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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. It is seven after four, coming up on the

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Speaker 2: After five Murray Olds in Australia and we're in London before.

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Speaker 1: Seven, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: It's been two months now since the PM amputated Health

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Speaker 2: from Shane Vetti's list of ministerial jobs. In Comes the younger, smoother,

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Speaker 2: more direct, Simeon Brown. He got the job after the

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Speaker 2: polling numbers showed basically health was becoming a problem for

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Speaker 2: Health is the second biggest worry for voters and older voters.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. Older voters more worried about the state

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Speaker 2: It had to do something, and it has. The health

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Speaker 2: remember that debarcle. He's also announced ten thousand extra surgeries

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Speaker 2: will be performed by June. Ordinarily that would be excellent

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Speaker 2: The very reason these patients are being seen to privately

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, So police hand you a girl who's eleven

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Speaker 2: Hey Whites are going to the Food of World Cup.

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Speaker 5: Getting there is one thing. Getting out of your group.

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Speaker 5: That's the new demand because previously getting there was tough.

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Speaker 2: They'd be twenty four minutes after four great to have

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Speaker 2: You'd have seen this today, but it just does not

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Speaker 10: Trying to get that inflation level down whilst making sure

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Speaker 6: They're trying to murder me.

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Speaker 2: You have to watch white loaders to get that reference.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty two minutes away from five Murray Old's

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Speaker 2: Australia corresponds here Murray, good afternoon, Yeah, hi there here

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Speaker 2: you going good? Thank you? What's in the budget?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's what we don't know. I suppose it will

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Speaker 11: So look it's a budget for the here and now.

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Speaker 11: God help us, that Anthony Elberonezi will go to the

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Speaker 11: to take any wind out of Dutton's sales on Thursday

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Speaker 11: his budget reply. Look, that may just be complete hyperbole.

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Speaker 11: I don't know I've read it. I'm just putting it

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Speaker 2: Great to know your chicking the facts for us, Murray.

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Speaker 5: Look at Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: The game has been around i think since eighteen nineties,

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Speaker 11: It's also used for cricket of course, for cricket tests

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Speaker 11: the days they had and a whole lot more protest.

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Speaker 11: That's all I can say.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating. At least I've made a decision. Murray, Thank you. Murray.

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Speaker 2: Old's our Australia Correspondence with all the facts this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: to talk about our battle for a stadium, a national

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Speaker 2: stadium in Auckland, and it's just had a major roadblock.

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Speaker 2: That roadblock being Auckland Council's senior staff who've come out

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Speaker 2: and said it is not worth. We don't have enough

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Speaker 2: public money to pump into a revamped Eden Park, and

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Speaker 2: we don't have enough public money to do the fancy

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Speaker 2: waterfront show stopper Pandy Dropper Stadium that everyone's talking about

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Speaker 2: that's getting people excited down there on the waterfront. So

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Speaker 2: basically we don't have enough money to do anything that.

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Speaker 2: Comparing us to Brisbane, at least they have an event

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Speaker 2: that they're working up to. You know, they have seven

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Speaker 2: years now to get this thing done. At least there's

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Speaker 2: a timeline. We don't even have a timeline. We've basically

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Speaker 2: got nothing. But we'll talk about that after five News

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Speaker 2: Talks THEREB. Barri Soper next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get payments Certainty.

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Speaker 2: News Talks Thereb. It is fourteen minutes away from five.

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Speaker 2: Barris soapis here. Hey Barry, good afternoon, right, good afternoon

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Speaker 2: to you. Now the boundary changes have been redrawn. The

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Speaker 2: big loser, but I'm.

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Speaker 7: Not so sure. Actually, right, don't you reckon Ahu does go,

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Speaker 7: there's no doubt about that. But essentially the Representation Commission

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Speaker 7: looks at numbers and electorates and Wellington's been fairly stagnant

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Speaker 7: when it comes to population. Really, if there was going

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Speaker 7: to be a new electorate or one taken away, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 7: it would have been here on Auckland. But they've resisted

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Speaker 7: that at the moment. But by creating two new electorates

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Speaker 7: in the Wellington region, Kenna, Peru and Kapati, they'll be

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Speaker 7: called they remove as you say, Ohru, Manna and Altaki.

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Speaker 7: Now the Wellington Electric of RONGATAI will absorb parts of

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Speaker 7: Wellington Central, including the suburbs of Mount Cork and Brooklyn.

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Speaker 7: Now they would be more sympathetic to the Greens. I

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Speaker 7: would imagine constituents in that area. And when you look

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Speaker 7: at Wellington Central, it would then take in parts of

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Speaker 7: a Harriu, including the more wealthy Wadestown, Nio and Kindala.

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Speaker 7: Now I wouldn't imagine that they won't be as sympathetic

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Speaker 7: to the Greens. So the loser in all of this

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Speaker 7: be Tamitha Paul of the prisons being full of impoverished

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Speaker 7: people and not violent people, and a visitor to the

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Speaker 7: convicted killer Dean Wickliffe saying that he should get out

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Speaker 7: before he dies of his Honger strike. So she's got

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Speaker 7: the Wellington Central electorate with six thousand and six thousand majority.

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Speaker 7: Now I think she will be more concerned about these

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Speaker 7: boundaries than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, but she will the Greens I

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Speaker 2: think will keep her high on the list knowing that yes, indeed.

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Speaker 2: And then Greg O'Connor is obviously he's the electorate only

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Speaker 2: they're not going to put him homeless, so he's the

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Speaker 2: one that's out of a job.

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Speaker 7: That's actually a very good point the public. They can

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Speaker 7: make submissions now until basically written, until the twenty seventh

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Speaker 7: of April, and then counter objections and finally will see

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Speaker 7: the final boundaries on the eighth of August.

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Speaker 2: There's what's the Green's dirty word?

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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness me and I was listening to Parliament

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Speaker 7: again today. I think we all know what it is,

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Speaker 7: and it's called profit. The Greens were once again showing

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Speaker 7: their economic knowledge when it came to questioning the Prime

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Speaker 7: Minister in the House today. First it was the co

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Speaker 7: Leader Chloe Swarbrick having a go at the government for

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Speaker 7: its drive to encourage foreign investment to this country. Clearly,

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Speaker 7: there's a dirty word in the Greens vocabulary. Like I said,

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Speaker 7: it is profit. It seems these investors should come to

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Speaker 7: New Zealand because they love the country and they should

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Speaker 7: treat us as a charity. Haven't listened to Swarbrick's line

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Speaker 7: of questioning.

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Speaker 6: To the companies that the Prime Minister is asking to

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Speaker 6: build our schools, roads and hospitals want to make a profit.

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Speaker 12: That they may well do, and I would hope they

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Speaker 12: would want to see a return. But what I'm excited

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Speaker 12: about is that there is massive interest from investors who

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Speaker 12: want to build public infrastructure in New Zealand, and the

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Speaker 12: benefits to New Zealanders economically, socially and environmentally are profound.

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Speaker 13: Will that the private companies make through his governments intended

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Speaker 13: public private.

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Speaker 6: Partnerships stay in altero in New Zealand or go offshore.

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Speaker 12: Well, again, our focus is on attracting investment to New

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Speaker 12: Zealand so we can get public infrastructure built.

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Speaker 7: It's about economics. But later in questions to luxon the

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Speaker 7: other co leader of the Greens marvel with Davidson, she

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Speaker 7: was again using that dirty word when it came to

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Speaker 7: the public health system, which you mentioned in your editorial,

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Speaker 7: using private hospitals to reduce waiting lists, which they've been

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Speaker 7: doing now in this country for many years. You could

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Speaker 7: be forgiven for lux And pulling out his hair if

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Speaker 7: he had any to pull out, but this was his

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Speaker 7: rationale against Davidson when it came to farming out work

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Speaker 7: to the private sector.

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Speaker 12: You're lying on a bed looking up at a selling

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Speaker 12: You're less hung up as to whether it's been done

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Speaker 12: in a public system or a private system. You just

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Speaker 12: want relief done as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 14: Does he think New Zealanders will be happy to know

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Speaker 14: that our collective resources are being spent on helping private

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Speaker 14: companies make profit of healthcare.

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Speaker 12: I think when New Zealanders are facing a massive witless

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Speaker 12: for elective surgeries and getting access to first specialist appointments,

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Speaker 12: what they want is a government that's focused on patients

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Speaker 12: and outcomes for patients.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, i'd say here here to that. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 7: profit is clearly not expected by the Greens on anything.

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Speaker 2: No, Berry, I don't know if I can handle these

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Speaker 2: sessions any longer. If you keep coming in here and

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Speaker 2: bringing us grabs from Parliament like that, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much longer we can do this. It just, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it will put us in hospital if we keep listening

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 5: The mind boggles, doesn't it know?

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Speaker 7: Really, When you listen to the logic behind some of

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Speaker 7: these questions, you think, hang on, is this person in

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Speaker 7: the same country as us.

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Speaker 5: Are they on the same wavelength.

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Speaker 7: The answer is they're in the same country but on

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Speaker 7: the same way length.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper, senior political correspondent at news Coalk zed be

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Speaker 2: great to have you. As always, it is nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, some mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 15: Desire mister joint us, tell me how you can have

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Speaker 15: a wind farm? The wind farm was rejected under the

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Speaker 15: previous government's fast train it right, So how is it

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Speaker 15: you can't have a renewable facility under fast say?

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Speaker 2: What do you need to do well?

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Speaker 16: First of all, that's under Parker's old fast track provisions.

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Speaker 16: That was insanely stupid. What we've got under our fast

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Speaker 16: tracked legislations. Our priority is on economic growth.

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Speaker 15: But then you've got these issues. For example, a council

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Speaker 15: stopping the clock on building is one. How much resistance

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Speaker 15: are you facing from people who will use every mechanism

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Speaker 15: possible to stall you, slow you and run their own agenda.

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Speaker 16: We're pretty clear eight about it, which is that we're

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Speaker 16: facing a massive culture in New Zealander.

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Speaker 15: No back tomorrow at six am. The mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 15: with the rain drover of the laugh News talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Five away from five. Somebody has said, did Barry just

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Speaker 2: use the word logic and greens in the same sentence.

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Speaker 2: There is no logic to any of their brains. I

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Speaker 2: would like to think. I would like to think that

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Speaker 2: there is. I'd like to think that there is a

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Speaker 2: nice middle ground where you can kumbai our on a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff, including health. But I just don't

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Speaker 2: think we're anywhere near close to it at this point.

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Speaker 2: Another is Ryan, have you been to fullsythe bar or

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Speaker 2: to the cake Tin? Both dumps? They're both dumps. Give

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Speaker 2: me Eden Park any day. I can drive and walk

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Speaker 2: in ten minutes to the ground. I have zero desire

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Speaker 2: to go to the city where the homeless and scumbags

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Speaker 2: are living. Leave it to the leafy suburb of Mount

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Speaker 2: Eden right by Auntie Helen. Okay, quite a firm view

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Speaker 2: on where the stadium should be. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: after five o'clock. Watch out this week for the government's announcement.

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Speaker 2: Remember we spoke to Nichola Willis last night about this.

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Speaker 2: The government is going to make an announcement on the

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Speaker 2: supermarket crackdown. They're going to try and open up Cabinets

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Speaker 2: made a decision. Nichola Willis told us that last night

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Speaker 2: they're going to try and open up and attract a

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Speaker 2: new large supermarket player to set up shop here in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: There are real barriers to a large scale new entrant

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Speaker 13: and the point is that it's good having a niche

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Speaker 13: grocery provider open, but unless you get someone who's opening

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Speaker 13: up multiple stores, it's hard to get that competition impact.

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Speaker 13: So that's something I've been engaging with a range of

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Speaker 13: smaller players and that's something I've identified and it's clear

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Speaker 13: to me that the government will need to take further

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Speaker 13: action in this space. Cabinet has made some decisions here

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Speaker 13: and we will be making announcements in the next week.

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Speaker 2: There you go. So that was last night. Keep your

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Speaker 2: eye up for an announcement on that this week. The

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Speaker 2: big question for the government is how when super markets

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Speaker 2: are so profitable right now, if you were an international player,

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Speaker 2: you'd be looking at this market surely saying I want

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Speaker 2: to get in there. If you're going to make it

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Speaker 2: less profitable, who's going to want to come here then? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we look at the stadium and we'll look at employment

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Speaker 2: after fight.

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Speaker 1: So questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: for the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy Allen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good evening at a seven, half to five.

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Speaker 2: I'll look at the employment numbers in just a second

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Speaker 2: right now, though, the stadium showdown for our national Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Auckland. Auckland Council staff have been looking into this.

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Speaker 2: Do you jazz up Eden Park? Do you go for

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Speaker 2: the glitzy new waterfront stadium with a fifty thousand capacity?

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Speaker 2: Which one are you going to go for? The council

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Speaker 2: staff have come back and said basically neither. Neither proponent

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Speaker 2: has demonstrated that their proposal is feasible without significant public funding.

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Speaker 2: Now the council will vote on this on Thursday. This

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Speaker 2: on the same day Brisbane announces a sixty thousand capacity

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Speaker 2: brand spanking News stadium that will open for the Olympics

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Speaker 2: in twenty thirty two. Shane Henderson is with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: He's the Auckland Counselor and chair of the Stadium working Group.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, John, how's it going good? Thank you?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 2: Is that about right? The staff have said neither is

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Speaker 2: going to work financially.

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Speaker 17: Yes, staff have said there's issues with both proposals, particularly

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Speaker 17: financially what the key Park proposal is also kind of

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Speaker 17: further difficulties around kind of the technicality of what they're

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Speaker 17: trying to do down there. So yeah, both bids have

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Speaker 17: some issues exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what was the point in getting council staff to

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Speaker 2: look at them in the first place.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think we've got to get the people in

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Speaker 17: the room that can kick the tires on the finances

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Speaker 17: and every other kind of aspect of it to give

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Speaker 17: us that advice that's come back and advanced Thursday and

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Speaker 17: it said, look, they're both fighting to a draw. Well,

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Speaker 17: I think, honestly, Ukland is one a bit more certainty

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Speaker 17: than that, and I think it's still open to us

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Speaker 17: to endorse one of the two options.

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Speaker 2: So what do you expect will happen on Thursday That

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Speaker 2: there'll be a stay of proceedings, you know, let's pause

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Speaker 2: until we can get more information.

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Speaker 17: I think that's an option, is to stay the proceedings

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Speaker 17: and let it sort of set for a bit and

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Speaker 17: get more and so and let teams work on it.

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Speaker 17: But another option, honestly is to put on the table

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Speaker 17: one of the two options and get counselors to vote

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Speaker 17: on it, and if it does pass, then we've got

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Speaker 17: some certainty for Aucklanders and the team that is successful

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Speaker 17: can go ahead and work on those issues.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, which one would you vote for?

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Speaker 17: Look, honestly, I'm leading towards eden Park two point one.

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Speaker 17: At the stage we can stage that development so that

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Speaker 17: it can the risk is a bit more manageable and honestly,

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Speaker 17: looking at the report and the advice, they've got a

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Speaker 17: few less issues of the two.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing with eden Park that's going to

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Speaker 2: cost tax payers. They want to hunt million dollars to

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Speaker 2: jazz it up. You know. Yeah, that's all very well

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Speaker 2: and good for you to vote for, but what about

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country. I'm going to be happy

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I can understand that. And look, as part of

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Speaker 17: our process is Augland Council. We've been very clear that

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Speaker 17: ratepayers money is not in the equation and so they

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Speaker 17: need to knock on some doors themselves, even Parker choosing

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Speaker 17: to knock on the government store. And I'd suggest that

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Speaker 17: if any kind of private funding they can attract would

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Speaker 17: be very appropriate as well, we don't know what the

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Speaker 17: outside is from the government, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Shane, thanks very much for being with me. Shane Henderson,

679
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Speaker 2: who is the chair of the Stadium Working Group organd counselor.

680
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Speaker 2: It is ten auf to five people around the country

681
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: feeling pretty pessimistic about their chances of getting a job.

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Speaker 2: The wes Pac McDermot Miller Employment Confidence Index, which is

683
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Speaker 2: where you go out and ask people how are you

684
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: feeling about your job prospects, it's dropped to eighty eight

685
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Speaker 2: point three. That is the lowest level since September twenty twenty,

686
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Speaker 2: which was after the lockdowns, So that's not a great

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Speaker 2: stat Michael Gordon's Westpac senior Econosty's with me. Now, Hi, Michael,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon. Why are things looking so Why are people

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Speaker 2: feeling so grim?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think it's the reality of jobs are still

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Speaker 18: pretty hard to come by. We hear from certainly from

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Speaker 18: businesses that while they're some of them are having trouble

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Speaker 18: fillings more specialist roles, but they're tending to find that

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Speaker 18: there's generally a lot of people available, and some of

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Speaker 18: them also finding themselves a bit overstaffed having held on

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Speaker 18: to people through the downturn, So there's just not a

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Speaker 18: lot being advertised at the moment, and that's rarely been

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Speaker 18: the biggest driver of that perception that things are pretty

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Speaker 18: tough in the jobs market at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Depends where you live, though, doesn't it. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: look at some of the regions and actually things are

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Speaker 2: looking quite good.

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Speaker 18: It varies a bit, I think, probably more so in

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Speaker 18: terms of earnings and the job opportunities is what's coming

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Speaker 18: through in our survey. Whither I will obviously the exceptions.

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Speaker 18: I think there's been stories about quite a bit of

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Speaker 18: activity around recent and parts of the West Coast as well,

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Speaker 18: But generally we sort of found that there's sort of

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Speaker 18: a bit more variation in It's sort of more the

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Speaker 18: farming areas where they're seeing some pretty decent gains from

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Speaker 18: high dairy and beef prices. Is not necessarily flowing out

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Speaker 18: into spending in the wider regions yet, but certainly those

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Speaker 18: more directly linked to it are finding things a bit

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Speaker 18: better than those of us in the cities.

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Speaker 2: Michael, When is it going to get worse? When does

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Speaker 2: it end? And and you know, when does the confidence return?

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Speaker 18: The labor market tends to be one of the slower

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Speaker 18: things to turn with the cycle. So even if you

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Speaker 18: consider those GDP figures we had last week, so we've

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Speaker 18: got some growth out of it, it's probably the underlying pictures.

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Speaker 18: It's not really out stripping population growth at the moment.

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Speaker 18: So it'll take a bit more than what we've seen

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Speaker 18: to date to sort of really actually be able to

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Speaker 18: start to generate some jobs. And and as a result

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Speaker 18: of that, we're expecting the unemployment rate is going to

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Speaker 18: go a bit higher this year before it peaks. We're

727
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Speaker 18: not talking, you know, peak, really high peaks compared to

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Speaker 18: what we've seen in some past cycles, but you know,

729
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Speaker 18: undoubtedly it's you know, it's quite a bit different from

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Speaker 18: where we were a couple of years ago when there

731
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Speaker 18: was very you know, we're all very low rates of unemployment.

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Speaker 2: All right, Michael, thanks so much for your analysis. Michael Gordon,

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Speaker 2: Westpac Senior Economists, twelve minutes after five. Coming up in

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Speaker 2: a few moments, we're going to talk to somebody who's

735
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Speaker 2: been studying investment trends, returns on investments for some pretty

736
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Speaker 2: weird alternative assets. But it's fascinating because they're looking at

737
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Speaker 2: you know, your stop, your traditional your stock market your property.

