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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. It's the only place to discuss

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Speaker 1: the biggest sports issues on and afterfield. It's all on

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 2: With Jason Fane on your home of Sport US Talks.

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Speaker 3: Heh got a good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 4: Talks ed B. December seventh, Happy birthday to Larry Bird,

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Speaker 4: Happy birthday to Mark Geyer. I'm Jason pine Bevan dua

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Speaker 4: show producer. Today we are with you until three o'clock

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Speaker 4: talking sport. Massive day in Auckland today for football fans.

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Speaker 4: Key we a league Darby two point zero, the unbeaten

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Speaker 4: top of the table Auckland FC welcoming Wellington Phoenix to

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Speaker 4: what will be a jam packed sold out Mount Smart Stadium,

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Speaker 4: Go Media Stadium twenty six thousand plus expected from five

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Speaker 4: this afternoon. After one o'clock we'll get you inside both camps.

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Speaker 4: Now to Pineacap Auckland FC and or White's defender Costa

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Speaker 4: barbarusis or Whites and Wellington Phoenix attacker. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 4: this one are welcome to particularly if you're on your

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Speaker 4: weight of the game. Got some thoughts on which way

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Speaker 4: this one might fall. Cricket though, First up today, day

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Speaker 4: two of the Second Test, and Wellington's been going for

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Speaker 4: about an hour, resuming at eighty six for five. New

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Speaker 4: Zealand bowled out for one twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Here he goes.

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Speaker 6: He's gone.

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Speaker 7: Since taking a hat trick.

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Speaker 4: Here, that's gars Atkinson mopping up the tail with a

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Speaker 4: hat trick four for thirty one. Brighton cass backing up

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Speaker 4: his ten foot in christ Church with a four wicket

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Speaker 4: bag here as well. England have started their second innings

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Speaker 4: with a lead of one hundred and fifty five. They've

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Speaker 4: are twelve for one. That's a lead of one hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty seven. This game is and we're not even

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Speaker 4: at lunch on the second and we've had twenty one wickets.

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Speaker 3: What's happened to Test cricket? People just forgotten how to play.

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Speaker 4: We're live at the basin shortly with England cricket legend

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Speaker 4: and now commentator David Gower, and we'll keep your right

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Speaker 4: today across the afternoon with our man in Wellington, Andrew Orderson.

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Speaker 4: He might get an early flight home. He might be

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Speaker 4: able to come home tonight. You're in put an analysis

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Speaker 4: on the cricket welcome as well other matters around today.

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Speaker 4: On Thursday eleven, former New Zealand international cricketers were the

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Speaker 4: first to be inducted into the National Bodies Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: The inaugural inductees. We're going to hear from a few

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Speaker 4: of them today. Just a reminder that after two o'clock

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Speaker 4: on the show tomorrow, Sir Richard Hadley, one of those inductees,

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Speaker 4: joins me for an extended chat. Gold medalist for New

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Speaker 4: Zealand and the t forty seven two hundred meters of

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Speaker 4: the Paralympic Games earlier this year. Anna Grimaldi is with

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Speaker 4: us after two Adam Peacock along with his regular look

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Speaker 4: at sporting issues from across the Tasman. But a live

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Speaker 4: sport while we're on the air this afternoon, Test cricket, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but there's also Plunket Shield cricket happening around the country.

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Speaker 4: CD won the toss and sent northern districts into bat

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Speaker 4: of Mount Monganui Northern of forty five for three, Canterbury

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Speaker 4: of sent Otago in and rung yorder Otago sixty two

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Speaker 4: for three in Auckland have won the toss and elected

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Speaker 4: to bat first against Wellington and Eden Parks out of

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Speaker 4: oval they're eighty for one, so going along nicely there,

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Speaker 4: Sewan Solier forty five. Not out your calls and feedback

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Speaker 4: absolutely welcome, encouraged. In fact, this afternoon, oh eight hundred

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Speaker 4: nine two ninety two for texts, Emails them to me

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Speaker 4: Jason at Newstalk SB dot co dot NZ.

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Speaker 3: Ten and a half past midday.

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Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 4: David Gower, one of the true greats of English cricket,

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Speaker 4: eighty two hundred and thirty one runs and one hundred

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Speaker 4: time test run scorers for England. Another three thousand, one

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Speaker 4: from the base in reserve. David, thanks so much for

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Speaker 4: taking the time. The first out today. It's been England's

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Speaker 4: How much of this Morning's and Things in effect the

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Speaker 8: Well, he's head and soulders above him many many ways.

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Speaker 8: But the big difference is this. I mean, there are

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Speaker 4: It's been a tremendous first couple of years for him,

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Speaker 8: You've got Ben Stokes as another well, I say, good Durham.

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Speaker 8: You know christ Church and Durham. And it's an atmosphere

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Speaker 4: Be twelve twenty eight talking some cricket on O eight

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Speaker 10: Yep, I guess you just got to look.

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Speaker 4: let's bring in some guys. And as Zaye said, and

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Speaker 4: I heard those comments from I and Psmith as well.

431
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Speaker 4: When you're playing at home, you can get guys. Just

432
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Speaker 4: on a domestic flight, guys are playing plunket shield right now,

433
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Speaker 4: this reeks mighty you out of Canterbury. He's got a

434
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Speaker 4: couple of big hundreds. Yeah, I know it's a big

435
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Speaker 4: you know, it's a long bow to be drawn to say,

436
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Speaker 4: coming from first class cricket and play a Test match

437
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Speaker 4: against England and Hamilton. But if we're turning all down

438
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Speaker 4: in the series, then what is that'll lose anyway? Others

439
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Speaker 4: as well who have been waiting for an opportunity, Maybe

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Speaker 4: you just say if it's you know, if it's a

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Speaker 4: dead rather third Test, you know what, we'll try something

442
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Speaker 4: a bit adventurous that unfortunately would go against what this

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Speaker 4: team has been about. And I do like the idea

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Speaker 4: of security in selection. I do like that, especially in

445
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Speaker 4: cricket where it is such a numbers game where you

446
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Speaker 4: know you can you can get nervous after a run

447
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Speaker 4: of low scores you think the selector's acts is going

448
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Speaker 4: to fall. I like the fact that someone might say

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Speaker 4: to you, Okay, you know what, you're in this team

450
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Speaker 4: for the Test series, so don't worry if you get

451
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Speaker 4: a couple of low scores. You know we're not going

452
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Speaker 4: to just dump you. But that has got to have

453
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Speaker 4: a finite end at some stage, and there are guys

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Speaker 4: I think knocking on the door now Will Young is

455
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Speaker 4: a very good example.

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Speaker 3: Leaving him out of.

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Speaker 4: These first two test matches has proven to be Now

458
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Speaker 4: that we've batted three times has proven to be a mistake.

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Speaker 4: Will Young should be in this test side. So I

460
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Speaker 4: can only imagine how you're feeling.

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Speaker 11: Oh, you know, it.

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Speaker 13: Sounds it's just frustrating, pointy.

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Speaker 10: Ye.

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Speaker 13: Why is it that is you say, oh, we could

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Speaker 13: wait now that we had third test that you make changes.

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Speaker 13: There should have been changes before we come into this series.

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Speaker 14: I mean you can't.

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Speaker 8: Just people can't.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how they justify keeping Will Young carrying

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Speaker 14: the drinks. And then when you go look at our bowling, pointy,

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Speaker 14: I mean, why how did they defend someone like a

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Speaker 14: Tim Sowdy opening the bowling and he's boiling one hundred

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Speaker 14: and twenty five clicks and you say, okay, he moves

474
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Speaker 14: the ball. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough. The

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Speaker 14: series did. This series clearly tells me that it's just

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Speaker 14: a last hurrah for Saldi and it's just I just

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Speaker 14: don't like that. Why is it that we just we

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Speaker 14: do that kind of thing? I don't. Once the series over,

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Speaker 14: we'll be like, okay, so it'll be three nil drubbing.

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Speaker 8: It's just you know, Will.

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Speaker 14: Young off not batting, and then you go look at

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Speaker 14: our I don't know what's happened since India. I thought

483
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Speaker 14: we were riding high and then here we are now

484
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Speaker 14: and it's just like, I'm sorry, Piney, but it's just this,

485
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Speaker 14: this least is our taste in the mouth day and

486
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Speaker 14: I just changes should have been should have already been made,

487
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Speaker 14: and it's just it just feels like a boys club

488
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Speaker 14: that it's hard to get into their team and then

489
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Speaker 14: get out of the team. These guys need to be

490
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Speaker 14: put on to pressure if you don't perform being I'm

491
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Speaker 14: sorry you go back and play punk and shield because

492
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Speaker 14: you go look at people like Comway and you go

493
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Speaker 14: look at like a Blundell saw him this morning. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 14: you've got a good nut getting out. But it's like

495
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Speaker 14: time again failing. It's gonna there's gotta be something of change.

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Speaker 14: I'm just tired of this conservative approach by Gary stand

497
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Speaker 14: and it seems like we have to have some sort

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Speaker 14: of allegiance to South. They'd be like, oh no, we'll

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Speaker 14: just keep picking up. I just it doesn't run with me, Piney.

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Speaker 4: You know, no me either, And it also provides a

501
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Speaker 4: stark contrast to what happened with Neil Wagner, where he

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Speaker 4: he wasn't given anywhere close to the same courtesy in

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Speaker 4: terms of a farewell of any that left a really

504
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Speaker 4: bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: When yeah, I think everybody understood that Neil Wagner was

506
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Speaker 4: coming towards the end, but he was unceremoniously cut off

507
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Speaker 4: at the pass, you know, effectively, you know, basically told

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Speaker 4: to retire in no uncertain terms. Whereas I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the if there's a dead rather third Test, then they

510
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Speaker 4: should they should say, okay, well let's let's let's use

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Speaker 4: this opportunity to try some new Test players. Because I

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Speaker 4: don't play a lot of Test cricket. But Tim Saldy

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Speaker 4: will play in Hamilton, there's no there's no question because it's.

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Speaker 3: A Swan song.

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Speaker 4: It's his last Test. But look at his figures in

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Speaker 4: this one. You know, in the first innings with a

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Speaker 4: new ball, twelve overs none for sixty two. That's going

518
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Speaker 4: for five and over. He's bold three overs. In the

519
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Speaker 4: second inning's gone for sixteen, so five and over there

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Speaker 4: and he's out of the attack already.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't as you say, what are the consequences

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Speaker 4: for poor performance here?

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Speaker 14: It doesn't seem to be bunny. It's just I you know,

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Speaker 14: as you say, you bring up wagon, you know, and

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Speaker 14: even bold they didn't get a Swan song.

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Speaker 5: So what makes Tim.

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Speaker 14: Soudi so special? Oh so you got three hundred and

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Speaker 14: three hundred and something wickets. I can understand he's had

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Speaker 14: a great career, but I'm sorry he should have been

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Speaker 14: gone after that slinking Si. He shouldn't even have gone

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Speaker 14: to that sh Lincoln series.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 14: Tough decisions need to be made. And it's just like

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Speaker 14: I just think that we just keep giving and giving

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Speaker 14: and giving. And I know that when you go look

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Speaker 14: at the nineties and eighty two thousands that the cricket

538
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Speaker 14: team was in and out, in and out, in and out.

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Speaker 14: I get that, but it's just like, how are we

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Speaker 14: defending that kind of performance? And you go look at

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Speaker 14: our bets and then you go look at like a

542
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Speaker 14: Will Young who was just then pushed aside again, it's

543
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Speaker 14: like the bowls of Will Young. I'll be like you

544
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Speaker 14: know what gets stuff New Zealand cricket. I'll go and

545
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Speaker 14: play Frank trust cricket. You're gonna treat me like that.

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Speaker 14: It's just it's not on and it needs to be accountable.

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Speaker 14: And the thing is when it comes to Gary Stead,

548
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Speaker 14: when Saudi decided to drop the get and sea, where

549
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Speaker 14: was Gary Stead? I just I'm sorry, but it just

550
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Speaker 14: I feel like Gary Stead is a bit of a coward.

551
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Speaker 14: Here is where their chalabi and he should be front

552
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Speaker 14: lowers in the media and people asking the task questions

553
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Speaker 14: and sorry, what's going on you? Gary Stead? Our performance

554
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Speaker 14: is a port and you continue to keep letting it happen.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Rich, Always enjoy chatting to your mate. Always enjoy

556
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Speaker 4: your passionate, forthright views on the cricket lets. So there's

557
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Speaker 4: some more positive times ahead. The problem as well with

558
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Speaker 4: something like let's use Tim Soudy as the ongoing example.

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Speaker 4: He has been a magnificent cricketer for US. There's no

560
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Speaker 4: question at all that Tim Soudy has been a generational

561
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Speaker 4: cricketer for New Zealand and has played a massive part

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Speaker 4: in a period of unprecedented success for US, including the

563
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Speaker 4: winning of the World Test Championship. And Test match wins here,

564
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Speaker 4: there and everywhere. Unfortunately, what happens in a situation like

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Speaker 4: this is that we start to talk about Tim Soudy

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Speaker 4: now in less than glowing terms. And I know that's

567
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Speaker 4: the nature of sport and not everybody has a fairy

568
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Speaker 4: tail ending, but picking him for this Test match and

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Speaker 4: then having him bowl twelve overs in the first innings

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Speaker 4: three in the second I said this on the show.

571
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Speaker 4: I wasn't on the show last week. I must have

572
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Speaker 4: just said it to myself. But if they were, Mitchell

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Speaker 4: Santons should be playing this Test match. Mitchell Satiny should

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Speaker 4: be in this Test match. I know that that spinner

575
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Speaker 4: hasn't really been a factor, but he should be in

576
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Speaker 4: this Test match. And Matt Henry, Nathan Smith and Willow

577
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Speaker 4: Rourke should be the three pronged seam attack. And to

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Speaker 4: be honest, that's what they should do in Hamilton. Hamilton's

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Speaker 4: going to be a lot more spin friendly than Wellington

580
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Speaker 4: and I kind of get why looking at the pitch,

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Speaker 4: and you know, yes, spin hasn't already played a part.

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Speaker 4: In fact, England didn't use any spinners in the New

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Speaker 4: Zealand's things, and they have to because we're all out

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Speaker 4: for one twenty five inside thirty five overs. But you

585
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Speaker 4: look back to Nathan Lyne last year, Mitchell Santner must

586
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Speaker 4: play in Hamilton, and then you say if he plays,

587
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Speaker 4: you're dropping his Seama. They're not going to drop him South.

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Speaker 4: It's his last test next week. They're not gonna They're

589
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Speaker 4: not going to deny him that farewell. And I like

590
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Speaker 4: it when guys who you know, who have given a

591
00:30:16,507 --> 00:30:19,427
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of service to us get a

592
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Speaker 4: farewell that they deserve. I think that's right and fitting,

593
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Speaker 4: but it also has to be within the framework of

594
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Speaker 4: winning games.

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Speaker 3: Winning games.

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Speaker 15: JK.

597
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Speaker 8: Hello, Hey, how are you mate?

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Speaker 3: I'm okay, JK yourself?

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, good good first time call, a long time listener.

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Speaker 11: Love you except for your Wellington Lean minus aukman.

601
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Speaker 16: Friends love it.

602
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Speaker 3: JK, thanks for calling, and mate, what's on your mind?

603
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Speaker 11: Let me start with a couple of positives. Look Sally's

604
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Speaker 11: been outstanding for Usialma for a long time and if

605
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Speaker 11: it was me, I'd give him the last match as

606
00:31:00,867 --> 00:31:02,787
Speaker 11: a Swan song. But I probably wouldn't have picked him

607
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Speaker 11: for the first two, so I would give him that respect.

608
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Speaker 11: I think Conway at one stage I probably would have

609
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Speaker 11: Conway's that's my life over Williamson when he first started.

610
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Speaker 11: That's how great he.

611
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Speaker 16: Was he was.

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Speaker 11: And Blundell you know this, This guy is talented both

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Speaker 11: with the gloves and the bat. So these three players,

614
00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:27,587
Speaker 11: you know, have been great. So that's the positives, mate,

615
00:31:28,547 --> 00:31:32,067
Speaker 11: that the negatives here are. We absolutely can agree with

616
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Speaker 11: a whole lot of your other courcuse we have, but

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Speaker 11: we should have made changes earlier. And there's no way

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Speaker 11: that Salvy should have played in Sri Lanka. There's no

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Speaker 11: way he should have paid his first two tests. He's

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Speaker 11: got nothing to offer. An think, with all due respect,

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Speaker 11: Conway is well out of perform and you'd have to

622
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Speaker 11: have will Young there instead. Chuck around the patting order

623
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Speaker 11: with the guns at the top or later on, it

624
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Speaker 11: doesn't really matter, and bundle again. You know, we've got

625
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Speaker 11: other players that can either take the gloves that are inside,

626
00:31:59,387 --> 00:32:02,827
Speaker 11: could could come in, because all three of those players

627
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:05,507
Speaker 11: that I've just mentioned are offering nothing to this side.

628
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Speaker 11: And I don't care that we absolutely tramped India and

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Speaker 11: Great with very little from most of those players. But

630
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Speaker 11: you can't you can't carry players in football, as you

631
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Speaker 11: will know, Pineya chop and change your team to meet

632
00:32:20,507 --> 00:32:25,027
Speaker 11: what the situation is, to what your season is. In cricket,

633
00:32:25,107 --> 00:32:27,627
Speaker 11: there is no reason that you need to hide behind,

634
00:32:28,987 --> 00:32:33,947
Speaker 11: you know, owning a little bit of loyalty, you know,

635
00:32:34,067 --> 00:32:36,587
Speaker 11: a downturn and form. But you know, I've been dropped

636
00:32:36,627 --> 00:32:41,427
Speaker 11: twenty times in various playing careers in sports and I

637
00:32:41,547 --> 00:32:43,747
Speaker 11: have to live with that and they should too. Anyway,

638
00:32:43,827 --> 00:32:46,507
Speaker 11: that was my short and role of the positive.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it's the first time you've called JK.

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Speaker 4: You've got We've got to make you a regular. You've

641
00:32:51,387 --> 00:32:53,027
Speaker 4: got the number on your phone now, mate, so don't

642
00:32:53,027 --> 00:32:53,667
Speaker 4: be a stranger.

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00:32:55,347 --> 00:32:57,387
Speaker 11: Sound all well and.

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Speaker 7: You're going to say that.

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Speaker 4: I love it, mate, Thanks for calling again. Yeah, big

646
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Speaker 4: darby this afternoon. Looking forward to that as well. Seventeen

647
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Speaker 4: and a half away from one David. Please hold there

648
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Speaker 4: with you after this spear line if you want to

649
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Speaker 4: jump in. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Field Call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekends Ford with Jason Pine and GJ. Gunderholmes,

652
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

653
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Speaker 4: News Talks a Baby, News Talks a B one are

654
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Speaker 4: we won forty five, twelve forty five. Don't get don't

655
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Speaker 4: get worried, twelve forty five. I'm getting carried away, David Hi,

656
00:33:35,827 --> 00:33:38,347
Speaker 4: thanks for holding Jason.

657
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Speaker 11: Welcome back, Jim.

658
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Speaker 5: Just bring the cricket a few points. First of all,

659
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Speaker 5: one of the success in India, I think it glossed

660
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Speaker 5: over a number of things. And then as a India

661
00:33:50,547 --> 00:33:53,427
Speaker 5: took us like little women interested and they were more

662
00:33:53,467 --> 00:33:57,347
Speaker 5: interested in the Aussie tour that we only got four

663
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Speaker 5: hundred once in that series. And there was an element

664
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Speaker 5: you've got to take into account of actually worn a

665
00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:05,987
Speaker 5: little bit a lot of luck. And as much as

666
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Speaker 5: we lost toss in the first Test, they chose to

667
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Speaker 5: that we won the match.

668
00:34:10,027 --> 00:34:11,707
Speaker 13: If we're the batter first, we're the being dead.

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Speaker 5: And the second and third Test we won the toss.

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Speaker 5: And as you know, in batting in Asia, there's a

671
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Speaker 5: difference between batting third and betting fourth, and that was

672
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Speaker 5: the big difference. Lathan won the toss second and third

673
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Speaker 5: Test matches. Needs say more, but here it's becoming apparent

674
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Speaker 5: in our own conditions that were struggling. Sow they're getting

675
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Speaker 5: a new ball. Well, I mean, I don't know what

676
00:34:33,067 --> 00:34:36,027
Speaker 5: O'Rourke's done really that he shouldn't be given a new ball.

677
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Speaker 5: It'll been number one, number two during your previous quarter.

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Speaker 17: We wouldn't have.

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Speaker 5: Played sally, but the committed women now they stuck them

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Speaker 5: for the next test. But my biggest beeper is is

681
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Speaker 5: the fact that Blundell keeps back at six Phillips and

682
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Speaker 5: even more exasperated after this last and it's because of

683
00:34:55,907 --> 00:34:58,787
Speaker 5: the night watchman gets left on the tail, not out

684
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Speaker 5: every time. And if you think back to the nineteen

685
00:35:04,067 --> 00:35:07,187
Speaker 5: nineties and Ian Chappell from Channel nine as he was

686
00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:10,707
Speaker 5: then there is student. He made a point about Jack Tullis,

687
00:35:10,787 --> 00:35:14,467
Speaker 5: the South African bousman who would make a lot of runs.

688
00:35:15,107 --> 00:35:17,467
Speaker 5: As Ian Chapel will say, great average al app but

689
00:35:17,547 --> 00:35:20,867
Speaker 5: he was very slow precise, could never hurt you like

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Speaker 5: the Richard's Team Partner session if that makes sense of

691
00:35:23,627 --> 00:35:27,227
Speaker 5: people like yes, and Glenn Phillips is one of these

692
00:35:27,307 --> 00:35:30,027
Speaker 5: people that could take an attack and kill a team

693
00:35:30,147 --> 00:35:34,867
Speaker 5: figurative recals in a session and Blundell simply just can't

694
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Speaker 5: do that. And I don't know was gear instead. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the guy's got a very good test record, and he does,

696
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Speaker 5: but at some stage he's got to be a little

697
00:35:46,467 --> 00:35:50,147
Speaker 5: bit more flexible, would you think question?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I will get to the last point.

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Speaker 8: David.

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Speaker 4: You're right, it just feels as though there was absolutely

701
00:35:56,267 --> 00:36:01,187
Speaker 4: no innovation in selection. It is terrifically conservative selection.

702
00:36:02,947 --> 00:36:06,147
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not to be fair to Stead, as I say,

703
00:36:06,507 --> 00:36:09,187
Speaker 5: a good record, but that doesn't care at the end

704
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Speaker 5: of the day. But the other thing with Gary Stead

705
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Speaker 5: was it's always been a steady steid conservative. But I

706
00:36:16,347 --> 00:36:18,187
Speaker 5: was just going to actually read the football this afternoon.

707
00:36:18,227 --> 00:36:19,467
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you're calling it or not.

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Speaker 8: I am, yeah, I am okay, Well, who's your pick?

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Speaker 5: I'm going to climb the mine that it's an Aukland

710
00:36:26,787 --> 00:36:28,667
Speaker 5: swear as black and Blue at the Auckland Club are

711
00:36:28,667 --> 00:36:31,307
Speaker 5: game to win at least two Nils. So you're a

712
00:36:31,347 --> 00:36:34,747
Speaker 5: bit more better than these things and me, Norman solections Well,

713
00:36:34,947 --> 00:36:36,867
Speaker 5: I don't know whether that's true, David, But I tell

714
00:36:36,907 --> 00:36:38,987
Speaker 5: what I've been saying all week is that I think

715
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Speaker 5: Wellington win at one nil.

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Speaker 4: More analysis after one, but I've got Wellington winning at

717
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Speaker 4: one nil. I'll explain further after one when we really

718
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Speaker 4: get into the football. Good to tet you mate, Thanks

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Speaker 4: for thanks for calling in let's get to the base

720
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Speaker 4: and Andrew Ordison is there. We're not even at lunch

721
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Speaker 4: on the second day. Orders is this game already out

722
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Speaker 4: of reach of New Zealand?

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Speaker 13: Well, piny, I think it's getting towards that point for sure.

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Speaker 13: If you think that England were now with a lead

725
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Speaker 13: of what's at two hundred and twenty five. They were

726
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Speaker 13: leading by one hundred and fifty five on the first

727
00:37:08,067 --> 00:37:10,467
Speaker 13: of things up in New Zealand dismissed for one hundred

728
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Speaker 13: and twenty five and just crumbling. No real application with

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Speaker 13: the bat, the lack of application in the field from

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Speaker 13: christ which is pretty much translated to the bat in

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Speaker 13: Wellington and just well, if you look at the schoolcard,

732
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Speaker 13: came Williamson with thirty seven, no one else an excess

733
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Speaker 13: of seventeen and just even to booth, Gus Atkinson in

734
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Speaker 13: England past Baller with the fifteenth hat trick by an

735
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Speaker 13: English player in the test game. So that wrapped up

736
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Speaker 13: the tale of with Nathan Smith gave for fourteen, chopping

737
00:37:41,347 --> 00:37:43,587
Speaker 13: on in Matt Henry gone for a duck, fending to

738
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Speaker 13: Gully and Tim Saudi plum LBW to finish. So it's

739
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Speaker 13: a pretty awkward situation for this New Zealand team and

740
00:37:52,347 --> 00:37:55,107
Speaker 13: in many ways matchally mean, I know it's poor weather

741
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Speaker 13: expected tomorrow, Piney in Wellington, he wouldn't ar at the moment.

742
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Speaker 13: The basin is bathed in sunshine with a light northerly

743
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Speaker 13: coming through. But it's it's hard to see this's getting

744
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Speaker 13: beyond three days.

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Speaker 4: I was, I mean, we might bat again today, Alder.

746
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Speaker 4: You know that's England. England might just keep going for it.

747
00:38:12,107 --> 00:38:15,067
Speaker 4: What did you say they were head by now two.

748
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Speaker 13: Six twenty six?

749
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Speaker 4: Now they might They could declare after tea with a

750
00:38:19,227 --> 00:38:22,827
Speaker 4: lead of four hundred plus easily, absolutely.

751
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Speaker 13: And then he's going to be in and then who

752
00:38:23,947 --> 00:38:26,307
Speaker 13: knows what might happen from there on, And so it's

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Speaker 13: a it's a it's a difficult situation for this New

754
00:38:28,867 --> 00:38:31,547
Speaker 13: Zealand side and you're just not able to I mean,

755
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Speaker 13: I think what makes it particularly galling is if he's

756
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Speaker 13: got Will Young, the player of the series in the

757
00:38:36,707 --> 00:38:40,707
Speaker 13: historic three nail victory over India, and India, who's who's

758
00:38:40,747 --> 00:38:44,387
Speaker 13: carrying the drinks Piney in addition to that batting problem, it.

759
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Speaker 4: Just looks more preposterous by the day, doesn't it. Let's

760
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Speaker 4: give credit though to England's bowlers. I thought Brighton Cars

761
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Speaker 4: in particular off the back of what he did down

762
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Speaker 4: in christ Church, what he got, he's only been only

763
00:38:54,787 --> 00:38:56,867
Speaker 4: been in Test cricket five minutes another four five, I

764
00:38:56,867 --> 00:38:59,627
Speaker 4: thought he was very good, including who was the ball

765
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Speaker 4: that got blunder?

766
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Speaker 3: Was an absolute corker, wasn't it?

767
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Speaker 13: Absolutely top vost And similarly yesterday with came Williamson when

768
00:39:07,267 --> 00:39:11,027
Speaker 13: he dismissed him, Williamston was only on twenty and it

769
00:39:11,187 --> 00:39:13,227
Speaker 13: hit the top VOS numbers. Well, but that was declared

770
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:17,547
Speaker 13: a noball. But Williamson eventually gone to thirty seven. But yeah,

771
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Speaker 13: just that's the new Zealander has just struggled as they've

772
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Speaker 13: played some strokes and they just haven't been able to

773
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Speaker 13: apply themselves over a long period. And just to see

774
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Speaker 13: Glen Phillips left there coming in at eight given that, well,

775
00:39:30,187 --> 00:39:33,027
Speaker 13: I wrote with the night Watchman just left there sixteen

776
00:39:33,107 --> 00:39:35,107
Speaker 13: not out. You feel like that's a resource that's been

777
00:39:35,187 --> 00:39:36,827
Speaker 13: untapped and that he's editings as well.

778
00:39:37,387 --> 00:39:39,347
Speaker 4: Good man orders we'll check it again with you in

779
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Speaker 4: the middle session. Andrew Ordison read him at mziherld dot

780
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Speaker 4: co dot mz with all of the analysis etc.

781
00:39:45,787 --> 00:39:47,107
Speaker 3: There and on the radio with us.

782
00:39:47,147 --> 00:39:50,467
Speaker 4: Of course, England seventy two for one in their second innings,

783
00:39:50,587 --> 00:39:54,307
Speaker 4: seventy two for one in their second innings, So do

784
00:39:54,387 --> 00:39:56,187
Speaker 4: the maths on that and you'll find.

785
00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:56,987
Speaker 3: Them with a lead.

786
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Speaker 4: Just let me scroll down here and make sure it's

787
00:39:58,907 --> 00:40:00,587
Speaker 4: all up today. Yes, it is of two hundred and

788
00:40:00,747 --> 00:40:03,827
Speaker 4: twenty seven runs, So two hundred and twenty seven runs.

789
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Speaker 4: Make that two hundred and thirty one runs. As a

790
00:40:07,267 --> 00:40:09,587
Speaker 4: a ball flies over the top of Tom Blundell down

791
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Speaker 4: to the fence, whether it's off bat or not is.

792
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Speaker 3: Probably a moot point.

793
00:40:13,387 --> 00:40:16,147
Speaker 4: It's four more runs regardless, seventy six for one hour,

794
00:40:16,307 --> 00:40:19,867
Speaker 4: lead of two hundred and thirty one, with nine second innings,

795
00:40:19,907 --> 00:40:24,347
Speaker 4: wickets in hand and plenty of time left seven to one.

796
00:40:24,427 --> 00:40:25,147
Speaker 3: US talks HEB.

797
00:40:26,787 --> 00:40:27,587
Speaker 2: The suit from the.

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Speaker 1: Track field and the court on your home of sort

799
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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Vine, US talks HEB.

800
00:40:34,347 --> 00:40:35,627
Speaker 7: When it comes to blast bowler.

801
00:40:36,827 --> 00:40:40,227
Speaker 4: There's another page from the cast plaster top of off stump.

802
00:40:40,267 --> 00:40:44,147
Speaker 3: Blundelle's gone New Zealand ninety five for six.

803
00:40:44,387 --> 00:40:46,827
Speaker 4: Here that was Tom Blundell getting out earlier on today.

804
00:40:46,987 --> 00:40:49,307
Speaker 4: I don't care how good or bad a form of urine.

805
00:40:49,307 --> 00:40:51,827
Speaker 4: You're not keeping that one out as an absolute cracker

806
00:40:51,827 --> 00:40:54,587
Speaker 4: from Brighton Carse. He's been a real find for England,

807
00:40:54,707 --> 00:40:57,947
Speaker 4: charging in the pace bowler ten wickets down in christ

808
00:40:58,027 --> 00:41:00,707
Speaker 4: Church four in the first innings here, so well on

809
00:41:00,787 --> 00:41:02,467
Speaker 4: the way to that kind of man of the series

810
00:41:02,587 --> 00:41:05,427
Speaker 4: type conversation. We'll keep eyes on the cricket for you.

811
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Speaker 4: After one o'clock, going to pivot across to the football

812
00:41:07,987 --> 00:41:12,067
Speaker 4: because it is a massive afternoon in Auckland the A

813
00:41:12,267 --> 00:41:15,747
Speaker 4: League men's derby two point zero. I guess we can

814
00:41:15,787 --> 00:41:20,147
Speaker 4: call it Auckland FC unbeaten defending their fortress against their

815
00:41:20,307 --> 00:41:22,627
Speaker 4: big brothers from down the road to Wellington Phoenix, Nando

816
00:41:22,707 --> 00:41:25,027
Speaker 4: Pinaker and Costa barbarusis after one.

817
00:41:26,107 --> 00:41:30,227
Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

818
00:41:31,027 --> 00:41:35,907
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

819
00:41:36,067 --> 00:41:39,827
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

820
00:41:40,307 --> 00:41:41,507
Speaker 1: News Talk said been.

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00:41:42,427 --> 00:41:44,707
Speaker 4: Hello and welcome in or welcome back one O seven.

822
00:41:44,747 --> 00:41:46,947
Speaker 4: I'm Jason pine Bevan. You are producing the show here

823
00:41:47,027 --> 00:41:52,227
Speaker 4: till three tomorrow. After two, Sir Richard Hadley's on the show,

824
00:41:52,627 --> 00:41:55,147
Speaker 4: looking forward to chatting to Sir Richard. In fact, I've

825
00:41:55,147 --> 00:41:58,187
Speaker 4: already chatted to him. I've no point lying about it.

826
00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:00,667
Speaker 4: I do it the other day at the inaugural Hall

827
00:42:00,707 --> 00:42:05,507
Speaker 4: of Fame induction. But what a fascinating guy, an absolute

828
00:42:05,547 --> 00:42:07,827
Speaker 4: great of the game, of course. But yes, we're rich

829
00:42:07,867 --> 00:42:09,147
Speaker 4: had Had. They're going to play that in for you

830
00:42:09,187 --> 00:42:13,187
Speaker 4: tomorrow after two. Speaking of that Hall of Fame eleven inductees,

831
00:42:13,587 --> 00:42:17,867
Speaker 4: the first eleven Fittingley inducted on Thursday night at the

832
00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:21,667
Speaker 4: Cricket Museum at the Basement Reserve. Emily Drum, Debbie Hockley,

833
00:42:21,707 --> 00:42:26,347
Speaker 4: Brendon McCullum were among the inductees. Will have some of

834
00:42:26,467 --> 00:42:28,547
Speaker 4: their thoughts after two. But we're going to dedicate this

835
00:42:28,667 --> 00:42:30,907
Speaker 4: out to football. Just before I get there, though, a

836
00:42:30,947 --> 00:42:32,867
Speaker 4: couple of texts to mop up. I'll keep it short, Pine,

837
00:42:32,947 --> 00:42:37,067
Speaker 4: he says. Graham Jk's calls bang on Conway's Southdi Blundele

838
00:42:37,227 --> 00:42:39,227
Speaker 4: need a bit of scrutiny and why can't he Jazz

839
00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:42,507
Speaker 4: Bettel play in New Zealand for Pete's sake, says Graham.

840
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:47,507
Speaker 4: Warney played on all surfaces. Bevin dua producer, agrees he's

841
00:42:48,507 --> 00:42:51,707
Speaker 4: he's giving it the big thumbs up Sentiner sometimes but

842
00:42:51,907 --> 00:42:53,707
Speaker 4: still not a certain for me. Will Young is getting

843
00:42:53,747 --> 00:42:57,627
Speaker 4: mucked around, thanks Graham, Chris says Piney, you've nadled about

844
00:42:57,627 --> 00:43:00,067
Speaker 4: the treatment of Neil Wagner appalling. I love Southey, but

845
00:43:00,107 --> 00:43:01,787
Speaker 4: he should have been gone away while Ago and Paul.

846
00:43:01,827 --> 00:43:04,107
Speaker 4: Will Young proved himself in India, So why the heck

847
00:43:04,267 --> 00:43:04,947
Speaker 4: is he not playing?

848
00:43:05,787 --> 00:43:05,947
Speaker 8: Chris?

849
00:43:06,027 --> 00:43:08,467
Speaker 4: You won't an argument from me and from Derek and

850
00:43:08,547 --> 00:43:10,387
Speaker 4: Christ Yes, Jason Gary Steed's got it wrong with the

851
00:43:10,427 --> 00:43:13,667
Speaker 4: selections unfortunately, Brenda McCallum must be laughing as socks off.

852
00:43:14,467 --> 00:43:15,987
Speaker 3: See how they shouldn't have started the series.

853
00:43:16,067 --> 00:43:19,187
Speaker 4: Give Ben Sears or Ben listerygo also either Blundle of

854
00:43:19,267 --> 00:43:22,107
Speaker 4: Conway's got to go for Will Young. Lastly, the Phoenix

855
00:43:22,187 --> 00:43:26,027
Speaker 4: to score first against Auckland FC. That's good, Derek. I

856
00:43:26,547 --> 00:43:28,627
Speaker 4: see you stop short of actually saying no winning the game,

857
00:43:28,667 --> 00:43:30,827
Speaker 4: but you know, to each their own I guess. Thanks

858
00:43:30,867 --> 00:43:33,307
Speaker 4: for your text messages nine two ninety two if you

859
00:43:33,347 --> 00:43:35,347
Speaker 4: would like to send one through at any time.

860
00:43:35,467 --> 00:43:39,987
Speaker 3: It's just on eight past one. All eyes on referee

861
00:43:40,027 --> 00:43:42,107
Speaker 3: Tim Donaskis and.

862
00:43:42,267 --> 00:43:46,947
Speaker 18: Heach and firms Waukland FC go five from five.

863
00:43:47,347 --> 00:43:50,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the rain last weekend, Auckland getting it done

864
00:43:50,187 --> 00:43:53,827
Speaker 4: again against the Newcastle Jets, late goals from Nada Moreno

865
00:43:54,427 --> 00:43:58,427
Speaker 4: and then Francis Dvrees giving them a fifth straight win

866
00:43:58,987 --> 00:44:03,227
Speaker 4: and a fifth straight clean sheet. This afternoon, it is

867
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,027
Speaker 4: a sold out go Media Stadium in the Auckland suburb

868
00:44:06,027 --> 00:44:09,187
Speaker 4: of p Rows for drby two point zero. Quite weird

869
00:44:09,267 --> 00:44:12,307
Speaker 4: that Auckland and Wellington are playing each other for the

870
00:44:12,387 --> 00:44:15,827
Speaker 4: second time this season in just round seven, but it

871
00:44:15,947 --> 00:44:18,107
Speaker 4: is what it is and it is set to be

872
00:44:18,307 --> 00:44:20,107
Speaker 4: a magnificent occasion this afternoon.

873
00:44:20,187 --> 00:44:21,467
Speaker 3: Want to get your thoughts on it.

874
00:44:21,667 --> 00:44:23,467
Speaker 4: At some stage in the next little while you might

875
00:44:23,547 --> 00:44:25,827
Speaker 4: have some views on how this one might play out,

876
00:44:25,867 --> 00:44:28,027
Speaker 4: but let's get you straight into the Auckland FC camp

877
00:44:28,507 --> 00:44:31,667
Speaker 4: with center back for Auckland f C and the All Whites,

878
00:44:31,747 --> 00:44:34,307
Speaker 4: Nando Pinake. Now no, thanks for joining us on game day, mate,

879
00:44:34,347 --> 00:44:38,147
Speaker 4: hand on heart. Did you really expect the start that

880
00:44:38,187 --> 00:44:41,827
Speaker 4: you've had? Five games, five wins, five clean sheets.

881
00:44:43,187 --> 00:44:46,227
Speaker 17: Yeah, I guess not quite. It's been obviously an amazing

882
00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:46,787
Speaker 17: start for us.

883
00:44:47,667 --> 00:44:49,947
Speaker 19: We have been working really hard in the preseason to

884
00:44:50,147 --> 00:44:53,187
Speaker 19: have a start like we've had, so I guess we're yeah,

885
00:44:53,267 --> 00:44:55,907
Speaker 19: not too surprised, but things are going well for us,

886
00:44:55,987 --> 00:44:58,347
Speaker 19: and yeah, hopefully they continue to do so.

887
00:44:58,827 --> 00:45:01,627
Speaker 4: The bed rock of it all is your defensive performance.

888
00:45:01,747 --> 00:45:05,427
Speaker 4: Five straight clean sheets. What are the key reasons for

889
00:45:05,547 --> 00:45:07,827
Speaker 4: the water type defense that you guys are put together.

890
00:45:09,187 --> 00:45:11,107
Speaker 19: I think it's the whole team, the whole team working

891
00:45:11,147 --> 00:45:13,987
Speaker 19: really hard. Obviously, we have really good coaches helping us

892
00:45:14,387 --> 00:45:17,307
Speaker 19: tactically making sure we're set up really well. And I

893
00:45:17,387 --> 00:45:19,427
Speaker 19: think we have really really good players on our team

894
00:45:19,467 --> 00:45:21,987
Speaker 19: that obviously stop the ball going into the back of

895
00:45:22,027 --> 00:45:24,787
Speaker 19: the net. But it also, yeah, it's not less just

896
00:45:24,907 --> 00:45:27,827
Speaker 19: the defenders, it's the whole team obviously, the goalkeeper as well.

897
00:45:28,147 --> 00:45:30,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's everyone involved with the club.

898
00:45:30,947 --> 00:45:32,987
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I guess you've landed on a really

899
00:45:33,027 --> 00:45:35,107
Speaker 4: interesting point and that you know, often think they haven't

900
00:45:35,147 --> 00:45:37,347
Speaker 4: any goals and the goalkeeper must be good and he is.

901
00:45:37,587 --> 00:45:39,387
Speaker 3: The defenders must be good and you are.

902
00:45:39,507 --> 00:45:41,627
Speaker 4: But I wanted to ask about Louis the Strata, who

903
00:45:41,707 --> 00:45:43,747
Speaker 4: sort of sits in front of you almost like a

904
00:45:43,867 --> 00:45:46,827
Speaker 4: nightclub bouncer more than anything else, not letting anybody through.

905
00:45:47,307 --> 00:45:49,987
Speaker 3: How key has he been to your defense?

906
00:45:50,667 --> 00:45:53,707
Speaker 19: Yeah, very very important. I think he's been amazing all season,

907
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:57,027
Speaker 19: He's picked up so many balls, so many tackles, so yeah,

908
00:45:57,067 --> 00:46:00,107
Speaker 19: he helps us massively. So with Adham, yeah it would

909
00:46:00,147 --> 00:46:02,867
Speaker 19: be it's tough. So now we're very, very lucky to

910
00:46:03,147 --> 00:46:05,267
Speaker 19: have him on our team, and yeah, hopefully we can

911
00:46:05,387 --> 00:46:06,307
Speaker 19: keep it going all right.

912
00:46:06,347 --> 00:46:07,987
Speaker 4: Well, as you look to keep it going this afternoon

913
00:46:07,987 --> 00:46:10,987
Speaker 4: against Wellington Phoenix, you look at their side and you

914
00:46:11,147 --> 00:46:15,107
Speaker 4: land on guys like Costa, Barbarusis, Marco Rojas. Are they

915
00:46:15,187 --> 00:46:19,067
Speaker 4: player as you specifically legislate four or do you just

916
00:46:19,187 --> 00:46:22,107
Speaker 4: really keep on working on what your defensive system is

917
00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:22,547
Speaker 4: all about.

918
00:46:23,827 --> 00:46:26,987
Speaker 19: Yeah, we don't try to look too much into the opposition. Obviously,

919
00:46:27,067 --> 00:46:30,107
Speaker 19: we know they have dangerous players, Marco Costa, the dangerous

920
00:46:30,107 --> 00:46:32,667
Speaker 19: players in the A League. They've been around for a

921
00:46:32,747 --> 00:46:35,987
Speaker 19: long time, so we know what their strengths are. So yeah,

922
00:46:36,027 --> 00:46:38,947
Speaker 19: we're obviously trying to trying to minimize them as much

923
00:46:38,987 --> 00:46:41,827
Speaker 19: as possible and then focus on ourselves and hope that

924
00:46:41,947 --> 00:46:43,827
Speaker 19: we put out a very good performance.

925
00:46:44,027 --> 00:46:47,867
Speaker 4: They've also been productive at set peace time this season, Wellington.

926
00:46:47,987 --> 00:46:50,907
Speaker 4: Does that also factor into your preparation for this one?

927
00:46:51,747 --> 00:46:54,347
Speaker 19: Yeah, one hundred percent. We look at all their areas

928
00:46:54,667 --> 00:46:58,267
Speaker 19: where they've had success to try. Yeah, obviously do as

929
00:46:58,267 --> 00:47:01,827
Speaker 19: well as we can against the corners and the free kicks,

930
00:47:01,867 --> 00:47:04,307
Speaker 19: things like that. So we've looked at all the areas

931
00:47:04,347 --> 00:47:06,867
Speaker 19: where they could potentially score, trying to make.

932
00:47:06,787 --> 00:47:08,507
Speaker 17: Sure that, yeah, we keep another clean sheet and we

933
00:47:08,627 --> 00:47:09,107
Speaker 17: keep winning.

934
00:47:09,667 --> 00:47:11,707
Speaker 4: And I know a lot of the Kiwi boys in

935
00:47:11,707 --> 00:47:14,107
Speaker 4: the Auckland FC squad. You know there's a lot of

936
00:47:14,187 --> 00:47:17,187
Speaker 4: Kiwi boys in the Wellington Phoenix squad. You guys were

937
00:47:17,227 --> 00:47:19,387
Speaker 4: together not that long ago in an All White squad.

938
00:47:19,627 --> 00:47:22,507
Speaker 4: Does that add an extra dynamic to a clash like

939
00:47:22,547 --> 00:47:22,867
Speaker 4: this one?

940
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:24,427
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think so.

941
00:47:24,747 --> 00:47:27,427
Speaker 19: It's interesting because we play with them at national team level.

942
00:47:27,467 --> 00:47:30,507
Speaker 19: So yeah, sometimes we obviously get get on quite well

943
00:47:30,987 --> 00:47:33,747
Speaker 19: with the All White so it's interesting to play against

944
00:47:33,787 --> 00:47:35,747
Speaker 19: them and then this time there I guess your enemy

945
00:47:35,947 --> 00:47:39,307
Speaker 19: in a way, so yeah, but it's also it helps

946
00:47:39,387 --> 00:47:41,307
Speaker 19: us because we know how how they like to play

947
00:47:41,347 --> 00:47:42,867
Speaker 19: and what they're good at, what they're not so good

948
00:47:42,867 --> 00:47:46,067
Speaker 19: at that, Yeah, we can conteract that as well.

949
00:47:46,347 --> 00:47:48,387
Speaker 4: You've been playing your football off shore for the last

950
00:47:48,427 --> 00:47:50,987
Speaker 4: few years. How are you enjoying being back home for

951
00:47:51,027 --> 00:47:51,267
Speaker 4: a bit.

952
00:47:52,227 --> 00:47:53,347
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's been great.

953
00:47:53,347 --> 00:47:55,787
Speaker 19: Obviously, we've had a really good start which which has

954
00:47:55,827 --> 00:48:00,707
Speaker 19: helped massively, Yeah, but really enjoying being back around friends, family, Yeah,

955
00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:02,507
Speaker 19: getting to play in front of them, and getting to

956
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:03,227
Speaker 19: play in front.

957
00:48:03,507 --> 00:48:06,307
Speaker 17: Obviously the big crowd, big crowds at Auckland as well.

958
00:48:06,747 --> 00:48:09,067
Speaker 4: And when you look at your own performances. I know

959
00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:10,707
Speaker 4: it is a team game and you've alluded to that

960
00:48:10,787 --> 00:48:12,507
Speaker 4: a couple of times, but where do you think the

961
00:48:13,427 --> 00:48:15,627
Speaker 4: growth areas are for you as a footballer.

962
00:48:17,107 --> 00:48:19,467
Speaker 19: I think all the all the areas can get better

963
00:48:19,547 --> 00:48:23,707
Speaker 19: at obviously, Yeah, leadership want to be more of an

964
00:48:23,707 --> 00:48:26,867
Speaker 19: attacking threat at set pieces as well going forward at

965
00:48:26,907 --> 00:48:29,707
Speaker 19: the moment. Defensively we've been we've been pretty bit. We

966
00:48:29,787 --> 00:48:32,907
Speaker 19: haven't conceded yet, so hopefully we can obviously keep it.

967
00:48:32,947 --> 00:48:33,427
Speaker 8: Going that way.

968
00:48:33,467 --> 00:48:33,867
Speaker 5: We want to.

969
00:48:34,067 --> 00:48:37,147
Speaker 19: Yeah, stay as a team. They haven't have conceded the

970
00:48:37,467 --> 00:48:38,707
Speaker 19: least amount of goals this season.

971
00:48:39,187 --> 00:48:41,347
Speaker 17: That's the goal. So yeah, we'll see how we go.

972
00:48:41,787 --> 00:48:43,067
Speaker 4: And I know it was a while ago now, but

973
00:48:43,227 --> 00:48:45,267
Speaker 4: you talk about your threat at set pieces, talk us

974
00:48:45,347 --> 00:48:49,467
Speaker 4: through the ninety seventh minute back healed winner against Sydney FC.

975
00:48:51,267 --> 00:48:53,107
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's not too much to talk through.

976
00:48:53,307 --> 00:48:56,227
Speaker 19: Just all the ball obviously land in front and yeah,

977
00:48:56,267 --> 00:48:58,027
Speaker 19: I didn't know how to put it in the goal anyway,

978
00:48:58,147 --> 00:49:00,707
Speaker 19: was the back heel, so so I went through it. Yeah,

979
00:49:00,747 --> 00:49:03,107
Speaker 19: it was something they don't really think about in the moment.

980
00:49:03,267 --> 00:49:05,467
Speaker 19: Just happy, happy it went in with.

981
00:49:05,587 --> 00:49:07,467
Speaker 4: Your back to gold. Did you see it cross the line?

982
00:49:07,507 --> 00:49:09,067
Speaker 4: Did you swivel your head round? Did you see it

983
00:49:09,107 --> 00:49:09,787
Speaker 4: go over the line?

984
00:49:10,587 --> 00:49:12,787
Speaker 17: I didn't actually see it. I think Dan Hall saw

985
00:49:12,787 --> 00:49:13,187
Speaker 17: it before me.

986
00:49:13,307 --> 00:49:16,067
Speaker 19: He started celebrating, so then I started celebrating because he

987
00:49:16,187 --> 00:49:16,787
Speaker 19: was celebrating.

988
00:49:16,867 --> 00:49:18,667
Speaker 17: So yeah, it was a good moment.

989
00:49:18,987 --> 00:49:20,547
Speaker 4: We've had some good moments and a lot of them

990
00:49:20,587 --> 00:49:23,467
Speaker 4: have come down that end with the port already, this

991
00:49:24,267 --> 00:49:26,867
Speaker 4: supporter group that's just turning heads all around the A League.

992
00:49:27,027 --> 00:49:28,467
Speaker 4: How is it playing in front of those.

993
00:49:28,387 --> 00:49:29,227
Speaker 3: Guys and goods.

994
00:49:30,307 --> 00:49:31,427
Speaker 17: It's amazing, it's amazing.

995
00:49:31,587 --> 00:49:34,947
Speaker 19: They're like the twelfth Man in some way, and they've

996
00:49:34,987 --> 00:49:36,987
Speaker 19: been with us every single yeah step of the way

997
00:49:37,067 --> 00:49:37,387
Speaker 19: so far.

998
00:49:37,547 --> 00:49:40,227
Speaker 17: So yeah, we're looking forward to the game against Phoenix

999
00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:43,787
Speaker 17: as well. So yeah, they've been amazing and just on that.

1000
00:49:43,907 --> 00:49:45,507
Speaker 4: Not just them, but you know, you can't get a

1001
00:49:45,547 --> 00:49:48,707
Speaker 4: ticket to this game, you know, completely sold out. They're

1002
00:49:48,827 --> 00:49:50,747
Speaker 4: you know, sort of being bandied around on trade me

1003
00:49:50,867 --> 00:49:53,827
Speaker 4: for three and four times. What they're worth. What's it

1004
00:49:53,987 --> 00:49:55,947
Speaker 4: like being in the eye of this storm, this this

1005
00:49:56,587 --> 00:49:59,347
Speaker 4: this juggernaut that has been quickly created at Auckland f C.

1006
00:50:00,347 --> 00:50:02,907
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, it feels very good, feel very privileged.

1007
00:50:03,467 --> 00:50:06,107
Speaker 19: Obviously, we've been working really hard on the training field

1008
00:50:06,147 --> 00:50:08,107
Speaker 19: and in the five games that we've played so far

1009
00:50:08,867 --> 00:50:11,667
Speaker 19: to be at these games were so many fans around us,

1010
00:50:12,027 --> 00:50:13,427
Speaker 19: so it's just yeah, it's a pleasure.

1011
00:50:13,787 --> 00:50:16,027
Speaker 4: Well, we're looking forward to another big game this afternoon,

1012
00:50:16,067 --> 00:50:18,147
Speaker 4: five o'clock at go Media. Thanks for taking the time

1013
00:50:18,187 --> 00:50:19,827
Speaker 4: for a chat, Nando. All the best this afternoon.

1014
00:50:20,387 --> 00:50:21,747
Speaker 8: Thanks very much, No, thank you, Nando.

1015
00:50:21,827 --> 00:50:24,347
Speaker 4: Nando Pinaker there out of the Auckland FC side, has

1016
00:50:24,347 --> 00:50:26,907
Speaker 4: been a pretty important part of their team for the

1017
00:50:27,187 --> 00:50:30,947
Speaker 4: first five games of this year. Yeah, five clean sheets

1018
00:50:31,027 --> 00:50:33,747
Speaker 4: and yeah, as I said, it's a team effort. But yeah,

1019
00:50:33,827 --> 00:50:36,107
Speaker 4: Nando Pinick has been excellent. Good to see him back.

1020
00:50:36,147 --> 00:50:38,827
Speaker 4: He spent quite a bit of time overseas. Never really

1021
00:50:38,947 --> 00:50:41,387
Speaker 4: I don't think has kicked on to the ceiling of

1022
00:50:41,467 --> 00:50:43,707
Speaker 4: his potential. I've always liked Nando Pinker as a player

1023
00:50:44,267 --> 00:50:45,747
Speaker 4: and I think if he has a good season here

1024
00:50:45,787 --> 00:50:47,987
Speaker 4: in the A League, it may well be that he

1025
00:50:48,067 --> 00:50:50,907
Speaker 4: goes off overseas again, but I'm sure they're loving having

1026
00:50:50,987 --> 00:50:55,547
Speaker 4: him at go media. Let's get a Wellington Phoenix point

1027
00:50:55,587 --> 00:50:58,427
Speaker 4: of view now. A couple of days ago I spoke

1028
00:50:58,467 --> 00:51:01,067
Speaker 4: to Costa Barbarusis, who of course is a big part

1029
00:51:01,107 --> 00:51:02,667
Speaker 4: of what Wellington Phoenix are all about.

1030
00:51:02,987 --> 00:51:05,427
Speaker 3: Already three goals for him this season. He was player

1031
00:51:05,507 --> 00:51:07,067
Speaker 3: of the Year last season.

1032
00:51:07,787 --> 00:51:12,027
Speaker 4: I spoke to Costa after training on Thursday and talked

1033
00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,467
Speaker 4: about the last two games where the Phoenix have had

1034
00:51:14,507 --> 00:51:17,907
Speaker 4: two wins, two clean sheets. So how happy has the

1035
00:51:17,987 --> 00:51:21,787
Speaker 4: team been with the bounce back performances after the loss

1036
00:51:22,267 --> 00:51:22,827
Speaker 4: in the derby.

1037
00:51:23,507 --> 00:51:26,547
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty happy, to be honest. I think both different

1038
00:51:26,627 --> 00:51:30,427
Speaker 9: sort of performances. Marina's game. I thought we came out

1039
00:51:30,467 --> 00:51:32,347
Speaker 9: and we were on the front foot for most of

1040
00:51:32,427 --> 00:51:35,707
Speaker 9: the game. The victor on probably called for a bit

1041
00:51:35,747 --> 00:51:38,147
Speaker 9: of a different performance. The time of kickoff and the

1042
00:51:38,227 --> 00:51:40,947
Speaker 9: weather played a bit into it. So I think we're

1043
00:51:41,027 --> 00:51:43,387
Speaker 9: trying to be a bit more proactive by the game

1044
00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:47,267
Speaker 9: sort of played out differently, and you know, it's become

1045
00:51:47,307 --> 00:51:51,667
Speaker 9: a bit of a I guess, bit of a not

1046
00:51:51,787 --> 00:51:54,467
Speaker 9: a blueprint, but what we're known for to dig, dig

1047
00:51:54,507 --> 00:51:57,987
Speaker 9: when we need to and look to come away against

1048
00:51:58,427 --> 00:52:01,187
Speaker 9: victory really you know, in away game for both teams,

1049
00:52:01,507 --> 00:52:03,987
Speaker 9: and to get a clean sheet as I think it's

1050
00:52:04,067 --> 00:52:07,587
Speaker 9: great and shows that we're still progressing nicely.

1051
00:52:08,227 --> 00:52:09,987
Speaker 3: And goals in each of the two games. For you,

1052
00:52:10,147 --> 00:52:11,307
Speaker 3: that's three now for the season.

1053
00:52:11,667 --> 00:52:14,987
Speaker 4: I know you're always all about the team, but you

1054
00:52:15,107 --> 00:52:17,347
Speaker 4: know how important is it for a striker, you know,

1055
00:52:17,507 --> 00:52:18,747
Speaker 4: to score goals to help the team.

1056
00:52:19,427 --> 00:52:20,867
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's my job at the end of

1057
00:52:20,867 --> 00:52:23,547
Speaker 9: the day. You know, I can play as well as

1058
00:52:23,587 --> 00:52:26,187
Speaker 9: I want and think I'm doing a great job for

1059
00:52:26,227 --> 00:52:29,107
Speaker 9: the team, but people look for goals too. That's just

1060
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:33,427
Speaker 9: the fact. And you know, I think what you know,

1061
00:52:33,667 --> 00:52:35,627
Speaker 9: annoys Man makes me happy at the same time is

1062
00:52:35,707 --> 00:52:37,947
Speaker 9: that I hardly got a sniff in the vicdeo of game,

1063
00:52:37,947 --> 00:52:39,907
Speaker 9: but still come up with what the one shot and

1064
00:52:39,987 --> 00:52:43,747
Speaker 9: the goal, So you know, look, I'm helping the team.

1065
00:52:44,867 --> 00:52:45,747
Speaker 9: People don't see.

1066
00:52:45,627 --> 00:52:46,707
Speaker 2: It, you know, like you said, a lot of the

1067
00:52:46,787 --> 00:52:49,027
Speaker 2: other guys make it possible.

1068
00:52:49,947 --> 00:52:52,907
Speaker 9: You know, if we don't defend so well, it's to

1069
00:52:53,227 --> 00:52:54,787
Speaker 9: turn all down through on that and then my goal

1070
00:52:54,867 --> 00:52:58,307
Speaker 9: means nothing. So no, I'm just happy to do my

1071
00:52:58,427 --> 00:53:00,947
Speaker 9: job and contribute. I like to help in a lot

1072
00:53:00,947 --> 00:53:03,067
Speaker 9: of other ways too, But like I said, that's you

1073
00:53:03,147 --> 00:53:04,667
Speaker 9: know what people look at in.

1074
00:53:04,707 --> 00:53:08,307
Speaker 4: The last pass from Marca rohats. How have you found

1075
00:53:08,467 --> 00:53:11,587
Speaker 4: being back in the same team as a guy who.

1076
00:53:11,587 --> 00:53:13,027
Speaker 3: You know you go all the way back with.

1077
00:53:13,747 --> 00:53:15,987
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I can't wait to see more of them.

1078
00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:19,067
Speaker 9: I think all the fans everyone's the same. And I

1079
00:53:19,187 --> 00:53:20,867
Speaker 9: was talking to someone actually the other day. I don't

1080
00:53:21,507 --> 00:53:23,667
Speaker 9: if anyone else sort of that pick that ball up

1081
00:53:24,147 --> 00:53:25,987
Speaker 9: that probably doesn't make a chance of it. You know,

1082
00:53:26,107 --> 00:53:29,787
Speaker 9: he's takes his first up. Chuch perfectly sees that I've

1083
00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:32,387
Speaker 9: made a double run because the defenders come narrow and

1084
00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:36,187
Speaker 9: weighed it pretty well. So look, you know, we all

1085
00:53:36,267 --> 00:53:39,147
Speaker 9: know Marco and what he's about, so hopefully you can

1086
00:53:39,267 --> 00:53:41,907
Speaker 9: get back to honestly, anywhere close to his best with

1087
00:53:42,027 --> 00:53:45,547
Speaker 9: us is more than good enough. So hopefully his legs

1088
00:53:45,587 --> 00:53:47,547
Speaker 9: are feeling good and up for it and we keep

1089
00:53:47,587 --> 00:53:48,467
Speaker 9: seeing more and more of them.

1090
00:53:49,187 --> 00:53:50,227
Speaker 3: Let's talk about this weekend.

1091
00:53:50,587 --> 00:53:52,547
Speaker 4: You've played in a lot of a league derby's your

1092
00:53:52,587 --> 00:53:54,907
Speaker 4: time about victory, your time at Sydney FC, big big

1093
00:53:54,987 --> 00:53:59,627
Speaker 4: derby games. What is the key to not getting too

1094
00:53:59,787 --> 00:54:02,027
Speaker 4: carried away before the day arrives.

1095
00:54:03,107 --> 00:54:06,507
Speaker 9: It's it's tough one because it's easy to say to

1096
00:54:06,587 --> 00:54:10,227
Speaker 9: treat it like a normal game, but the way, you know,

1097
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:12,267
Speaker 9: not even the young guys or say people are these

1098
00:54:12,347 --> 00:54:14,947
Speaker 9: days with social media, it's right in your face and

1099
00:54:15,067 --> 00:54:18,507
Speaker 9: it's very hard to escape. You've just got to keep

1100
00:54:18,547 --> 00:54:22,307
Speaker 9: level headed as much as possible. There's there's noise, you know,

1101
00:54:22,387 --> 00:54:24,307
Speaker 9: It's like I said, you can't shy away from it.

1102
00:54:25,227 --> 00:54:27,067
Speaker 9: But you just need to focus on your job, you know.

1103
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,827
Speaker 9: I think, you know, I've become quite good at just

1104
00:54:31,467 --> 00:54:34,907
Speaker 9: zoning in and focusing on on the job at hand.

1105
00:54:35,027 --> 00:54:38,427
Speaker 9: And I hope the boys are better off for the

1106
00:54:38,707 --> 00:54:41,867
Speaker 9: for the first game to learn from that. Not that

1107
00:54:42,027 --> 00:54:43,947
Speaker 9: I think we played badly. I think we did okay,

1108
00:54:45,547 --> 00:54:47,867
Speaker 9: but they can learn. And you know, the darbies are

1109
00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:50,787
Speaker 9: going to be you know, every three, three, four times

1110
00:54:50,827 --> 00:54:53,347
Speaker 9: a year now, so hopefully each one they get more

1111
00:54:53,387 --> 00:54:56,587
Speaker 9: experienced and get better at handling it. But it is

1112
00:54:56,787 --> 00:55:00,387
Speaker 9: genuinely just sticking to the game plan and you know,

1113
00:55:00,747 --> 00:55:01,947
Speaker 9: keeping focus on your job.

1114
00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:05,947
Speaker 4: How much are you're relishing the opportunity to unlock a

1115
00:55:05,987 --> 00:55:09,187
Speaker 4: defense that has kept five straight clean sheets?

1116
00:55:09,627 --> 00:55:11,547
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I'd love to be the first one.

1117
00:55:12,467 --> 00:55:17,347
Speaker 9: Anyone in the team to be honest. Yeah, look, you

1118
00:55:17,427 --> 00:55:20,587
Speaker 9: know I think they've they've defended for their lives as well.

1119
00:55:20,667 --> 00:55:24,827
Speaker 9: They've you know, they've done really well. I think you

1120
00:55:24,907 --> 00:55:28,027
Speaker 9: can see not similarities to us, but the desperation to

1121
00:55:28,467 --> 00:55:30,307
Speaker 9: keep a clean sheet, which is you know, fair play

1122
00:55:30,347 --> 00:55:33,627
Speaker 9: to them, but in saying I think you know there's

1123
00:55:33,707 --> 00:55:36,947
Speaker 9: chances to be made there and yeah, I think we're

1124
00:55:36,987 --> 00:55:39,267
Speaker 9: good for a few chances and you know, if it comes,

1125
00:55:39,307 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 9: I'll take it.

1126
00:55:40,227 --> 00:55:41,947
Speaker 4: And there's no getting away from the fact that you

1127
00:55:42,467 --> 00:55:45,227
Speaker 4: both set to players that has know each other pretty well.

1128
00:55:45,267 --> 00:55:47,547
Speaker 4: I think it was half a dozen augnative players in

1129
00:55:47,587 --> 00:55:49,667
Speaker 4: the last all white squad with you. Does that add

1130
00:55:49,667 --> 00:55:52,347
Speaker 4: an extra layer to to a game.

1131
00:55:52,267 --> 00:55:56,627
Speaker 9: Like this, Yeah, I mean the first one was played

1132
00:55:56,707 --> 00:56:00,667
Speaker 9: very closer than international window, but nothing was really said.

1133
00:56:00,827 --> 00:56:04,547
Speaker 9: I think it's probably a bit touchy. You know, Bays

1134
00:56:04,627 --> 00:56:07,907
Speaker 9: sort of talk about the ongoings of the week before

1135
00:56:08,747 --> 00:56:11,387
Speaker 9: when we come into camp, but didn't really mention much,

1136
00:56:11,467 --> 00:56:14,867
Speaker 9: which you know, fair enough. And look, at the end

1137
00:56:14,907 --> 00:56:17,267
Speaker 9: of the day, it's it's bragging rights for us within

1138
00:56:17,347 --> 00:56:20,067
Speaker 9: here and then once we get together it's not forgotten.

1139
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:24,467
Speaker 9: But you know, it's better left unset. But yeah, in

1140
00:56:24,587 --> 00:56:27,667
Speaker 9: saying that, I'd love to, you know, equal it up

1141
00:56:27,707 --> 00:56:28,547
Speaker 9: and get one over them.

1142
00:56:29,067 --> 00:56:31,107
Speaker 4: It feels like there's just realm listening to other players,

1143
00:56:31,147 --> 00:56:33,107
Speaker 4: to media this week, and just the general feeling seems

1144
00:56:33,147 --> 00:56:36,427
Speaker 4: to be a real determination to I don't think even

1145
00:56:36,467 --> 00:56:38,107
Speaker 4: revenge is the right word, but just to you know,

1146
00:56:38,347 --> 00:56:40,307
Speaker 4: just to square the ledger, would that be fair?

1147
00:56:41,867 --> 00:56:44,107
Speaker 9: I mean, the facts are the top of the table,

1148
00:56:44,227 --> 00:56:46,987
Speaker 9: so we want to win to close that gap, and

1149
00:56:47,627 --> 00:56:49,827
Speaker 9: because we want to be there, you know, so as

1150
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:52,427
Speaker 9: if that's not motivation enough, and then you add on

1151
00:56:52,507 --> 00:56:55,507
Speaker 9: that it's a new DrBA, that that there's a lot

1152
00:56:55,547 --> 00:56:58,547
Speaker 9: of attention and the public's getting around it.

1153
00:56:59,867 --> 00:57:01,147
Speaker 3: There's a lot at stake, you know.

1154
00:57:01,267 --> 00:57:03,067
Speaker 9: That's why I said, you've got to keep your head

1155
00:57:04,147 --> 00:57:07,907
Speaker 9: and let the performance take care of yourself, because it's

1156
00:57:08,067 --> 00:57:11,467
Speaker 9: very easy to get overawed by it all. But we

1157
00:57:11,667 --> 00:57:14,467
Speaker 9: need to just be on our game because we don't

1158
00:57:14,507 --> 00:57:16,587
Speaker 9: want to be trailing for the whole year. We want

1159
00:57:16,627 --> 00:57:19,347
Speaker 9: to be there and then hopefully overtake them soon enough.

1160
00:57:19,747 --> 00:57:21,667
Speaker 4: All right, One last stet to finish that I picked

1161
00:57:21,747 --> 00:57:24,387
Speaker 4: up on goals in December. I'm not sure if you've

1162
00:57:24,387 --> 00:57:28,227
Speaker 4: seen this one. Bruno thorn Roll, he's got twenty goals

1163
00:57:28,307 --> 00:57:31,467
Speaker 4: in December. You've got seventeen your second Smells you also

1164
00:57:31,507 --> 00:57:34,067
Speaker 4: got seventeen when he was playing in the Deep Dark Past.

1165
00:57:34,867 --> 00:57:38,587
Speaker 3: Why you're so good at Christmas time, I don't know.

1166
00:57:38,707 --> 00:57:44,947
Speaker 9: It's probably promising presence. There's goals for people to be honest. Yeah, no,

1167
00:57:45,067 --> 00:57:48,787
Speaker 9: that's an interesting one. Seventeen Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1168
00:57:48,867 --> 00:57:49,787
Speaker 3: It's like, I think.

1169
00:57:51,187 --> 00:57:53,787
Speaker 9: It might sound weird, but I like to when the

1170
00:57:53,827 --> 00:57:59,467
Speaker 9: weather gets warmer, my mentality is to just even when

1171
00:57:59,467 --> 00:58:01,667
Speaker 9: I'm knaked, just to keep going because I know everyone

1172
00:58:01,747 --> 00:58:06,067
Speaker 9: else will be tired too. So I think like perseverance wins,

1173
00:58:06,427 --> 00:58:09,547
Speaker 9: and I know if I make a Ford run and

1174
00:58:09,747 --> 00:58:12,387
Speaker 9: make ten or twelve, the defender is going to be

1175
00:58:12,667 --> 00:58:14,867
Speaker 9: naked and not following me in one. And I don't

1176
00:58:14,867 --> 00:58:17,467
Speaker 9: know how that ties into December with you, but that's

1177
00:58:17,587 --> 00:58:21,147
Speaker 9: my mentality going into the warmer months, and maybe it's

1178
00:58:21,467 --> 00:58:21,867
Speaker 9: because of that.

1179
00:58:22,707 --> 00:58:24,787
Speaker 3: Well, all the best for the first game of this December,

1180
00:58:24,867 --> 00:58:25,747
Speaker 3: and thanks for chatting.

1181
00:58:25,867 --> 00:58:26,427
Speaker 20: Thanks binding.

1182
00:58:27,027 --> 00:58:30,427
Speaker 4: That's cost of Barbarusis. I baffled him with a December stat.

1183
00:58:32,187 --> 00:58:33,667
Speaker 4: I don't know who comes up with these things. I

1184
00:58:33,747 --> 00:58:37,547
Speaker 4: saw it online goals in December. Well December has arrived

1185
00:58:37,707 --> 00:58:40,467
Speaker 4: and for both Wellington Phoenix and Auckland f C, all

1186
00:58:40,547 --> 00:58:43,547
Speaker 4: roads lead to go Media Stadium this afternoon, eight hundred

1187
00:58:43,547 --> 00:58:45,827
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty. Keen to talks some football on

1188
00:58:45,907 --> 00:58:50,587
Speaker 4: this Auckland FC fans. Is this run of yours continuing?

1189
00:58:51,387 --> 00:58:54,147
Speaker 4: Five straight wins, five straight clean sheets? Is it going

1190
00:58:54,227 --> 00:58:57,747
Speaker 4: to be six from six and no goals conceded by

1191
00:58:57,787 --> 00:59:00,627
Speaker 4: about seven o'clock this afternoon eight hundred and eighty ten

1192
00:59:00,707 --> 00:59:05,867
Speaker 4: eighty Wellington Phoenix fans, are you stopping this run and

1193
00:59:05,947 --> 00:59:07,427
Speaker 4: it's racks this afternoon?

1194
00:59:07,507 --> 00:59:10,067
Speaker 3: And how is that going to happen?

1195
00:59:10,147 --> 00:59:13,307
Speaker 4: And football fans in general, those of you without any

1196
00:59:13,347 --> 00:59:16,107
Speaker 4: skin in this game, without any allegiance to either side,

1197
00:59:16,587 --> 00:59:20,147
Speaker 4: maybe you can be more dispassionate about the whole thing

1198
00:59:20,187 --> 00:59:24,547
Speaker 4: and just sort of examine this on a fact based basis.

1199
00:59:25,187 --> 00:59:26,347
Speaker 3: Who have you got winning this game?

1200
00:59:26,907 --> 00:59:29,227
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty would love to hear

1201
00:59:29,267 --> 00:59:31,707
Speaker 4: from you, two of you headed along this afternoon. Twenty

1202
00:59:31,747 --> 00:59:34,787
Speaker 4: six thousand seats all sold? In fact, it's twenty six thousand,

1203
00:59:34,827 --> 00:59:38,787
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty three. They're telling us. Why that

1204
00:59:38,947 --> 00:59:43,827
Speaker 4: number is relevant? Is that the biggest crowd for a

1205
00:59:43,907 --> 00:59:47,507
Speaker 4: regular season game up till now is twenty six thousand,

1206
00:59:47,587 --> 00:59:50,467
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty two. That is the number that

1207
00:59:50,507 --> 00:59:52,987
Speaker 4: turned up for the first Derbi a month ago in Wellington.

1208
00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:57,147
Speaker 4: So during the week and just the latest installment of

1209
00:59:57,267 --> 01:00:00,707
Speaker 4: the banter between these two clubs, Nick Becker, the CEO

1210
01:00:00,907 --> 01:00:03,467
Speaker 4: of Auckland f C, said, we've opened up some more

1211
01:00:03,507 --> 01:00:05,947
Speaker 4: ticket sales and if we sell them all then we'll

1212
01:00:05,947 --> 01:00:09,307
Speaker 4: get to t twenty six two five three exactly, one

1213
01:00:10,307 --> 01:00:13,307
Speaker 4: more person that was at the last one and therefore

1214
01:00:13,787 --> 01:00:14,627
Speaker 4: a new record.

1215
01:00:14,987 --> 01:00:15,187
Speaker 3: Look.

1216
01:00:15,227 --> 01:00:17,427
Speaker 4: I don't know how accurate those numbers are. All I

1217
01:00:17,547 --> 01:00:21,107
Speaker 4: know is there's going to be an absolutely extraordinary atmosphere

1218
01:00:21,147 --> 01:00:24,907
Speaker 4: this afternoon at go Media Stadium, the port Already the

1219
01:00:24,987 --> 01:00:28,107
Speaker 4: active support for Auckland FC have made their presence known

1220
01:00:28,547 --> 01:00:31,307
Speaker 4: Yellow Fever as I understand it, have been allocated nine

1221
01:00:31,427 --> 01:00:36,707
Speaker 4: hundred seats, nine hundred tickets in their area of go

1222
01:00:36,907 --> 01:00:40,107
Speaker 4: Media So and they've all been snapped up. So there'll

1223
01:00:40,107 --> 01:00:44,107
Speaker 4: be nine hundred Yellow Fever in their designated zone. But

1224
01:00:44,147 --> 01:00:47,387
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be at all surprised if around the ground

1225
01:00:47,467 --> 01:00:50,667
Speaker 4: there are Phoenix shirts, there are Phoenix supporters because Let's

1226
01:00:50,707 --> 01:00:53,307
Speaker 4: not forget Wellington Phoenix have been coming to Auckland to

1227
01:00:53,307 --> 01:00:56,267
Speaker 4: play a league football for over a decade. They've been

1228
01:00:56,307 --> 01:00:59,667
Speaker 4: bringing games here since the twenty twelve to thirteen season

1229
01:01:00,587 --> 01:01:03,067
Speaker 4: and actually have been very successful in doing that. They've

1230
01:01:03,107 --> 01:01:07,867
Speaker 4: played up here eighteen times and only lost once. But

1231
01:01:08,267 --> 01:01:11,947
Speaker 4: this afternoon is the first time Wellington Phoenix will play

1232
01:01:12,027 --> 01:01:17,827
Speaker 4: in Auckland as the away team, so an entirely different dynamic.

1233
01:01:17,867 --> 01:01:19,587
Speaker 4: But I would say there'll be a number of football fans,

1234
01:01:19,627 --> 01:01:21,427
Speaker 4: and I've spoken to some of them even in the

1235
01:01:21,507 --> 01:01:28,227
Speaker 4: last twenty four hours or so, who have followed Phoenix

1236
01:01:28,827 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 4: from Auckland, and well, I'm not going to not going

1237
01:01:34,187 --> 01:01:36,107
Speaker 4: to jump off that bandwagon just because there's now a

1238
01:01:36,187 --> 01:01:37,187
Speaker 4: team in their city.

1239
01:01:38,507 --> 01:01:39,627
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty.

1240
01:01:39,467 --> 01:01:41,547
Speaker 4: Ten to eighty to Talks on Football one twenty seven

1241
01:01:41,707 --> 01:01:42,947
Speaker 4: back with your cause right after this.

1242
01:01:44,347 --> 01:01:45,427
Speaker 2: You'd be the TMO.

1243
01:01:45,707 --> 01:01:48,107
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1244
01:01:48,267 --> 01:01:52,947
Speaker 1: Weekends Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's

1245
01:01:52,947 --> 01:01:54,547
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1246
01:01:54,467 --> 01:01:56,867
Speaker 4: Talks b Bang on one thirty on News Talks the

1247
01:01:57,027 --> 01:01:59,707
Speaker 4: b from Nick on Text, Jason, this crickets become embarrassing

1248
01:01:59,867 --> 01:02:01,507
Speaker 4: role on the A League. Yeah, I think that might

1249
01:02:01,587 --> 01:02:04,787
Speaker 4: be a sentiment shared by a few people around the place.

1250
01:02:05,267 --> 01:02:08,347
Speaker 4: Nick Raw, I know you've been following football for a while,

1251
01:02:08,427 --> 01:02:11,187
Speaker 4: particularly the Wellington Phoenix. How are you feeling about this afternoon?

1252
01:02:12,347 --> 01:02:14,667
Speaker 8: Hey, piny, I'm not the only role in the country.

1253
01:02:17,107 --> 01:02:18,787
Speaker 3: You get a lot of ruleies these days.

1254
01:02:21,307 --> 01:02:23,227
Speaker 21: Look, I thought i'd give you a yell because I

1255
01:02:23,387 --> 01:02:23,787
Speaker 21: just love it.

1256
01:02:23,907 --> 01:02:25,707
Speaker 8: And is there cricket on? I didn't know there was

1257
01:02:25,747 --> 01:02:26,147
Speaker 8: cricket on?

1258
01:02:26,707 --> 01:02:26,747
Speaker 16: No.

1259
01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:32,147
Speaker 21: Look, it's just been great for football and I just

1260
01:02:32,227 --> 01:02:34,707
Speaker 21: wanted to say how excited I am at the fact

1261
01:02:34,707 --> 01:02:37,467
Speaker 21: that there's a game today, even though I'm a Phoenix fan,

1262
01:02:37,627 --> 01:02:41,227
Speaker 21: and you know, just having Auckland in the league itself

1263
01:02:41,547 --> 01:02:44,147
Speaker 21: has done wonders. It's been beyond what we probably could

1264
01:02:44,147 --> 01:02:46,987
Speaker 21: have imagined in terms of the two games so far

1265
01:02:47,307 --> 01:02:49,907
Speaker 21: or one game so far in one today. So pretty

1266
01:02:49,947 --> 01:02:53,147
Speaker 21: stoked actually that football is getting this kind of publicity

1267
01:02:53,187 --> 01:02:54,867
Speaker 21: and this sort of attendance at the grounds.

1268
01:02:55,507 --> 01:02:55,667
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1269
01:02:55,667 --> 01:02:58,467
Speaker 4: I said to someone this morning that I mean, in

1270
01:02:58,587 --> 01:03:01,027
Speaker 4: my wildest dreams, I never would have imagined that twenty

1271
01:03:01,107 --> 01:03:03,307
Speaker 4: six thousand people would turn up to watch a game

1272
01:03:03,347 --> 01:03:05,947
Speaker 4: between two New Zealand clubs which was a regular season

1273
01:03:06,027 --> 01:03:07,907
Speaker 4: game and tickets to go and on trade me for

1274
01:03:07,947 --> 01:03:11,347
Speaker 4: two and three hundred dollars. They would have taken you away,

1275
01:03:11,587 --> 01:03:13,707
Speaker 4: Roy if you'd suggested that a few years ago.

1276
01:03:14,907 --> 01:03:17,587
Speaker 17: No, no, would never have dreamed of it.

1277
01:03:17,707 --> 01:03:19,867
Speaker 21: And of course what this is going to do now

1278
01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:23,507
Speaker 21: is that, yes, the third game and the derby is

1279
01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:25,707
Speaker 21: back up in Aukland, but when it's back in Wellington

1280
01:03:25,747 --> 01:03:29,187
Speaker 21: again next season or even in the playoffs hopefully you.

1281
01:03:29,267 --> 01:03:32,227
Speaker 8: Never know, then Phoenix will be out to or the

1282
01:03:32,307 --> 01:03:33,947
Speaker 8: Phoenix fans will be abut to beat that again.

1283
01:03:34,427 --> 01:03:36,947
Speaker 21: So it's going to create some sort of rivalry amongst

1284
01:03:36,987 --> 01:03:39,587
Speaker 21: the fans in terms of the crowd numbers as well

1285
01:03:39,627 --> 01:03:40,787
Speaker 21: as on the football field.

1286
01:03:41,187 --> 01:03:43,067
Speaker 17: So I think there's going to be a better competition there.

1287
01:03:43,187 --> 01:03:45,147
Speaker 4: What about the crowds that are turning up though, you know,

1288
01:03:45,227 --> 01:03:48,507
Speaker 4: you look at the foundation or sorry, the expansion teams

1289
01:03:48,507 --> 01:03:50,107
Speaker 4: into the league in the last five or six years,

1290
01:03:50,227 --> 01:03:54,427
Speaker 4: MacArthur Western United. You know they might have attracted early on,

1291
01:03:54,627 --> 01:03:56,907
Speaker 4: perhaps sort of seven eight thousand, but they've kind of

1292
01:03:56,987 --> 01:03:59,827
Speaker 4: rested around the three or four thousand mark. For Auckland

1293
01:03:59,907 --> 01:04:05,027
Speaker 4: to so quickly have galvanized and mobilized this fan base.

1294
01:04:05,547 --> 01:04:08,147
Speaker 4: I mean, I I don't live in Auckland. I know

1295
01:04:08,227 --> 01:04:09,867
Speaker 4: you don't die either, so I can't really speak to

1296
01:04:09,907 --> 01:04:13,027
Speaker 4: what's happening in the community. But it just seems incredible,

1297
01:04:13,067 --> 01:04:14,587
Speaker 4: doesn't it how quickly this has happened.

1298
01:04:15,667 --> 01:04:18,427
Speaker 21: Oh, it has been phenomenon. And I do know some

1299
01:04:18,547 --> 01:04:20,947
Speaker 21: Foundation members up there. You know, of course, so the

1300
01:04:21,067 --> 01:04:22,867
Speaker 21: banter you know, on the phones and the texture in

1301
01:04:22,907 --> 01:04:27,987
Speaker 21: the game is fast and furious. But yeah, I mean,

1302
01:04:28,147 --> 01:04:31,507
Speaker 21: like we hoped there wasn't bandwagoners. But what sort of

1303
01:04:31,587 --> 01:04:34,187
Speaker 21: put that to the test is the fact that, well,

1304
01:04:34,227 --> 01:04:36,307
Speaker 21: we've had results on the park or Aukland have had

1305
01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:39,267
Speaker 21: results on the park, so they're still around. And the

1306
01:04:39,347 --> 01:04:43,067
Speaker 21: longer they go, the longer those people become fans, so

1307
01:04:43,467 --> 01:04:47,267
Speaker 21: they'll turn them and you'll get decent crowds for most

1308
01:04:47,347 --> 01:04:50,067
Speaker 21: of the season, I would imagine from here, because they're

1309
01:04:50,067 --> 01:04:52,827
Speaker 21: well into it now. The only thing I'd say, and

1310
01:04:52,987 --> 01:04:55,347
Speaker 21: I agree with chiefly the Phoenix coach a little bit,

1311
01:04:55,547 --> 01:04:57,827
Speaker 21: is that the draw that Auckland had has been kind

1312
01:04:58,187 --> 01:05:01,907
Speaker 21: and and Phoenix have had three games in Australia away

1313
01:05:01,947 --> 01:05:05,187
Speaker 21: in one all three, whereas Auckland haven't really had a

1314
01:05:05,227 --> 01:05:06,867
Speaker 21: game in Australia. I've had one game and that was

1315
01:05:06,947 --> 01:05:09,227
Speaker 21: in ther Night Round, so it wasn't even MacArthur's home ground.

1316
01:05:09,707 --> 01:05:11,667
Speaker 21: So you know, I'm waiting for them to get over

1317
01:05:11,707 --> 01:05:14,587
Speaker 21: there and just you know, play play at Sydney City

1318
01:05:14,707 --> 01:05:17,707
Speaker 21: or or a Melbourne victory at home or an Adelaide

1319
01:05:17,867 --> 01:05:19,787
Speaker 21: and just you know, get a true test and then

1320
01:05:19,827 --> 01:05:21,067
Speaker 21: we'll get a really good idea.

1321
01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:23,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, good Man, roy A right our prediction.

1322
01:05:26,067 --> 01:05:26,867
Speaker 8: I said before.

1323
01:05:26,907 --> 01:05:28,587
Speaker 17: I think two really big defensive teams.

1324
01:05:28,667 --> 01:05:31,187
Speaker 21: Phoenix really haven't relying on Costa too much from a

1325
01:05:31,267 --> 01:05:34,227
Speaker 21: damn got that big target man like Oscar Zivada last year.

1326
01:05:34,307 --> 01:05:37,387
Speaker 21: So you know, I'd like to see Rojas play a

1327
01:05:37,427 --> 01:05:40,667
Speaker 21: bit more. Hopefully he does get a few more minutes

1328
01:05:40,707 --> 01:05:43,587
Speaker 21: on the part today. But yeah, I could see the

1329
01:05:43,667 --> 01:05:46,187
Speaker 21: ending in a draw. But let's let's sneak a goal

1330
01:05:46,267 --> 01:05:46,987
Speaker 21: for the Phoenix one.

1331
01:05:47,067 --> 01:05:49,107
Speaker 4: Noil, good Man, right, good to get you is always

1332
01:05:49,147 --> 01:05:51,227
Speaker 4: might great to catch up. Thanks for cooling and oh

1333
01:05:51,307 --> 01:05:54,027
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty All right, Derek, which

1334
01:05:54,067 --> 01:05:55,187
Speaker 4: way do you see this one going?

1335
01:05:56,147 --> 01:05:56,307
Speaker 20: Well?

1336
01:05:56,307 --> 01:05:57,467
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be very tight.

1337
01:05:57,547 --> 01:05:59,947
Speaker 10: I think Auckland's got home grown advantage, I think, which

1338
01:05:59,987 --> 01:06:02,307
Speaker 10: they are really believe in. It's but evergult they've only

1339
01:06:02,387 --> 01:06:06,187
Speaker 10: been there are five games, and I think Italiano was right.

1340
01:06:06,467 --> 01:06:10,947
Speaker 10: We're lucky in the Sydney game. You know, I didn't

1341
01:06:10,947 --> 01:06:12,627
Speaker 10: think there's anything wrong with the Sydney goal, But then

1342
01:06:12,627 --> 01:06:14,387
Speaker 10: I don't think there's anything wrong with the Auckland games

1343
01:06:14,587 --> 01:06:16,307
Speaker 10: the Aukland goal, so maybe it should have been one way.

1344
01:06:16,347 --> 01:06:18,947
Speaker 10: But when it goes to Vai Jason, it's a lottery.

1345
01:06:19,747 --> 01:06:22,707
Speaker 10: Sometimes you wonder if the guy behind the who's actually

1346
01:06:22,787 --> 01:06:25,507
Speaker 10: doing the VA. Sometimes you're wonder if he's ever done

1347
01:06:25,547 --> 01:06:27,787
Speaker 10: a coaching course or a playing course or a referees

1348
01:06:27,827 --> 01:06:29,947
Speaker 10: course in his a life. Some of the decisions they

1349
01:06:29,987 --> 01:06:32,467
Speaker 10: came out with, Oh my goodness, it's just embarrassing to

1350
01:06:32,547 --> 01:06:34,947
Speaker 10: the game. I think it's in a serious note. I

1351
01:06:34,987 --> 01:06:37,667
Speaker 10: think it's it's a worldwide I think it's the biggest

1352
01:06:37,707 --> 01:06:40,067
Speaker 10: problem within the game is VA. I don't think we need.

1353
01:06:40,187 --> 01:06:41,667
Speaker 10: I don't think any team needs. I don't think any

1354
01:06:41,747 --> 01:06:44,467
Speaker 10: league needs. I certainly don't think the majority of the

1355
01:06:44,547 --> 01:06:48,507
Speaker 10: supporters like it. But look, I watched the Phoenix go

1356
01:06:48,667 --> 01:06:50,747
Speaker 10: away from home. I think it was Games Melbourne.

1357
01:06:50,747 --> 01:06:51,267
Speaker 8: I think they've got a.

1358
01:06:51,267 --> 01:06:51,987
Speaker 10: Three nil victory.

1359
01:06:53,267 --> 01:06:55,147
Speaker 3: Mariners. Yeah'm central christ Mariners.

1360
01:06:54,827 --> 01:06:57,307
Speaker 10: Are the Mariners, that's right, last year's champions and I

1361
01:06:57,547 --> 01:07:00,747
Speaker 10: thought that was one of the best victories and one

1362
01:07:00,747 --> 01:07:03,147
Speaker 10: of the best games, and the quality of football and

1363
01:07:03,227 --> 01:07:06,067
Speaker 10: the quality of the goals I thought was fantastic. Sammy Sutton,

1364
01:07:06,107 --> 01:07:08,467
Speaker 10: for me, he is one of my favorite players because

1365
01:07:08,467 --> 01:07:10,107
Speaker 10: he used to play down at I saw him play

1366
01:07:10,147 --> 01:07:11,707
Speaker 10: down at cdill's father a couple of times when he

1367
01:07:11,867 --> 01:07:14,307
Speaker 10: was age out seventy eighteen. He was the captain of

1368
01:07:14,347 --> 01:07:17,227
Speaker 10: that Phoenix reserve team slash youth team or whatever they

1369
01:07:17,307 --> 01:07:18,987
Speaker 10: do that play in the National League and he was

1370
01:07:19,027 --> 01:07:21,307
Speaker 10: a fantastic Ilways thought he's a fantastic player. But look,

1371
01:07:21,347 --> 01:07:23,987
Speaker 10: he got a great goal there and he's one of

1372
01:07:24,067 --> 01:07:26,307
Speaker 10: my favorite players that the game today, I think has

1373
01:07:26,387 --> 01:07:28,787
Speaker 10: been very exciting, and the fact that the fans that

1374
01:07:28,867 --> 01:07:31,627
Speaker 10: I'm not going to the game myself. I will be

1375
01:07:31,747 --> 01:07:33,547
Speaker 10: gone eventually, but at the moment there's a lot of

1376
01:07:33,587 --> 01:07:34,307
Speaker 10: Johnny come lately.

1377
01:07:34,307 --> 01:07:34,867
Speaker 15: He's that not.

1378
01:07:34,987 --> 01:07:37,467
Speaker 10: Hardcore football fans, it has to be said, and they're

1379
01:07:37,587 --> 01:07:39,987
Speaker 10: enjoying the event, their event watchers, and good on them

1380
01:07:40,027 --> 01:07:42,307
Speaker 10: for getting out. It's a nice day anyway, so why

1381
01:07:42,387 --> 01:07:43,627
Speaker 10: not get out and do it. But as a game,

1382
01:07:43,787 --> 01:07:46,027
Speaker 10: as the season goes on, I think that will veer

1383
01:07:46,107 --> 01:07:48,787
Speaker 10: off to about ten thy eleven, twelve thousand, and that's

1384
01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:51,187
Speaker 10: when those are the sort of games I'll more than

1385
01:07:51,307 --> 01:07:52,987
Speaker 10: likely be shooting up there because that's where you get

1386
01:07:52,987 --> 01:07:55,307
Speaker 10: hardcore football fans showing up. But look, it's going to

1387
01:07:55,347 --> 01:07:58,027
Speaker 10: be a fantastic game. I really really do think it's

1388
01:07:58,027 --> 01:07:59,947
Speaker 10: going to be close. I mean, I felt so sorry

1389
01:08:00,027 --> 01:08:02,747
Speaker 10: for that Phoenix keeper when he made those mistakes in

1390
01:08:02,787 --> 01:08:05,067
Speaker 10: the first game. But having said that, the kid has

1391
01:08:05,107 --> 01:08:07,987
Speaker 10: come back and played some Really he's solid football end

1392
01:08:08,067 --> 01:08:10,387
Speaker 10: goal for the Phoenix, so he's looking like he might

1393
01:08:10,427 --> 01:08:15,147
Speaker 10: actually be a real good signing. And Italiano would never

1394
01:08:15,227 --> 01:08:17,627
Speaker 10: have criticized him because that's the way he wants to play.

1395
01:08:17,627 --> 01:08:18,867
Speaker 10: He wants to play out from the back.

1396
01:08:19,027 --> 01:08:19,187
Speaker 8: Yep.

1397
01:08:19,947 --> 01:08:22,307
Speaker 10: On the other hand, though, I have a look at

1398
01:08:22,667 --> 01:08:24,427
Speaker 10: the way all can play, and I think a lot

1399
01:08:24,507 --> 01:08:26,947
Speaker 10: of older, more experienced football fans like that style of

1400
01:08:27,027 --> 01:08:29,547
Speaker 10: play where they get rid of it. If they're in

1401
01:08:29,627 --> 01:08:32,387
Speaker 10: trouble in a dodgy area anywhere near the box a

1402
01:08:32,427 --> 01:08:35,787
Speaker 10: six yard box, they send it along and whilst Poulsen

1403
01:08:35,827 --> 01:08:38,827
Speaker 10: hasn't any goals in this year, the defense in front

1404
01:08:38,867 --> 01:08:41,227
Speaker 10: of him has been so well protecting him and the

1405
01:08:41,307 --> 01:08:43,507
Speaker 10: says that he had to make, he's got two hands

1406
01:08:43,547 --> 01:08:45,867
Speaker 10: to it. You would have expected him to a goalkeeper

1407
01:08:45,907 --> 01:08:48,147
Speaker 10: of his quality to have made those says. But I

1408
01:08:48,187 --> 01:08:50,747
Speaker 10: think going forward they don't normally dominate possession. They did

1409
01:08:50,787 --> 01:08:53,187
Speaker 10: in the last game where they had to. I mean

1410
01:08:53,227 --> 01:08:55,947
Speaker 10: they had to come late, but most of the time

1411
01:08:55,987 --> 01:08:58,267
Speaker 10: they haven't. They sat back into their shell to let

1412
01:08:58,307 --> 01:09:00,227
Speaker 10: the team come out them, and they're fed off mistakes

1413
01:09:00,267 --> 01:09:03,107
Speaker 10: and they've broken and they've broke them with real purpose

1414
01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:06,107
Speaker 10: down either side. So I think that's once again how

1415
01:09:06,147 --> 01:09:08,267
Speaker 10: they play. For the contrast between the two teams, the

1416
01:09:08,347 --> 01:09:10,907
Speaker 10: two styles of teams, it couldn't be any more different

1417
01:09:11,027 --> 01:09:13,627
Speaker 10: from me, and I think they fit each other quite well.

1418
01:09:13,707 --> 01:09:15,307
Speaker 10: So I think it's going to be a classic contest

1419
01:09:15,347 --> 01:09:19,387
Speaker 10: of counter attack and counter attack, possession and feeding a

1420
01:09:19,387 --> 01:09:21,347
Speaker 10: little bit off the scraps. But I think Auckland liked

1421
01:09:21,387 --> 01:09:23,027
Speaker 10: to play that way and I think the Phoenix liked

1422
01:09:23,067 --> 01:09:25,347
Speaker 10: to play that way. So at the end of the day, look,

1423
01:09:25,427 --> 01:09:28,587
Speaker 10: it's all set up because I'm born and bred in Auckland.

1424
01:09:28,867 --> 01:09:30,267
Speaker 10: I'll left us say I think Auckland by.

1425
01:09:30,227 --> 01:09:30,667
Speaker 8: The odd goal.

1426
01:09:30,947 --> 01:09:31,667
Speaker 3: Good on you, Derek.

1427
01:09:31,707 --> 01:09:34,587
Speaker 4: Always enjoyed chatting to you mate, Love your analysis of

1428
01:09:34,707 --> 01:09:37,907
Speaker 4: the beautiful game. So yeah, one nil to Auckland for Derek,

1429
01:09:38,267 --> 01:09:40,547
Speaker 4: one nil to the Phoenix for Roy. Before that, you

1430
01:09:40,627 --> 01:09:43,027
Speaker 4: can text your prediction through if you like. Debra says,

1431
01:09:43,027 --> 01:09:45,267
Speaker 4: pinting my prediction for this game this afternoon, a goal

1432
01:09:45,387 --> 01:09:49,027
Speaker 4: will be scored against Auckland again, stopping short Deborah of

1433
01:09:49,067 --> 01:09:51,227
Speaker 4: saying that it will be a winning goal. But you

1434
01:09:51,347 --> 01:09:55,307
Speaker 4: think that long streak of keeping clean sheets might end

1435
01:09:55,387 --> 01:09:57,827
Speaker 4: this afternoon? Ken says, I can't wait. Going to be

1436
01:09:57,907 --> 01:10:01,667
Speaker 4: fascinating to see the tactical approach chief e v Corrika

1437
01:10:02,067 --> 01:10:04,587
Speaker 4: costed a score first for the next two late goals

1438
01:10:04,627 --> 01:10:06,907
Speaker 4: for Auckland to win it two to one either way.

1439
01:10:06,987 --> 01:10:09,947
Speaker 4: Brilliant for football in New Zealand, and especially as my

1440
01:10:10,027 --> 01:10:12,387
Speaker 4: teenage daughter is back for her second straight match and

1441
01:10:12,587 --> 01:10:15,627
Speaker 4: absolutely loving it. Good stuff, Ken, Look, the crowds have

1442
01:10:15,747 --> 01:10:20,947
Speaker 4: been outstanding. Thirteen thousand in the rain. Last week was

1443
01:10:20,987 --> 01:10:25,147
Speaker 4: a terrible day against a team that you know, Newcastle,

1444
01:10:25,387 --> 01:10:29,747
Speaker 4: you know they're not exactly a glamour side. Greeg says

1445
01:10:29,787 --> 01:10:32,147
Speaker 4: the proof will be when and Falkland start to lose,

1446
01:10:32,187 --> 01:10:33,307
Speaker 4: we'll see how many come along.

1447
01:10:33,387 --> 01:10:33,547
Speaker 3: Then.

1448
01:10:34,787 --> 01:10:36,747
Speaker 4: It's a really interesting point. You look at the Warriors

1449
01:10:36,827 --> 01:10:38,867
Speaker 4: last season and I know it's very different from Auckland FC.

1450
01:10:38,987 --> 01:10:42,667
Speaker 4: They've only been around for this is only their sixth

1451
01:10:42,787 --> 01:10:45,467
Speaker 4: game ever. The Warrior has been around since nineteen ninety five.

1452
01:10:45,547 --> 01:10:48,547
Speaker 4: But last year, remember every Warriors game was a sellout

1453
01:10:48,667 --> 01:10:52,707
Speaker 4: even though they weren't winning. They had discovered the secret

1454
01:10:52,827 --> 01:10:56,427
Speaker 4: source of people coming along regardless of the result.

1455
01:10:56,827 --> 01:10:58,787
Speaker 3: And that has to be more than.

1456
01:10:58,747 --> 01:11:01,587
Speaker 4: What happens on the grass, and that has to be

1457
01:11:01,747 --> 01:11:04,387
Speaker 4: in the thinking of every professional sports team because the

1458
01:11:04,507 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 4: nature of professional sport at any level is you are

1459
01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:10,307
Speaker 4: going to lose, you are going to go through peaks

1460
01:11:10,347 --> 01:11:13,867
Speaker 4: and troughs. You can't just rely on the team winning

1461
01:11:13,907 --> 01:11:16,787
Speaker 4: on the field and therefore people turning up. There has

1462
01:11:16,867 --> 01:11:18,907
Speaker 4: to be more to it, and Derek alluded to it

1463
01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:21,427
Speaker 4: there that a lot of people initially anyway are coming

1464
01:11:21,467 --> 01:11:23,827
Speaker 4: along because of the event because people in Auckland have

1465
01:11:23,907 --> 01:11:26,627
Speaker 4: been staffd of top level football for so long. Now

1466
01:11:26,707 --> 01:11:28,827
Speaker 4: that it's back and as a bonus, the team is

1467
01:11:28,867 --> 01:11:32,067
Speaker 4: playing well, you know, they're turning up. I think the

1468
01:11:32,107 --> 01:11:35,307
Speaker 4: team's done excellent job of connecting with its community. They've

1469
01:11:35,347 --> 01:11:37,027
Speaker 4: said right from the start they want to get out

1470
01:11:37,107 --> 01:11:40,067
Speaker 4: and get in amongst the football and community of Auckland.

1471
01:11:40,107 --> 01:11:41,587
Speaker 4: I think they've done that from what I can see

1472
01:11:41,587 --> 01:11:45,107
Speaker 4: on their social media and anecdotally, and the crowds have

1473
01:11:45,187 --> 01:11:47,707
Speaker 4: turned up. And if they keep on winning then they'll

1474
01:11:47,747 --> 01:11:51,107
Speaker 4: keep turning up. This afternoon, like I say, twenty six

1475
01:11:51,187 --> 01:11:54,907
Speaker 4: thousand people turning up, it's a mention before tickets on

1476
01:11:54,987 --> 01:11:57,267
Speaker 4: trade me for three and four hundred dollars for a

1477
01:11:57,387 --> 01:12:02,147
Speaker 4: regular season match between two New Zealand football sides. Never

1478
01:12:02,187 --> 01:12:05,507
Speaker 4: thought i'd see the day one. Let's get a breakaway

1479
01:12:05,507 --> 01:12:07,787
Speaker 4: when we come back. We'res the Tasman Adam Peacock in

1480
01:12:07,907 --> 01:12:08,867
Speaker 4: his regulars lot.

1481
01:12:09,627 --> 01:12:13,507
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason

1482
01:12:13,547 --> 01:12:14,627
Speaker 2: Fine and GJ.

1483
01:12:14,867 --> 01:12:18,387
Speaker 1: Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Dogs and.

1484
01:12:18,507 --> 01:12:21,427
Speaker 4: Be coming out sixteen away from two. Big part of

1485
01:12:21,467 --> 01:12:24,667
Speaker 4: our Saturdays is Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent who joins

1486
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:27,747
Speaker 4: US now with Sporting Matters from that side of the ditch.

1487
01:12:28,027 --> 01:12:30,707
Speaker 4: And I'm going to start with the cricket Second Test

1488
01:12:30,987 --> 01:12:34,667
Speaker 4: Australia the India in adelaide a pink ball Test Day

1489
01:12:34,747 --> 01:12:37,107
Speaker 4: Night Test before we talk about what happened on Day

1490
01:12:37,147 --> 01:12:38,227
Speaker 4: one and Night one.

1491
01:12:38,307 --> 01:12:40,027
Speaker 3: Of you A fan of you, a fan of the

1492
01:12:40,107 --> 01:12:40,787
Speaker 3: pink ball tests.

1493
01:12:41,787 --> 01:12:45,267
Speaker 15: Yeah, one one series, I reckon Piney. I wouldn't like

1494
01:12:45,307 --> 01:12:47,827
Speaker 15: to see two in a best of five series or

1495
01:12:48,587 --> 01:12:51,267
Speaker 15: two in a best of three. I think it kind

1496
01:12:51,307 --> 01:12:53,787
Speaker 15: of just has that element where yes, it's good and

1497
01:12:53,827 --> 01:12:56,827
Speaker 15: it's still very much Test cricket that it brings about

1498
01:12:56,867 --> 01:12:59,827
Speaker 15: a variable and that's what Test credit should always be.

1499
01:13:00,067 --> 01:13:03,707
Speaker 15: Whatever the venue, there should be subtle variables every time

1500
01:13:03,747 --> 01:13:06,827
Speaker 15: you play somewhere else, because if it was the product

1501
01:13:06,907 --> 01:13:09,987
Speaker 15: on the same wickets with the same people, it kind

1502
01:13:10,027 --> 01:13:13,147
Speaker 15: of get a bit stale. So now, magnificent day yesterday

1503
01:13:13,227 --> 01:13:15,947
Speaker 15: and a really good one for Australia. We saw eleven

1504
01:13:16,027 --> 01:13:18,427
Speaker 15: wickets four. I'll be surprised as this goes into day

1505
01:13:18,507 --> 01:13:20,147
Speaker 15: four this Test. I think things are going to happen

1506
01:13:20,147 --> 01:13:22,507
Speaker 15: pretty quickly, but very much Australia's day.

1507
01:13:22,627 --> 01:13:25,547
Speaker 4: Indeed, Yeah, Mitchell Stark will be lobbying for more pink

1508
01:13:25,627 --> 01:13:28,387
Speaker 4: ball tests. Six for forty eight India all out one

1509
01:13:28,387 --> 01:13:31,307
Speaker 4: to eighty Australia eighty for one. It stumps a really

1510
01:13:31,347 --> 01:13:34,707
Speaker 4: good day and night's work for Australia. What do you

1511
01:13:34,747 --> 01:13:35,467
Speaker 4: predict for day two?

1512
01:13:37,747 --> 01:13:40,947
Speaker 15: Everyone says that the once the ball gets about forty

1513
01:13:40,987 --> 01:13:42,747
Speaker 15: hour years old, which is I think it's around the

1514
01:13:42,827 --> 01:13:45,307
Speaker 15: mark now, then it gets a bit softer and if

1515
01:13:45,347 --> 01:13:47,427
Speaker 15: you're bowling in that first session, you don't get a

1516
01:13:47,467 --> 01:13:50,307
Speaker 15: little love through the air if the balls are get old.

1517
01:13:50,427 --> 01:13:53,627
Speaker 15: So Australia, it's a massive, massive session to start for

1518
01:13:53,627 --> 01:13:56,227
Speaker 15: Australia to push on. If they can't get away from

1519
01:13:56,307 --> 01:13:59,067
Speaker 15: India in terms of getting setting themselves up to get

1520
01:13:59,067 --> 01:14:01,107
Speaker 15: to their total of one hundred and eighty, it's maybe

1521
01:14:01,187 --> 01:14:03,827
Speaker 15: two or three down. If they're five or six down

1522
01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:05,867
Speaker 15: and things happen quickly with the second new ball will

1523
01:14:05,907 --> 01:14:09,587
Speaker 15: then then it's fifty to fifty. Again, that's up to

1524
01:14:09,627 --> 01:14:10,947
Speaker 15: India what they can do with the bat, and they

1525
01:14:10,987 --> 01:14:13,627
Speaker 15: showed him the second meeting in Perth they can readjust

1526
01:14:13,747 --> 01:14:17,427
Speaker 15: quickly from a first innings disappointment. So yeah, I'm not

1527
01:14:17,507 --> 01:14:19,227
Speaker 15: pull under either way. I'm just saying I'm happy for

1528
01:14:19,307 --> 01:14:21,427
Speaker 15: Australia and really happy for Mit. Stark is a great

1529
01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:25,467
Speaker 15: guy and bold really well in Perth without reward. Sometimes

1530
01:14:25,667 --> 01:14:26,947
Speaker 15: he's got his reward yesterday.

1531
01:14:27,147 --> 01:14:28,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, he don't have to prove anything.

1532
01:14:28,427 --> 01:14:29,907
Speaker 4: But there's a couple of guys in that team who

1533
01:14:30,027 --> 01:14:32,347
Speaker 4: probably do feel as though they've got a bit to

1534
01:14:32,467 --> 01:14:34,507
Speaker 4: prove and a bit to play for. Manus Labashane is

1535
01:14:34,547 --> 01:14:36,787
Speaker 4: one of them. He's a fascinating character, isn't he. I

1536
01:14:36,947 --> 01:14:39,267
Speaker 4: was watching a bit of a bat last night. How

1537
01:14:39,347 --> 01:14:42,107
Speaker 4: much pressure do you think he's under for his test spot?

1538
01:14:42,787 --> 01:14:46,467
Speaker 15: I a guy like Marnus who loves cricket that much. No,

1539
01:14:46,787 --> 01:14:49,227
Speaker 15: there is no greater pressure than what he's putting on

1540
01:14:49,347 --> 01:14:53,027
Speaker 15: himself to try and perform. He's not really paying too

1541
01:14:53,107 --> 01:14:56,667
Speaker 15: much attention to opinion pieces and as it does, it

1542
01:14:56,747 --> 01:14:58,947
Speaker 15: goes with the territory. I scratched my I had a

1543
01:14:58,987 --> 01:15:02,987
Speaker 15: bit Test cricketers when they go, oh, you blokes a

1544
01:15:03,067 --> 01:15:05,227
Speaker 15: bag iness of this, that and the other, it's like, no,

1545
01:15:06,427 --> 01:15:09,387
Speaker 15: the whole country loves test cricket, or a lot of

1546
01:15:09,427 --> 01:15:11,307
Speaker 15: people do love Test cricket. So there is going to

1547
01:15:11,307 --> 01:15:13,747
Speaker 15: be an element of criticism when things aren't coming well.

1548
01:15:13,827 --> 01:15:14,907
Speaker 10: It's just part of it.

1549
01:15:16,027 --> 01:15:18,707
Speaker 15: But Marcus hasn't said anything. He hasn't said anything like that.

1550
01:15:18,827 --> 01:15:20,467
Speaker 15: It's all the pressure on himself and he played really

1551
01:15:20,507 --> 01:15:22,827
Speaker 15: well like he played himself into his innings last night.

1552
01:15:23,787 --> 01:15:26,107
Speaker 15: They were very very tirpy all of a sudden India

1553
01:15:26,147 --> 01:15:28,627
Speaker 15: when Marners came to the crease. But he did well

1554
01:15:28,707 --> 01:15:31,827
Speaker 15: to survive that period and then look to consolidate once

1555
01:15:31,867 --> 01:15:33,067
Speaker 15: he was in all right, Well.

1556
01:15:32,987 --> 01:15:35,107
Speaker 4: Look forward to seeing how Day two and Night two

1557
01:15:35,467 --> 01:15:37,547
Speaker 4: play out other matters around on your side of the testament,

1558
01:15:37,627 --> 01:15:41,827
Speaker 4: Laurie Daily is new South Wales Blues state of origin coach.

1559
01:15:41,907 --> 01:15:42,187
Speaker 3: Again.

1560
01:15:42,627 --> 01:15:45,307
Speaker 4: He did this job between twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen,

1561
01:15:45,387 --> 01:15:48,987
Speaker 4: not with great success, just six wins from the fifteen games.

1562
01:15:49,027 --> 01:15:52,587
Speaker 3: He oversaw. What was the reaction to this appointment or reappointment?

1563
01:15:53,347 --> 01:15:57,307
Speaker 15: Yeah, in some course as a head scratcher because he's

1564
01:15:57,347 --> 01:15:59,587
Speaker 15: been there and you mentioned the record there only one

1565
01:15:59,667 --> 01:16:03,227
Speaker 15: series win in twenty fourteen. But then the fruit side

1566
01:16:03,347 --> 01:16:07,947
Speaker 15: is and the Daily supporters, well he was up against

1567
01:16:07,947 --> 01:16:11,867
Speaker 15: the greatest Thorage inside of all time with slador Kronk Smith,

1568
01:16:12,107 --> 01:16:12,867
Speaker 15: English etc.

1569
01:16:13,227 --> 01:16:13,427
Speaker 8: Etc.

1570
01:16:14,027 --> 01:16:16,667
Speaker 15: And to get a series win against that mob was

1571
01:16:17,267 --> 01:16:19,707
Speaker 15: bordering on a miracle. Like all those players are just

1572
01:16:19,787 --> 01:16:22,907
Speaker 15: mentioned ag or either in or going into the hall

1573
01:16:22,947 --> 01:16:26,907
Speaker 15: of Fame, so he's up against it was now New

1574
01:16:26,947 --> 01:16:29,187
Speaker 15: South Wales have got a really good side. I'm not

1575
01:16:29,227 --> 01:16:31,307
Speaker 15: saying they've got a team full of Hall of famers,

1576
01:16:31,387 --> 01:16:34,867
Speaker 15: but they've got guys who won four Premierships, Pendrithy Clearing,

1577
01:16:34,987 --> 01:16:37,907
Speaker 15: Yo Edwards all those guys. So yeah, he's got a

1578
01:16:37,947 --> 01:16:41,787
Speaker 15: massive opportunity. I see his role more of a manager

1579
01:16:41,947 --> 01:16:44,147
Speaker 15: if he liked and then that the actual coaching and

1580
01:16:44,227 --> 01:16:47,787
Speaker 15: tactical input comes from his assistance. So I don't mind

1581
01:16:47,827 --> 01:16:51,107
Speaker 15: it because he's such a great guy. And it wasn't

1582
01:16:51,147 --> 01:16:53,627
Speaker 15: as if there were thirteen candidates banging down the door.

1583
01:16:53,987 --> 01:16:56,147
Speaker 15: It was either him or Matt King, the former Roosters

1584
01:16:56,187 --> 01:16:56,907
Speaker 15: and storm Center.

1585
01:16:57,027 --> 01:16:59,187
Speaker 13: So yeah, they gave it the loss all right to

1586
01:16:59,747 --> 01:17:00,387
Speaker 13: the Matilda's.

1587
01:17:00,827 --> 01:17:04,227
Speaker 4: They had one more game I think even against Chinese Taipeiday.

1588
01:17:04,307 --> 01:17:07,267
Speaker 4: Back to back games against Brazil, well both of them

1589
01:17:07,307 --> 01:17:10,507
Speaker 4: were defeats, which was a surprise to me. What's been

1590
01:17:10,547 --> 01:17:12,907
Speaker 4: made of back to back losses by the Matildas.

1591
01:17:13,467 --> 01:17:16,987
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're never ending international break for the Matilda's. What

1592
01:17:17,147 --> 01:17:20,467
Speaker 15: they've done they kind of squaed a bit. They've chosen

1593
01:17:20,667 --> 01:17:26,107
Speaker 15: very much like a squad filling line up for Chinese Taipei.

1594
01:17:26,147 --> 01:17:27,947
Speaker 15: There's two games were midway of that they won the

1595
01:17:28,027 --> 01:17:30,627
Speaker 15: other night in Melbourne, the first game against Chinese Taipei

1596
01:17:30,707 --> 01:17:34,227
Speaker 15: and then the first the first team is if you like,

1597
01:17:34,267 --> 01:17:36,867
Speaker 15: played against Brazil. Didn't quite go their way. Look again

1598
01:17:37,107 --> 01:17:41,267
Speaker 15: without Steph Catley, little Nigel Mary Fowl wasn't his and

1599
01:17:41,427 --> 01:17:43,507
Speaker 15: curse still coming back. So some of our best, but

1600
01:17:44,107 --> 01:17:48,107
Speaker 15: it does show that the world, the world is evolving

1601
01:17:48,187 --> 01:17:52,187
Speaker 15: in women's football and Brazil played this dynamic counter attacking

1602
01:17:52,307 --> 01:17:54,947
Speaker 15: game and that they're hard to stop, specially in transition,

1603
01:17:54,987 --> 01:17:56,707
Speaker 15: a lot of power, a lot of pace, and we

1604
01:17:56,747 --> 01:18:00,227
Speaker 15: couldn't deal with it in big moments. So that's the

1605
01:18:00,347 --> 01:18:03,147
Speaker 15: task for the next manager. Tom Somana, who you know

1606
01:18:03,947 --> 01:18:07,267
Speaker 15: from his time with New Zealand. He has said he's

1607
01:18:07,307 --> 01:18:09,427
Speaker 15: not taking a full time job. He's very much the interim.

1608
01:18:09,547 --> 01:18:11,867
Speaker 15: So now it's over to FA to see who's going

1609
01:18:11,947 --> 01:18:14,307
Speaker 15: to manage this team and take them forward because there's

1610
01:18:14,347 --> 01:18:15,907
Speaker 15: a lot to do in a short amount of time.

1611
01:18:15,907 --> 01:18:17,547
Speaker 15: All of a sudden, so the Asian Cups around the

1612
01:18:17,587 --> 01:18:19,787
Speaker 15: corner and then after that it's another World Cup and

1613
01:18:19,907 --> 01:18:21,547
Speaker 15: I'd be very surprised at this stage.

1614
01:18:21,907 --> 01:18:22,387
Speaker 8: Happy to be.

1615
01:18:22,467 --> 01:18:24,747
Speaker 15: Proven wrong, very surprised that the until has come up

1616
01:18:24,747 --> 01:18:26,827
Speaker 15: with another semi final appearance at a World Cup based

1617
01:18:26,867 --> 01:18:27,787
Speaker 15: on what I'm saying.

1618
01:18:27,987 --> 01:18:29,467
Speaker 3: All right, interesting times ahead.

1619
01:18:29,627 --> 01:18:31,307
Speaker 4: Just before you go staying with football, we've got a

1620
01:18:31,387 --> 01:18:34,027
Speaker 4: key we derby over the side of the Tasman this

1621
01:18:34,187 --> 01:18:36,427
Speaker 4: afternoon in just a couple of hours actually, Auckland FC,

1622
01:18:36,907 --> 01:18:40,427
Speaker 4: Wellington Phoenix. I'm not sure whether you've been keeping an

1623
01:18:40,427 --> 01:18:42,627
Speaker 4: eye on our two A League teams got to pick

1624
01:18:42,667 --> 01:18:42,867
Speaker 4: for us.

1625
01:18:43,707 --> 01:18:45,667
Speaker 15: Yeah, well it's hard to go past it all done

1626
01:18:45,707 --> 01:18:49,027
Speaker 15: and Steve Corriker, it's an amazing way to respond to

1627
01:18:49,787 --> 01:18:52,587
Speaker 15: give in being shown the door at Sydney where he's

1628
01:18:52,587 --> 01:18:54,307
Speaker 15: a club legend and come up with that. But I

1629
01:18:54,387 --> 01:18:56,467
Speaker 15: do know how much work and you know as well

1630
01:18:56,507 --> 01:18:59,107
Speaker 15: finding how much work Aukland FC you've done behind the scenes.

1631
01:18:59,147 --> 01:19:01,467
Speaker 15: I've got Terry mc flinn involved, another form of Sydney

1632
01:19:01,547 --> 01:19:05,507
Speaker 15: FC person and the right front off for staff to

1633
01:19:05,627 --> 01:19:07,307
Speaker 15: kind of get to going in the right direction to

1634
01:19:07,347 --> 01:19:08,307
Speaker 15: get the fans through the gate.

1635
01:19:08,427 --> 01:19:09,547
Speaker 8: And they've done so well.

1636
01:19:09,867 --> 01:19:11,627
Speaker 15: In saying all that, I've just got a feeling in

1637
01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:13,187
Speaker 15: the game like this that well I can pick.

1638
01:19:13,027 --> 01:19:13,707
Speaker 6: Cut up with something.

1639
01:19:13,947 --> 01:19:16,787
Speaker 15: So they've got the weapons don't they. So yeah, I'll go,

1640
01:19:17,107 --> 01:19:19,547
Speaker 15: I'll go the upset, I'll go. I'll go well into

1641
01:19:19,667 --> 01:19:21,587
Speaker 15: the tipe one something like two to one. But what

1642
01:19:21,707 --> 01:19:23,067
Speaker 15: I do know is going to be a great occasion.

1643
01:19:23,147 --> 01:19:25,067
Speaker 15: I'm fortunately going to be on a golf course or

1644
01:19:25,147 --> 01:19:28,627
Speaker 15: fortunately for me, unfortunately for my football viewing habits, but

1645
01:19:29,107 --> 01:19:31,827
Speaker 15: I will be catching catching up with it because this

1646
01:19:32,027 --> 01:19:33,867
Speaker 15: is exactly what the A League needs. It's what it's

1647
01:19:34,027 --> 01:19:36,707
Speaker 15: had over this side of the country, this side of

1648
01:19:36,747 --> 01:19:39,387
Speaker 15: the Tasman not that long ago. It seems to have

1649
01:19:39,547 --> 01:19:41,947
Speaker 15: just warphed it away a little with Derby's and the

1650
01:19:42,187 --> 01:19:45,547
Speaker 15: like not selling out. This hopefully gives it a bit

1651
01:19:45,587 --> 01:19:47,427
Speaker 15: more pop and yeah, great occasion.

1652
01:19:47,707 --> 01:19:48,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll keep an eye on it for you,

1653
01:19:49,107 --> 01:19:50,947
Speaker 3: Adam shall I'll keep an eye on it over here.

1654
01:19:51,587 --> 01:19:53,387
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, if you can give me a light up.

1655
01:19:54,067 --> 01:19:56,667
Speaker 15: You're not very busy during the game, so because a

1656
01:19:56,707 --> 01:19:58,507
Speaker 15: couple of what that message is, what's going on, they'll

1657
01:19:58,547 --> 01:19:58,787
Speaker 15: be good.

1658
01:19:59,227 --> 01:20:01,027
Speaker 3: Good on you make great to ten us always. We'll

1659
01:20:01,027 --> 01:20:02,307
Speaker 3: do it again next s howurday.

1660
01:20:02,427 --> 01:20:03,827
Speaker 15: Have a good call, Thanks Bonnie.

1661
01:20:03,587 --> 01:20:04,787
Speaker 3: Now, thank you Adam. Adam Peacock.

1662
01:20:04,827 --> 01:20:09,067
Speaker 4: There our Australian correspondent around this time every Saturday afternoon,

1663
01:20:09,147 --> 01:20:10,987
Speaker 4: nine away from two. They're back out there at the

1664
01:20:11,027 --> 01:20:14,187
Speaker 4: Basemin Reserve as England continued their second innings and have

1665
01:20:14,307 --> 01:20:18,987
Speaker 4: continued along fairly safely since the lunch adjournment. They're through

1666
01:20:19,067 --> 01:20:22,067
Speaker 4: to one hundred and no exactly one hundred, one hundred

1667
01:20:22,107 --> 01:20:24,307
Speaker 4: for one in their second innings. That's a lead of

1668
01:20:24,307 --> 01:20:27,587
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty five runs at the crease. Ben

1669
01:20:27,667 --> 01:20:31,107
Speaker 4: Duckett forty two unbeaten and Jacob Bethel who's very quickly

1670
01:20:31,147 --> 01:20:33,307
Speaker 4: got through to forty nine not out of fifty one balls.

1671
01:20:33,387 --> 01:20:37,387
Speaker 4: This young number three. I don't think he's ever got

1672
01:20:37,427 --> 01:20:40,467
Speaker 4: a first class hundred. Jacob Bethel, he was sort of

1673
01:20:40,547 --> 01:20:43,147
Speaker 4: brought in last week against expectation to bat at number

1674
01:20:43,627 --> 01:20:45,907
Speaker 4: three down in christ Church's got a fifty to nine

1675
01:20:45,907 --> 01:20:47,987
Speaker 4: in the second innings as England won that one by

1676
01:20:48,027 --> 01:20:51,107
Speaker 4: eight wickets, approaching his second Test fifty hour and just

1677
01:20:51,187 --> 01:20:54,947
Speaker 4: as second Test. So another player from England who seems

1678
01:20:54,987 --> 01:20:58,427
Speaker 4: to be flourishing meantime, and amongst it all Brandon mccullums

1679
01:20:58,467 --> 01:21:00,427
Speaker 4: just sitting up on the balcony watching it all play out.

1680
01:21:00,507 --> 01:21:02,907
Speaker 4: He never has a notebook, he never has a phone,

1681
01:21:03,267 --> 01:21:05,187
Speaker 4: he never has an iPad. He never seems to have

1682
01:21:05,267 --> 01:21:08,267
Speaker 4: anything to take notes with. He just sits there and

1683
01:21:08,347 --> 01:21:11,987
Speaker 4: watches the cricket. What a what A what a coach

1684
01:21:12,027 --> 01:21:13,667
Speaker 4: he's been and he's about to take over as their

1685
01:21:13,667 --> 01:21:17,387
Speaker 4: white ball coach as well. Inducted into the New Zealand

1686
01:21:17,387 --> 01:21:20,467
Speaker 4: Cricket Hall of Fame last week or in the week

1687
01:21:20,507 --> 01:21:23,667
Speaker 4: has been. Got a quick chat with Brendan mcallum after

1688
01:21:23,747 --> 01:21:25,387
Speaker 4: that happened, actually, so I'll play that for you after

1689
01:21:25,427 --> 01:21:28,507
Speaker 4: two o'clock, seven and a half away from two newstalks.

1690
01:21:28,107 --> 01:21:32,267
Speaker 1: EB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1691
01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:34,947
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Vive.

1692
01:21:35,067 --> 01:21:38,147
Speaker 2: They call eight hundred and eighty eight News Talk ZEDB.

1693
01:21:38,347 --> 01:21:41,067
Speaker 4: Coming up four away from two after two o'clock. In

1694
01:21:41,107 --> 01:21:43,067
Speaker 4: case you missed it, Ana Gramaldi is on the show

1695
01:21:43,147 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 4: as well. Paralympic gold medalist in the two hundred meters

1696
01:21:47,027 --> 01:21:49,307
Speaker 4: in Paris in the last couple of months. She's going

1697
01:21:49,347 --> 01:21:50,987
Speaker 4: to join us to reflect on that. We'll keep you

1698
01:21:51,067 --> 01:21:53,467
Speaker 4: up to date with the cricket as well planket Shield.

1699
01:21:53,547 --> 01:21:55,267
Speaker 4: Just before we go to the news. Three games happening

1700
01:21:55,307 --> 01:21:58,627
Speaker 4: around the place in Mount Monganui, Northern District's one hundred

1701
01:21:58,667 --> 01:22:02,467
Speaker 4: and eleven for three batting first against cd Otago all

1702
01:22:02,547 --> 01:22:05,347
Speaker 4: out for one hundred and seventeen against Canterbury at Rangiorda,

1703
01:22:05,667 --> 01:22:09,547
Speaker 4: Zach Folks five fo for cant Canterbury and Auckland at

1704
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Speaker 4: Eden Parks out are Oval batting first against Wellington one

1705
01:22:12,067 --> 01:22:14,387
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty four for two. Shawn Soley has brought

1706
01:22:14,427 --> 01:22:16,187
Speaker 4: up his fifty. Mark Chapman's out there as well, looking

1707
01:22:16,227 --> 01:22:18,267
Speaker 4: to build on the big double one hundred he got

1708
01:22:18,347 --> 01:22:22,067
Speaker 4: last time out. So Auckland going along nicely one thirty

1709
01:22:22,067 --> 01:22:25,027
Speaker 4: four for two against Wellington and in the Test match

1710
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:26,947
Speaker 4: looks to me like Jacob Bethel might have just brought

1711
01:22:27,027 --> 01:22:29,427
Speaker 4: up as fifty. Yes, indeed he has one hundred and

1712
01:22:29,507 --> 01:22:32,427
Speaker 4: three for one. England one oh three for one in

1713
01:22:32,627 --> 01:22:33,907
Speaker 4: their second innings.

1714
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1715
01:22:38,987 --> 01:22:42,907
Speaker 1: and after fields, It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

1716
01:22:42,987 --> 01:22:47,027
Speaker 1: Payde on your home of Sports Talk.

1717
01:22:47,907 --> 01:22:50,147
Speaker 4: Hello and welcome back into the show, or welcome into

1718
01:22:50,187 --> 01:22:52,627
Speaker 4: the show. Two oh seven the time. I'm Jason Pine.

1719
01:22:52,667 --> 01:22:55,787
Speaker 4: This is Weekend Sport until three. Then the Weekend Collective

1720
01:22:56,307 --> 01:22:59,347
Speaker 4: Saturday edition with Tim Beveridge is out there.

1721
01:22:59,387 --> 01:23:00,147
Speaker 3: Beavering away.

1722
01:23:01,347 --> 01:23:03,987
Speaker 4: Well, actually that's not quite true. He is out there

1723
01:23:04,027 --> 01:23:07,667
Speaker 4: though I can see him. He's here, he's presence and correct.

1724
01:23:08,227 --> 01:23:10,027
Speaker 4: He's on the radio after three before we get to

1725
01:23:10,067 --> 01:23:12,747
Speaker 4: Tim Beveridge. Of course, another hour of sport for you.

1726
01:23:12,787 --> 01:23:14,307
Speaker 4: Will keep an eye on the base from reserve where

1727
01:23:14,307 --> 01:23:17,587
Speaker 4: England at one hundred and fifteen for one now in

1728
01:23:17,667 --> 01:23:19,907
Speaker 4: their second innings. Ben Duckett has just brought up his

1729
01:23:20,027 --> 01:23:24,787
Speaker 4: half century, So one hundred and fifteen for one England

1730
01:23:24,907 --> 01:23:27,467
Speaker 4: in their second innings. That now is a lead of

1731
01:23:27,627 --> 01:23:30,667
Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy over New Zealand after we were

1732
01:23:30,667 --> 01:23:32,627
Speaker 4: bowled out for one twenty five this morning and rather

1733
01:23:33,387 --> 01:23:38,227
Speaker 4: disappointing fashion. So what England's approach to this will be

1734
01:23:38,427 --> 01:23:41,387
Speaker 4: will be very interesting. They could, if they continue along

1735
01:23:41,507 --> 01:23:43,907
Speaker 4: this way of scoring sort of five and a half

1736
01:23:43,947 --> 01:23:47,107
Speaker 4: six and over, be four hundred clear by not much

1737
01:23:47,147 --> 01:23:53,027
Speaker 4: after tea. So would they potentially potentially consider declaring later

1738
01:23:53,107 --> 01:23:55,667
Speaker 4: on today? It seems incredible to think that the Test

1739
01:23:55,707 --> 01:23:58,387
Speaker 4: would be that far advanced on just the second day,

1740
01:23:58,467 --> 01:24:00,187
Speaker 4: but that's the way that England play their Test cricket

1741
01:24:00,227 --> 01:24:02,467
Speaker 4: these days, so we'll keep an eye on that for you. Also,

1742
01:24:02,587 --> 01:24:06,307
Speaker 4: this hour three of the inductees into New Zealand Crickets

1743
01:24:06,427 --> 01:24:10,827
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, the inaugural inductees that were unveiled on Thursday.

1744
01:24:11,227 --> 01:24:13,987
Speaker 4: We'll hear from Emily Drumm, from Debbie Hockley and from

1745
01:24:14,027 --> 01:24:17,987
Speaker 4: Brendan McCallum this time tomorrow. Incidentally, Sir Richard Hadley is

1746
01:24:18,067 --> 01:24:19,947
Speaker 4: on the show also this hour.

1747
01:24:20,027 --> 01:24:20,827
Speaker 3: We'll get you back to.

1748
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Speaker 4: The basin and we hope to catch up with the

1749
01:24:23,547 --> 01:24:27,187
Speaker 4: Barmie Army's trumpeterer. You've seen, I'm sure or heard the

1750
01:24:30,027 --> 01:24:33,987
Speaker 4: trumpet as part of the Barmie Army. They have amazing

1751
01:24:35,067 --> 01:24:37,867
Speaker 4: support wherever they go, the England cricket team and the

1752
01:24:37,947 --> 01:24:42,787
Speaker 4: trumpeterer is a bloke by the name of Simon Finch.

1753
01:24:43,427 --> 01:24:45,227
Speaker 3: We've got his number. We're going to give it a crack.

1754
01:24:45,587 --> 01:24:46,147
Speaker 3: I don't know where.

1755
01:24:46,147 --> 01:24:47,507
Speaker 4: There are ants of the phone being on the bank

1756
01:24:47,627 --> 01:24:49,867
Speaker 4: watching his team smash us to all parts.

1757
01:24:49,907 --> 01:24:52,387
Speaker 3: But you never know, you never know. Your cause and

1758
01:24:52,427 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 3: correspondents continue to be welcome.

1759
01:24:53,907 --> 01:24:56,147
Speaker 4: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine

1760
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Speaker 4: two for a text and Anna Grimaldi standing by to

1761
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Speaker 4: chat with us as well. Paralympic gold medalist in Paris

1762
01:25:03,387 --> 01:25:06,787
Speaker 4: earlier this year. But as we always do about this

1763
01:25:06,947 --> 01:25:09,507
Speaker 4: time on weekend sport, it is time to catch you

1764
01:25:09,627 --> 01:25:11,787
Speaker 4: up with some of the things perhaps that you might

1765
01:25:11,827 --> 01:25:14,147
Speaker 4: have missed, some of the things that have happened in the.

1766
01:25:14,227 --> 01:25:17,107
Speaker 3: Last little while that you know you haven't caught up with.

1767
01:25:18,107 --> 01:25:21,907
Speaker 4: We call it in casimistic Starting with Test cricket and

1768
01:25:21,907 --> 01:25:25,707
Speaker 4: Adelaide career best figures for Mitchell Stark helping give Australia

1769
01:25:25,787 --> 01:25:29,427
Speaker 4: the upper hand after Day one of the second cricket

1770
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Speaker 4: Test against India.

1771
01:25:31,467 --> 01:25:33,427
Speaker 3: Well, it's read up for a start only as far

1772
01:25:33,507 --> 01:25:38,387
Speaker 3: as mid Off had it's taken. He wanted to go

1773
01:25:38,627 --> 01:25:41,427
Speaker 3: orber that in eged was.

1774
01:25:41,507 --> 01:25:46,587
Speaker 18: Raped dendor fire enough and mid Stark gets another.

1775
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Speaker 7: Six for forty eight.

1776
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Speaker 3: Makes it career best for mid Stark and.

1777
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Speaker 10: News to see he hasn't got absolutely beautifully today India's

1778
01:25:53,667 --> 01:25:54,307
Speaker 10: resistance is.

1779
01:25:54,347 --> 01:25:57,467
Speaker 4: Auber, absolutely brilliant from Mitchell Stark. He took six for

1780
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Speaker 4: forty eight with the pink ball. India bowled out for

1781
01:26:00,427 --> 01:26:03,387
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty and there was a new meaning

1782
01:26:03,467 --> 01:26:09,787
Speaker 4: for crickets often heard bad light freight yet hello, someone's

1783
01:26:09,787 --> 01:26:12,187
Speaker 4: following his kip run electricity.

1784
01:26:11,707 --> 01:26:13,907
Speaker 3: And Adelaide's from ut today a lot of their conditions

1785
01:26:13,947 --> 01:26:16,067
Speaker 3: on it, so we love to wed.

1786
01:26:16,307 --> 01:26:17,907
Speaker 9: It's the first for me that a test matches be

1787
01:26:17,987 --> 01:26:19,227
Speaker 9: not God because the lads are gone.

1788
01:26:19,307 --> 01:26:21,947
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lights went out Adelaide oval management blaming and

1789
01:26:22,267 --> 01:26:26,747
Speaker 4: internal switching issue. After the floodlights went out, play briefly

1790
01:26:26,867 --> 01:26:30,147
Speaker 4: stopped twice in a matter of minutes during the final session.

1791
01:26:30,227 --> 01:26:34,227
Speaker 4: Only the smaller lights in the grandstands remained on. Thousands

1792
01:26:34,267 --> 01:26:37,107
Speaker 4: of spectators switched on the torches on their phones. Apparently

1793
01:26:37,347 --> 01:26:39,907
Speaker 4: Australia eighty six for one. It stumps to be already

1794
01:26:39,947 --> 01:26:43,787
Speaker 4: within one hundred runs of a first innings lead drama

1795
01:26:44,027 --> 01:26:48,747
Speaker 4: in practice for Formula Ones season ending Abu Abu Dhabi

1796
01:26:49,027 --> 01:26:50,507
Speaker 4: Grand Prix, and here.

1797
01:26:50,467 --> 01:26:53,187
Speaker 7: Is some breaking news for you. This is not good

1798
01:26:53,267 --> 01:26:54,107
Speaker 7: news for Ferrari.

1799
01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:59,587
Speaker 22: In the battle for the Constructors Championship, chols Leclair finishes

1800
01:26:59,827 --> 01:27:03,387
Speaker 22: fastest but they had to change the battery pack on

1801
01:27:03,467 --> 01:27:03,827
Speaker 22: his car.

1802
01:27:04,267 --> 01:27:06,067
Speaker 7: It's a taen place grid penalty.

1803
01:27:06,587 --> 01:27:07,787
Speaker 3: Incredible for charl Leclair.

1804
01:27:08,067 --> 01:27:12,307
Speaker 4: But Aliam Lawson twelfth fastest in practice one and eleventh

1805
01:27:12,667 --> 01:27:16,707
Speaker 4: fastest in practice two. And in Football's A League, Melbourne

1806
01:27:16,747 --> 01:27:20,027
Speaker 4: City started Round seven with a bang against Brisbane at

1807
01:27:20,067 --> 01:27:21,027
Speaker 4: SUNCRP last night.

1808
01:27:21,307 --> 01:27:28,147
Speaker 18: This is Van Massio and Steven your garcoch behids the

1809
01:27:28,347 --> 01:27:31,827
Speaker 18: I sing on the cake for Melbournt City. Stephen your

1810
01:27:31,867 --> 01:27:34,387
Speaker 18: garcavents for this third goal.

1811
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Speaker 8: Of the season.

1812
01:27:36,627 --> 01:27:40,627
Speaker 18: And city have four at SOCOD.

1813
01:27:40,747 --> 01:27:41,787
Speaker 2: You be the TMO.

1814
01:27:42,027 --> 01:27:44,427
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty to eighty

1815
01:27:44,627 --> 01:27:49,307
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's

1816
01:27:49,307 --> 01:27:51,427
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks V.

1817
01:27:52,187 --> 01:27:55,307
Speaker 4: Twelve minutes past two on Weekend Sport. It is an

1818
01:27:55,507 --> 01:27:59,387
Speaker 4: enormous pleasure to welcome back to the show. Three time Paralympian,

1819
01:27:59,747 --> 01:28:04,107
Speaker 4: three time Paralympic champion, gold medalist for New Zealand in

1820
01:28:04,227 --> 01:28:07,107
Speaker 4: the T forty seven two hundred meters in Paris this year,

1821
01:28:07,467 --> 01:28:09,627
Speaker 4: to go with bronze and the T forty seven one

1822
01:28:09,747 --> 01:28:13,147
Speaker 4: hundred meters and the back to back gold medals she

1823
01:28:13,307 --> 01:28:15,667
Speaker 4: won in the T forty seven long jump in Rio

1824
01:28:15,867 --> 01:28:19,667
Speaker 4: and Tokyo. It is, of course, Anna Grimaldi and I

1825
01:28:19,747 --> 01:28:21,387
Speaker 4: wonderful to get the chance to catch up with you

1826
01:28:21,507 --> 01:28:24,667
Speaker 4: and reflect on what happened in Paris. If someone had

1827
01:28:24,747 --> 01:28:28,227
Speaker 4: suggested to you before the Paralympic Games that you would

1828
01:28:28,227 --> 01:28:31,867
Speaker 4: win gold in the two hundred meters in an Oceania

1829
01:28:31,947 --> 01:28:34,667
Speaker 4: record of twenty four point seventy two seconds, while chopping

1830
01:28:35,147 --> 01:28:38,027
Speaker 4: over a second off your personal best.

1831
01:28:38,547 --> 01:28:40,827
Speaker 3: What would your reaction have been to that?

1832
01:28:42,187 --> 01:28:44,547
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think I'm sorry about this a line. If

1833
01:28:44,587 --> 01:28:46,907
Speaker 23: someone had seen you coming home from Paris with the gold,

1834
01:28:47,347 --> 01:28:49,627
Speaker 23: I would have said, I would have thought it was

1835
01:28:49,707 --> 01:28:52,667
Speaker 23: in the long jump, like it was not. It wasn't

1836
01:28:52,707 --> 01:28:54,587
Speaker 23: really on my radar to be winning the two hundred.

1837
01:28:54,627 --> 01:28:58,747
Speaker 23: I thought maybe we had a good shot at doing okay,

1838
01:28:59,107 --> 01:29:05,267
Speaker 23: And Yesina Sina crazy like whiplash actually because the least

1839
01:29:05,387 --> 01:29:08,107
Speaker 23: the long jump didn't go so well, and then coming

1840
01:29:08,147 --> 01:29:10,787
Speaker 23: away with sort of the goal, but like in a

1841
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:15,867
Speaker 23: completely definitely mean it was. It was incredible some things.

1842
01:29:15,907 --> 01:29:19,027
Speaker 23: I'm just blown away by the time, and that I

1843
01:29:19,147 --> 01:29:22,227
Speaker 23: was able to step up like the two races in

1844
01:29:22,307 --> 01:29:26,627
Speaker 23: the same day and run quick at both races. And yeah,

1845
01:29:26,667 --> 01:29:28,627
Speaker 23: I don't know, I'm just really proud. That's funny.

1846
01:29:29,187 --> 01:29:31,387
Speaker 3: You should be proud. It was an amazing achievement.

1847
01:29:31,467 --> 01:29:34,467
Speaker 4: Didn't you drop the two hundred from your program for

1848
01:29:34,507 --> 01:29:36,907
Speaker 4: a while after you got a fracture in your foot

1849
01:29:36,987 --> 01:29:40,187
Speaker 4: or something back in twenty seventeen, Yeah, in twenty campaign.

1850
01:29:40,227 --> 01:29:41,787
Speaker 23: I was right after where I was having a bit

1851
01:29:41,787 --> 01:29:44,787
Speaker 23: of trouble. It was my first time.

1852
01:29:45,027 --> 01:29:46,347
Speaker 5: We sort of pushed on through it.

1853
01:29:46,427 --> 01:29:49,067
Speaker 23: We had World Champs and London and I did the

1854
01:29:49,147 --> 01:29:51,947
Speaker 23: heats of the of the two hundred meters, was up

1855
01:29:52,027 --> 01:29:55,707
Speaker 23: first and I ran and I hobbled off the track.

1856
01:29:55,747 --> 01:29:59,387
Speaker 23: I couldn't even walk, and we had to withdraw from

1857
01:29:59,467 --> 01:30:01,747
Speaker 23: the two hundred finals in the one hundred and try

1858
01:30:01,787 --> 01:30:04,347
Speaker 23: and sellbadge it for the long dump. And when I

1859
01:30:04,387 --> 01:30:07,827
Speaker 23: got home, we sort of decided, like, something's got to

1860
01:30:07,867 --> 01:30:10,787
Speaker 23: given this program. There's too many things that Ben's putting

1861
01:30:10,787 --> 01:30:13,187
Speaker 23: a lot of pushure on my foot, which was flimsy,

1862
01:30:13,467 --> 01:30:16,267
Speaker 23: and found out I was actually when I got home, and.

1863
01:30:16,547 --> 01:30:18,267
Speaker 14: So yeah, I just put it on.

1864
01:30:18,747 --> 01:30:19,747
Speaker 6: I put it out of my mind.

1865
01:30:19,827 --> 01:30:23,427
Speaker 23: Actually I really liked running the two, but it just

1866
01:30:23,907 --> 01:30:26,347
Speaker 23: I had to. I had to, you know, set to

1867
01:30:26,387 --> 01:30:28,427
Speaker 23: find something to keep the program going and to get

1868
01:30:28,467 --> 01:30:31,267
Speaker 23: healthy again. And so I just actually never thought that

1869
01:30:31,427 --> 01:30:34,307
Speaker 23: even a running again. And then we thought I saw

1870
01:30:34,307 --> 01:30:37,947
Speaker 23: were the final from the stands at World Chance last

1871
01:30:38,027 --> 01:30:40,707
Speaker 23: year and miss my coach and I was like, oh,

1872
01:30:41,707 --> 01:30:44,147
Speaker 23: this race has just been ran. I just watched it.

1873
01:30:44,387 --> 01:30:47,107
Speaker 23: I think we could do that, we need to have

1874
01:30:47,227 --> 01:30:50,027
Speaker 23: a discussion about it, and he's like, oh, he already

1875
01:30:50,067 --> 01:30:51,827
Speaker 23: talked to a couple of people about maybe doing the

1876
01:30:51,867 --> 01:30:54,427
Speaker 23: two hundred a game, so we were all on the

1877
01:30:54,467 --> 01:30:58,587
Speaker 23: same page. And I think, yeah, it just felt like

1878
01:30:58,707 --> 01:31:02,547
Speaker 23: this big, full circle moment, like I finally trusted my

1879
01:31:02,667 --> 01:31:04,587
Speaker 23: body again and what it could do, and then it

1880
01:31:04,707 --> 01:31:10,547
Speaker 23: was strong and yeah, I think I entered the two hundred.

1881
01:31:10,747 --> 01:31:13,187
Speaker 23: To me, I think in Paris, you know, it was

1882
01:31:13,347 --> 01:31:17,787
Speaker 23: just a personal project to see maybe a direction we

1883
01:31:17,867 --> 01:31:20,267
Speaker 23: might want to go after the Games, and yeah, to

1884
01:31:20,307 --> 01:31:24,067
Speaker 23: have it work out so well, it's so yeah, incredible, amazing.

1885
01:31:24,547 --> 01:31:26,667
Speaker 4: So in the long jump you were fourth, just off

1886
01:31:26,707 --> 01:31:29,427
Speaker 4: the podium the event you won golden in the last

1887
01:31:29,507 --> 01:31:32,667
Speaker 4: two Games. How do you reflect on the long jump

1888
01:31:32,747 --> 01:31:33,227
Speaker 4: in Paris?

1889
01:31:34,587 --> 01:31:37,707
Speaker 23: Yeah, look, it's hard, and I think I'm still in

1890
01:31:37,867 --> 01:31:40,667
Speaker 23: the process of sort of processing it all actually, And

1891
01:31:40,747 --> 01:31:46,667
Speaker 23: I think for so long, I think if I had

1892
01:31:46,827 --> 01:31:50,587
Speaker 23: come forth in Tokyo, I think I would have that

1893
01:31:50,627 --> 01:31:54,067
Speaker 23: would have devastated me. And I think it's a big

1894
01:31:54,187 --> 01:31:56,787
Speaker 23: testament to the work we've done over the last three

1895
01:31:56,867 --> 01:32:00,307
Speaker 23: years to now be able to come away from Paris

1896
01:32:00,387 --> 01:32:04,307
Speaker 23: and go, you know, what like, I'm I'm still a

1897
01:32:04,387 --> 01:32:06,307
Speaker 23: two time Parallemic champion in the long jump.

1898
01:32:06,467 --> 01:32:07,347
Speaker 5: I'm still.

1899
01:32:08,747 --> 01:32:10,707
Speaker 23: Really great at long jump. I just had a bad

1900
01:32:10,787 --> 01:32:12,947
Speaker 23: day out there. I just couldn't get it together, and

1901
01:32:13,027 --> 01:32:15,747
Speaker 23: these days happened, and unfortunately mine was the one day

1902
01:32:15,787 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 23: and the four years. You don't want it to go wrong,

1903
01:32:17,667 --> 01:32:23,147
Speaker 23: And yeah, I'm obviously still a bit guffed, like I

1904
01:32:23,227 --> 01:32:25,307
Speaker 23: wanted to put my best foot forward there and I

1905
01:32:25,507 --> 01:32:31,667
Speaker 23: just couldn't do it. But I think it's just, yeah,

1906
01:32:31,667 --> 01:32:34,827
Speaker 23: it's been nice knowing that the work we've done around

1907
01:32:34,907 --> 01:32:39,907
Speaker 23: identity and sort of finding Anna away from the Golds

1908
01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:44,747
Speaker 23: has obvious played a big part of being able to

1909
01:32:44,827 --> 01:32:49,027
Speaker 23: recover from the four from the long jump and coming forth.

1910
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:54,227
Speaker 23: And yeah, it just makes me really proud that I

1911
01:32:54,427 --> 01:32:59,787
Speaker 23: still feel like I'm a champion, regardless of how this

1912
01:32:59,947 --> 01:33:01,907
Speaker 23: one wins. I think for so long I was worried

1913
01:33:01,947 --> 01:33:04,387
Speaker 23: if I didn't keep doing it, you know, for some reason,

1914
01:33:04,467 --> 01:33:06,907
Speaker 23: it just makes the other ones less valid. That's not

1915
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Speaker 23: true at all, And I think it's nice to have

1916
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:11,187
Speaker 23: now gone through that and really.

1917
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Speaker 3: Felt that that's awesome insight, amazing insight.

1918
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Speaker 4: Did it feel you in any way for the two

1919
01:33:18,227 --> 01:33:20,707
Speaker 4: hundred though, you know, not getting on the podium in

1920
01:33:20,707 --> 01:33:21,187
Speaker 4: the long job.

1921
01:33:22,107 --> 01:33:25,227
Speaker 23: I think I approached this campaign like every event was

1922
01:33:25,347 --> 01:33:28,547
Speaker 23: totally separate, because to me, they are all quite separate.

1923
01:33:28,667 --> 01:33:33,347
Speaker 23: Like one hundred is something I'm not still not particularly

1924
01:33:35,267 --> 01:33:37,947
Speaker 23: like confident about, but I wanted to and we've done

1925
01:33:37,987 --> 01:33:40,147
Speaker 23: a lot of work on my start and I and

1926
01:33:40,307 --> 01:33:43,627
Speaker 23: speed over the last year and a burth and the

1927
01:33:43,747 --> 01:33:46,507
Speaker 23: long jumps obviously the one I usually feel the most

1928
01:33:46,547 --> 01:33:49,147
Speaker 23: comfortable and confident, and then I just didn't enough time.

1929
01:33:49,387 --> 01:33:52,147
Speaker 23: But then that two hundred was really about exploring, well,

1930
01:33:52,187 --> 01:33:54,027
Speaker 23: what can I do, what can my body do? And

1931
01:33:54,867 --> 01:33:59,347
Speaker 23: how fast can we run? So I think I just yeah,

1932
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:03,187
Speaker 23: it was it did feel me And I think I

1933
01:34:03,307 --> 01:34:06,987
Speaker 23: actually spending at a time on social media that after

1934
01:34:07,067 --> 01:34:11,947
Speaker 23: the long jump, the morning, the evening before, the before

1935
01:34:12,027 --> 01:34:14,507
Speaker 23: the two hundred, and just saw like the amount of

1936
01:34:14,667 --> 01:34:17,867
Speaker 23: people who really shared they went out to the way

1937
01:34:17,947 --> 01:34:20,227
Speaker 23: to write a really time comment of seeing the message,

1938
01:34:20,227 --> 01:34:22,427
Speaker 23: and I wasn't actually accepting that. I sort of thought, oh,

1939
01:34:22,507 --> 01:34:24,747
Speaker 23: this was blow away so on all of like paying

1940
01:34:24,827 --> 01:34:26,987
Speaker 23: the attention, and it was really nice to know that

1941
01:34:27,307 --> 01:34:31,587
Speaker 23: people cared what I was doing and regardless of how

1942
01:34:31,627 --> 01:34:35,507
Speaker 23: well I did and I think that really feeled me

1943
01:34:35,587 --> 01:34:38,707
Speaker 23: as well, like knowing that people wanted to support me

1944
01:34:39,147 --> 01:34:41,987
Speaker 23: and me not just my achievements as well. I think

1945
01:34:42,027 --> 01:34:44,267
Speaker 23: that was a really big thing for me.

1946
01:34:45,267 --> 01:34:47,947
Speaker 4: Well, you're already achieved a place on the podium in

1947
01:34:47,987 --> 01:34:53,307
Speaker 4: the T fort a bronze pbe new Oceania record. How

1948
01:34:53,347 --> 01:34:54,667
Speaker 4: pleased were you with the one hundred?

1949
01:34:55,227 --> 01:34:55,427
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1950
01:34:55,467 --> 01:34:56,587
Speaker 23: I was very happy.

1951
01:34:56,707 --> 01:34:57,187
Speaker 11: I think.

1952
01:34:59,387 --> 01:35:02,987
Speaker 23: Before the Games, I think like these there were those

1953
01:35:03,067 --> 01:35:05,307
Speaker 23: doubts that creep in, going like, oh God, I'm not

1954
01:35:05,387 --> 01:35:07,067
Speaker 23: going to be shaped b for being, you know, and

1955
01:35:07,227 --> 01:35:10,507
Speaker 23: I want to be. And then for me, they're not

1956
01:35:10,547 --> 01:35:13,587
Speaker 23: necessarily based on anything, like they just occur, those.

1957
01:35:13,467 --> 01:35:17,587
Speaker 10: Thoughts and they're not backed up by actual facts or the.

1958
01:35:17,627 --> 01:35:20,107
Speaker 23: Evidence wasn't actually showing that. But for me, I didn't

1959
01:35:20,107 --> 01:35:23,147
Speaker 23: actually realize. I think I was still a bit worried

1960
01:35:23,187 --> 01:35:25,027
Speaker 23: about how I was going to be able to race

1961
01:35:25,067 --> 01:35:26,987
Speaker 23: and if I was going to be able to be

1962
01:35:27,307 --> 01:35:30,547
Speaker 23: in the top shape I could be, and we just

1963
01:35:30,627 --> 01:35:34,067
Speaker 23: were a bit unaware of how fast I probably could

1964
01:35:34,187 --> 01:35:36,667
Speaker 23: run and that I'm just really happy that it happened

1965
01:35:36,707 --> 01:35:38,107
Speaker 23: on the day and then I was able to back

1966
01:35:38,147 --> 01:35:41,027
Speaker 23: it up as well and run quicker in the final

1967
01:35:41,187 --> 01:35:45,867
Speaker 23: later in the day. Yeah, I was overjoyed, I think.

1968
01:35:47,307 --> 01:35:49,867
Speaker 23: And it does actually take a bit of pressure off

1969
01:35:49,987 --> 01:35:52,747
Speaker 23: the long jump, I think as well, like it doesn't

1970
01:35:52,747 --> 01:35:55,387
Speaker 23: all right on the one event, and I did appreciate

1971
01:35:55,467 --> 01:35:56,507
Speaker 23: that as well at the time.

1972
01:35:57,707 --> 01:36:00,147
Speaker 4: So are you now a sprinter who also does long

1973
01:36:00,227 --> 01:36:01,867
Speaker 4: jump or are you still a long jumper who does

1974
01:36:01,907 --> 01:36:02,507
Speaker 4: a bit of sprinting.

1975
01:36:03,267 --> 01:36:04,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, being part of.

1976
01:36:04,627 --> 01:36:08,827
Speaker 23: The processome sort of processing at all, I think trying

1977
01:36:08,867 --> 01:36:12,667
Speaker 23: to figure that outswer out. It's I think just the

1978
01:36:13,067 --> 01:36:17,467
Speaker 23: best part about this journey to running the two hundred

1979
01:36:17,667 --> 01:36:20,747
Speaker 23: basically is actually just falling in love with running again.

1980
01:36:20,827 --> 01:36:21,707
Speaker 11: It's not something that I.

1981
01:36:22,907 --> 01:36:25,547
Speaker 23: Ever really loved or felt that good at. And I

1982
01:36:25,667 --> 01:36:28,827
Speaker 23: think now I've got that confidence to be like, yeah

1983
01:36:29,027 --> 01:36:31,147
Speaker 23: I am a splinter, and yeah I am good at it,

1984
01:36:31,267 --> 01:36:35,467
Speaker 23: and I think that's that's nice. It's what I don't

1985
01:36:35,507 --> 01:36:38,787
Speaker 23: know which which even comes first in the introductions anymore.

1986
01:36:38,827 --> 01:36:42,627
Speaker 23: I'm not sure we're still workshopping, I think.

1987
01:36:43,227 --> 01:36:45,187
Speaker 3: So have you committed to another Olympic cycle?

1988
01:36:46,147 --> 01:36:49,627
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, I am planning on going to law eight.

1989
01:36:50,107 --> 01:36:54,947
Speaker 23: So yeah, I'm really excited. I think I shouldn't. I

1990
01:36:55,147 --> 01:36:58,067
Speaker 23: definitely thought Paris would be my last game if I

1991
01:36:58,147 --> 01:37:00,987
Speaker 23: made it that far, because I really wasn't enjoying it.

1992
01:37:01,067 --> 01:37:05,187
Speaker 23: I was consumed with nerves and I just wasn't enjoying

1993
01:37:05,227 --> 01:37:07,667
Speaker 23: showing up to training everything. And that's really a great

1994
01:37:07,707 --> 01:37:13,107
Speaker 23: place to lead a campaign from. And yeah, it's been

1995
01:37:13,627 --> 01:37:18,907
Speaker 23: incredibly it's been incredible to like sit over the last over,

1996
01:37:19,107 --> 01:37:21,587
Speaker 23: you know, the games, and go, I can't wait to

1997
01:37:21,667 --> 01:37:24,067
Speaker 23: play the next four years. Like I'm not done yet.

1998
01:37:24,107 --> 01:37:26,947
Speaker 23: I'm excited. It feels like a new chapter in my career,

1999
01:37:27,627 --> 01:37:29,867
Speaker 23: which is incredive. It's insane to say that, you know,

2000
01:37:29,907 --> 01:37:32,107
Speaker 23: I've been doing up a tenion now I've done three games,

2001
01:37:32,147 --> 01:37:35,827
Speaker 23: but it does feel like a new chapter. And that's

2002
01:37:35,867 --> 01:37:39,347
Speaker 23: always it's always exciting you even know like where it

2003
01:37:39,587 --> 01:37:40,107
Speaker 23: take you, you know.

2004
01:37:40,467 --> 01:37:43,587
Speaker 4: Indeed, just my final question, you were also selected as

2005
01:37:43,587 --> 01:37:46,307
Speaker 4: one of New Zealand's flag bearers for the opening ceremony

2006
01:37:46,387 --> 01:37:48,587
Speaker 4: with Cameron Lesley in Paris. How special moment was that

2007
01:37:48,707 --> 01:37:48,907
Speaker 4: for you?

2008
01:37:49,627 --> 01:37:52,707
Speaker 23: That was incredible, That made my whole Games campaign before

2009
01:37:52,747 --> 01:37:56,987
Speaker 23: it had even begun. Yeah, it was incredibly humbly and

2010
01:37:57,027 --> 01:37:59,067
Speaker 23: I'm really emotional to be asked, I think, to be

2011
01:37:59,187 --> 01:38:03,107
Speaker 23: seen in a position where it sort of takes into

2012
01:38:03,187 --> 01:38:06,267
Speaker 23: account your your achievements, but also you are a per

2013
01:38:06,427 --> 01:38:10,387
Speaker 23: and I'm just incredibly humbled to be given the opportunity

2014
01:38:10,427 --> 01:38:13,747
Speaker 23: to represent the team and lead them out. And me

2015
01:38:13,787 --> 01:38:16,147
Speaker 23: and Cam both spoke about how like carrying the flag

2016
01:38:16,587 --> 01:38:22,667
Speaker 23: is not necessarily the most you know, the thing that

2017
01:38:22,787 --> 01:38:25,187
Speaker 23: you think of that will enhance your performance, because we

2018
01:38:25,267 --> 01:38:27,107
Speaker 23: see it's a late night, you're on your feet a lot,

2019
01:38:27,187 --> 01:38:29,467
Speaker 23: and you can quite a bit in the lead up

2020
01:38:29,507 --> 01:38:31,987
Speaker 23: to your campaign. But for both of us, it was

2021
01:38:32,067 --> 01:38:34,147
Speaker 23: about a bit more than just that. I think it

2022
01:38:34,307 --> 01:38:37,467
Speaker 23: was just sort of a nod to us as athletes

2023
01:38:37,547 --> 01:38:39,507
Speaker 23: and that we want to enjoy what we're doing, and

2024
01:38:39,627 --> 01:38:43,307
Speaker 23: that we chose to do that because us as people

2025
01:38:43,427 --> 01:38:45,507
Speaker 23: wanted to And I think it's going to be one

2026
01:38:45,547 --> 01:38:46,787
Speaker 23: of the highlights of my career.

2027
01:38:48,307 --> 01:38:48,907
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.

2028
01:38:49,627 --> 01:38:51,907
Speaker 4: Well, you gave us some wonderful moments in Paris, says

2029
01:38:51,947 --> 01:38:54,907
Speaker 4: you did in Tokyo and in Rio, and thanks so

2030
01:38:54,987 --> 01:38:57,507
Speaker 4: much for talking to us and reminiscing a little bit.

2031
01:38:57,547 --> 01:38:59,347
Speaker 4: I hope you have a nice summer break and we'll

2032
01:38:59,347 --> 01:39:01,427
Speaker 4: look forward to to seeing what the next four years.

2033
01:39:01,227 --> 01:39:01,627
Speaker 3: Hold for you.

2034
01:39:02,267 --> 01:39:03,427
Speaker 23: Yes, I'm I'm excited.

2035
01:39:03,467 --> 01:39:05,747
Speaker 17: We know it too, So yeah, thank you, thank xamly no,

2036
01:39:05,907 --> 01:39:06,267
Speaker 17: thanks for you.

2037
01:39:06,627 --> 01:39:09,027
Speaker 4: Is Anna a pleasure to have you on board. Anna

2038
01:39:09,067 --> 01:39:11,467
Speaker 4: Grimaldi there so a gold medalist for New Zealand in

2039
01:39:11,507 --> 01:39:14,227
Speaker 4: the T forty seven two hundred meters in Paris Ford

2040
01:39:14,227 --> 01:39:16,507
Speaker 4: to here how that all played out, and great to

2041
01:39:16,547 --> 01:39:18,907
Speaker 4: hear as well that Anna Grimaldi has committed to the

2042
01:39:19,027 --> 01:39:22,227
Speaker 4: next Paralympic cycle, which will lead her to the Paralympic

2043
01:39:22,307 --> 01:39:25,067
Speaker 4: Games in Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight.

2044
01:39:25,707 --> 01:39:26,387
Speaker 3: Quick check on the.

2045
01:39:26,347 --> 01:39:28,627
Speaker 4: Cricket at the base in reserve England one hundred and

2046
01:39:28,867 --> 01:39:32,587
Speaker 4: thirty five for one in their second innings as the

2047
01:39:32,627 --> 01:39:34,947
Speaker 4: wall is smashed through the covers and heads out towards

2048
01:39:34,987 --> 01:39:38,787
Speaker 4: the boundary and hits it now so one thirty nine

2049
01:39:38,947 --> 01:39:42,747
Speaker 4: for one, one hundred and thirty nine for one England

2050
01:39:42,787 --> 01:39:44,747
Speaker 4: in their second innings. That's a lead of two hundred

2051
01:39:44,787 --> 01:39:48,827
Speaker 4: and ninety four runs now Earlier on today, New Zealand,

2052
01:39:48,867 --> 01:39:50,907
Speaker 4: resuming at eighty six for five, were bowled out for

2053
01:39:50,987 --> 01:39:55,427
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty five, including Gus Atkinson taking the

2054
01:39:55,547 --> 01:39:59,307
Speaker 4: fifteenth Test hat trick for England. With the last three

2055
01:39:59,347 --> 01:40:02,347
Speaker 4: wickets he got Nathan Smith chopping on, then Matt Henry

2056
01:40:02,507 --> 01:40:06,227
Speaker 4: fending to gully where it was taken by Ben Duck

2057
01:40:06,587 --> 01:40:09,267
Speaker 4: and then Tim Southey, who was batting number eleven because

2058
01:40:09,307 --> 01:40:11,507
Speaker 4: Will O'Rourke had gone and earlier as a night watchman

2059
01:40:12,107 --> 01:40:15,827
Speaker 4: out first ball lbw so Gars Atkinson a hat trick

2060
01:40:15,907 --> 01:40:18,947
Speaker 4: to finish the innings four for thirty one. Brighton Cass

2061
01:40:19,347 --> 01:40:22,067
Speaker 4: who picked up the wicket of Tom Blundell today with

2062
01:40:22,147 --> 01:40:26,787
Speaker 4: an absolute corker of a delivery for sixteen, finished with

2063
01:40:27,187 --> 01:40:29,667
Speaker 4: four for forty six, so New Zealand all out one

2064
01:40:29,747 --> 01:40:33,187
Speaker 4: twenty five. England have already gone past that in their

2065
01:40:33,227 --> 01:40:35,507
Speaker 4: second innings one hundred and thirty nine for one, Ben

2066
01:40:35,587 --> 01:40:38,547
Speaker 4: Duck at sixty one not out, Jacob Bethel sixty four

2067
01:40:38,667 --> 01:40:41,067
Speaker 4: not out. They are going at over five and a

2068
01:40:41,107 --> 01:40:43,627
Speaker 4: half and over in their second innings and as I say,

2069
01:40:43,747 --> 01:40:46,947
Speaker 4: it is a lead now of approaching three hundred runs

2070
01:40:47,027 --> 01:40:50,467
Speaker 4: with plenty of time still to play. Let's not forget

2071
01:40:50,507 --> 01:40:53,187
Speaker 4: this is only day two at the base in reserve

2072
01:40:53,307 --> 01:40:55,867
Speaker 4: and we haven't even got to tea on day two,

2073
01:40:56,027 --> 01:40:59,587
Speaker 4: so the cricket Test is advancing before our eyes.

2074
01:41:00,627 --> 01:41:01,267
Speaker 3: Two twenty five.

2075
01:41:01,347 --> 01:41:02,787
Speaker 4: It is on news talks said, be you're gonna take

2076
01:41:02,787 --> 01:41:04,427
Speaker 4: a break when we come back, We'll stay with cricket

2077
01:41:04,467 --> 01:41:08,187
Speaker 4: because on Thursday night the first eleven inductees into New

2078
01:41:08,267 --> 01:41:11,467
Speaker 4: Zealand Crickets Hall of Fame were unveiled. Had a chance

2079
01:41:11,507 --> 01:41:14,427
Speaker 4: to be at the special unveiling function, which was a

2080
01:41:14,547 --> 01:41:16,947
Speaker 4: really special occasion. Had a chat to a couple of

2081
01:41:16,987 --> 01:41:18,667
Speaker 4: the inductees. We'll hear from them when we come back

2082
01:41:18,707 --> 01:41:19,667
Speaker 4: here at News Talks EDB.

2083
01:41:20,347 --> 01:41:23,867
Speaker 2: The biggest season in sports are on Weekend Sports with

2084
01:41:24,067 --> 01:41:25,547
Speaker 2: Jason Pain and GJ.

2085
01:41:25,787 --> 01:41:29,587
Speaker 1: Junnerols new Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Talks NB.

2086
01:41:29,947 --> 01:41:32,547
Speaker 4: Two twenty eight on News Talks HEBB, Glenn Phillips is

2087
01:41:32,627 --> 01:41:35,787
Speaker 4: into the attack in Wellington. You remember, of course that

2088
01:41:35,987 --> 01:41:38,987
Speaker 4: in last year's Test match in Wellington against Australia, Glen

2089
01:41:39,067 --> 01:41:40,947
Speaker 4: Phillips picked up five wickets in the second inning, so

2090
01:41:41,027 --> 01:41:43,987
Speaker 4: let's hope he can do something similar here. As England

2091
01:41:44,027 --> 01:41:46,627
Speaker 4: move on to one hundred and forty four for one,

2092
01:41:47,227 --> 01:41:49,427
Speaker 4: a lead of two ninety nine, so approaching that three

2093
01:41:49,547 --> 01:41:53,787
Speaker 4: hundred run lead with Bethel and Duckett together both unbeaten

2094
01:41:53,947 --> 01:41:56,707
Speaker 4: in the sixties. As I mentioned before the break during

2095
01:41:56,747 --> 01:41:59,227
Speaker 4: the week on Thursday night, in fact, the first eleven

2096
01:41:59,427 --> 01:42:04,067
Speaker 4: inductees into the New Zealand Cricket Hall of Fame were

2097
01:42:04,147 --> 01:42:06,947
Speaker 4: revealed at a very special function at the the base

2098
01:42:06,987 --> 01:42:08,987
Speaker 4: In Reserve at the New Zealand Cricket Museum at the

2099
01:42:09,067 --> 01:42:14,027
Speaker 4: Basin Reserve, and the eleven inductees were Bert Sutcliffe, John Reid,

2100
01:42:14,307 --> 01:42:19,227
Speaker 4: Jackie Lord, Trish mcelvey, Glenn Turner, Sir Richard Hadley, Debbie Hockley,

2101
01:42:19,467 --> 01:42:24,627
Speaker 4: Martin Crowe, Emily Drumm, Daniel Vittori and Brendan McCallum. A

2102
01:42:24,707 --> 01:42:28,067
Speaker 4: couple of those players obviously have since passed on, but

2103
01:42:28,147 --> 01:42:31,587
Speaker 4: they were all represented either themselves or by members of

2104
01:42:31,707 --> 01:42:34,827
Speaker 4: their families. It was a really lovely ceremony inducting the

2105
01:42:35,307 --> 01:42:39,427
Speaker 4: first eleven into the Hall of Fame. Annually more players

2106
01:42:39,467 --> 01:42:42,707
Speaker 4: will be added, and I guess there'll be debate over

2107
01:42:43,107 --> 01:42:45,947
Speaker 4: the next inductees or whether there should have been some

2108
01:42:46,267 --> 01:42:49,907
Speaker 4: players inducted this time around in the first eleven who weren't.

2109
01:42:49,947 --> 01:42:52,667
Speaker 4: But those are the eleven. Debbie Hockley, as I mentioned,

2110
01:42:52,787 --> 01:42:55,227
Speaker 4: was one of them. Nineteen test matches, she scored thirteen

2111
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Speaker 4: hundred runs at an average of fifty four centuries seven

2112
01:42:59,147 --> 01:43:01,267
Speaker 4: half centuries, a top score of one hundred and twenty

2113
01:43:01,307 --> 01:43:04,547
Speaker 4: six not out against Australia. Was the New Zealand women's

2114
01:43:04,547 --> 01:43:08,067
Speaker 4: team captain in six Tests and twenty seven One Day

2115
01:43:08,107 --> 01:43:12,387
Speaker 4: Internationals and all she played one hundred and eighteen One

2116
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Speaker 4: Day international scoring over four thousand runs at an average

2117
01:43:15,987 --> 01:43:18,747
Speaker 4: of forty two. She was the first woman to eclipse

2118
01:43:18,827 --> 01:43:22,347
Speaker 4: four thousand ODI runs and also the first to play

2119
01:43:22,627 --> 01:43:25,307
Speaker 4: in one hundred one Day Internationals. One of our great

2120
01:43:25,387 --> 01:43:28,267
Speaker 4: players and one of the inductees into the New Zealand

2121
01:43:28,267 --> 01:43:30,307
Speaker 4: Cricket Hall of Fame. I spoke to DeBie Hockley briefly

2122
01:43:30,387 --> 01:43:33,267
Speaker 4: after the ceremony and asked how special it was for her.

2123
01:43:33,507 --> 01:43:36,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, Jason, it's pretty amazing really.

2124
01:43:36,507 --> 01:43:39,547
Speaker 24: I mean, as I mentioned earlier, you know, I've had

2125
01:43:40,147 --> 01:43:42,827
Speaker 24: amazing things happened to me, probably since I finished my

2126
01:43:42,907 --> 01:43:46,107
Speaker 24: playing career. Some of them sort of individual things, like

2127
01:43:46,267 --> 01:43:48,227
Speaker 24: say when I was in dated it into the ic

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01:43:48,387 --> 01:43:51,867
Speaker 24: sne All of Fame, and when I became New Zealand president.

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01:43:52,027 --> 01:43:56,507
Speaker 24: But to be part of this, you know, inaugural first eleven,

2130
01:43:56,627 --> 01:43:58,707
Speaker 24: when I look at the names of the people, I'm

2131
01:43:58,747 --> 01:44:00,907
Speaker 24: standing here with you and we're looking at the photos

2132
01:44:00,947 --> 01:44:03,507
Speaker 24: on the walls around here, and I'm just thinking, God,

2133
01:44:03,587 --> 01:44:06,067
Speaker 24: I'm in the same and the same room as like

2134
01:44:06,387 --> 01:44:08,867
Speaker 24: John Reed, Bertzyckliff.

2135
01:44:08,787 --> 01:44:09,467
Speaker 6: Richard Reserve.

2136
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Speaker 24: Richer doesn't matter because I know him so well anyway,

2137
01:44:12,187 --> 01:44:16,147
Speaker 24: but even you know, the likes of Jackie Laud, who

2138
01:44:16,187 --> 01:44:19,547
Speaker 24: I think is you know, I'm so thrilled that she

2139
01:44:19,787 --> 01:44:24,427
Speaker 24: has been because her stats are phenomenal, Trish mccolvey and

2140
01:44:24,587 --> 01:44:30,867
Speaker 24: two of my heroes Betting Emily Drummond, Martin crow bless Martin.

2141
01:44:30,627 --> 01:44:34,387
Speaker 3: Crowe, but his sister Debs here and it's it's really

2142
01:44:34,427 --> 01:44:35,707
Speaker 3: hard to explain next laps.

2143
01:44:35,907 --> 01:44:40,307
Speaker 24: It's a it's a very very special thing, the likes

2144
01:44:40,387 --> 01:44:42,427
Speaker 24: of probably which I haven't experienced before.

2145
01:44:42,667 --> 01:44:44,667
Speaker 4: Oh, that's so well articulated. What about being here at

2146
01:44:44,707 --> 01:44:46,147
Speaker 4: the Basin Reserve. I mean, there are a lot of

2147
01:44:46,227 --> 01:44:48,987
Speaker 4: wonderful cricket grounds upon which you have done a lot

2148
01:44:49,027 --> 01:44:51,107
Speaker 4: of wonderful things. How do you reflect on your time

2149
01:44:51,467 --> 01:44:52,987
Speaker 4: playing cricket at the Basin Reserve?

2150
01:44:53,267 --> 01:44:56,467
Speaker 24: Well, probably my best effort at the Basin Reserve, I

2151
01:44:56,547 --> 01:45:00,507
Speaker 24: think was making really good tasted sandwiches. Because I don't

2152
01:45:00,627 --> 01:45:03,747
Speaker 24: know that I ever had really really good scores here,

2153
01:45:05,067 --> 01:45:09,347
Speaker 24: but the tasted sandwich it was excellent. It probably wasn't

2154
01:45:09,347 --> 01:45:12,347
Speaker 24: a particularly happy hunting ground for us here at the Basin.

2155
01:45:12,827 --> 01:45:15,707
Speaker 24: But I was looking at the photo they've got me

2156
01:45:15,987 --> 01:45:18,707
Speaker 24: in the Hall of Fame here and it's actually here.

2157
01:45:18,627 --> 01:45:20,667
Speaker 7: At the Basin Reserve holding the World.

2158
01:45:20,427 --> 01:45:23,747
Speaker 24: Cup yes in two thousand, which I had tried five

2159
01:45:23,907 --> 01:45:26,747
Speaker 24: times to win. Finally got my hands on the blimming

2160
01:45:26,827 --> 01:45:29,827
Speaker 24: thing and so that fada was taken at the Basin.

2161
01:45:29,907 --> 01:45:32,387
Speaker 3: So that's probably my most special memory of the Basin.

2162
01:45:32,947 --> 01:45:35,307
Speaker 4: And the other great thing about this is that you're

2163
01:45:35,347 --> 01:45:36,547
Speaker 4: the initial inductees, but.

2164
01:45:36,667 --> 01:45:40,547
Speaker 3: Annually you're going to be joined by many, many more of.

2165
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Speaker 4: Your countrymen and women who have excelled in cricket as well.

2166
01:45:43,467 --> 01:45:46,267
Speaker 4: But as a foundation member, I guess you'll always be

2167
01:45:46,347 --> 01:45:48,747
Speaker 4: in the first eleven, even though you'll probably harm that

2168
01:45:48,787 --> 01:45:49,627
Speaker 4: sort of thing off debbit.

2169
01:45:49,707 --> 01:45:50,907
Speaker 14: That's true, That's quite true.

2170
01:45:50,947 --> 01:45:54,707
Speaker 24: I mean, you can you know, it's you can only

2171
01:45:54,747 --> 01:45:57,227
Speaker 24: ever have the very first thing of something once, if

2172
01:45:57,267 --> 01:45:58,187
Speaker 24: that makes sense to you.

2173
01:45:58,747 --> 01:46:02,107
Speaker 7: And I think I feel I just feel.

2174
01:46:02,227 --> 01:46:04,947
Speaker 24: Like, I don't know, it's all the cliches, like you

2175
01:46:05,107 --> 01:46:06,187
Speaker 24: feel honored and.

2176
01:46:07,707 --> 01:46:09,147
Speaker 3: Very privileged to be part of it.

2177
01:46:09,307 --> 01:46:12,587
Speaker 24: But also when I thought late during this week, when

2178
01:46:12,587 --> 01:46:15,227
Speaker 24: I've thought about it in some ways it allows you

2179
01:46:15,347 --> 01:46:16,747
Speaker 24: to think, well, you've actually.

2180
01:46:16,467 --> 01:46:18,507
Speaker 3: Done something quite cool over year years.

2181
01:46:18,587 --> 01:46:21,427
Speaker 24: You know, you've not been too shabby as a player,

2182
01:46:22,347 --> 01:46:25,947
Speaker 24: and that's actually very nice to reflect Ozweale and to

2183
01:46:26,027 --> 01:46:28,387
Speaker 24: be acknowledged. There's the other thing, just to be acknowledged

2184
01:46:28,427 --> 01:46:32,147
Speaker 24: by someone else, you know, to be part of this

2185
01:46:32,267 --> 01:46:34,027
Speaker 24: first even us, it's very cool.

2186
01:46:34,307 --> 01:46:37,227
Speaker 4: That's Debbie Hockley who was one of the initial inductees,

2187
01:46:37,387 --> 01:46:40,187
Speaker 4: as was Emily Drumm, who became the first New Zealand

2188
01:46:40,227 --> 01:46:43,347
Speaker 4: cricketer to captain a World Cup winning side after New

2189
01:46:43,427 --> 01:46:46,827
Speaker 4: Zealand's a memorable four run win against Australia at the

2190
01:46:46,867 --> 01:46:49,747
Speaker 4: Bertsucklov Oval. In the year two thousand, she played in

2191
01:46:49,867 --> 01:46:52,827
Speaker 4: five Tests and in the last two produced scores of

2192
01:46:52,827 --> 01:46:55,067
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty one not out and sixty two

2193
01:46:55,187 --> 01:46:58,507
Speaker 4: not out against Australia at christ Church and sixty two

2194
01:46:58,667 --> 01:47:01,747
Speaker 4: and one hundred and twelve not out against England at Guildford.

2195
01:47:02,107 --> 01:47:05,187
Speaker 4: Her unbeaten one hundred and sixty one against Australia was

2196
01:47:05,227 --> 01:47:07,667
Speaker 4: a New Zealand women's Test record at the time. She

2197
01:47:07,827 --> 01:47:10,507
Speaker 4: also played one hundred One Day internationals for her country,

2198
01:47:10,787 --> 01:47:14,907
Speaker 4: reaching fifty on twenty one occasions and twice going on

2199
01:47:15,067 --> 01:47:18,427
Speaker 4: to make a century. So Emily Drum was another in

2200
01:47:18,587 --> 01:47:20,307
Speaker 4: du d into the Hall of Fame. I spoke to

2201
01:47:20,347 --> 01:47:22,667
Speaker 4: her about how special it was for her to be

2202
01:47:22,787 --> 01:47:23,747
Speaker 4: recognized this way.

2203
01:47:24,227 --> 01:47:28,507
Speaker 12: It's incredibly special. You played a life of cricket. You

2204
01:47:28,547 --> 01:47:32,187
Speaker 12: played for a long time in terms of your career,

2205
01:47:32,387 --> 01:47:34,427
Speaker 12: but when you think it's over, you can put your

2206
01:47:34,467 --> 01:47:38,867
Speaker 12: feet out and then suddenly this comes around you like, Okay,

2207
01:47:39,147 --> 01:47:42,707
Speaker 12: this is just something new and special, and you feel

2208
01:47:43,787 --> 01:47:45,667
Speaker 12: like a part of a family, and it's it's an

2209
01:47:45,707 --> 01:47:48,907
Speaker 12: US in cricket family and I being privileged to be

2210
01:47:49,067 --> 01:47:51,827
Speaker 12: involved in many things post cricket, but this is really special.

2211
01:47:52,107 --> 01:47:54,507
Speaker 12: I'm incredibly proud of my family.

2212
01:47:54,227 --> 01:47:54,707
Speaker 14: Are as too.

2213
01:47:55,627 --> 01:47:58,787
Speaker 4: When the citations are read out, and just the achievements

2214
01:47:58,827 --> 01:48:01,707
Speaker 4: of all of you, but yours in particular. It seems

2215
01:48:01,747 --> 01:48:03,427
Speaker 4: like you've got runs every time you're bad it. How

2216
01:48:03,467 --> 01:48:06,187
Speaker 4: do you reflect on your international cricket career.

2217
01:48:07,387 --> 01:48:09,707
Speaker 12: I was just talking about that recently with someone, and

2218
01:48:10,267 --> 01:48:13,867
Speaker 12: sometimes I don't think I appreciated what I did do

2219
01:48:14,267 --> 01:48:17,387
Speaker 12: in my time in the Black Jersey US goes in

2220
01:48:17,507 --> 01:48:21,907
Speaker 12: fifteen years, the game's become a little fuzzy and you

2221
01:48:21,947 --> 01:48:25,027
Speaker 12: don't remember some of the maybe the mediocre games, but

2222
01:48:25,107 --> 01:48:28,547
Speaker 12: you certainly remember the highlights. And yeah, there's some big

2223
01:48:28,667 --> 01:48:30,827
Speaker 12: Test innings in there. And I certainly had a ball

2224
01:48:30,867 --> 01:48:33,627
Speaker 12: with the red ball, you could say, and white ball

2225
01:48:34,267 --> 01:48:37,747
Speaker 12: was probably our bread and butter, and we didn't play

2226
01:48:37,747 --> 01:48:40,347
Speaker 12: as man Test matches. I'm proud of everything I did

2227
01:48:40,627 --> 01:48:42,907
Speaker 12: for my country, and to be.

2228
01:48:43,027 --> 01:48:45,267
Speaker 3: In this group is incredible.

2229
01:48:45,387 --> 01:48:47,587
Speaker 12: We've got the greats of the game that played for

2230
01:48:47,707 --> 01:48:50,507
Speaker 12: New Zealand, both men and women, and you kind of

2231
01:48:50,667 --> 01:48:53,227
Speaker 12: have to think, how did I manage to make the eleven?

2232
01:48:53,387 --> 01:48:57,707
Speaker 12: So it's a special honor and something that I will

2233
01:48:57,747 --> 01:49:00,867
Speaker 12: remember and my family will remember and enjoy.

2234
01:49:00,867 --> 01:49:01,547
Speaker 3: For what it's worth.

2235
01:49:02,027 --> 01:49:03,667
Speaker 4: Well, you're well and truly worth your place. Can I

2236
01:49:03,667 --> 01:49:05,947
Speaker 4: ask you about the World Cup win? How often do

2237
01:49:05,987 --> 01:49:06,667
Speaker 4: you think about that?

2238
01:49:07,947 --> 01:49:08,147
Speaker 7: Well?

2239
01:49:08,467 --> 01:49:10,587
Speaker 12: I prefer to think about the most recent one, to

2240
01:49:10,667 --> 01:49:15,387
Speaker 12: be fair, because that's incredible spit. I still have to

2241
01:49:15,907 --> 01:49:19,507
Speaker 12: punch myself to remind myself that that actually happened only

2242
01:49:19,587 --> 01:49:22,227
Speaker 12: a few months ago if that. But well, look, we

2243
01:49:22,307 --> 01:49:23,787
Speaker 12: think about it a lot. And I was just talking

2244
01:49:23,827 --> 01:49:27,827
Speaker 12: to one of the girls and just the moments that

2245
01:49:27,947 --> 01:49:31,907
Speaker 12: you remember are not necessarily the trophies, but it's the

2246
01:49:32,027 --> 01:49:34,667
Speaker 12: times after you win the trophies, because that's what it's

2247
01:49:34,707 --> 01:49:36,747
Speaker 12: all about, and you look at each other and our

2248
01:49:36,827 --> 01:49:39,707
Speaker 12: eye you say we did it, We finally did it.

2249
01:49:40,347 --> 01:49:42,867
Speaker 12: And to climb that ever us to get to the

2250
01:49:42,947 --> 01:49:46,027
Speaker 12: top and say that you've won that the biggest trophy

2251
01:49:46,067 --> 01:49:48,307
Speaker 12: of all at that time. It doesn't get much better

2252
01:49:48,347 --> 01:49:51,907
Speaker 12: than that. But it's just one of the peaks that

2253
01:49:52,027 --> 01:49:54,147
Speaker 12: I had of my career. But I'm just so delighted

2254
01:49:54,227 --> 01:49:56,987
Speaker 12: for the recent crop to get that enjoyment. And you'll

2255
01:49:57,147 --> 01:49:59,667
Speaker 12: never ever surpass it. That first time will always be

2256
01:49:59,747 --> 01:50:02,627
Speaker 12: the best time, and I would love if they could

2257
01:50:02,627 --> 01:50:05,067
Speaker 12: do it again. But man, that's just been the greatest

2258
01:50:05,107 --> 01:50:06,827
Speaker 12: thing in recent times for the this game.

2259
01:50:07,067 --> 01:50:11,867
Speaker 4: That's Emily dram another inductee and finally from the ceremony

2260
01:50:11,907 --> 01:50:15,507
Speaker 4: on Thursday night, Brendan McCallum, captain, who led New Zealand

2261
01:50:15,547 --> 01:50:17,907
Speaker 4: out of the Doldrooms to establish itself by the time

2262
01:50:17,947 --> 01:50:19,747
Speaker 4: he retired as one of the best teams in the world.

2263
01:50:20,107 --> 01:50:22,427
Speaker 4: Along the way, he started in various roles, scoring New

2264
01:50:22,507 --> 01:50:25,427
Speaker 4: Zealand's first triple century and Test matches of course, at

2265
01:50:25,467 --> 01:50:28,747
Speaker 4: one point and the fastest century and Test history of

2266
01:50:29,027 --> 01:50:32,267
Speaker 4: fifty four balls at another. Under his leadership, New Zealand

2267
01:50:32,267 --> 01:50:33,907
Speaker 4: reached the World Cup Final for the first time in

2268
01:50:33,947 --> 01:50:38,547
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen and went thirteen consecutive home Test matches without

2269
01:50:38,587 --> 01:50:41,307
Speaker 4: a defeat. Brendan McCullum was the first cricketer to play

2270
01:50:41,387 --> 01:50:45,467
Speaker 4: in one hundred consecutive Tests from his debut. He was

2271
01:50:45,547 --> 01:50:47,707
Speaker 4: there Thursday night as well. Of course he's here as

2272
01:50:47,827 --> 01:50:50,027
Speaker 4: coach of the England cricket team. I congratulated him and

2273
01:50:50,027 --> 01:50:51,947
Speaker 4: asked him what it meant to be recognized this way.

2274
01:50:52,667 --> 01:50:55,667
Speaker 20: Ah, thank you, Biner. Yet obviously it's amazing. It's very

2275
01:50:55,747 --> 01:51:00,507
Speaker 20: humbling and any you look around the fellow inductees into

2276
01:51:00,547 --> 01:51:02,307
Speaker 20: the first seven, all the faming you sit back in

2277
01:51:02,387 --> 01:51:04,067
Speaker 20: to go crikey. I'm not sure I should be here,

2278
01:51:04,107 --> 01:51:07,667
Speaker 20: but that's a I guess there was room for one

2279
01:51:07,707 --> 01:51:10,187
Speaker 20: slogger in this. It was nice to be as nice

2280
01:51:10,187 --> 01:51:12,947
Speaker 20: to be able to get the selection of us. Honestly,

2281
01:51:12,987 --> 01:51:16,107
Speaker 20: it's incredibly humbling. You know, I grew up wanting to

2282
01:51:16,107 --> 01:51:18,427
Speaker 20: play cricket for my country and I would have played

2283
01:51:18,427 --> 01:51:20,227
Speaker 20: one Test to play it as long as I didn't

2284
01:51:20,227 --> 01:51:23,187
Speaker 20: to have any impact to oserver. It was pretty amazing

2285
01:51:23,267 --> 01:51:26,067
Speaker 20: and I feel incredibly grateful for it, But to be

2286
01:51:26,147 --> 01:51:27,907
Speaker 20: honest in the way that we have been tonight is

2287
01:51:28,547 --> 01:51:30,067
Speaker 20: really humbling and a great feeling.

2288
01:51:30,467 --> 01:51:31,747
Speaker 4: You've had a lot of cricket balls and a lot

2289
01:51:31,787 --> 01:51:33,627
Speaker 4: of cricket grounds around the world, but it's the base

2290
01:51:33,707 --> 01:51:35,827
Speaker 4: and a little bit special for you because of that

2291
01:51:35,947 --> 01:51:36,467
Speaker 4: three zero two.

2292
01:51:36,987 --> 01:51:38,827
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, I think, you know, I think what it

2293
01:51:38,907 --> 01:51:43,067
Speaker 20: meant for the country and those that support New Zealand cricket,

2294
01:51:43,107 --> 01:51:45,907
Speaker 20: and then obviously the journey that we've been on with

2295
01:51:46,707 --> 01:51:49,147
Speaker 20: Martin Crow's, the late great Martin Crows two nine nine,

2296
01:51:49,187 --> 01:51:52,307
Speaker 20: and then for someone to have got over that hurdle,

2297
01:51:52,587 --> 01:51:54,667
Speaker 20: and then to see how much it meant to the

2298
01:51:54,747 --> 01:51:58,787
Speaker 20: packed house that day as well. It is a significant

2299
01:51:59,027 --> 01:52:01,227
Speaker 20: sort of place for me and I've had some really

2300
01:52:01,267 --> 01:52:04,707
Speaker 20: special memories here and not always your own memories.

2301
01:52:04,427 --> 01:52:04,547
Speaker 8: You know.

2302
01:52:04,747 --> 01:52:07,987
Speaker 20: I remember times with bowl teams out and have famous

2303
01:52:08,027 --> 01:52:09,547
Speaker 20: test winds here that you've been a part of, and

2304
01:52:09,627 --> 01:52:12,227
Speaker 20: other guy's being successful and it's just a great grounded

2305
01:52:12,227 --> 01:52:14,587
Speaker 20: players so unique in its own way, and so to

2306
01:52:14,627 --> 01:52:16,987
Speaker 20: see the home of the New Zealand Cricket Museum and

2307
01:52:17,627 --> 01:52:20,427
Speaker 20: as it really is the HQ of New Zealand.

2308
01:52:20,227 --> 01:52:22,067
Speaker 3: Cricket and you repinc us quickly.

2309
01:52:22,147 --> 01:52:25,587
Speaker 4: Now after tonight back into your day job of coaching

2310
01:52:25,627 --> 01:52:27,547
Speaker 4: the England side, you're looking forward to the next five days.

2311
01:52:28,307 --> 01:52:30,427
Speaker 20: Yeah, well that's just slight irony and the whole thing

2312
01:52:30,507 --> 01:52:33,187
Speaker 20: as a sort of Obviously, tomorrow we go to Battle

2313
01:52:33,267 --> 01:52:37,507
Speaker 20: and I'm trying to find ways for our England boys

2314
01:52:37,547 --> 01:52:39,987
Speaker 20: to hopefully take it to no lead in the series.

2315
01:52:40,027 --> 01:52:42,147
Speaker 20: But now I really looked forward to I thought the

2316
01:52:42,187 --> 01:52:44,747
Speaker 20: first Test match was it was a lot closer than

2317
01:52:44,787 --> 01:52:47,227
Speaker 20: what the March and looked on paper. I think if

2318
01:52:47,307 --> 01:52:49,027
Speaker 20: the Zelm were the whole, their catches and it would

2319
01:52:49,027 --> 01:52:50,667
Speaker 20: have been a little bit different and they would have

2320
01:52:50,667 --> 01:52:51,307
Speaker 20: put us under a.

2321
01:52:51,307 --> 01:52:51,787
Speaker 3: Lot of pressure.

2322
01:52:51,827 --> 01:52:54,507
Speaker 20: So we know that we're realistic with the standards that

2323
01:52:54,587 --> 01:52:56,187
Speaker 20: we need to meet and make sure that we go

2324
01:52:56,347 --> 01:52:57,987
Speaker 20: there and still play the style that gives.

2325
01:52:57,827 --> 01:52:58,667
Speaker 2: Us our best chance.

2326
01:52:58,747 --> 01:53:00,547
Speaker 20: And I think it's going to be a ripping Test

2327
01:53:00,627 --> 01:53:05,507
Speaker 20: match and I'll be well attended and hopefully you see

2328
01:53:05,547 --> 01:53:07,347
Speaker 20: a tight victory one way or the other.

2329
01:53:08,307 --> 01:53:10,027
Speaker 3: So so congrats on this bet. It's great to see it.

2330
01:53:10,147 --> 01:53:11,507
Speaker 20: Thanks Brian, you too, cheers mate.

2331
01:53:11,587 --> 01:53:14,307
Speaker 4: That is our Brenda McCallum, who was inducted on Thursday

2332
01:53:14,387 --> 01:53:16,307
Speaker 4: night as well, and then, as I mentioned to him,

2333
01:53:16,787 --> 01:53:19,307
Speaker 4: got into his day job, which is coaching this England

2334
01:53:19,547 --> 01:53:21,387
Speaker 4: cricket team. I said, I hope you enjoy the next

2335
01:53:21,427 --> 01:53:23,947
Speaker 4: five days. I'm not sure this is going five days.

2336
01:53:24,267 --> 01:53:26,947
Speaker 4: England one hundred and sixty for one now in their

2337
01:53:27,027 --> 01:53:30,787
Speaker 4: second innings. Already Ben Duckett and Jacob Bethell have brought

2338
01:53:30,827 --> 01:53:33,867
Speaker 4: up their one hundred and fifty run partnership. Duckett currently

2339
01:53:33,987 --> 01:53:37,067
Speaker 4: seventy two not out, Jacob Bethel seventy four not out,

2340
01:53:37,147 --> 01:53:39,387
Speaker 4: so at one hundred and sixty for one. That is

2341
01:53:39,467 --> 01:53:42,427
Speaker 4: now a lead of three hundred and fifteen runs for England,

2342
01:53:42,827 --> 01:53:46,067
Speaker 4: with still nine second innings wickets in hand. It's coming

2343
01:53:46,147 --> 01:53:47,987
Speaker 4: up twenty to three. In fact, we'll stay with a cricket.

2344
01:53:48,027 --> 01:53:49,667
Speaker 4: We'll get you to the basin next we hope to

2345
01:53:49,747 --> 01:53:52,987
Speaker 4: catch up with the Barmi Army's Trumpet Tea and also

2346
01:53:53,187 --> 01:53:55,507
Speaker 4: our own Andrew Alderson before three o'clock.

2347
01:53:55,947 --> 01:53:58,347
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side call eight hundred and eighty

2348
01:53:58,427 --> 01:54:01,907
Speaker 1: ten eighty weekends for us with Jason Paine and GJ.

2349
01:54:02,107 --> 01:54:05,347
Speaker 1: Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder news.

2350
01:54:05,267 --> 01:54:08,867
Speaker 4: Dogs NB sixteen Away from three, Let's get you to

2351
01:54:08,907 --> 01:54:11,307
Speaker 4: the basement reserve where they're taking drinks at the moment

2352
01:54:11,387 --> 01:54:13,427
Speaker 4: to get you onto the bank. And amongst the Barmie

2353
01:54:13,547 --> 01:54:18,307
Speaker 4: Army enter Finchie Simon Finch, the Barmie Army trumpeterier have

2354
01:54:18,387 --> 01:54:19,387
Speaker 4: you got us their funcie?

2355
01:54:20,827 --> 01:54:23,587
Speaker 7: Hello, I'm here Cura cure.

2356
01:54:23,627 --> 01:54:26,387
Speaker 3: You too, mate? How did you acquire the role of

2357
01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:27,947
Speaker 3: Barmie Army trumpeterea?

2358
01:54:29,787 --> 01:54:29,987
Speaker 16: Ah?

2359
01:54:30,387 --> 01:54:30,947
Speaker 8: What did I do?

2360
01:54:31,267 --> 01:54:31,427
Speaker 16: Right?

2361
01:54:31,587 --> 01:54:35,227
Speaker 22: So I've been a massive cricket fan, England fan, particularly

2362
01:54:35,467 --> 01:54:37,067
Speaker 22: since I was a kid, and I knew that I

2363
01:54:37,067 --> 01:54:40,147
Speaker 22: had a trumpet player called Bill Cooper, and I thought, oh,

2364
01:54:40,187 --> 01:54:41,427
Speaker 22: you know, he's got the best gig in the world.

2365
01:54:41,467 --> 01:54:43,747
Speaker 22: And then it was he was announced on the radio

2366
01:54:43,787 --> 01:54:45,547
Speaker 22: and television he was going to step down. So I

2367
01:54:45,667 --> 01:54:47,787
Speaker 22: just thought, ah, there's an opening. So I made my

2368
01:54:47,987 --> 01:54:50,707
Speaker 22: move and I sent an email to barmiearmy dot com

2369
01:54:51,147 --> 01:54:52,067
Speaker 22: saying who I was.

2370
01:54:52,147 --> 01:54:56,787
Speaker 16: I was always already a professional trumpeton so I just said, yeah.

2371
01:54:56,747 --> 01:54:58,987
Speaker 22: I've played with all these people. I'm a bit good,

2372
01:54:59,347 --> 01:55:02,747
Speaker 22: so what would you reckon? And we had a meeting

2373
01:55:02,827 --> 01:55:04,427
Speaker 22: and that was it. And then I tried me out

2374
01:55:04,427 --> 01:55:06,867
Speaker 22: and they're like what they heard and the rest his history.

2375
01:55:07,027 --> 01:55:08,147
Speaker 3: So how long ago was there?

2376
01:55:10,107 --> 01:55:13,507
Speaker 22: That would have been twenty twenty early twenty twenty, but

2377
01:55:13,587 --> 01:55:14,707
Speaker 22: unfortunately COVID got.

2378
01:55:14,627 --> 01:55:16,227
Speaker 16: In the way, didn't it for about a year.

2379
01:55:16,347 --> 01:55:19,427
Speaker 22: So then I did my first live in the stadium

2380
01:55:20,147 --> 01:55:22,987
Speaker 22: performance was actually against New Zealand tot Eshbuston in twenty

2381
01:55:23,027 --> 01:55:23,467
Speaker 22: twenty one.

2382
01:55:24,547 --> 01:55:28,347
Speaker 4: Do you feel and on your debut did you feel nervous?

2383
01:55:28,427 --> 01:55:30,467
Speaker 4: Did you feel like there was a bit of a pressure,

2384
01:55:31,027 --> 01:55:33,627
Speaker 4: you know, pressure on you? Is the new Barmi Army

2385
01:55:33,627 --> 01:55:34,627
Speaker 4: trumpeter at that time?

2386
01:55:36,067 --> 01:55:36,187
Speaker 1: Oh?

2387
01:55:36,347 --> 01:55:36,947
Speaker 7: Hell, I mean how are you?

2388
01:55:37,067 --> 01:55:37,227
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2389
01:55:37,267 --> 01:55:39,067
Speaker 7: I mean loads of pressure. It's bizarre.

2390
01:55:39,147 --> 01:55:41,187
Speaker 22: Like I've been a professional trumpet plat for over thirty

2391
01:55:41,267 --> 01:55:44,947
Speaker 22: years based in London, and I've played with some big names.

2392
01:55:44,987 --> 01:55:46,907
Speaker 7: I've headlined Glastonbury.

2393
01:55:46,467 --> 01:55:47,427
Speaker 16: With Florence and Machine.

2394
01:55:47,507 --> 01:55:50,227
Speaker 22: I've played I've done the Rod Laver with Blur, I've

2395
01:55:50,267 --> 01:55:52,067
Speaker 22: done I've played Splendor in the Grass in Australia.

2396
01:55:52,067 --> 01:55:53,547
Speaker 16: I've done all sorts of things all over the world.

2397
01:55:54,347 --> 01:55:58,147
Speaker 22: But I've never felt as nervous as I did that

2398
01:55:58,507 --> 01:56:00,747
Speaker 22: morning playing Jerusalem for the first time the Army.

2399
01:56:00,827 --> 01:56:02,187
Speaker 16: It was quite like it was something else.

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01:56:02,507 --> 01:56:05,987
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty iconic, the playing of Jerusalem early on

2401
01:56:06,507 --> 01:56:09,707
Speaker 4: on each morning of a Tears match. Apart from the

2402
01:56:10,187 --> 01:56:13,147
Speaker 4: staples like there, are you always looking to increase the repertoire.

2403
01:56:14,867 --> 01:56:14,987
Speaker 16: Oh?

2404
01:56:15,067 --> 01:56:17,467
Speaker 7: Always, yeah, particularly when there's one of it.

2405
01:56:17,547 --> 01:56:20,507
Speaker 22: I mean we have to anyway, really because when there's

2406
01:56:20,547 --> 01:56:23,107
Speaker 22: a turnover of players in the side, every new player

2407
01:56:23,547 --> 01:56:27,387
Speaker 22: needs a new song, and sometimes, particularly in the white

2408
01:56:27,387 --> 01:56:28,467
Speaker 22: ball side, it's hard to keep up.

2409
01:56:29,227 --> 01:56:31,547
Speaker 7: But yeah, so we're always look out for new songs.

2410
01:56:31,747 --> 01:56:32,987
Speaker 22: A lot of the songs that we come up with

2411
01:56:34,267 --> 01:56:36,987
Speaker 22: are done on the hoof, based upon what we're seeing

2412
01:56:37,027 --> 01:56:39,427
Speaker 22: on the pitch, like when, for example, the last match,

2413
01:56:39,467 --> 01:56:42,067
Speaker 22: where when England were closing on a victory and Darryl.

2414
01:56:41,827 --> 01:56:43,787
Speaker 16: Mitchell was out on the boundary.

2415
01:56:44,867 --> 01:56:46,507
Speaker 22: Building and we sort of took him to our heart

2416
01:56:46,547 --> 01:56:49,147
Speaker 22: and we started singing songs like we want our Darryl back,

2417
01:56:49,387 --> 01:56:51,507
Speaker 22: we want our Daryl back and stuff like that, because

2418
01:56:51,547 --> 01:56:52,827
Speaker 22: he'd got on the other side.

2419
01:56:52,627 --> 01:56:54,467
Speaker 7: Of the other side of the pitch and then he

2420
01:56:54,507 --> 01:56:56,467
Speaker 7: came back again, So you know, stuff like that. You know,

2421
01:56:56,747 --> 01:56:58,947
Speaker 7: it just other stuff just comes just out of nowhere.

2422
01:56:58,947 --> 01:57:01,307
Speaker 7: It depends. We've got some funny characters in the barmby

2423
01:57:01,387 --> 01:57:03,307
Speaker 7: Army and they just pick up on something and then we.

2424
01:57:03,427 --> 01:57:07,507
Speaker 3: Just start wonderful stuff. And how many of you are

2425
01:57:07,587 --> 01:57:08,947
Speaker 3: there on this current tour.

2426
01:57:10,667 --> 01:57:14,227
Speaker 22: Well, in terms of numbers, it's well, it's it's kind

2427
01:57:14,227 --> 01:57:15,627
Speaker 22: of see the term Barmie Army is a bit of

2428
01:57:15,667 --> 01:57:16,907
Speaker 22: a nebulous one as.

2429
01:57:16,827 --> 01:57:18,947
Speaker 7: Far as when we're touring away.

2430
01:57:19,787 --> 01:57:23,547
Speaker 22: Anyone that kind of identifies as Barmie Army is Barmie Army. Okay,

2431
01:57:23,667 --> 01:57:26,707
Speaker 22: if you wear in a Barbie Army shirt, I respective

2432
01:57:26,707 --> 01:57:28,387
Speaker 22: whether you're a member or not in terms of a

2433
01:57:28,427 --> 01:57:30,507
Speaker 22: subscription paying member, you're a Barmie Army as far as

2434
01:57:30,627 --> 01:57:33,827
Speaker 22: mostly well concerned. But in terms of England fans and

2435
01:57:34,147 --> 01:57:37,107
Speaker 22: total I'd say it's probably about a thousand here. Maybe

2436
01:57:37,667 --> 01:57:39,907
Speaker 22: I'd say in this ground it's about I think it's

2437
01:57:39,987 --> 01:57:44,867
Speaker 22: probably about sort of sixty forty to key we to

2438
01:57:45,147 --> 01:57:48,387
Speaker 22: England fans, but Barmie Army, I'd say there's about a thousand.

2439
01:57:48,547 --> 01:57:50,187
Speaker 7: About a thousand.

2440
01:57:49,867 --> 01:57:52,987
Speaker 22: Here, there's probably about two hundred real hardcore to go

2441
01:57:53,067 --> 01:57:55,987
Speaker 22: to every Test match, and there's there's about eighty of

2442
01:57:56,107 --> 01:57:59,787
Speaker 22: our travel package clients who who who paid a Barmai

2443
01:57:59,907 --> 01:58:01,867
Speaker 22: Army for it for a tour package where we sort

2444
01:58:01,907 --> 01:58:04,667
Speaker 22: out all their hotels, their flights, the tickets, the transfers,

2445
01:58:04,787 --> 01:58:05,627
Speaker 22: special events.

2446
01:58:06,587 --> 01:58:08,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing, that's a long answer.

2447
01:58:09,747 --> 01:58:11,667
Speaker 4: No, it was a very good answer. Now a player

2448
01:58:11,707 --> 01:58:13,187
Speaker 4: is just about to get it back under way. I see,

2449
01:58:13,187 --> 01:58:14,707
Speaker 4: so I better let you go. But before you do go,

2450
01:58:14,947 --> 01:58:17,627
Speaker 4: can we have our Brendan McCallum back by any chance?

2451
01:58:19,867 --> 01:58:21,307
Speaker 22: Why not for a few more years. I think you

2452
01:58:21,427 --> 01:58:26,467
Speaker 22: just signed that new White Book, so pray sorry about that.

2453
01:58:26,867 --> 01:58:29,987
Speaker 3: No, he is rather good. He is rather good.

2454
01:58:30,027 --> 01:58:31,827
Speaker 4: Hey, Finchy, great to chatty you mate. Thanks for taking

2455
01:58:31,867 --> 01:58:35,347
Speaker 4: air call my pleasure. Thank you all the best. Simon

2456
01:58:35,387 --> 01:58:38,787
Speaker 4: Finch There follow on socials. He's on Instagram at Finchy

2457
01:58:38,907 --> 01:58:43,187
Speaker 4: the barmis army trumpet. Yeah, sixty forty, he reckons. Well,

2458
01:58:43,227 --> 01:58:47,147
Speaker 4: it might be increasing in terms of its percentage because

2459
01:58:47,147 --> 01:58:49,347
Speaker 4: of the way this game is going. Andrew Ordison's on

2460
01:58:49,387 --> 01:58:51,947
Speaker 4: the other side of the ground, and the more I guess,

2461
01:58:51,987 --> 01:58:55,827
Speaker 4: the slightly calmer surrounds of the media box. Great to

2462
01:58:55,867 --> 01:58:59,107
Speaker 4: get the Barbie army trumpetter on. There orders plenty for

2463
01:58:59,187 --> 01:59:01,067
Speaker 4: them to trumpet about at the moment, by the looks

2464
01:59:01,067 --> 01:59:01,387
Speaker 4: of things.

2465
01:59:02,067 --> 01:59:04,347
Speaker 13: Well, that's right, I was thinking sixty forty is quite

2466
01:59:04,427 --> 01:59:07,387
Speaker 13: generous Piney I think this stage, I mean one hundred

2467
01:59:07,427 --> 01:59:09,667
Speaker 13: and sixty six for one, but it's a three hundred

2468
01:59:09,707 --> 01:59:12,347
Speaker 13: and twenty one run lead. And just to put some

2469
01:59:12,467 --> 01:59:15,547
Speaker 13: perspective around that, the highest fourthenings chase at the base

2470
01:59:15,587 --> 01:59:18,267
Speaker 13: in Pakistan's two hundred and seventy seven in two thousand

2471
01:59:18,307 --> 01:59:20,827
Speaker 13: and three. He's Hiland's best spring the two hundred and

2472
01:59:20,907 --> 01:59:25,667
Speaker 13: seventeen against Bangladesh in twenty seventeen. So England already in

2473
01:59:25,747 --> 01:59:29,347
Speaker 13: a formidable position here with the Bethel now seventy eighth

2474
01:59:29,427 --> 01:59:30,667
Speaker 13: and stuck at seventy four.

2475
01:59:31,467 --> 01:59:33,307
Speaker 3: What have you got any sense?

2476
01:59:33,707 --> 01:59:35,467
Speaker 4: Is there any sense in the media box among the

2477
01:59:35,507 --> 01:59:38,747
Speaker 4: traveling media as to what the plan for England might

2478
01:59:38,867 --> 01:59:41,107
Speaker 4: be from here, maybe for the rest of day two.

2479
01:59:41,147 --> 01:59:44,267
Speaker 13: For starters, well, there has been talk of that rain

2480
01:59:44,547 --> 01:59:47,907
Speaker 13: coming tomorrow, but whether I'm just looking at the forecast now,

2481
01:59:47,947 --> 01:59:50,507
Speaker 13: there looks to be pushed out even further, so you're

2482
01:59:50,507 --> 01:59:53,147
Speaker 13: looking at a three day rap at this particular juncture

2483
01:59:53,427 --> 01:59:56,147
Speaker 13: unless he's yonder able to swing something together. There is

2484
01:59:56,147 --> 01:59:59,387
Speaker 13: a bit of talk about possible declaration tonight, maybe giving

2485
01:59:59,427 --> 02:00:01,467
Speaker 13: them a half an hour to an hour of a

2486
02:00:01,547 --> 02:00:04,467
Speaker 13: crack at the Newsylanders. But I think piney they will

2487
02:00:04,507 --> 02:00:07,627
Speaker 13: be a touch weary England. He's given what happened last time.

2488
02:00:07,667 --> 02:00:09,867
Speaker 13: Here was the follow on Test win by New Zealand,

2489
02:00:09,907 --> 02:00:11,827
Speaker 13: just the fourth time that it ever happened, and of

2490
02:00:11,907 --> 02:00:14,347
Speaker 13: course just the one run victory are during that twenty

2491
02:00:14,387 --> 02:00:17,827
Speaker 13: twenty three Test. So that's something just that might spook

2492
02:00:17,867 --> 02:00:21,147
Speaker 13: them a little bit about going too early in terms

2493
02:00:21,147 --> 02:00:24,787
Speaker 13: of a declaration and not leaving themselves short. But you'd

2494
02:00:24,827 --> 02:00:27,107
Speaker 13: think at this stage, I mean just heading up. If

2495
02:00:27,147 --> 02:00:28,987
Speaker 13: they can get up towards four hundred or so, and

2496
02:00:29,107 --> 02:00:31,587
Speaker 13: if they get beyond that world record for eighteen chase

2497
02:00:32,107 --> 02:00:34,907
Speaker 13: by the West Indies against Australia, I think that was

2498
02:00:34,947 --> 02:00:37,707
Speaker 13: back in two thousand and three, they should be well,

2499
02:00:37,867 --> 02:00:40,987
Speaker 13: they should be pretty safe in their capability.

2500
02:00:41,267 --> 02:00:44,787
Speaker 3: So what will or what should New Zealand's approach be

2501
02:00:44,867 --> 02:00:45,587
Speaker 3: in the situation.

2502
02:00:47,107 --> 02:00:49,507
Speaker 13: Well, I think they've got to try and offer some

2503
02:00:49,587 --> 02:00:53,787
Speaker 13: positive intent tiny really when they do come to chase

2504
02:00:53,907 --> 02:00:57,747
Speaker 13: in that but it's just flattening and clearly bethln Duckett

2505
02:00:57,747 --> 02:01:00,587
Speaker 13: able to deal with it with some of plom So

2506
02:01:00,747 --> 02:01:04,227
Speaker 13: therefore New Zealand should have the batting stock that's able

2507
02:01:04,267 --> 02:01:07,387
Speaker 13: to do that you would think, having seen that you've

2508
02:01:07,427 --> 02:01:09,707
Speaker 13: lift your player of the series out of this eleven

2509
02:01:09,707 --> 02:01:13,307
Speaker 13: and Will Young who's still carrying the drinks flower of

2510
02:01:13,347 --> 02:01:15,467
Speaker 13: the Serious and the Indian historic win the the mw

2511
02:01:15,507 --> 02:01:17,907
Speaker 13: zualand have built some good will capital, if you like,

2512
02:01:18,027 --> 02:01:20,907
Speaker 13: from that series win. But starting to wonder whether there's

2513
02:01:21,787 --> 02:01:23,667
Speaker 13: just how much faith they have here and being able

2514
02:01:23,747 --> 02:01:26,067
Speaker 13: to go on and really dictate terms to it and

2515
02:01:26,187 --> 02:01:27,947
Speaker 13: give them that they did get the better of that

2516
02:01:28,107 --> 02:01:30,627
Speaker 13: first session on the first day, but it sends a

2517
02:01:30,627 --> 02:01:31,707
Speaker 13: long time ago.

2518
02:01:31,667 --> 02:01:33,947
Speaker 3: Now it does. All right, Well, I'm on the radio

2519
02:01:33,987 --> 02:01:34,627
Speaker 3: again tomorrow.

2520
02:01:34,827 --> 02:01:37,627
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that this test is still going

2521
02:01:37,987 --> 02:01:40,467
Speaker 4: twenty four hours from now. We'll certainly twenty one hours

2522
02:01:40,507 --> 02:01:43,147
Speaker 4: from now look forward to chatting cricket again with you tomorrow.

2523
02:01:43,307 --> 02:01:45,107
Speaker 4: Orders if that works for your schedule.

2524
02:01:45,467 --> 02:01:47,507
Speaker 10: That's great point and it's certainly some positive intent on

2525
02:01:47,587 --> 02:01:47,947
Speaker 10: your part.

2526
02:01:50,907 --> 02:01:52,667
Speaker 4: I'm beginning as I mean to go on for the

2527
02:01:52,747 --> 02:01:55,147
Speaker 4: next twenty four hours. Good on your mate Andrew Ordison

2528
02:01:55,187 --> 02:01:56,587
Speaker 4: covering the test for us on the base and read

2529
02:01:56,627 --> 02:01:59,347
Speaker 4: howm enz Herald dot co dot n Ze eight and

2530
02:01:59,347 --> 02:02:00,467
Speaker 4: a half away from three.

2531
02:02:01,147 --> 02:02:03,427
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line you made a call

2532
02:02:03,627 --> 02:02:09,227
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty Weekends with Jason Hine News TALKSV.

2533
02:02:09,107 --> 02:02:11,027
Speaker 4: And that is all we have for you on Weekend

2534
02:02:11,107 --> 02:02:13,907
Speaker 4: Sport for today at five to three Tim Beverages on

2535
02:02:13,987 --> 02:02:17,147
Speaker 4: your radio after three o'clock with the Saturday edition of

2536
02:02:17,347 --> 02:02:20,387
Speaker 4: the Weekend Collective. We are back tomorrow with the Sunday

2537
02:02:20,507 --> 02:02:24,187
Speaker 4: edition of Weekend Sport. More Cricket, So whatever happens over

2538
02:02:24,507 --> 02:02:27,027
Speaker 4: the next three hours or so at the base in

2539
02:02:27,067 --> 02:02:30,347
Speaker 4: Reserve and then the first hour tomorrow we'll dissect the

2540
02:02:30,427 --> 02:02:33,787
Speaker 4: way that England are advancing this Test match and the

2541
02:02:34,347 --> 02:02:36,147
Speaker 4: pace that they are there could be quite a bit

2542
02:02:36,187 --> 02:02:38,627
Speaker 4: to talk about when we talk cricket. Probably after midday

2543
02:02:38,667 --> 02:02:42,027
Speaker 4: tomorrow we'll review the darbyfore you as well. Steve Elka

2544
02:02:42,547 --> 02:02:44,667
Speaker 4: is on the show with the News this week. He's

2545
02:02:44,667 --> 02:02:47,027
Speaker 4: coming home to try and win the New Zealand Golf

2546
02:02:47,107 --> 02:02:50,107
Speaker 4: Open for the first time, having had another superb season

2547
02:02:50,587 --> 02:02:54,387
Speaker 4: on the Champions Tour. And after two o'clock tomorrow afternoon

2548
02:02:54,667 --> 02:02:58,107
Speaker 4: Richard Hadley or Sir Richard Hadley as we should call him,

2549
02:02:58,467 --> 02:03:01,547
Speaker 4: another inductee into the New Zealand Cricket Hall of Fame

2550
02:03:01,587 --> 02:03:04,947
Speaker 4: and extended chat with Sir Richard Hadley tomorrow afternoon on

2551
02:03:05,067 --> 02:03:07,627
Speaker 4: the show. Huge thanks to Bevan and Tira for combining

2552
02:03:08,067 --> 02:03:09,787
Speaker 4: producer duties today.

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Speaker 3: Song to Go Out is one.

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Speaker 4: Which I guess is applicable to what's about to play

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Speaker 4: out at go Media Stadium in a couple of hours

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Speaker 4: or so, with Auckland f C and Wellington Phoenix set

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Speaker 4: to do battle in a League Derby number two.

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Speaker 3: Two tribes going.

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Speaker 4: To war and it will be a war in front

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Speaker 4: of twenty six thousand mount Smart set tomorrow at midday

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Speaker 4: open out.

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Speaker 2: Where Shira.

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