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Speaker 1: You're trusted Home the News for its entertainment's opinion and

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Speaker 1: Mike the Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover.

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Speaker 2: The la designed to intrigue, can use Tom's dead bell.

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Speaker 3: You welcome today the Parliament and quite possibly its most

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Speaker 3: embarrassing day ever. We've got new insurance laws. You might

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Speaker 3: like student debt, the iidea. After that, again, we've got

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Speaker 3: problems with our visa application system. Tim and Katie to

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Speaker 3: the Week, Richard L. Murray Old's They offered some pretty

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Speaker 3: top shelf stuff as well. Husky Friday morning, happy to

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Speaker 3: be here, seven past six. Now, if you watch the

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Speaker 3: Parliament designed yesterday afternoon, you could feel it building. Of course,

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Speaker 3: question time focused largely on the Treaty Bill. It was

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Speaker 3: growing angst. Jerry Brownly, the Speaker, spent far too much

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Speaker 3: time calling for order. It was low rent, not unheard of,

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Speaker 3: of course, but full of needless agro Then came the

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Speaker 3: so called debate. The Treaty Principles Bill had arrived. Eleven speeches,

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Speaker 3: led off by the architect David Seymour, who spoke as

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Speaker 3: he has through this whole shambolic process very eloquently. It

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Speaker 3: was followed by Willie Jackson, who also spoke very passionately

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Speaker 3: until he called Seymour a liar and got booted out

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Speaker 3: of the house. Most of the rest of the speeches

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Speaker 3: were boring and said what you thought they might say,

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Speaker 3: depending on what side of the house the speaker came from.

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Speaker 3: National were in the invidious position of defending their position

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Speaker 3: while not defending the bill. They can claim Christopher Luxen

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Speaker 3: or blame Christoph luckxin for this, because how he let

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Speaker 3: it find its way to this place is beyond me.

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Speaker 3: Either as a coalition deal, let it ride, or kill

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Speaker 3: it before you sign the deal in the first place.

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Speaker 3: But this halfway house is the worst of all possible worlds,

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Speaker 3: and it looked like it as he was on a

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Speaker 3: plane to South America, and the poor sods he left

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Speaker 3: behind had to do their best to defend it. The

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Speaker 3: whole affair, sadly, was not what you might want or

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Speaker 3: expect from our House of Representatives. Beyond anything else, we

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Speaker 3: appear to have lost the ability to debate cordially, to agree,

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Speaker 3: to disagree, to listen to each other and have different views,

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Speaker 3: to be mature, to be adult, to accept that we

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Speaker 3: don't all have to be on the same page, and

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Speaker 3: by the time the Mari Party burst into a harker

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Speaker 3: and wrecked it all, Jerry rolled his eyes literally and

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Speaker 3: suspended proceedings for the day. I caught up with the

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Speaker 3: fallout on sky TV later. God knows what the Australians

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Speaker 3: make of it.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 3: This sort of stuff goes global as well, so more

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Speaker 3: embarrassment there. We look ridiculous, We look like amateurs. We

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Speaker 3: look like petty little children bitching at each other. We

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Speaker 3: look like Kamela Harris supporters on TikTok. We are I think,

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Speaker 3: I hope better than this. That lot yesterday in the

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Speaker 3: House of Representatives is not us. It's not representative because

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Speaker 3: if it is, we're all bugged.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: How much going on with the Trump when the projections

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Speaker 3: in the House is now sorted, so it is the trifector,

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Speaker 3: as they say. And then we have the nomination of

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Speaker 3: mat Gates to let loose as ag wow.

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Speaker 5: I wonder. I don't know mister Gates again, he'll go

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Speaker 5: through the process, but I kind of wonder whether he

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Speaker 5: could actually get confirmed even by the House Republican Conference,

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Speaker 5: based upon at least the stories for the last couple of.

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Speaker 3: Years he's a dem But this bloke, he's on Trump site.

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Speaker 6: The President is smart enough and his team is smart

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Speaker 6: enough to know that mister.

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Speaker 7: G will never get confirmed by the Senate whatsoever, because

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Speaker 7: he's never been a team player and he's never helped

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Speaker 7: out this conference.

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Speaker 3: A couple of issues in the mother country, big bust

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Speaker 3: in the illegal migrant drama. They named a big player

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Speaker 3: in the supply of the boats.

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Speaker 8: It's exactly what we want to see and it shows

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Speaker 8: that our approach of working with international partners to smash

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Speaker 8: the people smaggling gun PAGs is bearing proof.

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Speaker 3: Then they got winter heating payment issues. They're late and

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Speaker 3: if they're too late, they could spell trouble.

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Speaker 9: They're the poorest, They're losing money, their health and potentially

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Speaker 9: their lives are at risk. And it does really concern

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Speaker 9: me because I think this is a big policy error.

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Speaker 3: And then the embOS, they've got a culture crisis, a

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Speaker 3: lot of abuse and harassment in the ranks.

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Speaker 2: It's just not right.

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Speaker 8: We shouldn't have anyone having to leave their workplace because

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Speaker 8: they don't feel safe.

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Speaker 2: We failed those individuals.

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Speaker 10: I'm determined to make all of our workplaces safe.

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Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of illegal miners trapped. But because

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Speaker 3: they're illegal and the government are trying to crack down

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Speaker 3: on illegals, government aren't helping.

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Speaker 11: The people there are dehydrated, they are extremely hungry and weakened,

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Speaker 11: and many of them are actually people who are chronic medicine.

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Speaker 3: Finally, to the great art heist attached in police have

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Speaker 3: arrested thirty eight people after uncovering this large scale European

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Speaker 3: forgery network making and selling fake art. The ring we're

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Speaker 3: making expensive copies of banks us and pocassos and warholes

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Anyway, investigators found six forgery workshops

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Speaker 3: in Europe and seeds more than twenty one hundred faked

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Speaker 3: pieces with a market venue of more than four hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars. Those News of the World in ninety A

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Speaker 3: couple of things for you out of Australia. Thing number

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Speaker 3: one are the unemployment rate held steady for the third

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Speaker 3: month in a row. In fact, the economy added sixteen

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Speaker 3: thousand jobs. That was broadly in line with expectation. Participations

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Speaker 3: down a bit, but you can see the Australian economy

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Speaker 3: remains fairly boyant. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Now if the news talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be And the other bit of news out of

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Speaker 3: Australia yesterday was the Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Bulloch. I

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Speaker 3: was asked about cryptocurrency. It's not an alternative currency. There

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Speaker 3: is no role for it in the Australian economy. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's not a currency, it's not money. It's been used

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Speaker 3: as some sort of asset class. Don't call it an

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Speaker 3: alternative currency. Interesting given what's happened in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of days, of course, fifteen past six roh I j

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Speaker 3: am I well and with Keller, have very good morning

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, very good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: Roll me through some price in disease or indexes.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I can don't work out whether to say in

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Speaker 12: disease or indexes, you know. So it's been quite a

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Speaker 12: big week for local data this week, so we've had

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Speaker 12: on and that's while we've been seeing around watching how

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Speaker 12: the global markets have digested this change in the US

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Speaker 12: added a little bit of flavor to the current inflation picture.

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Speaker 12: These are the monthly selected price Indexes, which is a

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Speaker 12: October food prices, they are the biggest part of the

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Speaker 12: probably had a slightly larger than expected. Full prices down

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Speaker 12: zero point nine percent of the month. If we look

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Speaker 12: at them annually, they're up one point two percent, which

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Speaker 13: Really think about it.

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Speaker 12: Lots of sort of individual movements and there. If you

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Speaker 12: break it down, fruit and veggies fell four point one percent,

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Speaker 12: but within that veggies fell quite a lot seven point

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Speaker 12: two percent, so you can eat healthier cheaper at the moment.

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Speaker 12: That's a seasonal move. You start getting seasonal veggies coming through. Now,

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Speaker 12: fruit prices they did rise. If I look at the

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Speaker 12: last twelve month, fruit and veges down eight point nine percent.

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Speaker 12: Mike Butter, it's a standout here. Price is quite a

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Speaker 12: this still divergence as well. Beny prices have fallen four

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Speaker 12: they're also part of the monthly basket. Now some interesting

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Speaker 12: Now the flow that's new tendencies. Stock is existing tendencies

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Speaker 12: flow measures very subdued rental a rental inflation, it's only

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Speaker 12: went up zero point one percent for the month and

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Speaker 12: stock measures, the monthly measure also quite lows zero point

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Speaker 12: two percent. That one's still sitting a bit higher, just

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Speaker 12: over four percent for the year. But if you look

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Speaker 12: softening rental market. If I look at the numbers overall,

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Speaker 12: there's nothing to suggest here that Cordley CPI will be

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Speaker 3: Would say, Okay, so you mentioned rent, which is houses

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Speaker 3: on houses. Where are we at with that?

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Speaker 12: So housing data, housing mochey, essay, this is the ARII

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Speaker 12: overall here it's a bit of a mixed bag. First

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Speaker 12: the headline level, it was up zero point five percent

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Speaker 12: regional variations. Again, if we seasonally adjust these, Auckland's down

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Speaker 12: point nine percent month on month, Wellington's down point seven

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Speaker 12: Christich at the moment, Mike, and right now feels a

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Speaker 12: lot more positive here than it does in the South Island.

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Speaker 12: If we look at the yearly numbers there Aucland's down

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Speaker 12: three percent, Wellington's down two percent, but christ it's actually

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Speaker 12: up to two point nine percent. If you want sort

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Speaker 12: of the bigger picture, the housing price index across the country,

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Speaker 12: we are fifteen point four percent lower than the peak.

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Speaker 12: So it looks all these numbers. I think there's some

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Speaker 12: short term pressure in the housing market because although sales

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Speaker 12: are a lot better, if I look at the twelve

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Speaker 12: months versus where we were last year, there's twenty percent

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Speaker 12: more sales. There's plenty of sales, but lots of listings

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Speaker 12: it was last year. But in the short term it's

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Speaker 12: getting better. So Auckland days to sell fell seven days.

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Speaker 15: That's quite a lot.

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Speaker 12: But all in all, Mike, you know, sales are below

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Speaker 12: the historic average for this year, but twenty one percent

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Speaker 12: higher than they were last year. Look, I think listings

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Speaker 12: have listings have surge, Mic, But I think on the

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Speaker 12: one hand, you can say, yes, that's sort of inventory,

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Speaker 12: you've got a surgshoe. On the other hand, you could

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Speaker 12: say that homeowners are feeling a little bit more confident

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Speaker 12: about listing their homes. So Mike, I think there's short

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Speaker 12: term pressure on prices, but I think prices will lift

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Speaker 12: next year. I just don't think they'll lift a lot.

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Speaker 3: Okay numbers please.

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Speaker 12: So right now the US market is it's sort of

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Speaker 12: been a bit of a holding pan. It's weekend off

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Speaker 3: Mike, I just thought yesterday's Little Sean Parliament demonstrated our

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Speaker 3: Lily with us Jake, warning morning. Can you remember Stephen Joyce?

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Speaker 13: I'm not too sure about that. I was actually in

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Speaker 13: Money talks as your place to start.

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Speaker 3: All right, good on you, Jake, go well, appreciate it

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Speaker 3: very much. Shake Lily Finncap Senior policy advisor. I quite

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Speaker 3: like him or is that just me? I'm a feeling

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Speaker 3: bit sort of soft in my old age. On a Friday,

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Speaker 3: eighteen minutes away from seven SKI taxpayers, you want to poll?

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Speaker 3: Why not didn't get a lot of coverage this? Are

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Speaker 3: we over polls?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Are we nationals? Up three point nine points, which is

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Speaker 3: material to thirty eight point eight Labor's up one point

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Speaker 3: two thirty one and a half. Greens are down a

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Speaker 3: point to nine, Acted down a point to eight. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand first to down a point to six. The Murray

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Speaker 3: Party had down half a point to two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Nothing changes. Sixty seven seats for the right, fifty six

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Speaker 3: seats for the left, seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be Mari Party. Mike's has been they pay for

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Speaker 3: a month. Well, I know the young lady who let

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Speaker 3: us getting a paid suspended for the afternoon. I don't

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Speaker 3: think they care, Mike.

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Speaker 14: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Parliament yesterday was an embarrassment, said the Reflection on Kiwi

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Speaker 3: society today. The zero respect. This seems no rule of law.

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Speaker 3: Certain segments ignore the rules and it seems the louder

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Speaker 3: you are the better. Where are the role model? It's

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Speaker 3: not a bad question.

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Speaker 1: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 14: How are you?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Why? I mean? Gates is of all the mad appointments,

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Speaker 3: Gates would be you know mega mad, wouldn't he?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: This is the one that's causing the most backlash Gates

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Speaker 10: for Attorney General, top law enforcement officer, although that is

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Speaker 10: far from the only ruckers. But Gates has been tapped

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Speaker 10: to lead the very Justice Department he said should be

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Speaker 10: abolished and which investigated Gates for the alleged sex trafficking

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Speaker 10: of a seventeen year old girl that probe ended without charges,

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Speaker 10: But the House Ethics Panel pressed on with other inquiries

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Speaker 10: about Gates and alleged sexual misconduct and the list of

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Speaker 10: drug use and for allegedly accepting improper gifts and so

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Speaker 10: on and on, said Gates before Trump named him for

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Speaker 10: the top Justice Department post.

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Speaker 17: Maybe I should serve as Attorney General of the United States.

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Speaker 17: If necessary, I'd fire every little kicker at the J.

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Speaker 10: Edgar Hoover Building, Gates has said over time, all kinds

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Speaker 10: of stuff.

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Speaker 17: I don't care if it takes every second of our

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Speaker 17: time and every ounce of our energy. We either get

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Speaker 17: this government back on our side, or we defund and

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Speaker 17: get rid of abolish the FBI, CDC, atf DOJ, every.

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Speaker 2: Last one of them. If they do not come to heal.

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Speaker 10: Pick shut down the entire government. When he heard of

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Speaker 10: the Gates, Pick Republican Mike Simpson said, are you bleeping me?

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Speaker 10: Won't use his exact language. Multiple Republicans are scathing about

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Speaker 10: their colleague. Many a teed off that Gates led the

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Speaker 10: push to remove Kevin mc kathie is. Republican speaker mccarthee, well,

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Speaker 10: he's still seething about that, suggesting Gates should be looked away.

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Speaker 2: At end of the day, he probably shouldn't be on

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Speaker 2: the streets.

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Speaker 10: Another Republican calls Gates pick insane. Yet another describes his

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Speaker 10: choice as unbelievable. One defense industry official toe Politico that

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Speaker 10: he had concerns about to other people. Former National Security

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Speaker 10: Advisor John Bolton, who in his time was I guess,

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Speaker 10: slammed as being out on the fringe of his party's

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Speaker 10: right wings.

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Speaker 3: His of Gates, it must be the.

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Speaker 6: Worst nomination for a cabinet position in American history. I

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Speaker 6: think this is something that falls well outside the scope

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Speaker 6: of deference that should be given to a president in

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Speaker 6: nominating members of his senior team. Gates is not only

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Speaker 6: totally incompetent for this job, he doesn't have the character.

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Speaker 6: He is a person of moral turpitude, and notwithstanding how

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Speaker 6: difficult it may be, politically, this is a nomination the

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Speaker 6: Republican Party should oppose.

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Speaker 10: Gates also has just quit the House of Reps. Because

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Speaker 10: the ethics panels report on this and his activities was

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Speaker 10: due for a vote in a couple of days, so

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Speaker 10: that inquiring now is done since he's no longer in

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Speaker 10: the Congress, so getting out by the skin of his teeth.

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Speaker 10: There is a push to make that inquiry public during

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Speaker 10: his confirmation hearings in the Senate, if those hearings actually happen.

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Speaker 10: As we've been saying, Trump wants the Senate to adjourn

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Speaker 10: for ten days at least at the start of next year,

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Speaker 10: so he Trump can choose Gates and anyone else that

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Speaker 10: he wants to as a virtual dictator without any Senate

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Speaker 10: approval on these nominations. The new Senate Leader John Soon

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Speaker 10: says today, we'll look into those procedures, but yeah, this

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Speaker 10: is head on fight with the Republican dominated Senate. This

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Speaker 10: is Republicans also just one control of the House of Reps.

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Speaker 10: But with nine seats still undersided, they have the slimmest majority. Meantime,

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Speaker 10: some other picks causing a feurer include Tulsey Gabbart as

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Speaker 10: head of National intelligence. This is a person who gets

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Speaker 10: to see all of America's secrets. But Gabbart is a

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Speaker 10: well known conspiracy theory individual. She went to visit serious

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Speaker 10: dictator Assad without any US government approval, and also declared

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Speaker 10: that the US could have stopped the Russian war in

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Speaker 10: Ukraine if only if only Washington was nice at the

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Speaker 10: putin about NATO. There have been accusations that she's not

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Speaker 10: loyal to the United States, So will American allies continue

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Speaker 10: to share intel with an operations she is heading. There

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Speaker 10: are a number of pro putin people in the Trump ranks,

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Speaker 10: including Pete Hegseeth, who has been named as Trump's Pickford

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Speaker 10: Defense Secretary, running the Pentagon, perhaps the biggest enterprise in

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Speaker 10: the world. He's been on Fox News weekends as a

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Speaker 10: second or third stringer, doing all all of the silly

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Speaker 10: things that morning TV honchos on the weekends do, like

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Speaker 10: throwing a sharpened axe at a board on Fifth Avenue

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Speaker 10: one time, missing that board and nearly cutting off the

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Speaker 10: arm of a drummer who was standing behind the thing.

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Speaker 5: They're testing their skills with the acts.

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Speaker 18: Who's going to win this battle? I'm putting my money.

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Speaker 2: Off on Clayton.

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Speaker 10: Who oh, sorry for nearly killing the guy on live TV.

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Speaker 10: Let's put that bloke in charge of the entire US

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Speaker 10: military and all its weapons when he's never run well anything.

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Speaker 10: So he's Democrat and Smith who's been on the US

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Speaker 10: Armed Services Committee.

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Speaker 7: President comes to you and says, hey, we've got a

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Speaker 7: situation in the Middle East, what are our options. If

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Speaker 7: you've never actually been in a situation room or in

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Speaker 7: the DoD and analyzed what those options are, you're kind

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Speaker 7: of making it up off the top of your head.

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Speaker 10: Well, Haigsaith was in the Army National Guard and he

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Speaker 10: knows about soap. Soap, yes, soap. Here is his ad

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Speaker 10: force soap in the shape of hand grenade.

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Speaker 16: She sees one man army, loves the country and makes

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Speaker 16: damn good soap. I've used them all, and I love

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Speaker 16: these new brands like gun smoke smells like American firepower,

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Speaker 16: or Girka refined bourbon and.

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Speaker 2: Tobacco leaf, or how about.

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Speaker 16: Patriot and the Pine tar bar.

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Speaker 2: There's more of them too.

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Speaker 16: You can get him in a variety pack, each of them.

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Speaker 2: Shaped grenade self on a roll, now.

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Speaker 3: To run the Pentagon. Here gunpowder, fragrance, soap. See you Monday.

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Speaker 3: Mate Richard Arnold state side Jack Smith, by the way,

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Speaker 3: special counselor. He's been busy. He's trying to He's been

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Speaker 3: in court asking the Florida case to be wound up.

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Speaker 3: That's the bits and pieces of classified documents. He wants

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Speaker 3: that wound up. And he's also been in DC for

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Speaker 3: the jan six case. He wants that wound up as well.

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Speaker 3: And that'll be I presumably before he gets fired. Eight

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Speaker 3: minutes away from seven called.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Costing Breakfast with the range Rover.

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Speaker 3: The news dogs head be he getting's off. Mike's students

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Speaker 3: take on debt and get a kickstart in their career.

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Speaker 3: So repay the debt. I paid back forty K because

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Speaker 3: I borrowed that forty K. I tend to agree. But

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Speaker 3: I do worry these days about a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: The bidens and the elbows of this world. Who suddenly

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Speaker 3: forgive debt and you've gone and been diligent and paid

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Speaker 3: it off, but others who haven't then get it forgiven.

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Speaker 3: Other thing I worry about is just borrowing for the

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Speaker 3: sake of borrowing, and you don't know why you're borrowing

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Speaker 3: in what you're getting for it's a real problem around that.

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Speaker 3: Five away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Are the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business Tiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level like you.

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Speaker 3: Fall for Disney. Overall revenue this is globally, of course,

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Speaker 3: up six percent to thirty eight point four billions. The

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Speaker 3: things are going well. Total segment operating in come up

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Speaker 3: twenty three percent. The individual bits and pieces Network's TV

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Speaker 3: streaming revenue increased there fourteen percent to eighteen billion. A

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Speaker 3: bit over Inside Out two that worked well, Dead pul

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Speaker 3: and Wolverine that worked well as well. That was the

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Speaker 3: biggest grossing R rated movie of all time. The entertainment

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Speaker 3: segment had one point nine billion in profit. Those two

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Speaker 3: movies contributed a third of that. So you get a

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Speaker 3: couple of hits, you're off and running. Streaming, big turnaround

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. They were losing on streaming, but now

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Speaker 3: they're making a profit. The parks revenue grew a one

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Speaker 3: percent to fourteen billion, so it's all seeming to work well.

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Speaker 3: Bob Iger, who of course is the genius that ran

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Speaker 3: the place until he didn't and then he and then

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Speaker 3: they've got a Doufasen who ruined it, and then they

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Speaker 3: got Bob back, and Bob turned the whole thing around

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Speaker 3: and everything seems to be swimming. Nightly TV and zch

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Speaker 3: you called Bob. See what Bob's doing. They might need

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Speaker 3: a bit of help in that department. Tom A. Potucker, Yes,

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Speaker 3: we get him on this morning. He's thinking about charging

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Speaker 3: you to go wandering up a mountainside or across a

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Speaker 3: path or something like that in the Department of Conservation.

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Speaker 3: What I will ask, by the way, do you know that?

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Speaker 3: And you'll hear this nowhere else. The Department of Conservation

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Speaker 3: are the worst government department on paying bills. They are

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Speaker 3: the slowest, slackest government department on paying bills. Why is that?

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Speaker 14: So?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we'll ask him about that. And he was of

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Speaker 3: course in the House yesterday, so we'll get a feel

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Speaker 3: for that as well. So lockwood Smith speaking of the

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Speaker 3: House former Speaker, what did he make of yesterday's debacle?

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Speaker 3: That's after the news.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, You Can Trust, the Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs

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Speaker 1: head by.

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Speaker 3: Seven past seven. So we have an overhaul of Conservation.

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Speaker 18: Lord.

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Speaker 3: The government's looking to update the current Act, which has

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Speaker 3: hardly been touched in thirty seven years. Public feedback wanted

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Speaker 3: on proposals which include charging for access to dockland and

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Speaker 3: reducing red tape for tourism. The Conservation Minister is Tom

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Speaker 3: of Potucker, who's with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, jerdam Mike, very well.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, as regards conservation, what are you looking to do

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Speaker 3: legislatively here? Is this a tidy up or an overhaul?

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Speaker 19: This is really reform. First thing is we want to

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Speaker 19: change the planning and concession system, just make it easier

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Speaker 19: for people that do business and run their conservation sort

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Speaker 19: of aspirations on the estate. The second thing is we're

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Speaker 19: looking at charging some people to go to some places

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Speaker 19: around the state so we can have a bit more

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Speaker 19: pootier to get the jobs done.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, how much of it's about

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Speaker 3: just basic revenue generation you need more dough.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, some of it is, but a lot of it,

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Speaker 19: Like I, it's making it easier and simpler for people

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Speaker 19: to do things on their state. It's a lot of

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Speaker 19: tape out there and we need to get rid of

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Speaker 19: some of them.

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Speaker 3: Why has it been so long, so many decades before

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Speaker 3: somebody has looked at this, Well, I.

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Speaker 19: Think very few ministers and pre this governments have really

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Speaker 19: had an appetite to do it. And as you know,

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Speaker 19: we want to get the country back on track. And

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Speaker 19: that's why I put my hand up to the promise

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Speaker 19: and said, okay, let's go.

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Speaker 3: And what's the timeline on this.

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Speaker 19: I look at the feedback by the end of February,

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Speaker 19: so a couple of months, and then we'll start forming

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Speaker 19: the policy a bit more firm and introduce central legislation.

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Speaker 3: Are you expecting angst?

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Speaker 19: I think there will be a lot of concerns, especially

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Speaker 19: when we talk about access charging and asking people to

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Speaker 19: pay to go to certain places, but international bills, well,

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Speaker 19: some people believe it's there and hand it right to

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Speaker 19: go to places for free. I think on the other side,

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Speaker 19: there's a lot of facilities.

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Speaker 3: And exactly, I mean I should be I should.

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Speaker 19: Be tracked in state highway.

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Speaker 3: Mate, Yeah, exactly, But but I mean how can I

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Speaker 3: how can people count see that if you've dug a

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Speaker 3: track or put a bridge across the river, someone's got

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Speaker 3: to pay for that.

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Speaker 19: And if you go the city's places, even like Australia

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Speaker 19: is Rock and Costo Bans and Canada Yellowstone. In America,

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Speaker 19: you paid to go to those places. So we're talking

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Speaker 19: about getting out there, getting people's views and then we'll

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Speaker 19: see how we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a couple of things while I've got to you,

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Speaker 3: do you realize the Department of Conservation is one of

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Speaker 3: the slowest payers and if so, why and what are

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Speaker 3: you doing about it?

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Speaker 19: Yes? I do. There are some practices and Department Conservation

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Speaker 19: need to be improved. The Director General has been given

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Speaker 19: a message from me. We need to start moving on

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Speaker 19: us and make sure we're paying the time and manner.

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Speaker 3: And there's no excuse for it.

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Speaker 4: Is there?

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Speaker 3: Is it lack of resource? Do they not care? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, paying your bills not hard if you want it?

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Speaker 14: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Absolutely? I think some agencies are better payers than others,

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Speaker 19: and sermainly I want lot to be up there with

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Speaker 19: the best.

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Speaker 3: Right And then yesterday, how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 19: I think, Sarah contested there's a lot of tension of

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Speaker 19: one of my views in response to the questions. But

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Speaker 19: I think we need to get the country moving back

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Speaker 19: on track and need to get to equality of opportunity.

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Speaker 19: That's my quest in the House mic and that's what

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Speaker 19: I want to do and focus on that rather than

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Speaker 19: a few other diversions.

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Speaker 3: Was there any excuse for what unfolded?

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Speaker 19: I think the speaker and only that took the speakers responsibility.

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Speaker 19: He's observed that there was a lot of the sort

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Speaker 19: of the conduct and behavior in the House es say,

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Speaker 19: and I expect that he'll be pretty feminous and is

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Speaker 19: carrying through his observations.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate time conservation Minister time at Potuck at ten minutes

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Speaker 3: past seven, speaking which the Thready Principles Bill of Course

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Speaker 3: made it to Parliament yesterday, debated and voted on. But

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Speaker 3: between its arrival and the House and the departure to

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Speaker 3: Select Committee, all hell broke loose Speaker bailed on the day,

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Speaker 3: suspended the Parliament. The former speaker, so lockwood Smith was watching,

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Speaker 3: he's with us, good.

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Speaker 14: Morning to you wedding mate.

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Speaker 3: That as bad as you've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have to be as bad as I've

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Speaker 4: ever seen. I guess you know. My ceiling after it

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Speaker 4: was just one of real sadness, real sadness to see

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Speaker 4: Parliament treated that way.

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Speaker 3: Did Jerry Browny do all he could?

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Speaker 4: I think you know, you can't blame the speaker. I

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Speaker 4: think you can blame area at all. I think at

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Speaker 4: the end he had no choice but to suspend the

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Speaker 4: house and let things settle down and have the gallery cleared.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, some of the rot has started

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Speaker 4: a way back. The whole standard of the place has

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Speaker 4: been lowered in recent years, and and I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is just when once you start letting slipped it

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Speaker 4: just another inch happens, or another centimeter, and so it

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Speaker 4: goes on.

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Speaker 6: And it was.

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Speaker 14: What everyone feels.

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Speaker 13: About the bill.

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Speaker 4: It's a significant issue. And the reason why I turn

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Speaker 4: it on to watch was because I don't do that

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Speaker 4: every day. It was to hear what people had to

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Speaker 4: say about this issue, and rarely was what the bill

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Speaker 4: actually says even mentioned at all.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a house of representatives in the

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Speaker 3: fact that we as a society have slipped as well,

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Speaker 3: and they merely represent out lack of decorum as well.

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Speaker 4: I guess you can argue that, Mike, indeed. And but

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Speaker 4: you know, Parliament is meant to be a place where

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Speaker 4: those who we choose to represent us from our areas

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Speaker 4: represent us in the House and are meant to be

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Speaker 4: the leaders of our communities that we elect to Parliament.

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Speaker 4: You know, these are meant to be some of our

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Speaker 4: most respected citizens, because Parliament is the highest court in

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Speaker 4: the land, and they're meant to be our most respected

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Speaker 4: citizens in the all days. You know, when I stood

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Speaker 4: for Parliament, you had to you know, it was a

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Speaker 4: major process you went through to get selected to stand

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Speaker 4: for Parliament, let alone get elected to Parliament. And that,

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Speaker 4: of course it's no secret. I make no secret to

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Speaker 4: the fact that I'm no fan of MMP, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's partly the reason why Parliament is in such decline.

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Speaker 3: I think you're probably right appreciate your insights of Blackwoodsmith,

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Speaker 3: former Speaker of the House. Of course, their team minutes

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Speaker 3: past seven Passking no way whill Middle New Zealand might

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Speaker 3: vote for Labor if they support the Married Party. It's

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Speaker 3: a very good point. Labour's got a lot to think

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Speaker 3: about on this. Nothing wrong with being opposed to the

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Speaker 3: bill as they are, but to be associated with what

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Speaker 3: happened yesterday and in many respects and Jackson was a

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Speaker 3: very good example of that, to participate in what happened

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Speaker 3: yesterday is not conducive to building your support as a

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Speaker 3: mainstream party. Mike, the problem we have as a nation

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Speaker 3: is that the MARII narrative uses the word partnership, and

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Speaker 3: now our Prime Minister's using the same term. They all forget.

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Speaker 3: Five judges have determined that the treaty was never a partnership.

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Speaker 3: Watch this term get used more and more if we

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Speaker 3: don't stop this narrative where heading towards co governance, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I watched that debate in the House yesterday. National and

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Speaker 3: ACT were dignified in their speeches to party. Mary could

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Speaker 3: only yell and rant. I wonder what their reaction would

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Speaker 3: have been had the Prime Minister and National behave that way.

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Speaker 3: At Why Honey fourteen past.

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Speaker 3: Be fun fact I didn't know. We've got major problems

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Speaker 3: ordered to general how to look into our visa application process,

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Speaker 3: specifically around skilled visa applications, and he's come up with

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Speaker 3: a series of problems. But really it's the number surrounding

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Speaker 3: that that surprised me. And I'll tell you more about

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Speaker 3: that shortly, and we should all be deeply, deeply concerned.

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Speaker 3: Meantime might have a solution to a problem. Seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 3: We've got to change in the law around insurance this

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Speaker 3: is the Contracts of Insurance bill. It's past. It means

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Speaker 3: that we as customers will only need to take quote

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Speaker 3: reasonable steps to not misrepresent risk. Insurance will be required

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Speaker 3: to ask more questions. Minter Ellison Rudd Watt's partner Andrew

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Speaker 3: Horns with us on this. Andrew, good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: What's reasonable steps and who decides?

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Speaker 4: Good question?

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Speaker 13: Excuse me?

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Speaker 20: Reasonable steps is really going to depend on the facts

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Speaker 20: of each case, and there can be a bit of

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Speaker 20: uncertainty coming in here, whereas the old law was quite

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Speaker 20: certain relatively because the test was whether whether or not

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Speaker 20: a reasonable insurer would have expected the information provided to

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Speaker 20: have been material.

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Speaker 3: And so is this only I comes up when it's

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Speaker 3: in dispute and you have to take it somewhere and

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Speaker 3: argue your case.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, that's right. But then you only you really

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Speaker 20: need the law to come in and provide you with

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Speaker 20: an answer when you're in dispute.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So does this then mean when I go for insurance,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be asked eight hundred and fifty seven

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Speaker 3: thousand questions now, so they cover themselves off.

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Speaker 20: You are going to be asked more questions and the

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Speaker 20: reason for that is that under the current law, if

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Speaker 20: you take out a policy of insurance, you have to

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Speaker 20: tell the insurer everything a reasonable insurer would think was

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Speaker 20: relevant to the risk. And how are you going to

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Speaker 20: know what a reasonable insurer thinks was relevant to the risk?

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Speaker 20: So the changes that now all you need to do

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Speaker 20: is not give the misceeding answers. But what that means

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Speaker 20: is that the insurer has to ask you questions about

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Speaker 20: everything they want to know about.

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Speaker 3: Right, so question thirty seven Smith Street, the fact it's

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Speaker 3: on the edge of the cliff? Do I put that

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Speaker 3: forward or do they go, oh, I see, mister Hosking,

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Speaker 3: it's on the edge of a cliff.

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Speaker 20: Well, right now you need to say to them, it's

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Speaker 20: on the edge of a cliff. Under the new rules,

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Speaker 20: they will have to ask you questions like is there

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Speaker 20: anything about the geography of your house that we ought

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Speaker 20: to know about or that might increase the rest or

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Speaker 20: more specifically, what are the topography around your house? They'll

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Speaker 20: try to find easier ways to do that and make

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Speaker 20: it clearer. But that's the change.

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Speaker 3: What about the once in one hundred year, once in

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Speaker 3: a thousand year argument. But mister Hoskin, you live by

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Speaker 3: the beach and the tide came through your lounge and

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Speaker 3: I go, well, it's never happened before. That must be

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Speaker 3: a once in a thousand year event, And as it

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Speaker 3: turns out, it was.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, you don't need to predict the future. You just

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Speaker 20: need to tell them about the circumstances you've got. So

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Speaker 20: and the thing is you just are going to need

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Speaker 20: to look at the questions that they ask you and

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Speaker 20: answer those questions fairly.

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Speaker 3: Is this good stuff generally?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's really.

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Speaker 20: Good for consumers because it means that consumers don't have

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Speaker 20: to put themselves in the space of an insurer and

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Speaker 20: try to work out what an insurer would think is important,

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Speaker 20: which is what they have to do.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Andrew, appreciate your time very much. Andrew Horne,

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Speaker 3: who's Minter Ellison rudd Watt's partner. So hopefully that clears

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Speaker 3: things up. It is nineteen minutes past seven. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to work out what's the most depressing thing this week?

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Speaker 3: All the New Zealanders leaving New Zealand still, the protest march,

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Speaker 3: and the coverage of or Lester Levy, the Health Commissioner

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Speaker 3: trying to find two billion dollars in savings and wading

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Speaker 3: into the milo market. More on that shortly seven to twenty.

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Speaker 3: but there were a few local cases to back up

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Speaker 3: the effectiveness of the solution. So Fletcher Tech, which is

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Speaker 3: Fletcher Building's technology division, they teamed up the two Degrees

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Speaker 3: Business two tackled significant connectivity challenges faced in remote parts

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Speaker 3: of the country here and Australia in fact, where the

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Speaker 3: traditional fiber or the four G unavailable. So basically Fletcher

881
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Speaker 3: Tech went around installing starlink for business solutions. So Starlink

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Speaker 3: through two Degrees is now recognized by Fletcher Tech as

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Speaker 3: a rapidly deployable solution for network redundancy and offers of flexible,

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Speaker 3: affordable solution supported by two degrees managed US team and

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Speaker 3: space right here in the country. And two degrees have

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Speaker 3: proved they are serious about starlink through their own testing

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Speaker 3: and service and oversights, so it's all good news. You

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Speaker 3: can find out more by going about well business at

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Speaker 3: or Starlink for Business is where you go starlink for

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Speaker 3: business at two degrees dot nz Ford slash business Hosking

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Speaker 3: Now seven twenty four Time to mark the week, little

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Speaker 3: piece of using current events that's as exciting as being

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Speaker 3: Matt Gates, wh Donald calls the trifectorate.

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Speaker 2: It is a nice world today, a ou the.

895
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Speaker 3: White House, the other House, the Senate. This is as

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Speaker 3: comprehensive as it gets the reaction seven because people are nuts.

897
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Speaker 3: Elections have always had winners and losers, and there is

898
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Speaker 3: always another election. Social media has shown it's just how

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Speaker 3: often people forget that HOSPO seven. General spending this this

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Speaker 3: week we find is still anemic, but HOSPO is upper

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Speaker 3: decent chunks, so we'll take that all day long. Speaking

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Speaker 3: which Fontierra nine, I mean right now is it as

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Speaker 3: good as it's ever going to get? Nine to fifty

904
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Speaker 3: could be ten bucks, a sale worth billions and an

905
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Speaker 3: effect on the economy that is so fantastically welcome. The

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Speaker 3: all black seven. They look increasingly like the Robertson era

907
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Speaker 3: is going to be a very good thing. England and

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Speaker 3: Ireland with France for good measure, and that's a good

909
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Speaker 3: way to hit Christmas. I would have thought a cop

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Speaker 3: twenty nine sex because it's so funny. No one of

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Speaker 3: relevance is there. The host president thinks oils from God,

912
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Speaker 3: and it looks increasingly like the earnest Sarad has finally

913
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Speaker 3: reached its Nadia shell. Seven. Good Court went over the

914
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Speaker 3: active as nut as courts can't enforce the way business

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Speaker 3: is done and hold you responsible for things you don't

916
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Speaker 3: even make. Here we save eight another seven billion we

917
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Speaker 3: find out on top of the eight billion we find

918
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Speaker 3: out so far this year, So saving is no bad thing.

919
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Speaker 3: But Black Friday six he doesn't love a bargain because

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Speaker 3: spinning's flight fun too, isn't it. China six three hundred

921
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Speaker 3: and forty million dollars worth of business done on the

922
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Speaker 3: latest trade mission, reminding us that being engaged with the

923
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Speaker 3: world is actually good for business, tourism for I mean

924
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Speaker 3: the great dropped ball of the past few years. Lockdown,

925
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Speaker 3: we've been forgotten. Immigration two about the most depressing thing

926
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Speaker 3: this week. The numbers leaving New Zealand are heartbreaking. The

927
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: numbers arriving are falling. What's it say when we're actually

928
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Speaker 3: going backwards, which we will be? Are the apology? Seven?

929
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Speaker 3: Because it was heartfelt and came from the right place.

930
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Speaker 3: But that was the easy part, of course. The protest one, wow,

931
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Speaker 3: more depressing than the immigration numbers. AM afraid to tell you.

932
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Speaker 3: The media covering the protest two between singing reporters, I

933
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Speaker 3: don't make this up. Singing reporters and reporters making up numbers.

934
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Speaker 3: It is not hard to see where the media is

935
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Speaker 3: where it is and is held in the sort of

936
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Speaker 3: contempt it is. And they brought it on themselves, basically.

937
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Speaker 3: And that's the week copies on the website. And if

938
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Speaker 3: you take two of these, by the way, twist them

939
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Speaker 3: into a band and color them yellow, they make an

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Speaker 3: awesome bracelet for the love heart bit of the Coldplay

941
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Speaker 3: concept pasking like you reckon. John Brian is the best

942
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Speaker 3: Auditor General we've ever had. He's reviewing so much it

943
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Speaker 3: can barely remember the names of previous ags me neither

944
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Speaker 3: interesting question. I wonder if he's reviewing too much and

945
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Speaker 3: what it actually means. And I go back to the

946
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Speaker 3: ComCom decision, which is not the order to General, of course,

947
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Speaker 3: but I go back to the ComCom decision and John Ryan,

948
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Speaker 3: by the way, is ag will talk about in the

949
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Speaker 3: moment with the business of the visas and on that work.

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Speaker 3: He's done very well. I go back to the ComCom

951
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Speaker 3: yesterday in their court case for one, and I remember

952
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Speaker 3: doing some of the advertising around that at the time,

953
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Speaker 3: and what I meant by, you know, when we did

954
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Speaker 3: the advertising. What they're meaning to say is, as a

955
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Speaker 3: result of a connection with starlink, you'll be able to

956
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Speaker 3: go to parts of the country you've not been able

957
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Speaker 3: to go to previously and be able to text people.

958
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Speaker 3: So if you're in the middle of a national park,

959
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Speaker 3: you can text, because that's what starlink does. If you're

960
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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty seven thousand feet underground, you won't

961
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Speaker 3: be able to text. Now the ComCom decides that that

962
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Speaker 3: is misleading. And where in there in that combination of actions,

963
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: I ask you does common sense come And so technically,

964
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Speaker 3: when you're underground, in the center of the earth, no,

965
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Speaker 3: you won't be able to text. But then again, did

966
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Speaker 3: you ever think you would And they said you might

967
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Speaker 3: not be able to text from under a tree? Maybe

968
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Speaker 3: you thought you might not be able to So another word,

969
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: are we are they taking the piss the ComCom that

970
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Speaker 3: they got too much money and they're legal fund is

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Speaker 3: my simple question for you, right, the visa thing that's

972
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Speaker 3: not good. We need to do better, so hopefully we'll

973
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Speaker 3: work through some solutions.

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Speaker 1: In a moment, Big News bold opinions the mic hosting

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and

976
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Speaker 1: use togs edbs.

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Speaker 3: In Titan with the protest, I come back to this, Mike.

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Speaker 3: That ridiculous TV and Z doco trans and Pregnant is

979
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Speaker 3: next is exhibit one in the failure of TV and Z.

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Speaker 3: Let me come back to that, Mike. Good to see

981
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Speaker 3: TV and z's Nevak Rogers is in the Herald this

982
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Speaker 3: morning in the media column the proposed new head of

983
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Speaker 3: TV and Z News taking a week's leave to attend

984
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Speaker 3: the Heckoy to show off her impartiality fully exposed for

985
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Speaker 3: the biased, woke organization TV and Z is also Let

986
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Speaker 3: me come back to that in just a couple of moments.

987
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Speaker 3: Twenty three to eight, Tim and Katy after eight being

988
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Speaker 3: a prime of laying. So here's your fund step for

989
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Speaker 3: this Friday. Last year, there were eight hundred and ninety

990
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Speaker 3: two thousand visa applications, right, how many of those were

991
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Speaker 3: skilled workers? Turns out, and this is the thing I

992
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Speaker 3: didn't know and blew me away. In the early hours

993
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Speaker 3: of this morning. It was one point three eight percent.

994
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Speaker 3: One point three eight percent twelve thousand. Order to General

995
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Speaker 3: highlights this in a report suggesting we need to be

996
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Speaker 3: better at skilled visas. No kidding from the Order to

997
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Speaker 3: General's off as senior performance auditor Lucy Morland is with us, Lucy,

998
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: morning to you morning.

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Speaker 6: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Did you know the stuff going in?

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Speaker 21: When we go in toward its we always do a

1002
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Speaker 21: lot of research, so we found it out on the way.

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Speaker 3: Does it strike you as a person who does research

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00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: at one point three eight percent is not a very

1005
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: high number. It might want to be slightly higher.

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Speaker 21: I wouldn't comment on that. I would say that the

1007
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Speaker 21: one point three eight percent that we found are the

1008
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Speaker 21: people that have the skills that New Zealand needs in

1009
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Speaker 21: the medium for longer term, so it's very important that

1010
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Speaker 21: the systems set up well to attract them.

1011
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Speaker 3: So what are you telling as a result of your research.

1012
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: Are you telling us that if the system was better

1013
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: set up, that number would go up because more people

1014
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Speaker 3: would apply, or are you telling us even if we

1015
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Speaker 3: did have a good system, no one wants to come

1016
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Speaker 3: to the country with any skills.

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Speaker 21: I think what we're saying is that the OECD and

1018
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Speaker 21: other research organizations have said that immigration systems play a

1019
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Speaker 21: really important part not only in processing visas, but attracting

1020
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Speaker 21: the people that a country needs. And we know that

1021
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Speaker 21: New Zealand's in a very competitive global market for skills.

1022
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Speaker 21: So the more that the system is set up well

1023
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Speaker 21: to work smoothly for those applicants, then the more it

1024
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Speaker 21: can help them make a decision on whether or not

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Speaker 21: to come here certainly.

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Speaker 3: And how do you know whether we're set up well?

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Speaker 3: Do you make a comparison with other countries and how

1028
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: do you do that?

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00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 21: Well, we looked at the New Zealand system and we

1030
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Speaker 21: come up with criteria when we do our audits, and

1031
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Speaker 21: we say what would it look like if it was good,

1032
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Speaker 21: and we'd say it would be smooth and clear and

1033
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Speaker 21: consistent and fair. We use those factors and we look

1034
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Speaker 21: at MBI's own promise to its customers, which also talks

1035
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Speaker 21: about certainty and simplicity, and then we use that as

1036
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Speaker 21: our guide to see whether we think we can see

1037
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Speaker 21: that in the system can you And we found that

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Speaker 21: we could, in some circumstances, in some parts of the

1039
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Speaker 21: system see that working very well. We could see good

1040
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Speaker 21: information flowing around the system. It's the quality of the

1041
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Speaker 21: audit and decision making, for example. But in other places,

1042
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Speaker 21: like where the technology comes in to help people track

1043
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Speaker 21: whether visa is at any point in the process, we

1044
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Speaker 21: thought that that could be very much improved. We know

1045
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Speaker 21: that people are used to tracking a delivery or a

1046
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Speaker 21: food delivery on their firing from minute to minute. And

1047
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Speaker 21: yet when you come to try and see where your

1048
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 21: visa's at, you might need to call the call center

1049
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Speaker 21: instead because you can't see online and those systems aren't

1050
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Speaker 21: available to help.

1051
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Speaker 14: You see that.

1052
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Speaker 3: And as calling the call center at nightmare, I wouldn't.

1053
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Speaker 21: Call it a nightmare. But we know that when people

1054
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Speaker 21: call the call center, they the the question they ask

1055
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Speaker 21: most often is where's my visa? And so clearly they

1056
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Speaker 21: want to know, they want to know where their visa is,

1057
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Speaker 21: and they want to see progress because.

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Speaker 3: They don't charge a bit of money for this.

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 21: Well, everybody pays fees to apply for a visa, certainly,

1061
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Speaker 21: And the thing is, you know, for a residence visa decision,

1062
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Speaker 21: it's can I live permanently in New Zealand or not?

1063
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Speaker 21: So you know that is a really big decision.

1064
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Speaker 3: How much of this I don't know how much of

1065
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: this work in other departments you've done, but how much

1066
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Speaker 3: of this is just a'll vet's the government and technologically

1067
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Speaker 3: speaking they're not up to much and never had been.

1068
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Speaker 21: I haven't worked across other audits. This is the first

1069
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Speaker 21: audit I've worked on for the office.

1070
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Speaker 14: But I know that.

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Speaker 21: Immigration New Zealand are very mindful of the fact that

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Speaker 21: they need to get their technology improved in order to

1073
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Speaker 21: help people do this good.

1074
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Speaker 3: So so what you've discovered they are cognizant of, and

1075
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming at the highest level I Minister Stanford will

1076
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Speaker 3: be aware of all of this and somebody is working

1077
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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 21: I couldn't speak for the minister, but certainly yesterday when

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Speaker 21: we published our report, Immigration in New Zealand said to

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Speaker 21: us that they accepted our recommendations and that they were

1081
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Speaker 21: hoping to do work towards some of them, and that

1082
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Speaker 21: they were also working on some of them already. So

1083
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Speaker 21: that's a very positive thing.

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Speaker 3: All right, Lucy, nice to talk to you. Go well,

1085
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Speaker 3: Lucy Moulin, who is with the Auditor General's Office. Speaking

1086
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Speaker 3: of which, eighteen minutes away from eight Pascar, there was

1087
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Speaker 3: a presentation, very interesting presentation and this will blow your mind.

1088
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Speaker 3: New Zealand's healthcare system is out performing Sweden's, Canada's and Germany's.

1089
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Speaker 3: It was a financial presentation. It was a financial performance

1090
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Speaker 3: briefing by the acting Chief Financial Officer of Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Chart based on US research showing New Zealand performed ahead

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Speaker 3: of those three countries, as well as ahead of Switzerland

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Speaker 3: and France and the US. Now, first question, when I say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: we've got a better system than Sweden, Canada and Germany,

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Speaker 3: does that mean anything to you? Because I mean, do

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Speaker 3: you know how good Sweden or Canada or Germany is?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 3: You don't, nor do I. So what does it actually mean?

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Speaker 3: It means, as far as I can work out, nothing,

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Speaker 3: because of course, if I asked you how the health

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Speaker 3: system is performing, you would say pretty much what everyone

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Speaker 3: else says, which it's crap broadly, not all the time,

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Speaker 3: but a lot. New Zealand healthcare spending as a percentage

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Speaker 3: of GDP was middle of the pack, slightly ahead of

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Speaker 3: the UK, slightly ahead of Canada, slightly ahead of Sweden,

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Speaker 3: but slightly behind frant Switzerland and Germany. Also shows that

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Speaker 3: public health spending more than doubling from twenty twelve when

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Speaker 3: it used to be thirteen billion. We're heading towards thirty.

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Speaker 3: The biggest jump of the last two years was personnel costs.

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00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: It's risen from ten to twelve billion. So what that

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Speaker 3: indicates to me is one of a couple of things.

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00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Because we are not as good as the UK. And

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Speaker 3: yet you ask people in the UK, what do you

1114
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: reckon of the NHS, they'd tell you the same, almost universally,

1115
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: they'd say it's rubbish, it's third world, it's a disaster.

1116
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: Yet according and this is the lies of numbers and

1117
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: stats and figures, you can manipulate them to say anything

1118
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Speaker 3: you want. According to this, we're actually doing pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So do you believe it or not?

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Speaker 1: Seventeen to two good on the mike asking Breakfast Full

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Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen minutes away from mate, just mildly choking

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Speaker 3: on an olive mike that ridiculous TV and said doco

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Speaker 3: trans and Pregnant is exhibit number one of the failure

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Speaker 3: of TV and said, well, you're wrong on that, because

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Speaker 3: I thought that's a bold call on their part to

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Speaker 3: run a documentary series I'm assuming funded by the taxpayer,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, primetime television, how's that going to go down?

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Speaker 3: And we went and got some numbers and it came in.

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Speaker 3: It was a four forty I think it was four forty.

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Speaker 3: Four hundred and forty thousand people watched it on streaming

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Speaker 3: plus terrestrial. And I can tell you from experience, that's

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Speaker 3: a good number. If you put on a documentary or

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Speaker 3: you put on anything at about seven thirty at night

1135
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: these days, that's a you'd be happy with that. So

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Speaker 3: to say that that's wrong, people watched it, and that's

1137
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Speaker 3: what a television channel is there to do, put programs

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Speaker 3: on that people watch. As regards Nevack Rogers, who I

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: do not know, but it has suggested, and this is

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Speaker 3: in the media column of the Herald this morning, that

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00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: Newack Rodgers is going to end up TV ands that

1142
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: are looking to merge the content content being programs like

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Speaker 3: those when I just mentioned and use, which is a

1144
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: separate division together. Now, from a broadcaster's point of view,

1145
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: that's a critical error and they'll live to regret that.

1146
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: But be that as it may. Nevack Rogers that has

1147
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: reported this morning took leave personally and this is in

1148
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: her defense to go on the hecoy. Now the question

1149
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: is can you do anything on personal leave or are

1150
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: there certain people in certain places and certain jobs, with

1151
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: certain reputations, in certain profiles, particularly at politically difficult times

1152
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: and companies run by the government, where you probably can't

1153
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: do anything you wanted on holiday. And could we suggest

1154
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: that a person who might well be in charge of

1155
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Speaker 3: programming for TV and Z there the government owned television operator,

1156
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: having been on a protest march at a time of

1157
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: high political angst, is probably not the wisest thing they

1158
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: could have done. Or would they counter argue and go

1159
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: this is so personally important to me toughly like or

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Speaker 3: or what.

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Speaker 15: If she had a kid at one of the schools

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Speaker 15: that was going and they needed some parent helpers?

1163
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: Good question. Next question I have for you, and this

1164
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Speaker 3: I backed off my whole cyber truck thing. I wanted

1165
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Speaker 3: a cyber truck and no longer want a cyber truck.

1166
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Speaker 3: Yesterday they announced their sixth recall this year, not sixth

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Speaker 3: recall in the history of the Model sixth recall this

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Speaker 3: year it's virtually won every two months. Is that a

1169
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Speaker 3: lot it's a hell of a lot. It would be

1170
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Speaker 3: a record breaking lot. They can't Elon Musk needs to

1171
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: get out of mari Lago and the other story I

1172
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: read yesterday, the Trump team are getting thoroughly sick and

1173
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: tired of them. He's moved into mary Lago. He's a

1174
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: pain in the ass and they cannot wait to see

1175
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Speaker 3: the back of him. Allegedly, he needs to get back

1176
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Speaker 3: to the factory and build proper cars, because when you're

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Speaker 3: recalling your car for the sixth time this year, you're

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Speaker 3: not building cars.

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Speaker 15: Anything seriously wrong with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they put it down to talk. It's the inverter.

1181
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: Listen to the way they describe it. The inverter stops

1182
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: producing talk. The driver loses the ability to apply talk

1183
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: to the vehicle using the accelerator pedal, resulting in a

1184
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: loss of propulsion. So, in other words, the car doesn't go.

1185
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 15: You put your foot down and you roll backwards down

1186
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Speaker 15: the hill.

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Speaker 3: Nothing happens. Tend away with it's unbelievable. Gets somebody to change.

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Speaker 15: The radio show to do stop fiddling with the printer.

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: And here's the thing I've fixed it. Got an idiot

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Speaker 3: in here to do it couldn't do it properly?

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Speaker 14: Now?

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Speaker 3: Fixed it? Receiving data?

1193
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Speaker 14: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Listen, do I have to do everything around here? Where

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Speaker 3: am I seven away from?

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Speaker 14: Mate?

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Speaker 3: Let's talk rugby. All Blacks take on France. This is

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Speaker 3: turning out to be a top shelf sort of tour.

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Speaker 3: Elliot Smith's with us. Elliott, how are you, Mike?

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Speaker 22: I'm good? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Who do you get to change the printer in the

1202
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Speaker 3: sports department?

1203
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 22: That usually falls upon me to do that. I back

1204
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 22: myself in those situations, though, you do like yourself?

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00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. How are you enjoying France?

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 22: Wonderful country, wonderful city. Goods you back here a year

1207
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 22: on from the World Cup. Plenty of spectators expected for

1208
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 22: this one come the weekend. A lot of intrigue as

1209
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 22: to how the All Blacks will go, and I think

1210
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 22: with Antoine DuPont, the French captain back in the mix,

1211
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 22: that there's storylines are plenty for this one.

1212
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 3: Okay, the France Israel football game, there's a big security operation.

1213
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: Are you feeling that is an angsty vibe around the

1214
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: place or not? Really?

1215
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 22: Yeah, there is about four thousand police officers deployed around

1217
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 22: the ground. They've only sold a third of the seconds.

1218
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 22: No one wants to go to this game this evening

1219
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 22: and a couple of hours time, like everyone's staying away.

1220
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 22: It's a real sense of you know that you put

1221
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 22: Israel at this point in time in the world in

1222
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 22: a football scenario, given what happened last week as well

1223
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 22: with their team there as well. No one wants to

1224
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 22: go here in Paris tonight. I was speaking a couple

1225
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 22: of locals. Everyone's going to watch it on TV, but

1226
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 22: no one's brave enough really to go to the ground

1227
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 22: and watch it in person, although I see mccron and

1228
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 22: others are going to go.

1229
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: Is the rugby a sellout?

1230
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 22: It is close to us all that, I believe, Yeah, absolutely,

1231
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 22: And I think you put the All Blacks in the

1232
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 22: form there in du palm, all the ingredients there. So

1233
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 22: they're not going out for the football team tonight, but

1234
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 22: they're willing to go out in a couple of night's

1235
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 22: time and see the rugby team. I guess New Zealand

1236
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 22: probably on the banner a little leads threatening them going

1237
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 22: to see Israel at the moment, given world of fears.

1238
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I see us beating France, so it's

1239
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: an excellent tour. But I see us fragile mentally for

1240
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: Italy because we want to go home and do Christmas

1241
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: shopping and Italy are useless. Is that fair or not? Really?

1242
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 22: Well, I suppose they could do some Christmas shopping in

1243
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 22: Italy and combine the two before they head home. Mike,

1244
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 22: I think it's a real it's a real problem. You know,

1245
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 22: there's got to be These are three big tests that

1246
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 22: they're coming off here England, Ireland and then France this week.

1247
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 22: They get through this week, pressure valve releases a little,

1248
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 22: you look forward to that beach at home, etc. As

1249
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 22: you say, But I think there's a bit of a

1250
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 22: steely resolve in this team now that hey, they've got

1251
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 22: a couple of wins behind them. Now they get France

1252
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 22: on the weekend, they picked them off if they can

1253
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 22: do so. I don't think they'd want to leave the

1254
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 22: tour with the old rocks and the beach towels over summer.

1255
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: No, I would agree with that. How's the weather for

1256
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: the game.

1257
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 22: It's a bit cold, getting down to nine degrees for kickoff,

1258
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 22: four degrees overnight as well, so it's going to be

1259
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 22: the celligest match for the all Blacks so far on

1260
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 22: the tour, but conditions expected to be relatively still. No

1261
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 22: real rain around this week so far in Paris, the

1262
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 22: condition should be good.

1263
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: You're managing to do your washing, okay, and stuff the

1264
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: hotel bills. Aren't you anything I can help with?

1265
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 6: No?

1266
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 22: No, yeah, if you know a good laundrette, just send

1267
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 22: them my way. I'm trying to make way way through

1268
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 22: those Mitchell and three star restaurants you sent through as well,

1269
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 22: but we're ticking them off.

1270
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Speaker 3: Got on your mate, go well. Elliott Smith, who's a

1271
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: he'll be calling the game of course here on News

1272
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: Talks it be and Radio Sport and all the other

1273
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: outlets that we have the iHeart what he by called

1274
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: these days? What are they called gold sports? Gold Sport.

1275
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: It'll be nice to hear Mike actually give us one

1276
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: of those things, Glenn pasking nice one. It'll be nice

1277
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: to hear doctor Peter Sharples beyond to party merry. Can

1278
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: we get him on? That's not a bad it's not

1279
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: a bad idea. And Sam, not only didn't you change

1280
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: the printer properly, you didn't think of Peter Sharples. Why

1281
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 3: are the listener's coming up with the ideas, very good idea.

1282
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: Let's see, let's see where he's at us in a

1283
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: couple of moments. Then Tim and Katie did the weak

1284
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: horse here at News Talks.

1285
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Speaker 14: He'd be.

1286
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Speaker 1: Your trusted thource for news and views, the Mike Hosking

1287
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

1288
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news Talks ed b.

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Speaker 4: Can we run that?

1290
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Speaker 14: Is that the one means?

1291
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: Or come on, just for real? These are a whole

1292
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Speaker 3: series of remastered songs. We've got a remaster, we've got

1293
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Speaker 3: an alternative we've got an acoustic alternative pop or is

1294
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Speaker 3: it alternative rock? And not only that, but we've got

1295
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Speaker 3: two discs Lime Green. In fact, if you buy them

1296
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Speaker 3: from Barns and Noble, it's a Barnes and Noble exclusive

1297
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Speaker 3: lime Green to LP set of Last time we didn't

1298
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago?

1299
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Speaker 2: Was it that we did?

1300
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: Talking his from that long ago? Because I said you

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Speaker 3: could do these spot these people a mile away. I

1302
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Speaker 3: don't know you can spot these people a mile away

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Speaker 3: in these versions. But anyway, two discs, eleven tracks.

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Speaker 1: Of one and twelve and the other week in Review

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Speaker 1: with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table called.

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Speaker 3: Talking Head seventy seven. Right, Oh, Tim and Katy's with us,

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Speaker 3: Tim and Katy, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 18: I was just saying to Sam, he'd probably rather be

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Speaker 18: on jury duty at this rate, with all the abuse

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Speaker 18: he's getting from you this morning.

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, he would be treated respectfully, he would be

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Speaker 3: listened to, he would have some power.

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Speaker 2: But he's just he's a prisoner, isn't he, Katie.

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Speaker 3: He's a prisoner of the Hosking regime.

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Speaker 14: He is.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what the Hosking region. It's very good

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Speaker 3: point you make him.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: The Hosking regime is? Continual continual improvement. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: here for slackers. Relentless, relentless, continual improvement. And it's a

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Speaker 3: simple it's a simple printer. It's a very very base printer.

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Speaker 3: Because the budgets here at News Talk z ZBI represent these,

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Speaker 3: so they make it simple to change the printer. It's

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Speaker 3: not hard. And I just it's all I had to

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Speaker 3: do this morning was double handle it.

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Speaker 13: And I.

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Speaker 9: And it's always the person who comes in after the

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Speaker 9: person who fiddled with it first, that exactly seems to

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Speaker 9: have fixed it.

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Speaker 18: When the person who fiddled with at first aka.

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Speaker 2: Actually actually did affect it.

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Speaker 12: Actually, And look, look, i'd love to keep talking about

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Speaker 12: this printer, but I've got President Trump on the other line,

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Speaker 12: so I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To have to go to Is it like opening the jar,

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Speaker 3: So you try and open the jar and you can't,

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Speaker 3: and you hand it to the person then goes easy.

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Speaker 3: So that's what you're arguing. I'm the jar opener in

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Speaker 3: our house.

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Speaker 2: I opened the jars because of a bulging biceps.

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Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that. By the way, the call for

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Speaker 3: Trump Sam won that, so he's had a good week.

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Speaker 3: He was right on the money in terms of how

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Speaker 3: late the call was.

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Speaker 18: Did you want any money or food or something.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not allowed money and food on competitions on

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Speaker 3: this radio station. So members of the staff. It's the

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Speaker 3: classic old rule. It's members of the staff. Again, it's

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Speaker 3: not the way.

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Speaker 18: We got nothing.

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Speaker 3: He just got kudos exactly. So he was a winner there.

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Speaker 3: But as for have you ever been on jury duty?

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Speaker 2: I got called up for it.

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Speaker 3: I got called up for it once and then I

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Speaker 3: just yeah, I was too I was too busy at work,

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Speaker 3: like like like you like work letter, what's that did

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Speaker 3: you write an arm to work letter. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they kept me. That went away and.

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Speaker 15: They went away.

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Speaker 14: I sort of.

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Speaker 3: I actually I have thought at times, oh, I wouldn't mind.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind trying it.

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Speaker 3: But then when I heard about Sam, who's got like

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Speaker 3: you say, three weeks to spare? Who's got who's got

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Speaker 3: time to sit in a room with eleven other people?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon the ratio of gornmlous idiots is

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Speaker 3: twelve randomly selected people. I reckon it's eighty two percent.

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Speaker 9: It's it's right up there, cormous idiots, people who have

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Speaker 9: no clue. There's certainly not your peers, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I stood in Bob Jones's office once and he was smoked.

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Speaker 3: He was smoking his pipe in his office, steering out

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Speaker 3: of the Wellington Harbor, and he said, I was called

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Speaker 3: up for jury duty the other day. And I said,

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Speaker 3: how'd that go for you? He goes, I've never seen

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Speaker 3: the like. Do you realize, Mike Puff Puff Puff? There

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Speaker 3: were people in that room wearing tracksuit pants. What has

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Speaker 3: the world come to?

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Speaker 18: Why if you're settling in for three weeks, you should

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Speaker 18: be in your trackees.

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Speaker 15: You'd be in your trackies, and if you were doing it,

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Speaker 15: if you were called up.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, they would call your name, I think,

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Speaker 12: and a lawyer would immediately go challenge you.

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Speaker 3: Just you wouldn't even get out of your seat exactly,

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Speaker 3: but you'd be there and one of one of your

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Speaker 3: T shirts. I would rather, I would rather I would run.

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Speaker 3: Part of my problem with jury duty is you're not

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Speaker 3: being judged by your peers. Are you the average person

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Speaker 3: in court being judged by anyone who's got a job

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Speaker 3: and is professional and is generally a half decent human being.

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Speaker 3: Is not the peer of the person in court in general,

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Speaker 3: are they?

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Speaker 9: No, You're lying one hundred percent on your lawyer, as

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Speaker 9: proven in the pulking Horn case.

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Speaker 18: You're relying on your lawyer, not your jury.

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Speaker 14: Although for more.

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Speaker 3: Judge a good lawyer, I argue for more judge trials

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Speaker 3: because they're generally sort of cognizant, know what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: They're voluntarily there anyway, or and or and I'm slightly

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Speaker 3: weak on this, but and or a group of people

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Speaker 3: who'd be keen. My fear for the group of people

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Speaker 3: who be keen is you have trainspose you get, you get,

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Speaker 3: you get self selecting busy bodies, and you're sort of

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Speaker 3: creating I think a like a like a class of

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Speaker 3: professional jurors.

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Speaker 2: That's the last thing you want.

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Speaker 3: And then they have Well, I'll tell you what. I

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Speaker 3: was on three trials last year and I was right

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Speaker 3: on every single one of them. What about you? Are

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Speaker 3: you trial four? Are you get a lot of that?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you? Oh, you'll find this judge likes to say X,

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Speaker 3: Y and Z.

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Speaker 4: I would dismiss it.

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this voice?

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Speaker 3: I don't know because it sounded good when we started

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Speaker 3: a question for you, Katie going into the break, When

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Speaker 3: did the phrase clapse back become a thing? More shortly?

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Speaker 3: Thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio News.

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Speaker 3: Talksippy News Talks sixteen past eight.

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for Fear

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 3: The answer, Kadie, when did it becomes.

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Speaker 18: What it means?

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Speaker 3: Or I just saw you had another headline this morning,

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Speaker 3: so and so claps back? When did that become a.

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Speaker 18: Saying, well, claps you know what a clapback is?

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Speaker 14: What is it?

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01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I know what it is, but I just want it

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 3: becomes its seemingly a trendy thing that everyone needs to

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Speaker 3: say now.

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Speaker 18: I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's new that

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Speaker 18: the media are using it. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: So it's been around for ages?

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Speaker 14: Has it?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It has I've heard.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's like ten years, right, kay, Katie?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we've grown up with you know, We've

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Speaker 9: raised five children who've all clapped back many times.

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Speaker 18: It's sas, it's giving you a serve.

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Speaker 9: It's a sarcastic quip or remark or you know, responding

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Speaker 9: to criticism quickly.

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Speaker 18: We we've you know, how how is that not familiar

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Speaker 18: to you?

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01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: Well? Because I'm probably a dinosaur. So two morals questions

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: for you? Are you ready the woman from TV and

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Speaker 3: Z whose name I've momentarily forgotten, takes who allegedly is

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: going to be in charge of everything at TB and

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 3: Z takes personal leave to go on the protest much

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Speaker 3: given who she is and who she works for, is

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Speaker 3: that wise and acceptable?

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Or no?

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Speaker 3: Katie?

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Speaker 9: I've thought about this a lot because having worked with

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Speaker 9: the execs at both TV and Z and ENZ ME,

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Speaker 9: I know for certain that they think very clearly. The

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Speaker 9: execsit enzed me about what they do and how they

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Speaker 9: participate in life outside of business hours, and that is

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Speaker 9: something you've got to think about.

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Speaker 18: On the one hand, she's entitled to take personal leave

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Speaker 18: and do whatever she wants.

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01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 9: On the other hand, if you're in charge of something

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Speaker 9: that affects a wide group of people, which is seen

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Speaker 9: to be got to be seen to be representing everybody,

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 9: then the minute you stick your colors to one mass,

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Speaker 9: then you're you've made it very clear you're not representing everybody,

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Speaker 9: and there they'll there'll be a clapback or a knock

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Speaker 9: on effect for your the people you represent, which is

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Speaker 9: your audience, which is your customers, which is your advertisers.

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 18: So to me, that's an own goal and she shouldn't

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Speaker 18: have done it.

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Speaker 3: Tim totally agree that TV and Z has to demonstrate impartiality.

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Speaker 4: Well, said Katie.

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Speaker 3: See because Jason was giving me the example of the

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: strip club, and he went to the legal team to ask,

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Speaker 3: is it okay if I go to the strip club?

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Speaker 9: You are so full of cracks. One Jason would never

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Speaker 9: ask that, Two that never happened, and three Jason is

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Speaker 9: the person I was thinking about.

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Speaker 15: He holds you're going to need some corroborating evidence here, Glenn,

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 15: you were there, Yeah, that this did.

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Speaker 3: This conversation did in the news at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 15: I wilso add that that, according to Miriam Webster, clapback

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01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 15: was first use. The first known use of it was

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Speaker 15: nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: WHOA, that's so embarrassed.

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Speaker 15: I feel like kind of a clapback.

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Speaker 3: To be fair to Jason, that's a mic drop. To

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: be fair to Jason, he didn't go, and he finds

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 3: it morally repugnant in gooing because he represents people and

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01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: therefore he was saying it's not acceptable behavior. But the

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: legal team said, go for you, go for gold.

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Speaker 15: Also, to be fair to Jason, he wasn't just asking

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Speaker 15: them if he could go to a strip club. He

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 15: was saying, say, for example, I was invited to a

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Speaker 15: stagdo right, right? He wasn't just going to pop down

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Speaker 15: at lunchtime.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's bright. I don't think you'd get

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Speaker 2: in anywhere near Killy within a strip club.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not true.

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 9: I think if you're an opinion based service, or if

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Speaker 9: she was an editorial writer or her job.

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: Well, she's going to be in charge of the news allegedly.

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Speaker 18: Exactly, which is supposed to be impartial. Therefore, you shouldn't

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Speaker 18: you represent impartiality?

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Speaker 3: Yeah you have to Yeah, okay, next moral question. And

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Speaker 3: this was a revelation to me. You know how John

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Speaker 3: Krasinski was named the sexiest man in the world this

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Speaker 3: week by People magazine. What I didn't realize is he

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Speaker 3: wasn't their first choice, and they go to other people

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Speaker 3: and the other people turned them down. What exactly?

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Speaker 15: Really?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Do you have to get permission?

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Speaker 1: See?

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Speaker 3: I knew this was news? I knew it. Wow, so

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Speaker 3: you got the so ho won who's the real sexiest

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Speaker 3: man in the pink pin up? So you go to

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Speaker 3: the people, you get thereby and so therefore you get

1524
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Speaker 3: the photo shooting a few comments. So they went first

1525
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Speaker 3: to Glenn Powell.

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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, that makes sense.

1527
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Speaker 3: And then when Glenn turned them down, they went to

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Speaker 3: Pedro Pascal.

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Speaker 18: Why do you turn them down?

1530
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Speaker 3: I'm so because the People magazine and being called the

1531
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Speaker 3: sexiest man in the World's why I tune them down?

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Speaker 9: The old guy because John Kristinsky would be a bit older, wouldn't.

1533
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Speaker 3: He, Johnski? And that's the problem. Everybody sexy, He's not

1534
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Speaker 3: the sexiest man, how does that work? And then people

1535
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Speaker 3: go people magazine was available.

1536
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1537
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: It's just everything is not as it seems, is my point.

1538
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 3: Until you know you dig a little bit deeper.

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01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: That's that's why we're here. This is what we do

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Speaker 2: every Friday.

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 3: We sort it out fair enough. Have you seen the

1542
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: New Zealand video by the way, just quickly?

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 18: Is it good?

1545
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 18: How would we have seen it?

1547
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Speaker 2: How would we have seen it?

1548
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 15: I feel like Tim gave you the perfect opportunity to

1549
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 15: wrap up that segment. It would have been so beautifully

1550
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 15: tied up with a bow, and then you just set

1551
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 15: the pushing on a little bit. You just didn't go

1552
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Speaker 15: on the other line.

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Speaker 18: I've got to go.

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Speaker 3: In answer to your question, Tim, they're get ready to

1555
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Speaker 3: take off video. In answer to your question, Katie, no,

1556
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Speaker 3: And that is the end of the segment eight twenty.

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Speaker 3: and stop paying too much with Chemist warehasking Mike. That's

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Speaker 3: the point track pants instant dismissal cousin Mike got called

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Speaker 3: for jury service. Sydney told it would be a five

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Speaker 3: month case. Five months luckily they were out of the country.

1584
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Speaker 3: Couple of good stories floating around in Australia at the moment.

1585
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 3: Seems weird, but they appear to have a deal. Not

1586
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: public yet, but the behind the scenes buzz is that

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: the Coalition and the Labor Government have struck a deal

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Speaker 3: to overhaul the electoral system in terms of money and

1589
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 3: a couple of problems they've got there. One's Clide Palmer

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Speaker 3: and rich blokes who spend Lord knows how much money,

1591
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Speaker 3: but if you got it, you can spend it. He

1592
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 3: apparently spent one hundred million dollars on the last election.

1593
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: But because he's got it and he can spend it,

1594
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: so they want to do something about that. The other

1595
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 3: problem they had was the Climate two hundred vehicle, which

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Speaker 3: was a funding vehicle that the Teal, the so called

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Speaker 3: Teals the Independence which aren't independent at all, of course,

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Speaker 3: because they're founded by Climate two hundred, but they use

1599
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Speaker 3: so they want to sort of try and tidy that up,

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 3: which is interesting Speaking of money, the Vach and elon

1601
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: their efficiency drive, they found three hundred and fifty thousand

1602
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Speaker 3: dollars to develop AI smart toilets. They found six hundred

1603
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Speaker 3: and sixty thousand dollars to study the impact that COVID

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Speaker 3: had on Russian women. They found seven hundred and fifty

1605
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars for the New York Metropolitan Opera fire alarm.

1606
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Speaker 3: They foundo hundred found a study on how to talk

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Speaker 3: to ignorant people about climate change. They found two million

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Speaker 3: dollars for the construction of a kelp and shellfist nurturery

1609
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Speaker 3: in Maine. And they found one hundred thousand dollars to

1610
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Speaker 3: see of Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous if you

1611
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Speaker 3: give them cocaine. They found two hundred thousand dollars to

1612
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Speaker 3: make monkeys transgender, to study HIV and trans women. And

1613
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Speaker 3: they found a million dollars to study of selfies make

1614
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Speaker 3: you happy. So they're finding good money and they've only

1615
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: just begun. News is next. Your News Talks d.

1616
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: Be setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

1617
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

1618
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Speaker 1: News togsad B Mike.

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Can the Chiefs beat the Bills in New York this

1620
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 3: Monday and remain unbeaten? Yes they can, because the Chiefs

1621
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: are a better side than the Bills are. At the moment,

1622
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: the Bills were okay, but the Chiefs are brilliant. And

1623
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: a Jets team winning in New York. Who are the

1624
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 3: Jets playing? I can't remember who they're playing, but I

1625
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: had them as a good, strong possibility. A lot of

1626
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: good stuff going on in the NFL at the moment.

1627
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys. Caleb Williams was one of

1628
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: the top drafts and he was stuck in his quarterback

1629
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 3: of the Chicago Bears. And one of the great debates

1630
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 3: around NFL is do you take kids from college and

1631
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 3: stick them into the highest level of elite sports straight away?

1632
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 3: And can they handle it? And there's plenty of evidence

1633
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 3: that suggests, broadly speaking, no, they can't. But Caleb Williams

1634
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: started really well and then he's fallen apart, and so

1635
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 3: the debate now is his career shot? Do they bench him?

1636
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 14: What do they do?

1637
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 3: And this is just a young kid who's been in

1638
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: the game for about three and a half minutes then

1639
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 3: there's another guy called Richardson. I think knows Richard Jaden Daniels.

1640
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: But the other one is Richardson who's been for the

1641
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: Colts and he's been benched. He was another guy young

1642
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: guys started, played very poorly. They benched him, and then

1643
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 3: they took in their fill in quarterback, guy called flako've

1644
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: been around for one hundred years. He was supposed to

1645
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 3: be there because he could win, except he lost three

1646
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: in a row, so they benched him and they brought

1647
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: Richardson back. So as riches and good or as riches

1648
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: and not good. You see, you're messing with young minds.

1649
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: It's a complex business. Twenty two minutes away.

1650
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: From nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

1651
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

1652
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,480
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels is a good example. He's for the Commanders

1653
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 3: and he's young and New Aiders fantastic. He's flying. So

1654
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 3: that's probably more in fl news than you were ever wanting.

1655
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: But just I feel like indulging myself on a Friday. Murray,

1656
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 3: how are you? Oh yeah, he's on the phone as well,

1657
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: because the things were murray, how are you?

1658
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,879
Speaker 14: Yeah? Good morning, Mike. I'm an Atlanta Falcons fan myself

1659
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 14: and even won anything for a long time.

1660
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: Kirk Kirk cousins, if you're following them the season, they're

1661
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: doing well because.

1662
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 14: Kirk don Okay, I'm much more on All Black fan though, Buddy.

1663
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: Much more.

1664
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 3: And I think we'll win against France, and I think

1665
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 3: there'll be three in a row, and of course obviously

1666
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 3: will beat Italy and that's a good northern tourism.

1667
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 14: Well, you think about the Wallabies, and I mean that

1668
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 14: thrilling went over England and made sure that leaked a

1669
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 14: lot of points. And we'll both sides of it for

1670
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 14: that matter. But I'll tell you what, there's a spring

1671
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 14: in the Wallaby step. But over here Wallaby fans are

1672
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 14: emerging from under the doner saying, bloody hell, did we

1673
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 14: just win something good? Who's this Joe Schmidt that he's

1674
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 14: the Messiah? A minute ago they're saying, get rid of

1675
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 14: that bloody key wee case man one on Asie. Now

1676
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 14: they're saying, oh, jokey, buy you a new car, what

1677
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 14: about a new home. But here's the thing. The Australians

1678
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 14: have only won in the last decade. This was a

1679
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 14: good stat in the paper. I saw They've only won

1680
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 14: two or more consecutive tests nine times.

1681
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 3: Wow.

1682
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 14: So in the last decade they've lost the following test

1683
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 14: nineteen times. They've lost the following test after a single win.

1684
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 3: I know it's Wales, but oh the beat Wales. Everyone

1685
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 3: g beats Whales. Murray.

1686
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think at christ His Boys High School first

1687
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 14: at fifteen good beat Whales.

1688
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: At the moment, I think I think they'll be Okay,

1689
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: you had a bit of a cold.

1690
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 11: I have.

1691
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 14: I've got a bit of bronchitis this morning.

1692
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to call the siegment twin end?

1693
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Or would you?

1694
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 14: Percent? Fine? Mate? One hundercent? Fine? Love talking to you

1695
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 14: every week.

1696
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: Well that's good. It's just you. Notice how caring I

1697
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 3: am these days? So Rudd. I read the editorial this

1698
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: morning on the Sydney Morning Here. Oh god, they are

1699
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 3: left leaning paper at times, aren't they. They're busy games

1700
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 3: may not press. So you can't hide from what Rudd

1701
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: said because the Sydney Morning Herald are trying to defend him.

1702
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: You can't hide from that. And it's going to cause

1703
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 3: trouble with Trump, isn't it.

1704
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 14: Well yeah it could. I supposed of any how snarky

1705
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 14: he wants to be. I mean, you know, his vice

1706
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 14: president had called himy a lot worse than he heeds

1707
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 14: alongside Trump right now, So I mean, look, the fact

1708
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 14: of the matter is over here both sides of politics.

1709
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 14: I think Kevin Rudd's doing a hell of a good job.

1710
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 14: He's a China specialist, speaks the language, He's just done

1711
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 14: a biography of the Chinese president. She and he's super

1712
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,520
Speaker 14: super well regarded in Washington by both sides of politics.

1713
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 14: So Donald Trump wants to come along and say, okay,

1714
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 14: out to go. We're not you know, there's no way

1715
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 14: known we're going to have you as the Australian ambassador.

1716
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 14: Is you're going to do that? We're not sure. But

1717
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 14: this is really it's not even a beat out. This

1718
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 14: is a confected story from Sky News. They've got these

1719
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 14: old outtakes of Kevin rudbying cranky, and we know he

1720
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 14: can be super cranky and saying, you know, all these

1721
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 14: bad things about Donald Trump. He's got the first one

1722
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 14: to say bad stuff about Trump, is he? So is

1723
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 14: he going to get the flick?

1724
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 16: Will?

1725
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 14: Apparently not. He's doing a hell of a good job

1726
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 14: from all accounts. And there's no way Albanize's going to

1727
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 14: remove them.

1728
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 3: No, they should remove Elbanisi though, because he isn't doing

1729
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 3: a good job in the polls show.

1730
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 14: He's oh no kidding, I mean this week news poll

1731
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 14: just been poll after poll, very very bad news and

1732
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 14: deep for labor. This look at my notes, see you

1733
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 14: there you go. The Coalition now regarded as the best

1734
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 14: party to manage cost of living. The poll found three

1735
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 14: out of four respondents citing cost of living as the

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 14: number one issue heading into the election next year. Now,

1737
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 14: a minute ago, labor was ahead of the Coalition forty

1738
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 14: three to twenty two percent. That was two years ago.

1739
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 14: So now the Coalition on many metrics has passed. Labor

1740
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 14: inflation trending down, but more people working. But consumers just

1741
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 14: aren't feeling any love that you know, when they go

1742
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 14: to the petrol pump that's costing eighty bucks to fill

1743
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 14: the car. It was only costing sixty bucks a minute ago.

1744
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 14: The same with the grocery card.

1745
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: Costs you it cost you eighty. But yesterday I was

1746
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: at the petrol station, Murray, it cost me one hundred

1747
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 3: and sixty seven.

1748
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 14: Yeah, but that Bentley really sucks that she.

1749
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 3: Does big tanks. I'll give you that parts.

1750
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 14: Got and like, I'm glad of not playing that exit me.

1751
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: But the point is, and I think I might be

1752
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: proved to be ultimately right on this Murray, is that

1753
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 3: Dunton might well be electable.

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01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 14: Oh sure, after the way that he's taking skin off

1755
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 14: labor and he's not doing anything particularly smart. He's simply

1756
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 14: opposing what Tony Abbat did a decade ago, and he

1757
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 14: was extremely effective. He won government on the fact he

1758
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 14: was just saying no all the time.

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 17: No.

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Speaker 14: But he stopped the boats as you know, all that stuff.

1761
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 14: And D's a straight out of They Have It playbook.

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Speaker 14: The other big thing, Mike that's going to feed into

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01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 14: Dutton and put wind in his sales is the It's

1764
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 14: what we saw in the United States election. I mean

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 14: immigration here is another big issue the people here. It's

1766
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 14: not going to take the opposition long to get a

1767
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 14: big stick and start something later over the head without

1768
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 14: about immigration.

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01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hold on on housing, here's your problem.

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 3: Part of that immigration boom, I mean, apart from the

1771
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 3: fact you're an attractive place to live obviously, but part

1772
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 3: of that immigration boom, and a big chunk of it

1773
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 3: is new Zealanders and with our relationship, you can't stop

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Speaker 3: us coming.

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Speaker 14: That's true, But how do I guess what happens? You know,

1776
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 14: Kiwis come over here and they start, you know, they

1777
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 14: take jobs, and next all of a sudden they keeping

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01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 14: ten or a dozen Australians out of work because they

1779
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 14: work their bloody hearty good skills you know, language skills

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 14: as well, and they come and they and they work

1781
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 14: jolly hard. I'm not saying that other migrants don't. But

1782
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 14: what you've got to hundreds of thousands of students here

1783
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,879
Speaker 14: manipulating visas, according to critics, to stay on beyond their degrees.

1784
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 14: They're not going home. They're getting family to come here

1785
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 14: as well. People are getting fed up with congestion on

1786
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 14: the roads. You can't get services, you know, government services

1787
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 14: and along lines all over the place. And what Peter

1788
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 14: Dutton is already trying out things like, you know, are

1789
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 14: you're better off now than you were?

1790
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: Interesting?

1791
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 14: And that's got a lot of potency.

1792
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: I reckon. I'm not surprised having said that, speaking of

1793
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: this is tied to the Americans. This deal allegedly between

1794
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: Labor and the Coalition about spending what you can in

1795
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: Clive Palmer and Climate two hundred and all that is

1796
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: that real? And what are they going to do?

1797
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 14: Well? Is it really? Look I don't know is it

1798
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 14: really or not? Because both sides it's like, I mean,

1799
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 14: they're junkies, both sides, but both sides of politics are

1800
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 14: addicted to donations. In the beginning of town. On Labor side,

1801
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 14: the Union rid tips in millions and millions of dollars

1802
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 14: every year. On the other side, you know, it's the

1803
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 14: likes of Gina Reinhart and other big don't There is

1804
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 14: big wealth individuals who are tipping money into the coalition

1805
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 14: war chest. Are they going to stop that? I can't

1806
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 14: see it happening. I mean, there's too much at stake.

1807
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 14: You need those ads and the lead up to an election,

1808
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 14: Who's going to pay for them? I mean, you know,

1809
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 14: both sides have got a shrinking supporter base. Once upon

1810
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 14: a time people would sign up and would be Labor

1811
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 14: Party members. They manned the boobs at elections. The same

1812
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 14: with the Liberal Party. Not too many of them left anymore.

1813
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 3: Mike, It's the truth, all right, mate, Go on seeing next.

1814
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Frida Murray olds out of Australia eight forty five.

1815
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: The High asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1816
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1817
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 3: At be having Bag these Sydney Morning Herald of Maama

1818
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: Guy do actually like a very big, good bit of

1819
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: writing yesterday The people who have owned and run fashion

1820
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 3: Week in Australia. Of course, fashion Week in this country

1821
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: is sort of fell by the wayside, and it was

1822
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: all very sad if you go back long enough. It

1823
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: was kind of a thing for a while there, and

1824
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: all the loviies were involved, and people came down to

1825
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: the country and it was a big deal and buyers

1826
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 3: came and there was plenty of coverage and you'd have

1827
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 3: build up and it's etcetera. And the same thing sadly

1828
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 3: has happened in Australia because I amg they've abandoned responsibility

1829
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 3: and they've held it since two thousand and five and

1830
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: the demise was beautifully written about. Have you landed in

1831
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: the front row in the on trend golden years at

1832
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: Fox Studios and then Circular Key you could have rubbed

1833
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 3: shoulders with Italian vogues and a Piagi or supermodel Jerry Hall.

1834
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: This year at Carriagericks and Redfern. You were lucky to

1835
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 3: be seated with a married at first site survivor nicely

1836
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: noticing you veggies is so much cheaper. I mean, if

1837
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 3: I asked you as the price of everything coming down,

1838
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 3: you'd go no, and you'd be wrong. Monthly food prices

1839
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: fell Overall, monthly food prices fell again in October zero

1840
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 3: point nine percent. Vegetables down seven point two percent. Over

1841
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 3: the last two years, vegetables have gone down fourteen point

1842
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 3: two percent. If you had the latest sparagus, absolutely superb

1843
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: at the moment asparagus, and at good prices too. Fruit

1844
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: prices are up, but they're full of sugar anyway, so

1845
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: go for the vegetables and the leafy greens. Overall, fruit

1846
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: and vegies are down, though if you combine them together,

1847
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 3: they're down four percent in October. And the only thing,

1848
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: as far as I can work out two questions for you,

1849
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: the only thing I can work out that's really still

1850
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 3: going up in price are restaurant meals, ready to eat meals.

1851
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: So if you can't be bothered cooking, that's on you,

1852
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: and you go out and grab something conveniently, and that's

1853
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: why you're paying for nians and they're still going up.

1854
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: So restaurant up three point four and ready to eat

1855
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: two point five. And that's I suspect something to do

1856
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: with the labor costs. So if you don't have to

1857
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: do that and the other prices. Of course everyone owns

1858
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 3: about butter. Now, butter's through the roof. Obviously, butter is

1859
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: one of the most expensive things you can buy. You

1860
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 3: buy a block of gold or a block of butter.

1861
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: They're basically the same thing these days. But you need butter.

1862
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I like butter. I mean, butter's good.

1863
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean so, I'm not asking you whether you like butter.

1864
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you whether you would miss butter. I'm

1865
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 3: not asking you whether a piece of sod oata nicer butter.

1866
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: None of that, saying do you need it? And the

1867
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 3: answer is you don't. Therefore you can take out of

1868
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: your grocery bills something pretty substantive, because I'd argue you

1869
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 3: probably need milk. Most people need milk. I don't, but

1870
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: most people probably do. That's gone up as well nine percent.

1871
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: But the butter is the killer olive oil and butter.

1872
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: If you took butter and olive oil out of your

1873
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 3: weekly shop, you'd be better off. Literally, you would be

1874
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 3: better off.

1875
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 15: Better than none. None of your cooking would work properly.

1876
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 3: Well, it depends how much cooking's going on. Is clearly

1877
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 3: there's no cooking going on because everyone's out there with

1878
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 3: the restaurant meals and it's ready to take away. See well,

1879
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 3: if that's a no win situation, the no win situation, Glenn,

1880
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: that's exactly what it is. Nine minutes away from nine.

1881
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: Mike Costing breakfast with the Range Rover, Bila.

1882
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 3: News Toss micah beas's included in the food prices. Yes,

1883
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 3: they are because it continues to increase. My dozen Carlsburg

1884
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 3: used to be between twenty and twenty two, now up

1885
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,759
Speaker 3: around twenty eight. Yeah, that alcohol, it's all the stuff

1886
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 3: you don't need in your life. It's ready to go.

1887
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 3: It's restaurant meals, it's beer, it's butter. Cut all that

1888
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: out and you'll find that life is actually cheaper. I'm

1889
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 3: not saying do it because you'll be miserable, but you know,

1890
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to save your money. Butter mic is cheap.

1891
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: Olive oil cost me sixty dollars a week. Let me

1892
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 3: give you a tip on oliver. We've got a fusty

1893
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 3: and a fusty is two things. One, it's quite a

1894
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 3: good looking thing. They come in shapes and sizes, but

1895
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 3: they generally, because they're Italian, they come in quite cool

1896
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 3: looking shapes and sizes. And you put that on your bench,

1897
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: and depending on what sort of size you buy, buy

1898
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: a twenty liter one if you want, but you can

1899
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 3: get a ten let. We got a ten liter one,

1900
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 3: and we buy our oil in bulk. And when you

1901
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: buy it in bulk, of course it's a lot cheaper

1902
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 3: per liter, and therefore you save money. Plus you've got

1903
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 3: a cool thing on your bench. So what is it

1904
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 3: a fusty? It's a container for olive oil.

1905
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 15: It just keeps saying fusty, well.

1906
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 3: Because that's what it's cool. It's like saying, you know,

1907
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,839
Speaker 3: what is a scalpel? A scalpels a knife. A fusty

1908
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: is a container for olive oil.

1909
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 15: It's oh, there, we've got there.

1910
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, generally stainless steel looking vessel for olive oil,

1911
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: and it keeps it fresh forever, as far as they

1912
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: can work out. Five minutes away from nine.

1913
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 2: Trending now to help with chemist were savings every day.

1914
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 3: These handy hook victims, big win because the outlet satirical

1915
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 3: news outlet The Onion has gone and purchased Jones Media

1916
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: platform Info Wolves with a bid sanctioned by the Sandy

1917
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Hook families during the bankruptcy option Now Jones when he

1918
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 3: hood he was in shock.

1919
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 14: The Connecticut Democrats with The Onion newspaper.

1920
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 15: Bought us.

1921
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: They asked you they outbed They said, well, it was competitive,

1922
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 2: so they changed all the bidding rules, made it secret

1923
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: two days ago.

1924
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 14: I had a bad feeling. I told you that.

1925
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: And just like they tried to shut us down back

1926
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: in late May without a court order. They're supposed to

1927
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: have a court order.

1928
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: There's going to be injunctions filed.

1929
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 12: I'm about to go live out of Harrison's American Journal studio.

1930
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 15: I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm going

1931
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 15: to be here till they come in there.

1932
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: Internal lights off.

1933
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 3: He then went back online briefly.

1934
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 4: Hey, shut off any moment, Pray for us, be nonviolent,

1935
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: go blessed.

1936
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 11: We're not no now.

1937
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: These folks are just pawns.

1938
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: They don't even know what they're doing.

1939
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 14: All right, stay with us.

1940
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 3: The Onions say they please, They say they land to

1941
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 3: turn it into a parody website, mocking weird Internet's PERSONALITIESUO

1942
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 3: pedal conspiracy theories, and that's so good.

1943
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 15: It'd be like if TVNS had brought this show.

1944
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 3: Stay on, We're go on, Hold on there coming now,

1945
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 3: we're out of here. You have a fabulous weekend and

1946
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: we'll look forward to your company on Monday's always happy days.

1947
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Did tell me baby? Are you banging down me? Here?

1948
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Are you banging down me? Are you thanking bout me?

1949
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1950
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: news Talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1951
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio