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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB The Big Issues on and after

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Speaker 1: Fields Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends four with

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Speaker 1: Jason Fine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's first trusted home builder,

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Speaker 1: News Talks ABB.

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Speaker 2: One on the Dot.

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Speaker 3: The All Whites are into the OFC Nations Cup Final.

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Speaker 3: They'll play hosts Vanuatu and Port Villa four o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Timers kickoff. Striker Ben Wayne is New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: top scorer at the tournament with four Kacachi Wonderful has

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Speaker 3: broken clear since the cross New Zealand four.

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Speaker 2: Nil Ben Wain second brace for him in this tournament,

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Speaker 2: Ben Way. Ben Waine's with us out of Vanawa too.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, Ben.

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Speaker 3: It all seems to have gone to plan really, three

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Speaker 3: nil and four nil wins and Paul Player five nil

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Speaker 3: win in the semi final, comfortably into the finals. So

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Speaker 3: how do you assess the way the team's been playing

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Speaker 3: tournament so far?

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Speaker 4: I think the best way to describe would be professional.

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Speaker 4: It's never easy to come over here. I mean I

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Speaker 4: think probably teams up so people do assume that it's

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Speaker 4: going to be a walk in the park, but it

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Speaker 4: is never the case that, you know, the Island teams

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Speaker 4: put up a really good fight and they have been

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Speaker 4: tough games. I think we've just been We've been clinical

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Speaker 5: So that's been really really important.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's taking the lead inside ten minutes in each

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Speaker 3: of the three games. How important has that been to

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Speaker 3: kind of settle any possible nerves and to get off

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is really important. I mean whether

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Speaker 4: but I don't think it matters. We're a good enough

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Speaker 4: team to deal with that without scoring in the first

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Speaker 4: ten minutes. But to do that is I think it

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Speaker 4: just lets the team get into a rhythm early on.

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Speaker 4: And you might, yeah, I might say it takes a

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Speaker 4: little bit of away off everyone's shoulders, but I mean

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Speaker 4: to still put three four five aways. I think it's

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Speaker 3: What's it like in terms of conditions being hot and

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Speaker 3: what are the pitch looks like con TV? But it's

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Speaker 3: always hard to tell what are conditions.

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Speaker 4: Like very hot and very humored. To be fair against

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Speaker 4: the Heiti there's a bit of rain and that was

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Speaker 4: just blessing in disguise. That was helped a lot. The pictures. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a little bit bobby, but better than I thought

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Speaker 4: it would be. But I mean, by the end of

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Speaker 4: it could be a little bit a little bit questionable,

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Speaker 4: but that's something we just deal with and there won't

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Speaker 2: Personally for you.

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Speaker 3: You're a striker, your currency or you know, big party

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Speaker 3: to get four of them in your two games at

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's been amazing. I've honestly in general just missed

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Speaker 4: at the end of the days, it's just good that

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Speaker 4: we're in the final. That's what we're here to do.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about coming together as a team. You all

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Speaker 3: and you have a pretty limited build up to tournaments

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Speaker 4: It's pretty easy with boys i've played with, you know,

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Speaker 5: Back to playing with them.

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Speaker 4: But I mean it's awesome to meet new people as

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Speaker 3: So Van to are your opponents in the in the final?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I didn't know what to expect from that game.

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Speaker 4: US will be awesome. There's going to be a I

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Speaker 3: Obviously, second game against them, How do you put any

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's the same same in any other tournament.

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Speaker 4: Just I mean you can take confidence from that, don't

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Speaker 5: Be right right on us and know we'll be ready

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Speaker 3: As you're together in a in a situation like this,

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six World Cup.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be silly not to say that

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Speaker 4: And I know that's in the future and we still

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: There's a there's definitely a plan in place with that

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Speaker 3: Is there an internal optimism that you know that that

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Speaker 4: Of years, one hundred percent. One hundred percent. No, I

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Speaker 5: You know, when that time comes, and.

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Speaker 3: Again, I know we're only focusing on this tournament, but

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Speaker 3: less than a month. Rather, the squad's named on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's any secret to anybody that you'll

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Speaker 4: I mean, to be able to go to Paris and

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Speaker 4: I think my first one that was a bit of

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Speaker 4: I didn't feel like a proper Olympics and I think

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Speaker 3: Look forward to that squad being announced on Tuesday. Plumouthard

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Speaker 3: Goals your club now, of course you've been there a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've loved it. Don't get me wrong, it's

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Speaker 4: I was, I was in League One for six months

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: And he got a new boss, Wayne Rooney. How much

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Speaker 3: you're looking forward to coming under his God, it's when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't believe it, and I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: Definitely high up on the England ranks.

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Speaker 4: He might just be behind Harry Kane now, but just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it'll be something that as a fellow striker,

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Speaker 4: I definitely think there's been a massive, like growing period

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Speaker 5: It's different.

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Speaker 4: There's a higher level intensity, you know, there's more physicality.

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Speaker 4: It takes time to adjust and I think even to

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Speaker 5: Get right to the level.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I'm really happy with where I am

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Speaker 4: at now. Mentally, I'm definitely become stronger when you have

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Speaker 4: I've deffinitely, I've definitely matured a bit.

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Speaker 3: Did you get the chance to get home in between

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend came back for three weeks and

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Heix your Phoenix boys did? Okay? Did you get

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Speaker 5: So I definitely watched. I mean some of the games

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Speaker 5: And I managed to watch them.

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Speaker 4: And to see how well they had done was awesome

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of finals, you've got one to look forward to

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Speaker 3: in the OFC Nations Cup. All the best against against

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Speaker 3: Vanuatu in the final. Ben, look forward to to seeing

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Speaker 3: if Paris is your next destination on how you go

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Speaker 3: under Wayne Rooney's guidance in the in the month ahead.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat mate.

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Speaker 5: Oh cheers, pony, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Now, thanks for joining us, Ben, Ben Wayne.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne Rooney's this new boss. It's there. I'm not

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have a great track record as a manager,

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Speaker 3: old time great strikers of modern times. So for Ben Wayne,

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Speaker 3: without fear of contradiction, that he'll be in the Olympic squad.

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Speaker 3: That's a squad of under twenty three players. Of course,

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Speaker 3: that's when they'll announce the squad, the eighteen strong squad

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Speaker 3: That's just a normal senior side, So both of those

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Speaker 3: James great interview with Hayden. We take special interest in

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Speaker 3: this fine young man due to his connection to or Corney,

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Speaker 3: seending this message from the house that Andrew Wild grew

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Speaker 3: up in, which we now own and live in. Thanks James,

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Speaker 3: brilliant stuff. Yeah, Hayden Wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, terrific, terrific, terrific. Keiwek great human being, Looking forward

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