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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, ed B, suns Out, Tools Out. Your

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Speaker 1: summer DIY starts here The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

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Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty News Talk zed B.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, folks, we'll get it all sorted later on. Greetings,

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Speaker 2: welcome along to The Resident Builder on Sunday. My name

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Speaker 2: is Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and this is

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to talk all things building and construction you

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Speaker 2: and News Talk SeeDB on a Sunday morning. The number

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Speaker 2: to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can

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Speaker 2: text nine to nine two. You can email me as well.

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Speaker 2: It's Pete at Newstalk SIB dot co dot NZ radio.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, first and foremost, my first

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Speaker 2: opportunity to do my own show. I guess I was

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Speaker 2: here yesterday with Francesca for a bit of a chat

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon. Got back into the country on New Year's

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Speaker 2: tucked up and gone by about eight thirty, I think,

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Speaker 2: after a long flight home from the United States, which

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Speaker 2: I learned was actually in the Northern Hemisphere rather than

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Speaker 2: the Southern anyway, We're not going to repeat that particular

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Speaker 2: fault from last week's show. This is an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: talk projects, to talk ideas, to talk practicality, to talk

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Speaker 2: all things building and construction. So, because it's early in

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Speaker 2: the brand new year twenty twenty six, then I've got

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Speaker 2: no guests organized, I've got no interviews organized. It's just

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Speaker 2: first time in twenty twenty six. Really looking forward to

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it's going to be. I was

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Speaker 2: listening to but as ZB the other day and it

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Speaker 2: had a comment from Hosking saying, I really like election years,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's exciting. There's the activity, the exchange

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a really exciting year. And I

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Speaker 2: it's going to be really interesting to see the fruition

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Speaker 2: current government and put in place, and what discussions and argument,

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Speaker 2: let's say there is around intensification around the changes to

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Speaker 2: legislation around gosh, the you know, we'll start to see

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Speaker 2: a lot more detail around the compulsory building warranties for

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Speaker 2: So there'll be a couple of experts that I want

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Speaker 2: the Minister behind all of this, Chris Pink, at some

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Speaker 2: topic might be, so we'll have a chat with them.

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Speaker 2: But right now it's your show, folks. Welcome along. Oh

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Speaker 2: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be back in the studio. Nice to be

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Speaker 2: able to look through the glass and see Lock my producer,

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Speaker 2: Now that I'm back here, I've handed in the laptop

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Speaker 2: with we're back in the studio. Glorious morning sun was

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Speaker 2: coming up just after our pass five huge moon out

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Speaker 2: there as well. It was very very spectacular moon. This morning.

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Speaker 2: So we're into it and I'll tell you about this

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Speaker 2: welcome home back to work. Oh eight hundred eighty, there's

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Speaker 2: the number to call Allison A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, welcome back there. Most important questions are going to

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Speaker 3: ask did you really meet Dame Judy Dench? That's I

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting that that's out there already. I didn't,

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Speaker 2: brief chat with Jane Dame Judy Dench, and the two

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Speaker 3: Because I thought losing a hearing. So I'm glad that

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Speaker 2: You know, she was out and about and by all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll look forward.

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Speaker 3: We're really all about it in the next edited in

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Speaker 2: Say that it's not going to do me right. How

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Speaker 3: How can I help you more for a club up?

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Speaker 3: Just a general question just with concerning shawer heads on

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Speaker 3: You know, when your share head starts bruffering and all

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Speaker 3: this carry on, you go down to try and get

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Speaker 3: be able to get those that they might attend now.

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Speaker 2: No things like if you're talking about the good old

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Speaker 2: can certainly still get those and have to be replaced,

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Speaker 3: General the shower head, whether it's the actual the water,

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Speaker 3: I don't really know where the problem really is because

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Speaker 3: it comes on I say, waters, what you'd say. But

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Speaker 3: and yes to that work perfectly, you see, just thinking

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Speaker 2: The other general quick comment is that these days, you know,

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Speaker 2: and thank you very much for asking. I realized that

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Speaker 2: was very cold on that particular evening. Rdio six fourteen

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be all things building and construction, give

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Speaker 2: us a call Stephen. Good morning.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, good morning. Yes, I've got two mobility ramps,

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Speaker 5: the southern side, and one on the back of the house. Yes,

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Speaker 5: it's on the western side of the hares. All right,

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Speaker 5: I very twelve months. I have to strip them right back,

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Speaker 5: which I've just done and repainted the handrails just the top.

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Speaker 5: It seemed only the paint seems to sixty for twelve months.

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Speaker 5: Now I've done this for twelve years, cheaper h four treated.

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Speaker 5: It's done well, I think for twelve years. Maybe next

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Speaker 5: year I may have to replace them. What's happened and

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Speaker 5: as they've started to move, there's going to bend the

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Speaker 5: hand rails, great pieces of timber, the bending sideways to

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Speaker 5: year it looks like I have to replace them.

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Speaker 6: What is the best.

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Speaker 5: Way of doing that? Just to do exactly what's there

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Speaker 5: or go for a better treatment bait for it's lasted

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Speaker 5: twelve years, yeah, out in the weather. Whether I go

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Speaker 5: for something like a marine treated like I ain't sick, no.

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Speaker 2: That it probably won't be available in the profiles that

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Speaker 2: that it's there and it functions well. Would you consider

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Speaker 5: I've thought about that long, long term, but then I've

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Speaker 5: seen stainus still being used and it doesn't perform very well.

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Speaker 5: People have sort of got I must either got a

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Speaker 5: cheaper grade of stainous. But now I just I like

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Speaker 2: It looks okay, yep, that's fair enough. And is the

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Speaker 2: handrail attached to a balustrade? So your handrail is it

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Speaker 2: attached to a number of posts? And there's not like

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Speaker 2: is it a square or round profile?

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Speaker 5: Just what's a good of a three for two?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you have a look. So

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Speaker 2: for example South Pacific Timber so that I did a

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Speaker 2: a museum in our little town, and to do the

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Speaker 2: There's a special profile which looks like a bit of

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Speaker 2: basically eight B two, but then the top is profiled

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Speaker 2: into a round or an almost round profile, and that's

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Speaker 2: that would be an H three point two. It gives

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Speaker 2: you a great deal of stability over a long length

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Speaker 2: because it's it's often laminated, and it's a special handrail profile.

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Speaker 5: I can try and look it up for that would

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Speaker 5: actually shed the water a bit better than a flat.

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Speaker 2: Surface, absolutely, and it's probably the flat surface that is

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Speaker 2: causing that to deteriorate. So if you've got water sitting

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Speaker 2: that's not as good as if it shed So either

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Speaker 2: go for a fifty mili dow or go for the

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Speaker 2: special handrail profile, which is in sort of it's it's

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Speaker 2: about one sixty x forty five something like that. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you find it as specialist machining shops.

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Speaker 5: I've stripped it right back and repainted it atfe We've

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Speaker 5: had a couple of nice, fine days, and I've made

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Speaker 5: sure when it was weird that I've gone over it

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Speaker 5: with a with a crough, you know, order to keep it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Sure, Because the paint, although it drives in what in

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Speaker 5: a sort of a very short time, it really takes

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Speaker 5: a week to cure fully cure oft isn't it? Is

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Speaker 5: it water based paint?

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Speaker 2: Now, water paste paint will basically be ready for recoating

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Speaker 1: From stumber backyard Jobs to Big Rennolds. Let's talk it through.

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Speaker 2: Your News, Talks dB and we are talking all things

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Speaker 2: building and construction. That can be the legislation, the rules

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Speaker 2: I don't know what people usually buy when they're away,

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Speaker 8: Good morning people are there.

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Speaker 9: I've got a plaster house that's about thirty or thirty

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it is like most of them would

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Speaker 2: There is less maintenance potentially, but nothing requires no maintenance.

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Speaker 2: most likely single glazed as opposed to double glazed. Thirty

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Speaker 2: then I'd get that benefit as well. But the good

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Speaker 2: All the very best. You take care and look, maybe

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Speaker 2: And you can get special silicon sprays that don't you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, one hundred eighty is the number to call Tony.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, good to see.

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Speaker 11: You come back from your holiday.

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Speaker 12: I've got a house you that's right that twenty years

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Speaker 12: put us more study room in it, right, do I

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Speaker 2: Is the if it's a unit, is it on a

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Speaker 12: Require internal not an externs of you know, I haven't

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Speaker 2: And typically a flats plan for a crossley site just

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Speaker 2: just to be absolutely sure if it's not outside the yeah,

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Speaker 10: But it is a window.

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Speaker 12: Going into the washhouse basically when the hallway sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, So I mean, look, you're not using it

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Speaker 11: Yeah, good, thanks. I just had a question in regards

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Speaker 11: My argument was that in the case of an emergency, so.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's something that sort of has never really been

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Speaker 2: so it's there constantly in the event that firefighters need

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Speaker 2: to use it to put out a fire at your house.

431
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. It's a big ask, it is.

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Speaker 11: It's yeah, it's in some cases, you know, if you

433
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Speaker 11: didn't have a nice flat spot to just pop two

434
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Speaker 11: cheap placetick tanks down, then yeah, you could potentially be

435
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Speaker 11: looking at you know, concrete water tanks which could be

436
00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:38,175
Speaker 11: you know, up toil about eight nine thousand dollars each

437
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Speaker 11: and then the fire fighting tension that they require.

438
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've seen them because I do some work

439
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Speaker 2: with Bailey water tanks, right, and they have got adapters,

440
00:25:48,735 --> 00:25:50,815
Speaker 2: you know, so they'll they'll do the tank with an

441
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Speaker 2: outlet for firefighting for example, and it's it's quite an

442
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Speaker 2: impressive piece of kit because of course, what you don't

443
00:25:58,415 --> 00:26:00,575
Speaker 2: want is a you know, thirty mil or a twenty

444
00:26:00,575 --> 00:26:02,775
Speaker 2: mili spigot coming out of that and then trying to

445
00:26:02,855 --> 00:26:06,975
Speaker 2: draw water from there. So it has a fire fighting

446
00:26:07,295 --> 00:26:11,255
Speaker 2: fitting on it basically, and also provision for air to

447
00:26:11,455 --> 00:26:13,575
Speaker 2: enter the tank so that when they're running the pumps

448
00:26:15,055 --> 00:26:18,775
Speaker 2: it will it won't create a vacuum, right, so you

449
00:26:18,815 --> 00:26:22,695
Speaker 2: can actually draw that water out at pace. So actually

450
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of texts on it. Someone said,

451
00:26:26,295 --> 00:26:29,695
Speaker 2: welcome back, which is nice. Cactus been here, who's a firefighter.

452
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Speaker 2: Fens has a right by law to emergency use of

453
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Speaker 2: water for fire fighting purposes. Councils should mind their own business.

454
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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with that. It's under the Building Act.

455
00:26:40,215 --> 00:26:42,415
Speaker 2: It's under the Building Act, but it's a fences so

456
00:26:42,495 --> 00:26:45,455
Speaker 2: far in emergency in New Zealand, fifty thousand liters is

457
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Speaker 2: the requirement where they are because forty five thousand leaders

458
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Speaker 2: is also a kind of awkward size for tanks because

459
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Speaker 2: you could buy two twenty thousand letter ones and you're short,

460
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Speaker 2: then you end up with a thirty and a fifteen

461
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Speaker 2: or a thirty and a twenty or you know.

462
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Speaker 11: It's yeah, twenty five.

463
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Speaker 2: I will, I'll make a bit of a note about it.

464
00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:08,095
Speaker 2: So where are you going to So if do you

465
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Speaker 2: now have to go back for a resource consent?

466
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Speaker 11: Well, no, I'm I'm two weeks away from getting finale,

467
00:27:16,175 --> 00:27:19,055
Speaker 11: and I'm just thinking that the section thirty seven that

468
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Speaker 11: this young lady at Monitoring put on earlier and the

469
00:27:22,615 --> 00:27:26,015
Speaker 11: project is going to pop back up when they signed

470
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Speaker 11: the house off and say, yeah, the house is all good.

471
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Speaker 11: Go to put you know, go to apply for triple

472
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Speaker 11: C and then that section thirty seven pops back up.

473
00:27:34,135 --> 00:27:37,415
Speaker 11: Sure they no, you need resource consent. So I could

474
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Speaker 11: either spend you know, I've had a quote for about

475
00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:43,855
Speaker 11: eight grand for resource consent, and then they might turn

476
00:27:43,895 --> 00:27:44,975
Speaker 11: around and say.

477
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Speaker 2: We're not going to ground it.

478
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so then I didn't have to go and spend

479
00:27:50,215 --> 00:27:53,775
Speaker 11: the fifteen thousand dollars anyway and put the I'm also

480
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Speaker 11: a five fighter, so I know the regulation. Five footers

481
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Speaker 11: don't have to ask to use order anywhere from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

483
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So that's what I mean. Like if the five

484
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Speaker 11: fighters showed up and they said, well, this stream isn't

485
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Speaker 11: going to run out on us, We're going to need

486
00:28:08,415 --> 00:28:12,735
Speaker 11: plenty of will of let's just us, and you've got

487
00:28:12,775 --> 00:28:16,095
Speaker 11: these two tanks in there.

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Speaker 2: Just holding water for an event that you really hope

489
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Speaker 2: is never going to happen.

490
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it just seems like one of these blanket rules.

491
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Speaker 11: I don't know if it's with the RNA or that.

492
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Speaker 11: It just it doesn't seem to be you know any

493
00:28:30,895 --> 00:28:34,255
Speaker 11: any It's a common theme, but no common sense. We're

494
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Speaker 11: council where they can have a look and say you

495
00:28:36,855 --> 00:28:39,015
Speaker 11: do you've got that signed off by the fire fighters.

496
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Speaker 2: I mean if you if the like obviously you know

497
00:28:42,935 --> 00:28:45,495
Speaker 2: because in the end you want this to work, right,

498
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Speaker 2: So if the stream is there and you're confident that

499
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Speaker 2: year round there's always going to be sufficient water that

500
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Speaker 2: fire service will be able to suck out forty five

501
00:28:54,975 --> 00:28:59,335
Speaker 2: thousand elters should they need it, then as a homeowner,

502
00:28:59,455 --> 00:29:02,455
Speaker 2: that's that's you've made a reasonable assessment and it's there,

503
00:29:02,495 --> 00:29:06,735
Speaker 2: and given that you know the the hope this is

504
00:29:06,775 --> 00:29:09,775
Speaker 2: something that you will never need to actually do. And

505
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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you. I think it seems

506
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Speaker 2: absurd that because you're going to draw water from there

507
00:29:15,415 --> 00:29:17,735
Speaker 2: in the unlikely event that you're going to have a fire,

508
00:29:18,255 --> 00:29:20,895
Speaker 2: that you then have to get a resource consent to

509
00:29:21,015 --> 00:29:24,295
Speaker 2: draw water from there, knowing that it's not a regular occurrence.

510
00:29:25,735 --> 00:29:29,095
Speaker 2: You can imagine you know, politicians, particularly the current lot,

511
00:29:29,295 --> 00:29:31,615
Speaker 2: listening to this going that's why we want to change

512
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Speaker 2: the roma. Right. It's growing to such an extent that

513
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:39,735
Speaker 2: it started to encapsulate all of these things, which yes,

514
00:29:40,335 --> 00:29:45,295
Speaker 2: theoretically these things require consent and its management of a

515
00:29:45,375 --> 00:29:47,535
Speaker 2: resource and all the rest of it. But has the

516
00:29:47,575 --> 00:29:51,375
Speaker 2: scope of it gone too far? And for something like

517
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Speaker 2: this that is practical, reasonable people you'd go, Okay, there's

518
00:29:55,255 --> 00:29:57,455
Speaker 2: a stream there. You're going to provide a little platform

519
00:29:57,495 --> 00:29:59,575
Speaker 2: which allows you to mount to pump there, and in

520
00:29:59,615 --> 00:30:01,615
Speaker 2: the event that you've got a fire, you can fight it.

521
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Speaker 2: You don't need a resource consent for that.

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Speaker 13: It's ridiculous, it is.

523
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Speaker 2: But if it's the rules at the moment, that's the rules, right,

524
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Speaker 2: and so you're going to have to find a way

525
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Speaker 2: around it. But it would be nice if someone was

526
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Speaker 2: practical and knowing that the Resource Management actors up for

527
00:30:18,735 --> 00:30:24,055
Speaker 2: a very significant change. So you kind of you can't

528
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Speaker 2: wait because you want to get your CCC.

529
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Speaker 11: Well, that's the other thing I was going to ask

530
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Speaker 11: you was if the reason I really want triple C

531
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Speaker 11: is for insurance purposes? Sure, if I was to just

532
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Speaker 11: hold off and just have a certificate of practical completion

533
00:30:40,615 --> 00:30:45,775
Speaker 11: from a builder for the house, I could then get

534
00:30:45,855 --> 00:30:52,975
Speaker 11: insurance and you know that is there another avenue with exploring.

535
00:30:52,895 --> 00:30:55,775
Speaker 2: Again, you'd want to talk to your insurer obviously because

536
00:30:55,815 --> 00:30:58,895
Speaker 2: they're the one going to underwrite the policy. But I

537
00:30:58,895 --> 00:31:04,095
Speaker 2: mean obviously during the build, your your build's being ensured

538
00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:10,175
Speaker 2: as as a project, right, Yeah, so could you extend

539
00:31:10,295 --> 00:31:12,335
Speaker 2: that for a period of time.

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Speaker 11: It's just the only thing is it's very expensive compared to.

541
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Speaker 2: To regular house insurance.

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00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:19,095
Speaker 13: Yeah.

543
00:31:19,095 --> 00:31:23,375
Speaker 2: Absolutely, then yeah, maybe a certificate of practical completion means

544
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:26,175
Speaker 2: that the house has moved from a construction site to

545
00:31:26,215 --> 00:31:30,175
Speaker 2: a habitable space, and whether or not you're in transition

546
00:31:30,335 --> 00:31:36,015
Speaker 2: to that time where you're getting a CCC the insurer

547
00:31:36,015 --> 00:31:38,695
Speaker 2: would cover you seems reasonable as well. But again it's

548
00:31:38,735 --> 00:31:43,855
Speaker 2: one of those things. It's a discussion with your insurer.

549
00:31:44,695 --> 00:31:48,695
Speaker 2: Interesting someone else's text through our rural house burnt down.

550
00:31:48,775 --> 00:31:53,495
Speaker 2: Local fire crew did provide a water tanker, But it's interesting.

551
00:31:53,735 --> 00:31:57,335
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a certain amount of volume in a tanker,

552
00:31:58,455 --> 00:32:01,455
Speaker 2: but I would imagine I don't know how much is

553
00:32:01,535 --> 00:32:04,695
Speaker 2: regularly carried on board a fire engine, but I wouldn't.

554
00:32:04,815 --> 00:32:09,055
Speaker 2: It's not forty five thousand lit. I'm guessing, no, I.

555
00:32:09,015 --> 00:32:11,415
Speaker 11: Saw, I'm urban ones. It's about fifteen hundred leaders.

556
00:32:11,655 --> 00:32:15,055
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it's enough to get going. But then

557
00:32:15,175 --> 00:32:18,535
Speaker 2: that provides enough time, I guess for the firefighters to

558
00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:23,455
Speaker 2: source water and carry on putting out the fire. How

559
00:32:23,455 --> 00:32:26,335
Speaker 2: interesting i'd be interested to hear. I'm not sure that

560
00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:30,455
Speaker 2: we actually got anywhere, because these things involve so many

561
00:32:30,535 --> 00:32:33,815
Speaker 2: other conversations and different pieces of law. But look, I

562
00:32:33,815 --> 00:32:36,775
Speaker 2: would wholeheartedly agree with you, Matt. The fact that for

563
00:32:37,095 --> 00:32:41,575
Speaker 2: an unlikely event you require a resource consent, it's just ludicrous.

564
00:32:42,055 --> 00:32:44,135
Speaker 2: Good luck with all of that, Matt. Oh, eight hundred

565
00:32:44,215 --> 00:32:46,095
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number. To call it six

566
00:32:46,215 --> 00:32:48,655
Speaker 2: forty one. Let's call it six forty two. Actually here

567
00:32:48,655 --> 00:32:50,535
Speaker 2: at Newstalks, here be a couple of texts on that

568
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:53,575
Speaker 2: you can get insurance without having a CCC, So that's

569
00:32:53,575 --> 00:32:57,055
Speaker 2: good to know. Fire appliance is about a two thousand

570
00:32:57,175 --> 00:33:01,095
Speaker 2: leader tank one I think might be up to ten

571
00:33:01,135 --> 00:33:03,695
Speaker 2: thousand letters. But look, if they're saying you need forty

572
00:33:03,735 --> 00:33:07,615
Speaker 2: five to fifty thousand letters of water available for fire fighting,

573
00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:14,575
Speaker 2: that's a lot to have permanent storage that's not connected

574
00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:18,175
Speaker 2: to your pottable water supply. So you can't say, look,

575
00:33:18,175 --> 00:33:22,095
Speaker 2: i've got water tanks you can draw from there because

576
00:33:22,335 --> 00:33:24,575
Speaker 2: you might have drained them down over a hot summer

577
00:33:25,215 --> 00:33:27,815
Speaker 2: having a shower. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Happy

578
00:33:27,815 --> 00:33:30,015
Speaker 2: to take more calls on that, or if someone else

579
00:33:30,135 --> 00:33:33,335
Speaker 2: is familiar with it. The background to it would be fascinating.

580
00:33:33,495 --> 00:33:36,095
Speaker 2: It is six forty two at newstalk S ed b.

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Speaker 1: Sawdust, Sunshine and solid Advice The Resident Builder with Peter

582
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Speaker 1: Wolfcab Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk ZBR.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B. We are talking all things building and construction.

584
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Speaker 2: And when I say all things, this is kind of tangential.

585
00:33:53,375 --> 00:33:57,415
Speaker 2: This is to building and construction. This is what happens

586
00:33:57,415 --> 00:34:00,615
Speaker 2: when things go wrong. So in that instance, were what

587
00:34:00,655 --> 00:34:02,655
Speaker 2: we've The topic that we've kind of headed towards is

588
00:34:02,695 --> 00:34:07,735
Speaker 2: this whole requirement, which I feel has been around for

589
00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:11,495
Speaker 2: a while. Certainly, it's not something that I was familiar

590
00:34:11,495 --> 00:34:13,815
Speaker 2: with because the type of building that I've been doing

591
00:34:13,815 --> 00:34:16,455
Speaker 2: for all these years is often urban, right, so there's

592
00:34:16,895 --> 00:34:19,655
Speaker 2: fire hydrants in the street, or there's main supply to

593
00:34:19,695 --> 00:34:22,455
Speaker 2: the houses and so on. But if you're in an

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Speaker 2: area where that is not available, then increasingly it seems

595
00:34:26,775 --> 00:34:31,855
Speaker 2: like you need to make provision for firefighting yourself. I'm

596
00:34:31,895 --> 00:34:35,535
Speaker 2: not sure how the rules are determined, or whether there's

597
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Speaker 2: a very detailed breakdown and guideline as to which parts

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00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:43,935
Speaker 2: of the country, which streets, which towns, etc. Require this,

599
00:34:44,135 --> 00:34:47,055
Speaker 2: or how it's made, or what is it Because it's

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Speaker 2: a certain distance from a fire station, is it a

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Speaker 2: certain distance from a water source, etc. What types of

602
00:34:52,615 --> 00:34:57,135
Speaker 2: water sources are legitimate, and whether or not a swimming pool,

603
00:34:57,135 --> 00:35:01,735
Speaker 2: for example, would be a permanent type of storage for

604
00:35:01,735 --> 00:35:07,295
Speaker 2: forty five thousand liters of water. Someone has very drolly

605
00:35:07,535 --> 00:35:10,495
Speaker 2: text through morning. I put in a full pool for

606
00:35:10,615 --> 00:35:13,855
Speaker 2: firefighting purposes. The firefighter says, by the time that they

607
00:35:13,895 --> 00:35:16,615
Speaker 2: get to my property, they could use the water to

608
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:22,175
Speaker 2: wash down the slab. Right, it's rather dark humor, but

609
00:35:22,255 --> 00:35:28,175
Speaker 2: I kind of appreciate it. And then someone's given me

610
00:35:28,255 --> 00:35:30,695
Speaker 2: quite a lot of detail which I appreciate actually around

611
00:35:31,015 --> 00:35:35,295
Speaker 2: firefighting and so on. So city type three career for

612
00:35:35,735 --> 00:35:39,895
Speaker 2: fire appliances carry between twelve hundred and fourteen hundred liters.

613
00:35:39,975 --> 00:35:43,335
Speaker 2: Type one and two volunteer trucks will carry about two thousand,

614
00:35:43,695 --> 00:35:46,215
Speaker 2: which is mostly your smaller towns and rural areas. Most

615
00:35:46,295 --> 00:35:50,375
Speaker 2: tankers are between five thousand, eight hundred and twelve thousand liters,

616
00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:52,935
Speaker 2: depending on the council and the local resource that'll dictate

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00:35:52,975 --> 00:35:55,215
Speaker 2: how much needs to be stored on site as a

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00:35:55,295 --> 00:35:58,295
Speaker 2: static water supply. Thank you very much. I'm a little

619
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Speaker 2: bit more reading on this. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

620
00:36:00,455 --> 00:36:03,455
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. Peter A. Very

621
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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 14: Please list.

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00:36:08,015 --> 00:36:12,295
Speaker 7: We just build a brand new fence, quite a long one,

625
00:36:12,695 --> 00:36:15,295
Speaker 7: and it's a matter of how we're going. We want

626
00:36:15,295 --> 00:36:19,495
Speaker 7: it painted, yes, so is it is it based by

627
00:36:19,615 --> 00:36:25,815
Speaker 7: brush or by them? And what paints? We'll need a primer,

628
00:36:26,215 --> 00:36:26,695
Speaker 7: won't we?

629
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Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of things. I presume that it's a

630
00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:34,415
Speaker 2: timber fence, so it's a post rails battens on it,

631
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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Is it rough saw or smooth?

632
00:36:38,455 --> 00:36:38,655
Speaker 7: Well?

633
00:36:39,295 --> 00:36:48,535
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay. Interestingly enough, just before Christmas, we did

634
00:36:48,695 --> 00:36:53,215
Speaker 2: our last segment with Jay, painting expert from Razine, and

635
00:36:53,255 --> 00:36:56,535
Speaker 2: he happened to mention that Razine have just introduced a

636
00:36:56,575 --> 00:37:01,855
Speaker 2: new formulation of one of their paints that's specifically designed

637
00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:06,015
Speaker 2: for sort of outdoor painting projects like fences and so on.

638
00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:10,295
Speaker 2: So I think in this instance it might be a

639
00:37:10,335 --> 00:37:13,015
Speaker 2: sort of all in one. The primer is in it,

640
00:37:13,455 --> 00:37:15,815
Speaker 2: so it's just a one or two code application, so

641
00:37:15,895 --> 00:37:18,295
Speaker 2: rather than having to prime and then top coat. So

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00:37:18,415 --> 00:37:20,575
Speaker 2: if you wanted to paint it, for example, I would

643
00:37:20,575 --> 00:37:23,015
Speaker 2: say you let it flash off a little bit, so

644
00:37:23,335 --> 00:37:27,975
Speaker 2: some of that timber preservative has released from the timber.

645
00:37:28,215 --> 00:37:32,295
Speaker 2: You'd give it a wash with some paint prep. So

646
00:37:32,455 --> 00:37:35,655
Speaker 2: give it a thorough wash, let that thoroughly dry, then

647
00:37:35,695 --> 00:37:38,135
Speaker 2: do a primer, then do two top coats. But it's

648
00:37:38,175 --> 00:37:40,615
Speaker 2: a lot of painting and it's a lot of brushwork

649
00:37:40,655 --> 00:37:43,855
Speaker 2: if it's a decent long fence, or possibly do the

650
00:37:44,175 --> 00:37:47,895
Speaker 2: preparation and then just a spray application of this new

651
00:37:48,055 --> 00:37:51,055
Speaker 2: paint from razine. So that's what I'd be looking at.

652
00:37:52,935 --> 00:37:53,335
Speaker 7: Thank you.

653
00:37:53,655 --> 00:37:56,175
Speaker 2: And if you wanted to do spraying yourself, you know,

654
00:37:56,255 --> 00:38:00,855
Speaker 2: the big commercial sprayers can be quite complicated to use.

655
00:38:01,575 --> 00:38:04,735
Speaker 2: There are the small kind of diy ones, which is

656
00:38:04,775 --> 00:38:06,935
Speaker 2: just a little pottle that screws on the bottom of

657
00:38:06,975 --> 00:38:09,895
Speaker 2: a sprayer. Once you've had a bit of practice with that,

658
00:38:09,895 --> 00:38:13,095
Speaker 2: that's probably not a bad way of doing it. Because

659
00:38:13,175 --> 00:38:15,655
Speaker 2: certainly the thought of painting or we're using a little

660
00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:19,095
Speaker 2: roller that that sounds like a lot of time on

661
00:38:19,135 --> 00:38:23,215
Speaker 2: a lovely summer's day. Thank you, all right, mate, all

662
00:38:23,215 --> 00:38:26,175
Speaker 2: the very best to you. Certainly, next time one of

663
00:38:26,215 --> 00:38:29,215
Speaker 2: our painting is it's either Bryce or Jay come back

664
00:38:29,215 --> 00:38:31,255
Speaker 2: on the show. I'll get a lot more detail about

665
00:38:31,295 --> 00:38:34,695
Speaker 2: this new formulation or this new paint that's come out

666
00:38:34,735 --> 00:38:37,215
Speaker 2: as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

667
00:38:37,415 --> 00:38:39,695
Speaker 2: number to call. We need to take a break. Then

668
00:38:39,695 --> 00:38:42,055
Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Ben about firefighting.

669
00:38:42,175 --> 00:38:46,375
Speaker 1: Sorting those sum effectses before the barbecue crowd arrives. The

670
00:38:46,575 --> 00:38:50,175
Speaker 1: resident builder with Peter worlfcab call Oh, eight hundred eighty

671
00:38:50,175 --> 00:38:53,535
Speaker 1: ten eighty youth talk ZB you a news talk there'd be.

672
00:38:53,735 --> 00:38:56,135
Speaker 2: It's eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're talking a little

673
00:38:56,175 --> 00:38:59,175
Speaker 2: bit about firefighting and I've got actually a really good email.

674
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:01,455
Speaker 2: I'll share that with you after the news as well.

675
00:39:01,495 --> 00:39:05,135
Speaker 2: But right now, Ben, a very good morning. Hey Peter,

676
00:39:05,215 --> 00:39:07,015
Speaker 2: welcome back, Ben, Thank you mate.

677
00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:11,335
Speaker 15: Hey, so a couple of anecdotes or observations for you.

678
00:39:11,855 --> 00:39:16,935
Speaker 15: We live in rural North Canterbury. Our neighbors recently built

679
00:39:16,975 --> 00:39:21,255
Speaker 15: a new house on their property as a shared twenty

680
00:39:21,335 --> 00:39:25,855
Speaker 15: million liter dam, which is always full. They despite the

681
00:39:25,895 --> 00:39:29,575
Speaker 15: twenty million litter dam being there, they had to do

682
00:39:29,615 --> 00:39:33,655
Speaker 15: the whole tank and connection thing, which just seems ridiculous

683
00:39:34,855 --> 00:39:38,615
Speaker 15: from the firefighting perspective. As a firefighter, the reality is

684
00:39:38,655 --> 00:39:42,095
Speaker 15: that we will use whatever water is practical, and often

685
00:39:42,175 --> 00:39:46,215
Speaker 15: tanks are cited in a really difficult position. So it's

686
00:39:46,255 --> 00:39:48,775
Speaker 15: another example, without wanting to sound like a fascist where

687
00:39:48,895 --> 00:39:52,895
Speaker 15: common sense have gone out the window and legislation and

688
00:39:52,935 --> 00:39:54,415
Speaker 15: regulation is to the poor.

689
00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:59,375
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of those things that I can appreciate.

690
00:40:00,335 --> 00:40:03,095
Speaker 2: You know, it's sensible in the sense that in the

691
00:40:03,135 --> 00:40:05,535
Speaker 2: event that you know, there's not a hydrant sitting at

692
00:40:05,535 --> 00:40:08,095
Speaker 2: the on the corner of the section, right, So in

693
00:40:08,135 --> 00:40:11,615
Speaker 2: that event and there's a fire and the fire brigade

694
00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:13,215
Speaker 2: need to get water, they need to be able to

695
00:40:13,295 --> 00:40:17,255
Speaker 2: find it somewhere, and so if it's not nearby, then

696
00:40:17,455 --> 00:40:21,175
Speaker 2: it's fair enough that the onus is on the householder

697
00:40:21,615 --> 00:40:25,335
Speaker 2: to provide that water for that. But then it seems

698
00:40:25,375 --> 00:40:27,695
Speaker 2: like that's the practical part. But then, like you say,

699
00:40:27,935 --> 00:40:31,295
Speaker 2: if there's a two million or twenty million liter dam

700
00:40:31,375 --> 00:40:34,295
Speaker 2: that's quite close by, but for some reason you're allowed

701
00:40:34,295 --> 00:40:36,495
Speaker 2: to use that water, that doesn't make any sense. Then

702
00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:38,335
Speaker 2: was it a distance?

703
00:40:39,775 --> 00:40:41,775
Speaker 15: No, No, it's not. It's not at all in a

704
00:40:41,855 --> 00:40:44,255
Speaker 15: rural area, there are no hydrants, no, of course not,

705
00:40:44,935 --> 00:40:47,695
Speaker 15: And so we do what is whatever practical. I mean,

706
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,975
Speaker 15: the council's perspective was that the regulation says you need

707
00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:54,695
Speaker 15: fifty thousand liters of supply close to the house. This

708
00:40:54,855 --> 00:40:58,215
Speaker 15: was I mean that the dam is probably maybe one

709
00:40:58,295 --> 00:41:02,015
Speaker 15: hundred meters from the from the property, but that that

710
00:41:02,055 --> 00:41:04,295
Speaker 15: doesn't comply, which just seems insane relate.

711
00:41:05,575 --> 00:41:07,775
Speaker 2: Although from a practical point of view, and I'm very aware,

712
00:41:07,775 --> 00:41:10,215
Speaker 2: we've only got ten fifteen seconds, you know, for you,

713
00:41:10,495 --> 00:41:13,335
Speaker 2: like as a firefighter, to run hoses one hundred meters

714
00:41:13,615 --> 00:41:15,815
Speaker 2: would take some time, wouldn't it. And we know how

715
00:41:15,855 --> 00:41:16,855
Speaker 2: fast fires go.

716
00:41:18,495 --> 00:41:20,975
Speaker 15: Now we've got pump sweet pumps pumped into the trucks.

717
00:41:21,015 --> 00:41:24,975
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, biggie, Okay, interesting, interesting, I'm going to

718
00:41:25,015 --> 00:41:27,775
Speaker 2: run for the news. Hey, appreciate the call. We we'll

719
00:41:27,775 --> 00:41:30,575
Speaker 2: continue to talk about this afternoon sport and weather top

720
00:41:30,615 --> 00:41:32,455
Speaker 2: of the hour at seven o'clock if you'd like to

721
00:41:32,495 --> 00:41:36,135
Speaker 2: join us talk all things building and construction, including how

722
00:41:36,135 --> 00:41:38,095
Speaker 2: to put out fires. I guess we'll provide water. We'll

723
00:41:38,135 --> 00:41:39,615
Speaker 2: do that straight after seven o'clock.

724
00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:45,575
Speaker 1: If it creeks, leaks, cracks, or squeaks, some is the

725
00:41:45,615 --> 00:41:46,815
Speaker 1: time to get it sorted.

726
00:41:46,935 --> 00:41:47,135
Speaker 12: Call.

727
00:41:47,255 --> 00:41:49,775
Speaker 1: Oh, eight hundred and eighty to eighty. The resident builder

728
00:41:49,895 --> 00:41:52,255
Speaker 1: with Peter Worlfcare News Talks.

729
00:41:52,095 --> 00:41:55,655
Speaker 2: Be your news talk, said, b we are into our

730
00:41:55,695 --> 00:41:59,855
Speaker 2: discussion this morning about all things building and construction, and

731
00:42:00,775 --> 00:42:03,615
Speaker 2: again my apologies if you've heard me say this before,

732
00:42:03,615 --> 00:42:07,295
Speaker 2: but it is every week. It's absolutely true. I don't

733
00:42:07,335 --> 00:42:11,295
Speaker 2: know where the show's going to go every week. I

734
00:42:11,375 --> 00:42:13,535
Speaker 2: might have something that I want to introduce, or a

735
00:42:13,575 --> 00:42:17,255
Speaker 2: topic or something that's topical or newsworthy that has come

736
00:42:17,295 --> 00:42:20,655
Speaker 2: along during the week, but I really never know. So

737
00:42:21,095 --> 00:42:23,535
Speaker 2: did I know that we'd be talking about firefighting and

738
00:42:23,735 --> 00:42:28,135
Speaker 2: the provision of water for firefighting in areas where there's

739
00:42:28,215 --> 00:42:31,295
Speaker 2: either not a hydrant or there's not main supply. No,

740
00:42:31,415 --> 00:42:33,975
Speaker 2: I didn't. Is an interesting Well, yeah, I think it

741
00:42:34,015 --> 00:42:36,375
Speaker 2: is because it does impact on a lot of people,

742
00:42:36,455 --> 00:42:39,255
Speaker 2: particularly the rules around how much and the fact that

743
00:42:39,295 --> 00:42:42,495
Speaker 2: it can't be part of your pottable water supply. So

744
00:42:43,015 --> 00:42:45,895
Speaker 2: if you're capturing rain water and putting it into tanks

745
00:42:45,895 --> 00:42:48,215
Speaker 2: and you're using that for drinking water and showering and

746
00:42:48,295 --> 00:42:51,255
Speaker 2: running the flushing the toilets, those sorts of things, that

747
00:42:51,375 --> 00:42:54,455
Speaker 2: water is separate to water that needs to be provided

748
00:42:54,975 --> 00:43:00,135
Speaker 2: for firefighting. So the email that I got some crazy

749
00:43:00,175 --> 00:43:03,215
Speaker 2: interpretation of the fire fighting regulations, this is obviously opinion.

750
00:43:04,175 --> 00:43:07,055
Speaker 2: In one instance, get a fence letter so far an

751
00:43:07,055 --> 00:43:10,095
Speaker 2: emergency New Zealand letter stating that they can take water

752
00:43:10,135 --> 00:43:13,215
Speaker 2: from any water source. Council wanted me to put in

753
00:43:13,415 --> 00:43:16,695
Speaker 2: four tanks for a duplex development on a rural section

754
00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:19,815
Speaker 2: that had limited space. A visit from Fens and a

755
00:43:19,895 --> 00:43:24,895
Speaker 2: subsequent letter was ultimately acceptable to council that two twenty

756
00:43:24,895 --> 00:43:28,815
Speaker 2: five thousand letter tanks were acceptable. Still required several emails

757
00:43:28,855 --> 00:43:32,055
Speaker 2: to convince the council from en So in the end

758
00:43:32,135 --> 00:43:34,895
Speaker 2: you still needed to put in tanks, but maybe you

759
00:43:34,935 --> 00:43:38,015
Speaker 2: didn't need to provide forty thousand liters of storage for

760
00:43:38,175 --> 00:43:42,895
Speaker 2: each individual unit, So you've ended up with fifty thousand letters. Still,

761
00:43:42,975 --> 00:43:46,895
Speaker 2: you know, two decent sized tanks and the special fittings,

762
00:43:46,895 --> 00:43:53,295
Speaker 2: and I've seen these at the Bailey Water Tanks. You

763
00:43:53,335 --> 00:43:57,175
Speaker 2: know they've obviously they're doing tanks have done for years,

764
00:43:57,175 --> 00:43:59,975
Speaker 2: but also tanks that come with a special fitting, so

765
00:44:00,015 --> 00:44:03,495
Speaker 2: a large outlet basically that allows the volume to be

766
00:44:03,815 --> 00:44:06,255
Speaker 2: sucked out of the tank and also to allow air

767
00:44:06,455 --> 00:44:08,935
Speaker 2: into the tank, because you imagine, if you know, most

768
00:44:09,015 --> 00:44:10,615
Speaker 2: tanks have got a lid on them at the top,

769
00:44:10,935 --> 00:44:14,095
Speaker 2: if you're trying to suck out water at several hundred

770
00:44:14,095 --> 00:44:17,295
Speaker 2: liters a minute, it's going to end up collapsing the

771
00:44:17,335 --> 00:44:20,535
Speaker 2: tank by creating a vacuum. So there's a special provision

772
00:44:20,615 --> 00:44:22,655
Speaker 2: like a snorkel I think it is that goes on

773
00:44:22,695 --> 00:44:25,255
Speaker 2: the top of the tank that allows air to be

774
00:44:25,335 --> 00:44:28,095
Speaker 2: drawn in as water is being sucked out of the tank. Oh,

775
00:44:28,175 --> 00:44:30,815
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

776
00:44:30,895 --> 00:44:34,095
Speaker 2: Certainly the water tanks at home. I did quite a

777
00:44:34,135 --> 00:44:37,495
Speaker 2: lot of work in the garden before I went away,

778
00:44:37,535 --> 00:44:39,575
Speaker 2: including a whole lot of feeding and that sort of thing.

779
00:44:39,855 --> 00:44:42,655
Speaker 2: It seems that the things that responded most to the

780
00:44:42,975 --> 00:44:46,335
Speaker 2: to the feeding and fertilizing that I did with the weeds,

781
00:44:46,495 --> 00:44:49,935
Speaker 2: which were prolific when I got home. Anyway, sorted that out.

782
00:44:50,455 --> 00:44:53,415
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this and all things gardening with Rid Climb.

783
00:44:53,495 --> 00:44:56,735
Speaker 2: Pasted at ten eight point thirty this morning. Right the

784
00:44:56,775 --> 00:44:59,735
Speaker 2: lines are open. The number to call eight hundred eighty

785
00:44:59,855 --> 00:45:05,215
Speaker 2: ten eighty. All things building, construction, fences, regulations, change of use,

786
00:45:06,375 --> 00:45:10,015
Speaker 2: it's plans, everything's up for grabs. Eight hundred eighty eighty

787
00:45:10,055 --> 00:45:14,135
Speaker 2: the number. Dion. Good morning, Matt. How are you thinks

788
00:45:14,215 --> 00:45:16,855
Speaker 2: very well on yourself bearing.

789
00:45:16,655 --> 00:45:18,175
Speaker 16: Up under the strain. Thanks for asking.

790
00:45:20,535 --> 00:45:23,695
Speaker 2: We're only well three days into four days into the year.

791
00:45:26,175 --> 00:45:33,975
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm actually ex construction manager and I have done

792
00:45:34,135 --> 00:45:37,175
Speaker 17: a number of bills around the place, but I now

793
00:45:37,215 --> 00:45:42,095
Speaker 17: live on Waki Island and there you would be hard

794
00:45:42,175 --> 00:45:47,775
Speaker 17: pushed to find anybody with tanks set aside specifically for

795
00:45:47,855 --> 00:45:51,495
Speaker 17: firefighting here. I don't have any property that has it.

796
00:45:52,215 --> 00:45:54,895
Speaker 17: And if these guys this is once again, this is

797
00:45:54,935 --> 00:45:58,775
Speaker 17: the bloody counsel deciding they're just going to enforce something

798
00:45:58,815 --> 00:46:01,335
Speaker 17: because they can, and no one can fight them on

799
00:46:01,535 --> 00:46:04,735
Speaker 17: because everyone sort of thinks they're too they're too small,

800
00:46:04,775 --> 00:46:08,615
Speaker 17: which they are largely. So you know, you get a

801
00:46:08,655 --> 00:46:11,735
Speaker 17: planner saying stuff like that, you've got to have that

802
00:46:11,855 --> 00:46:14,415
Speaker 17: poor bagger up up north. He's got those who's got

803
00:46:14,415 --> 00:46:18,055
Speaker 17: about forty five downs. It is completely ridiculous. And I

804
00:46:18,095 --> 00:46:20,815
Speaker 17: don't know why these planners think they can just get

805
00:46:20,815 --> 00:46:21,295
Speaker 17: away with it.

806
00:46:21,415 --> 00:46:24,135
Speaker 2: And yet at the same time, you know, if we're

807
00:46:24,175 --> 00:46:28,055
Speaker 2: logical about these things, it also isn't ridiculous because you know,

808
00:46:28,175 --> 00:46:31,575
Speaker 2: in a situation where you're in a rural area, there's

809
00:46:31,575 --> 00:46:34,375
Speaker 2: no provision for water other than what you've got in

810
00:46:34,375 --> 00:46:37,415
Speaker 2: your tanks, and those tanks could be quite low because

811
00:46:37,455 --> 00:46:41,655
Speaker 2: you're using it. Then, yeah, what happens when the fire

812
00:46:41,735 --> 00:46:44,455
Speaker 2: engine actually you've you've prompted me to think. The last

813
00:46:44,495 --> 00:46:47,415
Speaker 2: place that I did that was kind of rural was

814
00:46:48,175 --> 00:46:52,335
Speaker 2: north of Auckland on a ten acre block. It was

815
00:46:52,375 --> 00:46:54,815
Speaker 2: a large family home with a garage and with a

816
00:46:54,815 --> 00:46:57,495
Speaker 2: minor dwelling on it and so on for an extended family.

817
00:46:58,295 --> 00:47:02,415
Speaker 2: And we built that. We put in three large water tanks.

818
00:47:02,415 --> 00:47:04,655
Speaker 2: I can't they might have been thirty thousand liter ones

819
00:47:04,735 --> 00:47:08,375
Speaker 2: or something like that, but at that time there was

820
00:47:08,415 --> 00:47:11,455
Speaker 2: nothing on the building consent to the resource consent around

821
00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:15,335
Speaker 2: provision for firefighting. So it's obviously something that's happened in

822
00:47:15,415 --> 00:47:18,535
Speaker 2: the last I don't know, five, ten, twenty years or so,

823
00:47:19,535 --> 00:47:22,855
Speaker 2: but it's having a real impact. In this email from

824
00:47:22,855 --> 00:47:25,535
Speaker 2: a guy saying, look, I did a duplex development in

825
00:47:25,575 --> 00:47:28,095
Speaker 2: a rural section, still ended up needing to put in

826
00:47:28,135 --> 00:47:31,695
Speaker 2: two twenty five thousand letter tanks just for firefighting.

827
00:47:33,375 --> 00:47:37,055
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I mean I agree with you that, I

828
00:47:37,095 --> 00:47:41,655
Speaker 18: mean it's a necessary but those trucks carry a fair

829
00:47:41,655 --> 00:47:43,695
Speaker 18: amount of water as far as I understand, I don't

830
00:47:43,735 --> 00:47:44,815
Speaker 18: know the details.

831
00:47:44,455 --> 00:47:48,095
Speaker 2: Of well, but no, most most regular, Like I've got

832
00:47:48,095 --> 00:47:50,095
Speaker 2: an email from a guy going, hey, look, Type one

833
00:47:50,135 --> 00:47:52,815
Speaker 2: and two volunteer trucks which are used in smaller towns

834
00:47:52,855 --> 00:47:56,415
Speaker 2: and rural area might carry about two thousand leaders. Now

835
00:47:56,455 --> 00:47:58,975
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that through a fire hose two thousand leaders,

836
00:47:59,015 --> 00:48:01,495
Speaker 2: you're going to get through that pretty damn quick. And

837
00:48:01,535 --> 00:48:03,935
Speaker 2: it's probably not enough order to put out a fire,

838
00:48:05,455 --> 00:48:07,735
Speaker 2: not a instantly involved house fire.

839
00:48:09,135 --> 00:48:10,095
Speaker 18: You know, what I don't know.

840
00:48:10,375 --> 00:48:12,815
Speaker 17: Is wh you get a situation sound of properly? Like

841
00:48:12,855 --> 00:48:15,295
Speaker 17: why do they just open the tank the water tanks

842
00:48:15,375 --> 00:48:17,455
Speaker 17: up and chuck the bumps in? Is that how they

843
00:48:17,495 --> 00:48:17,695
Speaker 17: do it?

844
00:48:17,775 --> 00:48:20,455
Speaker 2: Because I don't I like, yeah, because most of them

845
00:48:20,495 --> 00:48:23,215
Speaker 2: wouldn't have the special fitting on them. Maybe they do,

846
00:48:23,335 --> 00:48:26,175
Speaker 2: but again, you know that then requires somebody on a

847
00:48:26,255 --> 00:48:28,695
Speaker 2: ladder to get up, open the lid, drop a hose,

848
00:48:28,735 --> 00:48:31,615
Speaker 2: and do the siphon, you know, all of which is

849
00:48:31,655 --> 00:48:33,295
Speaker 2: happening while your house is burning down.

850
00:48:34,775 --> 00:48:37,175
Speaker 17: Yeah.

851
00:48:37,895 --> 00:48:40,655
Speaker 2: The hard thing is you can actually see that, you

852
00:48:40,695 --> 00:48:43,495
Speaker 2: can actually see the logic behind the legislation. Right in

853
00:48:43,535 --> 00:48:47,015
Speaker 2: an emergency situation and you don't have provision for water.

854
00:48:47,095 --> 00:48:49,255
Speaker 2: Your house is going to burn down. So what's the

855
00:48:49,255 --> 00:48:52,255
Speaker 2: answer to that? Make people have water storage? But then

856
00:48:52,495 --> 00:48:55,175
Speaker 2: we're off. We're now into that space where okay, here's

857
00:48:55,175 --> 00:48:58,095
Speaker 2: a practical solution, Like our first caller who said, I've

858
00:48:58,135 --> 00:49:00,975
Speaker 2: got a stream, stream never runs dry. You could suck

859
00:49:01,015 --> 00:49:03,095
Speaker 2: forty five thousand letters of water out. I'll make a

860
00:49:03,095 --> 00:49:05,975
Speaker 2: little platform that you can mount a pump on. That's

861
00:49:06,015 --> 00:49:08,695
Speaker 2: my solution. Oh hey, now you need a resource consent

862
00:49:08,735 --> 00:49:11,415
Speaker 2: to draw water from the stream and away we go.

863
00:49:13,055 --> 00:49:16,455
Speaker 2: But hey, look at the same time, and maybe now

864
00:49:16,495 --> 00:49:19,495
Speaker 2: that the announcements have been made, I know we've interviewed

865
00:49:19,535 --> 00:49:21,775
Speaker 2: Chris Pink a couple of times on the program, it

866
00:49:21,895 --> 00:49:24,495
Speaker 2: might be interesting to do to make a request to

867
00:49:24,535 --> 00:49:27,975
Speaker 2: have Chris Bishop on the show to talk about the

868
00:49:28,055 --> 00:49:30,535
Speaker 2: changes to the resource management and what that might do

869
00:49:30,615 --> 00:49:33,175
Speaker 2: in terms of construction. So I'll make a note do

870
00:49:33,255 --> 00:49:35,615
Speaker 2: some homework on that as well. Good talking with you, Dean,

871
00:49:35,775 --> 00:49:38,215
Speaker 2: and all the best for the year ahead, and hopefully

872
00:49:38,215 --> 00:49:40,375
Speaker 2: it's not as stressful as you feel right now. O

873
00:49:40,455 --> 00:49:43,095
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

874
00:49:43,095 --> 00:49:46,335
Speaker 2: to call. It's fourteen minutes after seven, Linda, Good morning,

875
00:49:47,615 --> 00:49:48,135
Speaker 2: Hi Pete.

876
00:49:48,175 --> 00:49:50,695
Speaker 19: I've been hoping to get hold of you. I've got

877
00:49:51,135 --> 00:49:52,015
Speaker 19: a rashy problem.

878
00:49:52,215 --> 00:49:56,695
Speaker 2: Oh and I feel your pain.

879
00:49:58,095 --> 00:50:00,855
Speaker 19: This is a problem that is becoming more and more

880
00:50:00,935 --> 00:50:05,255
Speaker 19: prevalentically in the area that I live in and you know,

881
00:50:05,295 --> 00:50:09,735
Speaker 19: it's you know, I just residential in Auckland, and I've

882
00:50:09,775 --> 00:50:12,215
Speaker 19: got these rats have somehow got up into the ceiling.

883
00:50:12,255 --> 00:50:14,535
Speaker 19: But the funny thing is it's not funny, you know,

884
00:50:14,575 --> 00:50:18,975
Speaker 19: because anyway, they only seem to come in when it rains,

885
00:50:19,335 --> 00:50:25,575
Speaker 19: all right, limits of rain falling. But I've tried everything

886
00:50:25,695 --> 00:50:27,055
Speaker 19: to sort of try to get rid of them.

887
00:50:27,335 --> 00:50:27,815
Speaker 20: I don't know.

888
00:50:27,775 --> 00:50:30,735
Speaker 19: How they're getting in, and I don't know what to

889
00:50:30,775 --> 00:50:34,615
Speaker 19: do about it once they're there. And I also worry

890
00:50:34,655 --> 00:50:37,175
Speaker 19: an awful lot about what they're doing to the wiring

891
00:50:37,295 --> 00:50:40,055
Speaker 19: that up there, you know, and also you know, the

892
00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:45,775
Speaker 19: the insulation and all of that. Yeah, and so I'm

893
00:50:45,815 --> 00:50:47,935
Speaker 19: really desperate and I'm wanting to know, and I've tried

894
00:50:48,015 --> 00:50:50,935
Speaker 19: all sorts of stuff, and I just wanted, can you

895
00:50:51,015 --> 00:50:53,895
Speaker 19: get can some people ring up with solutions that have

896
00:50:54,015 --> 00:50:54,775
Speaker 19: worked for them?

897
00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:58,695
Speaker 2: Look what I suggest to do is, you know, I

898
00:50:58,735 --> 00:51:01,615
Speaker 2: know this is a show that promotes the IY and

899
00:51:01,815 --> 00:51:03,655
Speaker 2: you can do traps and you can do baiting, but

900
00:51:03,855 --> 00:51:08,335
Speaker 2: I think if you've got effectively like an infestation, I

901
00:51:08,335 --> 00:51:11,375
Speaker 2: would get the professionals in. And again a property that

902
00:51:11,415 --> 00:51:14,295
Speaker 2: I look after, there was an issue a number of

903
00:51:14,375 --> 00:51:18,335
Speaker 2: years ago, I went reached out contacted a local pest

904
00:51:18,415 --> 00:51:22,855
Speaker 2: control firm. They're on the North Shore, Select Home Services,

905
00:51:23,015 --> 00:51:26,215
Speaker 2: and for I don't know how many years, I've had

906
00:51:26,255 --> 00:51:30,615
Speaker 2: them install traps around the perimeter of the property and

907
00:51:30,655 --> 00:51:34,095
Speaker 2: they regularly come back do the check the baits, give

908
00:51:34,175 --> 00:51:36,735
Speaker 2: me an assessment of how much bait has been removed.

909
00:51:36,775 --> 00:51:39,655
Speaker 2: In some cases it's like eighty ninety percent of the

910
00:51:39,655 --> 00:51:41,975
Speaker 2: bait has been removed. So you know that there are

911
00:51:42,215 --> 00:51:45,735
Speaker 2: rats around, but in terms of rats getting into the building,

912
00:51:45,815 --> 00:51:48,975
Speaker 2: it stopped that because they've trapped around the area and

913
00:51:49,015 --> 00:51:53,055
Speaker 2: put out bait stations. So I think this, given that

914
00:51:53,135 --> 00:51:55,815
Speaker 2: it's you know, obviously a fairly significant problem, I would

915
00:51:55,815 --> 00:51:58,335
Speaker 2: look at getting a professional firm and to establish some

916
00:51:58,455 --> 00:52:02,015
Speaker 2: baits and a trap line basically around your property.

917
00:52:03,255 --> 00:52:07,255
Speaker 19: What about once they've got up in there. I mean,

918
00:52:07,495 --> 00:52:09,015
Speaker 19: I can't get up and have a lot and say,

919
00:52:09,455 --> 00:52:13,095
Speaker 19: you know what they've done, what the damage is. What

920
00:52:13,495 --> 00:52:15,855
Speaker 19: do you suggest to do you know, to sort of

921
00:52:15,855 --> 00:52:23,015
Speaker 19: clean that up or you know, or along those lines again, possibly, yeah, contact.

922
00:52:22,655 --> 00:52:25,335
Speaker 2: Possibly, Well, there are pest control firms out there right

923
00:52:25,375 --> 00:52:27,575
Speaker 2: and lots of them, so you know, it's just a

924
00:52:27,615 --> 00:52:30,175
Speaker 2: matter of getting a recommendation for a trustworthy one in

925
00:52:30,215 --> 00:52:33,335
Speaker 2: your area and using them, and possibly they could go

926
00:52:33,495 --> 00:52:36,815
Speaker 2: up and have a look and see whether there's any evidence,

927
00:52:36,855 --> 00:52:40,255
Speaker 2: for example, of nests in the ceiling that they you know,

928
00:52:40,415 --> 00:52:43,935
Speaker 2: because I have heard stories where rats love to use

929
00:52:43,975 --> 00:52:46,655
Speaker 2: certain types of insulation to build themselves nests, in which

930
00:52:46,695 --> 00:52:49,455
Speaker 2: case it's a warm, dry environment, and they're probably thinking

931
00:52:49,495 --> 00:52:52,015
Speaker 2: that's that's awesome. The other thing to look at is,

932
00:52:52,175 --> 00:52:55,975
Speaker 2: you know, do you have any large attractive openings around

933
00:52:55,975 --> 00:53:00,575
Speaker 2: the perimeter of the roof. One instance, a place that

934
00:53:00,655 --> 00:53:03,895
Speaker 2: I look after, there's an overhead power line that runs

935
00:53:03,975 --> 00:53:07,695
Speaker 2: from the road obviously to the house. It runs close

936
00:53:07,735 --> 00:53:11,295
Speaker 2: to some trees, it's close to a reserve, and councils

937
00:53:11,375 --> 00:53:14,615
Speaker 2: stopped trapping for rats in that reserve, and so the

938
00:53:14,655 --> 00:53:18,295
Speaker 2: population grew expanded, and by all accounts, they used to track.

939
00:53:18,415 --> 00:53:21,815
Speaker 2: They used to climb or walk along the overhead power

940
00:53:21,815 --> 00:53:26,015
Speaker 2: line and then up and under the roofing and in there.

941
00:53:26,255 --> 00:53:27,815
Speaker 2: So you got to look at that. But look, I

942
00:53:27,855 --> 00:53:32,095
Speaker 2: would go professionals and get someone in to do some trapping,

943
00:53:32,135 --> 00:53:36,095
Speaker 2: and I'm sure that will make a big difference. I'd

944
00:53:36,135 --> 00:53:39,335
Speaker 2: probably have told the story before, and the reason why

945
00:53:39,375 --> 00:53:43,055
Speaker 2: I have some empathy for you is many, many, many

946
00:53:43,135 --> 00:53:45,495
Speaker 2: years ago. We were living in a small place and

947
00:53:45,735 --> 00:53:48,415
Speaker 2: we had rats in the ceiling as well, and so

948
00:53:48,535 --> 00:53:51,895
Speaker 2: I got up through the ceiling hatch, got a rat trap,

949
00:53:51,975 --> 00:53:54,855
Speaker 2: good old fashioned one, put that up there with some

950
00:53:54,935 --> 00:53:57,935
Speaker 2: bait in it, middle of the night. A couple of

951
00:53:57,975 --> 00:54:00,695
Speaker 2: days later, a night's later, I could hear the scratching

952
00:54:00,775 --> 00:54:04,055
Speaker 2: sound of the rat running around on the ceiling, and

953
00:54:04,095 --> 00:54:07,535
Speaker 2: then a couple of minutes later, off the trap goes,

954
00:54:07,615 --> 00:54:11,935
Speaker 2: and I thought, gotcha, you lasted thing. But then about

955
00:54:12,015 --> 00:54:15,935
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds later I could hear this scratching sound and

956
00:54:15,975 --> 00:54:19,815
Speaker 2: a dragging sound, so obviously I'd got them or her,

957
00:54:19,895 --> 00:54:23,895
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they were still alive and dragging

958
00:54:23,935 --> 00:54:28,135
Speaker 2: the trap with them. So imagine lying like two o'clock

959
00:54:28,175 --> 00:54:30,375
Speaker 2: in the morning listening to this, going, what am I

960
00:54:30,495 --> 00:54:33,535
Speaker 2: gonna do now? Anyway, I thought of it, but it

961
00:54:33,575 --> 00:54:35,655
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't a lot of fun, to be fair.

962
00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:40,455
Speaker 19: I've tried everything my body. I was throwing them up,

963
00:54:40,495 --> 00:54:42,095
Speaker 19: and god, I really didn't want to do it, but

964
00:54:42,135 --> 00:54:44,455
Speaker 19: they didn't even touch them. I couldn't believe it. They

965
00:54:44,455 --> 00:54:45,255
Speaker 19: wouldn't touch them.

966
00:54:45,735 --> 00:54:49,135
Speaker 2: Don't go for the baits trap up there yet, go

967
00:54:49,575 --> 00:54:52,295
Speaker 2: for the baits, get some professionals and get the baits

968
00:54:52,335 --> 00:54:55,095
Speaker 2: set up, and you know that'll sort it out. All

969
00:54:55,095 --> 00:54:57,695
Speaker 2: the very best to you, Elinder. And that does bring back,

970
00:54:58,255 --> 00:55:00,215
Speaker 2: wasn't it. I mean, it's funny now, but I can

971
00:55:00,255 --> 00:55:01,855
Speaker 2: tell you what lying in bed at two o'clock in

972
00:55:01,895 --> 00:55:04,735
Speaker 2: the morning hearing this sort of scraping sound. It is

973
00:55:04,775 --> 00:55:08,375
Speaker 2: this trapped rat trying to drag the trap across the

974
00:55:08,455 --> 00:55:11,055
Speaker 2: seven locks, not going to be going. This is not

975
00:55:11,135 --> 00:55:13,015
Speaker 2: a good story. It's a bit early in the morning

976
00:55:13,055 --> 00:55:14,895
Speaker 2: for this sort of story. Yeah, wrap it up, you're saying,

977
00:55:14,935 --> 00:55:16,935
Speaker 2: wrap it up. I don't need to know more. Seven

978
00:55:17,055 --> 00:55:19,095
Speaker 2: nineteen will take a break. We'll talk to Charles in

979
00:55:19,295 --> 00:55:19,895
Speaker 2: just a moment.

980
00:55:20,415 --> 00:55:25,535
Speaker 1: Sun's Out Tools Out Your summer DIY starts here. The

981
00:55:25,575 --> 00:55:28,575
Speaker 1: resident builder with Peter Wolf can call the eight hundred

982
00:55:28,575 --> 00:55:30,375
Speaker 1: and eighty eight News Talk ZB.

983
00:55:32,375 --> 00:55:34,775
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about the Sun's Out Tools Out thing.

984
00:55:34,855 --> 00:55:37,455
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, but I'm thinking I think I've

985
00:55:37,455 --> 00:55:39,615
Speaker 2: had more rain here in Auckland in the last four

986
00:55:39,655 --> 00:55:42,495
Speaker 2: days since we've been back for the month that I

987
00:55:42,535 --> 00:55:44,455
Speaker 2: spent in the Northern Hemisphere, where it's supposed to be

988
00:55:44,535 --> 00:55:47,815
Speaker 2: winter and cold, and well it was dark and it

989
00:55:47,895 --> 00:55:49,775
Speaker 2: was a bit chilly, but not a lot of rain.

990
00:55:50,215 --> 00:55:53,215
Speaker 2: I was out driving around yesterday in some of those thunderstorms.

991
00:55:53,255 --> 00:55:55,695
Speaker 2: It's quite exciting. Really. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

992
00:55:55,695 --> 00:56:00,495
Speaker 2: is then I'm to call Charles. Good morning. Hello Charles

993
00:56:02,055 --> 00:56:09,375
Speaker 2: hell old Charles. Hello, Hello Charles. Yes, water tanks, Yes.

994
00:56:09,175 --> 00:56:13,775
Speaker 6: I thought i'd ed and my two cents worth. I'm

995
00:56:13,895 --> 00:56:19,455
Speaker 6: a MOAL firefighter down in the south here. We're starting

996
00:56:19,455 --> 00:56:22,695
Speaker 6: to see a proliferation of these water tanks from the

997
00:56:22,735 --> 00:56:29,255
Speaker 6: local authority. And one of the issues is that half

998
00:56:29,335 --> 00:56:31,895
Speaker 6: the tanks are placed so close to the building that

999
00:56:32,015 --> 00:56:36,415
Speaker 6: there no practical use whatsoever, because they're right in the

1000
00:56:36,495 --> 00:56:37,775
Speaker 6: what you might call the hot zone.

1001
00:56:37,935 --> 00:56:38,295
Speaker 2: Yes.

1002
00:56:39,615 --> 00:56:42,135
Speaker 6: The other thing is the authority doesn't tell us that

1003
00:56:42,175 --> 00:56:44,895
Speaker 6: they have required these tanks to be put in. So

1004
00:56:44,975 --> 00:56:47,295
Speaker 6: I actually do a drive around my area where I

1005
00:56:47,335 --> 00:56:51,095
Speaker 6: see a new building going up and document the tank

1006
00:56:52,335 --> 00:56:57,175
Speaker 6: and try and just so that if we're arriving on scene,

1007
00:56:57,175 --> 00:56:58,575
Speaker 6: we know that it's there to start with.

1008
00:57:01,935 --> 00:57:05,815
Speaker 2: Okay, that's I mean, And that seems to be a

1009
00:57:05,975 --> 00:57:08,575
Speaker 2: really some like there's a simple fix for that, right,

1010
00:57:08,695 --> 00:57:11,015
Speaker 2: So if you're doing a new building, you've put in

1011
00:57:11,095 --> 00:57:14,615
Speaker 2: provision for fire fighting that should be registered on the title.

1012
00:57:14,775 --> 00:57:17,015
Speaker 2: And then I guess if you're if you get a

1013
00:57:17,055 --> 00:57:20,975
Speaker 2: call out. I don't know whether you typically search for

1014
00:57:21,015 --> 00:57:24,495
Speaker 2: any property information on your way to the to the

1015
00:57:25,295 --> 00:57:27,415
Speaker 2: to the event, but if you did, it should come

1016
00:57:27,495 --> 00:57:29,775
Speaker 2: up with an alert to fends going, Hey, by the way,

1017
00:57:29,895 --> 00:57:32,895
Speaker 2: look for the forty five tank because it's there for

1018
00:57:32,935 --> 00:57:33,775
Speaker 2: you guys to use.

1019
00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:38,415
Speaker 6: In theory, that would work, but you're gonna remember, we're.

1020
00:57:39,175 --> 00:57:40,535
Speaker 2: You've got other things to think about.

1021
00:57:41,095 --> 00:57:44,055
Speaker 6: Yeah, old trucks that don't have that sort of connectivity

1022
00:57:45,175 --> 00:57:48,655
Speaker 6: means a quick look around the vehicle and say, right

1023
00:57:48,695 --> 00:57:50,415
Speaker 6: where we were going, what do we know about it?

1024
00:57:50,415 --> 00:57:51,055
Speaker 6: Where's the water?

1025
00:57:51,415 --> 00:57:51,615
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1026
00:57:51,855 --> 00:57:55,935
Speaker 6: The ether thing is that mostly now when we're going

1027
00:57:56,015 --> 00:58:00,455
Speaker 6: to a fire, that the communications people will be sending

1028
00:58:00,935 --> 00:58:03,815
Speaker 6: a tanker, one or two tankers to follow us up.

1029
00:58:04,575 --> 00:58:07,815
Speaker 6: So the idea is that they're maybe thirty forty minutes

1030
00:58:07,855 --> 00:58:08,655
Speaker 6: out behind us.

1031
00:58:09,735 --> 00:58:10,935
Speaker 11: Right, do what we can't?

1032
00:58:11,015 --> 00:58:15,415
Speaker 6: We do what we can without two thousand liters, which

1033
00:58:15,495 --> 00:58:17,255
Speaker 6: is water management.

1034
00:58:17,575 --> 00:58:17,855
Speaker 2: Yep.

1035
00:58:18,375 --> 00:58:20,495
Speaker 6: So it doesn't mean you go full noise on the

1036
00:58:20,535 --> 00:58:24,015
Speaker 6: on the on the hose. The other thing is that

1037
00:58:24,215 --> 00:58:30,095
Speaker 6: those tanks that don't have a coupling. We have developed

1038
00:58:30,375 --> 00:58:36,855
Speaker 6: a drop in snorkel the top and we've practiced ripping

1039
00:58:36,895 --> 00:58:40,455
Speaker 6: the top of tanks, dropping the snorkel and running a

1040
00:58:40,455 --> 00:58:44,695
Speaker 6: feeder to a pump a truck and the idea is

1041
00:58:44,735 --> 00:58:48,135
Speaker 6: to it's a race to get that set up for

1042
00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:52,535
Speaker 6: the crew on the hoses on the empty the truck's tank.

1043
00:58:53,935 --> 00:58:56,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yep, yep, so.

1044
00:58:56,495 --> 00:59:02,495
Speaker 6: You can picture the scene. So yes, there's it's I've

1045
00:59:02,615 --> 00:59:05,935
Speaker 6: only done over the last eighteen to twenty years a

1046
00:59:05,935 --> 00:59:11,895
Speaker 6: lot of house fires in these areas and it works. Well,

1047
00:59:11,895 --> 00:59:12,695
Speaker 6: that's all I can say.

1048
00:59:13,335 --> 00:59:15,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the sort of thing that you know,

1049
00:59:16,175 --> 00:59:18,815
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's often easy to go look versus

1050
00:59:18,855 --> 00:59:21,335
Speaker 2: biocity gone mad and da da da dada in any

1051
00:59:21,375 --> 00:59:24,375
Speaker 2: state blah blah blah. But the reality is that if

1052
00:59:24,415 --> 00:59:27,935
Speaker 2: you're if you're in an area where there's not a

1053
00:59:28,015 --> 00:59:32,855
Speaker 2: hydrant or Mainz pressure, then well, if you're in Mainz pressure,

1054
00:59:32,855 --> 00:59:35,015
Speaker 2: then you've got hydrants. That's as simple as that, isn't it.

1055
00:59:36,415 --> 00:59:42,055
Speaker 6: No, the community where a men has hydrants all around

1056
00:59:42,055 --> 00:59:46,295
Speaker 6: the place every one hundred or so meters, most of them,

1057
00:59:46,535 --> 00:59:49,655
Speaker 6: most of them the pressure behind them is and you

1058
00:59:49,735 --> 00:59:51,855
Speaker 6: could be off, Frank, you could puddle.

1059
00:59:51,815 --> 00:59:53,815
Speaker 2: More right, Yeah, okay, ye.

1060
00:59:55,015 --> 00:59:58,295
Speaker 6: So they're not much used and they have to get

1061
00:59:58,335 --> 01:00:02,135
Speaker 6: the local authority replaced wall lines and didn't really sort

1062
01:00:02,135 --> 01:00:06,695
Speaker 6: of think about upgrading so that there was enough supply

1063
01:00:06,855 --> 01:00:07,535
Speaker 6: for a hydrant.

1064
01:00:08,135 --> 01:00:15,175
Speaker 2: Right. Interesting, Yeah, because I think most of us who

1065
01:00:15,215 --> 01:00:17,775
Speaker 2: have you know, are interested in this and maybe have

1066
01:00:18,135 --> 01:00:20,975
Speaker 2: looked at some videos about what happens when a fire

1067
01:00:21,895 --> 01:00:25,775
Speaker 2: takes off on a property. In the end, we're talking minutes, right,

1068
01:00:25,855 --> 01:00:29,535
Speaker 2: We're not talking lots of time to leisurely wander along,

1069
01:00:29,695 --> 01:00:32,735
Speaker 2: find some water, get it connected, and so on. Because

1070
01:00:33,255 --> 01:00:36,495
Speaker 2: you know, a house of an older vintage perhaps where

1071
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Speaker 2: there's lots of timber, maybe not much lining, those sorts

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01:00:40,055 --> 01:00:43,135
Speaker 2: of things that would be gone in six seven minutes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:00:44,975 --> 01:00:48,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, So somebody else suggested were there just to wash

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01:00:48,295 --> 01:00:49,375
Speaker 6: down the sledge.

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01:00:51,295 --> 01:00:54,455
Speaker 2: I'm sure he wasn't in tending offense to you, but

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Speaker 2: that was a comment from a firefighter.

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01:00:59,095 --> 01:00:59,295
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if I think about us, you know, ten

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01:01:03,575 --> 01:01:07,775
Speaker 6: minutes from the sign, we're out the door, and then

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Speaker 6: ten potentially other ten to fifteen minutes to get to

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01:01:11,455 --> 01:01:17,095
Speaker 6: where we need to go to ten yes, the place

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01:01:17,175 --> 01:01:19,735
Speaker 6: is fully involved, if we say, and all we can

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Speaker 6: do is try and prevent it from yes, spreading and

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01:01:23,415 --> 01:01:29,135
Speaker 6: spread spreading. So so yes, there's there's not a lot

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Speaker 6: we can we can do, and those circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, Charles, I really appreciate the insight from someone

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01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:41,415
Speaker 2: who's who's involved in this and obviously for a number

1089
01:01:41,415 --> 01:01:44,535
Speaker 2: of years and a great deal of and put and advice.

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01:01:45,215 --> 01:01:48,455
Speaker 2: Really appreciate that. It's seven twenty nine here at news

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01:01:48,495 --> 01:01:52,655
Speaker 2: Talk said Be and Kevin, good morning to you, Good

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01:01:52,655 --> 01:01:54,735
Speaker 2: morning Prince, and to you, sir.

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Speaker 16: I have a solution with this water problem in the

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01:01:59,735 --> 01:02:03,295
Speaker 16: rural area. Yep, we get about the tags were in

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01:02:03,335 --> 01:02:04,135
Speaker 16: a swimming pool.

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01:02:05,655 --> 01:02:08,255
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've I've certainly in areas that now that

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01:02:08,295 --> 01:02:11,535
Speaker 2: I'm sort of familiar with these requirements, I think that's

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01:02:11,815 --> 01:02:14,975
Speaker 2: a simple provision. You know, forty five thousand leaders is

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01:02:15,135 --> 01:02:19,295
Speaker 2: a relatively small swimming pool. But if it's there, and

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01:02:19,335 --> 01:02:21,815
Speaker 2: it's in the ground, and it's unlikely to melt and

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01:02:21,895 --> 01:02:23,775
Speaker 2: those sorts of things, then that makes a lot of sense.

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01:02:23,775 --> 01:02:27,415
Speaker 2: Because I think Charles talking before, in some cases, you know,

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01:02:27,455 --> 01:02:30,375
Speaker 2: if it's a tank, plastic tank, which is how most

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01:02:30,415 --> 01:02:32,815
Speaker 2: tanks have done these days, and it's relatively close to

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01:02:32,855 --> 01:02:36,015
Speaker 2: the house. Once you've got a fully involved fire, chances

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01:02:36,055 --> 01:02:39,015
Speaker 2: are the tank is going to start melting, right, So

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01:02:39,055 --> 01:02:41,615
Speaker 2: you need to have that set far enough away to

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01:02:41,775 --> 01:02:44,375
Speaker 2: ensure that it's not going to be impacted by the fire.

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01:02:44,415 --> 01:02:47,975
Speaker 2: But obviously a swimming pool, well if it's a concrete

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01:02:47,975 --> 01:02:49,535
Speaker 2: one that's in the ground, ain't going to burn.

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01:02:50,655 --> 01:02:54,975
Speaker 16: Yep, that's right, doing a bad thing into pleasure.

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01:02:55,575 --> 01:03:01,375
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I appreciate that. All the best

1113
01:03:01,415 --> 01:03:03,255
Speaker 2: to you, Kevin. We can take a short break. We'll

1114
01:03:03,295 --> 01:03:05,455
Speaker 2: talk to John and just the moment, we're talking all

1115
01:03:05,495 --> 01:03:09,215
Speaker 2: things building and instruction. Basically we're talking about houses and all

1116
01:03:09,255 --> 01:03:10,855
Speaker 2: of the things that go along with it. Oh wait,

1117
01:03:10,935 --> 01:03:16,495
Speaker 2: which includes obviously protecting it in the event that there

1118
01:03:16,575 --> 01:03:19,655
Speaker 2: is a fire. Mean that I was going to say

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01:03:19,655 --> 01:03:23,815
Speaker 2: they're relatively un common, but I do know a couple

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01:03:23,855 --> 01:03:25,695
Speaker 2: of people who have had fires, and I do know

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01:03:25,775 --> 01:03:28,895
Speaker 2: people who have either lost their house or suffered significant

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01:03:28,975 --> 01:03:33,855
Speaker 2: damage as a result. Several years ago, actually with the

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01:03:33,935 --> 01:03:37,975
Speaker 2: first season of the block, so I was at twenty twelve,

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01:03:38,095 --> 01:03:45,055
Speaker 2: we actually put sprinklers in, had a separate water supply

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01:03:47,055 --> 01:03:49,775
Speaker 2: they've connected to the mains, but it had like a

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01:03:49,935 --> 01:03:55,095
Speaker 2: volume of water that could be used initially to run

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01:03:55,415 --> 01:03:59,375
Speaker 2: sprinklers throughout the house. But in all the years since then,

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01:03:59,415 --> 01:04:01,015
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever done a new build where

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01:04:01,015 --> 01:04:03,175
Speaker 2: people have said, actually, I want to protect myself, I'm

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01:04:03,175 --> 01:04:06,695
Speaker 2: going to put sprinklers inside a residential dwelling. One hundred

1131
01:04:06,695 --> 01:04:08,935
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty back in just a moment.

1132
01:04:09,895 --> 01:04:14,695
Speaker 1: Sorting those summerfixes before the barbecue crowd arrives, the resident

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01:04:14,735 --> 01:04:18,055
Speaker 1: builder with Peter wolfcab call oh eight hundred eighty ten

1134
01:04:18,135 --> 01:04:19,535
Speaker 1: eighty news Talks that be.

1135
01:04:21,135 --> 01:04:23,335
Speaker 2: You and new Talks Thered be. A couple of people

1136
01:04:23,535 --> 01:04:29,935
Speaker 2: commenting just via the text on the pest control just saying, hey, look,

1137
01:04:30,055 --> 01:04:33,255
Speaker 2: just go for your own traps, do the baits yourself. Yeap,

1138
01:04:34,255 --> 01:04:36,055
Speaker 2: you could have a go, but I think you've got

1139
01:04:36,095 --> 01:04:39,855
Speaker 2: to be really diligent around checking the baits, making sure

1140
01:04:39,855 --> 01:04:43,735
Speaker 2: that you've got enough exterior traps out there. And yes,

1141
01:04:43,855 --> 01:04:45,535
Speaker 2: you could do that yourself, but you're going to go

1142
01:04:45,535 --> 01:04:47,495
Speaker 2: and invest in it. And then you've got to make

1143
01:04:47,535 --> 01:04:50,055
Speaker 2: sure that you can, I suppose deal with any carcasses

1144
01:04:50,095 --> 01:04:52,775
Speaker 2: that you might find as well. Oh eight hundred eighty

1145
01:04:52,855 --> 01:04:55,655
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. Speaking of rats, John,

1146
01:04:55,735 --> 01:04:58,015
Speaker 2: good morning. You want to talk about them as well.

1147
01:04:59,855 --> 01:05:03,215
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's some machines available. I know where you can

1148
01:05:03,255 --> 01:05:05,135
Speaker 14: get them, but I don't want to mention the store

1149
01:05:05,615 --> 01:05:08,015
Speaker 14: because you're I could be in trouble with your boss.

1150
01:05:08,255 --> 01:05:10,775
Speaker 14: But I can give it to the gentleman. Yes, lady,

1151
01:05:11,415 --> 01:05:13,295
Speaker 14: the lady can. I'll ring them back and tell him.

1152
01:05:13,695 --> 01:05:15,695
Speaker 14: But what you do is you plug him in the

1153
01:05:15,735 --> 01:05:19,495
Speaker 14: in the hot point nearest to your mer say in

1154
01:05:19,575 --> 01:05:22,215
Speaker 14: journal switchboard or whatever you've got there, and then you

1155
01:05:22,295 --> 01:05:24,015
Speaker 14: got to the furthest part of the house. You have

1156
01:05:24,095 --> 01:05:26,335
Speaker 14: to buy it. They're not cheap, but they last forever.

1157
01:05:26,775 --> 01:05:29,855
Speaker 14: And what it actually does is sent harmonics through your wiring,

1158
01:05:30,895 --> 01:05:34,375
Speaker 14: through electric wiring, and those have very great the place

1159
01:05:34,895 --> 01:05:37,535
Speaker 14: and they just knocked a place, start to knock a

1160
01:05:37,615 --> 01:05:40,735
Speaker 14: place two doors away down from us. And next time

1161
01:05:40,735 --> 01:05:44,855
Speaker 14: we've got micheur ratt up in our ceiling and I'll hear.

1162
01:05:45,015 --> 01:05:46,815
Speaker 14: I got my red babe, and my friend said none,

1163
01:05:46,855 --> 01:05:48,975
Speaker 14: and I will take you to this store. And so

1164
01:05:49,215 --> 01:05:54,015
Speaker 14: he did, and I bought twenties. And you know, and

1165
01:05:54,095 --> 01:05:57,375
Speaker 14: the first night that we're rocketing around like a losrace,

1166
01:05:57,615 --> 01:06:00,975
Speaker 14: you know Indianapolis five hundred and the following night, the

1167
01:06:01,055 --> 01:06:03,535
Speaker 14: following night that we're gone, that heard the same.

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01:06:03,815 --> 01:06:06,615
Speaker 2: So this is just the harmonic. So it's a sound

1169
01:06:06,695 --> 01:06:08,135
Speaker 2: that I'm on travel.

1170
01:06:07,895 --> 01:06:11,575
Speaker 14: Through your copper wiring all over the place, and they're

1171
01:06:11,695 --> 01:06:15,055
Speaker 14: not hurt, your care for your dog, and they don't

1172
01:06:15,135 --> 01:06:15,455
Speaker 14: like it.

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01:06:15,855 --> 01:06:17,975
Speaker 2: They just stay away.

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01:06:18,615 --> 01:06:21,135
Speaker 14: Yeah, because I was a bit skeptical, but he sure

1175
01:06:21,255 --> 01:06:23,935
Speaker 14: to his plate and he said, well, I used to

1176
01:06:23,975 --> 01:06:25,975
Speaker 14: call it the castle. Make you see the place, But

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01:06:25,975 --> 01:06:28,015
Speaker 14: then might I take to be around with a vcum cleaner?

1178
01:06:28,575 --> 01:06:31,255
Speaker 14: And he put five for them, and he put one

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01:06:31,295 --> 01:06:33,975
Speaker 14: in each corner of the house, and then six and

1180
01:06:34,055 --> 01:06:38,615
Speaker 14: three he bought run on a switchboard. But he had horses,

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01:06:38,735 --> 01:06:42,855
Speaker 14: and he took one even if the wire was fed

1182
01:06:42,935 --> 01:06:45,655
Speaker 14: from the house, and put one where he had trouble

1183
01:06:45,695 --> 01:06:47,735
Speaker 14: with the reds eating you know, the chaff and all

1184
01:06:47,735 --> 01:06:50,655
Speaker 14: that rubbish. And I'll tell you once saying this, in

1185
01:06:50,735 --> 01:06:53,095
Speaker 14: three days he didn't have a right rat on the property.

1186
01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:54,055
Speaker 14: She was all gone.

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01:06:54,215 --> 01:06:56,535
Speaker 2: How interesting, How interesting. I'll tell you what I'll do

1188
01:06:56,615 --> 01:06:57,895
Speaker 2: is I'll put you on hold if you could just

1189
01:06:58,215 --> 01:07:01,335
Speaker 2: mention the store if you're reluctant to do it. On here.

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01:07:02,015 --> 01:07:04,055
Speaker 2: Just mention it to lock my producer. He'll pick up

1191
01:07:04,095 --> 01:07:07,055
Speaker 2: your call in just a second. With news talks, it'd

1192
01:07:07,055 --> 01:07:09,055
Speaker 2: be at seven thirty six people wolf camp back in

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01:07:09,175 --> 01:07:12,215
Speaker 2: the studio after a little bit of time away. It

1194
01:07:12,415 --> 01:07:14,815
Speaker 2: nice to be back as well. John, greetings to you

1195
01:07:15,135 --> 01:07:16,655
Speaker 2: second John the more.

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01:07:16,735 --> 01:07:19,935
Speaker 8: In fact, I understanding through this performance with fans at

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01:07:19,935 --> 01:07:24,175
Speaker 8: the moment having to put water tanks in. I'm on

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01:07:24,255 --> 01:07:29,375
Speaker 8: a semioral property within a city boundary and have to

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01:07:29,415 --> 01:07:33,855
Speaker 8: put in fifty thousand liters of water storage because I'm

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01:07:33,855 --> 01:07:36,295
Speaker 8: more than one hundred meters on the closest fire hydrant

1201
01:07:37,695 --> 01:07:42,415
Speaker 8: right now. The requirements are that I have to have

1202
01:07:42,415 --> 01:07:45,735
Speaker 8: been more than six meters from any of those technique

1203
01:07:45,815 --> 01:07:49,895
Speaker 8: needs more than six meters from any fire sauce, and

1204
01:07:50,055 --> 01:07:53,255
Speaker 8: I have to allow room for one fire hydrant to

1205
01:07:53,415 --> 01:07:57,575
Speaker 8: park at the tank and another fire appliants to pass

1206
01:07:57,695 --> 01:07:58,295
Speaker 8: at that point.

1207
01:07:59,455 --> 01:08:04,775
Speaker 2: Juers, what what's your section size?

1208
01:08:06,615 --> 01:08:07,455
Speaker 7: Twelve acres?

1209
01:08:07,975 --> 01:08:10,935
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not like that's not impossible. I'm just

1210
01:08:11,015 --> 01:08:14,135
Speaker 2: thinking about a situation, let's say, where you may need

1211
01:08:14,175 --> 01:08:19,415
Speaker 2: to provide provision for firefighting water, but on a let's

1212
01:08:19,455 --> 01:08:23,695
Speaker 2: say a thousand square lyter site, I mean obviously.

1213
01:08:23,335 --> 01:08:26,535
Speaker 8: That you're not going to have the issue any place

1214
01:08:26,575 --> 01:08:30,415
Speaker 8: that will require to fire having a fire fortet has

1215
01:08:30,455 --> 01:08:34,615
Speaker 8: to built for ninety meters of those tanks. Otherwise I've

1216
01:08:34,615 --> 01:08:36,695
Speaker 8: got to run a four inch main two with the

1217
01:08:36,815 --> 01:08:41,455
Speaker 8: ninety meters of those taks. Yeah, And I said, can

1218
01:08:41,495 --> 01:08:44,535
Speaker 8: I use a swimming pool and they said no, swimming

1219
01:08:44,535 --> 01:08:45,535
Speaker 8: pools will not count.

1220
01:08:46,655 --> 01:08:49,415
Speaker 2: How interesting because the reason.

1221
01:08:49,215 --> 01:08:52,295
Speaker 8: For that is because of fielding and shrubbery around the

1222
01:08:52,535 --> 01:08:56,855
Speaker 8: swimming pool could restrict access speedily access to it.

1223
01:08:58,535 --> 01:09:01,975
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, a burly firefighter with an axe

1224
01:09:02,015 --> 01:09:04,615
Speaker 2: is not going to be troubled by a little childlock?

1225
01:09:04,695 --> 01:09:05,855
Speaker 2: Are they No?

1226
01:09:05,895 --> 01:09:08,335
Speaker 8: But it's still well that the argument.

1227
01:09:08,055 --> 01:09:09,175
Speaker 7: Is going to delay.

1228
01:09:10,615 --> 01:09:16,815
Speaker 2: Cheetus and I guess there's no challenge to this. It's

1229
01:09:17,215 --> 01:09:19,895
Speaker 2: now you know what I found interesting as.

1230
01:09:19,895 --> 01:09:23,255
Speaker 8: Part of the building consent to build the building, right,

1231
01:09:23,415 --> 01:09:25,615
Speaker 8: so obviously with the building where I get signed off

1232
01:09:25,695 --> 01:09:27,255
Speaker 8: until that's that.

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01:09:27,455 --> 01:09:30,735
Speaker 2: That provision is made interesting enough.

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01:09:30,775 --> 01:09:34,935
Speaker 8: Also talking to a friendsman, he said the largest water

1235
01:09:34,975 --> 01:09:38,655
Speaker 8: tank in the district is twelve thousand meters putting in

1236
01:09:38,735 --> 01:09:39,415
Speaker 8: fifty thousand.

1237
01:09:40,615 --> 01:09:44,615
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it to know, you know roughly how much

1238
01:09:44,735 --> 01:09:47,335
Speaker 2: water you need to put out a house fire. You know,

1239
01:09:47,375 --> 01:09:49,815
Speaker 2: if your house is two hundred square meters, how much

1240
01:09:49,855 --> 01:09:53,495
Speaker 2: water typically would you need? I suppose depends of the

1241
01:09:53,535 --> 01:09:53,935
Speaker 2: house and.

1242
01:09:54,335 --> 01:09:57,615
Speaker 8: I'm sawing more than four water tank is full of water. Yeah,

1243
01:09:58,335 --> 01:09:59,935
Speaker 8: and they have to be full all the time.

1244
01:10:00,055 --> 01:10:03,775
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, so it can't be your regular possible water.

1245
01:10:04,335 --> 01:10:05,975
Speaker 16: I'm in town supply, you're.

1246
01:10:05,855 --> 01:10:09,735
Speaker 2: On town supply, correct, But because the hydrant is more

1247
01:10:09,775 --> 01:10:16,255
Speaker 2: than one hundred meters away, correct, far out, you wonder

1248
01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:18,255
Speaker 2: whether it would be cheaper for you to pay to

1249
01:10:18,335 --> 01:10:21,335
Speaker 2: have a hydrant installed closer to your house, you know

1250
01:10:21,335 --> 01:10:21,775
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1251
01:10:22,375 --> 01:10:23,975
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right.

1252
01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:28,815
Speaker 8: But these are the channels challenge say.

1253
01:10:29,575 --> 01:10:33,495
Speaker 2: I'm going to Yeah, well look at that. Hey, appreciate that.

1254
01:10:34,135 --> 01:10:36,455
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that. John, all the very

1255
01:10:36,455 --> 01:10:38,495
Speaker 2: best to you. Oh eight one hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

1256
01:10:39,095 --> 01:10:43,175
Speaker 2: It's fascinating that thing, particularly which part of the Building Act.

1257
01:10:43,215 --> 01:10:47,975
Speaker 2: It's it's you can't impose something like this on people

1258
01:10:48,175 --> 01:10:52,255
Speaker 2: and not have some legislation to back it up. So

1259
01:10:52,855 --> 01:10:55,815
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's homework for me this week your

1260
01:10:55,855 --> 01:11:02,815
Speaker 2: News Talks. It's seven forty one Trina, Good morning, Karina, Sorry, Hello.

1261
01:11:02,655 --> 01:11:04,015
Speaker 10: It's fine, Good morning, Peyton.

1262
01:11:04,095 --> 01:11:05,135
Speaker 4: Having me each to you as.

1263
01:11:05,055 --> 01:11:06,295
Speaker 2: Well you're into you.

1264
01:11:07,455 --> 01:11:09,415
Speaker 10: So we are in a situation and I just thought,

1265
01:11:09,615 --> 01:11:13,175
Speaker 10: you know, for a different perspective, we live rural, and

1266
01:11:13,455 --> 01:11:15,535
Speaker 10: I think in this day and age, I think that

1267
01:11:15,975 --> 01:11:18,095
Speaker 10: a lot of people who live five minutes out of

1268
01:11:18,135 --> 01:11:22,535
Speaker 10: town think they're going rural. But the reality is that

1269
01:11:22,535 --> 01:11:25,575
Speaker 10: that's not what rural people consider rural. And every time

1270
01:11:25,575 --> 01:11:27,655
Speaker 10: I hop in my car, I drive half an hour

1271
01:11:28,135 --> 01:11:31,375
Speaker 10: to get anywhere, which is nothing unusual for people that

1272
01:11:31,415 --> 01:11:33,095
Speaker 10: live in the middle of town. They can still drive

1273
01:11:33,135 --> 01:11:35,615
Speaker 10: half an hour to get anywhere as well. But we're

1274
01:11:35,695 --> 01:11:40,655
Speaker 10: forty forty five minutes from a town that's got a

1275
01:11:40,655 --> 01:11:45,775
Speaker 10: fire station and we are farming. We have just gone

1276
01:11:45,815 --> 01:11:48,935
Speaker 10: through the process in the White Kiddow of putting a

1277
01:11:48,975 --> 01:11:53,575
Speaker 10: relocatable house on four staff. We have had to go

1278
01:11:53,655 --> 01:11:56,935
Speaker 10: through this process. We have had to put two forty

1279
01:11:56,935 --> 01:12:01,175
Speaker 10: five thousand meters of water available within It had to

1280
01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:06,295
Speaker 10: be more than six meters, but the ninety meters from

1281
01:12:06,735 --> 01:12:11,215
Speaker 10: that new dwelling, it couldn't be our efflent ponds. We

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Speaker 10: obviously have huge effluent ponds that couldn't be effluent ponds

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Speaker 10: because of the water.

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Speaker 4: It couldn't be.

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Speaker 10: Water that we're using, and yet we have forty five

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Speaker 10: minutes from a town. So the reality is that slab comment,

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Speaker 10: you know, that is just obvious for most rural people

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01:12:33,695 --> 01:12:36,655
Speaker 10: unless you lived five, ten, fifteen minutes out of town,

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Speaker 10: it's going to be just not a no brainer that

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Speaker 10: they're not going to get there to be able to

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Speaker 10: even do anything.

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Speaker 4: And we still have to go through this process.

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Speaker 10: And I was trying to find the radiations for you

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01:12:50,415 --> 01:12:52,375
Speaker 10: to say under which prevision of the building.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and some.

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Speaker 10: People are putting in swimming pools, and you know that

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Speaker 10: makes sense if it's for your own personal use, but

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01:13:03,815 --> 01:13:05,935
Speaker 10: why would you put a swimming call in for workers

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01:13:05,935 --> 01:13:08,055
Speaker 10: that may or may not be there, and you know

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01:13:08,215 --> 01:13:10,095
Speaker 10: they may and a lot of these people don't want

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01:13:10,095 --> 01:13:14,135
Speaker 10: a swimming pool, so that's not practical. And some people

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01:13:14,175 --> 01:13:18,295
Speaker 10: are putting in an unimental pond just to cover the requirement.

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Speaker 10: But and to be fair, the council, you know, they

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01:13:23,055 --> 01:13:25,815
Speaker 10: didn't hold this up and say you know you have

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01:13:25,975 --> 01:13:27,535
Speaker 10: to do it, well you have to do it because

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01:13:27,535 --> 01:13:30,535
Speaker 10: they won't give you code of compliance. But the reality

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01:13:30,615 --> 01:13:33,215
Speaker 10: is it wasn't a huge issue, but it's still something

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01:13:33,255 --> 01:13:34,495
Speaker 10: you have to pick off the box.

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Speaker 2: And this is where you know, you're obviously realistic enough

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01:13:40,255 --> 01:13:43,495
Speaker 2: to know that one of the risks associated with living

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Speaker 2: in a rural environment where like you say, you're what

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01:13:46,895 --> 01:13:50,335
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty minutes from a fire station. So by

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01:13:50,375 --> 01:13:53,735
Speaker 2: the time an alert goes to the brigade and they

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01:13:54,375 --> 01:13:57,255
Speaker 2: if it's rural, chances are it's mainly volunteers by the

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01:13:57,255 --> 01:13:59,175
Speaker 2: time they get there, and then they drive all the

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01:13:59,175 --> 01:14:02,055
Speaker 2: way to your place. Even if you've got fifty thousand

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01:14:02,095 --> 01:14:04,055
Speaker 2: liters of water, there's no one there to use it,

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01:14:04,375 --> 01:14:08,775
Speaker 2: and the house has already gone, right, And so you're

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01:14:08,855 --> 01:14:11,095
Speaker 2: right that comment about that they're there to wash down

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01:14:11,135 --> 01:14:15,015
Speaker 2: the slab is absolutely right. But in the meantime, a

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01:14:15,095 --> 01:14:19,135
Speaker 2: not insignificant amount of cost has been incurred by the

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01:14:19,135 --> 01:14:23,295
Speaker 2: homeowner to make provision for something that no one's actually

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01:14:23,375 --> 01:14:26,415
Speaker 2: practically ever going to use to protect your house.

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01:14:27,775 --> 01:14:31,855
Speaker 10: Correct, Yeah, And Like when I looked at it, because

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01:14:31,935 --> 01:14:34,015
Speaker 10: I have a background in a law so I thought

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01:14:34,015 --> 01:14:37,935
Speaker 10: this is ridiculous. Yeah, sure, but you know it should be.

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01:14:38,695 --> 01:14:40,855
Speaker 10: There should be something to say if you live with it.

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01:14:40,895 --> 01:14:43,135
Speaker 10: Like I can appreciate it when I'm driving home and

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01:14:43,175 --> 01:14:45,895
Speaker 10: I go past properties that are five minutes out of town. Yeah,

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01:14:45,935 --> 01:14:48,695
Speaker 10: sure that would be a good idea. But when you've

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01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:52,255
Speaker 10: driven half an hour forty five minutes to get home

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01:14:53,255 --> 01:14:56,335
Speaker 10: and you still have to do it, Like we've got

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01:14:56,375 --> 01:14:58,975
Speaker 10: a three k driveway. So even when we have visitors

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01:14:58,975 --> 01:15:01,695
Speaker 10: come on farm, you know, they tend to get lost,

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01:15:02,615 --> 01:15:03,295
Speaker 10: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 17: We live in rural.

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01:15:04,375 --> 01:15:05,775
Speaker 4: This is what rural is.

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Speaker 10: And you know, to think that you still have to

1339
01:15:08,215 --> 01:15:11,255
Speaker 10: have forty five thousand meds sitting there just in case

1340
01:15:11,495 --> 01:15:13,255
Speaker 10: you have a fire, it's just.

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01:15:13,215 --> 01:15:15,215
Speaker 2: Not which no one's going to count, no one's going

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01:15:15,255 --> 01:15:18,015
Speaker 2: to get to you in time to use it. That's

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01:15:18,095 --> 01:15:19,735
Speaker 2: that's the harsh reality of it, isn't it.

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01:15:20,415 --> 01:15:24,175
Speaker 10: Yes, that is serious, And so that's a practical side. People,

1345
01:15:24,495 --> 01:15:27,335
Speaker 10: you know, rural people say these aren't practical.

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01:15:27,815 --> 01:15:30,015
Speaker 4: This is the sort of practical thing. And you know

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01:15:30,095 --> 01:15:32,415
Speaker 4: that poor guy that had to get a result wouldn't

1348
01:15:32,415 --> 01:15:32,815
Speaker 4: need to get.

1349
01:15:32,695 --> 01:15:35,255
Speaker 2: A results to draw water stream.

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01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:38,535
Speaker 10: That's one step higher than what I even had to do,

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01:15:39,015 --> 01:15:43,295
Speaker 10: because you know, he then had to worry about taking

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01:15:43,375 --> 01:15:45,695
Speaker 10: water from the ground, which God forbid. You know, who

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01:15:45,695 --> 01:15:47,455
Speaker 10: would be allowed to do something like that?

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01:15:49,735 --> 01:15:52,495
Speaker 2: Interesting? And this is where I do wonder whether these

1355
01:15:52,575 --> 01:15:56,295
Speaker 2: reforms to the RMA might start to look at this

1356
01:15:56,415 --> 01:15:59,775
Speaker 2: sort of thing where I guess what was well intentioned

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01:15:59,895 --> 01:16:03,135
Speaker 2: and so on in the first place is grow into

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01:16:03,175 --> 01:16:07,215
Speaker 2: an impractical point. You know that it's it's in that

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01:16:07,255 --> 01:16:09,375
Speaker 2: case where someone's got a stream and they might use

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01:16:09,415 --> 01:16:13,095
Speaker 2: that for provision for water for fire fighting, that's sensible.

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01:16:13,215 --> 01:16:17,015
Speaker 2: We know that that will occur, hopefully not never, but

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01:16:17,135 --> 01:16:20,375
Speaker 2: maybe once in a lifetime. Or you know, in that case,

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01:16:20,455 --> 01:16:23,695
Speaker 2: making spending eight thousand dollars to get a resource consent

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01:16:24,015 --> 01:16:29,255
Speaker 2: for something you might never actually do. That's the madness

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01:16:29,295 --> 01:16:31,975
Speaker 2: of it, really.

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01:16:30,975 --> 01:16:33,615
Speaker 10: Really totality of it. You know, we could when I

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01:16:33,655 --> 01:16:37,975
Speaker 10: put my building application and I said, we are this

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01:16:38,255 --> 01:16:44,055
Speaker 10: distance from this fire station and so therefore practically this

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01:16:44,175 --> 01:16:48,935
Speaker 10: is not going to be necessary. But there's nothing like that.

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01:16:49,135 --> 01:16:50,455
Speaker 10: It's just not practical.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, would it be the sort of

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01:16:53,215 --> 01:16:55,695
Speaker 2: thing that if you obviously you're going to need to

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01:16:55,695 --> 01:16:58,535
Speaker 2: put these tanks in that if there was let's say

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01:16:58,695 --> 01:17:02,375
Speaker 2: a brush fire nearby, could you then just with a

1375
01:17:02,455 --> 01:17:06,375
Speaker 2: domestic water pump be able to wet your house down on?

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01:17:06,535 --> 01:17:07,855
Speaker 2: You know, the sort of thing that we see people

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01:17:07,855 --> 01:17:11,335
Speaker 2: in Australia and in California and that doing where you

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01:17:11,455 --> 01:17:14,015
Speaker 2: clear the brush around your house, and particularly if you're

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01:17:14,695 --> 01:17:17,295
Speaker 2: Central Otago, that sort of thing where it does get

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01:17:17,375 --> 01:17:18,975
Speaker 2: dry and where there have been I mean there's been

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01:17:19,055 --> 01:17:22,815
Speaker 2: fires all across the country, but some areas are increasingly

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01:17:22,855 --> 01:17:25,535
Speaker 2: I guess high risk in terms of fires that you know,

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01:17:25,575 --> 01:17:28,615
Speaker 2: if you've if you've cut back brush and you were

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01:17:28,695 --> 01:17:32,495
Speaker 2: there and you wanted to protect your house by being

1385
01:17:32,535 --> 01:17:35,095
Speaker 2: able to damp down the area and you had provision,

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01:17:36,175 --> 01:17:39,935
Speaker 2: then that that seems practical. But in terms of it

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01:17:40,015 --> 01:17:42,135
Speaker 2: being there for a fire engine that's going to take

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01:17:42,215 --> 01:17:45,095
Speaker 2: thirty minutes to arrive, that doesn't make any sense.

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01:17:44,895 --> 01:17:45,135
Speaker 13: Does it.

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01:17:46,455 --> 01:17:46,535
Speaker 5: No?

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01:17:47,135 --> 01:17:50,335
Speaker 10: Yeah, then getting into a whole different thing, because you know,

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01:17:50,415 --> 01:17:52,695
Speaker 10: I can in New Zealand it can appreciate you know,

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01:17:53,175 --> 01:17:57,655
Speaker 10: these people that are living close to large areas of

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01:17:59,095 --> 01:18:02,895
Speaker 10: trees that could we have had and that's you know

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01:18:02,895 --> 01:18:04,535
Speaker 10: a few in Fame. We live in the way Cottow,

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01:18:04,855 --> 01:18:08,175
Speaker 10: you know, like it's been that. You know when the

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01:18:08,535 --> 01:18:10,095
Speaker 10: lake Arapuni.

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01:18:09,575 --> 01:18:12,215
Speaker 4: We've got the work at a river at our doorsteps.

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01:18:11,695 --> 01:18:13,455
Speaker 10: You know what I mean, it's not like there's nowhere

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01:18:13,495 --> 01:18:16,895
Speaker 10: else to draw water from. And the whitehadow, Yeah, that

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01:18:16,975 --> 01:18:20,095
Speaker 10: could be quite Yeah, this could be quite practical and

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01:18:20,575 --> 01:18:23,455
Speaker 10: down in Otago or somewhere like that where you know

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01:18:23,815 --> 01:18:27,375
Speaker 10: or areas that they do have fires like that, or

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01:18:27,415 --> 01:18:29,935
Speaker 10: there is a likelihood of that. But the reality is

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01:18:30,255 --> 01:18:32,975
Speaker 10: the chances of that happening are just probably the same

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01:18:33,015 --> 01:18:36,455
Speaker 10: percentage as a chance of one of our houses on

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01:18:36,575 --> 01:18:39,695
Speaker 10: farm burning down, which you know is not nice but

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01:18:40,055 --> 01:18:44,815
Speaker 10: does happen to some people. But it's not that high. Yeah,

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01:18:44,975 --> 01:18:47,175
Speaker 10: the percentage is not that high. And yet the whole

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01:18:47,175 --> 01:18:52,935
Speaker 10: country has, the whole rural population has to put forty

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01:18:52,975 --> 01:18:56,175
Speaker 10: five thousand liters in case it happens to them.

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01:18:56,575 --> 01:19:00,415
Speaker 2: Yeah, really appreciate the conversation, and thanks for the and

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01:19:00,495 --> 01:19:04,175
Speaker 2: put and the nuanced parts of that discussion as well.

1414
01:19:04,255 --> 01:19:07,215
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. It is it's coming up ten minutes

1415
01:19:07,215 --> 01:19:09,455
Speaker 2: away from eight o'clock. Remember we got news at eight.

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01:19:09,455 --> 01:19:11,335
Speaker 2: We've still got time for a couple more calls before

1417
01:19:11,335 --> 01:19:14,455
Speaker 2: the news. After the news will take your calls on

1418
01:19:14,535 --> 01:19:19,095
Speaker 2: building construction regulations, firefighting, water storage, these sorts of things

1419
01:19:19,175 --> 01:19:21,215
Speaker 2: right up to eight thirty. And then of course it's

1420
01:19:21,295 --> 01:19:23,975
Speaker 2: red climb passed from eight thirty this morning, it is

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01:19:24,095 --> 01:19:24,615
Speaker 2: ten to eight.

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01:19:25,255 --> 01:19:27,895
Speaker 1: If it creaks leaks, cracks or squeeks. Some is the

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01:19:27,935 --> 01:19:30,215
Speaker 1: time to get it sort of call oh, eight hundred

1424
01:19:30,255 --> 01:19:34,215
Speaker 1: eighty eight the resident builder with Peter Worldcare News talks.

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01:19:34,415 --> 01:19:38,655
Speaker 2: Be just looking at a text that's come through. I'm

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01:19:38,655 --> 01:19:42,535
Speaker 2: going to save you some time. The fire Fighting Rural

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01:19:42,615 --> 01:19:46,015
Speaker 2: Requirements is not in the Building Act. It's in each

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01:19:46,135 --> 01:19:51,455
Speaker 2: Council's Resource Management Act requirements as fens have consulted with it.

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01:19:51,615 --> 01:19:56,015
Speaker 2: Varies on what each planning department may have taken on board.

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01:19:56,455 --> 01:20:01,335
Speaker 2: CCC cannot be withheld on completion without it, but after

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01:20:01,655 --> 01:20:05,535
Speaker 2: that the Planning department will infringe if it's not done

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01:20:05,615 --> 01:20:09,615
Speaker 2: as an even fringed on your planning regulation info within council.

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01:20:09,735 --> 01:20:11,975
Speaker 2: Here cheers, Now, I'm not sure what. I don't think

1434
01:20:12,055 --> 01:20:13,855
Speaker 2: I got the link, but I will. It gives me

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01:20:13,975 --> 01:20:16,695
Speaker 2: somewhere to lock which would be really interesting. Oh, eight

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01:20:16,815 --> 01:20:18,935
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. We've got a little bit of

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01:20:18,975 --> 01:20:21,335
Speaker 2: time before the news top of the hour. It's been

1438
01:20:21,335 --> 01:20:24,415
Speaker 2: a busy old morning. Actually, it's been great. Nice to

1439
01:20:24,415 --> 01:20:27,375
Speaker 2: be back in the studio. It was great, I think,

1440
01:20:28,215 --> 01:20:30,895
Speaker 2: to be able to bring you the show as we

1441
01:20:30,895 --> 01:20:34,335
Speaker 2: were traveling, so it was kind of like five o'clock

1442
01:20:34,335 --> 01:20:38,055
Speaker 2: in the evening and Europe or six o'clock in the evening.

1443
01:20:38,055 --> 01:20:40,535
Speaker 2: It was about nine o'clock in the morning in Los

1444
01:20:40,575 --> 01:20:43,975
Speaker 2: Angeles doing the show, so quite sort of pleasant hours

1445
01:20:44,015 --> 01:20:48,575
Speaker 2: to be working. I guess it's not an early start

1446
01:20:48,615 --> 01:20:50,895
Speaker 2: when you're in the Northern Hemisphere. It's more staying up

1447
01:20:50,935 --> 01:20:53,335
Speaker 2: a bit late. And I think, actually, I don't think

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01:20:53,335 --> 01:20:55,895
Speaker 2: I shared the photograph, but I'm not even going to

1449
01:20:55,935 --> 01:20:58,495
Speaker 2: go there, right, that's a story that I'll keep to myself. Oh,

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01:20:58,495 --> 01:21:02,575
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eight is that I realized where

1451
01:21:02,575 --> 01:21:04,855
Speaker 2: I was going with that and thought time to just

1452
01:21:04,855 --> 01:21:08,055
Speaker 2: shut up off camp. Right, If you've got a question

1453
01:21:08,095 --> 01:21:09,855
Speaker 2: of building nature, you should give us a call. Couple

1454
01:21:09,855 --> 01:21:13,175
Speaker 2: of other texts that have come through. Thanks Jen for

1455
01:21:13,495 --> 01:21:16,775
Speaker 2: your text saying this has actually been a really interesting discussion.

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01:21:17,335 --> 01:21:21,775
Speaker 2: I found it really interesting and in terms of like,

1457
01:21:21,855 --> 01:21:24,375
Speaker 2: we all know that it's the right thing to do

1458
01:21:25,215 --> 01:21:28,295
Speaker 2: to some degree, but then there's also that pragmatic element,

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01:21:28,335 --> 01:21:31,575
Speaker 2: which is what Karina highlighted. They live rurally, They've got

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01:21:31,575 --> 01:21:34,215
Speaker 2: a three kilometer long driveway, they're the better part of

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01:21:34,295 --> 01:21:37,175
Speaker 2: thirty minutes out of town. By the time the Friar

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01:21:37,215 --> 01:21:39,855
Speaker 2: Brigade gets there. There won't be and this is a

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01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,215
Speaker 2: horrible thing to say, there just won't be anything left

1464
01:21:42,215 --> 01:21:44,735
Speaker 2: to the house. If it's a fully involved fire, the

1465
01:21:44,815 --> 01:21:48,975
Speaker 2: house will be gone. There's no adjoining property, so the

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01:21:49,015 --> 01:21:53,135
Speaker 2: prevention of fire spread is not an issue. And I think,

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01:21:53,375 --> 01:21:57,295
Speaker 2: you know, firefighters, I think in urban environments probably focus

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01:21:57,375 --> 01:22:01,735
Speaker 2: on protection of life, but then protection of property, as

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01:22:01,735 --> 01:22:04,335
Speaker 2: in neighboring properties, that would be the bigger concern. If

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01:22:04,335 --> 01:22:07,775
Speaker 2: the house is fully involved, there's no saving it, so

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01:22:07,855 --> 01:22:10,575
Speaker 2: what you want to do is prevent the adjoining houses

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01:22:10,815 --> 01:22:14,655
Speaker 2: from igniting as a result of that, so I guess

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01:22:14,655 --> 01:22:17,175
Speaker 2: most of the effort goes into protecting other property rather

1474
01:22:17,215 --> 01:22:20,775
Speaker 2: than actually looking after the house that's burning down. It's

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01:22:20,815 --> 01:22:24,375
Speaker 2: a been an interesting discussion, oh, eight hundred eight ten eighty,

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01:22:24,375 --> 01:22:27,055
Speaker 2: but it will be also really really interesting to see

1477
01:22:27,055 --> 01:22:29,855
Speaker 2: where the reforms for the RIMA go, and of course

1478
01:22:29,935 --> 01:22:32,655
Speaker 2: reforms to regional councils and what that might mean for

1479
01:22:32,735 --> 01:22:36,255
Speaker 2: planning regulations like this as well in a rural area.

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01:22:36,455 --> 01:22:38,495
Speaker 2: I think we're going to be doing a few interviews

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01:22:38,615 --> 01:22:40,855
Speaker 2: this year on these sorts of things, coming up to

1482
01:22:40,935 --> 01:22:42,855
Speaker 2: news time Top of the Hour at eight Give us

1483
01:22:42,895 --> 01:22:44,535
Speaker 2: a call now, we'll get things sorted out and have

1484
01:22:44,655 --> 01:22:46,975
Speaker 2: you on air straight after the news at eight o'clock.

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01:22:50,855 --> 01:22:51,375
Speaker 5: I think.

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01:22:53,295 --> 01:22:57,895
Speaker 1: Suns out tools out. If your summer DIY starts here

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01:22:58,215 --> 01:23:01,495
Speaker 1: the resident builder with Peter Wolf Care, call eight hundred

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01:23:01,575 --> 01:23:04,535
Speaker 1: eighty eight News talk Z b Oh, very.

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01:23:04,375 --> 01:23:07,215
Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome back. Oh eight hundred eight eighty

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01:23:07,415 --> 01:23:10,095
Speaker 2: is the number to call. Texts up and running as well,

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01:23:10,175 --> 01:23:12,295
Speaker 2: nine two nine two, and a couple of people have

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01:23:12,335 --> 01:23:15,415
Speaker 2: emailed as well. That's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot

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01:23:15,535 --> 01:23:19,615
Speaker 2: m Z. Earlier on, very very early on we talked

1494
01:23:19,615 --> 01:23:22,775
Speaker 2: about aluminium jowinery and a couple of people have said, oh,

1495
01:23:22,815 --> 01:23:26,175
Speaker 2: what were the companies that you mentioned that do the repairs?

1496
01:23:27,175 --> 01:23:32,095
Speaker 2: So I guess nationwide you'd be talking about Exceed window

1497
01:23:32,175 --> 01:23:37,695
Speaker 2: jowinery repairs. I think I've recommended them or used them before.

1498
01:23:38,215 --> 01:23:40,815
Speaker 2: And then in Auckland is a smaller company that I

1499
01:23:40,895 --> 01:23:45,495
Speaker 2: use for sort of installation and repairs called CFA Maintenance,

1500
01:23:45,535 --> 01:23:49,975
Speaker 2: so c f A as well, so hopefully that helps.

1501
01:23:50,415 --> 01:23:53,895
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about water tanks and it's obviously topical,

1502
01:23:53,935 --> 01:24:01,655
Speaker 2: so paul A very good morning to you. There you go, gotcha, Hello, Paul, Yeah,

1503
01:24:01,695 --> 01:24:03,695
Speaker 2: good morning Peter, how are you increasing very well?

1504
01:24:04,495 --> 01:24:08,095
Speaker 20: Yeah, look, this jet there's one of my favorite subjects

1505
01:24:08,135 --> 01:24:11,175
Speaker 20: because I've probably done probably close to ten of these

1506
01:24:11,175 --> 01:24:14,135
Speaker 20: systems and.

1507
01:24:13,415 --> 01:24:16,175
Speaker 2: The fire fighting storage.

1508
01:24:16,095 --> 01:24:19,615
Speaker 20: That's correct, Yes, because I live I'm a real funner

1509
01:24:19,695 --> 01:24:23,815
Speaker 20: as such, and yeah, so I've done a lot of

1510
01:24:23,855 --> 01:24:27,935
Speaker 20: them and I've had a love fight with the fire

1511
01:24:27,935 --> 01:24:32,775
Speaker 20: authority over them as well. Because now the last one

1512
01:24:32,815 --> 01:24:35,935
Speaker 20: I did I put in the system. I'm going to

1513
01:24:35,935 --> 01:24:38,175
Speaker 20: tell you it as too, because it's a really good system.

1514
01:24:38,215 --> 01:24:41,655
Speaker 20: It's called leap l e AP and the symbol is

1515
01:24:41,735 --> 01:24:46,095
Speaker 20: like a frog, and what that is is you've seen

1516
01:24:46,175 --> 01:24:47,975
Speaker 20: the plans of the house off to them, you know,

1517
01:24:48,255 --> 01:24:51,655
Speaker 20: I think based somewhere around about VIM or might be

1518
01:24:52,055 --> 01:24:55,215
Speaker 20: Paraperty I knew or something like that. And anyway, and

1519
01:24:55,535 --> 01:24:59,455
Speaker 20: then they will design your sprinkle system for your house.

1520
01:25:00,615 --> 01:25:02,535
Speaker 20: When you're doing the New World, you put the sprinkle

1521
01:25:02,655 --> 01:25:05,855
Speaker 20: system in and it wasn't really that expensive, to be

1522
01:25:05,855 --> 01:25:09,255
Speaker 20: honest with you. And the thing was is that the

1523
01:25:09,375 --> 01:25:12,295
Speaker 20: thing that sold me on it was everyone carries on

1524
01:25:12,335 --> 01:25:14,935
Speaker 20: about them saving the house is you're not saving the house.

1525
01:25:15,015 --> 01:25:17,615
Speaker 20: What you're doing is they're putting a system in so

1526
01:25:17,735 --> 01:25:21,015
Speaker 20: that because of all these products that say your couch

1527
01:25:21,095 --> 01:25:23,735
Speaker 20: or your bed or everything else is made inside the house.

1528
01:25:23,775 --> 01:25:26,495
Speaker 20: Once you get from the fire, it produces these topsic

1529
01:25:26,615 --> 01:25:30,495
Speaker 20: gacids that people just cannot have any way of getting

1530
01:25:30,535 --> 01:25:34,295
Speaker 20: out of the house, so they end up inhulating the

1531
01:25:35,575 --> 01:25:38,415
Speaker 20: smoke and then they can't get out. That's what kills them.

1532
01:25:38,455 --> 01:25:40,975
Speaker 20: So this gives them a chance to tell me put

1533
01:25:41,015 --> 01:25:44,095
Speaker 20: the fire out themselves, you know, with the sprink system

1534
01:25:44,335 --> 01:25:47,575
Speaker 20: and as well as the exit the property you know

1535
01:25:47,775 --> 01:25:51,415
Speaker 20: or exit the house. And what's the system you don't

1536
01:25:51,815 --> 01:25:54,935
Speaker 20: have to have. You can use your water tank supply

1537
01:25:55,455 --> 01:25:58,615
Speaker 20: that you're using to supply your house water because you've

1538
01:25:58,615 --> 01:26:03,135
Speaker 20: only got to say the last ten thousand leaders of

1539
01:26:03,215 --> 01:26:07,215
Speaker 20: the system for the sprinkles. So what you do is

1540
01:26:07,215 --> 01:26:10,415
Speaker 20: you put a connection part way up the tanks so

1541
01:26:10,455 --> 01:26:13,735
Speaker 20: that your house water or when you're the list of

1542
01:26:13,775 --> 01:26:15,615
Speaker 20: water you using comes off there.

1543
01:26:15,655 --> 01:26:16,935
Speaker 2: So it's like a retention tank.

1544
01:26:17,095 --> 01:26:20,055
Speaker 20: Yeah, get into the top three toilers of your water

1545
01:26:20,095 --> 01:26:23,415
Speaker 20: supply and the last quarter is only hill or the

1546
01:26:23,455 --> 01:26:26,415
Speaker 20: fire system. And you think, oh, how do I know

1547
01:26:26,535 --> 01:26:28,775
Speaker 20: this fly system is going to be working when it

1548
01:26:28,815 --> 01:26:31,015
Speaker 20: comes around to time when I want it in twenty

1549
01:26:31,095 --> 01:26:33,415
Speaker 20: years time? Because they all run off of pump. So

1550
01:26:33,495 --> 01:26:37,575
Speaker 20: what you do You hook all your toilets up to.

1551
01:26:37,615 --> 01:26:41,455
Speaker 2: That pump right right, Yes.

1552
01:26:42,775 --> 01:26:46,055
Speaker 20: Eleven liters of water every time, so you know that

1553
01:26:46,055 --> 01:26:49,455
Speaker 20: that pump's not that it's working every day. So the

1554
01:26:49,495 --> 01:26:52,495
Speaker 20: toilet stops going. You know, Oh, there's something wrong with

1555
01:26:52,495 --> 01:26:55,495
Speaker 20: you pump. So you'll go and fix the pump or that,

1556
01:26:55,535 --> 01:26:59,295
Speaker 20: you know whatever. So, because a lot of things are

1557
01:27:00,735 --> 01:27:03,455
Speaker 20: when you have a disaster, it seems to be one

1558
01:27:03,495 --> 01:27:06,735
Speaker 20: failure after another, failure after another failure, and a lot

1559
01:27:06,775 --> 01:27:08,855
Speaker 20: of them they have not been checked all the way

1560
01:27:08,935 --> 01:27:12,335
Speaker 20: through something, you know, and you go, oh, there was

1561
01:27:12,415 --> 01:27:15,735
Speaker 20: a whole heap of maintenances were had a family in

1562
01:27:15,775 --> 01:27:18,135
Speaker 20: the back of that pump motor. That's what never went.

1563
01:27:18,215 --> 01:27:23,215
Speaker 20: And the only thing too, is that with a lot of.

1564
01:27:23,455 --> 01:27:25,935
Speaker 2: Can I just ask you a quick question, Paul, So

1565
01:27:26,055 --> 01:27:30,775
Speaker 2: in the event that, let's say there's a regional resource

1566
01:27:31,055 --> 01:27:36,575
Speaker 2: management requirement to provide water storage for firefighting, if you

1567
01:27:37,335 --> 01:27:40,375
Speaker 2: can you in your experience, have you been able to

1568
01:27:40,455 --> 01:27:42,575
Speaker 2: go back to them as part of the building consent

1569
01:27:42,655 --> 01:27:45,695
Speaker 2: or resource consent process and say, look, as an alternative,

1570
01:27:45,975 --> 01:27:49,655
Speaker 2: the homeowner wants to install the sprinkler system this is

1571
01:27:49,695 --> 01:27:53,135
Speaker 2: how it works. This is and therefore we don't need

1572
01:27:53,175 --> 01:27:56,895
Speaker 2: to provide the water storage for fire fighting because we've

1573
01:27:56,895 --> 01:28:01,455
Speaker 2: made this provision to protect the house and that's been accepted.

1574
01:28:01,615 --> 01:28:04,015
Speaker 2: Or do council simply say, nah, you can do that.

1575
01:28:04,215 --> 01:28:06,255
Speaker 2: You've still got to have the water storage.

1576
01:28:06,855 --> 01:28:09,135
Speaker 20: What they do, what the council do is they send

1577
01:28:09,135 --> 01:28:14,575
Speaker 20: it off to someone from the fire you know they anyway,

1578
01:28:14,615 --> 01:28:17,255
Speaker 20: and then and then they then sign plans off.

1579
01:28:17,335 --> 01:28:17,535
Speaker 7: Right.

1580
01:28:18,015 --> 01:28:21,375
Speaker 20: And the thing is is that sends themselves do not

1581
01:28:21,575 --> 01:28:26,855
Speaker 20: like these frint systems, right, because it's true. They don't

1582
01:28:26,895 --> 01:28:29,455
Speaker 20: like them because it's so like half I do them

1583
01:28:29,455 --> 01:28:35,415
Speaker 20: out of the job and the bloody true. Now, the

1584
01:28:35,455 --> 01:28:38,455
Speaker 20: other thing too is that they like the tanks, the

1585
01:28:38,535 --> 01:28:41,095
Speaker 20: fifty thousand leaders. This is a which is a good thing.

1586
01:28:41,175 --> 01:28:44,295
Speaker 20: I can appreciate this. They like the fifty thousand leaders

1587
01:28:44,295 --> 01:28:47,575
Speaker 20: to be within six meters of your front boundary where

1588
01:28:47,615 --> 01:28:50,495
Speaker 20: the buy trucks or whatever's going to come in. For

1589
01:28:50,575 --> 01:28:52,815
Speaker 20: the reason being is that they can come along and

1590
01:28:52,855 --> 01:28:55,055
Speaker 20: hop onto it. If they have your neighbour's places on

1591
01:28:55,135 --> 01:28:57,215
Speaker 20: four or one up road, they can hook onto that

1592
01:28:57,255 --> 01:28:59,895
Speaker 20: and suck that water out as well. So it's not

1593
01:28:59,975 --> 01:29:02,455
Speaker 20: just your house you're protecting, so I can appreciate all

1594
01:29:02,455 --> 01:29:05,775
Speaker 20: that part of it, you know, because people do get

1595
01:29:05,815 --> 01:29:09,215
Speaker 20: all what would you call it, They get all bitter

1596
01:29:09,255 --> 01:29:12,775
Speaker 20: and twisted. They go, what should I have to pay

1597
01:29:13,415 --> 01:29:17,015
Speaker 20: for the installation of all these tanks because my neighbors

1598
01:29:17,015 --> 01:29:19,775
Speaker 20: are getting the advantage of it as well. They ever thought.

1599
01:29:20,175 --> 01:29:24,495
Speaker 20: But at the time, you know, you don't. The people

1600
01:29:24,495 --> 01:29:26,895
Speaker 20: were thinking, cockie, this is going to cost me twenty

1601
01:29:26,975 --> 01:29:29,935
Speaker 20: thousand dollars to put this in as well. Got to

1602
01:29:29,975 --> 01:29:33,375
Speaker 20: put in a fire stand which is one hundred million

1603
01:29:33,375 --> 01:29:36,335
Speaker 20: point coming here was a valve on it. The valve

1604
01:29:36,375 --> 01:29:38,375
Speaker 20: on it's a thousand dollars just to turn the water

1605
01:29:38,415 --> 01:29:41,415
Speaker 20: off and on to hold a bat and that's without

1606
01:29:41,455 --> 01:29:43,855
Speaker 20: coming up. And you've got to have on the extent

1607
01:29:43,975 --> 01:29:46,615
Speaker 20: as well, you've got to have the special connection which

1608
01:29:46,695 --> 01:29:49,735
Speaker 20: the host or conto yep. So you've got to have

1609
01:29:50,375 --> 01:29:54,295
Speaker 20: all these little tag on bits, you know, and they

1610
01:29:54,295 --> 01:29:56,775
Speaker 20: are very very expensive. And the other way around that

1611
01:29:57,255 --> 01:29:59,015
Speaker 20: is you dig the tanks and so that they're a

1612
01:29:59,095 --> 01:30:01,535
Speaker 20: meter out of the ground and so they can just

1613
01:30:01,575 --> 01:30:03,295
Speaker 20: go along, lift the tops off and then.

1614
01:30:03,175 --> 01:30:04,815
Speaker 2: Drop them and drop a siphon straight in.

1615
01:30:05,615 --> 01:30:08,695
Speaker 20: It's correct so it gets your away from the fire

1616
01:30:08,815 --> 01:30:10,775
Speaker 20: stand in the valve and all the rest of them,

1617
01:30:11,055 --> 01:30:13,175
Speaker 20: save them left out of four thousand dollars.

1618
01:30:13,215 --> 01:30:18,095
Speaker 2: What man just doing that? Interesting look. I'm pleased that

1619
01:30:18,135 --> 01:30:21,575
Speaker 2: we've had the discussion because it's obviously something that I guess,

1620
01:30:21,575 --> 01:30:23,655
Speaker 2: if you know, for most of us who are urban,

1621
01:30:23,775 --> 01:30:27,775
Speaker 2: we're not necessarily aware of this, and yet it's something

1622
01:30:27,815 --> 01:30:31,975
Speaker 2: that's increasingly common for people in rural as semi rural

1623
01:30:32,535 --> 01:30:35,935
Speaker 2: environments that they're having to comply with because certainly it

1624
01:30:36,015 --> 01:30:40,495
Speaker 2: wasn't around. It was almost thirty years ago that I

1625
01:30:40,535 --> 01:30:43,535
Speaker 2: built a place on a ten acre block that was

1626
01:30:43,855 --> 01:30:46,495
Speaker 2: you know, would have had to have been thirty minutes

1627
01:30:46,535 --> 01:30:49,375
Speaker 2: from the nearest fire station, So there was none of

1628
01:30:49,415 --> 01:30:52,615
Speaker 2: these provisions at that time. So it's not exactly recent,

1629
01:30:52,695 --> 01:30:54,935
Speaker 2: but it's also not been there forever. So it's worth

1630
01:30:54,975 --> 01:30:57,775
Speaker 2: talking about and appreciate your input. And I'll have a

1631
01:30:57,775 --> 01:31:01,535
Speaker 2: look at that sprinkler system because that seems I mean,

1632
01:31:01,575 --> 01:31:04,535
Speaker 2: if you're in an environment where it's going to be

1633
01:31:04,695 --> 01:31:07,415
Speaker 2: a while for the fire brick to get to you,

1634
01:31:07,935 --> 01:31:11,095
Speaker 2: is that a sensible precaution to take. I'm going to

1635
01:31:11,135 --> 01:31:14,415
Speaker 2: discree with you, Paul, in terms of FINS don't like

1636
01:31:14,535 --> 01:31:17,495
Speaker 2: these systems. The one that we installed we did it

1637
01:31:17,575 --> 01:31:20,295
Speaker 2: in cooperation with FINS at the time. As I recall,

1638
01:31:20,975 --> 01:31:23,655
Speaker 2: oh weight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

1639
01:31:23,735 --> 01:31:28,015
Speaker 21: Call John greetings, Yes, how are you this morning?

1640
01:31:28,095 --> 01:31:30,735
Speaker 2: I'm very well John, and yourself pretty good?

1641
01:31:30,775 --> 01:31:31,375
Speaker 11: Thanks good.

1642
01:31:32,215 --> 01:31:34,655
Speaker 21: I'm right in this road is now doing the two

1643
01:31:34,735 --> 01:31:39,535
Speaker 21: tanks for the fire people, and it's going to cost

1644
01:31:40,535 --> 01:31:45,055
Speaker 21: seven or eight thousand dollars FMG, the insurance company are

1645
01:31:45,095 --> 01:31:49,135
Speaker 21: not interested in it, and I think that'd been better

1646
01:31:49,215 --> 01:31:52,375
Speaker 21: off if that made it. It's the rule for place

1647
01:31:52,695 --> 01:31:57,255
Speaker 21: made it compulsory to have fire extinguishers on your house.

1648
01:31:57,495 --> 01:32:00,255
Speaker 21: Outside your house, you get more out of it. The

1649
01:32:00,935 --> 01:32:05,655
Speaker 21: where I live is the wong Anui area, the Horror area.

1650
01:32:07,135 --> 01:32:09,375
Speaker 21: Their council rules are different. They don't have to have

1651
01:32:09,415 --> 01:32:11,255
Speaker 21: it there, but the wrong anu it. You've got to

1652
01:32:11,295 --> 01:32:14,735
Speaker 21: have the two tanks. We've got two concrete tanks now

1653
01:32:15,575 --> 01:32:18,815
Speaker 21: firfteen to twenty meters away from the house, forty thousand

1654
01:32:18,855 --> 01:32:22,855
Speaker 21: liters concrete. They won't melt down and we cannot put

1655
01:32:22,855 --> 01:32:24,815
Speaker 21: the feding into that because it's house water.

1656
01:32:25,575 --> 01:32:31,175
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. You're obviously doing a new build yes,

1657
01:32:32,055 --> 01:32:35,375
Speaker 2: in a rural area, and it's trickered the requirement through

1658
01:32:35,415 --> 01:32:39,375
Speaker 2: the planning legislation to have provision for firefighting or for

1659
01:32:39,495 --> 01:32:43,415
Speaker 2: water storage for firefighting. So you've got water tanks which

1660
01:32:43,495 --> 01:32:46,415
Speaker 2: for your postable supply, and then you're having to add

1661
01:32:46,455 --> 01:32:49,415
Speaker 2: additional tanks to provide for fire fighting.

1662
01:32:50,135 --> 01:32:54,375
Speaker 21: That's right. So now we've got to spend another seven

1663
01:32:54,495 --> 01:32:57,335
Speaker 21: or nine thousand dollars to put two more tanks in

1664
01:32:58,215 --> 01:33:02,175
Speaker 21: and the appropriate fitting I think is two thousand dollars. Yeah,

1665
01:33:03,415 --> 01:33:05,855
Speaker 21: and just sit there for nothing and now will never

1666
01:33:05,935 --> 01:33:06,895
Speaker 21: ever be used again.

1667
01:33:07,455 --> 01:33:09,575
Speaker 2: Well you hope that it will never be used again.

1668
01:33:09,615 --> 01:33:12,495
Speaker 21: Yeah, Well that's right. But I mean, so we're we're

1669
01:33:12,575 --> 01:33:15,335
Speaker 21: half an hour from from the from the fire station,

1670
01:33:15,535 --> 01:33:17,535
Speaker 21: so by the time they got there, the house to

1671
01:33:17,535 --> 01:33:19,015
Speaker 21: be half burned anyway.

1672
01:33:19,095 --> 01:33:21,655
Speaker 2: Probably more than half. That's that's the hard thing about it.

1673
01:33:22,415 --> 01:33:25,695
Speaker 2: Interesting to hear just how many people this is impacting.

1674
01:33:25,775 --> 01:33:28,695
Speaker 2: So again, John, appreciate the insight there, and good luck

1675
01:33:28,695 --> 01:33:33,135
Speaker 2: with that process. It is seventeen minutes. If I slay

1676
01:33:33,175 --> 01:33:36,295
Speaker 2: that slightly, it'll be exactly seventy minutes after eight if

1677
01:33:36,415 --> 01:33:38,575
Speaker 2: you would like to call, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1678
01:33:38,615 --> 01:33:40,335
Speaker 2: eighty is then number will take a couple more calls

1679
01:33:40,335 --> 01:33:42,455
Speaker 2: before we jump into the garden. The root climb passed

1680
01:33:42,495 --> 01:33:45,415
Speaker 2: as always with us from eight point thirty this morning,

1681
01:33:45,455 --> 01:33:47,855
Speaker 2: it is eight seventeen from.

1682
01:33:47,735 --> 01:33:51,735
Speaker 1: Summer backyard job to Big Rennolds. Let's talk it through call, Oh,

1683
01:33:51,735 --> 01:33:55,415
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the resident building with PETERWILFCAB

1684
01:33:55,575 --> 01:33:56,175
Speaker 1: news talks.

1685
01:33:56,215 --> 01:33:58,895
Speaker 2: That'd be you a news talks. It'd be eight hundred

1686
01:33:58,975 --> 01:34:01,335
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. We're taking a few more calls on building,

1687
01:34:01,375 --> 01:34:07,575
Speaker 2: and then we're into the garden with Rud Murray. Greetings, Yeah,

1688
01:34:07,975 --> 01:34:08,815
Speaker 2: yes Murray.

1689
01:34:10,135 --> 01:34:13,255
Speaker 12: Water storage on farms.

1690
01:34:12,415 --> 01:34:12,495
Speaker 7: Ye.

1691
01:34:13,735 --> 01:34:16,295
Speaker 2: Now I think your radio's on in the background, which

1692
01:34:16,295 --> 01:34:17,655
Speaker 2: is going to be definitely distracting.

1693
01:34:21,375 --> 01:34:22,255
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1694
01:34:22,455 --> 01:34:24,975
Speaker 22: One idea that they used to do was when you're

1695
01:34:24,975 --> 01:34:30,855
Speaker 22: building a patio out of concrete, was an idea of

1696
01:34:30,895 --> 01:34:33,255
Speaker 22: making water storage underneath it.

1697
01:34:33,935 --> 01:34:37,815
Speaker 2: Yes, I've done one of those, interestingly enough.

1698
01:34:39,095 --> 01:34:40,215
Speaker 11: So you got two and one.

1699
01:34:40,495 --> 01:34:40,975
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1700
01:34:41,255 --> 01:34:41,415
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1701
01:34:41,495 --> 01:34:41,535
Speaker 8: No.

1702
01:34:41,655 --> 01:34:43,815
Speaker 2: We did a house. It was on a slope, so

1703
01:34:43,855 --> 01:34:46,055
Speaker 2: we had to sort of do some retaining anyway, and

1704
01:34:46,615 --> 01:34:50,655
Speaker 2: ended up just blocking out It was probably about twenty

1705
01:34:50,735 --> 01:34:54,295
Speaker 2: five or thirty thousand liters of a chamber that we

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01:34:54,415 --> 01:34:57,615
Speaker 2: installed there or built as part of the overall built

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01:34:57,975 --> 01:35:00,655
Speaker 2: and then poured a concrete lit on the top of it.

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01:35:00,815 --> 01:35:03,255
Speaker 2: Quite interesting getting the boxing out of that afterwards, I

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01:35:03,295 --> 01:35:06,895
Speaker 2: have to say. And then wa proofed at all with

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01:35:06,935 --> 01:35:09,895
Speaker 2: an epoxy and I think there's still using it to

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01:35:09,935 --> 01:35:11,255
Speaker 2: this day. So yeah, it's an option.

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01:35:12,215 --> 01:35:12,415
Speaker 16: Yep.

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01:35:12,775 --> 01:35:13,255
Speaker 7: There you go.

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01:35:13,935 --> 01:35:17,455
Speaker 2: It's like your own aquifer. There you go, getting very Roman,

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01:35:18,095 --> 01:35:19,855
Speaker 2: very Roman. I have to say. One of the highlights

1716
01:35:19,855 --> 01:35:23,415
Speaker 2: on my little trip was wandering into a place in London.

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01:35:23,455 --> 01:35:26,295
Speaker 2: It was the oldest church in London, which I wasn't

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01:35:26,335 --> 01:35:27,895
Speaker 2: even looking for, but I saw it as I was

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01:35:27,935 --> 01:35:30,135
Speaker 2: wandering around, and at the base of that and the

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01:35:30,175 --> 01:35:33,295
Speaker 2: crypt of the church was the remains of a Roman floor,

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01:35:33,575 --> 01:35:36,135
Speaker 2: So when you're standing in there, you're looking back at well.

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01:35:36,135 --> 01:35:38,535
Speaker 2: I was from the second century, so eighteen hundred years

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01:35:39,135 --> 01:35:41,735
Speaker 2: of history in that one little spot. It was fantastic.

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01:35:42,015 --> 01:35:48,615
Speaker 2: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty ray Hello there, sir.

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01:35:50,455 --> 01:35:54,295
Speaker 23: I've been here today painting project that say gurage floor,

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01:35:54,375 --> 01:35:57,295
Speaker 23: but the previous owner didn't put down crop sheets for

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01:35:57,655 --> 01:36:00,215
Speaker 23: painting the ceiling. With his big globs of paint all

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01:36:00,215 --> 01:36:03,335
Speaker 23: over the garage floor and I was just wondering how

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01:36:03,415 --> 01:36:06,535
Speaker 23: to remove it and prepare the safer the paint do.

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01:36:07,655 --> 01:36:10,375
Speaker 2: I think the quickest way is going to be with

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01:36:10,495 --> 01:36:16,815
Speaker 2: a diamond disc diamond cup on a grinder. Ideally with

1732
01:36:17,815 --> 01:36:20,095
Speaker 2: you can get special shrouds that go around them that

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01:36:20,135 --> 01:36:24,815
Speaker 2: you can plug an extractor into and then just go

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01:36:24,935 --> 01:36:28,495
Speaker 2: through and just scuff. That'll take care of the paint.

1735
01:36:28,735 --> 01:36:31,175
Speaker 2: But also if you're going to paint the surface, it's

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01:36:31,295 --> 01:36:33,255
Speaker 2: quite a good idea if you sort of just go

1737
01:36:33,375 --> 01:36:35,935
Speaker 2: through the whole thing and just give it a really

1738
01:36:36,095 --> 01:36:40,095
Speaker 2: light grind over the entire surface that tends to clean

1739
01:36:40,175 --> 01:36:43,255
Speaker 2: up the surface. Then you can use the right primer

1740
01:36:43,335 --> 01:36:46,495
Speaker 2: and the right top coat to do your your painting.

1741
01:36:46,495 --> 01:36:47,895
Speaker 2: If you're going to paint the floor.

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01:36:49,015 --> 01:36:54,615
Speaker 23: Does that paint Does that help when mark aably it

1743
01:36:54,615 --> 01:36:56,775
Speaker 23: can kind of wear a way the paint of the concrete.

1744
01:36:56,815 --> 01:37:00,575
Speaker 23: Is it any protection against that? There was a prim

1745
01:37:00,975 --> 01:37:01,615
Speaker 23: take care of that.

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01:37:02,335 --> 01:37:03,655
Speaker 2: I think in the end, you've got to be a

1747
01:37:03,735 --> 01:37:06,615
Speaker 2: little bit realistic unless you go for you know, sort

1748
01:37:06,615 --> 01:37:10,855
Speaker 2: of the high quality and probably quite expensive epoxies that

1749
01:37:11,295 --> 01:37:13,415
Speaker 2: you might get if you were doing let's say, ceiling

1750
01:37:13,495 --> 01:37:18,095
Speaker 2: the garage floor of a garage or a service area

1751
01:37:18,135 --> 01:37:21,055
Speaker 2: which is the high build of poxies. If you're doing

1752
01:37:21,255 --> 01:37:25,895
Speaker 2: painting yourself, then you recognize that tires turning will over

1753
01:37:25,975 --> 01:37:28,975
Speaker 2: time deteriorate the paint system and then it's just a

1754
01:37:29,055 --> 01:37:31,215
Speaker 2: maintenance issue to keep on top of it. But you

1755
01:37:31,215 --> 01:37:35,015
Speaker 2: could certainly investigate. I mean, there are epoxy coatings that

1756
01:37:35,055 --> 01:37:37,695
Speaker 2: you can apply to flaws that you can then drive on,

1757
01:37:37,935 --> 01:37:40,135
Speaker 2: or you can take an approach that goes, I'm going

1758
01:37:40,175 --> 01:37:42,095
Speaker 2: to do some painting and if I need to redo

1759
01:37:42,095 --> 01:37:44,375
Speaker 2: it in a couple of years. But the preparation is

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01:37:44,455 --> 01:37:48,735
Speaker 2: what's going to give you the best performance of your

1761
01:37:48,735 --> 01:37:51,615
Speaker 2: paint system if you've prepared it well so that it

1762
01:37:51,735 --> 01:37:55,375
Speaker 2: actually that paint actually keys into the surface. If you

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01:37:55,495 --> 01:37:58,415
Speaker 2: leave it where it's got years and years of dust

1764
01:37:58,455 --> 01:38:00,255
Speaker 2: and debris and a little bit of grime and all

1765
01:38:00,255 --> 01:38:02,055
Speaker 2: the rest of it on it, or paint's not going

1766
01:38:02,095 --> 01:38:04,615
Speaker 2: to stick to that. So that's where the diamond grind

1767
01:38:05,015 --> 01:38:08,015
Speaker 2: gives you that opted for the paint to bond to

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01:38:08,055 --> 01:38:08,615
Speaker 2: the surface.

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01:38:09,855 --> 01:38:11,575
Speaker 23: Okay, that's great, yeah, very much.

1770
01:38:11,695 --> 01:38:15,575
Speaker 2: But do I mean I've done it well. I've done

1771
01:38:15,575 --> 01:38:18,455
Speaker 2: it once where I didn't have the right gear. It's

1772
01:38:18,495 --> 01:38:21,215
Speaker 2: a lot of dust and it's it's not terribly healthy.

1773
01:38:21,295 --> 01:38:23,735
Speaker 2: So you know, for sixty or seventy bucks, you can

1774
01:38:23,735 --> 01:38:25,655
Speaker 2: buy a shroud. I actually brought one from my little

1775
01:38:25,695 --> 01:38:27,975
Speaker 2: grinder the other day. It's got a port on the

1776
01:38:28,015 --> 01:38:31,215
Speaker 2: side of it, and if you're grinding, then attach a

1777
01:38:31,455 --> 01:38:33,855
Speaker 2: vacuum cleaner to it and make sure you're trying to

1778
01:38:33,935 --> 01:38:38,255
Speaker 2: keep that dust down as much as possible. Right, all

1779
01:38:38,255 --> 01:38:42,575
Speaker 2: of this take care see great Ray and last conversation

1780
01:38:42,655 --> 01:38:47,815
Speaker 2: for the day. Quick comment from you Ross.

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01:38:46,535 --> 01:38:49,975
Speaker 13: Great show matey the morning on a farm or most

1782
01:38:50,015 --> 01:38:54,055
Speaker 13: of what there's gold as much as you can get

1783
01:38:54,615 --> 01:38:57,175
Speaker 13: either a couple of shed fires, I'll tell you what. Yeah,

1784
01:38:58,015 --> 01:39:03,255
Speaker 13: they couldn't even get near the tanks for they taks

1785
01:39:03,295 --> 01:39:07,095
Speaker 13: got that hot. A while I've gone onto that. Yeah,

1786
01:39:07,175 --> 01:39:09,775
Speaker 13: you have to can't water with ten minutes for three

1787
01:39:09,855 --> 01:39:14,495
Speaker 13: minutes from they may for me and there was they

1788
01:39:14,575 --> 01:39:16,935
Speaker 13: couldn't couldn't out the sheep. But they say, what even

1789
01:39:17,015 --> 01:39:19,455
Speaker 13: us around it the heat was so dim so they

1790
01:39:19,855 --> 01:39:24,895
Speaker 13: and k Yeah, great wonders from you know age in

1791
01:39:24,895 --> 01:39:28,175
Speaker 13: a way, so water was gold much water as you

1792
01:39:28,215 --> 01:39:31,255
Speaker 13: can store the farm?

1793
01:39:29,455 --> 01:39:35,895
Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, absolutely, Look you're not going to get an

1794
01:39:35,935 --> 01:39:38,895
Speaker 2: argument from me, I think absolutely. If you can get

1795
01:39:38,935 --> 01:39:43,775
Speaker 2: water storage, but actually someone's tax it sounds easy.

1796
01:39:43,615 --> 01:39:47,055
Speaker 13: Engine the other way that the other wise you have.

1797
01:39:48,095 --> 01:39:50,375
Speaker 13: They don't use it. One of those things. Just swap

1798
01:39:50,455 --> 01:39:52,135
Speaker 13: them over and use it one the team keep the

1799
01:39:52,135 --> 01:39:52,535
Speaker 13: other one.

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01:39:53,535 --> 01:39:56,615
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they're very clear if you if

1801
01:39:56,655 --> 01:40:00,655
Speaker 2: there's a planning requirement to provide water storage for firefighting,

1802
01:40:01,215 --> 01:40:04,295
Speaker 2: you can't connect that to anything else. So it can't

1803
01:40:04,335 --> 01:40:08,655
Speaker 2: become part of your let's say overflow, or it can't

1804
01:40:08,695 --> 01:40:12,295
Speaker 2: be you know, a back up to your pottable water supply.

1805
01:40:12,935 --> 01:40:17,215
Speaker 2: It always has to have the you know, forty five

1806
01:40:17,295 --> 01:40:19,295
Speaker 2: or fifty thousand provision that they want.

1807
01:40:20,295 --> 01:40:22,575
Speaker 13: Yeah, we got lifetile box around us, you know. Yeah,

1808
01:40:22,855 --> 01:40:25,975
Speaker 13: some of the blocks that they get there, they've got

1809
01:40:25,975 --> 01:40:28,775
Speaker 13: to like citivud that was the main one there to have,

1810
01:40:29,255 --> 01:40:31,055
Speaker 13: and they said, oh no, I want forty five.

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01:40:33,015 --> 01:40:35,215
Speaker 2: V Oh that's right. And that's one of those things

1812
01:40:35,255 --> 01:40:37,375
Speaker 2: that you go, okay, so you get two thirties and

1813
01:40:37,415 --> 01:40:39,535
Speaker 2: then you're at sixteen, and then you you've got more

1814
01:40:39,535 --> 01:40:41,775
Speaker 2: water than you need, or you end up with two

1815
01:40:41,815 --> 01:40:44,375
Speaker 2: different sized tanks and so on and so forth. But

1816
01:40:45,455 --> 01:40:50,295
Speaker 2: at this yeah, hey appreciate your conversation and your calls

1817
01:40:50,415 --> 01:40:52,535
Speaker 2: that wraps up the building part of the show. We're

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01:40:52,575 --> 01:40:54,535
Speaker 2: going to take a short break. We've got hood on

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01:40:54,655 --> 01:40:58,135
Speaker 2: a standby. If you've got a gardening or entomological question,

1820
01:40:58,415 --> 01:41:00,535
Speaker 2: you can call us now on eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty. You can text your questions as well. Nine

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