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Speaker 2: Good morning, it has just gone six after five. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to your Tuesday morning news Dog said, be great to

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Speaker 2: have your company this morning. We're going to talk treaty

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Speaker 2: Basically at issue is the government sovereign in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the eighth of October. The one year

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Speaker 3: A year ago.

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Speaker 2: We suffered a terrible blow.

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Speaker 4: In the past twelve months, we are changing the reality

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Speaker 2: Two Chinese nationals have died and at least ten people

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Speaker 2: southeast United States bracing for another major hurricane. Milton is

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Speaker 2: With Milton and a new research out this morning, an

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Speaker 2: Eight after five.

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with

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Speaker 1: applying store new Talk.

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Speaker 2: Said be well don't we already have that botox slows

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Speaker 2: the aging process. Our new research out this morning, also

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Speaker 2: this is research about the media during the COVID pandemic.

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Speaker 2: And remember there was subsidies, there was direct cash in

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Speaker 2: the Public Interest Journalism Fund paid to media private media companies.

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Speaker 2: This research has found, oh, actually there were some unintended

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Speaker 2: negative consequences as a result of that. Really, so what

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes after five. Great to have you with me

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Speaker 2: Statistic Good morning.

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Speaker 2: First of all, do you think aggressive cuts like that

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Speaker 2: Let's look at your regional roundup, HOSTPO, retail bad, Wellington bad.

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Speaker 7: What we're hearing is that very few firms are looking

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Speaker 2: Zaid be Milton. The hurricane that's heading towards Florida in

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Speaker 2: Obviously they've been dealing with the fallout from Hurricane Helene

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Speaker 2: So TVNZ's one News website is set to be cut

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me that costs thirty million dollars to

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Speaker 2: This idea of putting video content on their at news

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Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's

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Speaker 9: News Talk zibby, good morning, it is twenty four minutes

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Speaker 2: You're on news Talk, said be great to have your

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Speaker 2: Is it because they're stupid? It's not very nice. Donald

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Speaker 2: I know it's a bit far in the future, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: this still, says Penny Penny. Thanks for your message, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Of course the media was complicit, TV and ZE radio

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Speaker 2: twenty two minutes away from six News talks the'b Brian Bridge.

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Speaker 2: We're going to our reporters around the country and we're

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Speaker 3: Look, Prime Minister Christopher Luxe and visited Dunedin yesterday and

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Speaker 2: This protest after.

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Speaker 2: Even the mayor was protesting. Him and fellow counselors.

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Speaker 3: the Bullet Declaration today stating our health systems in crisis.

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Speaker 2: All right, and your weather today, your health system not great,

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Speaker 2: But how's your weather looking? Yeah? Look better?

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Speaker 3: Another good data for the city to dry out. Find

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Speaker 3: today one or two afternoon showers, northerly, strong and exposed

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Speaker 2: Right, come, thank you for that. Clear and christ Church clear,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. So these buses, the public transport

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Speaker 10: Look, this has all been bubbling around here just for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is too clear. Your weather today a.

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Speaker 10: Really foggy start here in christ Church. The northwesterlies will

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you Max's and Wellington. Hey Max, your

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Speaker 12: the strongest in New Zealand actually in over a year.

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Speaker 13: And you only scored it an oh as you're with

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Speaker 13: it today, Hi, cloudy until rain this evening some very

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Speaker 13: strong more still he's fifteen the high in the city.

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Speaker 2: Next neighvas and nevers tough as an e Mac. Yes,

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Speaker 2: who needs a director scale when you've got mac? That's right?

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Speaker 2: Telling me about the flood clean up. This is a

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Speaker 2: milestone for or Con Transport.

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Speaker 11: It is for eighty So this is the cleanup from

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Speaker 11: last year's anniversary weekend flood. So the Transport agency says

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Speaker 11: it's now completed. Can you believe it? Ninety percent of

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Speaker 11: repairs so that's the major milestone. So I can tell

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Speaker 11: you that it's spent about two hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 11: million dollars on flood repairs. This includes fixing about three

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Speaker 11: thousand sites, so that includes one hundred and eighteen major slips.

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Speaker 11: Murray boot he's the infrastructure director. He says, look, we've

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Speaker 11: got one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars left and

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Speaker 11: we've got two hundred sites still to repair. He reckons that,

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Speaker 11: look that they're on track to stay within budget. Do

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Speaker 11: you believe it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 11: I agree with you because he's said that. You know, look,

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Speaker 11: they've got challenging repairs still ahead of them.

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Speaker 7: So let's see.

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Speaker 11: Let's see what happened.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather today, Neva.

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Speaker 11: We've got morning evening cloud otherwise fine, no rain today.

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Speaker 2: Yay yay now high ninety, thank you very much. It

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Speaker 2: has just gone seventeen minutes away from six News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Therebb lots of feedback on Dunedin. Andrew says, Ryan, way

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Speaker 2: too much virtue signaling from Dunedin on this. Someone else

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Speaker 2: has to pay for that hospital. Three billion dollars too much.

