1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,533 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b Right. 3 00:00:13,573 --> 00:00:15,413 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for your text, Colin says Jack, You're 4 00:00:15,413 --> 00:00:19,013 Speaker 2: so right, Jack, regarding your comments on COVID, As far 5 00:00:19,013 --> 00:00:21,893 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, the media did an awful job. Look, 6 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:25,173 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone did a perfect job, any any 7 00:00:25,613 --> 00:00:27,573 Speaker 2: kind of institution. I think the media is kind of 8 00:00:27,573 --> 00:00:31,733 Speaker 2: a broad descriptor for us, but any institution did a 9 00:00:31,733 --> 00:00:35,493 Speaker 2: perfect job. I think the media largely did a good job, 10 00:00:35,533 --> 00:00:37,053 Speaker 2: but I think there are lessons for us as well. 11 00:00:37,093 --> 00:00:39,333 Speaker 2: And that's why I say I think I think for 12 00:00:39,453 --> 00:00:42,813 Speaker 2: next time, we just it's very difficult. But trying to 13 00:00:42,813 --> 00:00:48,973 Speaker 2: find a respectful, appropriate platform for descending views to be 14 00:00:49,533 --> 00:00:51,693 Speaker 2: heard and to be aired, I think is vital. And 15 00:00:51,693 --> 00:00:53,573 Speaker 2: I think the media plays a really important role in that. 16 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:55,653 Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us 17 00:00:55,693 --> 00:00:58,213 Speaker 2: a message this morning, it's eighteen minutes past nine. Hayden 18 00:00:58,293 --> 00:01:02,013 Speaker 2: Jones is pitch side this morning. He is coaching his 19 00:01:02,093 --> 00:01:05,893 Speaker 2: son's football team. Just paying us a picture, hater, Well, 20 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:06,133 Speaker 2: it's a. 21 00:01:06,613 --> 00:01:10,573 Speaker 3: Tough game from Boys High under fifteen Derby. It's black 22 00:01:10,733 --> 00:01:15,213 Speaker 3: versus white. Okay, it's orange yep, yes, are supporting black 23 00:01:15,293 --> 00:01:19,373 Speaker 3: or oral. We're black. We're coaching black at Okay, right, yeah, 24 00:01:19,893 --> 00:01:22,093 Speaker 3: so we've had a good season. I think in regards 25 00:01:22,093 --> 00:01:24,053 Speaker 3: to that last tixture, it's not the media's fault. It's 26 00:01:24,053 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 3: just your hot jets. 27 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:29,173 Speaker 2: Everything's my fault. 28 00:01:29,653 --> 00:01:31,333 Speaker 3: How have you been as I live in it's been 29 00:01:31,373 --> 00:01:31,773 Speaker 3: a few. 30 00:01:31,653 --> 00:01:34,653 Speaker 2: Years and it has it's great to it's great to 31 00:01:34,693 --> 00:01:37,333 Speaker 2: hear your voice. It's been far too long. Heavn Meliner 32 00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:41,253 Speaker 2: is taking a well earned break and thankfully, well yeah, 33 00:01:41,293 --> 00:01:43,733 Speaker 2: and thankfully when you're just the man to call, although 34 00:01:44,053 --> 00:01:47,493 Speaker 2: obviously you are pretty busy on Saturday mornings because you 35 00:01:47,493 --> 00:01:51,093 Speaker 2: you're a coach, right, yes, yeah, right, okay. 36 00:01:51,133 --> 00:01:54,853 Speaker 3: Just about to make a sub. Oh okay, hold on 37 00:01:55,693 --> 00:01:56,333 Speaker 3: good day. 38 00:01:56,173 --> 00:02:00,853 Speaker 2: Good day, Yeah, very good. No, that's right. So something's 39 00:02:00,853 --> 00:02:04,373 Speaker 2: taken your your You piqued your interest this week and 40 00:02:04,413 --> 00:02:07,013 Speaker 2: picked your concern rather, I mean when you were there 41 00:02:07,213 --> 00:02:09,733 Speaker 2: giving up your time supporting your son's team. But it 42 00:02:09,733 --> 00:02:13,413 Speaker 2: turns out a whole lot fewer Kiwis are supporting their 43 00:02:13,453 --> 00:02:15,613 Speaker 2: local sports clubs and just a couple of years ago. 44 00:02:16,493 --> 00:02:20,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, I find that amazing and like baffling and troubling 45 00:02:20,213 --> 00:02:23,813 Speaker 3: kid sports clubs, fishing, small communities that you know, they're 46 00:02:23,653 --> 00:02:26,013 Speaker 3: the fabric of our community. They keep us all together 47 00:02:26,053 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 3: and they're the hub. So and a lot of them 48 00:02:28,293 --> 00:02:30,093 Speaker 3: as you see these days you go from club to club. 49 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:32,933 Speaker 3: They are you know, run and managed by the one 50 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:36,493 Speaker 3: or two hard working, passionate people. And I don't know, 51 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:38,413 Speaker 3: people say that busy. Don't know. They say, oh, I'm busy, 52 00:02:38,413 --> 00:02:40,093 Speaker 3: I've got work life once this sort of thing. But 53 00:02:40,133 --> 00:02:42,373 Speaker 3: if we just took maybe you know, twenty percent less 54 00:02:42,373 --> 00:02:45,093 Speaker 3: time scrolling Instagram, we would have that time in our 55 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:48,813 Speaker 3: lives to donate. And it is it's not even giving 56 00:02:48,813 --> 00:02:52,213 Speaker 3: your time because it's so much fun. Especially I don't know. 57 00:02:52,213 --> 00:02:55,413 Speaker 3: I guess my passion moment is coaching kids' sport. Like 58 00:02:55,533 --> 00:02:57,893 Speaker 3: as a parent, you've got to get your kids to 59 00:02:57,893 --> 00:02:59,413 Speaker 3: this game anyway. I've got to be quiet. For got 60 00:02:59,413 --> 00:03:02,133 Speaker 3: a lot of parents beside me on the sideline, But 61 00:03:03,093 --> 00:03:04,493 Speaker 3: you've got to take you kid to the game anyway. 62 00:03:04,533 --> 00:03:05,813 Speaker 3: You got to get their boots. I like, you've gone 63 00:03:05,933 --> 00:03:08,853 Speaker 3: ninety I've seen the way you're on the sideline. You've 64 00:03:08,893 --> 00:03:10,733 Speaker 3: just got to do the extra five, just walk two 65 00:03:10,773 --> 00:03:14,453 Speaker 3: meters forward and then just yell occasionally it's not hurting cad. Yeah, 66 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:16,333 Speaker 3: you don't need to know anything about the game you're 67 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:19,013 Speaker 3: coaching at the middle age. You just got to get 68 00:03:19,053 --> 00:03:20,613 Speaker 3: them there and make it fun. Give them some inches 69 00:03:20,653 --> 00:03:24,093 Speaker 3: at halftime. Yeah, and whatever you don't know, YouTube will provide. 70 00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:27,053 Speaker 2: I think that's such a good message. So they reckon that. 71 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:29,613 Speaker 2: Compared to five years ago, clubs in New Zealand have 72 00:03:29,733 --> 00:03:32,973 Speaker 2: less than half the number of volunteers they had, which 73 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:36,493 Speaker 2: is crazy. I suppose that COVID probably has played some 74 00:03:36,973 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 2: role in that. But like you say, you know, for 75 00:03:39,013 --> 00:03:42,693 Speaker 2: parents who are going to support their kids at the weekend, 76 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:45,253 Speaker 2: you're there. Anyway, You've made that, You've made the effort. 77 00:03:45,253 --> 00:03:47,373 Speaker 2: You just have to go that one step further. But 78 00:03:47,373 --> 00:03:49,013 Speaker 2: but how do you find it hater? Because I know that, 79 00:03:50,173 --> 00:03:52,693 Speaker 2: having having been on a football per a few times 80 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:55,293 Speaker 2: over the go no, no, this is that. That answers 81 00:03:55,293 --> 00:03:57,813 Speaker 2: my question. I was going to say, how like describe 82 00:03:57,813 --> 00:03:59,653 Speaker 2: your coaching style to us, How are you as a 83 00:03:59,693 --> 00:04:00,493 Speaker 2: sideline parent? 