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Speaker 1: In the Bradi a UK correspondence with us into.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello Heather, good to speak to you.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, so this is just coming out from the

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Speaker 1: BBC right now that Muhammad al Fayed has been accused

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Speaker 1: of rape, yes.

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Speaker 2: Multiple multiple rapes over many, many years. This is a

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Speaker 2: major piece of investigative a journalism by BBC reporters and

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Speaker 2: they have spoken to victims, They have spoken to the

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Speaker 2: head of security who was at Harold's, who had worked

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Speaker 2: for him at the time, dozens of employees, people who

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Speaker 2: worked on the shop floor, and it is a pattern

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Speaker 2: of predatory abuse by a man who was clearly a

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Speaker 2: sexual predator. And al Fayed would walk the shop floor

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Speaker 2: speak to any new particularly young. He had a very

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Speaker 2: keen interest in young girls, any new young employees. They

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Speaker 2: will be promoted up to the offices where he was

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Speaker 2: and selected for abuse. And this happened in London, in Paris,

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Speaker 2: San Tropez, anywhere he went. Basically, the masks absolutely been

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Speaker 2: ripped from the face of Muhammad Alphayed, albeit many years

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Speaker 2: too late.

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Speaker 1: Look, and let's be clear about this in the you

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Speaker 1: know read reading what the BBC is publishing. This is

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Speaker 1: not a case of mistaken consent that this is quite

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Speaker 1: clearly out and out right, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh categorically yes, yes, it's absolutely disgusting. And I salute

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Speaker 2: every single woman who has appeared in this documentary film.

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Speaker 2: Their surnames haven't been used, some have appeared on screen,

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Speaker 2: some have appeared anonymously, as is their right, but they

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Speaker 2: have all spoken out about what Muhammad Alphaya did to them.

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Speaker 2: And this is a pattern, and the pattern is exactly

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Speaker 2: the same all people who were brought in. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a big, prestigious place in the heart of London

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Speaker 2: with a name that the world knows. Getting a job

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Speaker 2: there was a big deal, and he basically worked his

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Speaker 2: way through the young female population of the staff of Harod's.

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Speaker 2: And it's disgusting and it kind of you know, I

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Speaker 2: think for a lot of the victims, that really really

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Speaker 2: hurt them to know that the Crown's portrayal of al

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Speaker 2: Fayed it was as this kind of you know, royal, obsessive,

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Speaker 2: almost devuncular, harmless old man who just wanted his son

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Speaker 2: to marry Diana when they knew he was a rapist.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so he's also accused of having bugged phones and

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Speaker 1: typing people or tapping people and stuff like that. What

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Speaker 1: was that all about?

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Speaker 2: So he was absolutely obsessed to know if any of

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Speaker 2: these girls were talking to each other. So all lines

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Speaker 2: of communication were being tapped and bugged, and he had

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Speaker 2: people listening to everything. There was a culture of fear.

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Speaker 2: It was basically instilling fear in the workforce that don't

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Speaker 2: speak outline or you will be dealt with. And it

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Speaker 2: was run like the Third Reich with a rapist at

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Speaker 2: the top. It's disgusting. I'm sure people will if they

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Speaker 2: want more detail, they can go into it and watch

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Speaker 2: the BBC's work. But it's quite scary to think that

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Speaker 2: this went, this went unpunished, and it was decades and

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Speaker 2: decades of abuse.

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Speaker 1: Hey, why is Sue Gray so valuable?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. She's earning more than the prime minister.

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Speaker 2: Would you believe she's his chief of staff and the

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Speaker 2: story has come out today. I think she may have

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Speaker 2: made an enemy or two in the last forty eight hours,

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Speaker 2: but her salary is all over the papers today and

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Speaker 2: basically she's earning about approximately three hundred and fifty three

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Speaker 2: k and Z, which is about seven and a half

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars more than kir Starmer and a lot of

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Speaker 2: people asking the question, how can the advisor be earning

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Speaker 2: more than the prime minister? But that is absolutely the case,

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Speaker 2: and I think there's a bit of jealousy in Number

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Speaker 2: ten Downing Street that somehow her salary is now all

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Speaker 2: over the papers. We've always known what the Prime minister earns.

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Speaker 2: She is the highest paid chief of staff in British

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Speaker 2: political history. She was.

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Speaker 1: That's good, Bunny, I thank you very much. Ia really

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Speaker 1: appreciated this in the brady Ow UK Correspondence ten to seven.

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