1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof love where you lived, News talks, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: it'd be. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Good morning six after five'll look at this terror attack 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: and Manchester. Elliott Smith live from Perth for us on 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: the AVS. The Mardi party is split and Newport regulations 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: that have got some crying foul. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: The agenda. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: It is friday'd heard of October this terrorist attack and 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Manchester regard where suicide vest killed two worshipers. Very sad 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: day for them. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Indeed, the attacker has been shot dead by the police. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: We believe we know their identity, look for safety reasons 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: at the scene. We're unable to confirm at this stage. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: Three other members of the public are in serious condition. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: We have also made two further arrests. 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: Get the usual comments from the King and Stara. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm already able to say that additional police assets are 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: being deployed to Saint God's across the country and we 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: will do everything our Jewish community say. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: Now it's an update on the flotilla with your grettas 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: and your TikTok stars. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: We've lost contact with all three of our New Zealanders, 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: Sam Yusuf and Dunner and yes they've been taken. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 5: We don't know what's happening. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Finally, this morning, today is the day that trophoties have 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: been waiting for. Taylor Swift is dropping her twelfth studio album, 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Life of the Showgirl. She created this album during the 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: European League of Eras tour back in twenty twenty four, 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: inspired by her life as an entertainer. 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: The News You Need this Morning and the in depth 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Root Love 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Where You Live news talks that'd be. 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: The flotilla people aren't endearing themselves to the world this morning. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: They've come out with a statement. So guy gets out 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: of his car in Manchester outside of synagogue with a 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: suicide vest on. This is, according to low witnesses, suicide. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: Vest On gets out of the runs someone over. This 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: is a guy who's a techie who's going to work 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: watching all this happen on his commute. Guy gets out 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: of the car, runs someone over and then he thinks, oh, 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: that must have been a mistake. No, then this man 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: proceeds to stab the guy on the ground that he's 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: just run over, and so he realizes this is something more. 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: This is a terror attack. This is in Manchester, outside 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: of synagogue. And then he gets up and, according to 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: this witness, goes in a robotic manner with a knife 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: from victim to victim. So that's just horrific, isn't it? 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely horrific? And then the flotilla people who are out 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: there getting close to Israeli water, Israeli waters and getting 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: themselves on TikTok and getting themselves on Instagram. And there's 52 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: a few kiwis there and great protests, whatever you want 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: to do. They came out and said, can you believe 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: it on a day like this? Well, you know, Keirs 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: Starmer has condemned the synagogue attack, but why is he 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: not condemning the Israelis coming on board our boat and 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: intercepting Just shut up, honestly, just shut up. People are 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: being killed there and you're sailing around the world on 59 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: a sort of a celebrity tik tok attention seeking mission. 60 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: That's basically all I can see you're doing. Nine minutes 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: after five now you're on News Talk CB. So this 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: business with to Party Maldi, it was always going to 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: happen at some point, but something was going to give, 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: wasn't it. Well, a Kapa Kingi, who is the head 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: of toy Tatidity, which is the group that did the 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: protest and did the marches. He's basically called out to 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Party Maldi. He's come out and said there's a bit 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: of a dictatorship going on within to Party Maldi and 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: it's not really our co Pappa, not really what we're into. 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: So he's doing a bit of a split. Chippy's got 71 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: a problem on his hands, of course, because well he's 72 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: got to work with these guys. 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 6: I think Party Marty have got some internal issues of 74 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 6: their own to work through. They look like they're quite 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: a long way away from being ready to play a 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 6: constructive role in any future government. 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: So it is comments are crucial. He says there is 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: a dictatorship going on, and he said that they have 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: ego driven views on the Malordi electorate seats. So couple 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: of things. One, this is potentially good for the Labor 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: Party in terms of getting back those Malori seats because 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: they are by no means of foregone conclusion to Party Mardi's. 83 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: And let's not forget that Edu Kapakingi comes with a 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: massive and quite organized vocal voting bloc, so that is 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: a potentially good thing. The bad thing though, of course, 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: is that you then have a very messy looking to 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: party Mary that you can't do and deal with, so 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: you can't get yourself into government. We'll talk to Liam 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: here about that after. It's just before six this morning, 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: eleven after five. 91 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof where you Live 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: News Talks. 