84 00:04:01,253 --> 00:04:04,013 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, have you seen kid less? I'm a bit 85 00:04:04,013 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 3: of a tid less A huge give. I think it 86 00:04:08,293 --> 00:04:10,973 Speaker 3: depends on the age, but I've got the moment coaching 87 00:04:11,173 --> 00:04:14,373 Speaker 3: fourteen and fifteen year old boys. So I do I 88 00:04:14,453 --> 00:04:16,093 Speaker 3: do give them the old hair dryer now and again 89 00:04:16,453 --> 00:04:18,533 Speaker 3: right here drawer a football term for you know, give 90 00:04:18,533 --> 00:04:20,093 Speaker 3: them a bit of a rack up. Yeah, while we 91 00:04:20,133 --> 00:04:21,813 Speaker 3: showed up this morning and we've got to get the 92 00:04:21,893 --> 00:04:23,533 Speaker 3: nets out and put them up. And there's like, you know, 93 00:04:23,733 --> 00:04:25,733 Speaker 3: fifteen boys sitting there and not doing anything for ten 94 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:27,773 Speaker 3: minutes while the two boys put the nets up, and 95 00:04:27,813 --> 00:04:29,973 Speaker 3: so you know, you've just got to generally remind them 96 00:04:29,973 --> 00:04:31,853 Speaker 3: that the game doesn't start until the nets run. So 97 00:04:32,013 --> 00:04:34,773 Speaker 3: you know, we've all got to work together. Yeah, but 98 00:04:34,893 --> 00:04:40,253 Speaker 3: I think I think for pearings, coaching kids is actually, 99 00:04:40,293 --> 00:04:42,733 Speaker 3: as we secret, it's actually a great way to figure 100 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:45,133 Speaker 3: out who your son or daughter is hanging out with 101 00:04:45,453 --> 00:04:47,053 Speaker 3: because you get to spend a whole lot of time. 102 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:48,373 Speaker 3: Because they will go to school and you don't see 103 00:04:48,373 --> 00:04:50,053 Speaker 3: them much, you know, see them lunchtime. You don't really 104 00:04:50,053 --> 00:04:52,013 Speaker 3: know what's going on at school. But by coaching a team, 105 00:04:52,053 --> 00:04:53,693 Speaker 3: you get to know all the personalities of all their 106 00:04:53,733 --> 00:04:55,973 Speaker 3: buddies and you kind of figure out who's coming home 107 00:04:56,013 --> 00:04:56,973 Speaker 3: for playdates and who's not. 108 00:04:57,373 --> 00:05:00,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. Actually, Yeah, you can 109 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:03,853 Speaker 2: because you sort of see you learn a lot about 110 00:05:03,973 --> 00:05:07,613 Speaker 2: character on a sports ar a lot about character, and 111 00:05:07,693 --> 00:05:09,173 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you can go, you know what, 112 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:11,453 Speaker 2: I want my kid hanging out a little bit more 113 00:05:11,493 --> 00:05:13,053 Speaker 2: with this one and maybe a little bit less with 114 00:05:13,053 --> 00:05:18,373 Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, I'm sure that everyone and team blake 115 00:05:18,413 --> 00:05:21,533 Speaker 2: for New Plymouth Boys highs and credit of the absolute 116 00:05:21,613 --> 00:05:25,053 Speaker 2: highest character standards possible. But you know what I mean, Ah. 117 00:05:24,813 --> 00:05:26,733 Speaker 3: They're great. They're great characters. Then you really get to 118 00:05:26,773 --> 00:05:28,053 Speaker 3: know and you give them lots of grief and they 119 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:29,853 Speaker 3: give it back. Spisi dowt it because I've got more robust. 120 00:05:29,893 --> 00:05:33,013 Speaker 3: I've also been managing slash coaching. My daughter's the second 121 00:05:33,093 --> 00:05:34,933 Speaker 3: or even at Sacred Heart Girls College, and that's like 122 00:05:35,013 --> 00:05:37,253 Speaker 3: sixteen and seventeen year old girls. I don't have the 123 00:05:37,253 --> 00:05:40,693 Speaker 3: instruction menu for that. But I've found they also love 124 00:05:40,853 --> 00:05:42,373 Speaker 3: a bit of joshing. If you pick up a hockey 125 00:05:42,373 --> 00:05:44,013 Speaker 3: stick sometimes and give them a little tap in the 126 00:05:44,013 --> 00:05:45,533 Speaker 3: back of the league. You know, I just have fun 127 00:05:45,573 --> 00:05:47,813 Speaker 3: with them. They're really into it and they just they 128 00:05:47,893 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 3: just love to play. It's the same sort of thing. 129 00:05:50,173 --> 00:05:52,213 Speaker 3: They just want to get started, to get going, chase 130 00:05:52,213 --> 00:05:54,853 Speaker 3: a ball and have fun. You know, there is that 131 00:05:55,293 --> 00:05:56,933 Speaker 3: like the forty year old boys I've got now, I 132 00:05:56,933 --> 00:05:58,653 Speaker 3: think three quarters of them think they're going to make 133 00:05:58,693 --> 00:06:01,653 Speaker 3: you a white or at least the English Premier League. Yeah, 134 00:06:01,693 --> 00:06:03,733 Speaker 3: so that's great, but I think by sixteen and seventeen 135 00:06:03,733 --> 00:06:08,533 Speaker 3: they're realistic and they really love Thomas their friends. It's 136 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:09,973 Speaker 3: a good day out. You go down the straight for 137 00:06:10,053 --> 00:06:13,093 Speaker 3: yourself of the metaist theory for some hot chips. I've 138 00:06:13,093 --> 00:06:15,573 Speaker 3: got a large array of heat heat lamps with deep 139 00:06:15,573 --> 00:06:18,773 Speaker 3: fried assortments, so you know, it's a great day out. 140 00:06:18,893 --> 00:06:21,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like so much fun. So half far 141 00:06:21,173 --> 00:06:23,493 Speaker 2: through with the game? Half far through the game are we. 142 00:06:24,413 --> 00:06:26,413 Speaker 3: We're coming up to half time? Hold on, Tommy, Tommy, 143 00:06:26,453 --> 00:06:30,533 Speaker 3: get on the next break. So I just got to 144 00:06:30,333 --> 00:06:34,613 Speaker 3: go and make a sup it rolling the deal. Yeah, Kobe, 145 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:38,453 Speaker 3: Kobe and Central mid very good. Hold on, Yeah, I 146 00:06:38,493 --> 00:06:38,813 Speaker 3: can't do it. 147 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:41,293 Speaker 2: You go and do that. You deal with Kobe. You 148 00:06:41,373 --> 00:06:44,133 Speaker 2: go and deal with Kobe, and and and Tommy will 149 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:45,653 Speaker 2: be wishing you the best. Make sure you see me 150 00:06:45,693 --> 00:06:47,693 Speaker 2: a text to let us know how the second half goes. 151 00:06:47,693 --> 00:06:49,053 Speaker 2: We'll be backing Black all the way. 152 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:52,013 Speaker 3: Well, I assume the sports depart will be bringing me. 153 00:06:53,773 --> 00:06:56,493 Speaker 2: Score up yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that ten 154 00:06:56,533 --> 00:06:58,853 Speaker 2: o'clock will have we we'll leave with you and the 155 00:06:58,853 --> 00:07:01,773 Speaker 2: Warriors and they're incredible. When last night Kenn and second 156 00:07:01,813 --> 00:07:06,373 Speaker 2: a close second. Yeah, all right, good enjoy the game. 157 00:07:06,533 --> 00:07:09,093 Speaker 2: We'll catch you again very soon. Hayden Joan's sideline for 158 00:07:09,173 --> 00:07:10,893 Speaker 2: us this morning on News Talks. He'd be thank you 159 00:07:10,933 --> 00:07:14,413 Speaker 2: so much for your textas morning, Jack. As far as 160 00:07:14,453 --> 00:07:17,453 Speaker 2: I'm concerned, the previous government, we're happy to preach at 161 00:07:17,533 --> 00:07:21,373 Speaker 2: us every day from the podium of truth. Interesting that 162 00:07:21,413 --> 00:07:24,373 Speaker 2: they're not willing to have the same level of scrutiny now, 163 00:07:24,493 --> 00:07:29,653 Speaker 2: I mean, I just yeah, I think in principle, decision 164 00:07:29,693 --> 00:07:32,453 Speaker 2: makers should be willing to appear before the public, especially 165 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:35,733 Speaker 2: for you know, for big things like this. I would 166 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:39,653 Speaker 2: feel much more strongly if they were refusing to appear 167 00:07:40,773 --> 00:07:44,413 Speaker 2: before in public for a COVID inquiry whose terms of 168 00:07:44,453 --> 00:07:48,493 Speaker 2: reference began at the start of the pandemic rather than 169 00:07:49,533 --> 00:07:52,013 Speaker 2: a year and a half into the pandemic, or you know, 170 00:07:52,733 --> 00:07:57,453 Speaker 2: conveniently after an election that excluded the period of which 171 00:07:57,453 --> 00:08:01,013 Speaker 2: the COVID response was also being led by another political party. 172 00:08:01,693 --> 00:08:04,773 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 173 00:08:04,893 --> 00:08:08,053 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd be from am Saturday, or follow 174 00:08:08,093 --> 00:08:09,653 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio