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Speaker 1: The job markets, as Andrew mentioned, moving in the right

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Speaker 1: issue direction, over fifteen hundred more filled jobs than the

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Speaker 1: same time last year. It's the usual ups and down scenario, construction,

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Speaker 1: manufacturing down, public admin and safety up. Ellen McDonald, as

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Speaker 1: thema's had of Advocacy and strategy, and as well this

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Speaker 1: how do you read the fifteen hundred number? You feeling

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Speaker 1: good about that?

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Speaker 2: It's a slight positive, but I think we've yet to

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Speaker 2: see the impact on those some of those hiring intentions

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Speaker 2: and a bit of business confidence, particularly in a couple

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Speaker 2: of those sectors that you mentioned. We've been out on

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Speaker 2: the road right through February and March talking to our

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Speaker 2: members and it's very clear they're keeping a very watchful

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Speaker 2: eye on what's happening with fuel and fuel supplies and

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Speaker 2: fuel prices, and that could lead if it continues, to

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Speaker 2: some more difficult decisions for some of those people.

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Speaker 1: And what is your read on that. When you ask

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Speaker 1: people and say, if this thing ends in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, like two weeks, we're done, they said four

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Speaker 1: to six, it's done in six. Do people move through

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Speaker 1: that and get on with it or is the damage done?

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be a huge relief of it in

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Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. And mister Trump tells us he's

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Speaker 2: one at once already, So if you could get on

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Speaker 2: and do it again, that'd be quite helpful. I think

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Speaker 2: what the big problem will be if you look into

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Speaker 2: the manufacturing index, for example, which we keep a close

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Speaker 2: eye on, it's been positive for the last five or

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Speaker 2: six months. So I was a little surprised to see

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Speaker 2: those numbers, But it was the intent to hire and

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Speaker 2: invest that was growing, and that will get a knock

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Speaker 2: regardless of how quickly this is over.

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Speaker 1: You just worked me through that, because when you look

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Speaker 1: at manufacturing, as you say, the PMI has been up

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Speaker 1: and in the positive, construction I thought was coming back

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Speaker 1: is the are these numbers retrospective or am I misreading

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Speaker 1: what's been happening in construction.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised by the manufacturing one, as

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Speaker 2: it's been going positive for the last five or six months.

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Speaker 2: The construction one, the big vertical stuff which soaks up

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Speaker 2: those jobs, that probably wasn't coming back towards until towards

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Speaker 2: the end of the year anyway, because to get those

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Speaker 2: things going again that takes a bit of time and things.

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Speaker 2: And also in a newld's just anecdotally we're hearing that

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Speaker 2: slowed down quite a bit because people still aren't spending

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Speaker 2: money yet. So that wasn't such a surprise, but the

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Speaker 2: manufacturing was a bit of a surprise. One.

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Speaker 1: I worry about Auckland and Wellington, the engine rooms of

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Speaker 1: the economy. They're down. I mean, yes, Canterbury's up and it,

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Speaker 1: Tiger's up and all that's fantastic. But if you're not,

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Speaker 1: if your big engine's not running, then that's trouble going

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Speaker 1: moving forward, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a real concern. Awkland's about thirty percent of

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Speaker 2: GDP or something around that number, and for it to

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Speaker 2: still be so sluggish as a concern. The other one

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Speaker 2: that we're quite concerned about is still that number of

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Speaker 2: young people getting into the workforce continues to fall, and

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Speaker 2: that's not good either. The unemployment rate between for under

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Speaker 2: twenty five year olds in South Okland for examples, as

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Speaker 2: high as twenty percent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I appreciate it very much. Ellen McDonald's. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've been here before. That's right, I was.

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Speaker 1: It was last year.

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