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: The'd be five point thirteen and get in touch with 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: me this morning nine two ninety two. Would love to 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: hear from you. Happy Friday, Westpac where you can celebrate this. 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: They are now market leading in their mortgage rates, so 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: they lead the overall market with an eighteen month four 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: point four nine percent rate, four point eight five three 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: year rate and four point nine to nine rate for 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: four and five years, all ahead of the competition. Still 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen next week with the 103 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: ocr whether they'll go for one or whether they'll go 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 2: for a double whammy. In fact, the market is basically 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 2: it doesn't know. Fifty basis points is just as likely 106 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: as twenty five in its pricing. It is thirteen after 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: five Bryan Bridge. New rules for pig farmers sales will 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: now spend time and creates less time, I should say, 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: and creates a limit on mating stalls and an increased 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: space for growing pigs by thirteen percent. It'll make our 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: standards amongst the highest in the world. Farmers get a 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: ten year window to adjust to this. But what about 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: the cost and the practicality? Brink prices with me in 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: did pork CEO Brink? Good morning, Good morning Brent. Good 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: to have you on the show. 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 7: Morning Ryan. 117 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: How are you very well? Thank you? So what is 118 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: the do you have you worked out what this might 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: cost the industry, what the added cost might be. 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's going to be a lot. There's 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 7: a lot of physical changes need to happen on farm. 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 7: There'll be some farmers that are looking at especially the 123 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 7: space requirements and realizing they're going to have to rip 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 7: out a lot of buildings, maybe even build new ones. 125 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 7: But overall it's something that pig industry recognizes needs to happen. 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 7: The position the government's come to on welfare is, you know, 127 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 7: it's going to put us up there with the best 128 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 7: in the world. So the science is backing the positions 129 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 7: they've come to. 130 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: The hard is the cost, Yes, what is the science 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: telling you about the welfare of the animal. 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 7: Well, you know, far and creates provide piglet protection during 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 7: the most moderable days of the piglet's life. They're specifically 134 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 7: designed to reduce the main causes of pivot death, you know, starvation, 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 7: high percent there, all those horrible things being crushed by 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 7: the sour itself. And so whilst we have been using 137 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 7: them for up to four weeks after the sour gives birth, 138 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 7: the science shows that actually it's just that first four 139 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 7: days that it has the most effect, and after that 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 7: we're able to buggets take care of the piglet's needs 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: without the needs for the South to be so confined. 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 7: So most of the rest of the world, in fact, 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 7: countries come into that send pork to New Zealand and 144 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 7: I can listen, you know, USA, Canada, Spain, Australia, Netherlands, 145 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 7: Pole and Ireland, UK, China, Italy, Belgium, all of them 146 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 7: send pork products or pork to New Zealand, and all 147 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 7: of them have no restriction on the Usafarian creates or 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 7: any confinement at all. So we're up there with the 149 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 7: best of the world. But we've just got to figure 150 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 7: out the real issue of leveling the playing field against imports. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: Yes, this is the problem, right because we import. I mean, 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: in terms of what you produce as an industry, how 153 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: much of it is it exported versus stays here? 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 7: Almost zero gets exported. 155 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Right, So you're competing now with countries who've got much 156 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: lower standards. Therefore it's going to be cheaper. How do 157 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: you do? How do you compete? Yeah? 158 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 7: Sixty percent of what people eat here is imported. And 159 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 7: a lot of the countries that actually are I guess 160 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 7: close to or on some respects considered to have more 161 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 7: stringent standards in New Zealand, there's only about three of them. Sweden, Switzerland, 162 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 7: Norway are really good examples. They've got significant government subsidization. 163 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 7: Up to sixty percent of Norway's farm income on pig 164 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 7: farms is government funded. And New Zealand that's what we're 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 7: competing with you and they don't have imports coming in either, right. 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: So you do? What do you do? Then? Do we 167 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: have some kind of import standard that they need to 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: meet on animal welfare? 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 7: That would be ideal, though we've got trade considerations that 170 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 7: I'm sure the government's very worried about. I think if 171 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 7: consumers were able to make better choices if they were 172 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 7: able to see labeling and information about where their pork's 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 7: coming from a lot clearer in stores. That would really help. 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,239 Speaker 7: It would give people the choice and in the retailers 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 7: and those that use pork products in New Zealand making 176 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 7: the right choice and thinking about the standards the pork's 177 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 7: produced under and what they want to support with the 178 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 7: money they pay for it by choosing to buy New Zealand. 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 7: It's going to be very, very difficult, I think, to 180 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 7: convince the government to change import rules, but that is 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 7: the ideal. 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: They've got trade deals and stuff to worry about. As 183 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: you say, Brent, appreciate your time to brink Class sounding 184 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: pretty upbeat despite what the extra cost will mean for them. 185 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Brink Class, the n Z pork chief executive with us 186 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: this morning. I guess the moral of the story is 187 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: if you care about animal welfare, and obviously we do 188 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: because this is a pro farming a government that's changing 189 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: this law, then you go and buy. When you go 190 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: to the supermarket to buy your pork, you go and 191 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: find something that is produced here. Eighteen after five News 192 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Talk SEBB. 193 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News Talk seb. 195 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: But more on that terror attack over in Manchester shortly 196 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: just gone twenty after five. The AI boom, a lot 197 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: of people worrying all was it gonna be like an 198 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: Internet bubble? Is it going to burst at some point? Well, 199 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: there's a brit by the name of James Anderson. He 200 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: was an early backer in Tesla. He was an early 201 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: backer in Amazon ten Cen, which is Ali Barba, so 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: lots of good stuff that grew in value. Knows what 203 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: he's talking about, He said, Actually, I haven't been worried 204 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: about an AI bubble at all until recently. When you 205 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: know OpenAI, which does chat gpt, and its rival Anthropic, 206 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: they both increase their evaluations massively just in the last 207 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: few months. So Open Eye our Open Ai forgive Me 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: reportedly and talks about a share sale that would value 209 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: it at five hundred billion US dollars. That's up from 210 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: three hundred billion just in April, and up from one 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven billion last October, so quite the 212 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: meteoric rise. Anthropic, on the other hand, has trebled its 213 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: valuation recently, going from sixty billion in March to one 214 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy billion last month. He says the scale 215 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: of that jump and the pace bothers him. Twenty one 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: after five, we've got the final round of the Rugby 217 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Championship this weekend. The All Blacks take on the Wallaby's 218 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: in Perth to sold out Opta Stadium. It's ten forty 219 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: five pm our time, Saturday night. Elliott Smith News Talks. 220 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: AB's voice of rugby is the Elliott. Good morning morning Ryan. 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: So what's a vibe like over there? 222 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been a big build up. Obviously the Wallaby's 223 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 8: gone with a little bit of confidence given the way 224 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 8: they were able to appreciate the All Blacks the last week. 225 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 8: It wasn't quite enough to win the Bledders Load Cup. 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 8: But since there is an opportunity to get first win 227 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 8: over the All Blacks since twenty twenty ten straight. The 228 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 8: All Blacks have one. But you know, the Warby's certainly 229 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 8: knocked off, not knocked off by the defeat last week 230 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 8: in Auckland and sensing there was a chance to cause 231 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 8: some kiwi pane this weekend. 232 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: We've got a few other injuries. Boden Barrett's out any 233 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: concerns there. 234 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you'd be up for two to three weeks. Well, 235 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 8: the sound of it should be okay. For Chicago. Damien 236 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 8: McKenzie comes in. He's been the understudy all year long 237 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 8: for Boden Barrett. Came off the bench instead the ship 238 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 8: for an hour last week, so not a huge drop necessarily, 239 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 8: but Boden Barrett's certainly the first choice and that All 240 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 8: Blacks set up. They lose Ethan de Groot as well 241 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 8: up front to Mighty Williams comes through. This is all 242 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 8: about finding that depth, of course, ahead of the twenty 243 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 8: twenty seven World Cup. Couple of other selections as well, 244 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 8: with Peter Luktai coming in at number eight, which is 245 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 8: a real surprise when that was named yesterday here in Australia, 246 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 8: and also Quinta Pie at center, so a couple of surprises. 247 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 8: Just as the All Blacks try to find a little 248 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 8: bit of depth. There's not many opportunities to build those 249 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 8: depths with such a congested test schedule and everyone being 250 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 8: so even around the world at the moment, so trying 251 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 8: to find those opportunities to learn a little bit more 252 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 8: about some of these players are few and far between, 253 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 8: but that's what Scott Robinson's done this week not quite 254 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 8: as conservative, maybe as we expected it to be. 255 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: Very even Stevens. Assuming we beat the Wallabies in Perth 256 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: them were onto this Grand Slam tour. What do we 257 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: need to do there? 258 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 8: Well, I think that any inconsistency is the focus for 259 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 8: the All Blacks. If they went on Saturday night, that's 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 8: two in a row. First I've been able to do 261 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 8: that in the Rugby Championship, and then as you said, 262 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 8: you know they got Ireland, who are always tough, that's 263 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 8: in Chicago. England are really really tricky at home, Scotland 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 8: having never beaten the All Blacks in Edinburgh, but will 265 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 8: fancy their chances, and then Wales surround out the year. 266 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 8: The All Blacks need to win and keep winning and 267 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 8: building that momentum because there are so many questions around 268 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 8: this All Blacks team and until they start stringing wins together, 269 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 8: these questions are going to remain. So once we sit 270 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 8: back at the end of the year, over the summer 271 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 8: and can look back at the record for the year, 272 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 8: that's probably when we'll know how on track this All 273 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 8: Blacks team is ahead of twenty twenty seven. 274 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: He is hoping Elliott Smith, NEWSTALKSB Voice of Rugby and Perth. 275 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 2: It is twenty four after five News Talks FB the early. 276 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by. 277 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: NEWSTALKSB NEWSTALKSB twenty six minutes after five. At what point 278 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: do you say this local government election is a failure, 279 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: a flop, not worth the paper it's written on. I 280 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: think we can pretty much do that now. Even in Auckland, 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: our biggest city, the super city, with all the responsibility 282 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: after amalgamation, the turnout after two weeks nine percent last 283 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: time in total thirty five percent. That's not a mandate. 284 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: That's a vote of no confidence. And if you think 285 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: about it, it's not like Kerewies aren't engaged in democracy. 286 00:14:59,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 7: More. 287 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: We vote in the national elections that are very closer 288 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: to eighty percent. So then you ask yourself what's the 289 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: problem with local government? Two things. One, there's too many 290 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: of them. You've got to get rid of regional councils. 291 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: You can have the number of local ones. Surely turn 292 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: the system from a council mayor to a mayor council system. 293 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: More on that in a second. We've got something like 294 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: seventy eight local authorities for five million people. It's just nuts, 295 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: it's dumb. Once they get to the council table, of course, 296 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: the mayor becomes a cuck to whoever looney nutbar widow 297 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: was elected to the council and a few hundred votes 298 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: would have got them there. Of course doesn't take much, 299 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: and they've all got dreams of riding their bikes to work. 300 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: So here's the problem why people don't vote. They don't 301 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: vote because the powers too evenly shared. I think we 302 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: vote in a guy who's just told the rate paying 303 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: group we're about to to f off. Did you see 304 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: that yesterday? Wayne Brown, in an email to the Ratepayers 305 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Alliance said just f off. And the problem with that 306 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: is we voted this guy in and even he struggles 307 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: to shake things up. So we need a better system. 308 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Most councils should be put in the bin, and we 309 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: need a strong mayor system. This is where the mayor 310 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: has veto power over legislation. They appoint the department heads 311 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: and they control the budget. One man or women, one plan, 312 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: get it done. Until then, there's no point in voting 313 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: for this hodgepodge bunch of do nothing naval gazers sitting 314 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: around thinking about what's on the menu for the next 315 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: ratepayer funded lunch? Ryan Bridge twenty eight minutes after five 316 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: News Talks. He'd been talking about the banks earlier. You know, 317 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: we had the earthquake changes come through from the government 318 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: this week, which is great to see, but what does 319 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: that mean that the banks are going to lend on 320 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: these So you've had all of these buildings sitting empty 321 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: on a list, on a register saying no, they don't 322 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: go in there because if an earthquake comes, you'll be 323 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: crushed and killed. And now magically the government's is it's okay, 324 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: they're off the register. Are the banks going to be 325 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: flooding into offer lending. The answer at this stage is 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: basically they don't know. They're still reading into it. But 327 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: the thing is it doesn't necessarily mean a building that 328 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: was on the list but then taken off may still 329 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: be too risky for the banks to lend on, you 330 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean, They have other criteria. We'll get 331 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: to the UK on this terror attack after news on 332 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: News Talk SETB. 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 334 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where you Live. 335 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be pretty far away from six Welcome 336 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: to your Friday morning. We'll live to the UK where 337 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: there's been a terror attack on a Jewish commit unity 338 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: in Manchester. The multi parties imploding this morning. We'll look 339 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: at that before top of the hour as well. We 340 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: were just discussing the earthquake, strengthening changes that have been 341 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: made or lack of changes that have been made, and 342 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: what that would mean for the banks. Ryan says this text. 343 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: I spoke to my insurance company yesterday. The government's changes 344 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: mean absolutely nothing. The building is still low quality. The 345 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: announcement does not actually change the engineering issues. 