00:00:00 Speaker 1: Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast with Jamie McKay. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: Thanks to Brent. 00:00:07 Speaker 1: You're specialist in John Deere construction equipment. 00:00:14 Speaker 3: Brand list Tiffany, she said, messaigal, welcome light and I said, well, one thing we. 00:00:28 Speaker 4: Can get, Amy Ellen and Welcome to the Country. Brought to you by Brent Today. The show is coming from enz Edmey's Queenstown office. We're I'm a lone soldier quite literally. Hey, we are going to kick it off obviously, we've got some real weather issues around the country are rain and flooding in Canterbury, wind and Wellington. In fact, we've got a red a rare get it right, red level warning that could pose a threat to life. So we're going to have a look at the weather of this. You're going to make it off by going to north Otago. Jane Smith, north Otago farmer. I'm not sure that the rain that's pounding Canterbury has made its way down to north Otago, but it's certainly cold at the bottom end of the country. She's standing on atop a snow clad hill according to herself, and she says there's never been a better time for New Zealand to come out of the climate change closet. We've got two trips across the ditch today to Australia. Michael Harvey, a a RABO Research senior analyst, a recently released report from Rabobank, and this really offers some opportunity. The Indonesians are going to have a new Milk in schools program. They need a hell of a lot of milk. Where's it going to come from? Hopefully New Zealand. Jeremy Rocks, Canterbury based lifestyle hobby hobby farm correspondent. He's in the midst of the flooding there. We'll catch up with him. He wants to talk about the rain solar farms. Apparently he's not a big fan of the huge new solar farm in Canterbury. Ge in farming and why he needs to buy a duck shooting license when ducks are a pest. He reckons He's happy enough to buy a fishing license, but farmers shouldn't have to buy a duck shooting license. Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent, going to catch up with him on the eve of the Aussie election this weekend. And Roving Row or roving Rowena, get it right, dunkm She's at the Dairy Women's Network conference in Hamilton tonight they'll crown the twenty twenty five dairy Woman of the Year. We'll have, hopefully from Ad Dunedin's studios. Michelle Watt with Rural News. Andy McDonald pressing the buttons. This is his music from his Spotify Spotify list in Auckland with sports News for You. But let's kick it off with Jane Smith. Jane, has the rain made its way down from Canterbury to North Otago. 00:02:51 Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Jamie. Just a very cold socialist wind bline. We shouldn't be surprised. It's the first to today and yes, snow and k can Hills behind me, Jamie, so you have no surprises. It's amazing now, isn't it. How much airtime, the weather and the sort of the alarmist I guess outcry on the weather getsies todays Jamie. But yep, just business as usual really may the first? 00:03:13 Speaker 4: Well, Jane, you're a hard hearted woman, because look in Wellington it is a rare red level wind warning with a possible threat to life. So surely that's worth shouting from the rooftops. 00:03:25 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, Jamie. I guess in this day and age of communication around whether it is a really high level. But I think in terms of whether events have always happened, and I think there's never been a bit of time for New Zealand. And I'm not just talking today but to be talking about, you know, coming out of the climate change closet and actually forging our own way. And there's been a lot of discussion, and I know my local councilor Jim Hopkins mentioned this yesterday around the Paris Accord and we seem to be asking the wrong question, Jamie. It isn't should we exit from the Paris Agreement. The real question is when should we? And we need to show some leadership and the global livestock sector is actually looking to New Zealand to do that. So we either exit now or in two to three years when the whole thing collapses and we've wasted time, money, focus and resources that we don't actually have. And so I just thinking this morning, Nicola willis I actually found your one point one billion that you need to balance the budget worth before breakfast this morning simply by exiting this this I guess fiscal folly, Jamie. 00:04:27 Speaker 4: What about the other way that they could get one point one billion is by ditching the key, we say, a subsidy. What do you think about that? 00:04:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting, Jamie. I mean it's surely all of these things should be means tested. And you know, look at the same thing with superannuation, which I know is really harsh when you paid tax all your life, But surely directing the money to the best possible place is the best best way to do that. And you know, again we seem to be spending all of this money. We've got potentially up for twenty four billion dollars in the next five years for net zero that twelve thousand a household and a country that can't afford its own healthcare. And you know, Jamie, on Insect Day on I was standing at the Dawn's service and it hit me, and it has done it before on Insect Day, that we've really let down our fullbearers. You know, they fought for the rights as an innovative, independent thinking country and now we seem to be scared to say the wrong thing and be sanitized with everything that we say. So you know, we've got a real leadership role to play here, and actually we shouldn't be apologizing for the fact that our admission's profile is you know a gross emissions are do have a high proportion of natural biogenic emmissions. Actually we should be really proud of that, and you know our sector has a peace and apologize for that would actually what we should be saying is goodness me, this is actually really great news. We can actually forge your head and forge a different pathway. And because I guess the thing is Jamie, I'll call it a fiscal folly before, but it's actually economic espionage if we carry on the same pathway. And the National Party seem to have sort of a a sa A lobotomy over this as soon as they entered the big blue tartess in Wellington. They're not allowed to speak out about this. But the neat effect of carrying on with net zero high food cost for everyone, high electricity electricity cost, and more intensive farming and it was really interesting. Jamie the leader of the British Conservative Party, and I think her name is kemmy Bad or not, she said about a month ago that net zero is impossible, not only impossible, but a fantasy, fantasy politics. And she said something like it's built on nothing promise the Earth and is costing it too. So I thought that is fantastic. Why don't we have politicians and I guess we do. We have Winston and Shane Jones, but I guess Mark Cameron seems to be the only other right wing politician that's allowed to have an opinion on this. 00:06:49 Speaker 4: Jamie, I got a text yes that. Unfortunately I haven't got the text machine set up here in the Queenstown studio, so I can't go back to it, but just off the top of my head, it was a text from someone saying accusing Jim Hopkins and Bryce McKenzie who was on earlier in the week from Groundswell, as being boomers and they were going to sell us, you know, down the road basically. And of course the argument, the counter argument to what you're saying, Jane Smith, is always what about Nessleigh and thenn they demand a low carbon footprint product or zero carbon. I'm not quite sure how you get to zero carbon. I can't see it happening myself by twenty fifty, but that the argument is, if they can't get it from us, they're going to go elsewhere. I'm not sure where that elsewhere is. 00:07:33 Speaker 5: By the way, it's such a lane and civid line that just gets rolled out, doesn't this And you know, we're actually really sick of that, that we're the solution, not the problem, and we need to ford your own way. And again we've got other countries, livestock countries saying that that we're actually looking to New Zealand to do that because actually, when you calculate methane correctly, and there's a very Orthodo dos IPCC reviewed way to do that, we actually realize that without even taking our sequestration into account, which by the way is fifty two percent of our land mass, we are absolutely better than carbon zero. We are carbon positive. And you know, my twelve year old would draw the emissions trajectory and it only goes one way and that's downwards. So we should be really pushing this forward, if only would spend the time and money or just the time actually to actually promote that instead of saying bowing down and for nice and denying. I mean, that's just such an it's just a mis nimo. It just seems absolutely ridiculous. Show them our trajectory and low input, low impact, free range farming, because actually the way that we're going at the moment we're trying to turn ourselves into a sort of a quasi Europe minus the subsidies by the way, with pills and potions and methane vexes that are just the trojan horse for again intensification. So do we want our livestock on the hell's free range, as I said, or do we want to become one big feed lot with pine trees on the hills, Chamie, Because you know we're losing a million stock in its of a year the moment we're losing, ironically to pine trees, when we've also got ninety thousand heap das of wolding pines increasing each year. So what do we want feed lots of pine trees? Absolutely not. So again with some courageous conversations around this. 00:09:15 Speaker 4: Are you suggesting are you suggesting we let the wilding pines go? 00:09:19 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, Jamie. And that's a total disaster. And anyone that's seen you look at some of those really dry areas through the McKinsey country at the moment, I mean, that's been a disgrace to seed that there are there's been some a GISs big potentially big pine tree plantations going in in those areas that are already a sitting duck or already obsected by molding pines. So those areas, even if they use pine trees, that won't spread. So certain species of pine pine trees, they are absolutely the environment that will be sitting duck for further wilding pines because of the seed in the ground. So those areas too. You look at the top of the Hackatara Mere Valley, a very very you know, a dry area, but it's got sustainable irrigation. But you put upon more pine trees and they're plus more welding pines and that is a disaster waiting to happen. So not sure where Environment Canterbury and the district councils are in this, but they are just missing in action and have failed to see the bigger picture Jamie, because again there's no way back from this. 00:10:17 Speaker 4: All right, a final comment from me on this in emissions target reductions and all that sort of stuff. If nineteen ninety Jones Smith, this kind of the year, we put the peg into the sand and we're measuring increases since then, there are no more bovines on the planet now than there were in nineteen ninety. The only differences. There are more human beings, we're burning more fossil fus fuels. Surely the answer is. 00:10:42 Speaker 6: Simple, absolutely, Jamie. 00:10:45 Speaker 5: But again it seems to be a conversation we can't have. And it doesn't matter whether you use nineteen ninety Kyoto or two thousand and five Paris or twenty seventeen zero CARBONAC. Since two thousand and five we're in terms of New Zealand flatlining, but in terms of the world only four percent of their missions are also human induced as well, Jamie. So the end of the day, isn't it about resilience? So adapting with the climate. The climate's always changed, otherwise we'd still be in the ice age, and so adapting and being resilient and putting our money in our mouth where the actual issues are, Jamie, and capture those opportunities. 00:11:19 Speaker 4: Are you out in the Miami Saturday morning? 00:11:21 Speaker 6: Wow? 00:11:22 Speaker 5: Blair actually goes missing an action for about a week. Actually during Dutch shitting. Her heads south. So someone's got to keep the GDP rolling and keep the farm running. But the kids and I usually go out and stalk a few ponds Dutch sheitting. It's not a massive messive thing. In Northicago, to be fair, because we usually have pretty dry ponds at this time of year. But there are water in the ponds and there are ducks around, so I'm sure we'll we'll go and find some. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: Jamie, Yeah, will you scare them off those ponds for the other shooters in the North Otaga region. Jane Smith, thank you very much for your time. Thanks Jamie Okay, Jane Smith. They're kicking off the country today. We've got two visits across the ditch today. The first one is with Michael Harvey. Indonesia have decided to introduce like a Milk in Schools program. It's going to present huge opportunities for the New Zealand dairy industry. Also before the end of their Jeremy Rook's Canterbury based lifestyle Hobby Farming correspondent does he need an arc in Canterbury? Chris Russell Arrosi correspondent and Rowena is at the Dairy Women's Network conference in Hamilton. Welcome back to the Country. Twelve twenty two. Andy McDonnell paneling the show out of Auckland. He wasn't listening to the show yesterday. Andy. We played a wee bit of Murray Head and one night in Bangkok on yesterday's show, Getting Ready for the Riversdale Rugby Club Reunion forty years on from nineteen eighty five. Anyhow, Michael Harvey has no interest in that at all because he's based in Sydney. He's Rabobank's senior dairy analyst. And well, Indonesia's going to introduce effectively what we would know as milk and schools program and the good news for US as a dairy exporting nation is they're going to try and get milk down the throats of sixty million students. What does that mean for us, Jamie, thanks for having me. 00:13:17 Speaker 7: Yeah. Look, school milk programs, as you said, they're not new. We had one here in Australia back in the fifties, a bit more before my time. But I think it's a positive reminder that, you know, dairy is a veryrial nutritional product that governments around the world see is an important part of the diet and that's fundamentally what's driving this most recent government policy, a broad based increase in the role out of our school milk program to sixty million students, but also a number of pregnant mums and expecting mums in Indonesia as well, So that in itself presents this potentially enormous increase in the size of the white milk market in Indonesia. Now there's questions around whether they'll be able to do it as successfully as they can, but ultimately, if they are able to roll it outlatively, they're thinking it's going to create a market increase of around two billion leaders or more of white milk consumption in Indonesia. So that itself is the opportunity for a growing white milk market in Indonesia. And then it becomes a question of product mix. What you know, what actually product does that look like? Where do they source the milk from? Do they actually need to import some of that product? So that's the question there, But that's an enormous opportunity if they can successfully roll this out. 00:14:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, So as it stands at the moment, And apologies if you've already given this, I was trying to read something and listen at the same time and I can't multitask Michael. So a good portion of their milk is already imported. 00:14:38 Speaker 6: That's right. 00:14:39 Speaker 7: I mean, Indonesia are what we would classify as a net importer, so they're an import deficit economy. It's a growing market because of the macro demographics that are at play there, So they import over two billion leaders and look on a liquid milk eqivalent base every year. And exporters like New Zealand are certainly very heavy in that market, So that itself is important trading partner already presents a new opportunity as they grow that white milk market. But what I mean clearly what we're watching in all this is one there's also a government policy that's that play here in Indonesia where they want to try and boost domestic milk production to cater to that growing market for white milk for school milk, And there's questions around how that's going to be achieved, given you they are already a net importer of dairy products. But potentially it creates opportunities to supply feed and equipment and heifers and so forth into that market as they build the domestic kurd. But there's also likely to be some opportunities just to export dairy ingredients and products into that market as that market grows. So there's some a few layers of opportunity, a few moving parts around how it might look like, and it's clearly going to be a multi year sort of program as they roll without. 00:15:44 Speaker 4: Well, historically New Zealand has said and I know this because I'm reading it from your press release, Michael excellently composed too. I might add, historically New Zealand has had a large dairy cow heifer export business, exporting on average ninety thousand head annually. However, a ban was implemented and twenty twenty three following a several maritime incidents, including one very tragic one, So that opportunity as it stands at the moment for New Zealand farmers is not there. 00:16:14 Speaker 7: No, that's right. That's something we're watching quite closely because there is this ambition to significantly increase domestic production in Indonesia. With that there will be a greater need to import heifers. We're starting to see a few volumes trickle out of Australia into that market and it's important timing because, like you said, New Zealand at an export banning place. Generally speaking, for both Australia and New Zealand, over a long period of time, a lot of their hefer trade indu Asia has been into the China market. That market's been very very weak recently because they're actually going through herd reduction. So this potentially creates an opportunity if there was a if there was a shift in government policy. But what you're also seeing in Indonesia is a recognition that clearly, whatever happens, they're not going to be able to source all the heapers out of this part of the world. So they're actually trying to open up markets and get protocol in place to be able to source heppers out of other regions like South America. So it's one of the layers that we're keeping a close eye on. 00:17:07 Speaker 4: Hey, just to finish on we've got duck shooting or duck hunting. I've got to be politically correct. Season to look forward to here in New Zealand this weekend. I'm not sure whether you're better off or worse off than us. You've got an election to look forward to. Have you early voted? 00:17:22 Speaker 7: I haven't where we make a habit of wandering down with the dog to the local school to get a sausage and cast their vote. Yeah, so it's a I guess it's an important date on the calendar for Australia. 00:17:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, Albanize is going to get back, is the he the poles. 00:17:37 Speaker 6: Are looking that way. 00:17:38 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm certainly not my expertise. I'll stick to my lanes, but the poles are certainly reading that way absolutely. 00:17:43 Speaker 4: Hey Michael Harvey out of Rabobanks, Sydney office, Thank you very much for your time. 00:17:48 Speaker 7: Thanks thanks having me got on. 00:17:50 Speaker 4: That's the first trip across the ditch today, Chris Russell Arossi, correspondent. But later in the hour it's twenty seven after twelve, we're also going to tell you how you can win one of those Kai Walker Let me get my pieces of paper. I must say that Ferg here, who's a legend in Queenstown and helped me set up the studio this morning, he's working in primitive conditions. I'm so thankful for what we've got in Dunedin. But I can tell you that if you want to win one of those ki Walker storm Force let me get it right. Storm Force Park is worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars. We are going to tell you how very shortly. But up next it's our lifestyle hobby Farmer correspondent out of a very wet Canterbury Jeremy Rocks he's after the break. 00:18:35 Speaker 1: Oh, come find. 00:18:42 Speaker 4: Bang on twelve thirty year. If the country brought to you by Brant Canterbury is very very wet at the moment, let's go there. Our guy lifestyle hobby farm correspondent Jeremy Rocks Jezer, How bad is it? 00:18:55 Speaker 2: Oh, it's not too bad. We've had one hundred and fifty mils but it's just been steady, so no drama around flooding or anything for us anyway. 00:19:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. I note that they're evacuating the seal on hunts or something like that, so there's obviously a bit of surface flooding. Maybe the worst weather could be up the road in Wellington, a rare red level wind warning a possible threat to life. Will keep an eye on that one. Where do I start with you? Solar farms. They've opened a big new solo farm down the road from you, just just sort of north or northwest of Ashburton. Yeah, have you got any comments on said solo farm? 00:19:36 Speaker 2: Well, just renewables are a waste of time unless it's hydro. I mean, just look what's happened in Spain and southern France. I mean it's just an efficient It doesn't work, it's expensive and I mean the carbon footprint of producing panels of wind turbines is off the chart, so you know, and look at the power prices in mainland when they've gone. 00:19:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's all very well, but you can't get got enough hydro to sustain our energy needs. Well, there's no bigger proponents of dams than me, but a they take a while. You've got to get consents to do them. Admittedly Shane Jones is going to fast track that, but our energy needs are immediate. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean this has been an ongoing issue for years and we're just at the mercy of the greens and everything and it's all ridiculously let's get it done. I mean wind and soul is hopeless. I mean wind like Watson Wellington. You've got to turn the bloody turbines off because they'll blow the bits otherwa and and you're not generating a lot of power on your solar panels today. 00:20:38 Speaker 6: Are you? 00:20:39 Speaker 8: No? 00:20:40 Speaker 4: But that one down the nash Burton or near Ashburton can generate a hell of a lot of power. And I understand those solar panels are good for what twenty twenty five years? 00:20:50 Speaker 2: Well, but you have. It's how well they weren't when they actually came, depending on what the weather done. 00:20:57 Speaker 4: Okay, what you're also up and well actually talking about the greenies, you're sounding like one yourself. You don't want a bar of this changes to our ge legislation. 00:21:08 Speaker 2: No, I don't, because I think once you open a can of We're you know, Pandora's box, you can't. 00:21:13 Speaker 6: Put it back. 00:21:14 Speaker 2: And I think it's as usual it's been decided by people who aren't affected directly by the consequences of it, because we're always being told Fartner's about what's good for us, so what's not without being actually included in the process. And I think I think that's the biggest issue I've got. And I mean, once you get into this ge GM stuff, you behold it to mont Santo and all these big corporates who have proprietary rights on seeds, and you run into issues with chemical resistance and stuff worse than we've got now. So no, And also the irony is we have a taste Pure Nature brand and if you start putting in genetically modified GMO stuff around, well that completely is asked about face without national brand, isn't it. 00:21:56 Speaker 4: I will be asking Chris Russell, who's coming up shortly on the show. I think he might have an opposite opinion to you on this one here. 00:22:03 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but if you're putting boluses like bow there and stuff, you know you're creating a problem. I mean, in Australia they finish all their animals on grain and we finish ours on grass. And grass is a natural you know, you know, a natural source of protein for animals that ruminant animals have been designed to digest properly. Whereas on feed lots, you know, cattle aren't designed to bloody grain, are they. It's grain? Speaking of grange, because I'm really annoyed about fish and game because you know, duck sitting coming up this weekend. And it isn't about landowners not having a license. We know that because you're shitting in your own farm. But I want to know, and particularly after the way fishing game have been carrying on in Southland, why any person who is invited to shoot ducks on a private farm should have to pay for a license. I don't know. In all the thirty years and forty years of ducks and when we shot at home as well and feeding out grain and stuff to bring the ducks in. I don't know any that fish and game have had on the duck population or added to it. And in fact, ducks are polluting you know Lake Ellsmere or White Aura, you know, and stuff like that. And so why should I have to pay for a day license, I mean, a full second license. It's ridiculous. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: You've got no argument with me on that one. Let's finish on a really license. I know there should be. There should be an opening morning license for a lot of shooters. They go out at seven o'clock in the morning, they fire a few shots and anger till nine or ten the guns have brought away. And that's what I agree with you in opening day license. Let's just finish on a really positive note. You sent me a we text or a pixed this morning of some calf prices. I can't believe this on with you. One thousand and ninety dollars for one hundred and seventy kilo stare calf. That's huge, huge money. IOPs, where are you gone, Jeremy? 00:24:05 Speaker 2: But no, no, none of the online options. A yeah, the prices are just going mad. Like today, I think the average price of stairs will by the look of it will be five to eighty or something like that. Everyone's just going mad because of the price. Is so really good for the guys who are stuck in with beefcaut and stuff, and it's really good for the industry. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: All right, Jeremy, I got to go, Thank you very much for some of your time. Good luck on Saturday morning. You yep, yep, and we're going to go to a break, but just some breaking news. The WiFi is not flashy. I'm going to have to send a list of complaints to Auckland HQ about the Queenstown studio. Look, just warning coming through or a message coming through about this potential threat to life in Wellington, and they're asking people and this sounds rather dire, doesn't it. They're asking people to go to the middle of their houses, so there must be some hell of a wind. And Wellington will follow that one up. Maybe Michelle might update that one on Rural News if she's got her head headphones on. But we will take a break on the other side of it. We'll do Rural News with Michelle Andy McDonald with Sport and I'm going to tell you how you can win that ki Walker storm Force Parker. You're going nuts on these worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars. That's after the break twenty one away from one. You're with the country very shortly. The Latest and Rural News with Michelle's Sport with Andy McDonald. 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Check out their range at Kaiwaker Clothing dot com. Here's the latest in rural news with Michelle from our Dunedin studios. 00:26:43 Speaker 1: The country's world news with Cod Cadet, New Zealand's leading right on Lawnbower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co dot z. 00:26:50 Speaker 6: For your locals. 00:26:51 Speaker 1: Douggist. 00:26:52 Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks Jamie, and you mentioned that wild weather that's happening across the country. A little bit of an update with that. So there's been a deluge of rain and potentially life threatening wins are bashing parts of the country. A rare red warning has been issued for Wellington and the alert level indicates possible threat to life from destructive wins. There's orange wind warnings that cover Marlborough and Wirra Rapper as well, and orange rain warnings continue for Canterbury and kai Korda, with Selwyn under a state of emergency. So keep an eye it out there, folks. Are the wins I think I was reading on the warnings before in Wellington set to get up to one hundred and forty kilometers an hour, which is pretty full on stuff, So stay safe out there. And that's for rural news. We have Andy McDonald's sport sport with. 00:27:37 Speaker 1: An AFCO Kiwi to the Bowl since nineteen oh four. 00:27:40 Speaker 4: Yes thanks Michelle. 00:27:41 Speaker 10: And in sport, Black Fern seven star Georgia Miller and exciting Blues outside back Braxton Sorenson McGee headline. Five uncap players named in the Black Ferns fifteen squad for the upcoming PAC four series. No room for World Cup winners at Ruby Tuwey, Chelsea Bremner or Renee Holmes in the thirty three strong squad the Central Pulse. They've recruited former Australian Diamond Gabby Simpson as a temporary replacement ahead of the twenty twenty five antak Ain Zed Sorry Premiership Netball League, providing mid court cover for injured Silver Ferns Maddie Gordon and Whitney Sooness and just live. In the NBA halftime between the Houston Rockets Golden State Warriors must win for the Rockets. They are up seventy six points to forty nine. That's sport, Jamie, Hey, Andy, is there a better rugby player in there? There isn't because she won the Calvin Ar Tremaine Memorial Trophy in this country than Georgia Miller. 00:28:33 Speaker 4: You'd be hard to argue with that. 00:28:35 Speaker 10: Wallace Attiti hasn't played much, but based on his last year's form that there'll be an argument. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: I'd give an Ardie Savella. But she is outstanding and it's interesting some of the old guard not making the cut and that is very exciting young fullback out of Auckland. And I've just forgotten the name which you mentioned in your sports Braxton Sorence and McGee. Yeah, well, a name like Sorenson. There's a bit of leg breeding in there as well. I think what she's a bit of a gun as well. Really looking forward to that. We're going to take a break. On the other side of it. We're off to Australia for the second time today. Our Assie correspondent is Chris Russell. They've got their election on Saturday. Oh, Chris is a bit of a right winger. I know how he'll be voting, but I think he might be on the wrong side of this one. He's up next, coming up to thirteen away from on our Ossie correspondent second trip across the Tasman today is Chris Russell. Chris, I know you're a center right voter. You're going to be on the wrong side of Saturday's election. 00:29:33 Speaker 11: Well, I must say today, Jamie, it's certainly looking that that's going to be the case. And of course a lot of questions already being asked is why that is. You know, has it been a campaign based on truth or based on lies? 00:29:46 Speaker 6: Who knows. 00:29:47 Speaker 11: But unless we see another sort of unwinnable election when like we did with the Morrison government, I don't think we're going to see a changing government. And of course there are a lot of farmers nervous about that, particularly the West Australian farmers who are very concerned about this ban on live sheep exports because they just don't have anywhere to go and the sort of compensation money the government's offering is not going to pay for the extra advatise, extra capacity to handle them, move them to the Eastern States, or any of those sort of changes. So it's a nervous election I think for farmers Jaming. 00:30:22 Speaker 4: Maybe you need Trump to change the election result like he did in Canada. 00:30:25 Speaker 11: Chris Well, I think he's already had an effect because I think a lot of people are equating, probably unjustly. 00:30:33 Speaker 6: Peter Dutton with Trump in some of his views. 00:30:35 Speaker 11: He had one of the toughest jobs when he was a minister looking after immigration and brought a security and so on, and he was seen to be a hard man, which you need to be in that job. And so I think some people have said, well, this is perhaps not the sensitive man that we want running that. I think, particularly women have come against him. I've been at some of the pre polls just talking to people there, and I think there's definitely a trend again favoritism for Peter Dutton when it comes to the female vote, who feel they need a bit of sensitivity, a bit of understanding about their plight, and they believe they're going to get more out of Albanesi than they are going to get out of Dutton. 00:31:13 Speaker 6: At this stage, talk. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: To me about the potential battle between Bega Cheese and Fonterra over mainland cheese. Of course, Fonterra is looking to get rid of its consumer brands. 00:31:27 Speaker 11: Yes, well, I understand that Bega Cheese just had a decision from the Supreme Court which has rejected Fonterra's attempt to stop Bega renegotiating a long running branding agreement over the mainland brand. But Barry Irvin is still very interested. He's the chairman of Vega Cheese in buying the four billion dollar mainland consumer butter and cheese business, which is spun out of Fonterra in New Zealand. So they're obviously happy with the outcome of the Supreme Court case and that's been around. That agreement with Fonterras is two thousand and one, covering cheese in Victoria and Tasmania under the Vega brand, which it also markets and generates about six percent of the mainland group's revenue. 00:32:14 Speaker 6: So it's going to be interesting to see what happens. 00:32:16 Speaker 11: Fonterra wanted the court to rule that its devestment for mainland division wouldn't affect the existing deal with Vega, but of course Viga is saying no, if you're going to take that out, we want to have a chance having I go. So it'd be interesting to follow where that goes. Barry Irvine is a very determined man. I've interviewed him a couple of time on my podcast series and he's a very determined man. 00:32:35 Speaker 6: So it'll be an inting battle. 00:32:37 Speaker 4: Hey Chris, what's the name of your podcast? I'm giving you a shameless plug here. 00:32:40 Speaker 11: Ah well, it's called ag Reminders and it's about to be relaunched by our Institute Australia here in Australia. For a long time it was with Southern Cross Ostereo, but you'll see it back on deck shortly. There's about forty three episodes covering all sorts of aspects from cheese daring, animal welfare and so on. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Now I was going to cover this one on Rural News, but she's kept or she's kept the power to dry and left the story for you. Virtual fencing is now legal in New South Wales. It's likely to save farmers millions. 00:33:14 Speaker 11: Well, when you look at the cost of fencing at the moment, you're looking at around about ten thousand dollars a. 00:33:19 Speaker 6: Kilometer to put in physical fencing. 00:33:22 Speaker 11: So for a long time New South Wales has stood out against the other states of Queensland West Australia. Tas MADEI in Northern Territory where virtual fencing has been illegal for a long time and said no, we're still concerned about animal welfare rights and so on. But there's been some modification of the currents and the voltages that are used, and so it's now going to be legal in New South Wales. I must say it looks pretty cumbasso and still to me they're wearing this little mini. 00:33:49 Speaker 6: Solar panel around their neck when they walk around. But it's certainly his idea. 00:33:53 Speaker 11: It was particularly useful in western New South Wales where you can sit in Pitt Street in Sydney and move the from one water hole to another just by pushing the fence up behind them remotely by using satellite based controls. 00:34:06 Speaker 6: So I think where it's going to be a good value thing. 00:34:11 Speaker 11: It's also of course going to save a lot of damage from pigs, kangaroos EMUs to the fencing the physical fencing that's there, and I think everyone's very keen to see virtual fencing being allowed despite the drawbacks of this expense and the heavy collars. 00:34:25 Speaker 6: Around their necks. 00:34:26 Speaker 4: Let's finish quickly with footy. We're both big fans. Are you happy with les Kiss your new Wallaby's coach or not till next year? 00:34:34 Speaker 6: Yeah? I'm very happy. I think that was predictable. 00:34:36 Speaker 11: I'm surprised and I'm pleased to see that Schmid's going to stay on now until the middle of next year. 00:34:42 Speaker 6: It wasn't. 00:34:43 Speaker 11: I mean, there's two advantages. One is I think he has lot more to do and a longer time we get with Schmid, the better the Wallabies will be for it. The downside is of course that Les kiss Onney has about fourteen months to prepare the side for the World Cup, and if everything falls apart over the next year, while he's not going to have much time to try and recover it. But I think that's unlikely, and I think that everyone is gambling. 00:35:06 Speaker 6: On the fact that Schmid's going to continue. 00:35:08 Speaker 11: To do a great job. We've got the British and Irish Lions tour coming up shortly. 00:35:12 Speaker 6: He's got a pretty big schedule, which I know he's nervous about. 00:35:15 Speaker 11: And he's been allowed more time home with his family at Kawakawa up in the top of the North Island there, which is understandable that he wants that at his age. 00:35:24 Speaker 6: He's also keen for the while he's not to be seen to. 00:35:27 Speaker 11: Being coached by a sort of Dad's army of coaches, so I think he's excited about Les coming. 00:35:32 Speaker 6: We're excited about both of them being. 00:35:33 Speaker 11: There, and I just hope that Joe Schmid stays on as a consultant for less, a bit of a mentor for him as he carries on the good work. 00:35:41 Speaker 4: Okay, Chris Russell, thanks for your time. Got to go enjoy another term of Anthony Albaniz. He wo're taking a break. We're going to wrap it with Rowena Duncan. Is that the Dairy Women's Network and your conference in Hamilton? Sure, just a wrapping of the show off to Hamilton, Rowena, don't come. Just reminding her if you want to win the Kaiwaker storm Force jacket, text the keyword win and how many seasons you've been farming to five double o nine, don't forget your name? And where you're listening from? Rowena is listening from Hamilton. The dairy Woman of the Year will be crowned tonight, Rowena. Who's it going to be? 00:36:17 Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know, Jamie. It's yeah, it's always a tricky one and I'm looking forward to finding out. 00:36:22 Speaker 11: You know. 00:36:22 Speaker 8: This started back in twenty twelve when Barbara Kuruger won it. Other winners have included the Lanks of Kathy Melne who was the first female president of Federated Farmers. So yeah, it's always great to have a gala dinner with a couple of hundred women all dressed up to the nines and crowned someone who's pretty inspirational to the industry. 00:36:40 Speaker 5: But hey, look, it is a miserable day in. 00:36:42 Speaker 8: Hamilton here today some nice, misty, drizzly rain, so hopefully farmers out there need it because it's pretty miserable. 00:36:49 Speaker 4: Otherwise, is this an equal opportunities function tonight? Can blokes turn up? Well? 00:36:54 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Jamie, we had definitely not discriminatory. If you went in Queenstown, you could have come along and I bet you you had a ball. We could have put a nice pink scarf on you and you could have had a photo boost photo with me and embraced it. 00:37:07 Speaker 4: Well, good old John mcavin, he never fails and never disappoints me at all. He's he's wanting a dairy man of the Air. 00:37:15 Speaker 8: Oh well, I guess we could look into doing that. You know, has he got some nominations for me? We could form a committee, have a meeting about a meeting and make it happen. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: Hey, have you got the finalists for this? Year's dairy Woman of the Year in front of you perchance. 00:37:28 Speaker 8: I don't actually, but I think it as Lara Sutton, Francis beats In and Joe Sheridan's so yeah. Francis is based in mid Canterbury, I think from memory, Lara's based in the White Cuttle and so Joe as well. She's a manager of our farm. Lara works for Dairy and Z and Francis has just really been quite inspirational in her community from what I remember. I know she does more than that, but you've put me on the spot. 00:37:54 Speaker 4: Jaw Okay, right, well I'm out of time, Rowena, thank you very much. We'll talk to the dairy Woman of the Year on SO tomorrow show. Catch you back then. Batting down the Hatches in Wellington catch. 00:38:04 Speaker 1: All the latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast with Jamie McKay. 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