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Speaker 1: And Kevin Gray are UK correspondence with us. Hey, Kevin, Hi.

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Speaker 2: The geven seven years on from the treasedy is quite

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Speaker 2: a long time to wait for the final.

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Speaker 1: Report, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It has. It's been a long long haul for

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Speaker 3: the victims' families. This of course, of the Grenfell fire

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Speaker 3: tower disaster back in twenty seventeen, in which seventy two

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Speaker 3: people died. It's still a scar on the landscape of

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Speaker 3: the West London scene and a monument has been covered

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Speaker 3: in cladding now for a few years. It was just

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Speaker 3: a blackened mess and it's been just horrific for everyone

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Speaker 3: living nearby, Horrific for those involved, horrific for those who

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Speaker 3: tried to rescue people who came out of the tower.

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Speaker 3: And now after a six year inquiry that began hearing

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Speaker 3: about evidence about what led to these deaths, this report

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Speaker 3: will be published at eleven o'clock local time, that is

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Speaker 3: just over three hours time from now. It's going to

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Speaker 3: look at how the tower block came into a condition

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Speaker 3: that allowed the fire to spread. So the clad that

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Speaker 3: was used to keep it warmer and to effectively insulate

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Speaker 3: it but actually became a sort of fire chapel or

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Speaker 3: caused a system which it's thought ultimately led to it

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Speaker 3: burning burning more quickly. Successive governments are likely to be criticized.

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Speaker 3: How that the building industry is going to come under

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Speaker 3: fire manufacturers, and not least the London Fire Brigade, who

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Speaker 3: already have admitted that their instruction to stay put to

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Speaker 3: the residence was a mistake and was repealed far too late. So,

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Speaker 3: as I mentioned, this report going to be published now

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Speaker 3: three hours time, and it won't make great reading, No,

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Speaker 3: probably not.

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Speaker 1: Hey tell me about the Queen of trash.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Well, this is a business woman in Scandinavia who

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Speaker 3: has made a bit of a sort of self styled

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Speaker 3: thing about being called a queen of trash in Sweden

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Speaker 3: because she stands accused of illegally dumping mountains of waste.

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Speaker 3: It's the country's biggest ever environmental case, Bella Niels, and

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Speaker 3: it's one of eleven people charged with what's called aggravated

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Speaker 3: environmental crime. She's chief executive waste management company and they

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Speaker 3: are accused of dumping or burying two hundred thousand tons

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Speaker 3: of waste in twenty one locations over a five year period. Now,

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Speaker 3: lawyers for her and the chief executor the company say

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Speaker 3: that they deny any wrongdoing, and indeed, earlier they had

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Speaker 3: refused to answers reporters questions. But prosecutors say the way

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Speaker 3: the company mismanaged the waste led to harmful levels of

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Speaker 3: carcinogenic chemicals being released into the air, soil, and water.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking lead, we're talking arsenic and mercury. In

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Speaker 3: one incident, the company waste pile was so close to

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Speaker 3: a nature reserve that it burned for two months after

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Speaker 3: spontaneously combusting. Yeah, I mean it's pretty gruesome stuff. As

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Speaker 3: I said, they deny the charges and the case now begins.

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Speaker 1: And so what is the punishment that they face.

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Speaker 3: Well, basically, lots of the municipalities in which the waste

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Speaker 3: was dumped aile seeking financial damages and I'm afraid I'm

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Speaker 3: the sort of environmental law it tends to be much

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Speaker 3: less punitive than if it were criminal law. And so

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Speaker 3: one of the particular councils assault about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty five million krona that's roughly forty million New Zealand

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Speaker 3: dollars and they're saying, you know, this was the cost

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Speaker 3: of cleaning up the waste. But plenty of people are saying, look,

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Speaker 3: you know, we had to keep our children indoors for

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Speaker 3: miles around because of toxic smoke fumes, and we should

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Speaker 3: therefore get compensation too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see the argument.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I saw this in the papers that I

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Speaker 2: didn't know if it was real, but genuinely people genuinely

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Speaker 2: turning the pineapple upside down in the shopping trolley in

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Speaker 2: order to find a lover.

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Speaker 3: Yes, believe it or not, so they let me book

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Speaker 3: your space. No, I know you don't need apart from that,

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Speaker 3: but Mrcadona is the name of the supermarkets and it's

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Speaker 3: a supermarket chain in Spain that's widespread, and between seven

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Speaker 3: and eight pm of a particular evening, single shoppers were told, now,

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Speaker 3: if you're good, if you want, if you want to partner,

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Speaker 3: go and have a look at everybody in there, because

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Speaker 3: between seven and eight pm, anybody that's looking for a

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Speaker 3: partner or a date should buy a pineapple, but turn

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Speaker 3: it upside down in your basket or in your trolley.

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Speaker 3: And yes, believe it or not, they reckon. Dozens of

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Speaker 3: people did just that. There are reports and groups of

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Speaker 3: teenagers pushing trolleys around in stores in the evening with

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Speaker 3: a pineapple turned upside down, but without actually buying any products.

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Speaker 3: One man dressed as a giant pineapple turned up inside

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Speaker 3: his friends as part of a bachelor party celebrations. The

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Speaker 3: police were called to one branch because of rowdy scenes inside,

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Speaker 3: although it was thought they didn't actually any require any intervention.

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Speaker 3: And basically this has all gone on social media. Of

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Speaker 3: course you knew that, you guessed it, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: all started with social media. It's become incredibly popular. And yes,

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Speaker 3: the Humble Pineapple now become the center of pineapple Gate.

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Speaker 1: Hilarious, Gavin, Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray, are UK correspondent.

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