346 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 9: Yeah. 347 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: I think that we might increasingly find that's the case, 348 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: both for lending from banks and for insurance cover. These 349 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: changes will mean deadly squat twenty three away from six. Now, 350 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: let's go to our reporters around the country and we'll 351 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: start with Calm, Proxter and Needing. Colum the first anniversary 352 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: of the Dunedin floods today. Yeah, look, that's right. 353 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: State of emergency was put in place a year ago 354 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: after rainfall superseded averages for the month of October. In 355 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: just twelve hours alone, it caused widespread slips, flooding one 356 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty mills. In fact, fell in two days, 357 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: dred scent Cident's had to evacuate their homes and the 358 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: civil Defense bunker was activated here. 359 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: So a year on, what's changed? Counselor and Meryl candidate here. 360 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: Sophie Barkers says the community we're upset then and that 361 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 4: is still echoing now. She says South to Needan has 362 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: become somewhat of a poster child for climate change. As 363 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: a result, Barker says they've put more than twenty nine 364 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: million dollars of flood alleviation plans in place for South 365 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: Donedan in future. 366 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: All Right, how's the weather today? 367 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: Cloud breaking to find spouse today, drizzle developing. 368 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: Tonight's the high today? Fourteen jeers Callum Courtney and christ 369 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: Jay Courtney. 370 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 10: Good morning, Ryan. 371 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: What's going on at the hot pools? 372 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 10: So New Brighton's teirpoona Taimiwana is hosting a starlight cinema 373 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 10: soak every Thursday, Saturday and Sunday this month and this 374 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 10: will start next week. It's an adult only event that 375 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 10: gives hot pool as a chance to relax in custom 376 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 10: made floating hammocks. Will movies play on the big screen 377 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 10: and they're kicking things off with Magic Mike. Manager Meren 378 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 10: Skipper says it's been on their Trea board since the 379 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 10: pool's opened in twenty twenty and it's looking like it'll 380 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 10: sell out. 381 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it sounds quite cool. How's your weather? 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 10: Mostly cloudy, apatche drizzle before more rain late at night. 383 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 10: Northeasterlies are high of thirteen. 384 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, mex and Wellington Morning Max, Good morning, 385 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: closer look at water loss in Wellington? What have you found? 386 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 11: Well, look, everyone has been patting themselves on the back 387 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 11: lately about how much better we're doing in terms of 388 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 11: those water leaks, bursting pipes, water usage, et cetera. We 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 11: should be fading any serious restrictions this summer. Touch would 390 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 11: at the post this morning has a story though, taking 391 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 11: a closer look at the numbers, Obviously there's been record 392 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 11: investment in the billions in Wellington. Wellington Water says thanks 393 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 11: to that money, we've saved four billion liters of drinking 394 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 11: water in the year to July, water that was previously 395 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 11: being lost. But ultimately, let's not get too excited because 396 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 11: daily in the capital we still lose about sixty five 397 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 11: to seventy million liters of water a day. I opened 398 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 11: up the calculator. Some quick, that's almost thirty Olympic swimming 399 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 11: pools worth of water that we're losing drinking water each 400 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 11: day in Wellington, water loss only improving from forty one 401 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 11: percent to thirty seven. We're still hemorrhaging water. It's not good. 402 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 11: The infrastructure still deteriorating, and Wellington we are still essentially 403 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 11: the worst in the country. We may be doing better, 404 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 11: but we're still the worst. And the message is everyone 405 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 11: should be thinking very carefully still about usage over the summer. 406 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: Good for you. How's your winner? Thank you? Some clouds, 407 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: some drizzle sixteen. It's funny, isn't it, because you're going 408 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: to have to conserve water, but so much of it's 409 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: being wasted. I don't know. It's it's infrastructure, isn't it. 410 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: Thank you Max. Neighbors in Auckland, Hey, Neva havevy Friday? 411 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: Now things better in Auckland. 412 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 12: No, Well look what have you got? Well look, let's 413 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 12: talk about dogs and dog owners. So Auckland councils dished 414 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 12: out more than six thousand fines to dog owners who've repeatedly, 415 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 12: as we know, ignored warnings to register your pets. So 416 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 12: it's an increase of about seven point five percent. This 417 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 12: is on last year's five and a half thousand. So 418 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 12: the council says, despite countless changes and chances to meet requirements, 419 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 12: more than twenty nine thousand dogs remain unregistered in the city. 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: That's a lot, as matters a lot. So and do 421 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: they find them? I've always wondered about this. Do they 422 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: find them only if they come across them unregistered in 423 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: a park? Or do you get sent a letter saying 424 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: your hair is a fine because you didn't register it? 425 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 426 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly. 427 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 2: I know somebody who doesn't register their dogs. Oh, I 428 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: know it's not me, and and he's registered, and he's registered, 429 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: she's got her little color tag and everything. But I 430 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: know a guy who doesn't do it because he says 431 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: it's two hundred bucks. I was going to ask you 432 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: how much it is two hundred or more than two 433 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: hundred dollars every time you do it? And it's like, 434 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: what is that actually getting me? It's paying for the 435 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: pound for owners who are terrible with their dogs, not responsible. 436 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 12: Well, do you know what I'm going to say to 437 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 12: that If you can't pay it, don't have a flip 438 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 12: and pet dog. 439 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: I don't have one good advice. No, it's it's true. 440 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: It's true, it's good advice. 441 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: That's right. 442 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: Got to do it properly. 443 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 12: Niva has great advice. Scatted rain becoming widespread, heavier by 444 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 12: the afternoon as thunderstorms possible tonight. Wow a high of twenty. 445 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Neva nineteen away from six News Talk c B. 446 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: We'll get to our UK correspondent Vincent mcavinie next on 447 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: this Manchester synagogue terror attack. Also will speak to Liam 448 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 2: here on the Mardi party before top of the Art. 449 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Paul says, good morning. It's sixteen minutes away from six. 450 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Paul says, Ryan labors still have three major problems. One 451 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: no policies, Two the Greens are as bad and mad 452 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: as to party Maldi, and three Chippies denying responsibility for 453 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: all and everything. We'll talk to Liam here about that. 454 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: He's on the show in just a few seconds. 455 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind 456 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 457 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: First of this terror attack at a synagogue in Manchester, 458 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: joining US Vincent mcaviny are UK europe correspondent Vincent. What's 459 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: the latest here? 460 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 13: Well, we are trying to unpick what happened. We under 461 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 13: stand at about nine thirty one this morning, the police 462 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 13: received a call that a man had crashed into a 463 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 13: crowd outside a synagogue which was busy because it's Yom Kapor, 464 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 13: a very holy festival day, and had got out the 465 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 13: car and then proceeded to start stabbing people. Now, when 466 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 13: police arrived and they were there within about five minutes, 467 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 13: they had managed to barricade the worshipers, barricade themselves inside 468 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 13: the synagogue. The man couldn't access it. Police warned him 469 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 13: to stop and ultimately they had to shoot him. He 470 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 13: then seemed to be trying to trigger a device which 471 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 13: was on his body, and police had to then shoot 472 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 13: him again to kill him. So we understand he managed 473 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 13: to kill two people outside. Four people were injured by him. 474 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 13: Three are said to be in a critical condition in hospital. 475 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 13: It's been declared a terrorist incident, and Prime Minister to 476 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 13: kiss Arma rushed back from a meeting in Denmark to 477 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 13: cherry security Cabinet meeting just now. We understand that there 478 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 13: will be increased security at Jewish schools at Jewish synagogue, 479 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 13: backed up by the police in the coming days after 480 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 13: what has been a really horrible incident, but many members 481 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 13: of the UK Jewish community say they've expected something like 482 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 13: this for some time, because they say there's been rising 483 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 13: anti semitism in this country ever since the October seventh attack. 484 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: I was going to say that while the keirstamus is 485 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: this is a shock and shocking, those Jewish communities say, actually, 486 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: we are not surprised. Has there been any response on 487 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: that line, particularly in light of the pro Palestine or 488 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: what some believe Prohamas approaches that have been going on. 489 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean in terms of the reaction sort of officially, 490 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 13: you know, every sort of faith group in the UK 491 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 13: has responded condemning the attack. Politicians from across the spectrum 492 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 13: also condemning it. Members of the Jewish community have said that, 493 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 13: you know that they have felt under threat for the 494 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 13: last two years that they've seen this creeping up. You know, 495 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 13: I'm not sure it worked the same in New Zealand, 496 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 13: but we have something called the Community Safety Trust here, 497 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 13: which means that all sort of Jewish schools and synagogues 498 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 13: have their own twenty four hour security operation themselves, and 499 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 13: they say that they've needed to sort of up that 500 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 13: to make sure that's been effective to stop any kind 501 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 13: of attacks being taken out, but that they've warned police 502 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 13: that the levels of violence so sort of hate that 503 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 13: they felt what they were seeing in marches that meant 504 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 13: that something like this was inevitable to them, and sadly 505 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 13: it's happened. So the police know the identity of the attacker, 506 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 13: they've not yet released it. We understand two other people 507 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 13: have been arrested at a separate location, but unclear yet 508 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 13: what the connection is there, but we'll find out in 509 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 13: the coming days. 510 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do, Thanks so much. Vincent Mecavini, a 511 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: UK europe correspondent. Time is ditching and it's away from 512 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: six Ryan Bridge. More drama for the party, Maori Iru Kapakini. 513 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: This is the guy who led that big protuse, big 514 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: hikhoy over the treaty bill. He's cap ties with the party, 515 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: saying it's run like a dictatorship. Talks about it being 516 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: ego driven. Chris Hippins of course not rolling out working 517 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: with them next year, but sees they're a long way 518 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 2: from government. Needs to sort their oct doubt. Liam here 519 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: as political commentator with me this morning. Liam, Good morning 520 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: and good morning here, right, So is this good in 521 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: some ways potentially good for Labor on the MALDI seats 522 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: and but also bad in terms of forming a government. 523 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 9: No, I think it's only bad. I don't think that 524 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 9: these type of internal ructions really weaken the minor parties 525 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 9: in the way that they weaken major parties in terms 526 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 9: of how they go with the voters. You know, we've 527 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 9: seen in the past. You know, the Greens have had 528 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 9: a terrible couple of years, right, and the Greens have 529 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 9: had some internal ructions in the past. But because of 530 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 9: the dynamics of how the works of their voters and 531 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 9: how their voters they energize and motivated by different things, 532 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 9: is they don't seem to go down in the polls 533 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 9: or perform any worse. As long as they basically hold together, 534 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 9: they can have quite a lot of internal discord and 535 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 9: still retain their voter base. So I think it's only 536 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 9: bad for Labor given that Labor. There hasn't been a 537 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 9: single polls as a general election showing Labor able to 538 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 9: form a government at TPM. And the fact of the 539 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 9: matter is that while TPM might not be materially damaged 540 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 9: by this, Labor will be because Labor will have the 541 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 9: association and it's Labor voters, he will be repelled by 542 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 9: it's not TPM voters. 543 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: Which is why you're here to be saying this. 544 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 6: I think to party Marty have got some internal issues 545 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 6: of their own to work through. They look like they're 546 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: quite a long way away from being ready to play 547 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 6: a constructive role in any future government. 548 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: Is that basically like a kickoup the JACKSI he's they've 549 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: still got time to turn their party around and be 550 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: a credible partner for them. 551 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 9: Well, it's not really within't his control. I don't think, 552 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 9: you know, talking about being if he's ruling them out 553 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 9: with not if he's saying that they're a long way 554 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 9: off of being a constructive party in government with him, 555 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 9: But he's essentially saying that he was to be in government, right, So, like, 556 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 9: you know, perhaps it's a it's probably the strongest sort 557 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 9: of statement that Labor leaders even made about TVM in 558 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 9: recent years, which just goes to show how reliant they 559 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 9: are on TVM. It's pretty weak objectively, but ultimately, if 560 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 9: that's the strongest kind of distancing you're going to get, well, 561 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 9: you know, that's actually pretty weak. 562 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: What about the Marty seats themselves, do you think we 563 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: could see support moving to because obviously the tide's been 564 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: turning against labor. Could we see as a result of 565 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: this break of the movement some more support for labor 566 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: in the Marty seats. 567 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 9: No, I don't think so, because all of us is, 568 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 9: all of us is inside baseball, right. It's it's not 569 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 9: the type of thing that in those seats is going 570 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 9: to make the difference. You've still got all the energy 571 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 9: on the on the TPMs sort of side, and I 572 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 9: think the best analogy is to the Scottish National Party, 573 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 9: which has sort of wiped out labor in Scotland and 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 9: which hasn't really been slung down in that regard by 575 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 9: its own difficulties, internal breakdowns in arguments and sectionalism fun 576 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 9: time design. The more dominant thing is that actually TPM 577 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 9: is a more dynamic, more populist movement, and then the 578 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 9: Mauldi uturates, which are a low turnout lecturates. It's actually 579 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 9: that type of energy that matters a lot more. And 580 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 9: I think that the by election, the reason by ection 581 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 9: is really the sin of things to come. 582 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: They appreciate that analysis. Thank you, Liam. Here with us 583 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: Political commentator time is nine to six news talk set big. 584 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day. It's 585 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: early edition with Brian Bridge and one roof Love where 586 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: you Live News Talks a B. 587 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: Seven minutes away from six on News Talks. Heb so 588 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: it's here starmus Is is shocked by this terror attack 589 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: in Manchester. But there's a lot of people saying we 590 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't be shocked because we've had pro Palestine or some 591 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: say pro Hamas rallies up and down the street to 592 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: this country four years now. And here's British political journalist 593 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: Julia Hartley Brewer having a go Prime Minister. 594 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: I don't think you have done enough to keep our 595 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 5: Jewish community safe. I think when you happily allow these 596 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: pro Palestinian marchers on the streets, and yeah, the last 597 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 5: government did too. I think it was a point when 598 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 5: they were supportive of the Palestinian people and people in Gaza. 599 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: They're just pro Hammus March. There's a lot of people 600 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: who organize them are very very closely linked with Hamas 601 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 5: Terras who launched the attack on October seven. 602 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: So you can imagine what Faraj is going to say 603 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: about all this. He's a spected to talk shortly times. 604 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge six to two now and Mike's here morning. Mike, 605 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: greetings to you. Ryan, good to see you. How are 606 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: you complaining about the lights this morning? 607 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: See. 608 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to bring. 609 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 14: Body with the technical details of putting this. 610 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: Program to a but you need to be able to see. 611 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 14: I raised with management a couple of weeks ago the 612 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 14: problem with the lights in the studio, which were about 613 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 14: one hundred and twelve years old and had a yellow 614 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 14: tinge to them, and I said, this is unacceptable, let's 615 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 14: do something about it, and they said, no problem. All 616 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 14: several days later, people have been up with hivers, vests 617 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 14: and ladders and things like that. And turns out Glenn 618 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 14: tells me no one's actually come to me officially from management. 619 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 14: Turns out Glenn tells me it costs thousands, thousands upon 620 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 14: thousands of dollars to rectify the situation. And part of 621 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 14: the problem the lights were too yellow is the problem. 622 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 14: They're old, they faded light. You know when late lights 623 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 14: get old. Yeah, they're virtually candles. 624 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: So you and the problem for you is that you 625 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: couldn't read the paper. 626 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 14: I don't know, it's just the light was inconsistent in 627 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 14: the studio. You had bright lights and dull lights. And 628 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 14: I like a good consistent light. I like to be 629 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 14: so I like to curate my surroundings. Okay, so none of. 630 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: Us are getting pay rises. 631 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 14: And they go out and so it was the drivers, 632 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 14: not the bulb. So they're out there buying parallel importing 633 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 14: cheap drivers from China, and so anyway, they do all 634 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 14: of this, and they and I say thank you very much. Anyway, 635 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 14: the next it's gone out again. 636 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: It's another one flickering light in the studio this morning, 637 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: another one. 638 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 14: So they're going to be back up with the Hiver's 639 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 14: vests in the latter. 640 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a very quick question. 641 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 14: Yes, you're the wrong person to ask, because you've got 642 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 14: no taste in cars because you drive the station Wagon. 643 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 14: Does the name of a car do anything for you 644 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 14: as the purchaser of the vehicle if you were in 645 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 14: the market buy a car. 646 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: Do you mean like the Corolla part of it or the. 647 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 14: Audi part of it, the Weston Martin power, Yes and no. 648 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 14: Would you buy a dong thing? 649 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been looking at the Dong things this morning. 650 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: They basically look like Tesla's. What do you mean with 651 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: the actual name, would you yeah? 652 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, what do you drive, I drive a dong thing. 653 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 14: I mean, would you say that, of course you wouldn't say. 654 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: That, well, you just maybe you'd say it's a DF 655 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: What about a Yang Wing? Well, the other ones. I'm 656 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: surprised how many new cars we had, the Zeka, the Pharisen, 657 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: the x Pang and the im. 658 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 14: There's five new brands, incredible in the last two months. 659 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 14: Now that's all going to end in tears, isn't it. 660 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 14: You know you can't open and they'll break. How well 661 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 14: is the dong thing gonna go in the New Zealand market? Anyway, 662 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 14: We're going to look at this on the program this morning, 663 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 14: along with Jordi Barrett. 664 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, oh nice, nice, very good. Yeah, 665 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: I'd probably take a dong thing. In fact, if you 666 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: want to give me a free dong thing, I'll take it. Tomorrow. 667 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: News Talk SPV have a great day. 668 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 669 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B from five am weekdays, or 670 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.