really want to cut that cord with work and

1758
01:26:28,013 --> 01:26:31,173
Speaker 24: just completely mentally detached and you'll get much more benefit

1759
01:26:31,213 --> 01:26:31,893
Speaker 24: out of being away.

1760
01:26:32,093 --> 01:26:32,293
Speaker 19: Again.

1761
01:26:32,333 --> 01:26:35,133
Speaker 24: That's probably you know, it's not kind of startling revelation,

1762
01:26:35,373 --> 01:26:37,373
Speaker 24: but it's kind of good to have it confirmed that

1763
01:26:37,413 --> 01:26:38,773
Speaker 24: that's a really useful thing to do.

1764
01:26:39,053 --> 01:26:40,933
Speaker 3: And it just reminds you to be purposeful about it.

1765
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:44,373
Speaker 3: So for example, I like, especially over the summer break

1766
01:26:44,453 --> 01:26:46,453
Speaker 3: is kind of my biggest break of the year, and

1767
01:26:46,613 --> 01:26:49,013
Speaker 3: I always like my last day of work. The last

1768
01:26:49,093 --> 01:26:51,733
Speaker 3: thing I do is that I turn the notifications off

1769
01:26:51,853 --> 01:26:55,773
Speaker 3: my emails and then I remove the emails from the

1770
01:26:55,853 --> 01:26:58,173
Speaker 3: home screen on my phone, so that even if I'm

1771
01:26:58,293 --> 01:27:00,773
Speaker 3: like looking at my phone kind of subconsciously, I'm not

1772
01:27:00,933 --> 01:27:03,653
Speaker 3: reminded of emails, you know, little yeah, yeah.

1773
01:27:03,573 --> 01:27:06,493
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just learned to to and

1774
01:27:06,533 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 24: off my my email notifications on my on my iPad.

1775
01:27:10,453 --> 01:27:11,293
Speaker 2: I used to they used to.

1776
01:27:11,333 --> 01:27:11,973
Speaker 12: Keep popping up.

1777
01:27:12,693 --> 01:27:14,733
Speaker 24: What the heck, why am I doing this? This is

1778
01:27:14,893 --> 01:27:17,613
Speaker 24: nuts because I would, you know, automatically remind me of

1779
01:27:17,853 --> 01:27:18,333
Speaker 24: work again.

1780
01:27:18,373 --> 01:27:19,813
Speaker 3: And it's like, no, no, no, I don't need to

1781
01:27:19,893 --> 01:27:21,013
Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, and I can.

1782
01:27:21,213 --> 01:27:22,533
Speaker 24: I have to remember to turn them on again.

1783
01:27:22,573 --> 01:27:23,373
Speaker 14: But that's that's all right.

1784
01:27:23,893 --> 01:27:25,733
Speaker 24: And people will always get hold of you if they

1785
01:27:25,893 --> 01:27:28,853
Speaker 24: really really really need you, you know, some major crisis

1786
01:27:28,933 --> 01:27:30,933
Speaker 24: that people can get hold of you. So yeah, anything

1787
01:27:31,053 --> 01:27:33,213
Speaker 24: like that where you can just absolutely switch off that

1788
01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:35,253
Speaker 24: the better you'll be in terms of making the most

1789
01:27:35,293 --> 01:27:35,773
Speaker 24: of that time.

1790
01:27:36,013 --> 01:27:38,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. He very good, Thank you Google.

1791
01:27:38,293 --> 01:27:39,533
Speaker 4: That's that is really interesting.

1792
01:27:39,613 --> 01:27:42,213
Speaker 3: Research. I'm surprised it's only six weeks, though, well maybe

1793
01:27:42,253 --> 01:27:45,053
Speaker 3: I'm not. You know how sometimes you come back from

1794
01:27:45,053 --> 01:27:46,533
Speaker 3: a holiday and you feel like two weeks lady, if

1795
01:27:46,533 --> 01:27:48,573
Speaker 3: you're letting need another one, I guess, I guess six

1796
01:27:48,653 --> 01:27:51,213
Speaker 3: weeks is the absolute maximum host. So in an ideal world,

1797
01:27:51,253 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 3: we all need to be structuring in little breaks every

1798
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:58,613
Speaker 3: forty three days. Doogle suddenly with us from Umbrella Wellbeing.

1799
01:27:58,653 --> 01:28:00,493
Speaker 3: We'll put all of those tips on the news talks.

1800
01:28:00,533 --> 01:28:02,573
Speaker 3: He'd be website. You can find everything from as show

1801
01:28:02,613 --> 01:28:03,773
Speaker 3: up there, you know how to do it news talks.

1802
01:28:03,773 --> 01:28:07,133
Speaker 3: He'd beat at coded in zed for slash Jack before

1803
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:11,293
Speaker 3: the perform a day rather Steve Williams kee we Steve Williams,

1804
01:28:11,813 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods's caddy, of course, has a brand new book

1805
01:28:15,373 --> 01:28:16,853
Speaker 3: that we're going to tell you about, and as well

1806
01:28:16,893 --> 01:28:18,613
Speaker 3: as that, we're going to be celebrating some of the

1807
01:28:18,813 --> 01:28:22,933
Speaker 3: musicians who are final finalists for this year's Tate Music Prize.

1808
01:28:23,373 --> 01:28:25,853
Speaker 3: The awards evening is Tuesday this week, so we're going

1809
01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:27,453
Speaker 3: to make a little bit of space to play you

1810
01:28:27,573 --> 01:28:30,413
Speaker 3: a couple of the finalists before midday next up at

1811
01:28:30,453 --> 01:28:33,133
Speaker 3: Travel Correspondents here he's in Germany for us this week

1812
01:28:33,293 --> 01:28:37,493
Speaker 3: seventeen past eleven on News Dogs, he'd be travel.

1813
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:40,653
Speaker 2: With Windy Woo Tours. Where the world is yours for now?

1814
01:28:41,213 --> 01:28:44,773
Speaker 3: Travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He's here this morning, calder.

1815
01:28:45,933 --> 01:28:46,493
Speaker 2: Jorder Jack.

1816
01:28:46,573 --> 01:28:49,493
Speaker 20: Look. I was intrigued by comment you made to Nikki

1817
01:28:49,573 --> 01:28:53,613
Speaker 20: Wicks this morning about how ready flavors seem to be

1818
01:28:53,733 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 20: trending with some sweet treats, and it reminded me to

1819
01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:02,933
Speaker 20: ask you, have you tried a hot Cross bun flavored pie.

1820
01:29:06,453 --> 01:29:08,533
Speaker 3: I think it's all well and good for britty flavors

1821
01:29:08,573 --> 01:29:11,133
Speaker 3: to trend in some sweet treats. For some things, I

1822
01:29:11,213 --> 01:29:14,573
Speaker 3: think there are limps to that trend, and I would

1823
01:29:14,813 --> 01:29:18,173
Speaker 3: very much put a hot Cross bun flavored pie beyond

1824
01:29:18,293 --> 01:29:21,893
Speaker 3: those limits. No, I haven't one. Where can you get one?

1825
01:29:21,973 --> 01:29:22,213
Speaker 6: Moment?

1826
01:29:23,253 --> 01:29:27,173
Speaker 20: I am not a frequent flyer to mecas like yourself,

1827
01:29:27,413 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 20: but I did actually fall off the wagon and you

1828
01:29:32,333 --> 01:29:35,453
Speaker 20: can fly. You can find them at McDonald's. What crossbun

1829
01:29:35,573 --> 01:29:41,893
Speaker 20: flavored pies? Seriously, and they are actually really good. The

1830
01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:43,893
Speaker 20: weird thing is chick and this is why.

1831
01:29:44,413 --> 01:29:48,933
Speaker 3: It's a sweet pie. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, for a moment,

1832
01:29:49,093 --> 01:29:50,653
Speaker 3: I thought we were talking about like a mince and

1833
01:29:50,733 --> 01:29:53,453
Speaker 3: cheese hot cross bun flow. No no, okay, yeah, no, god,

1834
01:29:53,493 --> 01:29:53,893
Speaker 3: no got it.

1835
01:29:53,973 --> 01:29:56,013
Speaker 20: Okay, So you know, you know how they sell like

1836
01:29:56,133 --> 01:29:59,533
Speaker 20: the apple pies and yeah, yeah, so it's sort of

1837
01:29:59,653 --> 01:30:00,173
Speaker 20: like one of them.

1838
01:30:00,693 --> 01:30:01,893
Speaker 2: I retreat flavor.

1839
01:30:03,253 --> 01:30:05,693
Speaker 3: It's not beyond the I mean that that at least

1840
01:30:05,813 --> 01:30:08,133
Speaker 3: is kind of in a consistent you know that at

1841
01:30:08,213 --> 01:30:09,453
Speaker 3: least you're sticking sweet with sweet.

1842
01:30:09,493 --> 01:30:11,333
Speaker 14: You know that is true.

1843
01:30:11,533 --> 01:30:13,733
Speaker 20: Yeah. The weird thing is it actually tastes more like

1844
01:30:13,853 --> 01:30:19,133
Speaker 20: Christmas fruit cake because there's so much like spiced fruit

1845
01:30:19,413 --> 01:30:19,613
Speaker 20: and that.

1846
01:30:19,893 --> 01:30:21,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really good.

1847
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:23,573
Speaker 3: So is it like kind of cinnamony?

1848
01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:25,093
Speaker 20: Yes?

1849
01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:28,773
Speaker 3: And yeah right it is there like a liquid filling

1850
01:30:28,893 --> 01:30:29,973
Speaker 3: or is it all just the dry fruit?

1851
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,493
Speaker 20: Yes, there's a bit of custard in there as well.

1852
01:30:33,093 --> 01:30:38,493
Speaker 3: Look I'm coming round quite quickly actually, yeah. Yeah, you

1853
01:30:38,573 --> 01:30:42,533
Speaker 3: brought me around very good. Okay. Anyway, we're talking Munich

1854
01:30:42,573 --> 01:30:47,013
Speaker 3: this morning headline experiences in Munich, and this time the

1855
01:30:47,093 --> 01:30:49,373
Speaker 3: year would mean that what spring is in full bloom.

1856
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:53,733
Speaker 20: Right certainly is jack Yeah, winter hibernation is over the

1857
01:30:53,813 --> 01:30:57,293
Speaker 20: beer halls, man, They are cranking in Munich. And even

1858
01:30:57,413 --> 01:31:02,133
Speaker 20: the volume of crowds forming in April at marine plants

1859
01:31:02,173 --> 01:31:06,893
Speaker 20: the old town square just huge, but one little mercy.

1860
01:31:07,373 --> 01:31:10,253
Speaker 20: It's still a bit early for the birthday suits brigade.

1861
01:31:10,373 --> 01:31:12,733
Speaker 20: I didn't realize this until a couple of weeks ago,

1862
01:31:12,853 --> 01:31:19,493
Speaker 20: but apparently Munchners love taking their clothes off. So when

1863
01:31:19,533 --> 01:31:23,493
Speaker 20: they're not wearing their later hosen, yeah, sort of. Come

1864
01:31:23,693 --> 01:31:27,813
Speaker 20: May June, when the when the mercury rises, the banks

1865
01:31:27,853 --> 01:31:31,333
Speaker 20: of the iSER River just morphs into this vast and

1866
01:31:31,413 --> 01:31:33,853
Speaker 20: naked sunbathe in colony. So you have been warned if

1867
01:31:33,893 --> 01:31:35,213
Speaker 20: you're heading to Munich this summer.

1868
01:31:35,853 --> 01:31:36,373
Speaker 26: I reel.

1869
01:31:36,613 --> 01:31:38,533
Speaker 3: I mean, is it wrong for me to say that

1870
01:31:39,133 --> 01:31:42,133
Speaker 3: the German people generally are sort of like a kind

1871
01:31:42,173 --> 01:31:45,653
Speaker 3: of you know, are keen enthusiasts and members of the

1872
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:46,813
Speaker 3: nudist community.

1873
01:31:46,893 --> 01:31:50,213
Speaker 20: I don't know the nature. Yes, I think the barbarians

1874
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:50,773
Speaker 20: lead the way.

1875
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:55,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, honestly. Weirdly enough, the older I get,

1876
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:58,133
Speaker 3: the more attractive some of that scenes, not not necessarily

1877
01:31:58,453 --> 01:32:04,853
Speaker 3: the community, but the prospect of sunning oneself obliberation anyway, exactly. Yeah,

1878
01:32:05,173 --> 01:32:08,733
Speaker 3: So what is so good about the Platzel neighborhood in Munich?

1879
01:32:09,213 --> 01:32:14,013
Speaker 20: Yes, if you want a really nice authentic slice of

1880
01:32:14,293 --> 01:32:16,773
Speaker 20: local life in the old town. I reckon check out

1881
01:32:16,853 --> 01:32:20,653
Speaker 20: the Platzel Hood because it's just got all these lovely

1882
01:32:20,973 --> 01:32:26,093
Speaker 20: cozy cafes. There's a timeless, homely ambience to the Platzel

1883
01:32:26,213 --> 01:32:28,613
Speaker 20: district in the Old Town. It's also where you will

1884
01:32:28,693 --> 01:32:32,693
Speaker 20: find the Horfbray House, which is that temple like beacon

1885
01:32:32,813 --> 01:32:38,413
Speaker 20: too Munich's beer tradition. This building was opened in fifteen

1886
01:32:38,693 --> 01:32:42,333
Speaker 20: eighty nine, so that's a lot of Laggers since fifteen

1887
01:32:42,413 --> 01:32:45,653
Speaker 20: eighty nine. Yeah, really good spot to feast on port

1888
01:32:45,733 --> 01:32:50,933
Speaker 20: knuckle and fantastic lager. The one thing, Jack, the more

1889
01:32:51,013 --> 01:32:54,333
Speaker 20: time I spent in Munich, the more noticeable it is

1890
01:32:54,453 --> 01:32:59,333
Speaker 20: that Munchners tend to regard themselves as barbarians first and

1891
01:32:59,533 --> 01:33:03,973
Speaker 20: German second. So like, yeah, it is a They are

1892
01:33:04,053 --> 01:33:07,933
Speaker 20: the richest state in Federal German Bavaria and they only

1893
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:10,253
Speaker 20: became part of Germany a century ago. So yeah, that's

1894
01:33:10,333 --> 01:33:14,213
Speaker 20: still got that quite zealous independent state of mind.

1895
01:33:14,493 --> 01:33:17,613
Speaker 3: That's curious, Okay, of course there is some dark history

1896
01:33:17,733 --> 01:33:19,773
Speaker 3: in that part of the wood is the birthplace of

1897
01:33:19,813 --> 01:33:24,133
Speaker 3: the Nazi Party. Does that kind of historical imprint Hitler's

1898
01:33:24,333 --> 01:33:26,333
Speaker 3: historical imprint still Linger in Munich.

1899
01:33:27,493 --> 01:33:29,853
Speaker 20: I struggled with this check because yes it does, and

1900
01:33:29,933 --> 01:33:33,693
Speaker 20: I actually think the city's soul is still somewhat restless

1901
01:33:34,013 --> 01:33:37,213
Speaker 20: about its legacy and the atrocities. The reason I say

1902
01:33:37,293 --> 01:33:40,213
Speaker 20: that is there are still a lot of Third Reich

1903
01:33:40,413 --> 01:33:44,173
Speaker 20: landmarks in the city. So you can still see the

1904
01:33:44,333 --> 01:33:48,173
Speaker 20: Fura building, which were Hitler's offices. That, by the way,

1905
01:33:48,293 --> 01:33:52,653
Speaker 20: is where he signed that infamous Munich agreement with nevill Chamberlain.

1906
01:33:53,253 --> 01:33:55,853
Speaker 20: And I was talking to some locals and they showed

1907
01:33:55,933 --> 01:34:00,973
Speaker 20: me the Eternal Flame to the Victims of Nazi persecution. Amazingly,

1908
01:34:01,573 --> 01:34:05,853
Speaker 20: that was only recently established because there had been years,

1909
01:34:05,933 --> 01:34:11,293
Speaker 20: in fact decades of local resistance to that memorial being installed.

1910
01:34:11,373 --> 01:34:15,133
Speaker 20: So yeah, I mean, well, what nearly eighty years since

1911
01:34:15,173 --> 01:34:18,613
Speaker 20: the end of the war and those ghosts are still there.

1912
01:34:18,933 --> 01:34:19,133
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1913
01:34:19,773 --> 01:34:23,293
Speaker 3: One of the most sobering experience must be a visit

1914
01:34:23,413 --> 01:34:25,933
Speaker 3: to one of the concentration camps and DAC hours close right.

1915
01:34:26,813 --> 01:34:29,893
Speaker 20: Oh man, It's incredibly close. It's only a twenty minute

1916
01:34:29,973 --> 01:34:32,413
Speaker 20: train ride away from central Munich and it is a

1917
01:34:32,813 --> 01:34:36,933
Speaker 20: very somber inflection point to a visit to Bavaria. This

1918
01:34:37,173 --> 01:34:40,693
Speaker 20: was the first concentration camp the Nazis established. In fact,

1919
01:34:40,733 --> 01:34:43,933
Speaker 20: at the time of the Berlin Games, the SS we're

1920
01:34:44,013 --> 01:34:47,413
Speaker 20: running their training school of violence. Add to Dark Hour,

1921
01:34:48,333 --> 01:34:51,853
Speaker 20: So the camp today it's been frozen in time, as

1922
01:34:52,213 --> 01:34:55,053
Speaker 20: was the wish of Dark Hour's survivors. So there were

1923
01:34:55,253 --> 01:34:58,293
Speaker 20: I think two hundred thousand people who were forcibly brought there.

1924
01:34:58,813 --> 01:35:01,973
Speaker 20: And you will see the barracks, the crematorium ovens with

1925
01:35:02,133 --> 01:35:05,013
Speaker 20: tens of thousands were laid to waste the gas chamber.

1926
01:35:05,453 --> 01:35:08,573
Speaker 20: It is powerful, it is shocking. But yeah, I just

1927
01:35:08,653 --> 01:35:11,533
Speaker 20: think since it is eighty years this year since the

1928
01:35:11,613 --> 01:35:14,653
Speaker 20: end of the war, these sorts of places still mester

1929
01:35:14,813 --> 01:35:16,453
Speaker 20: to us today, from.

1930
01:35:16,333 --> 01:35:20,653
Speaker 3: The horrific then to the fairy tale. What about Bavaria's castles.

1931
01:35:21,693 --> 01:35:25,733
Speaker 20: Oh, my goodness, you've got to see Noisch von Stein Castle.

1932
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:30,053
Speaker 20: It is the year round staff feature of Barbaria, and

1933
01:35:30,613 --> 01:35:34,253
Speaker 20: it's like walking into a brother's grim story book because

1934
01:35:34,253 --> 01:35:37,613
Speaker 20: it's sort of like peaks through the mountaintops like a

1935
01:35:37,733 --> 01:35:42,013
Speaker 20: misty mirage. And it was the brainchild of the Barbarian

1936
01:35:42,093 --> 01:35:46,413
Speaker 20: monarch Ludwig the Second. He was just obsessed by medieval

1937
01:35:46,533 --> 01:35:50,213
Speaker 20: knights in Wagner's theatrical operas, so that all was very

1938
01:35:50,293 --> 01:35:54,573
Speaker 20: much the inspiration for the interior content. You've got these

1939
01:35:55,413 --> 01:36:00,093
Speaker 20: enormous tapestries, the size of circus tents floored to sealing

1940
01:36:00,213 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 20: mosaics and frescoes, much of a showcasing scenes from Wagner's operas.

1941
01:36:05,533 --> 01:36:07,613
Speaker 20: And then of course on came walk doesn't he He

1942
01:36:07,733 --> 01:36:10,093
Speaker 20: took a look at noise Bonstein Castle and was quite

1943
01:36:10,173 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 20: inspired for the Sleeping Beauty Castle in Anaheim.

1944
01:36:13,613 --> 01:36:17,573
Speaker 3: Wow, So was he just eccentric or sort of completely mad?

1945
01:36:17,613 --> 01:36:17,973
Speaker 3: You reckon?

1946
01:36:18,973 --> 01:36:22,213
Speaker 20: I reckon moized? People think he was certifiable And there

1947
01:36:22,253 --> 01:36:25,533
Speaker 20: were just so many There were so many amazing stories

1948
01:36:25,573 --> 01:36:28,373
Speaker 20: about how Ludwig the Second lived. He would sleep during

1949
01:36:28,453 --> 01:36:31,253
Speaker 20: the day and at night he would get up apparently

1950
01:36:31,293 --> 01:36:33,093
Speaker 20: and order his servants to take him on a sleigh

1951
01:36:33,133 --> 01:36:36,933
Speaker 20: ride at two in the morning through the countryside. He

1952
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:40,933
Speaker 20: ate alone, but he always had a table set for

1953
01:36:41,053 --> 01:36:45,173
Speaker 20: four because he had three imaginary friends. And I love

1954
01:36:45,253 --> 01:36:48,773
Speaker 20: this one Jack. He would always have a horse dine

1955
01:36:48,813 --> 01:36:50,373
Speaker 20: with him at the banquet table.

1956
01:36:51,053 --> 01:36:52,093
Speaker 3: Of course, wouldn't you?

1957
01:36:52,173 --> 01:36:53,613
Speaker 12: So? Why not?

1958
01:36:53,973 --> 01:36:54,413
Speaker 6: Exactly?

1959
01:36:54,493 --> 01:36:54,533
Speaker 12: So?

1960
01:36:54,693 --> 01:36:59,573
Speaker 20: Yeah, he was quite unusual, and interestingly, the cabinet ministers

1961
01:36:59,613 --> 01:37:03,653
Speaker 20: of Bavaria had him declared medically insane. Just before his

1962
01:37:03,853 --> 01:37:06,653
Speaker 20: mysterious death in a lake back in the yard eighteen

1963
01:37:06,733 --> 01:37:08,773
Speaker 20: sixty So yeah, interesting story.

1964
01:37:08,893 --> 01:37:10,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a fascinating part of the world. Just so

1965
01:37:10,853 --> 01:37:13,533
Speaker 3: many kind of different elements to the to the culture

1966
01:37:13,573 --> 01:37:17,013
Speaker 3: and history and Munich and yeah, I've never been. I

1967
01:37:17,173 --> 01:37:19,293
Speaker 3: love to go And you've painted a rich picture this morning,

1968
01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:22,533
Speaker 3: so thank you. We'll have all the Mike's tips for

1969
01:37:22,773 --> 01:37:25,853
Speaker 3: tripping through Munich up on the News Talks hed B website.

1970
01:37:25,933 --> 01:37:29,893
Speaker 3: You know where to go before midday music from Tate

1971
01:37:30,093 --> 01:37:34,213
Speaker 3: Music Prize finalists ahead of Tuesday Nights Awards, plus that

1972
01:37:34,293 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 3: new book from Steve Williams. In a couple of minutes,

1973
01:37:36,133 --> 01:37:38,093
Speaker 3: we'll catch up with Jason Pine see what he's planning

1974
01:37:38,213 --> 01:37:39,133
Speaker 3: for weekend sport.

1975
01:37:42,893 --> 01:37:46,813
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1976
01:37:47,293 --> 01:37:48,333
Speaker 1: on News Talks B.

1977
01:38:06,093 --> 01:38:09,213
Speaker 3: This is Dangerous Day to Be a Cold One. It's

1978
01:38:09,253 --> 01:38:13,933
Speaker 3: by Wellington based band Darts D A R t Z. Funny.

1979
01:38:14,133 --> 01:38:16,253
Speaker 3: I feel like that song kind of been written in

1980
01:38:16,733 --> 01:38:20,973
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, like I said. The Wellington based they're

1981
01:38:20,973 --> 01:38:24,013
Speaker 3: nominated for a Take Music Prize for their album Dangerous

1982
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:25,893
Speaker 3: Day to Be a Cold One. Album by the same

1983
01:38:25,933 --> 01:38:28,373
Speaker 3: name of the song sure. Jason Pine has been to

1984
01:38:28,373 --> 01:38:30,533
Speaker 3: a few of their gigs over the years. He is

1985
01:38:31,093 --> 01:38:33,693
Speaker 3: with us for weekends for this afternoon, Kyonda Piney Yeah,

1986
01:38:33,733 --> 01:38:35,653
Speaker 3: normally working as a roadie for Dark Yes.

