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Speaker 1: Now you know that story about the gang numbers cracking

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Speaker 1: the ten thousand mark. That's classic gotcha politics, isn't It

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Speaker 1: doesn't count when the number is nine, nine hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, But once it hits ten thousand, or in

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Speaker 1: this case, ten thousand and nine, it's a thing and

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Speaker 1: it's the government's fault. Is it the government's fault? Though?

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Speaker 1: I mean, should we actually be angry at Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 1: for this one? I don't think so. I think of

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now is the result of stuff

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Speaker 1: that has already happened, mainly the deportation of criminals from

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Speaker 1: Australia and the recession that we're in. Recessions lead to

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Speaker 1: an increase in crime for obvious reasons, and the deportation

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Speaker 1: of serious criminals will lead to an increase in gang numbers,

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Speaker 1: probably for a while yet, actually, until the likes of

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Speaker 1: the Common Chiros and any other heavy outfit that's been

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Speaker 1: brought here from Australia has maxed out its recruitment drive

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. I think it's highly ironic that Ginny

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Speaker 1: Anderson is the one moaning about this. Do you need

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Speaker 1: me to remind you of Ginny Anderson? Ginny Anderson was

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Speaker 1: one of Labour's run of police ministers who totally took

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Speaker 1: their foot off the throat of the gangs when they

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Speaker 1: are in power. Idion was the police minister at the

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Speaker 1: time that the gang was basically allowed to take over

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Speaker 1: or porticky for the tonguey. Remember that at least under

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Speaker 1: this government, in this particular police minister, police have been

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Speaker 1: given the understanding that they are to crack down on gangs.

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Speaker 1: There have been a huge number of arrests. There are

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Speaker 1: no gang tonguies taking over small town roads anymore. There

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Speaker 1: are no gang patches. Laura, the producer, lives out in

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Speaker 1: west Auckland. She reckons she used to see a gang

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Speaker 1: patch every single day. Doesn't see them now, none at all.

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Speaker 1: Now it doesn't mean that the gang members are gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can still see them around the place.

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Speaker 1: They just walk around in their colors, you know, without

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Speaker 1: the patch. Just look for someone wearing an unusual amount

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Speaker 1: of primary color red that generally donates among gr OLB member.

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Speaker 1: Look for somebody with a lot of yellow going on.

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Speaker 1: That's generally somebody from the common chio's lots of primary blue.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a black power there. I saw one in

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Speaker 1: his gang colours and Bunnings the other day. But at

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Speaker 1: least they do not have the belief that they can

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Speaker 1: walk around intimidating good people in public places because they

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Speaker 1: don't have their patch on. And them being stripped of

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Speaker 1: that belief acttion counts for a lot. Now. I'm not

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Speaker 1: happy the gang numbers have gone up, but they have

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Speaker 1: and I expect they're going to keep going up for

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Speaker 1: a while until this economy turns around and the pool

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Speaker 1: of recruits available to the Aussie import starts drying up.

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Speaker 1: That is not the fault of this government and is

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Speaker 1: also not the fault of this police minister. And what

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Speaker 1: counts for a lot more is at least these gangs

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Speaker 1: are being cracked down on. Now. For more from Heather

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