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Speaker 1: And two France, we go Catherine, very good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Good morning Mike, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: And a happy new year to you. Now Germany, I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming Schultz has gone Musks in play, the afdre in play.

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Speaker 1: Is he broadly every time he talks about it publicly

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Speaker 1: having an effect or not.

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Speaker 2: It would seem there are concerns that he has have

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Speaker 2: had an effect. I mean, just over the weekend, even

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Speaker 2: though we saw those huge rallies thirty five thousand people

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Speaker 2: in Berlin rallying against Musk getting involved in the elections,

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Speaker 2: also rallies and Cologne. At the same time, we then

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Speaker 2: saw Musk being live streamed into an AfD far right

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Speaker 2: rally campaign headquarters opening in the eastern German city of Halla.

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Speaker 2: So it looks as though he could be having an effect.

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Speaker 2: And they think that effect comes from the fact that

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Speaker 2: a lot of what he's doing gets rebroadcast on his

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Speaker 2: social media network, which of course has a far greater

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Speaker 2: reach than any of the German tea in radio stations

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Speaker 2: and of course the newspapers. So when we look at

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Speaker 2: the sort of effect he might be having, I think

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Speaker 2: what it could be like over the weekend, the leader

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Speaker 2: of the Center right CDU in Germany, which has looks

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Speaker 2: as though it will get the major share or the

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Speaker 2: largest share of the vote next month's elections. He actually

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Speaker 2: said that he was prepared to accept far right support

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Speaker 2: as part of a campaign that he wants to put

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Speaker 2: in place to corrack down our migrants. Now this has

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Speaker 2: really got if I'm worried, because there had been the

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Speaker 2: sort of firewall accord on Sunitaire. If you like that,

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Speaker 2: there'll be no acceptance of any far right votes to

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Speaker 2: pass legislation and parliament. But Mantt's head of the CDU says, look,

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Speaker 2: the Electric electorate really wants some sort of new policy,

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Speaker 2: new laws on migration, and he said that the Electric

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Speaker 2: would be happy if he did this.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's sort of answer Money's question, because

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Speaker 1: you look at the Lopeine scenario in your country and

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Speaker 1: you know it's all very well to do well in

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Speaker 1: an election, but if no one will to work with you,

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Speaker 1: then Holland was another example, of course, so it's possible

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Speaker 1: that the AfD are going to have some real influence.

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Speaker 2: Your suggested, well, let's see you again. Germany is one

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Speaker 2: of these countries where coalitions are all built and discussed

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Speaker 2: and we might not have a government in Germany until May,

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Speaker 2: but certainly they do seem to be doing well at

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Speaker 2: the moment there is scheduled to get what twenty percent

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Speaker 2: of the vote. Even if they don't get the numbers

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Speaker 2: in parliament, they will be a force that has to

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Speaker 2: be listened to because they just seem to have tapped

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Speaker 2: into that stream of consciousness about mixing up the economy,

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Speaker 2: the economic downturn and the cost of the country of

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Speaker 2: looking after all these migrants that have been coming into

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 1: Now, I was mentioning Darbos a moment ago, so Trump

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Speaker 1: speaking and watching Trump last week speak to the people

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Speaker 1: at Darbos. He's talking about NATO as well, two percent

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Speaker 1: versus five percent and people paying their way and come

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Speaker 1: and build in America. And if you want to build,

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Speaker 1: will give you the lowest taxes. If you don't, will

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Speaker 1: terrify you to death. What are you makable?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's two obviously very different strengths of thought going

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Speaker 2: on in Europe. On the one something age you've got

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Speaker 2: that chart and stick approach, Mike, You've got people like

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Speaker 2: the French Prime Minister Panswa Bayu saying watch out. The

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Speaker 2: US is now going for sort of power and domination

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Speaker 2: along the lines that Russia and China have been going

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Speaker 2: on talking about how America is using this monetary offensive

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Speaker 2: to really take over parts of European economy and to

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Speaker 2: force changes in the way that Europe does business. So

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Speaker 2: we're also seeing at the same time the sort of

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Speaker 2: the good cop where we've seen the EU vanderline saying

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Speaker 2: that the EU should be ready to engage with Trump,

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Speaker 2: should seek common interest, be ready to negotiate, but protect

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Speaker 2: Europe's interests. So I think at the moment where they're

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Speaker 2: all feeling around trying to play good cop, bad cop

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Speaker 2: and not sure where it's all going to end up.

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Speaker 1: All right, quick word on NIS. So there are another

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Speaker 1: one after Venus, of course, So we've got the cruise ships.

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Speaker 1: Is there a general what's the vibe on cruise ships?

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Speaker 1: You know, one hand, we in this country love them

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Speaker 1: because there are half billion dollar industry, but then we

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Speaker 1: hate them because they're environmental problems. And of course you've

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Speaker 1: got places like Venison. Now, Niece, Well, what.

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Speaker 2: The Mayor of News has said is from this year on,

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Speaker 2: only these smaller ships will be alloweder and that's any

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Speaker 2: of those under one hundred and ninety meters long, and

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Speaker 2: those less than nine hundred passengers. What he really wants, Mike,

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Speaker 2: are these smaller ultra luxury ships, the ones that come

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Speaker 2: in and really spend money. When you look at the figures,

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Speaker 2: cruise ship passengers say, for example, when they come ashore

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Speaker 2: in Marseille, they spend around one hundred and five New

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Speaker 2: Zealand dollars a day. Non cruise ship passengers spend around

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty New Zealand dollars a day. So

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Speaker 2: what they're saying is, listen, the people who are on

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Speaker 2: cruise ships, they go back to the ship to have dinner,

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Speaker 2: to have their drinks because they're in an all inclusive package.

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Speaker 2: Whereas if you don't come on a cruise ship, if

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Speaker 2: you'd Rock Harph stayed at a hotel, you go to a

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Speaker 2: local restaurant, then you're actually going to be putting money

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Speaker 2: into the local economy.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. I've missed the sound of you, Voyce Catherine

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Speaker 1: will catch up again next Tuesday. Precid very much kept

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