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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matt and Tyl

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two, Seben one for the twenty

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Speaker 2: first of January. A lot going on today. There's weather

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Speaker 2: events up north. We go live to some flooded houses

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Speaker 2: later in the show. That's pretty pretty scary stuff had

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Speaker 2: me on prending up. There some interesting gambling stories as well.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get to I know, we got to everything.

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Speaker 2: We got to everything, and then some punishing vine chat.

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Speaker 3: Morning glory chat. Yeah, yeah it's not what you think, yep.

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Speaker 2: Listen anyway, got to tell you what the chat about

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Speaker 2: the election date that got announced during our show November seventh,

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Speaker 2: that went off piece fight up, yeah, fighted up audience

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Speaker 2: and we love it. Yeah yeah, thanks tuning.

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Speaker 2: Alright, love you.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said, be very good afternoons. You welcome into Wednesday show.

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Speaker 3: Hope you're staying safe and dry wherever you are in

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Speaker 3: the country obviously red rain warnings and with the watchers

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Speaker 3: in Northland, bard plenty Corrimantal looking pretty full on and

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Speaker 3: we will of course bring you the latest on that

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Speaker 3: as the afternoon progresses.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe out there, and that includes my two sons

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Speaker 2: that are camping up north at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But you've text text one of the boys and said

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Speaker 3: he's staying safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I said before, I text my son, he's

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Speaker 2: staying safe, and his response was typically teenage boy. Yep,

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Speaker 2: you guys okay up there? Yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: That's a great sign. That's all you need to hear.

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Speaker 2: He's fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, now, before we get onto the show today, you

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Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday that you're going deep and being asleep, champion,

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Speaker 3: and you've got all these little nick knacks that you're

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Speaker 3: operating on a nightly basis, that you're attached to your

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Speaker 3: face and I asked for a photo and you did

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Speaker 3: me the courtesy. While Tracy, actually your lovely partner, took

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Speaker 3: a snap and sent it to me last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she finds it terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and oh mate, I knew it was going to

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Speaker 3: be punishing, but this takes the cake. So let me

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Speaker 3: trying to explain it. So you've got the do not

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Speaker 3: disturb sleep masks the New Zealand War one. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: can get that. That looks amazing, That looks comfortable, fits

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Speaker 3: like a glove. Then you've got the air plugs. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's pretty common. A lot of people have the air plugs.

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Speaker 3: Then you've got some sort of plaster over your nose.

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Speaker 2: What's going on there, mate, No, you look like Nelly.

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Speaker 2: That's a special nasal opener. So it opens up your nostrils.

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Speaker 2: You get more in air and through your nose.

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Speaker 3: The one that takes the cake, though, is it's this

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Speaker 3: mouth tape. I thought it was just a bit of

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Speaker 2: Of It's the better sleep mouth tape that I've put

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Speaker 2: of my mouth. So you're making sure you get oxygen up.

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Speaker 2: You're keeping the light out with the with the you

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Speaker 2: know the better, the do not disturbed face masks, keeping

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Speaker 2: And look, you may laugh at me, and I do,

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Speaker 2: And actually if you want to laugh at me, you

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Speaker 2: can go to matt Heath and Z on Instagram. I've

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Speaker 2: if you want to go and check that out at

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Speaker 2: matt Heath in Zen, it might be an inspiration to you.

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Speaker 2: But sleep is the most important part of the day.

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Speaker 2: It sets you up and everything all health starts with sleep,

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Speaker 2: all all mood and well being, and everything starts with sleep.

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Speaker 2: If you're going out on an adventure, you take the

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Speaker 2: tools you need to go on the adventure, and sleep

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Speaker 2: sleep state because you're slightly worried you might be attacked

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Speaker 2: your mouth. It is a I cannot recommend this craziness more.

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Speaker 2: At one point, my partner, Tracy, she turned off her

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Speaker 2: She said, it's like sleeping with a corpse. It's terrible,

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Speaker 2: We didn't help the sleep. That would raise the art right,

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Speaker 2: but part part from that, it's a very successful way

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Speaker 3: It's bloody great, sounds good, mate, And all you got

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Speaker 2: But I would say true to form.

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Speaker 3: When you sent that through, and I sent through what

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Speaker 3: say what a beautiful sleep. I was out like a light.

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half hours later, I woke up to

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Speaker 3: You do you man? Right to today's show after three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we want to actually have a chat about AI plant apps.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that they work, because I think there's

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Speaker 2: apparently tells you exactly what your plant needs to survive. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the app? But ai plant apps are they working? As

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Speaker 2: someone said, the best ai plant app is just taking

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Speaker 3: Right, that makes a lot of sense. But looking forward

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Speaker 3: to that are for just napalm the whole house? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just rounded up. That's after three o'clock. After two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: There are calls for tougher gambling regulations to prevent relapse,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gambling is one of those addictions that I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I understand drug addiction because I had a terrible prescription

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love a drink. Who doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But the gambling one, I've never quite fully understand how

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Speaker 2: It's so counter to logic. You know the house is

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Speaker 2: clear for everyone to see. Yeah, and you know some

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty four. That's unreal as so thirty billion dollars

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Speaker 3: It's a crazy amount of money. But like you're saying, look,

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Speaker 3: I think many people listening right now would know friends

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk about gambling addiction. Are you

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Speaker 3: Yep, looking forward to that after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the election. The date has

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Speaker 3: been set. Prime Minster Christopher Luxen announced just an hour

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Speaker 3: ago that this year's election is going to be held

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Speaker 3: on the seventh of November. That is, of course a Saturday,

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Speaker 3: and a few days after, of course.

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Speaker 2: A Saturday, like everyone would know, Well, it's always on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday. Yeah, you can't have an election day on

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love when that happens. Doesn't have an offer,

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Speaker 2: I thought you were saying, of course that's a Saturday,

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Speaker 2: because everyone knows all the Saturday to me in with

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Speaker 3: Makes sense, Yeah, on the Saturday, on the seventh of November.

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Speaker 3: But it was what was predicted. But it is an

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Speaker 3: interesting selection. I mean that was there was a big

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Speaker 3: prelude before he made that announcement. It was going to

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Speaker 3: be the seventh of November. Some of some other pundits

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Speaker 3: have indicated that that could play well for National because

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Speaker 3: it's a good lead up. But keen to hear from

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Speaker 3: you eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Yeah, so do

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Speaker 3: you think this is a good date? Who will it

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Speaker 3: favor being that deep into the year.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, as Ryan Bridge was saying the other day,

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Speaker 2: he could have done a he could have done a

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Speaker 2: sort of clever innovative thing and laid the gorton down

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Speaker 2: and shoved it in July or something. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: take the opposition of guard. What was Rob Maldoon's It

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Speaker 2: doesn't prepare ever.

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Speaker 3: It's very good, mate, very good.

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Speaker 2: The Schnaps election, Yeah, you know, should have you gone earlier?

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Speaker 2: And are you looking forward to a year of electioneering?

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Speaker 2: Shuld we ever? Listen to a bit of what Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister Chris Luxon had to say just half an hour ago.

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Speaker 6: Our government will continue working incredibly hard to realize New

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Speaker 6: Who can provide a world leading education so that your

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Speaker 6: And who can provide more affordable housing and quality infrastructure

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Speaker 3: So there you go. That was has preambled before the

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Speaker 2: Before we continue with the subject. I've acknowledge of very

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Speaker 3: Yes to go to sleep OSAA, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can Matt put the mouth tape on now? Please? Kyle?

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Speaker 2: that is very good for that's good. But anyway back

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Speaker 2: to the topic. It's interesting the initial response to all

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Speaker 2: So you know some of these texts here, Hey, Matt

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Speaker 2: Maybe he should go to Jason Gunn's speaking business. Jason Gunn,

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Speaker 2: great New zealandent. Yeah, great speaker. Yeah, great speaker, and

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Speaker 2: he does great lessons on speaking. That isn't interesting that

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Speaker 2: or the you know, the the you know, the substance

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Speaker 2: they just focus entirely on style. How confident they seemed.

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Speaker 3: The energy levels, Yeah, yeah, where they were striking the

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Speaker 2: Like if I was a political commentator, I would be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who cares?

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Speaker 2: Who cares about the style. If he's got a message,

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? People want to get tricked?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Do people want to people begging for some kind of

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Speaker 3: Clearly some of them are, but ken hear your view.

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Speaker 3: O eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 3: Nine to two? Nine to two is the text? The

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Speaker 3: election date has been set and who is it going

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Speaker 3: to play out for better? It is nineteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks, they'd.

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Speaker 3: Be twenty two past one. So we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: election date. It's been set, the seventh of November. Who

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Speaker 3: is that going to advantage as we hit closer to

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Speaker 3: that date. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Herman says, that wasn't a PM talking to his nation.

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Speaker 2: That was a bad news reader rattling through auto prompt.

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Speaker 2: I vote National, but I hate how he has no emotions. Herman,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: from from Act and New Zealand first, assuming New Zealand

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Speaker 2: First will want to go with the Coalition again. But

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Speaker 2: you surely yeah, I could be wrong there. So I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they've thought that through this.

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Speaker 3: Oh definitely, They've got consultants up the wazoo and pr professionals.

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Speaker 2: But oh, you're right. I think if you're if you're

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Speaker 3: Like National, to go at guns blazing and be the

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Speaker 3: ultimate showman and try to you know, for less someone

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Speaker 3: said be adjasent gunn and and you know, try and

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Speaker 3: be an orator. That is a risky strategy. Whereas someone

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Speaker 3: like Winston Peters, David Seemore, Chloe Swarbreck and to party Maori.

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Speaker 2: They can do that because they don't have Imagine if

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Speaker 2: you come out screaming like Chloe s he screams on

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Speaker 2: the mic, that would not suggestability, would it?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: Imagine if it was like and so wasteful spending has

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Speaker 3: News Elanders it off right now?

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Speaker 2: No I know one would stay for the election date.

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Speaker 2: Is that what people want the sex to says, luxe

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Speaker 2: AND's delivery was fine. It's what he says that count.

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Speaker 2: Some journalists are trying to help their mates out here,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: I think they might be a part of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah a Rob, welcome the show.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you gentlemen for having me on as a

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Speaker 9: what would give lux and immediate cut through is for

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Speaker 9: whom to announce that everyone in Parliament.

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Speaker 10: Will take a ten percent.

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Speaker 9: Salary cut as the contribution for credibility.

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Speaker 8: And we do have a.

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Speaker 9: Lot of politicians and I've been to say that there's

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Speaker 9: politicians and every party that are not doing a lot

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Speaker 9: and evening far more than the rest of us. Much

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Speaker 9: is made of the cost living crisis, and I think

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Speaker 9: they need to lead by example and that would give

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting idea, Rob. It would have definitely got

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Speaker 2: do you think that who do you think that helps?

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Speaker 11: Rob?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that. I mean, obviously Nationals sought it through.

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Speaker 2: They probably want the economy to grow a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and you know, they believe that what they're doing is

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Speaker 2: the right thing, and the fruits might start to show

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Speaker 2: what do you think, Rob?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think that November seventh is okay. Perhaps

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Speaker 9: seen the box Hova might have been better so that

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Speaker 9: if there's any issues with certain smaller parties trying to

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Speaker 9: that might have given them a bit more wiggle room.

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Speaker 9: But look, I think it's fine. I think we're on.

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Speaker 7: The app and up, and I know that the company

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Speaker 9: Working for one of the companies getting busier and busier,

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Speaker 9: and maybe it's still the team of crap that everyone's fying,

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Speaker 2: Well, Rob, what do you think about so many people

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Speaker 2: that Luxelon's delivery is flat. Are you the kind of

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Speaker 12: I listen to pre.

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Speaker 9: Sort of Trump's speech on CNN this morning and celebrating

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Speaker 8: Light years. I'd rather listen to Luxan at perhaps a

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Speaker 8: little flat. I just really think that. But it's better

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Speaker 9: The infantile ravings of someone that has no clue at all.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your call, Rob, Interesting thoughts, Oh,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 3: Love to you your thoughts if you want to have

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Speaker 3: a chat about his speech style more than welcome, I mean,

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Speaker 3: do you want the fire and brimstone or do you

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Speaker 3: just want the facts and figures? And also that election

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Speaker 3: date of the seventh of November. Who is that going

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Speaker 3: slight risk that if something happens midway through the year,

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Speaker 3: say in the international situation that has another crack at

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Speaker 3: the economy, that could be a risky strategy. Things start

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Speaker 3: to feel like they're on the up now. But what

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Speaker 3: do you say one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Well, this Texas is long. Luxen has gone next election

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent after that speech.

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Speaker 3: That's a bold prediction. That's a bold prediction. Twenty seven

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Speaker 1: The Headlines and the Hard Questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 13: Art has got thirty nine percent of us holding a

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Speaker 13: bachelor's degree or higher. Chris William's the chief executive of

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Speaker 13: University's New Zealand. It's thirty nine percent a good number.

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Speaker 12: Four Well, actually, no, we're actually lagging behind most other

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Speaker 12: years an international trend of educating their population as their

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Speaker 12: workforce has become much more knowledge worker based.

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Speaker 13: Wow, So is that a cultural thing? We just don't

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Speaker 12: It's hard to tell. People are rational, they will follow

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Speaker 12: where the jobs are, and I think the New Dent

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Speaker 12: economy hasn't developed perhaps as quickly as some other economies have.

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Speaker 13: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: the Defendant News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Z B very good afternoons due it is bang on

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Speaker 3: our passed one. So we're talking about the election dates

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Speaker 3: of the seventh of November. Who is that going to advantage?

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Speaker 3: The most of the parties love to eat your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: So one hundred and eighty ten eighty. What are you

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Speaker 3: giggling over there about?

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Speaker 4: Matt?

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Speaker 2: Oh No, I just was. There's so many texts coming through,

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Speaker 2: but this one was, Hey, you too, gum boots. This

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Speaker 2: election will be about the cost of living my dwarf

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Speaker 2: friends struggles to put food on the table. It only

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Speaker 2: made me laugh. That's a cheap gag. It only made

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Speaker 2: it laugh because I was reading it as a serious

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Speaker 2: you know, it drew me down the path of this

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Speaker 3: You wrote me in as well, because I hadn't read

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Speaker 3: that one. But it's well done, well played. A couple

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. I think it was a very honest,

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Speaker 2: good and afformative speech explaining the mess they inherit and

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Speaker 2: how they are making progress and putting things right. That's

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Speaker 2: from Jenny style over substance. We had that with our

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Speaker 2: dourn didn't work very well. I'm better off than I

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Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty three, dramatically so lucks In. Luck's

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Speaker 2: off and hopefully away. Hopefully away. He's useless and does

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Speaker 2: New Zealand think Winston might have one more stab in

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Speaker 2: the back of National and Store. He's still dreams of

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Speaker 2: being Prime Minister and the nets will never give him that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, very interesting. Well, you never know with Winston Peters,

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Speaker 3: and at the moment he's been doing pretty well.

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Speaker 2: This text says, it's interesting November seven, they just just

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Speaker 2: just give his labor extra time to announce more and

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Speaker 2: more taxation policies. How they're going to tax us more

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Speaker 2: and more and more and more and more and more

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Speaker 2: and more and more tax Steve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those texts going through on nine two nine

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Speaker 3: to love to hear your thoughts about that election date.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think it will advantage the most? Should

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Speaker 3: they have gone earlier? I thought it was an interesting

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Speaker 3: line there from Christopher Luxan during that speech, kiwis will

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Speaker 3: have to weigh up who is the best to provide

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Speaker 3: stable government in a turbulent time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the key point. He's talking about stable solid.

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Speaker 2: You know, just going through it was like the state

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Speaker 2: of the Nation, and you know, a bunch of reporters

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Speaker 2: were going, oh, there wasn't very dramatic, it wasn't very exciting.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't stuff in there. I think I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's quite a mistake, and I don't think his delivery

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Speaker 2: is by mistake. I mean he could fire up, you know,

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Speaker 2: put on some kind of fiery red yep if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to, if they thought would win the election. But

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Speaker 2: I think the idea is to create the feeling of

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Speaker 2: stability and continuing on the way that they've been going

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Speaker 2: because they believe they're doing the right thing. Yeah. And

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Speaker 2: as I said before at Winston and David Seymour, be

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Speaker 2: or fire and Brimstone.

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Speaker 3: What do you say, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number? It is time for the headlines

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Speaker 3: with Rayleen bag. Very shortly.

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Speaker 1: You've talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Red rain warnings

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Speaker 14: cover Northland Corimandal Peninsula. They have plenty, including the ruthur

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Speaker 14: Doer and Gisbon district north of Tallerga Bay. The extreme

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Speaker 14: falls have triggered precautionary states of emergency in Tims, Corimandel

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Speaker 14: and Fargarde. A man's been swept away in a car

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Speaker 14: trying to ford Mahurangi River near Walkworth north of Auckland.

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Speaker 14: Orange heavy rain warning span Auckland, Great Barrier Island, Gisbon

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Speaker 14: District south of Tallerga Bay, Hawks Bay and Tasman west

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Speaker 14: of marpor. The Prime Minister's announced New Zealand's next general

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Speaker 14: election will be on November seven. Early voting will open

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Speaker 14: twelve days beforehand. On October twenty six, a christ Church

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Speaker 14: doctor whose conviction was quashed decades ago and who was

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Speaker 14: found not guilty in a retrial has been subjected to

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Speaker 14: a widespread social media flurry of post calling him a rapist,

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Speaker 14: pedophile and sex offender. Homeowners when payout after grocery delivery

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Speaker 14: truck destroys Archway tree a branch that is on leafy property.

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Speaker 14: You can find out more at end, said Herald Premium.

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Speaker 14: Now back to Matteith and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Raylean.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about the election date seventh of November.

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Speaker 3: Who is that going to advantage the most of one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Just sort of look at some election dates. Twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: fourteenth of October yep not bad, twenty twenty seventeenth of

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Speaker 2: October twenty seventeen, twenty third of September, woh, twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 2: twentieth twentieth of September twenty eleven, twenty sixth of November

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, eighth of November two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: seventeenth of September, twenty.

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Speaker 3: And two, twenty seventh of July, twenty seventh of July.

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Speaker 3: Or was it two thousand and two. Oh, that was

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Speaker 3: bil English. It was contesting, wasn't it two thousand and two?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I believe so. So, I mean, there's reason. So this

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Speaker 2: is this is later the earliest one I can find

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Speaker 2: in our entire history. It's basically July on. Here we

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Speaker 2: go in eighteen seventy one, No, eighteen seventy six.

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Speaker 3: Eighth of January. Oh, straight into it, straight into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is bullsy. That is bullsy.

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Speaker 2: Eighth of jam It was just put the saucy back

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Speaker 2: on the barbie and then heads sound to vote back.

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Speaker 2: In eighteen seventy six, it took a whole week. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: actually longer than that. Elections used to run. That election

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Speaker 2: ran from eighteenth of January to fifteenth of feb So

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Speaker 2: you had all that time together.

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Speaker 3: It's a long run, Roger, How are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good things. Look, I think the later day obviously,

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Speaker 8: suits national economy is picking up, and one of the

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Speaker 8: key things there is the unemployment rate, which is one

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Speaker 8: of the last things to improve when the economy picks up.

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Speaker 8: So I think they'll be hoping that that starts to move.

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Speaker 8: And I think they've also had other things they've done,

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Speaker 8: you know, in the education and so forth. You know,

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Speaker 8: probably some more good news could improved results in those

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Speaker 8: sorts of areas. So yeah, I think the later dates

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Speaker 8: probably suits National quite well. And on Luxon's delivery, I

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Speaker 8: don't mind that he's a bit flat. I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: it's the substance is more important than the style. Where

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Speaker 8: I think he needs to be careful is to be

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Speaker 8: seen to be decisive and to give an answer, and

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Speaker 8: he had those instances last year. I think there's one

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Speaker 8: on the politician MP that resigned and they pushed him

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Speaker 8: on whether he would have sacked him if he didn't resign,

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Speaker 8: and he just kept evating the question and came off

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Speaker 8: looking pretty bad. Even if he's doesn't you know, he

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Speaker 8: should say an answer, even if he's not sure if

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Speaker 8: it's the right one or not. He's better to say

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Speaker 8: something then appear to be, you know, trying to make

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Speaker 8: questions and being indecisive. So there would be my advice

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Speaker 8: to him it's just, you know, just be strong than

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Speaker 8: an answer, even if it's not the right one. People

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Speaker 8: like to see you being decided on something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the other thing is that, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you decide what your message is and you just

553
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Speaker 2: keep repeating it over and over and over again. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's what smart possessions do. You decide what you're

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Speaker 2: going to say, just keep repeating it. Even no matter

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Speaker 2: how many stories are written about how bad and flat

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Speaker 2: your presentation is or how you're just saying the same

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Speaker 2: thing over again. There'll be people will write that because

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Speaker 2: people have to have something to write. But slowly it

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Speaker 2: drills into people's minds. Yeah, it's controlling the narrative. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Unfortunately, a lot of the media here like to

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Speaker 8: try and get those gotcha sort of moments and catch

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Speaker 8: you out. And I think he just needs to be

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Speaker 8: a bit more on the ball a quick answer on things,

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Speaker 8: you know, rather than becaught look like a like a

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Speaker 8: you know, like a possum in the headlights sometimes.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, what a smart politician does is just whatever

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Speaker 2: questions asked. If it's national goes well, inflation is down

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Speaker 2: from over seven percent to three percent, whatever the question

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Speaker 2: is you know, whatever you want to say. The government's

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Speaker 2: delivered eleven billion dollars. Well, I think that's interesting. But

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Speaker 2: the government has delivered eleven billion a year in savings

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Speaker 2: while keeping a path back to surplus or something like that.

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Speaker 3: The OCA has been cut nine times since we've been

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Speaker 3: in office, and that's good news for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It does seem that he gets dragged down into sort

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Speaker 2: of just speculating an areas he's not sure what he

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Speaker 2: can actually say and second guessing himself. Doesn't he but Roger, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he should.

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Speaker 8: He should watch the Winston Peters highlight reel. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Winston is a master at He controls the narrative on

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Speaker 8: any interview. If he doesn't like the question, he just

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Speaker 8: answers the question. He does like himself.

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Speaker 2: It should be like, you know, what are you doing

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Speaker 2: for the Easter holidays? Prime Minister? And then you say

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Speaker 2: education reforms have lifted early literacy results from thirty six

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Speaker 2: to fifty eight percent. I thank of you, cal Roger

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty Z number to call nine

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Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text. Will take a quick

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Speaker 3: break and come back with Pete who reckons Just to

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Speaker 3: hit a Christmas is a good date. It is nineteen

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty US Talks.

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Speaker 3: EDB, News Talk ZEDB. It is seventeen to two. So

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Speaker 3: we're talking about the election date. It's the seventh of November,

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Speaker 3: as the Prime Minister announced this afternoon. Who do you

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Speaker 3: think that's going to play best for National Labor one

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Speaker 3: of the other parties. Love to hear from you, nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninet two cent texts.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting text, Dear Luxon, you are piddling

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Speaker 2: into a strong Southerly from the top of Mallard stand

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Speaker 2: in a cold chisel crazy hors concert at Athletic Park.

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Speaker 2: Spray back much and then there's deep meaning in that.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack there. Thanks for your text

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Speaker 2: read ors, appreciate them. The election date is good. Pm

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Speaker 2: Luckson speaks clearly, works hard and he delivers. What's the

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Speaker 2: use of sounding great if you don't deliver? That is

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Speaker 2: from and Pete from you Plymouth, Welcome to the show again.

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Speaker 5: The Adam Tyler.

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Speaker 10: You're just regarding the date like it's a good date

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Speaker 10: because it gives them basically what another eleven months to

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Speaker 10: campaign and it's good. It just gets all done and

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Speaker 10: dusty for Christmas and then I think it's not a

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Speaker 10: bad date. But I still reckon of Chris Luckin is

617
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Speaker 10: what he's got to do is if you want to

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Speaker 10: got to man up a bit more of what's happening

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Speaker 10: with the Greenland and stuff like that. He's got you know,

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Speaker 10: he's fighting a little bit of egg on his faith

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Speaker 10: by day and don't agree with if Trump the US

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Speaker 10: and we've got to start doing more all of that

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Speaker 10: other way people, you've got to stand up with the

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Speaker 10: Prime Minister. And I reckon he's got.

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Speaker 4: To do it.

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Speaker 10: But like the EU have a fighting against struck by

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Speaker 10: trying to take over Greenland, we've got to do more

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Speaker 10: of this country there. We don't agree.

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Speaker 2: Why do we hear what's happening with Greenland sitting here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, Why why would the people like just

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Speaker 2: just from an election point of view, if you're sitting

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Speaker 2: and let's just say west Auckland in New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: you're you know, you're you're struggling away. Maybe you're a

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Speaker 2: trade and you're worried about how much business you're going

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Speaker 2: to get through. Do you really go, I wonder what's

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Speaker 2: happening in Greenland? Or is that just for people that

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Speaker 2: are spending a lot of time online and consume a

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Speaker 2: lot of news. What do you think, Pete?

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Speaker 10: No, I reckon busting. We all know that he's not

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Speaker 10: really fermanent of the sort of ducks and dives, the

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Speaker 10: real hardcore questions. You've got to stand up to more

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Speaker 10: of those, just make his voice know and so we

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Speaker 10: know how he thinks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but don't you think sometimes you just

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Speaker 2: give people what they want, so someone will just hammer

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Speaker 2: you with a question on Greenland? And knowing that it's

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Speaker 2: a difficult position for for Luxon because he's concerned about

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy, doesn't necessarily want Trump to go okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, slap tariffs on us. So it's kind of

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Speaker 2: a lose lose for him to be drawn down those

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Speaker 2: paths because ninety nine percent of New Zealanders couldn't give

652
00:31:23,093 --> 00:31:26,693
Speaker 2: a crap about it, and he's just throwing up headlines

653
00:31:26,693 --> 00:31:31,253
Speaker 2: for attacks if he goes goes down that path. So

654
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Speaker 2: wouldn't it be politically wise for him to just cack

655
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Speaker 2: that to touch as hard as he possibly can, like

656
00:31:35,933 --> 00:31:37,973
Speaker 2: it's the end of the World Cup and your one

657
00:31:37,973 --> 00:31:40,133
Speaker 2: point ahead.

658
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but then again, like we all go all part

659
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Speaker 10: of the United Nations and that sort of thing, so

660
00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:49,093
Speaker 10: NATO and all that sort of thing, so we want

661
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Speaker 10: a part of that allied group.

662
00:31:50,813 --> 00:31:51,293
Speaker 15: We've got to.

663
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Speaker 10: Say we don't agree to what he's doing, so make

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Speaker 10: New Zealand and New Zealand's proud of our government. We

665
00:31:56,933 --> 00:32:00,013
Speaker 10: don't agree what those politicians are doing like Trump. I

666
00:32:00,053 --> 00:32:01,533
Speaker 10: think we've got to start stating that more.

667
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Speaker 2: But I guess the problem NATO though, in those European

668
00:32:03,813 --> 00:32:06,773
Speaker 2: countries is they do very very very little trade with us,

669
00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:09,693
Speaker 2: very little trade. They do very little to help us

670
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Speaker 2: on the global stage, whereas America is our third biggest

671
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Speaker 2: trading part third or second.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but one day we might need help from those

673
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Speaker 10: comans of will. It's quite unstable.

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Speaker 2: Do you think France will come to our help? I mean,

675
00:32:25,413 --> 00:32:28,093
Speaker 2: last time France was in any military action in New

676
00:32:28,173 --> 00:32:30,333
Speaker 2: Zealand involved bombing the Rainbow Warrior.

677
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Speaker 3: Yeah that sucked.

678
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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, and that's not and that's not a perfect

679
00:32:35,693 --> 00:32:38,053
Speaker 10: But I'm going to be on the good side of

680
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Speaker 10: the good guys and the bad guys, wouldn't.

681
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Speaker 2: You So you think the Americans the bad guys in

682
00:32:43,013 --> 00:32:45,213
Speaker 2: the world right now? Would you think that there's other

683
00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:47,693
Speaker 2: people were like? So for example, that what I find interesting.

684
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,413
Speaker 2: So I went, Pete, I went completely news free for

685
00:32:50,493 --> 00:32:53,893
Speaker 2: a few weeks over the holidays, and when I came back,

686
00:32:53,933 --> 00:32:55,813
Speaker 2: I saw what was happening in Iran. And then I

687
00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:57,653
Speaker 2: opened the news in New Zealand. I thought, we'll be

688
00:32:57,653 --> 00:33:00,133
Speaker 2: talking about that. This is this is insane, this is

689
00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:02,333
Speaker 2: this is a terrible regime, and people are rising up

690
00:33:02,373 --> 00:33:07,413
Speaker 2: against the horror that is happening and has what Iran has.

691
00:33:07,613 --> 00:33:09,733
Speaker 2: You know what the race has done to people, what

692
00:33:09,773 --> 00:33:12,493
Speaker 2: it does to women in Iran, you know, the suppression,

693
00:33:12,613 --> 00:33:16,253
Speaker 2: the political murders, the absolute horror show. There. I open

694
00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:20,893
Speaker 2: up the news here, everyone's talking about American immigration. I'm like,

695
00:33:20,933 --> 00:33:26,053
Speaker 2: are we seriously talking about American immigration enforcement when one,

696
00:33:26,253 --> 00:33:30,333
Speaker 2: like a historically incredibly significant story is happening in Iran.

697
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Speaker 10: Pete, Yeah, I know. Trump does he sort of goes

698
00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,813
Speaker 10: in there like a bunch blazing sort of things. Yeah,

699
00:33:39,973 --> 00:33:43,333
Speaker 10: pretty quick. So it's just a as you know, Trump,

700
00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:45,493
Speaker 10: It's just he's just a just a pr done for them.

701
00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:47,693
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, and we will fall for it

702
00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:49,613
Speaker 2: because we all start talking about it and we're talking

703
00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:51,133
Speaker 2: about things that haven't, you know.

704
00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:53,613
Speaker 3: No relevance to most voters or our lives.

705
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Speaker 2: And Prime Minister in New Zealand the middle of the

706
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Speaker 2: Pacific afforting to ask about the situation in Greenland.

707
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think when you look at what matters

708
00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:03,853
Speaker 3: most of key Wes heat of the election, Greenland will

709
00:34:04,053 --> 00:34:06,613
Speaker 3: it won't even exist on the list. It's the cost

710
00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:10,252
Speaker 3: of living, housing, edge education. If they have Greenland on

711
00:34:10,293 --> 00:34:12,093
Speaker 3: that list, I will be pleasantly surprised.

712
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Speaker 2: It'll be somewhere below the climate at around fifteen pete.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your call. O one hundred

714
00:34:18,453 --> 00:34:20,172
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It

715
00:34:20,293 --> 00:34:21,172
Speaker 3: is eleven to two.

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Speaker 1: Back very shortly, Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls

717
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Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath

718
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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 2: NEWSTORGSB, NEWSTORGSB. It is eight to two.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about the election date seventh of

721
00:34:36,573 --> 00:34:39,373
Speaker 3: November is announced by the Prime Minister. Who is that

722
00:34:39,493 --> 00:34:41,733
Speaker 3: going to play the best four in terms of the parties,

723
00:34:41,733 --> 00:34:43,812
Speaker 3: but also a lot of techs had come through about

724
00:34:43,853 --> 00:34:47,093
Speaker 3: the style of oratory of the Prime Minister, a lot

725
00:34:47,133 --> 00:34:49,373
Speaker 3: of critics saying he was a bit a little bit boring.

726
00:34:49,973 --> 00:34:52,253
Speaker 3: They wanted some more fire and brimstone and gusto.

727
00:34:52,453 --> 00:34:54,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bunch of people who have been mentioning American

728
00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:56,453
Speaker 2: politicians how they give it something. Some people say we

729
00:34:56,493 --> 00:35:01,173
Speaker 2: need more Trump in it. So we've shoved Luxeen's a

730
00:35:01,213 --> 00:35:06,093
Speaker 2: little bit of Lucksen's election date announcement through a free

731
00:35:08,453 --> 00:35:13,413
Speaker 2: or Trump ai Verse voice generator and let's see if

732
00:35:13,413 --> 00:35:13,773
Speaker 2: you like that.

733
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Speaker 16: Continuing to deliver on our plan to fix the basics

734
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:20,573
Speaker 16: and build the future so that kiwi's around the country

735
00:35:20,613 --> 00:35:22,453
Speaker 16: get more results like these will remain.

736
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Speaker 3: Are Is that where you want New Zealand's you like

737
00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:26,933
Speaker 3: the sound of that? Is that the bull gusto that

738
00:35:27,013 --> 00:35:27,333
Speaker 3: you need?

739
00:35:27,573 --> 00:35:31,533
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean no acknowledgment of commas. I got to say,

740
00:35:32,453 --> 00:35:35,933
Speaker 2: is that what you want? Don't care about Trump invading

741
00:35:35,973 --> 00:35:38,812
Speaker 2: Poland and Ice shooting mums dead all over the US.

742
00:35:38,933 --> 00:35:43,453
Speaker 2: Matt Heath, wait until he decides we have something he wants.

743
00:35:43,733 --> 00:35:46,732
Speaker 2: I hope Ice knocks on your door one day. Okay,

744
00:35:46,773 --> 00:35:51,573
Speaker 2: a couple of points there. Don't care about Trump invading Greenland.

745
00:35:51,573 --> 00:35:53,853
Speaker 2: He's not invading Greenland at this point. And Ice shooting

746
00:35:53,933 --> 00:35:57,373
Speaker 2: mums dead all over the US. You are spending too

747
00:35:57,413 --> 00:36:00,413
Speaker 2: much time online, Texter, way too much time online, and

748
00:36:00,453 --> 00:36:02,693
Speaker 2: you need to ask yourself the question why are you

749
00:36:02,813 --> 00:36:05,933
Speaker 2: currently caring about things that are happening in another country.

750
00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:11,973
Speaker 2: Charles Dickens and the fantastic book Bleak House. Incredible book.

751
00:36:12,013 --> 00:36:14,573
Speaker 2: I haven't read it, but he talks about this concept

752
00:36:14,613 --> 00:36:18,333
Speaker 2: in that book of Telescopic Philanthropy, and there's a character

753
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:23,213
Speaker 2: and that's always looking overseas and berating people locally about

754
00:36:23,213 --> 00:36:26,413
Speaker 2: what's happening overseas because you can get sucked into that

755
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:28,933
Speaker 2: doing that all the time, because it's very easy to

756
00:36:28,933 --> 00:36:31,693
Speaker 2: moralize about what's hapening overseas because you have no effect

757
00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:34,333
Speaker 2: on it whatsoever at all, So you can hit people

758
00:36:34,373 --> 00:36:35,973
Speaker 2: on it, smash people on it, and no one's got

759
00:36:35,973 --> 00:36:38,893
Speaker 2: any skin in the game. And you know, politicians love

760
00:36:38,933 --> 00:36:41,333
Speaker 2: to do that as well, certain politicians, because they don't

761
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:44,053
Speaker 2: have any key performance indicators on it. So you can

762
00:36:44,093 --> 00:36:46,893
Speaker 2: smash something that's in blame people and hassle people about

763
00:36:46,893 --> 00:36:51,212
Speaker 2: what's happening over the seas overseas constantly because you can't

764
00:36:51,213 --> 00:36:54,172
Speaker 2: affect it. Therefore you can't be held responsible for how

765
00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:56,693
Speaker 2: it turns out. So say you've got a lot of

766
00:36:56,773 --> 00:36:59,013
Speaker 2: let's say, for example, and you're electerate, you've got a

767
00:36:59,053 --> 00:37:01,573
Speaker 2: lot of mentally unwell people that are on the street

768
00:37:02,093 --> 00:37:05,933
Speaker 2: and there's problems there. Right, much easier to go on

769
00:37:06,013 --> 00:37:08,973
Speaker 2: and hassle everyone and campaign and yell and screen about

770
00:37:08,973 --> 00:37:10,893
Speaker 2: what's happening on the other side of the world then

771
00:37:11,013 --> 00:37:14,252
Speaker 2: dealing with the issue at home because people can get

772
00:37:14,293 --> 00:37:16,533
Speaker 2: the data on how effective you have been at dealing

773
00:37:16,613 --> 00:37:20,373
Speaker 2: with the situation. So I think we always should ask

774
00:37:20,413 --> 00:37:24,133
Speaker 2: the question, why are you caring right now about what

775
00:37:24,293 --> 00:37:28,133
Speaker 2: is happening overseas? Particularly? Is it because the algorithm's playing you?

776
00:37:28,293 --> 00:37:31,613
Speaker 2: Is it because a political party in the country that

777
00:37:31,693 --> 00:37:35,373
Speaker 2: creates all the content is trying to get a certain

778
00:37:35,413 --> 00:37:37,813
Speaker 2: result and you're just collateral damage caring about it. They

779
00:37:37,813 --> 00:37:39,133
Speaker 2: don't even care if you care about it, but you

780
00:37:39,173 --> 00:37:43,133
Speaker 2: care about it because you're so terminally online. You got

781
00:37:43,133 --> 00:37:45,933
Speaker 2: to ask these questions, Why does the algorithms and social

782
00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:49,453
Speaker 2: media arise certain things to the top when there's so

783
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:51,573
Speaker 2: many other things in the world, like, for example, what's

784
00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:54,213
Speaker 2: happening in Iran. Interesting that we don't seem to talk

785
00:37:54,213 --> 00:37:55,853
Speaker 2: a lot about what's happening in Iran, and there's a

786
00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:58,093
Speaker 2: media blackout of Iran, and that's not where social media

787
00:37:58,173 --> 00:37:58,973
Speaker 2: is generated.

788
00:37:58,653 --> 00:38:01,893
Speaker 3: From without being hyperbolic propaganda one o one, that's how

789
00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:06,013
Speaker 3: it happens, and social media fanning the flames on that one. Jeck,

790
00:38:07,373 --> 00:38:08,013
Speaker 3: how are you mate?

791
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:14,212
Speaker 17: They yeah's great to have you back. You Look, I've

792
00:38:14,213 --> 00:38:16,733
Speaker 17: got to keep this pretty brief. I've got at two o'clock.

793
00:38:16,813 --> 00:38:22,973
Speaker 17: But I attended the luncheon on Monday where we hosted

794
00:38:23,053 --> 00:38:28,653
Speaker 17: a table nation. Yeah, so I saw the saw the

795
00:38:28,693 --> 00:38:32,173
Speaker 17: big guy give his address directly in lock cards on

796
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:35,173
Speaker 17: the table here. I am a national paid or national

797
00:38:35,173 --> 00:38:38,573
Speaker 17: air plator, so I'm in I'm kind of in that camp.

798
00:38:38,613 --> 00:38:40,453
Speaker 17: But I'm going to say I've seen him speak a

799
00:38:40,493 --> 00:38:44,053
Speaker 17: couple of times. Last time was at the Epic Brewery,

800
00:38:44,053 --> 00:38:47,692
Speaker 17: which is a very different venue, and I've always been

801
00:38:47,693 --> 00:38:51,973
Speaker 17: impressed with how he speaks. If maybe it's just me,

802
00:38:52,173 --> 00:38:54,853
Speaker 17: but I actually don't like the fire and brimstone. I

803
00:38:55,013 --> 00:39:00,013
Speaker 17: like sensible government with a small g. I'm a true

804
00:39:00,053 --> 00:39:03,533
Speaker 17: libertarian and and what he's he's doing and what he

805
00:39:03,613 --> 00:39:07,893
Speaker 17: kind of reiterated in his address was, you know, back

806
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:11,573
Speaker 17: to base, it's fixing New Zealand, laying the foundations and

807
00:39:11,613 --> 00:39:15,253
Speaker 17: the framework for the future prosperity and success. And honestly

808
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:17,413
Speaker 17: that played right to my heart.

809
00:39:17,453 --> 00:39:17,853
Speaker 11: Anyway.

810
00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:23,613
Speaker 17: I feel it's massively you know we've needed it for

811
00:39:23,613 --> 00:39:24,493
Speaker 17: a long long time.

812
00:39:25,213 --> 00:39:26,172
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call.

813
00:39:26,373 --> 00:39:26,573
Speaker 5: Jack.

814
00:39:26,653 --> 00:39:29,213
Speaker 2: Oh well, November seven is the election date where the

815
00:39:29,293 --> 00:39:32,693
Speaker 2: National's got it right in terms of their reelection hopes.

816
00:39:32,813 --> 00:39:33,732
Speaker 2: Only time will tell.

817
00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:35,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a big year, that's for sure.

818
00:39:35,893 --> 00:39:38,692
Speaker 3: Great discussion, thank you very much. Coming up after two

819
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:41,933
Speaker 3: o'clock we want to talk about problem gambling. How do

820
00:39:41,973 --> 00:39:44,933
Speaker 3: you help a problem gambler? One hundred and eighteen eighties number.

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Speaker 1: To call talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen,

822
00:39:49,413 --> 00:39:52,013
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

823
00:39:52,053 --> 00:39:55,853
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show.

824
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:59,212
Speaker 3: Great to have your company. Over the next fifty five

825
00:39:59,213 --> 00:40:01,613
Speaker 3: minutes or so. We won't have a chat about problem gambling.

826
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Speaker 3: This is after calls are growing for tougher gambling regulations

827
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Speaker 3: to prevent relapse. New research out at aut shows one.

828
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Speaker 3: All gamblers who recover from harmful gambling slip back and

829
00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:15,333
Speaker 3: return to the habit at a risky level. So Problem

830
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Speaker 3: Gambling Foundation Clinical director bridget Thornleigh was on early edition

831
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Speaker 3: this morning. Here's a bit of what she had to say.

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Speaker 18: We're seeing more and more young people presenting to our

833
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:28,693
Speaker 18: service seeking help. So in the past, you know, it

834
00:40:28,773 --> 00:40:31,013
Speaker 18: might have been older people that might have been gambling

835
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Speaker 18: for ten or fifteen years before they come and see us.

836
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Speaker 18: Now we're seeing them a bit earlier, but they're definitely

837
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Speaker 18: been introduced to gambling. Very young people on children's apps

838
00:40:42,013 --> 00:40:45,093
Speaker 18: for games are getting introduced to gambling, and it's being

839
00:40:45,173 --> 00:40:49,733
Speaker 18: normalized in a way that people think gambling is just

840
00:40:49,853 --> 00:40:54,453
Speaker 18: part of the fun. We need more regulation these products, aren't,

841
00:40:54,613 --> 00:40:57,573
Speaker 18: you know, just your ordinary product that you can go

842
00:40:57,653 --> 00:41:00,493
Speaker 18: and have a bit of fun on things like poking machines.

843
00:41:01,213 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 18: It's only about fifteen percent of the population that would

844
00:41:04,013 --> 00:41:07,093
Speaker 18: have a go on pokies, but of those that play

845
00:41:07,293 --> 00:41:12,293
Speaker 18: will gamble on them, it's fifty of them experience harm.

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00:41:12,773 --> 00:41:15,053
Speaker 2: It is fun gambling, though it can be. Yeah, I

847
00:41:15,093 --> 00:41:17,212
Speaker 2: love a I mean when you're having a discussion about

848
00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:19,773
Speaker 2: anything like that, you have to acknowledge that gambling on

849
00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:22,652
Speaker 2: sport is fun. Oh yeah, and the pokes can be

850
00:41:22,653 --> 00:41:26,053
Speaker 2: a little bit fun. But I personally don't get the addiction.

851
00:41:27,453 --> 00:41:29,933
Speaker 2: I'm lucky, as I was saying before, I can understand

852
00:41:29,933 --> 00:41:38,253
Speaker 2: addiction to drugs because I had a horrific, horrific subscription drugs.

853
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:40,573
Speaker 2: Prescription subscription drugs is.

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00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:43,213
Speaker 3: An interesting it'll come, it's coming.

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00:41:43,013 --> 00:41:48,133
Speaker 2: Zone prescription drugs issue, so I get. And since I

856
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,692
Speaker 2: had that, I didn't really understand drug addiction until I've

857
00:41:51,733 --> 00:41:55,172
Speaker 2: been through an addiction to tramadol, and that was when

858
00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:59,053
Speaker 2: I was having back surgery. So I now understand that

859
00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:03,093
Speaker 2: I understand alcohol, alcoholism, you know, that makes sense to me.

860
00:42:03,173 --> 00:42:05,613
Speaker 2: But the gambling addiction is an interesting one because I'll

861
00:42:05,613 --> 00:42:09,373
Speaker 2: bet on sports, but I don't feel compelled or just

862
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:11,413
Speaker 2: have a little flutter. Makes it a little bit interesting.

863
00:42:12,133 --> 00:42:15,413
Speaker 2: So but for some people that is an absolute life

864
00:42:15,493 --> 00:42:20,413
Speaker 2: destroying disaster. And it's certain proclivity proclivities, well I'm having

865
00:42:20,453 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 2: trouble speaking again today. Certain proclivities that people have that

866
00:42:25,413 --> 00:42:27,772
Speaker 2: that lead them to be, you know, the type person

867
00:42:27,813 --> 00:42:32,013
Speaker 2: that can be absolutely drawn into gambling in such a

868
00:42:32,053 --> 00:42:32,652
Speaker 2: harmful way.

869
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:35,293
Speaker 3: And the pokey seem to be a big one. Look,

870
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:37,573
Speaker 3: I think many people listening right now will know people

871
00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:39,733
Speaker 3: in their circle, and certainly I've got a couple of

872
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:43,373
Speaker 3: people in my social circle and I don't know if

873
00:42:43,373 --> 00:42:46,053
Speaker 3: I could say they are massive problem gamblers. But maybe

874
00:42:46,053 --> 00:42:48,733
Speaker 3: this is part of the problem, right, is that traditionally

875
00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:52,453
Speaker 3: when we've gone to pubs or bars, they will zero

876
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,933
Speaker 3: in on the pokey room and you won't see them

877
00:42:54,933 --> 00:42:55,653
Speaker 3: for a couple of hours.

878
00:42:55,733 --> 00:42:57,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do I I mean that just seems to

879
00:42:57,973 --> 00:43:02,893
Speaker 2: be such a locking yourself away type of situation. I

880
00:43:02,933 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 2: listened to this really interesting analysis on pokey's and gambling

881
00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:10,253
Speaker 2: and slow machines, and you know, how how why they

882
00:43:10,253 --> 00:43:12,853
Speaker 2: have blown up so much in recent years to to

883
00:43:12,893 --> 00:43:14,933
Speaker 2: the you know, just the floor space that they take

884
00:43:15,013 --> 00:43:19,093
Speaker 2: up in a casino now is it's increasing, increasing, increasing, right,

885
00:43:19,253 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 2: And that that's a lot to do with the dopamine

886
00:43:20,933 --> 00:43:25,773
Speaker 2: hits that change with variation and things changing, Right, So

887
00:43:26,173 --> 00:43:29,253
Speaker 2: as soon as slot machines could have video on them,

888
00:43:29,573 --> 00:43:31,573
Speaker 2: they can change it completely. One minute, you've got like

889
00:43:31,933 --> 00:43:35,253
Speaker 2: a mummy coming at your Egyptian pyramid. The noises, the

890
00:43:36,693 --> 00:43:40,093
Speaker 2: free spins, all that great spins. Every poll gives you

891
00:43:40,133 --> 00:43:42,333
Speaker 2: something different and that is all part of the addiction

892
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:44,413
Speaker 2: as well as you know, the hope of winning money

893
00:43:44,693 --> 00:43:46,613
Speaker 2: or they're trying to win money back on that that

894
00:43:46,613 --> 00:43:49,573
Speaker 2: that feeling of loss that draws you into to gambling.

895
00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:56,373
Speaker 2: Just those machines are designed so incredibly powerfully to keep

896
00:43:56,373 --> 00:43:59,772
Speaker 2: you there and keep you keep you pulling again, right, yeah,

897
00:43:59,773 --> 00:44:03,493
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know smartphones and all the social

898
00:44:03,493 --> 00:44:06,893
Speaker 2: media they took cues from from from the pokies. The

899
00:44:06,893 --> 00:44:10,093
Speaker 2: global slot machine market is currently worth sixteen point eight

900
00:44:10,173 --> 00:44:14,933
Speaker 2: billion US dollars unreal globally, and it's projected to be

901
00:44:15,093 --> 00:44:20,333
Speaker 2: over thirty billion dollars by twenty thirty four. Shit cheaper,

902
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:24,093
Speaker 2: So it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. It

903
00:44:24,173 --> 00:44:26,053
Speaker 2: just seems depressing to me. You know, I've been to

904
00:44:26,093 --> 00:44:30,453
Speaker 2: Las Vegas and roulette tables one thing, the black jack's another.

905
00:44:30,573 --> 00:44:32,973
Speaker 2: But just sitting in front of the pokies, it doesn't

906
00:44:33,013 --> 00:44:35,413
Speaker 2: matter how glamorous you're in the MGM or something. Yeah,

907
00:44:35,813 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 2: you know, he's still at the Pokeyes, you might as

908
00:44:38,493 --> 00:44:40,013
Speaker 2: well be out of the back of the Crappers pub.

909
00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:41,173
Speaker 2: You can possibly found.

910
00:44:40,973 --> 00:44:43,373
Speaker 3: Exactly something a little bit sad about it, but it

911
00:44:43,453 --> 00:44:44,573
Speaker 3: is a serious addiction.

912
00:44:44,333 --> 00:44:47,053
Speaker 2: But it gets people, it does. Yeah, and so, and

913
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:49,493
Speaker 2: you know, we all have our different things that we

914
00:44:49,533 --> 00:44:52,653
Speaker 2: are drawn towards. So we want to talk about problem gambling.

915
00:44:52,653 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 2: Have you got out the other end of it? Because

916
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:57,293
Speaker 2: the study says that you know you can do. You

917
00:44:57,293 --> 00:44:58,373
Speaker 2: know a lot of people do all the work to

918
00:44:58,413 --> 00:45:00,172
Speaker 2: get out of it and then they just get drawn

919
00:45:01,333 --> 00:45:03,493
Speaker 2: back in. I mean, I'd love to talk to something

920
00:45:03,493 --> 00:45:06,732
Speaker 2: that can explain the addiction, how it feels to be

921
00:45:06,933 --> 00:45:09,172
Speaker 2: to be part of it, and how they got out

922
00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:11,253
Speaker 2: of it. And of course there's there's so many families

923
00:45:11,253 --> 00:45:14,853
Speaker 2: that are affected by gambling problems. I know, people that

924
00:45:14,893 --> 00:45:16,413
Speaker 2: have lost everything to gambling. Yeah.

925
00:45:16,493 --> 00:45:18,933
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear from you,

926
00:45:18,973 --> 00:45:22,413
Speaker 3: as Matt says, if you've got a problem with gambling

927
00:45:22,493 --> 00:45:24,533
Speaker 3: or you've come from on the other side, really can

928
00:45:24,573 --> 00:45:26,133
Speaker 3: have a chat with you. And what is the best

929
00:45:26,173 --> 00:45:27,973
Speaker 3: way to help someone with a gambling problem. If you've

930
00:45:28,013 --> 00:45:30,493
Speaker 3: had a gambler in your family, what was the one

931
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:33,333
Speaker 3: thing that worked hopefully to get them to stop? Nine

932
00:45:33,373 --> 00:45:35,652
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text number is well back

933
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:38,413
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twelve past two.

934
00:45:38,173 --> 00:45:42,733
Speaker 1: Wow, your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

935
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:46,733
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US Talk said, be.

936
00:45:48,533 --> 00:45:50,653
Speaker 3: For a good afternoon, quarter past two. We're talking about

937
00:45:50,653 --> 00:45:54,093
Speaker 3: problem gambling. If that's affected you love to hear from you,

938
00:45:54,133 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 3: Have you come out through the other side, and what

939
00:45:56,413 --> 00:45:59,373
Speaker 3: was the best way that somebody hopefully helped you to

940
00:45:59,493 --> 00:46:01,253
Speaker 3: kick the habit of eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

941
00:46:01,333 --> 00:46:03,653
Speaker 2: The sexus is gambling is a real addiction. Just because

942
00:46:03,693 --> 00:46:07,652
Speaker 2: you're a drug drug addict doesn't make my addiction any less, yeap,

943
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:10,212
Speaker 2: fair point. What I said was what I actually said

944
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:13,013
Speaker 2: was that I had a prescription drug problem that I

945
00:46:13,053 --> 00:46:14,933
Speaker 2: managed to cack. Yeah, and it was very difficult, and

946
00:46:14,973 --> 00:46:18,253
Speaker 2: it made me fully understand what addiction is like. It's

947
00:46:18,293 --> 00:46:20,293
Speaker 2: a very different from what I thought it was before

948
00:46:20,293 --> 00:46:23,013
Speaker 2: I experienced it. Yeah, But all I was saying was

949
00:46:23,053 --> 00:46:27,093
Speaker 2: that I don't really understand gambling addiction, but I absolutely

950
00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:28,813
Speaker 2: believe it's a real thing. Yeah, So we want to

951
00:46:28,813 --> 00:46:31,413
Speaker 2: try and understand a little bit more today, Leon, Welcome

952
00:46:31,453 --> 00:46:31,813
Speaker 2: to the show.

953
00:46:32,773 --> 00:46:36,613
Speaker 19: Good Cathy, guys. I owned a retail shop about thirty

954
00:46:36,693 --> 00:46:40,053
Speaker 19: years ago, and I discovered that manager it sifed off

955
00:46:40,093 --> 00:46:42,652
Speaker 19: about sixty thousand dollars then with a lot of money

956
00:46:42,693 --> 00:46:47,413
Speaker 19: as even today. So when I saw the advertising on

957
00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:52,493
Speaker 19: TB for gambling, I immediately wrote to Internal Affairs and

958
00:46:52,573 --> 00:46:55,692
Speaker 19: also got in touch with a gambling foundation and they've

959
00:46:55,693 --> 00:47:00,893
Speaker 19: been protesting against TB advertising for horse racing, whis exactly

960
00:47:00,933 --> 00:47:05,773
Speaker 19: what my manager got caught up in. So yeah, and

961
00:47:05,973 --> 00:47:10,373
Speaker 19: also at that time I got long side psychologists and

962
00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:14,253
Speaker 19: they say that gambling addiction is worse and harder to

963
00:47:14,293 --> 00:47:22,933
Speaker 19: overcome than cigarettes or alcohol and drugs. So I've got

964
00:47:22,933 --> 00:47:25,692
Speaker 19: it to reply for Internal Affairs and they simply said

965
00:47:25,693 --> 00:47:31,013
Speaker 19: it's legal. So hopefully there's the protest continues, because the

966
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,493
Speaker 19: more and more people are going to be gambling through TAB,

967
00:47:33,653 --> 00:47:38,133
Speaker 19: the more likely it's going to be an addiction to gambling.

968
00:47:39,253 --> 00:47:41,693
Speaker 2: Do you think do you feel because I mean I

969
00:47:41,773 --> 00:47:44,733
Speaker 2: do this rightly or wrong, but I think sports betting

970
00:47:45,813 --> 00:47:50,893
Speaker 2: as and you know, playing the cards or whatever isn't

971
00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:53,373
Speaker 2: as bad as the pokies. I feel like that the

972
00:47:53,373 --> 00:47:57,973
Speaker 2: pokey's thing as what's just growing and growing and growing

973
00:47:58,253 --> 00:48:00,933
Speaker 2: and doesn't give anything back at all. You know, at

974
00:48:00,973 --> 00:48:02,813
Speaker 2: least with sports beating and going to the tab, you

975
00:48:02,893 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 2: might be around some other people you know, or you

976
00:48:05,893 --> 00:48:08,652
Speaker 2: know and less and less with the online better but

977
00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:11,973
Speaker 2: you know sports, you're at least involved in the real world.

978
00:48:12,013 --> 00:48:15,333
Speaker 2: But just the sitting pulling the lever yah on the

979
00:48:15,373 --> 00:48:18,853
Speaker 2: Pokey's it just seems to be a more from one

980
00:48:18,933 --> 00:48:21,853
Speaker 2: a better word depressing kind of gambling than the other gambling.

981
00:48:21,853 --> 00:48:23,613
Speaker 3: Well, there's something cantered to it, right, that you've got

982
00:48:23,613 --> 00:48:25,533
Speaker 3: the love of a sport that you're into, whether that's

983
00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 3: horse racing or rugby or whatever. Whereas as you say Pokey's,

984
00:48:29,213 --> 00:48:31,493
Speaker 3: that's all it is. It's flashing lights and some loud

985
00:48:31,533 --> 00:48:33,933
Speaker 3: noises and you're losing a lot of money. And I

986
00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:35,453
Speaker 3: don't know whether this is true or not, but I'd

987
00:48:35,493 --> 00:48:38,853
Speaker 3: say the odds, if you're a smart sports better, are

988
00:48:38,893 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 3: probably better in your favor than the Pokeys. I actually

989
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:43,252
Speaker 3: don't know what the odds of the Pokeys are. Can't

990
00:48:43,253 --> 00:48:45,413
Speaker 3: be high. Anytime I've put a twenty dollar note in,

991
00:48:45,533 --> 00:48:47,373
Speaker 3: it's gone within two minutes and I'm like, oh, that

992
00:48:47,453 --> 00:48:47,772
Speaker 3: was fun.

993
00:48:47,853 --> 00:48:51,173
Speaker 2: Not yeah, well, well, the rewards from the Pokey's machine

994
00:48:51,213 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 2: are often just a bit of some flashing lights and

995
00:48:53,373 --> 00:48:55,973
Speaker 2: some noises, some free spin, because I mean, like any

996
00:48:55,973 --> 00:49:00,413
Speaker 2: other addiction, gambling is addictive because it hijacks the brain's

997
00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:03,813
Speaker 2: reward systems. Yeah, it just does them in a slightly

998
00:49:03,813 --> 00:49:06,893
Speaker 2: different way than alcohol does or drugs do.

999
00:49:07,093 --> 00:49:10,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, But isn't it an interesting that so people like

1000
00:49:10,293 --> 00:49:13,133
Speaker 3: yourself and people like me, it's still the same sort

1001
00:49:13,173 --> 00:49:15,453
Speaker 3: of dopamine hit, isn't it, And it's still having the

1002
00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:19,133
Speaker 3: same psychological effect to your brain. But for whatever reason,

1003
00:49:19,933 --> 00:49:22,813
Speaker 3: we are not compelled to keep going with it. Yeah,

1004
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,733
Speaker 3: whereas as you say, with drugs and some of the

1005
00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:28,293
Speaker 3: other things you can and get addic to do. I mean, nicotine,

1006
00:49:28,293 --> 00:49:30,013
Speaker 3: for goodness sake, I've tried to kick this thing so

1007
00:49:30,053 --> 00:49:32,093
Speaker 3: many times. And you know, I know that's a low

1008
00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:32,973
Speaker 3: level just for.

1009
00:49:32,973 --> 00:49:35,853
Speaker 2: People that don't have the video version of our radio show,

1010
00:49:35,853 --> 00:49:39,172
Speaker 2: which is everyone he lifted up my little vape has

1011
00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:42,212
Speaker 2: little green vape, my little nicotine friend here.

1012
00:49:42,453 --> 00:49:44,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that for some people would be low level.

1013
00:49:44,733 --> 00:49:46,973
Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, that's got inside my brain and

1014
00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:48,652
Speaker 3: I found it really difficult to get rid of. But

1015
00:49:48,693 --> 00:49:51,133
Speaker 3: Pokey's take it or leave it. Oh, eight hundred and

1016
00:49:51,133 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if Yeah,

1017
00:49:54,413 --> 00:49:57,493
Speaker 3: let's go to Trevor. Actually, Trevor ge mate, Hey, guys,

1018
00:49:57,573 --> 00:49:57,933
Speaker 3: how are.

1019
00:49:57,853 --> 00:49:58,652
Speaker 2: You very good?

1020
00:49:59,453 --> 00:49:59,692
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1021
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:02,293
Speaker 11: Look, first, well I just want to say that I'm

1022
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:05,173
Speaker 11: not too sure people that don't gambled probably don't realize

1023
00:50:05,213 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 11: the amount of money that some people do lose gambling.

1024
00:50:09,053 --> 00:50:12,613
Speaker 11: I mean right from your private little card schools right

1025
00:50:12,693 --> 00:50:15,213
Speaker 11: up to as you guys said, Las Vegas, and just

1026
00:50:15,333 --> 00:50:17,693
Speaker 11: incidentally on Las Vegas. I mean, if people want to

1027
00:50:17,733 --> 00:50:20,493
Speaker 11: know the result, and I'm a gambler and have over

1028
00:50:20,613 --> 00:50:22,653
Speaker 11: all my life, but you know, if people want to

1029
00:50:22,693 --> 00:50:24,493
Speaker 11: know about gambling, if you ever get a Las Vegas,

1030
00:50:24,533 --> 00:50:26,772
Speaker 11: which you guys sound like to have, you will see

1031
00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:30,853
Speaker 11: some of the most incredibly huge casinos and hotels and

1032
00:50:31,613 --> 00:50:37,893
Speaker 11: people them, but it's all built from losers. Yeah, I mean,

1033
00:50:38,013 --> 00:50:41,293
Speaker 11: you know, Las Vegas can be a surprisingly cheap place

1034
00:50:41,293 --> 00:50:44,652
Speaker 11: to stay accommodation wise, maybe the weekends the price goes

1035
00:50:44,693 --> 00:50:46,333
Speaker 11: up a little bit because all the Yanks go there

1036
00:50:46,373 --> 00:50:49,453
Speaker 11: as well. But and food you're going to eat quite cheap, tough.

1037
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:51,573
Speaker 11: But you know, if you see some of the billion

1038
00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:55,812
Speaker 11: dollar costing buildings over there, that cost the build indescribable really.

1039
00:50:56,253 --> 00:50:59,413
Speaker 11: Some of them have seven thousand rooms, five thousand rooms,

1040
00:50:59,773 --> 00:51:02,573
Speaker 11: and you've got to remember that is built from losing

1041
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:07,053
Speaker 11: punters and yeah, so I mean some people lose a

1042
00:51:07,053 --> 00:51:08,613
Speaker 11: lot of money. And I suppose it come to what

1043
00:51:08,613 --> 00:51:12,573
Speaker 11: we're talking about yesterday, self responsibility. I mean, some people

1044
00:51:12,573 --> 00:51:16,093
Speaker 11: would have said yesterday that like eating is like is

1045
00:51:16,093 --> 00:51:18,933
Speaker 11: an addiction and they can't help it. So it's always

1046
00:51:19,013 --> 00:51:22,212
Speaker 11: very hard to sort of take a stance on how

1047
00:51:22,293 --> 00:51:25,692
Speaker 11: far people should go to help people to stop doing

1048
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:28,772
Speaker 11: what they're doing. I mean, you know, in my job,

1049
00:51:28,853 --> 00:51:33,013
Speaker 11: I travel around and do hospitality places in that and

1050
00:51:33,253 --> 00:51:36,053
Speaker 11: I just know, I just know where I go and

1051
00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:39,333
Speaker 11: who I see. Those people in there shouldn't be there

1052
00:51:39,573 --> 00:51:42,733
Speaker 11: one hundred percent they shouldn't be there. But you know,

1053
00:51:44,613 --> 00:51:47,333
Speaker 11: I mean it's quite good now with the tab you

1054
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 11: can actually reach yourself as being turned away from a

1055
00:51:50,733 --> 00:51:54,173
Speaker 11: tabor or a gamming place, like they have your photo.

1056
00:51:54,333 --> 00:51:55,893
Speaker 11: You say you want to do this, and you go

1057
00:51:55,933 --> 00:51:58,732
Speaker 11: on a course and your photo gets put around at

1058
00:51:58,813 --> 00:52:03,293
Speaker 11: tabs and other gambling outlets, and you can, as long

1059
00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:06,293
Speaker 11: as the staff are awhere, you can actually get yourself

1060
00:52:06,413 --> 00:52:10,373
Speaker 11: a band or refuse from using the machines. But as

1061
00:52:10,413 --> 00:52:13,053
Speaker 11: I say, I think a lot of people don't realize.

1062
00:52:13,733 --> 00:52:15,773
Speaker 11: You know, I know some business people that have probably

1063
00:52:15,773 --> 00:52:18,533
Speaker 11: lost movies dollars gambling. They've still got a bit of money,

1064
00:52:18,573 --> 00:52:20,893
Speaker 11: but they would have had a lot more. So I

1065
00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:24,333
Speaker 11: suppose it's an interree topic. How far do we go

1066
00:52:24,893 --> 00:52:28,573
Speaker 11: to stop and help people with addictions? As I say,

1067
00:52:28,653 --> 00:52:32,773
Speaker 11: like yesterday, eating some drugs is one, and people ring

1068
00:52:32,853 --> 00:52:34,693
Speaker 11: up today and say, look, we should put it in

1069
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:37,453
Speaker 11: the same bucket as them. You know, we help people

1070
00:52:37,453 --> 00:52:40,252
Speaker 11: with other addictions that we about that. But as I say,

1071
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:41,933
Speaker 11: you know, it can.

1072
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:45,933
Speaker 2: Be thing, isn't it, Because you say, like you know

1073
00:52:45,973 --> 00:52:48,293
Speaker 2: that that these ways the TV stop you going and

1074
00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:50,573
Speaker 2: you can't get a new account, all that kind of stuff.

1075
00:52:51,013 --> 00:52:52,573
Speaker 2: But you also hear about those people that will bet

1076
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:54,493
Speaker 2: on anything. You know, that's a famous thing. We all

1077
00:52:54,533 --> 00:52:56,732
Speaker 2: know someone that will that will weigh, you know, put

1078
00:52:56,773 --> 00:52:59,533
Speaker 2: some money on anything. They just it's not horses, it's

1079
00:52:59,533 --> 00:53:03,533
Speaker 2: not Pokey's, it's just gambling in general. And I was

1080
00:53:03,533 --> 00:53:05,773
Speaker 2: looking at the stet before you know that they think

1081
00:53:05,973 --> 00:53:09,093
Speaker 2: it's close to a trillion and a half dollars globally

1082
00:53:09,093 --> 00:53:12,013
Speaker 2: that's spent punted on gambling in the world, and only

1083
00:53:12,013 --> 00:53:15,453
Speaker 2: about one hundred billion of it is legally right, Yeah, yeah, oh.

1084
00:53:16,133 --> 00:53:17,893
Speaker 11: No, you did right, well, listen to how this government.

1085
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:21,172
Speaker 11: I suppose in some ways people will appall them for it.

1086
00:53:21,453 --> 00:53:24,373
Speaker 11: They've made it very I think illegal were very difficult

1087
00:53:24,373 --> 00:53:30,933
Speaker 11: to back over. Bet overseas now was overseas accounts an agency. Yeah,

1088
00:53:31,013 --> 00:53:34,253
Speaker 11: and I supposed in some ways, I mean, I suppose

1089
00:53:34,493 --> 00:53:36,973
Speaker 11: you know it can you know it's good? And another

1090
00:53:37,013 --> 00:53:39,453
Speaker 11: thing a lot of people got good to understand. You know,

1091
00:53:39,533 --> 00:53:42,093
Speaker 11: the tab is they'll have their glossy airs of a group.

1092
00:53:41,853 --> 00:53:43,973
Speaker 7: Of people laughing and joking at the races.

1093
00:53:44,173 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 11: Oh, I like five dollars on a trifector or are

1094
00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:48,692
Speaker 11: one ten? But they're not the people The tb are

1095
00:53:48,733 --> 00:53:52,573
Speaker 11: after the tab are after the ten thousand dollars are

1096
00:53:52,613 --> 00:53:55,293
Speaker 11: bet people. And you know they do advertise it. Coming

1097
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:58,373
Speaker 11: home so fun five dollars with your friends. But you know,

1098
00:53:58,493 --> 00:54:00,293
Speaker 11: if the TV had their choice, you know, when there's

1099
00:54:00,293 --> 00:54:02,772
Speaker 11: a big boxing match on, people go and put their

1100
00:54:02,853 --> 00:54:05,252
Speaker 11: five dollars on. You know, used to be David tur

1101
00:54:05,333 --> 00:54:07,533
Speaker 11: to win a fight and that. But it's not those

1102
00:54:07,613 --> 00:54:10,293
Speaker 11: people that keep the gaming place is going. It's the

1103
00:54:10,373 --> 00:54:14,333
Speaker 11: people that's been tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of

1104
00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:18,173
Speaker 11: dollars a year, and gambling is a losing as a

1105
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:21,853
Speaker 11: losing option for people to take. Let me tell you that.

1106
00:54:21,933 --> 00:54:24,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a lot of people, it sounds like maybe

1107
00:54:24,093 --> 00:54:28,373
Speaker 2: your microwave is finished cooking your lunch or something. There

1108
00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:31,213
Speaker 2: sounded like panic stations in the background. Yep, thank you

1109
00:54:31,293 --> 00:54:34,333
Speaker 2: so much for you call Trevor. Appreciate it, Appreciate your insights.

1110
00:54:34,573 --> 00:54:37,533
Speaker 3: Some good teas coming through on nine to nine to two.

1111
00:54:38,053 --> 00:54:40,213
Speaker 2: I went to, oh, well, this is interesting afternoon, guys.

1112
00:54:40,373 --> 00:54:42,613
Speaker 2: I'm gambling at the moment, so it can relate. Well,

1113
00:54:43,053 --> 00:54:45,173
Speaker 2: I've had a back issue for the last four years.

1114
00:54:45,253 --> 00:54:47,533
Speaker 2: And when you feel like you're losing on most fronts

1115
00:54:47,533 --> 00:54:49,692
Speaker 2: in life, sometimes a win on the horses or even

1116
00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:53,893
Speaker 2: trade me can be exactly that, a win. And when

1117
00:54:53,933 --> 00:54:58,253
Speaker 2: it's straight races, poke's trade me on your phone, even

1118
00:54:58,453 --> 00:55:01,613
Speaker 2: just a sit waiting for a partner at the supermarkets,

1119
00:55:01,613 --> 00:55:04,533
Speaker 2: a chance to win again or lose again. That's an

1120
00:55:04,533 --> 00:55:08,252
Speaker 2: interesting one winning trade me, Yeah, winning a trade me option.

1121
00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:09,693
Speaker 2: And you know how we did that whole chat on

1122
00:55:09,693 --> 00:55:12,252
Speaker 2: trade me, yes, and how people were going off tradeing.

1123
00:55:12,493 --> 00:55:14,373
Speaker 2: I've been so on trade me since then. Have you

1124
00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:16,653
Speaker 2: I've got your back I've been buying a lot of stuff.

1125
00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:21,173
Speaker 2: What do you been buying. They'll be telling some golf stuff.

1126
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,613
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice, nice, But just Sam, it was just

1127
00:55:23,613 --> 00:55:26,212
Speaker 2: a coincidence. We did that story about people moving away

1128
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:28,652
Speaker 2: from trade me and then over the break I was like,

1129
00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:32,173
Speaker 2: not me, I'm back. I love that back, baby. But

1130
00:55:32,253 --> 00:55:34,493
Speaker 2: that is an interesting idea that people do actually get

1131
00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:37,333
Speaker 2: a dopamine hit by winning an auction. I remember once

1132
00:55:37,373 --> 00:55:39,253
Speaker 2: I won in auction to buy a house, and I

1133
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:40,813
Speaker 2: was all excited, and then I went and to sign

1134
00:55:40,853 --> 00:55:42,453
Speaker 2: the mortgage papers and I was like, what have I

1135
00:55:42,493 --> 00:55:42,933
Speaker 2: won here?

1136
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:45,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, old one, that's a buzzkill when you got to

1137
00:55:45,213 --> 00:55:47,093
Speaker 3: sign over all that money or the bank's money.

1138
00:55:47,133 --> 00:55:49,413
Speaker 2: I've won the right to pay this mortgage for many,

1139
00:55:49,413 --> 00:55:51,293
Speaker 2: many years. It is twenty five past two.

1140
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,653
Speaker 3: Taking your calls, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1141
00:55:53,693 --> 00:55:55,453
Speaker 3: How did you beat your gambling addiction?

1142
00:55:55,773 --> 00:56:03,253
Speaker 1: Bag forru surely, mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons, call oh

1143
00:56:03,293 --> 00:56:06,053
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1144
00:56:06,333 --> 00:56:09,053
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. We're talking about problem gambling. Research out

1145
00:56:09,053 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 3: at aut shows that those who managed to quit the addiction,

1146
00:56:13,893 --> 00:56:16,652
Speaker 3: so to speak, a quarter of them end up going back.

1147
00:56:16,693 --> 00:56:18,173
Speaker 3: So I'd love to hear your stories. Of breaking the

1148
00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:18,652
Speaker 3: abbit and.

1149
00:56:18,653 --> 00:56:20,652
Speaker 2: This Texas says gambling is not as addictive as myth.

1150
00:56:20,693 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 2: For example, however, you're one hundred percent more likely to

1151
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:27,373
Speaker 2: gamble than take myth plus porn, et cetera. That's true,

1152
00:56:27,373 --> 00:56:31,813
Speaker 2: actually lot more accessible, Yeah, because there's no real massive

1153
00:56:31,853 --> 00:56:35,212
Speaker 2: social cost and gambling no whereas you know, if you're

1154
00:56:35,413 --> 00:56:37,813
Speaker 2: if you're give them on the myth, you're kind of

1155
00:56:37,813 --> 00:56:40,573
Speaker 2: admitting that you're grubbing around in the dirt, aren't you.

1156
00:56:40,653 --> 00:56:44,613
Speaker 2: You've you're doing something that is as dirty.

1157
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:46,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, quite right, Well right now.

1158
00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:48,933
Speaker 2: But you know you start having a flutter on the abs. Yeah,

1159
00:56:48,973 --> 00:56:49,333
Speaker 2: you know I.

1160
00:56:49,293 --> 00:56:51,013
Speaker 3: Could do that right now and nobody's going to raise

1161
00:56:51,013 --> 00:56:51,693
Speaker 3: too many questions.

1162
00:56:51,933 --> 00:56:54,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Can you have bet on who than you

1163
00:56:54,973 --> 00:56:56,333
Speaker 2: coach Will Bit surely?

1164
00:56:56,373 --> 00:56:59,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, you bet on anything I like. I'll see

1165
00:56:59,253 --> 00:57:01,493
Speaker 3: what the odds are, see what the odds are on

1166
00:57:01,573 --> 00:57:02,213
Speaker 3: Jamie Joseph.

1167
00:57:02,493 --> 00:57:03,253
Speaker 2: That's good gambling.

1168
00:57:03,293 --> 00:57:08,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, that nineteen ninety two is the text number A

1169
00:57:08,773 --> 00:57:09,813
Speaker 3: couple more here.

1170
00:57:09,893 --> 00:57:12,173
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I work for a band and can safely

1171
00:57:12,213 --> 00:57:15,213
Speaker 2: say so many people who gamble heavily are spending taxpayers

1172
00:57:15,253 --> 00:57:19,013
Speaker 2: money as they're on benefits. It's taxpayer money going overseas

1173
00:57:19,053 --> 00:57:20,853
Speaker 2: and not circulating within New Zealand.

1174
00:57:21,133 --> 00:57:25,013
Speaker 3: Right, okay, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1175
00:57:25,053 --> 00:57:25,973
Speaker 3: that number to cool?

1176
00:57:26,093 --> 00:57:28,093
Speaker 2: Hi guys, I used to play the Pokeys and they

1177
00:57:28,093 --> 00:57:30,453
Speaker 2: can be fun, but you are living in hope. Also

1178
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:34,053
Speaker 2: the lot Also though a lot of the regulars that

1179
00:57:34,133 --> 00:57:36,973
Speaker 2: small venues are possibly lonely, and they sit there having

1180
00:57:37,013 --> 00:57:38,733
Speaker 2: a drink and a chat. And one lady told me

1181
00:57:38,773 --> 00:57:41,733
Speaker 2: it's good for her mental health. It's all about controlling it.

1182
00:57:42,453 --> 00:57:44,773
Speaker 2: But I keep away now, thanks Paul. Yeah, I mean

1183
00:57:44,853 --> 00:57:46,973
Speaker 2: if you're having a checks. When I look into Pokey's rooms,

1184
00:57:46,973 --> 00:57:49,013
Speaker 2: I don't see people having a chat. No, you know,

1185
00:57:49,093 --> 00:57:51,453
Speaker 2: like you've got the glamorous gambling that you get in

1186
00:57:51,493 --> 00:57:54,533
Speaker 2: the movies like Casino Royale, where you're sitting around a

1187
00:57:54,573 --> 00:57:57,093
Speaker 2: table with a beautiful lady on your arm.

1188
00:57:57,093 --> 00:57:58,133
Speaker 3: Having a nice martini.

1189
00:57:58,253 --> 00:58:01,333
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, there's that kind of gambling, which means very social.

1190
00:58:01,373 --> 00:58:03,053
Speaker 3: It's very lady d Yeah yeah.

1191
00:58:02,973 --> 00:58:05,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, although you can get poisoned. Well that's what happened

1192
00:58:05,293 --> 00:58:07,693
Speaker 2: to Netick can move anyway, that's by the bye. But

1193
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:10,053
Speaker 2: when I look at Pokey so I don't see a

1194
00:58:10,093 --> 00:58:12,533
Speaker 2: lot of talk. Yeah, I see a lot of people

1195
00:58:12,613 --> 00:58:15,093
Speaker 2: just sitting there staring into the machine.

1196
00:58:15,133 --> 00:58:17,693
Speaker 3: I think you can you can spot the locals who

1197
00:58:17,853 --> 00:58:19,293
Speaker 3: for lack of a bit of word. But you know,

1198
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:20,613
Speaker 3: there'll be a lot of people that go into a

1199
00:58:20,653 --> 00:58:22,213
Speaker 3: pub and just have a bit of fun on the pokey's.

1200
00:58:22,213 --> 00:58:24,413
Speaker 3: But you're right, the one sitting in the corner. They're

1201
00:58:24,453 --> 00:58:27,093
Speaker 3: not saying a word to anyone. There's no socializing going on. No,

1202
00:58:27,213 --> 00:58:30,133
Speaker 3: they're just pulling that while they're pressing the button these days.

1203
00:58:30,213 --> 00:58:32,893
Speaker 2: And by all accounts, sometimes just winging where they sit. Yeah,

1204
00:58:32,893 --> 00:58:35,013
Speaker 2: good time, Hi guys. I had the opportunity to work

1205
00:58:35,013 --> 00:58:37,333
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks and Melbourne stayed at the Crown.

1206
00:58:37,853 --> 00:58:39,573
Speaker 2: On my way to the office, i'd walk through the

1207
00:58:39,573 --> 00:58:42,173
Speaker 2: casino hall often at six am. The hall was busy

1208
00:58:42,733 --> 00:58:45,093
Speaker 2: with the same people from the night before. I really

1209
00:58:45,093 --> 00:58:49,253
Speaker 2: felt they were absolutely hooked and lost. Yeah, I may.

1210
00:58:49,853 --> 00:58:51,973
Speaker 2: I worked breakfast radio for a very long time and

1211
00:58:52,213 --> 00:58:56,573
Speaker 2: had a park, yeah low, a casino and it is

1212
00:58:56,613 --> 00:59:00,013
Speaker 2: interesting when you were arriving at work at five fifteen am,

1213
00:59:00,373 --> 00:59:02,853
Speaker 2: the people you see coming down the lift, I don't

1214
00:59:02,933 --> 00:59:03,693
Speaker 2: seem that happy.

1215
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:08,093
Speaker 3: No, there wouldn't be too many smiles on their faces.

1216
00:59:06,893 --> 00:59:09,253
Speaker 2: Interesting enough though. Some of the big success overhead was

1217
00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:12,613
Speaker 2: at the Crown in Melbourne, right, yeah, on the tables. Yeah,

1218
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:14,893
Speaker 2: so and with my padaems because I was over covering

1219
00:59:14,893 --> 00:59:19,173
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup and so I had my padaems. Great

1220
00:59:19,253 --> 00:59:21,773
Speaker 2: use of the padams, have them on the roulette table.

1221
00:59:22,213 --> 00:59:24,013
Speaker 2: Was making some money, made some more on black jack.

1222
00:59:24,093 --> 00:59:25,493
Speaker 2: I made so much money and then I looked over

1223
00:59:25,533 --> 00:59:28,853
Speaker 2: and my friend Jeremy Wells was over on the the roulette.

1224
00:59:28,853 --> 00:59:30,693
Speaker 2: I went over and there was a crowd. There was

1225
00:59:30,733 --> 00:59:33,733
Speaker 2: a crowd gathering around him a street. He was just

1226
00:59:33,733 --> 00:59:37,453
Speaker 2: I went over. He goes, it's the corner's Matt, the corners.

1227
00:59:37,493 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 2: You can't lose. And we just made so much money.

1228
00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:43,533
Speaker 2: We had just a mirror Australian dollars just filling pockets

1229
00:59:43,573 --> 00:59:47,253
Speaker 2: and everything. And I was like of cracked gambling with

1230
00:59:47,293 --> 00:59:49,613
Speaker 2: crack gambling, which just got money everywhere. Yeah, but then

1231
00:59:50,773 --> 00:59:52,573
Speaker 2: you put it all on black bought a lovely suit.

1232
00:59:52,813 --> 00:59:53,053
Speaker 3: Nice.

1233
00:59:53,053 --> 00:59:56,933
Speaker 2: So we're to the to the races. But the next

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00:59:56,933 --> 00:59:59,333
Speaker 2: time lost of it.

1235
00:59:59,973 --> 01:00:01,933
Speaker 3: How they get you, how they get you? All right,

1236
01:00:02,013 --> 01:00:03,573
Speaker 3: we'll take you more of your calls. Eight hundred and

1237
01:00:03,573 --> 01:00:06,773
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty headlines with ray Lean coming up. Stay

1238
01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:07,653
Speaker 3: right here, We'll be back.

1239
01:00:07,653 --> 01:00:13,093
Speaker 1: For surely you've talks at be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

1240
01:00:13,213 --> 01:00:16,533
Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Extreme rain is

1241
01:00:16,533 --> 01:00:19,933
Speaker 14: putting holiday makers and homes in low lying areas at

1242
01:00:20,053 --> 01:00:23,333
Speaker 14: risk across the Upper North Island and people should make

1243
01:00:23,373 --> 01:00:27,213
Speaker 14: plans in case they need to evacuate. Precautionary states of

1244
01:00:27,293 --> 01:00:31,293
Speaker 14: emergency have been declared for the Farangada and Thames Corimandel districts,

1245
01:00:31,573 --> 01:00:34,693
Speaker 14: with red rain warnings for the Bay of plenty Rutadua,

1246
01:00:34,893 --> 01:00:39,293
Speaker 14: Northland Corimandel Peninsula and Gisbon District north of Tolliga Bay.

1247
01:00:39,853 --> 01:00:42,853
Speaker 14: Orange rain warnings cover most other parts of the Eastern

1248
01:00:42,893 --> 01:00:46,613
Speaker 14: and Upper North Island Land and drone searchers are underway

1249
01:00:46,613 --> 01:00:49,373
Speaker 14: and heavy weather looking for a man washed away in

1250
01:00:49,413 --> 01:00:53,413
Speaker 14: a car trying to Ford Mahoudangi River near Walkworth, north

1251
01:00:53,413 --> 01:00:57,093
Speaker 14: of Auckland. Labour's leaders says the party is ready to

1252
01:00:57,133 --> 01:01:00,293
Speaker 14: campaign for a November seven election announced by the Prime

1253
01:01:00,333 --> 01:01:06,413
Speaker 14: Minister today. Auckland's wine Yard Quarter residents decry indefensible twenty

1254
01:01:06,453 --> 01:01:09,973
Speaker 14: three story waterfront building place lands Seymour At in Zend

1255
01:01:10,013 --> 01:01:12,853
Speaker 14: Herald Premium now back to Matt Eth and Tyler Adams.

1256
01:01:12,933 --> 01:01:15,413
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylane. So we're talking about problem.

1257
01:01:15,293 --> 01:01:17,813
Speaker 2: Raylian's news public knowledge.

1258
01:01:18,373 --> 01:01:22,533
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I think it is Rayleane. You're still there. Yes, yes,

1259
01:01:22,613 --> 01:01:25,133
Speaker 3: she's come back. I think I think most people know.

1260
01:01:25,493 --> 01:01:27,013
Speaker 3: It's a big day for you today, Raylean.

1261
01:01:27,733 --> 01:01:31,613
Speaker 2: Yes, it is a big day. Forty years with the company.

1262
01:01:32,693 --> 01:01:36,493
Speaker 3: Forty Yes, well done, happy fortieth anniversary.

1263
01:01:36,573 --> 01:01:40,413
Speaker 2: Looking at the shots of you and Lively breakfast radio

1264
01:01:40,453 --> 01:01:41,373
Speaker 2: teams back in the day.

1265
01:01:41,453 --> 01:01:44,013
Speaker 14: Oh yes, it's what we all had to do, Matt,

1266
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:44,453
Speaker 14: wasn't it.

1267
01:01:44,893 --> 01:01:47,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's as we climbed our way up

1268
01:01:47,053 --> 01:01:47,613
Speaker 2: to zibeak.

1269
01:01:47,733 --> 01:01:48,573
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1270
01:01:49,573 --> 01:01:53,973
Speaker 2: So you know, forty years in radio, more more more

1271
01:01:54,013 --> 01:01:56,813
Speaker 2: in radio, though, haven't you, Because you've been ou sweare

1272
01:01:56,813 --> 01:01:57,453
Speaker 2: as well, haven't you.

1273
01:01:57,573 --> 01:02:01,613
Speaker 14: Oh no, yeah, no, I actually started fifty years ago

1274
01:02:01,773 --> 01:02:06,093
Speaker 14: but went away just overseas and came back. But all

1275
01:02:06,133 --> 01:02:08,813
Speaker 14: the time has always been in radio, and all with

1276
01:02:09,093 --> 01:02:13,613
Speaker 14: this company, even though I was asked to jump the pond.

1277
01:02:13,373 --> 01:02:14,093
Speaker 2: Every now and again.

1278
01:02:14,133 --> 01:02:17,733
Speaker 14: But no, no, no, it's just such an amazing medium,

1279
01:02:17,773 --> 01:02:18,413
Speaker 14: as you both know.

1280
01:02:18,613 --> 01:02:22,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a fantastic medium, and you're a fantastic broadcaster.

1281
01:02:22,453 --> 01:02:25,253
Speaker 2: So that's why you've been in the game as long

1282
01:02:25,253 --> 01:02:25,733
Speaker 2: as you have been.

1283
01:02:25,813 --> 01:02:28,133
Speaker 14: If you just hang around long enough, they go, oh okay,

1284
01:02:28,173 --> 01:02:28,653
Speaker 14: we'll keep you.

1285
01:02:28,733 --> 01:02:31,813
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, thank you, huge milestone. Thank you

1286
01:02:31,933 --> 01:02:34,293
Speaker 3: very much, ray Lean. Awesome. All right, we are talking

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Speaker 3: about problem gambling. This is after research that shows many

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Speaker 3: problem gamblers who managed to break the addiction. Unfortunately, twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent of them go back into it. So if

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Speaker 3: you've managed to beat the addiction, love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I was addicted Pokey's and Brisbane. After being banned from pubs,

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01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,053
Speaker 2: the only place to go is the casino. Luckily I

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01:02:51,093 --> 01:02:53,693
Speaker 2: am not anymore. I would spend my whole paycheck on

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01:02:53,733 --> 01:02:56,213
Speaker 2: Pokey's payday and be broke for the week. I'm interested

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Speaker 2: to find out how you got off it because this

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01:02:58,933 --> 01:03:03,173
Speaker 2: new research is saying that twenty five percent of those

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Speaker 2: problem gamblers that get off YEP end up back on,

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Speaker 2: which actually isn't you know, I know that's terrible, but

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Speaker 2: when you get that number, you're like people that get

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Speaker 2: off drugs and get off alcohol. You know, a lot

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Speaker 2: more in that back on or smoking.

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Speaker 1: Don't they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I'd say so, yeah, yeah, we'll look

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Speaker 3: into those figures being welcome of the show.

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Speaker 15: Hey fellows, good the reviews follows back, thank you mate,

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Speaker 15: and congratulations ray Lean. The voice, what a what a

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01:03:33,933 --> 01:03:37,453
Speaker 15: powerful voice. He's like, hither she's got that voice. You

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Speaker 15: don't argue with it. Sorry whatever, but.

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Speaker 2: I've never never never will unwise.

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Speaker 15: It's a bit of a positive story here, like I'm

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Speaker 15: I'm just uh uh yeah follow trance a positive light

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Speaker 15: on things. Obviously, you know, gambling, I've seen the side

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Speaker 15: of it. I mean, thank you back. I used to

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Speaker 15: work in the Freedom works. Were used to get paid

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Speaker 15: and catch for a packet and this is down in

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Speaker 15: laundel down and near and the cargo, and I've seen

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Speaker 15: guys putting their whole pay packet on the table when

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Speaker 15: there was gambling going on at Smogo. I've heard stories

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01:04:24,573 --> 01:04:27,693
Speaker 15: about how you know, even in prisons, you know they're

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Speaker 15: gambling on things like the road toll. And obviously with

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Speaker 15: the day today, the date then announced today, seventh of November,

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01:04:36,853 --> 01:04:40,333
Speaker 15: there would have been gambling going on for that. Anything anything,

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01:04:40,453 --> 01:04:42,013
Speaker 15: get the hands on the people are going to do it.

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Speaker 15: And it's just the way life is. But look, I've

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01:04:45,413 --> 01:04:52,373
Speaker 15: got a brother and he's real academic mind. He did

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01:04:52,413 --> 01:04:57,653
Speaker 15: the university thing and ended up working in the banks.

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Speaker 15: He used to do a home tawney when he was

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Speaker 15: back at the university, and he did his home tournament thing.

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Speaker 15: There's a poker man and all the profits that he'd

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01:05:07,733 --> 01:05:09,613
Speaker 15: made from that he used to take to the casino

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01:05:09,773 --> 01:05:14,613
Speaker 15: and it was a big part. I mean, I just

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01:05:14,693 --> 01:05:16,533
Speaker 15: used to sit back and observe. You know, obviously he

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01:05:16,613 --> 01:05:18,933
Speaker 15: got the brains. I'm good with my hands.

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Speaker 8: But.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, seeing him go through that struggle and then I'm

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01:05:31,773 --> 01:05:35,613
Speaker 15: proud of the guy now, like he's just he's doing that.

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Speaker 15: He's probably listening to this. Now, he's got to set up.

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Speaker 15: He's got four screens in front of them. He's got

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Speaker 15: a couple of screens that are dedicated to the different

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01:05:43,813 --> 01:05:47,053
Speaker 15: news stations, and he's got the radios going. And he's

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01:05:47,253 --> 01:05:51,213
Speaker 15: what they call a day trader, right, right, So you

1342
01:05:51,253 --> 01:05:52,933
Speaker 15: remember back in the days when we have the old

1343
01:05:52,933 --> 01:05:56,373
Speaker 15: stock exchange and a whole bunch of people in suits

1344
01:05:56,693 --> 01:06:00,613
Speaker 15: standing around talking on phones. And then came to the crypto.

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Speaker 15: I think he had a bit of a devil in

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01:06:01,933 --> 01:06:02,813
Speaker 15: the crypto.

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Speaker 8: But.

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Speaker 15: He's he's absolutely correct it. Now he went over to

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01:06:09,133 --> 01:06:12,133
Speaker 15: Australia opened up an account over there because it's all

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Speaker 15: through the Aussie So I don't know much about it,

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01:06:14,293 --> 01:06:17,373
Speaker 15: you know, Like he tried to explain it to me.

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01:06:18,013 --> 01:06:22,053
Speaker 15: He's showing me all these screens and it just looks

1353
01:06:22,093 --> 01:06:27,053
Speaker 15: like absolutely drivel to me. But I've seen the bank

1354
01:06:27,133 --> 01:06:30,453
Speaker 15: balances just every day and just give you an idea,

1355
01:06:30,573 --> 01:06:34,653
Speaker 15: like some ye these he does have losses, but he

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01:06:34,653 --> 01:06:36,373
Speaker 15: has wins. And when he has wins, I mean that,

1357
01:06:37,013 --> 01:06:39,893
Speaker 15: you know, he's cracking about three to six grand a

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Speaker 15: day just through trading.

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Speaker 2: With with with that, do you so it's it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a it's gambling, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: So he's like he comes from a he comes from

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01:06:52,733 --> 01:06:56,253
Speaker 15: a background of gambling. He was an addicted gambler to

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Speaker 15: the day for the team.

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Speaker 2: Did you say that he is still He's still a gambler,

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Speaker 2: He's just being a bit more more of a area.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 15: This is the thing. Then when you'd say you and

1368
01:07:09,013 --> 01:07:12,853
Speaker 15: I tell him, you know, I'm exactly like you say, hey,

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01:07:12,933 --> 01:07:15,253
Speaker 15: then you're just a glorified gambler.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did he learn from when he went through the poker

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Speaker 3: era and he obviously lost a bit of money, then

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01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,453
Speaker 3: it was pretty tough for him. Did he learn from

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01:07:24,453 --> 01:07:26,333
Speaker 3: that now that he's doing day trading, which is a

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01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:29,093
Speaker 3: different type of gambling, has he got strategies in place

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01:07:29,133 --> 01:07:33,973
Speaker 3: that when he's up he's a bit more strategic on it.

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Speaker 15: It's ridiculous, Like I've seen we'll get together and have

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01:07:37,733 --> 01:07:40,213
Speaker 15: a beer and then you know some days he's now,

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01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:42,293
Speaker 15: I'm not having a beer because I've got to I've

1380
01:07:42,293 --> 01:07:43,733
Speaker 15: got to do this tomorrow. So he's got to have

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01:07:43,773 --> 01:07:48,213
Speaker 15: a clear head. And you know, you just see the dedication.

1382
01:07:48,813 --> 01:07:50,613
Speaker 15: You know, we'll be trying to do some fishing and

1383
01:07:50,653 --> 01:07:52,213
Speaker 15: he's on his phone checking this and there.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's still sounds a.

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01:07:54,973 --> 01:07:55,213
Speaker 11: Bit like.

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Speaker 15: No, no, but no, I've seen that. Like I said,

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Speaker 15: he went to university, he got himself a job with

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Speaker 15: the banks, and he wasn't just a talent. He was

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01:08:07,493 --> 01:08:11,853
Speaker 15: up there in the office as doing some whatever you

1390
01:08:11,893 --> 01:08:15,613
Speaker 15: do up in the officers there. But he's quit his

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01:08:15,733 --> 01:08:19,652
Speaker 15: job because he makes more he makes. Yeah, I've seen

1392
01:08:19,693 --> 01:08:21,253
Speaker 15: some of the I've seen some of the pay it like,

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01:08:21,372 --> 01:08:22,733
Speaker 15: it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 18: Oll.

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Speaker 2: Thank if you call Ben, and best of best of

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Speaker 2: luck to your brother out there with the with the

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Speaker 2: day trading.

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Speaker 3: When it goes well, it goes well. And I know

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01:08:30,772 --> 01:08:34,093
Speaker 3: there's very successful people out there day trading. I don't

1400
01:08:34,173 --> 01:08:36,053
Speaker 3: understand the ins and outs myself, but I know it's

1401
01:08:36,093 --> 01:08:39,132
Speaker 3: clearly gambling. You've got to be very very clear and careful.

1402
01:08:39,452 --> 01:08:42,852
Speaker 2: But you know you can. You know, the more you read,

1403
01:08:42,973 --> 01:08:45,612
Speaker 2: the more you can understand. You can be you know,

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01:08:45,732 --> 01:08:47,852
Speaker 2: at least as opposed to the Pokeys. It doesn't matter

1405
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:49,973
Speaker 2: how much you research pokis, you don't not give you

1406
01:08:50,053 --> 01:08:53,692
Speaker 2: any advantage. Yeah, but at least with the stock market,

1407
01:08:54,093 --> 01:08:58,773
Speaker 2: you can read trends, understand things. You know, look at basics.

1408
01:08:58,973 --> 01:09:01,492
Speaker 3: You know, there's get the odds in your favor.

1409
01:09:01,853 --> 01:09:04,052
Speaker 2: You can move. You have more say on the odds

1410
01:09:04,213 --> 01:09:06,732
Speaker 2: than just pulling a lever, right, yeah, very pressing a button,

1411
01:09:06,772 --> 01:09:09,452
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly. Absolutely. It's interesting what Ben

1412
01:09:09,452 --> 01:09:12,293
Speaker 2: were saying at started that though, around when people used

1413
01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:15,772
Speaker 2: to get paid their get their paycheck and all to

1414
01:09:15,772 --> 01:09:19,572
Speaker 2: get their money just to envelope was that because now,

1415
01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:21,492
Speaker 2: you know, I talk a lot a lot about James

1416
01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:24,173
Speaker 2: Clear and big fan of that Atomic Habits book, and

1417
01:09:24,213 --> 01:09:25,732
Speaker 2: you know he talks about and you know, make all

1418
01:09:25,772 --> 01:09:28,572
Speaker 2: your habits automatic set up, you know, direct debits and

1419
01:09:28,572 --> 01:09:31,093
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So a lot of that

1420
01:09:31,173 --> 01:09:33,253
Speaker 2: good stuff that you need to do. How much you save,

1421
01:09:33,333 --> 01:09:34,932
Speaker 2: how much you put towards your mortgage, all that kind

1422
01:09:34,933 --> 01:09:38,012
Speaker 2: of stuff is automatic. Imagine that you're getting just getting

1423
01:09:38,053 --> 01:09:41,572
Speaker 2: your money in your pocket. You have to deliver a

1424
01:09:41,612 --> 01:09:45,052
Speaker 2: certain amount of it to the landlord or to your mortgage,

1425
01:09:45,093 --> 01:09:48,252
Speaker 2: to your bank. That must have taken a huge amount

1426
01:09:48,412 --> 01:09:49,732
Speaker 2: of willpower back in the day.

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01:09:50,213 --> 01:09:52,573
Speaker 3: Because it's a Friday at four o'clock, it's on knockoff,

1428
01:09:52,652 --> 01:09:54,532
Speaker 3: and most people going straight down to the pub. So

1429
01:09:54,612 --> 01:09:58,692
Speaker 3: you've got your little brown envelope with stacks of cash, all.

1430
01:09:58,652 --> 01:10:02,492
Speaker 2: The grocery money, the killed kid's uniform money, all of

1431
01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:04,372
Speaker 2: your life just coming into your pocket, and you have

1432
01:10:04,452 --> 01:10:07,412
Speaker 2: to use your personal self control to spend it the

1433
01:10:07,452 --> 01:10:08,972
Speaker 2: way that a ne to be spent.

1434
01:10:09,133 --> 01:10:13,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, dangerous, I would have been bankrupt. It is sixteen

1435
01:10:13,213 --> 01:10:15,572
Speaker 3: to two three. Taking more of your cause problem gambling.

1436
01:10:15,612 --> 01:10:17,732
Speaker 3: If you come through the other side, keen to hear

1437
01:10:17,772 --> 01:10:19,493
Speaker 3: how you did it back for shortly.

1438
01:10:20,093 --> 01:10:23,532
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

1439
01:10:23,853 --> 01:10:28,213
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

1440
01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:29,092
Speaker 2: That'd be very good afternoon.

1441
01:10:29,173 --> 01:10:32,333
Speaker 3: Sure it is thirteen to three.

1442
01:10:33,572 --> 01:10:36,773
Speaker 1: This is a news talks dead be developing story.

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01:10:36,692 --> 01:10:40,413
Speaker 3: Yes, and developing news. Baya plenty has joined Thames Corimandel

1444
01:10:40,492 --> 01:10:43,173
Speaker 3: and FUNGED eight to become the third district declaring a

1445
01:10:43,253 --> 01:10:47,572
Speaker 3: state of emergency. The local Civil Defense Emergency Management says

1446
01:10:47,652 --> 01:10:51,052
Speaker 3: it's a precautionary approach to ensure they can respond quickly

1447
01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:53,932
Speaker 3: to help keep people safe. Safe. So just repeating that.

1448
01:10:54,093 --> 01:10:57,012
Speaker 3: Beya Plenty has now joined Thames Coromandel and FUNCTA eight

1449
01:10:57,053 --> 01:11:00,293
Speaker 3: to become the third district declaring a state of emergency.

1450
01:11:00,652 --> 01:11:01,692
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1451
01:11:01,772 --> 01:11:03,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, full noise and there'd be more to come. I

1452
01:11:03,812 --> 01:11:06,253
Speaker 3: mean just looking outside the window. And thankfully Auckland is

1453
01:11:06,293 --> 01:11:07,732
Speaker 3: not in the one of the red zones, but it

1454
01:11:07,812 --> 01:11:11,173
Speaker 3: is barking down out there, so you know, I hope

1455
01:11:11,173 --> 01:11:13,372
Speaker 3: if you're in those districts you are safe and as

1456
01:11:13,452 --> 01:11:14,013
Speaker 3: dry as can be.

1457
01:11:14,213 --> 01:11:14,452
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1458
01:11:14,532 --> 01:11:17,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bloody winter, isn't it, Certes, Yeah, what happened

1459
01:11:17,452 --> 01:11:18,372
Speaker 3: in the summer winter in the.

1460
01:11:18,372 --> 01:11:20,492
Speaker 2: Middle of summer. Hey there, love your show, says this

1461
01:11:20,612 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 2: text as always bless you. I just want to add

1462
01:11:23,293 --> 01:11:25,812
Speaker 2: it's interesting how pokeys and sports betting are clearly labeled

1463
01:11:25,812 --> 01:11:28,412
Speaker 2: as gambling, well, lotto tends to be viewed differently. It's

1464
01:11:28,412 --> 01:11:30,932
Speaker 2: still gambling, paying money for a chance of an outcome,

1465
01:11:30,973 --> 01:11:34,493
Speaker 2: but social norms have made it feel more acceptable. Absolutely,

1466
01:11:34,772 --> 01:11:36,892
Speaker 2: you don't think about gambling like that. And actually Rob

1467
01:11:36,933 --> 01:11:39,092
Speaker 2: texta before and said, here you go talking about gambling,

1468
01:11:39,093 --> 01:11:40,132
Speaker 2: but do you buy a lot of tickets?

1469
01:11:40,492 --> 01:11:40,692
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1470
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:40,932
Speaker 15: I do.

1471
01:11:41,293 --> 01:11:44,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, a lot of pumps a bunch of money

1472
01:11:44,053 --> 01:11:45,213
Speaker 2: back into the community though.

1473
01:11:45,173 --> 01:11:47,852
Speaker 3: Right, it does. Yeah, and I would I would argue

1474
01:11:47,973 --> 01:11:50,412
Speaker 3: that POKESO in New Zealand they do. Yep, they go

1475
01:11:50,452 --> 01:11:52,412
Speaker 3: back to sporting organizations, I will say with a lot

1476
01:11:52,412 --> 01:11:54,852
Speaker 3: of though I think they're pretty strict. They can see

1477
01:11:54,853 --> 01:11:58,132
Speaker 3: if you do it online. Actually I've just been hoisted

1478
01:11:58,133 --> 01:12:01,333
Speaker 3: by my own patat have you. Yeah, that's the right phrase.

1479
01:12:01,492 --> 01:12:03,173
Speaker 3: If you actually go into a supermarket and buy your

1480
01:12:03,213 --> 01:12:05,213
Speaker 3: lotto ticket, there's no way to stop there. I was

1481
01:12:05,253 --> 01:12:07,452
Speaker 3: just thinking online these chicks and balances that if you

1482
01:12:07,492 --> 01:12:10,173
Speaker 3: spend too much. But your point, oh one hundred and

1483
01:12:10,173 --> 01:12:11,492
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1484
01:12:11,612 --> 01:12:15,772
Speaker 2: And Sam says, I know you're just back, but I've

1485
01:12:15,772 --> 01:12:18,972
Speaker 2: got to correct your speech. It's per diem, not per daem. Essentially,

1486
01:12:19,013 --> 01:12:20,492
Speaker 2: I've always called it a per daem because when I

1487
01:12:20,532 --> 01:12:21,812
Speaker 2: get paid to per dam, I thought I got it

1488
01:12:21,853 --> 01:12:22,213
Speaker 2: per day.

1489
01:12:22,973 --> 01:12:25,133
Speaker 3: Make us a per diem. Yeah, there's some logic.

1490
01:12:24,812 --> 01:12:28,612
Speaker 2: In there, So thanks Sam. Keep us honest. Gary used

1491
01:12:28,652 --> 01:12:35,253
Speaker 2: to work for a big international casino group, Gary, Gary,

1492
01:12:35,372 --> 01:12:39,412
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry Gary, I didn't I hadn't turned your phone on.

1493
01:12:39,452 --> 01:12:41,933
Speaker 2: So can you go from the starting in mate?

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01:12:43,173 --> 01:12:48,532
Speaker 16: Okay, Hi guys, Hi, long time, long time listener, first

1495
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:51,333
Speaker 16: time caller, and.

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01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:54,213
Speaker 2: Nice to have you back, Nice to talk to you.

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01:12:55,293 --> 01:12:59,293
Speaker 16: Yeah. So, yes, I didn't actually work for them. I

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Speaker 16: was called into a meeting with a big international group

1499
01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:12,213
Speaker 16: of casino builders globally based in Switzerland, and I got

1500
01:13:12,253 --> 01:13:16,333
Speaker 16: the inside skinny on all of these things you're talking about,

1501
01:13:16,372 --> 01:13:22,372
Speaker 16: the dopamine directing and the algorithms, and so what they

1502
01:13:22,532 --> 01:13:25,532
Speaker 16: talked about, and what you realize is when you go

1503
01:13:25,612 --> 01:13:30,333
Speaker 16: to a casino, right, there's no clock, so they don't

1504
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:32,412
Speaker 16: want you to know what time it is. There are

1505
01:13:32,412 --> 01:13:38,453
Speaker 16: no windows so you can't see out, and so the breakfast,

1506
01:13:38,452 --> 01:13:41,572
Speaker 16: for example, runs all day, so you never really know

1507
01:13:42,333 --> 01:13:46,173
Speaker 16: what time it is. That's part of the plot. And

1508
01:13:46,253 --> 01:13:51,933
Speaker 16: then the machines near the exits, for example, are primed

1509
01:13:51,973 --> 01:13:57,892
Speaker 16: to go off more regularly, so that when people may

1510
01:13:57,893 --> 01:14:01,093
Speaker 16: be near that area, it keeps them coming back as

1511
01:14:01,093 --> 01:14:04,052
Speaker 16: they get more excited with the bells and whistles going off.

1512
01:14:04,893 --> 01:14:09,052
Speaker 16: And the same thing. They do that in the same

1513
01:14:09,093 --> 01:14:15,053
Speaker 16: way to machines that are alongside the restaurants, so that

1514
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:19,973
Speaker 16: it's a constant call to people to come back and

1515
01:14:20,093 --> 01:14:27,133
Speaker 16: spend some more money. And another thing that shocked me

1516
01:14:27,213 --> 01:14:30,732
Speaker 16: a little bit was a lot of these casinos pretend

1517
01:14:30,812 --> 01:14:38,333
Speaker 16: to offer social counseling for people who are addicted. And

1518
01:14:38,492 --> 01:14:40,612
Speaker 16: I can remember the guy saying, Oh, I don't worry

1519
01:14:40,612 --> 01:14:43,253
Speaker 16: about that, we'll shut that down soon. That's just there

1520
01:14:43,452 --> 01:14:46,893
Speaker 16: to you know, get us the license behavl.

1521
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:51,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Gary and

1522
01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:52,053
Speaker 2: your insights.

1523
01:14:52,213 --> 01:14:52,412
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1524
01:14:52,452 --> 01:14:54,293
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all we support through.

1525
01:14:54,412 --> 01:14:54,612
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1526
01:14:54,652 --> 01:14:57,132
Speaker 2: I think one of the interesting things about gambling, as

1527
01:14:57,492 --> 01:15:00,253
Speaker 2: you know, it's all about the unpredictable rewards. The brain

1528
01:15:00,333 --> 01:15:03,492
Speaker 2: releases don't mean not just when you win, but when

1529
01:15:03,532 --> 01:15:08,133
Speaker 2: you might win. So the uncertainty is a powerful because

1530
01:15:08,412 --> 01:15:12,253
Speaker 2: it trains the brain to repeat the behavior, and near

1531
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:18,253
Speaker 2: misses activate the same pleasure centers as wins. It's very

1532
01:15:18,372 --> 01:15:22,093
Speaker 2: very clever how it works. So you get a nearly one,

1533
01:15:22,293 --> 01:15:24,173
Speaker 2: and so you get a buzz, see that, And so

1534
01:15:24,213 --> 01:15:25,933
Speaker 2: they don't. The pocas doesn't have to pay out on

1535
01:15:25,973 --> 01:15:28,852
Speaker 2: a nearly one, but it gives you nearly as good

1536
01:15:28,893 --> 01:15:31,412
Speaker 2: a buzz, And then people forget about the emotional thing

1537
01:15:31,452 --> 01:15:33,253
Speaker 2: because you see people on the pokeis and they kind

1538
01:15:33,253 --> 01:15:36,852
Speaker 2: of look a bit depressed generally. But gambling does offer

1539
01:15:37,093 --> 01:15:39,852
Speaker 2: an instant like alcohol does, and an incident sort of

1540
01:15:40,213 --> 01:15:44,052
Speaker 2: relief from stress and boredom, so that the brain learns

1541
01:15:44,093 --> 01:15:46,973
Speaker 2: that they can go there, and it's a source of

1542
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:50,052
Speaker 2: all these dopamine hits. But yeah, not all the dope

1543
01:15:50,053 --> 01:15:52,772
Speaker 2: meine hits are from winning. Just the flashing of the lights,

1544
01:15:52,812 --> 01:15:57,293
Speaker 2: the near winds, the change, the repetitive nature of it.

1545
01:15:57,372 --> 01:16:00,213
Speaker 3: You know, I felt that on the roulette are not.

1546
01:16:00,213 --> 01:16:03,012
Speaker 2: The unrepetitive, the novel nature of it, everything's different.

1547
01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:06,572
Speaker 3: They also get you. I mean on the roulette, Will,

1548
01:16:06,572 --> 01:16:09,612
Speaker 3: for example, I know that the chance is always the

1549
01:16:09,612 --> 01:16:11,972
Speaker 3: same if I go for a particular number. I know

1550
01:16:12,093 --> 01:16:13,973
Speaker 3: that the odds are deep down in my brain the

1551
01:16:13,973 --> 01:16:15,812
Speaker 3: odds are always going to be the same of getting

1552
01:16:15,812 --> 01:16:17,972
Speaker 3: that number. But part of my brain, when I'm playing

1553
01:16:17,973 --> 01:16:20,133
Speaker 3: the roulette, Will thinks that if I pick twenty eight,

1554
01:16:20,173 --> 01:16:22,692
Speaker 3: for example, and it's not twenty eight, then I think, oh,

1555
01:16:22,732 --> 01:16:24,452
Speaker 3: I've got a better chance of twenty eight this time

1556
01:16:24,532 --> 01:16:27,253
Speaker 3: because it wasn't twenty eight before, And deep down you

1557
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,852
Speaker 3: kind of know the logic isn't right, but it gets

1558
01:16:29,893 --> 01:16:30,412
Speaker 3: over ridden.

1559
01:16:30,612 --> 01:16:33,172
Speaker 2: That's what leads to people just winging in the seat

1560
01:16:33,532 --> 01:16:36,612
Speaker 2: as they're like, I've been here so long that twenty

1561
01:16:36,652 --> 01:16:38,092
Speaker 2: eight's bound to come up because it hasn't.

1562
01:16:38,492 --> 01:16:39,972
Speaker 3: Beck In the moment, it is seventy three.

1563
01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:44,772
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1564
01:16:44,812 --> 01:16:48,732
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks

1565
01:16:48,853 --> 01:16:55,412
Speaker 1: ed b this is a news talk, said, be developing story.

1566
01:16:55,692 --> 01:17:00,253
Speaker 3: Yes, another developing story. Hodiki District has also declared a

1567
01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:03,732
Speaker 3: state of local emergency. They joined the Bay of Plenty

1568
01:17:03,853 --> 01:17:07,532
Speaker 3: teams Coremandel and Fung to day. Toby Adams says the

1569
01:17:07,612 --> 01:17:12,293
Speaker 3: declarational them to prepare and respond as the weather event developed.

1570
01:17:12,293 --> 01:17:15,452
Speaker 3: So just repeating that Hodarki District has also now declared

1571
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:18,812
Speaker 3: a local state of emergency. There'll be plenty more on

1572
01:17:18,893 --> 01:17:21,533
Speaker 3: that situation as the afternoon progresses.

1573
01:17:22,093 --> 01:17:24,772
Speaker 2: Boys speaking for a community organization that puts on a

1574
01:17:24,812 --> 01:17:27,012
Speaker 2: show every year for the public to enjoy. Our club

1575
01:17:27,053 --> 01:17:29,572
Speaker 2: members all volunteers. But we can apply for grants from

1576
01:17:29,572 --> 01:17:33,493
Speaker 2: Pokey Foundations to pay for expenses. It is a godsend

1577
01:17:33,532 --> 01:17:37,412
Speaker 2: as it pays for hall hire, container shifts, show schedule,

1578
01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:42,293
Speaker 2: catalog prize and printing, show ribbons and judges, accommodation. People

1579
01:17:42,372 --> 01:17:45,973
Speaker 2: are not frog marched into Poky's rooms. This is a

1580
01:17:46,013 --> 01:17:49,372
Speaker 2: free country. Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting thing. You've

1581
01:17:49,372 --> 01:17:51,492
Speaker 2: got harm leading to good.

1582
01:17:51,572 --> 01:17:53,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a tough part of the

1583
01:17:53,933 --> 01:17:56,492
Speaker 3: argument when it comes to the Pokey's that's for sure. Right,

1584
01:17:56,572 --> 01:17:59,133
Speaker 3: that was a great discussion. Thank you to everybody who

1585
01:17:59,173 --> 01:18:03,092
Speaker 3: called and techs on that one. Coming up after three o'clock,

1586
01:18:03,333 --> 01:18:06,213
Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about these AI plants apps.

1587
01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:11,013
Speaker 3: Artificial intelligence apps allow you to predict or tell you

1588
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:13,173
Speaker 3: what a particular plant is. The reason we've brought this

1589
01:18:13,253 --> 01:18:15,253
Speaker 3: up is I'm having problems with vines. A lot of

1590
01:18:15,253 --> 01:18:17,452
Speaker 3: people take through about solutions and we want to hear

1591
01:18:17,492 --> 01:18:20,253
Speaker 3: from you.

1592
01:18:20,253 --> 01:18:23,253
Speaker 1: Your new homes are inspful and entertaining.

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01:18:23,333 --> 01:18:23,572
Speaker 14: Talk.

1594
01:18:23,853 --> 01:18:28,092
Speaker 1: It's Maddy and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1595
01:18:28,013 --> 01:18:30,133
Speaker 2: Savvy for a good afternoon to you.

1596
01:18:30,253 --> 01:18:32,012
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show.

1597
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:33,972
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be good about this horrific

1598
01:18:33,973 --> 01:18:35,732
Speaker 2: weather that's up this way at the moment where it

1599
01:18:35,732 --> 01:18:37,572
Speaker 2: feels like you're in the middle of window. It's going

1600
01:18:37,612 --> 01:18:38,173
Speaker 2: to be good about that.

1601
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:38,572
Speaker 3: What's that?

1602
01:18:38,812 --> 01:18:42,133
Speaker 2: Well, when the good weather comes back next week, it's

1603
01:18:42,133 --> 01:18:45,093
Speaker 2: going to feel like a bonus. I feel like we're

1604
01:18:45,133 --> 01:18:47,133
Speaker 2: just coming out of winter, yeah, because it'll be so

1605
01:18:47,732 --> 01:18:51,652
Speaker 2: unbelievably hot again, and you know, five days this have

1606
01:18:51,692 --> 01:18:55,173
Speaker 2: a look, it's you know, I'm just going by Auckland here,

1607
01:18:55,692 --> 01:19:00,092
Speaker 2: typical Auckland Center, a broadcast casting. Yeah, but you know tomorrow,

1608
01:19:00,333 --> 01:19:04,532
Speaker 2: you know, twenty five degrees overcast, overcast, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

1609
01:19:04,532 --> 01:19:07,612
Speaker 2: That's good Jesus. As a while before, a.

1610
01:19:07,572 --> 01:19:10,053
Speaker 3: While before, I feel even better then. That's what I

1611
01:19:10,053 --> 01:19:11,892
Speaker 3: love about you, mate, glass are fall.

1612
01:19:11,973 --> 01:19:14,612
Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing. Yeah, but you know, like

1613
01:19:14,973 --> 01:19:17,013
Speaker 2: the weather was kind of a little bit rubbish over

1614
01:19:17,093 --> 01:19:19,892
Speaker 2: Christmas where I was, and then the sun came out

1615
01:19:20,053 --> 01:19:23,013
Speaker 2: and immediately it was too much. It was immediately too much.

1616
01:19:23,133 --> 01:19:25,852
Speaker 3: Was find that middle ground. Yeah, a little bit of overcast,

1617
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:28,293
Speaker 3: a little bit of sun, maybe a little drizzle. It's

1618
01:19:28,293 --> 01:19:29,093
Speaker 3: a perfect day for me.

1619
01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:32,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, sitting in the in the in the backyard,

1620
01:19:32,452 --> 01:19:35,333
Speaker 2: you know, with under the sun umbrella. Yeah, and just

1621
01:19:35,333 --> 01:19:37,412
Speaker 2: couldn't never get quite get the angle right, you know.

1622
01:19:37,452 --> 01:19:39,133
Speaker 2: And there's a bit of wind, and I said, screw that,

1623
01:19:39,253 --> 01:19:42,892
Speaker 2: bring back the rain. I'll go inside nicely, play with

1624
01:19:42,893 --> 01:19:45,892
Speaker 2: my lego. Yeah yeah, yeah, hey yeah, just before we

1625
01:19:45,933 --> 01:19:49,092
Speaker 2: move on to this plant problem that you've got and

1626
01:19:49,213 --> 01:19:51,013
Speaker 2: the aio plant apps, And would love to hear from

1627
01:19:51,013 --> 01:19:52,532
Speaker 2: you on OW one hundred and eighteen eighty if you've

1628
01:19:52,612 --> 01:19:54,612
Speaker 2: used them where they work? Their ads are everywhere?

1629
01:19:54,692 --> 01:19:54,932
Speaker 21: Yep.

1630
01:19:55,492 --> 01:19:57,173
Speaker 2: But is that going as that solve all the problem

1631
01:19:57,213 --> 01:19:59,452
Speaker 2: everyone's problems with plants. But I just want to go

1632
01:19:59,452 --> 01:20:01,652
Speaker 2: back to the gambling thing quickly. I just want to

1633
01:20:01,652 --> 01:20:05,372
Speaker 2: tell two quick stories about gambling. One, I would not

1634
01:20:05,452 --> 01:20:10,652
Speaker 2: exist without the races, right, okay, Because my dad's at

1635
01:20:10,652 --> 01:20:15,053
Speaker 2: the races. It's raining. Yep, he's got an umbrella. He

1636
01:20:15,093 --> 01:20:17,772
Speaker 2: sees a hot young thing. I'd wait to talk about

1637
01:20:17,772 --> 01:20:20,892
Speaker 2: my mum with no umbrella. She's standing in the rain.

1638
01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:24,852
Speaker 2: He sidles up, does my dad, and goes, you want

1639
01:20:24,893 --> 01:20:25,972
Speaker 2: to join me on an umbrella.

1640
01:20:26,253 --> 01:20:27,253
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a smooth man.

1641
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:29,812
Speaker 2: They're like nineteen years old. Next thing. You know, they're married,

1642
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:32,492
Speaker 2: four kids. Let's go. So I wouldn't have been here

1643
01:20:32,532 --> 01:20:34,372
Speaker 2: without without the races.

1644
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,852
Speaker 3: So gambling me you were conceived. Okay, that's there's a

1645
01:20:36,853 --> 01:20:38,772
Speaker 3: great story there, you go. That's a messive bonus.

1646
01:20:39,013 --> 01:20:44,852
Speaker 2: And second story, my first girlfriend, Catholic girl, member of

1647
01:20:44,893 --> 01:20:48,172
Speaker 2: ten you know, ten kids in the family, big families,

1648
01:20:48,732 --> 01:20:52,612
Speaker 2: and her dad had one one flutter and it was

1649
01:20:52,732 --> 01:20:54,692
Speaker 2: enough to buy their house. Is there right? And then

1650
01:20:54,692 --> 01:20:56,572
Speaker 2: he never gambled again? Was that on the horses? On

1651
01:20:56,612 --> 01:21:00,732
Speaker 2: the horses, never gambled again? House paid for that could

1652
01:21:00,732 --> 01:21:02,972
Speaker 2: fit ten kids and two parents.

1653
01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:03,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1654
01:21:03,532 --> 01:21:07,012
Speaker 2: So it's amazing that I haven't just become a massive

1655
01:21:07,053 --> 01:21:12,052
Speaker 2: gambler because this to such incredibly positive racing stories.

1656
01:21:12,093 --> 01:21:14,053
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be here in the Catholic family, wouldn't have

1657
01:21:14,093 --> 01:21:18,173
Speaker 3: a house. So the gambling does pay off sometimes sometimes. Yeah,

1658
01:21:18,213 --> 01:21:19,012
Speaker 3: greating stories.

1659
01:21:19,213 --> 01:21:19,372
Speaker 15: Right.

1660
01:21:19,492 --> 01:21:21,893
Speaker 2: Put that aside. There's just a load of rubbish that

1661
01:21:21,933 --> 01:21:22,772
Speaker 2: I didn't need to share.

1662
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:23,972
Speaker 3: What a load of bollocks.

1663
01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:26,532
Speaker 2: And let's move on to what you want to talk about,

1664
01:21:26,532 --> 01:21:28,492
Speaker 2: which is very very important, tyler.

1665
01:21:28,532 --> 01:21:31,452
Speaker 3: It's actually some more bollocks to to be frankier, but no,

1666
01:21:31,532 --> 01:21:33,772
Speaker 3: I generally have so it's a fine problem. I mean

1667
01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:36,492
Speaker 3: a little bit earlier on the show, but I'll go

1668
01:21:36,532 --> 01:21:38,932
Speaker 3: over it again because it's important to me right now.

1669
01:21:39,013 --> 01:21:39,213
Speaker 2: Now.

1670
01:21:39,253 --> 01:21:42,933
Speaker 3: These actually are quite beautiful looking vines. They've got beautiful

1671
01:21:43,692 --> 01:21:47,972
Speaker 3: Amazon type purple flowers. But the thing is they are

1672
01:21:48,053 --> 01:21:51,333
Speaker 3: absolutely relentless. They only popped up maybe two weeks ago.

1673
01:21:51,412 --> 01:21:53,213
Speaker 3: I didn't actually know because I was out of Auckland.

1674
01:21:53,293 --> 01:21:55,412
Speaker 3: So we came back and these things were everywhere, and

1675
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:57,492
Speaker 3: they've quickly taken over the whole garden to the point

1676
01:21:57,492 --> 01:22:01,412
Speaker 3: that they've started crawling over the entirety of the lawn.

1677
01:22:01,692 --> 01:22:03,333
Speaker 2: And if they popped up from were they are they

1678
01:22:03,372 --> 01:22:06,013
Speaker 2: growing up a fence or what we were the.

1679
01:22:05,492 --> 01:22:07,892
Speaker 3: Sedges so so big old long hedges.

1680
01:22:08,372 --> 01:22:11,852
Speaker 2: The hedges are a certain plant obviously yep, and this

1681
01:22:11,973 --> 01:22:14,052
Speaker 2: has grown in through the hedge and through the hedge,

1682
01:22:14,293 --> 01:22:16,812
Speaker 2: then come down, come down, and now it's attacking the lawn.

1683
01:22:16,692 --> 01:22:19,692
Speaker 3: Yep and bedding into the lawn. So I couldn't actually

1684
01:22:19,692 --> 01:22:21,372
Speaker 3: get the lawn mower out because it would clog up

1685
01:22:21,372 --> 01:22:23,652
Speaker 3: the lawn mower. Try the weed whacker and the line

1686
01:22:23,692 --> 01:22:26,692
Speaker 3: trimmer clog those up as well. Started to rip out

1687
01:22:26,732 --> 01:22:29,853
Speaker 3: as many as I could, but they are fricking everywhere

1688
01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:32,492
Speaker 3: and looking up the property, and it's quite a big property.

1689
01:22:32,812 --> 01:22:34,452
Speaker 3: I just actually don't know where to start and how

1690
01:22:34,492 --> 01:22:36,772
Speaker 3: to kill them, because, as people know, with a lot

1691
01:22:36,772 --> 01:22:41,012
Speaker 3: of these vines, very very difficult to kill and destroy

1692
01:22:41,093 --> 01:22:41,452
Speaker 3: for good.

1693
01:22:41,572 --> 01:22:43,892
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing you need to know when you're

1694
01:22:43,933 --> 01:22:48,053
Speaker 2: going to eliminate an enemy is to learn about the enemy. Yes,

1695
01:22:48,372 --> 01:22:50,053
Speaker 2: so you need to know what these bad boys are

1696
01:22:50,612 --> 01:22:52,612
Speaker 2: because it's not just an elbow work thing. It's too

1697
01:22:52,692 --> 01:22:55,053
Speaker 2: much for you just to get down and rip them

1698
01:22:55,053 --> 01:22:55,652
Speaker 2: out with your hands.

1699
01:22:55,692 --> 01:22:57,133
Speaker 3: I don't trust that it's going to kill them though,

1700
01:22:57,253 --> 01:22:59,492
Speaker 3: you know, because even if I do, how far down

1701
01:22:59,532 --> 01:23:01,612
Speaker 3: do they go? Is that just going to spur them

1702
01:23:01,652 --> 01:23:03,372
Speaker 3: on more? Do they love that sort of stuff? Because

1703
01:23:03,412 --> 01:23:05,412
Speaker 3: some of the vines love a bit of punishment, you know,

1704
01:23:05,452 --> 01:23:07,053
Speaker 3: you rip them in half and they just come back

1705
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:07,772
Speaker 3: with even more.

1706
01:23:08,053 --> 01:23:10,732
Speaker 2: Really, listeners, have you tried going down to the servo

1707
01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:15,652
Speaker 2: and getting yourself ten leaders of ninety five, ten leaders

1708
01:23:15,652 --> 01:23:18,892
Speaker 2: of a premium just pouring it and just flicking a match.

1709
01:23:19,293 --> 01:23:21,213
Speaker 3: There's planed c I think at this point. So I'm

1710
01:23:21,253 --> 01:23:23,492
Speaker 3: hoping for some plan a's, but generally, if you know

1711
01:23:23,532 --> 01:23:27,372
Speaker 3: what this thing is someone told me it was blue

1712
01:23:27,412 --> 01:23:30,052
Speaker 3: morning Glory, and I don't know if that's well named.

1713
01:23:30,173 --> 01:23:32,053
Speaker 3: Is that apt for these sort of vines? Maybe it is.

1714
01:23:32,492 --> 01:23:35,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds grim. Blue morning Glory sounds like

1715
01:23:35,853 --> 01:23:39,293
Speaker 2: a ox wor a cross between depression and excitement. But

1716
01:23:40,093 --> 01:23:41,973
Speaker 2: it may well be that. We'd love to hear what

1717
01:23:42,013 --> 01:23:44,293
Speaker 2: you think about it. You are realizing the thing about

1718
01:23:44,333 --> 01:23:49,773
Speaker 2: Auckland City and this wider area. Basically from topoor up

1719
01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:54,532
Speaker 2: things grow just incredibly so they what you know. When

1720
01:23:54,572 --> 01:23:57,333
Speaker 2: I moved up from Matago, up from Dunedin, can not

1721
01:23:57,452 --> 01:23:59,492
Speaker 2: believe how fast things grow up here. It's just a

1722
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:01,173
Speaker 2: combination of a lot of water and a lot of

1723
01:24:01,213 --> 01:24:04,812
Speaker 2: sun and a lot of humidity. It just stuff grows.

1724
01:24:04,853 --> 01:24:07,253
Speaker 3: My larm is getting quite the workout every second day.

1725
01:24:07,293 --> 01:24:10,013
Speaker 2: It's awesome something you want to grow. But if it's

1726
01:24:10,053 --> 01:24:12,293
Speaker 2: something you don't want to grow that grows, they can

1727
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:15,293
Speaker 2: grow faster than the stuff you want to grow. So

1728
01:24:15,893 --> 01:24:20,333
Speaker 2: the two questions are one one, yep, what is this

1729
01:24:20,853 --> 01:24:25,572
Speaker 2: horrible triffored like pest that is attacking Tyler's backyard?

1730
01:24:25,652 --> 01:24:26,052
Speaker 3: Correct?

1731
01:24:26,372 --> 01:24:30,652
Speaker 2: Second question is do these ai plant apps work? Because

1732
01:24:31,013 --> 01:24:33,253
Speaker 2: if you want to identify it, so many people are

1733
01:24:33,253 --> 01:24:37,013
Speaker 2: texting through saying just get the AI app. I think

1734
01:24:37,053 --> 01:24:42,692
Speaker 2: this one called nature popping up and find out what

1735
01:24:42,732 --> 01:24:43,933
Speaker 2: it is and then you know how to kill it.

1736
01:24:44,013 --> 01:24:44,333
Speaker 4: Right now?

1737
01:24:44,372 --> 01:24:44,852
Speaker 1: Do they work?

1738
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:46,933
Speaker 2: Because they didn't work a few years ago, because I

1739
01:24:47,293 --> 01:24:49,892
Speaker 2: downloaded and paid for this plant app because I thought,

1740
01:24:50,093 --> 01:24:51,293
Speaker 2: you know, the WORL would be a better place if

1741
01:24:51,293 --> 01:24:53,133
Speaker 2: I knew the name of all the trees. Because I

1742
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:55,093
Speaker 2: thought if I could walk around and go, that's this tree,

1743
01:24:55,173 --> 01:24:57,093
Speaker 2: like my dad goes, that's this tree, that's a tree,

1744
01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:59,213
Speaker 2: that's a just tree, and it's like you know, being

1745
01:24:59,772 --> 01:25:02,372
Speaker 2: you know, playing Pokemon go everywhere you go, you'd be

1746
01:25:02,372 --> 01:25:04,293
Speaker 2: excited to see what the tree is of skill to

1747
01:25:04,333 --> 01:25:05,692
Speaker 2: have it. But I don't recognize any tree. So I

1748
01:25:05,692 --> 01:25:07,253
Speaker 2: thought I'd get this AI thing and try and learn

1749
01:25:07,253 --> 01:25:09,933
Speaker 2: all the trees. Didn't work at all, But this was

1750
01:25:10,013 --> 01:25:13,812
Speaker 2: years ago. So do the AI ones work? And what

1751
01:25:14,053 --> 01:25:16,372
Speaker 2: is the enemy that Tyler's facing?

1752
01:25:16,412 --> 01:25:17,333
Speaker 3: And how do I kill it?

1753
01:25:17,372 --> 01:25:17,532
Speaker 10: Oh?

1754
01:25:17,572 --> 01:25:19,692
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty T and eighty is the number

1755
01:25:19,692 --> 01:25:22,412
Speaker 3: to call? Nine two nine two really king to have

1756
01:25:22,452 --> 01:25:24,652
Speaker 3: a chat with you? And as metses, have you used

1757
01:25:24,652 --> 01:25:28,692
Speaker 3: these AI plant identifiers? How successful are they?

1758
01:25:28,812 --> 01:25:31,093
Speaker 2: Can you just use GPT to take a picture of

1759
01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:32,133
Speaker 2: it and then put it in there.

1760
01:25:32,213 --> 01:25:34,532
Speaker 3: It's a good question you might too. I mean you

1761
01:25:34,572 --> 01:25:36,732
Speaker 3: were saying before that some of those apps just say

1762
01:25:36,732 --> 01:25:38,492
Speaker 3: that you've got a crack an egg on some plants

1763
01:25:38,532 --> 01:25:40,492
Speaker 3: to make them, make them thrives.

1764
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:42,053
Speaker 2: This is one of the reasons why I don't think

1765
01:25:42,053 --> 01:25:44,932
Speaker 2: it's credible, because there's this thing constantly my Instagram feed.

1766
01:25:45,293 --> 01:25:47,093
Speaker 2: And there's actually something else on my Instagram feed if

1767
01:25:47,093 --> 01:25:48,572
Speaker 2: you want to look it up met Heath in z

1768
01:25:48,692 --> 01:25:50,652
Speaker 2: there's a picture of me and my new sleep outfit

1769
01:25:50,772 --> 01:25:53,933
Speaker 2: that is my sloop set up with the mask and

1770
01:25:53,973 --> 01:25:57,173
Speaker 2: the ear plugs and the face tape and the nose thing.

1771
01:25:57,253 --> 01:26:00,372
Speaker 2: Video very sixy med Heath and zid. But no, this

1772
01:26:00,492 --> 01:26:01,652
Speaker 2: is the thing that just comes up and it's got

1773
01:26:01,692 --> 01:26:03,572
Speaker 2: of how do you deal with your plants? And it

1774
01:26:03,572 --> 01:26:05,093
Speaker 2: goes you do this, do this, and then you take

1775
01:26:05,093 --> 01:26:06,253
Speaker 2: a picture of it. It comes up and one of them

1776
01:26:06,293 --> 01:26:08,093
Speaker 2: is crack an egg on it. Yeah, that's not good

1777
01:26:08,093 --> 01:26:09,852
Speaker 2: mark not to kill it to make it grow. And

1778
01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:12,492
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't believe that needs an egg. Yeah,

1779
01:26:12,492 --> 01:26:13,452
Speaker 2: that seems I bulltit for me.

1780
01:26:13,812 --> 01:26:15,772
Speaker 3: Come on through one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1781
01:26:15,772 --> 01:26:17,852
Speaker 3: that number to call? It is fourteen past three?

1782
01:26:18,133 --> 01:26:20,372
Speaker 2: So third or fourth question is cracking an egg on

1783
01:26:20,372 --> 01:26:21,172
Speaker 2: a plant? Do anything?

1784
01:26:22,133 --> 01:26:26,012
Speaker 3: News talks'd be very good afternoon seventeen pass three.

1785
01:26:26,173 --> 01:26:28,293
Speaker 2: So you fine problem he go tinly has a picture

1786
01:26:28,293 --> 01:26:30,732
Speaker 2: of my mate. He's just in it through he's up

1787
01:26:30,772 --> 01:26:32,572
Speaker 2: in Oakura.

1788
01:26:32,692 --> 01:26:35,572
Speaker 3: Oh, he's got the sand bags out.

1789
01:26:35,612 --> 01:26:38,173
Speaker 2: Those sand bags aren't doing anything. He's about the whole

1790
01:26:38,213 --> 01:26:40,012
Speaker 2: bottom floor of his house is flooded. O made.

1791
01:26:40,013 --> 01:26:41,293
Speaker 3: He's shin deep far out.

1792
01:26:41,452 --> 01:26:44,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is full noise. I mean the bags.

1793
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:48,612
Speaker 3: They it's always a good luck when you've got the

1794
01:26:48,612 --> 01:26:50,133
Speaker 3: bags out, but they haven't stopped the thing.

1795
01:26:50,213 --> 01:26:52,213
Speaker 2: A lot of bagging before a storm is just to

1796
01:26:52,213 --> 01:26:53,372
Speaker 2: make you feel like you're doing something.

1797
01:26:53,452 --> 01:26:53,572
Speaker 17: Ah.

1798
01:26:53,692 --> 01:26:55,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just the exit the house.

1799
01:26:55,492 --> 01:26:57,492
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're helpful. But anyway, that's by the by. No

1800
01:26:57,492 --> 01:27:00,173
Speaker 2: one else could see that picture. So it's bad radio.

1801
01:27:00,452 --> 01:27:02,772
Speaker 3: It's great radio. We are talking about we are talking

1802
01:27:02,772 --> 01:27:05,652
Speaker 3: about vines. I've got a vine problem speaking a good radio. Ah,

1803
01:27:06,293 --> 01:27:08,213
Speaker 3: and I need hout. We've got a couple of questions

1804
01:27:08,213 --> 01:27:10,452
Speaker 3: on to go. Actually one so the vine, if I

1805
01:27:10,452 --> 01:27:12,293
Speaker 3: can explain it as best as I can, because how

1806
01:27:12,333 --> 01:27:15,773
Speaker 3: do you explain a vine? But it's got bright, beautiful

1807
01:27:15,853 --> 01:27:19,213
Speaker 3: looking flowers that are like something out of jamungji, and

1808
01:27:19,253 --> 01:27:21,652
Speaker 3: it's just relentless at the moment. So what is it?

1809
01:27:21,732 --> 01:27:23,452
Speaker 3: How do I get rid of it? And also do

1810
01:27:23,492 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 3: you rely upon these artificial plant apps? How successful are

1811
01:27:27,572 --> 01:27:29,772
Speaker 3: they on identifying what you've got in your garden?

1812
01:27:29,893 --> 01:27:33,333
Speaker 2: Yeah? Those plant apps, everyone's talking about them. But also

1813
01:27:33,372 --> 01:27:36,293
Speaker 2: the other thing is this is a question of deeper philosopher.

1814
01:27:37,692 --> 01:27:40,572
Speaker 2: Deeper philosophically, I guess why is it The plants that

1815
01:27:40,612 --> 01:27:43,852
Speaker 2: we don't want, like a yuckers and whatever this wounder

1816
01:27:43,933 --> 01:27:47,852
Speaker 2: is yers are just such uber incredible plants. Yeah, they're

1817
01:27:47,893 --> 01:27:50,333
Speaker 2: just so powerful them or grow anywhere. And yet the

1818
01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 2: plants that we love and want are just pathetic winds

1819
01:27:53,293 --> 01:27:55,772
Speaker 2: that you have to you have to model cuddle to

1820
01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:56,492
Speaker 2: get anything out of it.

1821
01:27:56,572 --> 01:27:57,253
Speaker 3: It's so true.

1822
01:27:57,253 --> 01:27:58,492
Speaker 2: Michael, Welcome to the show.

1823
01:28:00,412 --> 01:28:02,213
Speaker 5: Hey guys, I was just thinking you might want to

1824
01:28:02,253 --> 01:28:04,492
Speaker 5: check his over d mark dispute with root clime past

1825
01:28:04,572 --> 01:28:05,452
Speaker 5: on a Sunday morning.

1826
01:28:06,133 --> 01:28:08,013
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Rude would be all over this. When they

1827
01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:09,492
Speaker 3: love vine loves morning glory.

1828
01:28:09,532 --> 01:28:12,093
Speaker 5: I'm going to say, Yeah, I'm surprising to you. My call.

1829
01:28:12,173 --> 01:28:14,692
Speaker 2: But look, I'll tell you what Michael this is. This

1830
01:28:14,732 --> 01:28:17,652
Speaker 2: is going to sound like a bad pun, but rude

1831
01:28:17,652 --> 01:28:19,853
Speaker 2: was rude to me last time I talked to him.

1832
01:28:19,853 --> 01:28:21,892
Speaker 3: He came in hot, he did. He came in real hot.

1833
01:28:21,933 --> 01:28:24,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very rude anyway, he was fired up

1834
01:28:24,732 --> 01:28:25,492
Speaker 2: and out like that.

1835
01:28:25,652 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you said something nasty about ladybugs or something.

1836
01:28:28,772 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 3: He came in hot, Yeah, had been real hot.

1837
01:28:30,213 --> 01:28:33,772
Speaker 2: Didn't like my anti lady ladybug rhetoric. Anyway, Michael, your

1838
01:28:33,812 --> 01:28:34,652
Speaker 2: thoughts on vines.

1839
01:28:35,933 --> 01:28:37,652
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I live on a lust off property, and

1840
01:28:37,732 --> 01:28:40,652
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I've probably spoken a rude twenty times,

1841
01:28:41,333 --> 01:28:43,173
Speaker 5: just kidding his advice. But what I'd say to you

1842
01:28:43,253 --> 01:28:45,692
Speaker 5: is the first thing to work out is do you

1843
01:28:45,732 --> 01:28:48,213
Speaker 5: want to kill whatever's underneath the vine? Like each is

1844
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:49,372
Speaker 5: sitting on grass.

1845
01:28:50,253 --> 01:28:52,732
Speaker 3: No, it's sitting on hinges. See, here's the problems. So

1846
01:28:52,893 --> 01:28:55,932
Speaker 3: the hinges and the neighbors on both sides have looked

1847
01:28:55,973 --> 01:28:58,213
Speaker 3: after the huge far better than than I have. But

1848
01:28:58,293 --> 01:28:59,852
Speaker 3: I need to play my part because I want to

1849
01:28:59,893 --> 01:29:02,132
Speaker 3: be a good neighbor. But I cannot kill those hinges.

1850
01:29:02,372 --> 01:29:03,892
Speaker 3: The neighbors would absolutely kill.

1851
01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:06,452
Speaker 2: But but hang on, it doesn't the vine. Doesn't there this

1852
01:29:06,612 --> 01:29:09,492
Speaker 2: wound to have to be have it roots in the

1853
01:29:09,492 --> 01:29:10,172
Speaker 2: ground somewhere.

1854
01:29:10,293 --> 01:29:11,852
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. They can't just let it on

1855
01:29:11,893 --> 01:29:13,772
Speaker 3: a hedge, all right, so it's coming out of the

1856
01:29:13,772 --> 01:29:15,093
Speaker 3: ground somewhere that would make sense.

1857
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:19,293
Speaker 5: Okay, this is a really that was Okay, that's probably

1858
01:29:19,333 --> 01:29:22,533
Speaker 5: the most important question. I'm going to go go sidestep

1859
01:29:22,893 --> 01:29:25,572
Speaker 5: use Google lens. I find Google lens. So if you

1860
01:29:25,692 --> 01:29:27,452
Speaker 5: just go under your Google app on your phone or

1861
01:29:27,452 --> 01:29:30,173
Speaker 5: whatever you said, there's like a little camera symbol on

1862
01:29:30,253 --> 01:29:32,692
Speaker 5: the right hand side of your search bar. Yep, tap that,

1863
01:29:32,933 --> 01:29:35,333
Speaker 5: take a photo of it, and it's probably eighty percent

1864
01:29:35,372 --> 01:29:36,133
Speaker 5: accurate saves.

1865
01:29:36,133 --> 01:29:38,133
Speaker 2: You're having to buy an app, okay, right.

1866
01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:40,812
Speaker 5: That'll tell you what it's it. That will tell you

1867
01:29:40,853 --> 01:29:42,852
Speaker 5: what it is, then just say then just type in

1868
01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:46,053
Speaker 5: how to control and that'll tell you the chemicals. Now,

1869
01:29:46,053 --> 01:29:47,973
Speaker 5: the problem you've got, though, is because it's sitting on

1870
01:29:48,013 --> 01:29:50,732
Speaker 5: a hedge, you can't use any of the standing chemicals

1871
01:29:50,772 --> 01:29:53,133
Speaker 5: that would deal with it, which means that what you're

1872
01:29:53,133 --> 01:29:55,012
Speaker 5: going to have to do a bit like with what's

1873
01:29:55,013 --> 01:29:57,452
Speaker 5: called moth part. You're going to have to find where

1874
01:29:57,492 --> 01:30:00,732
Speaker 5: the roots go in. And then what I would do

1875
01:30:00,893 --> 01:30:03,013
Speaker 5: is you cut it off at the root and then

1876
01:30:03,013 --> 01:30:05,692
Speaker 5: you're five probably glafe to say or pick the ram

1877
01:30:05,772 --> 01:30:08,732
Speaker 5: gel to it right, both available at your gardens. The

1878
01:30:08,772 --> 01:30:11,173
Speaker 5: other option to take a cutting take it into your

1879
01:30:11,173 --> 01:30:14,053
Speaker 5: garden center. But most importantly tell them that it's on

1880
01:30:14,093 --> 01:30:16,333
Speaker 5: a hedge because you can't spray it. You're going to

1881
01:30:16,412 --> 01:30:18,893
Speaker 5: have to pull the vine out of a hedge. Trust me,

1882
01:30:18,933 --> 01:30:21,333
Speaker 5: I've had to do this. And then what you're going

1883
01:30:21,412 --> 01:30:25,372
Speaker 5: to you've probably depending on what the vine is, you

1884
01:30:25,452 --> 01:30:28,612
Speaker 5: probably then want to either put clive estates or another

1885
01:30:28,692 --> 01:30:32,533
Speaker 5: one called trickleser. The tricklfur is what's called the systemic.

1886
01:30:33,173 --> 01:30:36,213
Speaker 5: The systemic is where it goes into the actual soil

1887
01:30:36,372 --> 01:30:38,333
Speaker 5: and it will actually go through the roots.

1888
01:30:38,652 --> 01:30:40,452
Speaker 2: But do you But you then have to find because

1889
01:30:40,452 --> 01:30:43,133
Speaker 2: it's probably not just one plant, right, it's probably a

1890
01:30:43,133 --> 01:30:44,933
Speaker 2: whole bunch of these wounders. So you're gonna have to

1891
01:30:44,933 --> 01:30:47,093
Speaker 2: find You're gonna have to do a big investigation and

1892
01:30:47,133 --> 01:30:50,572
Speaker 2: find the root of all all of it. Yeah, to

1893
01:30:50,612 --> 01:30:52,692
Speaker 2: get it out. Have you have you found?

1894
01:30:53,013 --> 01:30:55,212
Speaker 5: I'd probably get some students in yeah.

1895
01:30:55,532 --> 01:30:57,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sounds like a lot of hard work

1896
01:30:57,093 --> 01:30:59,372
Speaker 3: for me. I'd more than be happy to just pay

1897
01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:01,492
Speaker 3: the neighborhood kids to come around and do the hard work.

1898
01:31:01,692 --> 01:31:04,772
Speaker 3: But if you found that this vine, it crawls over

1899
01:31:04,893 --> 01:31:06,772
Speaker 3: lawns and it just keeps going and going.

1900
01:31:06,812 --> 01:31:07,573
Speaker 2: It's relentless.

1901
01:31:07,692 --> 01:31:10,293
Speaker 3: I can't underst White's dug into the lawns. It's actually

1902
01:31:10,532 --> 01:31:13,133
Speaker 3: physically attached to the ground on the lawn that I

1903
01:31:13,133 --> 01:31:14,452
Speaker 3: can't use the lawnmar anymore.

1904
01:31:15,853 --> 01:31:18,412
Speaker 5: No, but here's the good news on the lawn. And

1905
01:31:18,732 --> 01:31:20,652
Speaker 5: what I would do. Definitely don't mow it or do

1906
01:31:20,812 --> 01:31:24,692
Speaker 5: anything like that because that's only going to potentially spread

1907
01:31:24,732 --> 01:31:27,213
Speaker 5: it too. So on your morn. That was why I

1908
01:31:27,253 --> 01:31:29,772
Speaker 5: was asked my first question. If it's on your morn,

1909
01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:32,133
Speaker 5: don't use life estate because life and State will kill you.

1910
01:31:32,213 --> 01:31:36,812
Speaker 5: Lawn use triclo fell mixed with picklar am, and then

1911
01:31:36,853 --> 01:31:40,612
Speaker 5: what you do to make it stick is actually put

1912
01:31:40,652 --> 01:31:43,852
Speaker 5: in a little not much, a little bit of dishwashing liquid.

1913
01:31:44,293 --> 01:31:46,652
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it? Tripe for sale?

1914
01:31:47,612 --> 01:31:49,333
Speaker 2: Triclo four okay.

1915
01:31:48,973 --> 01:31:52,812
Speaker 5: So t r I co o l p h y r.

1916
01:31:52,853 --> 01:31:55,452
Speaker 3: I think it is h y r okay, with a

1917
01:31:55,452 --> 01:31:56,133
Speaker 3: bit of dish soap.

1918
01:31:56,253 --> 01:31:59,133
Speaker 5: And there's another one called pilar am p I C

1919
01:31:59,612 --> 01:32:02,133
Speaker 5: l O R a m you can buy it as

1920
01:32:02,133 --> 01:32:03,572
Speaker 5: a mix. But if you go to any of the

1921
01:32:03,973 --> 01:32:04,932
Speaker 5: which part of the.

1922
01:32:04,893 --> 01:32:06,213
Speaker 4: Country are you an author?

1923
01:32:06,412 --> 01:32:07,292
Speaker 2: Yep ugan.

1924
01:32:08,652 --> 01:32:13,533
Speaker 3: Which part of autoin Mount Albert, very growy place, lush?

1925
01:32:13,612 --> 01:32:16,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, they'll be an Agrey shop out there. There's

1926
01:32:16,812 --> 01:32:19,732
Speaker 5: profarm who are in Papakura who sells that is a

1927
01:32:19,772 --> 01:32:23,253
Speaker 5: ready mix and yell you need five leaders of it.

1928
01:32:23,293 --> 01:32:25,092
Speaker 5: That'll be heaps okay, and a backpacks.

1929
01:32:25,093 --> 01:32:28,093
Speaker 3: Bro Michael, you're a very good man. You've given me

1930
01:32:28,173 --> 01:32:29,812
Speaker 3: a lot of good ideas here, so we'll see how

1931
01:32:29,853 --> 01:32:31,652
Speaker 3: it goes. But I'll use the Google lens to try

1932
01:32:31,692 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 3: and identify this baar boy and then go about killing it.

1933
01:32:36,492 --> 01:32:38,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, but honestly, like guys will have my number. You're

1934
01:32:38,572 --> 01:32:39,892
Speaker 5: welcome to give me a call if you can't get

1935
01:32:39,933 --> 01:32:42,052
Speaker 5: hold of rude. But look, if you tack the cutting

1936
01:32:42,053 --> 01:32:43,932
Speaker 5: into any of the garden shops, they'll give you a hand.

1937
01:32:44,013 --> 01:32:45,933
Speaker 3: You're a good man, Michael. Thank you very much for

1938
01:32:45,973 --> 01:32:48,532
Speaker 3: giving us a buds. That are some good tips. Well,

1939
01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:50,173
Speaker 3: I've just got to not kill the hedge. That's a

1940
01:32:50,173 --> 01:32:53,812
Speaker 3: big one. I can't kill the neighbor's hedge because they've

1941
01:32:53,893 --> 01:32:56,133
Speaker 3: they've done a lot of work on that. So that's

1942
01:32:56,173 --> 01:32:58,333
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass actually, because ideally I'd just

1943
01:32:58,412 --> 01:33:00,372
Speaker 3: use round up on the whole garden and be done

1944
01:33:00,372 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 3: with it. Nineteen nine two is the ticks number. It

1945
01:33:03,532 --> 01:33:05,492
Speaker 3: is twenty four past three, Beckfrey.

1946
01:33:05,532 --> 01:33:07,892
Speaker 2: Shortly, we're not going to talk to rude climb past.

1947
01:33:08,973 --> 01:33:11,932
Speaker 2: We're talking to you. Yeah, back yourself on eight hundred

1948
01:33:11,973 --> 01:33:13,772
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. We're not always running off to rude

1949
01:33:13,812 --> 01:33:15,652
Speaker 2: climb Pass, especially the way he behaved at the end

1950
01:33:15,692 --> 01:33:16,973
Speaker 2: of the year when we called him about a very

1951
01:33:17,013 --> 01:33:17,532
Speaker 2: small issue.

1952
01:33:17,572 --> 01:33:18,532
Speaker 3: You guys are better than rude.

1953
01:33:18,692 --> 01:33:19,053
Speaker 1: We know that.

1954
01:33:19,213 --> 01:33:25,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've upset him again. Yeah, it's twenty four past three.

1955
01:33:26,173 --> 01:33:29,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1956
01:33:29,893 --> 01:33:32,093
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZB for.

1957
01:33:32,053 --> 01:33:35,213
Speaker 3: A good afternoon to you're twenty six past three. Some

1958
01:33:35,253 --> 01:33:36,052
Speaker 3: good food out there.

1959
01:33:35,933 --> 01:33:39,572
Speaker 2: Mate, Yeah yeah. Braden Ramsey's fortieth anniversary in the in

1960
01:33:39,652 --> 01:33:41,092
Speaker 2: the in the company.

1961
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:42,213
Speaker 3: It looks like a good spread.

1962
01:33:42,732 --> 01:33:45,452
Speaker 2: Sausage rolls. Oh, good times, little pike wy things with

1963
01:33:46,293 --> 01:33:50,173
Speaker 2: salmon on them. Oh, I love those. Hopefully someone saves

1964
01:33:50,173 --> 01:33:51,333
Speaker 2: me a couple chips and dish.

1965
01:33:51,612 --> 01:33:53,772
Speaker 3: That is good times. Yeah, only for the best. It

1966
01:33:53,812 --> 01:33:56,412
Speaker 3: is forty years. But we are talking about my vine problem.

1967
01:33:57,053 --> 01:33:59,812
Speaker 3: How do I destroy these things without destroying too much

1968
01:33:59,893 --> 01:34:02,253
Speaker 3: of the garden? O? Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1969
01:34:02,412 --> 01:34:06,213
Speaker 2: Hey rude, hee's so rude. Focus. Hey guys, Rude recommends

1970
01:34:06,532 --> 01:34:09,093
Speaker 2: the I Naturalist app take a photo for identify of

1971
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:11,932
Speaker 2: all bugs, birds, plants and sects. Have fun. Die think

1972
01:34:11,973 --> 01:34:13,892
Speaker 2: if you text die Pauline, welcome to the show.

1973
01:34:16,293 --> 01:34:17,053
Speaker 3: Hey Pauline.

1974
01:34:18,452 --> 01:34:20,732
Speaker 2: Pauline. Hello, O.

1975
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:22,852
Speaker 3: Pauline has a solution, but she's been a bit of

1976
01:34:22,853 --> 01:34:25,972
Speaker 3: a tease. You there, Pauline. We'll come back to Pauline.

1977
01:34:26,013 --> 01:34:26,813
Speaker 3: Let's try.

1978
01:34:29,213 --> 01:34:31,053
Speaker 2: George. George, welcome to the show.

1979
01:34:31,893 --> 01:34:34,892
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, Your solution to me is going to do

1980
01:34:34,933 --> 01:34:37,612
Speaker 7: what I did when I had vines all going through

1981
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:46,852
Speaker 7: a hedge. You cut them back two thirds the vine, Okay,

1982
01:34:48,133 --> 01:34:51,173
Speaker 7: you just work it through, cut them back two thirds,

1983
01:34:51,452 --> 01:34:56,053
Speaker 7: and they gets something like te wee woody weed.

1984
01:34:55,853 --> 01:34:58,092
Speaker 3: Killer, ki wee woody weed killer.

1985
01:34:58,692 --> 01:35:02,932
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a it's a strong one for woody weeds. Okay, okay,

1986
01:35:02,973 --> 01:35:06,293
Speaker 7: which is what a vine is? And I would I

1987
01:35:06,333 --> 01:35:10,213
Speaker 7: would paint it on with a paintbrush, right, use rubber

1988
01:35:10,213 --> 01:35:12,692
Speaker 7: gloves and paint on the leaves and painted on the stems,

1989
01:35:13,333 --> 01:35:15,532
Speaker 7: and after a week the things would have curled up

1990
01:35:15,572 --> 01:35:18,412
Speaker 7: and gone. If it's in the lawns, I wouldn't pull

1991
01:35:18,492 --> 01:35:21,572
Speaker 7: those out. I would just cut them off where they

1992
01:35:21,612 --> 01:35:24,532
Speaker 7: come out of the hedge and do the same paint them.

1993
01:35:25,053 --> 01:35:28,012
Speaker 7: If you want to make not a spray, you get

1994
01:35:28,053 --> 01:35:31,412
Speaker 7: the You get the weed brush, which is like a

1995
01:35:31,492 --> 01:35:34,852
Speaker 7: bristle on the end of the rod and that and

1996
01:35:34,893 --> 01:35:36,812
Speaker 7: you brush that onto the leaves. But make sure you

1997
01:35:36,853 --> 01:35:39,572
Speaker 7: add like the guy said, but a detergent, because the

1998
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:42,293
Speaker 7: leaves will be waxy and it'll make the weed killer stick.

1999
01:35:42,772 --> 01:35:45,812
Speaker 3: Okay, they should. It sounds like good advice. So get

2000
01:35:45,812 --> 01:35:48,892
Speaker 3: a paint brush, get a bit of weed killer and paint.

2001
01:35:49,492 --> 01:35:52,812
Speaker 7: Get your first all, get your slippers, your secreatears. Cut

2002
01:35:52,853 --> 01:35:57,012
Speaker 7: them off in the hedge, down towards the bottom. Okay,

2003
01:35:57,013 --> 01:35:59,973
Speaker 7: and pull that bit out so that you're pulling it

2004
01:36:00,013 --> 01:36:02,692
Speaker 7: out of the hedge. And what's that in the hedge.

2005
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:04,772
Speaker 7: You then paint that with a paint brush, because you

2006
01:36:04,772 --> 01:36:06,732
Speaker 7: ain't going to get a spray in there without killing

2007
01:36:06,732 --> 01:36:09,612
Speaker 7: the hedge. And it'll go down into the roots of

2008
01:36:09,652 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 7: the vine and kill the vine. But it won't affect

2009
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:15,293
Speaker 7: the hedge because the actual poison, when it hits the dirt,

2010
01:36:15,412 --> 01:36:16,372
Speaker 7: it neutralizes it.

2011
01:36:17,013 --> 01:36:18,652
Speaker 2: Hey, now, George, I'm gonna I'm going to go to

2012
01:36:18,772 --> 01:36:21,173
Speaker 2: limb here and I'm going to profile you, and I'm

2013
01:36:21,213 --> 01:36:25,093
Speaker 2: going to say that you aren't someone that's using the

2014
01:36:25,173 --> 01:36:27,372
Speaker 2: AI planted identification apps.

2015
01:36:27,973 --> 01:36:30,372
Speaker 7: No, I use common sense in my eyeballs.

2016
01:36:32,053 --> 01:36:33,572
Speaker 3: Well I've gotten none of that, George, So I need

2017
01:36:33,572 --> 01:36:34,372
Speaker 3: all the help I can get.

2018
01:36:34,732 --> 01:36:38,333
Speaker 7: It's quite versatile and quite reliable actually, and doesn't argue.

2019
01:36:39,412 --> 01:36:44,093
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Tyler can't download your eyeballs to his phone. He

2020
01:36:44,133 --> 01:36:46,452
Speaker 2: can he can use his radio show to selfishly get

2021
01:36:46,492 --> 01:36:47,173
Speaker 2: information from him.

2022
01:36:47,213 --> 01:36:47,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

2023
01:36:48,133 --> 01:36:50,372
Speaker 7: Do three things you go to do three things? Cut

2024
01:36:50,412 --> 01:36:54,973
Speaker 7: it back poison the bit that's left coming out of

2025
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:58,412
Speaker 7: the ground. Yep, okay, give it a good soak. It'll

2026
01:36:58,412 --> 01:37:01,052
Speaker 7: go down the stem and work its way back down

2027
01:37:01,053 --> 01:37:04,972
Speaker 7: to the roots. Secondly, pull out from the hedge all

2028
01:37:05,013 --> 01:37:07,612
Speaker 7: the bits. It's time consuming, but even with a choice,

2029
01:37:08,372 --> 01:37:11,093
Speaker 7: all the books that are in the hedge coming out

2030
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:13,572
Speaker 7: of the hedge, and then cut those off. And then

2031
01:37:13,612 --> 01:37:15,532
Speaker 7: the third bit set are stuck on the lawn. They're

2032
01:37:15,532 --> 01:37:18,293
Speaker 7: already rooting into the lawn. That's why you can't lift

2033
01:37:18,293 --> 01:37:21,652
Speaker 7: them up. Creeping and growing in the lawn. That's putting

2034
01:37:21,692 --> 01:37:24,492
Speaker 7: roots down. Yeah, you can't just pull them up because,

2035
01:37:24,732 --> 01:37:27,492
Speaker 7: as you said, you'll leave the roots behind. That you

2036
01:37:27,612 --> 01:37:30,293
Speaker 7: then brush. If you don't want to kill the lawn,

2037
01:37:31,013 --> 01:37:32,613
Speaker 7: just brush the vine sleeves.

2038
01:37:32,973 --> 01:37:35,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Tyler just brushed the vine leaves,

2039
01:37:35,213 --> 01:37:38,133
Speaker 2: you muppet. You can't poison and brush. Here's a text

2040
01:37:38,133 --> 01:37:40,812
Speaker 2: from Vicky. Oh my god, this is so boring listening

2041
01:37:40,812 --> 01:37:42,692
Speaker 2: to Tyler's Plant Program.

2042
01:37:43,692 --> 01:37:45,812
Speaker 3: You love it, Vicky, you absolutely love it. Who doesn't

2043
01:37:45,812 --> 01:37:49,052
Speaker 3: want to talk about vines in painting vines and poisoning vines?

2044
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:49,412
Speaker 11: Yeap?

2045
01:37:49,532 --> 01:37:52,253
Speaker 2: When did this become Tyler's Plant Program? That's what I want.

2046
01:37:52,412 --> 01:37:54,372
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm taking over from Rude.

2047
01:37:55,093 --> 01:37:58,173
Speaker 2: I feel like you've hijacked this show for your domestic

2048
01:37:58,692 --> 01:38:00,333
Speaker 2: your domestic issues.

2049
01:38:00,412 --> 01:38:01,572
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I've done.

2050
01:38:01,692 --> 01:38:01,852
Speaker 5: Right.

2051
01:38:01,893 --> 01:38:04,253
Speaker 3: We're going to go to the headlines with ray Lean,

2052
01:38:04,933 --> 01:38:07,213
Speaker 3: but keen to hear from you. Nineteen nineties text nine

2053
01:38:07,333 --> 01:38:09,333
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2054
01:38:09,333 --> 01:38:11,732
Speaker 2: And if the break you're going to cut live to

2055
01:38:11,893 --> 01:38:15,412
Speaker 2: the Far North where someone said their house flooded and

2056
01:38:15,652 --> 01:38:18,293
Speaker 2: We're going to talk through that with him. He's tried

2057
01:38:18,333 --> 01:38:19,572
Speaker 2: the sand bag. It hasn't worked.

2058
01:38:19,692 --> 01:38:20,132
Speaker 3: Brilliant.

2059
01:38:22,333 --> 01:38:26,093
Speaker 14: You've talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

2060
01:38:26,173 --> 01:38:29,852
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Districts are lining up

2061
01:38:29,893 --> 01:38:32,893
Speaker 14: to declare states of emergency, with May of Plenty and

2062
01:38:33,013 --> 01:38:37,732
Speaker 14: Hodarchy joining Fargarde and Thames. Coramandel is punishing rain pummels

2063
01:38:37,732 --> 01:38:42,013
Speaker 14: Eastern and Upper North Island, with strong winds also predicted.

2064
01:38:42,492 --> 01:38:45,772
Speaker 14: A red rain warning covers Northland, Corimandel Peninsula, Bay of

2065
01:38:45,812 --> 01:38:49,253
Speaker 14: Plenty and Rutudua and Gisban District north of Taulga Bay,

2066
01:38:49,612 --> 01:38:53,412
Speaker 14: and orange warnings for many others. A man's missing after

2067
01:38:53,492 --> 01:38:57,013
Speaker 14: his car was swept away in floodwaters near Warkworth and

2068
01:38:57,093 --> 01:39:01,932
Speaker 14: totong A City and Fakatane District have opened emergency operations centers.

2069
01:39:02,893 --> 01:39:03,453
Speaker 2: Corimandal.

2070
01:39:03,532 --> 01:39:06,213
Speaker 14: State Highway twenty five A will be blocked for several

2071
01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:09,772
Speaker 14: hours at Corpu near Thames, north of the intersection with

2072
01:39:09,853 --> 01:39:13,333
Speaker 14: State Highway twenty six after a truck is crashed seriously

2073
01:39:13,412 --> 01:39:17,532
Speaker 14: injuring the driver. Meanwhile, in christ Church, two people are injured,

2074
01:39:17,532 --> 01:39:20,892
Speaker 14: one seriously after a two vehicle crash which is blocking

2075
01:39:20,933 --> 01:39:24,693
Speaker 14: the intersection of State Highways one and seventy three Yaldhurst

2076
01:39:24,853 --> 01:39:28,212
Speaker 14: Road in Russley, A New Zealand's heading for an election

2077
01:39:28,412 --> 01:39:33,573
Speaker 14: on November seven, delivering final results early December. Make America

2078
01:39:33,893 --> 01:39:39,133
Speaker 14: go Away, caps surge and popularity as Trump eyes Greenland.

2079
01:39:39,492 --> 01:39:41,572
Speaker 14: You can see the story at end, said Herold Premium

2080
01:39:41,893 --> 01:39:43,412
Speaker 14: back to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2081
01:39:43,492 --> 01:39:44,692
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan.

2082
01:39:44,732 --> 01:39:46,812
Speaker 3: We are going to get back to vine chat soon

2083
01:39:46,893 --> 01:39:48,612
Speaker 3: because so many people are into it.

2084
01:39:48,772 --> 01:39:50,812
Speaker 2: Are they because the sex sayss I agree with VICKI

2085
01:39:50,933 --> 01:39:53,452
Speaker 2: new topic. Please enough garden chats super boring on a

2086
01:39:53,532 --> 01:39:56,133
Speaker 2: day when all we need is something meaty to listen to.

2087
01:39:56,213 --> 01:39:58,612
Speaker 2: Come on, Matt and Tyler, Michelle, I'm with you, I

2088
01:39:58,772 --> 01:40:02,053
Speaker 2: with you, with you, Michelle and VICKI Now I want

2089
01:40:02,053 --> 01:40:07,572
Speaker 2: to spend my afternoon talking about Bloody Tyler's Blue Morning Glory.

2090
01:40:07,652 --> 01:40:09,933
Speaker 2: Gardening is it's going to be vine Just get one

2091
01:40:09,973 --> 01:40:12,492
Speaker 2: of those AI apps, cut a bit off and take

2092
01:40:12,532 --> 01:40:13,893
Speaker 2: it to the garden center and I'll tell you what

2093
01:40:13,973 --> 01:40:15,932
Speaker 2: to do right right now.

2094
01:40:16,213 --> 01:40:20,452
Speaker 3: Of course, it is a heavy rain warning for Northland, Corimandal, Bay,

2095
01:40:20,532 --> 01:40:22,692
Speaker 3: Plenty and Hodaki. They've all declared a state of local

2096
01:40:22,732 --> 01:40:25,892
Speaker 3: emergency as well. On the line is Mike, who is

2097
01:40:26,053 --> 01:40:27,572
Speaker 3: up in Northland experiencing this.

2098
01:40:27,692 --> 01:40:30,173
Speaker 4: Get a Mike, Hey, fellot's here.

2099
01:40:30,173 --> 01:40:33,093
Speaker 2: You go, very good, thank you. Now, I've just seen

2100
01:40:33,133 --> 01:40:35,852
Speaker 2: some pictures from your property and what I can see

2101
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:38,412
Speaker 2: is some sort of attempt to sandbag your door, but

2102
01:40:39,093 --> 01:40:41,532
Speaker 2: a bit of a failure there you're downstairs level.

2103
01:40:43,893 --> 01:40:48,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, they keept of water out for at least ten minutes, mate.

2104
01:40:48,293 --> 01:40:51,213
Speaker 2: So what's it like up there? Generally? Are we just

2105
01:40:51,213 --> 01:40:53,452
Speaker 2: getting a downpour? We got we've got a lot of wind.

2106
01:40:53,692 --> 01:40:54,532
Speaker 2: What's the weather like?

2107
01:40:55,452 --> 01:40:58,372
Speaker 4: The wind? I'll give you a weather update. Okay, the

2108
01:40:58,372 --> 01:41:01,932
Speaker 4: wind's actually died away, but it's just been constant rain

2109
01:41:02,572 --> 01:41:05,492
Speaker 4: for the last twenty four hours. But the problem is

2110
01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:09,092
Speaker 4: that the ground's just so wet that it just doesn't

2111
01:41:09,133 --> 01:41:09,652
Speaker 4: drain away.

2112
01:41:10,213 --> 01:41:14,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, full day, full disclosure. You know, I was

2113
01:41:14,093 --> 01:41:16,852
Speaker 2: staying at the place that we're talking about because we're mates,

2114
01:41:17,093 --> 01:41:19,812
Speaker 2: you and I, Mike, and you sent me a video

2115
01:41:19,853 --> 01:41:22,053
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago of your backyard which had

2116
01:41:22,093 --> 01:41:24,452
Speaker 2: been turned into a lake. Did that drain and then

2117
01:41:25,173 --> 01:41:28,652
Speaker 2: did that drain completely over the days after that flooding?

2118
01:41:29,572 --> 01:41:33,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, so most of it trained. We had about I

2119
01:41:33,133 --> 01:41:38,293
Speaker 4: just wonder that there was ten centimeters deep, but it's

2120
01:41:38,372 --> 01:41:42,573
Speaker 4: now a foot and a half deep. Your ten site's gone, mate,

2121
01:41:42,772 --> 01:41:43,732
Speaker 4: you've been flatted out.

2122
01:41:43,812 --> 01:41:44,372
Speaker 3: That is sad.

2123
01:41:45,853 --> 01:41:50,572
Speaker 4: But what's worse matters is the amount of slips that

2124
01:41:50,612 --> 01:41:53,572
Speaker 4: have happened in people's house has been damaged and stuff.

2125
01:41:53,812 --> 01:41:55,892
Speaker 4: All right, like we've just got water damage, but there's

2126
01:41:55,893 --> 01:41:57,652
Speaker 4: actually quite a lot of slips and so on.

2127
01:41:58,853 --> 01:42:01,253
Speaker 2: So so just just so people know exactly where you are.

2128
01:42:01,333 --> 01:42:07,293
Speaker 2: Northland's a very big place. So you're fung addo babe, yep, yep.

2129
01:42:07,772 --> 01:42:10,252
Speaker 4: And so about forty five minutes out of today.

2130
01:42:10,253 --> 01:42:14,333
Speaker 2: So there's been slips around your area yep, yep.

2131
01:42:14,532 --> 01:42:16,412
Speaker 4: Just in the bay unreal.

2132
01:42:16,093 --> 01:42:18,452
Speaker 2: And just just coming down on the houses. So is

2133
01:42:18,452 --> 01:42:20,372
Speaker 2: this you know, because you know you've been in the

2134
01:42:20,412 --> 01:42:22,293
Speaker 2: area for a very long time, Is this is this

2135
01:42:22,893 --> 01:42:25,053
Speaker 2: extraordinary with it because you've flooded in the past, right,

2136
01:42:25,133 --> 01:42:26,853
Speaker 2: Is this is this extraordinary?

2137
01:42:26,893 --> 01:42:32,692
Speaker 4: You have floods, floods happen, but slits there, So yeah,

2138
01:42:32,933 --> 01:42:34,253
Speaker 4: that's it's pretty crazy.

2139
01:42:34,572 --> 01:42:36,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what the roads and an outer

2140
01:42:37,173 --> 01:42:39,973
Speaker 3: like Mike, I take it there's there's a few slips

2141
01:42:40,013 --> 01:42:42,093
Speaker 3: that have impacted those areas or is it hard to know?

2142
01:42:43,933 --> 01:42:48,612
Speaker 4: I just heard that maybe the road's blocked for a while. Yeah,

2143
01:42:48,812 --> 01:42:51,492
Speaker 4: but when it rains, it always slips and lanes get

2144
01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:53,532
Speaker 4: blocked and you just have to make do.

2145
01:42:54,293 --> 01:42:58,732
Speaker 2: So you lost power on Monday, was it? And but

2146
01:42:59,053 --> 01:43:03,452
Speaker 2: your power's back and the power power power supplies robust.

2147
01:43:04,372 --> 01:43:07,012
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. It went out a couple of times today,

2148
01:43:07,053 --> 01:43:08,132
Speaker 4: but just for short times.

2149
01:43:08,652 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2150
01:43:09,253 --> 01:43:12,093
Speaker 2: And then is there any any end in sight?

2151
01:43:14,772 --> 01:43:18,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully in about six hours. Just looking at the

2152
01:43:18,893 --> 01:43:23,253
Speaker 4: weather forecast and in the rain radar, I think we're

2153
01:43:23,293 --> 01:43:25,412
Speaker 4: getting through it up here, but they're still a way

2154
01:43:25,452 --> 01:43:25,652
Speaker 4: to go.

2155
01:43:26,053 --> 01:43:28,053
Speaker 2: So just to go back to sandbags, I mean, how

2156
01:43:28,133 --> 01:43:30,293
Speaker 2: much success have you had in the past with sandbags

2157
01:43:30,293 --> 01:43:31,973
Speaker 2: and how many sandbags have you got up there? I

2158
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:33,932
Speaker 2: didn't see any when I was staying with you over

2159
01:43:33,933 --> 01:43:34,333
Speaker 2: the break.

2160
01:43:36,692 --> 01:43:39,772
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a feeble attempt trying to take the

2161
01:43:39,853 --> 01:43:42,452
Speaker 4: order out and never used sandbags before.

2162
01:43:43,532 --> 01:43:47,133
Speaker 2: To use them, it's kind of a double loss because

2163
01:43:47,173 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 2: if you've had a sad you've put some sandbags down

2164
01:43:49,333 --> 01:43:50,852
Speaker 2: and it's just got through. It's held off the water

2165
01:43:50,893 --> 01:43:53,652
Speaker 2: for five minutes, so you've you've basically gone through the

2166
01:43:53,692 --> 01:43:56,372
Speaker 2: effort of putting in point of sandbags, you know you'd

2167
01:43:56,412 --> 01:43:57,892
Speaker 2: be better just to watch to come in right.

2168
01:43:58,692 --> 01:44:01,412
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, to take them away.

2169
01:44:01,532 --> 01:44:03,213
Speaker 3: But you don't know until you try, though, don't. Yeah,

2170
01:44:03,213 --> 01:44:05,173
Speaker 3: everone walks up at sandbags and you think they're going

2171
01:44:05,213 --> 01:44:05,732
Speaker 3: to work, and.

2172
01:44:05,893 --> 01:44:07,933
Speaker 2: You've got to do something right, you're waiting for the inevitable.

2173
01:44:08,492 --> 01:44:10,572
Speaker 2: You've got to feel like you're doing something, even if it's.

2174
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:14,652
Speaker 4: In credit credit to the council they provided them, saying

2175
01:44:15,853 --> 01:44:16,372
Speaker 4: we use them.

2176
01:44:16,532 --> 01:44:19,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got on you, well, all the all the

2177
01:44:19,973 --> 01:44:24,333
Speaker 2: best up there, and yeah, you stay you stay dry.

2178
01:44:24,612 --> 01:44:26,852
Speaker 2: You're a two story house, so it's that the basement

2179
01:44:27,253 --> 01:44:28,492
Speaker 2: is full of water seeds.

2180
01:44:28,532 --> 01:44:30,293
Speaker 4: That's just it's just the basement.

2181
01:44:30,412 --> 01:44:32,852
Speaker 2: Yes, you can get upstairs and keep dry.

2182
01:44:33,732 --> 01:44:33,932
Speaker 17: Yep.

2183
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:36,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's that's good news. Cerebraltyre about those

2184
01:44:36,652 --> 01:44:38,532
Speaker 2: slips coming down to people's houses.

2185
01:44:38,692 --> 01:44:42,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of people were soft and we are.

2186
01:44:42,133 --> 01:44:45,173
Speaker 3: Is there any saving the heath camping spot or is

2187
01:44:45,173 --> 01:44:46,612
Speaker 3: that memorial camping spot?

2188
01:44:46,652 --> 01:44:46,852
Speaker 22: Now?

2189
01:44:47,732 --> 01:44:49,692
Speaker 4: Oh no, it'll dry out.

2190
01:44:49,853 --> 01:44:51,173
Speaker 3: Okay, good good news.

2191
01:44:52,053 --> 01:44:54,492
Speaker 4: You might have a few dead wounds for that's all right.

2192
01:44:54,492 --> 01:44:55,892
Speaker 2: I was hoping next year we could sort of get

2193
01:44:55,893 --> 01:44:57,892
Speaker 2: on the kayaks and have some sort of gladiator or

2194
01:44:58,053 --> 01:45:01,452
Speaker 2: competition around the backyard when they flooded the coliseum.

2195
01:45:01,532 --> 01:45:03,772
Speaker 4: But yeah, well we've got a new pool now.

2196
01:45:03,933 --> 01:45:07,333
Speaker 2: Saying all right, blessed good on your mic and gets

2197
01:45:07,372 --> 01:45:08,013
Speaker 2: the luck up there.

2198
01:45:08,452 --> 01:45:11,492
Speaker 3: Sounds incredibly full on. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

2199
01:45:11,612 --> 01:45:13,012
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

2200
01:45:13,173 --> 01:45:15,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can you can deal with well

2201
01:45:15,213 --> 01:45:17,013
Speaker 2: you can't, I forge it's too bad. But you know,

2202
01:45:17,133 --> 01:45:20,412
Speaker 2: a bit of flooding of the basement and the garages

2203
01:45:20,652 --> 01:45:24,333
Speaker 2: and whatever. But when the slip start coming, that's that's terrible.

2204
01:45:24,412 --> 01:45:25,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a bit clean up, that's

2205
01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:29,492
Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, right back, very shortly. It is nineteen

2206
01:45:29,532 --> 01:45:29,932
Speaker 3: to four.

2207
01:45:31,093 --> 01:45:34,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight

2208
01:45:34,372 --> 01:45:38,013
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

2209
01:45:38,173 --> 01:45:38,732
Speaker 1: news talks.

2210
01:45:38,732 --> 01:45:41,532
Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon to you. It is

2211
01:45:41,893 --> 01:45:47,293
Speaker 3: seventeen to four, so obviously there is some significant rain

2212
01:45:47,853 --> 01:45:50,173
Speaker 3: happening around the country right now, particularly in the North

2213
01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:53,293
Speaker 3: Northland Corimandal Bay of Plenty hodar Key. We heard from

2214
01:45:53,293 --> 01:45:55,973
Speaker 3: my cup in Northland who's experiencing some flooding in the

2215
01:45:56,013 --> 01:45:58,812
Speaker 3: basement of his place. So if you are affected by

2216
01:45:59,253 --> 01:46:00,852
Speaker 3: what's going on at the moment, really.

2217
01:46:00,652 --> 01:46:01,253
Speaker 2: Keen to hear from you.

2218
01:46:01,253 --> 01:46:02,852
Speaker 3: If you just prefer to send a text, ninety two

2219
01:46:02,933 --> 01:46:04,973
Speaker 3: ninety two is that number, or if you want to

2220
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:06,612
Speaker 3: give us a bell and let us know how it

2221
01:46:06,652 --> 01:46:08,133
Speaker 3: is where you are, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

2222
01:46:09,013 --> 01:46:10,412
Speaker 3: is that number to call.

2223
01:46:11,612 --> 01:46:13,812
Speaker 2: There'll be a certain amount of people forgot to do

2224
01:46:13,973 --> 01:46:17,852
Speaker 2: my mic on there into my second year and third year,

2225
01:46:17,973 --> 01:46:22,532
Speaker 2: third year, well thirds, it's been about fourteen months on here. Yes,

2226
01:46:22,612 --> 01:46:24,732
Speaker 2: got it into my third year and I still haven't

2227
01:46:24,732 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 2: worked out had to turn my mic on. But there

2228
01:46:26,133 --> 01:46:27,692
Speaker 2: must be a certain amount of anxiety for people that

2229
01:46:27,772 --> 01:46:31,932
Speaker 2: have holiday homes, you know, in various parts up north. Yeah,

2230
01:46:32,053 --> 01:46:34,653
Speaker 2: if there slips about dead flooding.

2231
01:46:34,372 --> 01:46:36,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to get in to assess the property and

2232
01:46:36,213 --> 01:46:38,492
Speaker 3: it's you know, the roads are out. Yeah, it's not

2233
01:46:38,572 --> 01:46:40,093
Speaker 3: much you can do until that gets cleaned up.

2234
01:46:40,093 --> 01:46:41,572
Speaker 2: Well, it was three and a half hour drive to

2235
01:46:41,652 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 2: your property through potentially closed roads to try and see

2236
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:48,133
Speaker 2: if you know the state that your batch is in. Yeah,

2237
01:46:48,213 --> 01:46:50,933
Speaker 2: a little bit of nerves out there for families.

2238
01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:54,892
Speaker 3: Absolutely. We have also been talking about a problem that

2239
01:46:54,893 --> 01:46:57,812
Speaker 3: I've got with with wnes in my back garden, and

2240
01:46:57,853 --> 01:46:59,892
Speaker 3: there's a few takes coming through saying that they're sick

2241
01:46:59,893 --> 01:47:02,293
Speaker 3: a vine chat. But with the phones of let up,

2242
01:47:02,293 --> 01:47:04,293
Speaker 3: there's a couple more people who've got some advice to

2243
01:47:04,372 --> 01:47:06,732
Speaker 3: me on how to get rid of these vines. So

2244
01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:09,972
Speaker 3: let's go to cath get aketh. Hi, how are you

2245
01:47:10,133 --> 01:47:10,532
Speaker 3: very good?

2246
01:47:11,293 --> 01:47:15,692
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've got to prove it, try to improve and

2247
01:47:17,372 --> 01:47:20,173
Speaker 21: way to get rid of it. But it's you've got

2248
01:47:20,173 --> 01:47:23,452
Speaker 21: to buy it, probably from rights and you usually have

2249
01:47:23,532 --> 01:47:24,333
Speaker 21: to sign for it.

2250
01:47:24,412 --> 01:47:29,173
Speaker 4: It's called ban vine.

2251
01:47:29,933 --> 01:47:32,412
Speaker 21: Well I did last time, and it'll cost you an

2252
01:47:32,452 --> 01:47:34,492
Speaker 21: arm and leg. It's about eighty dollars for a bottle,

2253
01:47:35,093 --> 01:47:37,893
Speaker 21: but it lasts you for longer than what the convolvulus

2254
01:47:37,973 --> 01:47:41,773
Speaker 21: will ever survive. I think it's convolvulous or morning glory.

2255
01:47:42,053 --> 01:47:45,412
Speaker 21: But you've got to let the new growth of it

2256
01:47:45,452 --> 01:47:49,532
Speaker 21: come through, so there's new fresh leaves, and you paint

2257
01:47:49,692 --> 01:47:52,293
Speaker 21: the tops of those leaves the poison and goes right

2258
01:47:52,333 --> 01:47:56,652
Speaker 21: down the root system, doesn't touch anything else. All the

2259
01:47:56,772 --> 01:48:00,572
Speaker 21: vines you've got in the hedge. Pull those vines away

2260
01:48:00,612 --> 01:48:02,852
Speaker 21: and get some sort of a vessel that you can

2261
01:48:03,253 --> 01:48:06,572
Speaker 21: pour some into a bowl and dip them in you

2262
01:48:06,692 --> 01:48:10,572
Speaker 21: must have gloves on to do it. Yeah, and dip

2263
01:48:10,612 --> 01:48:14,333
Speaker 21: them into the into the vessel and give them a

2264
01:48:14,333 --> 01:48:17,452
Speaker 21: bit of a drink of this stuff. And I've just

2265
01:48:17,492 --> 01:48:21,012
Speaker 21: got rid of a whole lot, massive amount. And it's

2266
01:48:21,133 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 21: called nothing else. Just the just the.

2267
01:48:27,133 --> 01:48:28,812
Speaker 3: Just the vine it out. That's exactly what I need.

2268
01:48:28,812 --> 01:48:30,412
Speaker 3: So what do you have to sign for it? Does

2269
01:48:30,452 --> 01:48:31,653
Speaker 3: it almost like contraband?

2270
01:48:32,452 --> 01:48:33,133
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2271
01:48:33,293 --> 01:48:37,333
Speaker 21: I didn't really ask. I've got such a fright. I

2272
01:48:37,612 --> 01:48:40,852
Speaker 21: just sighed and paid the money and took off. I thought, oh,

2273
01:48:40,973 --> 01:48:43,933
Speaker 21: that's a bit of you know, a bit heavy, but

2274
01:48:44,652 --> 01:48:47,253
Speaker 21: you're not You're not touching anything else. If you just

2275
01:48:47,412 --> 01:48:50,012
Speaker 21: let it, let the little bits grow, and you will

2276
01:48:50,053 --> 01:48:52,692
Speaker 21: have It'll take a while for you to paint your

2277
01:48:52,732 --> 01:48:55,452
Speaker 21: lawn and get every little bit of it. But I

2278
01:48:55,452 --> 01:48:58,693
Speaker 21: wouldn't cut it off because it just shoots. It multiplies

2279
01:48:59,213 --> 01:49:03,532
Speaker 21: once you start cutting it, then it shoots out, shoots

2280
01:49:03,572 --> 01:49:05,452
Speaker 21: on left, right, center and up.

2281
01:49:06,013 --> 01:49:09,652
Speaker 2: What about a scorched earth approach, cass, just going down

2282
01:49:09,692 --> 01:49:15,012
Speaker 2: to the servo, getting yourself ten leaders of ninety five

2283
01:49:16,173 --> 01:49:19,572
Speaker 2: premium yeah, premium, yeah, and just spraying around. Is it

2284
01:49:19,612 --> 01:49:20,012
Speaker 2: that bad?

2285
01:49:20,093 --> 01:49:24,173
Speaker 21: Is it. It'll kill all your wounds and kill bug

2286
01:49:24,412 --> 01:49:29,772
Speaker 21: that you keep alive. Where's this band? Vine will only hurt?

2287
01:49:30,452 --> 01:49:33,652
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, okay, thank you care. I got

2288
01:49:33,692 --> 01:49:35,452
Speaker 3: to say, you know, like, I love a bug as

2289
01:49:35,492 --> 01:49:37,732
Speaker 3: much as the next one, but if I've got to

2290
01:49:37,772 --> 01:49:38,892
Speaker 3: go with the vine, so be it.

2291
01:49:39,933 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 2: Hey, this text says, useful tip, don't forget to fill

2292
01:49:43,293 --> 01:49:45,973
Speaker 2: the sand bags with sand before laying them. Makes a

2293
01:49:45,973 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 2: big difference.

2294
01:49:46,973 --> 01:49:47,532
Speaker 3: Funny that.

2295
01:49:47,652 --> 01:49:50,013
Speaker 2: Well, I'll text that through to Mike, whose house is

2296
01:49:50,053 --> 01:49:52,892
Speaker 2: currently flooding now. But I'm pretty sure he did fill

2297
01:49:52,933 --> 01:49:53,452
Speaker 2: the sandbags.

2298
01:49:53,532 --> 01:49:55,013
Speaker 3: I think you would have known that. It's in the name,

2299
01:49:55,093 --> 01:49:55,452
Speaker 3: isn't it?

2300
01:49:56,093 --> 01:49:59,012
Speaker 2: Someone you ever used sandbags? I mean, sure it's happened.

2301
01:49:59,333 --> 01:50:02,972
Speaker 2: But whenever you see these pictures of people's sandbagging, there's

2302
01:50:03,013 --> 01:50:05,173
Speaker 2: always followed by a picture of all the water either

2303
01:50:05,213 --> 01:50:06,012
Speaker 2: side of the sand bags.

2304
01:50:06,093 --> 01:50:06,213
Speaker 17: Right.

2305
01:50:06,333 --> 01:50:09,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, Has anyone ever successfully sand agged and protected their house?

2306
01:50:10,013 --> 01:50:12,772
Speaker 3: It's a great question. I had one hundred eighty ten eighty.

2307
01:50:12,853 --> 01:50:14,293
Speaker 3: I've never seen it. I mean, look, there was some

2308
01:50:14,333 --> 01:50:16,892
Speaker 3: serious flooding down and chrost eats after the earthquakes, because

2309
01:50:17,452 --> 01:50:19,213
Speaker 3: you know, there were some changes to the infrastructure, but

2310
01:50:19,213 --> 01:50:21,972
Speaker 3: you're quite right. Every time I saw the sand bags out, Yeah,

2311
01:50:22,093 --> 01:50:24,293
Speaker 3: it always slipped through and you just need a little

2312
01:50:24,333 --> 01:50:26,532
Speaker 3: bit of a gap there, and once it's through, water

2313
01:50:26,572 --> 01:50:27,133
Speaker 3: finds a way.

2314
01:50:27,173 --> 01:50:29,732
Speaker 2: You don't even see it coming through. I sandbagged at

2315
01:50:29,732 --> 01:50:33,692
Speaker 2: the top of the driveway once and it looked like

2316
01:50:33,732 --> 01:50:36,333
Speaker 2: it was working. But then you know, woke up in

2317
01:50:36,372 --> 01:50:37,732
Speaker 2: the morning everything was flooded. Anyway.

2318
01:50:37,812 --> 01:50:40,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, I one hundred eighty ten to eighty. If you've

2319
01:50:40,612 --> 01:50:47,132
Speaker 3: ever successfully used sandbags, Morris, how are you?

2320
01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:52,213
Speaker 23: You two on gardenings like the comedy club. But the

2321
01:50:52,293 --> 01:50:54,932
Speaker 23: last lady's right, and the guy before there are one hundred?

2322
01:50:54,973 --> 01:50:55,293
Speaker 8: Is that right?

2323
01:50:55,333 --> 01:50:55,732
Speaker 19: What you do?

2324
01:50:55,812 --> 01:50:57,652
Speaker 23: The biggest thing is right life to say, it won't

2325
01:50:57,652 --> 01:50:59,892
Speaker 23: work because it's a wood. So you've got to get

2326
01:51:00,293 --> 01:51:02,173
Speaker 23: a thing that kills like BlackBerry and black current and

2327
01:51:02,173 --> 01:51:03,452
Speaker 23: all that sort of stuff. Then's the only thing. You

2328
01:51:03,492 --> 01:51:05,852
Speaker 23: got to get the right spray yep. And you said

2329
01:51:05,853 --> 01:51:07,613
Speaker 23: it's a purple flower, is it like a bellflower?

2330
01:51:07,812 --> 01:51:12,172
Speaker 3: Yep? Going on, that's more than glory this morning glory, right.

2331
01:51:11,973 --> 01:51:13,932
Speaker 23: So you've got to get a spray that will kill

2332
01:51:13,973 --> 01:51:15,892
Speaker 23: those black berries and black currots and all that sort

2333
01:51:15,893 --> 01:51:18,253
Speaker 23: of stuff, right, And they won't kill it. So that's

2334
01:51:18,293 --> 01:51:20,133
Speaker 23: the biggest thing is that now you know what you've got,

2335
01:51:20,572 --> 01:51:23,053
Speaker 23: you get their lady said the vine that vye thing

2336
01:51:23,093 --> 01:51:25,252
Speaker 23: and why you're signing at rights and that's not available

2337
01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:28,373
Speaker 23: for everyone. You've meant to do with a chemical certificate

2338
01:51:28,452 --> 01:51:30,892
Speaker 23: or whatever you know. But I think they sell retail

2339
01:51:30,933 --> 01:51:33,492
Speaker 23: packs for people and stuff like that and it'll keell

2340
01:51:33,532 --> 01:51:36,652
Speaker 23: it straight away. But the last two callers, clearly they're

2341
01:51:36,692 --> 01:51:39,133
Speaker 23: more mature. The lot gen zs are new millennials because

2342
01:51:39,133 --> 01:51:41,933
Speaker 23: they had common sense. And if you go down the

2343
01:51:41,973 --> 01:51:45,572
Speaker 23: common sense approach, lads, you will thrive. You don't need Google,

2344
01:51:45,772 --> 01:51:47,972
Speaker 23: you don't need any of that because I bit those

2345
01:51:48,013 --> 01:51:51,173
Speaker 23: two people can't even use Google. So this is what

2346
01:51:51,253 --> 01:51:54,932
Speaker 23: it is. And the thing is is that it's really

2347
01:51:54,973 --> 01:51:55,812
Speaker 23: important you get.

2348
01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:59,092
Speaker 5: The right the right spray because if you don't, you'll.

2349
01:51:58,893 --> 01:52:00,132
Speaker 23: Do it and I won't die.

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Speaker 11: And you know the best thing of it and more

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Speaker 11: and glory when.

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Speaker 8: You're moded on the lawn.

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Speaker 23: You made it ten times worse than what it was

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Speaker 23: going to be.

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Speaker 2: Well that's interesting. Yeah, this Texas said, boring, boring, No,

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Speaker 2: who doesn't like vine chat?

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Speaker 3: One hour of vine chat that we flog it off

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Speaker 3: to our listeners to solved my problem.

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Speaker 2: This text is always need a double layer of sand

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Speaker 2: bags laid like bricks for the sand bags to work.

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Speaker 2: So what does that means? Just off off each other?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so two layers, two layers and alternate to each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I suppose it would make sense. But I mean, who's

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Speaker 3: got sand bags ready to go in these sort of emergencies?

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Speaker 3: Obviously the council drops them off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Up in Northland, the council is going around dropping off

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Speaker 2: bags to people, which is good to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they'd have to ration them, wouldn't they. So

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Speaker 3: they might be only able to drop off five at

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Speaker 3: a time. Can you hear from you if you are

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Speaker 3: facing the heavy rain at the moment? I wait, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty, But we'll get to a

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Speaker 3: few more teachs shortly. It is nine to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be news talks there. B It is seven to four.

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Speaker 3: So as we know, quite a significant whether event happening

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Speaker 3: around the North Island at the moment. So the latest

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Speaker 3: that you need to know and there will be more

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Speaker 3: with ryan Bridge shortly, but Northland coramand all the Bay

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Speaker 3: of Plenty and Hodaki have all declared a state of

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Speaker 3: local emergency. Holiday Makers and residents in low lying areas

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Speaker 3: are being urged to evacuate immediately due to a threat

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Speaker 3: to life. Forecasters are warning that the worst of the

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Speaker 3: weather is due to come, with a month's worth of

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Speaker 3: rain expected in two to three days for parts of

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Speaker 3: the Auckland region. As it stands at the moment, evacuations

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Speaker 3: are underway for twenty two homes in Okurda near Fangaday

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Speaker 3: and Far North. Power outage has had one hundred homes

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Speaker 3: so for the latest we will continue to bring you

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Speaker 3: the information you need to know right here on news

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Speaker 3: Talks EDB. But stay safe.

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Speaker 2: The six says, sandbags working for me so far. You're right,

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Speaker 2: Double them up and lay them so they cover the

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Speaker 2: back rows gaps. That makes sense, Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Nice Whether it works or not, it felt goodly them.

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Speaker 2: You have to do something, yeah, exactly nicely said I

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Speaker 2: have heard from the dairy down the road that our

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Speaker 2: batch has been hit by a slip. Sitting down here

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Speaker 2: and no way we can get to it. I guess

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Speaker 2: we'll check out the carnage when we can. Pretty nervous,

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Speaker 2: and this texture is taking a positive view of what's

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Speaker 2: happening where they are. Good news over pool downstairs at

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Speaker 2: my house. Now, Yeah, imagine that's a pretty messy, dirty

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Speaker 2: brown water pool that is optimistic essentially stinky. But stay

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Speaker 2: safe out there everyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a big clean up.

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Speaker 2: All the best. All right. That brings us to the

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Speaker 2: end of the The Matt and Tyler Show for another day.

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Speaker 2: A podcast will be out very soon wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: But you're playing poke face by Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why would I be playing poke face by Lady Gaga?

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Speaker 3: Because we had quite a good chet, actually really good

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Speaker 3: chat about problem gamblers. I'm assuming where the ones who

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Speaker 3: managed to break the addiction. That's sadly twenty five percent

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Speaker 3: go back into it. But jeez, it was a good chet.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Insane stats. By two thousand and thirty, the gambling earnings

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Speaker 2: will hit over thirty billion globally.

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Speaker 3: Unreal, I'm sorry from slot machines. Yeah, that is a

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Speaker 3: crazy amount of money machines.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge, the Fantastic Ryan Bridge is up next so

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Speaker 2: until tomorrow afternoon, give him a taste of Kiwi from

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Love you.

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Speaker 20: No we can read them, No, no, we can.

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Speaker 20: B Bucker pay Nobody.

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