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Speaker 2: How are you great, New Zealanders and welcome to met

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Speaker 2: tyl Full Show Podcast number one six one was great

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Speaker 2: show for Tuesday, the fifteenth of July twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: and went to interesting parts nudity, real estate, bogans, boggies, hoons,

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Speaker 2: boy races, add it all. So many great calls today.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy the show.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk SAIB, Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday's show.

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Speaker 3: Awesome to have your company as always. Hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: We're if you're listening in this beautiful country of ours.

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Speaker 2: Kadoy mat and get a Tyler gideone Mia Koppers. There's

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Speaker 2: a big part of our show. It is, in fact,

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Speaker 2: it's nine percent of our show apologizing for what we've done.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday really fired people up with your mispronunciation of

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Speaker 2: the people of Manchester. You Tyler and your ignorance referred

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Speaker 2: to them as Manchurians. Ye, the Mancunians. People from Manchester

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Speaker 2: are Mancunians. Write it down, man Cunians, Mancunian, man Cunian,

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Speaker 2: not Manchurian. I mean that's a great movie, but the

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Speaker 2: Manchurian candidate. You know, so, I'd like you to apologize

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Speaker 2: to those that great northern city and Liam and Noel Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: I'm not apologizing to those two, the Stone Roses, the Smiths.

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Speaker 2: You need to apologize.

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Speaker 3: Power in the in the newsroom. Sorry, Alex. I know

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Speaker 3: you're a man Cunian.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a question for you. I'm originally from

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Speaker 2: Duneedian Somemmer, Dunedin Knight. Yep, there's auckland Is, there's Hamiltonians.

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Speaker 2: What's someone from christ Jurch you're from christ Church Cantabrian

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Speaker 2: but that's that's from the that's from the province. But

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Speaker 2: from the city. It's just Carian. Yeah, christ Churchian?

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Speaker 3: No, not christ Churchian? What Christ christ Church?

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Speaker 2: And I who decides these things? What's someone from in

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Speaker 2: vcago InCAR Giglian and then Giglian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what about Westport Portian? Nowsoniana, there's nice christ Churchian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what the rules that that that that

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Speaker 2: you decide that you know, who decides what you are?

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Speaker 2: Because it's just an Aucklander is just an Aucklander?

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Speaker 3: Well look at this for weird people from Newcastle are

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Speaker 3: no Vocastrians?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Have I just been stitched up there? What is Novocastrian?

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Speaker 2: That feels like a dirty word, that checks out, that

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Speaker 2: people from Christ are called, what people from Christ called.

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Speaker 3: This was a playing people. By the way, you might

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Speaker 3: researching what people have. It's Cantabrians, just Cantabrian.

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Speaker 2: No, but that's has to be. There's one for this

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Speaker 2: because as Booty in, so if you're from you're an

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Speaker 2: a targo Wian. Yep, if from a Tiger, you're an

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Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, Yeah, what does Google say? Nine

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Speaker 2: But that's from someone So you you know you're not.

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Speaker 2: The whole subur of christ Church is more to Canterbury

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Speaker 3: We've only just apologized and now we're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: I've got to actually say, and it did my hit

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Speaker 3: It's Neil A grass Tyson. It's not a Cantyrian. It's

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Speaker 2: We came weal there's Wellingtonians. Yeah, Wellingtonians.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the show today because it's got We've

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Speaker 3: got a doozy four years we always do after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: You may have seen this ad Lottos beer Bottom Skier.

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Speaker 3: It's clinched a new prize alongside his powerable win after

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Speaker 3: emerging is the most complained about ed and twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: This year, the Advertising Standards Authority received forty eight complaints

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Speaker 2: So, how do you feel that the Overton window on

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Speaker 2: just you can just moon anyone on national TV to

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Speaker 2: hock your product. How do you feel about that? And

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Speaker 2: how far do you think it's going to go?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: And what other areas of the Overton window have surprised

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Speaker 2: for understanding how ideas move from unthinkable to standard over time.

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Speaker 2: So it is now fine according to the Broadcasting Standards

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Speaker 2: Authority and the Advertising Standards Authority for someone to moon

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Speaker 2: far the Overton window has moved from, as I said,

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Speaker 2: to be a great chat after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, you could pay a real estate agent

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Speaker 2: Have you sold your house yourself? Have you just gone around,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine the amount of admin plus just the

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Speaker 2: esta agents why are you still needed in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about who so

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Speaker 3: hoon's on dirt bike sanding cars are terrorizing locals and

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Speaker 3: numerous reports of illegal dirt bike activity. There's been quite

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Speaker 2: But are they any worse now? Because if you read

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Speaker 2: like the boy races of today are far worse than

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Speaker 2: we've ever seen before. But haven't we always had them?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what about the movie American Graffiti. I know

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Speaker 2: And what's so bad about the behavior of dirt dirt

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Speaker 2: hasn't there always been dirt bike riders. I had my

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Speaker 2: mates when I was going to school would ride to

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Speaker 2: you want to call them worse than ever? Their behavior?

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Speaker 3: Do they still do the skids? I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: need think, I would say that the boy racer activity,

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Speaker 2: I think that's happening quite a lot in Aukland, right,

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Speaker 2: there's some backstreets in West Auckland that you know there's

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Speaker 2: but is that just the bad part of it?

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Speaker 2: Is it the behavior in the cars or or the

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Speaker 2: behavior around it worse? This Texas says, don't be relic ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Boy racers are worse than anything we have ever seen

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Speaker 2: drinking back in the day, but we didn't have knives.

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Speaker 2: The boy racers of today are evil in a way

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Speaker 2: we never were. Right, So this sounds like it that's Texas,

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Speaker 3: Are you inundated with these hones? Is it worse than

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Speaker 3: you on, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: And that is not true that Aucklanders are Jeffers. That

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Speaker 2: Karglians aren't Ingbredians. That's ridiculous. Oh, come on. This text

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Speaker 2: of Ben says people only get angry at dirt bike

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Speaker 2: riders because they don't have a dirt bike themselves. There'd

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Speaker 2: be some truth in that. Is that true? Fifteen past

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Speaker 2: one oh, eight hundred eighty, ten eighty, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon, eighteen past one, and we're talking about hoons.

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Speaker 3: There's an editorial in the Herald today saying it's time

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Speaker 3: we do something about the hoons and the dirt bike

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Speaker 3: riders that are terrorizing locals and damaging parts. But we've

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Speaker 3: asked the question, is it any worse today than it

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Speaker 3: has been in the past with oraces.

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Speaker 2: Or is this just a beat up? They used to

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Speaker 2: be called milk bar cowboys in the nine fifties. Anyone

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Speaker 2: remember that. That's embarrassing to me called that? How much

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Speaker 2: damage going to milk bar cowboy? Do boggies, lead foots,

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Speaker 2: petrol heads, bogans, boy races, redheads, hons. We've had, we've

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Speaker 2: had all of them. Boy races, enthusiast YEP, and the

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Speaker 2: dirt what do you call the dirt bike riders just turns,

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Speaker 2: just turns. Yeah, this text is sears and I read

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Speaker 2: this is outrageous of you to suggest these boy races

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Speaker 2: are just boys having fun. We didn't They are criminals.

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Speaker 2: It's pea, it's drink, it's violence. It has nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with cars. It's the worst of society.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this takes to Sears guys and the Waikato

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Speaker 3: diace and dirt bikes across Hamilton boys fields a few

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're pretty scummy if you do something like that.

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Speaker 2: The hogs with no mufflers are what's pissing me off.

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Speaker 7: How are you guys?

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Speaker 9: No, oh you've been old booming that I own. I

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Speaker 2: Classic Classics human behavior.

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Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, I know you shouldn't laugh about it, but

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Speaker 2: Is there anything, Hilaria, Is there anything that boy racers

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Speaker 6: So you know, I just think it's part of life,

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Speaker 2: So you think you think that you go through young

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Speaker 7: Small faction of people probably like that.

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Speaker 9: But always if you don't remember the top your thing

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Speaker 10: Field in your car and to what you're doing, I

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Speaker 9: You'll ever get riever, it's a it's just a part

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Speaker 2: So do you think you don't think that there's any

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Speaker 7: Patch at the light.

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Speaker 9: So I think it's always been there.

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Speaker 2: Were you're committing any other crimes, Trevor, when you were

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Speaker 2: No comment, it's a hard use from Trivor. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for your call. This this Texas is wake up guys.

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Speaker 2: Those call those so called dirt bikers you see ripping

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Speaker 3: That's right, yep? I mean, is it to Trever's point,

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Speaker 3: We were you know, he's knees and.

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Speaker 2: You were in a nifty fifty year Yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: Nobody thought we were much of a danger. Funnily enough, bye,

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Speaker 2: Nifty fifties man that the road knights would have eaten you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. It's twenty four past one. Back with Maury

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 11: Eric Stanford is the Education minister. Okay, so about a

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Speaker 11: Surnic Gibb is obviously the chap who turned education around.

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Speaker 12: He's been an excellent mentor. Nick told me never give

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Speaker 10: Keep going.

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Speaker 12: Now. I remember a year ago when people were putting

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Speaker 12: These young people need to be literate and numerate and

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Speaker 1: Heather duplusy Ellen on the My asking Breakfast back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at six am with a Vida Retirement Communities on News

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Speaker 1: toms'd be.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty seven past one, so hanging on.

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Speaker 2: You've got a message. At the start of the hour,

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Speaker 3: Wow is emailed through and he's done the research here,

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Speaker 2: You like been called a christ Churchien?

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Speaker 6: How are you guys?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 6: I thought in Christ you it's you were defined by

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Speaker 6: Now these, yeah, I think you're really a courset on

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Speaker 2: It's easier to organize for large groups of people to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you if you're out sort of driving the street,

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Speaker 6: all callers said a lot of these prospects potentially for

431
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Speaker 6: bigger honors, and.

432
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Speaker 3: That's a fair point. I think prospects have been known

433
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Speaker 3: to be a little bit more loose with some of

434
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Speaker 3: their activity because they're trying to prove themselves. And not

435
00:20:13,013 --> 00:20:16,013
Speaker 3: to say that gang members don't do terrible things. But

436
00:20:16,613 --> 00:20:19,133
Speaker 3: you know, you could argue that the senior gang members

437
00:20:19,173 --> 00:20:20,973
Speaker 3: still have some sort of code, even though it's a

438
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Speaker 3: horrible code. The prospects can be more dangerous, right, Yeah.

439
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Speaker 6: And I possibly think the age as well, like a

440
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Speaker 6: lot of these kids I would say would be very

441
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Speaker 6: early teens. That's even that some of the ones you

442
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Speaker 6: see on the bikes these days.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you call Cameron, I'm amazed. So

444
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Speaker 2: I was on Saunder's place in Westalkland the other day, yep,

445
00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:49,333
Speaker 2: and man, there's clearly a lot of activity going around there.

446
00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:54,813
Speaker 2: There's so so much junk from cars. There's there's there's

447
00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:58,173
Speaker 2: skid marks everywhere, there's bits of tires everywhere. I mean,

448
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Speaker 2: if you wanted to, if you wanted to shut that down,

449
00:21:00,733 --> 00:21:03,093
Speaker 2: you just need a couple of cops hide around the

450
00:21:03,093 --> 00:21:05,773
Speaker 2: corner any any Friday or Saturday night. You're going to

451
00:21:05,853 --> 00:21:08,253
Speaker 2: catch a lot of people. Yeah, you know. Or just

452
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,493
Speaker 2: if you're a cop and just hide on one of

453
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Speaker 2: the roofs of the warehouses with a camera, you could

454
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Speaker 2: snap quite a lot of shots and follow it up

455
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Speaker 2: and probably shut down most of the scene.

456
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Speaker 3: And they used to do that with the skids. If

457
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Speaker 3: they find out where the skids are and they get

458
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Speaker 3: a couple of cops there on either side, and as

459
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Speaker 3: people are starting to leave, they check it.

460
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Speaker 2: They've got warrens. They check it. Theyve been drinking.

461
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Speaker 3: If you're a police officer, is that still happening right

462
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Speaker 3: now with the skids?

463
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Speaker 6: So to speak?

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Speaker 3: I wite undred and eighty ten eighties and number to

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Speaker 3: call if you want to text through nine two nine two.

466
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Speaker 2: This is a type of text we get a lot

467
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Speaker 2: on this show. And I was talking about it yesterday

468
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Speaker 2: where they say stop it, stop talking about something.

469
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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I like that you should stop talking about something because

471
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Speaker 2: it manifests it. Stop it. You guys need to say

472
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Speaker 2: your belief. You're making it sound like it's not like

473
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Speaker 2: the old days. These are ones who are now ending

474
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Speaker 2: up in jail for major crimes burglary, gangs, rape. Your

475
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Speaker 2: childish talk is making it more likely to happen.

476
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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I think I'm passionate, but I don't you know.

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Speaker 2: It's an odd idea, the idea that you wouldn't talk

478
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Speaker 2: about bad things that are happening society. Stop stop stoping.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait after it? Eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. We love talking on the show, and we

481
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Speaker 3: want to hear from you and chat with you. But

482
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Speaker 3: we've got the headlines coming up in full board. So

483
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Speaker 3: if you can't get through, keep trying. And if you

484
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Speaker 3: want to text nine two niney two.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you just want to text to tell

486
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Speaker 2: us to stop talking and about about complicated and confrontational issues,

487
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Speaker 2: then fire through nine two nine two. We're here for it.

488
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Speaker 4: Jus talks at the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis, it's

489
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Speaker 4: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister is

490
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Speaker 4: telling David Seymour to leave correspondence with the United Nations

491
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Speaker 4: to the Foreign Minister. Seymoul's bitten back at a UN

492
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Speaker 4: letter expressing concerns about his regeditory standards Bill Foodstuff's North

493
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Speaker 4: Island is denying claims of cartel conduct is The Commerce

494
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Speaker 4: Commission launches action against it and Gilmore's, alleging breaches of

495
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Speaker 4: Commerce and Grocery Competition Acts. Civil Defense says people needing

496
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Speaker 4: help and Nelson Tasman should call them. As flood clean

497
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Speaker 4: up continues, the job market and public sector layoffs have

498
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Speaker 4: likely played into enduring low house prices in Wellington, which

499
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Speaker 4: are down twenty five point six percent on four years ago.

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Speaker 4: Auckland prices are still down twenty two point three percent.

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Speaker 4: The local government Minister's unveiled new legislation to refocus councils,

502
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Speaker 4: which will require local bodies to financially prioritize roading, core infrastructure,

503
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Speaker 4: water and rubbish. Solar company collapses. Kei we Bank among creditors,

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Speaker 4: owed more than three million dollars. You can find out

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Speaker 4: more at Ens and Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

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Speaker 4: Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about hone's

508
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Speaker 3: boy racers, boyos, bogans.

509
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Speaker 2: Matt Tyler, five youths hanging around a milk bar is

510
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Speaker 2: one thing. Through social media, you have five hundred people

511
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Speaker 2: egging on one hundred lunatics and lethal weapons tearing up

512
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Speaker 2: the road. That's from Lionel.

513
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So maybe that is the difference, because really, I

515
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Speaker 2: mean the question I'm asking, is it any worse than

516
00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:15,973
Speaker 2: it has ever been? Because we've we've always had names

517
00:24:16,013 --> 00:24:18,133
Speaker 2: for these these kind of people, whether it was bodgis,

518
00:24:18,213 --> 00:24:23,373
Speaker 2: boyos and now it's boy races, gooday lads, boy racers, yobs,

519
00:24:23,653 --> 00:24:26,133
Speaker 2: boy racer yobs regardless of the vehicles they drive. I've

520
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:29,053
Speaker 2: been a four wheel drive driver since I first got

521
00:24:29,093 --> 00:24:31,572
Speaker 2: my license, but used four wheel drive tracks purely as

522
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Speaker 2: a means to access huts and hunting fishing, and looked

523
00:24:34,013 --> 00:24:36,253
Speaker 2: after the tracks and the process. Now that a bunch

524
00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:40,373
Speaker 2: of the lowered logic dickheads have changed over to lifted

525
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Speaker 2: logic jacked up forward by fours with ridiculous large wheels,

526
00:24:43,493 --> 00:24:46,173
Speaker 2: the tracks are stuffed and inaccessible to most standard four

527
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Speaker 2: by fours because the yobs treat the tracks the same

528
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Speaker 2: as they do the roads. Absolute munters, it's another word

529
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Speaker 2: for it, munters. Munters is a great name.

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Speaker 5: Rob.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

532
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Speaker 13: You guy?

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Speaker 7: Guys, you guys are really really clever or what you

534
00:25:00,013 --> 00:25:01,813
Speaker 7: know how to wind people up and get them to

535
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Speaker 7: get them on tracks we want them? So I've had

536
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Speaker 7: to call in about three ye ago, I think it

537
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Speaker 7: was about twenty.

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Speaker 5: I it.

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Speaker 7: Just just sort of round COVID time. I was just

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Speaker 7: going back from work and two dirt bikes pulled out

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Speaker 7: in front of me, this is in Manarawa, and slowed

542
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Speaker 7: right down to about twenty k, held all the graph

543
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Speaker 7: it up and then they took off and then started

544
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Speaker 7: doing their big miner down the road and I videoed

545
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Speaker 7: it all and they fell off, and it absolutely just

546
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Speaker 7: made my day and it went right around the world.

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Speaker 7: It had something like eight million views.

548
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Speaker 2: How would I find that video?

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Speaker 5: Rob?

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Speaker 3: Sorry just to jump in there if I google dirt

551
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Speaker 3: bike video South Auckland fell off.

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Speaker 7: If you haven't seen it by now, mate, you've been

553
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Speaker 7: living under a mushroom, I'll tell you. Maybe made my day.

554
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Speaker 7: I don't know, but it's a bit of bad language.

555
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Speaker 7: You don't want to play another radio?

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I've got to ask the question, how

557
00:26:01,733 --> 00:26:02,933
Speaker 2: did they fall off? What were they doing?

558
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Speaker 6: Oh?

559
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Speaker 7: Just just bad form, yeah, right, pulled the back wheel,

560
00:26:07,733 --> 00:26:09,813
Speaker 7: had a bit of a on the road and asked

561
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Speaker 7: up to get along the road.

562
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Speaker 2: And so there was the two bikes simultaneously. Two bikes

563
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Speaker 2: simultaneous simultaneously fell over.

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Speaker 7: Yep, No, they're just one of them. Much now I've

565
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Speaker 7: found out since the criminals that they're stolen bykes. This

566
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Speaker 7: is what people confused. You said, motorbikes ands to do

567
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Speaker 7: silly stuff, but people had respect for the lord. These

568
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Speaker 7: guys since COVID, I know you remember before COVID around

569
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Speaker 7: South Ookland and maybe out were stalking kids have big

570
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Speaker 7: gangs riding around on vmxes and mountain bikes on one wheel.

571
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Speaker 7: Remember that, Yeah, remember that it went from there as

572
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Speaker 7: soon as COVID happened the whole country.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You imagine we're all locked down and everyone was conformed,

575
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Speaker 7: you know, to obey and stay home and all this

576
00:27:01,693 --> 00:27:04,173
Speaker 7: conforming every all over the place, and then all of

577
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Speaker 7: a sudden you see someone that's just like middle Finger,

578
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Speaker 7: I'm not conforming. I'm doing absolutely anything that anyone says wrong.

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Speaker 7: It really sort of grinds people's gears that you're suffering

580
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Speaker 7: and they're, you know, having fun. So this is definitely

581
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Speaker 7: a different group of of vikies. And there's still a

582
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Speaker 7: few hard fort around South Aukland that I see, and

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Speaker 7: they're doing drug running or things like that because it's

584
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Speaker 7: pretty hard, pretty much impossible catch.

585
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Speaker 3: So this is different from boy racers, isn't it.

586
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Speaker 8: Rob.

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Speaker 3: We're talking specifically here about these dirt bike racers, and

588
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Speaker 3: it sounds like there's a lot of them in South Auckland.

589
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of them in Northland and now Rode

590
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Speaker 3: a ruer. But that is different from the boy racer

591
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Speaker 3: crowd that we.

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Speaker 2: Used to hear of. A few someone said it through.

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Speaker 2: We've got the video here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a funny.

594
00:27:55,213 --> 00:27:56,973
Speaker 2: I need to watch it. Matt, Matt's watching it and

595
00:27:57,093 --> 00:27:58,413
Speaker 2: I can't see it. I need to see it. I'll

596
00:27:58,413 --> 00:28:01,813
Speaker 2: watch that in the air break. Sorry sorry Tyler, but Rob,

597
00:28:01,853 --> 00:28:05,333
Speaker 2: you're right. It's about fifty people just set the video

598
00:28:05,453 --> 00:28:06,653
Speaker 2: and it's very famous video.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm looking forward to watching that. Is that

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00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:11,053
Speaker 3: the thing Robert music? It's different to the old boy

601
00:28:11,173 --> 00:28:15,373
Speaker 3: racing crowd. These are dirt bike races which are different, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Completely different. Like you know, so I grew up in

603
00:28:17,453 --> 00:28:22,173
Speaker 7: bo bikes comes and and you know, we were, but

604
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Speaker 7: we always had that fear that we get caught, you know,

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Speaker 7: Like I actually got a speedy take it. One day

606
00:28:27,013 --> 00:28:30,053
Speaker 7: I bought a new trail bike and and I took

607
00:28:30,133 --> 00:28:32,572
Speaker 7: off and just the power, the funk wheels jumped off

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Speaker 7: the ground like I mean like probably four hundred mil.

609
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Speaker 7: And the local cop nailed me and I got dangerous driving.

610
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Speaker 7: Had to go to court with an eighty dollar fine.

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00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:44,013
Speaker 7: Back then, I was only making eighty bucks a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some good abuse. That's just the way he

613
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,133
Speaker 3: grabs his ars after he gets off the pavement. It's

614
00:28:55,173 --> 00:28:56,293
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's a great video.

615
00:28:57,093 --> 00:28:59,613
Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, all.

616
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Speaker 7: Of orphaned we're all just in lockdown at the same time,

617
00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:05,453
Speaker 7: and everyone was just like me and guys a message

618
00:29:05,493 --> 00:29:07,853
Speaker 7: of me, why didn't you run him over? And you know,

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00:29:08,013 --> 00:29:12,413
Speaker 7: there was such massive bloody surgeon. I've got just hundreds

620
00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:15,773
Speaker 7: of bloody messages, quite some real nasty ones too. Some

621
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Speaker 7: people said they're going to come around and kill my

622
00:29:18,533 --> 00:29:19,293
Speaker 7: family and everything.

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Speaker 2: That's not good. But there's something about certain videos with

624
00:29:24,533 --> 00:29:27,413
Speaker 2: the comic timings so perfect as well. So there's just

625
00:29:27,613 --> 00:29:30,053
Speaker 2: a way it holds on until he goes off, and

626
00:29:30,133 --> 00:29:32,293
Speaker 2: the way he bounces and jumps back up. It's a

627
00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:35,493
Speaker 2: great video. Probe, sorry for laughing through you what you

628
00:29:35,533 --> 00:29:37,933
Speaker 2: were talking about. Just pulled the video up.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't mind if we put it on

630
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Speaker 3: our Facebook page.

631
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Speaker 6: Drop, No, not at all.

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Speaker 14: Everyone's seen it now, so yeah, yeah, you know what.

633
00:29:46,333 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 7: They didn't hurt themselves, honestly, they just slid along the road.

634
00:29:53,253 --> 00:29:54,893
Speaker 2: It was a good bounce he made when he first

635
00:29:55,173 --> 00:30:03,253
Speaker 2: first you know, fell off. Yeah, anyway, if you rock.

636
00:30:03,173 --> 00:30:05,453
Speaker 3: Right, we'llee everyone get their video up on our Facebook page.

637
00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:07,773
Speaker 3: To suit for Matt and Tyler afternoons on Facebook. We

638
00:30:07,853 --> 00:30:09,733
Speaker 3: might have to see or we just let it ride.

639
00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:10,853
Speaker 3: It's a great video.

640
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:13,253
Speaker 2: Officional this Texas is pull yourself together.

641
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:13,453
Speaker 6: Man.

642
00:30:13,493 --> 00:30:16,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some professional from you, Tyler. Can't see this video.

643
00:30:16,253 --> 00:30:19,733
Speaker 2: You can't just start watching videos and well, someone's on

644
00:30:19,853 --> 00:30:22,013
Speaker 2: the line. So good. I waite undred eighty ten eighty

645
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:28,333
Speaker 2: boy racers worse than they've ever been. Seventeen to two, matd.

646
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Speaker 1: Heath, Taylor Adams with you is your afternoon rolls on

647
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Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks'd be.

648
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Speaker 2: Fourteen to two. Get a hugo your thoughts on the

649
00:30:39,733 --> 00:30:43,933
Speaker 2: current state of boy racers and such?

650
00:30:46,253 --> 00:30:51,373
Speaker 13: Hate me? Yeah, you mean things. But hey, Tyler, I

651
00:30:51,533 --> 00:30:54,813
Speaker 13: learned a hard way on one of the ogs.

652
00:30:55,493 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 6: You know.

653
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:59,933
Speaker 13: I started off on a horse. Well, I was nine,

654
00:30:59,973 --> 00:31:04,493
Speaker 13: and I was nine, I got a motorbike, you know. Look,

655
00:31:04,733 --> 00:31:09,173
Speaker 13: I just yeah, I love cass, love motorbikes. I've been

656
00:31:09,213 --> 00:31:12,493
Speaker 13: a part of clubs even since I could be in

657
00:31:12,573 --> 00:31:18,693
Speaker 13: one vintage motorcycle vintage car clubs to date. But yeah,

658
00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:21,053
Speaker 13: I've noticed even in those clubs, you know, things get

659
00:31:21,053 --> 00:31:24,173
Speaker 13: a bit clicky, you know, and and I think, what

660
00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:28,533
Speaker 13: the trouble is is with with the scene these days,

661
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:33,693
Speaker 13: is it's getting a bit gangster. All these car clubs

662
00:31:33,773 --> 00:31:38,333
Speaker 13: coming in and you know they're not the Auckland Vintage

663
00:31:38,373 --> 00:31:42,173
Speaker 13: Car Club or Canterbury Vintage Car Club. They call themselves

664
00:31:43,573 --> 00:31:46,933
Speaker 13: Yea or Dada, you know, and I don't know, maybe

665
00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:49,013
Speaker 13: they're trying to keep up with the motorbikes. I don't

666
00:31:49,013 --> 00:31:51,493
Speaker 13: know what's going on here, but there's these clubs and

667
00:31:51,613 --> 00:31:55,373
Speaker 13: it's just ruined the scene. It's just brought this mentality

668
00:31:56,573 --> 00:32:02,013
Speaker 13: which it's just not not keeping it real, you know,

669
00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:09,173
Speaker 13: irrelevant what they're there for and what we're doing. You know,

670
00:32:09,293 --> 00:32:11,253
Speaker 13: back in the day, it was awesome. We used to

671
00:32:11,333 --> 00:32:14,973
Speaker 13: get around. I still, yeah, I feel like I still

672
00:32:15,013 --> 00:32:17,893
Speaker 13: take my car to shows and that now bikes to

673
00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:20,733
Speaker 13: the shows going on. But ye're trying to stay away

674
00:32:20,773 --> 00:32:24,013
Speaker 13: from the the scene and the clicking scene about it,

675
00:32:24,093 --> 00:32:27,773
Speaker 13: because yeah, this doesn't do much for us anymore. You know,

676
00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:31,613
Speaker 13: we used to go around somewhere meet up and you know,

677
00:32:32,933 --> 00:32:34,333
Speaker 13: hang out and meet meet people.

678
00:32:36,453 --> 00:32:43,133
Speaker 2: There wasn't a criminal behavior and your heyday, there.

679
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,053
Speaker 13: Was no rump, you know, there was no ruckers. You know,

680
00:32:45,173 --> 00:32:47,133
Speaker 13: people were there for that, you know, it's hard to

681
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,613
Speaker 13: get in the rumble with someone that you you know,

682
00:32:49,733 --> 00:32:52,053
Speaker 13: if you're there for the right cause, because you're both

683
00:32:52,093 --> 00:32:55,573
Speaker 13: sharing the same interest. And yeah, but there's people that

684
00:32:55,653 --> 00:32:58,693
Speaker 13: turn up nowadays. One of the I don't know, prove

685
00:32:58,813 --> 00:33:03,253
Speaker 13: prove it pointed out who's whose car a game? It's tough, right, and.

686
00:33:06,133 --> 00:33:07,373
Speaker 2: You think, do you think it's do you think it

687
00:33:07,453 --> 00:33:09,693
Speaker 2: might be an age that those So when you when

688
00:33:09,733 --> 00:33:13,053
Speaker 2: you're younger, you misbehave more and then as you get

689
00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:17,293
Speaker 2: older you sort of you know, you've got more responsibility

690
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:19,813
Speaker 2: in life and you start to care about the actual vehicles.

691
00:33:21,493 --> 00:33:27,093
Speaker 13: Yeah, but now there's a big difference here in that.

692
00:33:27,293 --> 00:33:31,013
Speaker 13: But I guess we all starting the same thing.

693
00:33:31,173 --> 00:33:31,333
Speaker 6: You know.

694
00:33:31,653 --> 00:33:33,213
Speaker 13: We love the sound of the motive, we love the

695
00:33:33,253 --> 00:33:35,293
Speaker 13: burnout and loved having fun in the car and the

696
00:33:35,373 --> 00:33:40,413
Speaker 13: motorbike whatever. But yeah, nowadays it's different, like it's the

697
00:33:41,493 --> 00:33:44,613
Speaker 13: next generation coming through. Have got this gangster mental with

698
00:33:44,773 --> 00:33:49,173
Speaker 13: the club's heap of cars, and yeah, they're for other

699
00:33:49,893 --> 00:33:50,533
Speaker 13: other reasons.

700
00:33:51,213 --> 00:33:53,733
Speaker 2: You all think if you cook, you go appreciate that. John,

701
00:33:54,453 --> 00:33:57,173
Speaker 2: you reckon, there's a difference between dirt bikers and the crimbs.

702
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:04,733
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, get mate, am I on yeah, look, I

703
00:34:04,813 --> 00:34:05,813
Speaker 5: think there's a risk.

704
00:34:06,213 --> 00:34:08,372
Speaker 6: Amongst a lot of people can fly.

705
00:34:10,053 --> 00:34:12,772
Speaker 5: Some kids who've got some stolen bikes and racing down

706
00:34:12,813 --> 00:34:17,333
Speaker 5: the street in South Auckland or whatever. And the legitimate

707
00:34:17,613 --> 00:34:20,493
Speaker 5: motorcycle racing scene which I've been a part of for

708
00:34:20,573 --> 00:34:24,453
Speaker 5: fifty years, and we've got tens of thousands of people

709
00:34:24,573 --> 00:34:28,093
Speaker 5: belong to clubs. There's no rumbling in the clubs. How

710
00:34:28,213 --> 00:34:32,053
Speaker 5: mean you? We put on serious events. We belong to

711
00:34:32,933 --> 00:34:36,413
Speaker 5: a national organization where we belong to an international organization.

712
00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 5: We've had every two or three years we'll having.

713
00:34:40,253 --> 00:34:41,493
Speaker 6: His Zeland Champion and one.

714
00:34:41,453 --> 00:34:45,333
Speaker 5: Of the disciplines and it's a serious business. We train

715
00:34:47,213 --> 00:34:51,213
Speaker 5: just like any other athlete. And the kids that are

716
00:34:51,293 --> 00:34:55,652
Speaker 5: riding in South Ugland, from my knowledge, primarily are riding

717
00:34:55,733 --> 00:35:00,133
Speaker 5: on stolen bikes. They're stolen, they're off road bikes, they've

718
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:03,333
Speaker 5: got no red dough the hard to trace. The police

719
00:35:03,373 --> 00:35:06,613
Speaker 5: sometimes don't make a great effort to try and find them.

720
00:35:07,053 --> 00:35:09,413
Speaker 5: I know lots of people who've had bikes stolen and

721
00:35:09,493 --> 00:35:15,053
Speaker 5: they are here and that's how it goes. But it's

722
00:35:15,253 --> 00:35:19,053
Speaker 5: very easy for people to think that anyone, yeah, right

723
00:35:19,253 --> 00:35:25,333
Speaker 5: bike is you know, it's just we're not scumbacks.

724
00:35:25,693 --> 00:35:27,733
Speaker 2: Is there any way to get the people that are

725
00:35:28,053 --> 00:35:31,453
Speaker 2: misbehaving on these bikes into the kind of thing you're

726
00:35:31,493 --> 00:35:34,292
Speaker 2: talking about or is it just totally different. There's nothing

727
00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:36,133
Speaker 2: there for them. If you organize something that don't want

728
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:38,493
Speaker 2: to be part of it. They want to be away

729
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:40,693
Speaker 2: on the streets misbehaving exactly.

730
00:35:41,493 --> 00:35:45,613
Speaker 5: Because the thing is because we're a discipline, we have competition, licenses,

731
00:35:47,373 --> 00:35:50,013
Speaker 5: it's a serious thing. There are standards. The bikes have

732
00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:52,732
Speaker 5: to be screwtin there, you have to wear the right

733
00:35:52,813 --> 00:35:56,133
Speaker 5: safety gear, all of that. Plus there's rules because they'll

734
00:35:56,173 --> 00:36:00,733
Speaker 5: want rules, that's what they They're just no way that

735
00:36:00,853 --> 00:36:01,613
Speaker 5: we fit together.

736
00:36:03,133 --> 00:36:05,573
Speaker 3: Sorry to jump in there, John, but these aren't gang

737
00:36:05,653 --> 00:36:06,853
Speaker 3: members down in christ It's right.

738
00:36:06,893 --> 00:36:07,053
Speaker 15: I know.

739
00:36:07,133 --> 00:36:09,053
Speaker 3: They're just young kids and they got dirt bikes and

740
00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:11,053
Speaker 3: some of them electric, but most of them are motorized.

741
00:36:11,053 --> 00:36:13,413
Speaker 3: But they go and say the red zone for example,

742
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,933
Speaker 3: or Bottle Lake, and people get really upset with that.

743
00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:17,933
Speaker 3: I don't because I think these kids have got to

744
00:36:18,293 --> 00:36:20,573
Speaker 3: learn how to ride somewhere. As long as they're not

745
00:36:20,653 --> 00:36:24,013
Speaker 3: putting anybody in danger. That behavior to me is just

746
00:36:24,093 --> 00:36:24,732
Speaker 3: kids being kids.

747
00:36:24,813 --> 00:36:24,933
Speaker 6: Right.

748
00:36:25,053 --> 00:36:27,733
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I don't know anything about the scene in

749
00:36:28,013 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 5: christ Hitch.

750
00:36:28,693 --> 00:36:30,613
Speaker 7: I know, I know what it's like in the wake

751
00:36:30,653 --> 00:36:31,093
Speaker 7: out of here.

752
00:36:31,533 --> 00:36:35,093
Speaker 5: I know one thing, It is difficult to find places

753
00:36:35,213 --> 00:36:40,493
Speaker 5: to ride because essentially there's a lot of provision of

754
00:36:40,613 --> 00:36:43,933
Speaker 5: parks and playgrounds and walking tracks and all kinds of stuff.

755
00:36:44,413 --> 00:36:52,373
Speaker 5: But traditionally local councils and local authorities don't see riding

756
00:36:52,373 --> 00:36:56,373
Speaker 5: a motorbike around them dirt as a legitimate recreation form.

757
00:36:56,933 --> 00:36:59,293
Speaker 5: Ye March, So most of our events, for instance, we

758
00:36:59,493 --> 00:37:02,853
Speaker 5: run their run in private forestry areas or on private land,

759
00:37:03,573 --> 00:37:07,293
Speaker 5: so there's almost no public provision.

760
00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:07,613
Speaker 6: For anywhere to go.

761
00:37:07,853 --> 00:37:10,293
Speaker 5: So I think that it would be good if they're

762
00:37:10,333 --> 00:37:16,453
Speaker 5: workplaces once again, But they don't like rules, and they

763
00:37:16,813 --> 00:37:19,293
Speaker 5: tend to want to just do their own thing the

764
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,133
Speaker 5: way they want to. They don't want to have elmets,

765
00:37:21,453 --> 00:37:23,093
Speaker 5: they don't want to all go in the same direction,

766
00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:26,493
Speaker 5: and often they don't want to go somewhere away in

767
00:37:26,573 --> 00:37:28,533
Speaker 5: the back blocks and do it because there's no one

768
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:29,133
Speaker 5: to see them.

769
00:37:29,453 --> 00:37:32,013
Speaker 2: Hey, if people want to do what you do in

770
00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 2: the legitimate way, what's a good place for them to start?

771
00:37:36,173 --> 00:37:36,693
Speaker 2: Where would they go?

772
00:37:38,293 --> 00:37:40,573
Speaker 9: Well, they have to do that's a hard thing.

773
00:37:40,653 --> 00:37:43,373
Speaker 5: They have to join a club and they have to

774
00:37:43,613 --> 00:37:47,293
Speaker 5: and then they've got to buy a bike that's you know,

775
00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:50,893
Speaker 5: that's up to standard, and then you've got to start

776
00:37:50,973 --> 00:37:53,653
Speaker 5: learning skills because the reality is that the people that

777
00:37:53,733 --> 00:37:56,053
Speaker 5: you see riding across the local park, which I see

778
00:37:56,133 --> 00:37:59,133
Speaker 5: up the road and it grinds my gears no end,

779
00:37:59,853 --> 00:38:02,373
Speaker 5: they wouldn't go one hundred meters in a competition event.

780
00:38:02,813 --> 00:38:04,373
Speaker 5: They just be on their ear because they've got the

781
00:38:04,493 --> 00:38:05,253
Speaker 5: zero skills.

782
00:38:05,493 --> 00:38:06,573
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we'll think of you.

783
00:38:06,653 --> 00:38:08,933
Speaker 3: Call John, got a place a mess but when we

784
00:38:09,013 --> 00:38:11,333
Speaker 3: come back, we'll get a few more of your text messages.

785
00:38:11,493 --> 00:38:12,693
Speaker 3: And it is seven to.

786
00:38:12,733 --> 00:38:17,333
Speaker 1: Two Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight

787
00:38:17,413 --> 00:38:19,812
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

788
00:38:19,893 --> 00:38:22,493
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons News DOGSB.

789
00:38:23,653 --> 00:38:25,893
Speaker 2: News Dogs B. It is four to two.

790
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,253
Speaker 3: Couple of texts to wrap up this topic.

791
00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:31,533
Speaker 2: Silver Bullet is a website that has trail rides available

792
00:38:31,573 --> 00:38:34,333
Speaker 2: for riders of all skill levels, but again there are

793
00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:37,253
Speaker 2: rules that must be followed. Thanks for that text, Darren.

794
00:38:37,893 --> 00:38:40,093
Speaker 2: Please don't call the criminals races. They are not the

795
00:38:40,293 --> 00:38:43,373
Speaker 2: likes of Scott Dixon and Shane Van Gisberg. And are races.

796
00:38:43,453 --> 00:38:46,212
Speaker 2: They are criminals. They didn't buy the bikes because they

797
00:38:46,373 --> 00:38:49,213
Speaker 2: don't work. Hey, lads, I hate the term boy races.

798
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:51,333
Speaker 2: I'm a boy and I find it very offensive. I've

799
00:38:51,373 --> 00:38:53,573
Speaker 2: seen girls do it and they don't get the bad rap.

800
00:38:53,693 --> 00:38:57,453
Speaker 2: I prefer street races for the degenerates. That's from from

801
00:38:57,493 --> 00:38:59,853
Speaker 2: Frankie bat. I mean as there are some girls, but

802
00:39:00,013 --> 00:39:02,453
Speaker 2: it's mainly boys. Right, yeah, mainly boyras. I beat your

803
00:39:02,453 --> 00:39:04,453
Speaker 2: bottom dollar. Those bikes are stolen. There's no way they

804
00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,772
Speaker 2: bought those bikes legitimately when they are running the risk

805
00:39:06,893 --> 00:39:08,213
Speaker 2: of the cops confiscating them.

806
00:39:08,453 --> 00:39:08,652
Speaker 6: Yeah.

807
00:39:08,933 --> 00:39:10,773
Speaker 2: Good text or there's so many texts coming through.

808
00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:13,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, hundreds, Right, thank you very much. Everyone who called

809
00:39:13,613 --> 00:39:16,133
Speaker 3: and text on that really enjoyed that discussion.

810
00:39:16,413 --> 00:39:17,933
Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock.

811
00:39:18,413 --> 00:39:20,652
Speaker 3: Is it wise to use a real estate agent when

812
00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,213
Speaker 3: you sell your house? Really keen to hear from you

813
00:39:23,453 --> 00:39:24,733
Speaker 3: if you didn't do that, and use.

814
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:30,093
Speaker 1: Next talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor

815
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:32,693
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talks.

816
00:39:32,493 --> 00:39:32,893
Speaker 15: EDB.

817
00:39:34,493 --> 00:39:37,293
Speaker 3: News Talks, D be very good afternoon, cheer. Welcome back

818
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:41,693
Speaker 3: into the program. Seven pass two. So is it essential

819
00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:44,973
Speaker 3: to use a real estate agent when selling your property.

820
00:39:45,293 --> 00:39:50,173
Speaker 3: According to property data firm Totality, they suggest it probably

821
00:39:50,293 --> 00:39:52,293
Speaker 3: is wise to use a real estate agent rather than

822
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:54,493
Speaker 3: going privately. Each year a small number of people opt

823
00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:57,893
Speaker 3: to sell their homes privately, but Cotality head of research

824
00:39:57,973 --> 00:40:00,773
Speaker 3: n good Or said agents seem to sell properties more

825
00:40:00,853 --> 00:40:02,133
Speaker 3: quickly and effectively.

826
00:40:02,693 --> 00:40:05,093
Speaker 2: So have you attempted to sell your house on your own?

827
00:40:05,133 --> 00:40:07,213
Speaker 2: How would you go about it? And if you're a

828
00:40:07,253 --> 00:40:10,453
Speaker 2: real estate agent, what do you offer that someone can't

829
00:40:11,173 --> 00:40:13,933
Speaker 2: do themselves? Can't you just have a shot of the

830
00:40:14,013 --> 00:40:17,733
Speaker 2: front of your house up on TikTok with a sons out,

831
00:40:17,813 --> 00:40:20,533
Speaker 2: guns out or something. Yeah, sounds easy from the gig go,

832
00:40:20,653 --> 00:40:22,133
Speaker 2: But what a lot of fair thing? Could you deal with?

833
00:40:22,173 --> 00:40:25,413
Speaker 2: Open homes? Open homes? Yeah, so if you were selling.

834
00:40:25,213 --> 00:40:27,253
Speaker 3: Yourself, you've got to deal with the open homes and

835
00:40:28,053 --> 00:40:31,893
Speaker 3: all these questions and punishing requests from potential buyers.

836
00:40:32,253 --> 00:40:35,973
Speaker 2: I've been to some open homes recently that I can't

837
00:40:36,013 --> 00:40:38,933
Speaker 2: believe how poorly people present their houses when they're trying

838
00:40:38,933 --> 00:40:42,732
Speaker 2: to sell them. Just give it a booby wipe down,

839
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:43,053
Speaker 2: would you?

840
00:40:43,293 --> 00:40:43,493
Speaker 14: Yeah?

841
00:40:44,453 --> 00:40:46,373
Speaker 3: Put some bread in the oven, make it smell nice,

842
00:40:46,853 --> 00:40:49,613
Speaker 3: clean the toilet for goodness sake, it's the bit.

843
00:40:49,693 --> 00:40:54,053
Speaker 2: Of yeah, so yeah, I would be interested one hundred

844
00:40:54,053 --> 00:40:55,652
Speaker 2: and eighteen eighty if you sold your house on your

845
00:40:55,693 --> 00:40:57,973
Speaker 2: on your own or are your real estate agent, and

846
00:40:58,293 --> 00:41:00,173
Speaker 2: you've got some advice for people to not do that,

847
00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:01,013
Speaker 2: I mentionine.

848
00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:02,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can save a hell of a lot

849
00:41:02,453 --> 00:41:04,413
Speaker 3: of money. As we all know, on average it's about

850
00:41:04,453 --> 00:41:07,133
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars that you would pay to a real

851
00:41:07,253 --> 00:41:09,493
Speaker 3: estate agent. Obviously that can can go higher or lower

852
00:41:09,573 --> 00:41:12,573
Speaker 3: depending on the price of your property. But love to

853
00:41:12,613 --> 00:41:15,293
Speaker 3: hear from you if you went privately, did it work

854
00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:17,013
Speaker 3: out or did it turn out to be a whole

855
00:41:17,093 --> 00:41:18,693
Speaker 3: lot of faith and a whole lot of time to

856
00:41:18,773 --> 00:41:21,493
Speaker 3: try and get the sale across the line and a

857
00:41:21,573 --> 00:41:22,733
Speaker 3: real estate agent's listening.

858
00:41:22,973 --> 00:41:25,493
Speaker 2: Give us a call the six thirty K to agents

859
00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:28,453
Speaker 2: for selling houses only for an eighty eight hundred thousand

860
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:31,373
Speaker 2: dollar house three million dollar house and it's one hundred k.

861
00:41:31,813 --> 00:41:34,533
Speaker 2: It's from Nigel. But if you're a real estate agent

862
00:41:34,653 --> 00:41:38,573
Speaker 2: increased it from you know, two point nine million to

863
00:41:40,133 --> 00:41:42,613
Speaker 2: three million or whatever, then then well with it?

864
00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:42,853
Speaker 5: Right?

865
00:41:43,013 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly? I mean do you do do real estate

866
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:48,573
Speaker 2: agents get you more money than if you sell it yourself,

867
00:41:48,853 --> 00:41:51,333
Speaker 2: and you know they know the market right, They certainly do.

868
00:41:51,493 --> 00:41:53,133
Speaker 2: So how do you know if you sell it yourself

869
00:41:53,213 --> 00:41:54,893
Speaker 2: that you've got a reasonable price?

870
00:41:55,053 --> 00:41:56,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, because otherwise that house is going to stay on

871
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:58,813
Speaker 3: the market for months and months and months potentially.

872
00:41:59,733 --> 00:41:59,933
Speaker 2: Yeah.

873
00:42:00,093 --> 00:42:02,732
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

874
00:42:02,813 --> 00:42:04,573
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you if you've gone private sale

875
00:42:04,933 --> 00:42:06,973
Speaker 3: or if you are in the real estate game. Why

876
00:42:07,093 --> 00:42:10,212
Speaker 3: is it important to use real estate agents? Let's get

877
00:42:10,213 --> 00:42:11,812
Speaker 3: into it. It is Tim Pas two.

878
00:42:13,493 --> 00:42:16,813
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

879
00:42:16,933 --> 00:42:20,893
Speaker 1: afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said, be.

880
00:42:22,653 --> 00:42:24,533
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about is it

881
00:42:25,053 --> 00:42:29,373
Speaker 3: wise to try and sell your property privately? So analysis

882
00:42:29,413 --> 00:42:33,013
Speaker 3: by Property Data cotality suggests it's probably wise to use

883
00:42:33,053 --> 00:42:36,253
Speaker 3: a real estate agent. The head of research, Nick Goodll

884
00:42:36,293 --> 00:42:38,933
Speaker 3: set agents seem to sell properties more quickly and effectively.

885
00:42:39,013 --> 00:42:42,133
Speaker 3: I quote the sales success rate is higher for agent sales.

886
00:42:42,173 --> 00:42:44,013
Speaker 3: But'd love to hear from you if you've gone private

887
00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:45,573
Speaker 3: how did it work out? I wait, undred and eighty

888
00:42:45,613 --> 00:42:47,373
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

889
00:42:48,293 --> 00:42:49,333
Speaker 2: Rosie, Welcome to the show.

890
00:42:50,653 --> 00:42:52,453
Speaker 16: Thank you, nice to talk to you.

891
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:54,653
Speaker 3: Likewise, So you're.

892
00:42:54,453 --> 00:43:00,053
Speaker 2: A real estate agent years I am, and Rosie, yes, no,

893
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:00,893
Speaker 2: good you go.

894
00:43:01,133 --> 00:43:03,053
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm just going to say.

895
00:43:02,933 --> 00:43:05,172
Speaker 16: I've been in the business probably for over thirty years.

896
00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:07,533
Speaker 16: So yes, I've been talked to a few people who've

897
00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:08,533
Speaker 16: tried to sell private.

898
00:43:09,293 --> 00:43:12,253
Speaker 2: And why do you think that's a bad idea? Rosie?

899
00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,333
Speaker 2: And obviously you're an estate agent, so you've got skin

900
00:43:14,413 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 2: in the game, But why do you think it's a

901
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:19,172
Speaker 2: bad idea for us someone to try and sell their

902
00:43:19,213 --> 00:43:19,933
Speaker 2: house on their own.

903
00:43:21,413 --> 00:43:24,133
Speaker 16: Firstly, I just just to clarify I never sell my

904
00:43:24,373 --> 00:43:27,293
Speaker 16: own properties. I always get another agent to sell mine

905
00:43:27,293 --> 00:43:30,093
Speaker 16: because I don't want to be in direct contact with

906
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:33,933
Speaker 16: a buyer because it's kind of hard. It's hard to

907
00:43:34,053 --> 00:43:37,533
Speaker 16: sell your own property because people can say all sorts

908
00:43:37,533 --> 00:43:39,413
Speaker 16: of things and they may not like it, and they

909
00:43:39,493 --> 00:43:41,853
Speaker 16: might tell you why they don't like it, which can

910
00:43:41,973 --> 00:43:46,573
Speaker 16: be hard to accept sometimes. So that's the first thing.

911
00:43:46,773 --> 00:43:50,692
Speaker 16: And funnily enough, I've just taken on a property where

912
00:43:50,853 --> 00:43:53,652
Speaker 16: the owners were trying to sell it privately and they

913
00:43:54,493 --> 00:43:59,732
Speaker 16: were pleased to give it to us to sell. They

914
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:04,453
Speaker 16: if you want to know why they felt uncomfortable dealing

915
00:44:04,613 --> 00:44:08,493
Speaker 16: with it themselves and what to say to people to

916
00:44:08,573 --> 00:44:11,772
Speaker 16: deal with it. They didn't want to do open homes. Yes,

917
00:44:11,853 --> 00:44:14,173
Speaker 16: they would have liked to have saved the money, but

918
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:17,613
Speaker 16: they knew that they weren't doing it right.

919
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:22,013
Speaker 2: So it's not just the marketing of the house, because

920
00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,493
Speaker 2: I imagine you know, people can have up something on

921
00:44:24,573 --> 00:44:28,133
Speaker 2: social media or you go to some sales site and

922
00:44:28,173 --> 00:44:30,573
Speaker 2: put up their house. So you don't think that is

923
00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:32,933
Speaker 2: the integral part of the operation.

924
00:44:34,693 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 17: No, not at all.

925
00:44:35,493 --> 00:44:38,493
Speaker 16: I mean anyone can, yes, take photos, put them on

926
00:44:38,573 --> 00:44:41,973
Speaker 16: the site, and you know, do all sorts of things

927
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:44,653
Speaker 16: to try and make it look attractive. But it's like

928
00:44:44,773 --> 00:44:48,093
Speaker 16: anything if you don't have experience in that field. It's

929
00:44:48,173 --> 00:44:49,973
Speaker 16: like you and I wouldn't get into an airplane and

930
00:44:50,093 --> 00:44:52,533
Speaker 16: try and fly the plane because it just wouldn't go well.

931
00:44:53,173 --> 00:44:58,493
Speaker 16: So anything that, anything that we do, we need training for.

932
00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:01,453
Speaker 16: And we know how to speak to buyers. We know

933
00:45:01,773 --> 00:45:05,173
Speaker 16: the right thing to say to get them interested. You know,

934
00:45:05,293 --> 00:45:09,773
Speaker 16: we have very very different ways of men that and

935
00:45:10,493 --> 00:45:13,853
Speaker 16: people who try and do it themselves they don't understand that.

936
00:45:14,213 --> 00:45:17,773
Speaker 16: So they can actually frighten people away because they might

937
00:45:18,453 --> 00:45:19,413
Speaker 16: tell them what they want.

938
00:45:20,013 --> 00:45:22,453
Speaker 2: You know, often when we start off.

939
00:45:22,413 --> 00:45:26,293
Speaker 16: With a marketing campaign, most vendors want more than the market.

940
00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:31,013
Speaker 16: You know, it's just normal, normal things. So we can

941
00:45:31,213 --> 00:45:33,693
Speaker 16: kind of guide them in the right way to do it.

942
00:45:34,573 --> 00:45:38,133
Speaker 2: Do you think you so you will get them, generally speaking,

943
00:45:39,213 --> 00:45:41,133
Speaker 2: more than they would get for themselves if they were

944
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:43,093
Speaker 2: selling the house someone do it privately? Do you believe

945
00:45:43,173 --> 00:45:46,013
Speaker 2: that a real estate agent, And obviously there's there's qualities

946
00:45:46,053 --> 00:45:48,533
Speaker 2: of real estate agents. I engine there's some that are

947
00:45:48,893 --> 00:45:51,453
Speaker 2: that are useless and some that are brilliant, right, But

948
00:45:51,933 --> 00:45:54,813
Speaker 2: but you know yourself personally, do you believe that you

949
00:45:54,893 --> 00:45:58,053
Speaker 2: would get the client more than they would be able

950
00:45:58,053 --> 00:45:59,693
Speaker 2: to get themselves for the property.

951
00:46:01,493 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 16: I personally believe that, of course, and yes, when people

952
00:46:04,653 --> 00:46:07,293
Speaker 16: are trying to sell it themselves, they believe the opposite.

953
00:46:08,653 --> 00:46:12,413
Speaker 16: I think that we've proven several times that yes, we

954
00:46:12,533 --> 00:46:15,573
Speaker 16: can get more. I'm also an auctioneer, and I know

955
00:46:15,733 --> 00:46:17,853
Speaker 16: that for a fact that there are times when you know,

956
00:46:18,093 --> 00:46:20,933
Speaker 16: I've achieved more for a vendor than we all thought.

957
00:46:21,453 --> 00:46:24,333
Speaker 16: And that's the same even if if it's a private treaty,

958
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:27,613
Speaker 16: because we know how to negotiate. And that's the other

959
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:32,053
Speaker 16: thing that's very important because most people aren't negotiators.

960
00:46:32,133 --> 00:46:33,453
Speaker 5: It depends what they do.

961
00:46:34,333 --> 00:46:37,453
Speaker 16: But unless you're in sales, you don't really understand that

962
00:46:37,693 --> 00:46:38,733
Speaker 16: side of the business.

963
00:46:39,413 --> 00:46:43,213
Speaker 2: Would you generally get more than the commission? You know,

964
00:46:43,413 --> 00:46:44,653
Speaker 2: then the commission it's taken.

965
00:46:44,533 --> 00:46:47,573
Speaker 16: For them, Yes, I think so. I mean, you can't

966
00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:51,693
Speaker 16: guarantee it, but we certainly would get more people involved

967
00:46:51,933 --> 00:46:55,173
Speaker 16: and often might end up with a multi offer. And

968
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:58,053
Speaker 16: that's the market that we have at the moment, which

969
00:46:58,093 --> 00:47:01,292
Speaker 16: is slightly better. And if we get more than one offer,

970
00:47:01,533 --> 00:47:04,933
Speaker 16: we know what to do with that, whereas a vendor

971
00:47:05,093 --> 00:47:07,413
Speaker 16: who's unsure may not.

972
00:47:07,613 --> 00:47:08,733
Speaker 6: Know how to deal with that.

973
00:47:09,053 --> 00:47:11,453
Speaker 17: You know, some people could probably do it perfectly.

974
00:47:11,053 --> 00:47:14,373
Speaker 16: Well, but I know these people that we've just signed

975
00:47:14,453 --> 00:47:17,373
Speaker 16: up didn't want any of that. They didn't want to

976
00:47:17,453 --> 00:47:19,893
Speaker 16: be actually dealing with it, and they decided after a

977
00:47:19,933 --> 00:47:20,693
Speaker 16: couple of weeks it.

978
00:47:20,773 --> 00:47:22,212
Speaker 15: Was just not for them.

979
00:47:22,733 --> 00:47:25,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of hours, isn't there involved

980
00:47:25,413 --> 00:47:27,453
Speaker 2: as well? So that you talk about the commission, but

981
00:47:27,493 --> 00:47:29,893
Speaker 2: there's also the amount of time you'd have to take

982
00:47:29,933 --> 00:47:32,893
Speaker 2: away from whatever you do to make a living to

983
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:37,652
Speaker 2: tell your house, and the stress, the stress and such.

984
00:47:38,893 --> 00:47:42,252
Speaker 16: Absolutely, I mean some properties can sell in a couple

985
00:47:42,333 --> 00:47:45,413
Speaker 16: of weeks, and some can take months and months. And

986
00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:48,453
Speaker 16: that can be hours and hours of open home, lots

987
00:47:48,493 --> 00:47:52,413
Speaker 16: of marketing changes, lots of time spent that a lot

988
00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:55,813
Speaker 16: of people don't understand. They think it's quite easy, whereas

989
00:47:56,093 --> 00:47:59,413
Speaker 16: you know, it's quite a difficult job behind the scene.

990
00:47:59,893 --> 00:48:01,533
Speaker 2: So there's some people you think they could do it,

991
00:48:01,653 --> 00:48:04,973
Speaker 2: but they would be you know, they would be outliers.

992
00:48:05,613 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 2: And most people are going to have a better time

993
00:48:08,133 --> 00:48:10,013
Speaker 2: with the real estate agent in your opinion.

994
00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:14,413
Speaker 16: I think so because you're trusting them with your biggest destines.

995
00:48:14,493 --> 00:48:15,172
Speaker 5: And that's the thing.

996
00:48:15,293 --> 00:48:16,733
Speaker 6: You don't want to mark that up.

997
00:48:17,493 --> 00:48:19,533
Speaker 5: You know, you want to make sure you get the

998
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:20,333
Speaker 5: most for it.

999
00:48:20,453 --> 00:48:23,693
Speaker 16: It's like it's like agents who offer cheaper fees, what

1000
00:48:23,813 --> 00:48:26,053
Speaker 16: are they trying to achieve a quick sale or.

1001
00:48:26,093 --> 00:48:26,813
Speaker 5: A better price?

1002
00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:30,453
Speaker 16: And that's you know, it's more important to have a

1003
00:48:30,613 --> 00:48:32,252
Speaker 16: very good agent who knows what you're doing.

1004
00:48:32,493 --> 00:48:34,813
Speaker 2: But I guess the key is, how do you know

1005
00:48:35,013 --> 00:48:37,253
Speaker 2: that you've got a really good agent? And what advice

1006
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:40,933
Speaker 2: would you give, apart from just going straight to you, Rosie,

1007
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:43,692
Speaker 2: what advice would you give to guarantee that you're going

1008
00:48:43,733 --> 00:48:46,493
Speaker 2: to get a really good agent? And not someone that's rubbish.

1009
00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:50,652
Speaker 16: Well, that's it's a really good question. Just make sure

1010
00:48:50,693 --> 00:48:54,973
Speaker 16: you ask for their sales, ask for their market share

1011
00:48:55,053 --> 00:48:58,253
Speaker 16: of what they sell. You know, how many they've sold recently,

1012
00:48:58,613 --> 00:49:00,973
Speaker 16: What are their credentials? Get them to show you what

1013
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:05,213
Speaker 16: they've been doing so that you can look for yourself,

1014
00:49:05,413 --> 00:49:08,773
Speaker 16: you know, because some people are way better than others. Right,

1015
00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:11,812
Speaker 16: Not all agents are the same. The public probably thinks

1016
00:49:11,893 --> 00:49:12,773
Speaker 16: they are, but they're not.

1017
00:49:13,893 --> 00:49:17,013
Speaker 3: I'll use you, Rosie. You've sold me, Rosie, I'll be

1018
00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:18,692
Speaker 3: giving you a call if I need to sell my home.

1019
00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:21,373
Speaker 5: Excellent, I'd love to do that.

1020
00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:24,733
Speaker 3: Til fantastic the jet with you? Oh e one hundred

1021
00:49:24,733 --> 00:49:26,893
Speaker 3: and eight thanks Rosie. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1022
00:49:27,053 --> 00:49:27,813
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

1023
00:49:27,853 --> 00:49:28,373
Speaker 2: She was great.

1024
00:49:28,893 --> 00:49:30,613
Speaker 3: That was a That was a great saler on why

1025
00:49:30,773 --> 00:49:32,533
Speaker 3: you need to use a good real estate agent. But

1026
00:49:32,653 --> 00:49:34,493
Speaker 3: keen hear from you if you've gone privately. Did it

1027
00:49:34,573 --> 00:49:35,133
Speaker 3: work out well?

1028
00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:38,413
Speaker 2: Was it a nightmare? Really? Keen to hear your thoughts. Yeah,

1029
00:49:38,413 --> 00:49:41,533
Speaker 2: we've got Gary up next, who sold two houses personally. Yeah,

1030
00:49:41,733 --> 00:49:42,733
Speaker 2: see what he thinks about it.

1031
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:50,293
Speaker 3: Nineteen past two, matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call

1032
00:49:50,453 --> 00:49:53,093
Speaker 3: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZV

1033
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:56,013
Speaker 3: for a good afternoon to you. Have you sold privately

1034
00:49:56,773 --> 00:49:58,573
Speaker 3: or do you always go real estate agent? I eight

1035
00:49:58,653 --> 00:50:00,093
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty, So the number.

1036
00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:03,493
Speaker 2: To call Gary, Welcome to the show. That's a problem

1037
00:50:03,533 --> 00:50:06,973
Speaker 2: with the phones. Good, Thank you. You've sold a couple

1038
00:50:07,013 --> 00:50:09,853
Speaker 2: of houses personally, Yeah, you probably.

1039
00:50:09,653 --> 00:50:13,133
Speaker 8: Over the last twelve years. So seld our own home twice?

1040
00:50:13,853 --> 00:50:14,893
Speaker 8: Different houses obviously.

1041
00:50:16,373 --> 00:50:18,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit corrupt if you sell the same

1042
00:50:18,293 --> 00:50:18,853
Speaker 2: house twice.

1043
00:50:21,333 --> 00:50:23,773
Speaker 8: And no, I mean, I don't know if you've been

1044
00:50:23,813 --> 00:50:26,253
Speaker 8: to an open home, but for someone else to sit

1045
00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:30,173
Speaker 8: in your house and say here's the kitchen, here's the lounge, fantastic.

1046
00:50:31,733 --> 00:50:31,933
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1047
00:50:31,933 --> 00:50:33,413
Speaker 8: I don't know why I want to pay thirty to

1048
00:50:33,493 --> 00:50:36,253
Speaker 8: eighty twe hundred grand to have someone else sit in

1049
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,533
Speaker 8: your house and say here's the kitchen.

1050
00:50:38,173 --> 00:50:39,813
Speaker 2: Do you what do you do? Do you mind me

1051
00:50:39,853 --> 00:50:42,013
Speaker 2: asking what you do for a living? Generally speaking?

1052
00:50:42,653 --> 00:50:43,013
Speaker 14: Engineer?

1053
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:44,333
Speaker 2: Right, engineer?

1054
00:50:44,773 --> 00:50:45,173
Speaker 15: So are you?

1055
00:50:45,693 --> 00:50:49,813
Speaker 2: Because Rosie was saying before that there are definitely people

1056
00:50:50,333 --> 00:50:52,053
Speaker 2: that are good at selling their own house and have

1057
00:50:52,213 --> 00:50:54,733
Speaker 2: those skills, but there's a lot of other people that

1058
00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:57,293
Speaker 2: aren't great at the comp you know, you know, I

1059
00:50:57,333 --> 00:51:01,292
Speaker 2: guess the confrontation, the negotiation, and aren't you know, maybe

1060
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:04,933
Speaker 2: great at you know, selling the house and exciting buyers.

1061
00:51:05,013 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 2: But do you think there's something in your personality that

1062
00:51:07,013 --> 00:51:09,893
Speaker 2: makes you able to do that where other people might

1063
00:51:09,973 --> 00:51:11,573
Speaker 2: not be able to No.

1064
00:51:11,613 --> 00:51:13,613
Speaker 8: I think we just got some advice. Like when we

1065
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:17,053
Speaker 8: first started into the process of doing it ourselves. Well,

1066
00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:19,533
Speaker 8: I did sell house beforehand using an agent and sold

1067
00:51:19,573 --> 00:51:21,253
Speaker 8: before it went onto the market, so we paid like

1068
00:51:21,973 --> 00:51:25,813
Speaker 8: forty fifty grand for that didn't even print the bruches.

1069
00:51:25,853 --> 00:51:28,853
Speaker 8: So it's just like, why are we spending this much money?

1070
00:51:28,893 --> 00:51:29,213
Speaker 14: Top thing?

1071
00:51:29,613 --> 00:51:31,493
Speaker 2: And are you sure that you got the best price

1072
00:51:31,613 --> 00:51:32,253
Speaker 2: for your house?

1073
00:51:32,533 --> 00:51:34,373
Speaker 14: The two times and what the agent?

1074
00:51:35,013 --> 00:51:38,253
Speaker 8: We've got a pricing from agents prior, and we've got

1075
00:51:38,333 --> 00:51:41,693
Speaker 8: more than what the agent priced, So I think we

1076
00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:43,493
Speaker 8: don't bet we don't better than what the agent could.

1077
00:51:43,893 --> 00:51:46,173
Speaker 3: The timing would be important as well, Gary, wouldn't it that?

1078
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:49,133
Speaker 3: I take it you're in a pretty hot market from

1079
00:51:49,133 --> 00:51:51,213
Speaker 3: a seller's point of view right now. You've got to

1080
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:54,453
Speaker 3: argue it's a pretty muted environment that for a lot

1081
00:51:54,493 --> 00:51:56,613
Speaker 3: of people that would be you know, the danger there

1082
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 3: is if you try and go privately in your house

1083
00:51:58,293 --> 00:51:59,613
Speaker 3: sits on the market for six months.

1084
00:52:01,293 --> 00:52:05,133
Speaker 8: Yes, but I also think that for the agents, they've

1085
00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:07,653
Speaker 8: got a lot of people that might contact them, and

1086
00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 8: they might have a a large database of the agents

1087
00:52:10,573 --> 00:52:12,933
Speaker 8: they group together and then they've got that advantage of

1088
00:52:13,013 --> 00:52:15,933
Speaker 8: getting more people to the house. On the same on

1089
00:52:16,013 --> 00:52:19,173
Speaker 8: the same argument, if someone's looking for a house in

1090
00:52:19,293 --> 00:52:22,613
Speaker 8: the area and they see a house that they like

1091
00:52:22,693 --> 00:52:24,733
Speaker 8: the good all the things that they tack all their boxes,

1092
00:52:25,013 --> 00:52:26,933
Speaker 8: whether it's an agent or a private sale, and the

1093
00:52:26,973 --> 00:52:30,333
Speaker 8: price is right, they're gonna deal with whoever it is

1094
00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:32,453
Speaker 8: at the house. They don't care for an agent's doing it.

1095
00:52:33,333 --> 00:52:36,093
Speaker 8: How as do all the paperwork? What what do the

1096
00:52:36,213 --> 00:52:36,693
Speaker 8: agents do?

1097
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:39,933
Speaker 2: How many hours do you reckon that you put into

1098
00:52:40,013 --> 00:52:44,773
Speaker 2: selling your your houses? You know that just taking time

1099
00:52:44,853 --> 00:52:45,652
Speaker 2: off your job as an.

1100
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:50,252
Speaker 8: Engineer to because because we we did use the company

1101
00:52:50,293 --> 00:52:51,973
Speaker 8: to print the banners and print all that sort of stuff,

1102
00:52:52,013 --> 00:52:54,053
Speaker 8: so they're still a cost to that. So they've got

1103
00:52:54,093 --> 00:52:56,053
Speaker 8: brochs to hand out. We did the property bag things

1104
00:52:56,053 --> 00:53:00,093
Speaker 8: through the council, so there was we Normally the agents

1105
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:01,933
Speaker 8: will get you to pay for that yourself, but we

1106
00:53:02,213 --> 00:53:05,053
Speaker 8: went into because it's a one off, we can provide

1107
00:53:05,093 --> 00:53:07,053
Speaker 8: that to each person that comes in instead of them

1108
00:53:07,133 --> 00:53:08,973
Speaker 8: having to pay for it. So we did a little

1109
00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:10,533
Speaker 8: bit extra than what what an agent would do.

1110
00:53:12,573 --> 00:53:14,853
Speaker 3: Did you know, did you go deadline, Gary, or you

1111
00:53:15,053 --> 00:53:17,413
Speaker 3: just had a office above a suitin amount?

1112
00:53:18,853 --> 00:53:21,333
Speaker 8: Officers above a suitin amount. We did post by negotiation,

1113
00:53:21,533 --> 00:53:23,373
Speaker 8: which is a little bit of a bit of everything.

1114
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:26,413
Speaker 2: So if you went went for an auction, do you reckon?

1115
00:53:26,453 --> 00:53:28,613
Speaker 2: You'd go as far enough as far as and I

1116
00:53:28,613 --> 00:53:31,093
Speaker 2: don't know if you were even allowed to, but Gary

1117
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:31,652
Speaker 2: getting out.

1118
00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:36,453
Speaker 8: There because I don't I don't have have that school set.

1119
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:36,653
Speaker 7: To do that.

1120
00:53:38,213 --> 00:53:39,093
Speaker 8: To come to.

1121
00:53:41,693 --> 00:53:44,293
Speaker 3: Undred thousand, come once, go to us, come on, get

1122
00:53:44,293 --> 00:53:47,173
Speaker 3: a little bit more nervous and nervous wreck if it

1123
00:53:47,213 --> 00:53:49,573
Speaker 3: came to that, well.

1124
00:53:49,413 --> 00:53:51,413
Speaker 2: I know how nervous I've been on the other side.

1125
00:53:51,213 --> 00:53:54,533
Speaker 8: Of We sold the last house we sold. The first

1126
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:56,692
Speaker 8: person that came through that they were obviously pretty keen.

1127
00:53:57,573 --> 00:53:57,692
Speaker 10: Uh.

1128
00:53:58,893 --> 00:54:01,573
Speaker 8: Within three weeks they came back three times. There were

1129
00:54:01,653 --> 00:54:03,773
Speaker 8: other groups that came through as well, but they ended

1130
00:54:03,853 --> 00:54:05,453
Speaker 8: up buying the house. So the first person that came

1131
00:54:05,493 --> 00:54:06,172
Speaker 8: through bought the house.

1132
00:54:07,373 --> 00:54:09,453
Speaker 2: Were any with an any conditions that you had to

1133
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:12,853
Speaker 2: negotiate with because oftentimes someone goes, I want to buy

1134
00:54:12,893 --> 00:54:15,333
Speaker 2: the house, but I want to have heated tail rails

1135
00:54:15,333 --> 00:54:18,893
Speaker 2: put in every room and in another bathroom, you know

1136
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:19,253
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1137
00:54:19,493 --> 00:54:21,253
Speaker 8: There are a lot of questions that people do put

1138
00:54:21,333 --> 00:54:26,053
Speaker 8: through when we just from the advice that we've got

1139
00:54:26,093 --> 00:54:28,053
Speaker 8: given because this is basically something for the what the

1140
00:54:28,133 --> 00:54:28,573
Speaker 8: agents we.

1141
00:54:28,653 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 14: Would be doing as well.

1142
00:54:29,653 --> 00:54:32,652
Speaker 8: It's just make sure you get a builder's report who

1143
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:36,653
Speaker 8: makes you do your your own work in the background

1144
00:54:36,693 --> 00:54:39,693
Speaker 8: to make sure everything's everything's ticked off that you needed.

1145
00:54:40,093 --> 00:54:42,693
Speaker 8: It's not something that we would go into with with

1146
00:54:42,813 --> 00:54:44,013
Speaker 8: the people that came to the house.

1147
00:54:44,533 --> 00:54:47,573
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, you sound like a very capable person, Gary,

1148
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,133
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not convinced that I would have.

1149
00:54:50,333 --> 00:54:53,573
Speaker 8: What just me what it was the wife, the paperwork

1150
00:54:53,613 --> 00:54:54,093
Speaker 8: in the background.

1151
00:54:54,853 --> 00:54:56,533
Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds like your wife is a very

1152
00:54:56,573 --> 00:54:59,653
Speaker 2: capable person and you've rung up state credit for successful sales.

1153
00:55:02,813 --> 00:55:03,773
Speaker 14: It was all it was all.

1154
00:55:03,893 --> 00:55:05,693
Speaker 2: It was all Gary, according to you. But if we

1155
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:07,613
Speaker 2: talk to your wife, you'd like, Gary didn't do anything.

1156
00:55:07,693 --> 00:55:09,172
Speaker 8: I just talked to the people in the garage when

1157
00:55:09,213 --> 00:55:10,133
Speaker 8: they came through with the beer.

1158
00:55:10,333 --> 00:55:12,773
Speaker 2: You're the brain brainer, Garry spoken like a true engineer.

1159
00:55:13,053 --> 00:55:16,573
Speaker 2: Gary with the openhem was on, Hey, thank you so

1160
00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:17,653
Speaker 2: much for you call Gary.

1161
00:55:17,573 --> 00:55:19,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, great call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1162
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:20,253
Speaker 3: the number to call.

1163
00:55:20,333 --> 00:55:21,813
Speaker 2: So we've had two sides of the coin there. We've

1164
00:55:21,813 --> 00:55:26,213
Speaker 2: had Rosy saying that the real estate agent is absolutely

1165
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:28,692
Speaker 2: imperative for most people. And you've got Gary, and Gary

1166
00:55:28,773 --> 00:55:30,333
Speaker 2: was the type person she was talking about that has

1167
00:55:30,373 --> 00:55:31,133
Speaker 2: the skills.

1168
00:55:30,853 --> 00:55:31,133
Speaker 6: To do it.

1169
00:55:31,213 --> 00:55:33,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, or his wife. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty

1170
00:55:33,653 --> 00:55:36,013
Speaker 3: is the number to call. If you've sold privately, love

1171
00:55:36,053 --> 00:55:37,773
Speaker 3: to hear from you. And if you're a real estate agent,

1172
00:55:37,813 --> 00:55:40,653
Speaker 3: why is it important that people go with you? It

1173
00:55:40,853 --> 00:55:43,773
Speaker 3: is twenty seven past two headlines with Raylene coming up.

1174
00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:50,093
Speaker 4: You's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1175
00:55:50,213 --> 00:55:53,773
Speaker 4: no trouble with a blue bubble. David Seymour's withdrawn an

1176
00:55:53,853 --> 00:55:57,613
Speaker 4: aggrieved letter he sent the un responding to an official's

1177
00:55:57,653 --> 00:56:02,652
Speaker 4: criticism his regulatory Standards bill excluded Mardi traditions. The Prime

1178
00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:05,573
Speaker 4: Minister says any response was up to the Foreign Minister.

1179
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:09,493
Speaker 4: A twenty three year old predator who groomed a thirteen

1180
00:56:09,573 --> 00:56:12,653
Speaker 4: year old and then raped her was on bail awaiting

1181
00:56:12,773 --> 00:56:17,013
Speaker 4: trial for similar offending. He'll be sentenced in December. A

1182
00:56:17,093 --> 00:56:20,573
Speaker 4: person's been seriously injured following a crash on Auckland's Upper

1183
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:24,493
Speaker 4: Harbor Highway. PILLI say the on ramp at Tohinu Road

1184
00:56:24,933 --> 00:56:29,093
Speaker 4: is closed. One lane heading towards Westgate will also be closed.

1185
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:32,653
Speaker 4: A Northland man in his eighties is in a moderate

1186
00:56:32,733 --> 00:56:36,293
Speaker 4: condition and hospital after a mini tornado knocked over his

1187
00:56:36,413 --> 00:56:40,573
Speaker 4: camper van in Kyle, trapping him for an hour. People

1188
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:44,213
Speaker 4: are being asked to report finding any invasive sea spurge

1189
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:48,373
Speaker 4: seaweed whose SAP can cause temporary blindness. It's been seen

1190
00:56:48,413 --> 00:56:52,933
Speaker 4: near Cape Raanga at Spirits Bay. Small business is concerned

1191
00:56:52,973 --> 00:56:56,293
Speaker 4: over access to new investment boost policy. You can read

1192
00:56:56,373 --> 00:57:00,333
Speaker 4: more at enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

1193
00:57:00,093 --> 00:57:03,213
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we've been inundated with

1194
00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:06,613
Speaker 3: phones antiques on this discussion. Selling privately or going with

1195
00:57:06,693 --> 00:57:09,533
Speaker 3: a real estate agent if you've sold private leader love

1196
00:57:09,533 --> 00:57:09,933
Speaker 3: to hear from me.

1197
00:57:09,973 --> 00:57:13,172
Speaker 2: On oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty This Texas says,

1198
00:57:13,213 --> 00:57:15,453
Speaker 2: I've been a real estate agent for thirty years. I'd

1199
00:57:15,573 --> 00:57:19,013
Speaker 2: never sell myself. Family have and they'll never know if

1200
00:57:19,053 --> 00:57:21,453
Speaker 2: they could have got more, as no one can price.

1201
00:57:21,533 --> 00:57:23,613
Speaker 2: You'll never pay as much in fees as you could

1202
00:57:23,693 --> 00:57:27,133
Speaker 2: lose by not negotiating well or auctioning. Yeah, this person

1203
00:57:27,213 --> 00:57:29,773
Speaker 2: says sold two houses privately, just put a ten dollar

1204
00:57:29,813 --> 00:57:32,733
Speaker 2: ever in local paper. That was it sold straight away?

1205
00:57:33,173 --> 00:57:34,653
Speaker 2: I wonder if that was at the peak of the

1206
00:57:34,773 --> 00:57:35,373
Speaker 2: market though.

1207
00:57:35,493 --> 00:57:37,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, timings, everything isn't it when it ends to the

1208
00:57:37,493 --> 00:57:38,293
Speaker 3: housing market.

1209
00:57:38,173 --> 00:57:41,653
Speaker 2: And the advertising isn't the only only thing. Yeah, there

1210
00:57:41,733 --> 00:57:42,613
Speaker 2: is the negotiation.

1211
00:57:43,613 --> 00:57:46,533
Speaker 3: There is you know, countless open homes.

1212
00:57:46,613 --> 00:57:46,853
Speaker 5: Maybe.

1213
00:57:47,253 --> 00:57:51,413
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, Ethan, welcome to the show. You're thinking about selling, Hey.

1214
00:57:51,333 --> 00:57:55,533
Speaker 18: How's it going go? Yeah, thinking about selling. We've sold

1215
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:58,413
Speaker 18: sort of two houses through an agent in the past,

1216
00:57:58,653 --> 00:58:00,853
Speaker 18: and you know, each time sort of twenty twenty five

1217
00:58:00,893 --> 00:58:04,133
Speaker 18: thousand bucks comes out. But my question it's kind of

1218
00:58:04,173 --> 00:58:07,573
Speaker 18: already been answered. I guess in a way, was just

1219
00:58:07,653 --> 00:58:10,453
Speaker 18: kind of like, you know, if we if I went

1220
00:58:10,533 --> 00:58:13,453
Speaker 18: to sell sou the house myself might save twenty you

1221
00:58:13,493 --> 00:58:16,413
Speaker 18: know or whatever, twenty five thousand bucks. But then does

1222
00:58:16,453 --> 00:58:19,733
Speaker 18: that sort of get canceled out by the fact that

1223
00:58:19,933 --> 00:58:22,413
Speaker 18: an agent might sell it for say fifty thousand more.

1224
00:58:22,733 --> 00:58:25,693
Speaker 18: You know, as an example, more than I could. So

1225
00:58:25,893 --> 00:58:27,893
Speaker 18: does that sort of yeah, well they put that out.

1226
00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:31,213
Speaker 2: The agent is incentivized because of the percentage they're taking

1227
00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:34,413
Speaker 2: to get as much as they possibly can for the house,

1228
00:58:34,413 --> 00:58:36,533
Speaker 2: aren't they. That's right, Yeah, that's right.

1229
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:37,253
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1230
00:58:37,453 --> 00:58:41,013
Speaker 2: And also you know how much time have you got

1231
00:58:41,173 --> 00:58:42,013
Speaker 2: to take off work?

1232
00:58:43,213 --> 00:58:43,853
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right.

1233
00:58:43,973 --> 00:58:45,253
Speaker 6: That's the other side of it as well.

1234
00:58:45,613 --> 00:58:47,573
Speaker 18: And I guess as well, they've I mean, they've got

1235
00:58:47,613 --> 00:58:49,933
Speaker 18: the platform and the contacts and stuff that I may

1236
00:58:50,013 --> 00:58:53,533
Speaker 18: not have. You know, me obviously got more more of

1237
00:58:53,613 --> 00:58:54,573
Speaker 18: a reach than I might have.

1238
00:58:54,853 --> 00:58:57,213
Speaker 2: Were you happy with both your sales? Were you happy

1239
00:58:57,293 --> 00:59:00,213
Speaker 2: with the agent and you felt like everything went well

1240
00:59:00,413 --> 00:59:02,373
Speaker 2: or was there some resentment some problems?

1241
00:59:03,933 --> 00:59:04,493
Speaker 19: No, somewhat.

1242
00:59:04,613 --> 00:59:07,333
Speaker 18: No, we had a really really good agent, you know,

1243
00:59:07,773 --> 00:59:10,613
Speaker 18: it's she sort of sold it a little bit, a

1244
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:12,853
Speaker 18: little bit under what she initially told.

1245
00:59:12,733 --> 00:59:14,893
Speaker 8: Us she thought we would get for it.

1246
00:59:15,013 --> 00:59:17,493
Speaker 14: But yeah, we're pretty pretty happy with her.

1247
00:59:18,293 --> 00:59:19,053
Speaker 8: She was really good.

1248
00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:19,533
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1249
00:59:20,093 --> 00:59:22,573
Speaker 3: I mean the thing that, you know, I'd say straight

1250
00:59:22,653 --> 00:59:24,333
Speaker 3: up that I think I'd always use a real estate

1251
00:59:24,653 --> 00:59:26,653
Speaker 3: agent because I couldn't be bothered with the FAF and

1252
00:59:26,853 --> 00:59:29,493
Speaker 3: having to deal with the negotiation. But according to this

1253
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:32,653
Speaker 3: company cotality. This was in the peak of the market,

1254
00:59:32,733 --> 00:59:35,933
Speaker 3: but in twenty twenty one, the median days on market

1255
00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,373
Speaker 3: for agent sales was twenty four days, while it was

1256
00:59:38,453 --> 00:59:40,653
Speaker 3: forty for private sales. And that would make me a

1257
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:42,573
Speaker 3: bit nervous because there's a cost involved in that. If

1258
00:59:42,573 --> 00:59:45,613
Speaker 3: your house is sitting on the market for almost double

1259
00:59:45,693 --> 00:59:47,213
Speaker 3: the time, then that's going to cost you.

1260
00:59:47,293 --> 00:59:47,493
Speaker 5: Wasn't it.

1261
00:59:49,493 --> 00:59:51,133
Speaker 14: Yeah that's right, that's right.

1262
00:59:51,493 --> 00:59:52,893
Speaker 2: Oh well, what do you reckon, ethan, how are you

1263
00:59:52,893 --> 00:59:54,253
Speaker 2: feeling you're going to sell it yourself? You're going to

1264
00:59:54,293 --> 00:59:55,373
Speaker 2: give it a go, you give it a flick.

1265
00:59:55,773 --> 00:59:56,093
Speaker 15: I don't know.

1266
00:59:56,453 --> 00:59:58,493
Speaker 18: Like the other thing is this sort of maybe adds

1267
00:59:58,493 --> 01:00:01,093
Speaker 18: another layer to it. You know, you got things like

1268
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:04,093
Speaker 18: AI and stuff now that you can use to sort

1269
01:00:04,133 --> 01:00:06,693
Speaker 18: of come up with a nice, sort of snazzy description

1270
01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:09,093
Speaker 18: for your house and sort of and walk you through

1271
01:00:09,133 --> 01:00:11,213
Speaker 18: the steps and all the things. I'm a little bit

1272
01:00:11,253 --> 01:00:14,453
Speaker 18: younger probably the most listeners, but there's so much that

1273
01:00:14,613 --> 01:00:17,373
Speaker 18: you can sort of use things like AI for to

1274
01:00:17,493 --> 01:00:21,333
Speaker 18: sort of help help you through the process of you know,

1275
01:00:21,533 --> 01:00:23,213
Speaker 18: selling selling privately.

1276
01:00:23,573 --> 01:00:25,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there's and I don't know.

1277
01:00:25,773 --> 01:00:28,333
Speaker 18: If that's something you anyone's going to talk about today.

1278
01:00:28,373 --> 01:00:31,533
Speaker 18: But yeah, it's definitely something I've thought about. Yeah, I

1279
01:00:31,773 --> 01:00:36,013
Speaker 18: use AI quite a bit and my work and also yeah,

1280
01:00:36,173 --> 01:00:36,933
Speaker 18: just the time.

1281
01:00:37,093 --> 01:00:39,373
Speaker 2: I think figure out what to do with Ethan, I

1282
01:00:39,373 --> 01:00:41,293
Speaker 2: think our bosses might come in and taser us because

1283
01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:43,133
Speaker 2: Tyler and I have talked so much about AI and

1284
01:00:43,173 --> 01:00:46,693
Speaker 2: the show because we find it infinitely interesting, love it.

1285
01:00:47,013 --> 01:00:49,973
Speaker 2: But if we start going to AI will get tasered

1286
01:00:50,013 --> 01:00:55,173
Speaker 2: by the boss. Think if you call Ethan. It's interesting

1287
01:00:55,213 --> 01:00:57,853
Speaker 2: point that's come through. If you're buying privately, you need

1288
01:00:57,933 --> 01:01:01,373
Speaker 2: to be aware that private sellers don't have to disclose issues, leaks,

1289
01:01:01,413 --> 01:01:05,653
Speaker 2: et cetera, whereas agents must disclose under the area obligations.

1290
01:01:06,053 --> 01:01:08,853
Speaker 2: I would never buy privately, says this text A worry.

1291
01:01:09,013 --> 01:01:10,893
Speaker 2: So if you're just selling your house, so if you've

1292
01:01:10,893 --> 01:01:13,613
Speaker 2: got if you're selling a leaker, then you definitely want

1293
01:01:13,653 --> 01:01:15,853
Speaker 2: to sell privately. Yeah, because in a real estate agent,

1294
01:01:15,973 --> 01:01:17,653
Speaker 2: I have to tell people that it's a leaker.

1295
01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:19,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, hoping for a monk to come along and not

1296
01:01:19,373 --> 01:01:21,493
Speaker 3: ask questions. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1297
01:01:21,613 --> 01:01:23,693
Speaker 3: the number to call if you sold privately, Love to

1298
01:01:23,733 --> 01:01:24,893
Speaker 3: have a chat with you. And if you're a real

1299
01:01:25,013 --> 01:01:29,253
Speaker 3: estate agent. Why should people use someone in your profession

1300
01:01:29,293 --> 01:01:31,493
Speaker 3: to sell your home? It is twenty five to three.

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01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:35,453
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty

1302
01:01:35,533 --> 01:01:39,013
Speaker 1: ten eighty Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons used.

1303
01:01:38,853 --> 01:01:42,453
Speaker 3: Talksa'd be very good afternoon. Tuett's twenty two to three.

1304
01:01:42,573 --> 01:01:44,573
Speaker 3: Should you sell your home privately or go with the

1305
01:01:44,613 --> 01:01:45,333
Speaker 3: real estate agent?

1306
01:01:45,613 --> 01:01:48,013
Speaker 2: The Texas says real estate agents there incentivized to sell

1307
01:01:48,013 --> 01:01:50,173
Speaker 2: the house as fast as possible. They would rather sell

1308
01:01:50,253 --> 01:01:52,693
Speaker 2: it in the first seven days for fifty thousand dollars

1309
01:01:52,693 --> 01:01:55,093
Speaker 2: commission rather than have it for sixty days on the

1310
01:01:55,173 --> 01:01:59,093
Speaker 2: market to earn fifty two thousand dollars commission. I mean,

1311
01:01:59,933 --> 01:02:01,613
Speaker 2: how long do you want to on the market? Yeah,

1312
01:02:01,653 --> 01:02:02,693
Speaker 2: another question as well.

1313
01:02:02,653 --> 01:02:06,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I would have thought faster is quite often

1314
01:02:06,493 --> 01:02:08,093
Speaker 3: better for the homeowner. But love to hear from you.

1315
01:02:08,413 --> 01:02:12,013
Speaker 2: Josh, you're a real estate agent, I am. I imagine

1316
01:02:12,053 --> 01:02:13,813
Speaker 2: that your opinion is that real estate agent are the

1317
01:02:13,853 --> 01:02:15,533
Speaker 2: way to go over private sales.

1318
01:02:16,413 --> 01:02:19,653
Speaker 19: Well, there's always two sides of the story. But we're

1319
01:02:19,693 --> 01:02:23,453
Speaker 19: in a really really state market at the moment. It's

1320
01:02:23,493 --> 01:02:25,893
Speaker 19: a buier's market. There's an all a lot of people

1321
01:02:26,013 --> 01:02:29,173
Speaker 19: bailing from their properties due to the fact that my

1322
01:02:29,373 --> 01:02:32,453
Speaker 19: interest rates have really hurt them. There's a lot of

1323
01:02:32,493 --> 01:02:34,453
Speaker 19: people out there at the moment they don't have any

1324
01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:38,013
Speaker 19: equity in their property. It's tragic and it's sad, and

1325
01:02:38,373 --> 01:02:41,893
Speaker 19: quite frankly, I came into this industry because I wanted

1326
01:02:41,973 --> 01:02:45,493
Speaker 19: to make a difference to those vendors and actually marry

1327
01:02:45,613 --> 01:02:48,773
Speaker 19: up the buyer and the seller. And if the bio

1328
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:50,893
Speaker 19: thinks they're paying a tad too much and the vendor

1329
01:02:50,973 --> 01:02:53,653
Speaker 19: thinks they're paying and they're not getting quite enough, you

1330
01:02:53,693 --> 01:02:59,373
Speaker 19: can guarantee that price is about right. But you know, legally,

1331
01:03:00,253 --> 01:03:01,693
Speaker 19: you've got this thing called AML.

1332
01:03:01,813 --> 01:03:04,333
Speaker 6: Do you boys know anything about that AML?

1333
01:03:05,213 --> 01:03:06,133
Speaker 2: Yes, not familiar.

1334
01:03:06,213 --> 01:03:11,613
Speaker 19: Now, okay, it's called anti money laundry. So if you

1335
01:03:11,733 --> 01:03:17,533
Speaker 19: were selling privately, you would have to either go through

1336
01:03:17,533 --> 01:03:21,933
Speaker 19: a lawyer and actually get registered and passed for anti

1337
01:03:21,973 --> 01:03:24,893
Speaker 19: money laundry and may check your passport or your writer's

1338
01:03:24,973 --> 01:03:28,213
Speaker 19: license and check to see that you are who you are.

1339
01:03:28,453 --> 01:03:31,653
Speaker 19: So you've got to pay for that outside of a company.

1340
01:03:31,973 --> 01:03:35,533
Speaker 19: Our company pays for that. So it's all the cautionary

1341
01:03:35,613 --> 01:03:39,773
Speaker 19: stuff post COVID. Look, five years ago, real estate was

1342
01:03:39,853 --> 01:03:42,813
Speaker 19: a wonderful industry to be in because we had bars

1343
01:03:42,893 --> 01:03:47,573
Speaker 19: and sellers. But now with so much competition on out there,

1344
01:03:48,493 --> 01:03:52,573
Speaker 19: it's really important to cut through the noise. Your property.

1345
01:03:52,613 --> 01:03:55,093
Speaker 19: If you want bock dollar has to be presented right.

1346
01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:58,373
Speaker 19: And the three ps that I will always fill my

1347
01:03:58,533 --> 01:04:04,253
Speaker 19: vendors is price, presentation, and position. Now there's the leaver

1348
01:04:04,413 --> 01:04:06,653
Speaker 19: you can't pull, which is positioned, but the other two

1349
01:04:06,773 --> 01:04:11,333
Speaker 19: leavers are priced and presentation. Now, if a buyer comes

1350
01:04:11,453 --> 01:04:15,853
Speaker 19: through five open homes on Saturday, what impression is he

1351
01:04:16,053 --> 01:04:19,613
Speaker 19: going to have? As these people who have been on

1352
01:04:19,693 --> 01:04:23,453
Speaker 19: it's been really interesting listening to their opinion. It's tying

1353
01:04:23,493 --> 01:04:27,253
Speaker 19: to stand their property themselves have prepared their property to

1354
01:04:27,373 --> 01:04:30,853
Speaker 19: stand out from the crout. And if you want top dollar,

1355
01:04:30,893 --> 01:04:32,493
Speaker 19: you're going to have to spend a bit to make

1356
01:04:32,533 --> 01:04:36,293
Speaker 19: a lot. And I run a support back into my

1357
01:04:36,613 --> 01:04:41,053
Speaker 19: business model and I've got painters, some of builders, and

1358
01:04:41,173 --> 01:04:43,413
Speaker 19: if somebody wants to go on the market and have

1359
01:04:43,613 --> 01:04:47,133
Speaker 19: that property market ready, I can turn that round in

1360
01:04:47,253 --> 01:04:51,173
Speaker 19: fourteen working days. And I am pretty jolly sure that

1361
01:04:51,293 --> 01:04:55,173
Speaker 19: I can get a queenium sight in this really competitive market.

1362
01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 19: And having the feedback is really important. To keep in

1363
01:05:00,133 --> 01:05:02,933
Speaker 19: touch with those buyers and ask questions, what did you

1364
01:05:02,973 --> 01:05:05,773
Speaker 19: think of this property, how does it fit with other

1365
01:05:05,853 --> 01:05:09,213
Speaker 19: properties that you've been to over the weekend. Where do

1366
01:05:09,293 --> 01:05:12,653
Speaker 19: you see it with the other properties that you saw

1367
01:05:12,773 --> 01:05:17,213
Speaker 19: post wise? So you're getting sold from these people that

1368
01:05:17,373 --> 01:05:21,653
Speaker 19: are really wanting to find a new homes. So those

1369
01:05:21,693 --> 01:05:25,053
Speaker 19: are just some of the things that a good real

1370
01:05:25,173 --> 01:05:29,573
Speaker 19: estate agent should be asking their buyers. But also what's

1371
01:05:29,653 --> 01:05:33,173
Speaker 19: your vendor's hat on your head? You want to know

1372
01:05:33,493 --> 01:05:36,133
Speaker 19: what's out height you've got. You want to know whether

1373
01:05:36,133 --> 01:05:38,373
Speaker 19: it's good installation top and bottom. You want to know

1374
01:05:38,533 --> 01:05:40,973
Speaker 19: what the piles are doing. You want to know how

1375
01:05:41,053 --> 01:05:42,973
Speaker 19: the gutter's been cleaned out. So these are all the

1376
01:05:43,133 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 19: things that I would ask prior to the property even

1377
01:05:46,573 --> 01:05:49,293
Speaker 19: hitting the market. So when it's ready to go, I

1378
01:05:49,453 --> 01:05:51,733
Speaker 19: know all this information. I can pass it on to

1379
01:05:51,853 --> 01:05:55,533
Speaker 19: my buyer and be informative, so when they leave that property,

1380
01:05:55,693 --> 01:06:00,413
Speaker 19: they've got this fabulous understanding that that house is ready

1381
01:06:00,453 --> 01:06:03,573
Speaker 19: to go. You've gought to disclose if you're on a

1382
01:06:03,653 --> 01:06:07,693
Speaker 19: floodplane that you have to actually in the documentation.

1383
01:06:08,493 --> 01:06:10,573
Speaker 2: If you're doing a private sale, you wouldn't. So from

1384
01:06:10,613 --> 01:06:13,253
Speaker 2: a biased perspective, as we've got a text before from

1385
01:06:13,293 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 2: a from a buyers perspective of someone selling it privately.

1386
01:06:16,653 --> 01:06:19,213
Speaker 2: There's stuff they don't have to disclose because they haven't.

1387
01:06:19,693 --> 01:06:21,333
Speaker 2: They don't they're not under the RAA.

1388
01:06:22,653 --> 01:06:25,013
Speaker 19: But the thing is they could be sued later on.

1389
01:06:25,253 --> 01:06:29,133
Speaker 19: But also the banks are just not happy to lend

1390
01:06:29,893 --> 01:06:33,173
Speaker 19: to money to first time buyers.

1391
01:06:33,293 --> 01:06:33,733
Speaker 20: Particularly.

1392
01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:36,733
Speaker 19: They're particularly hard at the moment. If there's the lim

1393
01:06:36,813 --> 01:06:40,413
Speaker 19: report shows that they're sitting on a floodplain, right, you know,

1394
01:06:40,773 --> 01:06:44,813
Speaker 19: you've just got to be hope air for today because

1395
01:06:44,933 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 19: you can't get insured. And I've had a number of

1396
01:06:47,613 --> 01:06:52,653
Speaker 19: buyers for because the banks won't sort of lend on

1397
01:06:52,853 --> 01:06:57,853
Speaker 19: the issues of a waterplane or uncontented work. Is the

1398
01:06:57,933 --> 01:06:58,493
Speaker 19: other big one.

1399
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,613
Speaker 2: There's two. There's two texts that's come through here. One

1400
01:07:01,693 --> 01:07:05,213
Speaker 2: says she's a classic agent full of bs and the

1401
01:07:05,253 --> 01:07:07,893
Speaker 2: other one says, get her agency and name. She's good.

1402
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:12,453
Speaker 19: So that's exactly what I said about being a real

1403
01:07:12,573 --> 01:07:15,053
Speaker 19: estate agents. Why did I come in the business?

1404
01:07:15,533 --> 01:07:16,173
Speaker 5: So do you go?

1405
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:20,893
Speaker 2: So you've got you you've got price presentation and position?

1406
01:07:21,453 --> 01:07:24,693
Speaker 2: Is that right? Price presentation position? So that replaces location

1407
01:07:24,853 --> 01:07:28,533
Speaker 2: location location unless your price presentation position position.

1408
01:07:28,293 --> 01:07:34,293
Speaker 19: Position ha ha, Yeah, well, it's whatever you want to

1409
01:07:34,373 --> 01:07:36,453
Speaker 19: interepretcause at the end of the day, when you go

1410
01:07:36,653 --> 01:07:39,053
Speaker 19: to the dentist, do you want a competent dentist or

1411
01:07:39,133 --> 01:07:41,213
Speaker 19: you just want some of that thinks they'd like to

1412
01:07:41,253 --> 01:07:42,693
Speaker 19: be a dentist to make some money.

1413
01:07:43,413 --> 01:07:46,333
Speaker 2: Yep, very true. Yeah, there's not a lot of people.

1414
01:07:46,373 --> 01:07:48,693
Speaker 2: I'm not going to a back just a private dentist

1415
01:07:48,773 --> 01:07:51,173
Speaker 2: and mate that says he's up to it. I don't know.

1416
01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:52,253
Speaker 2: Applies are pretty cheap.

1417
01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:56,013
Speaker 3: Eight ten eighty. Oh just quickly, Joe, just one more

1418
01:07:56,133 --> 01:07:58,253
Speaker 3: question for your open homes. Are you one of the

1419
01:07:58,293 --> 01:08:01,213
Speaker 3: agents that that does something a little bit you know,

1420
01:08:01,333 --> 01:08:02,933
Speaker 3: different and a bit special. Do you do the home

1421
01:08:02,973 --> 01:08:05,493
Speaker 3: baking or had some popcorn for people coming through?

1422
01:08:06,213 --> 01:08:09,973
Speaker 19: Well, my last listening which solved before option. All my

1423
01:08:10,133 --> 01:08:14,493
Speaker 19: listenings are with my partner, so either ten days after

1424
01:08:14,813 --> 01:08:17,612
Speaker 19: or before option. And this is in a very busy

1425
01:08:17,693 --> 01:08:22,053
Speaker 19: space in property. Miss things at the moment. But she baked,

1426
01:08:22,333 --> 01:08:24,932
Speaker 19: she actually did the cinnamon rolls and I handed them

1427
01:08:24,933 --> 01:08:26,013
Speaker 19: out Lail got them up.

1428
01:08:27,013 --> 01:08:30,213
Speaker 2: Smart good strategy. Yeah right.

1429
01:08:31,692 --> 01:08:33,253
Speaker 19: You know, at the end of the day, it's all

1430
01:08:33,333 --> 01:08:36,812
Speaker 19: about your passion for that vendor they're paying you and

1431
01:08:36,973 --> 01:08:38,973
Speaker 19: you've got to get the very best results that you

1432
01:08:39,133 --> 01:08:41,372
Speaker 19: can for them. But that's called passion, isn't it.

1433
01:08:41,532 --> 01:08:43,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you go where you've got passion? Yeah, she's

1434
01:08:43,692 --> 01:08:46,532
Speaker 2: a great agent gain. Yeah. Are you convinced by that?

1435
01:08:46,732 --> 01:08:48,213
Speaker 2: Or you people that are about to sell your house

1436
01:08:48,253 --> 01:08:51,612
Speaker 2: privately convinced by that? Or or or have you been

1437
01:08:51,652 --> 01:08:54,093
Speaker 2: successful selling your house privately? In the house and the past.

1438
01:08:54,133 --> 01:08:54,772
Speaker 2: We'll love to hear from you.

1439
01:08:55,013 --> 01:08:58,133
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1440
01:08:58,173 --> 01:09:01,572
Speaker 3: to call. Richard is standing by? I think he sold

1441
01:09:01,652 --> 01:09:02,452
Speaker 3: his home privately?

1442
01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:02,973
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1443
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:04,133
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1444
01:09:04,933 --> 01:09:05,253
Speaker 7: I did?

1445
01:09:05,372 --> 01:09:08,692
Speaker 14: Hey, fellows, mate, And how how did you go?

1446
01:09:08,893 --> 01:09:12,093
Speaker 3: Was it more problems than you expected? Or it went

1447
01:09:12,173 --> 01:09:13,052
Speaker 3: relatively smoothly?

1448
01:09:13,652 --> 01:09:13,812
Speaker 5: Oh?

1449
01:09:14,053 --> 01:09:16,492
Speaker 14: Mate, it like you wouldn't believe it went so well.

1450
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:19,852
Speaker 21: But what had happened is over the years we've we've

1451
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:24,772
Speaker 21: bought and sold six properties and all through agents except

1452
01:09:24,933 --> 01:09:27,333
Speaker 21: for this instance. And it was on a Thursday when

1453
01:09:27,333 --> 01:09:29,692
Speaker 21: I asked one of the agents to come over and

1454
01:09:29,772 --> 01:09:32,532
Speaker 21: give us a quote for this house. So she was

1455
01:09:32,572 --> 01:09:35,012
Speaker 21: due to come over and had to cancel the appointment

1456
01:09:35,093 --> 01:09:38,213
Speaker 21: until Monday. And so I kind of thought, because we've

1457
01:09:38,333 --> 01:09:41,292
Speaker 21: used the same real estate agent for all of our properties,

1458
01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:43,452
Speaker 21: and I kind of.

1459
01:09:43,452 --> 01:09:45,333
Speaker 14: Thought, well, why don't I had a look jumped on

1460
01:09:45,412 --> 01:09:45,772
Speaker 14: to trade me.

1461
01:09:45,812 --> 01:09:47,772
Speaker 21: I had look at some of the properties and then

1462
01:09:47,812 --> 01:09:52,133
Speaker 21: I thought, well, I'll maybe i'll listed, maybe I'll see

1463
01:09:52,133 --> 01:09:54,452
Speaker 21: what happened through this, and I'll catch up with her

1464
01:09:54,492 --> 01:09:58,293
Speaker 21: on Monday. So I did that on a Friday morning,

1465
01:09:58,452 --> 01:10:00,973
Speaker 21: had it listed, and by Friday afternoon I had an

1466
01:10:01,013 --> 01:10:03,333
Speaker 21: appointment for a viewing to come and have a.

1467
01:10:03,333 --> 01:10:05,892
Speaker 14: Look at it. So I kind of thought, okay, yeah,

1468
01:10:05,973 --> 01:10:09,372
Speaker 14: let's get this thing happening. The woman came down from Auckland,

1469
01:10:09,692 --> 01:10:11,133
Speaker 14: had a look, I'll take it.

1470
01:10:12,372 --> 01:10:13,532
Speaker 2: Wow wow?

1471
01:10:13,893 --> 01:10:15,253
Speaker 7: And was that?

1472
01:10:15,933 --> 01:10:15,973
Speaker 5: What?

1473
01:10:16,333 --> 01:10:18,133
Speaker 2: When was this? Was this at the sort of the

1474
01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:19,532
Speaker 2: height of the market situation?

1475
01:10:20,652 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 21: This was definitely a couple of years ago before their

1476
01:10:22,812 --> 01:10:26,053
Speaker 21: money lawn drinking. Because they could do it myself, I'd

1477
01:10:26,173 --> 01:10:28,612
Speaker 21: never done it before, ever done it before. So when

1478
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:31,253
Speaker 21: she was keen to sign up for this property, and

1479
01:10:31,253 --> 01:10:32,213
Speaker 21: I thought, ship, what do I do?

1480
01:10:34,093 --> 01:10:36,053
Speaker 10: So I had to, yeah, what do I do?

1481
01:10:36,213 --> 01:10:37,532
Speaker 7: Because I had to go to.

1482
01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:40,572
Speaker 14: The stationers and get a Salem Pictus agreement.

1483
01:10:42,293 --> 01:10:44,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, heads off to you, Richard, And as

1484
01:10:44,973 --> 01:10:46,133
Speaker 3: you say, you're a bit of a deer in the

1485
01:10:46,173 --> 01:10:48,173
Speaker 3: headlights when you had someone knock on your door and said, yep,

1486
01:10:48,213 --> 01:10:50,173
Speaker 3: I'll take it done, deal and show what do I

1487
01:10:50,253 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 3: do now? But that sounds like it was a prime

1488
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:56,852
Speaker 3: time in the market. Would you say that in today's

1489
01:10:56,893 --> 01:11:00,852
Speaker 3: market that is muted? It would be a hard harder ask.

1490
01:11:01,853 --> 01:11:05,412
Speaker 21: Well, we're looking at we're contemplating selling another property of

1491
01:11:05,532 --> 01:11:09,732
Speaker 21: ours and thinking, okay, so whichaven you should we do.

1492
01:11:10,293 --> 01:11:12,612
Speaker 21: I've listened to a couple of the real estate agents

1493
01:11:12,652 --> 01:11:15,932
Speaker 21: on here and exactly that's exactly right. If you're looking

1494
01:11:16,013 --> 01:11:18,772
Speaker 21: for a professional to provide a particular service, then you

1495
01:11:18,853 --> 01:11:21,812
Speaker 21: would go to them. And that's what we did because

1496
01:11:21,853 --> 01:11:24,372
Speaker 21: we just had enough faith in them that they knew

1497
01:11:24,372 --> 01:11:26,572
Speaker 21: what they were doing. Their network of people or buyers

1498
01:11:27,093 --> 01:11:29,612
Speaker 21: was a lot bigger. This was just an instance where

1499
01:11:30,013 --> 01:11:33,692
Speaker 21: an appointment wasn't happening. Funny thing, the real estate agent

1500
01:11:33,772 --> 01:11:35,293
Speaker 21: rings up on the Monday and I said to her,

1501
01:11:35,372 --> 01:11:36,932
Speaker 21: do you want the good news or the bad news?

1502
01:11:38,893 --> 01:11:41,412
Speaker 21: And she said, to be you sold it, haven't? I said, yeah, mate,

1503
01:11:41,412 --> 01:11:41,652
Speaker 21: we did.

1504
01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:43,053
Speaker 14: We sold.

1505
01:11:43,412 --> 01:11:46,412
Speaker 2: Are you confident Richard that you got the best price

1506
01:11:46,572 --> 01:11:47,572
Speaker 2: because it was the first time?

1507
01:11:48,893 --> 01:11:51,133
Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, we did our due diligence with the sales

1508
01:11:51,213 --> 01:11:54,612
Speaker 21: in the area. We certainly not new to real estate,

1509
01:11:54,732 --> 01:11:58,772
Speaker 21: so definitely the due diligence and everything. I hear about

1510
01:11:58,853 --> 01:12:01,253
Speaker 21: some stories about people selling houses that may have some

1511
01:12:01,572 --> 01:12:02,372
Speaker 21: problems with them.

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01:12:02,652 --> 01:12:05,732
Speaker 14: I would never do that. My conscience wouldn't let me.

1513
01:12:06,612 --> 01:12:08,973
Speaker 14: Just just no way. And when she said, okay, take it.

1514
01:12:08,973 --> 01:12:10,732
Speaker 21: I thought, well, do you not want to get a

1515
01:12:10,772 --> 01:12:11,892
Speaker 21: builder's reports first?

1516
01:12:13,372 --> 01:12:13,772
Speaker 9: Come through it?

1517
01:12:14,253 --> 01:12:16,852
Speaker 21: She said no, And I think it was the type

1518
01:12:16,893 --> 01:12:20,213
Speaker 21: of buyer was such that she was done with looking around.

1519
01:12:20,452 --> 01:12:23,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, it's just a Texas come through Richard.

1520
01:12:23,612 --> 01:12:26,892
Speaker 3: It says, well, imagine if a few more people viewed

1521
01:12:26,933 --> 01:12:28,612
Speaker 3: it and there was competition, you could have got a

1522
01:12:28,652 --> 01:12:29,133
Speaker 3: lot more for it.

1523
01:12:30,093 --> 01:12:33,093
Speaker 21: Oh hey, look, we were, like I said, we're not

1524
01:12:34,492 --> 01:12:36,812
Speaker 21: We're familiar with buying and selling houses, so we're we're

1525
01:12:36,812 --> 01:12:38,973
Speaker 21: happy with what we put the praise down, and we

1526
01:12:39,013 --> 01:12:40,693
Speaker 21: thought it was a wee bit ambitious.

1527
01:12:41,893 --> 01:12:44,052
Speaker 14: Yeah, so we're very happy with our sales.

1528
01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:47,013
Speaker 2: So it wasn't your first rudio. Yeah, yeah, love it.

1529
01:12:47,652 --> 01:12:49,572
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Hey, thank you so much for your call, Richard,

1530
01:12:49,612 --> 01:12:54,372
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Someone's saying here that all New Zealand consumers

1531
01:12:54,452 --> 01:12:58,652
Speaker 2: guarantees at covers any house issues. We'll look into that.

1532
01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:02,093
Speaker 2: So if you're a private seller and you're trying to

1533
01:13:02,173 --> 01:13:03,892
Speaker 2: hide the fact that you're selling a leak or it's

1534
01:13:03,933 --> 01:13:09,773
Speaker 2: on a flood floodplane, then there would likely be I imagine,

1535
01:13:10,013 --> 01:13:11,933
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I'm just speculating here. I

1536
01:13:11,973 --> 01:13:15,652
Speaker 2: would hope that there's some legal recourse for the for

1537
01:13:15,772 --> 01:13:17,812
Speaker 2: the buyer if they buy a house and you didn't

1538
01:13:17,812 --> 01:13:19,093
Speaker 2: tell them it was a leaker and you knew.

1539
01:13:19,412 --> 01:13:21,452
Speaker 3: Well, I've just had a we look and we'll do

1540
01:13:21,572 --> 01:13:24,172
Speaker 3: some more digging into this. But in general, the Consumer

1541
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:27,452
Speaker 3: Guarantees Act does not generally are generally apply to private

1542
01:13:27,532 --> 01:13:29,892
Speaker 3: sales of homes or other private goods. It's like buying

1543
01:13:29,933 --> 01:13:32,093
Speaker 3: a car off trade me. It's buyer beware. So it

1544
01:13:32,173 --> 01:13:34,372
Speaker 3: does make a lot of sense that if you're privately selling,

1545
01:13:34,532 --> 01:13:37,092
Speaker 3: even something as expensive as a house, it's a similar

1546
01:13:37,133 --> 01:13:39,612
Speaker 3: deal to selling a second hand car. Right whoever checks

1547
01:13:39,612 --> 01:13:41,772
Speaker 3: it out, it's got to make sure that it's a okay,

1548
01:13:41,812 --> 01:13:43,452
Speaker 3: You're happy with the price they came. I'm taking a

1549
01:13:43,492 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 3: bit of a risk here.

1550
01:13:44,532 --> 01:13:47,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whereas you know that if you're least you know

1551
01:13:47,732 --> 01:13:49,852
Speaker 2: with the real estate agent that they have to be

1552
01:13:50,093 --> 01:13:51,092
Speaker 2: registered with the area.

1553
01:13:51,293 --> 01:13:54,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it is ten minutes to three. Will take

1554
01:13:54,492 --> 01:13:55,412
Speaker 3: a few more calls.

1555
01:13:55,492 --> 01:13:59,133
Speaker 1: Next the issues that affect you, and a bit of

1556
01:13:59,213 --> 01:14:02,452
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1557
01:14:02,732 --> 01:14:03,693
Speaker 1: news talks.

1558
01:14:03,612 --> 01:14:08,333
Speaker 3: Be seven to three, some really good tech, some phone calls.

1559
01:14:08,812 --> 01:14:11,253
Speaker 3: RUMs whether it's wise to sell privately or go with

1560
01:14:11,372 --> 01:14:12,492
Speaker 3: a in real estate agent.

1561
01:14:12,772 --> 01:14:14,972
Speaker 2: The success Most people get a good outcome from agents,

1562
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:17,732
Speaker 2: but the cost commission in March marketing is huge compared

1563
01:14:17,732 --> 01:14:20,252
Speaker 2: with the UK, where it is about two percent all inclusive.

1564
01:14:20,572 --> 01:14:23,133
Speaker 2: I sold my last house, looked at what house went

1565
01:14:23,213 --> 01:14:25,532
Speaker 2: for in my area, put a hand painted sign on

1566
01:14:25,612 --> 01:14:28,652
Speaker 2: the fence and made a handout which said four beds,

1567
01:14:29,093 --> 01:14:32,333
Speaker 2: one living room, one dining room, one bathroom, four hundred

1568
01:14:32,333 --> 01:14:35,572
Speaker 2: and thirty thousand dollars as is. We're as feel free

1569
01:14:35,612 --> 01:14:37,492
Speaker 2: to get a bull report. But the price is what

1570
01:14:37,652 --> 01:14:42,972
Speaker 2: it is. I mean, you assume it's were is Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1571
01:14:42,973 --> 01:14:45,012
Speaker 2: it's definitely going to be wearers. Yeah, that's a given.

1572
01:14:45,173 --> 01:14:47,652
Speaker 2: That's a given. We're not going to deliver this house

1573
01:14:47,732 --> 01:14:51,053
Speaker 2: to you. It's a bold move though, just a handpainted side.

1574
01:14:51,093 --> 01:14:53,452
Speaker 2: I don't know if assault to the third person that

1575
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,053
Speaker 2: came through. Okay, as is, where as feel free to

1576
01:14:56,053 --> 01:14:57,852
Speaker 2: get a bull report, but the price is what it is.

1577
01:14:58,772 --> 01:15:01,893
Speaker 2: Good on you. I like that, Ben, welcome to the

1578
01:15:01,933 --> 01:15:05,293
Speaker 2: show here. You're going good, says mate.

1579
01:15:06,213 --> 01:15:08,012
Speaker 6: Okay, so the stuff to record.

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01:15:08,333 --> 01:15:08,772
Speaker 13: I am.

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01:15:08,973 --> 01:15:12,213
Speaker 6: My name's Ben Kean. On the former licensed real estate

1582
01:15:12,293 --> 01:15:15,692
Speaker 6: sales present by own a private sale company or fizz

1583
01:15:16,093 --> 01:15:20,772
Speaker 6: Total NZ. We're effectively a startup. We bridgally gat between

1584
01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:24,732
Speaker 6: a normal private sale and what a real estate agent does,

1585
01:15:25,412 --> 01:15:31,333
Speaker 6: leveraging technology. Effectively our service. We do the marketing and

1586
01:15:31,452 --> 01:15:35,333
Speaker 6: the open homes for buyers sort of disella story, and

1587
01:15:35,412 --> 01:15:38,692
Speaker 6: then at the point of interestment, buyers can express their

1588
01:15:38,772 --> 01:15:42,812
Speaker 6: interest directly to the seller through our hat, which behaves

1589
01:15:42,973 --> 01:15:46,932
Speaker 6: like a tradeing auction. Okay if the property. If there's

1590
01:15:47,053 --> 01:15:51,133
Speaker 6: multiple interests for a property, the system will deal with

1591
01:15:51,333 --> 01:15:55,293
Speaker 6: multiple bids, and bids can include conditions, So if you

1592
01:15:55,372 --> 01:15:58,932
Speaker 6: had one party who is subject to a builder's report

1593
01:15:59,053 --> 01:16:01,372
Speaker 6: or a lin report, they can be in the same

1594
01:16:01,452 --> 01:16:06,173
Speaker 6: part with the person who is maybe kes unconditional. Now

1595
01:16:06,572 --> 01:16:09,972
Speaker 6: the dollar valuable bids is in the app and buyers

1596
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:12,692
Speaker 6: can each other on the seller's approval.

1597
01:16:12,973 --> 01:16:16,293
Speaker 2: Are you are you reading this off your.

1598
01:16:18,372 --> 01:16:20,492
Speaker 6: I'm just giving you some I'm giving you some background,

1599
01:16:20,853 --> 01:16:23,173
Speaker 6: just so you know what's available in the market. I mean,

1600
01:16:23,732 --> 01:16:26,093
Speaker 6: I know you guys are sponsored by agents, and that's

1601
01:16:26,133 --> 01:16:28,333
Speaker 6: all good. Now. I'm not knocking agents because I used

1602
01:16:28,372 --> 01:16:31,333
Speaker 6: to be one myself. There are people that can afford

1603
01:16:31,893 --> 01:16:34,772
Speaker 6: there are people that can afford to pay who are

1604
01:16:34,772 --> 01:16:37,093
Speaker 6: happy to pay for agents, and there are people who

1605
01:16:37,133 --> 01:16:39,933
Speaker 6: aren't happy to pay for agents. And we're bridging that

1606
01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:42,732
Speaker 6: gap in the middle. Now. The other thing I will

1607
01:16:42,812 --> 01:16:46,652
Speaker 6: say to point out as well is that we would

1608
01:16:46,652 --> 01:16:51,173
Speaker 6: always recommend that buyers do their own diligence under contract

1609
01:16:51,772 --> 01:16:55,492
Speaker 6: and they get their own report, the only them report

1610
01:16:55,772 --> 01:16:57,973
Speaker 6: in their own US to evaluation if they need it,

1611
01:16:58,652 --> 01:17:03,492
Speaker 6: so they can rely upon their information. It's very all

1612
01:17:04,213 --> 01:17:10,812
Speaker 6: agents are in buyers buyers especially. We're trying to sellers

1613
01:17:10,812 --> 01:17:12,932
Speaker 6: trying to protect themselves, but they're also trying to protect

1614
01:17:12,933 --> 01:17:13,333
Speaker 6: the buyer.

1615
01:17:13,612 --> 01:17:17,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've only got and I'm going to say, we're

1616
01:17:17,173 --> 01:17:20,173
Speaker 3: not sponsored by real estate agents. But and fair enough, like,

1617
01:17:20,253 --> 01:17:22,692
Speaker 3: there's obviously a gap in the market there for your business.

1618
01:17:22,853 --> 01:17:27,012
Speaker 3: But when it comes to negotiation with the potential buyers,

1619
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:30,253
Speaker 3: I imagine that's not something a service that you provide

1620
01:17:30,293 --> 01:17:33,093
Speaker 3: with that business. But fair enough to hate Ben.

1621
01:17:33,213 --> 01:17:33,412
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1622
01:17:33,452 --> 01:17:37,053
Speaker 6: You can't negotiate for buyers, but you've also got to

1623
01:17:37,133 --> 01:17:40,412
Speaker 6: remember that a lot of that stuff can be automated,

1624
01:17:40,772 --> 01:17:45,612
Speaker 6: and you know with AI coming out, there's messive risk

1625
01:17:45,933 --> 01:17:47,452
Speaker 6: to the incumbent industry.

1626
01:17:47,692 --> 01:17:49,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think if you call Ben so we've

1627
01:17:49,213 --> 01:17:51,133
Speaker 3: got to go to the news. Yep, and all the

1628
01:17:51,173 --> 01:17:53,412
Speaker 3: best with that business. Thank you very much to everyone

1629
01:17:53,452 --> 01:17:56,972
Speaker 3: who called and text on that one. Fantastic discussion coming

1630
01:17:57,053 --> 01:17:59,412
Speaker 3: up after three o'clock. Beer bottoms.

1631
01:18:01,772 --> 01:18:05,532
Speaker 1: Your new home are in safeful and entertaining talk. It's

1632
01:18:05,732 --> 01:18:10,253
Speaker 1: Mandy and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sevy.

1633
01:18:10,732 --> 01:18:13,612
Speaker 3: Seven past three. Welcome back into the show. Fantastic they

1634
01:18:13,652 --> 01:18:16,412
Speaker 3: have your company as always, thanks for joining us. Let's

1635
01:18:16,452 --> 01:18:18,692
Speaker 3: have a chat about beer bottoms. You may have seen

1636
01:18:18,732 --> 01:18:21,173
Speaker 3: this advert that's been doing the rounds on TV where

1637
01:18:21,173 --> 01:18:24,652
Speaker 3: a beer bummed skier has clinched a new price. After

1638
01:18:24,732 --> 01:18:27,452
Speaker 3: emerging as the most complained about ad this year, so

1639
01:18:27,532 --> 01:18:30,932
Speaker 3: the ASA received forty eight complaints about the advert in question,

1640
01:18:31,133 --> 01:18:33,612
Speaker 3: focusing on the image of a man's beer bum. Complainers

1641
01:18:33,652 --> 01:18:36,972
Speaker 3: said the bum was clearly visible, it was was indecent, offensive,

1642
01:18:37,133 --> 01:18:40,492
Speaker 3: and inappropriate for young viewers. But the ASA did not

1643
01:18:40,692 --> 01:18:43,652
Speaker 3: uphold any of those complaints. They said, well, the new

1644
01:18:43,812 --> 01:18:45,732
Speaker 3: nudity in the ad was designed to make you look

1645
01:18:45,732 --> 01:18:47,893
Speaker 3: it was not sexualized or likely to cause harm to

1646
01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:48,852
Speaker 3: a general audience.

1647
01:18:49,772 --> 01:18:53,492
Speaker 2: Wasn't sexualized. He sort of bends it, sort of a

1648
01:18:53,612 --> 01:18:56,892
Speaker 2: rakish kind of angle does when he's in the air

1649
01:18:56,973 --> 01:19:02,132
Speaker 2: the scare. It's an interesting question because this would definitely

1650
01:19:02,253 --> 01:19:05,692
Speaker 2: been a problem ten years ago. Yep, you wouldn't have

1651
01:19:05,853 --> 01:19:10,772
Speaker 2: seen a beer bum selling a product, a gambling product

1652
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:13,852
Speaker 2: ten years ago, would you? No, I mean, would you?

1653
01:19:13,973 --> 01:19:15,412
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean there was a lot

1654
01:19:15,412 --> 01:19:17,652
Speaker 2: of controversy about certain ads over the years, the Bugger

1655
01:19:17,692 --> 01:19:20,732
Speaker 2: ad for example. Of course some controversy back then. But

1656
01:19:21,013 --> 01:19:23,893
Speaker 2: there's this concept called the Overton window. You might have

1657
01:19:23,973 --> 01:19:26,333
Speaker 2: heard of it as a model for understanding how ideas

1658
01:19:26,532 --> 01:19:32,053
Speaker 2: move over time. So our ideas start off as unthinkable

1659
01:19:32,093 --> 01:19:34,973
Speaker 2: that were in the time would be absolutely unthinkable that

1660
01:19:35,213 --> 01:19:37,812
Speaker 2: someone would be bearing their buttocks on an ad on

1661
01:19:38,293 --> 01:19:42,372
Speaker 2: terrestrial television, and every single ad break. Then it becomes

1662
01:19:42,532 --> 01:19:45,053
Speaker 2: sort of radical. Then it becomes this is according to

1663
01:19:45,093 --> 01:19:48,932
Speaker 2: the Overton window model of things, becomes successible, sensible, popular,

1664
01:19:48,973 --> 01:19:52,133
Speaker 2: then policy, So then it is just fine for someone

1665
01:19:52,133 --> 01:19:53,732
Speaker 2: to have their bum out and no one's even complaining

1666
01:19:53,772 --> 01:19:56,572
Speaker 2: about it on ads? So you happy for the Overton

1667
01:19:56,652 --> 01:19:59,852
Speaker 2: window of to move to the point now where whilst

1668
01:19:59,853 --> 01:20:04,692
Speaker 2: there was forty two complaints, the Advertising Standards Authority goes nah,

1669
01:20:05,133 --> 01:20:07,532
Speaker 2: is sweet as to have your buttocks out to sell

1670
01:20:07,532 --> 01:20:07,932
Speaker 2: a product?

1671
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:10,692
Speaker 3: Nothing see here? So we can expect maybe a few

1672
01:20:10,732 --> 01:20:13,012
Speaker 3: more adverts to be written up with beerm bums.

1673
01:20:13,213 --> 01:20:15,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, and are you worried where it goes from now?

1674
01:20:16,652 --> 01:20:19,253
Speaker 2: So if the Overton window has moved such that it

1675
01:20:19,412 --> 01:20:21,652
Speaker 2: is acceptable for someone to have their bottom out on

1676
01:20:21,732 --> 01:20:26,852
Speaker 2: an ad, how long until we turn the camera around

1677
01:20:26,973 --> 01:20:29,612
Speaker 2: on that scared Yeah, it's going to happen. How long

1678
01:20:29,772 --> 01:20:35,732
Speaker 2: until it's the full full tackle selling selling your gambling product?

1679
01:20:35,893 --> 01:20:38,813
Speaker 3: Fifteen years, twenty years, It's going to happen at some stage.

1680
01:20:39,173 --> 01:20:39,333
Speaker 22: You know?

1681
01:20:39,452 --> 01:20:41,812
Speaker 2: And and is that how it's going to go? Can

1682
01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,652
Speaker 2: you see a new level of conservatives starting and then

1683
01:20:44,692 --> 01:20:48,452
Speaker 2: because the Overton window can close again, rights things become

1684
01:20:48,612 --> 01:20:52,253
Speaker 2: unacceptable again? You knows. There's definitely words that were fine

1685
01:20:52,372 --> 01:20:56,732
Speaker 2: that then become unfine according to you know, according to

1686
01:20:58,013 --> 01:20:59,333
Speaker 2: you know society as a whole.

1687
01:20:59,492 --> 01:21:01,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when I'd never heard of the Overton

1688
01:21:02,013 --> 01:21:04,812
Speaker 3: window and love that model, but when you spoke talked

1689
01:21:04,812 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 3: of it, I remember that George Carlin seven dirty words,

1690
01:21:08,652 --> 01:21:11,173
Speaker 3: and six of those words we still cannot say on

1691
01:21:11,293 --> 01:21:13,532
Speaker 3: the show, but one we can because I think it

1692
01:21:13,652 --> 01:21:16,772
Speaker 3: started to go through that Overton window model, and that

1693
01:21:16,893 --> 01:21:19,692
Speaker 3: word is shit. That is now more okay to say,

1694
01:21:19,732 --> 01:21:20,852
Speaker 3: study it still raises a.

1695
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:24,013
Speaker 2: How do you feel? And look, we've got to say

1696
01:21:24,053 --> 01:21:26,052
Speaker 2: on news Talk ZIDB, it was my costing that opened

1697
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:30,772
Speaker 2: the Overton window on shit. Yep, and thank God for it.

1698
01:21:31,013 --> 01:21:32,652
Speaker 2: He says it every second word now is a real

1699
01:21:32,692 --> 01:21:34,852
Speaker 2: potty mouth in the morning. Yeah, he puts a ball

1700
01:21:34,933 --> 01:21:38,932
Speaker 2: in front of it. But there'll be people that don't

1701
01:21:38,933 --> 01:21:41,612
Speaker 2: think you should be saying that. Even I was a

1702
01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:46,732
Speaker 2: little bit shocked, and right now I'm I'm penning a

1703
01:21:46,812 --> 01:21:49,572
Speaker 2: pretty angry email to a boss about you dropping that word.

1704
01:21:49,612 --> 01:21:51,732
Speaker 3: It's still in the radical phase, but there'd be definitely

1705
01:21:51,732 --> 01:21:54,173
Speaker 3: a time when that would have been unthinkable on.

1706
01:21:54,213 --> 01:21:57,253
Speaker 2: News Talk ZIDB that someone would use the SHI word,

1707
01:21:57,372 --> 01:22:00,612
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely unthinkable. Does that mean that the the the

1708
01:22:00,812 --> 01:22:04,213
Speaker 2: F words not far off? On my costing breakfast on

1709
01:22:04,293 --> 01:22:04,932
Speaker 2: news talks 'B.

1710
01:22:05,093 --> 01:22:07,612
Speaker 3: We're all waiting for that morning. Eight hundred eighty ten

1711
01:22:07,692 --> 01:22:08,852
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1712
01:22:09,053 --> 01:22:09,732
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1713
01:22:10,253 --> 01:22:12,013
Speaker 3: Do you think the ASA A you got it right

1714
01:22:12,093 --> 01:22:15,013
Speaker 3: in this instance? Do your mind a beer buttocks on

1715
01:22:15,133 --> 01:22:18,612
Speaker 3: your TV screens and the Overton window scenario. Do you

1716
01:22:18,652 --> 01:22:20,333
Speaker 3: think we've gone too far and we need to roll

1717
01:22:20,372 --> 01:22:21,053
Speaker 3: it back a little bit?

1718
01:22:21,293 --> 01:22:27,652
Speaker 2: This Texas says buttocks yes, boobies yes, junk, no good sise.

1719
01:22:27,812 --> 01:22:31,133
Speaker 2: So according to that text, that's where the that's where

1720
01:22:31,173 --> 01:22:33,772
Speaker 2: the Overton windows sits for them. That's the line. Oh

1721
01:22:33,812 --> 01:22:35,892
Speaker 2: at one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1722
01:22:36,013 --> 01:22:37,053
Speaker 2: It is a liver pass through.

1723
01:22:38,372 --> 01:22:40,892
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. So we're talking about the add many

1724
01:22:40,933 --> 01:22:43,572
Speaker 3: people have seen and quite a few have complained about.

1725
01:22:43,612 --> 01:22:47,732
Speaker 3: It's an ad featuring a beer bottom skier, and forty

1726
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:50,412
Speaker 3: eight people have complained about that add to the ASA,

1727
01:22:50,532 --> 01:22:52,492
Speaker 3: the most complained about in twenty twenty five. But the

1728
01:22:52,572 --> 01:22:54,612
Speaker 3: ASA said, nothing to see here, nothing wrong with a

1729
01:22:54,652 --> 01:22:55,572
Speaker 3: beer bum Yeah.

1730
01:22:55,532 --> 01:22:58,492
Speaker 2: And we know it's the lotto ad. We haven't forgotten that,

1731
01:22:58,812 --> 01:23:01,492
Speaker 2: but we just thought we don't necessarily need to give

1732
01:23:01,572 --> 01:23:05,772
Speaker 2: them five hours of like fifty minutes of free advertising. Yeah,

1733
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:07,612
Speaker 2: they're not paying us anything. That's why I said, it's

1734
01:23:07,652 --> 01:23:10,333
Speaker 2: the beer bottom gambling ad. So we don't we all know,

1735
01:23:10,452 --> 01:23:12,732
Speaker 2: we talk about it, this bunge of text saying it's

1736
01:23:12,732 --> 01:23:14,652
Speaker 2: a lot of where do idiots? Yeah, we know, Yeah,

1737
01:23:14,692 --> 01:23:15,893
Speaker 2: we got it, we see it.

1738
01:23:16,253 --> 01:23:16,452
Speaker 15: We know.

1739
01:23:16,732 --> 01:23:18,492
Speaker 2: So you were talking about the Overton windows. So the

1740
01:23:18,532 --> 01:23:22,012
Speaker 2: Overton window has opened to the point that beer bottoms

1741
01:23:22,053 --> 01:23:25,172
Speaker 2: on TV are fine according to the Advertising Standards Authority.

1742
01:23:25,372 --> 01:23:27,812
Speaker 2: So what an interesting time we live in Beth. Welcome

1743
01:23:27,853 --> 01:23:28,333
Speaker 2: to the show.

1744
01:23:29,532 --> 01:23:33,572
Speaker 15: Hello lads. I would like to remind you of the

1745
01:23:33,772 --> 01:23:38,452
Speaker 15: Coppertone ad featuring Jody Foster with the dog pulling down

1746
01:23:38,532 --> 01:23:42,253
Speaker 15: the back of your dogs. In the sixties. We had

1747
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:44,493
Speaker 15: beer bottom ads all through the sixties.

1748
01:23:44,772 --> 01:23:48,213
Speaker 2: That was a little baby, though, wasn't it. Yeah, a

1749
01:23:48,293 --> 01:23:49,132
Speaker 2: baby Jody.

1750
01:23:48,973 --> 01:23:53,012
Speaker 14: Foster, Yes, yeah, but still a beer bum.

1751
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, still a beer bum. But I think And when

1752
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:58,692
Speaker 2: I was a kid, everyone was nude. That was under

1753
01:23:58,772 --> 01:24:01,572
Speaker 2: five running around the streets out in front of my

1754
01:24:01,732 --> 01:24:04,732
Speaker 2: house anyway, because yeah, but you also.

1755
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:06,333
Speaker 15: Had munty prisons flying circus.

1756
01:24:07,293 --> 01:24:08,852
Speaker 3: Very true at nine.

1757
01:24:09,293 --> 01:24:12,612
Speaker 2: That's a very good point. I often think about this Beth,

1758
01:24:12,812 --> 01:24:16,812
Speaker 2: how intensely shocking Monty Python's Flying Circus was in the

1759
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:20,333
Speaker 2: sixth season. They think it was. I've listened. I've listened

1760
01:24:20,333 --> 01:24:22,333
Speaker 2: to to John Cleves talking about it. A lot of

1761
01:24:22,372 --> 01:24:24,692
Speaker 2: these guys that were in charge of the BBC back

1762
01:24:24,772 --> 01:24:27,093
Speaker 2: then we had come out of the war and were

1763
01:24:27,133 --> 01:24:30,932
Speaker 2: basically drunk the whole time dealing with what they were

1764
01:24:31,013 --> 01:24:34,052
Speaker 2: going through, and so he had these sort of upper

1765
01:24:34,093 --> 01:24:36,852
Speaker 2: class drunks just going you went to did you go

1766
01:24:36,973 --> 01:24:41,093
Speaker 2: to good Cambridge boys? That's fine, put it on. But yeah,

1767
01:24:41,093 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: you're so right that I think I feel like the

1768
01:24:43,213 --> 01:24:46,253
Speaker 2: Overton windows shut a bit after Monty Python for a while.

1769
01:24:48,772 --> 01:24:52,692
Speaker 3: Yes, so Beth for you, yeah, sr you go. Yeah,

1770
01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:54,892
Speaker 3: So you don't nothing wrong with a with a bit

1771
01:24:54,973 --> 01:24:56,412
Speaker 3: of chiky bum on an ad.

1772
01:24:57,652 --> 01:25:01,092
Speaker 15: No, I've always stood it stupid that Americans blue.

1773
01:25:03,213 --> 01:25:07,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is odd, But is that the limit for you? Bet?

1774
01:25:07,812 --> 01:25:09,572
Speaker 2: Whats of the camera turned around and we had the

1775
01:25:09,572 --> 01:25:12,213
Speaker 2: front of the skier flying towards us in the nude?

1776
01:25:12,213 --> 01:25:13,692
Speaker 2: Would you would that be all right?

1777
01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:16,173
Speaker 7: Oh?

1778
01:25:16,213 --> 01:25:19,533
Speaker 15: That it might be confront There's nothing.

1779
01:25:19,412 --> 01:25:23,892
Speaker 2: Very it's pretty cold much. You're not going to sell

1780
01:25:23,893 --> 01:25:26,452
Speaker 2: a lot of I mean Overton window or not. That's

1781
01:25:26,492 --> 01:25:27,492
Speaker 2: not going to sell anything.

1782
01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:33,532
Speaker 15: It's why women like the lights out at night.

1783
01:25:35,293 --> 01:25:37,293
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your corp. It's you're great.

1784
01:25:37,372 --> 01:25:40,253
Speaker 2: That is true. Yeah, absolutely, that's I don't know what

1785
01:25:40,333 --> 01:25:40,972
Speaker 2: that's going to sell.

1786
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:44,892
Speaker 3: Ever, some great teaks coming through on nine two ninety two.

1787
01:25:45,333 --> 01:25:47,253
Speaker 2: We'll go to fill first and then some of your

1788
01:25:47,293 --> 01:25:50,852
Speaker 2: text toiler. Yep, Phil a good.

1789
01:25:50,893 --> 01:25:54,732
Speaker 23: Boys, you very good, thank you, excellent, excellent.

1790
01:25:55,013 --> 01:25:55,253
Speaker 6: Look.

1791
01:25:56,013 --> 01:25:57,452
Speaker 23: Oh, I think it's just a bit of fun. I

1792
01:25:57,572 --> 01:25:59,492
Speaker 23: actually love it, and I actually think that's the best

1793
01:25:59,532 --> 01:26:02,093
Speaker 23: part of the ad when he jumps up and they

1794
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:05,132
Speaker 23: show the beer the beer bum and right.

1795
01:26:08,452 --> 01:26:11,372
Speaker 2: Round a bit more of a tan though, couldn't he

1796
01:26:11,412 --> 01:26:12,452
Speaker 2: feel it's pretty pale?

1797
01:26:14,253 --> 01:26:17,093
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's a bit yeah pasty white old boysne you

1798
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:20,973
Speaker 23: could be a bit more European, nice bronze look like.

1799
01:26:22,372 --> 01:26:25,452
Speaker 2: I mean, viewers of One Day Cricket in the eighties

1800
01:26:25,572 --> 01:26:28,133
Speaker 2: saw quite a few beer bums with the streaking Yeah

1801
01:26:28,253 --> 01:26:29,213
Speaker 2: didn't didn't, didn't what.

1802
01:26:30,372 --> 01:26:32,812
Speaker 23: Yet they'd right, you know, and then the cricket bat

1803
01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:33,652
Speaker 23: across the.

1804
01:26:35,933 --> 01:26:37,932
Speaker 6: But he did, he did.

1805
01:26:38,013 --> 01:26:39,612
Speaker 23: But that was the other thing I was going to say, too,

1806
01:26:40,213 --> 01:26:42,893
Speaker 23: is I think the music's fantastic as well, it's just

1807
01:26:43,013 --> 01:26:46,372
Speaker 23: perfect for that shot. But I think I think this

1808
01:26:46,532 --> 01:26:49,933
Speaker 23: goes back to to a bit of the old colonial

1809
01:26:50,213 --> 01:26:54,612
Speaker 23: colonialism English upbringing of an influence of our country. We're

1810
01:26:54,772 --> 01:26:57,933
Speaker 23: very what do they say, what's the word brutish? You know,

1811
01:26:58,812 --> 01:27:00,973
Speaker 23: and yeah, puritanical and that all.

1812
01:27:01,692 --> 01:27:03,333
Speaker 7: No, no, no, cub yourself up.

1813
01:27:03,492 --> 01:27:04,572
Speaker 23: A bit of student show in there.

1814
01:27:04,612 --> 01:27:05,333
Speaker 6: No, that's not good.

1815
01:27:05,612 --> 01:27:08,612
Speaker 23: Whereas you look at Europe and you know, you it's

1816
01:27:08,692 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 23: much more relaxed than free about I suppose nakedness will say,

1817
01:27:15,213 --> 01:27:18,532
Speaker 23: you know, and it's sort of you're not taught to

1818
01:27:18,612 --> 01:27:21,532
Speaker 23: be ashamed of it, you know, and field or goat

1819
01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:23,452
Speaker 23: look or cover your eyes sort of thing. So it's

1820
01:27:23,572 --> 01:27:25,772
Speaker 23: much more natural, you know. I thought it's just a

1821
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:28,652
Speaker 23: natural part, you know. So when it's done, and I

1822
01:27:28,732 --> 01:27:32,412
Speaker 23: think that as done quite tastefully, like you say, probably

1823
01:27:32,492 --> 01:27:36,372
Speaker 23: the just the shot of the beer bombers as okay,

1824
01:27:36,532 --> 01:27:37,692
Speaker 23: like it went all.

1825
01:27:38,452 --> 01:27:40,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you that. Yeah, we went full frontal,

1826
01:27:40,452 --> 01:27:42,692
Speaker 2: as we were saying before, Phill, sorry, a little bit

1827
01:27:42,732 --> 01:27:46,772
Speaker 2: of problem with our phones there. Yeah. I mean this

1828
01:27:46,853 --> 01:27:48,973
Speaker 2: guy says, hey, guys, the pack and say this is

1829
01:27:49,013 --> 01:27:50,892
Speaker 2: Michelle it. She says, hey, the pack and save stick

1830
01:27:50,973 --> 01:27:53,372
Speaker 2: man is getting more risque recently. Have a close look

1831
01:27:53,412 --> 01:27:55,852
Speaker 2: at his anatomy in the recent TV ad Cheers. Is

1832
01:27:55,893 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 2: that right? I haven't seen that, ed I mean, does

1833
01:27:58,093 --> 01:27:59,293
Speaker 2: it matter if it's a cartoon though?

1834
01:28:00,253 --> 01:28:00,372
Speaker 15: Is that?

1835
01:28:01,732 --> 01:28:03,972
Speaker 2: It depends on what the stick in sect. The stick

1836
01:28:04,053 --> 01:28:06,293
Speaker 2: Man hasn't got his business out, has he? Surely not?

1837
01:28:08,732 --> 01:28:08,852
Speaker 5: Uh?

1838
01:28:09,572 --> 01:28:11,652
Speaker 2: Derek, how are you while we find out what's going

1839
01:28:11,692 --> 01:28:12,452
Speaker 2: on with the stick Man?

1840
01:28:13,412 --> 01:28:13,572
Speaker 8: Well?

1841
01:28:13,812 --> 01:28:16,412
Speaker 20: The stick Man, well he was advertising bananas and you

1842
01:28:16,452 --> 01:28:19,213
Speaker 20: had the banana in his hand and I was like, wow,

1843
01:28:20,372 --> 01:28:23,572
Speaker 20: that's that's what that's was about. If you want to

1844
01:28:23,612 --> 01:28:27,092
Speaker 20: listen to anything really inappropriate, go and go on YouTube

1845
01:28:27,253 --> 01:28:30,412
Speaker 20: and check out an old inappropriate things at Rainbow the

1846
01:28:30,612 --> 01:28:32,812
Speaker 20: English program. What they were getting away was back in

1847
01:28:32,893 --> 01:28:36,333
Speaker 20: the seventies and the eighties. Shocking, it'll absolutely shock you.

1848
01:28:37,772 --> 01:28:42,972
Speaker 24: I don't really care about Yeah, no, no, your house

1849
01:28:43,013 --> 01:28:45,213
Speaker 24: tonight will bungo all night long and stuff like this

1850
01:28:45,293 --> 01:28:48,933
Speaker 24: will be bad anyway. The bum thing doesn't worry me.

1851
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:51,692
Speaker 24: There is one effor that really I just want. Can

1852
01:28:51,732 --> 01:28:55,052
Speaker 24: someone clarify you know the TV the one New Zealand

1853
01:28:55,253 --> 01:28:57,812
Speaker 24: or that Edward where the guy's got at Scotland and

1854
01:28:57,893 --> 01:29:00,572
Speaker 24: he's met his mother and you know, his biological mother.

1855
01:29:00,933 --> 01:29:02,532
Speaker 24: And then there's an old fellow sitting there, and all

1856
01:29:02,532 --> 01:29:04,972
Speaker 24: of a sudden he goes, he goes, Oh, the young

1857
01:29:05,053 --> 01:29:06,652
Speaker 24: fellow goes, maybe we can meet dad one day, we

1858
01:29:06,692 --> 01:29:08,852
Speaker 24: can find him. And the old guy's.

1859
01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:12,532
Speaker 6: I have no idea what he's saying. Does he know

1860
01:29:12,612 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 6: what he's saying?

1861
01:29:13,572 --> 01:29:13,612
Speaker 13: No?

1862
01:29:13,973 --> 01:29:16,372
Speaker 2: I know the age you're talking about. It's so long

1863
01:29:16,492 --> 01:29:18,133
Speaker 2: and so punishing. You have you seen it is going?

1864
01:29:18,253 --> 01:29:20,492
Speaker 2: It looks like it drives me crazy. How slowly they

1865
01:29:20,572 --> 01:29:23,213
Speaker 2: moved that story forward. And then they did a bunch

1866
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:25,452
Speaker 2: of other ads where they weren't moving the story forward.

1867
01:29:25,492 --> 01:29:27,053
Speaker 2: So you like, finally I find out what happens, and

1868
01:29:27,053 --> 01:29:28,772
Speaker 2: they're not moving it forward. Have they run out of money?

1869
01:29:28,812 --> 01:29:30,093
Speaker 2: Have they gone bankrupt or something?

1870
01:29:30,133 --> 01:29:32,293
Speaker 3: Because they're trying to be the new anchor family, isn't it?

1871
01:29:32,333 --> 01:29:35,053
Speaker 3: But there's no advancement, just there's no advancement.

1872
01:29:35,173 --> 01:29:36,612
Speaker 2: And now I don't care. I'm out. I don't want to.

1873
01:29:36,612 --> 01:29:38,532
Speaker 2: I don't want to know anything about this guy's family.

1874
01:29:38,612 --> 01:29:41,173
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care. You took to goddamn long

1875
01:29:41,492 --> 01:29:45,013
Speaker 2: and you overplayed the first ad. It's like if you

1876
01:29:45,173 --> 01:29:47,612
Speaker 2: just watched the first three minutes of shortened street four

1877
01:29:47,692 --> 01:29:50,972
Speaker 2: hundred times in a row and never got further along.

1878
01:29:51,253 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, I can't top there. You've said it

1879
01:29:53,492 --> 01:29:54,813
Speaker 3: at all. I agree wholeheardly.

1880
01:29:54,933 --> 01:29:59,172
Speaker 2: It drives me freaking crazy. One good work with the Warriors,

1881
01:29:59,253 --> 01:30:03,452
Speaker 2: but need episode three. Come on now, I'm out. I

1882
01:30:03,452 --> 01:30:06,612
Speaker 2: don't care. I don't care anymore. But you know that

1883
01:30:06,732 --> 01:30:09,133
Speaker 2: the bad news about that rain footage and you look

1884
01:30:09,133 --> 01:30:12,173
Speaker 2: it up online, people will remember that you were do

1885
01:30:12,253 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 2: you know this show Rainbow?

1886
01:30:13,612 --> 01:30:14,253
Speaker 6: No, No, I don't.

1887
01:30:14,772 --> 01:30:22,412
Speaker 2: Well the whole world with the Rainbow. We're not ringing

1888
01:30:22,412 --> 01:30:26,093
Speaker 2: any bells, Jeremy bungle Zippi. Well, anyway, there was this

1889
01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:29,732
Speaker 2: footage that came out of them saying some really really

1890
01:30:29,812 --> 01:30:33,012
Speaker 2: dodgy stuff, right, yeah, very amusing, and I was for years.

1891
01:30:33,053 --> 01:30:35,213
Speaker 2: I thought that's brilliant. But then I found out and

1892
01:30:35,293 --> 01:30:40,293
Speaker 2: this is very devastating. That was what they shot that

1893
01:30:40,372 --> 01:30:42,772
Speaker 2: but for a Christmas party, so it was a kids

1894
01:30:42,812 --> 01:30:44,452
Speaker 2: show and then they thought they all got steamed and

1895
01:30:44,492 --> 01:30:48,253
Speaker 2: thought it was funny to get very sexually explicit work

1896
01:30:48,412 --> 01:30:51,372
Speaker 2: with Rainbow. So disappointing. Oh just look at it out.

1897
01:30:51,372 --> 01:30:54,052
Speaker 2: It's a kids show with puppets. That's amazing. Yeah, two goods,

1898
01:30:54,652 --> 01:31:01,253
Speaker 2: genuinely one hundred Bungle Zippi Zippy from Rainbow. We're gonna

1899
01:31:01,253 --> 01:31:03,692
Speaker 2: have to find that theme so I know all the voices.

1900
01:31:04,013 --> 01:31:07,093
Speaker 3: This is News Talk ZMBO. Eight hundred eighty to eighty

1901
01:31:07,213 --> 01:31:09,133
Speaker 3: is the number to called. Twenty two past three. Plenty

1902
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:11,053
Speaker 3: of calls to get to. If you can't get through,

1903
01:31:11,492 --> 01:31:14,053
Speaker 3: keep trying. But anything wrong with a cheeky bum and

1904
01:31:14,133 --> 01:31:15,772
Speaker 3: a TV advert love to hear from you.

1905
01:31:15,893 --> 01:31:18,492
Speaker 2: Oh goodness. Yeah, the peck and Saves Banana peck and

1906
01:31:18,532 --> 01:31:21,133
Speaker 2: Saves stick Man's Banana is risque, dirty old stick Man.

1907
01:31:25,412 --> 01:31:29,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons Call eighty eight on

1908
01:31:29,893 --> 01:31:32,452
Speaker 1: News Talk zb It is twenty five.

1909
01:31:39,692 --> 01:31:41,452
Speaker 2: And this doesn't mean anything to you, Tyler, You're not

1910
01:31:41,572 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 2: ringing about But.

1911
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:42,492
Speaker 8: I like it.

1912
01:31:43,893 --> 01:31:44,372
Speaker 9: Everyone.

1913
01:31:44,412 --> 01:31:56,253
Speaker 2: I'm going to see it smiling. Remember awesome great theme

1914
01:31:56,293 --> 01:31:57,173
Speaker 2: shows back in the day.

1915
01:31:57,772 --> 01:32:02,452
Speaker 3: I'm just reading, not about the Twangers episode. Yeah, and

1916
01:32:02,973 --> 01:32:05,812
Speaker 3: I love it. It's very risque. Yeah, that would have

1917
01:32:06,572 --> 01:32:07,852
Speaker 3: created some nightmares for kids.

1918
01:32:08,492 --> 01:32:10,852
Speaker 2: Asked some questions. You know the actor Matt Berry yep,

1919
01:32:11,173 --> 01:32:13,452
Speaker 2: fantastic actor from What We Do in the Shadows, the

1920
01:32:13,492 --> 01:32:15,573
Speaker 2: TV show and a bunch of other stuff. He's fantastic.

1921
01:32:16,173 --> 01:32:18,572
Speaker 2: He released he's an incredible musician as well, and he's

1922
01:32:18,652 --> 01:32:22,213
Speaker 2: released an album of British TV show theme tunes.

1923
01:32:22,333 --> 01:32:22,492
Speaker 6: Yep.

1924
01:32:22,692 --> 01:32:24,532
Speaker 2: I just received it on vinyl the other day. It's

1925
01:32:24,532 --> 01:32:26,333
Speaker 2: so good. It's got the rainbow theme on it. He's

1926
01:32:26,372 --> 01:32:27,492
Speaker 2: got a great voice. Matt Berry.

1927
01:32:28,173 --> 01:32:30,013
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of

1928
01:32:30,133 --> 01:32:32,852
Speaker 3: call we are talking about the naked bum air that's

1929
01:32:33,173 --> 01:32:37,692
Speaker 3: got a raft of complaints. Jilly, how are you good?

1930
01:32:37,812 --> 01:32:41,612
Speaker 22: Thank you very much. Guys listen, I think it's a

1931
01:32:41,893 --> 01:32:45,852
Speaker 22: wonderful advert. Look at the that thrill that lady god

1932
01:32:46,532 --> 01:32:50,173
Speaker 22: with the hat, I'd call it ethel Ward say, but

1933
01:32:50,372 --> 01:32:54,172
Speaker 22: she's that's made her day pretty even a year.

1934
01:32:54,412 --> 01:32:56,372
Speaker 2: She's seen the front side of it, has she.

1935
01:32:57,973 --> 01:32:58,093
Speaker 5: Well?

1936
01:32:58,372 --> 01:33:03,013
Speaker 22: Who cares? She should have fit at her age? I

1937
01:33:03,053 --> 01:33:04,732
Speaker 22: would have by now, I would have thought.

1938
01:33:06,133 --> 01:33:06,333
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1939
01:33:06,452 --> 01:33:10,772
Speaker 22: And also the smirk on that other handsome young lad there, Yeah,

1940
01:33:11,053 --> 01:33:12,612
Speaker 22: and he was a joy it too.

1941
01:33:13,452 --> 01:33:15,692
Speaker 2: So in your in your lifetime, did you ever think

1942
01:33:15,732 --> 01:33:18,253
Speaker 2: we'd reach a point in New Zealand advertising where there'd

1943
01:33:18,253 --> 01:33:18,972
Speaker 2: be beer bums?

1944
01:33:20,253 --> 01:33:22,412
Speaker 22: Well, I'll tell you what. If you look at some

1945
01:33:22,612 --> 01:33:25,732
Speaker 22: of the Mary Hackers, I think they look a lot

1946
01:33:26,013 --> 01:33:30,652
Speaker 22: more disgusting than that flicker around there in the snow.

1947
01:33:30,812 --> 01:33:33,532
Speaker 22: And let's hope it snows lots lots more.

1948
01:33:33,652 --> 01:33:40,213
Speaker 2: All right, more naked bums in the snow, but not

1949
01:33:40,372 --> 01:33:44,933
Speaker 2: naked bums in the harker. No, you don't get a

1950
01:33:45,133 --> 01:33:47,973
Speaker 2: naked you don't. I mean, that's that's the thing, isn't it?

1951
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:52,053
Speaker 2: When is it? Because say, if there's how would you say?

1952
01:33:52,612 --> 01:33:56,852
Speaker 2: It only takes one piece of material between the cheeks

1953
01:33:56,973 --> 01:33:58,692
Speaker 2: for it to no longer be a naked bum, which

1954
01:33:58,692 --> 01:34:00,253
Speaker 2: I've always thought is an interesting thing, isn't it.

1955
01:34:00,612 --> 01:34:03,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you blue is one of the other

1956
01:34:03,213 --> 01:34:06,492
Speaker 3: callers mentioned, just the wee, yeah, the wee middle part?

1957
01:34:07,053 --> 01:34:09,092
Speaker 3: Can I say crack on the radio? It's most understed.

1958
01:34:09,293 --> 01:34:10,572
Speaker 2: You can't say crap on the radio.

1959
01:34:10,652 --> 01:34:13,052
Speaker 3: So if you just blur that little bit in the middle,

1960
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:15,213
Speaker 3: then it's a okay. But if you if you see

1961
01:34:15,253 --> 01:34:17,293
Speaker 3: that middle part, then apparently it starts to get a

1962
01:34:17,333 --> 01:34:18,013
Speaker 3: bit inappropriate.

1963
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:19,572
Speaker 2: Oh, people are pointing out I've got it right, So

1964
01:34:19,612 --> 01:34:21,572
Speaker 2: of course it is. It's it's probably because I worked

1965
01:34:21,853 --> 01:34:23,852
Speaker 2: with Jeremy Well so long and he reminds me of

1966
01:34:24,213 --> 01:34:26,213
Speaker 2: Jeffrey from Rainbow By.

1967
01:34:26,333 --> 01:34:32,692
Speaker 3: It's definitely definitely zippy, very good at that zippy. I

1968
01:34:32,853 --> 01:34:34,772
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1969
01:34:34,853 --> 01:34:36,532
Speaker 3: call this. So many texts coming through. We'll get to

1970
01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:37,492
Speaker 3: a few of those shortly.

1971
01:34:38,452 --> 01:34:39,412
Speaker 2: Tim you're not a fan.

1972
01:34:41,532 --> 01:34:44,893
Speaker 8: Well, it just seemed a bit easy at first, Like

1973
01:34:45,053 --> 01:34:47,692
Speaker 8: it's you know, shock job value, isn't it. I guess

1974
01:34:48,412 --> 01:34:51,852
Speaker 8: having said that, you're getting a lot of promotion out

1975
01:34:51,893 --> 01:34:57,333
Speaker 8: of it. Ah, so there's that. I mean, it's not

1976
01:34:57,452 --> 01:34:59,852
Speaker 8: really doesn't bother me that much. I an'tually have a TV,

1977
01:35:00,053 --> 01:35:04,932
Speaker 8: but I've seen it somewhere else. But I'm slippery slow,

1978
01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:08,532
Speaker 8: doesn't it. I mean like you're saying fifteen years the

1979
01:35:08,572 --> 01:35:11,132
Speaker 8: track from now, you know, you might get the return

1980
01:35:11,213 --> 01:35:15,492
Speaker 8: of wing computers, and then you go it's all on.

1981
01:35:15,893 --> 01:35:17,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, where do you go from that point?

1982
01:35:17,973 --> 01:35:20,092
Speaker 3: I suppose it's a lovely turn of phrasing.

1983
01:35:21,933 --> 01:35:23,612
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you know, I don't know whether it's on

1984
01:35:23,692 --> 01:35:25,692
Speaker 8: the list or not, but it'll probably gets put on

1985
01:35:25,772 --> 01:35:26,093
Speaker 8: there now.

1986
01:35:26,772 --> 01:35:27,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

1987
01:35:29,173 --> 01:35:33,293
Speaker 8: You know it's a legitimate business thing. There were how

1988
01:35:33,412 --> 01:35:36,652
Speaker 8: on here waning Asian food market. I don't own it

1989
01:35:36,732 --> 01:35:38,812
Speaker 8: or anything, but so it's out there.

1990
01:35:39,133 --> 01:35:42,372
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I mean if if if it's

1991
01:35:42,412 --> 01:35:44,213
Speaker 2: your name, it's your name, that's very different.

1992
01:35:44,372 --> 01:35:47,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know a lot.

1993
01:35:47,412 --> 01:35:49,253
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what they were doing with this, didn't

1994
01:35:49,253 --> 01:35:51,893
Speaker 2: they They did that. It was it was it was

1995
01:35:52,133 --> 01:35:57,452
Speaker 2: riscuee and and I guarantee they were. They were not

1996
01:35:57,652 --> 01:36:01,492
Speaker 2: at all concerned with the number of complaints forty two.

1997
01:36:01,692 --> 01:36:03,652
Speaker 3: No, would they would be in their hands together.

1998
01:36:03,732 --> 01:36:07,532
Speaker 2: They would have been devastated if there hadn't been complaints

1999
01:36:07,572 --> 01:36:09,572
Speaker 2: about their Yeah, that is job well done from their

2000
01:36:09,612 --> 01:36:11,973
Speaker 2: point of view. Yeah, from from whoever their advertising agency is.

2001
01:36:12,253 --> 01:36:14,052
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to this, but I wonder

2002
01:36:14,053 --> 01:36:16,093
Speaker 3: if it would have got as many complaints if that

2003
01:36:16,213 --> 01:36:19,892
Speaker 3: was a female, female naked bumb doing the jump, whether

2004
01:36:19,973 --> 01:36:24,333
Speaker 3: there be as many complaints or maybe you know, whether

2005
01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:26,773
Speaker 3: there'd be people still saying it's inappropriate.

2006
01:36:27,293 --> 01:36:30,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's nothing. It depends what kind of female

2007
01:36:31,013 --> 01:36:33,692
Speaker 2: bumb it was. Because this guy isn't really you wouldn't

2008
01:36:33,692 --> 01:36:38,973
Speaker 2: say he's a particularly shapely attractive sort of operator, as

2009
01:36:39,093 --> 01:36:39,932
Speaker 2: he's a bit of a battler.

2010
01:36:40,133 --> 01:36:42,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, so its henery cap.

2011
01:36:42,532 --> 01:36:44,333
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting if it was

2012
01:36:44,412 --> 01:36:48,412
Speaker 2: if it was a woman, whether that would be different. Yeah,

2013
01:36:49,173 --> 01:36:52,532
Speaker 2: what if it was a very attractive, shapely woman's buttock? Yeah,

2014
01:36:52,612 --> 01:36:55,213
Speaker 2: but that would be Would that change the whole conversation? Oh,

2015
01:36:55,253 --> 01:36:59,013
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty or conversely, a you know,

2016
01:37:00,692 --> 01:37:01,812
Speaker 2: a battling woman's bump?

2017
01:37:01,973 --> 01:37:02,333
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2018
01:37:03,732 --> 01:37:04,652
Speaker 3: Love to hear your thought.

2019
01:37:04,692 --> 01:37:06,492
Speaker 2: Does that come into the coming to the equation?

2020
01:37:06,612 --> 01:37:08,293
Speaker 3: I don't know, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eight years.

2021
01:37:08,372 --> 01:37:10,412
Speaker 3: The number to call got full boards, But keep trying.

2022
01:37:10,452 --> 01:37:13,213
Speaker 3: If you can't get through, it is bang on habas.

2023
01:37:12,973 --> 01:37:19,253
Speaker 4: Three jus talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis

2024
01:37:19,452 --> 01:37:22,932
Speaker 4: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. David Seymour claims

2025
01:37:22,973 --> 01:37:26,613
Speaker 4: the Government agrees with his letter to the UN now withdrawn,

2026
01:37:27,093 --> 01:37:31,092
Speaker 4: objecting to a UN official's concerns about his Regulatory standards

2027
01:37:31,133 --> 01:37:34,812
Speaker 4: bill's impact on MARDI. The Foreign Minister will send an

2028
01:37:34,853 --> 01:37:40,253
Speaker 4: official response. Hastings Old Watties building being demolished on Coventry

2029
01:37:40,412 --> 01:37:43,492
Speaker 4: Road has gone up in flames, with a plastic tank

2030
01:37:43,572 --> 01:37:48,133
Speaker 4: and cladding catching fire. Howthenz And Police are investigating a

2031
01:37:48,213 --> 01:37:51,612
Speaker 4: cannabis cake being taken to a shared admin's staff lunch

2032
01:37:51,933 --> 01:37:55,372
Speaker 4: at Hawkes Bay Hospital in June which meant two staff

2033
01:37:55,452 --> 01:37:59,932
Speaker 4: needed ed treatment. A person seriously injured after a crash

2034
01:38:00,013 --> 01:38:03,853
Speaker 4: on Auckland's Upper Harbor Highway one lane and the Tohenu

2035
01:38:04,013 --> 01:38:08,813
Speaker 4: Road on ramp is closed. The government's asking for feedback

2036
01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:13,132
Speaker 4: on its fuel Resilience Plan, which focuses on resilience, domestic

2037
01:38:13,253 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 4: infrastructure and low carbon alternatives. Also security. Nelson Tasman is

2038
01:38:19,372 --> 01:38:23,372
Speaker 4: shifting towards flood recovery for the second time in three weeks.

2039
01:38:23,772 --> 01:38:26,572
Speaker 4: The full week a recovery period will begin on Thursday,

2040
01:38:27,013 --> 01:38:31,692
Speaker 4: unless extended or ended before then. While Lean Lawson's if

2041
01:38:31,772 --> 01:38:35,053
Speaker 4: one Future is about more than just results see the

2042
01:38:35,133 --> 01:38:37,532
Speaker 4: full column it ends in here. All premium back to

2043
01:38:37,612 --> 01:38:38,772
Speaker 4: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2044
01:38:38,853 --> 01:38:41,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we're talking about this

2045
01:38:41,253 --> 01:38:44,012
Speaker 3: ad and we don't need to name the business. Everybody

2046
01:38:44,093 --> 01:38:45,492
Speaker 3: knows what it is, but we don't want to give

2047
01:38:45,532 --> 01:38:48,372
Speaker 3: them any more free advertised bos. We are in a

2048
01:38:48,452 --> 01:38:51,053
Speaker 3: way talking about this, but anyway do they advertise with us. No,

2049
01:38:51,213 --> 01:38:52,213
Speaker 3: they don't give us any money.

2050
01:38:52,293 --> 01:38:54,013
Speaker 2: They don't, they don't off up, they don't. Yeah, if

2051
01:38:54,013 --> 01:38:55,572
Speaker 2: you want you want to, you know, take more than

2052
01:38:55,572 --> 01:38:58,253
Speaker 2: a be a bum for us to mention you know, yeah, exactly.

2053
01:38:58,372 --> 01:39:01,093
Speaker 2: But anyway, we're talking about the Overton Window. It's an ad.

2054
01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:06,892
Speaker 2: It's a lot of ed for it's a beer bum

2055
01:39:07,013 --> 01:39:09,093
Speaker 2: skiing ad you've probably seen. But we're talking about the

2056
01:39:09,133 --> 01:39:11,572
Speaker 2: Overton Window, which is a model for understanding how ideas

2057
01:39:11,732 --> 01:39:18,572
Speaker 2: move from unthinkable to standard, unthinkable, radical acceptable obviously, judging

2058
01:39:18,652 --> 01:39:21,732
Speaker 2: by the ruling from the Advertising Standards Association to the

2059
01:39:21,772 --> 01:39:25,492
Speaker 2: forty two complaints that beer bum is now acceptable and

2060
01:39:25,612 --> 01:39:28,093
Speaker 2: added and used to be years ago, but it is now.

2061
01:39:28,572 --> 01:39:30,452
Speaker 2: But what do you think about it? Lynn says, I'd

2062
01:39:30,492 --> 01:39:32,973
Speaker 2: have no complaints if it was Tom Cruise's bum, that

2063
01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:37,053
Speaker 2: Battler's bum, I might complain about the Cruise has got

2064
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:40,692
Speaker 2: a really nice but this guy in the ad, it's

2065
01:39:40,732 --> 01:39:43,812
Speaker 2: getting a lot of pushback on his backside and people

2066
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:46,452
Speaker 2: are saying because there was nothing attractive about the man.

2067
01:39:47,293 --> 01:39:50,772
Speaker 2: The ad is not sexualized. It's more silly, if you

2068
01:39:50,853 --> 01:39:51,492
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying.

2069
01:39:51,612 --> 01:39:53,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how that poor fellows feel And he

2070
01:39:53,372 --> 01:39:55,293
Speaker 3: could have done a few more lunges before that recording.

2071
01:39:55,333 --> 01:39:57,253
Speaker 2: Though. Just go to the pool of the beach Lads

2072
01:39:57,293 --> 01:39:59,093
Speaker 2: any day in the summer and you will see many

2073
01:39:59,133 --> 01:40:01,812
Speaker 2: a naked female bottom the micro bikini leaves nothing to

2074
01:40:01,853 --> 01:40:02,533
Speaker 2: the imagination.

2075
01:40:03,372 --> 01:40:05,732
Speaker 3: That's probably not a good idea. Don't go down to

2076
01:40:05,772 --> 01:40:08,893
Speaker 3: the pool and do that, Yeah, down to the No,

2077
01:40:09,173 --> 01:40:11,133
Speaker 3: don't go down to the pool frame. Don't go down

2078
01:40:11,173 --> 01:40:12,412
Speaker 3: to the pool expressly for that.

2079
01:40:12,572 --> 01:40:15,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you go down for swimming. Yet, ironically,

2080
01:40:15,732 --> 01:40:17,372
Speaker 2: it used to be far more common to see women's

2081
01:40:17,452 --> 01:40:20,852
Speaker 2: breasts and men's appendages and movies that weren't necessarily are

2082
01:40:21,372 --> 01:40:26,612
Speaker 2: right back in the day. Yeah, I mean in Jaws,

2083
01:40:26,652 --> 01:40:31,412
Speaker 2: which came out fifty years ago, there is woman's breasts

2084
01:40:31,572 --> 01:40:33,372
Speaker 2: at the start of the movie. That is there. Yeah,

2085
01:40:33,492 --> 01:40:36,253
Speaker 2: and that was just a PG back in the day. Yeahs,

2086
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:39,412
Speaker 2: some ways we've become more risky. In some ways we've

2087
01:40:39,452 --> 01:40:42,012
Speaker 2: become less risky over time. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

2088
01:40:42,013 --> 01:40:47,452
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call Rob you like it, Hi,

2089
01:40:47,772 --> 01:40:48,412
Speaker 2: I'm just.

2090
01:40:48,492 --> 01:40:55,532
Speaker 17: Going to talk about standards. There was a program, it

2091
01:40:55,612 --> 01:41:01,533
Speaker 17: was a Kiddy's cartoon back in the seventies called Captain Pugwash.

2092
01:41:01,772 --> 01:41:04,652
Speaker 14: Oh, yeah, that's right if you have ever heard about that.

2093
01:41:04,812 --> 01:41:07,132
Speaker 2: But I heard I've heard about the double on tendres

2094
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:08,532
Speaker 2: that were rife on that show.

2095
01:41:09,973 --> 01:41:15,293
Speaker 17: Well, it wasn't double on Taunderers really because they had

2096
01:41:15,452 --> 01:41:19,212
Speaker 17: one person that was called Mas Debates.

2097
01:41:19,732 --> 01:41:24,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then they do that's a double.

2098
01:41:24,093 --> 01:41:27,532
Speaker 17: Entire Okay, yeah, I guess you could call them double

2099
01:41:27,572 --> 01:41:31,693
Speaker 17: on Taundres. But and Roger the cabin.

2100
01:41:31,452 --> 01:41:34,732
Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah yeah, I mean they definitely knew what they

2101
01:41:34,732 --> 01:41:37,053
Speaker 2: were up to on Keptna bug wathingtdon't they And that

2102
01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:39,492
Speaker 2: was I guess that was an example of making the

2103
01:41:39,572 --> 01:41:41,892
Speaker 2: mums and dads laugh so they could they could handle

2104
01:41:41,973 --> 01:41:45,612
Speaker 2: watching the Punishing Kids show. Meanwhile, all of that went

2105
01:41:45,652 --> 01:41:47,973
Speaker 2: over the head of the kids, and there's a bit

2106
01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:51,013
Speaker 2: of there's a bit of that still happens to this day.

2107
01:41:51,173 --> 01:41:52,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean The Simpsons has got a lot of

2108
01:41:52,692 --> 01:41:55,333
Speaker 3: in your window in it, very clever in your window.

2109
01:41:55,452 --> 01:41:58,652
Speaker 3: But then I was talking asking you about the sitcom

2110
01:41:58,732 --> 01:42:01,852
Speaker 3: Are You Being Served? And clearly a massive amount of

2111
01:42:01,893 --> 01:42:04,492
Speaker 3: inn window in that particular program that would have gone

2112
01:42:04,532 --> 01:42:06,412
Speaker 3: over the head of kids, but all the all the

2113
01:42:06,893 --> 01:42:08,612
Speaker 3: adults watching knew what they were talking about.

2114
01:42:08,893 --> 01:42:13,732
Speaker 2: Missus Slocum's yeah cat yeah, absolutely Are You Being Served?

2115
01:42:13,853 --> 01:42:17,172
Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah. Also a theme for song on Matt Berry's

2116
01:42:17,893 --> 01:42:21,053
Speaker 2: Themes from British television show album that I Got Tim

2117
01:42:21,173 --> 01:42:22,412
Speaker 2: You Think standards are slipping.

2118
01:42:24,173 --> 01:42:27,972
Speaker 10: Well, I just want to like the Overton window theory

2119
01:42:28,093 --> 01:42:33,253
Speaker 10: as a whole. As the window gets bigger or wider,

2120
01:42:34,253 --> 01:42:37,852
Speaker 10: that essentially means that the standards, our standards are going down.

2121
01:42:37,772 --> 01:42:38,133
Speaker 6: Doesn't it.

2122
01:42:39,412 --> 01:42:42,612
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean it depends which way you look

2123
01:42:42,652 --> 01:42:46,173
Speaker 2: at it, because sometimes it can be politically things that

2124
01:42:46,492 --> 01:42:49,652
Speaker 2: were you know, it can it can open up to

2125
01:42:49,732 --> 01:42:54,652
Speaker 2: things like say, for example, the you know, gay marriage

2126
01:42:54,652 --> 01:42:58,013
Speaker 2: for example, at one point that was considered completely unthinkable

2127
01:42:58,293 --> 01:43:01,012
Speaker 2: and radical, and then it became acceptable. So you could say,

2128
01:43:01,333 --> 01:43:03,452
Speaker 2: depending on your point of view, either that is making

2129
01:43:03,532 --> 01:43:05,652
Speaker 2: things better or worse. If you see what I'm saying, Tim,

2130
01:43:07,293 --> 01:43:07,532
Speaker 2: I do.

2131
01:43:08,652 --> 01:43:10,893
Speaker 10: Just so just going back to where you started with,

2132
01:43:11,253 --> 01:43:16,092
Speaker 10: like your language on radio, saying the eastward on radio,

2133
01:43:18,333 --> 01:43:22,052
Speaker 10: like you say, ten maybe five years ago, that would

2134
01:43:22,053 --> 01:43:25,612
Speaker 10: be completely unheard of. And I mean I'm a young

2135
01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:29,053
Speaker 10: Feran of myself, but I've got two young kids who

2136
01:43:29,732 --> 01:43:32,412
Speaker 10: you know, in ten years time, is that going to

2137
01:43:32,452 --> 01:43:35,452
Speaker 10: be the normal for my ten year old to be

2138
01:43:35,572 --> 01:43:38,812
Speaker 10: walking around the house whearing it is lomb and dead.

2139
01:43:38,893 --> 01:43:40,972
Speaker 10: Because the Overian window has shifted.

2140
01:43:42,253 --> 01:43:45,852
Speaker 2: The Ovarian windows a different thing. But yeah, the Overton window, Yeah.

2141
01:43:48,612 --> 01:43:53,532
Speaker 10: The Overton the window. So if you take it a

2142
01:43:53,652 --> 01:43:59,133
Speaker 10: step further, as as the standards of little things like

2143
01:43:59,372 --> 01:44:03,412
Speaker 10: language slips, what would be called you know it it

2144
01:44:03,572 --> 01:44:09,492
Speaker 10: slip further down. What else gets dragged into that? So yeah,

2145
01:44:09,772 --> 01:44:12,652
Speaker 10: it could reflect on like the way you dress or

2146
01:44:12,692 --> 01:44:15,973
Speaker 10: the way you act, or and it becomes harder to

2147
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Speaker 10: bring your your children back into line because it becomes

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Speaker 10: the norm. So you know, you don't want your kids

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01:44:23,412 --> 01:44:24,852
Speaker 10: walking around saying the East word.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's really interesting to him because I

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01:44:28,253 --> 01:44:30,732
Speaker 2: was thought I'd be quite a liberal parent in that regard,

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01:44:30,853 --> 01:44:33,532
Speaker 2: but then when I had kids, I just never swore

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01:44:33,572 --> 01:44:35,372
Speaker 2: in front of them and never allowed them to swear.

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01:44:35,412 --> 01:44:39,173
Speaker 2: It just seems it just seemed wrong, and it was strange,

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01:44:39,572 --> 01:44:42,133
Speaker 2: strange conservative. It was a strange, you know, all the

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01:44:42,372 --> 01:44:45,012
Speaker 2: terrible things I've done on television and such over the years,

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01:44:45,333 --> 01:44:48,612
Speaker 2: I was surprised how conservative I was. And then when

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01:44:48,652 --> 01:44:50,652
Speaker 2: my son said the other day, or you've started swearing,

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01:44:50,732 --> 01:44:52,412
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, yeah, you're sixteen now, so

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01:44:53,692 --> 01:44:57,372
Speaker 2: I'll swear in front of me now, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:44:57,452 --> 01:45:04,052
Speaker 10: So as that Overton window changes and that becomes more prolific,

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01:45:04,372 --> 01:45:08,612
Speaker 10: and like the media, our children have been exploded said

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01:45:08,612 --> 01:45:11,933
Speaker 10: that more and more, and so it makes it impossible

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01:45:12,053 --> 01:45:15,652
Speaker 10: to be parent from that point of view. You know,

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01:45:15,973 --> 01:45:19,133
Speaker 10: you can't really you can't tell them off because it's

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01:45:19,173 --> 01:45:20,652
Speaker 10: on TV or it's on the radio.

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01:45:20,772 --> 01:45:23,293
Speaker 2: I mean, so what do you think of renegades like

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01:45:23,372 --> 01:45:25,572
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking that are using the east word on on

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01:45:25,732 --> 01:45:27,692
Speaker 2: breakfast radio in the morning. Do you think you think

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01:45:27,732 --> 01:45:30,052
Speaker 2: that should be the line? You think Mike should stop?

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01:45:30,372 --> 01:45:33,172
Speaker 10: I mean, like I might, I might be in the minority,

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01:45:33,253 --> 01:45:35,013
Speaker 10: but I don't. I don't think it needs to be

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01:45:35,133 --> 01:45:41,093
Speaker 10: on radio. That's just my opinion, not like you say,

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01:45:41,133 --> 01:45:44,092
Speaker 10: it's five years ago, you wouldn't have heard it anywhere

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01:45:44,612 --> 01:45:48,372
Speaker 10: alone on ZB or on TV one. I mean they're

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01:45:48,372 --> 01:45:49,973
Speaker 10: saying the seaword and parliament there.

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01:45:50,372 --> 01:45:55,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You never would have thought that that

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01:45:55,253 --> 01:45:58,253
Speaker 2: from the nineteen seventies or eighties. Would you ever have

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01:45:58,293 --> 01:45:59,173
Speaker 2: thought that would have happened?

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01:45:59,253 --> 01:45:59,532
Speaker 5: It was that.

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01:45:59,652 --> 01:46:00,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a moment.

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01:46:01,093 --> 01:46:03,532
Speaker 10: No, And so that like it does it makes you

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01:46:03,612 --> 01:46:07,093
Speaker 10: wonder like if it's hapning now and ten years time,

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01:46:07,253 --> 01:46:09,812
Speaker 10: when when my my ket is going to be thirteen

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01:46:09,933 --> 01:46:14,173
Speaker 10: years old, where's the language going to be set and

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01:46:14,612 --> 01:46:16,772
Speaker 10: where do you where do you put where do you

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01:46:16,893 --> 01:46:17,733
Speaker 10: lay the boundaries?

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01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:20,372
Speaker 3: But but does that Yeah, I get what you're saying

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01:46:20,412 --> 01:46:21,652
Speaker 3: to me, and a lot of people would agree with you,

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01:46:21,812 --> 01:46:24,612
Speaker 3: But does it? So say the the s H I

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01:46:24,732 --> 01:46:26,973
Speaker 3: T and the more it's used and the more it

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01:46:27,093 --> 01:46:30,772
Speaker 3: becomes acceptable, it takes away that naughty taboo power of

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01:46:30,853 --> 01:46:33,253
Speaker 3: that particular word. And I just out of interest, how

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01:46:33,293 --> 01:46:35,932
Speaker 3: to look back at words that were considered a very

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01:46:36,013 --> 01:46:40,493
Speaker 3: offensive a couple hundred years ago. Gosh, g golly, diagnamic,

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01:46:40,612 --> 01:46:43,492
Speaker 3: drat and cripes they were seen as highly offensive and

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01:46:43,612 --> 01:46:45,732
Speaker 3: now you'd be seen as a ned Flanders if you

2198
01:46:45,812 --> 01:46:46,612
Speaker 3: say those things.

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01:46:46,772 --> 01:46:47,572
Speaker 2: So you see what I'm.

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01:46:47,492 --> 01:46:50,133
Speaker 3: Getting at that that you know, And and granted I'm

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Speaker 3: with you on the sea word. I think that's a

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01:46:51,652 --> 01:46:54,013
Speaker 3: horrendous word. But there may become a time where that

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01:46:54,173 --> 01:46:57,213
Speaker 3: power is lost and people do not take you anymore.

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01:46:57,333 --> 01:46:58,692
Speaker 2: Where do you go? We need to have we need

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01:46:58,772 --> 01:47:01,972
Speaker 2: to keep some words as the words that we use

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01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:05,333
Speaker 2: in extreme circumstances. Yeah, and again very fair point.

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01:47:05,492 --> 01:47:09,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I just think one thing kind of

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01:47:09,333 --> 01:47:11,452
Speaker 10: leads to another. And if you let the standards slip

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Speaker 10: on the likes of your language, and I don't have

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01:47:15,572 --> 01:47:19,173
Speaker 10: a problem with your ad itself. But you know, once

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01:47:19,253 --> 01:47:22,173
Speaker 10: you start slipping standard of language, then it's a lot

2212
01:47:22,213 --> 01:47:23,813
Speaker 10: easier to flip your standards.

2213
01:47:23,452 --> 01:47:24,132
Speaker 5: Of your behavior.

2214
01:47:24,293 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 10: And yeah, it's where you know, that's where your crime

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01:47:27,333 --> 01:47:28,133
Speaker 10: rates come from too.

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01:47:28,253 --> 01:47:30,013
Speaker 2: You know, how old are you? Do you mind me

2217
01:47:30,053 --> 01:47:31,133
Speaker 2: asking Tim how old you are?

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01:47:31,213 --> 01:47:31,253
Speaker 6: You?

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01:47:31,933 --> 01:47:32,453
Speaker 13: Three?

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01:47:32,612 --> 01:47:33,452
Speaker 2: Thirty three year.

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01:47:34,053 --> 01:47:36,372
Speaker 10: I've got I've got a three year old and an

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01:47:36,412 --> 01:47:37,093
Speaker 10: eight month old.

2223
01:47:37,293 --> 01:47:39,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're you're, you're you're a young man and

2224
01:47:40,812 --> 01:47:43,372
Speaker 2: you've got you've got conservative values on this. It's an

2225
01:47:43,412 --> 01:47:45,652
Speaker 2: interesting Thank you so much for sharing your chat. I

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01:47:45,732 --> 01:47:46,852
Speaker 2: appreciate your call time.

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01:47:46,853 --> 01:47:49,812
Speaker 3: It's great, really interesting. Right, we're going to play some messages,

2228
01:47:49,853 --> 01:47:51,133
Speaker 3: but plenty of calls to get to.

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01:47:51,253 --> 01:47:51,452
Speaker 5: I w e.

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01:47:51,452 --> 01:47:53,253
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number if

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01:47:53,293 --> 01:47:54,812
Speaker 3: you want to have a chat about the beer bums

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01:47:54,853 --> 01:47:55,732
Speaker 3: and standard slipping.

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01:47:55,893 --> 01:47:58,652
Speaker 2: So we're saying, in terms of the Overton window, same

2234
01:47:58,692 --> 01:48:01,452
Speaker 2: sex marriage was one that people would never have thought about,

2235
01:48:01,532 --> 01:48:04,133
Speaker 2: and then I think nearly everyone would agree is a

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01:48:04,213 --> 01:48:07,013
Speaker 2: positive thing that that the Overton window opened up to

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01:48:07,093 --> 01:48:11,013
Speaker 2: allow that, Yep, marijuana legislation. There was a time in

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01:48:11,053 --> 01:48:12,933
Speaker 2: New Zealand where you wouldn't even consider out it. Now

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01:48:12,973 --> 01:48:16,772
Speaker 2: we've got medical marijuana, so the and that window is

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01:48:16,812 --> 01:48:19,812
Speaker 2: opening up if you're talking about policy, that's opening up

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01:48:19,812 --> 01:48:21,732
Speaker 2: around psilocybin as well.

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01:48:21,812 --> 01:48:26,093
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, so things change absolutely. It is sixteen to

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01:48:26,133 --> 01:48:27,333
Speaker 3: four back very shortly.

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01:48:28,133 --> 01:48:32,372
Speaker 1: A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons.

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01:48:32,612 --> 01:48:36,173
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talks.

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01:48:36,732 --> 01:48:40,972
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, tiar It is thirteen to four. Plenty

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01:48:41,013 --> 01:48:43,213
Speaker 3: of good techs coming through on nine two ninety two,

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01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:45,013
Speaker 3: and plenty of calls as well, and we want to

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01:48:45,013 --> 01:48:46,892
Speaker 3: have a check to you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:48:46,933 --> 01:48:49,372
Speaker 3: It's on the back of the beer buttocks ads that

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01:48:49,452 --> 01:48:51,572
Speaker 3: has got a lot of complaints, but the Advertising Standard

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01:48:51,572 --> 01:48:54,212
Speaker 3: Authority seares it's not inappropriate and it's aokay.

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01:48:54,333 --> 01:48:56,812
Speaker 2: And speaking of the Overton window, how over time attitudes

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01:48:56,893 --> 01:48:59,452
Speaker 2: changed towards things and you, as we said, been saying

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01:48:59,732 --> 01:49:02,053
Speaker 2: beer buttocks wouldn't have been a big thing and advertising

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01:49:02,213 --> 01:49:05,852
Speaker 2: even ten years ago. Hi, guys, Danny Watson was in

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01:49:05,973 --> 01:49:09,372
Speaker 2: your slot. It's the past, that's true. Yeah, And if

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01:49:09,412 --> 01:49:12,253
Speaker 2: anyone swore more than two or maybe three times after

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01:49:12,293 --> 01:49:15,333
Speaker 2: he gave them a warning they were dumped. He hated

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01:49:15,372 --> 01:49:16,452
Speaker 2: it all right? Is that true?

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01:49:16,893 --> 01:49:19,532
Speaker 3: Oh the red card? Andrew was saying, because the producer

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01:49:19,652 --> 01:49:22,253
Speaker 3: was producing Danny Watson the red card the car.

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01:49:22,853 --> 01:49:25,333
Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't sound that sounds like quite a wide

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01:49:25,333 --> 01:49:28,293
Speaker 2: Overton window two or maybe three times it de means

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01:49:28,333 --> 01:49:29,932
Speaker 2: what the swear word is. He was quite a potty

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01:49:29,973 --> 01:49:33,732
Speaker 2: mouth off here, though, wouldn't he. No, Yeah, no he was,

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01:49:33,973 --> 01:49:35,852
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I remember working with him when he

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01:49:35,893 --> 01:49:37,933
Speaker 2: was a builder, before he was on radio, because of

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01:49:38,013 --> 01:49:40,412
Speaker 2: course he started off on what Now, didn't I played

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01:49:40,452 --> 01:49:42,492
Speaker 2: a character on TV show that was a tribute to

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01:49:42,572 --> 01:49:44,492
Speaker 2: Danny Watson, which is I think it's quite interesting that

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01:49:44,532 --> 01:49:46,412
Speaker 2: I've ended up doing the same slot as he did

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01:49:46,492 --> 01:49:49,052
Speaker 2: on NEWSTI z be because a character called Danny Parker

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01:49:49,093 --> 01:49:51,692
Speaker 2: that I played on a television show called Back of

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01:49:51,692 --> 01:49:53,812
Speaker 2: the Wire, which was a tribute to Danny Watson and

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01:49:53,933 --> 01:49:58,732
Speaker 2: Steve Parker. So good, full circle, Welcome to the show, Peter,

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01:49:59,933 --> 01:50:00,652
Speaker 2: Yeah good eight.

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01:50:03,173 --> 01:50:05,692
Speaker 3: Yeah good, make good? And what's your take on on bars?

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01:50:07,213 --> 01:50:09,972
Speaker 25: Just say about the I don't not not worry about

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01:50:09,973 --> 01:50:12,572
Speaker 25: the lot of ad, but I just wanted to know

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01:50:12,692 --> 01:50:14,693
Speaker 25: if he was familiar with the brotown.

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01:50:15,333 --> 01:50:16,452
Speaker 14: I guess from New Zealand.

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01:50:16,652 --> 01:50:21,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I love them in Morning Side, whether that's

2284
01:50:22,053 --> 01:50:22,612
Speaker 2: in Brotown.

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01:50:22,772 --> 01:50:25,772
Speaker 25: Yeah, there's quite a few innuendos that were on in

2286
01:50:25,893 --> 01:50:27,812
Speaker 25: that series, and I'm not sure if you were aware,

2287
01:50:27,853 --> 01:50:31,092
Speaker 25: but one of them was called the Mad Crack Liquors Dairy.

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01:50:32,652 --> 01:50:35,173
Speaker 25: I think that it's been around New Zealand for quite

2289
01:50:35,213 --> 01:50:36,692
Speaker 25: some time, this type of thing.

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01:50:37,293 --> 01:50:40,932
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the thing is that's a comedy show. It's

2291
01:50:41,053 --> 01:50:44,492
Speaker 2: interesting for me because I think TV shows, you know,

2292
01:50:44,612 --> 01:50:48,452
Speaker 2: the bits between the ads, you kind of expect them

2293
01:50:48,492 --> 01:50:50,932
Speaker 2: to push things a little bit further than the ads.

2294
01:50:51,093 --> 01:50:57,893
Speaker 2: There's sort of been for whatever reason, higher standard and advertising.

2295
01:50:58,093 --> 01:50:58,293
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2296
01:50:58,572 --> 01:51:00,612
Speaker 2: Then then in the shows, right.

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01:51:00,692 --> 01:51:03,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get more license because those TV shows are

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01:51:03,333 --> 01:51:05,772
Speaker 3: classified and they put on at a certain time. But

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01:51:05,853 --> 01:51:09,932
Speaker 3: the adverts, you can't really classify individual adverts, right, You've

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01:51:09,973 --> 01:51:12,412
Speaker 3: got to let them all play when they want to play,

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01:51:12,732 --> 01:51:14,893
Speaker 3: and the ASA is there to make sure that the

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01:51:14,973 --> 01:51:17,133
Speaker 3: standards are upheld and in this case they're okay with

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01:51:17,213 --> 01:51:17,692
Speaker 3: bear bumps.

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01:51:18,053 --> 01:51:18,253
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:51:18,492 --> 01:51:21,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go, Julie, welcome to the show.

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01:51:22,652 --> 01:51:26,412
Speaker 26: Hi, And I've got some neighbors that are still there

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01:51:26,412 --> 01:51:30,652
Speaker 26: and there with the which they weren't but the kids

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01:51:30,732 --> 01:51:34,732
Speaker 26: were just into primary school age, and they used to

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01:51:34,812 --> 01:51:37,652
Speaker 26: work around, walk around the yard and saying you know

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01:51:37,772 --> 01:51:40,253
Speaker 26: what with the if word this and if we're that.

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01:51:41,213 --> 01:51:44,253
Speaker 26: So I got totally freed up with it this particular day.

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01:51:44,933 --> 01:51:47,052
Speaker 26: And I've got a big dog in his nose water.

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01:51:47,812 --> 01:51:49,893
Speaker 26: So this particular day I end out there and I

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01:51:49,933 --> 01:51:52,412
Speaker 26: said they were if first, and if that I yelled

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01:51:52,412 --> 01:51:54,692
Speaker 26: at and the lad was, hey, water, the eff is

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01:51:54,692 --> 01:51:57,812
Speaker 26: the here already? And the place just with dead silence?

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01:51:59,293 --> 01:51:59,412
Speaker 7: Right?

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01:52:00,293 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 3: And so what did Well to do in that instance?

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01:52:02,612 --> 01:52:04,452
Speaker 3: I suppose Walter's a good boy and he didn't. He

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01:52:04,492 --> 01:52:05,732
Speaker 3: didn't really go for these children.

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01:52:06,692 --> 01:52:10,133
Speaker 26: No, no, it's name, it's not well, his name is

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01:52:10,213 --> 01:52:10,732
Speaker 26: not Walter.

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01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:11,692
Speaker 4: It was.

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01:52:13,853 --> 01:52:14,053
Speaker 5: Bother.

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01:52:14,293 --> 01:52:15,012
Speaker 22: It was a dog.

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01:52:15,293 --> 01:52:15,492
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:52:16,133 --> 01:52:18,692
Speaker 3: And so for you, Julie, you think what standards are slipping?

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01:52:18,812 --> 01:52:20,972
Speaker 3: Not just on adverts but everywhere.

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01:52:22,692 --> 01:52:25,612
Speaker 26: I'd say so because I mean, I mean I've said

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01:52:25,652 --> 01:52:29,772
Speaker 26: that word mystself and this and a great juries A

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01:52:29,853 --> 01:52:31,612
Speaker 26: silly guy did a YouTube in front of it, and

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01:52:31,692 --> 01:52:36,333
Speaker 26: I newly hit him, but I called him more than

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01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:40,053
Speaker 26: a here anyway. But it definitely is slipping. I mean,

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01:52:40,452 --> 01:52:42,692
Speaker 26: these kids were only just going to school and they

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01:52:42,732 --> 01:52:43,652
Speaker 26: were using that word.

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01:52:44,053 --> 01:52:47,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shocking, Julie. It is shocking, shocking. I mean,

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01:52:47,372 --> 01:52:50,852
Speaker 2: bring back the wooden spoon. It's many of a wooden

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01:52:50,893 --> 01:52:53,612
Speaker 2: spoon broken on my beer bum. I've got to say, really, yeah,

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01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:55,893
Speaker 2: Mum loved it. Well, I don't know she loved it,

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01:52:56,053 --> 01:52:58,732
Speaker 2: but no, she would have been this. This is going

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01:52:58,812 --> 01:53:00,973
Speaker 2: to hurt me more than it hurts you, don't. I

2342
01:53:00,973 --> 01:53:04,652
Speaker 2: don't know why I say some of that loved it.

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01:53:04,772 --> 01:53:07,692
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry mom. She wake up in the morning

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01:53:07,732 --> 01:53:10,133
Speaker 2: to go. Hope I can an opportunity to whack to

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01:53:10,213 --> 01:53:12,293
Speaker 2: Tyler with the wooden spoon today had a hell of

2346
01:53:12,293 --> 01:53:16,452
Speaker 2: an arm. I absolutely love it. All right. It is

2347
01:53:17,133 --> 01:53:18,333
Speaker 2: eight minutes to four.

2348
01:53:19,293 --> 01:53:21,333
Speaker 3: We'll wrap this up very shortly, but we've got to

2349
01:53:21,333 --> 01:53:23,652
Speaker 3: play some messages picked free shortly. Here you're listening to

2350
01:53:23,692 --> 01:53:24,533
Speaker 3: Matton Tyler.

2351
01:53:25,492 --> 01:53:28,852
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2352
01:53:29,213 --> 01:53:32,972
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons used

2353
01:53:33,013 --> 01:53:35,173
Speaker 1: dogs edb us dogs edb.

2354
01:53:35,572 --> 01:53:37,933
Speaker 2: It is five to four. We've been talking about the

2355
01:53:37,973 --> 01:53:40,452
Speaker 2: Overton window and how it's opened up to the point

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01:53:40,532 --> 01:53:45,293
Speaker 2: where a beer bum on a TV ad is apparently fine.

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01:53:46,053 --> 01:53:48,253
Speaker 2: The six says no naked skis for TV ads as

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01:53:48,293 --> 01:53:52,293
Speaker 2: children are watching at the time. That would damage someone's childhood.

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01:53:52,772 --> 01:53:55,133
Speaker 2: I mean, how fragile is your childhood? Of beer bum

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01:53:55,173 --> 01:53:57,492
Speaker 2: would damage it on a TV ad. The skiing ad

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Speaker 2: has done tastefully. The best part is the grins from

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Speaker 2: the two guys on the slopes. That's from Lorna. Hi,

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. It's a bit like togs Togs Undies undies. Now,

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Speaker 2: that was a great ad. It's okay to beer butts

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Speaker 2: and a whole lot more on Love Island, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: but not on Lotto ad. What's the difference? Where's the line?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good text, Yeah, and great discussion. Thank you very much

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Speaker 3: everyone who called and phoned on that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And now thank you all we great

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders for listening to the show. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for all your calls and texts. We've had a great

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Speaker 2: time chatting the Mett and Tyler. Afternoon's podcast will be

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Speaker 2: out in about an hour. So if you missed our

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Speaker 2: chats on whether or not you should sell your house

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Speaker 2: without using a real estate agent, or are today's hons

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Speaker 2: any worse than the bogans of old, then follow our

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Speaker 2: podcast where you get your podcasts. The great and powerful

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridges up next, standing in for Heather. But right now, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: why am I playing the song from Queen?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What a choice? What a choice? Queen?

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Speaker 3: Fat bottom girls? Best feller in the advert?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't a girl? But was it a fat bottom? Was

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Speaker 2: it a type buttocks? You wouldn't say it was a

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Speaker 2: type buttock? But I think it'll be a different story

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Speaker 2: if it'll be named fat bottom girl that was on

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Speaker 2: the skis, wouldn't it. I think it would have been

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Speaker 2: would have got a lot more complaints.

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Speaker 13: Maybe.

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Speaker 2: Thank you once again for today. Yeah, thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: to everyone, See you tomorrow. Until then, give them a

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Speaker 2: taste of Kiwi from us. Love you, Love you, June,

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Speaker 2: Mattie and Tyler Adams.

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