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Speaker 2: What are your average earnings per year versus some more

739
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Speaker 2: obscure investments like wine, like whiskey, even lego. That'll be

740
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Speaker 2: interesting chat coming away in just a few minutes very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Some stats on euthanasia from the Netherlands. Because the reason

742
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Speaker 2: this is significant is because we passed euthanasia legislation in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand to dying and it's to help those who

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Speaker 2: are at the end of their life. We now have

745
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Speaker 2: people pushing to expand the scope and the definition so

746
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Speaker 2: that more people can have access to that, and it's

747
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Speaker 2: all based on the system from the Netherlands. Now, the

748
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Speaker 2: Netherlands have just released some stats. In the past year,

749
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Speaker 2: euthanasia was up ten percent, which is unusual because it's

750
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Speaker 2: not new there. It's the oldest and broader system in

751
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Speaker 2: the world. Deaths have gone from nine thousand to ten thousand,

752
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Speaker 2: which is significant. Doctors are worried specifically about psychiatric illness,

753
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Speaker 2: mental illness and dementia. That number increased from one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty eight in twenty twenty three to two hundred

755
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Speaker 2: and nineteen in twenty twenty four. So some are saying, well,

756
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: this is natural as you get aging population but others

757
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: are saying, this is why you shouldn't include mental illness,

758
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Speaker 2: things like dementia and your definitions, because you start to

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Speaker 2: open up four people to you know, to end their

760
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: lives legally and with the assistance of a doctor, when

761
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: that is not exactly what you want when you're setting

762
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Speaker 2: the legislation out in the first place, and certainly not

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Speaker 2: what people intended. Fourteen after five Newstalk SVB News Talks

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Speaker 2: HEB Seventeen minutes after five, somebody has texted to say

765
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Speaker 2: how much are the Ossie's going to spend on this

766
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Speaker 2: new stadium in Brisbane. I can tell you that they

767
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: have revealed today. This is the stadium they've announced today

768
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Speaker 2: that is sixty thousand capacity that will be open in

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Speaker 2: time for the twenty thirty two Olympics. Three point eight

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Speaker 2: billion Australian dollars for a sixty thousand capacity. Seventeen after

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Speaker 2: five new research shows that you might be better off

772
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Speaker 2: investing your money into Whiskey and Lego rather than the

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Speaker 2: share market. Whiskey came out on top with an average

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00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 2: annual return of seventeen point five two percent over ten years,

775
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: while more traditional investing into the S and B five hundred,

776
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: for example, return just twelve percent a year over a

777
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Speaker 2: long period. Gertja and verdict is the University of Auckland

778
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: finance lecture. Who's been looking into this is with me now,

779
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: good evening, Thank you for having me. How realistic is

780
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Speaker 2: that making lots of money off Lego?

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Speaker 8: Well, it's not really that realistic in terms of percentage

782
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 8: is amazing, but we're talking about actual small amounts of money.

783
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Speaker 2: How much have you found people are investing in stuff

784
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Speaker 2: like lego or whiskey.

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Speaker 8: More than than you would think. So Lego is slowly

786
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 8: building up, but the drinkable so wine and whiskey, especially

787
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 8: since the pandemic has increased significantly.

788
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Speaker 2: Give us the numbers. What what is you know? The

789
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Speaker 2: top three owners.

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Speaker 8: So in terms of actual percentage, like whiskey is by

791
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 8: far number one. Then we have baseball cards, which also

792
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 8: has as a very nice return than we are at

793
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Speaker 8: wine and Lego.

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Speaker 2: So baseball cards, let's peck them out. So between nineteen

795
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Speaker 2: eighty seven and twenty twenty three they posted an every

796
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: annual return of thirteen percent a year, which is incorrect

797
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: more than the S and P five hundred return per

798
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: year over twenty years. That's correct, yes, And I mean,

799
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Speaker 2: what is this research telling us we should go and

800
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Speaker 2: pile our money there.

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Speaker 8: No, definitely not. What this research shows is that there

802
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Speaker 8: is value in adding an additional component to your traditional

803
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 8: portfolio of stocks and bonds, because having something real, something tangible,

804
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 8: is worth something, and it can produce a very nice

805
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 8: additional return on top of your normal portfolio.

806
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Speaker 2: Do you have any little extra or alternative investments yourself.

807
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Speaker 8: So, I'm myself a wine expert. I do research on

808
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 8: wine as well, so I have a small proportion of

809
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Speaker 8: my portfolio dedicated to wine, and I'm also consulted for

810
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Speaker 8: wine investment funds, which I do not disclose in the book.

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Speaker 8: So all the examples in the book are not something

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Speaker 8: I'm affiliated with.

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Speaker 2: Ah, so are the funds that will manage your money

814
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Speaker 2: for you and invest in alternative assets like this, because

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Speaker 2: I mean, for your average punter, learning about baseball cards

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Speaker 2: or lego or whatever it might be, you know, quite

817
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Speaker 2: a time consuming thing to do.

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Speaker 8: So that's something we actually show in the book. So

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Speaker 8: you have a direct investment where you can actually go

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Speaker 8: and buy your lego set, but we also offer a

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Speaker 8: lot of indirect options as well. So Art for instance,

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Speaker 8: there's growing platforms online where it can buy a small

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Speaker 8: piece of art but also wine. As I mentioned the

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Speaker 8: wine investment funds Whiskey similar issue, similar thing. You have

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Speaker 8: whiskey investment funds as well. So there are indirect options

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Speaker 8: which we clearly show what the benefits are also what

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Speaker 8: the disadvantages are.

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Speaker 2: Within the book, Dan give us you a hot tip

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Speaker 2: on wine. What should we be buying?

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Speaker 8: So Australian w is actually pretty pretty good at the moment.

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Speaker 8: So think about your pen Falls for instance. That is

832
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Speaker 8: something that there's growing interest across the world. People are

833
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Speaker 8: moving away from your traditional Bordeaux French style line and

834
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Speaker 8: moving more into this Californian, Australia and Argentinian wines.

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Speaker 2: Hard thing about that, and you mentioned pen Folds is

836
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Speaker 2: actually keeping it and not drinking it exactly.

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Speaker 8: There's a small imsen consumption and investment.

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Speaker 2: This certainly is gets you on, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Getsion verdict who's University of Auckland finance lecturer, and the

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Speaker 2: verdict is out. Basically, your wine collection is worth something.

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Speaker 2: Don't bother with the share market twenty one after five.

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Speaker 2: really gone. They had to delete one from the North

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Speaker 2: Island due to the population changes. Basically, there are quotas

871
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Speaker 2: that must be met in order to have a certain

872
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: number of electorates, and there are fewer people living in

873
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Speaker 2: the Lower North Island of New Zealand and you've got

874
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Speaker 2: to keep things equal. The Lower North Island population is

875
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Speaker 2: below the target quota, which is actually true of Auckland

876
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Speaker 2: as well. But what they've done is taken into account

877
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Speaker 2: population growth projected population growth. So while Wellington is below

878
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: quota and Auckland is below quota, they've gone well Auckland

879
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Speaker 2: is going to increase, whereas Wellington's population is expected to decrease.

880
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Speaker 2: So lots of movement on the boundaries, too many to list.

881
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: But the wain thing you need to take away from

882
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: today is that a har Au is gone and that

883
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Speaker 2: means that Greg O'Connor, Labor MP is gone. Why because

884
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: he went electorate only. Remember last time, last election he

885
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Speaker 2: said he would quit if he didn't hold onto his

886
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: electorate seat. Now the seat is gone. Therefore, ipso facto,

887
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Speaker 2: so is Greg O'Connor. Ryan Bridge past past, goodbye Greg O'Connor.

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00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: Good evening twenty seven After five news talks EB A

889
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Speaker 2: lot of key was working. How would Greg be? Probably

890
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: close to maybe over seventy A lot of people working

891
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: over the age of sixty five? News stats for you

892
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Speaker 2: after six?

893
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Speaker 1: Oh aren't you on? Need you old girl?

894
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Speaker 5: Lead?

895
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Speaker 1: It is beautiful season. Oh on the iHeart app. And

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Speaker 1: in your car on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge

897
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Speaker 1: on Heather Duplicy Allen Drive with one New Zealand. Let's

898
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Speaker 1: get connected news talks, they'd be coming myself, Joy tell me.

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Speaker 16: Every week fifty gone tells.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five away from sexier on news talks, there'd be

901
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: after sex We're gonna look at those who are over

902
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: the age of sixty five and still working. Guess how

903
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: many people over ninety are still working in New Zealand.

904
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Speaker 2: Twelve hundred Pretty impressive right now. Earlier, just well, just

905
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Speaker 2: before news I said, how old was Greg O'Connor and

906
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Speaker 2: postured that perhaps he was over the age of seventy. Well,

907
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Speaker 2: he's sixty six years of age, Ryan, I reckon greg o'

908
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Speaker 2: connor would be sixty seven, Simon, you were close. Another says, Hi,

909
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Speaker 2: this is for Greg O'Connor. How's the Johnsonville Mall redevelopment progressing?

910
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: If for anyone who knows anything about Johnsonville Johnsonville Mall, well,

911
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Speaker 2: the reason you don't is because we don't go there.

912
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: There's nothing to The redevelopment has been in the works

913
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Speaker 2: for possibly death. In fact, I think since the eighties,

914
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Speaker 2: since the thing has been going. So there you go,

915
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Speaker 2: Ohari you the electric no more? And Greg O'Connor, well,

916
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Speaker 2: no he's not no more, but his time as the

917
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Speaker 2: MP is no more. Twenty four minutes away from six Cranbridge,

918
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Speaker 2: event promoter Brent Eenkles has made a suggestion for how

919
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: to avoid another Juicy Fest De Barkle They to catch

920
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: you up on this. The promoter of the Juicy Fests

921
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: and Timeless Summer events have gone bust. It's looking like

922
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Speaker 2: people who bought their tickets to those events won't be

923
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Speaker 2: able to get refunds because the money's well, it's all gone.

924
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: Brent Eckles of Eckles Entertainment spoke to Matt and Tyler

925
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Speaker 2: on ZB afternoons. He says ticketing companies should be forced

926
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Speaker 2: to hold on to all the ticket money until after

927
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Speaker 2: an event has actually happened.

928
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Speaker 18: The only effect would be that the punter is protected

929
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Speaker 18: and if things go wrong and do go wrong and

930
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Speaker 18: go wrong for there as well. But you know that

931
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Speaker 18: the money, the ticket money goes straight back to the

932
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Speaker 18: ticket buyer as the very person you do it for

933
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Speaker 18: show is canceled.

934
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Speaker 2: So how would this work with smaller productions? Owen Evans

935
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Speaker 2: is an event promoter managing director of Low Fire Productions.

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Speaker 2: Hello Owen, good, but how are you good? Thank you?

937
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Speaker 2: So how does it normally work if it's particularly a

938
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Speaker 2: smaller event. Would you hold on to the money and

939
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Speaker 2: till the event or do you need to spend it? First?

940
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Speaker 19: Look that this is very nuanced. We've been on both sides.

941
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Speaker 19: We're dealing with an industry with a massive lack of

942
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Speaker 19: integrity a lot of the time. So whereas I don't

943
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Speaker 19: have the answer, but I will say the sides that

944
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Speaker 19: we are. We if the ticketing company held onto the

945
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Speaker 19: ticketing money until after the event, we wouldn't be able

946
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Speaker 19: to throw events. We we rely on early bird ticketing

947
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Speaker 19: and ticketing systems to get cash flow and so that

948
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Speaker 19: we can throw events. Now where of the size where

949
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Speaker 19: we that where how we work is we will we

950
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Speaker 19: will throw four or five smaller gigs a year, club

951
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Speaker 19: gigs to get money in the bank, and then we'll

952
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Speaker 19: take a risk on a festival and usually most of

953
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Speaker 19: the time festivals lose money. We do it for the

954
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Speaker 19: love and the passion. It's just the size we are.

955
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Speaker 19: We're also we'relso housing techno in a country that predominantly

956
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Speaker 19: predominantly loves drum and bass, so we're always up against it.

957
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Speaker 19: But if we didn't have that cash flow, we wouldn't

958
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 19: be able to to run. Basically, so you.

959
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Speaker 20: Would kill You would kill a lot of.

960
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Speaker 19: Small time promoters like myself if you went down that track.

961
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Speaker 2: What's the reason gigs are normally canceled? Is it? Is

962
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: it usually because the artist pulls out, or you know,

963
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: because they often give the excuse, you know, un forseen

964
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Speaker 2: circumstances or whatever. What's the real reason it stopped?

965
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Speaker 20: Well, I.

966
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Speaker 8: Don't know.

967
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 19: For us, the only the only time we struggled to

968
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Speaker 19: pay people was either a knock on effect from from

969
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Speaker 19: not being paid by other people or things like the

970
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Speaker 19: floods and COVID and we we had to we had

971
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Speaker 19: to dig into our own pockets to pay that or

972
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Speaker 19: I think with the I think with COVID we had

973
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Speaker 19: to do a couple more gigs to get the money

974
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Speaker 19: and to pay the past bills. But yeah, if if

975
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Speaker 19: if an act cancels, we're so far we're so far

976
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 19: away from everything that, like, if an act cancels, you

977
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Speaker 19: can't just replace it with another DJ or act because

978
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Speaker 19: we don't have that level of quality and pull in

979
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Speaker 19: the z We have acts that are amazing, But if

980
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Speaker 19: you have an act that pulls ten thousand people and

981
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Speaker 19: then they pull out, like you can't replace theme like

982
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Speaker 19: she had or something and expected to work like.

983
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Speaker 2: Answer, So the tyranny of distance. Owen, I appreciate you

984
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: coming on the show mate, thanks for your time. Yeah, no,

985
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Speaker 2: it's thanks boy, cheers Owen. It's on Evans. He's an

986
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Speaker 2: event promoter, pushing back a little bit at this idea

987
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: that you should get all big festivals, small festivals, any

988
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: size festival to hold onto all the ticket money until

989
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: the event has actually been held to avoid another juicy

990
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Speaker 2: fest twenty to six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the ones

992
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: with local and global reach.

993
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Speaker 2: On the Huddle tonight, Ali Jones, red pr good evening,

994
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Ali Gooday?

995
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 21: How are you right?

996
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: Good? Thank you? And Nick leggets with us to Infrastructure

997
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Hey Nick, Hello, So how do we feel

998
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: about taxpayer funding for a revamped A bit of lipstick

999
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: on Eden part to the tune of one hundred million dollars.

1000
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: This is what they have proposed. Auckland councils get to decide.

1001
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: They're going to decide on Thursday. Ali, how do you feel?

1002
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Well?

1003
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 21: Look, I'm stoked about our what do you call it? Stadium?

1004
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 21: Thank you?

1005
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 22: That's the word I'm looking for, which is due to

1006
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 22: open next year. And I think one of the things

1007
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 22: that a number of people have been saying for a

1008
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 22: while is, because of course these things always create conversations

1009
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 22: and arguments and disagreements, is that it's never going to

1010
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 22: get any cheaper, right, So whatever the decision is, I

1011
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 22: think it needs to be made. One of the things

1012
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 22: that I've noticed is reading up a bit about this,

1013
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 22: because you know, I don't really care about what's.

1014
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 21: Built in Auckland.

1015
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 22: Ryan, is that the transport is a real issue here,

1016
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 22: and you tell me this, but apparently there are limited

1017
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 22: transport options and limited by the Kingsland station. I do

1018
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 22: know where that is and I have used it, and

1019
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 22: I would have thought that a stadium in the middle

1020
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 22: of the city is the way to go. Isn't that

1021
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 22: going to bring in many economic benefits?

1022
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, although we do have the supposedly we do have

1023
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: the City rail Link coming which should help, which should

1024
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: help with that situation. But the other issue here is

1025
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: the one hundred million dollars from the government that they're

1026
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: one that.

1027
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean these things are expensive. I agree

1028
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 6: with Ali though that make a decision and get it going.

1029
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 6: But I do care about what goes on in Auckland.

1030
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 6: That's such a massive part of our economy and a

1031
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 6: massive part of our country. So they do need to

1032
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 6: get this right. And also I think being connected to

1033
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 6: public transport and other transport. You know, you think about

1034
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: connection to the shore, new connection hopefully to the North Shore,

1035
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 6: another harbor bridge option or tunnel, and also, as you say,

1036
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 6: the City rail link. It's really important. This is central

1037
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 6: It's also really important that we don't just see it

1038
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 6: as a stadium in isolation. What can go around it?

1039
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 6: Places for people to work, places for people to shop,

1040
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 6: places for people to live. We've got to stop thinking

1041
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 6: about these things as sort of singular pieces of infrastructure.

1042
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 6: It's about what can you grow around it? And yeah, look,

1043
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 6: I'm city center all the way, and we've got to

1044
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 6: build the sort of connections that we need so people

1045
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 6: can get to it and get around it.

1046
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Speaker 22: You are so right, though, Nick, about changing the mindset

1047
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 22: about it just being a stadium. That was a big

1048
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 22: part of what we did in christ Church. So you know,

1049
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 22: we didn't even use the words stadium. We used the

1050
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 22: phrase multi use arena or multi use stadium. And now

1051
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 22: they're calling it a multi functional arena. And you're absolutely right.

1052
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 22: It cannot be a place that you know, lights up

1053
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 22: when there's an event and then dies when there's nothing happening.

1054
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 21: That's just not the way.

1055
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Speaker 6: To do it.

1056
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: Hey, I've seem to remember a figure of about six

1057
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars for Takaha. Is that on budget? And

1058
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: how far far how far away is it from opening?

1059
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1060
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 22: On budget on time, six hundred and eighty three million

1061
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 22: all up, and that was with government contribution as well.

1062
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 22: So the council put four hundred and fifty three in

1063
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 22: and government put in two hundred and thirty and that

1064
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 22: came from a number of different funds and things.

1065
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 21: After the earthquakes. They started building it in.

1066
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 22: April twenty twenty two and on track to be open

1067
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Speaker 22: in April twenty twenty six.

1068
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Speaker 2: That sounds like a steal to me right now. I'm

1069
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Speaker 2: just reading about in Brisbane they've announced today their Olympic

1070
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: Stadium opening twenty thirty two. The cost is three point

1071
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: eight billion Australian for a sixty thousand capacity.

1072
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Speaker 22: But twenty twenty two it started, and you know how

1073
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 22: construction costs have gone up, so you know, with those

1074
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 22: sorts of figures, it's not unreasonable to expect that kind

1075
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Speaker 22: of cost.

1076
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, Ellie Jones read pr Nick leg Get

1077
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Speaker 2: back in just a few moments and we're going to

1078
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: pick Allie's brain about some quite controversial comments on disability

1079
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Speaker 2: car parks.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

1081
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Speaker 2: Find you all, what of a kind news talk, said b

1082
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Speaker 2: Allie Jones and Nick Leggett on the huddle tonight. Nick,

1083
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Speaker 2: you were obviously former mayor of Puttydor and some big

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Speaker 2: boundary electric boundary changes have taken place which will affect Mana,

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Speaker 2: which is where Pottydor is. Give people a sense of

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Speaker 2: what the change means for you know you your average voter.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, I mean Mana was formed in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 6: six when MMP came on the scene, and it was

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Speaker 6: great because we finally had an electorate that covered the

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Speaker 6: whole of put It to a city which is now

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Speaker 6: a city of approaching sixty thousand people, not insignificant, and

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Speaker 6: actually I think it helped bring the city together because

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Speaker 6: Mana will put It is very diverse, lots of different

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Speaker 6: socioeconomic groups, lots of different cultural and ethnic groups, and

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Speaker 6: I think we've been more together as a result of

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Speaker 6: having one electra. So I'm not wrapped at this. It

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Speaker 6: takes us back to first pass the post days when

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Speaker 6: the northern part of the city went up to Carpody.

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Speaker 6: Carpety Coast has its own electric now with this new

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Speaker 6: bit of putt It and obviously the Orhardi electorate really

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Speaker 6: gets sort of split three three ways. But it goes

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Speaker 6: to south, it goes to Welling and Central and then

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Speaker 6: quite a big bit goes into Mana. So look, I've

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Speaker 6: got no problem with unifying North Wellington and put it on.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a big fan of amalgamation in the region.

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Speaker 6: We only need one council here, so you know, perhaps

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Speaker 6: that might bring things along there. But yeah, so sad

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Speaker 6: for me, but I sort of understand. You know, Wellington

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Speaker 6: in the region is not growing like other parts of

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Speaker 6: the country, so we've lost an electric seat. That's the

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Speaker 6: consequence people. When you don't grow your population and you

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Speaker 6: don't grow your economy and you don't get it together

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Speaker 6: as a region, you lose stuff. And we've got to

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Speaker 6: do better there.

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Speaker 2: Ellie, I want to talk to you about the disability

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Speaker 2: car parks thing. So is how's your week been.

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Speaker 21: It's been challenging. Thanks for asking.

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Speaker 22: My god, the pearl necklace clutching and outcry was just extraordinary, Ryan,

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Speaker 22: I don't know what you understood from from what was reported.

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Speaker 22: Why was it even a story? What I said was,

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Speaker 22: does anyone ever see these five or so car parks

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Speaker 22: mobility car parks Roliston av in christ Church? Does anyone

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Speaker 22: ever see them used? Because you know I'm down there

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Speaker 22: a bit. I cycle down there just quietly and go

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Speaker 22: to the Loomier Cinema and the Art Center and the gardens,

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Speaker 22: and I never or very very rarely see any vehicle

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Speaker 22: in there at all. So I just posted it. Does

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Speaker 22: anyone ever see it? It's crazy if they're not used. Well,

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Speaker 22: I've been told to resign. My behavior is appalling. I've

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Speaker 22: been despicable, behaved in an entitled and privileged way. And

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Speaker 22: the echo chamber pylon was what you'd expect on something

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Speaker 22: like Facebook. So what I did was engage with everyone.

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Speaker 22: I don't do the post and ghost thing. So I

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Speaker 22: engaged and I repeated back what people were accusing me of.

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Speaker 22: So are you saying that elective members should not ask questions.

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Speaker 21: About et cetera?

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Speaker 18: Set?

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Speaker 8: Do you know?

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Speaker 21: I had people just not even bother responding.

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Speaker 22: So they have a poke, they have a go, and

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Speaker 22: then they just don't engage, and it's just cowardly.

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Speaker 2: Really, did you get an answer to your question? Did?

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Speaker 8: I mean?

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Speaker 2: It has anyone's right? So what is it?

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Speaker 21: And it was great? And it was great.

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Speaker 22: The answer was yes. So I had one person come

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Speaker 22: on and say no, I'd never seen anyone in them,

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Speaker 22: And then I had about half a dozen to eight

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Speaker 22: come on and say yes I use them, or yes,

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Speaker 22: my husband and I use them when we go to

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Speaker 22: the gardens. Another woman said yes, and we need more

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Speaker 22: at the hospital because I can never find one there.

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Speaker 22: And so it was actually a really good conversation on

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Speaker 22: my page until we got these bloody pearl necklace handbag clutching,

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Speaker 22: you know, outraged people just turning it into a political

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Speaker 22: storm that it didn't need to. So, yes, it was useful.

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Speaker 2: I think, Look, I'm with you, Nick. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you, but I'm with Ali. You should be able

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Speaker 2: to ask questions like that. You know, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: how controversial it might seem. You need to be able

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Speaker 2: to ask some basic questions about whether a city is

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Speaker 2: functioning well or not.

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Speaker 6: I'm completely with Elie the job of an elected representative.

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Speaker 6: We want to ask more questions in this country. There's

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Speaker 6: too much head nodding. Now. I don't know whether what

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Speaker 6: the answer to Ali's question is. It doesn't matter. The

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Speaker 6: principle is that you're elected to ask questions on half

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Speaker 6: of your community, and there's no You shouldn't assume any

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Speaker 6: agenda from a question. You should just take it at face.

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Speaker 6: Value and answer it. So Alie, congratulations. We need more

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Speaker 6: people like you in public office and all power to you.

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Speaker 21: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Eli, how's that? Does that made the word.

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Speaker 21: I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to run from there now.

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Speaker 21: Thanks Nate.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, all right, Ellie Jones, Red pre Nick leg

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Speaker 2: get Infrastructure New Zealand on the Huddle tonight. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: I've got an update on how many people in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand over the age of sixty five are still working,

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Speaker 2: and an update on the story that we spoke about yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the rabbit Os speaking of older workers, the rabbit Os

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Speaker 2: mascot who is eighty years old who legly punched a

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Speaker 2: child at one of their games. He's issued a statement,

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Speaker 2: so we'll update you on that one too.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on MYRD Radio powered by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB. It is five minutes away from six. So

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Speaker 2: the South Sydney mascot, this is the rabbit Oz the

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Speaker 2: NRAL team. The South Sydney mascot has apologized. He's eighty

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Speaker 2: one years old. His name's Charlie Galico. He's apologized for

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Speaker 2: pushing a child during an NRL match against the Cronella Sharks.

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Speaker 2: Reggie the Rabbit for those who know NRL, he's the

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Speaker 2: mascot Ready the Rabbit, So there's an eighty one year

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Speaker 2: old man inside the rabbit costume, and there was video

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Speaker 2: of him moving through the player's tunnel at the Shark

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Speaker 2: Stadium during the recent match pushing a child. Now he's

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Speaker 2: issued an apology and said I'd like to apologize to

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Speaker 2: young Benji and his parents. My actions were wrong. I

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Speaker 2: should never have pushed Benji or any child for that matter,

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Speaker 2: the way that I did on Saturday. I hope they

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Speaker 2: can forgive me and accept my apology. I love this club,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Anthony Albanezy got involved.

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Speaker 2: It was all hullabaloo, and he's apologized and I think

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Speaker 2: it all as well. I don't even think he has

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Speaker 2: to hang up his bunny costume. I think he's staying

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Speaker 2: on now. Meghan and we will talk about people over

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Speaker 2: the age of sixty five working totally unrelated. They're not

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Speaker 2: all violent after six o'clock. Meghan Markle speaking of people

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Speaker 2: who shouldn't be working because it's just infuriating. She's launched

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Speaker 2: a website today selling some design bits that she is

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Speaker 2: wearing in her latest TV show for Netflix. If you've

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Speaker 2: seen it, it's horrendous. One of the items a pair

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Speaker 2: of brown leather slip on sandals, retail for five hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety five pounds pounds. How relatable. And the website's

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Speaker 2: name I wrote it down. The website's name.

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Speaker 23: Is look come on right, our listeners all tea ply

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Speaker 23: wanting to go there and buy all this.

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Speaker 2: Stuff in the website if you're interested. She's told her

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Speaker 2: two point six million Instagram followers, so if you're one

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Speaker 2: of them, you'll know. But the name was something like

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Speaker 2: the Duchess of Sussex, you know, using that name, and

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Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, how techy, how techy to be

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Speaker 2: selling a six hundred pound pair of sandals using the

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Speaker 2: Royal mona.

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Speaker 23: If you're going to sell them for that much, Ryan,

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Speaker 23: you probably want them people to know that there are

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Speaker 23: duchesses sandals.

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Speaker 2: That's right, That is a good point. Otherwise, what's the point,

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Speaker 2: you know? Warehouse sandals three to six.

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Speaker 1: The keeping track of where the money is flowing. The

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Speaker 1: business hour with Ryan Bridge Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth,

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Speaker 1: Protect your future. News talks at be seven up.

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Speaker 2: Six on newstalks B brad Olsen coming very shortly on

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Speaker 2: the cherry export boom that we're experiencing. Jamie McKay joins

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Speaker 2: us in Endebrady in the UK, where the labor government

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Speaker 2: is reportedly apparently eyeing up cuts to the school lunch program.

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Speaker 2: Quite ironic right now. Data shows that kiwis continue to

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Speaker 2: work well past the age of retirement sixty five in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. This is stats in z Data out today

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Speaker 2: Reports says two hundred thousand senior citizens are still in

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Speaker 2: the workforce. More interestingly, twelve hundred people still working hard

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Speaker 2: today are in their nineties. Martin Hawes is a financial

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Speaker 2: advisor and author of Retirement Ready. He's with me tonight, Hi, Martin, Yeah, Hi,

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Speaker 2: they're Ryan. That's wonderful actually to hear twelve hundred ninety

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Speaker 2: plus year olds in the workforce.

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Speaker 24: Yes, yes, it is. I'm you know, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 24: They won't be working full time. They won't do six

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Speaker 24: hours a week or forty hours a week. You know,

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Speaker 24: a lot of them will probably be professionals who you know,

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Speaker 24: they toddle back into the office, you know, once a

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Speaker 24: week or so to have a look and act as

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Speaker 24: a consultants or something to the firm. Some of them

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Speaker 24: will be self employed, They'll be doing clerical work. That

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Speaker 24: could be the odd taxi driver, but not terribly many

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Speaker 24: of them. I wouldn't think, yeah, but I think it's wonderful. Actually,

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Speaker 24: the whole trend of people working after a time and

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Speaker 24: age is absolutely huge. The figure I really like to

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Speaker 24: look at is that in nineteen eighty seven, thirteen percent

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Speaker 24: of people aged sixty five to sixty nine were working.

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Speaker 24: In twenty twenty four, that figure had jumped from thirteen

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Speaker 24: percent to forty eight percent, So almost the majority of

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Speaker 24: sixty five to sixty nine year olds are working in

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Speaker 24: so called retirement.

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Speaker 2: Question is why. I mean, obviously there's health will have

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Speaker 2: improved and access to medical care, ETCeteras improved, but people

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Speaker 2: working because they have to, well, because they want to

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Speaker 2: keep contributing.

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Speaker 24: I think there's the four main reasons, and the first

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Speaker 24: one is, as you say, it's the money. A lot

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Speaker 24: of people need the money. It's probably the majority. I

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Speaker 24: think I have seen a figure on that at some stage,

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Speaker 24: but not a recent one. And you know, the extra

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Speaker 24: was a little bit of money for say, you know,

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Speaker 24: fifteen or twenty hours a week or something like that

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Speaker 24: makes a really big difference to the lifestyle of retirement.

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Speaker 24: Sometimes it's the only person who can do the job.

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Speaker 24: You know. So Madge has done the books for a

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Speaker 24: company for ages. She knows how it's done, and everybody

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Speaker 24: wants around saying, god, Madge doesn't look retire, and so

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Speaker 24: she feels pressure and she carries on doing it. Sometimes

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Speaker 24: it's owning a business like you know, farmers and and

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Speaker 24: lots of other small businesses. But also and I fit

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Speaker 24: into this category because I'm seventy two and I'm still working.

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Speaker 24: It's simply what they do.

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Speaker 18: You know.

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Speaker 24: I get up in the morning and I like to

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Speaker 24: look at what's going on the markets overseas. I like

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Speaker 24: to look at what the geopolitic, the geopolitical stuff has

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Speaker 24: been going down it. You know, it's a lot of

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Speaker 24: other stuff that I like to do, But I like

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Speaker 24: I've always liked my work.

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Speaker 2: And the routine of it as well. People often talk

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Speaker 2: about the routine of it. One of the interesting numbers

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Speaker 2: to come out of this is over sixty fives. There

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Speaker 2: are actually a lot of machinery operators ten percent of

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Speaker 2: those working over sixty five machinery operators. I don't imagine

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Speaker 2: this is hugely labor intensive stuff, although we're not really sure,

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Speaker 2: but do you think what do you think is behind that?

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Speaker 2: Is that because perhaps they're the only ones left to

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Speaker 24: I did runder that when I read it, and then

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Speaker 24: somebody else said that they may be managing the people

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Speaker 24: who are actually managing running the machines. So they may

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Speaker 24: not be hands on or you know, they may not

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Speaker 24: have an apron on to use the building term, but

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Speaker 24: they may be managing somebody else to do it and

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Speaker 24: help them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, Martin, keep up the good work at seventy two,

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Speaker 2: They're very small, but very valuable to our fruit production

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Speaker 2: export industry. I'm talking about cherries this evening. This season,

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Speaker 2: we exported five million kilos of cherries. That's up thirty

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Speaker 2: three percent on last year. Significant brad Olsen is the

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Speaker 2: inmplemtric's principal economisties with me to night break, good evening,

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Speaker 2: good evening. So cherries, cherries everywhere where are we sending them?

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Speaker 25: Well, the bulk of the cherries that we're exporting are

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Speaker 25: heading off to particular Asia. The likes of Taiwan was

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Speaker 25: the biggest market, but Asia in general was taking well

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Speaker 25: over ninety five percent of what we send out. That's

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Speaker 25: usual and sort of not too much of a shift there,

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Speaker 25: But what was interesting was where some of those other

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Speaker 25: smaller countries, but we're taking some bigger cherry exports this year.

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Speaker 25: In particular, the US are seeing quite a big increase

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Speaker 25: relatively speaking on what they normally take, but also the

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Speaker 25: Middle East normally taking just about no cherries, but this

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Speaker 25: year a bit of a bulk up in the likes

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Speaker 25: of the United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia, those sort

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Speaker 25: of areas, you know, do start to show that those

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Speaker 25: trade deals that we've got going throughout the rest of

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Speaker 25: the world are starting to work. There's a bit more

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Speaker 25: profile for New Zealand exports to get out and about what's.

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Speaker 2: Of money we're getting. Are we getting top dollar?

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Speaker 25: Well, I would have thought so at the moment. I

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Speaker 25: mean the fact that we were able to see cherry

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Speaker 25: volumes go up thirty three percent to over five million

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Speaker 25: kilograms and prices actually stayed at the high levels that

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Speaker 25: they had been for the first time. Over the twelve

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Speaker 25: months to February twenty twenty five, our cherry exports made

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Speaker 25: US one hundred and twenty four million, first time it's

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Speaker 25: made over one hundred mili. Now that doesn't sound like much,

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Speaker 25: but these are some pretty high value products that we're

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Speaker 25: able to send overseas. They're obviously quite seasonal, but it

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Speaker 25: shows that when we can bulk up our exports by

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Speaker 25: a third in a year and the price doesn't really change,

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Speaker 25: in fact, it slightly goes up, there's some healthy demand

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Speaker 25: for New Zealand fruit overseas.

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Speaker 2: Does this I mean when you start to see prices

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Speaker 2: high like this you see volumes starting to increase, you

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Speaker 2: see new markets opening up. Does that mean we will

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Speaker 2: see more production or are we at peak cherry production here?

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Speaker 2: What is the situation?

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Speaker 25: I don't necessarily think we're at peak production, but I mean,

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Speaker 25: of course it's a pretty big jump. You wouldn't be

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Speaker 25: expecting to see the same thing again next year. This year,

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Speaker 25: of course, seem to be better growing conditions a bit,

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Speaker 25: a bit later than usual, and of course there's always

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Speaker 25: those worries around frosts and hail and similar so we

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Speaker 25: can never sort of bank on it being great always

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Speaker 25: production wise. But I think given the fact that we've

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Speaker 25: got this continual focus on trying to grow exports, the

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Speaker 25: fact that at the moment the numbers are sitting in

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Speaker 25: a good position, there's clearly demand out there. Will continue

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Speaker 25: to try and supply not only the likes of cherries

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Speaker 25: and all of the other good stuff that we send

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Speaker 25: out Kiwi fruits, apples and the like, but also be

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Speaker 25: looking at where are there new opportunities to send different

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Speaker 25: types of fruit. There's clearly demand, so we should be

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Speaker 25: making sure that we're on the.

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Speaker 2: Table absolutely, Brad, thank you for that. Brad Olson. Inf

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Speaker 2: Metric Principal Economist on cherries of all things, doing quite well,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Eighteen minutes after six. So many

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Speaker 2: texts from people who are over the age of sixty

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Speaker 2: five and just loving work, loving life. Peter quite confident,

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Speaker 2: I actually feel of it. So for peace as friends, Peter,

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Speaker 2: go easy on them, he says. I'm seventy four next month.

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Speaker 2: I love working. I noticed that my peers who retired

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Speaker 2: some years ago are losing their intellect and are lacking

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Speaker 2: in sharp thinking and are slowly becoming far less interesting.

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Speaker 2: I love my mind being challenged, being asked to speak

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Speaker 2: at conferences, etcetera, etcetera. Peter, good for you, but just

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Speaker 2: you know, hang in there for your mates, all right,

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Speaker 2: don't ditch them dust yet. Nineteen after six Jamie McKay.

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Speaker 1: Next the Rural Report with MSD Animal Health Home of

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Speaker 1: Sense of Dairy at All Flags.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty one after six on Newstalks. Here b

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Speaker 2: Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country is with me tonight. Hi,

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Speaker 2: Jamie get a Ryan, how yeah, very well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now be ready to be nimble. That's the message to

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Speaker 2: the primary exporters from the International Trade Expert former Special

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Speaker 2: Trade Envoy Mike Peterson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, walks both farmers well. And Mike knows the

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Speaker 4: thing or two about trade, as you said, former New

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Speaker 4: Zealand Special Agricultural tradeing boy, former chair of Beef and

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Speaker 4: Lamb New Zealand, current chair of Scales, one of our

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Speaker 4: biggest horticulture companies, and he said, we're basically we're going

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Speaker 4: to have to tread warily between our two biggest markets

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Speaker 4: now the China or China and the US, and we

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Speaker 4: need to try and keep a foot in both camps. Interestingly,

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Speaker 4: in an interview I was reading from Mike, he said,

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Speaker 4: on the domestic front, while many farmers feel they have

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Speaker 4: a farmer friendly government and they certainly have ryan compared

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Speaker 4: to what those poor buggers in the UK are facing

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Speaker 4: under SECAA. Starmer, He's saying that the government has a

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Speaker 4: big picture agenda as well. But when it comes to

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Speaker 4: that big picture agenda, I meeting Paris Climate Climate accord agreements.

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Speaker 4: Not everyone in the government, it seems, agrees with that

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Speaker 4: big picture, especially the likes of Winston and even David

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Speaker 4: Seymour's the jury's how to weave it on that one.

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Speaker 4: So Mike Peterson saying farmers might like the government, but

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Speaker 4: they might like, might not like some of their actions

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Speaker 4: around climate change targets. But he's saying it's nothing that

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Speaker 4: science and innovation can't take care of. Many people would

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Speaker 4: argue maybe that's not the case. But anyhow, someone's and

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Speaker 4: upwards for the primary sector. And as I said after

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Speaker 4: speaking to my UK farm and correspondent today in the

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Speaker 4: UK Rhyme where they had another massive farmer protest, we've

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Speaker 4: got it good in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly with the government and regulation. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Jamie zespri is claiming a world first. What's this about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is quite a cool story. We came or

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Speaker 4: came across today or was it yesterday, the only fruit

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Speaker 4: company in the world that will shortly have all its

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Speaker 4: products sewn with home else sold should I say, with

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Speaker 4: home compostible labels? You know when you're eating your Kiwi

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Speaker 4: fruit gold and I've got those annoying plastic little labels

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Speaker 4: where they're going to be a thing of the past.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be all compostible, which will be great,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be on all fruit grown in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand or offshore. Remember that Zestbury's making a real

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Speaker 4: play for all year round supply by having growers in

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Speaker 4: the Northern hemisphere as well. A lot of these European

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Speaker 4: nations are demanding fully compostible fruit stickers, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's a really good thing. So there's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a challenge with these. There's three parts to them, the top,

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Speaker 4: the face, top, and the actual label itself. They've all

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Speaker 4: got to be compostible. They've got about a stick to

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Speaker 4: a hairy surface, especially when it comes to green kyw fruit.

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Speaker 4: The labels need to cope and cool stores and out

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Speaker 4: on the market floor where it might be a wee

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Speaker 4: bit warmer, and more importantly, obviously they need to break

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Speaker 4: down in the compost heap. So there we go. Well done, Zesprey.

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Speaker 4: They're world leaders and a lot of and I guess

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Speaker 4: they can add compostible stickers to that list.

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Speaker 2: This sounds good, Jamie, good on them. Thank you for that,

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Speaker 2: Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country. Here on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: There beats twenty five minutes after six and bred. Now

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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves. Who's she who holds the purse strings over

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Speaker 2: in the UK, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. She's going

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Speaker 2: to deliver her spring statement to the House of commons.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be Thursday our time, and usually you would

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Speaker 2: think boring her cares. But she's going to take the

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Speaker 2: knife to the public service because she has to, because

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Speaker 2: she's got to balance the books. Rumors are she might

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Speaker 2: even acts, and this is a labor politician, remember of

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Speaker 2: a labor government. She might even acts their free school

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Speaker 2: lunch program, the universality of that. So at the moment,

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Speaker 2: it's the school lunch is are means tested for anyone

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Speaker 2: who's at secondary school, but for basically the equivalent of

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Speaker 2: the first three years of primary school. Everyone gets free

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Speaker 2: universe all lunch on the taxpayer. And there's been some

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Speaker 2: reporting that that might change, and Rachel Reeves is sort

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Speaker 2: of putting out fires left, right and center. So we'll

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Speaker 2: have to wait and see what she says in his speech.

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Speaker 2: But it's just interesting looking at the British system. So

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Speaker 2: in the UK free but only if you receive, if

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Speaker 2: your family receives certain benefits, so as opposed to a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand where we say if one student at the

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Speaker 2: school gets it, the whole school gets it because otherwise,

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Speaker 2: you know, you stigmatize that student. That was the argument

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Speaker 2: that was made. Whereas in the UK. That's not how

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Speaker 2: it works in the UK. You only qualify if your

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Speaker 2: family gets certain benefits from the government and it's targeted

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Speaker 2: at those kids, regardless of who around them is eating it.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven after six News Talks ZB will be in

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Speaker 2: the UK before seven.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and there's insurance and investments,

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01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future. News talks it.

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Speaker 2: Be because I'm me, You.

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Speaker 8: Told me to get a job at you as love

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Speaker 8: and I'm supers I often.

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Speaker 6: I want to save me.

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Speaker 2: Think it is twenty five away from seven your own

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Speaker 2: news talks. It B would get to Rachel Reeves and

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Speaker 2: her speech to the House of Commons, which is coming

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Speaker 2: this week. What exactly will it entail? What will it

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: make for the British government, their labor government and their

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: cuts to the public service. We'll look at that just

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Speaker 2: before seven. We're over in the UK right now, though,

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Speaker 2: a new report into women working in the tech sector

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Speaker 2: has set off a few alarm bells. The advocacy group

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Speaker 2: Tech Beyond Gender surveyed two hundred female workers tech workers.

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01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 2: It found more than half have considered leaving their current

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: positions and over a third of thought about quitting the

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Speaker 2: sector altogether. Mina Setsh Kumar from Tech Beyond Gender is

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Speaker 2: with me to explain this finding. Mina, good evening to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with.

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Speaker 26: Me, Good evening, Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: So you've done these interviews, there's some quite some quite

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Speaker 2: radical claims being made here. Tell me how you've come

1531
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: to the conclusion. You know, half of the people you've

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Speaker 2: interviewed have considered quitting. Do you know? Whine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: Cool? So let me just correction here. This report we

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Speaker 26: surveyed women and gender divers professionals working in New Zealand

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Speaker 26: tech sector. I think it is gener frustration and a

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Speaker 26: feeling of hopelessness for these people working in tech sector

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Speaker 26: where more than forty persons have experienced gender based microaggressions

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Speaker 26: in their workplaces, and more than seventy seventy percentage have

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Speaker 26: reported no training or to create awareness regarding microaggressions have

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Speaker 26: been provided in their workplaces. And besides that, more than

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Speaker 26: seventy percentage of them are dissatisfied with paid transparency and

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Speaker 26: more than half of them feel that they're not being

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Speaker 26: paid fair, with disparities particularly affecting technical and migrant professionals.

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Speaker 2: What do you consider a microaggression? Forty percent say that

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Speaker 2: they've had gender based microaggressions committed against them. What is that?

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Speaker 20: So?

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Speaker 26: Microaggressions are subtle, often unintentional comments or behaviors or actions

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Speaker 26: that communicate bias or stereotype towards a person or a group.

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Speaker 26: So this is particularly targeted towards marginalized or minority background.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, sorry just one. You said that it's

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Speaker 2: unintentional aggressions and yet it's targeted. How can it be both?

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Speaker 26: Well, because this is because of the stereotypes that are

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Speaker 26: so ingrained in our society. There are certain systemic issues

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Speaker 26: that we have really not addressed. So it's easy to

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Speaker 26: just assume in a meeting that a woman would probably

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Speaker 26: be there to take notes or be a people manager,

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Speaker 26: and not see a woman as a front end developer

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Speaker 26: or a solution architect or a technical lead. So that's

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Speaker 26: what I meant, because it is very unintentional because we

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Speaker 26: are so ingrained in those stereotypes.

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Speaker 2: Right, But what can you give us an example of

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Speaker 2: what a microaggression is?

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Speaker 26: So being interrupted in meetings or having ideas appropriated, or

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Speaker 26: facing some dismissive comments, or like just having some remarks

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Speaker 26: such as, oh, you're surprisingly technical, or even saying, uh,

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Speaker 26: well you're too aggressive if being assertive as a woman's right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But these things will happen to men too, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know if so if if somebody, if a manager

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Speaker 2: interrupts a man, is that a microaggression?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 26: Possibly, I'm not saying that men do not have any

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Speaker 26: issues as such. Probably they do face issues.

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Speaker 2: But then isn't it Isn't that the point though, that

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Speaker 2: that if you know are there are good managers and

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Speaker 2: there are bad managers. It doesn't necessarily mean just because

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Speaker 2: somebody interrupts you that they are sexist or that they're

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Speaker 2: doing it because you're you're a woman.

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Speaker 26: But certain systemic barriers make all of these behaviors very

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Speaker 26: pronounced for women and gender divers professionals. So because of

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Speaker 26: the stereotypes that are so ingrained in US, we just

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Speaker 26: assume certain things and just talk about it without really

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Speaker 26: thinking about it. So, for instance, if I'm in a

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Speaker 26: meeting and if I'm actually providing a technical input this

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Speaker 26: way along with few other men in my team, that

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Speaker 26: message that I would convey will hold value if it

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Speaker 26: comes if it is backed by another man.

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Speaker 2: Okay MANA, thank you very much for explaining this to us.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. MENA statisticoma from the Tech Beyond Gender,

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Speaker 2: which is an advocacy group for women in tech. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you say. I just think the whole, the

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Speaker 2: whole I've read, I've read the release from this group.

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Speaker 2: I just think it sounds like absolute. But yes, half

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Speaker 2: have considered quitting. Go and ask any worker anywhere, and

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Speaker 2: half of them will tell you they have considered quitting

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Speaker 2: their job. It doesn't matter what gender they are, who

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Speaker 2: their bosses. Half don't believe they're being paid very well.

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Speaker 2: Go and ask any worker, doesn't matter what gender they are,

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Speaker 2: and they'll tell you that they're not being paid very well.

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Speaker 2: Go and ask how many have had microaggressions and then

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Speaker 2: define it as loosely as that, and half will have

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Speaker 2: said that they've had microaggressions. Nineteen to seven.

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Speaker 1: Croaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: with the business hour and mass insurance and investments. Grew

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Speaker 1: your wealth, protect your future. The news dogs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be six thing away from seven on news Talk ZB.

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01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of your texts. On micro aggressions

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Speaker 2: and the like in just a few moments. Would you

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Speaker 2: never thought you'd say on radio? But here we are

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Speaker 2: in the Brady is our UK correspondent. He's with us

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Speaker 2: right now in the good evening to.

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Speaker 20: You, hey, Ryan, lovely to speak to you again.

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01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Now. The boss of Heathrow is going to face a

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Speaker 2: parliament next week over the fire FIESCO. What are we expecting?

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Speaker 20: Well, I think they're going to turn their verbal fire

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01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 20: on him because people are very angry about what happened

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Speaker 20: on Friday. Now. Thomas Woldby is the Chief Executive Heathrow Airport.

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Speaker 20: He's quick to point out that it is not the

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Speaker 20: airport's fault that there was a fire at an electricity

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Speaker 20: substation on Thursday night, but a lot has emerged since.

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Speaker 20: So he took the decision that his deputy would work

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Speaker 20: through the night and that he, the CEO, would go

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Speaker 20: home sleep and then wake up refreshed for the task

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01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 20: on Friday of making the decisions that would all get

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Speaker 20: the airport open again to the traveling public on Saturday.

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Speaker 20: A lot of people are saying, why didn't you just

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Speaker 20: work on How could you sleep? The Transport Minister here,

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Speaker 20: Hidi Alexander. She's even come out on radio and said,

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Speaker 20: I wouldn't be able to sleep if that had happened

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Speaker 20: in my job and I was dealing with the closure

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Speaker 20: of the biggest airport in Europe and the busiest I

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01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 20: would not be able to sleep. So I think he

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Speaker 20: can expect a few verbal bullets next week. He's under pressure,

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Speaker 20: but it has just shown up the chronic problems we

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Speaker 20: have deep in our infrastructure in the UK. That a

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Speaker 20: fire at a substation a few miles away knocks out

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Speaker 20: an airport with three hundred thousand passengers going through it.

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Speaker 2: Goodness may well, we'll look forward to that little inquiry.

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01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 2: Kese Thamas is he wants to fix every pothole in Britain.

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Speaker 20: Yes, and I think it was John Lennon who sang

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01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 20: that there were four thousand potholes in Blackburn, Lancashire. That

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01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 20: was in the sixties. Well, I think he'd be under

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01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 20: a state making the task at hand now, because in

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01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 20: all honesty, I run a lot, as you know, Ryan,

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01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 20: I now run cross country mostly because the danger of

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01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 20: twisting an ankle or worse, because of the pothole situation here.

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01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 20: It is so bad now. Kre Starmer has given a

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01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 20: radio interview. He actually said, at this moment in time,

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01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 20: as I'm speaking, someone will be driving over a pothole.

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01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 20: He used the figure seven hundred million, not dollars in

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01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 20: terms of fixing the problems. Seven hundred million potholes is

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01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 20: what the Prime Minister believes there are to be fixed

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01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 20: in the UK. So he was challenged on how he's

1654
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 20: going to do this, and he used the phrase AI

1655
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 20: and tech eight times and the presenter said, well, just

1656
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 20: explain how that works, and he goes, look very simple.

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01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 20: He said, each time the Council fills in a pothole,

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01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 20: they'll go online, they'll update it, they'll get some more

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01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 20: money and it can go fill another one. So that's

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01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 20: where we are right now, seven hundred million potholes in

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Speaker 20: the UK, according to Kure Starmer.

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Speaker 2: Goodness man, I don't how much AI's got to do

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01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: with fixing it, but that's interesting, right putting it.

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Speaker 20: Men with shovels and gravel, Ryan, that's what exactly not AI.

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01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, very quickly, Rachel rees. She is going to

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01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: address Parliament this week, the House of Commons. Do we

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01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 2: know whether they're going to cut the universal school lunches?

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01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: Have you heard anything about that or is that all

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01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: just scuttle back rumor.

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01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 20: I think everything's being cut. I think Britain is heading

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 20: back to austerity. There is no money. Not only is

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01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 20: she getting rid of the school lunches for really kind

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01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 20: of disadvantaged, vulnerable kids. Fifty thousand civil servants are going

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01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 20: to lose their jobs. I think Britain is heading back

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01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 20: into a decade of austerity. There is no money left here,

1676
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 20: there is no growth and we are where we are finally.

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor wants to run for president of Ireland.

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01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, watch this one, it's going to be interesting. He's

1679
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 20: making a lot of noise online for anyone who doesn't

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01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 20: know who Connor McGregor is. He is an extremely wealthy

1681
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 20: and successful cage fighter from that UFC brand in America.

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Speaker 20: He is Irish. He's Dublin through and through. He has

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Speaker 20: a really bad reputation amongst a lot of people in Ireland.

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01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 20: There was a civil case brought against him in court

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Speaker 20: last year for sexual assault by a woman, which he lost.

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01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 20: There was a previous conviction for punching an elderly man

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Speaker 20: in a pub. Yeah, he's been speaking out about immigration

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Speaker 20: and a lot of illegal immigrants coming into Ireland. He

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Speaker 20: is getting some support on the far right of the

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Speaker 20: political spectrum in Ireland. But the problem he has in

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Speaker 20: terms of becoming president you need twenty elected representatives to

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01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 20: come out and say they back you. He's not going

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01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 20: to get twenty. In fact, I would go so far

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Speaker 20: as to say if I ran against him, I from

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Speaker 20: County Wexford as a journalist, I would get twenty people

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Speaker 20: to back me and he would get zero. And I'm

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Speaker 20: not being big headed here, I'm just stating facts.

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Speaker 2: Right, Thig So much for that. In the Radio UK

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Speaker 2: Correspondent for those who needed help with this, including kir Starmer,

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Speaker 2: one of our lovely listeners said, it's very simple, Ryan Ai.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to Pothole's eagles, Ash felt intelligence, So

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Speaker 2: that'll just sort the whole thing out. Eleven minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 2: that is on a farm, what you would refer to it.

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Speaker 2: As we were just talking about AI a moment ago

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Speaker 2: with in the Brady out of the UK. We were

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Speaker 2: also discussing just before we get I'll play you some

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Speaker 2: audio very quickly, very shortly, rather from Andrew Bailey who

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Speaker 2: was talking in Parliament today. He's back from his big adventure.

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Speaker 2: But we were talking earlier about women in the tech

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Speaker 2: sector and this report that came out today saying that

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Speaker 2: you know, women are so unhappy in the tech sector

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Speaker 2: and there's a survey that shows that half are thinking

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Speaker 2: about leaving their jobs, and they were linking this to

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Speaker 2: the treatment of women in the tech sector. All that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff and microaggressions came up. Well, we've had

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Speaker 2: quite a bit of feedback about this. Ryan, you're a dinosaur.

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Speaker 2: Your mind was made up before the micro aggression. Woman

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Speaker 2: began speaking. If you think women are treated equally in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's workplace, you are willfully ignorant. They're different things,

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Speaker 2: aren't they Do I think women are treated equally in

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Speaker 2: the workplace. Well, look, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 2: because I'm not a woman. But if I look at

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Speaker 2: all the workplaces I've worked in, and I've been serious here,

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Speaker 2: probably eighty percent of my bosses have been women. Most

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Speaker 2: of my college have been women. Women are over represented

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Speaker 2: in my industry more more often than not, the person

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Speaker 2: sitting next to me is a woman, and I've never

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Speaker 2: seen them treated differently or worse than anyone else. We're

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Speaker 2: all treated equally. Shite, you know, so so personally, have

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Speaker 2: I seen it?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean it doesn't exist?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Do I think the microaggression thing is a bit of BS. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think it's BS. I think I think if you

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01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: want to feel something, if you want to, you know,

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01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 2: have a problem, you will have a problem. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I see surveys like this and I just.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean, look at the egalitarian set up on

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Speaker 23: our show, Ryan, Right, there's two of us here who

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Speaker 23: are men and one who's a woman. You've got a

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Speaker 23: mic in front of you. You can talk into that.

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01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 23: I've got one in front of me. I can talk

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01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 23: into that. And Laura's got one that she Oh, oh no,

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01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 23: Laura doesn't have a Mic.

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Speaker 2: It's the thing though, here's the thing about Laura. I've

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01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: tried to talk to Laura on here and she refuses

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01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: typical female fashion and then she'll go. Then she'll go

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Speaker 2: fill in a form, she'll do a survey and it'll

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01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 2: be my fault. Hey, Andrew Bailey, Andrew Bailey speaking, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: the world isn't fair because Andrew Bailey has got a

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Speaker 2: job nationally and p. Andrew Bailey was back in Parliament today.

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Speaker 2: He's just back from Mount Everest, where he fled after

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Speaker 2: resigning from his portfolios, but he wasn't keen to talk

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Speaker 2: about the trip. How was your trip to Mount Everett?

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Speaker 2: Well it was a good trip.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, quite difficult, but so.

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Speaker 6: Did you when you went to base camp?

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Speaker 9: How how did you go?

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Speaker 1: I went to base camp?

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Speaker 4: Did you feel it was a weave and appropriate to

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Speaker 4: take a long break after you know what had happened.

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Speaker 19: I made a decision to resign.

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Speaker 10: That wasn't an easy decision but took its emotional total

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Speaker 10: and I wanted some time out.

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Speaker 2: He was then pressed on whether he still wants to

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Speaker 2: be in Parliament at all.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think all the mp for poorbot ketto represented

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Speaker 12: the people there for eleven years.

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Speaker 20: Are you committing to your run again?

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Speaker 25: That's set I locked cash, I've just come back. I'm

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Speaker 25: glad to be here right now.

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Speaker 2: Bailey resigned last month after complaints had been overbearing and

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Speaker 2: put his hand on the arm of a staffer, a

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Speaker 2: male staff shoul Dad, but he says there was no

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Speaker 2: malice in that.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to get into the details of all

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Speaker 10: that other than the fact is that that's what occurred.

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Speaker 20: Was there in terms of when you put it in

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Speaker 20: put your.

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Speaker 2: Hand on their upper arm, was it like a grab

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01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 2: or did you take them or what was the nature

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01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 2: of that? It was just putting my hand on it

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Speaker 2: on his upper arm.

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Speaker 12: I didn't It wasn't done with any malice, Thomas.

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Speaker 1: It is what it.

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01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Is well, and it was what it was. I think

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Speaker 2: that's probably the end of Andrew Bailey, not in terms

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01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 2: of career, but just in terms of that story. You

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01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: know it's over, isn't it. He's been to Everest and back,

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Speaker 2: He's done his penance. It's four minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: You're on news Talks, Laura. You want to say anything

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Speaker 2: before we go? No, of course, not typical. Thanks as

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Speaker 2: what are we going out? To tonight swhere.

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Speaker 23: I picked this before we started talking about gen direquity,

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01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 23: but we're going to quickly talk about a female pioneer

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01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 23: of rock and roll. Sister Rosetta Tharp was an inspiration

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01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 23: to people like Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard and

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01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 23: they are Amazon, sorry, Amazon MGM, are going to make

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Speaker 23: a movie about her, starring Lizzo. Lizzo is going to

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Speaker 23: be picking up an electric guitar and playing sister Rosetta Tharp.

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Speaker 23: So we're gonna go out with good as hell.

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Speaker 2: By Lizzo, brilliant. Have a great evening everybody, especially to

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Speaker 2: our women listening. Nothing aggressive about this tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And check maby, how.

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Speaker 6: Mabby?

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Speaker 3: How are you fellow?

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