1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,773 --> 00:00:19,213 Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Mattin 4 00:00:19,372 --> 00:00:25,973 Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons Full Show Podcast number sixty six or sixty seven. Yeah, missa, 5 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:27,533 Speaker 2: just tell us if we got that wrong. 6 00:00:27,933 --> 00:00:30,133 Speaker 3: Started off, well, we have the numbers there, but I know. 7 00:00:30,093 --> 00:00:33,293 Speaker 2: For a fact it's Valentine's Day, February, the fourteenth of 8 00:00:35,053 --> 00:00:38,412 Speaker 2: fourteenth of twenty twenty five. I've lost my mind. It 9 00:00:38,493 --> 00:00:41,292 Speaker 2: is the fourteenth of February and this is their podcast. 10 00:00:41,653 --> 00:00:45,653 Speaker 3: And there was a lot of love on the show today. 11 00:00:44,373 --> 00:00:46,412 Speaker 2: A lot of love, a lot of Valentine's Day, a 12 00:00:46,412 --> 00:00:50,333 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of chat about bloody something I 13 00:00:50,373 --> 00:00:54,133 Speaker 2: can't remember. Festivals, festivals. Yeah, it all got was fired up. 14 00:00:54,173 --> 00:00:55,733 Speaker 2: So I think it was actually one of our best 15 00:00:55,773 --> 00:00:58,252 Speaker 2: radio shows we've ever done. So it was follow sit 16 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:02,972 Speaker 2: to download, subscribe, etc. And have a great Valentine's Day 17 00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:05,093 Speaker 2: and a great weekend and give the taste Kiwi. All 18 00:01:05,173 --> 00:01:08,373 Speaker 2: right then, okay, bye, talking. 19 00:01:08,093 --> 00:01:09,493 Speaker 4: With you all afternoon. 20 00:01:09,733 --> 00:01:13,413 Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo X 21 00:01:13,693 --> 00:01:14,773 Speaker 1: ninety News Talk. 22 00:01:14,652 --> 00:01:18,853 Speaker 3: Zb, good after noon, Welcome into the show. Six past 23 00:01:18,973 --> 00:01:21,932 Speaker 3: one Friday. Always feel God on a Friday, particularly a 24 00:01:22,013 --> 00:01:23,853 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day Friday. 25 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:28,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, happy Valentine's Days, mate, Yeah, for everyone, the entire 26 00:01:28,773 --> 00:01:30,853 Speaker 2: nation lost thing now is my Valentine. I love you all. 27 00:01:30,932 --> 00:01:33,773 Speaker 2: You're lucky people. But I didn't get your mimoss for 28 00:01:33,813 --> 00:01:35,093 Speaker 2: breakfast my partner. 29 00:01:35,212 --> 00:01:39,932 Speaker 3: Yeah, genuine, genuine folks. It was mimosa and a lovely 30 00:01:39,973 --> 00:01:41,453 Speaker 3: bouquet flowers for your partner. 31 00:01:41,533 --> 00:01:43,573 Speaker 2: First thing in the morning. A few mimosas is an 32 00:01:43,613 --> 00:01:46,572 Speaker 2: interesting way to start the day. So you wake up, 33 00:01:46,613 --> 00:01:49,533 Speaker 2: first thing, you have some chocolates, give some flowers, and 34 00:01:49,533 --> 00:01:52,253 Speaker 2: start drinking champagne. Yeah, sort of sets you off in 35 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:55,253 Speaker 2: quite a weird that the world seems kind of like 36 00:01:55,253 --> 00:01:56,013 Speaker 2: a fantasy, Lamb. 37 00:01:56,053 --> 00:01:58,413 Speaker 3: I don't think i'd see you today, he starting off 38 00:01:58,413 --> 00:02:00,333 Speaker 3: the morning. Well, and that's him for the Friday. 39 00:02:00,373 --> 00:02:05,773 Speaker 2: But Colostia to cocktail bar, cocktail sort of cocktail cabinet 40 00:02:05,773 --> 00:02:08,253 Speaker 2: in here, well on a Friday at three thirty. Perfect 41 00:02:08,493 --> 00:02:09,813 Speaker 2: we used to have. We used to have the drinks 42 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:12,813 Speaker 2: trolley that the wheel in. Is there any work out 43 00:02:12,853 --> 00:02:15,293 Speaker 2: there that has a drinks trolley still? Because the drinks 44 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:17,853 Speaker 2: trolley is the greatest thing in the world. Takes. It's 45 00:02:17,893 --> 00:02:19,493 Speaker 2: a great way to meet everyone in your workplace if 46 00:02:19,493 --> 00:02:20,972 Speaker 2: you live in a big company. 47 00:02:21,333 --> 00:02:24,613 Speaker 3: And they spread the job around, didn't they, So you 48 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:27,133 Speaker 3: had your opportunity to be the person's take around. 49 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:29,213 Speaker 2: The drink trolley was great. Yeah, And when you're operating 50 00:02:29,252 --> 00:02:31,053 Speaker 2: the drink strolly, you can drink and drive with the 51 00:02:31,093 --> 00:02:34,773 Speaker 2: drinks trolley. Yeah. So you're refreshing yourself right around the company, 52 00:02:34,813 --> 00:02:37,292 Speaker 2: meeting people, people having drinks at their desk. Oh, there's 53 00:02:37,293 --> 00:02:39,293 Speaker 2: a bit of time. Yeah, there's a enough job. Now 54 00:02:39,293 --> 00:02:41,532 Speaker 2: everyone's freaked out about that kind of stuff exactly. 55 00:02:41,853 --> 00:02:45,412 Speaker 3: Right on to today's show. After three o'clock, deep seat. 56 00:02:45,453 --> 00:02:49,653 Speaker 3: You would have heard about this Chinese ai very controversial, controversial, 57 00:02:49,653 --> 00:02:53,493 Speaker 3: but now someone has used it to roast little old 58 00:02:53,573 --> 00:02:58,453 Speaker 3: New Zealand, and some of the roasts are pretty good actually. 59 00:02:58,933 --> 00:03:01,053 Speaker 2: And New Zealand's idea of night life is a kebab 60 00:03:01,133 --> 00:03:03,213 Speaker 2: shop that closes at nine point thirty pm and a 61 00:03:03,293 --> 00:03:07,053 Speaker 2: drunk nineteen year old fighting a road sign and very good. 62 00:03:07,693 --> 00:03:11,173 Speaker 3: Every major city in New Zealand is just a glorified town, 63 00:03:11,252 --> 00:03:14,013 Speaker 3: except Auckland, which is a glorified traffic jam. 64 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:18,692 Speaker 2: That stings, that hurts. This AI has got our number, 65 00:03:18,893 --> 00:03:20,733 Speaker 2: hasn't it. It's New Zealand. It's proof that if you 66 00:03:20,773 --> 00:03:23,773 Speaker 2: put enough sheep and overpriced housing in one place, people 67 00:03:23,773 --> 00:03:29,612 Speaker 2: will actually convince themselves. That's a utopia deep seek. That 68 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:34,013 Speaker 2: is pretty hurtful each that's from our AI over lords. 69 00:03:34,053 --> 00:03:36,613 Speaker 3: But we want to turn it around and we want 70 00:03:36,653 --> 00:03:39,893 Speaker 3: to actually boost up New Zealand. You know some platitudes. 71 00:03:40,653 --> 00:03:43,533 Speaker 3: What do we do so well here in New Zealand 72 00:03:43,613 --> 00:03:44,453 Speaker 3: that you know what's. 73 00:03:44,293 --> 00:03:48,973 Speaker 2: The opposite of a roast? Yeah, the celebration. Yeah, celebration, 74 00:03:49,013 --> 00:03:51,613 Speaker 2: don't they Yeah, people get to get yeah, celebration. 75 00:03:51,893 --> 00:03:54,533 Speaker 3: And we've already had a few suggestions for on nine two, 76 00:03:54,573 --> 00:03:55,973 Speaker 3: nine to two, but that's going to be the question 77 00:03:56,133 --> 00:03:56,893 Speaker 3: after three o'clock. 78 00:03:56,933 --> 00:04:00,333 Speaker 2: And also an awards ceremony, an awards ceremony. Well, coincidentally, 79 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:02,773 Speaker 2: I won an award last night. It did the first 80 00:04:02,813 --> 00:04:05,133 Speaker 2: annual Changese I saw you fell asleep with it. Yeah, 81 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:06,853 Speaker 2: I sleep with that last night. I'm so proud of 82 00:04:06,853 --> 00:04:08,933 Speaker 2: winning a thought its like an Oscar who is fantastic. 83 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:11,293 Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll have an awards ceremony for New Zealand 84 00:04:11,893 --> 00:04:14,333 Speaker 2: where you can, you can say what what's great about 85 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,333 Speaker 2: New Zealand Because we're running it down a lot at 86 00:04:16,333 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 2: the moment, aren't we. We certainly are. 87 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:19,853 Speaker 3: We need some positive positivity and love. 88 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:21,293 Speaker 2: We've got to do time. I got to do better 89 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:22,053 Speaker 2: than it's beautiful. 90 00:04:22,253 --> 00:04:25,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right after two o'clock. Are we going too 91 00:04:25,293 --> 00:04:29,413 Speaker 3: far and cracking down on booze at events? Festival organizers 92 00:04:29,773 --> 00:04:34,053 Speaker 3: certainly think so. They have felt quite put upon by 93 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:37,373 Speaker 3: police in recent years who are effectively saying to them 94 00:04:37,413 --> 00:04:39,093 Speaker 3: we don't want you to serve booths at festivals. 95 00:04:39,133 --> 00:04:40,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing everything they can to make it hard, 96 00:04:40,933 --> 00:04:43,133 Speaker 2: and festivals need to sell booths to make money. And 97 00:04:43,173 --> 00:04:45,373 Speaker 2: people that go to festivals want to have a few drinks. 98 00:04:45,373 --> 00:04:47,013 Speaker 2: That's how you get up and dance to the bands. 99 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:50,973 Speaker 2: You need a bit of social lubrication. And as I 100 00:04:51,013 --> 00:04:52,813 Speaker 2: was saying to you before, Tyler, I was at a 101 00:04:52,853 --> 00:04:55,093 Speaker 2: festival recently and they made me take my sunglasses off 102 00:04:55,093 --> 00:04:57,133 Speaker 2: to buy a drink. It's like, don't tell me to 103 00:04:57,173 --> 00:04:59,173 Speaker 2: take my sunglasses off to buy a drink. Mate. That 104 00:04:59,293 --> 00:05:03,613 Speaker 2: is patronizing that you're treating New Zealanders like babies. So 105 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:05,893 Speaker 2: if someone gets drunk and starts acting like an idiot. 106 00:05:05,933 --> 00:05:08,213 Speaker 2: Throw them out. But until that point, leave them arone 107 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:10,013 Speaker 2: and let them buy what they want to buy and 108 00:05:10,053 --> 00:05:11,693 Speaker 2: get on with your life. And let's let people that 109 00:05:11,773 --> 00:05:14,813 Speaker 2: run festivals and do good things in our communities have 110 00:05:14,853 --> 00:05:17,933 Speaker 2: an opportunity to run them how they see fit and 111 00:05:17,973 --> 00:05:20,533 Speaker 2: make some money. Yeah, because otherwise nothing happens if we 112 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:23,453 Speaker 2: just lack a stupid role upon stupid role upon stupid rule. 113 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:23,773 Speaker 5: Yeah. 114 00:05:23,853 --> 00:05:26,413 Speaker 3: Nicely said that as I started, Well, that is after 115 00:05:26,453 --> 00:05:29,013 Speaker 3: two o'clock. Back right now, let's talk about four year 116 00:05:29,253 --> 00:05:32,573 Speaker 3: terms for our government. It is back on the agenda. 117 00:05:32,893 --> 00:05:35,453 Speaker 3: David Seymour he had a speech to the Auckland Chamber 118 00:05:35,493 --> 00:05:38,933 Speaker 3: of Commerce in which he mentioned the four year political 119 00:05:39,053 --> 00:05:42,653 Speaker 3: term a bill that will be introduced to Parliament very shortly. 120 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:44,693 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what he said to journalists 121 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:45,093 Speaker 2: after that. 122 00:05:45,373 --> 00:05:48,773 Speaker 6: Well, the government's bills on a coalition commitment to introduce 123 00:05:48,813 --> 00:05:51,693 Speaker 6: a bill within eighteen months of forming. So that's going 124 00:05:51,733 --> 00:05:53,373 Speaker 6: to happen in the next few months. There will be 125 00:05:53,413 --> 00:05:56,573 Speaker 6: a bill introduced and then whether or not it goes 126 00:05:56,613 --> 00:05:58,653 Speaker 6: all the way through to referendum will be subjects to 127 00:05:58,693 --> 00:05:59,213 Speaker 6: more debate. 128 00:06:00,533 --> 00:06:03,613 Speaker 3: So I mean that is pretty definitive that their bill, 129 00:06:03,893 --> 00:06:06,293 Speaker 3: according to David Seymour, who will be the Deputy Prime 130 00:06:06,293 --> 00:06:09,053 Speaker 3: Minister very soon, will go through part elament. Then we 131 00:06:09,093 --> 00:06:12,733 Speaker 3: need to have that further debate about a referendum, binding 132 00:06:12,813 --> 00:06:15,693 Speaker 3: referendum and whether we go to a four year term. 133 00:06:15,813 --> 00:06:18,213 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so we've had referendums in the past. In 134 00:06:18,293 --> 00:06:21,533 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, sixty eight percent of people rejected a 135 00:06:21,573 --> 00:06:25,053 Speaker 2: four year term, and in nineteen ninety sixty nine percent 136 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:27,613 Speaker 2: of people rejected. But there is a feeling now that 137 00:06:27,693 --> 00:06:30,413 Speaker 2: people can see that we need a four year term 138 00:06:30,733 --> 00:06:34,373 Speaker 2: because as everyone says, yeah, one year getting used to 139 00:06:34,413 --> 00:06:37,133 Speaker 2: your position, one year doing what you wanted to do, 140 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:40,813 Speaker 2: and then one year campaigning. And so as a result 141 00:06:40,853 --> 00:06:44,653 Speaker 2: we have everything short sighted, nothing gets done and where 142 00:06:44,693 --> 00:06:47,173 Speaker 2: people just you know, politicians just rise at writing whatever 143 00:06:47,213 --> 00:06:49,173 Speaker 2: the news cycle is, to stay popular, to get re 144 00:06:49,213 --> 00:06:53,053 Speaker 2: elected four years, what about five years? Five years has 145 00:06:53,053 --> 00:06:54,213 Speaker 2: got as your five years? 146 00:06:54,453 --> 00:06:56,733 Speaker 3: Is there many other countries that would extend it to 147 00:06:56,773 --> 00:06:58,613 Speaker 3: five years. I mean that's a fair point if we 148 00:06:58,733 --> 00:07:01,693 Speaker 3: I think many people would agree three years is too 149 00:07:01,813 --> 00:07:03,733 Speaker 3: short in New Zealand and it is probably time that 150 00:07:03,773 --> 00:07:05,813 Speaker 3: we relook at it. If you disagree with that, I'd 151 00:07:05,853 --> 00:07:07,173 Speaker 3: love to hear from you on Oh, eight hundred and 152 00:07:07,173 --> 00:07:10,613 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty five years is quite a substantial amount 153 00:07:10,613 --> 00:07:12,493 Speaker 3: of time. I don't think i'd be comfortable with five 154 00:07:13,093 --> 00:07:16,533 Speaker 3: because if there is a government in place that is 155 00:07:17,293 --> 00:07:20,093 Speaker 3: stuffing things up, and the tide has turned against that 156 00:07:20,173 --> 00:07:22,613 Speaker 3: government in the first three or four years, then you're 157 00:07:22,653 --> 00:07:24,253 Speaker 3: stuck with them for another twelve months. 158 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:27,733 Speaker 2: So the UK is five years, I believe, I'll just 159 00:07:27,853 --> 00:07:29,813 Speaker 2: check that off the top of my head. I think 160 00:07:29,853 --> 00:07:32,613 Speaker 2: that they're five years and that does seem like a 161 00:07:32,653 --> 00:07:34,573 Speaker 2: long time. And I also want to throw something else 162 00:07:34,613 --> 00:07:36,173 Speaker 2: in the mix here when we're talking about it, because 163 00:07:36,173 --> 00:07:38,493 Speaker 2: I think we get rid of MMP. I know there's 164 00:07:38,493 --> 00:07:40,453 Speaker 2: not a strong tide to put that forward, and I 165 00:07:40,453 --> 00:07:44,333 Speaker 2: don't act wouldn't support that because they're in due to MMP. 166 00:07:44,733 --> 00:07:47,853 Speaker 2: But I think it's a rubbish system. I reckon, let's 167 00:07:47,893 --> 00:07:48,973 Speaker 2: go back to first pass the post. 168 00:07:49,093 --> 00:07:51,533 Speaker 3: It is not working as well as it should be working. Absolutely, 169 00:07:51,573 --> 00:07:52,293 Speaker 3: But just as. 170 00:07:52,133 --> 00:07:54,613 Speaker 2: All we ever hear about is the most extreme parties 171 00:07:54,813 --> 00:07:57,373 Speaker 2: and the most extreme voices from people that don't actually 172 00:07:57,413 --> 00:08:00,133 Speaker 2: have to have opinions across the whole government people don't 173 00:08:00,173 --> 00:08:03,493 Speaker 2: have to have sane, sage opinions to seem like they 174 00:08:03,493 --> 00:08:05,653 Speaker 2: could form a good government just here and all the 175 00:08:05,693 --> 00:08:11,093 Speaker 2: media is it's just the far ends yapping at each other. Yep. 176 00:08:11,173 --> 00:08:13,693 Speaker 2: So call first past the post. Yeah, so that's another question. 177 00:08:13,853 --> 00:08:15,453 Speaker 2: It might be hard to get people across the line 178 00:08:15,493 --> 00:08:16,413 Speaker 2: on that one. 179 00:08:16,453 --> 00:08:18,773 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty do we need a 180 00:08:18,853 --> 00:08:22,693 Speaker 3: four year term for our governments? And the supplementary question 181 00:08:22,733 --> 00:08:24,813 Speaker 3: from Matt is a time to go back to first 182 00:08:24,813 --> 00:08:27,253 Speaker 3: passing the posts. Love to hear from you. N nine 183 00:08:27,293 --> 00:08:31,813 Speaker 3: to two is the text number. It is fourteen past one, the. 184 00:08:31,853 --> 00:08:35,813 Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything 185 00:08:35,852 --> 00:08:36,453 Speaker 1: in between. 186 00:08:36,653 --> 00:08:39,412 Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo. 187 00:08:39,293 --> 00:08:42,492 Speaker 1: XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort 188 00:08:42,573 --> 00:08:43,412 Speaker 1: news talks. 189 00:08:43,132 --> 00:08:43,453 Speaker 7: There'd be. 190 00:08:45,693 --> 00:08:48,533 Speaker 3: Sixteen pass one and boy oh boy, has this one 191 00:08:48,612 --> 00:08:50,772 Speaker 3: kicked off? So the idea of a four year term 192 00:08:50,813 --> 00:08:53,213 Speaker 3: in parliament, it appears likely that a bill will go 193 00:08:53,293 --> 00:08:56,693 Speaker 3: through Parliament from the act Party and whether or not 194 00:08:56,773 --> 00:08:59,853 Speaker 3: we go as far as a referendum is yet to 195 00:08:59,892 --> 00:09:02,653 Speaker 3: be decided. But a lot of texts and phone calls 196 00:09:02,653 --> 00:09:04,172 Speaker 3: coming through on this one. Nine nine till is the 197 00:09:04,173 --> 00:09:06,732 Speaker 3: text number. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 198 00:09:06,773 --> 00:09:08,573 Speaker 3: the number to call? Do you agree when need to 199 00:09:08,612 --> 00:09:11,413 Speaker 3: go to a four year term? Currently obviously we're on 200 00:09:11,453 --> 00:09:12,173 Speaker 3: a three year term. 201 00:09:12,213 --> 00:09:14,252 Speaker 2: Well this is this is a common text that's coming 202 00:09:14,293 --> 00:09:17,132 Speaker 2: through four years of national yay, four years of just 203 00:09:17,173 --> 00:09:20,533 Speaker 2: send to know. So really, if you've got to think 204 00:09:21,053 --> 00:09:25,973 Speaker 2: more than that, then the government that you want, right so, 205 00:09:26,612 --> 00:09:28,612 Speaker 2: because of course if it's the government you don't want, 206 00:09:28,612 --> 00:09:31,372 Speaker 2: you want them out quicker, yeah, but you but if 207 00:09:31,372 --> 00:09:32,213 Speaker 2: you yeah. 208 00:09:32,213 --> 00:09:34,093 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just trying to think of some policy that 209 00:09:34,132 --> 00:09:35,533 Speaker 3: would have got over the line if we had a 210 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:37,093 Speaker 3: four year term, and I get a lot of people 211 00:09:37,173 --> 00:09:39,973 Speaker 3: were very upset about labor and fair enough to but 212 00:09:40,012 --> 00:09:40,813 Speaker 3: one policy that. 213 00:09:40,773 --> 00:09:42,333 Speaker 2: Came to mind that would have got over the line 214 00:09:42,413 --> 00:09:43,012 Speaker 2: was the theories. 215 00:09:43,453 --> 00:09:45,573 Speaker 3: So if we had a four year term and Label 216 00:09:45,612 --> 00:09:47,772 Speaker 3: was still in it, yes, maybe things would have been worse, 217 00:09:47,813 --> 00:09:50,012 Speaker 3: but we might have had some theories across the lane. 218 00:09:50,012 --> 00:09:53,413 Speaker 2: I never had the money for those theories. They were 219 00:09:53,492 --> 00:09:57,573 Speaker 2: pine in the sky theories. Imagine. You can imagine anything 220 00:09:57,612 --> 00:10:00,693 Speaker 2: you want, You can describe things. For them is a 221 00:10:00,732 --> 00:10:02,612 Speaker 2: lot harder. But anyway, that's not what we're talking about 222 00:10:02,653 --> 00:10:03,933 Speaker 2: all right, four year terms. 223 00:10:03,973 --> 00:10:06,892 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Pete, your thoughts 224 00:10:06,933 --> 00:10:07,093 Speaker 3: on this? 225 00:10:08,372 --> 00:10:10,653 Speaker 8: There you go, and we're going to get the Ministry 226 00:10:10,732 --> 00:10:13,693 Speaker 8: of Health and check out the water or something because 227 00:10:13,732 --> 00:10:17,053 Speaker 8: I think there's causing dementia. I think something something, something 228 00:10:17,093 --> 00:10:20,293 Speaker 8: in the water, because people must have short memories the 229 00:10:20,372 --> 00:10:24,893 Speaker 8: last government another Yeah, we we'd be being bugget I 230 00:10:24,892 --> 00:10:27,173 Speaker 8: think three years is fine. Live the way it is 231 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:30,132 Speaker 8: that they perform, well, we just roll them over three 232 00:10:30,252 --> 00:10:33,453 Speaker 8: terms four years. But David Seymour, he's got his own 233 00:10:33,453 --> 00:10:36,772 Speaker 8: political agenda. Of course, once again with you, he's trying 234 00:10:36,773 --> 00:10:39,453 Speaker 8: to do a lot of things, and I think there 235 00:10:39,533 --> 00:10:42,453 Speaker 8: trying to privatize the public hospitals and that we don't 236 00:10:42,453 --> 00:10:44,732 Speaker 8: want about either. So some city stuff gown on right 237 00:10:44,732 --> 00:10:47,333 Speaker 8: now in the country and in Barazonas then I'm definitely 238 00:10:47,372 --> 00:10:50,692 Speaker 8: going I want to sick this in the three terms three. 239 00:10:50,252 --> 00:10:52,173 Speaker 2: What do you say about that's, Pete, that you know, 240 00:10:52,213 --> 00:10:54,773 Speaker 2: it's a nice idea that you have three years and 241 00:10:54,813 --> 00:10:56,413 Speaker 2: then if you if they're doing well, you give them 242 00:10:56,453 --> 00:11:02,893 Speaker 2: another three years. But but what say you know they're 243 00:11:02,892 --> 00:11:04,973 Speaker 2: not actually doing anything the three years because they're so 244 00:11:05,053 --> 00:11:07,372 Speaker 2: focused on telling the people what they want to hear 245 00:11:07,732 --> 00:11:10,253 Speaker 2: to get real elected, that they only do about a 246 00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:12,333 Speaker 2: year's worth of work once they've worked out what they 247 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:14,173 Speaker 2: want to do once they once they get in. So 248 00:11:14,252 --> 00:11:18,133 Speaker 2: we're actually getting short sighted governments that don't actually do anything. 249 00:11:20,252 --> 00:11:23,892 Speaker 8: Yes, but then again, I think what's happened is the 250 00:11:24,012 --> 00:11:27,372 Speaker 8: National Round now is crossing them there. Their polls are 251 00:11:27,372 --> 00:11:30,333 Speaker 8: going down with the fairies, and then how they've stopped that. 252 00:11:31,132 --> 00:11:35,132 Speaker 8: They want to promote progression and motivation and all that, 253 00:11:35,173 --> 00:11:38,533 Speaker 8: and Chris Luxon's saying that by pulling the pin on 254 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:41,573 Speaker 8: those theories was a dumb thing to do. That was motivation. 255 00:11:41,933 --> 00:11:43,932 Speaker 2: This is off topic though people about the fairies. I 256 00:11:44,173 --> 00:11:47,852 Speaker 2: disagree with you totally on that, but that's that's so 257 00:11:48,213 --> 00:11:50,813 Speaker 2: if the last government had been in, Tyler says, we 258 00:11:51,053 --> 00:11:52,893 Speaker 2: would have got those theories. Hang on, I don't want 259 00:11:52,892 --> 00:11:53,453 Speaker 2: talk about the feries. 260 00:11:54,012 --> 00:11:55,973 Speaker 3: Well, we've got to think about policies that you could 261 00:11:56,012 --> 00:11:57,973 Speaker 3: if you had an extra year up your sleeve as 262 00:11:57,973 --> 00:12:00,053 Speaker 3: a government, could you get more done? As the base 263 00:12:00,173 --> 00:12:03,093 Speaker 3: question without focusing on specific policies. And I brought up 264 00:12:03,093 --> 00:12:05,372 Speaker 3: theories to be honest, Pete, but that takes it away 265 00:12:05,413 --> 00:12:07,373 Speaker 3: from from what we're discussing here a little bit, but 266 00:12:07,612 --> 00:12:10,173 Speaker 3: on your argument, and could you not say one, why 267 00:12:10,213 --> 00:12:12,733 Speaker 3: not two years? And if they do well in those 268 00:12:12,773 --> 00:12:14,813 Speaker 3: two years, then they get another two years. 269 00:12:15,973 --> 00:12:18,413 Speaker 8: Now you're just going to realize, I said before, where 270 00:12:18,813 --> 00:12:22,013 Speaker 8: if we had another year of labor, this country would 271 00:12:22,012 --> 00:12:24,333 Speaker 8: have been buggered. So we don't want to go down 272 00:12:24,372 --> 00:12:26,853 Speaker 8: that track ever. Ever again, three years is fine, just 273 00:12:26,973 --> 00:12:30,412 Speaker 8: rolling over the perform Well, we're given them, they're going down, 274 00:12:30,453 --> 00:12:33,333 Speaker 8: putting the polls, all the poles I want poles now 275 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:35,813 Speaker 8: as far to you ignore the poles now the labor 276 00:12:35,852 --> 00:12:38,492 Speaker 8: polls and he has only glad their own trumpet prasent 277 00:12:38,573 --> 00:12:42,693 Speaker 8: last pole goes, don't ignore that totally. If the date's 278 00:12:42,693 --> 00:12:46,613 Speaker 8: started performing the next to the next eighteen months, the same, 279 00:12:46,693 --> 00:12:48,933 Speaker 8: all these things that a lot of people now that 280 00:12:50,012 --> 00:12:53,893 Speaker 8: now they're just fire people. There's a dictation ship going. Well, 281 00:12:53,973 --> 00:12:55,693 Speaker 8: if you're going to have experience it, we'll just can't 282 00:12:55,693 --> 00:12:56,293 Speaker 8: get rid of them. 283 00:12:56,333 --> 00:13:00,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, thanks for your opinion. Pizza is no, no, no, 284 00:13:00,213 --> 00:13:02,333 Speaker 2: three years is enough. 285 00:13:02,653 --> 00:13:04,213 Speaker 3: I mean it goes back to your point. That just 286 00:13:04,213 --> 00:13:06,732 Speaker 3: feels a bit of trouble. Right then, he was worried 287 00:13:06,732 --> 00:13:09,532 Speaker 3: about labor even another year, but there'd be people worried 288 00:13:09,533 --> 00:13:12,093 Speaker 3: about any government having another year or maybe not. 289 00:13:12,413 --> 00:13:14,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think it'd be very 290 00:13:14,093 --> 00:13:16,293 Speaker 2: controversial of a government seed right now we're going to 291 00:13:16,293 --> 00:13:19,013 Speaker 2: extend our own term. Yeah, so yeah, you have to 292 00:13:19,053 --> 00:13:20,892 Speaker 2: look at it in terms of just that being the 293 00:13:20,973 --> 00:13:23,053 Speaker 2: future going forward, and you know, you hope that you're 294 00:13:23,293 --> 00:13:25,693 Speaker 2: the government that you agree with has the best the 295 00:13:25,732 --> 00:13:28,132 Speaker 2: best sales pitch to get in for that. Four years absolutely. 296 00:13:28,173 --> 00:13:30,693 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 297 00:13:31,012 --> 00:13:34,453 Speaker 3: Is a four year government term better a better option 298 00:13:34,573 --> 00:13:36,533 Speaker 3: than three years that we currently have? When is that 299 00:13:36,573 --> 00:13:38,492 Speaker 3: the right numbers? Should we extend it out till five 300 00:13:38,612 --> 00:13:39,333 Speaker 3: like the UK does? 301 00:13:39,492 --> 00:13:41,813 Speaker 2: Yeah? How should we get a benevolent dictator that gets 302 00:13:42,453 --> 00:13:44,852 Speaker 2: that gets an aimless term so we can have fifty 303 00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:48,453 Speaker 2: year plans? Yeah? Yeah, And questions supplementary question should we 304 00:13:48,453 --> 00:13:49,333 Speaker 2: get rid of MP. 305 00:13:49,813 --> 00:13:52,132 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 306 00:13:52,173 --> 00:13:53,892 Speaker 3: to call? It is twenty one past one. 307 00:13:55,533 --> 00:13:59,933 Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, The mic asking breakfast. 308 00:13:59,492 --> 00:14:01,893 Speaker 9: Former Australian Prime miners to Scott Morrison is well us, 309 00:14:01,892 --> 00:14:03,973 Speaker 9: of course you're in the country to talk about economics, 310 00:14:04,012 --> 00:14:06,493 Speaker 9: which we're deeply interested in at the moment and trying 311 00:14:06,533 --> 00:14:09,412 Speaker 9: to grow the economy. So give us some advice from Australia. 312 00:14:09,453 --> 00:14:11,293 Speaker 2: How do you deal with the world. 313 00:14:11,053 --> 00:14:14,253 Speaker 9: And foreign investments and immigrants and their money without blowing 314 00:14:14,293 --> 00:14:15,012 Speaker 9: it up politically. 315 00:14:15,093 --> 00:14:17,652 Speaker 10: It's a tough equation to balance. The most important thing 316 00:14:17,732 --> 00:14:20,653 Speaker 10: is people need to understand that your immigration program has 317 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:23,413 Speaker 10: strong rules and they're enforced, and that your borders are secure. 318 00:14:23,453 --> 00:14:25,493 Speaker 10: In our experience in Australia, if people don't think the 319 00:14:25,533 --> 00:14:27,933 Speaker 10: rules are being followed and the system's being gained, they 320 00:14:27,973 --> 00:14:30,693 Speaker 10: won't buy it. But more broadly, on attracting foreign investment, 321 00:14:30,733 --> 00:14:33,973 Speaker 10: removed the barriers that are coming through regulation to improve competitiveness. 322 00:14:34,013 --> 00:14:35,333 Speaker 10: It's really not rocket science. 323 00:14:35,573 --> 00:14:38,853 Speaker 9: Back Monday from six am The Mike Asking Breakfast with 324 00:14:38,933 --> 00:14:41,253 Speaker 9: Mayby's Real Estate News Talk ZB. 325 00:14:41,373 --> 00:14:43,412 Speaker 3: Twenty four past one. We're talking about the idea of 326 00:14:43,453 --> 00:14:46,773 Speaker 3: a four year parliamentary term. Good idea or not? 327 00:14:47,773 --> 00:14:48,813 Speaker 2: Sam? Your thoughts on this? 328 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:55,893 Speaker 11: Okay, guys, Yeah, it has to a four year term? Well, 329 00:14:55,933 --> 00:14:58,853 Speaker 11: I be talking about would have been a nightmare of 330 00:14:58,933 --> 00:15:01,093 Speaker 11: just under it had two four year terms. I think 331 00:15:01,173 --> 00:15:04,373 Speaker 11: probably she would have been voted out after the first 332 00:15:04,373 --> 00:15:06,333 Speaker 11: four year terms and we would have only had four 333 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:06,853 Speaker 11: instead of. 334 00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:12,093 Speaker 3: Six years with theotentially, Yeah, yeah, because I think the 335 00:15:12,093 --> 00:15:13,973 Speaker 3: cracks are definitely started to show a bit more of 336 00:15:14,253 --> 00:15:15,532 Speaker 3: four years. 337 00:15:16,373 --> 00:15:18,973 Speaker 11: Conversely, conversely, you know, they can get more done in 338 00:15:19,053 --> 00:15:22,413 Speaker 11: four years. But these guys throwing at the moment, I've 339 00:15:22,453 --> 00:15:23,013 Speaker 11: got a fear. 340 00:15:24,293 --> 00:15:29,133 Speaker 2: Oh Sam, you're still there. We've lost Sam. Oh sorry Sam, Johnny, 341 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:30,693 Speaker 2: can you say that point again? You just you just 342 00:15:30,733 --> 00:15:32,173 Speaker 2: dipped out for a second what you're saying. 343 00:15:32,213 --> 00:15:36,013 Speaker 11: So, yeah, I think these guys right now probably really 344 00:15:36,053 --> 00:15:37,853 Speaker 11: what they're trying to do is just get re elected 345 00:15:37,893 --> 00:15:40,013 Speaker 11: so they can have another three year term where they 346 00:15:40,013 --> 00:15:43,133 Speaker 11: can really do a bit more. Yeah, you know, you 347 00:15:43,213 --> 00:15:45,213 Speaker 11: can set a bit of groundwork for that first three 348 00:15:45,293 --> 00:15:48,333 Speaker 11: years and then you know, you rip into it for 349 00:15:48,333 --> 00:15:52,373 Speaker 11: the next three years. But yeah, four year term you 350 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:54,573 Speaker 11: get a lot more tune. You can sort of make 351 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:55,733 Speaker 11: the difference. 352 00:15:55,293 --> 00:15:57,573 Speaker 12: And then yeah, if you get in, if you get 353 00:15:57,613 --> 00:15:59,453 Speaker 12: them again, you can really really keep going. 354 00:15:59,773 --> 00:16:03,293 Speaker 3: So genuine question, would we have to change the term 355 00:16:03,373 --> 00:16:05,453 Speaker 3: of local body election as well, because it kind of 356 00:16:05,493 --> 00:16:09,093 Speaker 3: sits quite nicely right that you have the general election 357 00:16:09,613 --> 00:16:12,333 Speaker 3: then in eighteen months you have the local body, then 358 00:16:12,373 --> 00:16:14,773 Speaker 3: eighteen months you're back to the general. So would you 359 00:16:14,853 --> 00:16:17,093 Speaker 3: have to change local body to four years as well? 360 00:16:18,973 --> 00:16:19,573 Speaker 2: Think you probably? 361 00:16:20,493 --> 00:16:23,253 Speaker 11: I think you've got more challenge to get people adged. 362 00:16:23,413 --> 00:16:25,573 Speaker 3: Well, that's why I asked, because you look at local 363 00:16:25,613 --> 00:16:27,853 Speaker 3: body now and am my, oh my, I mean Wellington. 364 00:16:28,053 --> 00:16:31,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, when was the last time we only had a 365 00:16:31,493 --> 00:16:34,133 Speaker 2: one term government? And that's the question because what we 366 00:16:34,213 --> 00:16:36,573 Speaker 2: generally get here is six It's kind of to further 367 00:16:36,653 --> 00:16:40,133 Speaker 2: what you're saying, Sam, we get six term government six 368 00:16:40,213 --> 00:16:45,853 Speaker 2: of your governments, because three years isn't normally enough time 369 00:16:45,973 --> 00:16:50,373 Speaker 2: for people to change their opinion around why they voted 370 00:16:50,613 --> 00:16:54,653 Speaker 2: a previous government out. Although you know, the news cyclers 371 00:16:54,853 --> 00:16:57,413 Speaker 2: are rotating so quickly now, three years might seem like 372 00:16:57,453 --> 00:17:00,253 Speaker 2: a lot longer in politics than it used to. People 373 00:17:00,293 --> 00:17:02,213 Speaker 2: seem to have shorter memories than they ever had before. 374 00:17:03,373 --> 00:17:09,453 Speaker 11: But yeah, but I suppose people don't have enough time 375 00:17:09,453 --> 00:17:14,133 Speaker 11: to get disenfranchised for the party two, which is I 376 00:17:14,173 --> 00:17:17,893 Speaker 11: think probably what we saw the last Labor government. You know, 377 00:17:17,933 --> 00:17:20,133 Speaker 11: they got re elected at three years and year COVID 378 00:17:20,253 --> 00:17:22,613 Speaker 11: probably had a lot to do with it. But if 379 00:17:23,133 --> 00:17:25,013 Speaker 11: that sort of had another year in power, I think 380 00:17:25,053 --> 00:17:27,573 Speaker 11: that's when the tide has turned, and they would. 381 00:17:27,373 --> 00:17:28,173 Speaker 13: Have been pointed out. 382 00:17:30,173 --> 00:17:31,853 Speaker 2: I wonder if we should just go six year terms, 383 00:17:31,893 --> 00:17:33,413 Speaker 2: because that's what we tend to get. We either get 384 00:17:33,693 --> 00:17:36,413 Speaker 2: two or three term governments. Just go six years. You've 385 00:17:36,453 --> 00:17:40,173 Speaker 2: got six years to get it done and if you don't, 386 00:17:40,213 --> 00:17:43,053 Speaker 2: then you're out. But that's your shot. That's your shot. 387 00:17:43,173 --> 00:17:45,973 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's an argument is to go to the Chinese 388 00:17:46,173 --> 00:17:48,413 Speaker 11: and don't worry about. 389 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:50,653 Speaker 2: Well, the ideal if we're Sam, if we could find 390 00:17:50,653 --> 00:17:54,693 Speaker 2: a benevolent dictator, like just super smart person that we 391 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:57,933 Speaker 2: all trust, that doesn't get corrupted by power, and so 392 00:17:58,013 --> 00:18:00,533 Speaker 2: we could have fifty year plans, then that would be 393 00:18:00,573 --> 00:18:02,373 Speaker 2: a good thing. The only the only problem is these 394 00:18:02,373 --> 00:18:04,893 Speaker 2: dictators they don't they tend to go crazy. Pretty good 395 00:18:05,093 --> 00:18:05,453 Speaker 2: they turn. 396 00:18:05,493 --> 00:18:07,173 Speaker 3: I mean they get stuff done, no doubt about it, 397 00:18:07,213 --> 00:18:08,493 Speaker 3: but they start to turn pretty quick. 398 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:10,573 Speaker 2: Get a bit Jijingping on it, you know, they get 399 00:18:10,573 --> 00:18:14,853 Speaker 2: a bit Caligula on it. 400 00:18:14,773 --> 00:18:18,613 Speaker 11: It's unfortunately, democracy the best of the worst case. 401 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:20,573 Speaker 5: Exactly. 402 00:18:23,773 --> 00:18:26,373 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think if you call Sam, appreciate it. 403 00:18:26,413 --> 00:18:28,613 Speaker 2: You have a great day and a great weekend. 404 00:18:28,893 --> 00:18:31,253 Speaker 3: You asked a question before how many one term governments 405 00:18:31,253 --> 00:18:33,573 Speaker 3: have we had in our history here in New Zealand. 406 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,733 Speaker 2: So we've had two, right when were they? 407 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:39,293 Speaker 3: So it was the second Labor government led by Walton 408 00:18:39,373 --> 00:18:41,493 Speaker 3: Nash nineteen fifty seven to nineteen. 409 00:18:41,213 --> 00:18:43,653 Speaker 2: Sixty, humiliating Nash yep. 410 00:18:43,773 --> 00:18:46,933 Speaker 3: And the second one was the third Labor government led 411 00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:50,253 Speaker 3: by Norman Kirk and Bill Rowlan nineteen. 412 00:18:49,933 --> 00:18:52,533 Speaker 2: Seventy two to seventy four. That's interesting. So we've essentially 413 00:18:52,573 --> 00:18:57,853 Speaker 2: had six or nine year governments. Yeah, in our whole history. 414 00:18:58,133 --> 00:19:00,213 Speaker 2: Apart from those, we tend to give people the chants, 415 00:19:00,253 --> 00:19:02,333 Speaker 2: don't we to go again? I mean, the Poles aren't 416 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:06,853 Speaker 2: going swillingly at the moment for the coalition, but you know, 417 00:19:06,893 --> 00:19:10,453 Speaker 2: as the economy gets better, you can seem likely to 418 00:19:10,493 --> 00:19:11,573 Speaker 2: me that they'll get back in. 419 00:19:11,933 --> 00:19:14,013 Speaker 3: I think we're a fear lot though, and maybe I'm 420 00:19:14,013 --> 00:19:16,093 Speaker 3: starting to change my mind about this four year term 421 00:19:16,173 --> 00:19:19,173 Speaker 3: that as a country we seem to give the governments 422 00:19:19,213 --> 00:19:21,773 Speaker 3: a shot that hate three year the first term might 423 00:19:21,853 --> 00:19:23,453 Speaker 3: not have gone so well, but we'll give you the 424 00:19:23,493 --> 00:19:24,733 Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt for another go. 425 00:19:25,213 --> 00:19:27,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, so effectively that success. But it still comes back 426 00:19:28,093 --> 00:19:30,532 Speaker 2: to the situation now where a covent government is going 427 00:19:30,573 --> 00:19:33,933 Speaker 2: to start campaigning to get re elected now and not 428 00:19:34,013 --> 00:19:37,733 Speaker 2: necessarily doing that making the hard decisions that are unpopular 429 00:19:37,773 --> 00:19:40,093 Speaker 2: that need to be made that pay off in the 430 00:19:40,093 --> 00:19:43,773 Speaker 2: long term. So you know, within about six months now 431 00:19:43,813 --> 00:19:45,693 Speaker 2: the government will go into full re election mode. They 432 00:19:45,733 --> 00:19:49,253 Speaker 2: will which wasn't enough time and work mode. 433 00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:51,613 Speaker 3: And arguably some of the little guys have already started. 434 00:19:51,813 --> 00:19:54,013 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 435 00:19:54,013 --> 00:19:55,773 Speaker 3: to call headlines with Raylene coming up. 436 00:19:58,973 --> 00:20:02,413 Speaker 14: You've talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's 437 00:20:02,493 --> 00:20:05,933 Speaker 14: no trouble with the Blue bubble Labour's calling Another senior 438 00:20:05,973 --> 00:20:10,733 Speaker 14: health system public servants resignatetion a blood bath. Director General 439 00:20:10,773 --> 00:20:15,773 Speaker 14: of Health Diana Sarfati resigned today finishing next Friday, following 440 00:20:15,773 --> 00:20:20,173 Speaker 14: the Health ENZ CEO and the Public Health Director A 441 00:20:20,253 --> 00:20:23,533 Speaker 14: disruptive passengers forced a Air New Zealand flight from Auckland 442 00:20:23,573 --> 00:20:27,013 Speaker 14: to Dunedin to Divert to Wellington, where she was removed. 443 00:20:27,813 --> 00:20:31,053 Speaker 14: Agleader David Seymour says the government still committed to New Zealand, 444 00:20:31,253 --> 00:20:34,653 Speaker 14: exploring a four year parliamentary term is promised on the 445 00:20:34,693 --> 00:20:39,413 Speaker 14: campaign trail. Auckland's Southern Motorway is now fully reopened. With 446 00:20:39,493 --> 00:20:43,813 Speaker 14: residual congestions slowly clearing after a motorcyclist died in a 447 00:20:43,813 --> 00:20:47,613 Speaker 14: collision with a truck this morning. 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The cost of New Zealand's recession each 453 00:21:09,093 --> 00:21:12,173 Speaker 14: key we likely to end up twelve seven hundred dollars 454 00:21:12,213 --> 00:21:13,693 Speaker 14: worse off on average. 455 00:21:13,733 --> 00:21:14,413 Speaker 2: New figures. 456 00:21:14,733 --> 00:21:17,333 Speaker 14: You can find out more at Ends and Herald Premium. 457 00:21:17,573 --> 00:21:19,893 Speaker 14: Back to Matt Eith and Tyler Adams. 458 00:21:19,573 --> 00:21:21,653 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about 459 00:21:21,693 --> 00:21:25,733 Speaker 3: the idea of a four year parliamentary term. David Seymour, 460 00:21:26,053 --> 00:21:28,333 Speaker 3: on the back of a speech to the Auckland Chamber 461 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:32,213 Speaker 3: of Commerce, said that there will be a bill introduced 462 00:21:32,213 --> 00:21:35,733 Speaker 3: to Parliament very shortly on a four year political term. 463 00:21:35,813 --> 00:21:37,973 Speaker 3: Where it goes from there is still up for debates. 464 00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:42,133 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so that the aim would be to have 465 00:21:42,293 --> 00:21:44,853 Speaker 2: a binding referendum I'm assuming in the next selection. 466 00:21:45,133 --> 00:21:47,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we need a referendum, 467 00:21:47,893 --> 00:21:51,133 Speaker 3: you reckon just go for it. I reckon that if 468 00:21:51,133 --> 00:21:53,453 Speaker 3: the parties, if they can get a majority on that 469 00:21:53,453 --> 00:21:55,613 Speaker 3: bill and all decide that that is a good thing, 470 00:21:56,013 --> 00:21:58,413 Speaker 3: they might put it out for submissions to the general public. 471 00:21:58,893 --> 00:22:00,773 Speaker 2: I could be wrong on this, So I think things 472 00:22:00,853 --> 00:22:04,773 Speaker 2: like this. Constitutional changes like this do require a referendum. 473 00:22:06,213 --> 00:22:09,093 Speaker 2: I think you'll change that. You want to get a 474 00:22:09,093 --> 00:22:13,613 Speaker 2: Trumpeton here, they're just signs, big steake menus and holds 475 00:22:13,653 --> 00:22:18,133 Speaker 2: them up right. O one hundred eighty ten eighty is 476 00:22:18,173 --> 00:22:19,653 Speaker 2: a four year term? Sensible? 477 00:22:19,853 --> 00:22:22,053 Speaker 3: Is that the right amount? I mean, do we even 478 00:22:22,173 --> 00:22:23,853 Speaker 3: need to look at what they do in the UK 479 00:22:24,053 --> 00:22:26,173 Speaker 3: have a five year term? O hundred eighty ten eighty's 480 00:22:26,253 --> 00:22:26,693 Speaker 3: the number? 481 00:22:26,773 --> 00:22:29,453 Speaker 2: Call Tim, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this. 482 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:33,453 Speaker 15: Yeah, we had our own trump because that was Sir 483 00:22:33,533 --> 00:22:40,093 Speaker 15: Robert Muldoon. But I'm all for the four year term 484 00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:43,453 Speaker 15: with a big caveat. We have a three year term 485 00:22:43,573 --> 00:22:46,973 Speaker 15: because in nineteen fifty five we did away with the 486 00:22:47,013 --> 00:22:50,693 Speaker 15: Upper House of Parliament. Now if we bring back the 487 00:22:50,733 --> 00:22:54,733 Speaker 15: upper House of Parliament, I'll be all for the four 488 00:22:54,813 --> 00:22:55,293 Speaker 15: year term. 489 00:22:55,493 --> 00:22:57,933 Speaker 2: Can you explain how can you explain how the upper 490 00:22:57,933 --> 00:22:59,453 Speaker 2: House of Parliament works him. 491 00:23:01,973 --> 00:23:04,453 Speaker 15: You'd have to talk to a constitutional lawyer about that. 492 00:23:04,533 --> 00:23:10,773 Speaker 15: But even Jeffrey Palmer, our former Prime minister, he described 493 00:23:10,853 --> 00:23:14,893 Speaker 15: MW Zealand's parliament as the wild West of parliament in 494 00:23:14,933 --> 00:23:18,213 Speaker 15: the Western world because there isn't the chicks and dances. 495 00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:21,013 Speaker 15: Young have to look at sender House to force through 496 00:23:21,013 --> 00:23:25,733 Speaker 15: the firearms changes just overnight. You know, that sort of 497 00:23:25,733 --> 00:23:28,373 Speaker 15: thing should have gone through and upper hose to Parliament. 498 00:23:29,133 --> 00:23:34,053 Speaker 2: And so effectively, so you carry on to the room. 499 00:23:34,373 --> 00:23:37,093 Speaker 15: Is still there in the Parliament building. I've been in 500 00:23:37,173 --> 00:23:39,493 Speaker 15: the Upper House of Parliament. It's still there and it's 501 00:23:39,613 --> 00:23:42,573 Speaker 15: used for the King's Speech and on things like that. 502 00:23:42,893 --> 00:23:46,213 Speaker 15: It's all there. We just have to bring it ooken 503 00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:50,253 Speaker 15: some people and bring it back. And that's what we 504 00:23:50,333 --> 00:23:57,533 Speaker 15: need is up at another and yeah, so it was called. 505 00:23:57,373 --> 00:24:00,653 Speaker 2: The it was called the Legislative Council. The Leigiers of 506 00:24:00,693 --> 00:24:02,853 Speaker 2: Council was part of New Zealand's parliament for almost one 507 00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:05,853 Speaker 2: hundred years. The Legiers of Council was the upper house 508 00:24:05,853 --> 00:24:07,613 Speaker 2: of New zealand parliament until nine to fifty one. It 509 00:24:07,693 --> 00:24:10,053 Speaker 2: was modeled on the British House of Lords, unlike the 510 00:24:10,053 --> 00:24:14,173 Speaker 2: elected House of Representatives, Council members were appointed, so then 511 00:24:14,213 --> 00:24:15,773 Speaker 2: every law has to go through them, and you get 512 00:24:15,813 --> 00:24:18,253 Speaker 2: that kind of situation we have in the States. Yeah, 513 00:24:18,253 --> 00:24:21,133 Speaker 2: where you've got the Congress and the House of Representatives 514 00:24:20,853 --> 00:24:24,613 Speaker 2: and you know, or the House of Lords in the UK. 515 00:24:25,053 --> 00:24:26,933 Speaker 2: But that doesn't that just stop anything happening. 516 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:30,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if that's appointed by the Governor General. I 517 00:24:32,093 --> 00:24:35,653 Speaker 3: don't know how I feel about that. I mean, effectively, Yeah, 518 00:24:35,733 --> 00:24:37,853 Speaker 3: you've got a House of Lords, so that is appointed 519 00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:40,013 Speaker 3: by the Governor General, who was appointed by the King 520 00:24:40,053 --> 00:24:40,573 Speaker 3: of England. 521 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:41,893 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. 522 00:24:41,973 --> 00:24:44,093 Speaker 3: The more I think about the upper House. Hear what 523 00:24:44,093 --> 00:24:45,973 Speaker 3: you're saying, Tim, But I think we've got it pretty 524 00:24:46,013 --> 00:24:46,453 Speaker 3: well now. 525 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:50,653 Speaker 2: Sure, in your thoughts, three years. 526 00:24:51,813 --> 00:24:55,653 Speaker 16: And no more, no less. Two's not enough and four 527 00:24:55,733 --> 00:24:59,693 Speaker 16: is too much. And the idea has been bandied around 528 00:25:00,013 --> 00:25:05,053 Speaker 16: many many years ago, rejected and you neglect the collective 529 00:25:05,093 --> 00:25:11,413 Speaker 16: wisdom of the electorate, that your peril. There's no argument. 530 00:25:11,773 --> 00:25:13,933 Speaker 16: It's just it's just a no goer. 531 00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:14,773 Speaker 14: Yeah. 532 00:25:14,773 --> 00:25:16,893 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but you would be taking as a referendum, 533 00:25:16,893 --> 00:25:20,053 Speaker 2: so you wouldn't be ignoring the electorate, would you. You'd 534 00:25:20,093 --> 00:25:22,053 Speaker 2: be finding out from them whether they want a four 535 00:25:22,093 --> 00:25:24,173 Speaker 2: year term. But you're quite right. It was rejected in 536 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:27,973 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, I believe. Yeah, sixty eight percent of 537 00:25:28,053 --> 00:25:30,333 Speaker 2: voters rejected a four year term in a referendum in 538 00:25:30,373 --> 00:25:33,573 Speaker 2: ninety sixty seven and again in nineteen ninety by sixty 539 00:25:34,093 --> 00:25:37,053 Speaker 2: nine percent. Do you think, Sean, it would be popular. 540 00:25:37,253 --> 00:25:38,493 Speaker 2: You don't like the idea of it, but do you 541 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:40,973 Speaker 2: think it would go through if it was put to referendum? 542 00:25:41,013 --> 00:25:41,173 Speaker 7: Now? 543 00:25:42,213 --> 00:25:42,493 Speaker 17: Nope. 544 00:25:45,813 --> 00:25:50,053 Speaker 16: I'm ninety years old and I've seen quite a bit 545 00:25:50,133 --> 00:25:54,133 Speaker 16: of coming and going and I'm quite happy with what 546 00:25:54,173 --> 00:25:58,573 Speaker 16: we've got. It works, and if something's working, you don't 547 00:25:58,573 --> 00:25:59,013 Speaker 16: fix it. 548 00:25:59,293 --> 00:26:01,813 Speaker 2: So, Sean, you would have voted in the nineteen sixty 549 00:26:01,853 --> 00:26:04,693 Speaker 2: seven and nineteen sixty nine referendum, so I assume you 550 00:26:04,773 --> 00:26:07,133 Speaker 2: voted no back then if you can remember. 551 00:26:08,453 --> 00:26:11,013 Speaker 16: I can't remember what I did, but I don't think 552 00:26:11,013 --> 00:26:12,893 Speaker 16: that I would have voted for it. 553 00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:16,253 Speaker 3: If it does go to a referendum, Sean, and it 554 00:26:16,253 --> 00:26:19,413 Speaker 3: goes to the public and we or New Zealand decide 555 00:26:19,413 --> 00:26:21,773 Speaker 3: that we do go to a four year term, you will. 556 00:26:21,493 --> 00:26:23,453 Speaker 2: Just accept that. Well, you'll have to accept that. But 557 00:26:23,893 --> 00:26:25,693 Speaker 2: do you think he's going to hit the streets. Well 558 00:26:26,773 --> 00:26:27,573 Speaker 2: you're going to protest that. 559 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:32,013 Speaker 16: Sure, No, I'm not a protester, but I am quite 560 00:26:32,013 --> 00:26:37,853 Speaker 16: good at putting my idea forward ware of it gains 561 00:26:37,853 --> 00:26:38,733 Speaker 16: fertile ground. 562 00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:40,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on you, Sean. Thank you for your call. 563 00:26:40,813 --> 00:26:42,853 Speaker 2: You're a sprightly ninety year old. I'll give you that, Sean. 564 00:26:43,053 --> 00:26:46,173 Speaker 3: A quick couple of texts here, guys, the idea of 565 00:26:46,173 --> 00:26:50,733 Speaker 3: a four year term seemed logical until the Durn Labor 566 00:26:50,773 --> 00:26:55,573 Speaker 3: government who brought in a lot of policies that caused 567 00:26:55,613 --> 00:26:56,693 Speaker 3: a lot of damage. 568 00:26:56,733 --> 00:27:00,733 Speaker 2: That's from Sarah. Yeah, although someone you know, I can't 569 00:27:00,773 --> 00:27:02,893 Speaker 2: remember who was called before. Sorry, I had a big 570 00:27:02,973 --> 00:27:05,173 Speaker 2: night last night at the Changey's where I won an award. 571 00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:07,253 Speaker 3: Well deserved. Congratulations by the way. 572 00:27:07,373 --> 00:27:10,613 Speaker 2: I just thought of bring that up. But potentially a 573 00:27:10,693 --> 00:27:13,693 Speaker 2: government doesn't get again, what we generally get is a 574 00:27:13,693 --> 00:27:16,093 Speaker 2: minimum of six years. Only twice in their entire history, 575 00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,053 Speaker 2: as you're saying before, Tyler, have we had three year 576 00:27:18,773 --> 00:27:23,052 Speaker 2: a one term government. So generally you get six years. 577 00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:26,333 Speaker 2: So there would be a potential that that Labor government 578 00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:27,933 Speaker 2: would have only been in there for four because things 579 00:27:27,933 --> 00:27:30,293 Speaker 2: were going off the boil, and the one year into 580 00:27:30,293 --> 00:27:33,533 Speaker 2: their second term. Yep, this is an interesting idea. Guys. 581 00:27:33,573 --> 00:27:36,333 Speaker 3: How about four years? But if you get re elected, 582 00:27:36,373 --> 00:27:39,053 Speaker 3: your subsequent term is only three years before the next 583 00:27:39,093 --> 00:27:39,853 Speaker 3: election from Blake. 584 00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:42,812 Speaker 2: Okay, that's an idea, but why what would that be 585 00:27:42,893 --> 00:27:44,413 Speaker 2: It's kind of a punishment for doing well. 586 00:27:45,453 --> 00:27:47,173 Speaker 3: It should be the other way that it's three years 587 00:27:47,173 --> 00:27:48,733 Speaker 3: and if you do well this four years? 588 00:27:48,813 --> 00:27:50,893 Speaker 2: Is that just because you don't want people being in 589 00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:54,253 Speaker 2: there for eight years? That that's an interesting one. And 590 00:27:54,253 --> 00:27:55,733 Speaker 2: then your third term would that be two years? 591 00:27:57,293 --> 00:27:57,493 Speaker 18: Yeah? 592 00:27:58,573 --> 00:28:00,373 Speaker 2: What happens if you get you get four years and 593 00:28:00,413 --> 00:28:03,533 Speaker 2: if you do the next terms ten years because because 594 00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:05,693 Speaker 2: they get a bit complicated, because you've proven yourself over 595 00:28:05,733 --> 00:28:07,532 Speaker 2: four years that you're doing a great job, so then 596 00:28:07,573 --> 00:28:09,373 Speaker 2: you've earned yourself right for ten years old. 597 00:28:09,373 --> 00:28:11,213 Speaker 3: I like the idea of a reward. Maybe he give 598 00:28:11,213 --> 00:28:13,093 Speaker 3: them two years and then if they do well, give 599 00:28:13,093 --> 00:28:15,173 Speaker 3: them four years. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 600 00:28:15,213 --> 00:28:17,653 Speaker 3: the number to go, Peter, four year terms? 601 00:28:17,693 --> 00:28:19,653 Speaker 2: You into it well. 602 00:28:20,013 --> 00:28:23,213 Speaker 19: Next Smith before he was need of a Young Nationals 603 00:28:23,893 --> 00:28:28,253 Speaker 19: meeting before the nineteen eighty four election where Label won. 604 00:28:29,453 --> 00:28:31,773 Speaker 19: Bob Jones was going to address the meeting, but because 605 00:28:31,773 --> 00:28:35,133 Speaker 19: he started the New Zealand Party. I think Philip Burdhon, 606 00:28:36,133 --> 00:28:40,973 Speaker 19: former MP, may have canceled his invitation. So and the 607 00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:45,373 Speaker 19: talk of all these young like next Smith, Oh no, 608 00:28:45,653 --> 00:28:48,013 Speaker 19: labor are going to get in next time and we 609 00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:51,013 Speaker 19: don't want it, you know. So you know we can't 610 00:28:51,013 --> 00:28:57,173 Speaker 19: agree at the moment. And it's the same Neil all round, 611 00:28:57,173 --> 00:29:01,973 Speaker 19: isn't it. People really need to understand economics because whatever 612 00:29:02,453 --> 00:29:05,453 Speaker 19: party you gave for already doesn't change much. JST hasn't 613 00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:08,813 Speaker 19: gone down despite the opposition at the time. Oh no, 614 00:29:08,933 --> 00:29:12,533 Speaker 19: it's outrage, it's going up. And just like National said 615 00:29:12,573 --> 00:29:15,813 Speaker 19: it was an outrage introducing it still happened. And you 616 00:29:15,853 --> 00:29:19,293 Speaker 19: know Michael Hudson, he's an economs and said, you know, 617 00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:21,453 Speaker 19: deck gets written off. You know, so many people just 618 00:29:21,453 --> 00:29:24,573 Speaker 19: don't understand. You know, the banks create the money from 619 00:29:24,573 --> 00:29:29,053 Speaker 19: nowhere and it's user plays with donations and the speech 620 00:29:29,293 --> 00:29:31,053 Speaker 19: is how much money you have. And if you're a 621 00:29:31,053 --> 00:29:34,613 Speaker 19: party in Parliament you get more speech than if you're 622 00:29:34,693 --> 00:29:39,053 Speaker 19: someone who's not in parliament, and it's quite hard to 623 00:29:39,253 --> 00:29:42,213 Speaker 19: challenge in it. So I think we need single transferable 624 00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:45,213 Speaker 19: vote so you can decide, you know, whether they put 625 00:29:45,213 --> 00:29:49,533 Speaker 19: the party pet up or not you can vote for 626 00:29:49,573 --> 00:29:52,093 Speaker 19: someone else. That's that's the real issue is who you 627 00:29:52,093 --> 00:29:53,013 Speaker 19: were voting for. 628 00:29:53,613 --> 00:29:56,133 Speaker 3: So you're more sorry to jump in there, Peter, you're 629 00:29:56,133 --> 00:30:00,613 Speaker 3: more talking about Matt's wants of bringing back Foost pass 630 00:30:00,653 --> 00:30:03,333 Speaker 3: the post rather than the four year parliamentary term. 631 00:30:04,173 --> 00:30:06,933 Speaker 19: Well, I'll be happy for single transferable vote. 632 00:30:06,933 --> 00:30:07,933 Speaker 20: But because of. 633 00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:12,053 Speaker 19: The idea that New Zealand doers rely on royal commissions 634 00:30:12,053 --> 00:30:13,813 Speaker 19: that say m MP was the one to go, and 635 00:30:13,933 --> 00:30:16,613 Speaker 19: Jim Bolder said, well, if you choose m MP, we're 636 00:30:16,613 --> 00:30:19,573 Speaker 19: going to get give you twenty more MPs. So people 637 00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:22,213 Speaker 19: did what you know, politicians tell them not to do 638 00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:26,053 Speaker 19: something that's a guarantee for kiwis, they'll do it. And 639 00:30:26,053 --> 00:30:28,133 Speaker 19: it's just like David Singore saying, oh vote for a 640 00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:28,733 Speaker 19: four year term. 641 00:30:28,773 --> 00:30:29,573 Speaker 13: Will they wait? 642 00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:35,813 Speaker 19: It's the same deal, but single transferable vote means and 643 00:30:35,893 --> 00:30:38,653 Speaker 19: some elseils have it. You ranked the person you want 644 00:30:38,773 --> 00:30:41,333 Speaker 19: in order in number, whereas first past the post. You 645 00:30:41,413 --> 00:30:45,773 Speaker 19: might have two good candidates and if the other one 646 00:30:45,813 --> 00:30:47,653 Speaker 19: is on the list and gets in, that's good, but 647 00:30:47,733 --> 00:30:51,693 Speaker 19: if not, you know, it's an opportunity loss. I like 648 00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:55,013 Speaker 19: the free market, you know, competition at election, trying to 649 00:30:55,093 --> 00:30:58,173 Speaker 19: choose the best candidate regardless. 650 00:30:57,693 --> 00:31:00,333 Speaker 2: Of colors, so single faster a vote. It's a multi 651 00:31:00,413 --> 00:31:04,533 Speaker 2: winner electrical electoral electoral system in which each voter casts 652 00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:06,733 Speaker 2: a single vote in the form of a ranked ballot. 653 00:31:07,093 --> 00:31:09,613 Speaker 2: Voters have the option to rank candidates and their vote 654 00:31:09,613 --> 00:31:13,213 Speaker 2: may be transferred according to alternative preferences if their preferred 655 00:31:13,213 --> 00:31:17,013 Speaker 2: candidate is eliminated or elected with surplus votes, so that 656 00:31:17,053 --> 00:31:19,933 Speaker 2: their vote is used to elect someone they prefer over 657 00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:21,053 Speaker 2: others in the running. 658 00:31:21,493 --> 00:31:23,973 Speaker 3: They still do it in some of the local body elections. 659 00:31:24,013 --> 00:31:26,693 Speaker 3: I think for the health board down in Christs. 660 00:31:26,253 --> 00:31:28,053 Speaker 5: Is still health boards. 661 00:31:28,173 --> 00:31:30,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, no more health No more health boards. 662 00:31:30,573 --> 00:31:33,133 Speaker 3: What was it all health boards that had STV or 663 00:31:33,173 --> 00:31:34,893 Speaker 3: was it just specific. 664 00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:36,733 Speaker 11: Yeah? 665 00:31:36,853 --> 00:31:42,773 Speaker 19: So yeah, no. Things are getting worse economically speaking, and 666 00:31:43,333 --> 00:31:45,573 Speaker 19: I thought a lot of the voting age to five 667 00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:47,333 Speaker 19: to make up for the people in the rest home 668 00:31:47,813 --> 00:31:53,213 Speaker 19: whose votes may be collected. Because I remember when Ross Perro, 669 00:31:53,293 --> 00:31:56,653 Speaker 19: Bill Clinton and I can't remember who the Republican candidate, 670 00:31:56,693 --> 00:31:58,733 Speaker 19: they went to it kindergarten and then ask them who 671 00:31:58,733 --> 00:32:00,653 Speaker 19: they are going to vote for, and they got the 672 00:32:00,693 --> 00:32:04,933 Speaker 19: same MANswers that they get anywhere else. I thought that 673 00:32:05,053 --> 00:32:06,773 Speaker 19: was quite good, but At the end of the day, 674 00:32:06,813 --> 00:32:09,973 Speaker 19: money rules us. Regardless at which party you vote for, 675 00:32:10,093 --> 00:32:12,733 Speaker 19: they decide how much money to take or how much 676 00:32:12,773 --> 00:32:14,893 Speaker 19: money to give you, or how much money to spend. 677 00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,653 Speaker 19: It's all about the budget that that's really and the 678 00:32:17,733 --> 00:32:22,453 Speaker 19: laws and regardless of what flavor it is, that's still there. 679 00:32:22,453 --> 00:32:25,533 Speaker 19: And Michael Hudson said, you know, in ancient times, I 680 00:32:25,693 --> 00:32:29,213 Speaker 19: used to write off the debt, and Obama saved the 681 00:32:29,293 --> 00:32:33,453 Speaker 19: bankers over saving the householders who got the debt and 682 00:32:33,493 --> 00:32:37,653 Speaker 19: couldn't pay it to keep their house and alleging fortunately 683 00:32:38,093 --> 00:32:41,893 Speaker 19: loan situation. So that really the politicians are bought and 684 00:32:41,973 --> 00:32:47,973 Speaker 19: paid for with respect to donations and lobbying and propaganda 685 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:52,013 Speaker 19: through whatever, you know. Education system you get doesn't really 686 00:32:52,093 --> 00:32:54,333 Speaker 19: teach you about the money system. 687 00:32:54,453 --> 00:32:55,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for you call Peter. 688 00:32:55,893 --> 00:32:57,613 Speaker 3: So he give a lot of threads there that Peter 689 00:32:57,853 --> 00:32:59,653 Speaker 3: was discussing. I mean they just go back to the 690 00:33:00,533 --> 00:33:01,213 Speaker 3: voting system. 691 00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:02,213 Speaker 2: Unpacked that for a minute. 692 00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:05,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, the voting system so STV. Honestly, when we had 693 00:33:05,973 --> 00:33:08,293 Speaker 3: health boards, I know it was single transferable vote. 694 00:33:09,453 --> 00:33:11,813 Speaker 2: Are people onto it enough to deal with that kind 695 00:33:11,813 --> 00:33:14,173 Speaker 2: of system? I mean you've got to get obviously, like 696 00:33:14,213 --> 00:33:17,573 Speaker 2: in my opinion, MP's the worst, absolute worst. Bring back 697 00:33:17,573 --> 00:33:18,813 Speaker 2: first past the post yep. 698 00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:21,733 Speaker 21: But you want a clear winer well, just because back then, 699 00:33:21,973 --> 00:33:24,253 Speaker 21: if you were say a you know you, you were 700 00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:26,453 Speaker 21: your MP for your electric you fought for your electorate 701 00:33:26,653 --> 00:33:29,053 Speaker 21: and you might argue within your party for something that's 702 00:33:29,093 --> 00:33:31,093 Speaker 21: really important for the place you are from. 703 00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:33,293 Speaker 2: So you'd go to your constituents, you talk to them, 704 00:33:33,333 --> 00:33:35,693 Speaker 2: and you'd come to apartment. With first past the post, 705 00:33:35,733 --> 00:33:38,133 Speaker 2: it's like you're just going up against the leaders. Everyone's 706 00:33:38,173 --> 00:33:41,973 Speaker 2: in line within the party and you just have Labor National. 707 00:33:42,013 --> 00:33:44,773 Speaker 2: They have their line. You don't have the guy that's 708 00:33:45,053 --> 00:33:47,533 Speaker 2: trekking up from from South to Needin to tell you 709 00:33:48,213 --> 00:33:50,133 Speaker 2: what the people from South to need and need. 710 00:33:50,413 --> 00:33:52,333 Speaker 3: I like the idea that things get done if it's 711 00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:54,373 Speaker 3: first past the post and you've only got one party 712 00:33:54,453 --> 00:33:56,333 Speaker 3: in government, then things get done. 713 00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:59,053 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'll ever think about that and 714 00:33:59,093 --> 00:34:00,253 Speaker 2: come back with some more thoughts. 715 00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:05,213 Speaker 3: Very shortly it is fordeen to two, come. 716 00:34:05,053 --> 00:34:06,453 Speaker 4: And chat with the lads On. 717 00:34:08,413 --> 00:34:12,693 Speaker 1: And Taylor afternoons with the Volvo X ninety tick every box, 718 00:34:12,893 --> 00:34:15,333 Speaker 1: a seamless experience awaits news talks. 719 00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:20,693 Speaker 2: We're talking four year terms because ACT are going to 720 00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:25,293 Speaker 2: introduce a bill to discuss whether we should have four 721 00:34:25,373 --> 00:34:28,973 Speaker 2: year terms, a binding referendum for four years terms and 722 00:34:29,013 --> 00:34:32,213 Speaker 2: the next election. Your thoughts on this, Ben. 723 00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:41,293 Speaker 5: Well, first water, first time I've agreed with Act. Four 724 00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:44,293 Speaker 5: years is not enough. You look at China, they got 725 00:34:44,293 --> 00:34:47,692 Speaker 5: this four hundred year plan going on and playing. 726 00:34:50,773 --> 00:34:52,212 Speaker 22: But look we seem to do. 727 00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,453 Speaker 2: That's right, four hundred years. 728 00:34:56,493 --> 00:34:58,453 Speaker 3: I mean that is a hell of a long parliamentary term, 729 00:34:58,493 --> 00:34:59,453 Speaker 3: isn't it. 730 00:34:59,293 --> 00:35:01,573 Speaker 5: That is that is you know, we could take over 731 00:35:01,613 --> 00:35:05,253 Speaker 5: the world, you know, and look we don't because we 732 00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:08,732 Speaker 5: get a government and they have these pans, I don't 733 00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,453 Speaker 5: quite get there. And then then comes the next government 734 00:35:11,893 --> 00:35:15,653 Speaker 5: and undose those plans and tries to get implement their plans, 735 00:35:15,893 --> 00:35:18,373 Speaker 5: and then they don't quite get there. And this is 736 00:35:18,453 --> 00:35:22,172 Speaker 5: just going on ever since. Well you get first start 737 00:35:22,173 --> 00:35:25,933 Speaker 5: supposed you can't have three kings in one castle. Yeah, 738 00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:28,053 Speaker 5: and when my father in law comes over, you know, 739 00:35:28,133 --> 00:35:32,413 Speaker 5: it's just nuts, uh, And that's yeah, we get nowhere 740 00:35:32,453 --> 00:35:34,773 Speaker 5: doing that, but it needs to be longer. 741 00:35:35,013 --> 00:35:37,212 Speaker 2: I mean the idea, in the ideal world, you'd have 742 00:35:37,453 --> 00:35:41,373 Speaker 2: the perfect government of people that were smart, had a 743 00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:45,573 Speaker 2: good plan and weren't corrupt and weren't going to let 744 00:35:45,573 --> 00:35:48,133 Speaker 2: the power go to the head and don't start imprisoning 745 00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:51,213 Speaker 2: people and be hitting people. But it tends to go 746 00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:54,013 Speaker 2: that way, and you can see that in China now 747 00:35:54,053 --> 00:35:57,692 Speaker 2: with the Xijingping there's some pretty paranoid decisions getting made now. 748 00:35:58,253 --> 00:36:00,173 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting though. You look at Singapore with the 749 00:36:00,253 --> 00:36:03,053 Speaker 2: junta over there. They seem to make really good decisions. 750 00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:04,693 Speaker 2: But boy, but you don't want to drop it. You 751 00:36:04,693 --> 00:36:06,172 Speaker 2: don't want to you don't want to drop your gum 752 00:36:06,173 --> 00:36:08,293 Speaker 2: on the pavement. You don't want to break a law 753 00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:10,013 Speaker 2: in Singapore. But they seem to be They seem to 754 00:36:10,053 --> 00:36:11,413 Speaker 2: run their infrastructure very well. 755 00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:16,973 Speaker 3: They get held up as yeah, thank. 756 00:36:16,853 --> 00:36:17,613 Speaker 2: You very much, thank you. 757 00:36:18,493 --> 00:36:21,733 Speaker 3: And that is a fair argument that there's these big 758 00:36:21,773 --> 00:36:22,453 Speaker 3: things and. 759 00:36:22,493 --> 00:36:24,853 Speaker 2: The caller gets sick of us talking to him and leave. 760 00:36:25,213 --> 00:36:29,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries Ben. But yeah, the argument 761 00:36:29,733 --> 00:36:31,692 Speaker 3: that we don't get things done here because we've got 762 00:36:31,693 --> 00:36:35,253 Speaker 3: a short parliamentary term, so policy is put in place 763 00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:37,692 Speaker 3: and then somebody else gets elected and pushes that down. 764 00:36:37,693 --> 00:36:39,893 Speaker 3: But that's what referendums are for, right. If there's a 765 00:36:39,933 --> 00:36:42,732 Speaker 3: big decision, that's the can's been kicked down the road. 766 00:36:42,853 --> 00:36:44,893 Speaker 3: That is what a referendum should be for that you 767 00:36:44,933 --> 00:36:47,613 Speaker 3: put it out to the general population. Hey, do we 768 00:36:47,653 --> 00:36:49,973 Speaker 3: want to extend the age of retirement? Do we want 769 00:36:50,013 --> 00:36:52,573 Speaker 3: to extend it to a four year parliamentary term? Those 770 00:36:52,613 --> 00:36:56,013 Speaker 3: are big decisions that where as a country should be 771 00:36:56,053 --> 00:36:57,133 Speaker 3: making by a referendum. 772 00:36:57,413 --> 00:36:57,652 Speaker 5: Yeah. 773 00:36:57,733 --> 00:36:59,853 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm annoyed at the m MP referendum because 774 00:37:00,213 --> 00:37:02,973 Speaker 2: my big sister talked me into voting for m MP. 775 00:37:03,093 --> 00:37:04,773 Speaker 2: I didn't even know what it was, what it was 776 00:37:04,813 --> 00:37:07,053 Speaker 2: back then, and so I've got that sitting in my 777 00:37:07,373 --> 00:37:09,173 Speaker 2: I hate him MP. I think it's a terrible system. 778 00:37:09,453 --> 00:37:12,692 Speaker 2: And that's sitting because there was just a wave for it, 779 00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:14,533 Speaker 2: wasn't there. Well, what happened was we thought if a 780 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,373 Speaker 2: first place of the post, what was happening was governments 781 00:37:17,573 --> 00:37:20,373 Speaker 2: which had a less of the popular vote were getting 782 00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:22,893 Speaker 2: in power due to you know, the numbers and different 783 00:37:22,893 --> 00:37:25,172 Speaker 2: electorates and such. So we thought MP would be a great, 784 00:37:25,213 --> 00:37:25,732 Speaker 2: great move. 785 00:37:25,813 --> 00:37:29,053 Speaker 3: And wasn't the question not really fit for purpose? It 786 00:37:29,093 --> 00:37:32,933 Speaker 3: was effectively, do you want to change MMP to lower 787 00:37:32,973 --> 00:37:34,173 Speaker 3: the three shold to four percent? 788 00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:36,533 Speaker 2: Or something? Wrong? Those lines? I mean, all these years later, 789 00:37:36,693 --> 00:37:39,133 Speaker 2: still most of us are two dumb to even understand MMP, 790 00:37:39,853 --> 00:37:41,573 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right. 791 00:37:41,653 --> 00:37:44,093 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 792 00:37:44,173 --> 00:37:46,773 Speaker 3: call where late, but will be placed some messages and 793 00:37:46,813 --> 00:37:48,173 Speaker 3: back with more of your calls very shortly. 794 00:37:48,213 --> 00:37:48,773 Speaker 2: It's eight to. 795 00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:55,133 Speaker 1: Two Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on, Oh, eight 796 00:37:55,253 --> 00:37:58,173 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoons with the 797 00:37:58,293 --> 00:38:03,133 Speaker 1: Volvo xc N eighty, ticking every box a seamless experience, AWAITS. 798 00:38:02,813 --> 00:38:07,413 Speaker 3: News talks, MB news TALKSB four year parliamentary terms. 799 00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:10,413 Speaker 2: Good idea or not? And do you want to throw 800 00:38:10,493 --> 00:38:13,493 Speaker 2: out m MP as I do? Beryl you're a fan 801 00:38:13,533 --> 00:38:17,573 Speaker 2: of STV, Yes, but but. 802 00:38:17,613 --> 00:38:20,493 Speaker 23: Guys, I was supposed to have been before Ben and 803 00:38:20,653 --> 00:38:22,173 Speaker 23: Ben God came before me. 804 00:38:23,133 --> 00:38:24,692 Speaker 3: I know that you wouldn't get that with the first 805 00:38:24,733 --> 00:38:26,613 Speaker 3: part past the post system. 806 00:38:27,133 --> 00:38:30,933 Speaker 23: No, you wouldn't. You know, you definitely wouldn't. Anyway, it's 807 00:38:30,973 --> 00:38:35,253 Speaker 23: not been fault, probably your fault there. Anyway, I'm for 808 00:38:35,493 --> 00:38:39,573 Speaker 23: STV and actually you'll find in some electoral cases, as 809 00:38:39,613 --> 00:38:45,293 Speaker 23: you've already said that it is actually happening. And just 810 00:38:45,373 --> 00:38:45,813 Speaker 23: be with me. 811 00:38:46,413 --> 00:38:48,213 Speaker 3: Well, I make you go on. 812 00:38:49,053 --> 00:38:51,533 Speaker 2: You're making a lot of rules here, Beryl, I could have. 813 00:38:51,573 --> 00:38:54,213 Speaker 23: Said what I had to say, guys, just quickly. I 814 00:38:54,253 --> 00:38:58,333 Speaker 23: think a three year term should stay in because if 815 00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:02,253 Speaker 23: someone said a little bit before that, they can always 816 00:39:02,293 --> 00:39:05,573 Speaker 23: get voted back in. I don't blame your sympathy everything 817 00:39:06,173 --> 00:39:09,373 Speaker 23: I did vote here, but the sandy the country was 818 00:39:09,413 --> 00:39:12,933 Speaker 23: a disaster, and if you bring up England, I wouldn't 819 00:39:13,013 --> 00:39:16,212 Speaker 23: use England as a comparison. I've got family opens there 820 00:39:16,573 --> 00:39:20,173 Speaker 23: and at a sage year god they it's been absolutely 821 00:39:20,253 --> 00:39:25,613 Speaker 23: terribly policit, terrible politically in England between both parties. Actually, 822 00:39:25,813 --> 00:39:29,853 Speaker 23: so yes I'm for STZ and yes I am for 823 00:39:29,893 --> 00:39:34,373 Speaker 23: a three year, three year election whatever good. 824 00:39:34,213 --> 00:39:36,973 Speaker 2: Stuff, Beryl. She's also for phone calls being answered in 825 00:39:37,053 --> 00:39:38,933 Speaker 2: order that they come through. She was hot on that one, 826 00:39:38,973 --> 00:39:40,893 Speaker 2: wasn't you how You've got to respect it. She's got passion. 827 00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:43,253 Speaker 2: She she leaves in fairness. 828 00:39:43,293 --> 00:39:45,453 Speaker 3: She was making all the demands. Thank you very much, 829 00:39:45,453 --> 00:39:49,773 Speaker 3: Beryl and everybody else who got involved in that discussion. 830 00:39:50,613 --> 00:39:52,413 Speaker 3: We're going to change things up after two o'clock. We 831 00:39:52,453 --> 00:39:54,573 Speaker 3: want to talk about booze and festivals. 832 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:55,772 Speaker 2: Let's go yeah. 833 00:39:55,813 --> 00:39:57,373 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 834 00:39:57,413 --> 00:40:00,773 Speaker 3: number to call nine two nine two is the text number. News, 835 00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:03,693 Speaker 3: sport and weather coming up very shortly. You're listening to 836 00:40:03,693 --> 00:40:06,093 Speaker 3: matt and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to you. 837 00:40:07,693 --> 00:40:11,013 Speaker 4: You're you home for insateful and entertaining talk. 838 00:40:11,173 --> 00:40:15,413 Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC 839 00:40:15,653 --> 00:40:17,253 Speaker 1: nighty on News Talk SEV. 840 00:40:18,373 --> 00:40:21,573 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Six past two. 841 00:40:22,013 --> 00:40:26,053 Speaker 2: Happy Valentine's Day. Thank you mate. No, it's I keep saying. 842 00:40:26,053 --> 00:40:27,893 Speaker 2: I'm saying it to the listener. You know what did 843 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:30,973 Speaker 2: you give me? No, I'm saying it to their country. 844 00:40:31,133 --> 00:40:32,933 Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, I mean you're a generous man. 845 00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:35,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want you to have not a happy 846 00:40:35,213 --> 00:40:35,893 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. 847 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:36,093 Speaker 20: Yeah. 848 00:40:36,093 --> 00:40:37,613 Speaker 3: I got some of that love as well. I felt it. 849 00:40:37,813 --> 00:40:38,213 Speaker 3: I felt it. 850 00:40:38,253 --> 00:40:40,333 Speaker 2: You're part of it. You're one of the five million people. 851 00:40:40,693 --> 00:40:43,773 Speaker 3: You're a beautiful man, very generous. Right on to this topic, 852 00:40:43,973 --> 00:40:46,693 Speaker 3: which will be a good discussion. So Alex Turnbull, he 853 00:40:46,733 --> 00:40:50,053 Speaker 3: has hosted a huge outdoor party nestled in the beautiful 854 00:40:50,093 --> 00:40:54,693 Speaker 3: Kadrona valley, lush foothills each New Year. A lot of 855 00:40:54,733 --> 00:40:57,333 Speaker 3: people would know what it's called rhythm and alps. So 856 00:40:57,333 --> 00:41:00,053 Speaker 3: he's running for fifteen years, and over that fifteen years, 857 00:41:00,373 --> 00:41:04,053 Speaker 3: he says he's had approximately six to seven people arrested 858 00:41:04,093 --> 00:41:06,773 Speaker 3: over those fifteen years for getting a little bit out 859 00:41:06,813 --> 00:41:08,133 Speaker 3: of control behavior wise. 860 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:10,652 Speaker 2: So that's safest. So you've got ten thousand people there, 861 00:41:10,653 --> 00:41:14,213 Speaker 2: which is a small town. Yeah, and so six rests 862 00:41:14,613 --> 00:41:18,373 Speaker 2: over fifteen years nothing that is good behavior. That means 863 00:41:18,373 --> 00:41:23,093 Speaker 2: that you were running a very safe, happy festival, absolutely, 864 00:41:23,093 --> 00:41:26,093 Speaker 2: and authorities should respect that. That you've shown that you've 865 00:41:26,093 --> 00:41:27,693 Speaker 2: got good governance. You think so. 866 00:41:27,893 --> 00:41:30,292 Speaker 3: But at the end of twenty twenty three, Turnbull found 867 00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:33,453 Speaker 3: himself at a district licensing committee hearing where police and 868 00:41:33,493 --> 00:41:37,053 Speaker 3: health authorities were doing something unusual, fighting his request to 869 00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:40,933 Speaker 3: sell punters for alcoholic drinks at a time they instantly 870 00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:44,133 Speaker 3: opposed it, says Turnbull. He went on to say that 871 00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:47,333 Speaker 3: that is a massive challenge because without alcohol sales, quite rightly, 872 00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:50,293 Speaker 3: Rhythm and Alps and many other festivals would not be profitable. 873 00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:52,773 Speaker 3: There's no way we could run it, absolutely no way. 874 00:41:52,973 --> 00:41:55,292 Speaker 3: He went on to say, Yeah, I think. 875 00:41:55,253 --> 00:41:59,013 Speaker 2: This is symptomatica of across the board. As I was 876 00:41:59,053 --> 00:42:01,333 Speaker 2: saying before, I went to a music festival recently and 877 00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:03,373 Speaker 2: they kept on telling me to take my sunglasses off. 878 00:42:03,373 --> 00:42:04,773 Speaker 2: So that was a new rule. They always come up 879 00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:07,853 Speaker 2: with these new rules to baby you. So I'm a 880 00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:11,533 Speaker 2: growing and I've got kids. I Am going up to 881 00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:13,652 Speaker 2: buy a drink and they're saying, you've got to take 882 00:42:13,653 --> 00:42:15,533 Speaker 2: your sunglasses off before you buy this drink. You're only 883 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,573 Speaker 2: allowed to buy these many drinks. They don't trust you. 884 00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:19,013 Speaker 2: They think you're just going to go around the corner 885 00:42:19,013 --> 00:42:21,213 Speaker 2: and drink all four but beers. So what so what 886 00:42:21,253 --> 00:42:22,893 Speaker 2: if you did buy four drinks and when a drink 887 00:42:22,933 --> 00:42:25,453 Speaker 2: them the south or you're going back to share them 888 00:42:25,493 --> 00:42:28,732 Speaker 2: with people. We're adults. Stop treating us like children. If 889 00:42:29,053 --> 00:42:31,493 Speaker 2: you commit a crime, if you start behaving badly, that's 890 00:42:31,493 --> 00:42:34,053 Speaker 2: when you punish people. But this, I don't know how 891 00:42:34,053 --> 00:42:36,053 Speaker 2: we need to We've got to stop this because it 892 00:42:36,093 --> 00:42:38,133 Speaker 2: makes it really hard for people to do things and 893 00:42:38,213 --> 00:42:41,933 Speaker 2: festivals and New Zealanders getting together. It's so important. These 894 00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:45,173 Speaker 2: are the moments you remember in life. And these places 895 00:42:45,213 --> 00:42:46,733 Speaker 2: need to make money or else they can't do it. 896 00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:49,253 Speaker 2: They're not charities. And the one way they make money 897 00:42:49,373 --> 00:42:51,453 Speaker 2: is from the booze. And one thing that people want 898 00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:53,453 Speaker 2: to do when they're at these festivals is drink booze, 899 00:42:53,653 --> 00:42:55,893 Speaker 2: So stop treating us like children. 900 00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:58,692 Speaker 3: It's effectively litting to tell me to take my glasses off. 901 00:42:59,013 --> 00:42:59,933 Speaker 3: Were hot on that one. 902 00:43:00,333 --> 00:43:02,413 Speaker 2: We need to start shaming people that come up with rules. 903 00:43:02,453 --> 00:43:04,253 Speaker 2: If someone comes up with the rules like people have 904 00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:07,653 Speaker 2: to take off their sunglasses before they get a served, 905 00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:10,653 Speaker 2: we need to start calling them bosses. We need to 906 00:43:10,693 --> 00:43:15,693 Speaker 2: start doing you can handle them and having a few drinks, 907 00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:16,773 Speaker 2: you know, then we need to go back to that 908 00:43:16,853 --> 00:43:18,893 Speaker 2: kind of attitude to these people, a good public shaming. 909 00:43:18,973 --> 00:43:21,973 Speaker 3: I like it was the next question, sir, how many 910 00:43:22,013 --> 00:43:24,773 Speaker 3: of you had to drink over the course of today, Like, 911 00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:27,293 Speaker 3: none of your business at fifteen dozens. 912 00:43:27,733 --> 00:43:29,893 Speaker 2: It's just give me my beer. It's no business of yours. 913 00:43:29,933 --> 00:43:32,773 Speaker 2: What's on my eyes or what's been in my stomach, 914 00:43:32,933 --> 00:43:35,653 Speaker 2: that's absolutely none of your business. If I'm committing a crime, 915 00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:38,813 Speaker 2: then sure arrest me. If I start just running around 916 00:43:39,173 --> 00:43:42,293 Speaker 2: throwing haymakers, then sure arrest me. I mean, I'm not 917 00:43:42,333 --> 00:43:45,773 Speaker 2: even sure why we're not allowed to be drunk like. 918 00:43:45,973 --> 00:43:48,172 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not causing any problems, they can 919 00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:49,973 Speaker 2: legislate the state of your mind. 920 00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:52,853 Speaker 3: I mean, there's something that's happened and I don't quite 921 00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:55,893 Speaker 3: understand it, but over the past eighteen months to two years, 922 00:43:55,973 --> 00:44:00,613 Speaker 3: these district licensing committee hearings are effectively zero alcohol. 923 00:44:00,653 --> 00:44:03,453 Speaker 2: They don't want alcohol at any event or anywhere. 924 00:44:03,973 --> 00:44:06,053 Speaker 3: What was the policy change that all of a sudden 925 00:44:06,093 --> 00:44:09,493 Speaker 3: police are so so empty alcohol. Yes, they've always had 926 00:44:09,493 --> 00:44:11,733 Speaker 3: a bit of a problem with it, you know, in 927 00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:14,533 Speaker 3: bars and all that stuff about when a bar can 928 00:44:14,533 --> 00:44:16,053 Speaker 3: close and when it can open, and the one door 929 00:44:16,093 --> 00:44:16,573 Speaker 3: policy and. 930 00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:17,533 Speaker 2: All that sort of a lava. 931 00:44:17,653 --> 00:44:20,253 Speaker 3: But something crazy has happened that all of a sudden, 932 00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:22,293 Speaker 3: what we have no alcohol anywhere? 933 00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,293 Speaker 2: And is the harm being done by alcohol in the 934 00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:26,933 Speaker 2: community from people that are going out having few drinks 935 00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,453 Speaker 2: at a festival? Is that where the harm is? 936 00:44:28,493 --> 00:44:28,613 Speaker 24: That? 937 00:44:28,733 --> 00:44:30,973 Speaker 2: Is that the cold face of problems in our society 938 00:44:30,973 --> 00:44:33,653 Speaker 2: around alcohol? I don't think so. When people are involved 939 00:44:33,693 --> 00:44:36,413 Speaker 2: in positive things off and over the holiday break and 940 00:44:36,493 --> 00:44:38,732 Speaker 2: people have gone out on a limb, they've risked money, 941 00:44:38,773 --> 00:44:40,813 Speaker 2: they've put together this thing together, they've got these bands, 942 00:44:40,853 --> 00:44:42,773 Speaker 2: they've got performance to come in, so that they've got 943 00:44:42,813 --> 00:44:44,893 Speaker 2: a risk. People go, they're having a good time. They 944 00:44:44,893 --> 00:44:46,652 Speaker 2: want to drink andy, want to have a dance. Is 945 00:44:46,693 --> 00:44:50,373 Speaker 2: that where you want to screw people down, hard working 946 00:44:50,413 --> 00:44:52,573 Speaker 2: New Zealanders that are letting off some steam. Is that 947 00:44:52,613 --> 00:44:54,973 Speaker 2: the people that you want to belittle, but telling them 948 00:44:55,013 --> 00:44:57,893 Speaker 2: to get their glasses off and act. Look, if we 949 00:44:57,933 --> 00:44:59,853 Speaker 2: treat people like babies, the lack like babies. 950 00:44:59,613 --> 00:45:01,893 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, I love the 951 00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:04,453 Speaker 3: passion from you man nineteen ninety ten. 952 00:45:04,613 --> 00:45:06,413 Speaker 2: To be clear, I'm not angry at the security guards 953 00:45:06,413 --> 00:45:07,893 Speaker 2: that do it or the people that are working at 954 00:45:07,933 --> 00:45:10,172 Speaker 2: the bar. If they tell me to take my sunglasses off, 955 00:45:10,173 --> 00:45:13,133 Speaker 2: I'll do it because they're just minimum wage people just 956 00:45:13,173 --> 00:45:15,333 Speaker 2: getting their job done. It's not their fault. The people 957 00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:17,732 Speaker 2: we need to shame are the people that are making 958 00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:19,933 Speaker 2: these decisions that are at these meetings. It's letting the 959 00:45:19,933 --> 00:45:20,573 Speaker 2: the kids win. 960 00:45:20,773 --> 00:45:23,212 Speaker 3: And there's dick kids anywhere you go. But I saw 961 00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:26,013 Speaker 3: they were trying to ban somebody having a beer at 962 00:45:26,053 --> 00:45:27,453 Speaker 3: a beach in the middle of the day. If you 963 00:45:27,493 --> 00:45:28,973 Speaker 3: want to go down there and have a picnic with 964 00:45:29,013 --> 00:45:31,133 Speaker 3: your family and have one can of beer because it's 965 00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:33,533 Speaker 3: a Saturday afternoon, why can't you do that? Why do 966 00:45:33,573 --> 00:45:35,773 Speaker 3: you let the dick kids win. We're letting the scaredy 967 00:45:35,813 --> 00:45:37,213 Speaker 3: cats and the chicken lickings. 968 00:45:37,453 --> 00:45:39,493 Speaker 2: Decide how we live our lives. And if you do 969 00:45:39,613 --> 00:45:42,533 Speaker 2: that then nothing will ever happen and our country will 970 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:45,693 Speaker 2: slowly grind to a very safe halt. 971 00:45:47,933 --> 00:45:50,373 Speaker 3: Ten eighty is the number to call. Ninety two is 972 00:45:50,413 --> 00:45:55,613 Speaker 3: the text number. It's twelve fast too. 973 00:45:54,213 --> 00:45:58,212 Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons 974 00:45:58,253 --> 00:46:02,213 Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special. 975 00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:05,373 Speaker 4: Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be. 976 00:46:06,973 --> 00:46:10,252 Speaker 2: It is a quarter past two, lads. I'm Irish living 977 00:46:10,293 --> 00:46:12,213 Speaker 2: here for years and it feels like we live in 978 00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:17,013 Speaker 2: a nursing home. It's ficking madness. If e c ki 979 00:46:17,173 --> 00:46:19,213 Speaker 2: n he spelt it okay, the Irish way as well, 980 00:46:19,253 --> 00:46:23,053 Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, very good. Case you thought I swore 981 00:46:23,093 --> 00:46:25,933 Speaker 2: I did not. Yeah, well there's something to that. 982 00:46:26,213 --> 00:46:29,533 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're from somewhere like Ireland, and I'm 983 00:46:29,573 --> 00:46:31,893 Speaker 3: not saying or Irish, you know a bunch of drunks. 984 00:46:31,893 --> 00:46:35,652 Speaker 3: But Europe or the UK, their alcohol, the way that 985 00:46:35,653 --> 00:46:37,973 Speaker 3: they deal with alcohol was a lot more relaxed than 986 00:46:37,973 --> 00:46:39,693 Speaker 3: how we do it here, right, I mean. 987 00:46:40,293 --> 00:46:41,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was talking about this to you 988 00:46:41,693 --> 00:46:44,253 Speaker 2: last year. How I was walking along the canals in 989 00:46:44,253 --> 00:46:46,333 Speaker 2: London and my sister goes to me. This was last year, 990 00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:49,133 Speaker 2: and my sister goes to me, should we get a pint? 991 00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:50,813 Speaker 2: And I said, oh, yeah, but it's nice out. I 992 00:46:50,813 --> 00:46:52,213 Speaker 2: don't really go into gues and I we'll just go 993 00:46:52,293 --> 00:46:54,692 Speaker 2: into the pub by a pint each and they put 994 00:46:54,693 --> 00:46:56,973 Speaker 2: it in a plastic cup so you don't steal the 995 00:46:57,013 --> 00:46:58,933 Speaker 2: point last and then you just can leave. You need 996 00:46:59,053 --> 00:47:02,252 Speaker 2: to take away pint from a pub. And she's lived 997 00:47:02,253 --> 00:47:04,213 Speaker 2: over there for twenty years, so for her and I 998 00:47:04,253 --> 00:47:05,893 Speaker 2: was going, wow, are we allowed to leave? I was 999 00:47:05,933 --> 00:47:07,692 Speaker 2: trying to hide it. I couldn't believe it. He goes, 1000 00:47:07,893 --> 00:47:09,373 Speaker 2: what why Why wouldn't you be able to buy a 1001 00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:11,053 Speaker 2: pint and walk out of a pub? And that's it. 1002 00:47:11,093 --> 00:47:13,413 Speaker 3: And if we did that here, everybody would freakat having 1003 00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:15,013 Speaker 3: a beer at a McDonald's for example. 1004 00:47:15,093 --> 00:47:18,533 Speaker 2: When we first started having alcohol, are at cinemas freaked out. 1005 00:47:18,573 --> 00:47:21,453 Speaker 2: I always judge people that start their text with wow, Wow, 1006 00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:24,573 Speaker 2: you guys really have no idea about alcohol harm in 1007 00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:28,213 Speaker 2: the community or events. The number of assaults and hospitalizations 1008 00:47:28,213 --> 00:47:29,933 Speaker 2: that come from large events. Really, because we're just talking 1009 00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:32,333 Speaker 2: about this one and there's only been six arrests in 1010 00:47:32,453 --> 00:47:35,933 Speaker 2: fifteen years. Now, ten thousand people are at the festival. 1011 00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:39,973 Speaker 3: And festivals more than any other I think you know 1012 00:47:40,013 --> 00:47:43,172 Speaker 3: they know what they're doing in terms of someone who's 1013 00:47:43,213 --> 00:47:44,973 Speaker 3: had too much to drink or is making a ticket 1014 00:47:45,013 --> 00:47:48,692 Speaker 3: to themselves. They have absolutely processes in place to get 1015 00:47:48,773 --> 00:47:49,573 Speaker 3: rid of those dickets. 1016 00:47:50,133 --> 00:47:50,613 Speaker 2: And that's it. 1017 00:47:50,653 --> 00:47:52,373 Speaker 3: If you want to if you want to buy four 1018 00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:54,973 Speaker 3: drinks at at the front of the bar and you 1019 00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:56,893 Speaker 3: want to drink all those four drinks yourself, as long 1020 00:47:56,933 --> 00:47:59,853 Speaker 3: as you're not making a dicky yourself and causing harm 1021 00:47:59,893 --> 00:48:01,093 Speaker 3: to other people, then you'll be fine. 1022 00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:03,252 Speaker 2: Well you should be final. Do you know who never 1023 00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:05,533 Speaker 2: assaults anyone at a music festival? Who? 1024 00:48:05,693 --> 00:48:05,773 Speaker 12: Me? 1025 00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:11,453 Speaker 2: Exactly? Ray thoughts on this on festivals and the crackdown 1026 00:48:11,693 --> 00:48:12,813 Speaker 2: on serving alcohol. 1027 00:48:14,293 --> 00:48:17,613 Speaker 7: So guy, I completely agree with what you're saying. I 1028 00:48:17,653 --> 00:48:20,652 Speaker 7: love my festivals and my festivals. I love to push 1029 00:48:20,733 --> 00:48:22,933 Speaker 7: the boat out, have a couple of bears, have a 1030 00:48:22,973 --> 00:48:25,133 Speaker 7: bit of a party, and I just want to correct 1031 00:48:25,133 --> 00:48:27,613 Speaker 7: that last season new text in But they don't know 1032 00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:30,813 Speaker 7: what they're talking about. So of all the flaws I've 1033 00:48:30,853 --> 00:48:33,813 Speaker 7: been to and all the woman's I've been to, I've 1034 00:48:33,853 --> 00:48:37,293 Speaker 7: never seen people get aggressive. I've certainly never seen people 1035 00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:42,133 Speaker 7: get taken out for fighting. I would suggest that might 1036 00:48:42,173 --> 00:48:46,173 Speaker 7: happen occasionally at younger events and I'm thinking probably Rhythm 1037 00:48:46,253 --> 00:48:49,692 Speaker 7: and Vines, But at events where there are adults, as 1038 00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:53,333 Speaker 7: an adult and like predominantly people over about age thirty, 1039 00:48:53,853 --> 00:48:57,533 Speaker 7: you will not see people getting too drunk or too 1040 00:48:57,613 --> 00:49:00,453 Speaker 7: out of it or creating problems for any of the 1041 00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:02,692 Speaker 7: other festival goers. And you know what they are really 1042 00:49:02,693 --> 00:49:07,373 Speaker 7: interesting is like the festivals such as On such as 1043 00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:12,293 Speaker 7: kerry Burn and ex Shipwreck and Export used to be 1044 00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:16,453 Speaker 7: full buyo. They used to have no restrictions on people 1045 00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,013 Speaker 7: and just trusted the people would do the right thing 1046 00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:22,413 Speaker 7: and not create havoc and cast other people. And the 1047 00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:26,213 Speaker 7: vestials which still do that now, which is On and Cuban, 1048 00:49:26,493 --> 00:49:28,652 Speaker 7: they just say their problems, like the police don't need 1049 00:49:28,693 --> 00:49:32,293 Speaker 7: to go there because people are you know, being violent 1050 00:49:32,493 --> 00:49:34,453 Speaker 7: or being aggressive or even being two out of it. 1051 00:49:34,573 --> 00:49:37,493 Speaker 7: And I think the more rules we put on adults 1052 00:49:38,053 --> 00:49:42,813 Speaker 7: about restricting their behavior at vessels and parties, it's just 1053 00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:46,413 Speaker 7: like walderism. It's just it's just it's just it's not 1054 00:49:46,573 --> 00:49:49,933 Speaker 7: it's a lot of its interests of allowing adults to 1055 00:49:49,973 --> 00:49:51,813 Speaker 7: be responsible for themselves. 1056 00:49:52,533 --> 00:49:54,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. As I was saying before, this isn't 1057 00:49:54,653 --> 00:49:57,973 Speaker 2: the cult face of alcohol harm in our community festivals 1058 00:49:58,013 --> 00:50:01,893 Speaker 2: where people going along to enjoy music, they're very happy places. 1059 00:50:02,373 --> 00:50:05,692 Speaker 2: They're not. They're not. I'm with you, Ray, I've never 1060 00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:08,613 Speaker 2: seen a fight at a festival. I've never seen. I've 1061 00:50:08,613 --> 00:50:13,173 Speaker 2: seen people get annoyed about someone standing on their picnic blanket. 1062 00:50:13,453 --> 00:50:16,493 Speaker 2: That's about as agro as I've ever seen it at 1063 00:50:16,493 --> 00:50:19,373 Speaker 2: a festival. And I remember in Auckland there used to 1064 00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:21,413 Speaker 2: be the summer series. It was in Albert Park and 1065 00:50:21,453 --> 00:50:25,373 Speaker 2: you could just bring in. You could bring in a 1066 00:50:25,453 --> 00:50:28,773 Speaker 2: chili bin and have you drink and watch music. It 1067 00:50:28,813 --> 00:50:31,773 Speaker 2: never seemed to be a major drama. Society didn't collapse. 1068 00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:32,013 Speaker 14: It was. 1069 00:50:33,973 --> 00:50:36,772 Speaker 15: Thanks you guys. 1070 00:50:36,853 --> 00:50:41,773 Speaker 7: Know where the majority of violence relates to alcohol happens, right, 1071 00:50:41,813 --> 00:50:44,813 Speaker 7: It happens at home. It doesn't happen in bars and 1072 00:50:44,893 --> 00:50:49,013 Speaker 7: my cousins family, doesn't happen at festivals. Unfortunately, the majority 1073 00:50:49,093 --> 00:50:52,212 Speaker 7: of alcohol related violence happens on the home. 1074 00:50:53,773 --> 00:50:58,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not these friendly fun places 1075 00:50:58,853 --> 00:51:00,652 Speaker 2: where people let off steam, they have a little bit 1076 00:51:00,653 --> 00:51:03,653 Speaker 2: of dance. They're there to have it, have you experienced 1077 00:51:03,733 --> 00:51:05,893 Speaker 2: ray what I experienced at a festival. They told me 1078 00:51:05,893 --> 00:51:08,093 Speaker 2: to take my sunglasses off before I bought drinks. 1079 00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:12,373 Speaker 7: I've never heard of that from my fast. I feel 1080 00:51:12,373 --> 00:51:14,413 Speaker 7: like I feel like I'm about the same age, and 1081 00:51:15,053 --> 00:51:17,133 Speaker 7: I would just I just don't know what i'd say. 1082 00:51:17,653 --> 00:51:19,213 Speaker 7: I'd probably make you serious. 1083 00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was really confused when I was asked. 1084 00:51:21,613 --> 00:51:24,853 Speaker 2: But I'm really conscious not to be addic to people 1085 00:51:24,933 --> 00:51:26,893 Speaker 2: that have just doing their job. You know what I mean. 1086 00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:29,053 Speaker 2: It's you've got to we've got to be a dick 1087 00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:30,933 Speaker 2: to the people above that, the people that come up 1088 00:51:30,933 --> 00:51:35,613 Speaker 2: with these layers of stupid rules. Because people don't push back, 1089 00:51:35,653 --> 00:51:38,613 Speaker 2: that's the thing they go harm. So now I've come 1090 00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:40,652 Speaker 2: up with this new one, and if anyone anyone pushes back, 1091 00:51:40,693 --> 00:51:41,973 Speaker 2: they say, well, we won't get you. We won't, you 1092 00:51:41,973 --> 00:51:43,453 Speaker 2: won't be able to do your festival, you'll go out 1093 00:51:43,453 --> 00:51:47,053 Speaker 2: of business. Unless you agree to our rules, you won't. 1094 00:51:47,093 --> 00:51:48,733 Speaker 2: We won't give you your license. So they come up 1095 00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:53,373 Speaker 2: with something as ridiculous as making adults who live in 1096 00:51:53,413 --> 00:51:56,613 Speaker 2: this country, who pay taxes, who have kids, in my case, 1097 00:51:57,013 --> 00:52:00,573 Speaker 2: like children. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, it sounds sounds like we're 1098 00:52:00,573 --> 00:52:01,173 Speaker 2: on the same page. 1099 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:05,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, cheers, Ray, thank you very much so much for 1100 00:52:05,653 --> 00:52:08,652 Speaker 3: your call. Yeah, and again, I just can't understand. These 1101 00:52:08,693 --> 00:52:11,973 Speaker 3: licensing committees have existed for a long time. Why is 1102 00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:13,733 Speaker 3: it over the last couple of years they seem to 1103 00:52:13,773 --> 00:52:15,053 Speaker 3: want to shut everything down? 1104 00:52:15,093 --> 00:52:16,653 Speaker 2: What happened? What was that policy? 1105 00:52:16,733 --> 00:52:20,493 Speaker 3: What has gone on with the police in particular that 1106 00:52:20,613 --> 00:52:23,053 Speaker 3: they want to have all these events alcohol free? I 1107 00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:25,413 Speaker 3: don't understand it because there hasn't been a big uptick 1108 00:52:25,733 --> 00:52:26,613 Speaker 3: in these festivals. 1109 00:52:27,333 --> 00:52:30,853 Speaker 2: I just think we're becoming a society where safety always 1110 00:52:30,893 --> 00:52:33,373 Speaker 2: wins the argument. So you can point to a potential 1111 00:52:33,373 --> 00:52:35,453 Speaker 2: harm that could happen, and you can list off some 1112 00:52:35,573 --> 00:52:37,453 Speaker 2: terrible things that happen, and there's no denying that terrible 1113 00:52:37,453 --> 00:52:40,053 Speaker 2: things happen on alcohol. I totally agree with that. That's fine. 1114 00:52:40,253 --> 00:52:42,293 Speaker 2: But you can list those things off and then you 1115 00:52:42,413 --> 00:52:45,373 Speaker 2: just shut down the conversation, and then you threaten people's 1116 00:52:45,693 --> 00:52:47,973 Speaker 2: license to sell alcohol at the event, which means that 1117 00:52:47,973 --> 00:52:50,293 Speaker 2: they could not run the event, and it just wouldn't happen. Right, 1118 00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:52,093 Speaker 2: So you've got these people up, but you know you're 1119 00:52:52,133 --> 00:52:54,573 Speaker 2: holding them hostage. Really, so we need to shame back 1120 00:52:54,573 --> 00:52:56,973 Speaker 2: the other way there used to be if someone said 1121 00:52:56,973 --> 00:53:02,373 Speaker 2: something like that, you'd go, didn'ts O. Come on, mate, 1122 00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:05,333 Speaker 2: blame grow up. You know, we need to shame back 1123 00:53:05,413 --> 00:53:06,493 Speaker 2: these people. Absolutely. 1124 00:53:06,613 --> 00:53:09,172 Speaker 3: Now I probably un fairly through under the bus there 1125 00:53:09,173 --> 00:53:11,693 Speaker 3: they're part of the district Licensing committee. But I actually 1126 00:53:11,733 --> 00:53:14,493 Speaker 3: think it's the health authorities. It is the health authorities 1127 00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:17,173 Speaker 3: that are ones who are saying not can't have any alcohol. 1128 00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:19,333 Speaker 3: But if you know, and you've been a part of 1129 00:53:19,333 --> 00:53:23,013 Speaker 3: these committees, or you're in the health system or certainly 1130 00:53:23,093 --> 00:53:23,453 Speaker 3: part of. 1131 00:53:23,373 --> 00:53:24,933 Speaker 2: The police, love to hear from you. Oh, one hundred 1132 00:53:24,933 --> 00:53:26,333 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, what's going on? I love the 1133 00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:29,292 Speaker 2: idea that you can't buy you four beers at once, 1134 00:53:29,693 --> 00:53:31,773 Speaker 2: and yet you can go to a bottle store and 1135 00:53:31,813 --> 00:53:34,172 Speaker 2: buy twelve one, one, two fives of gin if you want. 1136 00:53:34,613 --> 00:53:36,773 Speaker 2: So when you're in the happy, positive place where someone's 1137 00:53:36,813 --> 00:53:39,453 Speaker 2: put together a festival, you can't buy four drinks. 1138 00:53:39,693 --> 00:53:41,573 Speaker 3: Yep, exactly twenty two past two. 1139 00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:49,333 Speaker 1: Back very shortly, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call 1140 00:53:49,493 --> 00:53:52,373 Speaker 1: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZV. 1141 00:53:52,693 --> 00:53:58,493 Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about the district licensing committees effectively 1142 00:53:58,533 --> 00:54:02,133 Speaker 3: trying to shut down festivals, or at least opposing them 1143 00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:05,973 Speaker 3: serving alcohol, which would in turn mean the end of 1144 00:54:06,013 --> 00:54:06,973 Speaker 3: festivals around. 1145 00:54:06,733 --> 00:54:08,573 Speaker 2: The country, making it harder and harder for them to 1146 00:54:08,573 --> 00:54:10,453 Speaker 2: sell olco at the festivals, and coming up with new 1147 00:54:10,693 --> 00:54:16,733 Speaker 2: and increasingly strict and bizarre rules every year. Lance, Welcome 1148 00:54:16,773 --> 00:54:18,733 Speaker 2: to the show. Who do you think is responsible for 1149 00:54:18,773 --> 00:54:19,373 Speaker 2: this situation? 1150 00:54:20,573 --> 00:54:26,093 Speaker 13: Well, there's three groups. Really, We at one stage as 1151 00:54:26,093 --> 00:54:29,853 Speaker 13: a company had the most will We applied for and 1152 00:54:29,973 --> 00:54:33,213 Speaker 13: received the most temporary liquor licenses. So I think I 1153 00:54:33,293 --> 00:54:36,973 Speaker 13: know this thing inside out. You've got three players. One 1154 00:54:37,053 --> 00:54:40,893 Speaker 13: is the council, the next one is the police guy 1155 00:54:40,933 --> 00:54:44,053 Speaker 13: who will be the local liquor guy for the police. 1156 00:54:44,093 --> 00:54:47,853 Speaker 13: And then you've got the medical Officer of Health. And 1157 00:54:47,893 --> 00:54:50,493 Speaker 13: the problem you have is every single territory in New 1158 00:54:50,573 --> 00:54:54,013 Speaker 13: Zealand it will be you'll get a different result. So 1159 00:54:54,493 --> 00:54:57,453 Speaker 13: just as an example, you might get the police guy 1160 00:54:57,493 --> 00:55:01,333 Speaker 13: in Hamilton might be dreadful to deal with, or I 1161 00:55:01,373 --> 00:55:04,253 Speaker 13: can tell you for a fact, the medical Officer of 1162 00:55:04,293 --> 00:55:11,213 Speaker 13: Health for Wellington is terrible. And really the Medical Offices 1163 00:55:11,453 --> 00:55:14,373 Speaker 13: of Health got involved probably about sort of ten years 1164 00:55:14,373 --> 00:55:17,293 Speaker 13: ago when they put this whole harm minimalization thing in 1165 00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:23,212 Speaker 13: and their point of view is you should basically be 1166 00:55:23,613 --> 00:55:26,893 Speaker 13: one or two drinks under what you would drink if 1167 00:55:26,893 --> 00:55:29,053 Speaker 13: you were going to drive, And that's even if you're 1168 00:55:29,053 --> 00:55:32,293 Speaker 13: going to walk or bus so what, And that's basically 1169 00:55:32,293 --> 00:55:35,013 Speaker 13: where they want you. Anything over that they consider it 1170 00:55:35,093 --> 00:55:39,533 Speaker 13: to be intoxication, and intoxication is harm. And that's basically 1171 00:55:39,653 --> 00:55:42,533 Speaker 13: it now as for the people on the front line 1172 00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:46,613 Speaker 13: are actually serving you, just to give you an idea, 1173 00:55:46,733 --> 00:55:49,493 Speaker 13: but used to cost us about thirty eight dollars to 1174 00:55:49,733 --> 00:55:52,293 Speaker 13: get a liquor license. Nowadays, if it's what they call 1175 00:55:52,373 --> 00:55:55,373 Speaker 13: a large event, which is over fifteen hundred people, it's 1176 00:55:55,413 --> 00:55:59,013 Speaker 13: going to cost you seven hundred and eighty bucks to 1177 00:55:59,013 --> 00:56:02,533 Speaker 13: put on the event. And the guys that you're dealing 1178 00:56:02,533 --> 00:56:04,772 Speaker 13: with on the front line, the reason they're asking you 1179 00:56:04,773 --> 00:56:07,693 Speaker 13: your sunglasses or whatever is if they serve you and 1180 00:56:07,733 --> 00:56:10,653 Speaker 13: you're intoxic catered, they will get a ten grand fine, 1181 00:56:11,213 --> 00:56:13,573 Speaker 13: and then the organizer of the event will get a 1182 00:56:13,573 --> 00:56:15,333 Speaker 13: ten grand fight. And the person who's got a liquor 1183 00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:18,172 Speaker 13: license to the event because you're just serving so we'll 1184 00:56:18,173 --> 00:56:21,692 Speaker 13: get a ten grand fight. So you know, if you're 1185 00:56:21,693 --> 00:56:24,053 Speaker 13: doing an events in your profit might be you know, 1186 00:56:24,853 --> 00:56:27,173 Speaker 13: ten grand and you're thirty grand in the hole for 1187 00:56:27,253 --> 00:56:29,013 Speaker 13: serving somebody who's over the limit? What are you going 1188 00:56:29,053 --> 00:56:29,253 Speaker 13: to do? 1189 00:56:29,933 --> 00:56:33,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's rough, But I'd questioned the whole philosophy 1190 00:56:33,693 --> 00:56:36,893 Speaker 2: on that. What's the what's the problem if I'm over 1191 00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,813 Speaker 2: the limit? Well, and I'm not, and i'm not I'm 1192 00:56:39,893 --> 00:56:42,973 Speaker 2: not driving because I never would, and and I'm not 1193 00:56:43,213 --> 00:56:45,493 Speaker 2: fighting and I'm doing anything, So why are you legislating 1194 00:56:45,733 --> 00:56:46,653 Speaker 2: the state of my brain? 1195 00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:50,413 Speaker 13: Look, I agree with you one hundred percent. One of 1196 00:56:50,653 --> 00:56:53,333 Speaker 13: one of the biggest years, we did sixty sixty what 1197 00:56:53,373 --> 00:56:55,253 Speaker 13: we would call major events. In one year. You just 1198 00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:58,373 Speaker 13: have two crews going around, you know, with either sponsor 1199 00:56:58,413 --> 00:57:00,853 Speaker 13: it or do it ourselves or whatever. Didn't see a 1200 00:57:00,853 --> 00:57:03,933 Speaker 13: single fight. You'd see people, you know, who have had 1201 00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:05,732 Speaker 13: too much, and they might fall asleep in the sun 1202 00:57:05,773 --> 00:57:08,773 Speaker 13: and get a wicked case of sunburn. But you know, 1203 00:57:08,893 --> 00:57:12,413 Speaker 13: I think I think it was I think they got 1204 00:57:12,413 --> 00:57:15,613 Speaker 13: the mixed right about ten years ago, right, and then 1205 00:57:15,653 --> 00:57:17,333 Speaker 13: they just went too far. And when was the last 1206 00:57:17,333 --> 00:57:20,533 Speaker 13: time you saw a blues bruise and barbecues? Yeah, you 1207 00:57:20,573 --> 00:57:22,453 Speaker 13: know what I mean. And they were bringing events and 1208 00:57:22,493 --> 00:57:25,213 Speaker 13: they were huge fundraisers for the our essays in the 1209 00:57:25,533 --> 00:57:29,653 Speaker 13: Gaze Club and they all just got too hard, too hard, 1210 00:57:29,773 --> 00:57:32,453 Speaker 13: too hard, and you're right, you know, give it another 1211 00:57:32,493 --> 00:57:36,013 Speaker 13: couple of years the way it's going and there won't 1212 00:57:36,053 --> 00:57:38,973 Speaker 13: be any events and all that sort of fundraising stuff disappears. 1213 00:57:39,133 --> 00:57:40,733 Speaker 2: So and you've got this thing where you've got people 1214 00:57:40,773 --> 00:57:43,173 Speaker 2: that want to do good stuff. They want to create something, 1215 00:57:43,333 --> 00:57:45,693 Speaker 2: they run on a festival, they want to run an event, 1216 00:57:45,773 --> 00:57:47,293 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of work in that. There's a 1217 00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:50,573 Speaker 2: lot of hurdles right now. Those people have to expend 1218 00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:55,493 Speaker 2: so much energy to fulfill the you know, the requirements 1219 00:57:55,573 --> 00:57:57,813 Speaker 2: of people that aren't really in line with the thinking 1220 00:57:57,853 --> 00:58:00,653 Speaker 2: of most New Zealanders. Because these festivals are popular. People 1221 00:58:00,693 --> 00:58:02,533 Speaker 2: go along and they like to have a drink. So 1222 00:58:03,013 --> 00:58:04,653 Speaker 2: it's almost like we need to have a jury service 1223 00:58:04,693 --> 00:58:07,093 Speaker 2: where you get the where people are put on these 1224 00:58:07,333 --> 00:58:09,693 Speaker 2: these boards that make the decisions that are in align 1225 00:58:10,173 --> 00:58:13,053 Speaker 2: with how most people think about New Zealand rather than people. 1226 00:58:13,453 --> 00:58:15,213 Speaker 2: And look, I get it. If you're a police officer, 1227 00:58:15,293 --> 00:58:18,013 Speaker 2: you would see the absolute worst of the worst. And 1228 00:58:18,093 --> 00:58:20,613 Speaker 2: I understand why they would have that view of alcohol. 1229 00:58:20,853 --> 00:58:23,453 Speaker 2: I totally get that they see people in terrible positions. 1230 00:58:23,773 --> 00:58:26,213 Speaker 2: Having said that, I'm friends with some police officers and 1231 00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:29,573 Speaker 2: then they like a drink, but I imagine they get pretty 1232 00:58:29,573 --> 00:58:30,373 Speaker 2: steemed themselves. 1233 00:58:30,933 --> 00:58:35,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, and same with the health authority. 1234 00:58:35,093 --> 00:58:39,373 Speaker 2: What did you call the. 1235 00:58:37,613 --> 00:58:39,093 Speaker 13: Political officer of health. 1236 00:58:38,893 --> 00:58:39,933 Speaker 2: Medical officer of Health. 1237 00:58:39,973 --> 00:58:41,813 Speaker 3: I get that as well, because they would see the 1238 00:58:41,853 --> 00:58:43,493 Speaker 3: worst of the worst coming through the A and E 1239 00:58:43,613 --> 00:58:45,933 Speaker 3: departments and how much that's costing the system, et cetera, 1240 00:58:46,013 --> 00:58:46,453 Speaker 3: et cetera. 1241 00:58:46,813 --> 00:58:47,493 Speaker 2: But then to. 1242 00:58:47,533 --> 00:58:51,133 Speaker 3: Say, you know, you're okay buying one beer at Rhythm 1243 00:58:51,133 --> 00:58:53,573 Speaker 3: and Alps, but you can't have four, it just makes 1244 00:58:53,613 --> 00:58:54,573 Speaker 3: no logical sense. 1245 00:58:55,173 --> 00:58:58,053 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, you know, we see it and 1246 00:58:58,093 --> 00:59:01,293 Speaker 13: we try to explain. You know, we're trying to get 1247 00:59:01,333 --> 00:59:03,453 Speaker 13: a local license for a Wellington event at the moment, 1248 00:59:03,533 --> 00:59:07,493 Speaker 13: and it's crazy. You know, we've been doing this event 1249 00:59:07,533 --> 00:59:11,013 Speaker 13: for thirty years, trying to apply for this one. The 1250 00:59:11,093 --> 00:59:13,773 Speaker 13: two people who are involved from the council point of 1251 00:59:13,813 --> 00:59:15,573 Speaker 13: view are brand new and one of them is literally 1252 00:59:15,613 --> 00:59:18,453 Speaker 13: straight out of UNI. And the questions we're being asked 1253 00:59:18,453 --> 00:59:21,533 Speaker 13: that had thirty ridiculous. But you know, you have to 1254 00:59:21,573 --> 00:59:24,733 Speaker 13: try and explain to these people. Look that they're waited 1255 00:59:24,733 --> 00:59:26,653 Speaker 13: and queue for forty minutes to get to you to 1256 00:59:26,693 --> 00:59:30,093 Speaker 13: get a bear by the time. And you know, some 1257 00:59:30,133 --> 00:59:32,253 Speaker 13: of these guys have got kids, so you know, someone 1258 00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:34,733 Speaker 13: sitting down looking after the kids, somebody else is in 1259 00:59:34,773 --> 00:59:37,253 Speaker 13: a queue. You know, you're telling them they can't take 1260 00:59:37,293 --> 00:59:38,333 Speaker 13: a drink back to the partner. 1261 00:59:38,573 --> 00:59:40,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're saying you don't believe them. So they say, well, look, 1262 00:59:40,893 --> 00:59:42,493 Speaker 2: I've got I've got some people back there. I don't 1263 00:59:42,493 --> 00:59:45,853 Speaker 2: believe you're taking it to people. That's not your thing 1264 00:59:45,933 --> 00:59:47,053 Speaker 2: to decide, you know. 1265 00:59:47,253 --> 00:59:49,893 Speaker 13: Yeah, And the trouble is us being the guys serving. 1266 00:59:49,933 --> 00:59:52,013 Speaker 13: We can see you. You're only sitting twenty feet away. 1267 00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:56,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. But they bring then 1268 00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:59,413 Speaker 2: they bring in rules where they are you're only allowed 1269 00:59:59,493 --> 01:00:02,853 Speaker 2: so many places to serve alcohol within the event that 1270 01:00:02,893 --> 01:00:05,053 Speaker 2: you're putting on. So the queues are huge. And at 1271 01:00:05,053 --> 01:00:07,813 Speaker 2: the same time, you're saying that people can't get four 1272 01:00:07,853 --> 01:00:11,933 Speaker 2: beers to take back to their friends or their family. 1273 01:00:12,413 --> 01:00:14,413 Speaker 2: So basically you're asking people to be in a queue 1274 01:00:14,533 --> 01:00:18,453 Speaker 2: all day to Yeah. 1275 01:00:18,533 --> 01:00:22,293 Speaker 13: So we were years ago. I showed them the band system, 1276 01:00:22,533 --> 01:00:24,893 Speaker 13: you know, where you have multiple bands on, right, and 1277 01:00:25,373 --> 01:00:27,773 Speaker 13: the idea is uhould be passing the buck back to 1278 01:00:28,013 --> 01:00:30,813 Speaker 13: the actual the individual who's drinking, right, So you have 1279 01:00:30,853 --> 01:00:33,053 Speaker 13: a band on which is okay, this guy's okay to drink, 1280 01:00:33,093 --> 01:00:34,893 Speaker 13: you know, he's of the right age. That's one band, 1281 01:00:34,933 --> 01:00:37,053 Speaker 13: and he's another band, which is he's okay to drink. Now, 1282 01:00:37,173 --> 01:00:40,333 Speaker 13: somebody gets absolutely tanked and is making a ta to themselves. 1283 01:00:41,213 --> 01:00:43,253 Speaker 13: You know, that's up to security or the guys who 1284 01:00:43,293 --> 01:00:45,573 Speaker 13: assureing the drink to cut that band off so he 1285 01:00:45,613 --> 01:00:48,373 Speaker 13: can't he cannot drink until he's sobered up enough and 1286 01:00:48,413 --> 01:00:50,093 Speaker 13: he can go to the Saint John's into a security 1287 01:00:50,173 --> 01:00:53,213 Speaker 13: temp or whatever and persuade them that, you know, he's 1288 01:00:53,213 --> 01:00:55,973 Speaker 13: sobered up or had something to eat or whatever. Right, 1289 01:00:56,613 --> 01:01:00,053 Speaker 13: so it's back to their personal responsibility. But they don't 1290 01:01:00,053 --> 01:01:02,413 Speaker 13: want to do that. And so you know, instead of 1291 01:01:02,773 --> 01:01:05,413 Speaker 13: maybe three or four guys at the festival who get 1292 01:01:05,413 --> 01:01:07,853 Speaker 13: carried away who would do so at home or do 1293 01:01:07,893 --> 01:01:11,573 Speaker 13: so in the anyway, the rest of the festival goers. 1294 01:01:11,373 --> 01:01:16,533 Speaker 2: Are exactly because you can, you can, you can come 1295 01:01:16,613 --> 01:01:20,133 Speaker 2: up with an example that's bad. Therefore everyone is the 1296 01:01:20,173 --> 01:01:23,253 Speaker 2: same as that person when it's just it's just not 1297 01:01:23,853 --> 01:01:24,293 Speaker 2: the case. 1298 01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:27,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that same person you go to a liquor 1299 01:01:27,293 --> 01:01:31,133 Speaker 3: store and buy twenty boxes a goon, no problem, no question. 1300 01:01:32,253 --> 01:01:34,933 Speaker 13: Well, to give you an idea of how how pitty 1301 01:01:34,933 --> 01:01:37,093 Speaker 13: you get to like the one we're talking about with 1302 01:01:37,093 --> 01:01:39,573 Speaker 13: Wellington at the moment, we're talking about doing little examples. 1303 01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:43,133 Speaker 13: We're talking three mills in a place for cup and 1304 01:01:43,173 --> 01:01:45,573 Speaker 13: we're being asked to put in writing and guarantee that 1305 01:01:45,653 --> 01:01:48,293 Speaker 13: we won't do more than four servings in an hour 1306 01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:51,693 Speaker 13: that together, it's not even a single shot. 1307 01:01:52,213 --> 01:01:55,453 Speaker 2: Well that's so they're basically running this idea that alcohol 1308 01:01:55,573 --> 01:01:57,893 Speaker 2: is inherently bad. But if you go to a music 1309 01:01:57,973 --> 01:02:00,773 Speaker 2: festival and you look back at the crowds of happy 1310 01:02:00,973 --> 01:02:05,373 Speaker 2: New Zealanders jumping up and dancing in the sun, if 1311 01:02:05,413 --> 01:02:07,533 Speaker 2: you look at that and you don't see that there's 1312 01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:11,213 Speaker 2: some joy in that, and there's some positive positivity in that, 1313 01:02:11,453 --> 01:02:14,213 Speaker 2: then you shouldn't be the person that's making the decisions 1314 01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:16,893 Speaker 2: around the licensing. 1315 01:02:17,653 --> 01:02:17,933 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1316 01:02:17,973 --> 01:02:20,093 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And I mean most of the guys who are 1317 01:02:20,213 --> 01:02:23,533 Speaker 13: running the festivals are really professional at what they're doing. 1318 01:02:23,733 --> 01:02:26,853 Speaker 13: They've got, you know, hundreds of thousands, it's not millions 1319 01:02:26,893 --> 01:02:31,573 Speaker 13: of dollars invested. They don't want everybody there trolley. Yeah, 1320 01:02:31,613 --> 01:02:32,333 Speaker 13: it doesn't work for. 1321 01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:35,413 Speaker 2: Them, No, you know, I understand that's more work that's 1322 01:02:35,453 --> 01:02:38,533 Speaker 2: punishing punishing for them. Yeah, hey, thank you so much 1323 01:02:38,573 --> 01:02:41,933 Speaker 2: for your call. Lance, really appreciate that great call. Good 1324 01:02:42,013 --> 01:02:44,973 Speaker 2: luck with doing things and fighting against things to make 1325 01:02:45,013 --> 01:02:47,973 Speaker 2: things happen, you know, fighting against all this craziness to 1326 01:02:47,973 --> 01:02:49,093 Speaker 2: make things happen for people. 1327 01:02:49,533 --> 01:02:52,253 Speaker 3: And I mean I should have realized, but when Lance 1328 01:02:52,253 --> 01:02:54,333 Speaker 3: sid when was the last time you went to a 1329 01:02:54,333 --> 01:02:57,373 Speaker 3: blues bruise and barbecues but seafest and Kai Quarter which 1330 01:02:57,413 --> 01:03:00,493 Speaker 3: they touched many years ago because it was too hard 1331 01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:03,573 Speaker 3: getting past the licensing committee. I mean there's multiple events 1332 01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:06,573 Speaker 3: that now I think about it, have just gone being 1333 01:03:06,653 --> 01:03:10,653 Speaker 3: Kai Bosh, which is a mess upset to the community 1334 01:03:10,653 --> 01:03:12,093 Speaker 3: that they were held because. 1335 01:03:11,733 --> 01:03:15,293 Speaker 2: Of these licensing committees. Yeah, anyway, all right, you're right. Oh, 1336 01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:17,013 Speaker 2: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you disagree 1337 01:03:17,013 --> 01:03:19,653 Speaker 2: with us? Because generally speaking, I'm just looking at the 1338 01:03:19,653 --> 01:03:21,973 Speaker 2: text machine, it's got to be ninety percent of people 1339 01:03:22,013 --> 01:03:25,173 Speaker 2: texting three that agree with us. There's a few people 1340 01:03:25,213 --> 01:03:28,053 Speaker 2: that a stay in the text with wow, wow. 1341 01:03:28,213 --> 01:03:31,373 Speaker 3: Well I think we might have after the headlines as 1342 01:03:31,453 --> 01:03:34,333 Speaker 3: someone who's worked as an adder as a medic at events, 1343 01:03:34,333 --> 01:03:35,933 Speaker 3: so that we great to chat to that person. 1344 01:03:36,013 --> 01:03:37,533 Speaker 2: There's coming up. Okay, to see if we can get 1345 01:03:37,533 --> 01:03:43,653 Speaker 2: the opposing opinion. It airs twenty six to three US talks. 1346 01:03:43,693 --> 01:03:46,733 Speaker 14: It'd be headlines with blue bubble tax these it's no 1347 01:03:46,853 --> 01:03:50,293 Speaker 14: trouble with a blue bubble. The opposition's highlighting a rash 1348 01:03:50,293 --> 01:03:54,613 Speaker 14: of abrupt resignations by public health executives, with the Director 1349 01:03:54,693 --> 01:03:58,333 Speaker 14: General of Health quitting today with a week's notice. Health 1350 01:03:58,373 --> 01:04:01,293 Speaker 14: Inz's head and the Public Health Director have both also 1351 01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:06,533 Speaker 14: recently resigned. Former Labor Defense Minister Andrew Little's advocating for 1352 01:04:06,613 --> 01:04:10,933 Speaker 14: the government to bolster defense spending, pointing at escalating tensions 1353 01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:13,413 Speaker 14: between the likes of China and the US. 1354 01:04:14,053 --> 01:04:14,933 Speaker 4: Auckland police have. 1355 01:04:14,933 --> 01:04:18,893 Speaker 14: Released images of the people mover driven by a naked 1356 01:04:18,933 --> 01:04:22,093 Speaker 14: man who pulled up and performed a sex act beside 1357 01:04:22,133 --> 01:04:25,053 Speaker 14: a girl walking home from school in Epsom on Wednesday. 1358 01:04:26,093 --> 01:04:29,333 Speaker 14: At MP David Seymour says Pies and Peter Pitt aren't 1359 01:04:29,373 --> 01:04:31,413 Speaker 14: part of the long term plan for the new school 1360 01:04:31,493 --> 01:04:34,933 Speaker 14: lunch's program, which he spearheaded. The provider says it's a 1361 01:04:34,933 --> 01:04:37,013 Speaker 14: one off to help it get on top of its 1362 01:04:37,053 --> 01:04:41,173 Speaker 14: food production. The Crown will fund the realignment of y 1363 01:04:41,333 --> 01:04:44,493 Speaker 14: Kai Gorge on State Highway Too between Hawks Bay and 1364 01:04:44,533 --> 01:04:49,733 Speaker 14: wider devastated during Cyclone Gabrielle. Two years ago. New Zealand's 1365 01:04:49,733 --> 01:04:55,133 Speaker 14: tallest new skyscraper plans notified for quarter kilometer Auckland Tower. 1366 01:04:55,453 --> 01:04:58,013 Speaker 14: You can see more at Zaid Herald Premium. Now back 1367 01:04:58,053 --> 01:04:59,453 Speaker 14: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 1368 01:04:59,613 --> 01:05:02,133 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Royleen. It is twenty two to 1369 01:05:02,213 --> 01:05:06,213 Speaker 3: three and we're talking about the district licensing committees coming 1370 01:05:06,213 --> 01:05:09,053 Speaker 3: down pretty hard on festivals and of e in general. 1371 01:05:09,253 --> 01:05:13,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone says, we do want to stop alcohol, which 1372 01:05:13,173 --> 01:05:15,293 Speaker 2: is legal events, but drugs that are legal, we want 1373 01:05:15,293 --> 01:05:18,413 Speaker 2: to test for them so you don't get harmed. That's interesting. 1374 01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:20,853 Speaker 2: One from Trevor. A lot of people texting through this 1375 01:05:20,893 --> 01:05:23,613 Speaker 2: one about about the Wellington Seven. Wellington's seven closed down 1376 01:05:23,653 --> 01:05:25,773 Speaker 2: after John Campbell did the show on the Drunk People. 1377 01:05:26,013 --> 01:05:28,253 Speaker 2: I've never forgiven him for this. John Campbell used to 1378 01:05:28,293 --> 01:05:30,653 Speaker 2: do that a lot, doing Campy Life. If they didn't 1379 01:05:30,653 --> 01:05:32,013 Speaker 2: have an idea for a story, they'd just go and 1380 01:05:32,013 --> 01:05:34,573 Speaker 2: film drunk people and shame them and try and act 1381 01:05:34,613 --> 01:05:37,293 Speaker 2: like the whole world was like that. They remember they 1382 01:05:37,293 --> 01:05:39,653 Speaker 2: went down to Queen Street, they'd go to the they'd 1383 01:05:39,693 --> 01:05:42,373 Speaker 2: go to the races and Christ Church cup and show. 1384 01:05:42,893 --> 01:05:47,333 Speaker 2: They'd go to the Sevens just to just voyous voyeuristically 1385 01:05:47,373 --> 01:05:49,373 Speaker 2: look at the most drunk people and act like that's 1386 01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:50,133 Speaker 2: how everyone was. 1387 01:05:50,213 --> 01:05:51,613 Speaker 3: And that was the end of the sevens, wasn't it? 1388 01:05:51,653 --> 01:05:53,893 Speaker 3: When they tried to go family friendly as they called it, 1389 01:05:53,933 --> 01:05:54,293 Speaker 3: that was it. 1390 01:05:54,293 --> 01:05:56,493 Speaker 2: It was done. Dalliport Wine and Food Festival was a 1391 01:05:56,533 --> 01:05:58,853 Speaker 2: great day out for family and friends. Event now no 1392 01:05:58,933 --> 01:06:01,893 Speaker 2: longer on due to red tape and no council support. 1393 01:06:03,013 --> 01:06:05,453 Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's not just the alcohol laws. It's everything, 1394 01:06:05,493 --> 01:06:07,693 Speaker 2: the traffic management, the health and safety. There's nothing they 1395 01:06:07,693 --> 01:06:10,973 Speaker 2: haven't put their fingers into. That was a weird snort, Yeah, 1396 01:06:10,973 --> 01:06:14,573 Speaker 2: what was That's not for I wouldn't have snorted like that. 1397 01:06:14,613 --> 01:06:15,333 Speaker 20: I liked it. 1398 01:06:17,453 --> 01:06:20,453 Speaker 2: There's nothing they haven't put their fingers into. All of this. 1399 01:06:21,093 --> 01:06:24,213 Speaker 2: All of this makes a huge expense for anybody trying 1400 01:06:24,253 --> 01:06:26,613 Speaker 2: to organize a simple festival. That's the thing. You just 1401 01:06:26,653 --> 01:06:29,013 Speaker 2: make it harder and harder and harder. So they've got 1402 01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:30,733 Speaker 2: to deal with the traffic management, they've got to deal 1403 01:06:30,773 --> 01:06:35,173 Speaker 2: with the changing rules around alcohol, and you just lack 1404 01:06:35,213 --> 01:06:37,613 Speaker 2: of this amount. So basically, to put on a festival 1405 01:06:37,693 --> 01:06:40,253 Speaker 2: or an event, you just have to be swimming upstream 1406 01:06:40,453 --> 01:06:42,893 Speaker 2: so hard. And that's before you even deal with the 1407 01:06:42,933 --> 01:06:46,373 Speaker 2: actual basics of the logistics of running a festival and 1408 01:06:46,413 --> 01:06:49,613 Speaker 2: getting the artists there and actually putting the thing on. 1409 01:06:49,933 --> 01:06:52,253 Speaker 2: You've got to You've got to deal with this craziness. 1410 01:06:52,253 --> 01:06:55,253 Speaker 2: There should just be blanket rules and you don't have 1411 01:06:55,293 --> 01:06:57,293 Speaker 2: to You don't have to invent the wheel for each festival. 1412 01:06:57,333 --> 01:06:58,813 Speaker 2: This is what you have for a festival. You can 1413 01:06:58,853 --> 01:07:01,013 Speaker 2: sell drinks, you can do this, you can do that, 1414 01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:03,293 Speaker 2: and just go They should They shouldn't have to deal 1415 01:07:03,533 --> 01:07:05,933 Speaker 2: individually and ask individually for each thing. 1416 01:07:06,013 --> 01:07:08,173 Speaker 3: You should run for Medical officer of health of news 1417 01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,613 Speaker 3: Ill and Matt. I think it'd go well in that role. 1418 01:07:10,613 --> 01:07:13,453 Speaker 3: Now we mentioned before the headlines a medic has given 1419 01:07:13,533 --> 01:07:16,733 Speaker 3: us a call and he has attended several events. He's 1420 01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:18,773 Speaker 3: on his way to one now and his name is Mike. 1421 01:07:19,453 --> 01:07:21,093 Speaker 2: Mike, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this. I 1422 01:07:21,093 --> 01:07:23,093 Speaker 2: guess you've been on the front line of people that 1423 01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:24,013 Speaker 2: have had a couple. 1424 01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:28,373 Speaker 12: Once or twice over a year. Here definitely couple of 1425 01:07:28,373 --> 01:07:33,413 Speaker 12: them to imports over time and down on average, we 1426 01:07:33,453 --> 01:07:37,733 Speaker 12: would probish about five to six percent of patron for 1427 01:07:38,573 --> 01:07:42,773 Speaker 12: people that we treat for intoxication quite often time toxico 1428 01:07:43,333 --> 01:07:46,173 Speaker 12: system medically there's enough a wee can merinically, they'll go 1429 01:07:46,253 --> 01:07:49,533 Speaker 12: to a little safety's own and help them sober up 1430 01:07:49,533 --> 01:07:52,533 Speaker 12: and then taxis sit from that. It's most common. It's 1431 01:07:52,573 --> 01:07:59,373 Speaker 12: more booboos and ours. The creational drugs and alcohol is 1432 01:07:59,533 --> 01:08:03,333 Speaker 12: very very low on what we used to treat, and 1433 01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:06,093 Speaker 12: some of the festivals that we do posted the alcohols 1434 01:08:06,293 --> 01:08:07,933 Speaker 12: like a license in. Police would come in and check 1435 01:08:07,973 --> 01:08:09,853 Speaker 12: on us and have a chat and see what we're 1436 01:08:09,853 --> 01:08:12,253 Speaker 12: dealing them. And nine times out of ten, I'd say 1437 01:08:12,533 --> 01:08:14,933 Speaker 12: I actually quite supportive as to how the event was 1438 01:08:14,933 --> 01:08:19,093 Speaker 12: going due to the lack of drunk people. I find 1439 01:08:19,173 --> 01:08:24,093 Speaker 12: really interesting but large mentioned belt people being over the 1440 01:08:24,133 --> 01:08:25,772 Speaker 12: limit and under the limits. I was actually at a 1441 01:08:25,812 --> 01:08:29,572 Speaker 12: sponsored a few years ago. My security company were walking 1442 01:08:29,612 --> 01:08:32,293 Speaker 12: around with Brish testing units and if a person was 1443 01:08:32,372 --> 01:08:36,093 Speaker 12: over the precastly legal limit for driving, I scored off 1444 01:08:36,612 --> 01:08:40,213 Speaker 12: out of the premises because our class to be intoxicated. Yes, 1445 01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:41,893 Speaker 12: I'd had a couple of dregs and they're having a 1446 01:08:41,893 --> 01:08:45,092 Speaker 12: good time. They weren't acting stupid. That's what happened to them, 1447 01:08:45,173 --> 01:08:46,052 Speaker 12: and that is crazy. 1448 01:08:46,253 --> 01:08:49,173 Speaker 2: I mean, that's insane. If you've got the level of 1449 01:08:49,372 --> 01:08:54,012 Speaker 2: alcohol in your system for walking, it's very different. It's 1450 01:08:54,093 --> 01:08:56,173 Speaker 2: very hard to do a lot of damage when you're 1451 01:08:56,173 --> 01:08:59,093 Speaker 2: just walking around. Yeah, you know the idea that you 1452 01:08:59,093 --> 01:09:02,852 Speaker 2: would run the driving alcohol limit on people just walking around, 1453 01:09:02,893 --> 01:09:04,853 Speaker 2: that's pure insanity. 1454 01:09:05,692 --> 01:09:09,372 Speaker 12: Why I actually asked the organizers and security got me offs. 1455 01:09:09,532 --> 01:09:12,253 Speaker 12: It's these machines calibrated or what are they not just 1456 01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:16,333 Speaker 12: cheat machines have brought from j car and we're organizing, 1457 01:09:16,492 --> 01:09:19,572 Speaker 12: said I have an universal tapman and stopped it. There 1458 01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:22,852 Speaker 12: have been twenty, maybe thirty people it's caught it off 1459 01:09:22,853 --> 01:09:27,133 Speaker 12: for property because of it. They having a good time 1460 01:09:27,173 --> 01:09:29,532 Speaker 12: and this was a putty cruise the concept. But yeah, 1461 01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:29,972 Speaker 12: it's like. 1462 01:09:30,253 --> 01:09:34,972 Speaker 2: We don't see we've still it's actually it's actually cruel. 1463 01:09:35,013 --> 01:09:36,973 Speaker 2: They think that they are being the good guys, but 1464 01:09:37,013 --> 01:09:39,133 Speaker 2: they're actually the bad guys in the situation. And the 1465 01:09:39,133 --> 01:09:42,732 Speaker 2: other thing you bring up, Mike around illegal drugs. So 1466 01:09:42,853 --> 01:09:45,293 Speaker 2: kids now know that alcohol is a very difficult thing 1467 01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:47,972 Speaker 2: to get and it's complicated. It's actually easier for them 1468 01:09:47,973 --> 01:09:51,652 Speaker 2: to get mdm A or the drugs that they can 1469 01:09:51,692 --> 01:09:54,253 Speaker 2: take before they go in. Yeah, so so you might 1470 01:09:54,333 --> 01:09:56,932 Speaker 2: you might you might have shut down their drinking of alcohol, 1471 01:09:57,013 --> 01:10:01,732 Speaker 2: but the kids are going to get wasted somehow. Yeah, exactly, exactly, well, classics. 1472 01:10:01,853 --> 01:10:04,133 Speaker 12: At one festival that we to do a lot of 1473 01:10:05,372 --> 01:10:08,532 Speaker 12: the Free Day Festival nine. The first sight have a 1474 01:10:08,532 --> 01:10:11,093 Speaker 12: different geys and they had fund The second night would 1475 01:10:11,133 --> 01:10:14,532 Speaker 12: be the big drugs that we were doing multiple ods 1476 01:10:14,652 --> 01:10:17,492 Speaker 12: and a drunk people and in the last night was 1477 01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:19,652 Speaker 12: a little bit of a mixture of both. But yeah, 1478 01:10:19,933 --> 01:10:24,852 Speaker 12: similarly the glugs that are more prominent and the alcohol. 1479 01:10:25,093 --> 01:10:26,933 Speaker 3: But the fact that you know you're there as a 1480 01:10:26,973 --> 01:10:29,452 Speaker 3: medic mic at these festivals, and that's you know, that's 1481 01:10:29,492 --> 01:10:32,053 Speaker 3: a big point there that festivals have security guards, they've 1482 01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:35,652 Speaker 3: got medics, they've got people watching out for someone who 1483 01:10:35,772 --> 01:10:37,772 Speaker 3: might get into trouble for having a bit too much. 1484 01:10:37,853 --> 01:10:41,652 Speaker 3: That is a far safer environment than you know, then 1485 01:10:41,692 --> 01:10:43,412 Speaker 3: going into a liquor store and getting a couple of 1486 01:10:43,412 --> 01:10:45,452 Speaker 3: bottles of whiskey and god knows where you're going to 1487 01:10:45,492 --> 01:10:46,213 Speaker 3: go and drink that. 1488 01:10:46,532 --> 01:10:49,372 Speaker 12: Well, some of constituency as a classic one dis recently 1489 01:10:50,532 --> 01:10:54,053 Speaker 12: we're a medical temps. They had nurses running the call 1490 01:10:54,133 --> 01:10:56,693 Speaker 12: the drunk tent make it easier, but it was the 1491 01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:59,492 Speaker 12: you know, if you keep an armed people. I needed 1492 01:10:59,532 --> 01:11:01,732 Speaker 12: to be a medical assistance that come next. Nice, but 1493 01:11:02,173 --> 01:11:05,532 Speaker 12: they had all support and on one of the days, 1494 01:11:05,732 --> 01:11:08,093 Speaker 12: the entire time, all we had was forty people. 1495 01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:13,492 Speaker 2: Exactly. Hey, thank you so much for your call, Mike 1496 01:11:13,532 --> 01:11:16,852 Speaker 2: and your insights at the cold face of a problem 1497 01:11:16,893 --> 01:11:18,612 Speaker 2: that doesn't really seem to exist. Yeah. 1498 01:11:19,093 --> 01:11:21,532 Speaker 3: Wait, one hundred eighty and eighty great to hear from 1499 01:11:21,532 --> 01:11:23,412 Speaker 3: a medic on the ground. And as he said, you 1500 01:11:23,412 --> 01:11:26,293 Speaker 3: know what was it four people out of six and 1501 01:11:26,333 --> 01:11:29,093 Speaker 3: a half thousand that they treated for maybe even a 1502 01:11:29,093 --> 01:11:33,053 Speaker 3: little bit too much alcohol. Nine was the text number. 1503 01:11:33,093 --> 01:11:35,293 Speaker 2: It's funny after I pointed out that a lot of 1504 01:11:35,293 --> 01:11:37,932 Speaker 2: people say, you know, the really judgment mental people put 1505 01:11:37,933 --> 01:11:39,812 Speaker 2: a wow at the start of the text. Wow, you 1506 01:11:39,853 --> 01:11:42,612 Speaker 2: guys need to grow up. Wow. Now everyone's trolling me 1507 01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:44,372 Speaker 2: by putting wow at the start of the text. You 1508 01:11:44,452 --> 01:11:45,293 Speaker 2: did that to yourself? 1509 01:11:46,293 --> 01:11:46,612 Speaker 16: Wow. 1510 01:11:47,013 --> 01:11:47,492 Speaker 2: Wow. 1511 01:11:48,053 --> 01:11:50,372 Speaker 3: It is a quarter to three beg very shortly. 1512 01:11:52,412 --> 01:11:56,053 Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback Matt and Taylor Afternoons with 1513 01:11:56,173 --> 01:11:59,932 Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special. 1514 01:12:00,093 --> 01:12:04,492 Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty eight News TALKB. 1515 01:12:04,772 --> 01:12:08,732 Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. Good afternoon, Rod, Welcome to the show, 1516 01:12:08,812 --> 01:12:12,932 Speaker 2: your thoughts on licensing around festivals and such. 1517 01:12:14,612 --> 01:12:19,932 Speaker 25: Realm Matt and Tyler epic shows blows smoke up your 1518 01:12:19,933 --> 01:12:29,253 Speaker 25: earth being here lots of festivals and lots of concerts. 1519 01:12:28,853 --> 01:12:32,933 Speaker 20: Over the years, being an old bugger, But really. 1520 01:12:32,612 --> 01:12:38,573 Speaker 25: It's it's it's Cognian and what was it competence difference. 1521 01:12:38,973 --> 01:12:40,852 Speaker 16: I mean, people go to. 1522 01:12:42,372 --> 01:12:46,372 Speaker 25: Concerts and festivals to get a bit of joy, you know, 1523 01:12:46,572 --> 01:12:54,053 Speaker 25: and and joy off often involves having a drink and 1524 01:12:54,133 --> 01:12:57,252 Speaker 25: you know, having a yahoo. So I think it's really 1525 01:12:57,532 --> 01:13:01,692 Speaker 25: bizarre that they want to stop people going to these 1526 01:13:02,013 --> 01:13:08,932 Speaker 25: events and you know, not having a drink or maybe 1527 01:13:08,973 --> 01:13:12,372 Speaker 25: having one or two and leaving it at that. 1528 01:13:13,173 --> 01:13:14,852 Speaker 20: Like you guys are saying, it's a sort of a 1529 01:13:15,133 --> 01:13:17,652 Speaker 20: many state sort of thing. 1530 01:13:17,772 --> 01:13:19,532 Speaker 25: I mean, look at all the people that go to 1531 01:13:19,652 --> 01:13:25,372 Speaker 25: festivals and dropping acid and taking MDMA. I mean, that 1532 01:13:25,612 --> 01:13:29,812 Speaker 25: is the stuff they should be looking at and setting 1533 01:13:29,893 --> 01:13:34,892 Speaker 25: up places for people to you know, test whatever weird 1534 01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:36,972 Speaker 25: substance they're going to take. 1535 01:13:39,772 --> 01:13:42,012 Speaker 2: It's interesting what you say Rod about you know, people 1536 01:13:42,053 --> 01:13:45,213 Speaker 2: coming together and having having fun. So that is a 1537 01:13:45,253 --> 01:13:49,173 Speaker 2: sort of social cohesion in itself. So if we lose 1538 01:13:49,173 --> 01:13:51,053 Speaker 2: all these events because they're too hard to put on. 1539 01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:54,372 Speaker 2: Then we lose a lot as a society because coming 1540 01:13:54,452 --> 01:13:57,372 Speaker 2: together in large groups of different people from all walks 1541 01:13:57,412 --> 01:13:59,372 Speaker 2: of life to go to festivals, to go to these things, 1542 01:13:59,692 --> 01:14:03,012 Speaker 2: that is, that is great for people loving their country 1543 01:14:03,013 --> 01:14:06,612 Speaker 2: and loving their fellow citizens. So there is for sure 1544 01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:09,333 Speaker 2: there's a damage society them down. You know, this is 1545 01:14:09,372 --> 01:14:11,253 Speaker 2: a damage society by making it too hard for people 1546 01:14:11,293 --> 01:14:11,973 Speaker 2: to put these things on. 1547 01:14:13,933 --> 01:14:18,732 Speaker 20: You've nutshelled it, you know, really it's quite bizarre. 1548 01:14:19,253 --> 01:14:24,052 Speaker 25: I mean, people are not going to stop taking drugs 1549 01:14:24,173 --> 01:14:25,293 Speaker 25: or drinking. 1550 01:14:24,973 --> 01:14:26,893 Speaker 20: Alcohol when they go to festivals. 1551 01:14:27,612 --> 01:14:29,093 Speaker 25: That's what humans do. 1552 01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:32,932 Speaker 3: All right, and that's it. You know, when you talk 1553 01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:36,492 Speaker 3: about alcohol, everyone always focuses on the negative sides of alcohol, 1554 01:14:36,492 --> 01:14:38,812 Speaker 3: but you never hear about positives. And clearly there are 1555 01:14:38,933 --> 01:14:42,012 Speaker 3: positives of alcohol, as you say, social cohesion, the fact 1556 01:14:42,013 --> 01:14:43,772 Speaker 3: that you can have festivals, you can go out and 1557 01:14:43,772 --> 01:14:45,852 Speaker 3: you can have a nice drink with your friends and 1558 01:14:45,933 --> 01:14:48,933 Speaker 3: family and enjoy something. Have a buggy, have a boggye 1559 01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:53,492 Speaker 3: oh hundred eighty is the number to call Beck very shortly. 1560 01:14:53,973 --> 01:14:55,973 Speaker 3: And the ticks number. There's some great ticks coming through. 1561 01:14:56,133 --> 01:14:58,612 Speaker 3: Nine to nine two. It is nine to three. 1562 01:14:59,652 --> 01:15:02,093 Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun 1563 01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:02,732 Speaker 4: along the way. 1564 01:15:02,973 --> 01:15:06,293 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the VOLDO xc N eighty 1565 01:15:06,452 --> 01:15:08,333 Speaker 1: innovation style and to save. 1566 01:15:08,412 --> 01:15:10,092 Speaker 4: Have it all youth talks, they'd. 1567 01:15:09,933 --> 01:15:13,652 Speaker 3: Be news talks there be. It is seven to three. 1568 01:15:14,732 --> 01:15:18,852 Speaker 2: Hayden, welcome to the show. Your thought on restrictions around 1569 01:15:19,013 --> 01:15:21,012 Speaker 2: alcohol at festivals as are going too far? 1570 01:15:22,532 --> 01:15:25,412 Speaker 22: Yeah, hey boys, I definitely think it is. I think 1571 01:15:25,412 --> 01:15:28,452 Speaker 22: this is an ongoing symptom from two thousand and eight 1572 01:15:28,492 --> 01:15:32,053 Speaker 22: when we started to say to New Zealanders that it 1573 01:15:32,093 --> 01:15:34,732 Speaker 22: actually the consumer isn't at fault for their own purchase 1574 01:15:35,013 --> 01:15:38,372 Speaker 22: and that the blame must sit with the business. And 1575 01:15:38,572 --> 01:15:41,732 Speaker 22: when you look at festivals now, they're the latest and 1576 01:15:41,812 --> 01:15:46,092 Speaker 22: the long line of businesses and hospitality and visitor economy 1577 01:15:46,093 --> 01:15:48,972 Speaker 22: that have been affected by this mindset. If you look 1578 01:15:49,013 --> 01:15:51,652 Speaker 22: through CBDs now, I think you were in a hospital. Say, 1579 01:15:51,652 --> 01:15:54,213 Speaker 22: things are tough, but particularly if you're in bars, in 1580 01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:57,852 Speaker 22: nightclubs now where police, liquor licensing and councils are now 1581 01:15:57,973 --> 01:16:02,333 Speaker 22: shifting closing times or one way doors to earlier and 1582 01:16:02,412 --> 01:16:06,173 Speaker 22: earlier times. And you know, probably one of the saddest things, 1583 01:16:06,372 --> 01:16:08,812 Speaker 22: and evidence of that is you go to total right now, 1584 01:16:08,853 --> 01:16:11,093 Speaker 22: and have a look at this CBD, which used to 1585 01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:14,093 Speaker 22: have a pumping nightlife. They're as busy at brunch as 1586 01:16:14,173 --> 01:16:16,772 Speaker 22: they are on a Friday night. And that's that's an 1587 01:16:16,772 --> 01:16:22,532 Speaker 22: attitude that is across our government, our local body, and 1588 01:16:22,572 --> 01:16:27,092 Speaker 22: our licensing authorities. I get it. We understand police councils 1589 01:16:27,093 --> 01:16:29,572 Speaker 22: that don't want bad media, if police don't want to 1590 01:16:29,572 --> 01:16:32,173 Speaker 22: be arresting people in bars, but all they're doing is 1591 01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:35,892 Speaker 22: shifting people that are going to an organized venue where 1592 01:16:35,893 --> 01:16:39,573 Speaker 22: there is some security and medical support to garages. 1593 01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:40,452 Speaker 7: What we do. 1594 01:16:40,532 --> 01:16:42,093 Speaker 2: What we do is we punish. It is that the 1595 01:16:42,213 --> 01:16:44,892 Speaker 2: right way we punish people that are doing something and 1596 01:16:44,933 --> 01:16:47,932 Speaker 2: creating something, opening a bar or running a festival. Those 1597 01:16:47,933 --> 01:16:51,133 Speaker 2: are the people we punish. Where I mean, I would 1598 01:16:51,133 --> 01:16:56,492 Speaker 2: support removal of tax on alcohol at establishments now where 1599 01:16:56,532 --> 01:16:59,612 Speaker 2: you get people out and it's hiring people and you 1600 01:16:59,652 --> 01:17:02,052 Speaker 2: know people are being looked after in a place. Lower 1601 01:17:02,093 --> 01:17:04,972 Speaker 2: the tax on that and try and move the consumption 1602 01:17:05,013 --> 01:17:08,213 Speaker 2: of alcohol out of the house and into establishments and 1603 01:17:08,412 --> 01:17:09,012 Speaker 2: to events. 1604 01:17:10,053 --> 01:17:13,772 Speaker 22: Rat I'm with you on that. I'm all four making 1605 01:17:14,093 --> 01:17:16,892 Speaker 22: it harder to purchase at an off license so that 1606 01:17:16,933 --> 01:17:20,493 Speaker 22: when you are drinking, you're in a well managed, secure 1607 01:17:20,612 --> 01:17:24,133 Speaker 22: space that has some laws around how much alcohol you 1608 01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:27,692 Speaker 22: can be served, and that includes festivals. But we're making 1609 01:17:27,732 --> 01:17:30,692 Speaker 22: it so hard and so much easier for people to 1610 01:17:30,732 --> 01:17:33,293 Speaker 22: just go by a palett of dobos. So it's a 1611 01:17:33,452 --> 01:17:37,932 Speaker 22: flat and done it and just get less. And we're 1612 01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:42,452 Speaker 22: seeing just huge rumbles on castle cuity these days, where 1613 01:17:42,452 --> 01:17:44,532 Speaker 22: we used to see them down in the pubs that 1614 01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:46,412 Speaker 22: either in having a mean time. 1615 01:17:46,732 --> 01:17:48,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've got to say that I have had 1616 01:17:49,013 --> 01:17:50,692 Speaker 2: a lot of great times in dened and sitting on 1617 01:17:50,692 --> 01:17:52,813 Speaker 2: the couch with a few doughbros with my mates. 1618 01:17:53,612 --> 01:17:55,333 Speaker 3: And you would have gone through a few couches as well. 1619 01:17:55,372 --> 01:17:58,013 Speaker 2: I'll probably sit a few couches on fire in my time. 1620 01:17:58,053 --> 01:17:59,852 Speaker 2: Hey Hayden, thank you so much for your call. You 1621 01:17:59,853 --> 01:18:04,493 Speaker 2: have a great day ready and great weekend. Great discussion. 1622 01:18:05,013 --> 01:18:09,052 Speaker 3: I think ninety nine point nine percent of the Texas 1623 01:18:09,093 --> 01:18:11,572 Speaker 3: coming through saying, yeah, it's just got a bit much 1624 01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:13,853 Speaker 3: light and ut. Let us have a bit of booze, 1625 01:18:14,093 --> 01:18:14,732 Speaker 3: joyce and fist. 1626 01:18:14,893 --> 01:18:17,932 Speaker 2: We work hard. Absolutely, let us let off some steam 1627 01:18:18,253 --> 01:18:22,213 Speaker 2: right after three o'clock. A good story, well of a 1628 01:18:22,253 --> 01:18:25,412 Speaker 2: good stre. 1629 01:18:24,293 --> 01:18:28,492 Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, good story about this deep seek Ai Chinese AI. 1630 01:18:28,532 --> 01:18:31,492 Speaker 3: You would have heard about it quite controversial, but are quitetroversial. 1631 01:18:31,492 --> 01:18:34,173 Speaker 3: But someone asked it to roast New Zealand and some 1632 01:18:34,213 --> 01:18:35,093 Speaker 3: funny lines there. 1633 01:18:35,093 --> 01:18:36,892 Speaker 2: But we want to turn it around a little bit. Yeah, 1634 01:18:36,893 --> 01:18:39,212 Speaker 2: that's right. So we're going to get you to unroast 1635 01:18:39,253 --> 01:18:41,612 Speaker 2: New Zealand. Toast New Zealand after you've listened to an 1636 01:18:41,612 --> 01:18:47,173 Speaker 2: AI roast. Next new beginning comes from some of the beginnings. 1637 01:18:53,933 --> 01:18:57,652 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams 1638 01:18:57,692 --> 01:19:00,892 Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo X ninety news Talk. 1639 01:19:02,412 --> 01:19:05,692 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, six past three, the Hour of Power on 1640 01:19:05,692 --> 01:19:08,612 Speaker 3: a Friday. Topical tunes coming up very shortly, and we've 1641 01:19:08,612 --> 01:19:11,572 Speaker 3: got a great topic to discuss with you about roasting 1642 01:19:11,772 --> 01:19:15,412 Speaker 3: or hopefully toasting our great country, New Zealands. 1643 01:19:15,772 --> 01:19:21,252 Speaker 2: New Zealands. New Zealand has been heavily roasted by AI. 1644 01:19:21,973 --> 01:19:24,932 Speaker 2: It's beauty old Chinese AI deep seek Yeah, and it's 1645 01:19:25,253 --> 01:19:28,173 Speaker 2: roasted us in pretty good roasting actually, So we're going 1646 01:19:28,173 --> 01:19:29,893 Speaker 2: to try and turn that around and do the impossible 1647 01:19:30,933 --> 01:19:32,532 Speaker 2: and get people to ring up on our one hundred 1648 01:19:32,532 --> 01:19:34,492 Speaker 2: and eighteen eighty and say something positive about New Zealand. 1649 01:19:34,532 --> 01:19:36,412 Speaker 3: A bit of love for New Zealand on Valentine Say 1650 01:19:36,412 --> 01:19:38,612 Speaker 3: that's coming up very shortly, but right now it is 1651 01:19:38,893 --> 01:19:42,333 Speaker 3: seven past three. 1652 01:19:43,412 --> 01:19:45,612 Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on ZIBB, we 1653 01:19:45,692 --> 01:19:47,612 Speaker 2: named the New Zealander of the Week in honor that 1654 01:19:47,652 --> 01:19:50,133 Speaker 2: we bestow on a newsmaker who has had an outsized 1655 01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:53,492 Speaker 2: effect on our great and beautiful nation over the previous week. 1656 01:19:53,772 --> 01:19:56,692 Speaker 2: As always, there'll be three nominations, but only one winner. 1657 01:19:56,692 --> 01:19:59,293 Speaker 2: And remember, the New Zealand of the Week isn't always 1658 01:19:59,333 --> 01:20:03,012 Speaker 2: an agent of good. Sometimes the nominations are lame, annoying, 1659 01:20:03,492 --> 01:20:06,492 Speaker 2: or outright evil. So, without further ado, the nominees for 1660 01:20:06,532 --> 01:20:10,612 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the ah nominee 1661 01:20:10,612 --> 01:20:13,412 Speaker 2: one also receives they think You're better than everyone else award, 1662 01:20:13,973 --> 01:20:16,012 Speaker 2: harboring an illusion that they live in a scenic reserve 1663 01:20:16,053 --> 01:20:18,333 Speaker 2: and not a heavily commercialized tourist trap by a lake. 1664 01:20:18,572 --> 01:20:21,732 Speaker 2: These anti progress, anti delicious food locals showed us this 1665 01:20:21,772 --> 01:20:23,492 Speaker 2: week why it's so hard to get anything done in 1666 01:20:23,532 --> 01:20:27,452 Speaker 2: this country. The anti Golden Archers wanaka elitist locals. You 1667 01:20:27,612 --> 01:20:32,252 Speaker 2: have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week nominee 1668 01:20:32,253 --> 01:20:34,652 Speaker 2: two also receives the too many chefs in the Kitchen Award. 1669 01:20:35,333 --> 01:20:38,452 Speaker 2: I suffer a moor dupless creefy, Bradshields and Billy proct 1670 01:20:38,492 --> 01:20:40,412 Speaker 2: have all been entrusted with the role of captain in 1671 01:20:40,452 --> 01:20:43,492 Speaker 2: their team for Super Rugby this year. Four great players 1672 01:20:43,492 --> 01:20:45,852 Speaker 2: and great New Zealanders that come on, you only need 1673 01:20:45,893 --> 01:20:47,852 Speaker 2: one captain. I look forward to the four of them 1674 01:20:47,933 --> 01:20:50,253 Speaker 2: standing in a circle taking half an outside, whether kck 1675 01:20:50,333 --> 01:20:52,452 Speaker 2: it into the corner or go for three points. There's 1676 01:20:52,492 --> 01:20:54,492 Speaker 2: bloody four of them. They can't even run. A vote 1677 01:20:54,692 --> 01:20:56,372 Speaker 2: for being too scared to man up and pick someone 1678 01:20:56,452 --> 01:20:59,612 Speaker 2: to be your captain. The Wellington Hurricanes management. You were 1679 01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:03,412 Speaker 2: nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Yep, I done 1680 01:21:03,612 --> 01:21:05,412 Speaker 2: all right, but there can be only one and the 1681 01:21:05,452 --> 01:21:07,412 Speaker 2: winner of Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the 1682 01:21:07,412 --> 01:21:09,652 Speaker 2: Week also receives the coveted give him a Taste of 1683 01:21:09,732 --> 01:21:13,333 Speaker 2: Kiwi Award alright. As part of a fundraising drive for 1684 01:21:13,412 --> 01:21:16,093 Speaker 2: Monica Manua, a Center for research to fund new heart 1685 01:21:16,173 --> 01:21:18,812 Speaker 2: valve devices for children, this New Zealander drove a land 1686 01:21:18,893 --> 01:21:21,652 Speaker 2: Rover up a total of two parliamentary steps and the 1687 01:21:21,692 --> 01:21:24,253 Speaker 2: same very cool land Rover, which was also driven up 1688 01:21:24,253 --> 01:21:26,812 Speaker 2: the steps in nineteen forty eight. His reward for doing 1689 01:21:26,853 --> 01:21:29,372 Speaker 2: this most New Zealand of things, the media angry about 1690 01:21:29,372 --> 01:21:31,412 Speaker 2: other things, proceeded to pretend to be outraged for a 1691 01:21:31,412 --> 01:21:34,013 Speaker 2: whole week. In some week, winging opposition babies went as 1692 01:21:34,013 --> 01:21:36,973 Speaker 2: far as claiming he should lose his ministerial position for 1693 01:21:37,093 --> 01:21:39,932 Speaker 2: two steps in a land Rover, hard enough for daring 1694 01:21:39,973 --> 01:21:42,413 Speaker 2: to have some harmless fun and a time of pathetic 1695 01:21:42,492 --> 01:21:46,933 Speaker 2: soft downstairs worsory. David Seymour, you are the Matt and 1696 01:21:47,013 --> 01:21:53,333 Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week. We congratulations, give 1697 01:21:53,412 --> 01:21:58,532 Speaker 2: him a taste of Kiwi, God bless and God's speed. 1698 01:22:01,772 --> 01:22:04,173 Speaker 2: Very cool land Rover, a beautiful past. 1699 01:22:18,652 --> 01:22:19,772 Speaker 4: News talk z be. 1700 01:22:20,772 --> 01:22:24,732 Speaker 3: Well another great winner of New Zealander of the Week. 1701 01:22:25,532 --> 01:22:27,012 Speaker 2: And we'll do it all again next week. 1702 01:22:27,093 --> 01:22:29,852 Speaker 3: So thank you very much. Right on to this topic 1703 01:22:29,853 --> 01:22:30,253 Speaker 3: about the. 1704 01:22:30,372 --> 01:22:34,772 Speaker 2: Paper before, can I just something's just happened to me 1705 01:22:34,812 --> 01:22:37,492 Speaker 2: that's humiliating. I need to share it serious now. How 1706 01:22:37,532 --> 01:22:39,053 Speaker 2: when I was making coffee before, Tyler, you told me 1707 01:22:39,093 --> 01:22:41,173 Speaker 2: about a new bathroom I'd never heard of. Yep, down 1708 01:22:41,253 --> 01:22:43,933 Speaker 2: there over by the coffee machine. The VP barthroom here. Yeah, 1709 01:22:43,973 --> 01:22:46,133 Speaker 2: so I couldn't find it and I was trying to 1710 01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:48,852 Speaker 2: get into it, and there's a there's a door there, 1711 01:22:49,173 --> 01:22:51,093 Speaker 2: and I was standing there and I just couldn't work 1712 01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:54,173 Speaker 2: it out until someone came along and went, you were 1713 01:22:54,173 --> 01:22:57,333 Speaker 2: a moron pressed the button. I'm just sitting in a 1714 01:22:57,372 --> 01:23:01,093 Speaker 2: huge amount of shame. I've failed the most basic intelligence test. 1715 01:23:01,293 --> 01:23:04,852 Speaker 3: So so there's a kitchen in the office. To those listening, right, 1716 01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:08,492 Speaker 3: Metts didn't realize that there is a beautiful bath room 1717 01:23:08,652 --> 01:23:09,613 Speaker 3: just around the corner. 1718 01:23:09,333 --> 01:23:09,492 Speaker 7: And. 1719 01:23:11,173 --> 01:23:14,013 Speaker 2: Walking a long way to visit the bathroom. 1720 01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:16,893 Speaker 3: And you keep wondering where I'm disappearing. Off, you're making coffee. 1721 01:23:17,933 --> 01:23:19,492 Speaker 2: And you will disappear. Yet what the hell is going 1722 01:23:19,532 --> 01:23:20,053 Speaker 2: on back there? 1723 01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:24,493 Speaker 3: So clearly, and there's the big glass doors right, and 1724 01:23:24,532 --> 01:23:26,053 Speaker 3: that's the doors that you're talking about. So you were 1725 01:23:26,093 --> 01:23:28,932 Speaker 3: just standing in front of these doors open, sesame, Why. 1726 01:23:28,853 --> 01:23:29,732 Speaker 2: Isn't this working? 1727 01:23:29,853 --> 01:23:31,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, until someone pressed the big cream but. 1728 01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:35,692 Speaker 2: No, it was humiliated mate. Yeah, So just so the 1729 01:23:35,732 --> 01:23:37,053 Speaker 2: listeners know I'm an idiot. 1730 01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:39,372 Speaker 3: Well and now in now and there isn't a lovely bathroom. 1731 01:23:39,572 --> 01:23:41,692 Speaker 2: I felt like I had to share with people that 1732 01:23:42,013 --> 01:23:44,773 Speaker 2: they're listening to an idiot that can't even open the door. 1733 01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:46,253 Speaker 3: That's going to save you a lot of time. Now though, 1734 01:23:46,532 --> 01:23:48,652 Speaker 3: right onto this topic, this is going to be a dooozy. 1735 01:23:48,692 --> 01:23:51,253 Speaker 3: So Deep Seek you may have heard about this Chinese 1736 01:23:51,253 --> 01:23:51,972 Speaker 3: AI very. 1737 01:23:51,973 --> 01:23:54,092 Speaker 2: For lack of intelligence to artificial intelligence. 1738 01:23:55,293 --> 01:23:58,173 Speaker 3: So a story that popped up on social media this week. 1739 01:23:58,213 --> 01:24:00,853 Speaker 3: It was a key Wei content creator and travel enthusiast. 1740 01:24:01,213 --> 01:24:05,532 Speaker 3: He decided to ask this deep Seek AI to roast 1741 01:24:05,893 --> 01:24:08,253 Speaker 3: New Zealand and it didn't do too bad. 1742 01:24:08,893 --> 01:24:11,932 Speaker 2: I think it's done very very well. Like these actually 1743 01:24:11,933 --> 01:24:14,333 Speaker 2: burn You know, I'm a huge fan of New Zealand, 1744 01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:17,812 Speaker 2: love our country, burg supporter of the place, been here 1745 01:24:17,973 --> 01:24:21,253 Speaker 2: most of my life, so that some of us hurt, 1746 01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:23,692 Speaker 2: but I'm actually quite impressed by it. These actually pretty 1747 01:24:23,732 --> 01:24:25,333 Speaker 2: good burns. So we'll go through it and then look, 1748 01:24:25,333 --> 01:24:27,253 Speaker 2: we're going to ask you on one hundred and eighty 1749 01:24:27,293 --> 01:24:29,652 Speaker 2: ten eighty or nine two niney two to try and 1750 01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:32,772 Speaker 2: toast New Zealand Love to fight back against the dirty 1751 01:24:32,812 --> 01:24:36,933 Speaker 2: AI overlords out of China. Here you go. You have 1752 01:24:36,973 --> 01:24:40,412 Speaker 2: a housing crisis, a healthcare crisis, a cost of living crisis, 1753 01:24:40,412 --> 01:24:42,812 Speaker 2: and a brain drain problem. But hey, at least you've 1754 01:24:42,812 --> 01:24:46,213 Speaker 2: got Bird of the century. Rights, that's pretty. 1755 01:24:46,293 --> 01:24:47,892 Speaker 3: That is good and a lot. We love our bird 1756 01:24:47,933 --> 01:24:48,492 Speaker 3: of the century. 1757 01:24:48,732 --> 01:24:52,293 Speaker 2: Now got what was the bird of the century. 1758 01:24:52,333 --> 01:24:54,852 Speaker 3: See that it was the Australian bird because old mate 1759 01:24:54,893 --> 01:24:57,973 Speaker 3: from a US John Watson's face took over it and 1760 01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:00,013 Speaker 3: minutes to get that Australian did he? 1761 01:25:00,412 --> 01:25:04,253 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, old John Oliver Oliver that absolute punished. So 1762 01:25:04,333 --> 01:25:06,372 Speaker 2: that actually hurts that Actually I went off that Bird 1763 01:25:06,372 --> 01:25:10,053 Speaker 2: of the Year when they gave it to a bat. Stathetic. 1764 01:25:10,293 --> 01:25:11,772 Speaker 2: If you give it to a bat, then you're out. 1765 01:25:11,853 --> 01:25:15,293 Speaker 3: We get excited about it of the year, right number two. 1766 01:25:15,612 --> 01:25:18,692 Speaker 3: The New Zealander is proof that if you put enough 1767 01:25:18,732 --> 01:25:21,333 Speaker 3: sheep and overpriced house in one place, people will actually 1768 01:25:21,333 --> 01:25:22,172 Speaker 3: convince themselves. 1769 01:25:22,173 --> 01:25:22,932 Speaker 2: It's a utopia. 1770 01:25:23,532 --> 01:25:24,253 Speaker 20: That hurts. 1771 01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:26,173 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a roast. Put enough sheep 1772 01:25:26,213 --> 01:25:28,972 Speaker 2: and over house pricing in one place, people will actually 1773 01:25:28,973 --> 01:25:32,812 Speaker 2: convince themselves they're in the utopia. Okay. The entire country 1774 01:25:32,893 --> 01:25:35,372 Speaker 2: has the energy of a small town Facebook group where 1775 01:25:35,412 --> 01:25:39,492 Speaker 2: someone's constantly complaining about teenagers doing burnouts at three am. 1776 01:25:39,572 --> 01:25:41,612 Speaker 2: I'm concerned about this. I think we've got our number there. 1777 01:25:41,612 --> 01:25:44,812 Speaker 2: We are turning into a small town Facebook group with 1778 01:25:44,853 --> 01:25:47,452 Speaker 2: people complaining. Yeah, that does seem what that is accurate. 1779 01:25:47,492 --> 01:25:49,853 Speaker 2: It's funny because it's very very true. Yeah. 1780 01:25:50,013 --> 01:25:52,412 Speaker 3: New Zealand's idea of nightlife is a kabab shop that 1781 01:25:52,452 --> 01:25:54,692 Speaker 3: closes at nine thirty pm and a drunk nineteen year 1782 01:25:54,692 --> 01:25:55,773 Speaker 3: old fighting a roadside. 1783 01:25:55,853 --> 01:26:02,812 Speaker 2: Again, nailed it, every major city. So we're reading out 1784 01:26:02,853 --> 01:26:06,333 Speaker 2: some burns, some AI burns of New Zealand. Every major 1785 01:26:06,372 --> 01:26:09,092 Speaker 2: city in New Zealand is just a glorified town except Auckland, 1786 01:26:09,093 --> 01:26:10,973 Speaker 2: which is a glorified traffic jam. 1787 01:26:11,333 --> 01:26:14,732 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nice again hurt Yeah, quite quite hurtful that one. 1788 01:26:14,772 --> 01:26:18,892 Speaker 2: So that's an AI roast of New Zealand. But can 1789 01:26:18,893 --> 01:26:21,052 Speaker 2: we can we toast New Zealand? Have you got something? 1790 01:26:22,093 --> 01:26:24,452 Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty? Can you can you 1791 01:26:24,492 --> 01:26:27,492 Speaker 2: toast New Zealand? Yeah? What are we atilating to nothing? 1792 01:26:27,532 --> 01:26:29,452 Speaker 2: I don't think people will. I think we've we've reached 1793 01:26:29,452 --> 01:26:31,412 Speaker 2: a stage in New Zealand where people are just complaining 1794 01:26:31,452 --> 01:26:33,253 Speaker 2: and no one's no one's toasting. 1795 01:26:33,333 --> 01:26:36,013 Speaker 3: Well you think that ones come through already, guys, the 1796 01:26:36,093 --> 01:26:38,852 Speaker 3: Flat White forget about your fancy Lartes and Frappuccino's New 1797 01:26:38,933 --> 01:26:41,333 Speaker 3: Zealand And Flint and vented the Flat White, which is 1798 01:26:41,333 --> 01:26:44,052 Speaker 3: basically a love letter to your soul in coffee form. 1799 01:26:44,053 --> 01:26:46,772 Speaker 3: It's so smooth you'll be wondering if they secretly blend 1800 01:26:46,853 --> 01:26:49,813 Speaker 3: magic and with the beans. We do coffee better than anybody. 1801 01:26:49,933 --> 01:26:51,213 Speaker 3: That's a nice toast, isn't it. 1802 01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:52,812 Speaker 2: I'm going to push back on that. I think that 1803 01:26:52,893 --> 01:26:55,093 Speaker 2: the Flat White is a terrible coffee. It's just a 1804 01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:58,213 Speaker 2: it's just a trumped up latte. It's all milk, it's 1805 01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:00,772 Speaker 2: a it's a weak person's coffee. It's a baby's coffee. 1806 01:27:01,093 --> 01:27:03,053 Speaker 3: Oh dear, we're going to make you a five oh 1807 01:27:03,173 --> 01:27:05,372 Speaker 3: one and ship you back to I don't know where. 1808 01:27:05,452 --> 01:27:06,893 Speaker 2: That is treacherous. 1809 01:27:06,973 --> 01:27:09,213 Speaker 3: Right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number 1810 01:27:09,213 --> 01:27:11,652 Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two is the text number. 1811 01:27:11,812 --> 01:27:17,932 Speaker 3: Let's have some toasts for New Zealand. Good afternoon, seventeen 1812 01:27:17,973 --> 01:27:21,852 Speaker 3: past three on the on the back of AI roasting 1813 01:27:21,893 --> 01:27:24,012 Speaker 3: New Zealand, Deep Seak having a go at New Zealand. 1814 01:27:24,093 --> 01:27:25,933 Speaker 2: We were trying to toast New Zealand get people to 1815 01:27:25,973 --> 01:27:27,492 Speaker 2: text through on nine two nine two and R eight 1816 01:27:27,612 --> 01:27:29,692 Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen eighty with positive things. And this is 1817 01:27:29,692 --> 01:27:32,572 Speaker 2: a very good point here from Reagan because you you 1818 01:27:32,652 --> 01:27:34,852 Speaker 2: brought up the flat Someone text through with the flat white. 1819 01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:36,412 Speaker 2: Ye said, that's a positive of New Zealand and we 1820 01:27:36,452 --> 01:27:39,293 Speaker 2: can celebrate that, and I immediately want winged about it. 1821 01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:42,612 Speaker 2: So come on, guys, the very first toast you get, 1822 01:27:42,612 --> 01:27:44,612 Speaker 2: Matt has a winge. That's true. Yeah, I can complain 1823 01:27:44,652 --> 01:27:47,093 Speaker 2: about winges. And then I immediately winged about the flat white. 1824 01:27:47,093 --> 01:27:47,732 Speaker 2: What a hypocrict. 1825 01:27:47,732 --> 01:27:50,253 Speaker 3: We're getting some nice ones through, but also, dear listeners, 1826 01:27:50,253 --> 01:27:52,133 Speaker 3: I don't think you've understood the assignment. We're getting a 1827 01:27:52,173 --> 01:27:54,772 Speaker 3: lot of roasting coming through, but we want the toasting 1828 01:27:54,812 --> 01:27:57,452 Speaker 3: the nice things about New Zealand. Oh eight hundred eight 1829 01:27:57,612 --> 01:27:59,053 Speaker 3: and eighty is the number to. 1830 01:27:58,973 --> 01:28:03,052 Speaker 2: Call country with the most potent potentials? Is this this texter? Yep, 1831 01:28:03,253 --> 01:28:09,132 Speaker 2: least corrupt question mark best water. I like your confidence potential. 1832 01:28:09,732 --> 01:28:11,812 Speaker 2: Just came home from London. This textas is, and I'm 1833 01:28:11,853 --> 01:28:14,612 Speaker 2: enjoying the slow pace of New Zealand. Oh that's nice. 1834 01:28:15,053 --> 01:28:18,173 Speaker 2: That hurts. I love the slow pace of New Zealand. 1835 01:28:19,253 --> 01:28:21,052 Speaker 2: It's a slight I just think it's a faint praise. 1836 01:28:22,253 --> 01:28:24,213 Speaker 2: I just came home from London and I'm enjoying the 1837 01:28:24,293 --> 01:28:27,693 Speaker 2: slow pace of New Zealand. It's not that doesn't inspire 1838 01:28:27,732 --> 01:28:32,452 Speaker 2: me to. I don't know, tattoo the flag on my forehead. 1839 01:28:32,492 --> 01:28:35,173 Speaker 2: It's slightly boring. Lots of vaping in New Zealand, says 1840 01:28:35,173 --> 01:28:35,692 Speaker 2: the texture. 1841 01:28:35,772 --> 01:28:39,572 Speaker 3: That's definitely not a post. This one's quite nice. Kiwi's 1842 01:28:39,652 --> 01:28:41,932 Speaker 3: are super chill. New Zealanders are the kind of people 1843 01:28:41,933 --> 01:28:44,652 Speaker 3: who would apologize if they accidentally bumped into a wall. 1844 01:28:44,732 --> 01:28:45,012 Speaker 4: Wall. 1845 01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:48,612 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's nice. Yeah, we do apologize a lot. Yeah, 1846 01:28:48,652 --> 01:28:52,333 Speaker 2: we gave the world ynr and nick minute. That's true. True, 1847 01:28:52,372 --> 01:28:54,293 Speaker 2: that's not to celebrate. Hell of a trade. That one. 1848 01:28:54,372 --> 01:28:58,692 Speaker 2: We have sweet heaps of sweet tats, says this texture. 1849 01:28:58,812 --> 01:29:02,492 Speaker 3: Great fishing everywhere you go. That is that is not Yeah, 1850 01:29:02,612 --> 01:29:04,573 Speaker 3: that is the first one that's legitimate. 1851 01:29:04,732 --> 01:29:07,732 Speaker 2: That our kaimawana is exempt. 1852 01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:10,652 Speaker 3: Exempt, next level, next level. 1853 01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:13,213 Speaker 2: My pronunciation of exemplary is not exemplary. 1854 01:29:14,492 --> 01:29:18,972 Speaker 3: Joe Wan, good afternoon to you. Lovely to chat with you. Yes, 1855 01:29:20,333 --> 01:29:22,572 Speaker 3: now you sorry, you go. What do you love about 1856 01:29:22,572 --> 01:29:23,092 Speaker 3: New Zealand. 1857 01:29:24,412 --> 01:29:27,173 Speaker 24: Well, we have been lucky enough to do a bit 1858 01:29:27,213 --> 01:29:29,372 Speaker 24: of traveling around the world in the last few years 1859 01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:32,213 Speaker 24: and gone to all the beautiful spots around the world. 1860 01:29:32,293 --> 01:29:35,772 Speaker 24: That you hear talked about. And then we come back 1861 01:29:35,772 --> 01:29:38,012 Speaker 24: to New Zealand and it's just got the best scener 1862 01:29:38,053 --> 01:29:44,572 Speaker 24: in the world. Best beach's, best, unspoilt bush, bush and 1863 01:29:45,053 --> 01:29:47,452 Speaker 24: mountains and yeah, best place. 1864 01:29:47,893 --> 01:29:49,812 Speaker 2: Love it. What do you think is more beautiful? This 1865 01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:52,932 Speaker 2: is a controversial question, South Island or North Island scenery. 1866 01:29:55,572 --> 01:29:57,932 Speaker 24: Well, I guess they both have their points. But we're 1867 01:29:57,973 --> 01:30:00,333 Speaker 24: from the North Island and we holiday up at the 1868 01:30:00,333 --> 01:30:02,692 Speaker 24: tudor Kaka coast, so you can't beat that. 1869 01:30:02,853 --> 01:30:05,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's lovely. And speaking of good fishing, doesn't get 1870 01:30:05,893 --> 01:30:07,293 Speaker 3: much better than to Carca Coast. 1871 01:30:07,853 --> 01:30:10,493 Speaker 24: That's pretty goes, pretty goes pretty. 1872 01:30:10,213 --> 01:30:13,852 Speaker 3: Special place certainly is Joanne. You're fantastic. Thank you very much. 1873 01:30:14,692 --> 01:30:17,732 Speaker 2: This textu agrees. I've traveled, Thank you. I've traveled all 1874 01:30:17,772 --> 01:30:19,852 Speaker 2: around the world and there's no place I'd rather be. 1875 01:30:20,452 --> 01:30:22,692 Speaker 2: Long Live New Zealand, says this TEXTA. This is going 1876 01:30:22,772 --> 01:30:26,613 Speaker 2: quite well on us. Actually sales every weekend at Briscoes. 1877 01:30:27,253 --> 01:30:30,013 Speaker 2: Is that something to toast news? I celebrate that. 1878 01:30:30,253 --> 01:30:35,213 Speaker 3: Yes, that's true, just don't call it their biggest ever sale. Hi, guys, 1879 01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:37,133 Speaker 3: we are one of only two countries in the world 1880 01:30:37,133 --> 01:30:40,492 Speaker 3: that has two national anthems. 1881 01:30:40,532 --> 01:30:43,772 Speaker 2: Which is nice like that, oh yem unbelievable at the 1882 01:30:43,812 --> 01:30:47,213 Speaker 2: Olympics rowing sitting down going backwards, so good, says this texture. 1883 01:30:47,213 --> 01:30:49,572 Speaker 2: We are very good at sitting down and going backwards. Yeah, 1884 01:30:49,893 --> 01:30:51,372 Speaker 2: as we are. We can be proud of that. 1885 01:30:51,812 --> 01:30:53,852 Speaker 3: The text of flooding and now oh eight hundred and 1886 01:30:53,853 --> 01:30:55,972 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1887 01:30:56,492 --> 01:30:58,173 Speaker 2: We'll get more of your phone calls very shortly. 1888 01:30:58,213 --> 01:31:04,293 Speaker 3: Actually it is twenty one past three. 1889 01:31:05,452 --> 01:31:10,173 Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight on news 1890 01:31:10,213 --> 01:31:12,013 Speaker 1: Talk ZB Good afternoon. 1891 01:31:12,372 --> 01:31:14,732 Speaker 3: We've asked for the biggest toast of New Zealand, our 1892 01:31:14,732 --> 01:31:17,213 Speaker 3: beautiful country. On the back of the story of Deep 1893 01:31:17,333 --> 01:31:20,532 Speaker 3: seek a I a absolutely roasting. 1894 01:31:20,253 --> 01:31:24,213 Speaker 2: Us, saying things such as the entire country has the 1895 01:31:24,293 --> 01:31:26,572 Speaker 2: energy of a small town Facebook group where someone's constantly 1896 01:31:26,612 --> 01:31:30,812 Speaker 2: complaining about teenagers doing Bernatt's at three a m. Look 1897 01:31:30,812 --> 01:31:33,012 Speaker 2: at there's so many texts coming through on nine two 1898 01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:35,692 Speaker 2: two toasting New Zealand. New Zealander's tops and rowing has 1899 01:31:35,732 --> 01:31:38,892 Speaker 2: an America's Cup, a multi winner of the US Single 1900 01:31:38,933 --> 01:31:42,012 Speaker 2: Cedar Championship and A Kiwi was the founder of IF 1901 01:31:42,053 --> 01:31:46,013 Speaker 2: one World Championship winning team so winning country with a 1902 01:31:46,053 --> 01:31:48,732 Speaker 2: man putting things into outer space as well. Love that 1903 01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:51,093 Speaker 2: we have a space program. Someone agrees with that, well, 1904 01:31:51,213 --> 01:31:53,572 Speaker 2: Hamish does you can head a golf ball in the 1905 01:31:53,652 --> 01:31:56,213 Speaker 2: rough without worrying about something killing you and we punch 1906 01:31:56,253 --> 01:31:58,053 Speaker 2: above our weight and sport. Give them a taste to 1907 01:31:58,173 --> 01:31:59,613 Speaker 2: Kiwi from philm. 1908 01:31:59,372 --> 01:32:03,293 Speaker 3: Nice, Phil like it. Let's go to the phones. Maureen, 1909 01:32:03,372 --> 01:32:04,373 Speaker 3: how are you this afternoon? 1910 01:32:05,492 --> 01:32:07,132 Speaker 18: I am my name Catherine? Actually? 1911 01:32:07,452 --> 01:32:10,333 Speaker 2: Oh care three? How you doing good? 1912 01:32:10,412 --> 01:32:10,852 Speaker 12: Thanks? 1913 01:32:11,772 --> 01:32:13,732 Speaker 18: I was just telling your producer that we've got some 1914 01:32:13,772 --> 01:32:15,852 Speaker 18: friends staying with us at the moment, and they were 1915 01:32:15,893 --> 01:32:18,732 Speaker 18: saying that the best thing about New Zealand is that 1916 01:32:18,893 --> 01:32:21,372 Speaker 18: our version of light solution comes from the moon and 1917 01:32:21,412 --> 01:32:21,932 Speaker 18: the stars. 1918 01:32:22,173 --> 01:32:24,812 Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful. That's nicely posed. Oh well, I was 1919 01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:27,532 Speaker 2: camping over the break and you know, away from the 1920 01:32:27,572 --> 01:32:29,973 Speaker 2: city as you do. Boy, oh boy, when you stir up, 1921 01:32:29,973 --> 01:32:31,532 Speaker 2: when you're outside of the city and you stir up 1922 01:32:31,572 --> 01:32:34,732 Speaker 2: at the stars, it's mind blowing. Yeah, beautiful. 1923 01:32:35,173 --> 01:32:37,772 Speaker 18: But then it was a full moon last night and 1924 01:32:37,812 --> 01:32:41,452 Speaker 18: they just couldn't believe the sight of the full moon. 1925 01:32:41,772 --> 01:32:43,213 Speaker 2: That was pretty incredible last night. 1926 01:32:43,253 --> 01:32:44,973 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that, man, I know 1927 01:32:45,013 --> 01:32:46,812 Speaker 3: you would have been sound asleep with your award. 1928 01:32:46,853 --> 01:32:49,852 Speaker 2: But it was stuning last night. The full moon was 1929 01:32:49,853 --> 01:32:51,892 Speaker 2: still up this morning when I got up to walk 1930 01:32:51,893 --> 01:32:53,532 Speaker 2: the dog this morning, we had the full moon at 1931 01:32:53,532 --> 01:32:56,173 Speaker 2: one side, and the and the sunrising and the other. 1932 01:32:56,213 --> 01:32:57,772 Speaker 2: You know, when you get that that moment at certain 1933 01:32:57,812 --> 01:32:59,213 Speaker 2: time of the years, that is very cool. 1934 01:32:59,253 --> 01:33:01,973 Speaker 3: Geez, We're lucky in this country. Yeah, Catherine, thank you 1935 01:33:02,093 --> 01:33:02,492 Speaker 3: very much. 1936 01:33:02,532 --> 01:33:05,612 Speaker 2: Clean clean skies, no smog, Yeah, no pollution. 1937 01:33:05,893 --> 01:33:08,092 Speaker 3: Love it, Catherine. Have a fantastic weekend. 1938 01:33:08,412 --> 01:33:09,893 Speaker 2: Part of that is because everything gets blown out to 1939 01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:12,572 Speaker 2: sea because we're so narrow and thin. But we'll take 1940 01:33:12,652 --> 01:33:14,652 Speaker 2: fantastic guys. 1941 01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:21,253 Speaker 3: Just came back from overseas Hong Kong after a month there. 1942 01:33:21,572 --> 01:33:25,852 Speaker 3: We have the most beautiful, clean country in the world 1943 01:33:25,893 --> 01:33:28,492 Speaker 3: by far. Love it here and wouldn't live anywhere else. 1944 01:33:29,333 --> 01:33:29,532 Speaker 26: Good. 1945 01:33:29,572 --> 01:33:32,452 Speaker 2: That makes you feel brown, doesn't That certainly does? This 1946 01:33:33,452 --> 01:33:36,972 Speaker 2: text to disagrees. Mark says that Ai is dead accurate. 1947 01:33:37,293 --> 01:33:38,372 Speaker 2: New Zealand is buggered. 1948 01:33:38,812 --> 01:33:41,412 Speaker 3: Come on, Marke, it's Friday, mates, Valentine's Day. 1949 01:33:41,532 --> 01:33:46,412 Speaker 2: You can't take Chinese Ai. Deep seak yeah, the deep 1950 01:33:46,452 --> 01:33:48,692 Speaker 2: Seak side over your own country. 1951 01:33:48,933 --> 01:33:56,692 Speaker 3: Deep seek Yeah, screw deep Seak. Guys, absolutely adore this country. 1952 01:33:56,732 --> 01:34:00,772 Speaker 3: I've lived in several different countries overseas, including many in Europe. 1953 01:34:00,812 --> 01:34:02,972 Speaker 3: They all had their good parts, but nothing like being 1954 01:34:03,053 --> 01:34:05,732 Speaker 3: here in our own little corner of the world. It 1955 01:34:05,732 --> 01:34:09,333 Speaker 3: feels like we don't have as many problem as the 1956 01:34:09,333 --> 01:34:10,812 Speaker 3: rest of the world. Thank you very much. 1957 01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:14,452 Speaker 2: Clear your thoughts on New Zealand. Do you want to 1958 01:34:14,452 --> 01:34:15,333 Speaker 2: toast our country? 1959 01:34:16,372 --> 01:34:19,612 Speaker 27: I do want to toast our country. We're actually traveling 1960 01:34:19,652 --> 01:34:22,692 Speaker 27: on the wire wrapid coast and my husband and I 1961 01:34:22,772 --> 01:34:27,213 Speaker 27: have decided every coastline in New Zealand would equally anywhere 1962 01:34:27,213 --> 01:34:32,092 Speaker 27: in the world. And today it's absolutely spectacular. We're out 1963 01:34:31,893 --> 01:34:33,333 Speaker 27: at Cape Palliser. 1964 01:34:33,293 --> 01:34:37,133 Speaker 2: Oh beautifully. Yeah, we've got a lot of coastline and 1965 01:34:37,133 --> 01:34:39,213 Speaker 2: we've got a lot of beautiful coastline we. 1966 01:34:39,293 --> 01:34:43,093 Speaker 27: Have and today is spectacular. So just letting your folk 1967 01:34:43,213 --> 01:34:44,732 Speaker 27: know that's a plus. 1968 01:34:44,973 --> 01:34:46,772 Speaker 3: That is a big plus. And the variety on the 1969 01:34:46,812 --> 01:34:48,532 Speaker 3: coastlines as well. If you want a bit of ruggage, 1970 01:34:48,532 --> 01:34:48,933 Speaker 3: you can go to. 1971 01:34:48,933 --> 01:34:49,612 Speaker 2: The West coast. 1972 01:34:49,652 --> 01:34:53,492 Speaker 3: If you want that beautiful golden sands, head to abel Tasman. 1973 01:34:53,532 --> 01:34:56,612 Speaker 3: We've got it all, totally, love it. 1974 01:34:56,532 --> 01:34:59,772 Speaker 2: All right, and we we've also got beautiful Thank you, 1975 01:34:59,812 --> 01:35:03,372 Speaker 2: Claire for your care. We've also got beautiful internal coastlines 1976 01:35:03,412 --> 01:35:07,213 Speaker 2: around the lakes and Central Otago and topaul Topa or 1977 01:35:07,333 --> 01:35:09,972 Speaker 2: Lake Topor. It is magic in their place. 1978 01:35:10,013 --> 01:35:13,372 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, guys, we're in the world. Can you 1979 01:35:13,572 --> 01:35:15,333 Speaker 3: find two road cones for every person? 1980 01:35:15,692 --> 01:35:17,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that that's something that we've got. I'm 1981 01:35:17,812 --> 01:35:22,133 Speaker 2: surprised deep fake, deep fake deep seek didn't didn't come 1982 01:35:22,213 --> 01:35:25,972 Speaker 2: up with that because we have we are the road 1983 01:35:26,013 --> 01:35:29,412 Speaker 2: cone capital of the world. Is that a positive is 1984 01:35:29,652 --> 01:35:31,532 Speaker 2: something we can be proud? No, I think that's something 1985 01:35:31,532 --> 01:35:34,852 Speaker 2: we should be deeply humiliated about. Yeah, the fact that 1986 01:35:34,853 --> 01:35:37,172 Speaker 2: there needs to be an executive order from the government 1987 01:35:37,412 --> 01:35:39,412 Speaker 2: to say that road you can't have a road cone 1988 01:35:39,412 --> 01:35:41,372 Speaker 2: within a meter of another road cone because they started 1989 01:35:41,372 --> 01:35:43,972 Speaker 2: they started double road coning that they have road cones 1990 01:35:44,053 --> 01:35:47,293 Speaker 2: right beside each other. Yeah. 1991 01:35:47,412 --> 01:35:50,253 Speaker 3: Oh, this is a great text toast for New Zealand. 1992 01:35:50,372 --> 01:35:54,892 Speaker 3: Chevorn Ruer Kitty ah, Chevan's great, great New Zealander. 1993 01:35:54,973 --> 01:35:57,932 Speaker 2: Fantastic New Zealander. Yeah, the best toast in the world 1994 01:35:57,933 --> 01:36:00,932 Speaker 2: of the Vogels. Oh yeah, good bread, very good bread, 1995 01:36:01,372 --> 01:36:07,133 Speaker 2: very very too long for me. It takes too long 1996 01:36:07,173 --> 01:36:11,172 Speaker 2: to taste long like you're taking like vogels from Frozen. 1997 01:36:11,253 --> 01:36:13,012 Speaker 2: That's basically a two hour job with the toasting. 1998 01:36:13,253 --> 01:36:14,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't have to do anything. You just 1999 01:36:14,572 --> 01:36:16,213 Speaker 3: put it on a toaster, crank it up to a 2000 01:36:16,293 --> 01:36:16,972 Speaker 3: sex and you. 2001 01:36:16,973 --> 01:36:19,293 Speaker 2: Just walk away done. I don't have time to but 2002 01:36:19,333 --> 01:36:23,533 Speaker 2: it just beautifully mounts through. I'm too busy for vocals. Vocals. 2003 01:36:23,933 --> 01:36:26,133 Speaker 3: Get a David, how are you? 2004 01:36:26,333 --> 01:36:31,812 Speaker 15: I'm good? Thank you. I just are the best things 2005 01:36:31,853 --> 01:36:32,532 Speaker 15: of New Zealand. 2006 01:36:33,612 --> 01:36:35,252 Speaker 2: That's smart to be pleased. 2007 01:36:35,253 --> 01:36:38,533 Speaker 15: What I'm true? All right, I'll read it to you. 2008 01:36:38,532 --> 01:36:40,053 Speaker 2: You know. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so 2009 01:36:40,093 --> 01:36:41,692 Speaker 2: glad you did it, David. We should have thought it 2010 01:36:41,692 --> 01:36:44,692 Speaker 2: done this great, So you've put us the job. Where 2011 01:36:44,692 --> 01:36:44,972 Speaker 2: you go. 2012 01:36:45,173 --> 01:36:47,652 Speaker 15: Look, it's quite long, so you just tell me, wouldn't 2013 01:36:47,652 --> 01:36:47,932 Speaker 15: to stop? 2014 01:36:48,013 --> 01:36:49,973 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you go. 2015 01:36:51,412 --> 01:36:55,452 Speaker 15: New Zealand is known for its natural attractions, rich in culture, 2016 01:36:55,572 --> 01:37:01,693 Speaker 15: friendly locals, excellent food and wines. Specific attractions and experience 2017 01:37:01,973 --> 01:37:09,253 Speaker 15: include adventure and tourism. New Zealander's name of adventure and 2018 01:37:09,293 --> 01:37:13,532 Speaker 15: tourism and location of commercial bungee. 2019 01:37:13,133 --> 01:37:15,412 Speaker 2: Jumps we love a bungee yep. 2020 01:37:15,452 --> 01:37:22,253 Speaker 15: Rather than adventure activities including jet boating, skiing, planes and absorbing. 2021 01:37:22,732 --> 01:37:28,652 Speaker 15: Queenstown is the place for adventure. I'll bring activities such as. 2022 01:37:28,572 --> 01:37:36,612 Speaker 17: Jetboat skiing, ride skiing, river grasping, hiking and biking. Bird 2023 01:37:36,692 --> 01:37:41,772 Speaker 17: watching your Zealing is the bird watching paradise, home to 2024 01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:46,772 Speaker 17: the Kiwi and over the eighty species of seabirds. Beautiful 2025 01:37:47,772 --> 01:37:53,253 Speaker 17: near Auckland hosts again a colony from October to March. 2026 01:37:54,612 --> 01:37:56,213 Speaker 17: I won't carry on reading it too. 2027 01:37:56,973 --> 01:37:59,293 Speaker 2: It was great I could have listened to ever. It's 2028 01:37:59,333 --> 01:38:00,732 Speaker 2: making me feel very patriotic in. 2029 01:38:00,732 --> 01:38:02,933 Speaker 3: My heart feels very full right now, David. 2030 01:38:02,772 --> 01:38:03,293 Speaker 2: So you know. 2031 01:38:05,053 --> 01:38:06,492 Speaker 15: I'll email it to you. 2032 01:38:06,652 --> 01:38:08,892 Speaker 2: Ye, do that all right? Hey, thanks for that, David, 2033 01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:12,892 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, that's that the Ai toast of 2034 01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:13,412 Speaker 2: New Zealand. 2035 01:38:13,492 --> 01:38:15,012 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was only a third of the way through. 2036 01:38:15,093 --> 01:38:19,412 Speaker 3: Doesn't that make you feel proud? Guys, no snakes. That 2037 01:38:19,572 --> 01:38:22,692 Speaker 3: is a massive plus from Philippa Manuka. 2038 01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:27,093 Speaker 2: Honey, Oh yeah, men. Our country is utterly blessed. We're 2039 01:38:27,133 --> 01:38:29,372 Speaker 2: so fortunate to have been born here. That's true. I 2040 01:38:29,412 --> 01:38:32,293 Speaker 2: think people often forget that we winge and wine. But 2041 01:38:32,572 --> 01:38:37,013 Speaker 2: you you know, everyone compares themselves to two people that 2042 01:38:37,053 --> 01:38:40,412 Speaker 2: have more than them or or you know or people 2043 01:38:40,412 --> 01:38:42,293 Speaker 2: in a better position than them. But you know, walking 2044 01:38:42,333 --> 01:38:44,932 Speaker 2: around New Zealand at any given day, you could take 2045 01:38:44,933 --> 01:38:47,452 Speaker 2: a moment to be, you know, feel gratitude that you 2046 01:38:47,692 --> 01:38:51,932 Speaker 2: aren't born in places that are ravaged by war or 2047 01:38:51,973 --> 01:38:56,452 Speaker 2: poverty or starvation. There's so much, so many places in 2048 01:38:56,492 --> 01:38:58,772 Speaker 2: the world where things are just terrible. And just being 2049 01:38:58,772 --> 01:39:02,253 Speaker 2: born in New Zealand, you have won the lotter, You've 2050 01:39:02,293 --> 01:39:04,412 Speaker 2: won the life lottery. Just be being born here before 2051 01:39:04,412 --> 01:39:06,052 Speaker 2: you start complaining, that is lovely. 2052 01:39:06,532 --> 01:39:09,213 Speaker 3: A couple of more texts than wrap it up, because 2053 01:39:09,253 --> 01:39:11,973 Speaker 3: we've got topical tunes on the way. Guys, we've got 2054 01:39:11,973 --> 01:39:14,692 Speaker 3: the world class wildlife, from the rear Kiwi bird to 2055 01:39:14,732 --> 01:39:16,692 Speaker 3: the dusky dolphin on the Quarta Coast. 2056 01:39:16,732 --> 01:39:18,293 Speaker 2: New Zealanders home to some of. 2057 01:39:18,253 --> 01:39:22,973 Speaker 3: The beautiful beasts and creatures internationally. 2058 01:39:23,013 --> 01:39:26,572 Speaker 2: That's nice, isn't it. Nineteen nine two Ed says guys 2059 01:39:26,572 --> 01:39:29,053 Speaker 2: worked for an American company in Auckland and hundreds of 2060 01:39:29,093 --> 01:39:31,052 Speaker 2: them would come over and the first thing they would 2061 01:39:31,053 --> 01:39:35,812 Speaker 2: mention was the beautiful fresh air, no photochemical smock. Oh, 2062 01:39:35,853 --> 01:39:36,372 Speaker 2: that's nice. 2063 01:39:36,452 --> 01:39:39,852 Speaker 3: Kiwi hospitality. The people of New Zealand are some of 2064 01:39:39,853 --> 01:39:43,372 Speaker 3: the friendliest and most welcoming people you'll ever find. I'm 2065 01:39:43,412 --> 01:39:47,093 Speaker 3: from front and absolutely adore the hospitality here, whether it's 2066 01:39:47,133 --> 01:39:50,372 Speaker 3: a casual chat at a local cafe or a tour 2067 01:39:50,452 --> 01:39:54,133 Speaker 3: guide sharing their insider knowledge. You guys are just the best, 2068 01:39:54,173 --> 01:39:55,813 Speaker 3: super warm and hospitable. 2069 01:39:56,053 --> 01:39:58,333 Speaker 2: There is actually no where else in the world where 2070 01:39:58,372 --> 01:40:02,372 Speaker 2: you can go to a beach, ski lake, mountains, fjords, 2071 01:40:02,412 --> 01:40:04,412 Speaker 2: et cetera. All in the size of the state of 2072 01:40:04,412 --> 01:40:07,652 Speaker 2: Colorado nowhere. That's true. We are the pocket world here. Yeah. 2073 01:40:07,772 --> 01:40:10,412 Speaker 2: Oh that was good. Now, I really enjoyed that half hour, 2074 01:40:11,293 --> 01:40:14,532 Speaker 2: so thank you very much. New Zealand has the best 2075 01:40:14,532 --> 01:40:15,452 Speaker 2: Mary Jane in the world. 2076 01:40:15,452 --> 01:40:18,133 Speaker 3: It's sure, okay, thank you for that, all right, right right, 2077 01:40:18,213 --> 01:40:20,212 Speaker 3: that is where we'll leave it. That was some beautiful 2078 01:40:20,253 --> 01:40:22,852 Speaker 3: toast for New Zealand. On the back of Deep Seek, take. 2079 01:40:22,692 --> 01:40:25,612 Speaker 2: That Ai, yeah diddy, old deep Seek right. 2080 01:40:25,692 --> 01:40:28,372 Speaker 3: Coming up very shortly Topical Tunes, where Matt and I 2081 01:40:28,452 --> 01:40:30,253 Speaker 3: each pick a song related to a bit of a 2082 01:40:30,293 --> 01:40:35,412 Speaker 3: theme of the week. First two three votes via phone 2083 01:40:35,452 --> 01:40:37,053 Speaker 3: takes it out. If you want to teach, you can 2084 01:40:37,173 --> 01:40:38,133 Speaker 3: doesn't count, but. 2085 01:40:38,093 --> 01:40:41,213 Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred if you want to go, Yeah, it 2086 01:40:41,293 --> 01:40:43,412 Speaker 2: makes us feel good if we get one in our favor. Yeah, 2087 01:40:43,492 --> 01:40:45,412 Speaker 2: vote for you song. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty, 2088 01:40:45,412 --> 01:40:47,732 Speaker 2: we'll share our songs next. It is twenty seven to four. 2089 01:40:51,253 --> 01:40:54,932 Speaker 14: Jus talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis that's 2090 01:40:55,093 --> 01:40:58,213 Speaker 14: no trouble with the blue bubble. The Health Minister has 2091 01:40:58,253 --> 01:41:01,293 Speaker 14: made it clear the Director General of Health, Diana Safati, 2092 01:41:01,652 --> 01:41:05,172 Speaker 14: was not pushed out of her role. She's resigned today, 2093 01:41:05,253 --> 01:41:08,093 Speaker 14: the third top health official to quit since last week. 2094 01:41:09,053 --> 01:41:12,053 Speaker 14: The minister tasked with cutting government red tapes, as we 2095 01:41:12,093 --> 01:41:16,612 Speaker 14: can expect many more sector wide regulatory reviews this parliamentary term. 2096 01:41:17,173 --> 01:41:20,532 Speaker 14: Probe's last year looked into early childhood care and hair dressing. 2097 01:41:21,572 --> 01:41:24,812 Speaker 14: A former foreign minister says the US has dropped the 2098 01:41:24,812 --> 01:41:27,853 Speaker 14: ball in the Pacific by not following through on promises 2099 01:41:27,893 --> 01:41:32,772 Speaker 14: of aid, leaving the region vulnerable to Chinese influence. Police 2100 01:41:32,772 --> 01:41:35,412 Speaker 14: have arrested a man and recovered a homemade taser and 2101 01:41:35,492 --> 01:41:38,812 Speaker 14: ammunition when searching a vehicle after a pursuit in South 2102 01:41:38,853 --> 01:41:44,372 Speaker 14: Auckland yesterday. Auckland's Central Interceptor Wastewater Tunnel has gone live 2103 01:41:44,492 --> 01:41:48,133 Speaker 14: today in its southern half. When completed, the more than 2104 01:41:48,173 --> 01:41:51,532 Speaker 14: sixteen kilometer stretch will carry waste from across the city 2105 01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:56,812 Speaker 14: to the Mangardi treatment plant when just asking questions about 2106 01:41:56,933 --> 01:42:01,133 Speaker 14: science turns into three hundred thousand dead. You can read 2107 01:42:01,173 --> 01:42:03,772 Speaker 14: the full column at Enzaid Herald Premium. Now back to 2108 01:42:03,812 --> 01:42:05,092 Speaker 14: Mattethan Tyler Adams. 2109 01:42:05,093 --> 01:42:07,372 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and it is time for 2110 01:42:07,572 --> 01:42:10,052 Speaker 3: topical cheer uns. This is what we do every Friday. 2111 01:42:10,053 --> 01:42:11,812 Speaker 3: At this time, we met n each pick a song 2112 01:42:11,893 --> 01:42:13,852 Speaker 3: related to a theme of the week, first to three 2113 01:42:13,973 --> 01:42:15,532 Speaker 3: votes via phone wins. 2114 01:42:15,692 --> 01:42:17,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is 2115 01:42:18,013 --> 01:42:20,173 Speaker 2: the number. Do you like my song or Tyler's song? 2116 01:42:20,253 --> 01:42:22,173 Speaker 2: I'll go first. What's the score for this year because 2117 01:42:22,173 --> 01:42:25,892 Speaker 2: I won twenty twenty four one apiece, one apiece, one 2118 01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:28,612 Speaker 2: a piece. Okay, So this topic is a big topic, 2119 01:42:28,692 --> 01:42:32,093 Speaker 2: and there's no doubt it's on people's minds, especially people 2120 01:42:32,133 --> 01:42:36,812 Speaker 2: that forgot it this morning Valentine's Day. So I'm going 2121 01:42:36,893 --> 01:42:41,253 Speaker 2: to play the single greatest love song of all time, 2122 01:42:42,093 --> 01:42:45,812 Speaker 2: which is based on the single greatest love play of 2123 01:42:45,853 --> 01:42:48,933 Speaker 2: all time. Wow. Although to be fair, very depressing into this. 2124 01:42:49,853 --> 01:42:55,853 Speaker 2: My song is from the nineteen eighty album Making Movies 2125 01:42:56,013 --> 01:42:58,773 Speaker 2: by Dire Straits, Ladies and Gentlemen. 2126 01:42:59,053 --> 01:43:04,732 Speaker 28: Oh, Louise, keep the big the band company, No, I 2127 01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:06,412 Speaker 28: do this kiss. 2128 01:43:05,933 --> 01:43:09,532 Speaker 2: Tune through the bars over everyone's going to sing along here. 2129 01:43:10,093 --> 01:43:11,893 Speaker 2: One of the greatest chorus has ever written. 2130 01:43:12,452 --> 01:43:17,173 Speaker 28: Are when are we live? 2131 01:43:26,093 --> 01:43:26,732 Speaker 2: Pretty Good? 2132 01:43:27,213 --> 01:43:27,852 Speaker 28: Pretty Good? 2133 01:43:28,173 --> 01:43:32,812 Speaker 2: My Straights love song? That is just such a fantastic chorus. 2134 01:43:32,812 --> 01:43:36,333 Speaker 2: Every part of that song's phenomenal, but just the chorus 2135 01:43:36,333 --> 01:43:39,333 Speaker 2: the drum fell into it, absolute brilliant. It makes me 2136 01:43:39,333 --> 01:43:41,612 Speaker 2: emotional every time I hear that song. So one hundred 2137 01:43:41,612 --> 01:43:44,093 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, surely I'm going to win this one. 2138 01:43:44,133 --> 01:43:45,532 Speaker 3: It's going to be hard to beat, but I think 2139 01:43:45,652 --> 01:43:47,812 Speaker 3: I've got the song to beat it. And you mentioned 2140 01:43:47,853 --> 01:43:48,732 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day. 2141 01:43:48,572 --> 01:43:51,093 Speaker 2: Them the same topic as me. Ya, of course I can. 2142 01:43:51,173 --> 01:43:53,732 Speaker 3: We're all feeling the love today and look, I was 2143 01:43:53,772 --> 01:43:55,972 Speaker 3: one of those people that forgot this morning, so I've 2144 01:43:55,973 --> 01:43:58,452 Speaker 3: got to make it up right now. And this is 2145 01:43:58,492 --> 01:44:02,492 Speaker 3: dedicated to my lovely partner, Mave. It is can't help 2146 01:44:02,572 --> 01:44:03,732 Speaker 3: falling in love? 2147 01:44:05,612 --> 01:44:16,852 Speaker 2: Well, haven't you? How beautiful? Life'sucker mate's gonna break up 2148 01:44:16,853 --> 01:44:17,892 Speaker 2: with you after this, but. 2149 01:44:19,532 --> 01:44:20,212 Speaker 20: You care. 2150 01:44:23,492 --> 01:44:23,652 Speaker 7: Who? 2151 01:44:29,692 --> 01:44:31,213 Speaker 2: How beautiful? I mean? 2152 01:44:31,253 --> 01:44:33,133 Speaker 3: How can you say no to the king when he 2153 01:44:33,213 --> 01:44:36,492 Speaker 3: sings like that? Or Dave's already bugger off. He must 2154 01:44:36,572 --> 01:44:39,093 Speaker 3: really hate help us. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten 2155 01:44:39,213 --> 01:44:41,532 Speaker 3: eighty is the nuther to call. The first to three 2156 01:44:41,652 --> 01:44:45,812 Speaker 3: votes takes it out right. We'll get into it very shortly. 2157 01:44:46,013 --> 01:44:48,412 Speaker 3: It is twenty wonder four. 2158 01:44:48,452 --> 01:44:49,852 Speaker 2: Should I play the UB forty version? 2159 01:44:51,692 --> 01:44:55,053 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 2160 01:44:55,412 --> 01:44:56,372 Speaker 1: everything in between? 2161 01:44:56,692 --> 01:44:59,372 Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo. 2162 01:44:59,333 --> 01:45:02,492 Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort 2163 01:45:02,612 --> 01:45:03,572 Speaker 1: news talks, there'd. 2164 01:45:03,412 --> 01:45:07,293 Speaker 2: Be God Afternoon eighteen to four as topical tunes that 2165 01:45:07,333 --> 01:45:09,892 Speaker 2: w one one hundred and eighty ten at whose song 2166 01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:13,692 Speaker 2: as best on a topic? My topic was Valentine's Day, 2167 01:45:13,692 --> 01:45:15,412 Speaker 2: which is a burg topic, and I played the best 2168 01:45:15,452 --> 01:45:19,093 Speaker 2: love song of all time? You asked me the. 2169 01:45:19,213 --> 01:45:22,812 Speaker 28: Band company, No I do his kiss? 2170 01:45:23,612 --> 01:45:25,572 Speaker 2: Here we go to the bars of a rain? 2171 01:45:26,893 --> 01:45:27,972 Speaker 28: Shall we do the star? 2172 01:45:29,652 --> 01:45:29,972 Speaker 29: Ready? 2173 01:45:34,053 --> 01:45:36,092 Speaker 2: And you already stole my topic? 2174 01:45:36,372 --> 01:45:36,572 Speaker 20: Yeah? 2175 01:45:36,652 --> 01:45:36,852 Speaker 15: Wow. 2176 01:45:36,973 --> 01:45:39,013 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, I was one of those people that 2177 01:45:39,213 --> 01:45:43,212 Speaker 3: might have forgotten the flowers this morning. So I've dedicated 2178 01:45:43,293 --> 01:45:46,492 Speaker 3: this to my lovely partner. May it is Elvis? 2179 01:45:49,293 --> 01:45:52,253 Speaker 2: So I feel like I forget the life being sucked 2180 01:45:52,293 --> 01:45:57,652 Speaker 2: out of the utter. My song energetic, emotional, should have 2181 01:45:57,692 --> 01:46:02,452 Speaker 2: played the UB forty vision. What three calls aside? What 2182 01:46:02,612 --> 01:46:07,213 Speaker 2: they call him the king g A Greg? Greg, Welcome 2183 01:46:07,213 --> 01:46:07,612 Speaker 2: to the show. 2184 01:46:09,133 --> 01:46:10,172 Speaker 15: How are you going, guys? 2185 01:46:11,572 --> 01:46:13,053 Speaker 2: Very good? You sound like an Elvis fan. 2186 01:46:14,853 --> 01:46:17,213 Speaker 5: I'm a big Alwarts fan, actually, Tyler all right? 2187 01:46:17,293 --> 01:46:17,652 Speaker 2: Helbig? 2188 01:46:19,572 --> 01:46:20,293 Speaker 11: Oh pretty big? 2189 01:46:21,772 --> 01:46:21,972 Speaker 16: Yeah? 2190 01:46:22,732 --> 01:46:28,572 Speaker 5: And I don't very often do this. Yeah, I agree 2191 01:46:28,612 --> 01:46:30,412 Speaker 5: with I agree with many head. 2192 01:46:33,732 --> 01:46:37,892 Speaker 15: Unfortunately I'm gonna have to agree with mess this time. 2193 01:46:37,973 --> 01:46:42,172 Speaker 2: Oh really teasing? Thank you, Greg. I like the suspense 2194 01:46:42,213 --> 01:46:45,133 Speaker 2: you created with that look. I appreciate your support on 2195 01:46:45,173 --> 01:46:47,572 Speaker 2: this one. Thank you, Greg. That's one vote for me, yeah, 2196 01:46:47,612 --> 01:46:50,932 Speaker 2: one vote for Romeo and Juliet by dire straight. Nothing 2197 01:46:50,973 --> 01:46:53,532 Speaker 2: for Elvis yet. Bruce, Welcome to the show. 2198 01:46:54,612 --> 01:46:57,812 Speaker 28: Yeah, I'll tell you what you can tell Matt that 2199 01:46:57,933 --> 01:47:00,932 Speaker 28: it's like taking a knife to a gun sign when 2200 01:47:00,973 --> 01:47:02,532 Speaker 28: you play Can't Help falling in Love? 2201 01:47:02,612 --> 01:47:04,173 Speaker 15: That's my karaoke song. 2202 01:47:04,333 --> 01:47:10,732 Speaker 2: So so it's you Tyler beauty Bruce. Okay, okay, Bruce, 2203 01:47:10,772 --> 01:47:12,133 Speaker 2: you can tell me that yourself. 2204 01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:17,892 Speaker 3: One eat all right, one hundred eighty Irene, what love 2205 01:47:18,013 --> 01:47:19,053 Speaker 3: song do you like more? 2206 01:47:19,253 --> 01:47:20,652 Speaker 2: Is it Elvis or dire Straits? 2207 01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:24,692 Speaker 24: What what song do I like? 2208 01:47:25,612 --> 01:47:27,053 Speaker 2: Bigger? Part of Irene. What did you say? 2209 01:47:27,572 --> 01:47:30,932 Speaker 24: Ah, would you want me to choose an Elvis one? 2210 01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:32,173 Speaker 2: Or yeah? 2211 01:47:32,253 --> 01:47:34,293 Speaker 3: Well no, no, you you get to choose Irene. Would 2212 01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:36,973 Speaker 3: you like Elvis? Would you like dire Straits. 2213 01:47:38,492 --> 01:47:40,692 Speaker 23: Die greats more my style? 2214 01:47:40,893 --> 01:47:43,532 Speaker 2: Okay? Thank you? You call Irene? Oh we should we 2215 01:47:43,532 --> 01:47:47,812 Speaker 2: should hung up kind for Irene understood what was going 2216 01:47:47,853 --> 01:47:48,093 Speaker 2: on here? 2217 01:47:48,093 --> 01:47:49,492 Speaker 3: You're going to take their vote? Or should we just 2218 01:47:49,492 --> 01:47:51,093 Speaker 3: scratch that one and I'll take that vote? 2219 01:47:51,093 --> 01:47:51,372 Speaker 2: Okay? 2220 01:47:51,492 --> 01:47:51,612 Speaker 14: Right? 2221 01:47:51,692 --> 01:47:56,572 Speaker 2: Two to Marine Great New Zealand. Yeah you do one, Chris, 2222 01:47:56,772 --> 01:47:59,333 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Welcome to topic tunes. There's that 2223 01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:04,253 Speaker 2: Tyler's punishing Elvas song on my fantastic distrait song. 2224 01:48:04,333 --> 01:48:04,812 Speaker 15: You know what to do? 2225 01:48:04,933 --> 01:48:06,253 Speaker 2: Chris? Yeah, I know. 2226 01:48:06,372 --> 01:48:09,972 Speaker 5: I think that I'm a big Elvis saying, however, I'm 2227 01:48:10,053 --> 01:48:13,333 Speaker 5: on Elvis is the safe bet and Mark not an 2228 01:48:13,372 --> 01:48:14,213 Speaker 5: absolute legend. 2229 01:48:14,293 --> 01:48:18,133 Speaker 2: So I'm going to Australia one one, haven't I thank 2230 01:48:18,173 --> 01:48:19,732 Speaker 2: you so much? Christ, that's well done. 2231 01:48:19,853 --> 01:48:21,293 Speaker 3: Can we just see what Tim was going to say? 2232 01:48:21,412 --> 01:48:22,932 Speaker 3: Just just on the off chance. 2233 01:48:23,093 --> 01:48:24,933 Speaker 2: Okay, which way were you going to go? 2234 01:48:25,973 --> 01:48:26,173 Speaker 13: Yeah? 2235 01:48:27,853 --> 01:48:29,372 Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah we can go, so I go to 2236 01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:31,772 Speaker 2: another one. See Jimmy, which way were you going to. 2237 01:48:31,812 --> 01:48:35,692 Speaker 22: Go, let's listen, may take your glasses. 2238 01:48:35,293 --> 01:48:35,933 Speaker 8: Off, make you. 2239 01:48:37,692 --> 01:48:37,972 Speaker 23: Away? 2240 01:48:39,612 --> 01:48:41,772 Speaker 2: Okay, Jimmy made a different Damn. I shouldn't have gone 2241 01:48:41,772 --> 01:48:44,772 Speaker 2: to that one. Well done right, okay tunes sing along everyone, 2242 01:48:44,973 --> 01:48:50,572 Speaker 2: and Happy Valentine's Day, Love you all, I. 2243 01:48:50,612 --> 01:48:54,692 Speaker 28: Love Struggling roomeal seeing the streets are there, and the 2244 01:48:55,933 --> 01:49:00,012 Speaker 28: lean everybody, Lord, we love some man. 2245 01:49:02,213 --> 01:49:02,652 Speaker 18: The streets. 2246 01:49:02,732 --> 01:49:07,933 Speaker 4: The stepside of the sheet said something you and me 2247 01:49:08,933 --> 01:49:09,692 Speaker 4: have about it? 2248 01:49:12,412 --> 01:49:16,532 Speaker 2: Julia Head's Romeo. He need to give me a heart attack. 2249 01:49:18,173 --> 01:49:19,452 Speaker 2: He's underneath the window. 2250 01:49:19,612 --> 01:49:22,372 Speaker 4: What sing he like my boyfriends? 2251 01:49:23,973 --> 01:49:27,253 Speaker 28: He shouldn't come around here singing up people like that. 2252 01:49:28,973 --> 01:49:29,412 Speaker 20: Anyway. 2253 01:49:29,893 --> 01:49:31,692 Speaker 2: What you're gonna do about it? 2254 01:49:33,732 --> 01:49:39,932 Speaker 28: Juliet, The Dykes was loaded from the star and I beg. 2255 01:49:41,213 --> 01:49:43,053 Speaker 4: Many ux loaded. 2256 01:49:42,893 --> 01:49:47,493 Speaker 29: In my house and I fuck I fucky. 2257 01:49:48,492 --> 01:49:53,053 Speaker 30: The movie song when if You're gonna realize it was 2258 01:49:53,213 --> 01:50:09,372 Speaker 30: just the times wrong, Juliet, come up on different streets, 2259 01:50:10,253 --> 01:50:15,812 Speaker 30: the boat, the streets a shame, both dirty, both mean yes, 2260 01:50:15,893 --> 01:50:16,813 Speaker 30: And the dream. 2261 01:50:16,692 --> 01:50:17,372 Speaker 18: Was just the same. 2262 01:50:18,372 --> 01:50:21,253 Speaker 2: And I dream your dream for you, and now your 2263 01:50:21,412 --> 01:50:22,173 Speaker 2: dream is real. 2264 01:50:24,253 --> 01:50:26,093 Speaker 28: How can you look at me as if I was 2265 01:50:26,333 --> 01:50:27,972 Speaker 28: just another one of your deals? 2266 01:50:28,452 --> 01:50:32,333 Speaker 29: When you can fall the change of silver you can 2267 01:50:32,412 --> 01:50:35,732 Speaker 29: fall the change of gold, and you can fall a 2268 01:50:35,812 --> 01:50:41,772 Speaker 29: pretty stranger and the problems say you promised me everything 2269 01:50:43,093 --> 01:50:47,333 Speaker 29: you promised me picking then you to say, oh yeah, 2270 01:50:47,532 --> 01:50:50,692 Speaker 29: you know I used to have a scene wha damn, oh. 2271 01:50:50,612 --> 01:50:53,412 Speaker 28: Yeah, when I was made up. 2272 01:50:54,053 --> 01:50:56,612 Speaker 2: You used to cry said I love you, Mike. 2273 01:50:57,093 --> 01:50:58,652 Speaker 28: It stars about I. 2274 01:50:58,732 --> 01:50:59,973 Speaker 4: Love you to do like that. 2275 01:51:00,973 --> 01:51:02,532 Speaker 14: It's a place a. 2276 01:51:05,532 --> 01:51:24,612 Speaker 28: Song way you don't it. The time is wrong. I 2277 01:51:24,692 --> 01:51:28,092 Speaker 28: can't do the talk like to talk on the TV, 2278 01:51:29,452 --> 01:51:32,492 Speaker 28: and I can't do a lot of song like the 2279 01:51:32,572 --> 01:51:37,372 Speaker 28: way he is man. I can't do everything what I'll 2280 01:51:37,412 --> 01:51:42,893 Speaker 28: be way anything feel, don't do anything set be in 2281 01:51:43,213 --> 01:51:44,333 Speaker 28: love with here. 2282 01:51:46,372 --> 01:51:49,412 Speaker 4: All I do is miss you and know where we 2283 01:51:49,572 --> 01:51:49,933 Speaker 4: used to be. 2284 01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:55,932 Speaker 28: All I do is keep the beat the band company. 2285 01:51:57,492 --> 01:52:00,732 Speaker 28: All I do is kiss you through the bars of 2286 01:52:00,853 --> 01:52:04,532 Speaker 28: a rain. Sure you gotta get the stars with him 2287 01:52:05,253 --> 01:52:12,212 Speaker 28: and he's talking when we neighbor gused to cry. 2288 01:52:12,853 --> 01:52:15,053 Speaker 30: I love you anything this starts about it. 2289 01:52:15,492 --> 01:52:18,532 Speaker 28: I love you, Jedi. Thats a fair. 2290 01:52:21,372 --> 01:52:21,692 Speaker 14: You know. 2291 01:52:23,973 --> 01:52:26,013 Speaker 28: When you're gonna realize. 2292 01:52:25,532 --> 01:52:28,972 Speaker 2: It was just the time to run June. 2293 01:52:51,893 --> 01:52:56,133 Speaker 28: Yeah, I love struck Romeo singing streets up save in 2294 01:52:56,253 --> 01:53:02,173 Speaker 28: the way everybody go where they love some name May 2295 01:53:03,372 --> 01:53:08,333 Speaker 28: buying the convenience street, steps out of the shade and said, somebody. 2296 01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:09,973 Speaker 7: You and me be. 2297 01:53:12,013 --> 01:53:12,852 Speaker 2: How bad. 2298 01:53:26,412 --> 01:53:26,812 Speaker 4: You and me? 2299 01:53:26,933 --> 01:53:27,213 Speaker 26: Babe? 2300 01:53:27,412 --> 01:53:31,053 Speaker 2: How about it? Beautiful vests all the lovers. Well done 2301 01:53:31,053 --> 01:53:31,852 Speaker 2: on Time's Day? 2302 01:53:31,973 --> 01:53:33,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, well done, Matt, can you feel the love Tailand 2303 01:53:33,933 --> 01:53:34,692 Speaker 3: well that song goes on? 2304 01:53:34,812 --> 01:53:36,012 Speaker 2: Didn't that? It's a pretty long. 2305 01:53:35,893 --> 01:53:37,852 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, Elvis would have been short and sharp. I'll 2306 01:53:37,853 --> 01:53:39,972 Speaker 3: tell you it's three minutes fifteen would have been beautiful. 2307 01:53:40,053 --> 01:53:42,293 Speaker 2: But no, well done, Matt, Yeah, I thank you. Yeah. 2308 01:53:42,452 --> 01:53:44,692 Speaker 2: So two to one, two to one, early days. 2309 01:53:45,013 --> 01:53:47,133 Speaker 3: All right, all right, coming up very shortly, we'll get 2310 01:53:47,173 --> 01:53:49,532 Speaker 3: the rap of what you want to be watched in 2311 01:53:49,612 --> 01:53:50,892 Speaker 3: sport Wise over the weekend. 2312 01:53:51,812 --> 01:53:52,852 Speaker 2: Darcy water Grave up. 2313 01:53:52,812 --> 01:53:57,652 Speaker 1: Next, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends 2314 01:53:57,812 --> 01:53:59,172 Speaker 1: and everything in between. 2315 01:53:59,492 --> 01:54:02,173 Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo. 2316 01:54:02,133 --> 01:54:05,293 Speaker 1: XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort 2317 01:54:05,412 --> 01:54:08,452 Speaker 1: news talks, there'd be on news Talk. 2318 01:54:08,412 --> 01:54:10,813 Speaker 2: Zibby good afternoon. 2319 01:54:10,933 --> 01:54:13,932 Speaker 3: It is six to for almost the weekend and joining 2320 01:54:14,013 --> 01:54:16,333 Speaker 3: us once again, Darcy water Grave. 2321 01:54:16,532 --> 01:54:21,532 Speaker 2: Mates the recidivisturn. We love you that much. 2322 01:54:22,053 --> 01:54:23,932 Speaker 3: So what's on your watch list for the weekend? 2323 01:54:23,933 --> 01:54:24,452 Speaker 2: Sport Wise? 2324 01:54:24,772 --> 01:54:29,652 Speaker 26: I think a bit of Six Nations because this weekend 2325 01:54:31,013 --> 01:54:33,812 Speaker 26: so I've been watching a wee bit of Six Nations. 2326 01:54:35,013 --> 01:54:35,533 Speaker 2: It's kind of a. 2327 01:54:35,573 --> 01:54:38,453 Speaker 26: Sick fascination just seeing what on Earth whales can do. 2328 01:54:38,653 --> 01:54:42,053 Speaker 26: Now after fourteen on the bounce, I'm like, things have 2329 01:54:42,213 --> 01:54:43,093 Speaker 26: got to turn around. 2330 01:54:43,893 --> 01:54:46,012 Speaker 2: Such a great tournament though, isn't it just so simple? 2331 01:54:46,173 --> 01:54:48,772 Speaker 2: Six nations play each other once and then you find 2332 01:54:48,812 --> 01:54:50,852 Speaker 2: out who's best. It's so quick and simple. 2333 01:54:50,893 --> 01:54:53,453 Speaker 26: Well, that's not the champions trophy again. You've got the 2334 01:54:53,533 --> 01:54:56,333 Speaker 26: best teams in the world. They play around robin, top two, 2335 01:54:56,413 --> 01:54:59,373 Speaker 26: semi finalist and in a day and age. You need 2336 01:54:59,413 --> 01:55:03,093 Speaker 26: to have a confusing situation the way you qualify. 2337 01:55:02,772 --> 01:55:04,653 Speaker 2: Speaking watched Super Rugby, You'll be watching but of that 2338 01:55:04,693 --> 01:55:06,173 Speaker 2: as well? Yeah, well what Super Rugby? 2339 01:55:06,213 --> 01:55:07,093 Speaker 28: That was something that was going on. 2340 01:55:08,333 --> 01:55:10,373 Speaker 26: Do you see that the Six Nations is going to 2341 01:55:10,373 --> 01:55:13,812 Speaker 26: be fun. I'm not going to be watching any NRL 2342 01:55:15,293 --> 01:55:18,693 Speaker 26: pre games because I tried really hard last week, but 2343 01:55:18,733 --> 01:55:21,093 Speaker 26: there's just nothing on it. It's really hard to get 2344 01:55:21,293 --> 01:55:23,293 Speaker 26: foods and engage when you know it doesn't matter. 2345 01:55:23,413 --> 01:55:25,573 Speaker 2: What you're doing is hoping for a lack of injuries 2346 01:55:25,733 --> 01:55:29,053 Speaker 2: precisely yet to my show too long. Yeah, yeah, I 2347 01:55:29,133 --> 01:55:30,613 Speaker 2: have been. And the other thing. The other thing with 2348 01:55:30,733 --> 01:55:34,693 Speaker 2: that is you'r you basically go. If we do really well, 2349 01:55:34,853 --> 01:55:37,053 Speaker 2: if you're the Warriors fan, that's a bad omen. If 2350 01:55:37,093 --> 01:55:41,812 Speaker 2: we do really badly, it's a bad open just omens everywhere. 2351 01:55:42,613 --> 01:55:43,812 Speaker 2: You just don't want to know about it. 2352 01:55:43,973 --> 01:55:47,293 Speaker 26: So yeah, I'd be watching lots of Superdup and rugby 2353 01:55:47,413 --> 01:55:48,772 Speaker 26: because I can't help myself. 2354 01:55:48,853 --> 01:55:51,493 Speaker 3: And how we got on tonight Crusaders, Hurricanes and what 2355 01:55:51,613 --> 01:55:51,973 Speaker 3: was the other one? 2356 01:55:52,093 --> 01:55:54,933 Speaker 26: Highland Howland is taking on the war Retars and that 2357 01:55:55,293 --> 01:56:00,333 Speaker 26: could be quite the display. Waratars have got big ups 2358 01:56:00,373 --> 01:56:03,573 Speaker 26: on themselves, tickets on themselves, as they say, and with 2359 01:56:03,733 --> 01:56:08,772 Speaker 26: guys like playing who is quite the freak of nature. 2360 01:56:09,173 --> 01:56:12,693 Speaker 26: I get why people want to be watching that. The Islanders, 2361 01:56:12,733 --> 01:56:16,812 Speaker 26: of course want today dismiss that if they will. Is 2362 01:56:16,893 --> 01:56:18,573 Speaker 26: that two or three I've run and I've lost. 2363 01:56:18,693 --> 01:56:20,892 Speaker 2: That's two You're one lost town. You chip your Chiefs 2364 01:56:20,893 --> 01:56:21,932 Speaker 2: Blues on Saturday night. 2365 01:56:22,133 --> 01:56:25,693 Speaker 26: Yeah, well, I think all Super Rugby just watch the 2366 01:56:25,733 --> 01:56:27,213 Speaker 26: whole lot of it. So that kind of fills up 2367 01:56:27,213 --> 01:56:28,693 Speaker 26: your weekend with a bit of six nations. 2368 01:56:28,772 --> 01:56:29,253 Speaker 7: Youeral gone. 2369 01:56:29,293 --> 01:56:31,892 Speaker 2: What about the cricket black Caps Pakistan? Is that the weekend? 2370 01:56:32,013 --> 01:56:35,733 Speaker 26: No, that's a few No, it starts at ten o'clock tonight, 2371 01:56:35,853 --> 01:56:38,493 Speaker 26: so it ticks over, so come midnight, it's the weekend. 2372 01:56:38,733 --> 01:56:39,893 Speaker 2: You go, I'll watch that. 2373 01:56:40,013 --> 01:56:42,932 Speaker 26: I'll roll into your sport breakfast tomorrow morning with no sleep. 2374 01:56:43,733 --> 01:56:44,972 Speaker 2: Good idea, Thanks guy. 2375 01:56:45,053 --> 01:56:47,053 Speaker 3: Darzy, thank you mate. Have a great weekend. And that 2376 01:56:47,173 --> 01:56:48,093 Speaker 3: is us for another week. 2377 01:56:48,293 --> 01:56:51,932 Speaker 2: Yeah. They happy Valentine's every day. I love you, zul 2378 01:56:51,973 --> 01:56:53,052 Speaker 2: and give them a taste of Kiwi. 2379 01:57:04,093 --> 01:57:06,653 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 2380 01:57:06,812 --> 01:57:09,733 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2381 01:57:09,812 --> 01:57:12,373 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio