1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Brill and Bridge rich In the Brady's a UK europe correspondent. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Good evening, Hey, Brian, loved it to speak to you 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: again and to you. So we've had a big day 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: of an outthit from Donald Trump, the terrorist etc. But 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the big one Ukraine and the pausing of military aid 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: to Ukraine's military into its frontline forces, sending shotwives all 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: around the world as you can imagine. But how are 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: they responding in Europe? What's the reaction there? 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: Well, shock, which I'm surprised by because we knew this 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: was coming. I mean, he was saying this on the 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: campaign trail. You could see what was happening on Friday night, 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: the ambush in the White House. So he's just following 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: through on everything he has said. So now we know 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: now we know that Trump does not want to help 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: Ukraine in any way, and effectively, what they're doing is 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: trying to bully Zelenski into accepting Russia's peace steal. And 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Russia's peace steal involves and I know this because I've 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: spent many hours with the Russian ambassador interviewing him in London, 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: and he has a list of and it's obviously a 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: Kremlin dictated list of what they will do for peace. 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: So Russia effectively wants to keep all of the land 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: it has invaded and stolen in the last three years, 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: in addition to Crimenia Crimea, which had stolen twenty fourteen. 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: No NATAL membership for Ukraine, no European Union membership, and 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Zelenski must go. So that's just the beginning of the 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: Russian hit list. Trump seems to think that this is 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: all fine. So what we're seeing now is France and 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: the UK step up, and I think there will be 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: an alternative peace proposal put forward. They're working closely with Zelenski. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: I think we'll see Italian peacekeepers, French, British, perhaps Norwegian 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: and Swedish. I was in Ireland for the weekend. Maybe 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: even an Irish contingent as well, with peacekeepers in Lebanon. 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: So if Trump has done one thing, he has made 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Europe more united. 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. But that's what they've been wanting for a very 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: long time, the Americans, right, They've wanted Europe to step 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: up and to play its part, and he's now forcing 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: their hand. What have to Ukraine in the meantime If 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: this military aide stops, does Europe have the resources in 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the way withal to get the military aide that's needed 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: to Ukraine to keep the fighting going. 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: Well, that is the question. I mean, the UK military 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: is on its knees after fourteen successive years of underfunding 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: under the Conservatives, So the military here they would really 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: be scrabbling around to even get a peacekeeping force together. 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: And I've spoken to senior leaders on my TV show 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: roundtable in the last six months and they all say 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: the same thing. UK military leaders from here are saying that, 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: you know, if you're looking at a peacekeeping force of 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: thirty thousand men, they can't stay there indefinitely. You need 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: another thirty thousand training to go in and another thirty 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: thousand recovering from coming out. So they're doing the numbers. 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Europe is trying to pull its resources and it needs stating. 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: The number one country in Europe for support of Ukraine 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: is actually Germany. They've given the most in terms of 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: money and military So I guess if anything, from Friday 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: night they have sharpened the focus of Europe to come together, 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: But how much is left in the European pot. Ultimately 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: we're all going to be chipping in more. 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: And into this being tributes to the Scottish painter Jack Vitriano. 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: Yes, he's passed away at the age of seventy three 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: at a house in France, and he was an extraordinary man. 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: If the name doesn't ring any bells, check out his artwork. 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: The art establishment here hated Jack Vetriano. They didn't like 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: the fact that he was a working class guy. He 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: used to be a mining engineer at the age of 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: sixteen and he taught himself how to paint. His first 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: girlfriend said to him one day, and it was a 69 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: comment that stayed with him his entire life. He's from 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: a small town in Fife, in Scotland, and the girlfriend 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: apparently said to him, if you don't do something with 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: your life, you're going to be stuck here forever and 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: you'll do nothing. So he signed up for an art 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: class at the local school, taught himself how to paint, 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: and he started copying the mass and then he decided 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: on his own style. And the art establishment they never 77 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: showed his portraits in the National Gallery in London, in 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: the Gallery in Edinburgh, but he had the Last Laughters. 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: One painting in particular he's famous for called the Singing Butler. 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. It was sold about twenty years 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: ago when it last came up for auction for about 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: one point four million en z. And would you believe 83 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: if Jack Vetriano had the last laugh, because that one 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: painting alone was bringing him in in royalties every year 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: in terms of prints and pictures and postcards people who 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: copied of it. One million end z every year of 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: his life off the back of a painting he made 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: thirty three years ago. 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Good on him. Now, Menchester United fans we talk a 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: lot about Menchester United, and said Jim Redcliffe. He's in 91 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: the firing line again, this time not from the establishment 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: but from the fans. I have a ticket prices. 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: Yes. So they got dumped out of the FA Cup 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: the other night, unceremoniously by Fulham, a home match which 95 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: they on paper years ago man United with have rolled 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: over Fulham. Fulham came one on penalties. United were the 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: cup holders. They are out and the chant went around 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: the ground. I won't use the language that was used, 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: but Ratcliffe obviously this gets back to him. So the 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: ticket pricing he has set for every home game, respective, 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: irrespective of who you are, whether you're a pension or whatever, 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: it equates to one hundred and thirty two end Z 103 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: dollars per ticket per match. And you know they're used 104 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: to watching big flare players winning trophies. It's not happening anymore. 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: They're not one hundred and thirty two dollars a ticket prospect. 106 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: Manchester United. They're going backwards. I think they're fifteenth in 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: the Premier League now, which will be their most catastrophic 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: finish ever. And all the while Ratcliffe has acted hundreds 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: of staff, the free lunches for the staff have gone. 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: It just goes from bad to worse. But the fans, 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: I think he's on the brink of a mutiny now 112 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: with the fans. And this is this is a guy 113 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: who from the local area and consider themself a Manchester 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: United fan. 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: There we go in the thank you for that? What 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: would you normally pay for a for a ticket? 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: You couldn't pay you. Look, you couldn't pay me to 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: watch Manchester United as a Liverpool fan. I'd go watch 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: them once a season. Well, look, I hope I hope 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: they enjoy us winning everything this year. Ryan, That's all 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: I would say. 122 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: And to thank you in the bradio, you can you're corresponding. 123 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 124 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 125 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio