1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. On the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Beds and a play a store. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: US Talk said, be good morning. It is six after five. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Year on news Talk said, be welcome to your Friday morning. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: We're nearly there. Everybody coming up on the show this morning. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Trump's first speech since that assassination attempts it's taking place today. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Should we be worried about all the America First rhetoric 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: that we're hearing from the RNC convention in Milwaukee. Marco 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Rubio's former chief of staff, is with us just before 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: six to break that down. Also this morning, what's more 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: important stopping adults smoking cigarettes or preventing kids from starting 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: to vape? That's the question for you just before six thirty. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: Right now it is seven after five, the agenda. It 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: is Friday, the nineteenth of July. SEEK Job data is 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: out showing the number of job ads dropped by eight 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: percent in June and thirty five percent year on year. 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: Country manager Rob Clark says the fall and job ads 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: is in line with the current economic climate and the 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: growing unemployment rate. 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty widespread, and you know, the Preserve Bank still 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: predicts unemployment to rise. A lot of the consumer and 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: business confidence measures are low. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Ursula Vondalane will serve another five years as President of 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: the European Commission following a vote among members of the 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: European Parliament. Four hundred and one members voted to keep 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: her in the role, forty one more than needed. So 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: you can imagine this is a very emotional and special 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: moment for me. 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 4: Now, I am grateful for. 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: The trust and the confidence of the majority of the 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 5: European Parliament. 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: She's from the center right European People's Party and was 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: first elected in twenty nineteen, so that's still be two 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: terms for her. And interestingly to get her across the line, 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: she needed the Green means the far right doesn't like 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: her to the UK. Now, five climate protesters who blocked 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the major M twenty five motorway for four days have 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: been jailed. Forty five protesters from Just Stop Oil blocked 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: the road in November twenty twenty two, causing major gridlock 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: across southern England. Of the five get this, one was 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: sentenced to five years in prison. The others got four years. 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: That is how you stop a protest. It's eight after five. 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day's early 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Beds and a flying store. 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be you couldn't get a stark contrast 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: between Biden and Trump at the moment, could you. There's 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Biden clenching his first bloodied face, defiant in the face 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: of a bullet. I mean, you want to hear what 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: they're saying at this RNC. Let's call it a rally, 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: because the number of times they shout Usa, USA, I mean, 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how they have the stamina for it. 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: But anyway, you couldn't have a stark contract between Trump, 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: who looks to be strong, and Biden, who is now 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: isolating at his beach house because he's got COVID and 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I just wanted to And also Pelosi's breathing down his 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: neck again. Apparently they had a private call and she's 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: trying to get him off the ticket and trying to 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: convince him to leave, and he's getting angry and saying no. 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: So he's at home at the beach house with his 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: feet up with COVID at the moment. But have a 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: listen to this. This was a new interview that's on YouTube. 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: He was asked a couple of questions which he stumbled on. 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: The first was his answer to a question about when 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Obama tapped him to be his VP. 67 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 6: Listen, I didn't plan him because when I in twenty twenty, 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 6: when broadcasted me vice president, I joined him, which is 69 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 6: a great. 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Honor in twenty twenty, it was actually two thousand and 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: eight that Obama tapped him on the shoulder to be 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: his vice president. He was also asked about Trump's moves 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: to get black voters on board, and this is what 74 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: he said every. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 6: Time every election that I ran and where it was 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: a nine year off here, I got over ninety seven 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 6: of the blackfoot and the number of folks participating didn't 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 6: slow down because it didn't reduce. So look, I you 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 6: know Trump. 80 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: Action, what what is he even saying? So it's not 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: a not a great time for the Democrats at the moment. Interestingly, 82 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 2: we're going to speak to Marco Rubio's chief precator, chief 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: press secretary later in the show, and he said, Marco Rubio, 84 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: that is he tweeted, why is it if you're a 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: Democrat and you don't believe that Trump, sorry, that Biden 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: can be a candidate for president. Why is he fit 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: to even be the president right now? So we're going 88 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: to talk to him about that later on. The Democrats, 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: they tried to have this vote to this procedural vote before 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: the nomination takes place at their convention next month. That 91 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: has failed. So it's the fundraising apparently has stalled because 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: of Biden's performance. So things aren't looking good for the Democrats. 93 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: You'd have to say, the question is when can you 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: actually get rid of it, rid of him if that's 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: what you want to do. The convention is in Chicago, 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: that's midway through next month. If he doesn't stand aside 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: by then it starts to get very very difficult, very 98 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: difficult to change the candidate. And what if he freezes 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: up on camera again? What do you do then then? 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: And you know, then the elections weeks away. It's far 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: too late to change a candidate. Then we'll talk about 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: all of this just before six, right now, eleven after five. 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we are debating vaping, heated tobacco products 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: versus cigarettes. 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: News Talk sai'd be fourteen after five. The government has 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: quietly cut excise tax on heated tobacco products by fifty percent. 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: A spokesperson for the Associate Health Minister, Casey Costello, says 111 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: the move was made to encourage smokers to switch to 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: safer alternatives. However, critics say there is no evidence at 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: will work, saying that they have opened a pathway for 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: youth nicotine addiction. Chris Bollin is with the Health Coalition 115 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Altered Aron is with me this morning. Chris, good morning. 116 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Are these heated tobacco products safer than smoking? 117 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: Well, they probably are a little safer, but we don't 118 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: have a huge amount of independent research information on these products. 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: Most of the data we have on them is from 120 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: tobacco industry commissioned research, so there is a question mark. 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: But to say, I guess the important point is do 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: they work to help people quit smoking? Which seems to 123 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: be what the minister is interested in using them for, 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: and there's absolutely no independent research about that side of 125 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: these products. 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Is there arristic kids will start using them? Is there 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: evidence that kids start using them they have never smoked 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: or vaped before. 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: The kids use one is an interesting one. There's limited evidence, 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: but what we know is that once the price is reduced, 131 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: then new, interesting, novel products to become interesting, more accessible 132 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: to young people who have limited dispos of disposable income. So, 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: considering their price point now, which is quite high, this 134 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: removal of fifty percent of the tax will make them 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: much more affordable. And therefore there is a risk. 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: When you say young people, we don't mean teenagers do 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: because they're not allowed to buy any of this stuffeat well. 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 3: Strictly speaking, they're not allowed to if they are under eighteen, 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: that's correct, but we're talking about eighteen to thirty year olds, 140 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: and that's really a generation that has the opportunity to 141 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: not get involved with nicotine or tobacco dependence and save 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: themselves a lot of misery later in life. 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: Chris, what's more important, because that seems to me you 144 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: can't have your cake and eat it too. What's more 145 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: important stopping adults from smoking cigarettes or preventing kids from 146 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: starting a vape or a heated tobacco product. 147 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's quite as sort of clear 148 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: cut and dichotomis as that the fact is for adults 149 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 3: who are currently smoking, they've got real and present threat 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: their life expectancy. They're risk at having a heart attack 151 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: or cancers is very high, and so it's important that 152 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: we get that almost a quarter of a million New 153 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: Zealanders who are currently still smoking to quit smoking as 154 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: soon as possible. So there is a sense of urgency here. However, 155 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's a sort of there is a risk 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: that with introducing new products that are untested that and 157 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: are supported by a huge marketing effort from the industries 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: behind them, that we will see a large number of 159 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: young people taking up the products who've never smoked. And 160 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: that's been the problem with vping, where you've got a 161 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: good product in the case of vaping that's been tested 162 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: in trials in Charine, they effective, but the regulation has 163 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: not been enforced in the marketing to been free rein 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: So we don't want that to happen with these new products. Chris, 165 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: I think that's a real risk. 166 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate 167 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: it this morning. That's crispull And who's the Health Coalition 168 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: alted our spokesperson, just gone seventeen minutes after five here 169 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: on news Talks, he'd be, I don't know. I think 170 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: if you're if you're a smoker, still a smoker now 171 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: you're paying but somewhere between forty and fifty dollars for 172 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: a pack of twenty cigarettes, if you're still smoking when 173 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: cigarettes are that expensive, and supposedly there's a lower income 174 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: households that are that are still smoking. I mean, how 175 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: do you even do that? How do you even afford that? 176 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: If you're still doing it now, you must be so 177 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: stubborn or addicted that you know, is anything really going 178 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: to change? I don't know. Just got eighteen after five 179 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: here on news Talks. Here be new benefit numbers out, 180 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: will have those few next. 181 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 182 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 183 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Beds and a play at store news Talk set'd be it's. 184 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Gone twenty past five. Text here from Shan says, I 185 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: can remember when vaping first entered the market, the anti 186 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: smoking lobby were dead for it. They said it would 187 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: stop people smoking cigarettes. Now they're turning around and attacking 188 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: that and the heated tobacco products. Right, it is a 189 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: twenty aufter five of us. As I say, the number 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: of people on a benefit has risen to a new 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: record for the June quarter. That's three hundred and eighty 192 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: one thousand people, an increase of twenty nine thousand from 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: the same time last year. And get this, this is 194 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: the job seeker numbers, those are ready for work, one 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen thousand people, up nearly fifteen percent year 196 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: on year. The number of benefit sanctions issued by the 197 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Ministry of Social Development is also up fifty percent on 198 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: the same time last year. Craig Rennie is an economist 199 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: and policy director for the Council of Trade Unions. He's 200 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: with me this morning. Craig, good morning to you. Good morning. 201 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: First of all, what's your reaction to the numbers. I mean, 202 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: it's going to keep going up, the number of people 203 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: on the jobs you could benefit, right, because of the 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: state of the economy. 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, And the number of people on the 206 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 7: topic of benefit is going to keep rising. The Treasury 207 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 7: forecasts that the number of people who were unemployed will 208 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 7: rise by about forty seven thousand since the Discoverment has 209 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 7: taken office, just because of the changing economic background, but 210 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 7: also we had record low unemployment until very recently, and 211 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 7: so it's heading back into more normal territory. 212 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: So is this a necessarily a bad thing? We kind 213 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: of need We kind of need this, don't we in 214 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: some ways to rebalance the economy and get the interest 215 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: rates down. 216 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 7: Unemployment is always a bad thing. The more people who 217 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 7: are in work, there are more households with more money 218 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 7: in their pockets, and poverty falls. People are better off. 219 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 7: Unemployment is never a thing that you're trying to aim. 220 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 7: It's always thing you should be trying to avoid. And 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 7: the best evidence from New Zealand is that the impact 222 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 7: of unemployment is felt far more than the impact of 223 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 7: the cost of living on the households. 224 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: I guess if you're the government, you're looking at you know, 225 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: let's take for example, the public service cuts. You're better off, 226 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: aren't you having people and jobs that don't produce outcomes? 227 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: You're better off having them on a benefit. You know, 228 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: what's the point in having somebody in a job if 229 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: there's no good outcome in terms of public service delivery, 230 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: just for the sake of it. 231 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 7: That may be too, but we don't have any evidence 232 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 7: that those workers who are sitting there dost being fucked 233 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 7: weren't actually delivering anything. We have quite the opposite. We 234 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: have lots of evidence that those who are losing their 235 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 7: jobs were doing front lane, often front lane work in 236 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: New Zealand, and there are actually many of the people 237 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 7: we need to have in the country. We're losing skills 238 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: rapidly to offseas, precisely because we're cutting jobs in some 239 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 7: of these areas, and we're going to make it much 240 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 7: more difficult to deliver the claims of public services we 241 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 7: want to see in New Zealand if we lose many 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: of these people. So there's no evidence to support the 243 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 7: allegation at least that the people aren't doing anything. There 244 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 7: aren't contributing anything to New Zealand. 245 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: Craig the sanctions on particularly those under twenty five. A 246 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: lot of who are about this yesterday, people saying it's terrible, 247 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, particularly for the under twenty five. Isn't it 248 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: important that they have clear expectations and consequences if they 249 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: don't meet them. 250 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: It's very important that there's clear expectations and that there's 251 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 7: expectations work both ways. That people are very clear as 252 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 7: to what they should be able to access, how they 253 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 7: should be able to get support, but there's also very 254 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 7: clear that there use that there are rules that people 255 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 7: have to obade by. But when we look at the data, 256 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 7: there does seem to have been a really big shift 257 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 7: in the number of assumptions that have been delivered, particularly 258 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 7: in this last quarter, and ext questions of what's different 259 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 7: now with what was happening three months ago. 260 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: Craig, thanks very much for your time. That's Craig Rennie 261 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: who's with the Council of Trade Unions. Just gone twenty 262 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: four minutes after five. We're back in just a second 263 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: talking about school attendance. 264 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: Separating the fact from the section Kids Billy edition with 265 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and Appliant Store News 266 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: Talk z'd. 267 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: Be twenty six after five. More than a quarter of 268 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: students skipped school the friday before King's Birthday weekend. More 269 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: than a quarter of our kids didn't show up to 270 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: class because they wanted a four day weekend. The question 271 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: is were they wagging or did Mum and Dad take 272 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: them on holiday wee weekend batch or a few days fishing. 273 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Perhaps when I was at school, Mum would never have 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: allowed us to take a day off school for anything. 275 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Really other than sickness, and only if it was serious. 276 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: We definitely weren't taken out of school for a holiday. 277 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: So why are parents allowing this to happen? Do you 278 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: think surely as a mum or a dad, as a parent, 279 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: a caregiver, you want the best for your kids, and 280 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: the evidence shows the more that at school learning, the 281 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: better off they'll be. The government is celebrating a slight 282 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: uptick in school attendance at the moment. The Ministry of 283 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: Education figures shows fifty three point one percent of students 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: attended regularly at school for term two. That's compared to 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: forty seven percent during the same time last year. So 286 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: a slight uptick, and I mean you've got to take 287 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: the wins where you can get them right. Other data 288 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: appears to show that term time trips to Fiji, for example, 289 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: are becoming a thing of the past. This is Flight 290 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: Center data showing that travel during the school term has 291 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: dropped thirty percent and they are going in the holidays 292 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: instead when it's more expensive. I suppose the question for 293 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Seymour et l. Is whether the kids who are skipping 294 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: school because mum and dad want to take them skiing 295 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: would have ended up ram rating a dairy for example. 296 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: Because Seymour's argument is that if you're out of school, 297 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: you'll be committing crime. That you know, today's truancy crisis 298 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: is tomorrow's crime crisis. The question is whether that is 299 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: the case, or whether kids either wagging or skipping school 300 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: because their parents don't care is the bigger problem. It's 301 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: just gone twenty eight minutes after five. 302 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 8: Ryan Bridge. 303 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: Now there's a very bizarre story out of Italy, the 304 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: Italian journalist who's been ordered to pay five thousand euros 305 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: and damages because he did a Twitter post about the 306 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: prime minister, the Italian Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney. He put 307 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: a picture up where he'd photoshopped her next to Mussolini, 308 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: the dictator, and I would have thought that is what 309 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: she would have been sewing for. But no, Actually the 310 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: reason that he got the fine is because he referred 311 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: to her as a little woman. He said, quote, you 312 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: don't scare me, you little woman. You're only four foot tall. 313 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: I can't even see you. And the court decided, actually, no, 314 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: we're okay with the Mussolini photoshop, but we're not okay 315 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: with what they called body shaming. So there you go. 316 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: He's been ordered to pay five thousand euros nine thousand 317 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: New Zealand dollars as a result of that, this journalist, 318 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: and she says is going to donate it to charity, 319 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: which is very nice of her. Yeah, according to various 320 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: Italian news outlets, she's actually one point sixty three meters 321 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: tool or five foot three. So I guess on that 322 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: basis it is defamation, you know. He he's making things up 323 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: about her height. Twenty nine minutes after five, News is 324 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: next and we are live to the Republican National Convention. 325 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: Just before six. 326 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty 327 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 328 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: furniture bids and a player store News talk zid be. 329 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: Good more. I twenty four away from six on news talks. 330 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: He'd be lots of text coming in about education. I 331 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: sort of asked a question, why would you allow your 332 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: kid to take a quarter of all kids attending school 333 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: took the friday off before the long weekend, the King's 334 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: Birthday weekend? And I said, why would you do that? 335 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you rather your kids at school? Andy says the 336 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: key is the statement in school learning every parent and 337 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: kid knows these days that half the time spent at 338 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: school is doing bugger all. But that's the polite way 339 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: of putting it. And between all of the teachers only days, 340 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: the teacher development days, the union meetings, the kids are 341 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: at school more than the staff anyway, Andy, thanks for 342 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: your text. Another from one of our listeners, his morning, Ryan, 343 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: do you think the reason for people taking the Friday 344 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: off is because they've lost confidence in the schooling system altogether? 345 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: It's a very valid point. Twenty three minutes away from 346 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: six now. Yesterday the Republican National Convention. JD Vance was 347 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: obviously the headline act Trump's running mate, but actually I 348 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: thought the real star of the show was Kai Trump. 349 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: This is Donald Trump's seventeen year old granddaughter. She did 350 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: an address to the crowd which was very well received, 351 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: and apparently he's doing quite well on TikTok. And she 352 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: spoke about as she calls him Grandpa, spoke about Grandpa 353 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: calling her at school to talk about his golf game. 354 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 9: We played golf together. If I'm nine, as tim, he'll 355 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 9: try again. Inside of my head, I know, and he's 356 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 9: always surprised. I don't let him get to me. But 357 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 9: I have to remind him I'm a Trump two. 358 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: So let me go away from six. On news Talk ZEVB, 359 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: We're going to Emily Ansel, who's in Dunedin. Now, EMI controversy, controversy, 360 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 2: I should say, over the McDonald's Golden Arches and Wanica. 361 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 8: Yeah. 362 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 10: The first public submissions to the Queenstown Lakes District Council 363 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 10: show the majority opposed granting consent for the restaurant to 364 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 10: open in the tourist town. Concerns include food waste pou 365 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 10: and local outlets losing business. Although Auckland University planning expert 366 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 10: Bell McKay says there's no mandate for submissions to influence 367 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 10: counsel's decision, he says it's likely it will be approved, 368 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 10: but with conditions like reducing hours or signage or altering 369 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 10: the color scheme. 370 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: Weather today Emily morning, low. 371 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 10: Cloud or fog, then fine with increasing high cloud northeasterlyes 372 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 10: with a high of eleven. 373 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. It's got to clear sherwood in christ Church. Clear. 374 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe that it's actually already been a year 375 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: since the disappearance of Yan Fayebao. 376 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 11: Yes, Ryan, we can't believe it either. A search, of course, 377 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 11: was sparked at twelve months ago today for the forty 378 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 11: four year old after she failed to pick up her 379 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 11: young daughter from after school care ting. Junkow will stand 380 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 11: trial for yan Feyboo's murder in October, although no body 381 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 11: has been found. Last year's search teams had focused around 382 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 11: the Horswell River as well as Lake Alismere. Detective Inspector 383 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 11: Nikola Reeves is confirming that they're still looking. In a 384 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 11: recent search effort which saw them return to the Green 385 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 11: Park area that's near Lake Alismere, Reeve says they still 386 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 11: haven't found some items that formed part of a public 387 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 11: appeal last year, including clothing and fase, handbag contents and 388 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 11: a shovel. 389 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: Such a mystery, isn't it there? Weather today clear, low. 390 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 11: Cloud and patch night was a real clear to find 391 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 11: this afternoon before a few spots of rain again later 392 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 11: northeasterlies are high of twelve and six overnight. 393 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Thank you Azaria House and Wellington. The art gallery in 394 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: the Capital that might have to close. 395 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, so it's actually facing a lifeline. So the Capital 396 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 12: City Gallery was forced to close last month until twenty 397 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 12: twenty six, So quite a decent chunk of time due 398 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 12: to disruptive construction in Civic Square. The Civic administration buildings 399 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 12: being demolished by the Council in some streets are closed 400 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 12: to traffic. A big crane also up their development of 401 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 12: a new building will take place once the demolition's done. 402 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 12: The council seeking to restore the civic heart of the city, 403 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 12: as it says other businesses near the site have previously 404 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 12: been considering taking legal action against the Wellington City Council, 405 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 12: suggesting the development is driving people out of the area. 406 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 12: Now City Gallery has announced its partnering with the National 407 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 12: Library to display some of its exhibitions while it is 408 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 12: out of action as that construction work goes on. Experience 409 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 12: Wellington's Diana Marsh says it's an exciting opportunity that allows 410 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 12: the galleries work to continue. 411 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, thank you for that weather today. 412 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, it appears Auckland's fog has made its way to Wellington. 413 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 12: Quite a foggy morning today. Today's weather fine apart from 414 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 12: areas of morning fog, low cloud becoming mostly cloudy with 415 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 12: the odd evening shower high of fifteen today. 416 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Never regymind is with us in Auckland. 417 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: So that's where our FOG's gone. Good, well, last fog 418 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 5: here in Auckland. 419 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: This is fog watch with meither last night? Did you 420 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: there was foggy time the afternoon. I've never seen fog in. 421 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: The afternoon, I must admit. 422 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: On the met Service, you know, they did say, you know, 423 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 5: the fog, it will dissipate at midday. 424 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: And then it's going to roll back in the evening. 425 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: And I was reading it, I thought, oh, yeah, sure, right, 426 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 5: and I was at home, had the windows open and everything. 427 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: I thought, there's that fog they were talking about rolling 428 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 4: in next minute. That's right. Hey, you've got a serious 429 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: question for you. 430 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 7: Now. 431 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 5: I am going to my first ninetieth birthday. Oh I've 432 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 5: been invited Kent. 433 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: It's cool, and it's it's not. 434 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: Someone that I'm related to, because I don't know anyone 435 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: who's lived to that ripe old age. So it's a 436 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 5: friend's auntie. 437 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 4: But what do you take? What like a present? 438 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: I was thinking, I don't want to get flowers. It's 439 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 5: kind of like an experience. And I thought, if I 440 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: live to be ninety, what do I want? 441 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: What would I like to know? Some fudge or something. 442 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 5: Oh, fudge. 443 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: I was thinking like a bungee jump or a you know, 444 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: like go out. 445 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: You know what would you want to be doing that? 446 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: You'd want them to make ninety one? 447 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 8: You correct me? 448 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 9: Up? 449 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: Hey speaking, Do you know what I was laughing yesterday 450 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: watching that RNC convention? Oh? Yes, And did you see 451 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: that all of Trump's supporters had air patches on? 452 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 453 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 8: Did that? 454 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: And support? 455 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I wish i'd seen that. 456 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: I did look at it Siday, but I did wonder also, 457 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: I wonder what Biden's lot will wear to be in 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: support of him. Would they wear diapers? They might? 459 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: Were watching? 460 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: What's the weather like Todaynoka, Well the weather is I 461 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 5: said earlier, no folk, So we've got isolated showers turning 462 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: to rain, late morning heavy falls possible. It was actually 463 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: going to be raining all weekend. Temperatures a little bit 464 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: warmer for US. Sixteen is the high today. 465 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: Brilliant, Never enjoy that ninetieth birthday party. 466 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 4: I shall report back on Monday. 467 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: Brilliant seventeen away from six here on news Talk, said 468 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: b And we are live to just before six o'clock. 469 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: We're live to the convention that we've been talking about. 470 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: Donald Trump due to give his keynote address. 471 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Today International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of 472 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: mind for News Island business. 473 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: In just a few moments of the lied to met Tyrrel, 474 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: who's Marco Rubio's former chief of staff, and that's state 475 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Florida Senator. Right now though, we're going to Vincent McVinnie, 476 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: who is our UK and Europe correspondent. The European political 477 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: community has met, including President Zelinski. 478 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 13: Good morning, Ryan, Yes, that is right. So this is 479 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 13: a new invention actually of French President Emmanuel Macron, and 480 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 13: it's meant to try and unite Europe in the wake 481 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 13: of the Ukraine War beyond just the nations that are 482 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 13: in the EU and NATO. So for instance, why the UK, 483 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 13: which is no longer in the EU, plays a part 484 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 13: in it. It was held today at Blenham Palace, the 485 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 13: birthplace of Winston Churchill, and dozens of European leaders got 486 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 13: together to discuss the challenges facing the continent. Now, this 487 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 13: was a big opportunity for our new Prime Minister, so 488 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 13: Keas Starmer, to try and reset the relationship with Europe. 489 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 13: It was a bit of a gift actually him having 490 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 13: the election and then this meeting just two weeks later 491 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 13: by former Prime Minister Richie sunek so so Kios star 492 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 13: has been meeting all his fellow European leaders. He said 493 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 13: that he wants to reset in relations with the European Union. 494 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 13: He's not saying that the UK is going to rejoin 495 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 13: or he wants us to rejoin any time soon, but 496 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 13: he thinks that a better deal could be struck, particularly 497 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 13: on a key issue facing all nations in Europe now, 498 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 13: and that is a legal migration. He wants countries to 499 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 13: work closer, more cooperation on smashing gangs which are involved 500 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 13: in human trafficking, and particularly a better deal with the 501 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 13: French because of the passage through the channel, with the 502 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 13: UK currently paying millions to the French to try and 503 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 13: stop that, but the numbers growing every single year. He's 504 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 13: admitted to Keir Starmer that it's a hard challenge, but 505 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 13: he's trying to lead by from the front by announcing 506 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 13: about eighty four million pounds worth of UK aid to 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 13: fund projects in Africa and the Middle East to try 508 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 13: and stop the illegal migration at its source and from 509 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 13: people traveling up to Europe. 510 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: Vincent, thank you for that. That's Vincent mcavinny, our UK 511 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: and europe correspondent A twelve away from six. That's It's 512 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: the last day of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, 513 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: Wisconsin today and the Republican nominee, Donald Trump will take 514 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: to the stage to accept the party's nomination. It'll also 515 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: be his first speaking gig, his first speaking event since 516 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: he was shot in an assassination attempt just over a 517 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: week ago. The managing partner of Firehouse Strategies and Marco 518 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 2: Rubio's former chief of staff, Matt Terrell, is with us. Matt, 519 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: thank you for being on the program. What are you 520 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: expecting from Trump's speech today? 521 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 8: I great to be with you. In terms of the 522 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 8: speech todight, you know, look, I think the tone of 523 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 8: that speech will be one that's going to be talking 524 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 8: about unity. I think it's be a big theme that 525 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 8: we've seen, of course throughout this convention. I think will 526 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 8: be a big theme it's tonight's speech, and not just 527 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 8: unity for the Republican Party, but unity for the country. 528 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 8: And certainly I think you'll touch on the key issues 529 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 8: that American stationwide are focused in on this election, including 530 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 8: the can and the inflation, immigration and crime, among other issues. 531 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 8: Of course, but those will be the core issues you'll 532 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 8: likely narrow in on during this speech as well. So 533 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 8: we'll see what he does tonight during the speech, but 534 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 8: I think that's a part of what we'll see in 535 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 8: the speech this evening. 536 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: Do you think he'll talk about Biden much? Do you 537 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: think he'll talk about the facties at home, you know, 538 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: on the bag chest with COVID. 539 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 8: Well, certainly, elections are a referendum on the company and office, 540 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 8: and right now the company is as we he President 541 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 8: Joe Biden. And look, I think a big part of 542 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 8: this speech is going to be drawing contrast not just 543 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 8: between former President Trump and President Biden, but former President 544 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 8: Trump and Democratic policies. You know, given that there have 545 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 8: been reports and we're hearing for the reports coming out 546 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 8: this week about discussions around President Biden's candidacy and who 547 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 8: the Democrat nominee will or will not be for president. 548 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 8: Leave that to the Democrat Party to discuss. But you know, 549 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 8: the bottom line is, I think this speech is just 550 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 8: going to be focused on President Biden, but also the 551 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: Vice president, and then obviously on Democrat policies as well, 552 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 8: trying those contrasts that can be some PLC as well. 553 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of that policy. A lot of the talk 554 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: obviously is about America first, you know, protectionism, less king 555 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: on free trade deals, particularly if they result in job losses. 556 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: In Russbecket's rough spelt states, what what's how worried should 557 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: a small trading nation like New Zealand be about this 558 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: America first strategy? Is it? Is it going to have 559 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: a big impact on the rest of us? Do you think? 560 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 8: Well? Look, i' let four person Trump speak for himself 561 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 8: in terms of his policies, whether it's on domestic or 562 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 8: international issues. I can just tell you, you know, I 563 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 8: think many Americans will look at what he did over 564 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 8: the past four years or excuse me, the four years that 565 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 8: he was president and essentially say, look, you know, did 566 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 8: did they like those four years of the four president 567 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 8: Trump era, whether it's on trade or other issues, or 568 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 8: do they not like it? And they're going to compare 569 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 8: a trast that record to present Biden's four years in office. 570 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 8: So I think, you know, as voters unpack that, you know, 571 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 8: I think they're going to look at, you know, how 572 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 8: they feel about it and say, you know, as we 573 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: go over the next four years into the future, you 574 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 8: know now what's in the best interest of the United States, 575 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 8: and ultimately, obviously we live in a global society here. 576 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 8: You know, what's good for the United States often is 577 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 8: good in terms of international dynamics and making sure we 578 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 8: have good partnerships around the world as well. So look, 579 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 8: all of four, President Trump dive into his policies and 580 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 8: it takes shape your particulars. I think you'll see in 581 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 8: this speech tonight. But certainly that's what that Nurkas are 582 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 8: focused on in particularly relates to our economy. You know, 583 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 8: the economy, inflation. Those are vital issues right now, top 584 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 8: tier issues that voters are focused in on here. 585 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: All right, Matt thinks very much for your time. That's 586 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: Matt Tyrell, Marco Rubio's former chief of staff, with US 587 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: live from these states this morning, just gone nine away 588 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: from six o'clock. We're going to talk to Mike Hoskin next. Interestingly, 589 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: the if your vice president, you cannot live in the 590 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: same state as the president. You can't have two people 591 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: living in the same state on the same ticket, which 592 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: some people thought might be why Marco Rubio didn't get 593 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: didn't get the nomination. I don't think that that's why 594 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: he didn't get the nomination. It has just gone eight 595 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: away from Sex. Back at a Second. 596 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 597 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Bids and 598 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: a playing store. 599 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be sex Away from Sex. Mike hostings 600 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: with us next. Watching that RNC the convention. They're like 601 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: a royal family over there, now, aren't they? The Trumps? 602 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 14: And it's moazing to watch. I thought yesterday the start 603 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 14: the whole week I found I don't know how many 604 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 14: hours I've watched, but most of them, but just to 605 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 14: watch the Kai Trump, who's the daughter of Donald Jor, 606 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 14: I thought she was magnificent. Just forget all the politics 607 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 14: for a moment, and you know, whether you'd ever vote 608 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 14: for them or like them or whatever the case may be, 609 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 14: I thought she was spectacular. And if you're looking for images, 610 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 14: there was some beautiful pictures yesterday. He had his grandkids there, 611 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 14: at least half a dozen of them as far as 612 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 14: I could count, And. 613 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: He looked normal. 614 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 14: He looked like, you know, he had his arm around 615 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 14: one of them and they were hugging him and stuff. 616 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 14: If you're running that and looking to put pictures out 617 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 14: to the world that sort of portrayed this bloke as 618 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 14: being normal and you know, someone you can relate to, 619 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 14: you can't go wrong. 620 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: And JD. 621 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 14: Varance yesterday I thought he's no orator. 622 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: No, he wasn't an orrator. 623 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 14: Bit flat, but he told he told a good story 624 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 14: because he's got to get he's got the story. He's 625 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 14: got a good story to tell. So, I mean, so 626 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 14: the week's been fascinating. The big big thing this morning 627 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 14: is I think Bline's going to go by the weekend. 628 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 14: The reporters he's out and Obama's talked to him now, 629 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 14: Schumer and Pelosi talked to him yesterday, and that's where 630 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 14: these comments. He's more receptive to going now apparently. But 631 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 14: if you look at him get up the steps to 632 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 14: the plane yesterday. 633 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: It was it was pathetic. And how can you, I 634 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: mean imagine if he had another one of those brain fades, 635 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: you know two weeks out from there. 636 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 14: Well you played that clipse those interviews that he's pre recorded. 637 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 14: He goes out to prove he's sharp and does the 638 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 14: opposite in the week that Trump did what Trump has done. 639 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 14: I mean, you can't you can't write this stuff. I mean, 640 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 14: it's been really fit. Once again, even if you don't 641 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 14: follow this, it's been the extraordinary week and affixed us all. 642 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 14: Say what you want about American politics and Trump and 643 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 14: presidential elections, it affects each and every one of us 644 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 14: because America's the most powerful country in the world. 645 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: In the prison and especially the number of times they 646 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: said America first at that convention, which which is probably 647 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: the best the best impact. 648 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 14: There's sort of the yeah, I mean, ultimately, it's not good. 649 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 14: I mean, it's not good for Ukraine, it's not good 650 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 14: for China, it's not good for us. I mean, they're 651 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 14: all isolationists essentially, So if you want to extrapolate it 652 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 14: out to that, and in that sense, that'll be a story. 653 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 14: But if you look at it this even people like 654 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 14: if you watch CNN, even people like John King, who's 655 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 14: I think a very very you know, down the middle commentator, 656 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 14: he said, if this election was held tomorrow, they would 657 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 14: romp home in a way that you haven't seen, which 658 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 14: is why Schumer and Pelosi are. 659 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: So desperate to get Trump. 660 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 14: But if that happens this weekend and you're presented with 661 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 14: Kamela Harris, you've got to ask the question, has anything 662 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 14: really changed and that's their problem. 663 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: Good. 664 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: Like everybody, Mike hosting with you next here on News Talks, 665 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: you'd be thank you for being with me this week 666 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: and this morning. Really appreciate it. I'll be back on Monday. 667 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend labor or hanging out the Passenger. 668 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Or for more from News Talks ed b listen live 669 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: on air or online, and keep our shows with you 670 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio