1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unique Homes, 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Uniquely for you. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: On the head of tonight Stuart Nash, former Labor Minister. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: Hey Stuart, no, are you made good? 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 4: Thank you? 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: And Tim Wilson's here from the Maxim Institute too. Hey Tim, 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: good evening. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 4: Good evening. How's it going good? 9 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Thank you? 10 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: It's it's it's a delicate balancing act, Stewart, isn't it well? 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: The sort of awkward three way these guys are in 12 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: it is not delicate. 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: I mean I just listened to that Data Sema interview. 14 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 4: I mean what you know he. 15 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: Says he's too efficient in replying to his correspondence. You've 16 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: got Winston Peters, who is our most experienced diplomat, walking 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 3: a real tight rope in international fears and I think 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: doing a fantastic job. And you get this little David 19 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: Seymour cutting right across his path. I think, you know, 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: I'd love to have been a fire on the wharf 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: at that meeting. I suspect it wasn't as cordial as 22 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: David made it out to be. I think Winston would 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: have been absolutely furious with this guy. And you've got 24 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: no sense of contrition there at all. I mean, I 25 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: don't disagree with the content of the letter, I don't 26 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: think anyone does, but the fact that he didn't know that, 27 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: you know, Winston Peters is the guy who deals with 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: New Zealand's affairs on the global stage and just just 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: sends off a letter of his own accord. I mean, 30 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: what planet does this go on? 31 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Is? 32 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, is it that big of a deal? 33 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: It just it just goes to Seamore acting on. He's 34 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: just a bit of an arrogant little toss in my view, everybody, 35 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: I'm not. 36 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: I mean I did like the thing, you know, when 37 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: he said I was too efficient. My corresponds a bit 38 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: like a job and to deal when someone when you're 39 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: asking now tell us your biggest weakness, well, my biggest 40 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: weaknesses that I have absolutely no weaknesses at all. I actually, 41 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 4: I've got to say I think that in a sense 42 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: everyone wins here politically. David Seymour gets to be the 43 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: naughty boy, the role he cherishes. Chris Luxon gets to 44 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: be the angry dad, a role he doesn't play possibly 45 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: often enough, and the un staggers on in substances as 46 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Penrmal so everyone's happy. 47 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: As Tim Wilson on the Huddle. 48 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: The Huddle with Newsan Southby's International Realty, The Ones for Fun, 49 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Last Results. 50 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: News, Tom ZMB. It is thirteen minutes away from six 51 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: to the Huddle Tonight's Stuart Nash and Tim Wilson. Stuart, 52 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: I have to say, you've really set the cat amongst 53 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: the pigeons. The text machine is going nuts. 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Of David Seymour knows no bounds and he is the 55 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: Deputy Prime Minister and in my world that still carries 56 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of weight and you've got to act 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: with dignity and he just does not act with dignity. 58 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: Arrogant seems to be the way forward for David. And 59 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: he is a blind spot because he doesn't realize when 60 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: he's done something wrong. He just charges right on through. 61 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: And he says, student's a knob. 62 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: Ryan. 63 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: He's definitely standing for New Zealand first. He's a greaser, 64 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: no respect for him anyway. We'll move on, We'll move on. 65 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: Hey, don't take it. Don't let the text machine take 66 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: up too much space in your head. 67 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: Stuart. 68 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: It's that's not a good outcome there. 69 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Australia is debating at the moment whether or not 70 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: to put quite prominent labels on their alcoholic drinks, cancer 71 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: warnings on their alcoholic drinks. Other countries are lowering their 72 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: safe drinking guidelines, and ours are actually way above most 73 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: other countries that we would compare ourselves to. Tim, Do 74 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: you think we need to do anything about that? 75 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 76 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean I'm actually wondering why we're worried about drinks 77 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: because last time I checked, didn't our meth use double 78 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: in a year. I mean, we're in the safe guidelines 79 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: for meth use. And I say that, you know, in terms, 80 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm just saying it sort of in a somewhat I'm 81 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: trying to be a bit dry about it, because the 82 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: question about safe guidelines for drinking, how applicable is it? Actually? 83 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: Like when was the last time you're at the pub 84 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: and someone turned to you and said, I've reached number 85 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: fourteen for the week, I'm going to go home? 86 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: Exactly do you think I mean they put Stuart, they 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: put in fact, you might have been in when they 88 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: did this. Put you know, don't drink while pregnant labels 89 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: on wine. I think it was a couple of years ago, 90 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: and it doesn't make a difference. 91 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: It's a little dar winning. And I mean, if you 92 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: want to drink twenty pints at night, you're never going 93 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: to You're never going to reach a hundred. But but 94 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, most key Wes enjoy a beer 95 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: with their mates without seeing a big cancer warning on it. 96 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean, we know tobacco's bad for you, They've got 97 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: that all over the place. But you know, I mean, 98 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to drink a 99 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: bottle of wine with my wife. Will go for a 100 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: beer with my mates, and all I see is, don't drink. You' 101 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: leaned up with cancer. For God's sake, talk about kildren. 102 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: Do we drink if you now again. 103 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: Stuart, probably cancers the least of your worries. If you're 104 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: drinking a bottle of wine with your wife. 105 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: I'll just put it. 106 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: I'll just. 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: No, you're right, you know what I mean, Because they're 108 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: quite occasion, because. 109 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: They're quite okay, they're quite ugly. You know. 110 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: If you think about the labels they have on cigarettes, 111 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: if you could imagine that on an alcoholic drink, that 112 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: would that would probably have some impact, I would think, 113 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: because it's not. 114 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: Exactly the picture of a turna is going to take 115 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: the fun out of a chardonnaye like no tomorrow. And 116 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: also if you compare us, what are we we're fifteen? Well, 117 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: number one, we're sexist because I think it's fifteen for 118 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: men and ten for women. The Aussies interesting, they're both 119 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: men and women. They're allowed ten a week. The UK 120 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: is fourteen, the US is fourteen. So we're sort of 121 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. Now, we like to think we can 122 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: punch above our weight. We're about what the big boys. 123 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Well, well, we all know that, you know, the drinking 124 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: when you reach a certain age, drink too much, it 125 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: never ends well. But again, if you want to have 126 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: a quiet beer with your mates or a wine with 127 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: your your wife, where you want to go out on 128 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: a boy's weekend, then you know the last thing you 129 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: want to see is these bloody tumors and cancel womings 130 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: over everything. I mean, we do. We do know that 131 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: that tobacco is bare for you're right, I mean, that's 132 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: that's proven beyond doubts. So I don't mind seting that 133 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. I mean, who smokes these days, don't know? 134 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: We don't want to smoke. In terms of drinking, I 135 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: mean shits. People. People enjoy gen to socialize and catch 136 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: up with their mates and have a good time. They 137 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: don't want to see that happens. Stuart. 138 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 4: I've just got one question. What's the age when it's 139 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: too much? What age is that when you sop when 140 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: you cut down about one. 141 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: Hundred But well, you know the wine industry, there's a 142 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: couple of glasses of red Wine's actually not bad for 143 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: your brain. So you know, let's go with that. 144 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: You just keep going until it well until it killed you. Basically, Stuart, 145 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. You've people are still texting about you, Stuart. 146 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Stuart Nash former Labor minister with us and maybe you 147 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: soon to be. He's gone on first Minister Tim Wilson 148 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: from the Maximum Institute on the Huddle tonight. 149 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 150 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 151 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio