1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Across the towns of Murray Olds. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: How are you m good morning, Michael, pretty good? Thank you? 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Good good? Richard Miles's former chief of staff? Is it Tenorski? 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Tanowski? 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: I think Tanowski? Okay, So Joe's upset. She's not happy. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: She didn't think she'd done anything wrong. She's been bullied 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: out of a job. She goes public. How bad is 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: this gibbon. There's quite a bit going wrong for the 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: government at the moment. 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't help, does it. And you know the 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: liberal parties, the problem is the party with the women 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: problem quote unquote. But here's Labor. You know, a fairly 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: popular deputy prime minister acting prime minister at the moment. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: The last thing Labour needs is to have a woman 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: of very long standing. She's known Richard Miles for well 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: over a decade and she was his chief of staff. 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: And that's a pretty important job, as you well know, 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: in a political office of that importance. Anyway, she was 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: getting undermined, whitehnted from below and this is what her 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: claim is getting bullied by junior staff in the offer. 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: She raised the concerns with the boss, Richard Miles and 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: the way home earlier this year, from Ukraine and said, listen, 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: these rat bags in the office are really getting up 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: my nose. He said, leave it with me, I'll fix it. 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: A few days later, a few weeks later, M sorry 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: you Beddle, look for a new job. So she's been 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: sitting there, apparently locked out of her office. Can't work. 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: It didn't pardon me. So she goes, she goes public 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: and she says, listen, I've been treated very, very unfairly. 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: This sort of conduct should not be permitted in Parliament 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: or anywhere else for that matter. So where this lands, 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but Labour needs this like a hole 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: in the head. 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I reckon for Payman's new party, which is called Australia Voice. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I noticed in her I think it might have even 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: been her initial interview that she couldn't really work out 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: whether the party would have rules around crossing the floor, 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: which is ironic given she crossed the floor to form 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: a new party. Is this going anywhere? 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Well? Look, I was thinking about this in the last 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: forty eight hours, to be honest, knowing she was going 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: to put her head up yesterday. Lot of two people 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: I thought of Pauline Hanson all those years ago. One 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: nation is she going to get near well, well, look 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: at her. She's still hanging around. A lot of people 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: really like her. A lot of people say she's a 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: people on the butm of the political establishment over here. 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Either way, she's a very divisive figure. But she's still there. 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: And the other one was that South Australian senator Cory Bernardi. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: He said I'm leaving the Liberal Party. Follow me, and 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: nobody did. And so he's down there in South Australia 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: with his Australian Conservative Party with one member and that's him. 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: So it depends, I mean, payment has come out. She's 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: only a very young woman, a refugee who came here, 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: educated in Australia, very bright, young woman from all accounts, 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: worked as a top trade union official in Western Australia 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: and got that third spot on the Senate ticket. She's 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: only in there for a minute and she quits and 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: now she's an independent. She's got her new party up 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: and running. But honest to goodness, she sounded yesterday like 61 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: young woman with a school assignment and she's trying to 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: fill in all the gaps. It really is a bit naive, 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: I think for her to expect anyone to take us seriously. 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: But she doesn't even have a policy on Gaza, which 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: is why she walked in the first place. 66 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I was watching a little bit of the Parliament this 67 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: week because it's back, of course, and I look at 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the Tourette's thing was a direct working of 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Albanezi being under pressure, wasn't he the guy is he 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: knows he's in trouble. 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely he does. And all the polls tell 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: you he's in trouble. He's in trouble with the electorate 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: because people don't care about the Middle East. But Mike, 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: they care about the cost of living. They care about 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: putting food on the table for the kids, making sure 76 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: the school uniforms are clean, they've got school shoes. That's 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: what people are worried about, the cost of paying the bills, electricity, gas, food, 78 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: putting gas in the petrol in the car, all the 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: rest is kind of yeah, look, it's important, but we 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: don't care. We want you to acknowledge our pain with 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: interest rates the way they are, and Buddy will do 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: something about it. Well, here's the thing he can't. Every 83 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: time he tries to do something, he stands up in Parliament. 84 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: There's Peter Dutton, who just he just cuts him down 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: exactly the whole trenched thing. It was a dreadful look. 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's school yard stuff. But that's exactly the 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: pressure he's under. Peter Dutton is going straight back to 88 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: the Tony Abbott playbook of ten years ago. Just say 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: no to everything and just keep belting them and I'll 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: tell you what you said a few weeks ago. Dutton 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: could win the next election. Well he could. Right now 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: it looks more like a hung parliament with Labor governing 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: and minority. The big thing that Albanezey has going from 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Dutton is so dreadfully unpopular with just about everybody except 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: missus Dutton, and that's the only thing he's got going 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: from because Labor is on the nose. 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Big time headline this week best article I read nearly 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: one term in just what is the point of the 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: albaneze government? I thought, well, there you go. 100 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sums it up, mate, that sums it up. 101 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Where does I mean? It's all very well for the 102 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: rebels to see Australian rugby, but what the outworking is what. 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Well the rebels have effectively been shot dead and all 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: the best players, you know, the Tom and thor for example, 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: they've all gone walk about, so they're all gone. The 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: Rebels are no more, but the directors of the Rebels are. 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: They lodged a lawsuit this week seeking millions and millions 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: of dollars alleging, you know, unfair sacking by Rugby Australia. 109 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: Rugby Australia's hit back like yesterday. So a second, we're 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: going to lodge a counterclaim against Melbourne Rebels directors alleging 111 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: misleading and active conduct. This is getting increasingly nasty the 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: Rebels directors. I think it's in the order of about 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: thirty million dollars they are after. Basically they're saying, listen, 114 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: Rugby Australia let us down. We had a going concern 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: down here. Rugby Australia just cut us adrift. But Rugby 116 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: Australia's had hand on a second, you guys were trading 117 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: while insolvent. We propped you up to the tune of 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: millions and millions of bucks for salaries for everybody involved. 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: You just want very good at running a business, well, 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: you know, as well as I do down in Melbourne's 121 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: sport talks, and even if it's rugby Union, which is 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: very much on the nose down in Victoria. It's an 123 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: AFL down and if the Melbourne Storm does well though 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: a little bit, rugby league rugby union is very much 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: a fourth tier sport. But having said that, sports directors 126 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: down there, rugby union directors down there. I've got a 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: reputation in town and if someone's calling him dreadful business people, 128 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: well they're going to do something about it. So where 129 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: there's settled, I have no idea because you know claim 130 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: here and a counterclaim from Rugby Australia. It's a mess 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: that I don't need it. 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: You're a good lake. We'll catch up next week mate, 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: Thank you. Michael Murray holds across the Tasman for us 134 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: this morning. Year that article I read by a guy 135 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: called Sean Karney. He says, a terrifying thought is that 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: what's happening in our politics. This is Australia is the best, 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: It's the best the country can do. Increasingly, this is 138 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: savagely contestant political environment, involving politician staff as a handful 139 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: of gasping, grasping lobbyists and what's left of a watchful media. 140 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: And then there's the rest of Australia that variously aws 141 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: it or is bewildered by it a lot of the time, 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: sums it up to do well. Indeed. 143 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: news talks it Be from six am weekdays, or follow 145 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.