1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: So let's get into a little bit of health talk 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: and specifically longevity. The king of the hill is doctor 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Eric Taple, the cardiologist who's been researching longevity for decades. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Of these in the top ten mostated authors in the 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: history of medical research, is also considered one of the 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: top five voices of longevity. His book is Superaging. That's 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: must read in doctor Eric Taples, whether it's out of 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Lahoya in the States, good morning, hey, good morning mate. 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: He is exciting, if not historic times in terms of longevity. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I do think so it's not exactly longevity or life span. 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I do think it's extending health span, that is the 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: number of years of life with intact health. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Do you think most people get that because we are 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: fascinated with numbers. If you can live to one hundred 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: and forty three, it's fantastic. 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Well, I hope that you get it, because if you 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: live to ninety and you've perfectly healthy through our that 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: ought to be the goal, rather than trying to live 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: to one hundred and ten and having many years of 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: demand show or profound frailty or poor quality of life. 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Talk us through the bicics solvent how much of its 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: genetics if it's genetics. How much can you do about that? 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: How young do you need to start? Can you retrofit 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: to yourself all of those matters. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out the genetics for health span is 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: in nearly what we expected. We did a big study 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 2: fourteen hundred people, you know, almost age ninety whole genome sequencing. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: We didn't find much. And also the patients in the 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: book I presented in Superagers, they had their relative died 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: ninety eight year old woman, her parents, her brothers all 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: died in their fifties and sixties. So it isn't genetics. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: That may be a small part. There's a small part 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: of luck perhaps, but the big reason that people have 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: health span that's so extraordinary is because the immune system 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: is so intact throughout their lives. 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of ways you can do that. 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: The factors that you know, Mike and I'm sure all 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: your listeners, like diet that avoids things that are pro inflammatory, 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: that exercise, both aerobic and resistance training, and good sleep health. 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: These things are fundamental to preventing an untoward inflammation in 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: the body and keeping your immune system intact. But just 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: more than that, we're learning lots of ways that we 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: can get the pace of aging in a person through 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: these clocks. So there's a science of aging that's giving 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: us these new metrics to assess whether a person's immune 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: system and the vital organs are pacing at a fast 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: or slow rate relative to their biological age. 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: I supposely the problem we find that the more we 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: know is whether this is averages. So a person like you, 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: guys on average, the city, the society, whatever versus me, 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, can live to ninety eight and will? 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: So is it individual or is it averages? 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, really, what's important, at least to me is the 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: individual story. The averages are meaningless when it comes down 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: to the single person. So that's why these metrics that 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: have come from the science of aging are so helpful, 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: because you can look at organ clocks, whole body clocks, 59 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: and you can see whether or not there's something that's 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: off track and get on top of it. Because the 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: big three age related diseases that interfere with our health 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: span are heart disease, nerve degeneral disease, and cancer. And 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: now they take twenty years to actually while they're incubating 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: in our bodies. If we can't get ahead of those, 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: we got trouble. We have to be smarter than that. 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: The medical intervention in being able to measure these things 67 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: in life. Are we advancing in that area as well? 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Yes, as you know, these GLP one drugs like ozembic 69 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: have profound anti inflammatory effects in the body and the brain. 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: But that's just the beginning of this gut hormone revolution 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: in medicine. There's like fifteen of these hormones in combinations 72 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: and various doses in pill form that are going to 73 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: be very important because, as I mentioned, the immune system 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: keeping that intact and getting rid of bad inflammation. We've 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: never had good drugs to do that, and we're starting 76 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: to see that now. 77 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: How experimental is this GP stuff that we're taking at 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: the moment? I mean the more I read about it, 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean I see what happens to people, but equally 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I see potentially what will be seen to be side 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: effixed down the track. Are we still in an experimental 82 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: phase of this will not. 83 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: No no longer? You know, we're twenty years into this 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: GLP one story. Every side effect that has been tracked 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: down turns out it's either not worrisome or it can 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: be For example, the muscle ass issue can be countered 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: by resistance training. So there's no side effect that's going 88 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: to hold this back. Surprisingly, I mean, really, I'm never 89 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: one to be supportive of the pharma industry, but this 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: time it looks like they've really hit it big. And 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: it's just the beginning of it, because we haven't gotten 92 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: easy into pills yet, going to make it much less expensive, 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: and there's much more potent ones coming, and of course 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: there's other drugs that have this strong anti inflammatory, pro 95 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: immune system effect that we're going to see. It's going 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: to make a uge difference in preventing these diseases. 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Will we simply be in an age whereby you can 98 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. The doctor eventually goes 99 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you'll need to stop and take some of this. I'll 100 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: take the pill or pills, and my problem is over. 101 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's never going to be simple as a pill. 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: There's still the lifestyle factors that we that we reviewed, 103 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: and even more, and of course there's some of the 104 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: things that we have that are real problems, like air 105 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: and the plastics, micro nanoplastics and forever chemicals. We're not 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: doing enough to get those down to control those because 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: those are also affecting. So you know, it's a combination 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: of all these things. We have to get on better 109 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: lifestyle behavioral factors. We have to do something about our 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: environmental toxins that's not helping this at all. And of 111 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: course there's going to be better treatments and medications to 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: achieve prevention. In the years ahead. We're going to be 113 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: able to prevent the big three diseases like never before, 114 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: and in fact, we've never gone a good job of 115 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: any any of them. 116 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Well, so that's what's so exciting. I was going to say, 117 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: as part of the problem, though, the more we can treat, 118 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: the heart of the messaging will be around lifestyle, because 119 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: surely if we've not looked after ourselves well to this point, 120 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: once you've suddenly got what we would perceive to be 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: a miracle, Cua, you're not talking to me about exercise 122 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: and slip because I don't need it because I got 123 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: my magic pill. 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is a really good point making. But 125 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: what's different about the current situation is we used to 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: just tell people this is what you should do, but 127 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 2: there wasn't any specificity at the individual level. A point 128 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: you made earlier. We're going to be able to say 129 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: to a person, you know, you are at high risk 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: for Alzheimer's disease in the next fourteen years, and these 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: are the things in your lifestyle, and we're going to 132 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: be able to measure whether or not we change your 133 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: brain clock and all these other markers. And they're modifiable, 134 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: these markers like so called PETAW two seventeen, and that's 135 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: going to be motivating for people as opposed to the 136 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: general recommendations for the entire population, so specificity at the 137 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: individual level and temporal features, saying when these are things 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: we've never been able to do before. That's what AI 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: can help provide. 140 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Is there still value do you reckon in regulating sleep, 141 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: eating well, exercising and doing that for genuine enjoyment and 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: longevity and actually trying to avoid pills and potions and medications. 143 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really important, Mike, because as I reviewed 144 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: in the book, if you start at age fifty, no 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: less earlier, but let's say fifty, multiple studies show that 146 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: if you are doing the things you just mentioned, you 147 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: get seven to ten years of health span intact healthy agent. 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: So it's as you're saying, we don't get people to 149 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: do these things, but that in itself to provide a 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: lot of incentive. But we're going to get even more 151 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: incentive in the future by having individualized forecasting. 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: What's your view on the blue zones? Are they real? 153 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Is there something in those nothing at all? 154 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: Their bogus? Unfortunately, it was a kind of you know, 155 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: affirmation confirmation bias. We all wanted there to be blue zones, 156 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: but no, these people, it was mythical. They never had 157 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: documentation of their ages. And sure there are people that 158 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: have extraordinary health span, but that's not been proven by 159 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: the blue zones. 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, what's your expectation, all things being equal, and when 161 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: we talk about longevity, you should be what eighty seven 162 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: and playing good tennis ninety six and playing excellent volleyball 163 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: or what. 164 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: Well, I would say a superager or what we call 165 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: the welderly, has gone past eighty five plus and have 166 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: never had cancer, heart disease, or neurodegenerative disease. It's totally 167 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: intact cognitivevilion physically. Now, if they're playing tennis or whatever, 168 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: that's fine, they don't have to. But you know the 169 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: point is they've reached that age and they've not They've 170 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: never had to be hit with the Big Three. And 171 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: that's a really great goal that we're gonna achieve. And 172 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna flip the elderly, which is what we have 173 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: right now. People it's sixty five and older. They're mostly 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: the elderly with a chronic disease. We're going to flip 175 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: that to the welderly super agers in the future. 176 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Is this western or global? 177 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: Global? 178 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Is Western a problem as being Western a problem? 179 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean we unfortunately, like for in the US, 180 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: we have the worst consumption of ultra processed food, and 181 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: we have the worst plastics and microplastics story around there. 182 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: So there are some problems Western and particularly US centric, 183 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: that are really hurting us. Yeah. 184 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? I've always found it fascinating that the 185 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: more we know. I look at a place like America 186 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: and New Zealands know better in terms of obesity and 187 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: food and stuff, so we know the answer, and yet 188 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: we don't want to. I mean, how do you explain 189 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: obesity and how do you explain how people eat what 190 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: they eat and all of that. 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately it's not like a simple explanation, right, I Mean, 192 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: it's a lot tied into ultra processed foods and poor 193 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: diet and as there's factors that we still don't even 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: understand about how this has been this steady epidemic of diabesity. 195 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: But you know, we have a counter to that. Now. 196 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: We have a class of drugs that help and they're 197 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: going to be as I mentioned, much cheaper and in 198 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: pill form. The problem we have is we don't want 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: them to be forever drugs. We'd hate to have people 200 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: taking these for their whole life so they could not 201 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: be obese or marketly overweight. We have to come up 202 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: with strategies that keep people at a much better health 203 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: status and body weight throughout their lives without having to 204 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: rely on pills. 205 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Idealing two questions from my wife. One, you don't eat 206 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: red meat heaven for a long period of time. Where 207 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: do you get the stuff that you would get from 208 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: red meat from? 209 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I love, of course salmon and seafood. I 210 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: love you know, lots of things that are a good 211 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: sources a protein that don't require red meat. You know, 212 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: I follow largely a plant based diet, Mediterranean type diet, 213 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think red meat has been incriminated for 214 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: a long time. You know. I tell my patients, you know, 215 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: it's fine to have red meat, but just don't do 216 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: it on a frequent basis. But there's some people who 217 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: are very committed carnivores and I can't affect they're interest. 218 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: Second question from my wife, I have an espresso at 219 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: two thirty in the morning every morning. I think it's 220 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a gut cleanser. Am I right? Or am I killing myself? Oh? 221 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: No, Actually, the data for coffee is so good. It's 222 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: one of the only things I know that people love 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: that it's actually good for you. So all the data 224 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: show up to four cups a day or espresso like 225 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: you take. There's nothing wrong with that. It actually is 226 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: associated with every positive health outcome you can imagine. 227 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the conversation. Maybe we'll get together in ten 228 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: years and see how we're going. 229 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it as well. 230 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: All right, Eric, go well, Eric Turple, Doctor Eric Turple 231 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: out of La Joye this morning. 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