1987
01:38:35,853 --> 01:38:36,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1988
01:38:37,653 --> 01:38:39,013
Speaker 27: A dangerous day for a cold one.

1989
01:38:39,053 --> 01:38:42,133
Speaker 3: Indeed, a dangerous day to be a cold one. I think, Yes,

1990
01:38:42,333 --> 01:38:44,453
Speaker 3: that's a good I mean, I already quite like them

1991
01:38:44,493 --> 01:38:48,133
Speaker 3: from what I've heard. Hey, congratulations, So we've said all

1992
01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:50,293
Speaker 3: throughout this morning. It's a bit of an awards focused

1993
01:38:50,373 --> 01:38:53,533
Speaker 3: show this morning. So we started off with the winners

1994
01:38:53,573 --> 01:38:57,253
Speaker 3: from the Outstanding Food Producers Awards. We're gonna perform a day,

1995
01:38:57,333 --> 01:38:59,013
Speaker 3: have a look at some of the Take Music Prize

1996
01:38:59,053 --> 01:39:02,373
Speaker 3: Award finalists and Jason, you have been a finalist for

1997
01:39:02,413 --> 01:39:05,613
Speaker 3: about three hundred things and this year's Radio and Podcast

1998
01:39:07,093 --> 01:39:08,093
Speaker 3: thank you enter you as well.

1999
01:39:08,173 --> 01:39:08,333
Speaker 4: Jack.

2000
01:39:08,373 --> 01:39:11,173
Speaker 3: Look forward to celebrating with you on on awards night.

2001
01:39:11,213 --> 01:39:13,613
Speaker 27: Always fun to get to get a bit dressed up

2002
01:39:13,693 --> 01:39:16,093
Speaker 27: and mix and mingle with the glitterati.

2003
01:39:16,213 --> 01:39:18,853
Speaker 3: It's always a bit loose any other thing that thing

2004
01:39:18,893 --> 01:39:20,453
Speaker 3: I love about radio, it's always a bit loose to

2005
01:39:20,493 --> 01:39:21,253
Speaker 3: the Radio awards.

2006
01:39:21,293 --> 01:39:21,453
Speaker 12: You know.

2007
01:39:22,933 --> 01:39:25,133
Speaker 27: We make our yeah, we make our name through audio

2008
01:39:25,293 --> 01:39:27,013
Speaker 27: rather than the way we looked. I mean, you're you're

2009
01:39:27,013 --> 01:39:30,133
Speaker 27: an excited the rule, but I know, no, it'll be great.

2010
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:32,213
Speaker 27: They'll be great to celebrate with the rest of the industry.

2011
01:39:32,253 --> 01:39:35,213
Speaker 3: That's so much to discuss. So super rugby last night.

2012
01:39:35,813 --> 01:39:38,813
Speaker 3: Fantastic result for the Crusader's not so much the Canes,

2013
01:39:38,853 --> 01:39:40,973
Speaker 3: but a great game that last ten minutes in particular.

2014
01:39:41,373 --> 01:39:43,213
Speaker 3: I mean, as a Crusaders fan, it was a great game.

2015
01:39:44,333 --> 01:39:47,693
Speaker 3: The other way, I wouldn't be happy. Well, yeah, you go, No,

2016
01:39:47,813 --> 01:39:48,933
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I watched it.

2017
01:39:49,013 --> 01:39:51,373
Speaker 27: It's funny. I watched it through Hurricanes ice. You watched

2018
01:39:51,413 --> 01:39:53,493
Speaker 27: it through Crusaders ice. In the last ten minutes year,

2019
01:39:53,533 --> 01:39:55,653
Speaker 27: I just I kept on looking at the clock and

2020
01:39:55,773 --> 01:39:57,733
Speaker 27: it just seemed to be going faster than I hoped.

2021
01:39:57,853 --> 01:40:01,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted it to slow down. You probably wanted

2022
01:40:01,173 --> 01:40:02,573
Speaker 3: it to speed up. I just didn't think that. I

2023
01:40:02,613 --> 01:40:05,373
Speaker 3: didn't think the Hurricanes kind of managed that last ten

2024
01:40:05,373 --> 01:40:07,173
Speaker 3: minutes particularly well, kick the ball away?

2025
01:40:07,293 --> 01:40:07,813
Speaker 20: What are you doing?

2026
01:40:08,053 --> 01:40:08,213
Speaker 14: You know?

2027
01:40:08,373 --> 01:40:10,653
Speaker 27: Yeah, but then you look at the Crusaders and they

2028
01:40:10,693 --> 01:40:12,733
Speaker 27: had two men in the bin, didn't they And so

2029
01:40:12,813 --> 01:40:14,893
Speaker 27: you're right, you think, okay, well fifteen short out number

2030
01:40:14,933 --> 01:40:16,973
Speaker 27: thirteen If you move the ball through your hands, but

2031
01:40:17,173 --> 01:40:19,053
Speaker 27: you have to give it to the Crusaders in terms

2032
01:40:19,093 --> 01:40:21,693
Speaker 27: of the way they defended their line in that last

2033
01:40:21,773 --> 01:40:25,013
Speaker 27: ten minutes. You know, Rob Penny must be absolutely delighted.

2034
01:40:25,053 --> 01:40:26,893
Speaker 27: And then he got back to his hotel. I'm sure

2035
01:40:27,013 --> 01:40:29,973
Speaker 27: just in time to watch the warrantsars but the chiefs

2036
01:40:30,093 --> 01:40:32,093
Speaker 27: and so he wakes up this morning, I must say,

2037
01:40:32,093 --> 01:40:35,613
Speaker 27: on a beautiful Wellington morning, the table top of the table.

2038
01:40:35,693 --> 01:40:36,453
Speaker 20: What did you make of that?

2039
01:40:36,813 --> 01:40:38,773
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it wasn't anything too serious

2040
01:40:38,813 --> 01:40:42,813
Speaker 3: in the end, but that Will Jordan Ruben Love little tussle,

2041
01:40:43,013 --> 01:40:46,013
Speaker 3: I just washing. I was like, oh, man, because you know,

2042
01:40:46,173 --> 01:40:47,933
Speaker 3: Ruben Love kind of dived in and I don't think

2043
01:40:47,933 --> 01:40:50,413
Speaker 3: there was anything sinister in his intentions. He's just trying

2044
01:40:50,413 --> 01:40:52,373
Speaker 3: to save the ball from going dead. But he just

2045
01:40:52,493 --> 01:40:54,893
Speaker 3: kind of hit Will Jordan in the leg and I

2046
01:40:54,973 --> 01:40:56,773
Speaker 3: was like, oh, if he like if he took out

2047
01:40:56,813 --> 01:41:00,053
Speaker 3: his knee there, Yeah, that wouldn't that wouldn't have been good.

2048
01:41:00,253 --> 01:41:00,573
Speaker 2: I see.

2049
01:41:00,613 --> 01:41:02,293
Speaker 27: There was a bit of rhetoric online about it, but

2050
01:41:02,373 --> 01:41:05,613
Speaker 27: then there was also Ruben Love himself posted up, you know,

2051
01:41:05,653 --> 01:41:08,813
Speaker 27: a photo of him and Will Jordan in an embrace

2052
01:41:08,893 --> 01:41:11,453
Speaker 27: after the game. Saying you know, yeah, saying, look, it's

2053
01:41:11,453 --> 01:41:14,573
Speaker 27: all heat of the battle stuff. Look, they're intense competitors.

2054
01:41:14,613 --> 01:41:15,893
Speaker 27: You have to be to get to the top of

2055
01:41:15,973 --> 01:41:18,573
Speaker 27: your sport. And yeah, Rubin Love was just doing everything

2056
01:41:18,613 --> 01:41:20,573
Speaker 27: he could to try and stop that ball going dead.

2057
01:41:20,933 --> 01:41:24,333
Speaker 27: Wasn't able to. But yeah, look, and just on Will Jordan,

2058
01:41:24,413 --> 01:41:27,213
Speaker 27: by the way, I think we forget the influence that

2059
01:41:27,293 --> 01:41:30,053
Speaker 27: he has. He wasn't there at all last year. And yes,

2060
01:41:30,133 --> 01:41:32,613
Speaker 27: one guy doesn't make a team, but that guy makes

2061
01:41:32,653 --> 01:41:34,173
Speaker 27: the Crusaders so much better.

2062
01:41:34,293 --> 01:41:37,613
Speaker 3: He's what a player he is, he is remarkable. Totally

2063
01:41:37,653 --> 01:41:41,693
Speaker 3: agree with that. So Peter Berling splitting from Emirates Team

2064
01:41:41,733 --> 01:41:45,053
Speaker 3: New Zealand. This has taken quite a few people by surprise.

2065
01:41:45,133 --> 01:41:47,573
Speaker 3: I think, were you taken aback at this announcement?

2066
01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:48,613
Speaker 12: I was.

2067
01:41:48,893 --> 01:41:51,613
Speaker 27: I didn't expect it at all when the news came

2068
01:41:51,653 --> 01:41:54,533
Speaker 27: through yesterday. But then you start to ruminate on it

2069
01:41:54,573 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 27: and you think about it, and you think, okay, well,

2070
01:41:56,493 --> 01:41:59,413
Speaker 27: he has been around the America's Cup team for a

2071
01:41:59,533 --> 01:42:01,653
Speaker 27: long time, around Team Newsilla a long time. He's lifted

2072
01:42:01,693 --> 01:42:05,093
Speaker 27: the America's Cup three times, so maybe Peter Berlin thinks, well,

2073
01:42:05,093 --> 01:42:08,133
Speaker 27: I've been there and done that got sal GP, which

2074
01:42:08,493 --> 01:42:10,533
Speaker 27: you know, the Black Falls have been nowhere near as

2075
01:42:10,573 --> 01:42:14,613
Speaker 27: dominant in so he can only devote his energy to

2076
01:42:14,733 --> 01:42:17,613
Speaker 27: so many different things. He's got his family of course

2077
01:42:17,653 --> 01:42:21,813
Speaker 27: as well. He's involved in the Live Ocean set up too.

2078
01:42:22,013 --> 01:42:25,013
Speaker 27: So look, I feel as though he probably just sat

2079
01:42:25,053 --> 01:42:28,253
Speaker 27: there and thought something has to give, and it was

2080
01:42:28,293 --> 01:42:30,813
Speaker 27: the America's Cup that gave, if you know what I mean.

2081
01:42:30,933 --> 01:42:34,213
Speaker 27: So look, it presents a really interesting conundrum for Grant

2082
01:42:34,293 --> 01:42:40,253
Speaker 27: Dalton as he looks to move beyond Peter Berling. And look,

2083
01:42:41,533 --> 01:42:43,573
Speaker 27: you have to say, Peter Berlin one of our greatest

2084
01:42:43,613 --> 01:42:47,653
Speaker 27: ever sailors, and his legacy will be absolutely secure in

2085
01:42:47,693 --> 01:42:49,333
Speaker 27: the America's Cup. And it's not to say he won't

2086
01:42:49,373 --> 01:42:49,933
Speaker 27: come back one.

2087
01:42:49,893 --> 01:42:51,573
Speaker 3: Day, no, of course, of course. So what's on the

2088
01:42:51,613 --> 01:42:52,333
Speaker 3: show this stuff known?

2089
01:42:52,573 --> 01:42:54,413
Speaker 27: I want to get to Augusta. I want to talk

2090
01:42:54,413 --> 01:42:56,413
Speaker 27: to the Masters. Gee, honestly, you look at that on

2091
01:42:56,533 --> 01:42:57,573
Speaker 27: TV and you think, man, I've got.

2092
01:42:57,573 --> 01:42:58,773
Speaker 2: To get there at some stage.

2093
01:42:59,293 --> 01:42:59,733
Speaker 14: Have you been?

2094
01:42:59,813 --> 01:43:00,693
Speaker 3: Have you been to Walgusta?

2095
01:43:00,733 --> 01:43:00,773
Speaker 12: No?

2096
01:43:01,053 --> 01:43:02,813
Speaker 3: No, I haven't. Actually no, I sort of lived the

2097
01:43:02,893 --> 01:43:07,253
Speaker 3: Curious through our old friend Guy have ELT's eyes. Of course.

2098
01:43:07,573 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 3: Oh yes, he hit around there right now he had

2099
01:43:10,333 --> 01:43:11,973
Speaker 3: a pretty decent round from all accounts.

2100
01:43:12,133 --> 01:43:15,133
Speaker 27: He goes from ants anyway. I think he goes, you

2101
01:43:15,173 --> 01:43:16,893
Speaker 27: wouldn't want to stuff it up at Augusta, would you.

2102
01:43:16,973 --> 01:43:19,373
Speaker 27: But now we'll get over there and what does it

2103
01:43:19,413 --> 01:43:21,733
Speaker 27: take to win there? What does it take to play

2104
01:43:21,813 --> 01:43:25,253
Speaker 27: well there? Well, we'll find out. Steve Williams on the

2105
01:43:25,293 --> 01:43:27,573
Speaker 27: show and he's been doing the doing the rounds, but

2106
01:43:27,653 --> 01:43:30,413
Speaker 27: he's I'm talking to him specifically about Augusta this afternoon

2107
01:43:30,573 --> 01:43:32,333
Speaker 27: super Rabia course, But first time I want to talk

2108
01:43:32,333 --> 01:43:35,893
Speaker 27: about this idea of splitting our coaches in the Black Cats.

2109
01:43:36,213 --> 01:43:38,453
Speaker 27: Should we have a red ball coach and a white

2110
01:43:38,493 --> 01:43:40,653
Speaker 27: ball coach? Garrishtead says, I don't want to do it

2111
01:43:40,693 --> 01:43:42,573
Speaker 27: all anymore, but I will be the red ball coach.

2112
01:43:42,733 --> 01:43:44,933
Speaker 27: New Zealand Cricket haven't decided whether that's the track they

2113
01:43:44,973 --> 01:43:46,773
Speaker 27: want to go down yet, so we'll have you out

2114
01:43:46,813 --> 01:43:47,093
Speaker 27: about that.

2115
01:43:47,213 --> 01:43:48,013
Speaker 3: We'll cover off the rugby.

2116
01:43:48,093 --> 01:43:49,773
Speaker 27: Rob Penny's actually on the show after two o'clock so

2117
01:43:49,813 --> 01:43:53,053
Speaker 27: he can enjoy listening to his reflections. Jack of that

2118
01:43:53,173 --> 01:43:53,613
Speaker 27: one by his.

2119
01:43:53,653 --> 01:43:56,293
Speaker 3: Side, So I really do you know we were all

2120
01:43:56,413 --> 01:43:59,373
Speaker 3: absolutely just climbing into him last year? You know the

2121
01:43:59,453 --> 01:44:01,613
Speaker 3: media generally, I mean enjoy it. Why you're up? You know,

2122
01:44:02,453 --> 01:44:04,813
Speaker 3: I reckon why not? Very good looking forward to the show,

2123
01:44:04,853 --> 01:44:08,933
Speaker 3: So thank you. Jason Jain Whether the New Zealand radio

2124
01:44:08,973 --> 01:44:12,973
Speaker 3: and podcaster was finalist many times over. Jason Pine will

2125
01:44:13,013 --> 01:44:16,453
Speaker 3: be with us after midday with Weekend Sport. Before midday,

2126
01:44:16,533 --> 01:44:21,133
Speaker 3: we've got that Take Music Prize Award finalists little selection

2127
01:44:21,293 --> 01:44:21,813
Speaker 3: to play for you.

2128
01:44:22,053 --> 01:44:25,493
Speaker 1: Twenty two to twelve Saturday Morning with Jack Team Folk

2129
01:44:25,573 --> 01:44:29,133
Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

2130
01:44:29,253 --> 01:44:31,973
Speaker 3: Ed B nineteen to twelve on News Talks. He'd be

2131
01:44:32,133 --> 01:44:35,333
Speaker 3: Cats and Rains has two great reads for us this weekend.

2132
01:44:36,173 --> 01:44:39,253
Speaker 3: Calder Catherine Morning, Jack. Let's go through your books and

2133
01:44:39,293 --> 01:44:41,853
Speaker 3: we'll begin with the one by Steve William's given all

2134
01:44:41,973 --> 01:44:45,653
Speaker 3: Eyes are on the Masters this week together, we roared.

2135
01:44:46,493 --> 01:44:50,013
Speaker 25: Yeah, so as perfect if you're watching Augusta this weekend,

2136
01:44:50,613 --> 01:44:53,053
Speaker 25: and it focuses on Steve Williams a little bit on

2137
01:44:53,373 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 25: you know, why he chose to become a caddie caddy

2138
01:44:56,653 --> 01:44:59,093
Speaker 25: and very early on this is something that he realized

2139
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Speaker 25: that he wanted to do. And it talks about a

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01:45:01,613 --> 01:45:04,333
Speaker 25: little bit about Greg Norman and Raymond Floyd and then obviously,

2141
01:45:04,613 --> 01:45:08,493
Speaker 25: you know, he joins Tiger Woods firstly in the bay

2142
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Speaker 25: Hill Invalitational in Orlando back in March nineteen ninety nine,

2143
01:45:12,173 --> 01:45:14,413
Speaker 25: and Woods didn't ready to play that well. In fact,

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Speaker 25: Williams has been quoted as saying that that was one

2145
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Speaker 25: of the shots, was the worst that he'd ever seen

2146
01:45:20,133 --> 01:45:23,413
Speaker 25: Tiger play. But actually that's how they actually kind of

2147
01:45:23,533 --> 01:45:27,613
Speaker 25: almost bonded over that because after the tournament he basically

2148
01:45:27,693 --> 01:45:29,773
Speaker 25: told him that and told him he was overrated. And

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Speaker 25: I think it reflects both of their personalities and their

2150
01:45:31,973 --> 01:45:34,773
Speaker 25: quite dry sense as of humor. And then yeah, he

2151
01:45:34,933 --> 01:45:37,013
Speaker 25: became that caddy and there's this journey over the next

2152
01:45:37,053 --> 01:45:39,613
Speaker 25: twelve years and you know he was obviously Woods was

2153
01:45:39,653 --> 01:45:43,733
Speaker 25: anything but overrated, and they claimed thirteen major championships together.

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Speaker 25: But it talks about and it's not so much about Woods,

2155
01:45:46,813 --> 01:45:49,053
Speaker 25: but it talks about the caddy's point of view and

2156
01:45:49,173 --> 01:45:52,253
Speaker 25: that look into the partnership and you know, how Woods operates,

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01:45:52,253 --> 01:45:54,693
Speaker 25: as well as some personal things that Williams has probably

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01:45:54,773 --> 01:45:56,933
Speaker 25: not talked about before. But lots of things are in

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01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:59,893
Speaker 25: the book that you have already been talked about. But

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01:46:00,093 --> 01:46:02,973
Speaker 25: it's a really good insight to how good that pairing

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01:46:03,053 --> 01:46:06,013
Speaker 25: really was, and how much a golfer really relies on

2162
01:46:06,173 --> 01:46:09,413
Speaker 25: the caddy and what Steve Williams's characters like. And it

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01:46:09,533 --> 01:46:11,853
Speaker 25: does go into some very extensive detail on the various

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01:46:11,853 --> 01:46:14,373
Speaker 25: tournaments and the events they participated in, you know, the

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01:46:14,453 --> 01:46:16,773
Speaker 25: decisions they make over critical holes and that sort of

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01:46:16,813 --> 01:46:19,693
Speaker 25: joy and disappointment of what happened in those and much

2167
01:46:19,813 --> 01:46:22,253
Speaker 25: less about the personal aspect. It's not about the drama

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01:46:22,413 --> 01:46:25,933
Speaker 25: and the gossips. That's quite flattering towards in a sense,

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Speaker 25: but it also doesn't overplay, you know, Williams's role in

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Speaker 25: how great Tiger was as a golfer. So yeah, I

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01:46:32,533 --> 01:46:35,293
Speaker 25: mean to the non golf in officiado, there's some really

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01:46:35,413 --> 01:46:37,893
Speaker 25: interesting things into those insights about the caddy, but I

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01:46:38,013 --> 01:46:39,933
Speaker 25: would almost say this is probably a golfer is a

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01:46:39,973 --> 01:46:42,973
Speaker 25: fishinadio book, because yeah, when they talk about the holes

2175
01:46:43,013 --> 01:46:45,413
Speaker 25: and things like that, if it's if you're not into golf,

2176
01:46:45,533 --> 01:46:47,373
Speaker 25: that's probably not your jam, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Very good, Okay, cool, that's together. We Roared by Steve

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Speaker 3: Williams and even priest. Next up Broken Country by clear

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Speaker 3: Leslie Hall.

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Speaker 25: So this is set in a very small farming village

2181
01:46:58,133 --> 01:47:02,053
Speaker 25: a place called Hempstead in the Dulstic countryside in southwest England,

2182
01:47:02,253 --> 01:47:05,373
Speaker 25: and the two characters, Gabrielle Wolf and Beth fell in

2183
01:47:05,453 --> 01:47:08,813
Speaker 25: love during the summer nineteen ninety nineteen fifty five sorry,

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01:47:09,173 --> 01:47:11,093
Speaker 25: and he was her first love and he broke her

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01:47:11,173 --> 01:47:14,493
Speaker 25: heart and she ends up marrying Frank, a local farmer,

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01:47:14,573 --> 01:47:18,933
Speaker 25: and Gabrielle moves away and marries an American and soon

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01:47:19,653 --> 01:47:21,613
Speaker 25: a few years later in nineteen sixty eight, after divorcing

2188
01:47:21,653 --> 01:47:23,733
Speaker 25: his wife, Gabrielle returns to the village with a sudden

2189
01:47:23,853 --> 01:47:26,973
Speaker 25: Leo and reminds Beth of her son Bobby, who died

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01:47:27,053 --> 01:47:29,173
Speaker 25: not long ago in a tragic accident. And she's quite

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01:47:29,253 --> 01:47:32,573
Speaker 25: drawn into Gabrielle and Leo's lives from an incident that

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01:47:32,653 --> 01:47:35,853
Speaker 25: happens on the farm and these events trigger things that

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Speaker 25: change in both their lives. And you know very from

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Speaker 25: the very opening of the book that someone has been

2195
01:47:42,253 --> 01:47:45,013
Speaker 25: murdered and someone's on trial and you don't know who,

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01:47:45,693 --> 01:47:49,013
Speaker 25: and you sense this love triangle forming between Beth and

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01:47:49,133 --> 01:47:52,453
Speaker 25: Frank and Gabrielle, and the two timelines go back to

2198
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Speaker 25: nineteen fifty five and the story of Beth and Gabrielle

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01:47:55,693 --> 01:47:58,493
Speaker 25: and their love life is teenagers and he leaves to

2200
01:47:58,533 --> 01:48:00,773
Speaker 25: go to college and she finds out about another girl.

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Speaker 25: To nineteen sixty eight, and you know her life with Frank,

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01:48:04,613 --> 01:48:07,893
Speaker 25: who's this really lovely farmer, and how their son Bobby

2203
01:48:08,053 --> 01:48:10,093
Speaker 25: died in a tragic accident, and you get to see

2204
01:48:10,213 --> 01:48:12,773
Speaker 25: the mistakes and the lies and the heartache. So it's

2205
01:48:12,813 --> 01:48:14,693
Speaker 25: a family story as well as a love story. And

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01:48:14,733 --> 01:48:18,293
Speaker 25: it's mainly told from the perspective of Beth, and yet

2207
01:48:18,413 --> 01:48:21,693
Speaker 25: has this very interesting feel about It's quite distant and reflective,

2208
01:48:22,373 --> 01:48:24,933
Speaker 25: and these very short chapters, and the characters in the

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01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:28,853
Speaker 25: book are really interesting, and their relationships are and from

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01:48:28,893 --> 01:48:30,773
Speaker 25: all of the things that happen on the farm, and

2211
01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:33,573
Speaker 25: these two timelines and the themes and the choices and

2212
01:48:33,613 --> 01:48:36,813
Speaker 25: the consequences of those choices just makes a really interesting,

2213
01:48:36,893 --> 01:48:37,933
Speaker 25: quite reflective novel.

2214
01:48:38,133 --> 01:48:41,413
Speaker 3: Nice okay, cool. That's Broken Country by clear Leslie Hall

2215
01:48:41,453 --> 01:48:44,413
Speaker 3: and Catherine's first book was Together We Roared by Steve Williams.

2216
01:48:44,813 --> 01:48:46,493
Speaker 3: Jason Fine is going to be talking to Steve Williams

2217
01:48:46,533 --> 01:48:48,573
Speaker 3: this afternoon on weekend. Supports to stick around for that.

2218
01:48:48,973 --> 01:48:51,573
Speaker 26: Right now, it's quarter to twelve, giving you the inside

2219
01:48:51,653 --> 01:48:54,293
Speaker 26: Scoop on All You Need to Us Saturday Mornings with

2220
01:48:54,453 --> 01:48:57,493
Speaker 26: Jack Dame and Bpure dot co dot nz for high

2221
01:48:57,613 --> 01:48:59,693
Speaker 26: quality supplements used talks that'd be.

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01:49:17,893 --> 01:49:23,733
Speaker 3: Versus Cartarehe by Anna Coddington. Anna was nominated for a

2223
01:49:23,933 --> 01:49:28,773
Speaker 3: Tate Music Prize twenty twenty five for her album Miha

2224
01:49:29,173 --> 01:49:32,533
Speaker 3: and the song is the album open Opener as Tale Clifford,

2225
01:49:32,613 --> 01:49:35,533
Speaker 3: our music viewer is counting down to Tuesday night in

2226
01:49:35,613 --> 01:49:36,693
Speaker 3: the awards and she's with us.

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01:49:36,733 --> 01:49:40,413
Speaker 28: Now, I killeda There's a lot to celebrate Kyoder. Yeah,

2228
01:49:40,693 --> 01:49:43,253
Speaker 28: music scene and I and I love this. I'm sure

2229
01:49:43,253 --> 01:49:45,213
Speaker 28: you've already mentioned a bit of history on the Tates

2230
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:46,053
Speaker 28: Music Prize.

2231
01:49:46,693 --> 01:49:49,293
Speaker 3: Well only a little bit, So just do what I

2232
01:49:49,373 --> 01:49:50,933
Speaker 3: said that it's not I said, it's kind of the

2233
01:49:51,013 --> 01:49:53,413
Speaker 3: Muso's Prize, you know, it is.

2234
01:49:53,413 --> 01:49:57,213
Speaker 28: Actually the Muso's Prize. Independent Music end Z is where

2235
01:49:57,253 --> 01:50:01,173
Speaker 28: it comes from. They created these awards in honor of

2236
01:50:01,253 --> 01:50:04,173
Speaker 28: Dylan Tate. Now, he was a really prolific music journo

2237
01:50:04,293 --> 01:50:07,293
Speaker 28: for us, probably in the seventies, was quite berg and eighties,

2238
01:50:08,693 --> 01:50:12,813
Speaker 28: had this real deep passion for music and entertainment and

2239
01:50:13,213 --> 01:50:15,853
Speaker 28: all artists. But I think in particular he really helped

2240
01:50:15,853 --> 01:50:19,253
Speaker 28: shine a light on our local artists, because a lot

2241
01:50:19,293 --> 01:50:23,253
Speaker 28: of our local artists do have that independent vibe about

2242
01:50:23,253 --> 01:50:25,493
Speaker 28: them and releasing their music into the world. And I

2243
01:50:25,533 --> 01:50:27,693
Speaker 28: think he really shone a light on that. He was

2244
01:50:27,733 --> 01:50:29,933
Speaker 28: the kind of guy that would chase chase an artist,

2245
01:50:30,053 --> 01:50:32,333
Speaker 28: you know, like Bob Marley's like, no thank you to

2246
01:50:32,413 --> 01:50:36,093
Speaker 28: any interviews when he's in Altiora. So Dylan Tate goes

2247
01:50:36,133 --> 01:50:38,253
Speaker 28: and plays soccer on a field with him and some kids,

2248
01:50:38,693 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 28: and before you know it, they're kind of like sideline

2249
01:50:41,413 --> 01:50:42,533
Speaker 28: sort of doing an interview.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the legendary Dylan stories.

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01:50:47,373 --> 01:50:49,693
Speaker 28: It absolutely is. And then I love that because I

2252
01:50:49,733 --> 01:50:51,653
Speaker 28: think it just sums it up real fast in the

2253
01:50:51,773 --> 01:50:54,133
Speaker 28: kind of style that he had, Like it didn't have

2254
01:50:54,293 --> 01:50:57,613
Speaker 28: to be clean and perfectly edited and put together. It

2255
01:50:57,773 --> 01:51:00,173
Speaker 28: was a chance to really just be with that artist

2256
01:51:00,333 --> 01:51:02,693
Speaker 28: and whatever kind of way you could capture them. And

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01:51:02,853 --> 01:51:04,973
Speaker 28: sometimes you get the best stories out of those people

2258
01:51:05,413 --> 01:51:07,613
Speaker 28: when you're doing that kind of sort of chased you down,

2259
01:51:07,933 --> 01:51:09,853
Speaker 28: come on, let's just chat about life sort of thing.

2260
01:51:10,893 --> 01:51:13,213
Speaker 28: And our key we artists are great at that, you know,

2261
01:51:13,413 --> 01:51:16,213
Speaker 28: like they are really good at sharing their heart and

2262
01:51:16,373 --> 01:51:19,253
Speaker 28: also being a bit off cuff sometimes and I love that.

2263
01:51:19,493 --> 01:51:22,893
Speaker 28: So so these are put together. There's a judging panel

2264
01:51:22,973 --> 01:51:25,613
Speaker 28: that is put together of music industry professionals, so it'll

2265
01:51:25,613 --> 01:51:29,333
Speaker 28: be the musicians themselves, writers, producers, all that sort of stuff.

2266
01:51:29,453 --> 01:51:32,413
Speaker 28: Is about over a thousand of them that first choose

2267
01:51:33,173 --> 01:51:35,573
Speaker 28: some finalists for the categories, and then that gets whittled

2268
01:51:35,613 --> 01:51:38,213
Speaker 28: down with a with a smaller judging panel till we

2269
01:51:38,333 --> 01:51:40,773
Speaker 28: get to the to get to the winners. And we

2270
01:51:40,893 --> 01:51:43,213
Speaker 28: do celebrate those big things, so the big albums and

2271
01:51:43,333 --> 01:51:45,693
Speaker 28: artists who are already doing the work. But there's also

2272
01:51:45,893 --> 01:51:49,853
Speaker 28: the part here where it's sponsored by Auckland Live the

2273
01:51:49,933 --> 01:51:54,413
Speaker 28: Best Independent Debut Awards. So this is our very new

2274
01:51:54,653 --> 01:51:57,053
Speaker 28: artists just sort of discovering their way in the world

2275
01:51:57,133 --> 01:51:59,773
Speaker 28: and getting you know, some some tunes out there.

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01:51:59,853 --> 01:52:01,093
Speaker 9: There's some for me.

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01:52:01,213 --> 01:52:02,813
Speaker 28: It's a really great way to learn some of our

2278
01:52:02,853 --> 01:52:06,853
Speaker 28: new upcoming artists. And we just cover all spectrums of genres,

2279
01:52:06,853 --> 01:52:09,653
Speaker 28: which I think is amazing. Vida is an artist who

2280
01:52:09,733 --> 01:52:13,413
Speaker 28: stands out to me, a Tommocky based artist who's got

2281
01:52:13,453 --> 01:52:18,333
Speaker 28: this like soulful jazz voice then put to like a

2282
01:52:18,493 --> 01:52:24,093
Speaker 28: pop rock funk kind of music. It's a lot unpacked,

2283
01:52:24,133 --> 01:52:27,813
Speaker 28: but it's really interesting to listen to. Billy Jean is

2284
01:52:27,853 --> 01:52:30,653
Speaker 28: another amazing artist. If you can listen to her single

2285
01:52:30,733 --> 01:52:34,293
Speaker 28: running a Muk. She is a Maori artist and she

2286
01:52:34,493 --> 01:52:38,733
Speaker 28: really delves into her connection to her Malori heritage and

2287
01:52:38,773 --> 01:52:42,333
Speaker 28: her music and sometimes it's this really beautiful acoustic sort

2288
01:52:42,333 --> 01:52:44,773
Speaker 28: of magic, and then she gets into some real electronic

2289
01:52:44,853 --> 01:52:47,933
Speaker 28: grit as well. So if you're looking for newbies and

2290
01:52:47,933 --> 01:52:50,213
Speaker 28: who's coming out on the scene, you know, that's a

2291
01:52:50,293 --> 01:52:52,053
Speaker 28: really good place to go and find them out. So

2292
01:52:52,613 --> 01:52:54,933
Speaker 28: good luck to the people in that category. I don't

2293
01:52:54,933 --> 01:52:56,293
Speaker 28: know how they choose their winners, what they do.

2294
01:52:56,493 --> 01:52:58,693
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the top teen, the top ten

2295
01:52:58,773 --> 01:53:02,413
Speaker 3: albums that are the finalists. The Anna Collington one we

2296
01:53:02,533 --> 01:53:04,013
Speaker 3: just played, so you gave that ten out of teen.

2297
01:53:04,053 --> 01:53:06,733
Speaker 3: Last year Delay David, you played before You get eeen

2298
01:53:06,773 --> 01:53:09,333
Speaker 3: oueen last year Troy for Lea, the Man in the

2299
01:53:09,373 --> 01:53:11,413
Speaker 3: Mahave Green, we had Troy on the shows. I feel

2300
01:53:11,453 --> 01:53:13,333
Speaker 3: like this show has actually done a lot to enable

2301
01:53:13,453 --> 01:53:15,253
Speaker 3: you know, some of these top artists in the top

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01:53:15,293 --> 01:53:17,213
Speaker 3: Prize exactly.

2303
01:53:16,773 --> 01:53:18,893
Speaker 28: If we can give them some space, there's others. So

2304
01:53:19,053 --> 01:53:22,933
Speaker 28: again we've got like this dangerous day to be a

2305
01:53:23,013 --> 01:53:28,493
Speaker 28: cold one. That's by a band called Darts. Yeah, quite

2306
01:53:28,573 --> 01:53:33,573
Speaker 28: furious and fun earth tongue album called Great Haunting. That's

2307
01:53:33,573 --> 01:53:37,093
Speaker 28: a very fuzz rock sort of fuzz rock jooey sort

2308
01:53:37,093 --> 01:53:40,533
Speaker 28: of sound. They're also partners in life as well as

2309
01:53:40,573 --> 01:53:42,853
Speaker 28: in music, so putting their heart and soul into that.

2310
01:53:43,413 --> 01:53:47,413
Speaker 28: Amelia Murray goes by the artists Phaser Days, which is

2311
01:53:47,453 --> 01:53:48,133
Speaker 28: an indie pop.

2312
01:53:48,373 --> 01:53:48,613
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2313
01:53:48,973 --> 01:53:52,133
Speaker 28: That was actually Rolling Stone's number one KII album last year,

2314
01:53:52,213 --> 01:53:53,893
Speaker 28: so that's had a lot of coverage, which is great.

2315
01:53:54,493 --> 01:53:57,133
Speaker 28: Georgia Lines, I mean, she has done a massive tour

2316
01:53:57,293 --> 01:54:00,293
Speaker 28: over the last few months, the Rows of Jericho. She's

2317
01:54:00,413 --> 01:54:03,773
Speaker 28: very talented, she's very funny, fun person to be around,

2318
01:54:03,973 --> 01:54:07,853
Speaker 28: and that's a beautiful album. Holy Holly Aerosmith has gone

2319
01:54:07,853 --> 01:54:10,653
Speaker 28: an album called Blue Dreams Now. She won the Best

2320
01:54:10,693 --> 01:54:14,413
Speaker 28: Country Music Song at the Country Music's Awards in Goa

2321
01:54:14,533 --> 01:54:17,373
Speaker 28: last year for one of her singles, and that's the

2322
01:54:17,413 --> 01:54:19,693
Speaker 28: album that's been nominated, so you know, she's a bit

2323
01:54:19,733 --> 01:54:22,973
Speaker 28: of a standout. Mel Parsons who toured with Crowded House

2324
01:54:23,773 --> 01:54:26,853
Speaker 28: with her album Sabotage, she's also a finalist. She's also

2325
01:54:27,533 --> 01:54:32,613
Speaker 28: just being announced as an altro music Awards finalist and

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01:54:32,733 --> 01:54:37,653
Speaker 28: then finally more Caltron is the album. This is like

2327
01:54:38,053 --> 01:54:42,733
Speaker 28: an electronic music, like real heavy beats, but again with

2328
01:54:42,853 --> 01:54:46,693
Speaker 28: that kind of spiritual Mardi here such a range.

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01:54:46,813 --> 01:54:49,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we're almost going to I know this is

2330
01:54:49,693 --> 01:54:53,013
Speaker 3: the impossible thing. How that's not our job. There's your job.

2331
01:54:55,733 --> 01:54:55,973
Speaker 12: Okay.

2332
01:54:56,453 --> 01:54:58,933
Speaker 28: My pick is either and I love all of you,

2333
01:54:59,093 --> 01:55:02,053
Speaker 28: but Anna Cloddington or Troy. I think the ones.

2334
01:55:01,893 --> 01:55:03,893
Speaker 3: Who take this out can't wait.

2335
01:55:04,173 --> 01:55:05,453
Speaker 28: It's going to be a big day on Tuesday.

2336
01:55:06,053 --> 01:55:07,533
Speaker 3: It's gonna massive. Thank you so much.

2337
01:55:07,733 --> 01:55:08,053
Speaker 4: I reckon.

2338
01:55:08,093 --> 01:55:09,853
Speaker 3: We'll play Troy in a couple of minutes to close

2339
01:55:09,893 --> 01:55:12,293
Speaker 3: out the show. Still clipping with us there right now

2340
01:55:12,293 --> 01:55:14,293
Speaker 3: at seven to twelve, a.

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Speaker 2: Cracking way to start your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day and vpure dot co dot

2343
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Speaker 1: z for high quality supplements, News Talks EDB five to.

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Speaker 3: Twelve on News Talks EDB, which means I'm about to

2345
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Speaker 3: get kicked out of here. Jason Pine is behind the

2346
01:55:27,933 --> 01:55:32,013
Speaker 3: mic this afternoon for Weekend Sport. For everything from our show,

2347
01:55:32,453 --> 01:55:35,373
Speaker 3: go to News Talks EDB dot co dot nz Ford

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Speaker 3: slash Jack. It's where we put up all of the

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Speaker 3: recipes we share on the show, our recommendations for TV

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Speaker 3: shows to watch, your stream, movie picks, book picks. All

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Speaker 3: that good stuff goes up on the website. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough stuff. We

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Speaker 3: are gonna leave you ahead of the Tait Music Prize

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Speaker 3: Awards on Tuesday nights with one of the finalists for

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Speaker 3: Best Album this year, Troy Kingey is doing his ten

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Speaker 3: ten to ten project. Of course, this is from Leatherman

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Speaker 3: and the Mohavey Green that's called Cactus and Jake see

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Speaker 3: you next week.

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Speaker 20: And I lost the fight.

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Speaker 2: And I realized how empty my life reeling was.

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Speaker 20: You're gonna show me how to.

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Speaker 12: Ji life is better.

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Speaker 20: With the life

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

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Speaker 1: to news Talks it'd be from nine am Saturday, or

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