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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store US Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six hours to five.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company this morning. The big yarn,

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Speaker 2: the big story today is of course Joe Biden giving

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Speaker 2: the green light to these long range missiles that Ukraine

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Speaker 2: out and saying this is going to be World War Iie,

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Speaker 2: we haven't heard from Putin yet, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: speak to a former Soviet Union military expert out of

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Speaker 2: the United States. What does Key think Putin will do

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Speaker 2: with this? The hikoy will go to the back bench

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Speaker 2: of Hub. We've got crime stats ministers happy, but how

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Speaker 2: does business feel? Plus Andrew Bailey has a new job

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Speaker 1: The agenda it is to.

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Speaker 2: Say the nineteenth to November high value targets. US authorities

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Speaker 2: are investigating a possible organized crime targeting sports stars while

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Speaker 2: they're away playing the NBA. The NFL players have all

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Speaker 2: been targeted, apparently, including bucks Ford, Bobby Porters.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all the love and support you gods showed me

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Speaker 3: over the weekend regarding the home invasion. I am now

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Speaker 3: offering a forty k cash reward for any information of

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't put how rich you are on Instagram. That's

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Speaker 2: the problem. Kim Kardashian found that out the hardway, didn't she.

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Speaker 2: Summer of disruption for Air New Zealand, a fourth Dreamliner

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Speaker 2: Airlines around the world are having to ground their seven

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Speaker 2: Just to get home? Anyway? Seventy engines affected. Apparently all

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Speaker 2: have to be inspected. This all takes time. Hard to

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Speaker 2: breathe in Lahore this morning, pollution fifteen times the World

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Speaker 3: If we stay home, what will we do? We have

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Speaker 4: There is no other option.

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Speaker 3: Not everyone is a job or we do we had

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Speaker 2: Apparently it's vehicle emissions and crop burning that's doing this damage.

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Speaker 2: Looking for a job at the moment, well, good luck everybody.

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Speaker 2: There are numbers coming in the show in just a second,

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and

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Speaker 1: applying store news Talk.

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Speaker 2: Za'd be nine two ninety two is the number of

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Speaker 2: text we'd love to hear from you this morning. How

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Speaker 2: are we feeling about the hkoy The protest being pretty

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Speaker 2: peaceful so far. Be all done and dusted by the

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Speaker 2: end of today. Saw this story in the Herald yesterday

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Speaker 2: a story about NCA level three, So you're what seventeen

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Speaker 2: So it's a statistics question. The statistics paper used the

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Speaker 2: Survey finds people easily locate their rare end but the

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Speaker 2: Sixty three percent could find their heart, sixty three percent

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Speaker 2: It's official Planet Earth. We have failed to stop global warming.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, New for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and a playing store,

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Speaker 2: Siddy coming up, Andrew Bailey on scams Before six. We're

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Speaker 2: going to ask a former Soviet Union military expert how

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Speaker 2: escalation in the Ukraine War. Right now, we've got numbers

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Speaker 2: from Seat. This is their employment report of report for October.

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Speaker 2: Not improving in a hurry. These numbers down one percent

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Speaker 2: month on month, down three percent quarter on quarter, down

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Speaker 2: And actually, if you look across the year, job ads

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Speaker 2: on crime stats. Here they are ram raids. This is

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Speaker 2: a January to December twenty three versus twenty four. Ram

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought there'd be a correlation. Total victimizations

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is Ash Palmer. He's the vice Chairpisson

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Speaker 2: for Darian Business Owners Group. Ash. Good morning, Good morning Rain.

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Speaker 2: These numbers sound right to you, Yeah, they.

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Speaker 6: Do, especially the RAM grades. You know, it was a

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Speaker 6: But police has clammed down and a lot of these

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Speaker 2: my mind is blown. Ginny Anderson didn't want to come

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Speaker 2: on the show to talk about these numbers. By the way, the.

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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: furniture beds and a playing store. News Talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Putting up to five just on the stats. In terms

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Speaker 2: is the worst place for commercial breakings. That's breakens to

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Speaker 2: commercial premises businesses. Things like that. I'll do in just

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Speaker 2: a second. On the Level three NCAA question, you know,

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Speaker 2: can you locate your private parts, your elbow, your rectum

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Speaker 2: He says, Hi, Ryan, if they can't find their rectum,

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Speaker 2: how on earth do they wipe their bums? Bex, It's

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Speaker 2: a very good question. Another one here on the here Coy.

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Speaker 2: Everyone at the hecy needs to go home and have

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Speaker 2: a cup of teena lie down, as the bill is

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Speaker 2: not going anywhere anyway. Twenty one after five Ryan Bridge scams,

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Speaker 2: Commerce and Consumer FIRS, Minister Andrew Bailey has been given

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Speaker 2: a new hat to wear of sorts. He's become the

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Speaker 2: Minister in charge of scam busting nets. Safe for Releases

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Speaker 2: data today which shows almost one in five of us

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Speaker 2: have been directly affected. Scam losses could be anywhere between

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Speaker 2: two hundred million and two point three billion dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey's with me this morning. Good morning minister, Good

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Speaker 2: morning Ryan. Tell me, is this a new job for you.

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Speaker 7: Well, I've already started doing it under commerce in Small Business.

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Speaker 7: So at the beginning of this year I wrote to

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Speaker 2: All Right, so you're the scam guy. Why the discrepancy,

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Speaker 2: Why two hundred there's anti scams anti scam guy two

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Speaker 7: Two different things. So the report of scams per animal

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Speaker 2: So two hundred million is what we know we've been

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Speaker 7: If if the topic figure, I always worked off a billion,

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Speaker 2: Plans, which it's going to make it very hard. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well I'm not I'm not inspired with hope that you're

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Speaker 7: Well, that's one of the three things I asked them

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Speaker 7: So there's three actors we've got to really focus on. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: Well, that's where I'm having discussions with the banks.

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Speaker 2: And when's out when you're expecting an outcome from that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Batti, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk to a former Soviet Union military

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Speaker 2: green light for long range missiles. They won't better to

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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge, do you.

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Speaker 2: Know what really grinds my gears When I go to

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Speaker 2: it's inappropriate, and it's inconsiderate. Have a thought for those

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Speaker 2: Good lord? Right, anyway, there's my rent for today. It

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,

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Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It's twenty four away from six.

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Speaker 2: Yer on News Talk said, be the big story today

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Speaker 2: is Joe Biden giving the green light to these long

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Speaker 2: range missiles to go into Russia from Ukraine. Putin is

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Speaker 2: fired up. Trump is fired up. In fact, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Junior has tweeted the military industrial complex seems to want

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Speaker 2: to make sure they get World War three going before

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Speaker 2: my father has a chance to create peace and save lives.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that with a former USSR military expert.

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Speaker 2: How does Putin respond to something like that, because remember

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Speaker 2: Putin's words and they you know, there's a lot of bluster,

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Speaker 2: We got to Colum Procter and Dunedin. Turnout for that

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Speaker 2: meeting last night on the hospital there Callum, Good Morning Ryan.

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Speaker 5: About a thousand people turned up at Dunedin's town hall

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Speaker 2: Its hospital protests.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather today, Callum.

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Speaker 5: Occasional rain develops this afternoon for Daneeda North Easterly's easing

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Speaker 2: The high twenty one brilliant. Thank you Claire. A plea

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Speaker 9: Yes, this is the Southern Institute of Technology campus out

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Speaker 9: Nice and fine here in christ Church, bit of high

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We're going live to Wellington now. Azariah Howe

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Speaker 8: Already a number of people have parked their cars by

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Speaker 8: They're calling on the government to do the same. Police

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Speaker 8: There's already this vibe of anticipation building on the streets

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Speaker 2: Absolutely given that the government is voting it down at

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Speaker 2: Okay, and how's the weather for the hecuoy today? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Fine with northerly is the high of seventeen and clear skies.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you Neivas and Auckland neither the food scraps bins,

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Speaker 2: For some people, yeah, for us, how are they doing?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 10: We've got some statistics on this. This will you know,

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Speaker 10: make your day. So we know that more than thirty

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Speaker 10: thousand tons of food scraps here and all have been collected.

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Speaker 10: Now this is since the trial he rolled out across

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Speaker 10: this city in April last year. So we can tell

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Speaker 10: you that they've been used to produce fertilizer for farmers,

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Speaker 10: enough renewable gas to provide power to three hundred thousand

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Speaker 10: homes for a month, and by using the bin Aucklanders

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Speaker 10: have saved the same amount of greenhouse GAES emissions as

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Speaker 10: taking six thousand cars off the road, Ryan, or the

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Speaker 10: equivalent of planting half a million trees.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it.

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 10: I'm the same as you. I don't have one.

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Speaker 2: No, no one uses it.

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Speaker 12: No they don't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I shouldn't say that. I think it's

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Speaker 2: about forty percent of people who use it. But you

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Speaker 2: have to pay for it whether you use it or not.

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Speaker 2: That's my issue, which is eighty bucks a year.

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Speaker 10: We're not committed, though, are we.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't really care. Well, we just the one

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Speaker 2: point five percent degree warming. We dismissed that target overnight.

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Speaker 10: So hey go hear'd you're routing about the grunters at

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Speaker 10: the gym?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're a grunter.

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Speaker 11: Yes I am.

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Speaker 2: Are you actually get out of here?

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Speaker 11: I am?

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Speaker 10: If I'm doing boobies waits the bark as it said,

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Speaker 10: sense of achievement. But I have, you know, tried to tone

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Speaker 10: it down because I've seen people looking at me going, oh, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably me. Could you do it without the

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Speaker 2: grunting or does it help? Actually it helps, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe you. Honestly, more guests than a food waste bin.

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Speaker 2: What's the weather like today?

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Speaker 1: Fine?

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Speaker 10: Hive twenty one big at the gym.

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Speaker 2: Later, thank you, neither. It has just gone seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from Sex News.

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Speaker 1: Talksb International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind.

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Speaker 1: For New Zealand business, it.

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Speaker 2: Is called Sex News Talk deb Donna Demo's Our Australia

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Speaker 2: correspondent Donna. The Sydney broadcaster Alan Jones has been charged

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Speaker 2: with twenty four and decent assaultant sexual touching offense charges.

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Speaker 4: Yes, for many, many years, For thirty five years. In fact,

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Speaker 4: Alan Jones was a broadcaster ruling the airwaves nationally and

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Speaker 4: particularly across Sydney in the eighties. In fact, he was

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Speaker 4: also Australia's rugby union coach, including a leading as to

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Speaker 4: victory in the nineteen eighty six Bledislow Cup. But these

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Speaker 4: charges have been laid. These historical indecent assault charges spanning

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Speaker 4: two decades. We've heard from the New Southwest Police Commissioner

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Speaker 4: Karen Webb, who says detectives have been working tirelessly on

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Speaker 4: this investigation. A total of twenty four offenses, including eleven

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Speaker 4: allegations of aggravated indecent assault. The eighty three year old

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Speaker 4: arrested at his luxury apartment in Sydney's Circular Key yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The youngest alleged victim is seventeen years old. Now he

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Speaker 4: has been granted bail to a reappear in court on

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Speaker 4: December eighteen. His lawyer says Jones denies any misconduct and

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Speaker 4: we know that the Assistant Commissioner also said that historical

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Speaker 4: matters are incredibly hard to investigate and bring before the courts.

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Speaker 2: Notorious for having a big mouth, is he said anything

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Speaker 2: about this?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: No, not a word, not a.

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Speaker 2: Word, Dona, thank you for that, Dona Tomayo, our Australia

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Speaker 2: correspondent on Alan Joyce thirteen minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Sex Bryan Bridge koy.

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Speaker 2: The protest happening in the capitol today and already we've

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Speaker 2: heard from our reporter there's chanting, there's singing going on.

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Speaker 2: Alistair Boyce is the back bench pub owners with us live.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Alistair, good morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 11: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: I've got you good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Are you there? Can you see anything yet? And what

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Speaker 2: plans have you got for your business today?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I've arrived about twenty past five, had to come

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Speaker 11: through a police checkpoint. The area's already got some occupation.

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Speaker 11: There's a group of ten gang members at the base

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Speaker 11: of Kate Ship and Place, waving flags so it's all

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Speaker 11: well out of the way.

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Speaker 2: What sort of gang members, what patches that happen Mungle?

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Speaker 2: What flags are they waving?

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Speaker 11: It's Mary style flags and gang flags.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 11: My wife was a bit concerned. I don't have an issue.

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Speaker 11: You will remember to endure the occupation protest for four weeks,

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Speaker 11: so it's an unusual situation. And I was also here

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Speaker 11: for the original hackoways with the sea bed and foreshore.

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Speaker 2: Do you are you your opening today? Right? You might

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Speaker 2: as to get more absolutely, you might as to get

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Speaker 2: more business out of it, you reckon.

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Speaker 11: Well, it should be a boon for Wellington. What our

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Speaker 11: man needs to do is stop thinking about attending the

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Speaker 11: protest and thinking about catering for the protest, keeping the

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Speaker 11: street tape, and keep business and functioning and treating it

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Speaker 11: like a stadium event, except in that parliament. So it

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Speaker 11: should be an economic boon for the city. And if

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Speaker 11: we approached it in that manner, I think everyone would

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Speaker 11: be a lot better off.

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Speaker 2: All right, he's hoping, Alistair, thanks so much for your

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Speaker 2: time this morning. Best to like Alistair. Boyce Backbenchi pub owner.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven minutes away from six Bryan Bridge. Now,

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Speaker 2: the big story today is what's going on in Russia

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Speaker 2: right now. So Putin is so far not commenting, not speaking.

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Speaker 2: But Biden has given the green lights to these powerful

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Speaker 2: long range missiles to be used inside Russia, something he

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Speaker 2: hasn't done before. They've got a range of three hundred

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Speaker 2: kilometers on them, and that it's thought that they will

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Speaker 2: be used primarily in the Kursk region. There are two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty military Russian military targets that you can

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Speaker 2: hit there, including seventeen air bases. Now, Putin previously has

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Speaker 2: said about these weapons, if you allow the Ukrainians to

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Speaker 2: use them, then you are effectively declaring war on NATO,

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Speaker 2: would effectively be declaring war on Russia, which is a

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Speaker 2: huge escalation. So why now, Why is Biden, when he's

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Speaker 2: a couple of months from being out of office, why

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Speaker 2: now is he saying this is the time that you

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Speaker 2: can fire them. Have a listener, This is just a

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Speaker 2: sound of these are missiles sound like By the way,

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Speaker 2: they've got one hundred and seventy kilograms worth of payload

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Speaker 2: in their warhead. So for two years Biden says, note,

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Speaker 2: can't use the note, can't use them then two months

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Speaker 2: before leaving office, says greenlight. What's up with that? You

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Speaker 2: can tell who else is not too happy about this

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Speaker 2: aside from Pertin, and that's Donald Trump. In fact, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump Junior has tweeted this morning the military industrial complex

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Speaker 2: seems to want to make sure that they get World

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Speaker 2: War III before my father has a chance to create

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Speaker 2: peace and save lives, because this will escalate things, mark

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Speaker 2: my words. Zelenski, for his part, says, a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk in the media about US receiving permission, but strikes

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Speaker 2: are not carried out with words. Such things are not announced.

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Speaker 2: Missiles will speak for themselves, and you can bet your

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Speaker 2: bottom dollar in the next twenty four hours they're likely to.

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Speaker 1: Ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,

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Speaker 1: Beds and a playing Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk zed B Good Morning New Zealand, Tuesday the

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Speaker 2: nineteenth and November seven away from six year on news

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Speaker 2: Talk said B, I'll tell you why we're playing the

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Speaker 2: song in just a second. We were supposed to speak

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Speaker 2: to Dimitry Goreenberg a few moments ago. He's a Russian

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Speaker 2: security expert and knows a hell of a lot about

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Speaker 2: how Russia might respond if Ukraine uses these long range

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Speaker 2: missiles that Biden has given them the chance to use

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Speaker 2: or the permission to use. We were hoping to get

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Speaker 2: him up, but we haven't done that unfortunately. Mike, Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure have more of this on his show very quickly.

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Speaker 2: This is a text from one of our viewers, our

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Speaker 2: listeners rather, Kate says, Ryan, great show, Thank you Kate. However,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you refer to something interesting and then you'll say

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Speaker 2: you'll have more on that coming up, and you don't

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Speaker 2: come back to it. I apologize, Kate, I know what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about. It was the number of businesses the

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Speaker 2: ranking of who has the worst business break ins in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. The answer is Rot They have forty point

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Speaker 2: three per ten thousand residents, so they are the worst

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Speaker 2: for commercial break ins at commercial premises. They had two

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven business break ins over the last year.

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Speaker 2: Number two was Napier, so not that far away. Palmes

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Speaker 2: to North Hamilton, christ Church, Hastings, Gismond, fung At a

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Speaker 2: Auckland and Nelson. The best, well, if you can call

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Speaker 2: it best. The least worst was put into a city.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, just gone six minutes an hour

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Speaker 2: away from six Crayon Bridge. Mike is here. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Mike morning. So we've what do you make of Why

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Speaker 2: would Biden, now two months out from leaving office, finally

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Speaker 2: give permission to send these long range missiles into Russia?

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Speaker 2: And he's saying it's North Korea but one of.

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Speaker 12: Two reasons, either reason sane or to put them in

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Speaker 12: a bitter negotiating position when Trump comes along. And so,

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Speaker 12: in other words, if you get some of your territory back,

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Speaker 12: you say, let's keep that territory, because that's where that's going.

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Speaker 12: I'm assuming.

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Speaker 2: But it's a high risk move, isn't it? Because Posian

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Speaker 2: could go because he has said, if you do this,

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Speaker 2: then you're effectively to carry.

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Speaker 12: A lot of things though, and that could be calling

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Speaker 12: his bluff. He said a lot of things. And ask

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Speaker 12: yourself why Putin has North Koreans involved, because he's run

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Speaker 12: out of Russian master weapons and so he's not being

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Speaker 12: remotely affected. One of the great things out of this

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Speaker 12: whole exercise, I got it wrong. I didn't think you'd

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Speaker 12: go for all of Ukraine. I thought he'd stop at

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Speaker 12: the bit that they call Russia. And the other thing

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Speaker 12: is I had no idea. I don't think many of

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Speaker 12: us did at the time. Just how incompetent he is

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Speaker 12: and how incompetent the Russian troops were, especially at the

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Speaker 12: beginning of this, and how ill prepared they were.

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Speaker 2: I've been surprised on the upside for Russia and how

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Speaker 2: resilient they have been in terms of their economy. I

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Speaker 2: mean everyone said, oh, there's sanctions will prepple them, but

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Speaker 2: they've got all the oil in the game, people buying it.

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Speaker 12: Look at who's buying it the Indian time and that

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Speaker 12: China and they're quite open about it. And Europe more

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Speaker 12: still taking the gas, not as much as much a

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Speaker 12: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the world is full of hypocrisy.

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Speaker 12: The other thing I need to raise with you, because

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Speaker 12: we've got a couple of seconds this morning, is why

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Speaker 12: are you printing on a three now? I mean, come on,

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Speaker 12: and ever since you've turned up here, you just resource

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Speaker 12: rich and so printing on a three paper and for

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Speaker 12: people who don't know what is it, you could wrap

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Speaker 12: your house.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just yeah, I'm like, person, I'm just

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Speaker 2: trying to get more and more. You have more stories

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Speaker 2: there or no for some reason.

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Speaker 12: Huge printing.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I printed on one thing on a three, and

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Speaker 2: now everything has come on a three, right, so I

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Speaker 2: need to sort out how to shrink it back.

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Speaker 12: You realize that once you print it on a three

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Speaker 12: and run out, there is no more a three, So

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Speaker 12: then what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, twice on a four or whatever.

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Speaker 12: So miracle you get to hear someone isn't it's looking

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Speaker 12: at a stage shambles.

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Speaker 2: Mike is with your next Have a great day everyone,

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Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow.

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