1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: truly global brand. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: On the huddle of this this evening, we have got 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: Tim Wilson Maxim Institute, an Oscar Kitely artist of course, 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: and local government politician in Auckland. Hell are you two? 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Do you worry that we are in a kind of 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: false calm and that we don't know what's coming? 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Sorry? 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 4: Was that for me? 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was for you. Did you watch all those 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: things yesterday? 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Because Elbow's things I didn't. 13 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: It was plenty weird to him, Like he said, nothing. 14 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 4: As weird as the Trump's speech. 15 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: It mate, it was arguably weirder because at least Trump's 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: speech was weird, but at least he's the guy in 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: the war. Albert basically got everybody together to say listen, yeah. 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: Can you keep doing that voice for the reason of them. 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Have an nice easter, maybe think about public transport and yeah, 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: it's going to get real lulable at some stage. That's 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: basically what he said. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 23 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: Look, I think my understanding of the situation is that 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: we are prop in a better position than Australia. As 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: Shane the polysyllabic Shane Jones was alluding to Australia has 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: a huge consumption of petrol, our consumptions, Lie, we've still 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: got the fifty two days. Maybe when we look across 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: the tasm it does feel like a it's like, why 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: aren't we freaking out like the Aussies? But I think 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: we've become a bit addicted to fear as well in 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: these times, so it's like, oh, we should be freaking out. 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: Shouldn't we be freaking out? Let's freak out. Yeah, maybe 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: it's not. 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think we will remember the last time 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: that we probably didn't freak out enough. 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, at the start, I didn't work. 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: What do you do? 38 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Thank Oscar? 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, I just I mean, I guess we're at the 40 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: end of the supply chain and we're not freaking out. 41 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: But my worry is that the country is further up 42 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: the wholesalers who provide us with the fuel, that they 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: are freaking out and they are already taking messas. So 44 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: it just looks weird that they're already doing stuff actively 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: because they don't know what's going to happen in the 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: future and were still kind of keep calm and carrying on. 47 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: That feels a bit odd. 48 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: To me, Well, this is what I think is maybe 49 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: he's a false comp Now the Donald Trump speech, that 50 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: was a bit of nothing, wasn't it him? 51 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: Well apparently it was. He said nothing that he hadn't 52 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: said in the Wall Street Journal yesterday. So if you 53 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: want to know what Trump's going to say today, just 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: read the Wall Street Journal yesterday. I think the measure 55 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: of that's you're that Republican Comm's guru that you had 56 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: on after five. I think he sounded a bit He's like, 57 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: I don't know who that was directed to in some way. 58 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: And so but his what I thought was really interesting 59 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: was that oil price has spiked during the speech, and 60 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: the S and P plummeted, So whatever he was hoping 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: to achieve, which is a kind of stabilization in some way, 62 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 4: you know, we sort of look like we're winning. I 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: don't think it happened. 64 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And in fact, Brent has gone up even more. 65 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: It's now up six point four percent. And what did 66 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: you take out of it, Oscar? Was there anything that 67 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: stuck with you out of the speech as being like, oh, 68 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: that's a fine. 69 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 3: Ah, you know, at normal times of a normal leader. Obviously, 70 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: the words of the US President consequential. But I feel 71 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: like his his style is so full of bluster and 72 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: psychotic that it's almost like we can't take It's almost 73 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: like the markets take more mods of what the Iranians 74 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: say in terms of what's happening with the war rather 75 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: than what he's saying, because it feels like he's game 76 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: in the markets a lot of the time. 77 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Well that's what they did as his. 78 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: Thing is he's a New York property guy, right, so 79 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: this is basically you know, ohlo, this is an empty 80 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: lot with sewage problems. Look at this beautiful imagine this 81 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: beautiful building here. That's that's just his mode, and you 82 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: would expect the market to function that in. But I 83 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: think probably he's just become a bit more i don't know, 84 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: uncertain and has delivered and if you guys have sense, 85 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: that gets a bit more disconnected, very a bit more off. 86 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Barry made a really good point actually, because Barry Barry 87 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: has TDS, so he really focuses a lot on Trump, 88 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: and he pointed out that in his speech, Donald Trump 89 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: was doing the double inhale as in like you know 90 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: when you do that when you Yeah, he was doing that, 91 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: so maybe, yeah, it was a bit stressed out. Alright, 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: we'll take a break, come back to you guys, and 93 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: just to take the huddle with. 94 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: New Zealand, Southby's International Realty, a name you can trust 95 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: locally and globally. 96 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, the abolition of the greyhound racing 97 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: that bill has passed. So that's the end of that 98 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: twelve away from sex and you back with the huddle, Oscar. 99 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: What is your read of the reshuffle today? 100 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting six months before an election. I 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: feel like Chris Bishop has paid the price for everybody 102 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: saying that he's a possible leader being shunted. Aside. I 103 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: know he's saying all the nice things, but I also 104 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: feel like I feel like he's given Chris pinker head 105 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: up and I think he will probably appear as a 106 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: possible leader thing. I mean, I guess the move was 107 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: designed to energize national voters, but he didn't do the 108 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: one thing that would have really energized them because he's 109 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: still in the cabinet. Oh yeah, and I'm just I'm 110 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: not sure whether he's gone far. And to be honest, 111 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: but also I did like that we had an energy 112 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: minister called Watts and I will miss that. 113 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will all miss that little that little thing. 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: Do you know that there's a thing, there's a thing there, 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Oscar where it's normative determinism, where your surname actually determines 116 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: what you become later in life. Did you know that? 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 118 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Wow? Really nothing? Don't know that? 119 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why there are there are a lot of 120 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: a lot of doctors, like orthopedic doctors who have the 121 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: surname leg for examples. Yeah, well that I'm not even making. 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: If Oscar's last name just had one one inn in there, 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: like Oscar Knightley rather than Oscar Kylie, you could be a. 124 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Knight That's right, sir, Oscar Dragon's be aware. That's right now. 125 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: See. 126 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: Okay, So I I looked at it all, and I though, okay, 127 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: this is really interesting from her who's being punished, who 128 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: tried to do a code perspective, and and and and 129 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: that is that is a legit thing to be interested in. 130 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: But what actually took me more than anything was Bush 131 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: losing the campaign chair and it being replaced by Sime 132 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: and Brown, him being replaced by Simme and Brown, because 133 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: I think that that actually makes it. My read on 134 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: that would be that the National Party will become more 135 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: conservative in their campaign. What do you think? 136 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, that's possible. But I think Simeon has a 137 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: really good political radar. He's someone who just is able 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: to speak to the man woman in the streets Spokland importantly, absolutely, 139 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: and that's that's going to be crucial. And yeah, look, 140 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: I guess what you want is someone who's you know, 141 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: you want to baramaso. What's the temperature out there? So 142 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: what kind of weather should we turn on? Politically? I 143 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: think Simony will be able to step up for that. 144 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: Bishop did get a new portfolio that was the Minister 145 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: of back room cook cues, So I don't know if 146 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: any much all that. 147 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, very good. You've been working on that all day, 148 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: have you? 149 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: Tim Just for the last five minutes, just chat GPT. 150 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: And by the way, when Chris Pink opens the Straits 151 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: of Hormos, he's definitely going to be the prime minister. 152 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, did you know that he used to 153 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: be in the name Actually. 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: Yes, in a submarine. Who's done? 155 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know. Do we have subs? 156 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: No? It was it was for no, we don't, we don't. 157 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: It was for I think it was in the ass. 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: He did some time with the Aussies in al That's cool. 159 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Oscar scale of one to ten. How excited 160 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: about the Moon? 161 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: Well, I'm still flabragatd that there are still people that 162 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: don't believe the first time. 163 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people and growing growing. 164 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that just big is Yeah, that just big is 165 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: believed to me. I mean, I think it's cool. But 166 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: also I can't understand where America's you know, shedding money. 167 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: They've got so many issues and yet they're spending all 168 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: this money to go to the Moon again. But I mean, 169 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm excited, and I hope it does kind of at 170 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: least put to bed some of the conspiracy theories, but 171 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: it probably won't. 172 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: Will it? Will it? 173 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: Well, here's here's the thing about the American government. I mean, 174 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: they can't even prosecute a what is it, four to 175 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: six week war effectively? How could they all as a 176 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: conspiracy like of the size that you know, the moon 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: conspiracy conspiracists think it is. And you're right, Oscar, Like 178 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty one, because we're interested in numbers, at 179 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: Maximus Tochuet, the deficit was three billion dollars. It's now 180 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: thirty eight trillion dollars. So there is a MA and 181 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: you know, the interest bill is fifty billion a day. 182 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: What goes up must come down. 183 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, let's we can talk about that for 184 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: hours as well. Hey guys, thank you, appreciate your time. 185 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Oscar Kitely and Tim Wilson a huddle this evening 186 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 187 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 188 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio