1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Auckland Harbor's Bridge. Gee. Speaking of things that just carry on, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: We've got another segment in this particular debate about Auckland's 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Harbor Bridge, another proposal, this time to rival the Mayor's 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: idea of building over Meola Reef. This time it's a 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: new six lane bridge right next to the existing Harbor Bridge, 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: which would allow one bridge to take the traffic going 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: north and then the other bridge to take the traffic 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: going south. Now, the man behind this is the architect 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: who actually thought up Skypath, Garth Faulkner. Hey, Garth, Hello, 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm very well. Thank you. I've been told you've actually 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: met with the mayor Wayne Brown on this. What's he said, it's. 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: It's had a good discussion and he's been interested in 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: looking at multiple crossing options and looking at opportunity for 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: urban regeneration and looking at other options rather than an 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: expensive tunnel. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: What she said about your version of what you want 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: to do, because he's already got one. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: He's floated this idea of the Meolder Reef, and he 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: seems quite keen on that. We have generated a third 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: bridge octum what we call them the thawsway. After the discussion, 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: so he hasn't really seen that, but he's seen our 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: way to Matar Bridge, which is this graceful curving structure 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: to the west of the Auckland Harbor Bridge. 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: And did you convince him that it was better than 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: his Meola Reef version. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: I think he feels that it would be better for 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: a bridge to be away from the central city choke 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: point based on the number of vehicles going through that 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: passage that aren't actually aiming to stop on the central city. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: He has, he has, but I think overall the priority 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: has to has to land for ly Worth, providing some 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: support for the Auckland Harbor Bridge, which is pretty much 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: maxed out at the moment in terms of its numbers 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: and its load, and also it's susceptible to extreme weather events. 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: So I think we've really got to focus on that 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: first and then longer term look at another bridge further 37 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: down the harbor. And one of the things we talked 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: about with Meyor Brown was San Francisco, which is a 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: similar city divided by a large water body. It's got 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: seven bridges and one of them make the San Mateo 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: Haywood Bridges, eleven columbuses long, and they connect communities and 42 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: they've connected motorway systems, and they've added up to new 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: areas of development for San Francisco, which basically now covers 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: the entire base, So very similar prece of it. 45 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, because the problem I have with you one, I mean, 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: I love the idea, but the problem is exactly what 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Wayne Brown has identified, which is you are stillunneling all 48 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: the cars up State Highway one. Like if you're coming 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: from the south, all of them still have to go 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: up to exactly the same point, have to go on 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: one bridge or the other, and then they have to 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: join up again and go down the existing motorway again. 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like fixing one problem being the 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: harbor crossing, but it's not really fixing the congestion on 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: either side, is it. 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: Well, what it does under this proposal there will be 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: dedicated public transport lanes which at the moment they are 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: intended for buses, which are more affection to moving people, 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: and that's the area of growth that we can really 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: lean to, that to that choke point at the moment. 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: But also we can open up the two eastern lanes, 62 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: which about eight meters wide for the deestrian walking and cycling, 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: which could take you to start off with about five percent 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: of all movements across the bridge at the moment, so 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: it would it would ease that congestion straight away, but 66 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: also add resilience. 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Garth, thank you. I really appreciate you talking us 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: through this. Garth Faulkner, who's the director of Reset Urban 69 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Design and the guy who actually thought up the skypath. 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: news talks. 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.