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Speaker 1: The Government's announced it will tough en up the sentencing

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Speaker 1: laws this week. They will include extra punishment for bragging

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Speaker 1: online about a crime, as well as using a youth

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Speaker 1: or a child to commit a crime. Justice Minister Paul

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Speaker 1: Goldsmith is with me. Hey Paul, hi, how are you

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Speaker 1: very well? Thank you? How long before this is through

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Speaker 1: the whole process and his law?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to introduce it later this week as

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Speaker 2: his first reading goes off to Select Committee where it's

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Speaker 2: in the hands Parliament. But my expectation is that'll be

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Speaker 2: reported back at probably the end of January and past

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Speaker 2: early February.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. How much tougher will it be the sentences

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Speaker 1: for bragging online about a crime?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's up to the judges. But what

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Speaker 2: we're doing here is making that an aggravating factor when

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Speaker 2: it comes to sentencing. When somebody's caught and I've done

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Speaker 2: a particular crime, whether it's aivated robbery or burglary, and

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Speaker 2: it might be a sort of a starting point at

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Speaker 2: ten years and then there's various discounts applied, and part

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Speaker 2: of the main purpose of the legisty is to reduce

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Speaker 2: those number of discounts to forty percent you might get

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Speaker 2: a discount compleading guilty, but we're worried about all these

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Speaker 2: excessive discounts that were being added. And then there's aggravating

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Speaker 2: factors which go the other way and such as being

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Speaker 2: a gang member, and this is another one that we've

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Speaker 2: added to that list to send a signal. So, I

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Speaker 2: mean what Parliament does through the Sentencing Act is it

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Speaker 2: sends the message to the judiciary and then they apply

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Speaker 2: their discretion. But the basic message that we're sending is

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Speaker 2: that we want tougher sentences and more real consequences for crime,

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Speaker 2: because that's what the community wants to see.

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Speaker 1: Why is the number of victims of violent crime up

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Speaker 1: by thirty thousand.

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Speaker 2: Well, the measure that we're using there is a survey.

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Speaker 2: It's the Victims of Crime Survey, and the question that's

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Speaker 2: asked is have you experienced crime in the past twelve months?

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Speaker 2: And so what we're looking at is a rolling sort

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Speaker 2: of average over a year, and so that includes people

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Speaker 2: who are asked you lie last year, what they did,

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Speaker 2: what happened to them twelve months before, So there's a

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Speaker 2: kind of a two year lag and so what I

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Speaker 2: think we're witnessing is that there was a big increase

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Speaker 2: in violent crime last year that peaked and we're hoping

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Speaker 2: that it'll be starting to turn down. But I think

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Speaker 2: it represents the fact that we've still got a massive

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Speaker 2: challenge when it comes to violent crime. That's why are

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Speaker 2: the things we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Paul, Thank you, appreciate your time, Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister.

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