1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Kiata. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. French exchange 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: student Elois Roland was last seen five. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Years ago today. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: The then eighteen year old's disappearance has baffled authorities ever since. 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Was it murder, a kidnapping, an accident? 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Did he get lost in the bush, commit suicide or 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: plan an escape? 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Is he still alive? Does he want to be found? 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: He searches Google Maps for directions to Piha about five 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: am that morning, he walks for nearly two hours. He 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: turns onto Pihar Road about nine sixteen am and at 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: nine forty eight am the battery on his phone goes 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: dead and then nothing nothing for five years. Today on 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: the front Page, Herald's senior journalist and A Lease wins 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: us as we take a look back at Aloa's disappearance. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: We'll also hear some clips from my conversations with Alowa's parents, 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: Tieri and Katsman, and Bruno du Bois of a Cappella Productions, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: who directed a documentary series in France about Lawa's story. 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: And Elois disappeared five years ago. Can you tell me 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: a little bit about the investigation. 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Initially, police were able to ascertain that after he left 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: his host family's home, which was on the north Shore, 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: he came into town and got on a train who 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: was sent at Britomart, the big transports center in Auckland, 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: and then he was seen again on camera in West Auckland, 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: and from there they know that he's probably walked ten 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: kilometers to the area of Piha Road. That's where his 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: cell phone was tracked to and that's where it stopped. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: They checked the area extensively. They went through the bush, 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: they went door knocking, they just did everything they could 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: in that area to find traces of him, and there 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: was just nothing. Some point later on I found a 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: T shirt and that was seemed off to be for 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: exically tasted, but wasn't his. 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of interest about his disappearance here, 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: but also actually in France. I've spoken with the director there, 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Bruno do' pois of a Cappella Productions, about a documentary 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: series he actually did, and he's told me it's gotten 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: a lot of traction over there. 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: In France. We heard a lot about this story because 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: at this time it was COVID. I discover by Facebook, 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: and I was very concerned because it was very strange. 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: We don't heard about the story, and I think it 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: was a very very big injustice. And I start to 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: work about the story. I ad meet the family and 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: promised to help them. So try to understand what's happened 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: to Eloid's and after we have to wait for two 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: years before can come to New Zealand because you know, 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: use lound clothing border to her. To wait is a 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: long way a long time. It was very difficult for 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: parents that as this done, we can only work with 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: Donet with his familiar We tried to find everything about 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: his life in use on Brod's activity. 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: I think it's important to note one went missing in 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: the early days of COVID. Hey, the week after he 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: went missing, the WITJO actually officially declared a global pandemic. 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: This gives us some insight into how it was. Disappearance 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: kind of flew under the radar a bit. 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, it absolutely did. And a lot of people 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: go missing in New Zealand and turn up later on. 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stories that we do, a 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: lot of press releases we get from police saying this 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: person is missing, and then a few hours later they've 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: been found. We knew that Ala hadn't been found, we 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: knew that he was still missing. But also this huge, 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: big pandemic was happening at the time, and a lot 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: of things just became sort of secondary, I guess in 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: the headlines. And that must have been so frustrating for 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: his family being on the other side of the world. 72 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: They can't get here to search themselves. But the police have, 73 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: you know, sure that they've just done everything they can. 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: They've chased every lead, any tip that's come in, they've 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: looked at and if it's you know, if it's something 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: they can work with, they have done that. But it 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: was such an unprecedented and unknown time in the world, 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: and I think that the events of COVID definitely took 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: this over for sure. And again, I just cannot imagine 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: someone in my family being missing on the other side 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: of the world and not being able to physically go 82 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: there and look for them myself and see the area 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: and understand what might have been going on. 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: So Elua came to New Zealand to study English, and 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: as far as his family was aware, he didn't actually 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: have any previous mental health concerns. But what kind of 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: behavior did he exhibit while he was here. 88 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: Look, there were no red flags for his host family. 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: He had planned to go home earlier. He changed his 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: flights to go home earlier in the month. I think 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: he was due to Goham in late Main and he 92 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: changed his flight to the twenty first. He told friends 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: that he was homesick. He felt very lonely here and 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: he was missing friends and family. He wanted to just 95 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: go back to France. And he was actually really excited 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: because he had a test coming up to get into 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: the Air Force and he wanted to go back and 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: do that early and move on with that. So he 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: was a young person with plans and he was excited 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: about his future. But at the same time he was homesick. 101 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: He was speaking about loneliness, and you know, there were 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: some other things going on. You know, I think there 103 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: had been a romantic situation that hadn't gone his way, 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: and understandably he wasn't feeling great. But even so, his 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: friends that he spoke to regularly didn't have any sort 106 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: of huge concerns about him at the time. 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: So Bruno, the director I spoke to, actually said from 108 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: the videos that he had seen, they thought maybe it 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: was schizophrenia, because you start developing those symptoms around that age, 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: But he did say that he's not a psychologist and 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: it could have been something else like depression. 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: In the months leading up to his disappearance, he had 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: apparently fallen in love with a French girl at his class. 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend who arrived in December. His teacher 115 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: said his mood changes, he started acting weird. He was 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: sacked from two restaurant jobs. At one of them, security 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: took a video of him ranting and raving after being 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: thrown out, and he sends a video to his parents 119 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: saying the owner of the hotel he worked at created 120 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: the coronavirus and said that he wanted to quote kill him. 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: One thing, though, for certain, is that Elois felt alone. 122 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: All those students start to judge him has some strange 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: guy and if you work very alone. At this time, 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: he started to put publication on Facebook and Mastagram, very strength, 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: very long, very provocative. He communicate about his bad feeling, 126 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: his sad feeling. He was as sick, but he said 127 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: a lot. He said a lot in the social network. 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: Everybody owned him, especially for those students in us school 129 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: rejected him and not him, and I think sam is 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: something with markin of kindness. Maybe somebody can help him 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: and say, okay, you are sick. We can go in 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: the hospitality or doctor and we will help you. That's 133 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: what happened. 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: You think basically he was acting strange. He may have 135 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: developed some kind of mental health condition like perhaps schizophrenia, 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: and that kind of explains his rational behavior. 137 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: What clues did. 138 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: You find by looking through his social media accounts? 139 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: We find a lot of things and a lot of 140 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: message and message. He was very alone, he feels very 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: around and nobody else helps him. He sent a lot, 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: a lot and a lot of message to it. And 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: when somebody do that, obviously it's for to call help. 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: In one message he's sent by a voice message. Everybody 146 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: can see how need help, but they don't. He said it. 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: What is also we said it that he understanding himself here, 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: He wondered himself about what's happened to him, and he 149 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: said it. He said it a lot and story wat 150 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: this age. But everybody reject you. 151 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: And what have police said about the investigation into Elwat's disappearance. 152 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Look, they've said all along that it remains open that 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: they will follow up any line of inquiry. Any you know, 154 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: in cases like this, they don't stay active on a 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: daily basis. You know, police can only do so much 156 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: and then they have to sort of move to the 157 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: next phase of an investigation. So while this is never closed, 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: there's not a whole team working on it every day. 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: They have promised though, that if there is no new information, 160 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: they'll act on it. And you know, it's a hard 161 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: part of New Zealand when someone goes missing out on 162 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: that west coast. And I don't think a lot of 163 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: people understand that the area our bush is intense. It's 164 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: not just a little forest, it's not just some trees. 165 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: It's really heavy forestation, and it's a really precarious sort 166 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: of you know, ground and terrain, and police can only 167 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: do so much. They employ search and rescue professionals, they 168 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: use dogs, They drones now and heat seeking drones, and 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: they've got so many ways to look for people and 170 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: they employ all of those in a case like this. 171 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: They've always said they won't close this case until or 172 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: unless they have really good reason to. There have been 173 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: other cases of people that have gone missing in that area, 174 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: and after a while, the only sort of logical conclusion 175 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: is that they have passed away and those cases have 176 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: been referred to the coroner. Alowa's case hasn't yet and 177 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: police have assured his family and us, you know, multiple 178 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: times that in any new information they will act on 179 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: and it remains open and anyone with information is encouraged 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: to come forward. 181 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: So documentary filmmaker Dupois and the Rowlands, they think that 182 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: there are endless scenarios about what could have happened to Elois. 183 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 4: We really can't know what's happened to you. We really 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: can not because we have no information, no clues. So 185 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think maybe my conviction is issues. 186 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: He shoes to live, but probably it went bad, I 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: think in first issues, but probably it went bad. But 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure he didn't suicide. And maybe what he's missing 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: now it's a criminal investigation. But to say we have 190 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: no fact investigation, but we have no fact for nothing 191 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: for suicide and no fact for as the believers in 192 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: a bush. 193 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: So the detective in charge of the investigation told The 194 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Herald in twenty twenty two he thought it was unlikely 195 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: that La made it to the Black Sense of Piha Beach. 196 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: He said, my thoughts are still the bush he's potentially 197 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: tried to take a shortcut to the beach and didn't 198 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: realize how far that would be and overestimated his abilities. 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: He said, it's pretty gnarly in there. It is possible 200 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: he's just thought, well, it's like a straight line down there, 201 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: so it shouldn't be a problem, and maybe he's gotten 202 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: into some grief in the bush somewhere. 203 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: The police have always told me that they're keeping an 204 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: open mind. Obviously, the area Alois has gone missing in 205 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: or was last seen in, is that really intense bush 206 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: sort of areas. There's lots of places out there where 207 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: people can slip and fall and have accidents and may 208 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: not necessarily be found quickly. You know, there's people out 209 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: there that have never been found, unfortunately. But police are 210 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: open to any any theory or any you know, they've 211 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: not shut down anything. There's no signs of foul play, 212 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: there's no signs of any sort of kidnapp or you 213 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: suspicious circumstance. But equally, if someone came forward with information, 214 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: you know, the police have said that they will investigate that. 215 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine what it's like for Alowa's family to, 216 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: as I said, not be able to come here and 217 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: to know and have that closure. There's just so many 218 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: unknowns for them, and you know, unsurprisingly they must constantly 219 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: think about different ways and means that he's gone missing, 220 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: and that must be absolutely torturing for them. 221 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Anna, Thank you. I spoke with Elwa's. 222 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 5: Parents, Tierry and Katerine and they came to New Zealand 223 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two where they appealed to the public 224 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: for any information about their son, and they told me 225 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: the five years since Elawa's disappearance just feels like five days. 226 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 6: We are very we feel very come breaking, very worry 227 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 6: on the it's very difficult since this DISCIPPL every day, 228 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 6: every night really think to a war. It's very difficult 229 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: because we have not news of the war. Because of 230 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 6: the investigations. Police are very difficult for her. It's not 231 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 6: easy to communicate and every day, the week, every month, 232 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 6: we try to keep the contact with New Zealand the authority. 233 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: What do you think happens? 234 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 6: In fact, we always it is safe and in good health. 235 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 6: But it's very difficult. We have done everything to keep 236 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 6: open police investigations. 237 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 7: The police did a lot of suctioning in the area 238 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 7: where it was disappeared, but she didn't find anything, and 239 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 7: we still don't know what what happened. 240 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: I have spoken with police and they say the file 241 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: remains open into the disappearance of elir Eloi is still 242 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: a missing person and police continue to follow up any news. 243 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 7: We are very greatful. We are very grateful because for us, 244 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 7: it's very important that Ilwa stay in the in the 245 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 7: main and the main of of the people on the world, 246 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 7: on the earth. The most important is that the people 247 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 7: remember one because perhaps they have a testimony. We don't know. 248 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: That's it for this episode of The Front Page. You 249 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: can read more about today's stories and extensive news coverage 250 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: at enzid Herald dot co dot nz. 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