1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:12,693 --> 00:00:15,133 Speaker 2: We started the show this morning, well, I started the 4 00:00:15,133 --> 00:00:18,773 Speaker 2: show by admitting I am getting more and more digital 5 00:00:18,813 --> 00:00:22,173 Speaker 2: by the day. I'm a sucker for convenience, I admit it. 6 00:00:22,453 --> 00:00:26,773 Speaker 2: So when digital driver's licenses are introduced, I will be 7 00:00:26,813 --> 00:00:29,533 Speaker 2: among the first in line. But in the US, of course, 8 00:00:29,533 --> 00:00:32,133 Speaker 2: they've gone one step further. In the last week, Apple 9 00:00:32,173 --> 00:00:36,053 Speaker 2: has confirmed it's introducing digital passports, just in time for 10 00:00:36,093 --> 00:00:40,373 Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving holiday season. Texbert Paul Stenhouse is here with 11 00:00:40,533 --> 00:00:42,933 Speaker 2: the details. Paul, what could possibly go wrong? 12 00:00:43,733 --> 00:00:48,293 Speaker 3: No? Nothing, And Jack, I'm just like you at the moment, 13 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:50,653 Speaker 3: I could download it and put my passport on my phone. 14 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:52,533 Speaker 2: Of course I did. 15 00:00:52,333 --> 00:00:56,413 Speaker 3: It because it's just convenient. People. Look, unless there's some 16 00:00:56,613 --> 00:01:00,573 Speaker 3: bigger conspiracy or bigger thing happening, all it is is 17 00:01:00,573 --> 00:01:03,853 Speaker 3: that your passport details are loaded onto your phone. It's 18 00:01:03,893 --> 00:01:06,733 Speaker 3: no different really than taking a photo of your past 19 00:01:06,893 --> 00:01:10,693 Speaker 3: or I don't know, writing down the details into a note, 20 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:13,773 Speaker 3: you know, like it really isn't that scary. I think 21 00:01:13,773 --> 00:01:18,213 Speaker 3: people are concerned about maybe the apps and if you 22 00:01:18,373 --> 00:01:21,693 Speaker 3: use it with an app, either in person or online, 23 00:01:21,693 --> 00:01:23,533 Speaker 3: which is part of the feature, right, so it's trying 24 00:01:23,573 --> 00:01:26,813 Speaker 3: to make it more accessible. You know, what could they 25 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:29,733 Speaker 3: do with the data. But you know, maybe I'm naive, 26 00:01:29,933 --> 00:01:32,413 Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong, but I do tend to trust Apple 27 00:01:32,453 --> 00:01:34,533 Speaker 3: with this one, and I will say they made the 28 00:01:34,573 --> 00:01:38,693 Speaker 3: process remarkably easy. So I think when the New Zealand 29 00:01:38,733 --> 00:01:41,493 Speaker 3: Digital driver's licenses roll out, which they were talking about 30 00:01:41,573 --> 00:01:44,213 Speaker 3: late twenty twenty five, which is kind of a nice 31 00:01:44,213 --> 00:01:48,773 Speaker 3: now will it be late twenty twenty five app, you'll 32 00:01:48,773 --> 00:01:50,813 Speaker 3: have a download nap and do this. But Apple is 33 00:01:50,893 --> 00:01:52,613 Speaker 3: just in the wallet app, so you literally just go 34 00:01:52,693 --> 00:01:54,893 Speaker 3: on tap new as if you were adding a credit card. 35 00:01:55,413 --> 00:01:58,653 Speaker 3: You put your phone over top of the passport and 36 00:01:58,693 --> 00:02:02,293 Speaker 3: it just does its thing. It's very easy. 37 00:02:02,613 --> 00:02:05,053 Speaker 2: Okay, So just to be totally clear, you get your 38 00:02:05,053 --> 00:02:08,013 Speaker 2: passport out, you open it a photo page. 39 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:10,453 Speaker 3: Yep, you take a photo of it. It scans the details. 40 00:02:10,493 --> 00:02:12,893 Speaker 3: Then you set your phone on your passport and it 41 00:02:12,973 --> 00:02:15,653 Speaker 3: reads the CHIPEP and it sort of vibrates. I think 42 00:02:15,653 --> 00:02:17,773 Speaker 3: it reads it maybe five times or so to make 43 00:02:17,813 --> 00:02:20,653 Speaker 3: sure it gets the data right, and then it's done right. 44 00:02:21,013 --> 00:02:23,053 Speaker 2: That's it. And so in the US, of course, you 45 00:02:23,133 --> 00:02:26,573 Speaker 2: have to if you're traveling domestically within the US, you 46 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:28,493 Speaker 2: have to show a photo ID, which is not something 47 00:02:28,493 --> 00:02:30,933 Speaker 2: you have to do in New Zealand. And that's where 48 00:02:30,973 --> 00:02:32,813 Speaker 2: this will be used for the time being. Right, they're 49 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:35,653 Speaker 2: not using this for international flights, No they not. 50 00:02:35,693 --> 00:02:37,213 Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that be great You jump off the 51 00:02:37,213 --> 00:02:38,613 Speaker 3: plane and you can just tap your phone. 52 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:41,093 Speaker 2: Surely it won't be long, right, this is my point. 53 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:42,493 Speaker 2: It's not going to be that long, is it. 54 00:02:42,533 --> 00:02:44,413 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, okay, So not to get into the 55 00:02:44,453 --> 00:02:46,533 Speaker 3: nitty gritty details, but there are some things. A vehicle 56 00:02:46,613 --> 00:02:50,493 Speaker 3: trust is trusted traveler programs where effectively you pay money 57 00:02:51,213 --> 00:02:53,573 Speaker 3: and you can become sort of pre vetted. And so 58 00:02:53,653 --> 00:02:56,093 Speaker 3: when I arrive into the country, now, because I do 59 00:02:56,213 --> 00:03:00,293 Speaker 3: this program, I don't even stop. I walk into the 60 00:03:00,293 --> 00:03:04,613 Speaker 3: special it's called Global Entry Line, and it scans my 61 00:03:04,693 --> 00:03:07,333 Speaker 3: face and I don't even have to go up to 62 00:03:07,373 --> 00:03:10,173 Speaker 3: a machine. I just walk straight through. The officer at 63 00:03:10,213 --> 00:03:12,933 Speaker 3: the end says my name to verify it, and I 64 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:15,613 Speaker 3: walk through and I'm done. Like that's passport control. 65 00:03:15,653 --> 00:03:15,773 Speaker 1: Now. 66 00:03:15,773 --> 00:03:17,733 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Yeah, that is pretty good, especially by 67 00:03:17,773 --> 00:03:20,093 Speaker 2: American standards, because yeah, it can be an absolutely varnish 68 00:03:20,253 --> 00:03:23,293 Speaker 2: arriving in the US sometimes. Now New Zealanders are getting 69 00:03:23,293 --> 00:03:24,973 Speaker 2: a new chat GPT feature. 70 00:03:25,493 --> 00:03:27,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're talking about putting your passport on your 71 00:03:27,733 --> 00:03:30,173 Speaker 3: phone in New Zealanders can't get that right now, but 72 00:03:30,573 --> 00:03:35,933 Speaker 3: you can, unlike Americans, start a group chat with chat GPT, 73 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:40,173 Speaker 3: so you can invite up to twenty people to a 74 00:03:40,213 --> 00:03:45,613 Speaker 3: group chat. And apparently chat GPT kind of just lurks. 75 00:03:45,853 --> 00:03:48,333 Speaker 3: Maybe you'd say it's in the group chat. It doesn't 76 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:54,133 Speaker 3: necessarily respond to every message, but it'll just listen and look, 77 00:03:54,253 --> 00:03:56,533 Speaker 3: and when it thinks it has something to add, it'll 78 00:03:57,053 --> 00:04:00,533 Speaker 3: chime in just like it's one of your friends. Or 79 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 3: you can summon it and say, hey, chet GPT, can 80 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:07,573 Speaker 3: you know do this thing for us, so that seeing 81 00:04:07,853 --> 00:04:10,933 Speaker 3: if I guess people want to be collaborative. It's only 82 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:14,453 Speaker 3: in four countries. New Zealand is one of those. It's 83 00:04:14,453 --> 00:04:17,173 Speaker 3: available on every plan. So if you've got even just 84 00:04:17,253 --> 00:04:20,453 Speaker 3: chat GPT for free or you're paying for it, it's 85 00:04:20,653 --> 00:04:22,733 Speaker 3: there and you can invite your friends and you can 86 00:04:22,733 --> 00:04:25,253 Speaker 3: try it, okay to do what. I don't know, what 87 00:04:25,293 --> 00:04:25,893 Speaker 3: do you use it for? 88 00:04:26,093 --> 00:04:29,573 Speaker 2: Well, I suppose like I think about how I use 89 00:04:29,653 --> 00:04:32,853 Speaker 2: my whattap group chats. Right, We've got a family chat, 90 00:04:32,893 --> 00:04:34,733 Speaker 2: and then the kids in my family have a chat, 91 00:04:34,813 --> 00:04:37,333 Speaker 2: and then I've got various friend groups who have chats. 92 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:39,533 Speaker 2: I've got work groups too have chats. And if chat 93 00:04:39,573 --> 00:04:42,173 Speaker 2: GPT was in there and you didn't have to go out, 94 00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,253 Speaker 2: you know, you could just say like, oh, you know, 95 00:04:45,773 --> 00:04:47,893 Speaker 2: if you try to coordinate a holiday, when are the 96 00:04:47,933 --> 00:04:51,053 Speaker 2: holiday dates for term three next year? 97 00:04:51,613 --> 00:04:51,813 Speaker 3: Yeah? 98 00:04:51,853 --> 00:04:54,413 Speaker 2: I suppose I pose something like that could be convenient, 99 00:04:54,453 --> 00:04:55,893 Speaker 2: but yeah, just so. 100 00:04:55,813 --> 00:04:57,653 Speaker 3: Old fashioned that I'm just like, I'd just go and 101 00:04:57,693 --> 00:04:59,533 Speaker 3: ask CHATDVT myself and copy and paste. 102 00:04:59,573 --> 00:04:59,773 Speaker 1: Yes. 103 00:04:59,773 --> 00:05:00,493 Speaker 3: So maybe. 104 00:05:02,613 --> 00:05:04,773 Speaker 2: Five minutes telling us how you've loaded your passport up 105 00:05:04,813 --> 00:05:09,693 Speaker 2: to your phone and speaking of your iPhone, knowing how 106 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:11,933 Speaker 2: fashion forward you are, no doubt you will be shelling 107 00:05:11,933 --> 00:05:13,733 Speaker 2: out what is it, one hundred and fifty US dollars 108 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:17,133 Speaker 2: for the brand new iPhone pocket. Yeah. 109 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:19,893 Speaker 3: I don't know that this will be me. This is 110 00:05:19,933 --> 00:05:22,293 Speaker 3: I'm the same person Jack who thought that when everyone 111 00:05:22,293 --> 00:05:25,293 Speaker 3: started talking about la boo boos that they were it 112 00:05:25,373 --> 00:05:26,773 Speaker 3: was just like a cute way to refer to your 113 00:05:26,853 --> 00:05:27,813 Speaker 3: Christian lubatons. 114 00:05:28,173 --> 00:05:31,493 Speaker 2: Oh okay, no idea that people are gonna know what 115 00:05:31,573 --> 00:05:34,053 Speaker 2: Christian lubatons are Paul you and I of course know 116 00:05:34,053 --> 00:05:35,133 Speaker 2: they're very expensive shoes. 117 00:05:35,493 --> 00:05:38,533 Speaker 3: Don't you read the Red Bottoms fashion. It's one of 118 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:40,893 Speaker 3: the few things I know. Yeah, I assume everybody knows it. 119 00:05:41,573 --> 00:05:45,413 Speaker 3: But so they became this la Boo boos became this 120 00:05:45,453 --> 00:05:48,173 Speaker 3: crazy thing where people are spending stupid amounts of money 121 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:50,173 Speaker 3: on these weird little toys and attention them to bags 122 00:05:50,173 --> 00:05:52,613 Speaker 3: and apparently it's a status symbol. I'll never understand it, 123 00:05:53,013 --> 00:05:55,093 Speaker 3: and I think there's people who think that maybe this 124 00:05:55,173 --> 00:05:59,333 Speaker 3: iPhone pocket is going to be the next Laboo bo 125 00:05:59,413 --> 00:06:03,013 Speaker 3: You know, it's only available in very select Apple stores. 126 00:06:03,213 --> 00:06:08,373 Speaker 3: They are crazy bright colors and Jack, I'm trying to 127 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:10,693 Speaker 3: work out how to describe it because it's sort of 128 00:06:10,733 --> 00:06:13,733 Speaker 3: like just putting your phone into a sock, yes, and 129 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:17,133 Speaker 3: then the sock sort of comes up like supermarket bags, 130 00:06:17,173 --> 00:06:18,933 Speaker 3: and then rejoins at the top, so there's like a 131 00:06:19,013 --> 00:06:21,573 Speaker 3: loop kind of in the middle, a space in the middle. 132 00:06:21,773 --> 00:06:23,493 Speaker 3: So then you can take your phone and do one 133 00:06:23,533 --> 00:06:27,133 Speaker 3: of those fancy little flick it through kind of ties 134 00:06:27,293 --> 00:06:30,733 Speaker 3: onto your bag. Yeah, yeah, or you can you know, 135 00:06:30,773 --> 00:06:32,333 Speaker 3: you can even spend two hundred and thirty. 136 00:06:32,173 --> 00:06:33,333 Speaker 2: Years Oh my God. 137 00:06:33,173 --> 00:06:34,493 Speaker 3: And you can and you can get it as a 138 00:06:34,493 --> 00:06:35,733 Speaker 3: crossbody how about that? 139 00:06:36,573 --> 00:06:39,693 Speaker 2: How can they just like, how can they. 140 00:06:39,973 --> 00:06:45,373 Speaker 3: Off your handbag or across your body in me on yellow? 141 00:06:46,973 --> 00:06:47,173 Speaker 1: Yeah? 142 00:06:47,213 --> 00:06:49,893 Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I couldn't do it, especially at that price. 143 00:06:50,133 --> 00:06:51,853 Speaker 2: My goodness, hey. 144 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:53,293 Speaker 3: Thank you for it though. Yeah. 145 00:06:53,853 --> 00:06:55,853 Speaker 2: See I mean that there is the there's the con 146 00:06:55,893 --> 00:06:58,533 Speaker 2: doesn't it? Three D knitted? What does that even means? 147 00:06:58,533 --> 00:07:01,773 Speaker 2: For goodness sake, Thank you so much, Paul. Yeah, we'll 148 00:07:01,813 --> 00:07:04,013 Speaker 2: make sure we put a photo of the new iPhone 149 00:07:04,053 --> 00:07:06,053 Speaker 2: pocket up on the website as well, so you can 150 00:07:06,053 --> 00:07:08,133 Speaker 2: see what your one hundred and fifty US dollars will 151 00:07:08,173 --> 00:07:10,773 Speaker 2: give you about three hundred New Zealand dollars. No thank 152 00:07:10,813 --> 00:07:11,253 Speaker 2: you from me. 153 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:15,373 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 154 00:07:15,453 --> 00:07:18,253 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 155 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:20,253 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.