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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with A, Veda Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 2: B Dawning and welcome to Danikolo Willison her first super

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Speaker 2: fund withdrawal in its role in solving the retirement bill

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Speaker 2: for the country, the country's biggest inland port billions on

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Speaker 2: you infrastructure You want to know about that? The netball

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Speaker 2: Jinny Politics wins. They of course after rate Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: Steve Price, they offered gold standard material as well. Past

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Speaker 2: get right A here we go, Middle of the week,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. Dare I suggest it has been a

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Speaker 2: while since we've had a debate of such potential. This

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Speaker 2: is the pay equity law. It's now done, of course,

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Speaker 2: So the debate around it is not about whether it

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Speaker 2: should or shouldn't go ahead, because it already has. So

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Speaker 2: the debate about whether or not those against it can

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Speaker 2: now muster enough energy and noise to try and cause

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Speaker 2: enough pain to a government that may or may not

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Speaker 2: be aware enough or able enough to respond. That's the

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Speaker 2: key here, my guess, and there's already a very long

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Speaker 2: line of those saying this is trouble for the government

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Speaker 2: and it will bite them. But my guess is it

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Speaker 2: actually won't. And it won't not because it isn't a

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Speaker 2: political risk, because it is, not because they got it

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Speaker 2: out of the way fast under urgency, because they did,

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Speaker 2: but because it's become increasingly obvious to more and more

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Speaker 2: of us that this country is on its knees and

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Speaker 2: unless something pretty drastic is done and fast, we are

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Speaker 2: in very, very serious fiscal trouble. There is actually the

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Speaker 2: more important argument or out equity, that it's been hijacked

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Speaker 2: by the unions, and now it's used as a sledgehammer

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Speaker 2: for random and mass numbers of large pay increases for

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Speaker 2: union based jobs that really have nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: women or men. But I suspect that aspect of it

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Speaker 2: is a little bit nuanced for many, and made more

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Speaker 2: complicated by the fact those who hate what has happened

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Speaker 2: here continued to deliberately muddy the waters with a motive

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Speaker 2: language like paying people what they're worth and women getting

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Speaker 2: paid less with the same job, which of course is

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Speaker 2: separate and not remotely true. The hope the government will

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Speaker 2: have is that the last six and in particular three

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Speaker 2: years of abject fiscal vandalism that got us into this

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Speaker 2: mess is still real and raw enough for most of

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Speaker 2: us to work out that living in growing debt is

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Speaker 2: a fast track to the poorhouse. It shows to a

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Speaker 2: degree the power of largest of free stuff. I'm convinced

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Speaker 2: the percentage of the population that lapped up the handouts

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Speaker 2: and bugger the consequences grew under labor. An easy path

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Speaker 2: is a popular path filled by a lack of rigoring questions.

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Speaker 2: What this government is trying to do is write a

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Speaker 2: very very damaged chip. And these are the sort of

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Speaker 2: prices we have to pay. So that's the bit, that's

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Speaker 2: the debate. Let's see if needles get moved, news of

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Speaker 2: the world in ninety second. We want a massive love

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Speaker 2: and re it.

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Speaker 3: If I didn't like him, I'd get out of here

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Speaker 3: so fast. You know that, don't you. He knows me well.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I like him a lot. I like him too much.

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Speaker 3: That's why we give so much. You know too much.

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Speaker 2: I like you too much. And among the love, among

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Speaker 2: the love is the business.

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Speaker 5: Mister President. I am confident that today we will continue

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Speaker 5: to build with you based on the foundations of these

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Speaker 5: close partnership between two countries. What we sign today is

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Speaker 5: part of a greater ambition that invest the opportunities for

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Speaker 5: cooperation an exchange of benefit.

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Speaker 2: I will give you the numbers the moment part of

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Speaker 2: the business. Bonder, why is going to be this plane

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Speaker 6: Diest stincts, please define America first in a way that

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Speaker 6: says you you should take sacks of cash from the

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Speaker 6: Katari royals who are behind Al Jazeera.

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Speaker 7: I do not think the president of the United States

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Speaker 7: of America should sit and fly on a plane purchased

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Speaker 7: with the same money used to murder American citizens.

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Speaker 2: And if his fans don't like it, you can imagine

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Speaker 2: what the Dams thinks.

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Speaker 6: So corrupt that even Putin would give a double take.

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Speaker 6: This is not just naked corruption. It is also a

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Speaker 6: grave national security threat.

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Speaker 2: Metis a value judicial light you officially in Britain, Peter

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Speaker 2: had his conviction quashed other night. They thought he riped

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Speaker 2: for thirty eight years. They got that bit wrong. Modern

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Speaker 8: In the light of that fresh evidence, we allow the appeal.

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Speaker 8: On ground one, we quash the conviction.

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Speaker 2: And yes, thirty eight years is a record for a

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Speaker 2: wasn't angry. Then in Paris, Kim turned up to have

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Speaker 9: She turned him and said, I forgive you to Unmarke Kardash,

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Speaker 9: after which A M. Kardash responded in print because you

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Speaker 9: can't talk by saying your forgiveness is the sun, which

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Speaker 9: will illuminate me for the rest of my days, finding

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Speaker 2: Finally, space news both the US and Japan they're building

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Speaker 2: detectors to study a sum atomic sub atomic sub atomic

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Speaker 2: particle called a neutrino. They both hope the neutrino is

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Speaker 2: going to be the final piece of the puzzle to

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Speaker 2: answer the question what's the question? The question is why

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Speaker 2: does the universe exist? The US have fifteen hundred scientists

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Speaker 2: neutrino beam. Wouldn't you like to work on something like

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Speaker 2: a neutrino beam? What do you do? I work with

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Speaker 2: in a couple of years. The news of the world

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Speaker 2: and out of worlds in ninety Yeah. The Trump deals

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Speaker 2: they've done one point two this New Zealand dollars six

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Speaker 2: as far as the concerned defense money. He's also lifted

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Speaker 2: planning to lift sanctions on Syria to give them a

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Speaker 2: Syrian Foreign minister in Turkey later on this week. I

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Speaker 2: tell your Turkey is the place to be later this week,

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Speaker 2: pass em talking jam My Wealth Andrew calahevery good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, Very good morning, Mike, So the focus has

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Speaker 2: moved to the Middle East. Now, of course, where are

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Speaker 11: Yeh yeah. I'm just well, we're just sort of looking

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Speaker 11: Because it gave the US share market a big boost.

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Speaker 11: But has it flowed through overnight? Well, it has, but

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Speaker 11: but the Nasdaq has surged to a greater degree. You

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Speaker 11: had some inflation data overnight as well. We'll come back

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Speaker 11: to that, won't you. So yeah, about a point nine

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Speaker 2: That's quite notable.

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Speaker 11: We are in positive territory, but it's been a real

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Speaker 11: And I just make the point here was don't see

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Speaker 11: all that. That's up eight percent so far this week,

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Speaker 11: the surge in the US. Still got lots of earnings

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Speaker 11: recent results, and earnings have broadly missed analyst expectations. Also,

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Speaker 11: there's this kind of weird thing that's come out, Mike,

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Speaker 11: USCPI for April. Pretty a benign results at the headline

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Speaker 11: pleased to know the problematic egg prices have settled down.

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Speaker 11: They fell twelve point seven percent, although I do note

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Speaker 11: they're still up almost fifty percent from a year ago.

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Speaker 11: The haarriff's situation is temporarily sort of under a little

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Speaker 11: don't think inflations out of the woodwork just yet, though

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Speaker 11: you might still see some follow through in the next

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Speaker 2: Speaking which the trichometer, Yeah, this seems a mixed picture.

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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think what it shows, Mike, is that the recovery,

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Speaker 11: this long awaited recovery, isn't still bubbling away under the service.

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Speaker 11: So the light traffic index, it's the laggard. It's not

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Speaker 11: really moving. That's a good indicator of state of demand,

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Speaker 11: and we're not really seeing much going on there. It's

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Speaker 11: the trend is mildly upwards. But the heavy traffic index, though, Mike,

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Speaker 11: it's telling us there is a bit of momentum. Good

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Speaker 11: point year and year. That's a good steer on production captures,

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Speaker 11: retail trade. It's trending higher. The economy will get better, Mike.

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Speaker 11: next year. Assist till twenty six. Hang in there, will

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Speaker 11: get better.

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Speaker 2: It be the Philippines Vote's interesting. I'll come back after

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Speaker 2: six thirty with that Deterte who's currently at the Hague

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Speaker 2: won a mayoralty. So how is doing that? I'm not sure?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I more sure that India's inflation, by the way,

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Speaker 2: three point one six is that good? Yes, they thought

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Speaker 2: trending down around the world, which I suppose is encouraging

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Speaker 2: job market. And Britain no good. That's continue to weaken.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse, Mayhem Megasale on now.

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Speaker 2: Now the Mission Impossible hype is underway the latest, it seems,

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Speaker 2: four point zero nine billion US the franchise has made

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Speaker 2: so far now is four point zero nine billion a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. Well, it will make it the seventeenth

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Speaker 2: highest grossing film series of all time, which, when you

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Speaker 2: How do you get while I came suventeenth? Not really

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Speaker 2: a thing anyway. Simon Pig who's being there from the start.

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Speaker 2: He plays Banji Dunn. He's been on the Chris Ebans

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Speaker 12: It's the biggest film I've ever seen. I mean in

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Speaker 12: So there's lots of really really amazing character stuff. Tom

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Speaker 2: For all the characters. Everybody gets an arc.

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Speaker 12: Everybody gets a really sort of powerful emotional beat and

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Speaker 12: it's moving, you know, and I shed a tear and

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Speaker 12: I think partly because it's been twenty years of my

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Speaker 2: There's some real moments in it. Okay, Mission Impossible eight,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of elections and democracy, you gub this morning in

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Speaker 2: the UK, Faraj is still leading twenty eight percent, Labour

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Speaker 2: the big immigration crackdown, but they've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see whether the itever translates

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Speaker 2: into anything at the general election. Now, this right to

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Speaker 2: was Marima came up with us and it's that select

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Speaker 2: committee stage. But already we've got some trouble on your

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Speaker 2: right to repair stuff. So we'll have a look at

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Speaker 13: Breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll try and explain this so it makes some

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Speaker 2: sort of sense. But the Philippines election, and there's lots

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Speaker 2: of people that are half the Senate, the lower some

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff, the important parts of the Senate. So

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Speaker 2: the part I alluded to before is the former president

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Speaker 2: Deterte Rodrigo. He's been nabbed by the Hague. They want

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Speaker 2: no idea. Meanwhile, two of his most loyal aids, a

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Speaker 2: as well. Is that significant, Yes, it is. Currently the

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Speaker 2: president is a Marcos, the vice president is a Deterte.

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Speaker 2: The Deterte is the daughter of the bloke who's at

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Speaker 2: the Hague. The point of the Senate is that if

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Speaker 2: you control the Senate, you can potentially control whether the

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Speaker 2: Deterte runs for president in twenty twenty eight. They want

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Speaker 2: from the Marcos alliance. This is not good. Four of

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Speaker 2: not good for the incumbent president. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: all predicated on the idea that only sixty eight percent

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Speaker 2: but be rest assured. I'll keep you posted. Twenty two

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seveny Now back here you might remember

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Speaker 2: the Right to Repair Bill. It's excellent committee stage and

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Speaker 2: the Warehouse weighing and looking to push the Commerce Commission

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Speaker 2: to hold overseas manufacturers to account now their claimers retailers

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Speaker 2: are being stonewalled by overseas suppliers. Bill coming is the

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Speaker 2: GM of Sustainability and Ethical Sourcing from the Warehouse Group,

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Speaker 2: and he's with us. Feel good morning to you, Good

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Speaker 2: morning mate. As a concept are you into this or not?

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Speaker 10: Really, we absolutely support the intent of the bill. We

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Speaker 10: think people every day key we should have able to

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Speaker 10: fix the stuff when it breaks, when it goes wrong,

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Speaker 10: but not not just throw that out and buying you.

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Speaker 10: But for it to work, the rules need to be

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Speaker 10: fair and work for everyone. That means making sure manufacturers

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Speaker 10: do the bit, particularly those overseas that are here and

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Speaker 10: they don't get a three pass, and we have a

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Speaker 10: network of repairers here that can do the right job

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Speaker 2: I think you've just outlined the various problems with the build.

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Speaker 2: None of this is real, is it. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Commerce Commission will have no control over accompanying at the

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Speaker 2: back quarters of China who made something that arrived in

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Speaker 2: the country that now doesn't work. I mean, who's listening

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Speaker 2: to the Commerce Commission anywhere outside of New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. I mean, the the Commerce Commission does

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Speaker 10: have powers to act when manufacturers don't meet their obligations.

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Speaker 10: But in reality, as you rightly say, if you if

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Speaker 10: you've got a company based overseas, those those consumers are

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Speaker 10: left largely left sorting out, often turning to retailers like

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Speaker 10: need as clear or stronger rules to make sure that

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Speaker 10: those those companies are held accountable and those those are

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Speaker 10: the space here aren't picking.

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Speaker 8: Up the path.

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Speaker 2: Say I buy something from you and this law has passed,

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Speaker 2: and I want to repair it, and I bring it

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm assuming the law will say you've

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Speaker 2: got to tell me how it's broken or why it's broken,

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Speaker 2: and you need part ABC and screwed D and then

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Speaker 10: So how it's supposed to work is effectively you know

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Speaker 10: the rule that you've already got rights now repair everyone's

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Speaker 10: got repair rights now. Well, with the big gap is

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Speaker 10: around parts, tools, technical information. Well this will What this

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Speaker 10: that available. Obviously you don't want, you know, particularly in

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Speaker 10: you make it possible and make it easy access to

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Speaker 2: There's a cost in this though, isn't it. The more

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Speaker 2: you have to do, the more I'm going to have

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Speaker 10: So potentially, I mean, I think, you know, we are

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Speaker 10: and the customer can't sort it out, we as retailers

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Speaker 10: already doing that and then we're having to try and

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Speaker 10: then recover those costs for the manufacturer. We just have

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Speaker 10: recent case recently where it's just taken a year for

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Speaker 10: us to do that, where we pick something for the

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Speaker 10: it needn't do and if it's practical, proportionate and everyone,

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Speaker 10: and particularly on those higher value products as well, they're

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Speaker 10: making it easier, would help help the consumer, help reduce ways,

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Speaker 10: help us drive better service, and obviously potentially even make

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Speaker 10: products ideally more repairable. So it could drive innovation as

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Speaker 10: well if it's done well.

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Speaker 2: But doesn't most stuff crep that we buy and then

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Speaker 2: it breaks when we throw it out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, I think I think there's that that I

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Speaker 10: it needs to be for purpose. I think what we'd

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Speaker 10: approach outside of that to just make it easier for things,

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Speaker 10: for things if if people do want to repair, and

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Speaker 10: rightly so in some cases, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, film, go well with it, Appreciate it. Phil Coming,

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Speaker 2: who's the gem of sustainability and ethical sourcing at the

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Speaker 2: Warehouse Group. All I know about that is that's going

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Speaker 2: nowhere because Merrimad dreamed it up and it's full of

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Speaker 2: fencible nonsense. I've got an old AUDI and I've got

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Speaker 2: several parts I can't get for it because they don't

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Speaker 2: make them anymore. So does that bill cover this. Are

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Speaker 2: they going to suddenly make Audi in Germany produce parts

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Speaker 2: for nineteen ninety three UTI? Now, of course they're not,

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Speaker 2: so why are we wasting our time on this? Seventeen

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Speaker 2: Away from seven, the.

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Speaker 2: Very good example, Mike wondered, the part's rules apply to

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Speaker 2: hearing aids when I have perfectly good working aids, but

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Speaker 2: I'm told my one is now obsolete, can't get parts, Cindy,

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Speaker 2: well done, So let me know what is it you've

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Speaker 2: got that you would want to repair yourself and therefore

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Speaker 2: have somebody supply you with.

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Speaker 15: Just will apply to things that are being sold once

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Speaker 15: the rules correct.

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Speaker 2: But what is it? Give me an example, Well, there

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Speaker 2: would apply to hearing aids so well, would it? Because

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Speaker 2: what are they going to do with a law and

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Speaker 2: news home.

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Speaker 16: You wouldn't be allowed to sell it, so.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't bring them in. So suddenly the supply issue,

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Speaker 2: the supply chain would become a major. So if you

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Speaker 2: can't supply the parts, so you wouldn't sell Audi's, you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't sell hearing aids.

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean you're Audi. Example, that's an old Aldi Audi.

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Speaker 15: It's not a new one, is it okay?

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Speaker 2: And what about iPhones? I fits, yes all that. So

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't bring them into the country under the law.

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Speaker 15: Well no they would, but they have to be as

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Speaker 15: long as they were appearable and tick like that has

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Speaker 15: been made more repaarable apple products as you just mentioned,

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Speaker 15: they actually been forced like places like the EU too,

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Speaker 15: you know, get in line with this kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So this works you reckon well? Possibly fourteen two.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: I'd Richard on wanting to you, what do you make

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Speaker 2: use the money's flying in it?

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Speaker 17: It is and the Saudi certainly know how to deal

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Speaker 17: with Trump when it comes to these That is the

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Speaker 17: flattering and the fan fair may quite deceive. The Saudi

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Speaker 17: fighter jets a company Air Force one. As it flew

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Speaker 17: towards rear than Trump was greeted by the Saudi crunk

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Speaker 17: Prince may have been sulmon and ceremonial horses followed his

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Speaker 17: vehicle to the meeting place. There, the Crown Prince and

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Speaker 17: Trump greeted a host of rich folks business leaders who

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Speaker 17: had flown in from all over the world to who

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Speaker 17: shake the hands of the two men and speak with

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Speaker 17: Trump for maybe thirty seconds a piece. It seems this

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Speaker 17: is of course the same crown prince who had links

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Speaker 17: with some of the fifteen Saudi agents who murdered the

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Speaker 17: US journalist Jamal Khashogi in twenty eighteen. They ambushed him

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Speaker 17: at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, then strangled him and

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Speaker 17: cut him to pieces. The Saudis then imprisoned hundreds of

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Speaker 17: dissidents in their own country and imposed a climate of fear.

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Speaker 17: When Biden was in Saudi three years back, he confronted

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Speaker 17: Bin Sulmon about this. But today it has all smiles

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Speaker 17: and mostly yes. Money talk, lots and lots and lots

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Speaker 17: of money being spoken about. The Trump team claims it

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Speaker 17: has secured deals with six hundred billion US dollars. Trump says,

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Speaker 17: make it a trillion, and they all laughed raucously. Details

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Speaker 17: are vague, as ever, the Saudis played the Trump campaign

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Speaker 17: song God Blessed the USA as Trump appeared at an

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Speaker 17: investor's meeting. Ilon musks there as well, trying to extend

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Speaker 17: his starlight system and maybe big tunnels under the place.

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Speaker 17: Trump's son of law Jared Kushner, who got two billion

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Speaker 17: from the Saudi source is along and the Trump's sons

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Speaker 17: have massive real estate deals in the works in all

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Speaker 17: three of the countries on the Trump visit.

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Speaker 2: Trump Tower, Jeddaks coming soon.

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Speaker 17: Ah, they're already advertising guard though. So this is well.

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Speaker 17: Is it about boosted US economy or the Trump family fortunes?

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Speaker 17: That is a question being raised over here. What are

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Speaker 17: the Saudis getting in return for all of this ararazzle dazzle. Well,

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Speaker 17: the Crown Prince asked Trump to lift US sanctions on Syria.

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Speaker 3: Sure, says Trump, I will be ordering the cessation of

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Speaker 3: sanctions against Syria in order to give them a chance

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Speaker 3: at great for sheers.

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Speaker 18: In the room.

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Speaker 17: Following the overthrow of Assad in December, the Israeli has

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Speaker 17: not consulted on any of this, it would seem. There

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Speaker 17: is also a deal to cell Us design AI artificial

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Speaker 17: intelligence chips to an Emiradi firm that previously was investigative

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Speaker 17: things with China. But what they we're talking big money

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Speaker 17: once again. There has been some congressional reaction to that

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Speaker 17: earlier this week that Trump wants the delivery of that

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Speaker 17: four hundred million dollar plane from cataut To Services Palace

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Speaker 17: in the sky a new air Force one. Some US

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Speaker 17: lawmakers say, you would need to strip the jet down

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Speaker 17: to its very quarter to make sure it isn't bugged

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Speaker 17: and it's secure enough to be a flying oval office.

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Speaker 17: Trump says of this, I.

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Speaker 3: Would never be one to turn down that kind of

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Speaker 3: an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person

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Speaker 3: say no, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane.

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Speaker 17: Pressed about these security concerns, Republican Senator Cynthia Lummus of

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Speaker 17: Wyoming gave this response.

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Speaker 18: Well, they better sweep that plane from.

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Speaker 7: Front to back.

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Speaker 17: So yes, Mike, ause you hear they're taking it very,

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Speaker 17: very seriously.

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Speaker 2: Oh, catch up in a couple of days. By the way,

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Speaker 2: just quickly on Trump, the custom duties receipts for the

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Speaker 2: last month sixteen point three billion. So this is the

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Speaker 2: tariff's eighty six percent above the eight billion for March,

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Speaker 2: more than double the seven point one billion. So it's better.

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Speaker 2: So tariffs bring in money, yes, but it's nowhere near

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Speaker 2: the eight trillion he was claiming, nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks

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Speaker 1: Dead b Mike.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday got our first bill from a US supplier, including

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Speaker 2: tariff off sets. Don't text me that. Tell me what

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Speaker 2: it is. What do you do? What's the bill? Where

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Speaker 2: did it come from? Give me some detail for goodness sake, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to get a replacement battery for my dice

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Speaker 2: and vacuum which is less than ten years old, but

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Speaker 2: it's now a legacy model. It is exactly what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about, Mike. Tractors manufacturers have you by the short

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Speaker 2: and curlies won't let yourself repair or get a reasonably

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Speaker 2: priced mechanic to do repairs after warranty period is up.

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Speaker 2: Huge fight in the States with John Dearon that's been

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Speaker 2: going on for years. Mike, I've got a ninety one

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Speaker 2: to out GT four r C Carlos site special edition.

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Speaker 2: Most genuine parts have been discontinued, Mike. Heads up for

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Speaker 2: the owners of Wrexham, if they want a full house,

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Speaker 2: they need to bring their wives. Why would you bring

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Speaker 2: Blake interested?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm asking. Why would you go see Rixham,

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Speaker 2: who are a second tier football side, other than the

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Speaker 2: fact you might have seen a documentary And the only

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Speaker 2: reason you saw a documentary is because Ryan bought it,

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Speaker 2: and good on and for buying it, and good on

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Speaker 2: the success. Great story, But they're not. It's not Menu,

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Speaker 2: it's not Mean City, it's not Chelsea, it's not Liverpool.

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Speaker 2: It's just a second tier side that comes to play

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Speaker 2: football in the country. Is that a big deal? Are

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Speaker 2: you going because Ryan owns it? Therefore? Is are you

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Speaker 2: the same sort of person who doesn't buy a Tesla

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Speaker 2: because Elon owns it? Or is it something more than that?

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The inns are the ouse. It's the Fiz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Streaming news. ESPN's got this new application or app. It's

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Speaker 2: the sports part of everything that Disney Plus offers. Because

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Speaker 2: Disney owns ESPN. Of course the streaming service will be

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Speaker 2: called ESPN. That'll be useful. If you just buy the sport,

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Speaker 2: it'll cost you fifty bucks fifty. This is New Zealand money,

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars fifty. If you buy it along with the

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Speaker 2: Disney Plus package, it'll cost you sixty sixty. American customers

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Speaker 2: will get Hulu with that. We can't get Hulu, So

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Speaker 2: the annual subs five five five hundred and five bucks.

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Speaker 2: It will have everything from the NBA to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: to the NFL, the NHL hockey, whatever else you can

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Speaker 2: think of the ESPN offers. But you've already got ESPN

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Speaker 2: because you've got Sky. So you think, why am I

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Speaker 2: telling you this. I've already got ESPN on Sky needs

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Speaker 2: to be downloaded in a separate app to add to

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Speaker 2: all the other apps you've got. And the service differs

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Speaker 2: from the current one of ESPN Plus, which is the

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Speaker 2: entry to you where you don't get a lot of

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Speaker 2: live games, but apart from that piece of cake, ESPN

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Speaker 2: Plus cost you twenty dollars a month.

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Speaker 19: Got any of that?

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Speaker 2: How confusing does it need to get before our heads

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Speaker 2: all explode? I discovered all this the other day. I've

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Speaker 2: got Disney Plus, of course, because I'm an idiot who

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Speaker 2: just pays out money for everything. So then I thought,

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Speaker 2: I've got live basketball. I'll click onto the li Basketball.

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Speaker 2: But then as I clicked onto the Lies Disney Plus

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Speaker 2: ESPN Plus Basketball, I didn't thought, well, hold on, I've

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Speaker 2: got top in on Skimmer. So I'm playing now for

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Speaker 2: this twice. I'm playing two times over for the same thing.

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Speaker 16: This is too many, and you're paying for Neon as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm paying for Neil. I'm doing it all. I'm paying

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Speaker 2: paying for everything. I mean, I'd pay for Audi parts

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Speaker 2: if they made those, I'd get a new battery from

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Speaker 2: a dice and cleaner, because if they make I've got

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Speaker 2: I'm just a sucker. I'm your classic sucker for a

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Speaker 2: new product, a stupid idea, and a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Come to Mike, You'll get me every time. Speaking of money,

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis, So we're going to make a withdrawal from

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Speaker 2: the super fund for the first time. Is this actually

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Speaker 2: going somewhere? Is this actually going to solve the problem

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Speaker 2: which was the idea in the first place? She's Willi's next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day on

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Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be past seven. So is this the coming

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Speaker 2: of age of our super fund set up to ultimately

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Speaker 2: at least part we fund our superannuation requirements. It's been

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Speaker 2: announced we'll be making our first withdrawal in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: That's five years earlier than thought. Finance Minister Nikola Willis

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Speaker 2: good morning, very good morning. Still three years out, are

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Speaker 2: you confident on these numbers you'll be withdrawing and withdrawing

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Speaker 2: well or not?

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Speaker 20: They are forecasts. They're based on a formula that's a law.

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Speaker 20: It's a very complicated formula to do with how much

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Speaker 20: is in the fund, what GDP is, how many tax

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Speaker 20: payers there are, all sorts of things. But that is

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Speaker 20: Treasury's forecast at this stage, and it gives you an

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Speaker 20: indication of where we are, which is we've all talked

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Speaker 20: for several years about it. At a certain point, the cost

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Speaker 20: of superannuation will get very high and then we'll need

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Speaker 20: the super fund to help. We're now at that point.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, does it solve the problem long term? In other words,

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Speaker 2: it pays for a retirement or not?

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Speaker 20: Well, it helps offset the costs of New Zealand superannuation.

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Speaker 20: So that is a contribution towards paying super.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what in its golden moments? What percentage will

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Speaker 2: it offset?

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Speaker 20: And it's golden moment, it's only going to be about

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Speaker 20: twenty percent of the total cost jees.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't extinguished the debate as to whether we

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Speaker 2: need to retire older yet.

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Speaker 20: Well, there's no getting away from the fact that superannuation

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Speaker 20: is very expensive. Just in the next few years, it's

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Speaker 20: going to leap up to twenty nine billion dollars a

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Speaker 20: year because there are a lot of people over the

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Speaker 20: age of sixty five and superannuation is pegged to the

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Speaker 20: after tax average wage, so that number keeps going up.

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Speaker 20: And that's the commitment that we have as a country

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Speaker 20: is to fund that entitlement, and we then need to

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Speaker 20: pay for it, and there are fewer tax payers of

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Speaker 20: course in the future to help pay for it.

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Speaker 2: Other side of the equations, Ken we Save, you're going

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Speaker 2: to do something in the budget. Yes, I am good

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Speaker 2: to the positive.

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Speaker 20: Yes, because I want to see people's key we Saver

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Speaker 20: balances grow. I think key we Saver has become particularly

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Speaker 20: important for those saving to buy their first time. You

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Speaker 20: had more than forty thousand people use key we Saver

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Speaker 20: to do that in the past year. And it's also

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Speaker 20: become an increasingly important supplement for people's retirement income. And

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Speaker 20: so we'll be announcing some changes, and I think they're positive.

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Speaker 2: Good changes from your side of the equation or out

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Speaker 2: side of the equation.

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Speaker 20: I'll be announcing some changes and there's only eight slips

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Speaker 20: to go until everyone can read all about it in

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Speaker 20: the budget.

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Speaker 2: Have you read all of a Heart, which is peace

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Speaker 2: in the heral this morning?

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Speaker 20: I have not read that yet.

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Speaker 2: Well worth reading too much government in this country, and

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Speaker 2: research says the bigger that government is, the more inefficient

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Speaker 2: we are, and we're hopelessly in efficient. Fair or not.

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Speaker 20: Well, we have a goal of getting the proportion of

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Speaker 20: government spending as part of the economy down to thirty percent.

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Speaker 20: We're making progress in this budget.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting that down.

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Speaker 20: I agree with the idea that you've got to give

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Speaker 20: everyone room to do their own thing. And if government

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Speaker 20: is taking up more and more of the resources, creating

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Speaker 20: more and more red tape, getting more and more in

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Speaker 20: the way and out competing the private sector, that's a problem.

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Speaker 20: Squeezes out innovation, squeezes out good ideas exactly. I got

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Speaker 20: to keep it in proportion.

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Speaker 2: You your target is thirty his number this morning's thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: When are we down at.

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Speaker 20: Thirty Well, we've set that as our medium term target.

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Speaker 20: You'll see at the budget that we're making pretty good

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Speaker 20: progress of the next few years and getting towards that number.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you time, Finance Minister Nikola will as

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Speaker 2: the piece as well worth reading. As I alluded to her.

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Speaker 2: She says thirty it's currently thirty eight percent of the economy.

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Speaker 2: The size of the government of this economy is ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: he claims, despite what Nicholas says at thirty percent, he

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Speaker 2: claims international optimization is between twenty five and thirty. It

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Speaker 2: is ten minutes past seven, last geting. Now the budget

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Speaker 2: announcements coming thick and faster. We wind up to next week,

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Speaker 2: of course, one hundred and forty million now for the

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Speaker 2: front line Attendant services, that's what they're calling it, front

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Speaker 2: line Attendant services to get schooled attendants up. The new

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Speaker 2: services will be more data driven, with a focus on

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Speaker 2: accountability and monitoring. David Cemore's the Associate Minister of Education,

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Speaker 2: of course, and is with us. Very good morning to.

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Speaker 18: You, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Ahead of this, what are the numbers so far? Are

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Speaker 2: you winning the battle on getting kids back to school

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, there's been good improvements. If you look at term

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Speaker 18: on term over the last year, we're doing about five

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Speaker 18: percent better each term than we were the same term

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Speaker 18: a year earlier, so where we were getting numbers of

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Speaker 18: maybe fifty something percent of students attending regularly. That means

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Speaker 18: ninety percent or more. We're now getting more something more

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Speaker 18: like low sixties depending on the term, So that trend

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Speaker 18: is positive, but it's also nowhere they're good enough. Our

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Speaker 18: goal was eighty percent, And in my view, you know,

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Speaker 18: the thing that will tell you the most about where

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Speaker 18: New Zealand's going to be at ten or twenty fifty

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Speaker 18: years time from now is how many kids went to

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Speaker 18: school yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. The accountability aspect of it is everyone

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Speaker 2: who can playing ball, schools, et cetera.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think the truth is our attendant services have

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Speaker 18: been really really mixed. So there's some heroes out there,

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Speaker 18: but ero also found some really really pathetic practices when

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Speaker 18: we got them to review it at the end of

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Speaker 18: last year. That's why we're going big on attendance. Financially,

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Speaker 18: we're putting one hundred and forty million dollars of extra

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Speaker 18: taxpayer money over the next four years. That's thirty five

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Speaker 18: million a year. I'm not generally keen on spending more money.

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Speaker 18: I think this is an area where it's worth it.

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Speaker 18: If we have the accountability, what do you buy?

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Speaker 2: Are you buying people?

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Speaker 18: We're going to largely largely services. So there's going to

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Speaker 18: be about eighty regions and each one is going to

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Speaker 18: have a single attendance service that schools can call on.

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Speaker 18: But that's going to be backed up by much better data.

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Speaker 18: Because when I sat down with the Ministry when I

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Speaker 18: got this job at the start of last year, I said, well,

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Speaker 18: what are you doing? And they produced a big spreadsheet

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Speaker 18: and I said, well, which of these are the most

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Speaker 18: effective things we're doing to get kids to school? And

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Speaker 18: they said, oh, we don't know. So I then went

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Speaker 18: out and did a series of meetings or I just

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Speaker 18: listened to principles Attendance Officers, you ad police and said, well,

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Speaker 18: what actually works and what we're putting in place is

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Speaker 18: something called Star steped Attendance Response Scheme. That means that

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Speaker 18: for any level of attendance, if a kid's attending a

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Speaker 18: ninety percent plus, that's great, nothing to see here. But

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Speaker 18: as their attendance declines, the parents, the school, the Ministry

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Speaker 18: of Education, are their agencies in the community, ordering a tarmurki,

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Speaker 18: the police, they all have a role to play depending

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Speaker 18: on which step we're at and how we're responding. So

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Speaker 18: we are putting in more money, but we're also measuring

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Speaker 18: it a lot better with a much better data. I

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Speaker 18: can now tell you that yesterday eighty five point nine

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Speaker 18: percent of students were at school compared with eighty nine

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Speaker 18: last Tuesdays. It's kind of bad for this week, and

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Speaker 18: we're going to make sure that we actually get results

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Speaker 18: out of this money, because you know, this is hard

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Speaker 18: to learn when you're at school, impossible if you're not well.

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Speaker 2: So David Seymour who also today, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he won't be attending, but the White Tangy Tribunal

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Speaker 2: is having another one of their emergency hearings, this time

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Speaker 2: over the Regulatory Standards Bill. There's a lack of a

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Speaker 2: specific tetirity treaty clause in the proposal, and the combined

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Speaker 2: legislative pincer movement that is the RSB and the TPB

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Speaker 2: as in the treaty being needs to be dealt with

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Speaker 2: byd Tribunal Today fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Talks at b Mike. Is that thirty percent government stat well,

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Speaker 2: it's more than thirty. They're aiming for thirty central or

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Speaker 2: local or both. It's combined seventeen minutes past seven. Good

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Speaker 2: news for New Zealand Inc. I think a Targo is

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Speaker 2: to be home of the country's biggest inland port. Private

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Speaker 2: and Best is looking to think about three billion into

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Speaker 2: a two hundred hecty development north of Milton. Milton, south

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Speaker 2: of Dunedin. Of course the idea to relieve congestion, JI

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Speaker 2: and freight is forecast to grow thirty to forty percent

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Speaker 2: over the next decade. Now, Mark Johnston is the land

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Speaker 2: and delivery manager that called the Stewart who are one

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Speaker 2: of the developers and he's with us Mark morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is this like the Hamilton super Hub?

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Speaker 21: It's similar, similar, Mike, that's right down, similar to Recura.

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Speaker 21: It's a bill get integrated in landport. And also there'll

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Speaker 21: be land available to develop warehousing and other industrial buildings.

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Speaker 2: So is it Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.

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Speaker 2: Is it movement or storage or both? They'll be both, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So being south of Dunedin. The beauty of the Ruakura

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Speaker 2: thing is it's part of the diamond, the triangle, whatever

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Speaker 2: shape you want to call it. What what's Milton part of?

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Speaker 21: Well, the majority of all the goods that come to

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Speaker 21: Pork charmers in Donedan are from Southland and the target

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Speaker 21: and they come down to stay hurry wan right past

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Speaker 21: our site on their way through to Dnedin.

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Speaker 2: And that growth you're talking about thirty to forty percent in.

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Speaker 21: What that's in logging and other goods just manufactured and

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Speaker 21: grown in those regions.

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Speaker 2: Super encouraging though that it's growing by that much.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, No, it looks great and you we're really excited

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Speaker 21: to present this an import development for the region.

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Speaker 2: Where's that paper wise red stamp wise eurocrious land wise.

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Speaker 21: Bureaucracy rights, that's right, that's right. The land is zoned industrial.

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Speaker 21: It was rezoned several years ago in the community had

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Speaker 21: a chance to consult on it back then. So we're

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Speaker 21: just working through the mass plan now and we'll be

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Speaker 21: lodging for resless content later on the year and building

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Speaker 21: contents to follow.

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Speaker 2: And the time frame roughly in the beast of all

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Speaker 2: possible worlds, we're.

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Speaker 21: Hoping to be to start construction within twenty four months.

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Speaker 2: Good. Are you part of the first track?

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Speaker 21: No, we're not because the land is already zoned. We

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Speaker 21: don't need to use the fast track X for this project,

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Speaker 21: which is which is encouraging.

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Speaker 2: I hope, so good luck with it. Go well Mark

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Speaker 2: Johnston who who's a land and delivery at called the Stewart.

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Speaker 2: It's a big project. They're big and to solar there

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Speaker 2: as well, and you'll be able to benefit if you're

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Speaker 2: involved in that NBA league passed. Mike's about twenty dollars

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Speaker 2: a month to watch every single NBA game ridiculously cheap. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to be a super fan, don't you,

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Speaker 2: with all the other expenditure you've gotten streaming services. But

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Speaker 2: good on you, Mike. I launched an app where you

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Speaker 2: can watch objectionable porn on your work computer and not

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Speaker 2: get in trouble. Sixty two dollars ninety a month to

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Speaker 2: get access to work porn. Plus let me know, Mike

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Speaker 2: Sky doesn't have four K for NBA Disney does Does

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Speaker 2: that make a difference. I happen to watch, as I said,

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Speaker 2: the basketball the other day on Disney. I didn't notice

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Speaker 2: any difference, So or is that?

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Speaker 16: As we know?

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Speaker 2: It's just me, Mike, my seven year old, My seven

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Speaker 2: year old new as LG fridge freezer has a gas leak,

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Speaker 2: but no one repairs them in Wellington. So I had

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Speaker 2: to buy a new one. See that's the sort of

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Speaker 2: problem I'm talking about.

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Speaker 19: Now.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you can't get a part. It just

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Speaker 2: means you're claiming you can't find a new one to

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Speaker 2: do it, which might be a different argument.

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Speaker 2: you can do it online and you can stop paying

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Speaker 2: too much. These great chemist Warehouse may Hem mega sale

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Speaker 2: offers got to end fourth of June. Teas and Seas

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Speaker 2: apply PASK eleven twenty four. Here's another example of the

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Speaker 2: way the pay equity game is played by the media.

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Speaker 2: If you choose not to call a minister a sea word,

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Speaker 2: you can run a headline like this ministers set to

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Speaker 2: take big pay rises right after wiping thirty three pay

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Speaker 2: equity claims. Now that was the headline and newsroom yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's dishonest in its inference, its emotive, it misrepresents what's happening,

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Speaker 2: and in that is the government's battle to try and

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Speaker 2: convince the casual observer there is merit in what they

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Speaker 2: have done and changing the law. Firstly, a minister's pay

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Speaker 2: and an equity claim are two completely different things. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: a minister's pay is not equity based because a woman

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Speaker 2: minister gets what a male minister gets, always have, always will,

893
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Speaker 2: making it slightly more complicated. A minister's pay is not

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Speaker 2: merit base. They all get the same no matter how

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Speaker 2: hard they work, how many portfolios they have, how good

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Speaker 2: they are or are not. Thirdly, although the thirty three

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Speaker 2: equity claims were wiped, it doesn't mean they were stopped

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Speaker 2: from going ahead under new rules. It doesn't mean they

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Speaker 2: won't succeed under new rules. We haven't yet seen how

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Speaker 2: that particular story unfolds. Fourthly, and part of the reason

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Speaker 2: for the rule change is a lot of the claims

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Speaker 2: were not equity claims. They will bargaining masquerading as equity

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Speaker 2: from the Union's Fifthly, the fact a minister gets a

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Speaker 2: pay rise is not a minister's doing. It's an independent

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Speaker 2: body over which a minister has no control. Like an

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Speaker 2: equity claim, the body looks at similar work to a

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Speaker 2: minister's and makes a call based on those numbers. The

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Speaker 2: irony of that being who do you compare a minister

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Speaker 2: to You can't. Of course, a PM especially is unique,

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Speaker 2: So it's a muddle. It's a system that's okay only

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Speaker 2: because we can't think of another one. But at no

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Speaker 2: point is it about equity. The emotion of the debate

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Speaker 2: overtook the rationale of the debate. The moment Brook van

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Speaker 2: Velden made the announcement and it's gone downhill ever since.

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Speaker 2: And sixthly, the headline uses the word claim a ministerial pay.

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Speaker 2: There is no claim, just an occasional decision independently reached.

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Speaker 2: So overall, in terms of discourse around a detailed of

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Speaker 2: not complex issue apples and apples is what you might

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Speaker 2: hope for, not immaturity in muddied waters, which is what

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Speaker 2: New battery for Dyson's. You take off the battery, click

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Speaker 2: in a battery adapter, you use the rechargeable batteries, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. So well done that my mate Gelvin came

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Speaker 2: The bike has a battery operated They call it a

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Speaker 2: flight panel, which is a very grandiose thing for the

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Speaker 2: numbers that come up on the screen. Anyway, there was

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Speaker 2: no way you can undate.

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Speaker 16: We're talking about stationary bike here.

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Speaker 2: Stationary bike right, okay, spin bike right right.

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Speaker 15: I just thought that you had like a bike that

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Speaker 15: you were biking around.

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Speaker 2: Flight panel. It's a flight panel anyway, the flight panel

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Speaker 2: couldn't get them off, had all the screwdrivers, all the

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Speaker 2: tech spent three weekends on it. Galvin comes round. It's done.

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Speaker 16: See that's the thing. You can have the right to repair.

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Speaker 2: But should you exactly? That's my whole point. How much

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Speaker 2: stuff do you want to muck around with? And what

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Speaker 2: risk are you're taking that you will kill yourself or

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Speaker 2: indeed somebody else with frustration us for you. In a

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Speaker 2: couple of moments Politics Wednesday after Great by the Way

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Speaker 2: like Mitchell, Jenny and to Sondboard Mazoni.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life your Way News, togs

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Speaker 1: Head be Mike Well.

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Speaker 2: Right to repair bill include the ability to fix the

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Speaker 2: stupidity of idealistic politicians who don't realize it costs a

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Speaker 2: minimum of three hundred and fifty dollars for the average

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Speaker 2: repair on any appliance that requires two visits from a

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Speaker 2: repair person, and new appliance costs around one thousand dollars. No,

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Speaker 2: of course it won't and that's When I first heard

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Speaker 2: her talk about it, I thought, this is for people

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Speaker 2: who sit in sheds and want to make an old

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Speaker 2: lamp lass that their grandmother gave them, and they want

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Speaker 2: to get a few special screws and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: and you know, fantastic, God bless you if you want

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Speaker 2: to do that. But the world's moved on from that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I've got a price on the wildfires

961
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Speaker 2: out of Los Angeles. Is that so far this year

962
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Speaker 2: the most forgotten story of all for a world that

963
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Speaker 2: was literally obsessed for days on end. The moment we

964
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Speaker 2: became not obsessed. We moved on in a way that

965
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Speaker 2: no one give us a monkeys. Who were the guy

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Speaker 2: we had, the comedian we had on the other day, Yeah, Perven,

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Piven. So I asked him about it, and he said,

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Speaker 2: nothing's changed. If you go up into the areas of

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Speaker 2: the vote, nothing said, nothing's been rebuilt. It's all black

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Speaker 2: and everyone's still gone, and no one gives a monkeys.

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Speaker 2: The whole world's moved on. The bill or part of

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Speaker 2: the bill came out overnight. Munich Ree and hanover Ree,

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Speaker 2: who are reinsurers, say are the insurers who ensure the

974
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Speaker 2: insurers anyway, they reported in Germany they're German reinsurers and

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Speaker 2: they're just part of the equation. A lot of them

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Speaker 2: are Swiss anyway, two billion US so four billion there

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Speaker 2: part and their part alone on claims and insurance four

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Speaker 2: billions and counting. Imagine what the overall bill And I

979
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Speaker 2: don't think anybody knows will be twenty two minutes away

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Speaker 2: from eight follows Wednesday, Mark and Jinny after I of

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Speaker 2: course meantime back here inciting about drug habits. The latest

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Speaker 2: U Zealand Drug Trends survey shows the increasing use of

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Speaker 2: social media to purchase MDMA.

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Speaker 18: This is so.

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Speaker 2: Depressing, up from thirteen to twenty four percent of the

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Speaker 2: last four years via the web. Most popular apps for

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Speaker 2: purchasing your MDMA and all your other drug Snapchat or

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Speaker 2: the Facebook Messenger.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Chris Wilkins is a drug researcher at Massing Universities. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's Chris, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning Mark.

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Speaker 2: Is this any different to me purchasing anything using an app?

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Speaker 2: I mean, in other words, drugs is just like a

995
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Speaker 2: fridge is like a car.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 14: So this is a general implication of revolution and social

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Speaker 14: media and digital online selling and shopping. But I think

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Speaker 14: we need to be aware. It's just unfortunately some of

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Speaker 14: these apps are particularly conducive to drug buying and selling,

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Speaker 14: and that they have encryption, natural networking and self delete messages.

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Speaker 14: But I just think we need to be aware of

1003
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Speaker 14: how that market has really changed, just like a lot

1004
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 14: of other things, and it has implications for how young

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00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 14: people are engage and become aware of drug use.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, you would never as a sixteen, eighteen,

1007
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Speaker 2: nineteen year old, wander around the corner to find the

1008
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Speaker 2: gang member to flick you a bit or whatever, but

1009
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Speaker 2: you might stumble upon this online and then doing that

1010
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: you're down a slippery slope.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. So I mean for older generations we

1012
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 14: think about drug markets is that the bad kid in

1013
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 14: the class and getting to know them and you know,

1014
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Speaker 14: behind the pub and stuff like that. So this is

1015
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Speaker 14: much more insidious. And then we've got an algorithm that's

1016
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Speaker 14: working fishing for likes for people engagement, and that means

1017
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Speaker 14: a broader cross section of young people. Some young people

1018
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Speaker 14: that wouldn't really expect to be exposed to drug use

1019
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 14: are through Even things of like gaming apps are now

1020
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Speaker 14: used for these kinds of deals.

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Speaker 2: How do you know who you're dealing with, what sort

1022
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: of risky you're taking?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. So and there's a whole new bunch

1024
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Speaker 14: of risks. So even though you might buy drugs online

1025
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Speaker 14: through social media, often you need to physically go and

1026
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Speaker 14: pick up drugs or you need the drugs to be delivered.

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Speaker 14: And then suddenly you're moving away from that safe, digital,

1028
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Speaker 14: anonymous environment to something that can be quite real. And

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Speaker 14: there has been situations where people turn up to buy

1030
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Speaker 14: drugs and they find a gang member instead of who

1031
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Speaker 14: they were expecting.

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Speaker 2: Exactly are we outlies and this? Do you have any

1033
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: sort of international flavor for whether we're a bunch of

1034
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Speaker 2: drug addital losers or the whole world's into this?

1035
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Speaker 14: I know the whole world is into this, and I

1036
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Speaker 14: think this is something we already got to get a

1037
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Speaker 14: handle in terms of drug supply and how drug markets

1038
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 14: are changing, becoming digitalized, becoming global, and that really there

1039
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 14: is some opportunities now to engage online, which is a

1040
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 14: good thing to take, but really this is really ramping

1041
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 14: up the level of drug mark curtain and the difficulty

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Speaker 14: in doing something about it.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Chris almost enjoy your company. Chris Wilkins, who's

1044
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Speaker 2: the massive universe that you drug researcher. It's nineteen minutes

1045
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Speaker 2: away from Ete pasking new developments on my King Salmon

1046
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Speaker 2: thing that we raised on the program yesterday. Boyo, boy

1047
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Speaker 2: did that take off? There's a tremendous amount of interest

1048
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Speaker 2: in the cost of things in this country. And also

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Speaker 2: King Salmon, is it not King salmon? Smoked salmon? King

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Speaker 2: Salmon was one of the companies were dealt with just quickly.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of the cost of stuff, God

1052
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Speaker 2: bless Donald Trump. It's not the first time I've said that,

1053
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Speaker 2: and probably won't be the last. But what I didn't

1054
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Speaker 2: realize is the EPA, which is the Environment Protection Agency.

1055
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Speaker 2: He signed an executive order, and the executive order said

1056
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Speaker 2: that you've got to scrap ten regulations for every new

1057
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Speaker 2: one you introduce. So far, so good. One of the

1058
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Speaker 2: things they're looking at scrapping is in your car, the

1059
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Speaker 2: stop start system, and the sooner they scrap that, the better.

1060
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Speaker 2: And if they do that successfully and that goes global,

1061
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Speaker 2: I will vote for Donald Trump. In fact, I'll have

1062
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's baby because it is the stupidest thing and

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Speaker 2: that do you know what else the EU. It all

1064
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Speaker 2: came out of the EU. The EU are now looking

1065
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Speaker 2: at getting rid of carbon carbon bits in your car.

1066
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Speaker 2: So when you buy a car, the flash bits can

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Speaker 2: be carbon. In fact, you pay on flash cars a

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Speaker 2: lot of extra money. You talk carbon fiber, carbon fiber.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 2: Your carbon fiber mirror, your carbon fiber splitter, your carbon

1071
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Speaker 2: fiber roof, carbon fiber bits in there. They want to

1072
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Speaker 2: ban that because they don't like carbon anymore. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Trump's counteracting that if he can get rid of the

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Speaker 2: stop go, God bless him. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Morning. Might we had a good quality for year old

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Speaker 2: to be assessed, but was totally to cost more to

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Speaker 2: repair than to buy a new one. That's the problem.

1081
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: How much time and energy do you want to spend

1082
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: on finding out something can be repaired? No problem at

1083
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: all if you want to pay more than a new one,

1084
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 2: that's the key. Why don't you turn the stop start

1085
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: mechanism off by the button on the dash? Are you

1086
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: asking that question for goodsall? Of course I can, and

1087
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: I can then turn the traction control off and the

1088
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: lane departure warning system off, and then I'll be late

1089
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: for work. I agree, Mike. How many times do you

1090
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: miss a phase that the lights with all the cars

1091
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: starting themselves? It's true now Salmon yesterday, very good morning

1092
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: to the people at New Zealand King Salmon, who went

1093
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: to great lengths apparently to tell us how much they

1094
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: love the program when Sammy called them Sami's research assistant

1095
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: on the program, just to introduce them to you. So

1096
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: my big thing over the weekend was I discovered by

1097
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: accident that the cost of smoked salmon appears to be

1098
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: well in excess of one hundred dollars a kilo. And

1099
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: I was fully primed on the business of I, Philip

1100
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: being anywhere between sixty and seventy dollars akilo. Lamb Cutlet's

1101
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: being right up there snap of being about fifty something

1102
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: dollars akilo. But the smoke salmon turns out to be

1103
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: in a league of its own. And I spent a

1104
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: bit of time over the weekend after we paid one

1105
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen dollars only to find it you can

1106
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: go to the supermarket and buy your regular stuff at

1107
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and twenty

1108
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: nine dollars achilo. I semi, I see it as this normal.

1109
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: What happens? How did something get to be so fantastically expensive?

1110
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: So he rings king salmon. They do smoke salmon in

1111
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: the high fifties, double the regular salmon. And as I

1112
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: was I was writing suggesting yesterday, when you smoke it

1113
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: you lose half the yield. Of course, geographically a lot

1114
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: of salmon places are isolated, so you've got charging costs

1115
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: on top of that. They claim in New Zealand charges

1116
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: a lot to transport. You've got electricity prices, which is

1117
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: the bog standard excuse for most businesses. We went to

1118
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: Alraqi Mount cook online. Your hot smoked is sixty for

1119
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: a nine hundred gram fillt so you're dealing with what

1120
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: are you dealing with? Their seventy ish akilo. That seems

1121
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: a good deal. High Country salmon was thirty for three hundred,

1122
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: so in other words, about one hundred akilo. So by

1123
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: the time you're getting it, if you're not doing it online,

1124
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: by the time you get it to the supermarket, the

1125
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 2: supermarket are charging. By my estimation twenty to twenty nine

1126
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: dollars a kilo just margin. So that's a lot of margin.

1127
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 16: We need some kind of inquiry.

1128
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: I reckon, you need to get some What about the

1129
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: grocery commissioner? Where's old Patrick or whatever his name is,

1130
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: Get him onto this. There's a scandal brewing. We went

1131
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: to akioa King salmon. They're doing ninety four fifty but

1132
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: they were sold out. So it's an interesting debate, isn't it.

1133
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: It's not like people aren't prepared to pay it. It's

1134
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: not like it's not fabulous product. It's not like it's

1135
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: not good for you. But it seems that online is

1136
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: the way to go direct from the producer as opposed

1137
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: to the supermarket, because the supermarket making Tomai thirty bucks

1138
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: a kilo as a markup is unnecessarily high, and maybe

1139
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: we are getting gouged after all. So there's your But

1140
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: we're called perre not per p of inherent, isn't it?

1141
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 14: Yes?

1142
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: Yes, of course from sanitarium. Now I know how could

1143
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: I forget him? So anyway, there's your smokes.

1144
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 15: My question behind all this is has it the seven

1145
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 15: always been expensive?

1146
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 22: Like?

1147
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 15: Are you going to start complaining about them are going

1148
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 15: to sacoplating about the price of cab adamorrow.

1149
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: No, if you say, if you said, if you said

1150
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: to me, how much is salmon? I would have gone

1151
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: about the same mistake. Sixty bucks tequilo. That would have

1152
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: been my guess, not one hundred and thirty nothing, know

1153
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: me something else that's outside of cavia. That's more than

1154
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty dollars a kilo pine nuts? Gs eed, bollocks,

1155
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: how much of pine nuts? Turn away from eight.

1156
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities news togs.

1157
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Had been Nipbull having a bit of a player eligibility

1158
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: tet tete At the moment the Players Association want to

1159
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: move the an Ze Premiership are to before or after

1160
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: the Australian Super Netball comp so as this doable. Jenny

1161
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: Wiley as Netball in New Zealand's Boston is with us,

1162
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, with this whole kerfuffle around movement

1163
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: of competitions and players offshore and eligibility, et cetera. How

1164
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: much trouble is netball in as a sport.

1165
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 19: Look, Nipple's really strong and I think we're we're working

1166
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 19: through a bunch of a sh who at the moment,

1167
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 19: and it's not lost on us that it seems like

1168
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 19: lots of moving parts, but we're really excited about the

1169
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 19: direction that it's heading in.

1170
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Can the competition be moved or not?

1171
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 19: Yes, it can, and I think if we were going

1172
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 19: to explore that further, along with other options, it would

1173
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 19: be from twenty twenty seven onwards. We have Commonwealth Games

1174
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 19: smack in the middle of July of next year, so

1175
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 19: our competition next year will kind of play out around

1176
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 19: the same time it is now.

1177
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: So if you move and take the COLM Games into account,

1178
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: do you then have to take the com games into

1179
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: account the next time round if you move it and

1180
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: it clashes again.

1181
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 19: Well, that's one of our challenges is we don't control

1182
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 19: the timing of the COMM Games, and it makes it

1183
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 19: really difficult from a broadcast and commercial perspective when it

1184
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 19: does keep on moving. So ideally you'd have some certainty

1185
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 19: and calm games would sit outside of the window, but

1186
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 19: again that comes down to location and who's going to

1187
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 19: stay in and who's going to pull out us and

1188
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 19: so we're kind of at the whim of how though

1189
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 19: those you know, the common Federation's planet and.

1190
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: If you did move the comp is it realistic to

1191
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: expect top line Australian rock stars would come and play

1192
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: here or not.

1193
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 19: Well, our intention is we want to have a competition

1194
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 19: that is attractive to both Keywis to play in and Australians,

1195
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 19: and we're already seeing some of Australians come and play

1196
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 19: here because the opportunities are available to them. So if

1197
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 19: you were, you know, similar to a cricket model IPL

1198
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 19: where the top flight players can go and earn a

1199
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 19: living throughout the competition structure as opposed to one pay

1200
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 19: master in one location.

1201
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: What's your assessment of the top flight players that we

1202
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: have that have gone is and their effect on damaging

1203
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: the competition.

1204
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 19: Well, I think it's twofold. You want athletes that are

1205
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 19: in country giving that to your community, but at the

1206
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 19: same time you want them to be able to develop

1207
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 19: and a lot of them are young women that you know,

1208
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 19: the oees are important and being able to go and

1209
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 19: do things outside of netbook are important. So the challenges

1210
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 19: you've got to bring through talent, You've got to create

1211
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 19: those personalities, but at the same time look after those

1212
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 19: unique cases where they do have the opportunity to go

1213
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 19: and develop and live overseas and do something a bit

1214
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 19: different with their lives.

1215
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: Does your gut tell you this will work out well

1216
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: in the end or you don't know.

1217
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 19: Look, it's a bit of a moving face. But we

1218
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 19: as a sport are finding the landscapes really challenging and

1219
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 19: we are having to think differently, and that means looking

1220
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 19: at our commercial and broadcasting in a different way, but

1221
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 19: having to really work with like minded entities around that

1222
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 19: actually value women's sport because that's one of the biggest

1223
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 19: things that we face into. But Nebel's one hundred years old.

1224
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 19: Our community is growing. It's growing by ten percent year

1225
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 19: on year, which is phenomenal given our quantity of people

1226
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 19: one hundred and fifty thousand participants. And so our job

1227
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 19: to make sure the long jevity of this elite game

1228
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 19: for our those really you know, top flight athlete.

1229
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'm Jenny appreciate it. Jenny Wiley out of Netball

1230
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: New Zealand this morning Politics Wednesday, pleaded to cover off.

1231
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: They rolled Winston Peters out yesterday on the five hundred cops.

1232
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: So the emission has come. They're not going to make it.

1233
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Is that actually a big deal surely the numbers the

1234
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: more important thing. Say it comes in at four ninety seven,

1235
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: is that a fail if it comes in at two sixteen? Sure,

1236
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: so we'll talk about that. Of course, the pay equity

1237
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: thing as well. This and political matters.

1238
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: Shortly for you, Mike caskame insightful, engaging and vital the

1239
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue,

1240
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: can use togs ed bu.

1241
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: This is I want to say, I know Tom York?

1242
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: Why do I know Tom York?

1243
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 16: He's the lead singer of Radio Gets.

1244
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Do I know Mark Pritchard?

1245
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 17: Probably not?

1246
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: No, tell Tool Tails, Tool Tales is the album Mark Pritchard,

1247
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: Tom York are the artists. It says here one of

1248
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: the songs happy Days, you got happy Days? Then why

1249
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: are you playing happy Days on the show that ends

1250
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: every day with the words happy Days? I would have

1251
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: thought that was a synergy that would this lay claim

1252
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: is a carnivalisque part March oh yeah, suited to Banksy's dismalite,

1253
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: and I like to banks I'm thinking of commercial aspects

1254
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: of this appealing limited that is my own the thing question.

1255
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: There are twelve tracks, obviously, some of them along because

1256
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: The whole album goes for over an hour, one hour,

1257
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: one minute and fifteen seconds. It is Type of Politics. Wednesday,

1258
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: late minutes past eight, and we welcome to the program.

1259
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Jinny Anderson, good morning, Good morning, and Mark Mature, good morning.

1260
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 23: Corny might just quick question, are you looking are you

1261
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 23: looking at putting a country music be into something together?

1262
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 23: Because he seemed to be really promoting country music. We're

1263
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 23: just trying to see him. The first thing he asked,

1264
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 23: Ginny and I did you got Did you guys listen

1265
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 23: to country music over the weekend?

1266
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 8: I said no.

1267
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 23: I said did you and he said yep? And the

1268
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 23: supermarke and I said, we lined dancing in the fresh

1269
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 23: Fruit and vision. It's the thing he said. Would have

1270
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 23: said yes, He didn't deny it. He did not deny it.

1271
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: It's a very good question, Ginny. If you listened to

1272
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: our new radio station, our new country radio station.

1273
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 4: I have not, but I have made a personal note

1274
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: to do so in the next short while.

1275
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: What's the notes say, Dear Ginny, don't forget to listen

1276
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 2: to the country music station.

1277
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: Do you have you got any ratings yet?

1278
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: You know, early days on the ratings, but Breakfast remained

1279
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: strong on this station. But I think it's going to

1280
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: weekend too, the afternoon show afternoons.

1281
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: Are you going to make any care appearances?

1282
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: Well, funnily enough, the boss asked me to do a

1283
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: couple of promos for it, and I think I will

1284
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: do those promos and I will appear in some way,

1285
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: shape or form. I think it's my future, Jinny, to

1286
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: be honest, because this talk radio things coming to a

1287
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: slow end. So I think I'm going to move into I'm.

1288
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: Going to Can you do a bit of like a

1289
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: Southern rule you can get the magic DJ voice to.

1290
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 24: You can get it really well.

1291
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what the boss has just told me?

1292
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: The Boss has just told me he's getting close to

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Speaker 2: replacing me with the AI editorial. So the MIC's minute.

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Speaker 2: He was up last night and he was saying, write

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Speaker 2: editorials about this, that and the next thing, and he

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Speaker 2: reckons he's nailed it, and it probably won't be long

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Speaker 2: before you're being interviewed by an AI. Mike Hosking, No,

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Speaker 2: it's just not possible, Mike.

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Speaker 23: Not Well, something there's something. There's some areas you can't

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Speaker 23: go with AI, and.

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Speaker 2: That's one of them. Well, I hope, so, Jinny, Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 2: so mix skimming. I know, I know it's all they

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Speaker 2: get it all, But just quickly, Ginny, did you know

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Speaker 2: him and your observation of him was what.

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Speaker 4: I did know him? And I didn't notice anything different

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Speaker 4: from any other police officer I weeked worth during that time.

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Speaker 2: So whatever comes out of this is a surprise to you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, it had no full warning of any of

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Speaker 4: us know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, are there lessons potentially to be learned? Given

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Speaker 2: that and we had Nash on the program yesterday and

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Speaker 2: you just did what Genny said and you know him obviously,

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Speaker 2: are there lessons to be learned potentially depending on what

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Speaker 2: happens in how you appoint people at the highest level.

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Speaker 2: If there are flags there that you might.

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Speaker 23: Have miss or be missing, Yes, absolutely there are and

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Speaker 23: there I can't talk to the detail, as you've said,

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Speaker 23: and you know, in terms of because he's an ongoing

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Speaker 23: IPCO investigation and police criminal investigation. But yes, there are

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Speaker 23: definitely lessons learned out of this without a doubt that

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Speaker 23: we'll deal with sort of lad down the line. Look,

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Speaker 23: it's an awful situation to deal with, but you know

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Speaker 23: it had to be dealt with. I just the worst

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Speaker 23: thing about these situations is always the family and the

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Speaker 23: fallout because it plays out very publicly. But the reality

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Speaker 23: of it is is that public confidence and the police

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Speaker 23: is very important. We have an outstanding, world class police service.

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Speaker 23: There are a big organizations sometimes people that don't hold

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Speaker 23: to the values. The important thing is that you respond

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Speaker 23: quickly at quickly in dealing with that, and that's what

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Speaker 23: we've done here.

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Speaker 2: See Ginny Mark said the other day he could understand

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Speaker 2: people's confidence in the police force being shaken. I can't

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Speaker 2: see that being the case. This is one allegedly one

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Speaker 2: bloke bad apple the forces thousands and thousands. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: adjust my view of the police in any way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form, does it.

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Speaker 4: My view is that police have an excellent reputation in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand and something like this wouldn't impact upon it.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, So I agree with both of you.

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Speaker 23: But I just recognized the fact that maybe some people

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Speaker 23: are looking at it, and I think it's important to

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Speaker 23: recognize that. But on the same breath, I tried to

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Speaker 23: reassure them and let them know that we have got

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Speaker 23: a world class police service, tens of thousands of positive

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Speaker 23: actions every day, and you get it's like any big organization,

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Speaker 23: someone that doesn't hold to the values. That's how you

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Speaker 23: respond to that. And so I agree with you completely.

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Speaker 23: But it's important that I acknowledge too that some people

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Speaker 23: may be feeling a bit unsure. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 23: reassure that that's.

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Speaker 2: All bad news. Mark, five hundred. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: make it. They said you wouldn't and you're not. How

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Speaker 2: bad is this big?

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Speaker 23: Well, we're going to deliver the five hundred, make no

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Speaker 23: mistake about but not in the time trails not Well,

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Speaker 23: the target was November twenty five or twenty eight, But

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Speaker 23: the reality of it, as I've said, we're not going

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Speaker 23: to be We're not going to get hung up on

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Speaker 23: that because there's a big focus back on standards.

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty seventeen, you weren't saying that when you're

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Speaker 2: promised them five hundred. Though, Mark, you were promising five hundred.

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Speaker 2: You weren't saying, oh, don't worry about the numbers, folks,

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Speaker 2: let's talk standards. You said we're going to do five hundred.

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Speaker 23: No, we're still staying committed to the five hundred. We're

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Speaker 23: going to deliver the five hundred. But standards matter and

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Speaker 23: we're not going to compromise on that, and it's become

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Speaker 23: evident that we have to address some issues around standards.

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Speaker 23: The Commissioner is doing a review of that at the moment,

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Speaker 23: and I just want to point out one thing, Mike,

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Speaker 23: when I came into when I became minister, we went

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Speaker 23: from a sixteen week training course at the college to

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Speaker 23: a twenty week train course, which I supported.

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Speaker 2: I don't promise stuff you can't deliver. Jenny, I know

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Speaker 2: you probably want to say something about this, but brief

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Speaker 2: breaking more in a moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, coward

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: AP in Politics, Wednesday, sixteen past eight. Jenny, let me

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Speaker 2: put it to you this way. If they come in

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Speaker 2: on deadline at four eighty nine or four seventy two,

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Speaker 2: is that fair enough A last yes, but it's fair

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Speaker 2: enough as opposed to say to twelve.

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Speaker 4: Well, the closer they can get to what they promise

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Speaker 4: New Zealand is the better. But right now I think

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Speaker 4: they have seventeen. We're sitting at seventeen extra police officers

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Speaker 4: from when they started, so getting two five hundred by

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Speaker 4: November this year.

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Speaker 23: Well, we had it and possible we had a definite week.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to finish, please. So it's the government promises

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Speaker 4: things in an election, or the National Party promises things

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Speaker 4: and they don't deliver. They need to be held accountable

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Speaker 4: for the fact they've promised and not delivered and what

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Speaker 4: they said they would and this erodes confidence in their

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Speaker 4: ability to deliver.

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Speaker 23: So let me be really clear on this.

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Speaker 2: I find this.

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Speaker 23: I'm not going to take a lecture from Ginny Anderson

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Speaker 23: when they missed their target three times on their promise,

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Speaker 23: and then we found out that it wasn't eighteen hundred

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Speaker 23: frontline police officers. It was fifteen hundred and three hundred

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Speaker 23: authorized officers who do an outstanding job, but they're not

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Speaker 23: frontline police officers. So and the one thing that we

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Speaker 23: have done, and I signaled this from opposition in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 23: I didn't agree the changing standards at that time. We're

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Speaker 23: now reviewing that, which I'm very pleased to see the

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Speaker 23: commissioners doing. We've increased the time that our police officers

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Speaker 23: are at college from sixteen to twenty weeks. That is

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Speaker 23: important so that we give the best possibly equipped and

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Speaker 23: trained police officers when they deploy. So what we've done

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Speaker 23: as government is we've increased standards. We've increased the training time,

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Speaker 23: which we knew was always going to make it harder

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Speaker 23: to reach our target. We think that it is important

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Speaker 23: to have targets. We're still aiming for that, and I'll

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Speaker 23: wait and see how close we are. We will deliver

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Speaker 23: five hundred police officers.

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Speaker 2: Real quick on this. The Gun Registry agree to disagree?

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Speaker 2: Is that done? Now they don't agree?

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Speaker 21: You do?

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Speaker 2: That's life. We move on yes or no? Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's done.

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Speaker 23: We've moved on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what Mark?

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Speaker 23: What?

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Speaker 4: But what? Mark won't answer? And I asked him this

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Speaker 4: in the House es today and you refuse to answer.

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Speaker 2: Did you question? Number?

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Speaker 8: Was that?

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Speaker 4: I watched all Oh, you've got to tune in on

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Speaker 4: the review. You didn't. It didn't happen at about eight

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Speaker 4: o'clock class night.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh, for goodness, so you'll be the things

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 4: Nicle McKee has said she wants another review because you

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Speaker 4: didn't like the first one, and Mark said, no, you

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Speaker 4: can't have it. We've got a review. That's it. So

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Speaker 4: that that's good. We've got that established. But she wants

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Speaker 4: a category weapons, which are shotguns and rifles, the main

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Speaker 4: weapons that criminals use. She wants those out of the

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Speaker 4: registry And now I believe that the Minister of Police

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Speaker 4: needs to clarify what he thinks lobbys take all these

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Speaker 4: guns out of the registrict.

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Speaker 23: I don't think anyone has been left in any doubt.

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Speaker 23: What my position is the Minister of Police is I

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Speaker 23: will not compromise on public safety. The issues that you're

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Speaker 23: raising need to go through cabinet. It's a cabinet process,

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Speaker 23: and you know that I can't get ahead of that.

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Speaker 23: But I have a voice around the cabinet table, and

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Speaker 23: I think everyone clearly understands, especially through the agree to Disagree,

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Speaker 23: that I will not compromise on public safety. And by

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Speaker 23: the way, Nicole McKee also is very focused on public safety.

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Speaker 23: She's doing rewrite of the Arms Act. She's doing to

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Speaker 23: rewrite of the Arms Act, and that's a big piece

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Speaker 23: of work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, MP's pay rises any other way, genny of doing

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Speaker 2: it better or not, or it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's just come at a time when the minimum wage

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Speaker 4: didn't even go up in line with inflation, and they're

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Speaker 4: cutting women's pay. So it's come at a raw time

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Speaker 4: for music.

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Speaker 23: Well, that is just an outright lie that when no

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Speaker 23: one is cutting women's pay.

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Speaker 2: And as much as Mark, as much as I am

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Speaker 2: on your side on this, because this has been a

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Speaker 2: way over ragged, but was there a meeting within the

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Speaker 2: National Party that you guys, each and every individually tie,

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Speaker 2: each and every individual call it a lie because all

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Speaker 2: I've heard yesterday is lux and a lie, nicol or

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Speaker 2: a lie.

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Speaker 4: You a lie.

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Speaker 23: Because they're being completely, completely, totally dishonest. Well, let's use

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Speaker 23: another word, and dishonest. And you know, we do have

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Speaker 23: responsibility as public figures to actually speak to the truth

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Speaker 23: because your words often do matter. They are trying to

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Speaker 23: stir up a whole lot of sentiment, and not on dishonesty.

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Speaker 23: But but the other thing, too, Mike, is if we're

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Speaker 23: talking about woman, what about Chris Hipkins coming out and

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Speaker 23: condemning the use of the sea word against one of

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Speaker 23: our female politicians. He's all very brave last year when

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Speaker 23: he said I think we do have responsibility as men

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Speaker 23: to step up and condemn that and speak out against it.

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Speaker 23: Now it's happened in the worst possible way against one

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Speaker 23: of our females. In Parliament and he's missing in action.

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Speaker 23: He's he's he's in the corner, sucking his thumb and

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Speaker 23: the fetal position, crying for mum, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I could just say something, he'll be good. So, in

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Speaker 4: terms of whether the government has cut women's pay or not,

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Speaker 4: both the Prime Minister and soon to be Deputy Prime

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Speaker 4: Minister have said that getting rid of this pay equity,

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Speaker 4: the change is to pay equity.

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Speaker 2: Have saved getting ahead of yourself Jenny, No, no, you can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you do it on this

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Speaker 2: program because it is dishonest. The claims will be heard

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Speaker 2: under the new rules, and you don't know what will

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Speaker 2: be heard or won't be heard, and what will be

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Speaker 2: decided or won't be decided. You can't get ahead of

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Speaker 2: something that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, but the framework has been changed to make it

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Speaker 4: harder for those claims.

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Speaker 2: It's not true, it's not true at all.

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Speaker 4: It's true. It's changed from seventy percent women to sixty

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Speaker 4: percent women, so correct.

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Speaker 2: Sixty sixty to seventy. But they're trying to argue I

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Speaker 2: don't know why I'm arguing this much, but it's equity.

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Speaker 2: Those aren't half of them our equity claims. They called

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Speaker 2: equity claims, but they're not equity claims, that's right, They're

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: not true equally claims. They're just overreaches by unions. Correct.

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Speaker 23: And it's a system that the Laby Government's set up

1509
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 23: there is not sustainable for us as a country, and

1510
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 23: we want to have a fear sustainable system that allows

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01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 23: to meet all of those demands.

1512
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: Having said that, Mark, I would be harder for woman

1513
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 4: to get equal paid.

1514
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: Right, Well, we'll see it may well be Jenny, but

1515
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: we'll see. But but but but Mark, I would be

1516
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: prosecuting this as hard as I could have buyers labor

1517
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: because you are running a risk on this politically, I think,

1518
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: aren't you. Well, that's what they're doing and they are politics,

1519
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: But you are running a risk on this. Is this

1520
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: has got under the.

1521
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 23: SAT that's the job. That's the job of opposition. But

1522
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 23: let's at least have an honest debate around it and

1523
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 23: not put a whole lot of misinformation and fearmongering out there.

1524
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: And it's not going to go away, I don't think, Mark.

1525
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, Jenny. Nice to see you as well.

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: Mark and Jenny for another week twenty two the.

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Speaker 2: home is getting a bit noisy, probably time to upgrade

1531
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Speaker 2: country to be whisper quiet while delivering a constant cycle

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Speaker 2: of the filtered fresh air in and that stale air out.

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Speaker 2: out of the air perfect if your bedroom feels a

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Speaker 2: bit cold during winter. If you want a ventilation system

1539
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Speaker 2: that's perfect for the chili nights, say yes to DBS.

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Speaker 2: Your healthy home isn't complete without it. Thirty years as

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Speaker 2: industry leaders, thousands of homeowners already experiencing the DVS difference.

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Speaker 2: You can too online DBS dot co dot z, DBS

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Speaker 2: dot co dot inz on the phone eight hundred DVS

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Speaker 2: DVS asking yesterday the day before was a little proud

1545
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: for the NATS. Yesterday was susan ligh for the Liberal Party.

1546
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: So we've got two new leaders and so the rebuild begins.

1547
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: Question to go into the news and this goes back

1548
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 2: to Elon Musk and Tesla. If you don't buy a

1549
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: Tesla because you hate Elon Musk and he turns out

1550
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: to be a tool. McDonald's planned to hire three hundred

1551
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: seventy five thousand workers. They have an outstover night in America.

1552
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: US Labor Secretary was there at the announcement. McDonald's is

1553
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: one of the country's largest private employers. They're also a

1554
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: major donors to the Trump campaign, looking to ingratiate themselves

1555
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: and try and get out of the Health and Human

1556
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: Services Secretary Kennedy's make America healthy again. So they've given

1557
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: a million to the Trump campaign. They've announced more jobs.

1558
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: So if you don't buy a Teessla because of Elon,

1559
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: are you now not going to buy a Big Mac

1560
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: because macis loves Trump? Is that how it works or not?

1561
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to work out what is an increasingly weird, weird.

1562
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: World news opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking

1563
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

1564
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs had been to.

1565
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: Get to the IID who seemingly and we got an

1566
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: alluded to this the other day when we had an

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01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 2: expert on and the IID seemed to have bought themselves

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,879
Speaker 2: a new computer. And as a result of the new technology,

1569
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: you're doing all sorts of wonderful things like picking low

1570
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: hanging fruit and people who owe the money. The other

1571
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: day it was property developers and people not Angsteen. Today

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: it seems to be the old student debt. But we'll

1573
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: get to that in the moment. Twenty three minutes away.

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: From nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance. Peace

1575
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: Very Steeve Rice, Very good Wednesday morning for you.

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 8: Good to be with you.

1578
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: A lot of people from what I have been reading

1579
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: the Susan Lay who got a little proud got up

1580
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: for the Net. Susan Lay got up for the Liberal

1581
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: Party and it called her a punk rocker. When was

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: she a punk rocker? What sort of punk rocker was she?

1583
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: And would most Australians know her as a former punk rocker.

1584
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 4: No.

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 8: The answer to the last part of the question, she

1586
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 8: says she was an early adopter of punk rockery, as

1587
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 8: that's the way to describe it. In in camera back

1588
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 8: when she was in her early twenties and described how

1589
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 8: she once went to work wearing punk rock gear and

1590
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 8: razor blades attached to where he is and things coming

1591
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 8: out of her nose and all that sort of stuff.

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 8: You wouldn't think of that when you immediately think of

1593
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 8: Susan lay but you should. I should point out that

1594
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 8: this woman, she's sixty three years old now, she's been

1595
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 8: a minister in Abbott, Turnbull Morrison governments and of course

1596
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 8: in the Dutton government, and she is a commercial airline pilot.

1597
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 8: So you know, a lot of people can throw I'm

1598
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 8: not suggesting you're doing this, can throw stones at Susan Leber.

1599
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 8: She's certainly I mean, she's just taken on the worst

1600
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 8: job in the world. But she's very interesting, very talented. Obviously,

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 8: anyone who can float commercial airliner is smart and that's

1602
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 8: Susan but Lee. But the problem is that she's taken

1603
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 8: over a party that's been decimated in the election. Well

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 8: I'll give you the number shortly, but this is the

1605
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 8: best way to look at it. The Liberals don't hold

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01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 8: one seat in Metropolitan madelet they don't hold a seat

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 8: in Tasmania they've virtually been wiped out in Melbourne and

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 8: Perth and Sydney, and she's supposed to now rebuild this

1609
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 8: party over three years and be competitive when the next

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01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 8: election comes around. It is not a job that anybody

1611
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 8: that you or I know would want to have, would

1612
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 8: your sense of it be?

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: Everyone within the party understands that. And if she falls

1614
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: a bit short come three years time, she gets to

1615
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: carry the journey on or is she a plaseholder.

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 8: I'd be surprised if she'd made the three years, to

1617
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 8: be honest, unless something radically goes wrong with the Albanezi government,

1618
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 8: and that's entirely possible. I mean, governments with the numbers

1619
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 8: that I'm about to give you get who hubris, and

1620
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 8: they do tend to make mistakes. I mean, for a start,

1621
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 8: we have the Climate and Energy Minister Chris Bowen writing

1622
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 8: in the Australian newspaper this morning, saying that the election

1623
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 8: result two saturdays ago is a rubber stamp for him

1624
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 8: to continue with the lunacy that is turning Australia into

1625
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 8: a place that relies on the sun and the wind

1626
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 8: for power and music, coal gas. So that's coming down

1627
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 8: the track and it's coming at us very quickly.

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just see it's the type of we as

1629
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: I keep saying, we learn this less twenty through twenty three.

1630
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: It's not labor, it's the type of labor government you have.

1631
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: So we go back in this country to people like

1632
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: David Longie, Roger Douglas, Helen Clark, different sort of labor

1633
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: party to the Desinda a Durn party. And is Albanesian

1634
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: Co Bob Hawk or are they Albanesian Co?

1635
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 8: They're Albanesian Co. And this is the problem that the

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 8: country's going to have. I mean, Bowen writing this morning says, well,

1637
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 8: look at these seats. They had a slight swing toward

1638
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 8: labor in their primary vote. And now that means that

1639
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 8: we can stick wind farms off the coastline of places

1640
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 8: like Nelson Bay in Sydney or the Illawarra in New

1641
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 8: South Wales as well, and people simply do not want that.

1642
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 8: He said, Oh, well, the quiet Australians have spoken, and

1643
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 8: rural Australians. He even made a ridiculous quote in this

1644
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 8: Columny's written today that you'll find more electric vehicles in

1645
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 8: Weeraby than you will in Tuat. Now that is just

1646
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 8: completely ridiculous and stupid and it's not true.

1647
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: No, so what is he up to?

1648
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 19: Is it?

1649
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: Ninety one ninety two? Is ninety three? Does see ninety three.

1650
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 8: Ninety three to forty two, which is just a smashing

1651
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 8: And you can understand, I guess why they're so in

1652
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 8: love with themselves and believe that they can do whatever

1653
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 8: they want. Independence ended up on nine. We spoke on

1654
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 8: Monday about doctor Ryan getting up in too young just narrowly.

1655
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 8: The Liberal Party did win the seat of Bradford and

1656
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 8: Sydney very narrowly, by less than five hundred votes, and

1657
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 8: so it is an absolute smashing in any language. And

1658
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 8: so we're now looking at probably six years of labor

1659
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 8: governments in the middle of a global crisis when it

1660
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 8: comes to economies and a climate crisis in Australia, where

1661
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 8: you're going to get a minister that's been held under

1662
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 8: his portfolio. He didn't get moved sideways or dropped, and

1663
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 8: so we're now going to go headlong down the path.

1664
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 8: We're even going to did you know this? We're going

1665
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 8: to a cop meeting of all things in Adelaide, costing

1666
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 8: multi millions of dollars in two years time.

1667
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, what's the sporting thing you got for Melbourne?

1668
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 2: What's happened?

1669
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 8: Oh? How good?

1670
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 21: Is this any better?

1671
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 8: Book your tickets. Rory McElroy is signed.

1672
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: On the company Australia and Open Nice.

1673
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 8: And Melbourne in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six.

1674
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 8: This will be announced today.

1675
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: What course Royal Melbourne Golf Club.

1676
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 8: In twenty five, Kingston Heath in twenty six. Now lurking

1677
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 8: in the shadows behind this deal, of course, is my

1678
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 8: favorite ex premiere in one Daniel Andrews, who happens to

1679
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 8: be a member at Kingston Heath and has his sticky

1680
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 8: little fingers all over this deal. But remember this is

1681
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 8: the city that bids for the Koonwath Games, got them,

1682
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 8: got two years away from hosting them, and to no,

1683
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 8: we don't want them anymore. So we just got to

1684
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 8: remember that we did blow up eight hundred million dollars

1685
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 8: not hosting the Koonwaf Games. That's pretty good.

1686
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what are they paying them?

1687
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 8: Well, this is interesting, I'm.

1688
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 10: Glad to ask that question.

1689
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 8: The last big name golfer to sign up to come

1690
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 8: to Australia and play in Melbourne in an Australian Open

1691
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 8: was back in two thousand and nine when we paid

1692
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 8: three million dollars to Tiger Woods out here and play.

1693
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 8: Do you remember what happened post Tiger woods visit to

1694
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 8: Melbourne in two thousand and nine with his three million

1695
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 8: dollar paycheck?

1696
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 23: I do not.

1697
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: What happened?

1698
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 8: A woman not being his wife through his room at

1699
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 8: Crown Casina and Tiger never really recovered from that. His

1700
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 8: wife left him, took the kids and he was hauving.

1701
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: There was that all happened in Melbourne. That's Melbourne's fault

1702
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: and what is it's Melbourne's fault? I was just thinking

1703
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 2: we paid him once to come and he played at

1704
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: just north of Wellington. I'm not I'm just not sure.

1705
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 2: In a a in a small world of streaming and

1706
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: sport and a bit, we're just getting one person to

1707
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: come to a thing like that for me millions of dollars.

1708
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: Because golf is such a rand as you well know,

1709
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: it's such a random sport that just because the big

1710
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 2: name turns up doesn't mean they bail themselves out and

1711
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 2: they're gone by the weekend.

1712
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 8: Have you seen the vision from the live golf tournament

1713
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 8: there's played in Adelaide where they throw beer cups of

1714
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 8: people on the path through.

1715
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I thought there was just another day at

1716
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: the golf course. Is that the live thing?

1717
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 14: Is it?

1718
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: Now?

1719
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 2: Nice to see you mate. We'll catch up next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Next week rather now we may catch up on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Who knows Steve Price out of Australia for us? This morning?

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01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 2: By the way, Sam said pine nuts are more expensive

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Speaker 2: than smoke seven. Turns out he was wrong again. It

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Speaker 2: came in at eleven dollars one hundred grad so it's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten achilos so tunes.

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Speaker 16: That depends where you get them. It knew were there

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Speaker 16: one hundred and nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: First one hundred and twenty nine seed Pride. What do

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Speaker 2: your cheer you seed price? You didn't come to the

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Speaker 2: party with your cheer seed prices, did you. Somebody said truffles,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't count. Truffles are not regal. That's just

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Speaker 2: a season. We'll get a dog, get a peg, you know,

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Speaker 2: like proper food. I'm talking about eight forty five the.

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Speaker 8: At b.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 2: You need to get your pine nuts from Pinoli only

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Speaker 2: Grower and Bleno I'm thinking of getting into pine nuts myself.

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Speaker 2: We planted some pine nut trees, which I to my

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: eye anyway, are some of the best looking trees. And

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Speaker 2: it seems to me and I saw a country calendar

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01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: on at some point, and I think I've reached the

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 2: stage in terms of growth. You can cut the bottom

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01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: branches off, so you've got a big, thick trunk and

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01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: then a sort of a Doctor Seuss esque looking tree.

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Speaker 15: Well, you need to get yourself some salmon trees while

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01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 15: you're at it, exactly. I mean, I don't know why

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 15: you're looking. I've just been looking on the wall site

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Speaker 15: and there salmon. There's only like twenty nine dollars a.

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Speaker 2: Kilo hot smoked that's in a can.

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Speaker 16: So let me ask you about that's more convenient.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Very mh seventeen. The Aviation Council from the UN came

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: out yesterday they said Russia shot it down. And I

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01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: think we probably suspected that big story in Australia because

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: the Eight Australians were involved in all of that. You

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: may remember three years ago the Dutch had a crack

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: at a couple of Russians and a Ukrainian and they

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 2: found them guilty of murder. The Russians and the Ukrainians

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: weren't in court because they're not turning up anywhere. And

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01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: now we get alleged to confirmation from the UN that

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01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: it was Russia, and so the Netherlands and Australia want

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01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 2: the UN Council to order Russia to enter into negotiations

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: over reparations. So obviously that isn't happening. So I guess

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01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: there's a due process argument that you must be seen

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01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: to be doing something, But at what point do you go, Look,

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Speaker 2: if you're wanting something more than us group of people

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Speaker 2: sitting in a room going yeah, we think it was them,

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Speaker 2: then you're out of luck because it isn't going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Iid So there after, the students one hundred and thirteen thousand,

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirty three people with student loans that

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: are based overseas, a lot of people more than the

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: needen seventy percent are in default. So that's a scandal.

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: The amount owed is two point three billion, that's it's interestingly,

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Speaker 2: the reason I'm in this is that sits on the

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01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: government's books as having been paid, which of course it's not,

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01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: and may well, never be and at least a billion

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: of that's penalties and interest. Twenty four thousand people have

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 2: debt that's over fifteen years old. Now that's just scandalously

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 2: skullduggerous and needs to be sorted out. So now they're

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01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: starting to arrest people at the border. Not many, but

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01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: they should start lining them up, rounding them up and

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: throwing them in the slammer and say start paying up.

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Speaker 2: Is just over one hundred and fifty overseas based borrowers.

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Speaker 2: We're are combined a fault of fifteen million, one hundred

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01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: and fifty people o fifteen million dollars. The eye idea

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01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: and this were the good because they've got the new

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01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: computer system. They've collected more than two hundred and seven

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01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: million so far since July, which is a forty three

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: percent increase under the previous government. Of course they never look,

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01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: couldn't be bothered, and we just racked up billions and

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01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: billions of dollars worth of debt. But the idea that

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: you overtly and deliberately rip off us the taxpayer is

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01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: a scandal of the modern age. And the sooner they

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01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: up and the harder they go, the better nine away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news togs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be we could text time, Mike. Recent news reports

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Speaker 2: stated that the mortgage defaults are at a nine year high.

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Speaker 2: Can you interview housing experts for their comments and insights, Benjamin,

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: I can't because I am the housing expert for now,

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01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: and I've pointed this out before. But you raise a

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: very good point, and you've got to be very careful

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01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: about headlines, because this is what the media does when

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01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: they say it's a nine year high. I thought it

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01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: was an eight year high personally, but who cares an

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01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: eight nine whatever. It's technically correct, But the percentage of

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01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: people who hold mortgage debt that's in trouble is barely

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01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: over one percent. That is a nine year high, but

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01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: it's barely over one percent. So in other words, ninety

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Speaker 2: eight points something percent people are fine. Therefore it's not

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Speaker 2: actually a thing. Therefore, carry on about your Wednesday and

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Speaker 2: worry not, my friend. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: On now, bit of chat round the oh, bit of

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Speaker 2: buzz around the old phone market. Samsung launched yesterday the

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Speaker 2: world's thinnest phone.

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 22: The Galaxy S twenty five Edge, the slimmest smartphone ever

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01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 22: from Samsung. Usher's in a new era of flagship design.

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01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 22: Achieving this meant rethinking every component from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: I bet it, dude. So the Galaxy S twenty five Edge,

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01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 2: it's five point eight millimeters thick except for the camera

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01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: module because the can modules stick out. But apart from that,

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 2: it's five point eight millimeters thick. I think this appeals

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01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: to me. I'm not a phone person. I'm not a

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: tech person. Big little. I like big, and I think thin,

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Speaker 2: big and thin. Anyway, is anyone apart from me? Is

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Speaker 2: anyone into it or not?

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Speaker 24: I just know somewhere out there there was somebody who

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Speaker 24: was waiting for the thinnest possible version of an S

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Speaker 24: twenty five person totally exists, and good news for this

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01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 24: per It does actually seem to be a pretty good

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 24: phone for as thin as it is. You're into that?

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01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: Why is he calling me this person? He knows? Why

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01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: doesn't he call him what Mike wants it?

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Speaker 16: He doesn't want to be a name dropper.

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Speaker 2: That's true. We can't get it here, ah, good honest.

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01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: So we went to the Samsung MW Zealand website isn't here,

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: but if you go to the Australian site, they've got

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: a listed pre order add at two fifteen dollars.

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Speaker 20: Is that all right?

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01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: Is that good or not really good? It's about because

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01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: you get a three thousand dollar phone carrect you know?

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01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 15: That's about about what you pay for for what do

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01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 15: they call them? A flagship phone, a flagship handset, point

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01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 15: around FLA.

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01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: It's some of the flagship sticker.

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Speaker 4: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: You get a flagship phone.

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01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 16: With a decent camera and oh that's you and the

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 16: latest processor and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Apple a rumored, no kidding, Apple are rumored to be

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01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: wanting to do something similar. What a surprise. So they're

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Speaker 2: looking at an ultra thin iPhone later on this year.

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Speaker 16: It's going to be called the iPhone.

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Speaker 2: Heir, they think, why don't they call it the ithon?

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Speaker 16: Well, you know, these are all ideas. I'm sure they're listening.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I quite like that the iPhone, the or

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01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: the iphin because that's a phone and thin you see

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01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: what I did the iphin get a cookie on the phone.

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 2: See what he thinks about that?

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Speaker 8: One?

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Speaker 2: Gotta go seeveral people just said good, and we're back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. That's six happys.

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