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Speaker 1: You're on Newstalk's EBB International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 1: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Selba come what's your house worth? And also the treaty

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Speaker 2: debate which is taking place tonight. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in a second right now, fourteen away from six and

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Speaker 2: Donod tomorrow is our Australia correspondent Donna. The Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberani haz Haing spoken to a vigil marking the

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Speaker 2: anniversary of October seven.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he attended a vigil where about seven thousand people gathered,

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Speaker 4: some lanterns will let and obviously a lot of reflection

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Speaker 4: was made on what happened on October seven. But interestingly

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister didn't speak at the event and there

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Speaker 4: was a little bit of in fact, some people were

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Speaker 4: saying shame as he attended this gathering. But earlier in

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Speaker 4: the day Anthony Abaneze did issue a video message and

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Speaker 4: he did say it was a moment to reflect on

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Speaker 4: the horrific terrost atrocity and yet he holds hope that

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Speaker 4: peace for all is possible, and he said the first

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Speaker 4: anniversary will carry terrible pain, including for the families of

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Speaker 4: those hostages that and he declared sorrow knows no boundaries

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Speaker 4: and recognizes no differences. Interestingly, he also talked about the

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Speaker 4: fact that since the atrocities of October seven, as he

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Speaker 4: put a Jewish Australians have felt the cold shadow of

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Speaker 4: anti Semitism reaching into present day.

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Speaker 2: Is that a bit weird that he didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he releases a video message, but doesn't she speak at

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Speaker 2: the vigil?

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Speaker 4: It is interesting. Meantime, about ten thousand people gathered in

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Speaker 4: Sydney at a commemorative event, a vigil, and the Opposition

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Speaker 4: leader was actually heard just to say that a moral

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Speaker 4: fog had descended on Australia. And apparently there were cheers

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Speaker 4: for Bete Dunden who did the opositionally diet my dad

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Speaker 4: who did speak.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Speak for all Australians, but it was an interesting decision

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Speaker 4: for the PM not to speak last night.

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Speaker 2: I certainly was Johnna, thank you very much for that update.

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Speaker 2: Don and Demo our Australia correspondent with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge. Big debate coming

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Speaker 2: tonight on the Treaty Principles builders as David Seymour's topic,

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Speaker 2: Djuur and he will be taking on the Nazi Tower

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Speaker 2: chief executive Helmet Modlick. They'll go head to head in

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Speaker 2: a public debate. It will take place at eight pm

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Speaker 2: this evening. It's been live streamed on all sorts of

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Speaker 2: different platforms, and Helmet Modlick is with us this morning. Helmet.

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Speaker 2: Some say we shouldn't be debating the treaty. That is

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Speaker 2: a very strong line coming from the lights of the party. Mardi.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean you disagree we do need the debate.

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Speaker 6: I agree entirely that we should have a debate, which

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Speaker 6: is why I've made myself available to participate in it.

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Speaker 6: What I was discomfited by was the lack of substantive

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Speaker 6: information and thought exchange. We were only getting, you know,

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Speaker 6: curated sound bite versions of one position. And so yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to the debate and welcome it.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of tapaty Marii's approach to this,

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Speaker 2: which has been to throw words like genocide and white

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Speaker 2: supremacists out there. What's your take on their stance.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't speak for to party Maori, of course,

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Speaker 6: but what I do know is that the historical record

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Speaker 6: of the harm that has occurred in the Mali community

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Speaker 6: as a consequence of breaches of they to await Tonguey

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Speaker 6: are hard to overstate, and in fact that my memory

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Speaker 6: shaves me right. I believe the word genocide was originally

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Speaker 6: used by the white Tonguy tribunal connection with the harm

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Speaker 6: that resulted to the Taranaki people as a consequence of breaches.

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Speaker 6: So I understand the feeling, I understand the language, I

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Speaker 6: understand the passion, and there's no avoid at this point

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Speaker 6: in our history, though, I think the time for us

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Speaker 6: is here, is for us to exchange ideas about to

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Speaker 6: go forward.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this sounds promising. This sounds like you're going to

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Speaker 2: have a robust discussion. Do you you've seen that, You've

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Speaker 2: seen that the principles that the government has put forward,

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Speaker 2: David Siemil's put forward. You know, the government has the

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Speaker 2: power to govern, respecting the rights of Ewy and Hapoo

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Speaker 2: and being equal before the law. Is there anything wrong

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Speaker 2: with those?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, okay, you don't want me to give away

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Speaker 6: the game plan for tonight, bud, but just really quickly,

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Speaker 6: the government has the right to govern and sees who

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Speaker 6: and how did they get that right? Well, that's a

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Speaker 6: rather fundamental question than will examine tonight. Secondly that the

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Speaker 6: rights that accrue to the hapu of in fact, the

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Speaker 6: bill sees that they are as outlined in the treaty,

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Speaker 6: but constrained by whatever government of the day actually concedes

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Speaker 6: that they may be. So there's a lot of logical flaws,

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Speaker 6: even on the question of equality before the law. I

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Speaker 6: look forward to pointing out tonight how how equality before

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Speaker 6: the law is a fiction today, yesterday, and probably tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of logical flaws which I look

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Speaker 6: forward to surfacing. And yeah, well that's it, Helmut.

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Speaker 2: How the big one here, and you mentioned it to

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Speaker 2: start with that the governor has the right to govern.

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Speaker 2: You say, says, who when did that happen? It's it's

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Speaker 2: the fundamental question is whether Mary seated sovereignty, whether the crown,

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Speaker 2: whether the government is sovereign in New Zealand, they have

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Speaker 2: the right to make laws. You don't think they do.

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Speaker 6: You have hit the nail on the head, Ryan, and I.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to Jesus, where does that leave us?

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Speaker 11: It leaves us.

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Speaker 6: It leaves us right where we are, Ryan, right where

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Speaker 6: we are. So so the real issue isn't about the

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Speaker 6: the technicalities. The real issue has always is the substance

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Speaker 6: of our civil society. Do we actually believe in things

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Speaker 6: like truth and justice and freedoms and equality before the

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Speaker 6: life we do? Then? Cool, let's look with crystal clear

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Speaker 6: eyes and what's that got us to where we're at.

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Speaker 6: We're in a great place. This is an awesome place

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Speaker 6: with an awesome group of people and democracy call. So

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Speaker 6: let's not ignore that, but let's be truthful about what

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Speaker 6: got us here and how to go forward and the

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Speaker 6: way that Qiwei's actually wants.

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Speaker 2: That's it both, all right? Hey, Hey, saldzeg is going

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Speaker 2: to be a good debate. Look forward to watching it. Helmet,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for your.

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Speaker 1: Time get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge, you for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store news Talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: Six minutes away from six year on news Talk, said

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Speaker 2: be very quickly because I promised you. The QV House

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Speaker 2: Price Index average home value for September down point four percent,

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Speaker 2: slight improvement on August, which was down point five for

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Speaker 2: September quarter, down one point six for the August quarter,

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Speaker 2: down two. So I mean they call it green shoots?

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Speaker 2: Is it green shoots or is it just less bad

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Speaker 2: than it was. I guess they're the same thing. Mike's yeah,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 14: I'm seeing green shoots in housing, yep, and you buy

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Speaker 14: I'm all over the place, you know me, I'm just everywhere.

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Speaker 14: But you're seeing a lot more people at open homes,

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Speaker 14: and that's been a noticeable trend you're seeing. Spring always

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Speaker 14: helps if you look at a place north of Auckland,

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Speaker 14: like Omaha at the moment, which is a beach community.

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Speaker 2: Which is obviously where you're looking at it.

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Speaker 14: No, I'm not, but it's booming. It's like the number

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Speaker 14: of listening to the number of houses coming on. So

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Speaker 14: there's a bit of a vibe about.

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Speaker 2: The place because Omaha obviously quite expensive. But if you're

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Speaker 2: going to buy anywhere, it's so close to the city

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Speaker 2: at to Aukland, isn't it. That's where you want to there?

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Speaker 14: You are you're selling it right.

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Speaker 2: Wellington not so much though, down three point two percent,

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Speaker 2: and the only one that's actually getting worse at the moment.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean getting worse backwards? Going backwards by

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Speaker 2: more than it did in the August quarter, if you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 14: What Wellington well for obvious reasons, because everyone's been fired.

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Speaker 14: Well it's all so Tory me. So you've got Tory

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Speaker 14: and there is no work, So why would you want

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Speaker 14: to buy a house? Well, mind you, that's the time.

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Speaker 14: That's how markets work, right, isn't it? As you get

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Speaker 14: in low, you make your money and get out. I mean,

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Speaker 14: do I have to tell you everything here? Goodness, Saint,

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Speaker 14: I do enjoy your life lessons in the morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: today head of the Navy, so he's he's I'm going

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Speaker 14: to be interested to see. I mean, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 14: The premium on third party insurance is for a big boat.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm surprised they even had third party, to be honest.

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Speaker 14: I was astonished. I asked Judith Collins yesterday, as almost

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Speaker 14: as a joke, I said, I take it you don't

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Speaker 14: have insurance, and she will actually we do, And I thought, man,

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Speaker 14: I don't know where you get insurance from for a

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Speaker 14: for a warship. Who's underwriting that exactly? And so what

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Speaker 14: what's your premium? Anyway, So we'll talk to the head

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Speaker 14: of the Navy and find out where they are with that.

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Speaker 14: And we find out this morning it's sunk and it's

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Speaker 14: deep and you know how they're going to do it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, how big is that job?

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Speaker 2: And who are they going to hide?

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Speaker 14: The whole thing's a missed, it's a complete miss and

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Speaker 14: of course the Prime Minister being Tuesday, it's it's Prime

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Speaker 14: Ministerial Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: MICUs with the next I'll be back tomorrow. Have a

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Speaker 2: great one, everybody.

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