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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, and welcome in to the Saturday edition of

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Speaker 4: Weekend Sport on News Talk saed B. July twenty, Happy birthday,

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Speaker 4: teen test All Black and Blues Assistant coach Greg Feak.

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Speaker 4: Sir Edmund Hillary born on this date, July twenty, nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 4: He passed away in two thousand and eight and one

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Speaker 4: of our greatest drivers. Chris Amon Mbe also born on

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Speaker 4: this date July twenty, nineteen forty three, thirteen years in

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Speaker 4: Formula one among many other achievements. Chris Amon passed away

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Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen. I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald.

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Speaker 4: It is a slightly shorter show than usual, but in

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Speaker 4: some ways it's actually a longer show than usual because

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Speaker 4: at two thirty we're going to take you to snap

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Speaker 4: Dragon Stadium in San Diego. What a name for Full

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Speaker 4: commentary of the All Blacks third Test of the Year

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Speaker 4: Fiji are the opponents. Elliott Smith and former All Black

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Speaker 4: center Frank Bumps have the call for you going to

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Speaker 4: preview the game after one with freshly appointed Fiji and

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Speaker 4: Drewer coach and former Elite player and referee Glenn Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Keen for your thoughts on this one as well. What

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Speaker 4: are you expecting this afternoon and our Fiji a chance

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Speaker 4: of beating the All Blacks for the first time ever

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Speaker 4: or in fact getting within thirty points, which they haven't

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Speaker 4: done in the seven previous official Test matches between these two. Well,

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Speaker 4: I get to the All Blacks after one first up

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Speaker 4: today though the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't believe it.

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Speaker 3: You would not believe it.

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Speaker 6: Three miss kicks and it's the Raiders who somehow stayed ahead.

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Speaker 4: And stayed ahead at the final whistle last night a

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen defeat for the Warriors by the Raiders and

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Speaker 4: Canberra the club's top eight hopes now starting to Tita

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Speaker 4: top rugby leg Joerno Buzz Rothfield with us very surely

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Speaker 4: we'll take your calls to Warriors fans unpicked this one

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Speaker 4: for us and where are we now in terms of

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Speaker 4: the top eight? Are the metters around today, two rounds

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Speaker 4: into the Open Championship at Royal Troon in Scotland. Keep

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Speaker 4: It Golfers Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillyer will play the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Shane Lowry has a two shot lead. We'll wrap that

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Speaker 4: with Scott Taylor. Out of talkSPORT, Adam Peacock from Australia,

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Speaker 4: and of course live commentary of the All Blacks against

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Speaker 4: Fiji from two thirty this afternoon. Please join the show

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Speaker 4: Jason at newstalksb dot co dot nzen coming up ten

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Speaker 4: past twelve.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

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Speaker 1: weekends for It with Jason five.

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Speaker 3: They call oh eight hundred and eighty eight eighty.

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Speaker 6: In the one play left for the Warriors, It's just

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Speaker 6: that sort of season for them. Another one goes astray

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Speaker 6: for the Warriors and the Camera Raiders have snapped a

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Speaker 6: losing street which stretch the rail their season.

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Speaker 3: It's not Joi, it's relief.

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Speaker 6: The Camera Raiders scored one less try but have held

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Speaker 6: on you never hit it in this game and they

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Speaker 6: have beat the Warriors twenty eight points to eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Warrior's path to the NERL playoffs has become

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Speaker 4: even tougher. Twenty eighteen, they lost to the Raiders in

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Speaker 4: the Australian capital last night. They called their way back

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Speaker 4: from an early fourteen NYEL deficit, but Warriors five to eighth.

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Speaker 4: Chanelle Harris Tavita missed a game tying conversion from almost

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Speaker 4: in front with seven minutes to go. The Warriors actually

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Speaker 4: outscored the Raiders four tries to three, but just one

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Speaker 4: of those tries was converted by Adam Pompey before he

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Speaker 4: Tavita took over the kicking and couldn't find them with

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Speaker 4: Warriors twelfth on the ladder, six more matches to come

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Speaker 4: this weekend, seven rounds to play. Let's bring in hugely respected,

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Speaker 4: vastly experienced rugby league journo Phil buzz Rothfield Phil. Is

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Speaker 4: it too simple to say better goalkicking would have won

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Speaker 5: Look, the scoreboard showed that didn't it. You look the

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Speaker 5: statistics share they went. He just didn't land that sit

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Speaker 5: no you've got the non goal kick. You scored more

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Speaker 5: because I can't see them being involved in Cornell's football

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Speaker 4: Look, I think the rugby league public around New Zealand

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Speaker 5: Oh well, they could have turned up at the start

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Speaker 5: give fourteen points start. Look, I know they've got to

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Speaker 5: come back in them and they've done it before this year,

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Speaker 5: but the cold, freezing night and the national capital there,

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Speaker 5: they just gave up gave away too much start, they

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Speaker 5: lacked discipline early and yeah, sorry, note, I've just got

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Speaker 5: in the park. But they they just didn't turn up early,

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Speaker 5: and it's very, very difficult to come back against this

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Speaker 4: Turning up early, Mitch Barnet's it afterwards, we're just finding

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Speaker 4: ways to hurt ourselves. How frustrating must that be for

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Speaker 5: Oh well, it's hard to believe, you know, Andrew Webster.

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Speaker 5: You don't go from a Galliam coach for there or

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Speaker 5: an ordinary coach. So look, he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you've got injuries. Johnson, Sean Johnson, Tara Harris,

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Speaker 5: but every side's got injuries. And you had a couple

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Speaker 5: the Warriors to had two State of Origin players. They're

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Speaker 5: phenomenal athletes, these guys. To back up from that colossal

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Speaker 5: know where you go from here, and you know the

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Speaker 5: reasons for the fact that it just hasn't worked out

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Speaker 5: as you know, like you'd hoped. You know, I thought

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Speaker 5: worked out. You look at your draw and the run home.

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Speaker 5: You've got West Tiger's Power Dolphins, Manly Bulldog Sharks. You know,

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Speaker 5: you win all those games, you'll you'll make it. But

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Speaker 5: I can't see you beating Manly away or the Sharks away,

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Speaker 5: and you know that the Bulldogs are very hard to

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Speaker 4: So we all thought exactly what you said before, that

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it does happen. You look at the paramatter rails,

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the year. But you know, these are

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Speaker 5: you know, and I think the week after around that

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Speaker 5: that's more than that. That's an average of fifty points

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Speaker 5: the grit that this football side showed last year. Look,

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Speaker 5: I'm not blamed because I thought Adam Foranuah Blake went

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Speaker 5: don't know that there was some sort of internal issue

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Speaker 5: But you know, they're not only had a top four

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Speaker 5: football side, I thought, but they had that massive, massive

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Speaker 5: even in Australia because of what they've achieved since COVID. Look,

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to have a look at a roster,

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Speaker 5: and look, I don't really want to single them out,

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Speaker 5: but they haven't turned up, they haven't justified their pay

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Speaker 5: make the finals. So it's going to be a really

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Speaker 5: interesting post mortem come October.

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Speaker 4: Just on that if there is an acceptance, and they

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Speaker 4: won't they because it's still a mathematical possibility. But if

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Speaker 4: there's an acceptance even privately, that the top eight now

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Speaker 4: looks unlike what should they be doing as a coaching stuff?

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Speaker 4: Should they be handing younger players, those who are contracted

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, it's a really good point, you mate, you're

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Speaker 5: games to go. You win everything, you'll get thirty three points.

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Speaker 5: You'll make it, Okay, I reckon thirty two points? Is

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Speaker 5: the cutoff was? As I explained early when I went

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Speaker 5: through the schedule, that will not happen and plus you've

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Speaker 5: a nice draw for a Fortnite You've got the West

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Speaker 5: Tigers and Parramatta. So I'd stick with my A grade side,

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Speaker 5: no question. Though in a few weeks time, when it

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Speaker 5: becomes mathematically impossible to make the eight, it is time.

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Speaker 5: It is time to experiment because and you know what,

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Speaker 5: the guys who are going to miss out in selection

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Speaker 5: won't have reason to go to Andrew Webs and say

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Speaker 5: this isn't fair. You know why, I'm because they haven't

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Speaker 5: aimed up. And yeah, it's been a really disappointing year.

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Speaker 5: Because I said, you've got a lot of it. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of fans here in Australia who just Admias

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Speaker 5: so much what they achieved last year. And it was

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Speaker 5: good for rugby league. It really was raiding well on

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Speaker 5: television for that game last night, I think showed both

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Speaker 5: those football clubs, the Raiders and the Warriors aren't really

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Speaker 5: top eight sides this year. You know, it was a

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Speaker 5: pretty messy game and Ricky Stewart was very quick to

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Speaker 5: concede at his press conference afterwards. That the Raiders were

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Speaker 5: lucky to win on the back of your Paul goalkicking

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Speaker 4: He started at fullback last night. I had to leave

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Speaker 4: and failed an hia. Roger to Avasa Chik moved from

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Speaker 4: Would you be playing Roger to Ivarsa Chick at fullback?

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Speaker 5: Definitely. I think it's time to make that change. I

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Speaker 4: Great to chat you, Phil, love talking rugby league with you,

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Speaker 5: Thank you, have a good day you too.

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Speaker 4: Mate, Phil Buzz Rothfield there one of the most experienced

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Speaker 4: Great to have him on weekend Sport, your chance to

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Speaker 9: We love to be one hundred percent on our goalkicking

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Speaker 4: Us The other kicks that he missed were tricky, Capewell

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Speaker 4: be having a different conversation. Today. The Warriors have nineteen

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Speaker 4: hed b lines open to talk. Some worries. Haven't got

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Speaker 4: if you want to have a chat, now's the time. Oh,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twelve, twenty eight back

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Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 4: Dogs twenty nine to one. He has some tough questions

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Speaker 4: to be asked of this Warrior squad over the week

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Speaker 4: ahead and the weeks ahead. Finn, are you preparing for

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Speaker 4: Top eight football for the Warriors?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Get it? Get it?

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Speaker 12: And mate, who bloody knows.

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Speaker 4: It's sparking like a true Warriors fan, you know.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you tell me this. Finally, mate, you're closer to

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Speaker 12: that level of the game, you've got a better insight.

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Speaker 12: You tell me what, what has actually changed the Warriors

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Speaker 12: things are changed and groups versus changed. That's true.

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Speaker 4: We're just losing to there fun. I don't want, I

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Speaker 4: don't want. No, you're back, sorry, mate, we just lost

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Speaker 4: your last. But well, yeah, you were saying, what has

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Speaker 12: Yeah, what has changed?

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Speaker 7: Mate?

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Speaker 12: They've told you close to the game, they've told us

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Speaker 12: I've done that. But in twenty nine years, the results

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Speaker 12: Because it's the same twenty nine years.

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Speaker 4: What was better last year though, wasn't it? And it

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Speaker 4: a lot of them was so optimistic after last year

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Speaker 4: about this year. That's what makes it inexplicable and almost

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Speaker 12: But Piney, we've we've had those tipping points right through

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Speaker 12: it's another season of hot and cold. Has miss what?

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Speaker 12: What's what's actually systematically inherently wrong?

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Speaker 4: It's a It's a fascinating philosophical question, fin because what

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Speaker 4: something within this club that is repelling consistency?

430
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Speaker 12: Exactly? You just can't put your It should be something greater,

431
00:23:50,467 --> 00:23:54,387
Speaker 12: I mean after thirty years and it should have been identified.

432
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Speaker 12: And yeah, it's another has a missed season.

433
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Speaker 4: Great way to kick off the conversation this afternoon. Fun

434
00:24:01,627 --> 00:24:04,707
Speaker 4: Thanks mate, I've enjoyed talking to you. Please call back, mate. Yeah,

435
00:24:04,707 --> 00:24:06,587
Speaker 4: I've en George chatting to you. And you're right. Do

436
00:24:06,707 --> 00:24:08,587
Speaker 4: we have to zoom out and look in on this club?

437
00:24:09,227 --> 00:24:12,787
Speaker 4: It doesn't I don't know. Does the way the club

438
00:24:12,787 --> 00:24:15,467
Speaker 4: played in the late nineties and in the mid two

439
00:24:15,467 --> 00:24:17,427
Speaker 4: thousands and the early part of the twenty tenths. Does

440
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Speaker 4: that actually have an effect on how they play now

441
00:24:21,147 --> 00:24:25,107
Speaker 4: or you know? Or does it our clubs? Are some

442
00:24:25,147 --> 00:24:28,907
Speaker 4: clubs just conditioned to success year after year after year.

443
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Speaker 4: You look at the Melbourne Storm for example in the NRL?

444
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Speaker 4: Are there certain clubs that just expect success and what

445
00:24:38,187 --> 00:24:42,427
Speaker 4: you put out there comes back to you again, I

446
00:24:42,507 --> 00:24:45,947
Speaker 4: look at last year. Who wasn't optimistic after last year?

447
00:24:47,147 --> 00:24:49,547
Speaker 4: Unfortunately that optimism looks to have been misplaced.

448
00:24:49,587 --> 00:24:52,667
Speaker 5: Hello philm Yeah, get a body.

449
00:24:52,987 --> 00:24:55,827
Speaker 13: Yeah we were all off the mystic the last year.

450
00:24:55,867 --> 00:24:59,627
Speaker 13: But oh god, here we go again. Like Finn said,

451
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Speaker 13: you know the last caller, I think the same thing.

452
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Speaker 13: What the hell is going on? Because that is the

453
00:25:05,187 --> 00:25:07,587
Speaker 13: same thing and it's been the same thing, like he said,

454
00:25:07,627 --> 00:25:09,707
Speaker 13: for those years, you know, hot and cold and you

455
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Speaker 13: make a couple of finals and then last year they

456
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Speaker 13: looked like they would be making a final this year

457
00:25:14,387 --> 00:25:18,427
Speaker 13: so promising, but at the end of the season, you know,

458
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Speaker 13: it's the same result. And even the Ossie clubs they

459
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Speaker 13: don't you know, I don't think there wouldn't be many

460
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Speaker 13: of them that haven't had a run where they've had

461
00:25:27,547 --> 00:25:30,387
Speaker 13: lean years, but then they have good years and they

462
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Speaker 13: and they win the Grand Final, you know, where they

463
00:25:33,027 --> 00:25:35,107
Speaker 13: win a couple of finals, they come through. But this

464
00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:37,787
Speaker 13: doesn't seem to be the case with the Warriors. And

465
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,827
Speaker 13: we've had good coaches like Cleary and this guy Andrew

466
00:25:40,827 --> 00:25:42,987
Speaker 13: Webster I think is a great coach as well, and

467
00:25:43,187 --> 00:25:46,827
Speaker 13: we've had good players, but just something that doesn't give

468
00:25:47,267 --> 00:25:49,347
Speaker 13: not getting a result, you know, the big one just

469
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Speaker 13: doesn't seem to But what I wanted to say was,

470
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Speaker 13: I was interesting listening to your rugby league man now

471
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Speaker 13: and I would have loved to have known who the

472
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Speaker 13: players were that if he had named and said they

473
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Speaker 13: aren't pulling their way to it not worth their paycheck.

474
00:26:02,947 --> 00:26:05,147
Speaker 13: You know, he said I won't name them, but there

475
00:26:05,227 --> 00:26:08,867
Speaker 13: was some there that he obviously thought shouldn't be there.

476
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Speaker 13: And the other thing that I think was a great

477
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Speaker 13: point that he made was that how many times of

478
00:26:14,107 --> 00:26:17,867
Speaker 13: the Worrier has got off let the other team get

479
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:20,147
Speaker 13: off to a fourteen to twenty Nils start, you know,

480
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Speaker 13: at half the momement, at half time and they just

481
00:26:23,027 --> 00:26:24,867
Speaker 13: haven't turned up, you know at the start.

482
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Speaker 4: Phil, It's too often, too often, And you know it

483
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Speaker 4: was something they identified early on in the season from memory,

484
00:26:34,467 --> 00:26:36,307
Speaker 4: was not starting very well when not standing very well.

485
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Speaker 4: They seem to have addressed it for the last for

486
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Speaker 4: the most part, but then last night again they were

487
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Speaker 4: BOT fourteen nailed down after twenty minutes, and it's always

488
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Speaker 4: difficult to come back from that. Good to chat to you, Philt, Henry, Hello,

489
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Speaker 4: you may what's your main takeaway from last night?

490
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Speaker 11: Well, but of disappointment. Really there was I think the game,

491
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Speaker 11: whether you know, I've got un't most respect for him,

492
00:26:57,947 --> 00:26:59,587
Speaker 11: and I definitely think he's the man for the job.

493
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Speaker 11: That his reluctance to start Roger two of us a

494
00:27:02,587 --> 00:27:05,547
Speaker 11: ship at fullback, that really creates me the game changed

495
00:27:05,627 --> 00:27:07,987
Speaker 11: last night. We don't when artists went to fallback, we

496
00:27:08,107 --> 00:27:09,707
Speaker 11: got on the front foot and we started winning.

497
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you'll see him there now, Henry. It's

498
00:27:14,107 --> 00:27:16,307
Speaker 4: okay to walk back decisions, right, And you know, they

499
00:27:16,307 --> 00:27:19,547
Speaker 4: were all in on Roger playing at center this year

500
00:27:19,627 --> 00:27:22,427
Speaker 4: because you know they had chance. Nicol Klukstar is there

501
00:27:22,707 --> 00:27:25,027
Speaker 4: as they number one fall back and they said, right, okay, Roger,

502
00:27:25,067 --> 00:27:26,587
Speaker 4: you're a center. We're going to make them one of

503
00:27:26,627 --> 00:27:28,667
Speaker 4: the best centers in the comp But things change, right,

504
00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:30,667
Speaker 4: so I kind of walked things back. It's okay, from

505
00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:32,307
Speaker 4: to where the one jersey for the rest of the season.

506
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Speaker 11: Yep, and I certainly would be one to support that decision. Now,

507
00:27:37,027 --> 00:27:38,907
Speaker 11: an interesting thing that I noticed with the head clash

508
00:27:38,947 --> 00:27:45,307
Speaker 11: that took the young fella the young fallback off. When

509
00:27:45,347 --> 00:27:47,707
Speaker 11: the clash happened, both players reeled away from the tackle.

510
00:27:47,707 --> 00:27:50,347
Speaker 11: I think he was holding his chest and the other

511
00:27:50,347 --> 00:27:52,947
Speaker 11: player was on the ground holding his head. How does

512
00:27:53,027 --> 00:27:56,747
Speaker 11: the off field doctor decide who's going to get pulled,

513
00:27:56,747 --> 00:27:59,387
Speaker 11: because on the optics of it, you certainly would have

514
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Speaker 11: pulled the Raiders player at least, if not both of them,

515
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Speaker 11: because obviously I think he did have ahead in directly failed.

516
00:28:04,427 --> 00:28:06,627
Speaker 11: But why didn't the Graders player get takes off at

517
00:28:06,627 --> 00:28:07,787
Speaker 11: the same time or do I miss that?

518
00:28:08,107 --> 00:28:10,547
Speaker 4: No, great question. I don't think he did, Henry. It's

519
00:28:10,587 --> 00:28:12,627
Speaker 4: a great question because there's one of those sideline doctors,

520
00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:14,387
Speaker 4: isn't it they make the call. They don't have the

521
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Speaker 4: smart mouthguards or anything like that that Rugby do to

522
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Speaker 4: measure the impact on head or otherwise. I think that

523
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,587
Speaker 4: I think, and I stand to be corrected. I think

524
00:28:23,587 --> 00:28:25,787
Speaker 4: they're just looking at a screen. I think that's all

525
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:27,467
Speaker 4: they're doing, is looking at a screen and go all

526
00:28:27,467 --> 00:28:29,107
Speaker 4: that looks like a bit of a collision. He needs

527
00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:30,867
Speaker 4: to come off for a check because often you see

528
00:28:31,067 --> 00:28:33,107
Speaker 4: and it happened when the Warrior has played somebody in

529
00:28:33,107 --> 00:28:36,147
Speaker 4: Wellington at the beginning of last season, and you'll remember

530
00:28:36,147 --> 00:28:37,947
Speaker 4: who the player was had to go off, looked over

531
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Speaker 4: to the sideline, thought what do you mean? What do

532
00:28:40,227 --> 00:28:41,787
Speaker 4: you mean I have to come off? And then you

533
00:28:41,827 --> 00:28:44,147
Speaker 4: get things like last night where it seems so obvious

534
00:28:44,147 --> 00:28:46,027
Speaker 4: that someone should come off and they don't have to.

535
00:28:47,187 --> 00:28:49,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, and it just opens up that criticism that the

536
00:28:49,187 --> 00:28:50,987
Speaker 11: Warriors get. Don't never get the rubb of the green.

537
00:28:51,067 --> 00:28:54,267
Speaker 11: You know that a consistency would be great. And as

538
00:28:54,267 --> 00:28:56,747
Speaker 11: far as Weeb's comment about kicking not winning and losing

539
00:28:56,787 --> 00:29:00,347
Speaker 11: the game, I realized he was trying to keep the

540
00:29:00,347 --> 00:29:02,587
Speaker 11: spirits up of all the players involved, especially the young

541
00:29:02,627 --> 00:29:05,987
Speaker 11: fellow that missed the kicks. But men kicking does win

542
00:29:06,067 --> 00:29:07,987
Speaker 11: and lose games as as simple as that, in fact

543
00:29:08,067 --> 00:29:10,147
Speaker 11: remains not at the scoreboard. If he got has kicks,

544
00:29:10,187 --> 00:29:11,907
Speaker 11: at least one of them, who would have been into

545
00:29:11,947 --> 00:29:13,867
Speaker 11: golden point and we were on the ascendant season, we

546
00:29:13,907 --> 00:29:14,867
Speaker 11: could well have won the game.

547
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Speaker 4: Good points for I made Henry, yep, no good points

548
00:29:18,147 --> 00:29:20,507
Speaker 4: for I made mate, keep the faith. I know you will,

549
00:29:21,027 --> 00:29:23,427
Speaker 4: and let's see. Let's see if Roger turns up in

550
00:29:23,467 --> 00:29:26,027
Speaker 4: the one jersey for the next little while. I hope

551
00:29:26,027 --> 00:29:28,027
Speaker 4: he does. And like I say, it's okay to walk

552
00:29:28,067 --> 00:29:31,187
Speaker 4: back selection decisions and comments that you make earlier in

553
00:29:31,227 --> 00:29:33,827
Speaker 4: the season when a landscape's different. It's okay for Andrew

554
00:29:33,827 --> 00:29:35,707
Speaker 4: Webster this week if he wants to to come out

555
00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:36,827
Speaker 4: and say, you know what, Yeah, I'm going to play

556
00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:40,107
Speaker 4: Roger at fall back twenty one to one back after

557
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Speaker 4: this the.

558
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559
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560
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Speaker 4: Be eighteen to one back to the lines in a minute.

561
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Speaker 4: Texts for I cannot recall a season where we've had

562
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:56,627
Speaker 4: injuries in nearly every game, and despite what people say,

563
00:29:56,667 --> 00:29:59,387
Speaker 4: the Warriors have been hammered more than any other team.

564
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Speaker 4: We're not out, but the rest of the season is

565
00:30:02,027 --> 00:30:04,347
Speaker 4: a challenge, of course, but I feel the comeback shows

566
00:30:04,587 --> 00:30:07,307
Speaker 4: there is more fire under Webby. Twenty twenty four is

567
00:30:07,307 --> 00:30:09,947
Speaker 4: a hallow, tight season and yes those kicks hurt us,

568
00:30:09,947 --> 00:30:12,467
Speaker 4: but I keep the faith. Love it, love it.

569
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Speaker 14: Hello, Mark, Hey Bony. I'm having a bit of a

570
00:30:17,147 --> 00:30:19,387
Speaker 14: Panica tech at the moment. I'm reading a lot of

571
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Speaker 14: stuff that a Pacifica.

572
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Speaker 4: I think you'll find, Mark, that that is almost certain

573
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Speaker 4: to happen. Yeah, yeah, I had that on my list

574
00:30:30,387 --> 00:30:33,307
Speaker 4: of things to talk about today. We may get to

575
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Speaker 4: it after one when we when we talk about a rugby,

576
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Speaker 4: I think you'll find he'll go. I think, I think

577
00:30:37,507 --> 00:30:38,827
Speaker 4: that's what I'm hearing.

578
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Speaker 14: I'll have to buy it by a calm band and

579
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Speaker 14: wear it for.

580
00:30:41,907 --> 00:30:42,427
Speaker 8: A year or so.

581
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Speaker 4: Don't you think, though, Don't you think though that? I mean,

582
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Speaker 4: I thought about this yesterday. I felt the same way

583
00:30:48,467 --> 00:30:49,947
Speaker 4: as you when I first heard this news. I know

584
00:30:49,987 --> 00:30:52,507
Speaker 4: you want talk about the Warriors, but I mean it'll

585
00:30:52,507 --> 00:30:55,827
Speaker 4: strengthen ONEA Pacifica without question, give them relevance and validity.

586
00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:57,867
Speaker 4: And you think about the season we've just had as

587
00:30:57,947 --> 00:31:00,987
Speaker 4: Hurricanes fans. No Artie, he was in Japan. We've got

588
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:02,907
Speaker 4: a pretty decent group of loose forwards there, Mark, I

589
00:31:02,907 --> 00:31:03,707
Speaker 4: think we'll be okay.

590
00:31:04,107 --> 00:31:08,427
Speaker 14: Oh no, I mean just the hiving a laugh. I

591
00:31:08,427 --> 00:31:11,587
Speaker 14: think you know he's such a proud, proud sort of

592
00:31:11,627 --> 00:31:14,027
Speaker 14: Pacific Islander. I think he almost wants to bolster the

593
00:31:14,267 --> 00:31:16,187
Speaker 14: more out of Pacifica because I mean at the moment

594
00:31:16,187 --> 00:31:18,987
Speaker 14: they're almost facing extinction the way they're playing. You know,

595
00:31:19,107 --> 00:31:21,827
Speaker 14: they just had some terrible They really haven't been like

596
00:31:21,907 --> 00:31:25,427
Speaker 14: defeating Overhead. They really as phone their initiation and super

597
00:31:25,507 --> 00:31:27,547
Speaker 14: rugby coz And I think maybe he loved does and

598
00:31:27,627 --> 00:31:32,107
Speaker 14: goes well, I could be the catalyst well to the

599
00:31:32,227 --> 00:31:33,187
Speaker 14: n playing as well.

600
00:31:33,267 --> 00:31:36,027
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, well yeah no, he's still there, and I

601
00:31:36,027 --> 00:31:37,867
Speaker 4: think that's another big part of it. That's another big

602
00:31:37,867 --> 00:31:39,147
Speaker 4: part of it Mark. You know, the chance to play

603
00:31:39,147 --> 00:31:41,427
Speaker 4: alongside his brother, those two have, they've shared a lot

604
00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:44,907
Speaker 4: in their rugby journeys. Look, don't get me wrong, and

605
00:31:45,427 --> 00:31:47,947
Speaker 4: any any fan of any team would want an Ardie

606
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:50,547
Speaker 4: in their team, but it's you know, unless he's unless

607
00:31:50,547 --> 00:31:51,707
Speaker 4: she's like down the blows.

608
00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:58,747
Speaker 14: Well he might bring a lot of supporters there. Yeah,

609
00:31:58,867 --> 00:32:01,067
Speaker 14: don't interest thing they had a lot of. It didn't

610
00:32:01,067 --> 00:32:02,707
Speaker 14: seem like that. Like you look at the Tongue and

611
00:32:02,787 --> 00:32:05,987
Speaker 14: Rugby League and when they when they play all the

612
00:32:06,067 --> 00:32:08,667
Speaker 14: south at seems to come out to support. But I

613
00:32:08,707 --> 00:32:12,347
Speaker 14: don't feel like one I had the support of like

614
00:32:12,547 --> 00:32:15,707
Speaker 14: pig Intro. Now, obviously pg Intro was it was a

615
00:32:15,787 --> 00:32:18,027
Speaker 14: home team and I guess a lot of fans and

616
00:32:18,107 --> 00:32:22,627
Speaker 14: Auton probably already had their team sorted out. Worris game

617
00:32:22,707 --> 00:32:24,107
Speaker 14: last night. It was it was a bit of a

618
00:32:24,147 --> 00:32:28,387
Speaker 14: come down from State of right. Yeah, I don't think

619
00:32:28,387 --> 00:32:30,507
Speaker 14: either of those two teams are going to be contingents

620
00:32:30,547 --> 00:32:32,947
Speaker 14: for the title of this you know, unfortunately, and you

621
00:32:32,987 --> 00:32:35,547
Speaker 14: know people, you know, everyone likes to put the boot

622
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:38,507
Speaker 14: into the waves, but man, the injury told them maybe

623
00:32:38,507 --> 00:32:40,947
Speaker 14: that's something they need to look at, what the amount

624
00:32:40,987 --> 00:32:42,587
Speaker 14: of injuries that have had this year and the way

625
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:45,827
Speaker 14: they're training. But man, you can't expect the team to

626
00:32:47,147 --> 00:32:50,267
Speaker 14: even like the on and game injuries are having at

627
00:32:50,307 --> 00:32:52,467
Speaker 14: the moment. I mean, they lost the back three that

628
00:32:52,747 --> 00:32:54,827
Speaker 14: you know the week before last, and last night they

629
00:32:54,867 --> 00:32:57,387
Speaker 14: were down fifteen, know what I mean. It seems like

630
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Speaker 14: even the players on the field, like I think the

631
00:32:59,547 --> 00:33:01,667
Speaker 14: two of us, a chick and the thing like Martin

632
00:33:01,747 --> 00:33:04,507
Speaker 14: were injured last night. So it's just the team just

633
00:33:04,547 --> 00:33:08,067
Speaker 14: devastated by injuries. Up for a parallels, you look to

634
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Speaker 14: the Broncos have also been I'd stayed, but they've also

635
00:33:12,227 --> 00:33:15,747
Speaker 14: been devastated by injuries. So you know, they look like

636
00:33:15,987 --> 00:33:18,667
Speaker 14: a top at least the top fourteen, you know from

637
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Speaker 14: last year, and I mean that that's struggling. They made

638
00:33:21,227 --> 00:33:22,427
Speaker 14: the top eight as well, haven't they.

639
00:33:22,867 --> 00:33:25,947
Speaker 4: Yeah, now the grand finalist last year, of course, the Broncos.

640
00:33:25,947 --> 00:33:27,827
Speaker 4: And you're right, and it just shows that. It just

641
00:33:27,827 --> 00:33:30,387
Speaker 4: shows you the Broncos are there down in thirteenth, I

642
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Speaker 4: mean one game fewer than the Warriors, but yeah, they're

643
00:33:33,427 --> 00:33:35,347
Speaker 4: also your right struggling mark and it just shows the

644
00:33:35,427 --> 00:33:39,307
Speaker 4: NRL is such a difficult competition to be consistently good,

645
00:33:39,347 --> 00:33:43,707
Speaker 4: and that's why you get, you know, increased admiration for

646
00:33:43,747 --> 00:33:45,587
Speaker 4: the likes of the Panthers and the Storm who year

647
00:33:45,667 --> 00:33:48,867
Speaker 4: after year managed to do it. Hey, thanks for holding Morris.

648
00:33:49,907 --> 00:33:51,987
Speaker 15: You no worries, mate, Hey you look, I look at

649
00:33:51,987 --> 00:33:53,747
Speaker 15: the Warriors and you know, I think the difference between

650
00:33:53,747 --> 00:33:55,587
Speaker 15: this year and last year and other years is that

651
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,747
Speaker 15: it's about mental toughness. And I think that NRL you've

652
00:33:59,747 --> 00:34:02,147
Speaker 15: got to be really restally tough. In year they've had

653
00:34:02,147 --> 00:34:04,627
Speaker 15: a few injuries, but I think that that mentally they

654
00:34:05,747 --> 00:34:07,467
Speaker 15: you know, that would slope and it's very hard to

655
00:34:07,507 --> 00:34:07,947
Speaker 15: come back.

656
00:34:08,467 --> 00:34:09,987
Speaker 8: And I used an example many years ago.

657
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Speaker 15: It's coach Club Rubby in Auckland in a club cycled

658
00:34:12,347 --> 00:34:14,987
Speaker 15: the Papa PA and we got promoted to the second division.

659
00:34:15,027 --> 00:34:16,467
Speaker 15: But the last game and the second division we got

660
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:19,387
Speaker 15: beaten by the last place team. The following week we

661
00:34:19,387 --> 00:34:22,187
Speaker 15: were playing Odah who had I think six super players,

662
00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:24,747
Speaker 15: Kevin me Alam who Brad Meeka, they're all there, and

663
00:34:24,787 --> 00:34:28,347
Speaker 15: we lost by two. Mentally the week before we couldn't

664
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Speaker 15: get prepared. The following week they were. The boys were

665
00:34:31,947 --> 00:34:34,747
Speaker 15: so excited we had that opportunity to play against that level.

666
00:34:34,987 --> 00:34:36,987
Speaker 15: They were so into it. And if we look at

667
00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,987
Speaker 15: the Warriors, it's a lot of the year games and

668
00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:42,147
Speaker 15: it's the better teams. They play superbly well. Penrith Panthers

669
00:34:42,187 --> 00:34:44,147
Speaker 15: is a good example, and when they get to the

670
00:34:44,187 --> 00:34:46,667
Speaker 15: bottom end of the competition they don't mentally focus enough

671
00:34:47,187 --> 00:34:49,587
Speaker 15: and I think it's it's not being raced. But it's

672
00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:55,347
Speaker 15: a Polynesian thing in obviously over all Tommins and it

673
00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:57,267
Speaker 15: was very hard to motivate the boys and get them

674
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Speaker 15: in the right spot week in week out for the

675
00:34:59,827 --> 00:35:01,747
Speaker 15: rigords of Club Rubby and it's only Club Ruby, but

676
00:35:02,107 --> 00:35:04,747
Speaker 15: it's the same thing as an athlete and I think

677
00:35:04,787 --> 00:35:07,267
Speaker 15: that's where the Warriores have a lot of issues around,

678
00:35:07,387 --> 00:35:09,787
Speaker 15: you know, just just getting them in that right frame

679
00:35:09,827 --> 00:35:12,747
Speaker 15: of mind, because you think, is what said, twenty odd games,

680
00:35:12,747 --> 00:35:16,307
Speaker 15: twenty six games in the NRL, week in, week out,

681
00:35:16,307 --> 00:35:18,947
Speaker 15: you've got to lift yourself every week. And hence the

682
00:35:18,987 --> 00:35:22,587
Speaker 15: Blues did it on Wednesday, suburbly queens. And I didn't

683
00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:24,867
Speaker 15: think they wren in the game. They're mentally win in

684
00:35:24,867 --> 00:35:26,827
Speaker 15: the game. Physically they win in the game, but all

685
00:35:26,867 --> 00:35:29,907
Speaker 15: those guys who physically probably equals when we look across

686
00:35:29,907 --> 00:35:31,747
Speaker 15: the teams, but well.

687
00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:34,667
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think that's look and that's it, Morris.

688
00:35:34,707 --> 00:35:38,467
Speaker 4: In the in the NRL, there's you know, player for play. Yes,

689
00:35:38,507 --> 00:35:41,067
Speaker 4: there are strong there are squads that are stronger than others, absolutely,

690
00:35:41,707 --> 00:35:44,227
Speaker 4: but man for man, across a lot of those squads,

691
00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:47,107
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of difference. So it has to

692
00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:51,187
Speaker 4: be at least partly mental. It has to be. And

693
00:35:51,267 --> 00:35:55,667
Speaker 4: you know, look, having never been in the position of

694
00:35:55,667 --> 00:35:57,787
Speaker 4: an elite sports person, I can't say this for a fact,

695
00:35:57,787 --> 00:35:59,827
Speaker 4: but I'm sure that there is a heck of a

696
00:35:59,867 --> 00:36:02,387
Speaker 4: lot of difference going on when you're playing, you know,

697
00:36:03,067 --> 00:36:06,587
Speaker 4: when when you're winning week after week after week. That

698
00:36:06,707 --> 00:36:09,227
Speaker 4: confidence has to grow so that when you are behind,

699
00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:11,507
Speaker 4: you still think to yourself, right, we can get out

700
00:36:11,507 --> 00:36:15,667
Speaker 4: of this because we have been. Similarly, if you're behind

701
00:36:16,467 --> 00:36:23,387
Speaker 4: and your recent track record is of losses or substandard results,

702
00:36:23,787 --> 00:36:27,067
Speaker 4: that has to creep in. It's you know, a football

703
00:36:27,067 --> 00:36:29,427
Speaker 4: team that goes one nil down, if they're on a

704
00:36:29,467 --> 00:36:32,027
Speaker 4: winning streak, they think we can pull that back. A

705
00:36:32,067 --> 00:36:33,707
Speaker 4: team that's lost three games in a row that goes

706
00:36:33,707 --> 00:36:36,227
Speaker 4: one nil down. You know, you can see the body language,

707
00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:38,747
Speaker 4: the shoulders slump. We're not going to be able to

708
00:36:38,747 --> 00:36:41,747
Speaker 4: get back into this. It has to be at least

709
00:36:41,787 --> 00:36:45,467
Speaker 4: partially mental, of course it does. Otherwise, how can you

710
00:36:45,547 --> 00:36:49,387
Speaker 4: explain the same group of players by and large with

711
00:36:49,467 --> 00:36:54,827
Speaker 4: a couple of additions from last year in an almost

712
00:36:55,547 --> 00:37:01,707
Speaker 4: diametrically opposite position. Ten to one News talks beat Back after.

713
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Speaker 1: This the Scoon from the track Fields and the course

714
00:37:05,907 --> 00:37:12,387
Speaker 1: on your home of sort Weekend Sport with Jason Vine.

715
00:37:11,387 --> 00:37:12,947
Speaker 4: Just on seven and a half to one text here,

716
00:37:12,987 --> 00:37:15,107
Speaker 4: don't forget it took Cronulla fifty years to win the

717
00:37:15,147 --> 00:37:18,667
Speaker 4: camp Wow, so we have to wait till two thousand

718
00:37:18,707 --> 00:37:19,707
Speaker 4: and forty five.

719
00:37:21,627 --> 00:37:24,747
Speaker 8: You mate, Listen for the calls to say nothing's changed

720
00:37:24,787 --> 00:37:27,227
Speaker 8: over twenty nine years here. The results have been up

721
00:37:27,267 --> 00:37:29,987
Speaker 8: and down, but I think a lot of them are forgetting.

722
00:37:30,347 --> 00:37:34,307
Speaker 8: It's had a number of owners for Tye Louis Loans

723
00:37:34,347 --> 00:37:38,627
Speaker 8: Mate boil Eric Watson, and to say that some of

724
00:37:38,627 --> 00:37:44,627
Speaker 8: those parties were dubious or shady it would be an understatement.

725
00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:47,307
Speaker 8: But getting back to on the field, the current ownership

726
00:37:47,347 --> 00:37:50,987
Speaker 8: of the Alltech family, the Alltex fermut aimed by a

727
00:37:51,107 --> 00:37:54,987
Speaker 8: family that certainly do know how to succeed Robertson. The

728
00:37:55,027 --> 00:37:57,787
Speaker 8: owners stumped up money to make sure that they've got

729
00:37:57,787 --> 00:38:00,827
Speaker 8: the junior teams in there now. So for the first

730
00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:03,307
Speaker 8: time in a long time, they've got a nursery of

731
00:38:03,387 --> 00:38:07,747
Speaker 8: players coming through. So well, I think fans are going

732
00:38:07,747 --> 00:38:09,587
Speaker 8: to do a show. And I'm a South Sydney fan,

733
00:38:09,627 --> 00:38:13,187
Speaker 8: I know all about patients were a bit more patience.

734
00:38:13,507 --> 00:38:17,147
Speaker 8: They've you know, they've had a shocking run of injuries

735
00:38:17,147 --> 00:38:21,027
Speaker 8: this year and the players that have stepped up to

736
00:38:21,147 --> 00:38:24,267
Speaker 8: Ari Martin and now the be the Harris, they've gone

737
00:38:24,267 --> 00:38:31,267
Speaker 8: all right lately. But it's the case of well everyone

738
00:38:31,307 --> 00:38:34,547
Speaker 8: would call said earlier, what about the Broncos. You know,

739
00:38:35,267 --> 00:38:37,387
Speaker 8: if they chose a bit more patience. Last year they

740
00:38:37,387 --> 00:38:39,547
Speaker 8: would have won the Grand Bottle instead of trying to

741
00:38:39,587 --> 00:38:42,947
Speaker 8: put a cricket score on. This year, well, they're looking

742
00:38:43,107 --> 00:38:49,107
Speaker 8: very average. I think given enough time, where will bear fruit?

743
00:38:49,547 --> 00:38:52,667
Speaker 8: The car lane is certainly not that shy sick in

744
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:55,427
Speaker 8: his hand in his pocket and getting things going. And

745
00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:57,427
Speaker 8: like I said, if you know anything about the family,

746
00:38:57,467 --> 00:39:00,067
Speaker 8: they certainly they had to run a successful business. And

747
00:39:00,147 --> 00:39:02,707
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, that's what professional sport is.

748
00:39:03,907 --> 00:39:07,627
Speaker 8: Having said, understanding all that, you know that kuld Of

749
00:39:07,667 --> 00:39:11,547
Speaker 8: tied up the game, You've just you've really got to

750
00:39:11,547 --> 00:39:14,227
Speaker 8: get those and you've got to have a kicker. I mean,

751
00:39:14,307 --> 00:39:17,627
Speaker 8: I'm sure he didn't miss them on purpose, but you know,

752
00:39:17,707 --> 00:39:20,587
Speaker 8: the further you go up towards the point, the end

753
00:39:20,627 --> 00:39:22,867
Speaker 8: of the season and the very end of it, the

754
00:39:22,947 --> 00:39:26,667
Speaker 8: air and errors from the margin for error gets less

755
00:39:26,787 --> 00:39:31,747
Speaker 8: and less and less. So they'll have a boy from

756
00:39:31,787 --> 00:39:34,627
Speaker 8: Penris over there next year and hopefully met Garth as

757
00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:37,827
Speaker 8: you'd call him messy. After long, this monster you can

758
00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:41,427
Speaker 8: finally get on the field again, but you have to

759
00:39:41,427 --> 00:39:43,867
Speaker 8: think the luck will turn eventually. You're just gonna have

760
00:39:43,867 --> 00:39:45,867
Speaker 8: tow a bit more patience.

761
00:39:46,187 --> 00:39:48,987
Speaker 4: Good man, long, thanks mate. Yeah, look on the kicking,

762
00:39:49,147 --> 00:39:51,307
Speaker 4: I mean Adam Pompey was taking the kicks until he

763
00:39:51,387 --> 00:39:54,667
Speaker 4: had to go off and he's been good. From memory,

764
00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:58,107
Speaker 4: I can't remember Adam Pompey missing too many kicks when

765
00:39:58,107 --> 00:40:01,107
Speaker 4: he's taken over from from Sean Johnson on the kicking

766
00:40:01,187 --> 00:40:05,507
Speaker 4: tee Chanelle Harris Tavita hasn't had to kick a heck

767
00:40:05,547 --> 00:40:09,187
Speaker 4: of a lot this season. In fact, has he kicked

768
00:40:09,187 --> 00:40:13,787
Speaker 4: it all? Just trying to remember, I think he has.

769
00:40:14,387 --> 00:40:19,347
Speaker 4: I seem to remember he has done some kicking. But yeah,

770
00:40:19,387 --> 00:40:22,747
Speaker 4: Adam Pompey like and a left footed kicker. Those two

771
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:26,387
Speaker 4: out wide are tough, but that one in front, really

772
00:40:28,147 --> 00:40:31,427
Speaker 4: he looked like he just looked like he wasn't confident right.

773
00:40:31,987 --> 00:40:36,507
Speaker 4: Pressure does funny things to people. Scotty makes that point.

774
00:40:36,907 --> 00:40:38,427
Speaker 4: He looked like a guy who was going to miss

775
00:40:38,587 --> 00:40:42,787
Speaker 4: and hoped he'd get it. It's so upsetting. We're unlikely

776
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:47,627
Speaker 4: to make the eight from Joe Pinty. Big disappointment last night. Unfortunately,

777
00:40:47,627 --> 00:40:49,187
Speaker 4: the team's got a long way to go. Andrew Webster

778
00:40:49,227 --> 00:40:51,107
Speaker 4: needs to salvage something from the season, so might as

779
00:40:51,107 --> 00:40:52,907
Speaker 4: well put some of the young guys in now. Give

780
00:40:52,947 --> 00:40:55,547
Speaker 4: them some first great experience. It's thirty years next season,

781
00:40:55,547 --> 00:40:58,067
Speaker 4: but just remember it took Ronulla forty nine years to

782
00:40:58,067 --> 00:41:00,547
Speaker 4: get there first one. I just hope Warriors fans don't

783
00:41:00,547 --> 00:41:02,227
Speaker 4: have to wait that long. Yeah, good point, you make,

784
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,467
Speaker 4: good point you make. I think we'll lock the Warrior's

785
00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:07,027
Speaker 4: chat on the head and there, head there. It's been

786
00:41:07,067 --> 00:41:10,227
Speaker 4: a good hour of chat. We've tried to unpick it.

787
00:41:10,907 --> 00:41:13,787
Speaker 4: Let's hope for brighter things ahead. After one o'clock we'll

788
00:41:13,827 --> 00:41:15,587
Speaker 4: start focusing in on the All Blacks Fiji.

789
00:41:17,027 --> 00:41:19,947
Speaker 2: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

790
00:41:20,027 --> 00:41:21,707
Speaker 2: on and after fields.

791
00:41:22,227 --> 00:41:25,587
Speaker 3: It's all on reeg and Ford with Jason Vane on

792
00:41:25,707 --> 00:41:28,747
Speaker 3: your home of sport US Talk.

793
00:41:30,107 --> 00:41:35,187
Speaker 4: One o seven. Welcoming two thirty this afternoon. All Blacks Fiji,

794
00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:39,427
Speaker 4: San Diego. We've got the commentary for you. Our lead

795
00:41:39,587 --> 00:41:42,587
Speaker 4: commentator and rug Beata to Elliot smith Worth fifty five

796
00:41:42,707 --> 00:41:46,547
Speaker 4: Test sixty nine game All Black Center Frank Bunce alongside

797
00:41:46,867 --> 00:41:49,547
Speaker 4: with expert analysis, going to get you to San Diego

798
00:41:49,587 --> 00:41:52,667
Speaker 4: this hour. Bonnie Jansen from the New Zealand Herald is

799
00:41:52,707 --> 00:41:56,107
Speaker 4: there at snap Dragon Stadium. She'll set the scene for US.

800
00:41:56,587 --> 00:42:00,947
Speaker 4: Glenn Jackson very shortly Fiji and draw a head coach

801
00:42:00,987 --> 00:42:04,147
Speaker 4: freshly appointed. We'll get you to the Open Championship as well.

802
00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:06,467
Speaker 4: We didn't quite fit it in before one o'clock, but

803
00:42:06,547 --> 00:42:09,587
Speaker 4: want to wrap round two with Daniel Hillyer and Ryan

804
00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:12,787
Speaker 4: Fox making the Cup and also Adam Pickock from across

805
00:42:12,827 --> 00:42:18,547
Speaker 4: the Tasman in its regular slot. Your cause and correspondence

806
00:42:18,587 --> 00:42:20,707
Speaker 4: continue to be welcome on the show. AH eight hundred

807
00:42:20,707 --> 00:42:23,067
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty nineteen ninety two if you would

808
00:42:23,107 --> 00:42:25,987
Speaker 4: like to send us a text. All Blacks Fiji, San Diego,

809
00:42:26,027 --> 00:42:28,787
Speaker 4: two thirty five. While the All Blacks are firm favorites,

810
00:42:28,827 --> 00:42:32,947
Speaker 4: Fiji are no longer a rugby mino those passionate fans.

811
00:42:32,987 --> 00:42:36,867
Speaker 4: But Australia one more chance.

812
00:42:37,387 --> 00:42:39,587
Speaker 6: The scrum disintegrates all over the place.

813
00:42:39,667 --> 00:42:44,787
Speaker 4: Penal GfG, we've got a lover for a pig strum.

814
00:42:46,187 --> 00:42:48,947
Speaker 6: Look good at means to this Fisen players.

815
00:42:49,147 --> 00:42:50,187
Speaker 4: It's the first.

816
00:42:49,947 --> 00:42:53,267
Speaker 9: Time since nineteen fifty four they've beaten Australia.

817
00:42:53,867 --> 00:42:56,147
Speaker 4: What a time, what a past to do it now?

818
00:42:56,187 --> 00:42:58,747
Speaker 4: That's Fiji beating Australia at Rugby World Cup last year,

819
00:42:58,747 --> 00:43:01,507
Speaker 4: getting into the quarterfinals where they lost to England. By

820
00:43:01,707 --> 00:43:05,507
Speaker 4: eight points from memory having beaten England at Twickenham pre tournament,

821
00:43:05,627 --> 00:43:09,347
Speaker 4: so he Fiji making big strides in the fifteen man game.

822
00:43:09,627 --> 00:43:12,507
Speaker 4: To help preview this afternoon's test, It's a great pleasure

823
00:43:12,547 --> 00:43:16,107
Speaker 4: to welcome into a weekend sport. Former Chiefs and Saracen's

824
00:43:16,147 --> 00:43:21,707
Speaker 4: first five former leading international referee, including controlling thirty two

825
00:43:21,827 --> 00:43:25,867
Speaker 4: Test matches, Former assistant coach of Fiji, including at the

826
00:43:25,867 --> 00:43:29,227
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three Rugby World Cup, and having served as

827
00:43:29,387 --> 00:43:33,347
Speaker 4: assistant coach the newly appointed head coach of the Fiji

828
00:43:33,387 --> 00:43:36,787
Speaker 4: and Drewer Super Rugby side, Glenn Jackson. Of course, what

829
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:39,787
Speaker 4: a CV you're building, Glenn. Thanks for joining us, mate,

830
00:43:39,827 --> 00:43:40,187
Speaker 4: How are you?

831
00:43:40,867 --> 00:43:41,067
Speaker 3: Yeah?

832
00:43:41,147 --> 00:43:41,347
Speaker 14: Good?

833
00:43:41,347 --> 00:43:44,187
Speaker 7: Thanks for this introduction. I can understand now while most

834
00:43:44,227 --> 00:43:45,987
Speaker 7: my hair is falling out, it's been pretty long in

835
00:43:46,027 --> 00:43:48,387
Speaker 7: the game, but I still would great to be involved.

836
00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:51,907
Speaker 4: Alright, let's look straight away at this game this afternoon.

837
00:43:51,947 --> 00:43:55,307
Speaker 4: How much of a threat do you perceive Fiji to

838
00:43:55,347 --> 00:43:57,307
Speaker 4: be to the All Blacks in San Diego today?

839
00:43:58,627 --> 00:43:58,787
Speaker 5: Oh?

840
00:43:58,867 --> 00:44:01,267
Speaker 7: Look at the pretty settled side really from the World

841
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:04,907
Speaker 7: Cup that we had last year. It's a pretty well

842
00:44:04,947 --> 00:44:07,187
Speaker 7: settled side with a couple of new guys from the

843
00:44:07,267 --> 00:44:09,747
Speaker 7: drawer that are in there. So look, they've got some

844
00:44:09,787 --> 00:44:12,987
Speaker 7: really experienced overseas players. I think the back rows is

845
00:44:13,027 --> 00:44:17,827
Speaker 7: pretty pretty special with Bill Matta and Lakeema from Poe,

846
00:44:17,907 --> 00:44:20,667
Speaker 7: so that the back row is really good. Young boy

847
00:44:20,667 --> 00:44:23,027
Speaker 7: that had actually missed out on the World Cup as

848
00:44:23,147 --> 00:44:25,347
Speaker 7: Kiddy Salawa who plays the drawer, he definitely would have

849
00:44:25,387 --> 00:44:28,387
Speaker 7: been there, but he fortunately got an injury. So there's

850
00:44:28,387 --> 00:44:32,187
Speaker 7: certainly some good experience in the team. Obviously, playing the

851
00:44:32,187 --> 00:44:34,547
Speaker 7: All Blacks is a different, different approach for any team,

852
00:44:34,627 --> 00:44:37,747
Speaker 7: especially Fiji in a little island like we are, so no,

853
00:44:37,907 --> 00:44:40,147
Speaker 7: but you know, I like what Mixed done in terms

854
00:44:40,187 --> 00:44:41,787
Speaker 7: of the selection and it should be the game.

855
00:44:42,267 --> 00:44:44,347
Speaker 4: Do you think there's the belief in the team now

856
00:44:44,387 --> 00:44:47,307
Speaker 4: that they can topple the All Blacks? They beat England

857
00:44:47,387 --> 00:44:49,787
Speaker 4: at Twickenham, beat Australier at the World Cup last year.

858
00:44:49,947 --> 00:44:51,947
Speaker 4: Do you think that belief is there that they could

859
00:44:51,947 --> 00:44:53,067
Speaker 4: topple the All Blacks.

860
00:44:54,867 --> 00:44:57,947
Speaker 7: I definitely think so. I think if you look back

861
00:44:57,947 --> 00:45:00,107
Speaker 7: on history, I think the Fiji always looked up to

862
00:45:00,147 --> 00:45:02,187
Speaker 7: the All Blecks. I mean, you know the sprinting of

863
00:45:02,307 --> 00:45:04,147
Speaker 7: or not sprinting a lot of Fijians that have played

864
00:45:04,187 --> 00:45:06,987
Speaker 7: for the All Blecks. It's probably you come from an

865
00:45:07,027 --> 00:45:08,827
Speaker 7: island nine hundred thousand. They looked up to the All

866
00:45:08,827 --> 00:45:12,307
Speaker 7: Blacks as heroes and and sort of the the gurus

867
00:45:12,307 --> 00:45:14,347
Speaker 7: of rugby. But I think with Super Rugby now and

868
00:45:15,467 --> 00:45:17,227
Speaker 7: you know, we've we've been lucky enough to win a

869
00:45:17,227 --> 00:45:21,107
Speaker 7: couple of games in Fiji games on teams they like

870
00:45:21,147 --> 00:45:23,867
Speaker 7: you said, did pretty well against the World Cup with

871
00:45:24,267 --> 00:45:28,347
Speaker 7: Ben in England and then Australia. So certainly that area

872
00:45:28,387 --> 00:45:31,107
Speaker 7: of been able to win big matches has sort of

873
00:45:31,147 --> 00:45:33,027
Speaker 7: gone away a little bit. And you've got Thoyse like

874
00:45:33,067 --> 00:45:37,667
Speaker 7: Semi Ridargra and Weiss our captain there, who's who's done there.

875
00:45:37,707 --> 00:45:40,747
Speaker 7: They played a lot of rugby, won big cups in France,

876
00:45:40,787 --> 00:45:44,507
Speaker 7: so certainly well experienced. I think at the age age

877
00:45:44,547 --> 00:45:48,147
Speaker 7: bracket of the team's really good. Young Asai from from

878
00:45:48,187 --> 00:45:51,107
Speaker 7: Mars playing at teens's first proper game at twenty, so

879
00:45:51,547 --> 00:45:53,907
Speaker 7: the experience around him it should be you know, they're

880
00:45:53,907 --> 00:45:56,027
Speaker 7: certainly the belief I believe we have the.

881
00:45:56,027 --> 00:45:59,227
Speaker 4: Big improvements come Glenn and f Jane rugby in the

882
00:45:59,267 --> 00:46:01,587
Speaker 4: last three or four years in terms of the way

883
00:46:01,347 --> 00:46:02,707
Speaker 4: they play the game.

884
00:46:04,627 --> 00:46:07,987
Speaker 7: Oh, discipline, Diiline was number one for us going into

885
00:46:08,027 --> 00:46:09,827
Speaker 7: the World Cup. I think it was something that we

886
00:46:09,907 --> 00:46:14,467
Speaker 7: had to really change which became which was fitness. I

887
00:46:14,467 --> 00:46:19,307
Speaker 7: think the twenty David sevest As a trainer with Fiji

888
00:46:19,347 --> 00:46:22,587
Speaker 7: who's still with him that we had in the World Cup.

889
00:46:22,627 --> 00:46:25,547
Speaker 7: He'd been to five World Cups, I think, mostly with England,

890
00:46:25,827 --> 00:46:28,667
Speaker 7: so the way he trained and got our boys to

891
00:46:28,707 --> 00:46:34,307
Speaker 7: be fit is carried on. So also obviously playing continuous

892
00:46:34,347 --> 00:46:37,907
Speaker 7: rugby with the drawer and playing eighty minutes is the

893
00:46:37,907 --> 00:46:40,747
Speaker 7: biggest one because even in France and probably England, a

894
00:46:40,787 --> 00:46:43,907
Speaker 7: lot of those boys were either impact players or didn't

895
00:46:43,907 --> 00:46:45,747
Speaker 7: play for eighty minutes and that was something that we

896
00:46:46,027 --> 00:46:48,707
Speaker 7: really looked at it at the World Cup. So the

897
00:46:48,867 --> 00:46:51,907
Speaker 7: change around of Fiji playing well for sixty and then

898
00:46:51,947 --> 00:46:53,987
Speaker 7: falling off the last twe years has been a real

899
00:46:54,027 --> 00:46:54,947
Speaker 7: big change around.

900
00:46:55,307 --> 00:46:57,867
Speaker 4: Yeah, alluded to it there, but how crucial to the

901
00:46:57,867 --> 00:47:01,867
Speaker 4: success of the Fijian national side have and will continue

902
00:47:01,867 --> 00:47:04,147
Speaker 4: to be the Fiji and drawer and super rugby.

903
00:47:05,547 --> 00:47:09,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I think it's something that obviously we tried

904
00:47:09,787 --> 00:47:11,947
Speaker 7: for a long long time to get team in Super

905
00:47:11,987 --> 00:47:14,787
Speaker 7: aby with Fiji had been and now you've got the

906
00:47:14,827 --> 00:47:19,467
Speaker 7: ability of players earning pretty good money being able to

907
00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:22,267
Speaker 7: stay home. Even next year. We're getting a few players

908
00:47:22,307 --> 00:47:25,027
Speaker 7: back from France and from around the place, so it's

909
00:47:25,147 --> 00:47:30,267
Speaker 7: certainly a massive part of Fiji and also in the

910
00:47:30,587 --> 00:47:33,147
Speaker 7: public right and behind the rugby and there was never

911
00:47:33,187 --> 00:47:38,187
Speaker 7: an issue around support. But I think seeing proper, super

912
00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,387
Speaker 7: abby games played in the country is really got every

913
00:47:40,467 --> 00:47:43,747
Speaker 7: run in behind the national team as well. So yeah,

914
00:47:43,787 --> 00:47:46,747
Speaker 7: it's certainly been massive, you know, I don't think we'll

915
00:47:47,187 --> 00:47:50,227
Speaker 7: truly see the real effects probably until sort of two

916
00:47:50,307 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 7: or three more years. On top of that, but when

917
00:47:53,267 --> 00:47:56,227
Speaker 7: you've got a twenty year old team we were lucky

918
00:47:56,307 --> 00:47:59,107
Speaker 7: enough to get from New Zealand now playing for Fiji,

919
00:47:59,707 --> 00:48:01,747
Speaker 7: you know that that's the big change. We're not only

920
00:48:01,787 --> 00:48:04,707
Speaker 7: just getting great Fijian players, we're also getting Fijian players

921
00:48:04,707 --> 00:48:07,707
Speaker 7: that played overseason and their trade and New Zealand schools

922
00:48:07,707 --> 00:48:08,907
Speaker 7: in Australian schools.

923
00:48:09,027 --> 00:48:10,547
Speaker 4: I want to come back to the drawer in the moment.

924
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:14,067
Speaker 4: But in terms of the Fiji national sides improvement in

925
00:48:14,147 --> 00:48:17,307
Speaker 4: recent times, Ken, can you talk a bit about Vern

926
00:48:17,387 --> 00:48:20,267
Speaker 4: Cotter's influence on that improvement.

927
00:48:21,587 --> 00:48:24,707
Speaker 7: Well, which we obviously know how good Werner's as a

928
00:48:24,787 --> 00:48:27,347
Speaker 7: key coach. I mean he's just gone from strength to strength.

929
00:48:27,387 --> 00:48:29,987
Speaker 7: He won won on France and did a great job

930
00:48:30,027 --> 00:48:31,547
Speaker 7: with Fiji when he's with us and then goes and

931
00:48:31,587 --> 00:48:34,787
Speaker 7: win's Super Rugby. So just bringing that sort of hard

932
00:48:34,867 --> 00:48:41,507
Speaker 7: edge mentality towards towards our four pack I think was outstanding. Also,

933
00:48:41,547 --> 00:48:44,027
Speaker 7: he just he knows how to win. You know, we're

934
00:48:44,067 --> 00:48:46,907
Speaker 7: extremely lucky to have Vern for three years. It was

935
00:48:47,027 --> 00:48:49,187
Speaker 7: you know, obviously disappointing that we he didn't go to

936
00:48:49,227 --> 00:48:52,467
Speaker 7: the World Cup with us. Simon Raeloni took over and

937
00:48:52,507 --> 00:48:57,187
Speaker 7: I think also same sort of mentality as Vern around

938
00:48:57,467 --> 00:49:01,347
Speaker 7: no nonsense and just getting our four pack a pretty

939
00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:04,027
Speaker 7: hard edge. And as you can see what the Blues

940
00:49:04,187 --> 00:49:06,667
Speaker 7: Blues did magnificently well was you can't win. They had

941
00:49:06,707 --> 00:49:09,427
Speaker 7: a Ford pack and I think I think at the

942
00:49:09,427 --> 00:49:11,667
Speaker 7: moment has got a really good four pack. So you know,

943
00:49:11,827 --> 00:49:16,387
Speaker 7: Ronnie playing and Saracen's Tavita is obviously a great hawker

944
00:49:16,427 --> 00:49:20,067
Speaker 7: playing for for for for us at the drawer. Asaki

945
00:49:20,107 --> 00:49:22,147
Speaker 7: Dongie also, you know, so you've got a front row

946
00:49:22,187 --> 00:49:25,907
Speaker 7: that can can compete with the All Blacks. And then

947
00:49:26,187 --> 00:49:28,347
Speaker 7: like I said, with the background, I think the back

948
00:49:28,467 --> 00:49:32,227
Speaker 7: row of Fiji, it's just amount of people that can

949
00:49:32,267 --> 00:49:32,907
Speaker 7: play in there.

950
00:49:32,947 --> 00:49:33,587
Speaker 12: For this test.

951
00:49:33,627 --> 00:49:36,827
Speaker 7: So it's a four pack that's been started with Burn

952
00:49:37,227 --> 00:49:39,707
Speaker 7: carried on the Simon and then obviously now Mix and

953
00:49:40,107 --> 00:49:41,947
Speaker 7: Graham Jews has done a good job with with that

954
00:49:42,107 --> 00:49:44,907
Speaker 7: with that team beating Georgia and Georgia just last week,

955
00:49:44,987 --> 00:49:46,747
Speaker 7: so which is no mean fake.

956
00:49:46,867 --> 00:49:48,827
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how do you reckon? Mcbern will go? It's

957
00:49:48,827 --> 00:49:50,307
Speaker 4: time to protect the future, I know, but how do

958
00:49:50,347 --> 00:49:50,627
Speaker 4: you reckon?

959
00:49:50,667 --> 00:49:50,907
Speaker 7: We'll go?

960
00:49:52,507 --> 00:49:52,667
Speaker 3: Oh.

961
00:49:52,787 --> 00:49:56,067
Speaker 7: Mcburn has been unbelievable for the for for the drawer

962
00:49:56,147 --> 00:49:57,987
Speaker 7: he started up and he's been there for three years.

963
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:00,627
Speaker 7: And the great thing about McKey he knows Fijians. He

964
00:50:00,667 --> 00:50:03,467
Speaker 7: knows he's lived there, he's lived and Breeze Fiji he

965
00:50:03,507 --> 00:50:07,747
Speaker 7: need left, so he knows the you know, the pressure

966
00:50:07,747 --> 00:50:11,587
Speaker 7: I suppose also from the Fijian public on performances, but

967
00:50:11,627 --> 00:50:14,507
Speaker 7: he also understands the boys and what makes them tick.

968
00:50:14,547 --> 00:50:17,707
Speaker 7: And you know, I think it's been a fabulous appointment

969
00:50:17,747 --> 00:50:21,227
Speaker 7: from Fiji Raby to sort of get the continuity from

970
00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:23,787
Speaker 7: the draw now into the national side this.

971
00:50:23,707 --> 00:50:28,827
Speaker 4: Game this afternoon playing in San Diego. Does that disadvantage

972
00:50:28,827 --> 00:50:31,267
Speaker 4: Fiji or could it fact, could it in fact be

973
00:50:31,467 --> 00:50:34,467
Speaker 4: an advantage being the fact that it's at a neutral venue.

974
00:50:36,747 --> 00:50:39,387
Speaker 7: No, I think it would have been a fabulous in Fiji.

975
00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:42,707
Speaker 7: I think it's where it was first muted to be there,

976
00:50:42,747 --> 00:50:47,347
Speaker 7: but unfortunately it didn't happen. Fiji's had a pretty hectic

977
00:50:47,467 --> 00:50:51,147
Speaker 7: sort of month obviously with Barbarians boshy straight up to

978
00:50:51,587 --> 00:50:53,587
Speaker 7: the quarter final, then they had Georgia and then they

979
00:50:53,627 --> 00:50:55,907
Speaker 7: had a week off, so they've sort of been overseas.

980
00:50:55,907 --> 00:50:58,427
Speaker 7: The good thing about that you're living and breathing with

981
00:50:58,467 --> 00:51:01,507
Speaker 7: each other, You're getting to know each other. So but

982
00:51:01,587 --> 00:51:03,227
Speaker 7: as you know, if you just look at drew as

983
00:51:03,307 --> 00:51:05,907
Speaker 7: results from home and away, a game in Fiji would

984
00:51:05,907 --> 00:51:08,067
Speaker 7: be it would be would have been fabulous today. But

985
00:51:08,707 --> 00:51:11,507
Speaker 7: I think San Diego is obviously great for a couple

986
00:51:11,507 --> 00:51:14,907
Speaker 7: of reasons. I think the North American market with the

987
00:51:14,907 --> 00:51:17,507
Speaker 7: World Cup, it's great. It's hope, hopefully going to be

988
00:51:17,547 --> 00:51:19,467
Speaker 7: a fantastic game. I know Feji will play and so.

989
00:51:19,427 --> 00:51:20,467
Speaker 11: Well, so we'll be all black.

990
00:51:20,507 --> 00:51:23,267
Speaker 7: So's if it's a great game of footy, then it's

991
00:51:23,307 --> 00:51:24,107
Speaker 7: only good for the game.

992
00:51:24,147 --> 00:51:28,707
Speaker 4: Obviously, marketing up in and the US, that's a positive

993
00:51:28,747 --> 00:51:31,547
Speaker 4: spin but you're right, Glen. I mean, how good would

994
00:51:31,547 --> 00:51:33,947
Speaker 4: it have been to have this game in siver for example,

995
00:51:34,107 --> 00:51:35,307
Speaker 4: or Lautoka.

996
00:51:37,107 --> 00:51:40,667
Speaker 7: Yeah, look at really amazinging half on about it, but

997
00:51:40,667 --> 00:51:43,867
Speaker 7: we've all seen what superb You needed something a bit

998
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:45,827
Speaker 7: of a change, and I think the drawer has brought that around.

999
00:51:46,787 --> 00:51:49,747
Speaker 7: The passion. I've had plenty of mates come up here

1000
00:51:49,787 --> 00:51:52,987
Speaker 7: and just say it's the best sporting experience they've ever had.

1001
00:51:53,507 --> 00:51:56,387
Speaker 7: SUV would have been pumped and jammed in with I

1002
00:51:56,387 --> 00:51:59,507
Speaker 7: think it oldt eighteen to twenty four, but there would

1003
00:51:59,547 --> 00:52:02,827
Speaker 7: have been thirty five thousand and bunched into that those hills,

1004
00:52:02,827 --> 00:52:04,787
Speaker 7: So yeah, it would have been It would have been amazing.

1005
00:52:04,787 --> 00:52:06,587
Speaker 7: It would have been amazing, but not only for for

1006
00:52:06,907 --> 00:52:09,667
Speaker 7: the Fijian boys, but also for the All Blacks to experience,

1007
00:52:10,547 --> 00:52:13,387
Speaker 7: you know, an atmosphere that like you don't often get now.

1008
00:52:13,387 --> 00:52:17,427
Speaker 7: I suppose, just pure passion of the wonderful Fijian people

1009
00:52:17,427 --> 00:52:19,227
Speaker 7: and how much they love the game. And also, of

1010
00:52:19,267 --> 00:52:21,747
Speaker 7: course two and a half hours from Juion, so the

1011
00:52:21,787 --> 00:52:24,427
Speaker 7: traveling community would have been up there as well, So

1012
00:52:24,427 --> 00:52:26,507
Speaker 7: it would have been a great experience not only for

1013
00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:30,667
Speaker 7: Fiji but also for the for the tourism market at

1014
00:52:30,667 --> 00:52:32,107
Speaker 7: the time of the year one.

1015
00:52:32,827 --> 00:52:35,147
Speaker 4: Agree. Yeah, the scenes in Super Rugby were just just

1016
00:52:35,227 --> 00:52:38,787
Speaker 4: to reflect obviously mixed move into head coaching Fiji saw

1017
00:52:38,827 --> 00:52:41,427
Speaker 4: you promoted to head coach of the Fiji and Drewer.

1018
00:52:41,867 --> 00:52:45,227
Speaker 4: How much are you looking forward to to taking the reins?

1019
00:52:45,867 --> 00:52:50,347
Speaker 7: Oh, super excited. I think obviously it's my first effort

1020
00:52:50,347 --> 00:52:52,947
Speaker 7: as a head coach. There's always always a bit of

1021
00:52:52,987 --> 00:52:56,627
Speaker 7: a well, not pressure, but just demands of obviously carrying

1022
00:52:56,667 --> 00:52:59,667
Speaker 7: on how well Mixed done making quarterforms two to three

1023
00:52:59,787 --> 00:53:03,467
Speaker 7: years looking forward to that. The love the idea of

1024
00:53:03,627 --> 00:53:06,587
Speaker 7: trying to take this young team another step for they're

1025
00:53:06,587 --> 00:53:10,107
Speaker 7: a very settled squad, which always helps. And now we're

1026
00:53:10,107 --> 00:53:12,107
Speaker 7: just going to get a couple of w's in on

1027
00:53:12,187 --> 00:53:14,587
Speaker 7: the road, which is something we've already been looking at

1028
00:53:14,627 --> 00:53:18,147
Speaker 7: pretty hard, and some experience of you know, some nineteen

1029
00:53:18,187 --> 00:53:20,467
Speaker 7: year olds in our twenty so that's that's fabulous. So

1030
00:53:20,467 --> 00:53:22,747
Speaker 7: we're getting our team a little bit older. We're still

1031
00:53:22,827 --> 00:53:25,067
Speaker 7: I think we've got one guy over twenty seven and

1032
00:53:25,107 --> 00:53:28,067
Speaker 7: the whole squad, so we're very, very massively young squad

1033
00:53:28,067 --> 00:53:31,707
Speaker 7: that are always learning. So it's great to be given

1034
00:53:31,747 --> 00:53:33,827
Speaker 7: the opportunity to lead such an amazing team.

1035
00:53:34,067 --> 00:53:35,587
Speaker 4: How do you want a White Games glean?

1036
00:53:37,507 --> 00:53:39,667
Speaker 7: Like I said, I just think you know, you look

1037
00:53:39,707 --> 00:53:43,107
Speaker 7: at it. You know, our teen was nineteen, one of

1038
00:53:43,107 --> 00:53:47,387
Speaker 7: our wingers was nineteen. You know, it's just it's experience,

1039
00:53:47,507 --> 00:53:50,667
Speaker 7: and I think belief is one of the things we've

1040
00:53:50,707 --> 00:53:53,987
Speaker 7: talked about a long and hard. Sometimes our boys are

1041
00:53:53,987 --> 00:53:55,827
Speaker 7: playing in front of their family and the fans and

1042
00:53:56,187 --> 00:53:58,307
Speaker 7: they just don't want to let them down, and that

1043
00:53:58,387 --> 00:54:00,987
Speaker 7: takes a lot out of the young boys as well,

1044
00:54:01,027 --> 00:54:03,027
Speaker 7: when you're at home and the pressure of them trying

1045
00:54:03,027 --> 00:54:04,707
Speaker 7: to win in front of their home crowd. Sometimes just

1046
00:54:04,747 --> 00:54:08,027
Speaker 7: going away as is the relief of obviously just living

1047
00:54:08,067 --> 00:54:10,067
Speaker 7: in a pretty nice hotel and eating different food.

1048
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:11,707
Speaker 14: So we just got to get all that ballots right.

1049
00:54:11,947 --> 00:54:14,907
Speaker 7: And I don't believe it is going to be a

1050
00:54:14,907 --> 00:54:18,067
Speaker 7: massively hard thing to change around more experience to get,

1051
00:54:18,067 --> 00:54:19,907
Speaker 7: the more the boys are going to understand how what

1052
00:54:19,987 --> 00:54:22,867
Speaker 7: professional rugby is about. So try and get one of

1053
00:54:22,867 --> 00:54:24,627
Speaker 7: those and then hopefully it just do. There's a flow

1054
00:54:24,667 --> 00:54:26,147
Speaker 7: on effect of the belief around that.

1055
00:54:26,307 --> 00:54:29,547
Speaker 4: Indeed, in terms of your coaching journey, it wasn't just

1056
00:54:29,547 --> 00:54:31,547
Speaker 4: from play to coach. You had that decade of top

1057
00:54:31,627 --> 00:54:35,267
Speaker 4: level refereeing in the middle. How helpful has that been

1058
00:54:35,867 --> 00:54:37,307
Speaker 4: in your transition into coaching?

1059
00:54:39,587 --> 00:54:43,347
Speaker 7: Massively, massively helpful, I think most of all, look I

1060
00:54:43,347 --> 00:54:46,307
Speaker 7: looked at going and coaching straight away from from playing.

1061
00:54:46,747 --> 00:54:50,587
Speaker 7: I think referrings even though it's an amazing part of

1062
00:54:50,627 --> 00:54:52,627
Speaker 7: the game and being part of it, but it's actually

1063
00:54:52,667 --> 00:54:56,107
Speaker 7: an individual aspect of still our great game of rugby.

1064
00:54:56,187 --> 00:54:59,427
Speaker 7: So it was gave me a good understanding of myself.

1065
00:54:59,467 --> 00:55:01,467
Speaker 7: I suppose more than anything, just going from team to

1066
00:55:01,507 --> 00:55:04,427
Speaker 7: team and the support you have around what you are

1067
00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:07,627
Speaker 7: about as a team gave me a little different approach

1068
00:55:07,667 --> 00:55:10,507
Speaker 7: of how to prepare and how to look after yourself

1069
00:55:10,667 --> 00:55:14,387
Speaker 7: more than everyone else. So that twelve years of referring,

1070
00:55:15,067 --> 00:55:16,627
Speaker 7: as we all know, it's not the easiest job in

1071
00:55:16,667 --> 00:55:18,747
Speaker 7: the world, so you learn to live with the ups

1072
00:55:18,747 --> 00:55:23,507
Speaker 7: and downs of your performance. And I guess I still

1073
00:55:23,547 --> 00:55:26,747
Speaker 7: get shirty at times with referees and their decisions, but

1074
00:55:26,747 --> 00:55:28,787
Speaker 7: I've got more of an understanding of how hard it is,

1075
00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:32,227
Speaker 7: and it's you know, it's not always the easiest job

1076
00:55:32,227 --> 00:55:33,627
Speaker 7: in the worse it's not always the rest fault, so

1077
00:55:33,627 --> 00:55:34,987
Speaker 7: I try and be a little bit balanced to that.

1078
00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:37,627
Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not fantastic at that, but it's just

1079
00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:41,147
Speaker 7: the passion of it. So it's I've really enjoyed the

1080
00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:45,547
Speaker 7: opportunity just to learn all the refing stuff was still

1081
00:55:45,547 --> 00:55:49,067
Speaker 7: for me was one of the highlights and of being

1082
00:55:49,107 --> 00:55:49,867
Speaker 7: involved in the game.

1083
00:55:50,027 --> 00:55:53,587
Speaker 4: Yeah, a great journey mate player, referee and now moving

1084
00:55:53,627 --> 00:55:55,507
Speaker 4: into our head coaching role with the Fiji and Drew

1085
00:55:55,667 --> 00:55:58,107
Speaker 4: look really enjoyed your insight this afternoon, Glenn, thanks for

1086
00:55:58,147 --> 00:56:00,147
Speaker 4: joining us. What is a what does a good performance

1087
00:56:00,187 --> 00:56:02,827
Speaker 4: or what does a good result look like for Fiji

1088
00:56:02,867 --> 00:56:06,667
Speaker 4: this afternoon? Just finally, Oh, they would definitely be to win.

1089
00:56:06,787 --> 00:56:10,107
Speaker 7: I think the changes the Orblacks are made new team is.

1090
00:56:11,547 --> 00:56:12,307
Speaker 3: Always that pressure.

1091
00:56:12,307 --> 00:56:16,587
Speaker 7: I suppose Razor making making the substitution or the changes

1092
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:19,467
Speaker 7: that he's made from the England series. I don't think

1093
00:56:20,307 --> 00:56:22,307
Speaker 7: even though they won two series that could have easily

1094
00:56:22,307 --> 00:56:25,187
Speaker 7: probably slopped just about lost both games, so there's there's

1095
00:56:25,227 --> 00:56:27,227
Speaker 7: a bit of pressure on them. So you know, the

1096
00:56:27,227 --> 00:56:30,427
Speaker 7: Fijian boys were definitely out there to win, but I

1097
00:56:30,427 --> 00:56:32,907
Speaker 7: think last time we played them was in Hamilton and

1098
00:56:33,267 --> 00:56:35,107
Speaker 7: the result blew out of it. But the gaming in

1099
00:56:35,187 --> 00:56:38,987
Speaker 7: Dunedin was quite a close game. So I think anything

1100
00:56:39,027 --> 00:56:41,827
Speaker 7: within ten points wo be it would be an amazing result.

1101
00:56:41,827 --> 00:56:44,987
Speaker 7: But yeah, I've got sever Resour is always the one

1102
00:56:44,987 --> 00:56:47,307
Speaker 7: that concerns me a little bit every time he plays,

1103
00:56:47,307 --> 00:56:50,387
Speaker 7: either the DRI or fijis up scoring bloody trice of fun.

1104
00:56:50,427 --> 00:56:52,947
Speaker 7: So as long as they look after our little Fijian buddy,

1105
00:56:52,987 --> 00:56:54,067
Speaker 7: we should be we should be.

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00:56:54,027 --> 00:56:57,587
Speaker 4: Okay, amazing, great to check Glynn, Thanks for your time, mate,

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00:56:57,987 --> 00:57:00,627
Speaker 4: good Man. Thanks Age, No, thank you. That's Glenn Jackson,

1108
00:57:00,667 --> 00:57:04,747
Speaker 4: of course, our former top class player a decade or

1109
00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:07,827
Speaker 4: more as a top class referee, now a coach. Great

1110
00:57:07,827 --> 00:57:11,547
Speaker 4: insight into the Fiji and rugby ecosystem from Glenn Jackson.

1111
00:57:11,627 --> 00:57:14,347
Speaker 4: Kick off at two thirty five this afternoon in San

1112
00:57:14,387 --> 00:57:17,627
Speaker 4: Francisco will start our build up after two o'clock. Will

1113
00:57:17,627 --> 00:57:21,387
Speaker 4: get you to San Diego. Did I say San Francisco?

1114
00:57:21,467 --> 00:57:25,467
Speaker 4: I meant San Diego snap Dragon Stadium of course, so

1115
00:57:25,507 --> 00:57:27,867
Speaker 4: we'll get you there before two o'clock with Bonnie Jansen.

1116
00:57:28,267 --> 00:57:31,387
Speaker 4: She's also going to grab a chat with Razor, which

1117
00:57:31,427 --> 00:57:34,627
Speaker 4: we'll hopefully get to after two o'clock. Your thoughts on

1118
00:57:34,667 --> 00:57:37,667
Speaker 4: the game interest are interesting to me. What is a

1119
00:57:37,667 --> 00:57:41,587
Speaker 4: good result for Fiji? Look, I think only the most

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00:57:41,747 --> 00:57:45,827
Speaker 4: ardent of Fiji and fans would be predicting a victory. Yes,

1121
00:57:45,867 --> 00:57:47,667
Speaker 4: as Glenn Jackson just said, they'll be going out there'll

1122
00:57:47,667 --> 00:57:49,227
Speaker 4: win the game. Of course they will. Any team goes

1123
00:57:49,227 --> 00:57:51,867
Speaker 4: out to win any game, and having beaten England and

1124
00:57:51,947 --> 00:57:54,987
Speaker 4: Australia at the back end of last year, this Fiji

1125
00:57:55,067 --> 00:57:58,267
Speaker 4: inside will sense the possibility of a win. Look, I

1126
00:57:58,307 --> 00:57:59,947
Speaker 4: don't think they'll win. I think the All Blacks will

1127
00:57:59,947 --> 00:58:04,107
Speaker 4: win the game. Fiji have never gotten within thirty of

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00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:07,067
Speaker 4: the All Blacks in the previous seven test matches between

1129
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:14,107
Speaker 4: the two. We had an article in the Herald we

1130
00:58:14,147 --> 00:58:17,827
Speaker 4: had to predict our ten point bracket. I predicted twenty

1131
00:58:17,827 --> 00:58:19,787
Speaker 4: to thirty. I think it's a twenty to thirty point

1132
00:58:19,827 --> 00:58:21,467
Speaker 4: win for the All Blacks. You might think it'll be

1133
00:58:21,467 --> 00:58:24,227
Speaker 4: a bit closer. Text it through two ninety two, just

1134
00:58:24,227 --> 00:58:28,187
Speaker 4: before we move on Artie Artie Savier. You would have

1135
00:58:28,227 --> 00:58:32,147
Speaker 4: caught this news yesterday. I'm sure it's looking highly likely

1136
00:58:32,187 --> 00:58:34,507
Speaker 4: as though Artie Savier will move from the Hurricanes to

1137
00:58:34,627 --> 00:58:37,507
Speaker 4: Mojana pacifica next year. Now, once the initial shock had

1138
00:58:37,507 --> 00:58:39,547
Speaker 4: worn off as a Hurricanes fan, I started to think

1139
00:58:40,147 --> 00:58:42,387
Speaker 4: a bit more clearly, rather than emotionally about this, I

1140
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:45,307
Speaker 4: have to say I don't mind it. Of course as

1141
00:58:45,347 --> 00:58:47,467
Speaker 4: a Hurricanes fan, I want Artie to play for my team,

1142
00:58:47,547 --> 00:58:52,787
Speaker 4: but imagine the good that he can do at Mowana Pacifica.

1143
00:58:53,667 --> 00:58:56,667
Speaker 4: They have really struggled to find super rugby relevance and

1144
00:58:56,707 --> 00:58:59,907
Speaker 4: competitiveness in their short life. Contrast them with the Fiji

1145
00:58:59,907 --> 00:59:04,267
Speaker 4: and Drewer, who have worked it out pretty quickly and

1146
00:59:04,347 --> 00:59:06,627
Speaker 4: have made the playoffs in the last two years. Will

1147
00:59:06,627 --> 00:59:10,027
Speaker 4: won to Pacific Up have really struggled by comparison, adding

1148
00:59:10,027 --> 00:59:13,387
Speaker 4: a player of Artie Savi's ability and stature will immediately

1149
00:59:14,187 --> 00:59:18,867
Speaker 4: improve them. He will add thousands to their gates for starters.

1150
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,507
Speaker 4: He'll be a mentor to younger players in the team,

1151
00:59:21,587 --> 00:59:24,547
Speaker 4: and through his own performances and his leadership, he'll drive

1152
00:59:24,587 --> 00:59:27,947
Speaker 4: the team forward. And for Hurricanes fans, you know, of

1153
00:59:27,947 --> 00:59:30,547
Speaker 4: course we're going to naturally worry about losing the World

1154
00:59:30,547 --> 00:59:33,267
Speaker 4: Player of the Year, but it does pay to remember

1155
00:59:33,307 --> 00:59:35,827
Speaker 4: that the Hurricanes just had one of their best seasons

1156
00:59:36,347 --> 00:59:40,427
Speaker 4: without them. He was playing in Japan as part of

1157
00:59:40,467 --> 00:59:43,467
Speaker 4: his sabbatical and there is a really good group of

1158
00:59:43,507 --> 00:59:45,507
Speaker 4: loose forwards at the Hurricanes. Now look at braidon your

1159
00:59:45,587 --> 00:59:48,267
Speaker 4: seat one of the standouts this pass rugby a Super

1160
00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:50,987
Speaker 4: Rugby season. He was being talked about in all Blacks conversations.

1161
00:59:51,027 --> 00:59:53,067
Speaker 4: Braid in your seat. If Ardie Savi had been there,

1162
00:59:53,067 --> 00:59:54,947
Speaker 4: he wouldn't have got the chance to play most of

1163
00:59:54,947 --> 00:59:59,067
Speaker 4: the time. Adding Peter Lacy, Brad Shields, Stuplusi Kodifi Devon Flanders,

1164
00:59:59,107 --> 01:00:01,867
Speaker 4: it's a fairly decent group of loose forwards at the Hurricanes.

1165
01:00:02,547 --> 01:00:05,307
Speaker 4: Do not get me wrong, of course, if you had

1166
01:00:05,347 --> 01:00:09,387
Speaker 4: your choice, Ardie Savia playing rather than not playing for you.

1167
01:00:09,427 --> 01:00:11,667
Speaker 4: But if he's going to go anywhere then mo Wana

1168
01:00:11,707 --> 01:00:15,307
Speaker 4: Pacifica seems like a really good destination for him. At

1169
01:00:15,347 --> 01:00:18,987
Speaker 4: least he's not going to the Blues one twenty six

1170
01:00:19,307 --> 01:00:21,667
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Speaker 4: News Talk NB one point thirty had it pointed out

1194
01:01:32,707 --> 01:01:35,107
Speaker 4: by Peter Fiji only lost by one point in an

1195
01:01:35,187 --> 01:01:38,307
Speaker 4: unofficial test against US in nineteen seventy four. Yeah, the

1196
01:01:38,347 --> 01:01:41,947
Speaker 4: official test matches began with the nineteen eighty seven Rugby

1197
01:01:41,947 --> 01:01:46,067
Speaker 4: World Cup and in the seven since then it has

1198
01:01:46,067 --> 01:01:49,067
Speaker 4: been well seven victories for New Zealand and never have

1199
01:01:49,547 --> 01:01:52,587
Speaker 4: Fiji got within thirty points. But yes, going back to

1200
01:01:52,587 --> 01:01:56,627
Speaker 4: the pre nineteen eighty seven Rugby World Cup days when

1201
01:01:56,627 --> 01:01:58,867
Speaker 4: the tests weren't official, there was that one point win

1202
01:01:59,707 --> 01:02:03,107
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy four. Well spotted Peter kee. We golfers

1203
01:02:03,187 --> 01:02:06,547
Speaker 4: Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillier have sneaked inside the cut

1204
01:02:06,587 --> 01:02:08,387
Speaker 4: line to book their place in the final two rounds

1205
01:02:08,387 --> 01:02:11,427
Speaker 4: at the Open Championship at Royal Troon, with the cut

1206
01:02:11,507 --> 01:02:14,867
Speaker 4: ending up at six over par. Ryan Fox's two over

1207
01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:17,787
Speaker 4: second round left him at four over, while a late

1208
01:02:17,907 --> 01:02:22,507
Speaker 4: eagle helped Daniel Hillyer finish at five over. Kazumikabori finished

1209
01:02:22,547 --> 01:02:26,227
Speaker 4: in agonizing one shot outside the cut mark. Michael Henry

1210
01:02:26,667 --> 01:02:29,907
Speaker 4: was three shots further adrift just before we moved to

1211
01:02:29,947 --> 01:02:33,707
Speaker 4: the leaders. That eagle by Daniel hilly Are on sixteen

1212
01:02:33,747 --> 01:02:38,467
Speaker 4: today was one of only two eagles all day. On

1213
01:02:38,547 --> 01:02:41,827
Speaker 4: the sixteenth Dustin Johnson was the other one. I've even

1214
01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:44,627
Speaker 4: got the stats here. Dustin Johnson a two hundred and

1215
01:02:44,707 --> 01:02:47,907
Speaker 4: ninety eight yard drive a two hundred and sixty three

1216
01:02:47,987 --> 01:02:52,187
Speaker 4: yard approach and a twenty four foot part. Daniel Hillyer

1217
01:02:52,267 --> 01:02:56,587
Speaker 4: get this a four hundred and nine yard drive. Goodness

1218
01:02:56,587 --> 01:02:58,947
Speaker 4: me a one hundred and fifty one yard approach and

1219
01:02:59,067 --> 01:03:02,267
Speaker 4: an eleven foot part. So the two eagle makers on

1220
01:03:02,347 --> 01:03:06,947
Speaker 4: sixteen today at Royal Troon, Dustin Johnson and Daniel it

1221
01:03:07,027 --> 01:03:09,507
Speaker 4: is not bad company. I Meantime, a long Boodie put

1222
01:03:09,507 --> 01:03:13,387
Speaker 4: to finish has given irishman Shane Lowry a two shot

1223
01:03:13,467 --> 01:03:17,067
Speaker 4: lead after two rounds. The twenty nineteen champions two under

1224
01:03:17,147 --> 01:03:19,547
Speaker 4: round has taken him to seven under. He is too

1225
01:03:19,627 --> 01:03:23,027
Speaker 4: clear of the English pair of veteran Justin Rose and

1226
01:03:23,267 --> 01:03:26,907
Speaker 4: round one leader Dan Brown. Let's bring in Scott Taylor

1227
01:03:27,227 --> 01:03:31,227
Speaker 4: from talkSPORT, who's covering the Open Championship at Royal Troon.

1228
01:03:31,427 --> 01:03:33,067
Speaker 4: Scott great to get the chance to check. Do you

1229
01:03:33,067 --> 01:03:35,747
Speaker 4: tell us first of all about Shane Lowry second round?

1230
01:03:36,427 --> 01:03:36,667
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1231
01:03:36,707 --> 01:03:39,467
Speaker 16: Shane Lowry, excellent golf and the conditions that we're all

1232
01:03:39,547 --> 01:03:43,547
Speaker 16: true today were unlike yesterday. Yesterday was wet and cold,

1233
01:03:43,627 --> 01:03:46,067
Speaker 16: but today was all about the wind. The mile an

1234
01:03:46,067 --> 01:03:48,627
Speaker 16: hour of the winds were up to thirty mile an hour.

1235
01:03:48,707 --> 01:03:51,547
Speaker 16: Come two or three o'clock in the afternoon. So on

1236
01:03:51,667 --> 01:03:54,387
Speaker 16: day one we saw people having irons off the tee

1237
01:03:54,427 --> 01:03:56,907
Speaker 16: on the first for example, today they were using wood,

1238
01:03:57,027 --> 01:04:00,107
Speaker 16: so just shows you the impact of the wind. And

1239
01:04:00,147 --> 01:04:03,627
Speaker 16: for Shane Larry to shoot a bogie three sixty nine

1240
01:04:03,827 --> 01:04:07,747
Speaker 16: was sensational. And he's asked every time in these conditions

1241
01:04:08,107 --> 01:04:10,467
Speaker 16: do you like playing in them? And don't you prefer

1242
01:04:10,587 --> 01:04:12,987
Speaker 16: playing in them? But because he's played a lot in Island,

1243
01:04:12,987 --> 01:04:15,427
Speaker 16: he actually says, well, I live in Florida now, so

1244
01:04:15,867 --> 01:04:19,387
Speaker 16: these aren't actually my home conditions anymore. But for him

1245
01:04:19,427 --> 01:04:23,267
Speaker 16: to provide that sort of spectacle in that level of

1246
01:04:23,267 --> 01:04:26,507
Speaker 16: golf today with sensational given how the rest of the

1247
01:04:26,507 --> 01:04:28,947
Speaker 16: field and some huge names, no doubt we'll talk about

1248
01:04:29,267 --> 01:04:32,427
Speaker 16: in a minute, struggled massively and for Shane Lowry two

1249
01:04:32,427 --> 01:04:35,107
Speaker 16: shots off the lead, great position to win a second

1250
01:04:35,107 --> 01:04:36,187
Speaker 16: Open in five years.

1251
01:04:36,707 --> 01:04:40,147
Speaker 4: Just tim guys and read numbers after two rounds, which

1252
01:04:40,227 --> 01:04:42,347
Speaker 4: I actually really like. I don't know about you, Scott,

1253
01:04:42,387 --> 01:04:44,827
Speaker 4: but this is the kind of golf I love. None

1254
01:04:44,867 --> 01:04:47,267
Speaker 4: of this, you know, twenty six understuff from the PGA

1255
01:04:47,387 --> 01:04:50,107
Speaker 4: two you see sometimes this is a real taste for

1256
01:04:50,147 --> 01:04:51,507
Speaker 4: the world's top golfers, isn't it.

1257
01:04:52,907 --> 01:04:53,147
Speaker 5: Oh?

1258
01:04:53,187 --> 01:04:55,907
Speaker 16: Absolutely, And that's why I loved even the US Open

1259
01:04:55,987 --> 01:05:00,427
Speaker 16: up Pinehurst, that those conditions were brutal as well. And

1260
01:05:00,467 --> 01:05:04,507
Speaker 16: it just the motto to truon is about as much

1261
01:05:04,507 --> 01:05:07,787
Speaker 16: as skill and power as it precision, and that's exactly

1262
01:05:07,827 --> 01:05:09,867
Speaker 16: what it is. And in linked golfers as well, you

1263
01:05:09,907 --> 01:05:11,947
Speaker 16: need to be able to hit the ball far, but

1264
01:05:12,107 --> 01:05:13,987
Speaker 16: in these winds you need to be able to manage

1265
01:05:13,987 --> 01:05:17,267
Speaker 16: the wind conditions and find the fair ways regularly, and

1266
01:05:17,587 --> 01:05:20,787
Speaker 16: also read the greens. The greens have been quite difficult

1267
01:05:20,827 --> 01:05:22,827
Speaker 16: to read for a lot of golfers, having spoke to

1268
01:05:22,867 --> 01:05:24,947
Speaker 16: them after their rounds. But I think one man who's

1269
01:05:24,987 --> 01:05:28,027
Speaker 16: putted superbly this week has been Justin Rose. And I'm

1270
01:05:28,067 --> 01:05:30,187
Speaker 16: sure we've touched on him in a sec but his

1271
01:05:30,587 --> 01:05:33,427
Speaker 16: Teeter Green has been fantastic. But on the greens. It

1272
01:05:33,547 --> 01:05:37,187
Speaker 16: saw his putts to Birdy the eighteenth failure on today

1273
01:05:37,227 --> 01:05:39,947
Speaker 16: that was sensational. But his putting game all week has

1274
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Speaker 16: been been up there with the very best.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So he was three under today, joint bast round of

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Speaker 4: the day. A few guys shot three. And to tell

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Speaker 4: us about Justin Rose, is he the one most likely

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Speaker 4: you think to challenge Shane Lowry over days three and four.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Justin Rose, it's a really good, feel good story.

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Speaker 16: I'm slightly biased because he's actually from the same sort

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Speaker 16: of area of England as I am really, so he's

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Speaker 16: quite a local boy. We both support the same foot

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Speaker 16: back in the UK, so he's always had a soft

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Speaker 16: spot for me. But this was a guy who had

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Speaker 16: to go through the Open qualifying to even reach Royal

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Speaker 16: Troon last week. So he went to one of the

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Speaker 16: qualifying events shot eight under part ended up coming through

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Speaker 16: that to even.

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Speaker 3: Get to here.

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Speaker 16: And it's quite admirable that a guy aged forty three

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Speaker 16: is still willing to put himself through the hard yards

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Speaker 16: to even compete to Open championships. He's won one major,

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Speaker 16: as you say, at the US Opening in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 16: so you're always seeing Ryder cupch example Justin Rose as

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Speaker 16: a clutch player. The big moment Justin Rose turns up

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Speaker 16: and I'd be delighted to see him win a Cleric jug.

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Speaker 16: There's been a lot of talk over the past couple

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Speaker 16: of years in golf about live and perhaps Justin Rose

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Speaker 16: could easily have been one of these players that in

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Speaker 16: his forties now, could have gone to live set up

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Speaker 16: his family for life. But I think the fact that

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Speaker 16: he still finds it such an honor to play at

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Speaker 16: major championships is just a testament to the character of

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Speaker 16: Justin Rose. So I mean, Shane Larry's a fantastic person

1306
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Speaker 16: off the field as well, but I'd love to see

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Speaker 16: Justin Rose win a claric jug.

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Speaker 4: I want to come back to the top of the

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Speaker 4: leader board in a moment. But you talked about some

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Speaker 4: big names who won't be there on days three and four.

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Speaker 4: Rory McElroy, Can you what's he living over after his

1312
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Speaker 4: two rounds? So you know, well outside the cat line,

1313
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Speaker 4: what happened to Rory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very good question.

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Speaker 16: It's the thing with Rory. He started to turn it

1316
01:07:36,707 --> 01:07:38,707
Speaker 16: on right at the end of his round. But it's

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01:07:38,707 --> 01:07:40,907
Speaker 16: been a theme of Rory McElroy. When the pressure is

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01:07:40,907 --> 01:07:43,707
Speaker 16: not on, he plays really good golf, but it's too little,

1319
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Speaker 16: too late, and he just his body language after hitting

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Speaker 16: a few bad shots. It just didn't look like his

1321
01:07:49,387 --> 01:07:52,307
Speaker 16: week in the build up. But I spoke to your

1322
01:07:52,347 --> 01:07:54,947
Speaker 16: colleagues as well and he looked really relaxed in the

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Speaker 16: build up. His press conferences. He was very relaxed, he

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Speaker 16: was having a laugh, He looked in a really good place.

1325
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Speaker 16: But one of the things he and many other golfers

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Speaker 16: will have pointed to that his practice rounds were in

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01:08:07,747 --> 01:08:11,667
Speaker 16: very generous weather for Scotland in July, whereas as soon

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Speaker 16: as championship days come around, there's swirling wins, there's conditions

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Speaker 16: he's not practiced in before. So to come up with

1330
01:08:19,107 --> 01:08:21,747
Speaker 16: a strategy sort of ad hoc really and not go

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01:08:21,867 --> 01:08:24,547
Speaker 16: into the Open Championship on what you plan to play

1332
01:08:24,907 --> 01:08:27,907
Speaker 16: because of the weather conditions must be hard. But it's

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Speaker 16: not just Rory, and I think he's going to be

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Speaker 16: given a spotlight given the profile of player. But we've

1335
01:08:32,787 --> 01:08:36,507
Speaker 16: seen Ludvid Oberd, We've seen Bryson Deschambeau, we've seen Victor Hobland.

1336
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Speaker 16: So it's not just Rory McRoy who's missed the cut.

1337
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Speaker 16: I think it's just one of those bad weeks. And

1338
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Speaker 16: unfortunately for him, there's not a major till the Masters

1339
01:08:45,027 --> 01:08:47,627
Speaker 16: now next year, so that wait for a major will

1340
01:08:47,667 --> 01:08:48,667
Speaker 16: become eleven years.

1341
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Speaker 4: Let's go back up to the top. We've talked about

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Speaker 4: Shane Lowry and Justin Rose. Who else is lurking Scott

1343
01:08:54,707 --> 01:08:57,107
Speaker 4: and could potentially make a run in the third or

1344
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Speaker 4: fourth round.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, the story for a lot of the people looking

1346
01:09:01,947 --> 01:09:04,067
Speaker 16: at the leaderboard. We'd look at Dan Brown. You know,

1347
01:09:04,187 --> 01:09:07,667
Speaker 16: he's open debut, shut the sixty five yesterday, not bad

1348
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Speaker 16: for your first round of open golf, and he's sort

1349
01:09:10,587 --> 01:09:15,267
Speaker 16: of an unknown really. But in terms of potentially winning

1350
01:09:15,267 --> 01:09:17,987
Speaker 16: the Cleric Juggle, a Shane Lowry's in a fantastic position,

1351
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Speaker 16: slow to Justin Rose. But for me, Scotty Scheffler, yesterday

1352
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Speaker 16: Pray played brilliantly, shot a seventy one underpass shot of

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01:09:25,827 --> 01:09:29,547
Speaker 16: seventy today as well. But his putting, if you ask

1354
01:09:29,627 --> 01:09:34,547
Speaker 16: someone to lip out every hole deliberately, Scotty Scheffler didn't

1355
01:09:34,547 --> 01:09:36,547
Speaker 16: really have to look. It felt like he left a

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Speaker 16: few shots out on the course, whereas a Shane Lowry

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Speaker 16: or Justin Rose probably played to their max to get

1358
01:09:43,427 --> 01:09:47,067
Speaker 16: their registered total, whereas Scheffler, you feel, left a few

1359
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Speaker 16: puts out there on round one and still only being

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Speaker 16: five off the lead with two rounds to play. I

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Speaker 16: know it's very predictable to say the world number one

1362
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Speaker 16: doing with a good shout of winning a major, but

1363
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Speaker 16: Scotty Sheffler's playing some good golf.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well they world number one, these players for a reason.

1365
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Speaker 4: At what score? When's this? Scott seven Ander threw two rounds.

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Speaker 4: If Shane Larry went par par would seem an underwin

1367
01:10:08,707 --> 01:10:10,547
Speaker 4: it or would they need to need to go a

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Speaker 4: bit lower than that.

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Speaker 16: I think you would go a little bit lower the

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Speaker 16: conditions tomorrow. It all depends on the conditions.

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Speaker 5: The conditions tomorrow look a.

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Speaker 16: Little bit worse than today in terms of a lot

1373
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Speaker 16: of rain about. There's going to be more swirling wins,

1374
01:10:23,987 --> 01:10:27,347
Speaker 16: so to shoot even parr might be a good score.

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Speaker 16: We were actually having a chat with some of the

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Speaker 16: some of the golfers today and one of the common

1377
01:10:32,147 --> 01:10:36,187
Speaker 16: themes was what would a scratch golfer get on today's conditions,

1378
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Speaker 16: And a lot of the pros were saying they probably

1379
01:10:38,187 --> 01:10:42,107
Speaker 16: would just about reach one hundred, if not very high nineties,

1380
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Speaker 16: which shows you just how tough it is out there.

1381
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Speaker 16: So I'd like to see a sort of ten eleven

1382
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Speaker 16: twelve underpart win this championship. As you mentioned earlier, low

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01:10:51,587 --> 01:10:54,907
Speaker 16: scoring major is always the best ones. So tomorrow will

1384
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Speaker 16: be tough and Sunday looks to be a little bit easier.

1385
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Speaker 16: So I'm looking at around the sort of eleven twelve

1386
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Speaker 16: ten under paw Mark.

1387
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Speaker 4: Wonderful Scott, thanks for joining us across New Zealand. Greydor

1388
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Speaker 4: nellisism look forward to seeing how round three and four

1389
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Speaker 4: play out at Royal True. Thanks for your time anytime, guys.

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Speaker 16: Take care now you.

1391
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Speaker 4: Take care too, Scott. Thanks indeed, Scott Taylor there from

1392
01:11:14,947 --> 01:11:17,347
Speaker 4: talkSPORT in the UK. So yes, so Daniel Hillier and

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Speaker 4: Ryan Fox will play the weekend. Daniel Hillier is five

1394
01:11:22,187 --> 01:11:24,947
Speaker 4: under the card. He will tee off at nine to

1395
01:11:25,067 --> 01:11:30,507
Speaker 4: twenty tonight New Zealand time, and Ryan Fox is underweyers

1396
01:11:30,507 --> 01:11:33,987
Speaker 4: I just scroll up at around eleven twenty five he

1397
01:11:34,107 --> 01:11:37,187
Speaker 4: is four under the card. So the two kiwis involved

1398
01:11:37,227 --> 01:11:40,427
Speaker 4: in the weekend Daniel Hillier and Ryan Fox. Unfortunately Michael

1399
01:11:40,467 --> 01:11:45,347
Speaker 4: Henry and Kazuma Kabori have missed the cut twenty to two.

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Speaker 4: Reminding you we're less than an hour away now from

1401
01:11:47,867 --> 01:11:50,347
Speaker 4: the All Blacks against Fiji. We've got full live commentary

1402
01:11:50,387 --> 01:11:53,907
Speaker 4: from San Diego with Elliott Smith and Frank Buntz. We'll

1403
01:11:53,947 --> 01:11:56,507
Speaker 4: get you to San Diego before two o'clock with Bonnie

1404
01:11:56,587 --> 01:11:59,027
Speaker 4: Jansen to set the scene Next up though, across the

1405
01:11:59,067 --> 01:12:03,067
Speaker 4: tessment our regular catch up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

1406
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Speaker 1: The voice of sports on your home of Sport Weekendsport

1407
01:12:07,787 --> 01:12:11,387
Speaker 1: with Jason Van and GJ Gunn Homes New Zealand's most

1408
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Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Talks.

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Speaker 4: Just on sixteen Away from two. Let's get you across

1410
01:12:16,707 --> 01:12:19,907
Speaker 4: the Tasman and bring in our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock

1411
01:12:19,987 --> 01:12:22,147
Speaker 4: in the car on the way to golf. I think

1412
01:12:22,187 --> 01:12:24,867
Speaker 4: that's the weather for your game today and good.

1413
01:12:24,707 --> 01:12:26,267
Speaker 14: Afternoon, Good afternoon.

1414
01:12:26,347 --> 01:12:28,987
Speaker 10: Yes the sun's out, but the wind is out. Let's

1415
01:12:28,987 --> 01:12:30,587
Speaker 10: give me interesting to the Test match light of the

1416
01:12:30,667 --> 01:12:34,987
Speaker 10: Savo and Sydney excellent with the Wallabies. But yeah, I

1417
01:12:35,027 --> 01:12:37,467
Speaker 10: think I've just basically decided because I play on a

1418
01:12:37,547 --> 01:12:40,987
Speaker 10: links course. It's basically, well, you guys are watching so

1419
01:12:41,067 --> 01:12:43,707
Speaker 10: much at the British Open at Troon, you can bloody

1420
01:12:43,707 --> 01:12:44,587
Speaker 10: play it as well.

1421
01:12:45,387 --> 01:12:48,307
Speaker 4: That's what we're in for, Lynks golf, love it all right,

1422
01:12:48,307 --> 01:12:49,827
Speaker 4: Well before you get to the course, A couple of

1423
01:12:49,867 --> 01:12:51,467
Speaker 4: things I wanted to kick around with you. I saw

1424
01:12:51,707 --> 01:12:55,027
Speaker 4: ESPN publish their list this week of the top twenty

1425
01:12:55,107 --> 01:12:58,547
Speaker 4: five Australian athletes of the twenty first century. So this

1426
01:12:58,707 --> 01:13:02,427
Speaker 4: is obviously from the year two thousand onwards. Ian Thorpe

1427
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Speaker 4: at the top, then Ash Party, the tennis player, basketballer

1428
01:13:05,427 --> 01:13:09,187
Speaker 4: Lauren Jackson, cricketer Elise Perry and football of Sam Kerr.

1429
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Speaker 4: Of the top five. Ian thought, would he be generally

1430
01:13:12,067 --> 01:13:14,587
Speaker 4: recognized as number one of the last twenty five years

1431
01:13:14,627 --> 01:13:14,787
Speaker 4: or so?

1432
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Speaker 10: Probably not, But you can't argue with it. I can

1433
01:13:19,987 --> 01:13:23,347
Speaker 10: understand it because he was so good as a kid

1434
01:13:23,467 --> 01:13:26,627
Speaker 10: at the two thousand Olympics and he was verging on

1435
01:13:26,667 --> 01:13:29,787
Speaker 10: dominant at the two thousand and one World Championships. In

1436
01:13:29,947 --> 01:13:32,667
Speaker 10: two thousand and four Athens Olympics, he backed it all up,

1437
01:13:32,747 --> 01:13:35,667
Speaker 10: So I've an amazing swim and I don't think we

1438
01:13:35,747 --> 01:13:38,827
Speaker 10: fully appreciate how he did what he did. I mean,

1439
01:13:39,027 --> 01:13:40,987
Speaker 10: he burst onto the scene of the World Championships when

1440
01:13:40,987 --> 01:13:43,507
Speaker 10: he was fourteen or fifteen and did what he did

1441
01:13:43,587 --> 01:13:45,907
Speaker 10: at the Sydney Olympics when he was seventeen. It was

1442
01:13:46,027 --> 01:13:50,467
Speaker 10: just like otherworldly. So yeah, an incredible athlete. Can't argue

1443
01:13:50,467 --> 01:13:52,467
Speaker 10: with that. The only thing that has got my head

1444
01:13:52,507 --> 01:13:54,667
Speaker 10: scratching about this list. And look, but I've seen a

1445
01:13:54,667 --> 01:13:56,307
Speaker 10: few of these pop up around the world at the

1446
01:13:56,307 --> 01:14:00,467
Speaker 10: moment twenty five for twenty five years is Kathy Freeman.

1447
01:14:00,547 --> 01:14:03,627
Speaker 10: She's come up with the best Australian sporting moment of

1448
01:14:03,747 --> 01:14:06,467
Speaker 10: the twenty first century at the Sydney two thousand Olympics,

1449
01:14:06,747 --> 01:14:10,147
Speaker 10: and she's way down the list. So it's a difficult

1450
01:14:10,147 --> 01:14:11,987
Speaker 10: one to weigh up. I don't envy the person who

1451
01:14:11,987 --> 01:14:15,267
Speaker 10: actually had to carry out the instruction, but yeah, is

1452
01:14:15,307 --> 01:14:17,027
Speaker 10: there a right? Is there a wrong? And it's a

1453
01:14:17,027 --> 01:14:17,667
Speaker 10: really hard one.

1454
01:14:17,747 --> 01:14:20,067
Speaker 4: Yeah, widthless of this sort. As you know, you've probably

1455
01:14:20,107 --> 01:14:22,107
Speaker 4: been asked to put them together yourself at your top

1456
01:14:22,147 --> 01:14:24,947
Speaker 4: five and my top five might cross over a little bit,

1457
01:14:24,987 --> 01:14:28,347
Speaker 4: but there's always discussion points. Keen on your thoughts on

1458
01:14:28,427 --> 01:14:32,067
Speaker 4: Ash Barti and her she's number two on this particular list.

1459
01:14:32,307 --> 01:14:36,267
Speaker 4: Her contribution to tennis and your country and to Australian sport.

1460
01:14:37,067 --> 01:14:42,427
Speaker 10: Yeah, she is universally love of a nationwide love Ash

1461
01:14:42,427 --> 01:14:45,467
Speaker 10: Party is should say universally because we're just one country

1462
01:14:45,467 --> 01:14:48,147
Speaker 10: in the universe. But you know what I mean, everyone

1463
01:14:48,227 --> 01:14:50,107
Speaker 10: loves ass Party. No one has a bad word to

1464
01:14:50,107 --> 01:14:55,587
Speaker 10: say about her. Incredibly humble human being. I've done some

1465
01:14:55,627 --> 01:15:01,987
Speaker 10: good things for indigenous sport and tennis and a fantastic

1466
01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:05,547
Speaker 10: tennis player as well to throw in there. And probably

1467
01:15:05,587 --> 01:15:08,547
Speaker 10: we're talking about someone if she stayed playing, and fair

1468
01:15:08,547 --> 01:15:10,907
Speaker 10: play to her or not because she didn't want to

1469
01:15:11,547 --> 01:15:15,067
Speaker 10: someone who wins ten twelve Grand Slams. But she won

1470
01:15:15,147 --> 01:15:17,507
Speaker 10: what she won and did it in a style that

1471
01:15:17,827 --> 01:15:21,147
Speaker 10: everyone loved here in Australia. It wasn't a grinding style.

1472
01:15:21,467 --> 01:15:24,747
Speaker 10: It had a bit of style about it. So yeah,

1473
01:15:24,907 --> 01:15:26,827
Speaker 10: no argument is there, Absolutely not all right?

1474
01:15:26,867 --> 01:15:29,987
Speaker 4: And the sport most represented in the top ten is cricket.

1475
01:15:29,987 --> 01:15:33,147
Speaker 4: Elast Perry I mentioned it four, Ricky Ponting six, Shane

1476
01:15:33,227 --> 01:15:38,147
Speaker 4: Warn seven. Any argument that that's not the right order

1477
01:15:38,147 --> 01:15:40,667
Speaker 4: at least Perry Ricky Ponting, Shane.

1478
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Speaker 10: Warn, Oh yeah, Warning did a bit of his did

1479
01:15:46,347 --> 01:15:48,667
Speaker 10: a bit of his thing in the other century, So

1480
01:15:49,107 --> 01:15:52,587
Speaker 10: I get all that. At least Perry probably goes so

1481
01:15:52,827 --> 01:15:55,507
Speaker 10: high because she's actually scored in a women's football World

1482
01:15:55,547 --> 01:15:59,907
Speaker 10: Cup as well multi sport, and look, she's for a

1483
01:15:59,947 --> 01:16:07,027
Speaker 10: sport that is hurtling towards more and more publicity and

1484
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Speaker 10: and eyeballs and everything, women's cricket. She was at the

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Speaker 10: forefront of it. She's a bit of a tilblazer and

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Speaker 10: every kid now who's fifteen, they're in awe of Elish Perry.

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Speaker 10: Not just fans of her like, they just absolutely love her.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, a huge name and probably deserves to be

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Speaker 10: in that top ten somewhere, all right.

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Speaker 4: As to say, these lists are debated endlessly but always

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01:16:29,267 --> 01:16:32,107
Speaker 4: good food for thought and for discussion. Just before you go,

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Speaker 4: I see Ann's posta cooglu and charge of Spurs. Obviously,

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01:16:35,467 --> 01:16:40,067
Speaker 4: the Australian boss has been talked about as a possibility,

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01:16:40,147 --> 01:16:44,027
Speaker 4: a possibility as a successor to Gareth Southgate as England's

1495
01:16:44,027 --> 01:16:45,907
Speaker 4: next manager. Can you see this happening?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't know if there's more hope than anything else,

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01:16:53,267 --> 01:16:58,947
Speaker 10: but I'd be amazed. Yeah, you can't rule anything out,

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Speaker 10: and I mean, if the financial package is good enough,

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Speaker 10: he might, but I just can't see it. On his

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Speaker 10: radar club coach. He got so frustrated as as soccer's boss. Sorry,

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01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:12,387
Speaker 10: I'm just reversing my car.

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01:17:12,507 --> 01:17:12,987
Speaker 4: That's the beat.

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01:17:13,027 --> 01:17:15,547
Speaker 10: That's just not my car. Reacting to us talking about

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01:17:15,587 --> 01:17:19,747
Speaker 10: and the possibility of coaching England. But I just can't

1505
01:17:19,747 --> 01:17:21,507
Speaker 10: see it happening at this stage of his life. He

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01:17:21,587 --> 01:17:25,627
Speaker 10: might go on to become a national team coach somewhere again,

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01:17:25,867 --> 01:17:27,267
Speaker 10: but that's in a decade.

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Speaker 3: Not now.

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Speaker 4: All right, Hey, you've got to leave there, Adam. We

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Speaker 4: need to get to San Diego. Not putting you on hold,

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Speaker 4: of course, but we'll look forward to tenity you next week,

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Speaker 4: by which time the Olympics will be underway. I know

1513
01:17:35,867 --> 01:17:37,867
Speaker 4: you're part of stand sports coverage of the Olympics on

1514
01:17:37,867 --> 01:17:40,027
Speaker 4: that side of the Tasman. Looking forward to chatting about

1515
01:17:40,107 --> 01:17:43,067
Speaker 4: your various medals and hopefully some of ours as well.

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Speaker 4: Good to chat to you, Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent.

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01:17:46,667 --> 01:17:48,667
Speaker 4: Eleven away from two. Yeah, when we come back, we're

1518
01:17:48,667 --> 01:17:50,787
Speaker 4: going to get you to San Diego. Bonnie Jansen from

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01:17:50,827 --> 01:17:54,627
Speaker 4: the New Zealand Herald is at snap Dragon Stadium. She'll

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01:17:54,627 --> 01:17:57,707
Speaker 4: paint the picture and set the scene for us. Right

1521
01:17:57,747 --> 01:18:00,067
Speaker 4: after this, of course, for commentary from two thirty five

1522
01:18:00,067 --> 01:18:01,067
Speaker 4: here on News Talks, he'd be.

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01:18:01,907 --> 01:18:04,227
Speaker 3: When it's down to the line. You made a call

1524
01:18:04,387 --> 01:18:09,467
Speaker 3: on eight Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News Talk ZMB.

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Speaker 4: It's just on seven away from two. Let's get you

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01:18:13,307 --> 01:18:16,307
Speaker 4: to San Diego. Snap Dragon Stadium scene of the All

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01:18:16,307 --> 01:18:18,627
Speaker 4: Blacks third Test of the Year against Fiji two thirty

1528
01:18:18,627 --> 01:18:21,067
Speaker 4: five kickoff. Bonnie Jensen from the New Zealand Herald has

1529
01:18:21,107 --> 01:18:23,827
Speaker 4: been pulled out of a large group of candidates to

1530
01:18:23,907 --> 01:18:26,827
Speaker 4: be there for US Live. How is the How has

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01:18:26,867 --> 01:18:29,227
Speaker 4: the experience been in San Diego? Of course you're in

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01:18:30,107 --> 01:18:32,507
Speaker 4: You're in San Fran. Weren't you for the for the

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01:18:32,707 --> 01:18:35,707
Speaker 4: Sale GP. Now in San Diego painting the picture for us.

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01:18:35,747 --> 01:18:38,467
Speaker 4: What are you seeing as you look out approaching seven

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Speaker 4: o'clock local time?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, calder fini, No, it's absolute scenes here. I've actually

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01:18:44,507 --> 01:18:46,907
Speaker 17: bumped into quite a few Kiwis that have also traveled

1538
01:18:46,907 --> 01:18:50,147
Speaker 17: from San Fran from the Sale GP down to San

1539
01:18:50,187 --> 01:18:52,987
Speaker 17: Diego for the All Blacks. It's bloody hot, I have

1540
01:18:53,067 --> 01:18:57,427
Speaker 17: to say, obviously playing more into Fiji's favor. But the

1541
01:18:57,507 --> 01:19:00,867
Speaker 17: sun is starting to set in it it will will

1542
01:19:00,907 --> 01:19:03,547
Speaker 17: become dark and the match is obviously being played under light.

1543
01:19:03,667 --> 01:19:05,707
Speaker 17: So no that the stands are filling up and it's

1544
01:19:05,707 --> 01:19:06,347
Speaker 17: it's great.

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01:19:06,187 --> 01:19:09,187
Speaker 4: At usphare tell us about the stadium. I think I

1546
01:19:09,427 --> 01:19:12,187
Speaker 4: read or heard it holds sort of thirty five thousand.

1547
01:19:12,787 --> 01:19:15,067
Speaker 4: What sort of stadium is it? Rectangular?

1548
01:19:15,427 --> 01:19:15,587
Speaker 7: You know?

1549
01:19:15,827 --> 01:19:18,427
Speaker 4: Painting the picture of the venue for us.

1550
01:19:18,947 --> 01:19:19,147
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:19:19,187 --> 01:19:22,627
Speaker 17: No, it's a rectangular stadium. It's kind of giving Mount

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01:19:22,667 --> 01:19:26,347
Speaker 17: Smart vibes. It's quite close to the field, like almost

1553
01:19:26,427 --> 01:19:30,387
Speaker 17: an ideal Premier League set up, and you'll know much

1554
01:19:30,427 --> 01:19:33,467
Speaker 17: of that, Piney, But no, it's you're very close to

1555
01:19:33,547 --> 01:19:37,427
Speaker 17: the players and they're currently warming up, which is great.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, there's no roofs as.

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Speaker 17: Well, but thankfully Blue Skies thirty five thousand people. I

1558
01:19:44,187 --> 01:19:47,307
Speaker 17: believe they only had a just under a thousand left

1559
01:19:47,307 --> 01:19:48,987
Speaker 17: to sell at the door, which the All Blacks are

1560
01:19:49,027 --> 01:19:52,627
Speaker 17: pretty confident they'll get done. So yeah, it's filling up now.

1561
01:19:52,747 --> 01:19:54,947
Speaker 17: The other thing that's really cool about the stadium is

1562
01:19:54,947 --> 01:20:01,027
Speaker 17: there's a rooftop here and basically a bunch of NFL stars,

1563
01:20:02,227 --> 01:20:06,187
Speaker 17: VIP guests, influences, people like that from San Diego have

1564
01:20:06,227 --> 01:20:10,427
Speaker 17: been invited and they're currently lounging up on this rooftop here,

1565
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Speaker 17: which this unbelievable bar.

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Speaker 10: It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So when you say that, are you among them?

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Speaker 17: Well, look, Pinee, I'm gusted I didn't get the invite,

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Speaker 17: especially because this is Alex Morgan's home stadium. You'll know

1570
01:20:25,307 --> 01:20:28,467
Speaker 17: her pioneer. She's a world class soccer player, as they

1571
01:20:28,507 --> 01:20:31,147
Speaker 17: call her in America and I was I was thinking

1572
01:20:31,187 --> 01:20:33,867
Speaker 17: maybe she might be up there. So I think I'm

1573
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Speaker 17: going to have to try and go wheezing my way

1574
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Speaker 17: in and see who.

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Speaker 3: Is up there.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you about a bluff your way and look

1577
01:20:40,307 --> 01:20:42,147
Speaker 4: just before you go. In terms of the crowd that

1578
01:20:42,187 --> 01:20:44,867
Speaker 4: are turning up, you mentioned seeing a few keywee's. Will

1579
01:20:44,907 --> 01:20:46,787
Speaker 4: there be some support for Fiji as well?

1580
01:20:48,107 --> 01:20:51,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, I believe there are talking with kind of the

1581
01:20:51,747 --> 01:20:55,067
Speaker 17: Fiji out of the Fiji camp. You know, there's there's

1582
01:20:55,107 --> 01:20:59,667
Speaker 17: a good Pacific culture here in San Diego, so yeah,

1583
01:20:59,747 --> 01:21:01,707
Speaker 17: no doubt there'll be a bunch of Fiji and plans

1584
01:21:01,747 --> 01:21:05,267
Speaker 17: at fans And already I can see blue blue flags

1585
01:21:05,627 --> 01:21:09,427
Speaker 17: hung up around the stadium. Definitely more black jerseys go piney.

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Speaker 17: And I don't know if you've heard, there's this thing

1587
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Speaker 17: called tailgating here and they basically fans come and sit.

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Speaker 2: In the car parks.

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Speaker 17: And I've just bumped into one Kiewe family that's Linden,

1590
01:21:20,667 --> 01:21:24,827
Speaker 17: San Diego, and they've got cray fash and prawns and cocktails.

1591
01:21:24,827 --> 01:21:27,587
Speaker 17: I've made up setting out there hours before the stadium.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, no, it's great vibes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, One of the great traditions of American sport is

1594
01:21:32,787 --> 01:21:35,507
Speaker 4: tailgating year. Some people don't even make it inside the ground,

1595
01:21:35,587 --> 01:21:38,187
Speaker 4: they just wait outside. Hey, Bonnie, great to get the

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01:21:38,267 --> 01:21:40,267
Speaker 4: chance to set the scene with you. We'll hear from

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Speaker 4: you again after two o'clock and I believe you're getting

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01:21:42,147 --> 01:21:45,347
Speaker 4: alongside raisor robertson Forest, So thanks for sitting the scene.

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Speaker 4: We'll like catch up after two see it then, Bonnie

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Speaker 4: Jensen live at snap Dragon Stadium. Where as you heard,

1601
01:21:52,627 --> 01:21:55,187
Speaker 4: the All Blacks and Fiji are warming up as we

1602
01:21:55,227 --> 01:21:58,067
Speaker 4: speak are twenty three degrees. I'm reading here on the

1603
01:21:58,107 --> 01:22:02,307
Speaker 4: live temperature gauge from San Diego, so yeah, that'll be

1604
01:22:02,387 --> 01:22:04,227
Speaker 4: I guess more sited to Fiji and it will be

1605
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Speaker 4: the All Blacks. We will begin our build up up

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Speaker 4: to this Test match after the news at two.

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